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Offline Rabanv

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Latest Inquiry
« on: July 22, 2019, 05:43:11 PM »
I have been out of touch for a little while.I just wanted to find out if any of you dedicated Wacky sticker collectors every so often on Ebay see a unpunched 1967 "Cracked Animals" or "Ratz" die cut that is being offered  at  a somewhat affordable price.I have not seen anything of Ratz on Ebay for awhile,however I have seen the Cracked Animals unpunched version.I also did recently see a punched out Ratz die cut from 1967.I do have the feeling that the punched out versions are probably the best that can be found at this point that is affordable.I am welcoming any feedback from any of the collectors regarding my latest comment.

Offline NationalSpittoon

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2019, 03:21:14 AM »
They are never affordable, unless up for auction. Even then, they still break the bank.

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2019, 04:31:45 AM »
A nice unpunched Ratz or Cracked Animals will likely be well into 4 figures.  I'm happy with my Cracked Animals but still on the lookout for Ratz.  Once I find a nice Ratz, my punched set including Ratz and Cracked Animals will be available.

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Offline ToadallyDude

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 05:27:37 PM »
It's wild to think that Ratz & Cracked were the 'holy grails' of Wackys way back when.  Then soon after all that hype, the #21 variations and rare boxes & pack and 5Ę Ad wrapper and other things started eclipsing the crazy $500+ Ratz/Cracked prices.  And then the Art was it.  After all the wild variations and test items and boxes and Topps vault stuff came out... I'm surprised Ratz & Cracked still have that major value.  At one time, I had all the Die-cut variations except R&C, actually.  Never felt like shelling out for those 2 for some reason.  Wasn't it discovered that one of the #21 variations was actually more rare than R&C, based on the sheets, though?  My Wacky history is escaping me at the moment as I've been out of it for so long.  I'd be surprised if I could still identify which 1-16 series all the titles are in anymore.  Been concentrating on VR/AR, though... so one of these days maybe I'll make a Wacky Packages VR experience.  Virtual museum?  Wouldn't surprise me if Topps did some AR-enabled Wackys at some point, too.  THAT could be really cool.

Offline Rabanv

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 06:05:51 PM »
I just noticed on Ebay(Thanks to Paul Maul),there actually is a unpunched Ratz No. 32 die cut for bid up until next Tuesday July30th.So far ,there are 8 bids and the current price is below $100.I am very sure by Next Tuesday,the bids will go sky high.At this point,I am not putting in a bid for it.I would be almost shocked if by next Tuesday,the price is still below $100.The condition of it is not too bad.

Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 06:05:57 PM »
Yes, Jolly Mean 21 is the rarest Die Cut.

Offline Rabanv

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 06:51:52 PM »
Really?No. 21 Jolly Mean Giant 1967 die cut more rare than Ratz or Cracked Animals.I never attempted to try to find the extra 12 variations from the 1967 Die cut series.I just felt that a Jollly Mean Giant 1967 die cut is a die cut and that the No. on the back really doesn't matter.However that is only my opinion.

Offline Paul_Maul

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 08:04:34 PM »
Really?No. 21 Jolly Mean Giant 1967 die cut more rare than Ratz or Cracked Animals.I never attempted to try to find the extra 12 variations from the 1967 Die cut series.I just felt that a Jollly Mean Giant 1967 die cut is a die cut and that the No. on the back really doesn't matter.However that is only my opinion.

Thatís a perfectly valid opinion. Itís just a fact that the Jolly Mean 21 is rarer than Ratz or Cracked.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2019, 03:31:36 AM »
Thatís a perfectly valid opinion. Itís just a fact that the Jolly Mean 21 is rarer than Ratz or Cracked.

My Jolly Mean #21 is a PSA 4 and that was even tough to come by.  I'd rather a Ratz PSA 5 to go with my Cracked Animals, but I might give in and bid on Matt's 4.

Offline Rabanv

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2019, 04:52:46 AM »
I learned real fast that the JollyMean giant No. 43 1967 die cut is much easier to find than the No. 21 version.I am happy enough with No.43 because it is the first Jolly Mean giant die cut as opposed to No. 21b being the second version.

Offline NationalSpittoon

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2019, 05:05:45 AM »
Yes, #43 is much more common than Jolly #21...

The Ratz is up to $760, I believe. I bid up to $91 and waited. Now, it's beyond me. I thought it would go for around $1000, but not to almost $800 in the first 12 hours...

I guess this is the precipitate of it being the only Ratz on eBay right now.

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2019, 05:11:30 AM »
Yep, already up to $760, with 8 different bidders.

Offline Rabanv

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2019, 07:56:07 AM »
I would not be the least bit surprised by the time of next Tuesday if the Ratz  die cut goes up over $2,000.I would be quite surprised it if didn't.

Offline NationalSpittoon

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2019, 11:42:17 AM »
I would not be the least bit surprised by the time of next Tuesday if the Ratz  die cut goes up over $2,000.I would be quite surprised it if didn't.

I donít know about $2000. I think if it was raw, it would sell for more. The grade may turn some off, albeit Iím not included in that bunch. You never know.

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Offline Rabanv

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2019, 02:06:12 PM »
To Paul Maul,I saw the November 11,2017 Auction of the PSA 4 Ratz 1967 Unpunched die cut going over over $2,500.Personally I feel that is definitely a normal reasonable asking price for a fairly good unpunched Ratz die cut.Trying to find it for a lesser price is highly unlikely.

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Offline ToadallyDude

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2019, 04:08:06 PM »
Yes, Jolly Mean 21 is the rarest Die Cut.

Thought so.  I guess my Wacky memory isn't as bad as I thought.  I guess I should feel good about owning a nice #21 Jolly even though I never had R/C.  I think I actually had at least 2 of those #21's go through me over the years.  But that was before we discovered how rare they were compared to the R/C royalty.  So, they usually went for 50-100 bucks if I remember.  And we all used to balk at Macaluso's Die-Cut prices of $10+ for the sharp NM specimens at his booth.  If someone bought them all & got them graded, they'd probably have been a million bucks by now.  Apple in 1995, Diecuts in 1997 or Bitcoin in 2010... not sure which would've been a better bet.

Offline Rabanv

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2019, 03:22:35 PM »
To all the Faithful Die hard wacky collectors,The Ratz unpunched 1967 die cut is still up for bid until 6:40 THIS EVENING.The current bid is $1,025.00.That is not a bd price.Frankly I think it is a steal.I won't be bidding for it but if anyone is interested,go for it.

Offline Brian Mc

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2019, 03:44:51 PM »
Who got the Ratz? I was winning until the last minute  :]

Pat??
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2019, 03:54:56 PM »
Who got the Ratz? I was winning until the last minute  :]

Pat??

Nope.

Offline Rabanv

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2019, 04:20:49 PM »
I have a question for the wacky collectors.I have once in awhile seen on Ebay a reprint of the 1967 Ratz die cut with the exact stitching format and on the back with the words"No.32 of 44 wacky packages".Is there someone that is making reprints of these die cuts and selling them on Ebay?If so,isn't that defrauding the collectors?

Offline Brian Mc

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2019, 05:01:28 PM »
Not defrauding if it's clearly noted as a re-print or reproduction. I had a Good & Empty repro that was very nice, but clearly a repro. It was a great 'placeholder' until I finally got a real one. I recently gave it to someone on this forum.
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Offline Rabanv

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Re: Latest Inquiry
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2019, 05:40:10 PM »
Interesting.I learn something new almost everyday.

Offline NationalSpittoon

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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2019, 03:06:15 AM »
I have Ratz and Cracked repros as placeholders as well. They have a plain white back and sticker, very easy to tell the difference.

The Ratz got one bid for $55~ more last second. Wish I had the money, I wouldíve definitely at least made that person spend more. I bid on the Ratz until $90.

 

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