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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #595 on: January 17, 2022, 12:01:07 PM »
I said it on, of all places, Instagram. I no longer have Instagram because I don’t care to have it, so the post isn’t available.

As far as people attempting to send in poor grade cards, that’s up to them. It does not mean that I am going to. The pricing of cards also doesn’t have to do with PSA’s grading, it has to do with price guides and outrageous sellers. My fun is adding a new PSA 8-9 to my sets. Whose fun is more important? I’m sure there’s some give or take here. I’m paying even more than you, believe me.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #596 on: January 17, 2022, 12:05:31 PM »
Some people can’t seem to understand that liking high grade cards has nothing directly to do with money. It just happens they are in low supply and higher demand. I don’t have a lot of money either. I see guys complete a low grade 1972 baseball set in under a month. I have been working on my graded set since 2014 and it is 55% complete. I just like nice cards and am willing to be patient.
I respect that you like high grade cards, I still don't understand with your great eye why you want to pay someone else to decide for you whether you like a card given monetary value has nothing to do with it.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #597 on: January 17, 2022, 12:15:56 PM »
I respect that you like high grade cards, I still don't understand with your great eye why you want to pay someone else to decide for you whether you like a card given monetary value has nothing to do with it.

Simple: beautiful high grade raw cards are not easily available. The money PSA grading attracts brings them to market.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #598 on: January 17, 2022, 12:39:11 PM »
Simple: beautiful high grade raw cards are not easily available. The money PSA grading attracts brings them to market.
So you only buy PSA card you never submit your own cards?
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #599 on: January 17, 2022, 12:50:01 PM »
So you only buy PSA card you never submit your own cards?

Yes, I have found some nice cards over the years, but more wackys than sports cards. I have submitted my share of sports cards also, but probably only about 10% of the graded baseball cards I have are self submitted.

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« Reply #600 on: January 17, 2022, 01:12:12 PM »
sellers don't drive prices, buyers do.

If you looked at eBay auctions for high grade cards vs. BIN’s I expect you’d see much different results.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #601 on: January 17, 2022, 01:50:17 PM »
Slightly off topic, but a page of original Spiderman art from the first issue featuring his black costume, sold this week for $3.3 million….other recent sales of Action #1 and Amazing Fantasy #1 have hit $3 million…During these times if ridiculous inflation…someone has lots of money yo blow…

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #602 on: January 17, 2022, 01:57:18 PM »
Does the seller pay regular IRS taxes on that???

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« Reply #603 on: January 17, 2022, 01:57:22 PM »
Slightly off topic, but a page of original Spiderman art from the first issue featuring his black costume, sold this week for $3.3 million….other recent sales of Action #1 and Amazing Fantasy #1 have hit $3 million…During these times if ridiculous inflation…someone has lots of money yo blow…

People would probably rather buy expensive items in hobbies than see their real trading investments tank

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #604 on: January 17, 2022, 02:01:45 PM »
I couldn’t believe that 3.3 million Spidey art sale. I understand the connection to Venom, but this page is from 1984, who wouldn’t rather have some John Romita Spidey art? The art is by Mike Zeck, a nice artist but hardly a top tier Marvel legend.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #605 on: January 17, 2022, 08:38:57 PM »
in rising inflation people will transfer their money to different things.  Especially in the beginning of rising inflation. 

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #606 on: January 18, 2022, 05:21:20 AM »
I hear you about buying lots, but there is only so far into a set build that you can expect to be able to do that without getting a ton of duplicates. Eventually you’ll have to pursue the singles you need, whatever the cost. Or just be OK with not completing it, I guess.

When I put together my 1973 set, I probably bought lots until I got around 75%, then started pursuing the individual cards.  There are a lot of "complete your set" auctions available for just such a venture where you can pick and choose what to buy.  I'm not sure how long it will take me to complete the 1972 set.  The series make it very tough, and I'm not sure how quickly I'd like to spend the $1.3K book value that's left.  I collect too many other things to concentrate solely on this set.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #607 on: January 19, 2022, 06:31:03 PM »
If you looked at eBay auctions for high grade cards vs. BIN’s I expect you’d see much different results.
Not following your point,  buyers can ask any price they want but it doesn't matter if the sellers don't buy at those prices
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #608 on: January 20, 2022, 01:26:53 AM »
Not following your point,  buyers can ask any price they want but it doesn't matter if the sellers don't buy at those prices

That’s exactly my point???

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #609 on: January 20, 2022, 08:51:12 AM »
That’s exactly my point???
if you meant to say SOLD ebay auctions vs high BINs, then yes, I see we agree.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #610 on: January 22, 2022, 12:25:32 PM »
I hope no one lost sleep - the Sootball is back in my possession.  :]

There’s nothing on the sheet that they provided in the package regarding the lack of a grade, which I find interesting.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #611 on: March 26, 2022, 03:58:36 AM »
This looks "off" to me.  Thoughts?



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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #612 on: March 26, 2022, 04:14:20 AM »
This looks "off" to me.  Thoughts?



Not exactly a bright white background.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #613 on: March 26, 2022, 04:35:59 AM »
Not exactly a bright white background.

PSA doesn't usually care about that.  It looks crooked to me, but maybe I'm imagining it?

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #614 on: March 26, 2022, 05:23:32 AM »
This looks "off" to me.  Thoughts?



I saw that this morning as well. It looks slightly tilted, but I always take images online with a tablespoon of salt. Some of the other 10’s look nicer.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #615 on: March 26, 2022, 05:43:48 AM »
It is slightly diamond cut. The bottom edge is parallel to the holder, but the vertical edges are not.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #616 on: March 26, 2022, 07:12:24 AM »
https://www.psacard.com/cert/63742539

High res scan available there. Looks toned too. Not particularly nice for a 10 but don’t color me surprised.

Also, you’re telling me some guy submitted five Wackys and they all got tens??? I doubt it. Wonder how much money got thrown at PSA. Must have been a lot considering the outrageous prices these are listed at.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #617 on: March 26, 2022, 09:48:05 AM »
https://www.psacard.com/cert/63742539

High res scan available there. Looks toned too. Not particularly nice for a 10 but don’t color me surprised.

Also, you’re telling me some guy submitted five Wackys and they all got tens??? I doubt it. Wonder how much money got thrown at PSA. Must have been a lot considering the outrageous prices these are listed at.

He may have submitted a bunch of cards with minimum grade 10. That way, anything that grades lower is not encapsulated. Unlikely, since the grading fee is still charged, but I think large submitters sometimes do this to make it easier to resubmit something they think will only have value at a certain grade.

Suggesting PSA is taking bribes is a bit over the top. Any whiff of that would ruin their business on the spot, I am sure it is very carefully policed.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #618 on: March 26, 2022, 05:52:24 PM »
Looks like Roberts took the opportunity to purchase the terrible looking Taster's Choke PSA 10 that has been on eBay for years now. Quite odd since it benefits his set less now than it would have years ago. Now he does not get the #1 uncontested grade bonus. Interesting.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #619 on: March 26, 2022, 09:08:45 PM »
I sure as hell wouldn't spend the money Probstein is asking for those 10's. That is just ridiculous money wasted


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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #620 on: March 27, 2022, 03:52:09 AM »
I sure as hell wouldn't spend the money Probstein is asking for those 10's. That is just ridiculous money wasted

Me neither. Usually the auctions start at $0.99. Not sure why these are so high.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #621 on: March 27, 2022, 11:58:23 AM »
Looks like Roberts took the opportunity to purchase the terrible looking Taster's Choke PSA 10 that has been on eBay for years now. Quite odd since it benefits his set less now than it would have years ago. Now he does not get the #1 uncontested grade bonus. Interesting.
How on earth did that Tasters Choke get a 10 with that centering?  Did someone convince PSA that is the correct centering for that card?  It is ridiculous that PSA10s are being pitted against each other with clear variations in quality,
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #623 on: March 31, 2022, 09:30:14 AM »
How on earth did that Tasters Choke get a 10 with that centering?  Did someone convince PSA that is the correct centering for that card?  It is ridiculous that PSA10s are being pitted against each other with clear variations in quality,

It was also slightly diamond cut. I’m not sure why it got a 10. I would have given it a 7 at best. And, yes, PSA is very inconsistent at times.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #625 on: April 01, 2022, 02:46:30 PM »
PSA 9 Boredom's and PSA 9 Campy sold for close to $3,700 each on Mile High Card Co. Sold for around $1,000 more than what I would have expected.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #626 on: April 02, 2022, 04:02:13 PM »
How is this possible? Which inept individual did this? I wonder if it can be ascertained from the number who did it. This has to be the worst PSA error I have ever seen.


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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #627 on: April 02, 2022, 04:21:30 PM »
I think the submitter chooses how a card is designated. My guess is that the order changed and PSA didn’t take the two extra seconds to confirm that they were grading the correct card with the correct certification.

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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #628 on: April 02, 2022, 11:22:10 PM »
PSA 9 Boredom's and PSA 9 Campy sold for close to $3,700 each on Mile High Card Co. Sold for around $1,000 more than what I would have expected.

Someone was a mile high when they made that purchase.
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Re: WP Forum PSA Thread
« Reply #629 on: April 02, 2022, 11:24:03 PM »
How is this possible? Which inept individual did this? I wonder if it can be ascertained from the number who did it. This has to be the worst PSA error I have ever seen.


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Kinda goes to show that a PSA grade is about.....worthless.
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