First off, I am not basing anything on facts other than what was on the other forum. To me, you looked like you were looking for a witch hunt. That may have been my prospective on this but it sure seemed that way to me. It could have been your friendly bantering with Greg but it sure looked differently to me. Anyway, Yes, the price was $75. As Rob mentioned he was offered the same deal. You also have to realize these were stickers with die-cuts and that takes a hell of a lot more time and production to produce than some cards that David sold. David did not sell die-cut stickers so the analogy is irrelevant. I believe that Chip printed and cut the cards. He also had to make the die-cuts for each card. This is a lot of money! I don't understand how you can talk about facts and not realize there is real production costs involved. This stuff isn't cheap to produce! Topps outsoures their production to save them money. I am sure they take bids on all of their cards.
David probably hired a printer to reproduce the cards with images he had. That is pretty simple. When you take into account of actually making stickers with die-cuts for only 100 sets than that is a different animal all together. Topps can do it because they are printing millions of cards. That is part of the initial cost. Producing only 100 sticker sets is something that Topps wouldn't even consider unless they were charging $100 per pack. Do you really think printing a set is so cheap? I'm not in the printing business but I am in the outsourced tech business and I know you can't create a datacenter for a couple of businesses otherwise you will be out of business.
I absolutely turned it into a witchhunt once I realized there was a witch involved. Please stop babbling if you aren;'t going to take the time to read the posts you make vague reference to. You are self admittedly super hyper which clearly translates into your inability to actually read posts versus glazing over them.
I didn't kill this set until I tried to do greg's job in policing ebay when JFK's brother put a set on ebay(if my memory serves me correctly, this would be in late July or August of the year these came out). I missed that marc simon had already ebayed a set.
I bashed JFK's bro and wondered why greg wasn't doing the same since it was supposedly the most cardinal sin to put them on ebay. greg instead starting bashing me for policing these. That is when the light went on for me that he was planning to profit from this just like he has with all aspects of wackys(have you conveniently forgotten that his fight with topps is all about his getting cut out of profit making?). I kept asking him why he didn't and continued to refuse to post the selling price of these sets....he ignored those posts. Go see for yourself. Martin recollects the same as it is a FACT. greg for some reason refused to post the price because he KNEW it was not his real cost and he knew he planned to fence these to make profits once the inflated ebay prices became known.
Don't you think if someone was TRULY concerned about these hitting ebay for profits that he would do everything possible to inform the masses through public posts and otherwise that the set price was $75 and NOT to bid these up on ebay?
Also, if you believe diecutting adds 700% to the costs of production, you need a serious wake up call. David Saunders did NOT produce millions, he produce a few thousand so he also didn't get huge volume discounts. Your argument that $75 is likely to be the real cost is laughable. Now if greg inflated his "cost" by adding all sorts of $ to his effort to find images and such, that is bogus and just a way to profit from these sets playing a shell game with the costs.
