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Offline slamjim

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2018, 02:26:00 PM »
Didn't even notice this was never released before:



Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2018, 08:50:10 PM »
Didn't even notice this was never released before:


Yes, it was one of two Wackys meant for the Wacky Packages Go to the Movies subset in ANS8 (the other one was Ironed Man) that were originally never released in that subset. As for Ironed Man finally being released and finishing the job, since Disney owns Marvel, I don't think that'll be happening anytime soon, if at all.
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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2018, 06:25:19 AM »
Yes, it was one of two Wackys meant for the Wacky Packages Go to the Movies subset in ANS8 (the other one was Ironed Man) that were originally never released in that subset. As for Ironed Man finally being released and finishing the job, since Disney owns Marvel, I don't think that'll be happening anytime soon, if at all.
It was already used on one of the Philly show Promo cards 6 years ago.


Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2018, 01:29:23 PM »
It was already used on one of the Philly show Promo cards 6 years ago.

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Oh, I already knew about that one; I meant as an actual sticker in an actual series. I'm sorry that I wasn't too clear about that.

Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2020, 06:39:07 PM »
Well, now that we've had more than a few years to think it over, what does everyone think of a third Abrams Wacky Packages book now?

Offline MoldRush

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2020, 08:53:33 PM »
I would put chances at slim to none.  After Series 15-16, you still have 5/7 of the book to fill with other material, which I guess the publisher couldnít be bothered trying to figure out.  Plus itís been what, 8 or 9 years since the initial books came out?  The time to do ia 3rd and final one would have been back then.

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2020, 09:04:57 PM »
I would put chances at slim to none.  After Series 15-16, you still have 5/7 of the book to fill with other material, which I guess the publisher couldnít be bothered trying to figure out.  Plus itís been what, 8 or 9 years since the initial books came out?  The time to do ia 3rd and final one would have been back then.
The contents for this book are listed on the OP, btw.

Even so, do you still think that wouldn't be enough to fill such a book?
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Offline MoldRush

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2020, 10:59:55 PM »
The contents for this book are listed on the OP, btw.

Even so, do you still think that wouldn't be enough to fill such a book?
What are you saying, a 3rd edition is in the works or was at some point?  I was not aware.  What is the OP?  You lost me there.

I gave my take on the situation early in the thread.  Just my thoughts at the time, who knows what they were thinking going 7 series per volume instead of 8, and whether a 3rd volume was ever in their plans.  If a kickstarter campaign could get it done, Iíd be all for it.  In any case, the two volumes are still worthwhile for all the high-resolution scans they did manage to get.  Makes you feel like you have the next best thing to original art for those titles.
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Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2020, 09:23:10 AM »
What are you saying, a 3rd edition is in the works or was at some point?  I was not aware.  What is the OP?  You lost me there.

I gave my take on the situation early in the thread.  Just my thoughts at the time, who knows what they were thinking going 7 series per volume instead of 8, and whether a 3rd volume was ever in their plans.  If a kickstarter campaign could get it done, Iíd be all for it.  In any case, the two volumes are still worthwhile for all the high-resolution scans they did manage to get.  Makes you feel like you have the next best thing to original art for those titles.
OP is the original post at the beginning of all this. I was just wondering if the content that was listed there was enough content needed to make a third volume if one was made.

I have first printing copies of the first two books and you're right; they are excellent! However, the first book has 11 anomalies in it, one of which I found and reported to Greg Grant; they're on his website www.wackypackages.org if you want to see what they are (they're listed in the section of the first of the two books).

Sorry if I wasn't too clear about what I was saying; that seems to be a problem here sometimes.
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Offline MoldRush

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2020, 10:37:35 AM »
No worries, I guess what I was really thinking was that with the passing of a couple more years (thread was initiated in 2018), the prospects of a third book would only be further diminished.

That being said, although I havenít checked how recently their other books were released, the separate books on other non-sports series like Bazooka Joe, Star Wars, Planet of the Apes, GPK, etc would suggest that Abrams is still in the game and these types of books are still worthwhile releases, so why the heck not with the third Wacky book?  But aside from having the high-res scans of the 15th and 16th titles, most of the rest of what you suggested can be found in the Wacky Packages Gallery by Paul Argyropoulos.  Still couldnít hurt to replicate it in a new hardcover, for the recent arrivals to Wacky-dom who may have a hard time getting a copy of the Gallery.  Iím pretty sure Paul had a sizable surplus of unsold copies which he was listing on eBay for quite a while ($20 a pop I think), but I havenít checked for them in a long time.

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2020, 05:35:49 PM »
Well, now that we've had more than a few years to think it over, what does everyone think of a third Abrams Wacky Packages book now?

I'd love to see one, but would think the chances are close to zero.  Not sure what else they would include and, after such a long layoff, I would simply think it's not on Abrams' agenda.  Too bad 15-16 weren't included the first time around, but I doubt we'll see those two series in such a book.

Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2020, 05:39:27 PM »
I'd love to see one, but would think the chances are close to zero.  Not sure what else they would include and, after such a long layoff, I would simply think it's not on Abrams' agenda.  Too bad 15-16 weren't included the first time around, but I doubt we'll see those two series in such a book.
If you'd like to know what I think they could include, take a look at the original post (see, I've learned my lesson, lol).
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Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2020, 05:52:33 PM »
No worries, I guess what I was really thinking was that with the passing of a couple more years (thread was initiated in 2018), the prospects of a third book would only be further diminished.

That being said, although I havenít checked how recently their other books were released, the separate books on other non-sports series like Bazooka Joe, Star Wars, Planet of the Apes, GPK, etc would suggest that Abrams is still in the game and these types of books are still worthwhile releases, so why the heck not with the third Wacky book?  But aside from having the high-res scans of the 15th and 16th titles, most of the rest of what you suggested can be found in the Wacky Packages Gallery by Paul Argyropoulos.  Still couldnít hurt to replicate it in a new hardcover, for the recent arrivals to Wacky-dom who may have a hard time getting a copy of the Gallery.  Iím pretty sure Paul had a sizable surplus of unsold copies which he was listing on eBay for quite a while ($20 a pop I think), but I havenít checked for them in a long time.
I know what you mean; not only have they done the two Wacky Packages books, they've also done one book each on Garbage Pail Kids, Mars Attacks (for its 50th anniversary), Bazooka Joe and his Gang, Planet of the Apes (all three Topps series from 1969, 1975 and 2001), Star Trek (the Topps series from 1976), and (are you ready for this?) five Star Wars books at this time: Star Wars (Volume 1 of 3), The Empire Strikes Back (Volume 2 of 3), Return of the Jedi (Volume 3 of 3), Star Wars Galaxy (the first three of the eight series of this line Topps has done as of 2018 (Abrams has yet to release a second book containing the next five series)) and Star Wars Widevision (all the other mainstream storyline films except Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi, Solo: A Star Wars Story and Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker have had Widevision series as well (in fact, the one for Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith also had a 3D Widevision series and the one for Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens was just a 3D Widevision series, as far as I know), so I'm presuming that Abrams'll get around to doing Widevision series books for these films too, if I'm not mistaken). All of these books each have four bonus cards included that have never been released before and are both attached to their inside back covers in such a way that they can be removed without running the risk of damaging the book and wrapped in cellophane to keep them safe.

The four books I've got (the two WP books, the MA book and the PotA book) are first printings and of excellent quality. I also had a second printing copy of the first WP book once, but only got it for the bonus cards (I didn't keep it because only one of the 11 anomalies mentioned in Reply #43 was fixed (I don't remember how good or bad the fixing was, can anyone show me here?) and the other 10 weren't, so I saw no reason to keep it).

Oh, btw, in case you or anyone else here wants to know, I checked Abrams' website and all five Star Wars books are still listed as being available (although I don't know what printings they all are; by now the numbers could be anything).

I also looked up the book you mentioned, The Wacky Packages Gallery, on eBay and nothing's listed there as of now. It is, however, available on Amazon for $52.99 (before shipping). I didn't know it was released in 2000!
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Offline Swiski

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2020, 05:05:24 AM »
Maybe instead of a third book, Abrams could publish one new book that covers the complete 16 series. It would need to be a larger sized book that showcases four titles on a page instead of one, and the horizontal parodies should run vertically to match the vertical parodies. I hated how they reduced the size of those for the convenience of the reader in the current Abrams books.

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2020, 05:29:42 PM »
Maybe instead of a third book, Abrams could publish one new book that covers the complete 16 series. It would need to be a larger sized book that showcases four titles on a page instead of one, and the horizontal parodies should run vertically to match the vertical parodies. I hated how they reduced the size of those for the convenience of the reader in the current Abrams books.
I think that's a great idea! To be complete, though, it should also include the 44 Die-Cuts (maybe not the number variations, however) and the 36 Wacky Ads.

Did they really reduce the size of the horizontal stickers, though? I didn't know that. Do you know if they also did the same thing in the other books they released; say, like the one for Mars Attacks? That series definitely had more than a few horizontals in it.
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Offline Swiski

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2020, 07:38:26 PM »
I think that's a great idea! To be complete, though, it should also include the 44 Die-Cuts (maybe not the number variations, however) and the 36 Wacky Ads.

Did they really reduce the size of the horizontal stickers, though? I didn't know that. Do you know if they also did the same thing in the other books they released; say, like the one for Mars Attacks? That series definitely had more than a few horizontals in it.

I'm not sure about the Mars Attacks books, but the Wacky Packages books has the horizontal parodies rotated 90 degrees so the artwork is right-reading to match the vertical parodies. So yes, they unfortunately made the artwork for those smaller.  :sad:

I agree...a new book should contain the die-cuts, Wacky Ads and maybe even the Wacky Posters. Might be a hard feat to pull off nowadays. I still would love to hear from Abrams and the writer why they stopped at 14 series. Maybe they couldn't get quality artwork of the 15th and 16th titles.
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Offline mikecho

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Re: The third Abrams Wacky Packages book
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2020, 08:37:05 PM »
I'm not sure about the Mars Attacks books, but the Wacky Packages books has the horizontal parodies rotated 90 degrees so the artwork is right-reading to match the vertical parodies. So yes, they unfortunately made the artwork for those smaller.  :sad:

I agree...a new book should contain the die-cuts, Wacky Ads and maybe even the Wacky Posters. Might be a hard feat to pull off nowadays. I still would love to hear from Abrams and the writer why they stopped at 14 series. Maybe they couldn't get quality artwork of the 15th and 16th titles.
I completely forgot all about the Posters, to tell you the truth. Never even occurred to me to include them.

Do you think it should also include the Wacky Packages Tattoos, Wacky Patches and Iron-Ons as well?
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