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Offline RawGoo

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Series 1 tan backs
« on: January 01, 2017, 10:12:47 AM »
Has anyone here completed a Series 1 tan back set?  Or, is working on a set?  I have 15 of the 30, in at least decent shape, i.e., they have their borders, don't have any writing, and are decent to look at, but with rough corners and some bends.  Just wondering how long it took anyone to find all of these.  I have a Paul Maul, but no Bandache or Lavirus, and am wondering if trying to complete the set is hopeless.

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Re: Series 1 tan backs
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 10:20:26 AM »
I had about 40% of the set in nice shape at one point, but I got them graded and sold them to help finance my more mainstream goals. The only big four title I had was Mutts, which I traded for some unopened packs years ago.

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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 10:59:00 AM »
I have a complete set.  I know I have doubles too but would have to go look. I don't think it is hopeless to try to complete.  There have been a lot of them on Ebay this past year including the hard titles. 

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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2017, 11:38:55 AM »
I have a complete set.  I know I have doubles too but would have to go look. I don't think it is hopeless to try to complete.  There have been a lot of them on Ebay this past year including the hard titles.

Thanks for the encouragement!  I need to check ebay more religiously.

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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2017, 07:19:00 PM »
Do you want me to check my doubles for you?

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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2017, 10:03:50 PM »
Do you want me to check my doubles for you?

That would be great - thanks!  Please shoot me a PM with what you find.

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Re: Series 1 tan backs
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2017, 09:28:31 AM »
Post a want list and you might be able to narrow it down.

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2017, 01:08:15 PM »
Post a want list and you might be able to narrow it down.

I posted my need list in the Buying section as it seems more people here than I thought have collected these, and maybe there's a chance of someday completing the set.

Are the tan backs known for horrible miscuts?  In making up my list, I went through my lesser condition OS1 stickers and found three on my need list (including Mutts) that I had put aside because of miscuts so bad that there was either no copyright, or parts of 2.
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Re: Series 1 tan backs
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2017, 02:32:36 PM »
I posted my need list in the Buying section as it seems more people here than I thought have collected these, and maybe there's a chance of someday completing the set.

Are the tan backs known for horrible miscuts?  In making up my list, I went through my lesser condition OS1 stickers and found three on my need list (including Mutts) that I had put aside because of miscuts so bad that there was either no copyright, or parts of 2.

Absolutely notorious for being vertically miscut. I think the machines were set up for the thicker whiteback stock and some kind of slippage occurred.

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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2017, 02:40:50 PM »
Perhaps start with getting the big 4 and assess what that will cost you and then decide if the chase is worth it, no?  I imagine the other 26 are attainable without breaking the bank.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2017, 05:38:46 AM »
Absolutely notorious for being vertically miscut. I think the machines were set up for the thicker whiteback stock and some kind of slippage occurred.

That's what I thought.  I have a Vicejoy with no toning and perfect corners, but it is so off center that not only is there no copyright, there is a portion of the bottom of the black border cut off.

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2017, 06:51:55 AM »
I've been working on a 1st tan set for at least 15 years, and I only need Paul Maul now.  They are available on eBay if you have patience. I'm also not fixated on pristine condition; as long as it has a border and no damage to the sticker, then I'll accept it on these tough to acquire sets.  Writing on the back doesn't even bother me, since I'll never see it in the card sheet.  I'm also a bargain hunter, who loves the "collecting" aspect more than just "buying," so I set a price that I'll pay and ignore anything over that amount.  That is probably why it took me a lot longer than someone who would just buy it when it gets listed.

If anyone has a tan Paul Maul, I'd like to find that last one.

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 07:06:31 AM »
I've been working on a 1st tan set for at least 15 years, and I only need Paul Maul now.  They are available on eBay if you have patience. I'm also not fixated on pristine condition; as long as it has a border and no damage to the sticker, then I'll accept it on these tough to acquire sets.  Writing on the back doesn't even bother me, since I'll never see it in the card sheet.  I'm also a bargain hunter, who loves the "collecting" aspect more than just "buying," so I set a price that I'll pay and ignore anything over that amount.  That is probably why it took me a lot longer than someone who would just buy it when it gets listed.

If anyone has a tan Paul Maul, I'd like to find that last one.

My Paul Maul is intact, well centered, no writing, but creased.  Having that tough one was what prompted me to pursue completing the set, so I want to hang onto it.  I imagine my standards will be less for a Band Ache, maybe even accepting writing on the back.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2017, 06:05:35 AM »
I've been working on a 1st tan set for at least 15 years, and I only need Paul Maul now.  They are available on eBay if you have patience. I'm also not fixated on pristine condition; as long as it has a border and no damage to the sticker, then I'll accept it on these tough to acquire sets.  Writing on the back doesn't even bother me, since I'll never see it in the card sheet.  I'm also a bargain hunter, who loves the "collecting" aspect more than just "buying," so I set a price that I'll pay and ignore anything over that amount.  That is probably why it took me a lot longer than someone who would just buy it when it gets listed.

If anyone has a tan Paul Maul, I'd like to find that last one.
I love your approach!  I am collecting punched wacky ad set!  No, not buying poor condition wacky ads and punching them, picking them up for dirt cheap on ebay when I see them.  I already did this with diecuts, my keeper set is punched, I have no needs for the borders and allows me to have such a set for far less than the cost otherwise.  I also have a complete set of the titles in the wacky doubles that were all cut apart.   That took years of watching for the special copyright difference of these cards in small lots on ebay or at allentown show.  Most of my finds were at allentown show so but across several dealers which I found to be interesting.  I suspect someone had cut them up years ago and brought them in for sale to dealers.  I scooped them all up.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2017, 06:48:48 AM »
I love your approach!  I am collecting punched wacky ad set!  No, not buying poor condition wacky ads and punching them, picking them up for dirt cheap on ebay when I see them.  I already did this with diecuts, my keeper set is punched, I have no needs for the borders and allows me to have such a set for far less than the cost otherwise.  I also have a complete set of the titles in the wacky doubles that were all cut apart.   That took years of watching for the special copyright difference of these cards in small lots on ebay or at allentown show.  Most of my finds were at allentown show so but across several dealers which I found to be interesting.  I suspect someone had cut them up years ago and brought them in for sale to dealers.  I scooped them all up.


I find people's different approaches to collecting fascinating. I understand pursuing the cut Hostess Pairs because that requires a ton of collecting effort and completing the set would be very satisfying. The punched ads and die cuts I don't really see the appeal of. Similarly, I can see settling for lower condition cards for back variant or other super tough sets, though I'd rather just not collect those sets.  Going for really nice condition is partly an esthetic thing, but it also creates a collecting challenge second to none. While I love these images, I can look at them for free on the Internet, so I don't see the point of collecting low grade cards. But I respect everyone's personal choices.
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Re: Series 1 tan backs
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2017, 07:04:28 AM »
Pat, I sent you a PM with the tans I have.  I have 12 doubles. 

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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2017, 07:30:36 AM »

I find people's different approaches to collecting fascinating. I understand pursuing the cut Hostess Pairs because that requires a ton of collecting effort and completing the set would be very satisfying. The punched ads and die cuts I don't really see the appeal of. Similarly, I can see settling for lower condition cards for back variant or other super tough sets, though I'd rather just not collect those sets.  Going for really nice condition is partly an esthetic thing, but it also creates a collecting challenge second to none. While I love these images, I can look at them for free on the Internet, so I don't see the point of collecting low grade cards. But I respect everyone's personal choices.
You bring up an interesting point about viewing images.  If it was satisfactory for people to view images on the internet, I don't think anyone would collect.  So given it is not satisfactory, people collect.  Now within the collecting realm, as you point out personal taste comes into play but also economics.  I had a super minty mint diecut set with Ratz and Cracked that I sold for 5 figures long ago and in hindsite, I probably got too little as I suspect the Ratz and Cracked I sold are the highest grades out there.  There is no way I can rationalize owning a 5 figure valued set when I can own punched versions of all the cards for a small fraction of the cost.  That difference in $ could be used 100 other ways in my life.  Same holds true for wacky ads although we aren't talking about thousands of $ difference.

Owning the cut doubles is definitely less satisfactory than having them uncut as the pairs of wackys is very cool but again, rationalizing spending over $100 per paired double doesn't make economic sense to me.  I would much rather own other cool oddball wackys such as vintage t shirts with the money saved in other areas.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2017, 01:39:22 PM »
You bring up an interesting point about viewing images.  If it was satisfactory for people to view images on the internet, I don't think anyone would collect.  So given it is not satisfactory, people collect.

As I've gotten older, I've come to the realization that collecting is a way of thinking more than anything else -- the adrenaline rush in the quest to acquire every one of something.  That's how it started with buying and opening packs as a kid with allowances or money made from chores or returning bottles for deposit then trading with our friends.  Most collectors will do almost anything -- like a crack addict -- to complete the set (even buying Topps Now cards at $9.99 a pop).  Those are the true collectors who go on for years.  The ones who only collect for value or only buy what they like tend to be the ones who move on to other things.

I only remember getting one complete set as a kid.  I got the entire 6th series because my middle sister walked with me to the store many times in one day until I got them all.  It's the fondest memory I have of her.  I'm still collecting after 43+ years.  In all those years I've collected sports cards, Instant Replay records, table tennis balls (weird huh?), die cast cars, Swatch watches, and now artwork.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2017, 10:46:42 PM »
As I've gotten older, I've come to the realization that collecting is a way of thinking more than anything else -- the adrenaline rush in the quest to acquire every one of something.  That's how it started with buying and opening packs as a kid with allowances or money made from chores or returning bottles for deposit then trading with our friends.  Most collectors will do almost anything -- like a crack addict -- to complete the set (even buying Topps Now cards at $9.99 a pop).  Those are the true collectors who go on for years.  The ones who only collect for value or only buy what they like tend to be the ones who move on to other things.

I only remember getting one complete set as a kid.  I got the entire 6th series because my middle sister walked with me to the store many times in one day until I got them all.  It's the fondest memory I have of her.  I'm still collecting after 43+ years.  In all those years I've collected sports cards, Instant Replay records, table tennis balls (weird huh?), die cast cars, Swatch watches, and now artwork.
Table tennis balls?  Didn't know there was that much variety to make them collectible.  I was a very good player years ago not playing regularly for 20 years killed my game.  It is NOT like riding a bike, you do forget how to play.
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2017, 06:28:27 AM »
Table tennis balls?  Didn't know there was that much variety to make them collectible.  I was a very good player years ago not playing regularly for 20 years killed my game.  It is NOT like riding a bike, you do forget how to play.

I played a lot in tournaments from NC to MD while in college.  I used to try and find a box of all the various ITTF or USTTF approved balls.  I have about 40 different ones, and now there are even more since they changed the size from 38mm diameter to 40mm diameter to slow down the game.  Just do an ebay search for ITTF table tennis balls, and you'll see most of them.

 

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