Author Topic: FS: Unopened Wacky Packages Packs and Boxes -- Now and at National Sports  (Read 736 times)

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Offline DynamicTwo

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As promised, here is a list of the original Wacky Packages packs and boxes that are currently for sale and will be at booth 600 at this year's National Sports Collectors Convention in Cleveland August 1 - 5. These are just part of two files that contain all of my sports and non sports packs and boxes and their prices. The first list will be released today on Net 54 but if you want a copy of both lists you can call me on 914-522-3853 or e-mail me at dynamictwo@aol.com and I will get you both lists today or as soon as I can get to it. If you have no interest in the packs and boxes, you can always say hello in Cleveland anyway. Please note that all items are raw ungraded but all of that information is in the other lists; all packs and boxes are in outstanding condition.

Enjoy -- Steve Sabow  -- Dynamictwo@aol.com ---  914-522-3853

Wacky Packages Unopened Packs:
   1973 Series 1 – Bandache showing -- $7,000
   1973 Series 1 – Weakies showing -- $1,000
   1973 Series 1 – Can’t see card -- $1,000
   1973 Series 1 – Horrid Deoderant showing -- $1,000
   1973 Series 1 – Vicejoy showing -- $1,200
   1967 Diecut – Demented Tomatoes showing -- $4,500
    1967 Diecut – KookAid showing -- $2,500
   1967 Diecut – Cracked jerk showing -- $3,200
   1967 Diecut – 6 Up showing -- $3,000
   1967 Diecut – Breadcrust Hash showing -- $3,200
   1967 Diecut – Grave Train Showing -- $4,500
   1975 Series 16 – Scoot showing -- $1,000
   1974 Series 14 – 20+ packs graded -- $75 to $125
   1974 Series 6 – 2 packs -- $75
Wacky Packages Unopened Boxes:
   7th series -- $3,000
   7th series no gum -- $2,400
   7th series 48 packs no box -- $1,440
   11th series -- $5,500
   12th series -- $2,400
   13th series -- $3,600
   14th series -- $2,400
   15th series -- $3,600


Offline NationalSpittoon

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The Series 1 Bandache pack and the Diecut Demented pack are awesome. Can't afford that kinda thing, unfortunately.
Mark

Offline DynamicTwo

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By the way, my prices are not always set in stone. I am always open to discussion except for series 1 1973 packs.

Best regards,

Steve

Offline bandaches

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An 85 fold unopened series 1 pack just sold for under $300 on ebay.  Why are your packs worth so many more times what the open market just declared as the fair market value?  I continue to try to reconcile your claims on market values against actual examples of open market sales.
Contact me at bandaches@yahoo.com as I have tons of wackys for sale!

Offline NationalSpittoon

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An 85 fold unopened series 1 pack just sold for under $300 on ebay.  Why are your packs worth so many more times what the open market just declared as the fair market value?  I continue to try to reconcile your claims on market values against actual examples of open market sales.

Under $250, even.
Mark

Offline Paul_Maul

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An 85 fold unopened series 1 pack just sold for under $300 on ebay.  Why are your packs worth so many more times what the open market just declared as the fair market value?  I continue to try to reconcile your claims on market values against actual examples of open market sales.

There was no evidence that the pack in the eBay auction was actually 1st series. The seller, who has no reputation in wackys, merely stated that. Knowledgeable bidders had no choice but to assume it could be 2nd or 3rd series. The wrapper looked very opaque and the series might not even be distinguishable in hand. Wasn’t in great shape either, though I have no idea what condition Steve’s packs are in.

Also, while this pack had no obvious red flags, I would be willing to pay more to be able to examine a pack in person. The reality is no one has faith anymore in uncertified packs. The unopened pack market is moving heavily toward PSA certification, following the booming market for sports packs. I am 100 percent certain that a high grade 1st series pack certified by PSA would sell for $1000-2000 at this point, possibly more.
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Offline Paul_Maul

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Just to be clear, I think the unopened pack market is in a Catch-22 situation at this juncture. No one trusts uncertified packs, and the market is crying out for what PSA (and the now defunct GAI before them) tried to provide.

Yet no one has been able to come up with a way of encapsulating the packs without a large number of them being damaged during encapsulation and shipping. And I would submit that there is no possible way to do that safely given the nature of unopened packs that contain gum.

So the majority of advanced pack collectors in the sports hobby are holding their noses and trying to find PSA certified packs that are not already damaged....and then hoping they stay undamaged if they are being shipped. The majority of people willing to pay a lot for desirable wacky unopened product are those same people.

Offline Paul_Maul

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In case anyone thinks I’m exaggerating this problem, here are the first two images of PSA 9 Mint Graded unopened packs I just found on the internet. It makes me ill. They’re certifying super high grade packs only to ruin them 😢



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Online RawGoo

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That's so horrible - worse than the Hungry Jerk 10...........

Offline bigtomi

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worse than the Hungry Jerk 10
EXACTLY what I thought when I saw it...great minds think alike.   ;)

I would submit that it is easier to do this to a sticker than a pack...doesn't make either one acceptable, of course.

Offline MoldRush

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An 85 fold unopened series 1 pack just sold for under $300 on ebay.  Why are your packs worth so many more times what the open market just declared as the fair market value?  I continue to try to reconcile your claims on market values against actual examples of open market sales.
I'm no expert on unopened pack values by any stretch, but there is another obvious flaw in the price list.  A full 7th box is listed at $3,000, while 48 packs w/o a box are priced at $1,440.  By subtraction, that leaves an empty 7th box at over $1,500.  Unless some premium is being placed on the full box due to all original content not combed over for potential Grime-Heavys or something like that, this makes no sense.

Offline Paul_Maul

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EXACTLY what I thought when I saw it...great minds think alike.   ;)

I would submit that it is easier to do this to a sticker than a pack...doesn't make either one acceptable, of course.

The problem is if the pack has loose gum there is no way to stop it from moving around inside the pack when it’s shipped, and the razor sharp corners tear holes in the wrapper.

Offline bandaches

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There was no evidence that the pack in the eBay auction was actually 1st series. The seller, who has no reputation in wackys, merely stated that. Knowledgeable bidders had no choice but to assume it could be 2nd or 3rd series. The wrapper looked very opaque and the series might not even be distinguishable in hand. Wasn’t in great shape either, though I have no idea what condition Steve’s packs are in.

Also, while this pack had no obvious red flags, I would be willing to pay more to be able to examine a pack in person. The reality is no one has faith anymore in uncertified packs. The unopened pack market is moving heavily toward PSA certification, following the booming market for sports packs. I am 100 percent certain that a high grade 1st series pack certified by PSA would sell for $1000-2000 at this point, possibly more.
so how many of duo's 1st series packs are you buying at his prices....I'll make a bold prediction....ZERO!  Let me know when you have bought him out....
Contact me at bandaches@yahoo.com as I have tons of wackys for sale!

Offline bandaches

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I'm no expert on unopened pack values by any stretch, but there is another obvious flaw in the price list.  A full 7th box is listed at $3,000, while 48 packs w/o a box are priced at $1,440.  By subtraction, that leaves an empty 7th box at over $1,500.  Unless some premium is being placed on the full box due to all original content not combed over for potential Grime-Heavys or something like that, this makes no sense.
Even if he is implying the 7th full box has all packs originally placed in that box and the 48 packs are randomly accumulated, it is not worth $1500 premium.  I do feel it is worth some premium though.
Contact me at bandaches@yahoo.com as I have tons of wackys for sale!

Offline Bigmuc13

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That series 16 with a Scoot showing is a bit pricey.  You already have one of the double prints in the pack.  Even a pack with a good sticker showing in the back is worth about $300.
Still looking for Series 17