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Offline ClubbedCanadian

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Re: Are these people NUTS???
« Reply #350 on: February 15, 2011, 10:53:34 PM »
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123

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« Reply #351 on: February 16, 2011, 02:56:42 AM »
that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123

Another award winning description.

That the white backs are so brown the seller makes a point of telling us they aren't tanbacks contrasts with the fact the seller had the sheet professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners. Good thing they have nice corners. Just don't turn them over and notice the white backs are brown. I'm not sure this set will satisfy any so called "completist" the seller is referring to.

Offered here is a very rare 1975 wacky packages complete series 13 WHITEBACK set.  There are only a few complete sets known to exist in the hobby.  Single cards from this set have sold for close to $200 each in past years.  This set was created from an uncut sheet I have had in my collection for years.  I had it professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners.  Unfortunately the uncut sheet wasn't well cared for by the owner before me so the back had faded/stained and had creases which are reflected in the scans provided here.  I 100% guarantee these are series 13 whitebacks and are of the hard whiteback stock even though many look beige.  Tanbacks are much flimsier stock and any wacky pack collector would know this.

This is the perfect set for the completist who wants all variations within the wacky packages run as you many never have the opportunity to get this set.  This can fill that need without having to spend the nearly $6000 that a higher grade set would command.


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Re: Are these people NUTS???
« Reply #352 on: February 16, 2011, 03:31:57 AM »
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.

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« Reply #353 on: February 16, 2011, 05:30:10 AM »
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

A seller can ask whatever they want as a strategy, but someone buying a Cracked will most likely do their research and realize how out of whack the price is, so it just makes them look a little foolish as a seller.     
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« Reply #354 on: February 17, 2011, 09:39:05 AM »
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?

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« Reply #355 on: February 17, 2011, 10:55:54 AM »
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?

I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
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« Reply #356 on: February 17, 2011, 11:26:49 AM »
Maybe that's the case here.
It is. I wrote him to mention this fact and he responded with a thanks and that he knew nothing about them.

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« Reply #357 on: February 17, 2011, 02:30:15 PM »
I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.

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« Reply #358 on: February 17, 2011, 03:13:16 PM »
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.

jezz man it's just a sticker,,the boarder don't matter,,,you guys are so picky  :^)

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« Reply #359 on: February 17, 2011, 04:02:41 PM »
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
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« Reply #360 on: February 17, 2011, 05:19:08 PM »
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?

True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)

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« Reply #361 on: February 17, 2011, 05:40:17 PM »
Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
IME?

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« Reply #362 on: February 17, 2011, 06:41:32 PM »
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)

Ya know, this seems like ridiculous behavior on Paypal's part, especially in light of their new "Pay Later" plan. I am getting really tired of being barraged by their "commercials" each time I log into eBay or Paypal. Talk about setting some one up for a fall later.
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Re: Are these people NUTS???
« Reply #363 on: February 17, 2011, 08:31:05 PM »
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
No problem dude.  I have spent years ripping off ebay and paypal of fees with gift transactions on paypal and private deals on ebay.  If you see an item that I had listed on ebay and it didn't sell but didn't get relisted, you can be pretty sure I sold it privately cutting ebay out of the deal.
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Re: Are these people NUTS???
« Reply #364 on: February 17, 2011, 09:53:08 PM »
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
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« Reply #365 on: February 18, 2011, 10:24:10 AM »
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
Can you please stop breezing over series of posts before you make a comment?  Jean Nutty called it award winning.  I happened to be quoting someone else in my response but my question was obviously geared to all who were partaking in the discussion. You seem to be suggesting that nobody called the description "award winning" all while you made the extra effort to paraphrase the $300 post. Take the three milliseconds to go back and see that, Jean Nutty got it, somehow you missed it.  

These are legit 13th whitebacks hence they are rare, poor condition maybe but this doesn't change the definition of what they are.  The fronts and corners are in great shape, many of the backs are not.  If a completist wants all sets possible, they can spend the $3000-$5000 if they are lucky enough to find any 13th white sets for sale or they can buy my set.  IF they own my set, they will in fact own a 13th white set and hence it will complete that need. Is that really so difficult for you to understand?  Seems it is since you didn't even read the posts leading up to this correctly.
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« Reply #366 on: February 18, 2011, 10:26:56 AM »
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.
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Re: Are these people NUTS???
« Reply #367 on: February 18, 2011, 10:43:44 AM »
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.

We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.

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« Reply #368 on: February 18, 2011, 11:59:16 AM »
We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P
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« Reply #369 on: February 18, 2011, 01:23:39 PM »
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P

Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.

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« Reply #370 on: February 19, 2011, 08:11:06 PM »
Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.
You don't need to read 300 posts but you sure could read all of the new posts in a thread especially if you are about to post a comment that suggests I made a reference to something that was never posted.  Your choices are to continue to rationalize your hurried and careless approach as i see it has carried over into other threads where others have called you out or you can slow down, take a breath and try to be a tad more thorough.
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« Reply #372 on: March 01, 2011, 07:00:25 AM »
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.

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« Reply #373 on: March 01, 2011, 07:32:27 AM »
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set.
Sorry, but I don't. Based on the auction title and description, it's obvious the seller never bothered to really figure out what they had and just put a random number on it. What they get is what they get; their fault. And, actually, the chances are they're thrilled they got $150 for a few little pieces of cardboard.

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« Reply #374 on: March 01, 2011, 03:06:10 PM »
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.
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« Reply #375 on: March 01, 2011, 04:16:12 PM »
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.

It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
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« Reply #376 on: March 01, 2011, 07:42:50 PM »
It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
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« Reply #377 on: March 01, 2011, 09:57:06 PM »
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
He may have shown that one because it's the only one in questionable condition.

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« Reply #378 on: March 02, 2011, 03:35:32 AM »
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« Reply #381 on: March 02, 2011, 08:59:22 AM »
As the description states...This is for real no joke.

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-1-148-cards-/270713750814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07cc051e
I can't argue that it's real, but I think the joke part is debatable.

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« Reply #382 on: March 08, 2011, 08:31:45 PM »
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
Looks like the seller welched and relisted the lot. I'd say the buyer let him off to easy as winning an ebay auction is a binding contract and this seller is listing an item that could go into litigation.  I would screw the seller if I were the buyer and spend the $15 to file small claims against him.

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« Reply #383 on: March 09, 2011, 08:37:45 AM »
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'

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« Reply #384 on: March 09, 2011, 03:20:34 PM »
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'

Man, that stinks!  I wonder if eBay offers any assistance since they claim it is a legally binding contract, or is that just something they state to try to keep this sort of thing from happening.
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