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Offline Rabanv

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A small question about Ratz
« on: August 18, 2016, 06:18:39 PM »
I am amazed at how on Ebay there are 3 unpunched Cracked animals die cuts for sale where there has not been anything for Ratz for a awhile now.I wonder why Ratz is much harder to find than Cracked animals.Both cards were discontinued within a short period of time where there were probably anywhere between 150 to 200 hundred cards.Would anyone have the answer to why Ratz seems to be more scarce?

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2016, 06:47:52 PM »
It's not. It's just a coincidence. Ratz will be back...

Offline Rabanv

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2016, 06:53:00 PM »
To Koduck,Thanks for the encouraging reply.

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2016, 07:46:39 PM »
I am amazed at how on Ebay there are 3 unpunched Cracked animals die cuts for sale where there has not been anything for Ratz for a awhile now.I wonder why Ratz is much harder to find than Cracked animals.Both cards were discontinued within a short period of time where there were probably anywhere between 150 to 200 hundred cards.Would anyone have the answer to why Ratz seems to be more scarce?
I have 199 of the punched Ratz and I am not selling them hence so few on ebay.
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Offline Rabanv

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2016, 06:39:59 PM »
To Bandaches,That is amazing that you have 199 of the punched Ratz die cuts from 1967.Apparently I was greatly wrong about the amount of Ratz and Cracked Animals die cuts that were printed back in 1967.Out curiosity,how many of hose die cuts do you actually think might have been printed back than before Topps was forced to discontinue printing them?

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 07:25:53 PM »
To Bandaches,That is amazing that you have 199 of the punched Ratz die cuts from 1967.Apparently I was greatly wrong about the amount of Ratz and Cracked Animals die cuts that were printed back in 1967.Out curiosity,how many of hose die cuts do you actually think might have been printed back than before Topps was forced to discontinue printing them?
I was kidding.  You are asking questions that really don't have answers.  Your statistical analysis has sample sizes that are far too small for you to draw any conclusions hence your follow up questions on your conclusions are difficult to answer.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 04:37:00 AM by bandaches »
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Offline Rabanv

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2016, 06:25:27 PM »
To Bandaches,(Heh-Heh)I had a slight funny  feeling that you were putting me on about having 199 punched Ratz die cuts.I do admit my questions were very deep with difficult answers to find but my reason for asking them is because I thought you guys being long time Wacky sticker collectors would have answers for me but what I now have learned is that  there are some answers  we will never find in the history of Topps wacky stickers.Thanks for setting me straight on that one.

Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2016, 06:56:25 PM »
It's not that there are no answers, the question is flawed. You're assuming Ratz is less common based on some Crackeds showing up during a very limited time period. But just as many Ratz are out there, they just haven't been offered lately.

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2016, 07:06:38 PM »
Although, I just checked the PSA population report and the results are interesting. Only 25 Ratz have been graded, yet there are 7 graded 8 or higher. With Cracked, 39 total are graded, but there are none graded 8 or higher. A lot more 5s and 6s for Cracked than Ratz for some reason.

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2016, 08:51:45 PM »
Although, I just checked the PSA population report and the results are interesting. Only 25 Ratz have been graded, yet there are 7 graded 8 or higher. With Cracked, 39 total are graded, but there are none graded 8 or higher. A lot more 5s and 6s for Cracked than Ratz for some reason.
Do Crackeds have centering issues causing them to be PSA7 and lower?  Perhaps they actually need to be miscut like 8 lives in order to get a high PSA grade?
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Offline Paul_Maul

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2016, 09:12:02 PM »
Do Crackeds have centering issues causing them to be PSA7 and lower?  Perhaps they actually need to be miscut like 8 lives in order to get a high PSA grade?

Yes, I'm not sure why, but it seems like all landscape oriented cards are more likely to be OC, so that's probably the reason. The '71 Munson is another example of that. Strange that there are that many more Crackeds graded though.

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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2016, 09:19:57 PM »
Yes, I'm not sure why, but it seems like all landscape oriented cards are more likely to be OC, so that's probably the reason. The '71 Munson is another example of that. Strange that there are that many more Crackeds graded though.
I am noticing 1968 rookie cards get high PSA grades when the front is centered as opposed to the back.  There is a box around the stats on the rookie card backs that can be perfectly centered but then the front is not centered. I wonder which is the true correct centering for these based on the sheet layout. I can't find any uncut 1968 uncut sheet backs scans to check this out.
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Re: A small question about Ratz
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2016, 04:26:05 AM »
I am noticing 1968 rookie cards get high PSA grades when the front is centered as opposed to the back.  There is a box around the stats on the rookie card backs that can be perfectly centered but then the front is not centered. I wonder which is the true correct centering for these based on the sheet layout. I can't find any uncut 1968 uncut sheet backs scans to check this out.

To get a PSA 9, back centering only has to be 90/10, while front has to be 60/40. For some cards it's impossible for both front & back to be centered because the back text is shifted relative to the front. 1973 baseball has a big problem with back centering., especially card #1.

 

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