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Offline ToadallyDude

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Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« on: July 25, 2019, 04:31:34 PM »
Since I climb out of my cave every 5 years & log on to see what you guys are up to, I thought I'd ask the current Wacky gurus a question...  What's still LEFT UNDISCOVERED from the old lists of items we all wanted to find?

Top on my list was always:  Original Art to the "Toadal" sticker from the 8th series that was pulled and replaced with Bone Ami.  (...or even an image of it)

We never really knew for sure if that title had ever been fully flushed out and painted by Saunders before it got pulled.  But the fact that it made it into the 1973 Wacky Poster set, and was hand-written (if I remember) in a blank space on an 8th-Series uncut sheet gave enough clues that it existed at one point.  Duane's Photoshopped squeeze that made the Lost Wackys is cool to see, of course.  But seeing the actual original "sticker" version would be amazing.  But I've never heard of it existing or anyone actually seeing it, or seeing even a photo of it (like we got to see for some of the lost Irish titles). 

So, what ELSE is still out there left undiscovered that is LIKELY to exist?  Has anyone ever made a LIST?  (We always liked lists). 

I suppose getting too much into the weeds could create an unmanageable task, adding things that would be nearly impossible, like, "5 Wacky Ad Shipping Case", or random anomalies that are technically possible like, "10th Black box with Yellow packs and 2nd series stickers in it", etc. 

But I'm thinking more things like:  "Documented checklist from Topps of all existing 1979 Test Stickers" or "Shedds Stickers" or "Wooden Placks"  (even though the current guess is probably accurate).  Or for that matter, and uncut sheet of any of those, proving rarities.  Just a thought.  I have no idea where you guys are at these days with uncovered mysteries & documented lists.  But that was always the stuff I liked the most.

Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2019, 04:45:26 PM »
Scott,

I hate to sound negative but this hobby peaked 10 years ago. All the cool research worthy items pretty much surfaced with the Topps Vault. Once that ran its course there hasnt been much to speak of. Cool vintage finds have really dried up as well. In the early 2000s there would routinely be full or partial wax boxes, desirable collections, etc. turning up on eBay. But Im starting to think most of whats out there has surfaced already, because unopened material rarely turns up anymore and large collections rarely do either.

Offline CaseyRob

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 12:42:00 PM »
I know I'm the only guy who cares about the 1994 Madcaps series, but... I'm still holding out hope that the Wacky Caps images were also made as blank-backed slammers for the series.

Offline ToadallyDude

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2019, 04:34:48 PM »
Wow, the POGS!  Haven't thought of those forever.  Seems like we all wondered about the slammers way back when too.  But without an uncut sheet of them, I guess that would never be known.  I think I still have mine somewhere, so I'll have to check what I have.  You never see mention of POGS anywhere anymore.  What a temporary fad that was. 

Where did all that historical stuff from the giant "Warehouse" find in PA end up out there?  I remember being one of the first people to get to make offers on that stuff, and grabbed the Irish Box Proof (for a fortune, if I remember right), which was one of a kind at that time & then faded in interest once the Irish stuff wasn't as mysterious anymore.  But that stash was HUGE.  Uncut sheets & printing receipts and original signed letters, etc.  I only have a couple items left from that major find, but it seemed like the people who had most of it originally aren't involved anymore.  So, I wonder if it all got bought up & put together in a collection.  Can't remember if I ever had a complete list of items, but I'm sure Ernie or one of the original MAG-7 would have had it, too.

Offline crackedjerk

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2019, 06:40:19 AM »
I know I'm the only guy who cares about the 1994 Madcaps series, but... I'm still holding out hope that the Wacky Caps images were also made as blank-backed slammers for the series.

I've always had a soft spot for the pogs.  Partly because they were such a short-lived and bizarre little niche of the hobby.  And also because I had two "finds" of, like 3-4 boxes at a card store in MN.  It was fun to open the packs as the Wacky pogs were like searching for inserts in the days before randomly inserted special cards were a thing.

Offline mikecho

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2019, 10:59:09 AM »
Forgive me if I express ignorance here, but...who or what is the MAG-7?

Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2019, 11:40:07 AM »
Forgive me if I express ignorance here, but...who or what is the MAG-7?

That term is usually used to refer to the 7 big original series rarities: Band-Ache, Run Tony, Spic and Span, Bum, Choke, Grime Heavy, Pupsi....eventually it was changed to Mag 8 and Scoot N/C was included.

But in this instance, it refers to the nickname Scott and his pals gave themselves a long time ago, as an homage to the above.

Offline mikecho

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2019, 02:46:12 PM »
That term is usually used to refer to the 7 big original series rarities: Band-Ache, Run Tony, Spic and Span, Bum, Choke, Grime Heavy, Pupsi....eventually it was changed to Mag 8 and Scoot N/C was included.

But in this instance, it refers to the nickname Scott and his pals gave themselves a long time ago, as an homage to the above.
So I guess that MAG is an acronym.

Can you please tell me what it stands for?

Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2019, 03:49:20 PM »
So I guess that MAG is an acronym.

Can you please tell me what it stands for?

Magnificent...its a play on the movie The Magnificent 7.

Offline mikecho

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 04:01:36 PM »
Okay, thanks! That explains a lot.

Offline ToadallyDude

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2019, 06:30:39 PM »
That term is usually used to refer to the 7 big original series rarities: Band-Ache, Run Tony, Spic and Span, Bum, Choke, Grime Heavy, Pupsi....eventually it was changed to Mag 8 and Scoot N/C was included.

But in this instance, it refers to the nickname Scott and his pals gave themselves a long time ago, as an homage to the above.

Well... I don't know who was the one that carried it over to us as people.  But it was definitely just because there happened to be 7 of us, not the "Magnificent" part for sure.  I think it was just because we kept referring to the Mag-7 cards so often, since that was what we chased in the beginning before the Art took over.  But the cards grew beyond Mag-8 when some of the other variations & information started coming out on rarities.  Who knows what it would be now with all the Maddies & cut-variations & anomalies.  Do those even count in assessing a truly complete 1-16 run now... or is the original 1-16 +8 variations still the norm?

Offline drono

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 11:19:57 AM »
The one I always wondered about was a short perforation Good and Empty.  Has one of those ever been found?

Offline bigtomi

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2019, 02:52:30 PM »
The one I always wondered about was a short perforation Good and Empty.  Has one of those ever been found?
My understanding is that not only has there not been one found, there couldn't be. G&E was cut before the 10 packs and short perfs were made. Of course, we all thought that a white back, blank top/side Spit and Spill didn't exist either, but we've seen one, we think.....

Offline RawGoo

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2019, 03:06:00 PM »
My understanding is that not only has there not been one found, there couldn't be. G&E was cut before the 10 packs and short perfs were made. Of course, we all thought that a white back, blank top/side Spit and Spill didn't exist either, but we've seen one, we think.....

That's my understanding, too.

Offline vahsurfer

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2019, 08:32:03 AM »
My madcaps - If this helps for those who have not seen them:

Richard
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Offline drono

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2019, 10:59:27 AM »
My understanding is that not only has there not been one found, there couldn't be. G&E was cut before the 10 packs and short perfs were made. Of course, we all thought that a white back, blank top/side Spit and Spill didn't exist either, but we've seen one, we think.....

Mine too, but stranger things have shown up, and I'm not really that active in the hobby anymore.  For the perforation variations, they should be completely different sheets, and I agree that Good and Empty should have been pulled before then, but who really knows.

With back variations, they should be the same cut with just different sticker paper.  I have tried explaining that to those on eBay who swear up and down that they have a 1st tan Lavirus, but I suppose I should stop doing a battle of wits with the unarmed.

Offline bigtomi

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Re: Yet UNDISCOVERED Wacky items - What's left?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2019, 11:13:14 AM »
I have tried explaining to those on eBay who swear up and down that they have a 1st tan Lavirus, but I suppose I should stop doing a battle of wits with the unarmed.
Yeah, Ive given up that fight.