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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: mikecho on February 10, 2019, 11:01:56 AM
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A little while back, I contacted Greg Grant (by phone) and told him something was missing on his Wacky Packages Web Page website dealing with the Coffee Table Book section. He had said that 10 anomalies had been on the first Wacky Packages coffee table book and I pointed out an 11th-that Shots in the 5th Series section of the book was missing the words "Delicious Gun Drops". Then he mentioned my contribution in the section mentioning the anomalies and put it in, but never got my name.
Well, last week I finally got him on the phone again, gave him my name, and he put it in the section! How about that, huh?
Then he gave me a question of his own. He said that El Polluto in the 7th Series section of the book had the name misspelled on the top of the box, with two t's (i.e., El Pollutto). His question was: is that the way it is on the sticker or is it just another anomaly? I said that I'd find out and get back to him later.
Does anyone know if this is just another anomaly in the book or is it on the sticker, too?
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rather bizarre that he'd even ask that, as he has a picture of the sticker on his website.
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rather bizarre that he'd even ask that, as he has a picture of the sticker on his website.
That's exactly what I thought.
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Maybe Greg was momentarily confused from being a bit Char Boy'd
(http://wackypackages.org/animation/CharBoy.gif)
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I think that Greg knows about it and I also think that what he wanted to find out about it was: is this a mistake common to all of the copies of El Polluto, or was it found and later corrected? In short, is it a 12th anomaly in the book or not?
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It’s unlikely that something like that would have ever been corrected.
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I talked to Greg on the phone yesterday and told him that the El Polluto mistake was, most likely, not a anomaly, but a typo that never got corrected. I also figured that Topps must not have known about it until it was practically too late and, or course, by then nothing could've be done about it. He thanked me for my help and that was it.
Well, at least I did something to help a fellow collector out.
I also told him on both calls that, on his Guestbook on the site, I found some additions and corrections on some of its pages that needed to be fixed and he said that he'd check them out and do so. I guess that I'll have to keep an eye out for those because he's definitely a busy man.
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If your'e buzy on Gregs websight (wear their's a lot to sift thru and Im shore he'll apreciate the help,) then whose going too keep and eye out hear and look out fore my misstakes and other's?
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If your'e buzy on Gregs websight (wear their's a lot to sift thru and Im shore he'll apreciate the help,) then whose going too keep and eye out hear and look out fore my misstakes and other's?
Shorely your jokeing?
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If your'e buzy on Gregs websight (wear their's a lot to sift thru and Im shore he'll apreciate the help,) then whose going too keep and eye out hear and look out fore my misstakes and other's?
I am, of course. Don't worry, I won't let you guys and gals down.
(By the way, Rob and Brian, that was cute. I loved it. It is to laugh! Ho-ho, ho, ho!)
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I thought Greg's site (or at least the forum) was on auto-pilot and has been for years now?
Tread cautiously, young grasshopper.
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I thought Greg's site (or at least the forum) was on auto-pilot and has been for years now?
The site is there and is maintained to a small degree, from what I can tell. The forum is kaput, from my point of view. The login page displays, but then hangs. I'm assuming it is disabled.
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I thought Greg's site (or at least the forum) was on auto-pilot and has been for years now?
Tread cautiously, young grasshopper.
I will and thanks for the advice. I just wanted to make sure, since it hadn't been done at the time, that Greg gave credit where credit was due. After that, the a's and c's that I gave him were just icing on the cake.
He said that he's going to look at the a's and c's on the Guestbook and, right now, I've got no choice but to take him at his word. If he sees them and fixes them, that's great! Whether he does it sooner or later is entirely up to him. You know, of course, that I'll be watching for them whenever I can.
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The site is there and is maintained to a small degree, from what I can tell. The forum is kaput, from my point of view. The login page displays, but then hangs. I'm assuming it is disabled.
It's sad. So much information gone from Greg's original forum - research, conversations, pics, stuff from Jay. And the new forum is either defunct, or only certain people can get in. I miss it, but at least here I feel welcome.
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It's sad. So much information gone from Greg's original forum - research, conversations, pics, stuff from Jay. And the new forum is either defunct, or only certain people can get in. I miss it, but at least here I feel welcome.
I'm with you Pat, I miss the old forum of Greg's, But I definitely feel more welcome on here as well.
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It's sad to hear that all this neat info from this old forum might be gone; isn't there any way to retrieve it at all?
And yesterday I found a website called the Wacky Packages Mall that also seemed to be completely empty and unaccessable as well; is Greg's website connected to this one as well?
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I believe that’s part of his site where stuff was listed for sale. Pretty sure that’s what he called it.
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I just remembered something else that Greg and I talked about that time a while back.
We were discussing the Abrams book Wacky Packages and he said that he thought that it was a wasted opportunity. They should've put in the Die-Cuts and the Wacky Ads, for example.
I said that I couldn't agree with him more and that they should've done that and divided the OS run evenly in half - Series 1-8 in Wacky Packages and Series 9-16 in Wacky Packages New New New. Then the third book (which I think should've had the yellow wrapper with the red Wacky Packages logo as the cover sleeve and then would've been called Wacky Packages Brand New Series) could've had these things in it:
*the 1985 Series,
*the 1991 Series (with its 20 Crazy Coupons card backs and including both Tattoo Skins and Barf's Rot Beer),
*the Wacky Cans (either as photos of each can or the cans drawn as if they were stickers (for an example of the latter, see the " '80s Wacky Cans" section in lostwackys.com)),
*Frosted Ice Krunkles,
*the five new Wackys from the 1982 Album Series,
*the 16 new Wackys from the Irish Series (which includes the three pulled ones and the original versions of two of them that were all in the Irish Test Series).
What do you guys and gals think? Possible (or even probable) with a few adjustments made based on how the first two books actually turned out?
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It's sad. So much information gone from Greg's original forum - research, conversations, pics, stuff from Jay. And the new forum is either defunct, or only certain people can get in. I miss it, but at least here I feel welcome.
...although probably a lot of conversations and arguments that are better left in limbo, too. What I'd like to see is a resurrection of the ORIGINAL forum from way back when (I think it was linked from John Mann's site). The late 90's stuff was mostly positive & informative. Unfortunately, the 'aughts' got a little haught (-y) under the collar and many of us lost interest along the way.
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I've been helping Greg out again on his website - the same thing I do here, but mostly it's punctuation and grammatical errors, with a little bit of updating here and there where it's needed.
He really appreciates the help, from what he tells me. In fact, he even put me on the list for a holiday prize he's offering. I hope I win it, because I'm dying to see what it is!
Some of it's been done so far, with only a little more left to go.
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I've been helping Greg out again on his website - the same thing I do here, but mostly it's punctuation and grammatical errors, with a little bit of updating here and there where it's needed.
He really appreciates the help, from what he tells me. In fact, he even put me on the list for a holiday prize he's offering. I hope I win it, because I'm dying to see what it is!
Some of it's been done so far, with only a little more left to go.
I thought he exited the hobby but his site seems to be getting updated nicely. I helped him by calling out OPC sticker he had in a series 2 set ebay auction. It's a lot to keep up on all of this.
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Ernie, you are a plethora of information when it comes to wackys. I am so glad that you lend you expertise to all of us. Many thanks to you. you have helped many times over with what you know and share.
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Ernie, you are a plethora of information when it comes to wackys. I am so glad that you lend you expertise to all of us. Many thanks to you. you have helped many times over with what you know and share.
Indeed. He has a great eye for finding rare Wackys as well.
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I talked to Greg on the phone yesterday and told him that the El Polluto mistake was, most likely, not a anomaly, but a typo that never got corrected. I also figured that Topps must not have known about it until it was practically too late and, or course, by then nothing could've be done about it. He thanked me for my help and that was it.
Well, at least I did something to help a fellow collector out.
I also told him on both calls that, on his Guestbook on the site, I found some additions and corrections on some of its pages that needed to be fixed and he said that he'd check them out and do so. I guess that I'll have to keep an eye out for those because he's definitely a busy man.
Not funny. Not funny at all.
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Not funny. Not funny at all. Dear Mr or Mrs "mikecho", this whole thread is ridiculous. I am shocked that the administrators of this forum let this ferment.
It's "Mr.", btw. As Bill Engvall would say, "I'm just a guy."
And this isn't intended to be funny; it's dead serious here. I'm just helping Greg out over there like I help Patrick out over here with the Master Spreadsheet, that's all.
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I misinterpreted something. Sorry.
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Ernie, you are a plethora of information when it comes to wackys. I am so glad that you lend you expertise to all of us. Many thanks to you. you have helped many times over with what you know and share.
Thank you, I try to help when I can. I don't know squat about the new wackys though, I think my brain hit a limit.
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Indeed. He has a great eye for finding rare Wackys as well.
My brain seems to retain the weird copyright variations and such so I can flip thru a pile of wackys or scan ebay auctions and quickly find this stuff. It was how I was able to spot the OPC in Greg's 2nd series set. I really don't look at every scan of an auction so most of this stuff needs to be on the first image.
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I misinterpreted something. Sorry.
That's okay; you didn't know.
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I haven't looked at Gregg's forum in more than ten years. He started a flame war over something silly and I migrated here with nearly every one else. It is a shame.
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I haven't looked at Gregg's forum in more than ten years. He started a flame war over something silly and I migrated here with nearly every one else. It is a shame.
I pretty much use Lost wackys site for most stuff, once in awhile I go to greg's to see an image or old ebay auction.
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I checked out Greg's site the other day and it's good to see he's keeping it updated. So much good info there.
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I haven't update my website in years but found out why people keep contacting me to join this forum as opposed to contacting the admin, people are still finding the forum thru my website as it appears they like my grading guide and price guide and wacky museum. Who knew 8)
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I'm still helping Greg out; finding things everywhere.
He and Patrick here have one thing in common: I've found so much material for them that I don't know if I'm going too fast for them to keep up. This is, however, more true for Patrick than it is for Greg because I've been PMing him a lot of stuff, but I don't know what's been done so far on what I've sent him or how much of it there is to go before it's finally finished.
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You'll never believe what happened to me today.
Recently, Greg had a lottery contest on his website and I was one of the two winners! My prize was a hardcover book called Jay Lynch's Wacky Packages Sketches Anthology: 2005-2009. It's a first printing and one of only 50 copies made. And no, it's not available in stores.
Jay was a great Wacky artist and will be missed.
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You'll never believe what happened to me today.
Recently, Greg had a lottery contest on his website and I was one of the two winners! My prize was a hardcover book called Jay Lynch's Wacky Packages Sketches Anthology: 2005-2009. It's a first printing and one of only 50 copies made. And no, it's not available in stores.
Jay was a great Wacky artist and will be missed.
I've seen one of those for sale recently.
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Recently, Greg had a lottery contest on his website and I was one of the two winners! My prize was a hardcover book called Jay Lynch's Wacky Packages Sketches Anthology: 2005-2009. It's a first printing and one of only 50 copies made. And no, it's not available in stores.
I didn't even enter the contest and Greg sent me one of these a few weeks ago (I opened it Christmas day, as instructed). It's pretty cool.
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I didn't even enter the contest and Greg sent me one of these a few weeks ago (I opened it Christmas day, as instructed). It's pretty cool.
I didn't either and isn't it, though?
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I didn't even enter the contest and Greg sent me one of these a few weeks ago (I opened it Christmas day, as instructed). It's pretty cool.
I got one too! Very nice....
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It was a nicely done book of all a lot of the sketches that Jay did for people. It was a great read (or should I say look through)
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Did we lose some members? I noticed Greg re-opened his forum, and it's been quieter here lately.
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Did we lose some members? I noticed Greg re-opened his forum, and it's been quieter here lately.
I doubt it. Everyone I am familiar with who has posted there is still a member here.
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I doubt it. Everyone I am familiar with who has posted there is still a member here.
Anyone who doesn't believe greg want his forum to be THE FORUM and will do everything in his power to make it that way hasn't been in the hobby very long. I heard he has been feverishly emailing people to join his forum.
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Anyone who doesn't believe greg want his forum to be THE FORUM and will do everything in his power to make it that way hasn't been in the hobby very long. I heard he has been feverishly emailing people to join his forum.
Unlike in the past it just doesn’t seem like a big issue to me anymore. There are wacky Facebook groups, forums....participating in multiple venues is fine. The primary selling point of Greg’s forum is he posts a good bit of content that is interesting to me and appears nowhere else. So I will participate in all venues.
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Unlike in the past it just doesn’t seem like a big issue to me anymore. There are wacky Facebook groups, forums....participating in multiple venues is fine. The primary selling point of Greg’s forum is he posts a good bit of content that is interesting to me and appears nowhere else. So I will participate in all venues.
I loved Greg's forum and was an active participant. But, somehow I became unwelcome, and so I was thrilled to join this (Brad's) forum. I don't really care for Facebook, and there are just too many FB groups to even keep track of.
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Nothing against Greg personally, but I feel "at home" on this forum now. I wasn't aware, or a part, of the drama, back when his forum had it's glory days.
I hope nothing changes here with his attempt to rebuild his forum.
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Nothing against Greg personally, but I feel "at home" on this forum now. I wasn't aware, or a part, of the drama, back when his forum had it's glory days.
I hope nothing changes here with his attempt to rebuild his forum.
I feel at home on this forum also, but I am interested in a lot of the stuff he has posted on his forum, and he’s not going to post it here, so I’ll participate in both. I can’t see why anything should change here.
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Nothing against Greg personally, but I feel "at home" on this forum now. I wasn't aware, or a part, of the drama, back when his forum had it's glory days.
I hope nothing changes here with his attempt to rebuild his forum.
It was the very first computer "group" I found and joined, and I spent a lot of time on it, even though I only had dial-up for 60 minute connections at a time >( >(
Made a lot of friends. Brother Shoe was the first to help me, with some ANS1 tattoos, I think.
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I loved Greg's forum and was an active participant. But, somehow I became unwelcome, and so I was thrilled to join this (Brad's) forum. I don't really care for Facebook, and there are just too many FB groups to even keep track of.
There are several facebook groups which is idle chatter which is often redundant but it is light and fun aside from that one lunatic who was scamming everyone.
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I feel at home on this forum also, but I am interested in a lot of the stuff he has posted on his forum, and he’s not going to post it here, so I’ll participate in both. I can’t see why anything should change here.
agreed, there is no reason for anyone to have to pick and choose. I won't participate in his forum as I also was one of the folks he kicked out during his pretentious attempt at rule and order in which he disallowed any criticism of him but welcomed and posted criticism of others.
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It was the very first computer "group" I found and joined, and I spent a lot of time on it, even though I only had dial-up for 60 minute connections at a time >( >(
Made a lot of friends. Brother Shoe was the first to help me, with some ANS1 tattoos, I think.
I didn't realize you were never part of John Mann's forum. ironically greg's forum was created due to John Mann threatening to kick greg out for his behavior to which greg then did exactly the same to others with his forum resulting in this forum.
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I didn't realize you were never part of John Mann's forum. ironically greg's forum was created due to John Mann threatening to kick greg out for his behavior to which greg then did exactly the same to others with his forum resulting in this forum.
I didn't have a computer until long after most of you guys. I went to card shows, and subscribed to The Wrapper, and eventually Non Sport Update. I joined ebay around 1999 I think, and that was how I finally found Greg's forum, when I was buying Wackys to complete my childhood collection.
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You were one of my first customers on eBay in 1999. I think you bought a 1991 pack. I found your address and e-mail on a yellow tab when I was cleaning out some things before moving to TN in late 2016.
I discovered John Mann's site and others not long after I got connected. Since I never saw much of the 1st Series as a kid, today Gadzooka brings back nostalgia for the late '90's, lol.
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I didn't have a computer until long after most of you guys. I went to card shows, and subscribed to The Wrapper, and eventually Non Sport Update. I joined ebay around 1999 I think, and that was how I finally found Greg's forum, when I was buying Wackys to complete my childhood collection.
My beginnings in the hobby were very similar to yours Pat - in spring 1997 I sent away for a sample issue of The Wrapper through an ad somewhere, bought The Beat Goes On through an ad in NSU, started making some Wacky purchases via The Wrapper, and by the summer I attended my first major show in Parsippany NJ, which opened up a whole world of Wackys and other vintage series that never turned up at any of the small card shows I’d attended locally for the few years prior. Spent hours on the phone with Shoe (Wrapper ads) and hung with him at a couple shows, though he remembers none of it lol. Got my first home PC in 1998, registered on eBay in early 1999 (yep, dial-up for quite some time). I was however oblivious of the existence of any kind of message boards until a couple years into ANS.
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I didn't have a computer until long after most of you guys. I went to card shows, and subscribed to The Wrapper, and eventually Non Sport Update. I joined ebay around 1999 I think, and that was how I finally found Greg's forum, when I was buying Wackys to complete my childhood collection.
The wrapper still in business? The website seems to be up to place a subscription. I found it horribly difficult to stay a subscriber not matter how much I tried. I was never reminded when my subscription would end. I have a huge stack of wrappers, I guess I should chuck them on ebay to see if someone collects them.
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The wrapper still in business? The website seems to be up to place a subscription. I found it horribly difficult to stay a subscriber not matter how much I tried. I was never reminded when my subscription would end. I have a huge stack of wrappers, I guess I should chuck them on ebay to see if someone collects them.
The Wrapper is still very much alive and well.
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So what happened to Greg's forum reboot? It looks like no one has posted anything for nearly a week now and Greg himself hasn't been active on the forum since May 5.
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So what happened to Greg's forum reboot? It looks like no one has posted anything for nearly a week now and Greg himself hasn't been active on the forum since May 5.
I asked him a couple of weeks ago, he said he is busy with work. Or possibly the novelty wore off.
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I asked him a couple of weeks ago, he said he is busy with work. Or possibly the novelty wore off.
It’s been pretty quiet all around for a while. Generally new releases are the most reliable thing to stimulate chatter, but since it’s taking months for orders to arrive, the weekly/monthly sets haven’t been talked about much either, just the frustration of waiting for deliveries. And when a member finally receives a set, he or she is reluctant to say much, not wanting to be a spoiler to those members still waiting for their orders.
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If anyone's decision to buy, sell or trade wackys with me has been influenced negatively by greg grant, please send me a message. Thank you
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I heard some idiot told greg that I am gunning for him making it sound like out of the blue, I am soliciting feedback on how greg's libel of me impacts others when the fact is that I started gathering this feedback AFTER greg randomly decided to libel me on the main page of his website.
Thank you to all who pointed that out to me as I don't visit his page much and thank you for those who continue to provide feedback to me on the fact he continues to attack me and others on his forum with no provocation(me, brad, nelson, nelson's wife, Dave Gross, Mark Newgarten to name a few....
It seems greg still can't resist telling his one sided "woe is me" stories......no wonder he created his own forum, he got kicked off two others and now he feels nobody can curtail his behavior. Sad because he has a lot to offer but he just cant go thru life without attacking people. Maybe some day he will complete that greg primer thread and explain why he is so driven by Jihads with so many people, he suggested something happened to him as a kid in that thread but never elaborated.
Now that I think about it, I witnessed him verbally assault at least two collectors at two different shows and I stopped going to shows over a decade ago so who knows how many more have suffered his verbal abuse.
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hi all
I heard that yet again greg went on a rant about me on his page. He went on a rant about diecuts he purchased. It seems a seller of diecuts who was asking me for advice on value had sold to greg at some point. This seller sent me not so great scans of Ratz and Cracked and I was suspicious of the quality of the perfs. I told her I have all these titles and would be happy to help her on value but I need better scans. I told her she clearly has thousands of $ of stuff. We exchanged a few emails but I never got better scans so I moved on. Later when doing my regular purge of my inbox, found her emails and sent an email saying hey, never heard back from you and that was that. Later on someone told me greg came into high value diecuts that he was flipping and he was posting them on his forum as a "look what I got" no different than the gold windhex mini that he is bragging about now that his friend got for pennies(pay attention to that minis thread, greg told his friend to buy them all up, nope he didn't tell the seller hey, you are sitting on a gold mine of packs with great rarities....). So back to the diecut seller, after I heard greg was flipping high value diecuts, I asked her if she happened to sell to someone named greg(mentioned no last name) as he was bragging about diecuts he got that he was flipping(obviously he didn't pay full value as there would be no room to flip so he got them cheaply). greg said I "messed up his deal" which is a special statemen...does that mean he had to pay closer to fair value after all? How could I mess up his deal if I contacted her after the deal was done? It appears he got into a hassle with the seller as she sent him the lower grade stuff. Yeah, somehow it is my fault he got into yet another tusssle with someone. Of course this explains why she didn't follow up with me on value when I told her she had thousands, I am certain greg slandered me in some manner with her so that someone trying to tell her the truth about value would be cast aside. Yup, another woe is me story from greg where he does no wrong but me and the seller are the criminals! I feel bad for the folks with so little mental fortitude that they can't see thru these greg rants. I also heard that Mikecho tried to help him out but slinging all sorts of inane comments about me and greg maliciously slapped him to the side like an annoying little kid. More fodder for my collage!
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Below is the EXACT dialogue I had with greg's seller before he purchased the cards. At no point did I attempt to buy them and clearly told her they were worth thousands
Sometime in early August, I heard greg posted about similar cards and wrote the seller asking if she sold cheaply to someone named greg who was bragging about his recent purchased of similar cards. It is a hobby, we brag about our acquisitions, it is not a crime but it hurts greggie poohs feelings to say it out loud...of course he got them cheaply which is why he claims after the fact I mess up his deal and of course nobody buys something with the intent of flipping at full value. Again, no crime for greg making a living off wackys but greggie pooh feelings again hurt when hearing it out loud. Of course she didn't follow up with me on value because I am certain greg slandered me in some manner to her saying I wouldn't assess fairly, I am working on getting such supporting evidence from the seller to back up my suspicion.
Band Aches <bandaches@yahoo.com>
To:
Amy Newport
Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:43 AM
Hi
Someone named greg is bragging about a Ratz and Cracked Animals that he scored cheaply. Did he happen to buy them from you? Again, if you need any advice on value, I can help you out as I have most of these cards already.
Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 12:05 PM
Hi,
Havent heard back from you. Offered to discuss over the phone so I can help you assess what you have. Wasnt that the reason you contacted me or were you looking to sell?
Band Aches <bandaches@yahoo.com>
To:
Amy Newport
Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:26 AM
did you want to discuss on the phone? I can be reached at xxx-xxx-xxxx
Band Aches <bandaches@yahoo.com>
To:amynewport1234@gmail.com
,Amy Newport
Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:44 AM
Definitely sounds like thousands of dollars worth of cards but I can't help you without more specifics more scans.
On Monday, June 14, 2021, 11:25:39 PM EDT, Amy Newport <amynewport1234@gmail.com> wrote:
I have be every single one on the series except one of the jolly mean giant . I have duplicates of the rats and cracked animals
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:24 PM Amy Newport <amynewport1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Stlouis
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:00 AM Band Aches <bandaches@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tough to tell from the angle but some of these 1967 first series cards like the one your picture here could be worth over $1,000.
Prior to Jun 14, she sent me scans of Ratz and asked for assessment, I cant copy and paste that part easily here.
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I don’t know anything about the details of the interactions between you or Greg and the seller, but I happen to have discussed the actual deal with him at the time, and you are wrong that he got them cheaply. The offer he made was very reasonable given the likely grades the cards would receive from PSA, the grading fees and the risk he was taking that they might grade lower than that estimate. He certainly paid more than the cards would have sold for ungraded on eBay IMHO.
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Where is the rant on his page? I don’t see it.
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I think he took it down awhile ago.
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I don’t know anything about the details of the interactions between you or Greg and the seller, but I happen to have discussed the actual deal with him at the time, and you are wrong that he got them cheaply. The offer he made was very reasonable given the likely grades the cards would receive from PSA, the grading fees and the risk he was taking that they might grade lower than that estimate. He certainly paid more than the cards would have sold for ungraded on eBay IMHO.
I will never understand your tenacity in trying to protect greg thru all his "woe is me" episodes but semantics on "reasonable" versus cheap versus room to make money, whatever....he didn't pay a price he didn't think he could make a profit ie the price he paid was CHEAPER than the price he planned to sell. If want to stake your reputation that this warrants greg's off the rails psycho post about wanting to sue me for $25k, that is up to you.
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I think he took it down awhile ago.
I have screen prints of most of the thread, I will post here shortly but I am trying to figure out how to clean up the screen shots as to not give away how/who I am getting them. We all know greg will go psycho on whomever is not a mindless support of him. Meanwhile in one of his pyscho posts, he convinced himself I spent time trying to find his seller.....I have never seen him so off the rails before. She was writing me all along asking me to assess the value. I could have competed with him to buy the lot but I didn't and I had no idea he was offered the same lot until his boastful post about scoring diecuts. His paranoia has really gotten out of control.
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I’m not protecting Greg, just protecting the truth. Isn’t it possible you are reading his posts through the prism of your own bias? I just re-read his original post about the die cuts and it isn’t boastful at all. It was simply posting in excitement about a cool find.
As for how much he paid, the only reason it matters is you telling his seller that he bragged about getting them “cheaply,” which implies to her that Greg was ripping her off when he was not.
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I’m not protecting Greg, just protecting the truth. Isn’t it possible you are reading his posts through the prism of your own bias? I just re-read his original post about the die cuts and it isn’t boastful at all. It was simply posting in excitement about a cool find.
As for how much he paid, the only reason it matters is you telling his seller that he bragged about getting them “cheaply,” which implies to her that Greg was ripping her off when he was not.
LOL, and you don't have a bias? Hilarious! If she didn't get maximum value, she sold them cheaply, your mincing words is comical. Posting about a recent find of rare items is "look what I got", no law against it and no law against calling it what it is. I noticed you haven't bothered at all to call out his psychotic statement that I must have spent a lot of time trying to find this seller. Since you are all about accuracy, still no comment from you? This event was almost a year ago and he brings it up now?? Your credibility as an "independent eye" on this is zero. He is a paranoid nutcase, end of story.
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I’m not protecting Greg, just protecting the truth. Isn’t it possible you are reading his posts through the prism of your own bias? I just re-read his original post about the die cuts and it isn’t boastful at all. It was simply posting in excitement about a cool find.
As for how much he paid, the only reason it matters is you telling his seller that he bragged about getting them “cheaply,” which implies to her that Greg was ripping her off when he was not.
Hey protector of the truth, greg said I told 4 lies(although he numbered them as 3 probably because he posted in a fit of rage)...
He bragged about getting the diecuts - semantics, he posted on a forum saying look what I got....really a lie truth seeker?
He got them cheap - again semenatics, he convinced you because of the enormous risk he was taking in buying these, his price was fair and I say if you buy for less than you sell, you bought them cheaply.....really a lie truth seeker?
I have all these cards - well I do and still do. If I post scans of the set, will you call greg a liar truth seeker? I bet not....
I would give honest advice because I have the cards - well I did, it is in black and white in the emails I posted, i told her she had thousands of $ of value - so truth seeker, did I lie there too?
you are a hypocrite Dave.
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Whether he got them “cheaply” is obviously subjective, so I wouldn’t call that a lie. What’s clear is that you said he bragged about getting them cheaply to make her feel as if Greg had taken advantage of her. Or is there another reason I am missing that you would say that?
Again, bragging is subjective. I didn’t call that a lie, and I wouldn’t use that term. I just said I didn’t see it as bragging. Greg called it a lie. Take it up with him, not me.
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Whether he got them “cheaply” is obviously subjective, so I wouldn’t call that a lie. What’s clear is that you said he bragged about getting them cheaply to make her feel as if Greg had taken advantage of her. Or is there another reason I am missing that you would say that?
Again, bragging is subjective. I didn’t call that a lie, and I wouldn’t use that term. I just said I didn’t see it as bragging. Greg called it a lie. Take it up with him, not me.
my question was rhetorical if greg in fact was the buyer... how could my question have caused him any harm AFTER the FACT if he paid full value especially given she was seeking advice on value from me at the same time? she didn't follow up in sending me more scans so I could help her further. Are you naïve enough to think greg didn't do everything in his power to corner this deal with no competition? One doesn't do that when they are paying full value now do they? greg then admits he had issues with the seller in that she didn't send what was promised in the first place and somehow my email complicated that. How is that possible if all was on the up and up? Yet another woe is me greg story with someone else to blame, he must have like 100 of these per year! Who the hell has so many problems? It was quite possible gregs diecuts were from someone else and she could have told me no, she never sold them. It just happened she was in email contact with both of us but paranoid nutcase greg has convinced himself that I spent tons of time to find her after he posted about getting diecuts. I mean can he possibly get nuttier?
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Does a Paul Maul love a Char Boy? hmmmmm.
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Does a Paul Maul love a Char Boy? hmmmmm.
So Dave claimed to be a non biased truth seeker but when I called out greg lies, his response was for me to take it up with greg.....
Also, Dave's only point of view is greg's, he has rationalized the ONLY possibility that I wrote to the seller suggesting she sold them cheaply was to hurt greg AFTER a deal was done which is idiotic thought in itself as I had no idea greg was in the middle of a tussle with yet another seller and my email was timed in the middle of that tussle. I was going off 2nd hand info that greg was bragging about cheaply scored valuable die-cuts shortly after someone had contacted me about the same. It never occurred to him that I wanted to point out to her had she bothered to follow up with me, I could have given her a full assessment and her failure to do so possibly lead to her selling for less. yes it was annoying for her to contact me for what turned out to be no reason at all but anyone with a brain knows greg very likely steered her away from getting additional advice, why else would she suddenly not be interested in an assessment as an active seller? You can see my full disclosure of emails to her and I didn't press her to sell to me, I did nothing to scare her off other than offer to help her out.
Why did greg take his posts down, his arrogance never allows him to do so unless he knows he was wrong. He convinced himself that AFTER I heard he scored diecuts that I tried to find this seller to hurt him which of course is categorically false! Let's continue to watch him lecture everyone on who else has mental issues......
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I see greg's attack of me is back on his webpage.....so game on...
Sure enough, more posts by greg "wondering" why nobody will play with him....
A fellow member sent me the below post by greg. I was sent a few others over the past months so I will dig those up shortly. Seems about once per month after he makes 80% of the 10 posts on his forum, he then wonders why he is talking to himself....
"I remember back in the early forum days when we first decided to do this, a dozen people jumped on this project with enthusiams and together we got 1-16 done in short order. These days participation seems to have gone extinct. Choman and a couple others spend a lot of time proof-reading. But for the most part everybody's just an observer these days. Nobody wants to actually do anything. It all rests on me. Same goes for basic forum discussion. What happened, facebook drained the chat out of everybody?"
Hmmm....yeah that is it, facebook drained the chat out of everyone yet the chatter here is quite active.....maybe if greg wasn't such a self centered prick, he wouldn't be so lonely.....
btw my new ebay id is all-must-revere-ggrant