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Offline NationalSpittoon

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Questions about PSA
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:06:11 AM »
I don't have many real questions about PSA, but I think it would be cool to get some of my nicer cards graded. But, I'd like to point out the fact that I've read most, if not all topics, regarding PSA for general information about the grading system. Yet, all of the posts I've seen about pricing have been about 6 dollars per card. The prices shown on the PSA website are 18 dollars for the least valuable of cards. 18 dollars can't really seem like a worthy investment considering the potential grader might knock off points for something you cannot see or notice, and you can't get notified about what's wrong with your card. So, what you presumably considered might be a graded PSA 9 Mint card from a mid series set, which might just give you a 5 dollar profit if that in the long run, might turn out to be a PSA 7 and was a completely worthless and terrible decision of an investment.

So, what I'm getting at is that.. It is a cool concept to have high grade slabbed, (point out "official" grade) cards to show off to fellow collectors in the registry and possibly in shows or meet and greets. But, the possibility of getting an incredibly tough grade on your card or an incredibly "easy on you" grade might be prevalent depending on the lucky grader. And at that point, I'm not sure if it's worth it. Considering that high wager of a price that may prove regret after you get the return, and the prices for shipping on top of that, is it worth it?

Thank you for reading, and please give some info about the topic. Thanks!  ;)
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 03:16:27 PM »
I don't have many real questions about PSA, but I think it would be cool to get some of my nicer cards graded. But, I'd like to point out the fact that I've read most, if not all topics, regarding PSA for general information about the grading system. Yet, all of the posts I've seen about pricing have been about 6 dollars per card. The prices shown on the PSA website are 18 dollars for the least valuable of cards. 18 dollars can't really seem like a worthy investment considering the potential grader might knock off points for something you cannot see or notice, and you can't get notified about what's wrong with your card. So, what you presumably considered might be a graded PSA 9 Mint card from a mid series set, which might just give you a 5 dollar profit if that in the long run, might turn out to be a PSA 7 and was a completely worthless and terrible decision of an investment.

So, what I'm getting at is that.. It is a cool concept to have high grade slabbed, (point out "official" grade) cards to show off to fellow collectors in the registry and possibly in shows or meet and greets. But, the possibility of getting an incredibly tough grade on your card or an incredibly "easy on you" grade might be prevalent depending on the lucky grader. And at that point, I'm not sure if it's worth it. Considering that high wager of a price that may prove regret after you get the return, and the prices for shipping on top of that, is it worth it?

Thank you for reading, and please give some info about the topic. Thanks!  ;)


Mark, the issue of a lucky or unlucky grader should not be your primary concern. Rather, you should make sure you have a realistic and accurate understanding of what constitutes a given PSA grade. It will be a waste of money to grade anything from series 2-15 that you are not certain will get at least an 8. Feel free to post good scans of some candidates here if you want input.

Oh, and the $6 quote refers to monthly specials that you need to join PSA to be eligible for. Even as a member, specials have been bad lately, I would not anticipate much better than $7 going forward.


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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 03:23:09 PM »

Mark, the issue of a lucky or unlucky grader should not be your primary concern. Rather, you should make sure you have a realistic and accurate understanding of what constitutes a given PSA grade. It will be a waste of money to grade anything from series 2-15 that you are not certain will get at least an 8. Feel free to post good scans of some candidates here if you want input.

Oh, and the $6 quote refers to monthly specials that you need to join PSA to be eligible for. Even as a member, specials have been bad lately, I would not anticipate much better than $7 going forward.

Thanks for the info. Will do.
Mark

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2017, 03:43:12 PM »
The biggest problem I usually have is corners. Some might be OC as well. I'll get better scans if you want them.












Note: Some cards kind of look gray in the scans... You can also zoom in to see corners better.
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2017, 07:43:24 PM »
The corners look good for the most part. Several of them don't have the centering for PSA 8+, including:

Hipton
Decay
Screamsicle
Sneezer
Sucker Twin

Some of the others may do well...what's your goal in submitting them? Just curious.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 02:40:42 AM »
My goal is maybe 7s to 8s.
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2017, 02:45:33 AM »
Another thing to consider is gum and wax stains - those could result in the card getting a "ST" qualifier, or a 2 grade reduction.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2017, 04:42:00 AM »
My goal is maybe 7s to 8s.

For most common cards, a PSA 7 will not be worth the cost of grading. So if you are happy with a 7, it's best to buy it graded.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2017, 06:40:02 AM »
Out of that group, what/which card(s) would be the most successful?
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2017, 06:49:43 AM »
From what I can see, Bird Brain and Chimpanzee look the nicest. Doomed and Playskull may still be 8s but centering is not as nice. Smartz looks pretty good but has some ink smearing. Shorts looks nice but vertically oversized..however that doesn't get penalized.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 06:55:26 AM »
From what I can see, Bird Brain and Chimpanzee look the nicest. Doomed and Playskull may still be 8s but centering is not as nice. Smartz looks pretty good but has some ink smearing. Shorts looks nice but vertically oversized..however that doesn't get penalized.

I always thought Bird Brain and Chimpanzee looked really nice! I remember buying the Smartz from eGay and was pleasantly surprised, but the front does have some ink smearing as you said. I actually pulled Shorts from a 13th pack a while ago. (No it wasn't the one you gave me, I don't open my packs anymore.  ;) )
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2017, 07:00:45 AM »
This would also be nice to send to PSA if the corners were a tad better and if it was a little less OC.





The highest grades are 7's for a Botch and I'm not even sure that it would hit that..
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2017, 08:49:10 AM »
This would also be nice to send to PSA if the corners were a tad better and if it was a little less OC.





The highest grades are 7's for a Botch and I'm not even sure that it would hit that..

What do you mean "the highest grades are 7s for a Botch?"

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2017, 08:52:54 AM »
What do you mean "the highest grades are 7s for a Botch?"

In the PSA Pop Report for 1977 Shedd's, Botch Tape has a 7 as the highest grade given. (Several earned 7's)
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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2017, 09:02:12 AM »
In the PSA Pop Report for 1977 Shedd's, Botch Tape has a 7 as the highest grade given. (Several earned 7's)

Oh, I didn't notice this was a Shedds. Honestly it looks more like a 6 to me due to corner wear, but you never know.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2017, 09:07:30 AM »
In the PSA Pop Report for 1977 Shedd's, Botch Tape has a 7 as the highest grade given. (Several earned 7's)

It being a 1977 Shedd's makes a difference in whether it is worth submitting for grading - if you submit it, make sure you describe it as such, or it could end up being mis-labeled as a 2nd series white back.

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Re: Questions about PSA
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2017, 09:12:47 AM »
Oh, I didn't notice this was a Shedds. Honestly it looks more like a 6 to me due to corner wear, but you never know.

That's what I thought.
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