VINTAGE vs. Post-2004

[Dr Popper]

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

[Crakola Crayons]

Very cool to know.  So we've nearly doubled the original title run from original stuff to new stuff.  Nice.

[BumChex]

That is interesting. Now would you also count the postcards?

[Dr Popper]

That is interesting. Now would you also count the postcards?

I did count the postcards, but most of them are in trading card format anyway with the bio-cards. If I didn't include the postcards than I would have to eliminate the handful of unique 67' Wacky Ads because they are similar in size.

[bandaches]

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

How many new products have been spoofed.  I find it odd that some people feel that there aren't that many products left to spoof yet when I am in the supermarket, it seems to me there are hundreds to spoof so I prefer new products being spoofed over spoofing the same product.

[Dr Popper]

How many new products have been spoofed.  I find it odd that some people feel that there aren't that many products left to spoof yet when I am in the supermarket, it seems to me there are hundreds to spoof so I prefer new products being spoofed over spoofing the same product.

I don't know because I didn't look at it that way. I just counted brand new art, regardless if it was a re-spoof or not.  It would be an interesting exercise though if someone had the time to research it.     

[crackedjerk]

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

Very interesting, Rob.  I've wondered what the count was myself, but haven't been willing to put in the time to see.  I'm glad that you only counted unique titles as I certainly wouldn't count Grime heavy/dusty (or whatever the change is) as two different cards. 

That being said, it'd be interesting to break it down to just pre-1978 and post-2004.  Those in between years, to me, just kind of representa unique "no man's land" of wackys coming out sporadically.

[Dr Popper]

Very interesting, Rob.  I've wondered what the count was myself, but haven't been willing to put in the time to see.  I'm glad that you only counted unique titles as I certainly wouldn't count Grime heavy/dusty (or whatever the change is) as two different cards. 

That being said, it'd be interesting to break it down to just pre-1978 and post-2004.  Those in between years, to me, just kind of representa unique "no man's land" of wackys coming out sporadically.

I had around 122 titles for 1979 thru 1991, so that would drop it to 536.  I want to figure out what the count would be counting ALL collectible cards, as long as they are distinguishable, and look at both era's the same way.  That would be another interesting way to look at it.

[paste_anyplace]

Just curious, how did you count the Lost Wacky titles from the Flashback sets and the Abrams books? They were painted in the vintage period, but technically not published until the post-2004 era.

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

[Dr Popper]

Just curious, how did you count the Lost Wacky titles from the Flashback sets and the Abrams books? They were painted in the vintage period, but technically not published until the post-2004 era.

I did count the Lost Wackys in the Flashbacks because they were never previously released.  Same with the Abrams bonus cards.  All of the other base set Flashbacks though weren't included. 

[paste_anyplace]

I assumed that you did count them, but I was wondering if you put the "lost" titles like Fool-Aid in the "Vintage" column or in "Post-2004" column. There's a case for calling them "Vintage" because the were painted before 1991, but they were not published until the 2000s. (Splitting hairs, I know. Where's Paul to call this a point of "minutae")

I did count the Lost Wackys in the Flashbacks because they were never previously released.  Same with the Abrams bonus cards.  All of the other base set Flashbacks though weren't included. 

[Dr Popper]

I assumed that you did count them, but I was wondering if you put the "lost" titles like Fool-Aid in the "Vintage" column or in "Post-2004" column. There's a case for calling them "Vintage" because the were painted before 1991, but they were not published until the 2000s. (Splitting hairs, I know. Where's Paul to call this a point of "minutae")

I counted them in the series they were released as trading cards, so they counted in the Post-2004 era.  In other words, Flashback S1 has 8 Lost Wacky titles, so those were counted for Post-2004.

[RawGoo]

I counted them in the series they were released as trading cards, so they counted in the Post-2004 era.  In other words, Flashback S1 has 8 Lost Wacky titles, so those were counted for Post-2004.

That makes sense to me.

Based upon some other criteria you listed, am I correct in thinking that the reissues resulted in just 1 title in the count, for Ice Krunkles, and the album stickers just 4 titles for the cereals?  And did 1985 count for 44 titles?  Just wondering what you did with Beastball.

[Dr Popper]

That makes sense to me.

Based upon some other criteria you listed, am I correct in thinking that the reissues resulted in just 1 title in the count, for Ice Krunkles, and the album stickers just 4 titles for the cereals?  And did 1985 count for 44 titles?  Just wondering what you did with Beastball.

That's exactly how I did it, same #'s as you listed.   

[paste_anyplace]

I counted them in the series they were released as trading cards, so they counted in the Post-2004 era.  In other words, Flashback S1 has 8 Lost Wacky titles, so those were counted for Post-2004.

Makes sense! Thanks.

[Fanatical_and_Sickly]

That's exactly how I did it, same #'s as you listed.   

I'm guessing all the magazine titles that were modified in the album stickers didn't make the count?

[Dr Popper]

I'm guessing all the magazine titles that were modified in the album stickers didn't make the count?

That's correct, I didn't scrutinize it to that extent. 

[BustedFinger]

It would be interesting to get a count that includes of all the variations of the artwork that were published.  Weren't there a couple of titles in the reprints that were different than when they were printed in the originals?

[Dr Popper]

It would be interesting to get a count that includes of all the variations of the artwork that were published.  Weren't there a couple of titles in the reprints that were different than when they were printed in the originals?

There were 11 titles from the 82' series that have slightly different art.

[BustedFinger]

There were 11 titles from the 82' series that have slightly different art.

I was thinking of the Heavy Trash Bags variation in the 1980 3rd series re-issues.  I guess that is the only true "variation" in the re-issues?

[Fanatical_and_Sickly]

I was thinking of the Heavy Trash Bags variation in the 1980 3rd series re-issues.  I guess that is the only true "variation" in the re-issues?

there are also a few really minor differences in text, like on Murial Blands and Big Banana. You want to count those?

[BustedFinger]

there are also a few really minor differences in text, like on Murial Blands and Big Banana. You want to count those?

I thought there were a couple of other variations in the reprints.  Thanks for the info.

I think they should be counted if you are counting all published variations of the artwork.

[Dr Popper]

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

According to my #'s when ANS8 comes out the post-2004 total count of new titles will surpass everything between 1967 - 1991!  If someone had said in 2003 before we knew that new Wackys were on the horizon, that over the next 7 years we will see more Wackys than all of the titles combined prior to 1991 we would have said they were crazy.  At this point it's pretty much inevitable.  Here is my count after Olds 2............


VINTAGE = 658
POST-2004 = 594

ANS8 =  80?

 

[paste_anyplace]

ANS8 =  80?

The ANS8 number should be pretty close to ANS7 in terms of base set (55) and subsets (20). Last I heard there were at least 4 bonus cards planned.

The web bonus cards from the ANS7 cereal boxes are odd birds. Not sure how I would count them.

[crackedjerk]

According to my #'s when ANS8 comes out the post-2004 total count of new titles will surpass everything between 1967 - 1991!  If someone had said in 2003 before we knew that new Wackys were on the horizon, that over the next 7 years we will see more Wackys than all of the titles combined prior to 1991 we would have said they were crazy.  At this point it's pretty much inevitable.  Here is my count after Olds 2............


VINTAGE = 658
POST-2004 = 594

ANS8 =  80?

 

Wow, that's pretty impressive!  I would have thought that the post 04 stuff would have already surpassed what came prior.  Do you have a breakdown of the numbers?

[Dr Popper]

Wow, that's pretty impressive!  I would have thought that the post 04 stuff would have already surpassed what came prior.  Do you have a breakdown of the numbers?

I do have #'s broken out by series, or at least groups of series............


VINTAGE

Series 1-16 = 515
67’ Die-cuts = 15
Wacky Ads = 6
82’ Album = 5
1979 – 1980 = 1
1985 series = 44
1991 = 56
82’ Irish =   16

Total =   658


Post – 2004

ANS1 = 57
ANS2 = 60
ANS3 = 61
ANS4 = 61
ANS5 = 60
ANS6 = 85
FB series 1 = 8
FB series 2 = 10
Abrams bonus = 12
Postcard S1-6 =   26
Hall. Postcard =   8
ANS7 = 80
Olds S1 =   33
Olds S2 =   33
ANS8 =
Postcard S7 =

Total =       594

[Goodbye^Kitty^]

I've been keeping track of how many new titles have released since 2004, and comparing them to the total released in the "vintage" era.  My count in the vintage era includes the 67' Die-cuts thru the 1991 series.  For both eras I am only counting unique titles, so repeated titles don't count.  The post-2004 era is definitely closing in on the vintage!  After ANS7 and the Halloween postcards, this is where I have it.................

VINTAGE -  658
POST-2004 - 559   

That's awesome to know, thanks for sharing. At least it goes to show long live Wackies! Even with the popularity of GPKs, Wackies have been around over a decade longer too! Im proud to be a Wacky Wackateer!

[slamjim]

Why not count the OS posters, tattoos and patches sets? They were sold in boxes as series.

[BumChex]

Why not count the OS posters, tattoos and patches sets? They were sold in boxes as series.

I think he is referring to individual unique titles and not everything that was available.

[Dr Popper]

I think he is referring to individual unique titles and not everything that was available.

That's correct, I was just counting titles in a trading card format. 

[RawGoo]

I do have #'s broken out by series, or at least groups of series............


VINTAGE

Series 1-16 = 515
67’ Die-cuts = 15
Wacky Ads = 6
82’ Album = 5
1979 – 1980 = 1
1985 series = 44
1991 = 56
82’ Irish =   16

Total =   658


Post – 2004

ANS1 = 57
ANS2 = 60
ANS3 = 61
ANS4 = 61
ANS5 = 60
ANS6 = 85
FB series 1 = 8
FB series 2 = 10
Abrams bonus = 12
Postcard S1-6 =   26
Hall. Postcard =   8
ANS7 = 80
Olds S1 =   33
Olds S2 =   33
ANS8 =
Postcard S7 =

Total =       594

How did you count the postcard S1-6 to be 26?  Isn't it 37?  And the Resee's Peepers promo would make 38.

[BumChex]

How did you count the postcard S1-6 to be 26?  Isn't it 37?  And the Resee's Peepers promo would make 38.

Peepers was just a promo and never released. I don't think he is counting unique promo's, or is he?

[slamjim]

That's correct, I was just counting titles in a trading card format.  

Many of the posters have unique art and there is even a completely unique title. I think they should be counted.

[DrDeal]

I don't know because I didn't look at it that way. I just counted brand new art, regardless if it was a re-spoof or not.  It would be an interesting exercise though if someone had the time to research it.     

I like the sound of "re-spoof"   

DrDeal

[Dr Popper]

How did you count the postcard S1-6 to be 26?  Isn't it 37?  And the Resee's Peepers promo would make 38.

Hmm, it's been a while since I added those up but I may have just been strictly looking at trading cards, which would mean the series 1-3 titles wouldn't have counted because they weren't made in bio-card format like the S4-6 + Halloween.  I may have only counted the bonus cards for S1-3. 

I know, you are going yo ask me why did I then count the 6 titles in the Wacky Ad series if I didn't count the postcards.  I'm not sure.  If I get a chance tomorrow I'll go through my checklists and count again.  It will give me an excuse to go through my binder books!