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Offline NationalSpittoon

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #245 on: October 12, 2016, 03:54:33 AM »
It's one sentence.  "Rats enjoy these crackers"  Not  "RATS.  Enjoy these crackers."

Sorry, fixed.

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #246 on: October 12, 2016, 03:57:25 AM »
Diecuts #33 - Grave Train

Grave Train
Dog Food
Your dog will never eat anything else...


Real Product
Gravy Train
Dog Food


I've always loved the art on this card.

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #247 on: October 12, 2016, 04:26:09 AM »
It's one sentence.  "Rats enjoy these crackers"  Not  "RATS.  Enjoy these crackers."

That's how I read it, which makes it a good gag for me.

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #248 on: October 12, 2016, 05:32:24 AM »
Diecuts #33 - Grave Train

Grave Train
Dog Food
Your dog will never eat anything else...


Real Product
Gravy Train
Dog Food


I've always loved the art on this card.

Nice parody of the product name. Great art. I suspect there is a better packaging match than the one I show below.




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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #249 on: October 12, 2016, 09:06:50 AM »
Nice parody of the product name. Great art. I suspect there is a better packaging match than the one I show below.





I searched extensively through vintage Gravy Train ads and packaging, and I don't think a brown box exists.

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #250 on: October 13, 2016, 02:10:21 AM »
Diecuts #34 - Duzn't

Duzn't Do Nuthin'
Laundry Detergent
Approved by beatnicks everywhere


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Duz
Laundry Detergent

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #251 on: October 13, 2016, 03:29:49 AM »
Diecuts #34 - Duzn't

Duzn't Do Nuthin'
Laundry Detergent
Approved by beatnicks everywhere


Real Product
Duz
Laundry Detergent



Never really one I liked. Not quite sure why. Its got a pretty good parody of the title. The artwork is solid.





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« Reply #252 on: October 13, 2016, 04:16:33 AM »

Never really one I liked. Not quite sure why. Its got a pretty good parody of the title. The artwork is solid.






Agreed, it's a good parody of the title, and the artwork is well done.  I think this was never one of my favorites because I didn't understand dishwashing detergent being used in a bathtub.

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« Reply #253 on: October 13, 2016, 08:27:42 AM »
Definitely a favorite of mine, again due more to the color scheme and character than the gag. I never realized the yellow pastel background was flowers until looking at the original product just now.

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« Reply #254 on: October 13, 2016, 10:35:24 AM »
Agreed, it's a good parody of the title, and the artwork is well done.  I think this was never one of my favorites because I didn't understand dishwashing detergent being used in a bathtub.
This one duzn't do nuthin for me

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« Reply #255 on: October 13, 2016, 10:42:08 AM »
I searched extensively through vintage Gravy Train ads and packaging, and I don't think a brown box exists.
I think the product packaging evolved into brown coloring without the stripped food bowl so this is perhaps a combination?

Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #256 on: October 13, 2016, 06:07:41 PM »
This one duzn't do nuthin for me
so it duz do sumpthin', then?

one of those double negatives that kind of works on a Wacky?

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« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2016, 02:24:48 AM »
Diecuts #35 - Fink

Canada Wet
Fink
The Sassy Grapefruit Drink


Real Product
Canada Dry
Wink
Grapefruit Beverage


I don't get this one.

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« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2016, 03:37:48 AM »
What don't you get? Fink was a popular term at the time. I never heard of the real product as a kid, but as usual that didn't matter to me.

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« Reply #259 on: October 14, 2016, 06:59:35 AM »
What don't you get? Fink was a popular term at the time. I never heard of the real product as a kid, but as usual that didn't matter to me.
The artwork is lame, weak Saunders at best, probably one of the titles that Saunders touched up trying to save a flat piece of art.  The right pinkie sticking out like a thumb irks me, it just looks drawn improperly.

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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #260 on: October 14, 2016, 07:04:26 AM »
Diecuts #35 - Fink

Canada Wet
Fink
The Sassy Grapefruit Drink


Real Product
Canada Dry
Wink
Grapefruit Beverage


I don't get this one.

A product I had heard of back in the day, but seemed exotic and adult. Yeach! I think a name like BLINK would have been more appropriate with the grapefruit squirting in the eye  gag with the company name Canada Pry. Always liked the pic, but didn't seem to fit in with the FINK title. Maybe if you knew this guy personally, you would agree he was a fink.





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« Reply #261 on: October 14, 2016, 07:21:21 AM »
I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions. The pinky does look odd, never noticed that before.
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« Reply #262 on: October 14, 2016, 08:39:30 AM »
I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions. The pinky does look odd, never noticed that before.

Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.

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« Reply #263 on: October 14, 2016, 09:55:34 AM »
A product I had heard of back in the day, but seemed exotic and adult. Yeach! I think a name like BLINK would have been more appropriate with the grapefruit squirting in the eye  gag with the company name Canada Pry. Always liked the pic, but didn't seem to fit in with the FINK title. Maybe if you knew this guy personally, you would agree he was a fink.






I wonder why the yellow bar is straight on the parody art and not "bowing" like the bar on the actual can. The green is also brighter than the actual can. Also interesting how packaging artwork was foreshortened during the vintage days to best fit on the trading card without a lot of white space. Today, ANS suffers from too much white space on the card.
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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #264 on: October 14, 2016, 12:08:34 PM »
I wonder why the yellow bar is straight on the parody art and not "bowing" like the bar on the actual can. The green is also brighter than the actual can. Also interesting how packaging artwork was foreshortened during the vintage days to best fit on the trading card without a lot of white space. Today, ANS suffers from too much white space on the card.
The 3-D rendering on this is awful hence no bow on the bar, the awful pinkie.  I don't believe Saunders suddenly got better in the middle and later series wackys in which many pieces are far superior in art quality.  I believe Saunders did touch all wackys, some he did almost everything, others he touched up the work of other artists to try to add rendering and such.

I believe "saunders touched all series 1 wackys" somehow got converted into "Saunders DID all of the Series 1 wackys".

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« Reply #265 on: October 14, 2016, 12:09:33 PM »
Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.
That would be worse as the spoon handle wouldn't align with the rest of the spoon  :D

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« Reply #266 on: October 14, 2016, 01:16:41 PM »
The 3-D rendering on this is awful hence no bow on the bar, the awful pinkie.  I don't believe Saunders suddenly got better in the middle and later series wackys in which many pieces are far superior in art quality.  I believe Saunders did touch all wackys, some he did almost everything, others he touched up the work of other artists to try to add rendering and such.

I believe "saunders touched all series 1 wackys" somehow got converted into "Saunders DID all of the Series 1 wackys".

Again, interesting theory, but David Saunders has stated that Norm painted all the die cuts. He has stated that definitively several times, so unless he adds a note of uncertainty, I will assume Norm painted everything in Series 1.

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« Reply #267 on: October 14, 2016, 02:05:57 PM »
Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.
Me, too, Pat. Now that I look at it more closely, I'm quite certain it is. A pinkie wouldn't have a hole thru it near one end, like a large spoon might.

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« Reply #268 on: October 14, 2016, 02:13:12 PM »
Could it be Fink is holding his spoon in a "sassy" manner?
Like some people sip from a tea cup?

(I think it looks like a pinkie, since it's flesh color and quite different than the spoon)


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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #269 on: October 14, 2016, 02:40:48 PM »
That's the same way I interpreted it. Fink always worked well enough for me. Probably a first series mid-range gag.

The character is expressive, and looking at the high-quality blowup, the can and label look fantastic!


I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions.

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« Reply #270 on: October 14, 2016, 03:20:49 PM »
All this fuss about the pinky/spoon... but just look at the top of that can!  Pure artistry.
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« Reply #271 on: October 14, 2016, 03:23:05 PM »
Wow! What a difference. The original art has a deeper green color with nice shadowing. When the stickers were printed, they must have toned down the black quite a bit on press.
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« Reply #272 on: October 14, 2016, 03:50:11 PM »
Wow! What a difference. The original art has a deeper green color with nice shadowing. When the stickers were printed, they must have toned down the black quite a bit on press.

The Fink art does look great, but the sticker image Scot used is very washed out. It should look more like a Kelly Green....


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« Reply #273 on: October 14, 2016, 03:56:53 PM »
I like Fink and Breadcrust because they were two of only three First Series stickers I saw as a kid (the third was Skimpy).  Wink was also the first soda I remember liking, when I was three or four years old, so I recognized the product immediately.

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« Reply #274 on: October 14, 2016, 04:14:44 PM »
No sign of Wink in Brooklyn. Never heard of it at all.

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« Reply #275 on: October 14, 2016, 05:45:51 PM »
Me, too, Pat. Now that I look at it more closely, I'm quite certain it is. A pinkie wouldn't have a hole thru it near one end, like a large spoon might.
I though that was a poorly executed finger nail.
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« Reply #276 on: October 14, 2016, 08:30:19 PM »
No sign of Wink in Brooklyn. Never heard of it at all.

I  don't think a lot of people did.  Though it was readily available in the Panama Canal Zone in the late '60's.
It's funny how some 1st Series products are as obscure as some of those in the later series.

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« Reply #277 on: October 14, 2016, 08:33:38 PM »
Wink was alive and well in North East PA as a kid, it was Squirt's rival.


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Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
« Reply #278 on: October 15, 2016, 02:03:34 AM »
Diecuts #36 - Maddie Boy

Maddie Boy
Dog Food
100% Condemned Beef
Get rid of your dog fast


Real Product
Laddie Boy
Chicken Dog Food


What does "Maddie" make the product? If anything, "Oddie" Boy would've been better for the normal card if you ask me.

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« Reply #279 on: October 15, 2016, 02:44:14 AM »
"Maddie," as in a mad dog.  I remember the TV ads for the original product-I think this one tends to get shortchanged just for being the most common of the Series 1's.