Author Topic: 2015 series one (Read 118997 times)

Fanatical_and_Sickly · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:42:59 AM »

That video on the GTS site is very disturbing

dth1971 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2015, 05:47:38 AM »

Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 02, 2015, 09:00:45 PM

the marketing flyer has finally shown up.
http://allsportsmarketing.net/featured-home/adobe/WP15s1_Product_Release_Sales_Plan_FINAL_HOBBY_ONLY.pdf

somehow I missed that this is a true 110 card base set
I can only hope there aren't alternate backings for each as well....

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I wonder: Was there ever a marketing flyer for the never released Wacky Packages Star Wars series?

And wouldn't the Wacky Packages Batty Baseball subset entries also be perfect to be in random packs of Topps 2015 Baseball cards?

koduck · « **Reply #37 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:33:10 AM »

Quote from: RawGoo on March 02, 2015, 04:50:31 PM

Absolutely, Norm Saunders set the bar high. I rarely post negative stuff about new art since I don't want to offend the artist, but at some point we have to speak up, or possibly watch the demise of the Wackys we so enjoy. I'm hopeful that this criticism will be accepted in a way that results in better Wackys, and a longer life for the series.

Couldn't have said it better Pat!

Hustler08 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:55:25 AM »

Quote from: dth1971 on March 03, 2015, 05:47:38 AM

I wonder: Was there ever a marketing flyer for the never released Wacky Packages Star Wars series?

And wouldn't the Wacky Packages Batty Baseball subset entries also be perfect to be in random packs of Topps 2015 Baseball cards?

There was a flyer released...but it was 'CANCELLED'and yes on the second one...

Hustler08 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:56:58 AM »

Quote from: koduck on March 03, 2015, 07:33:10 AM

Couldn't have said it better Pat!

Neil,

Can you find out who the SKETCH artists were on 2015 WP Series 1 - and were you one of them ? maybe David can?

slamjim · « **Reply #40 on:** March 03, 2015, 09:01:47 AM »

Quote from: chickenfat2010 on March 01, 2015, 09:44:40 PM

I'm pretty sure Slip 'n Slice is David Gross art

Not mine. I did Catburglar Helper, Lalaloopy and Behead & Shoulders for that series.

Also, just a correction: JungHwa Im is female.

slamjim · « **Reply #41 on:** March 03, 2015, 09:23:00 AM »

Quote from: Hustler08 on March 03, 2015, 07:56:58 AM

Neil,

Can you find out who the SKETCH artists were on 2015 WP Series 1 - and were you one of them ? maybe David can?

I don't have any kind of list but I am doing sketch cards.

Hustler08 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 03, 2015, 12:33:44 PM »

Quote from: slamjim on March 03, 2015, 09:23:00 AM

I don't have any kind of list but I am doing sketch cards.

Thx Dave !! Great to hear - maybe you can do all of them?? 😛😛😛
Do you know of any artists also involved like Brent or George or smokin joe??

koduck · « **Reply #43 on:** March 03, 2015, 01:59:17 PM »

Should be most of the usual gang...

Joe G. · « **Reply #44 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:15:24 PM »

Patrick, thanks a ton for posting the sell sheet. With 131 new Wacky gags, some new unique chase items and only 3 months away, sounds pretty good to me.

Here is an interesting tidbit from the sell sheet. It would be great if Topps reached out to kids and I wouldn't mind seeing Wackys promoted at local Hobby stores.
•
Sampling
–
Exploring targeted sampling program at key hobby stores to provide
samples directly to kids
•
Timing: Q2 2015

DrDeal · « **Reply #45 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:21:25 PM »

Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 28, 2015, 09:05:59 AM

you should check out the Master Lists for the past 3 series and compare the cards to the artists listed. It's a fun study and you can really start to see the style and characteristics that each of the artists bring to the sets.

To me though, to go back to my earlier statement, I feel that JungHwa Im is single-handedly destroying the Wacky brand. If there were only a handful of pieces per series I wouldn't be on a rant, but JungHwa Im did almost 50% of the base set for both 2014 (21 pieces) and ANS 11 (19 pieces), and I find most of them unfit for inclusion in the sets.
The art consistently lacks precision and any sense of realism. Perspective is usually poor, the lettering is never crisp, the characters are typically simple 2-dimensional cartoonish figures, and cylindrical objects are consistently out-of-round and just awful in their execution.
Chock Full o' Newts is a prime example of everything I mention above - looks like a color rough and not finished art.
I don't know if it's actually a JungHwa Im piece, but it certainly has all the traits.
Perspective?, characters? and cylindrical shape? - poor, poor, poor. Look at that can lid!! I cringe at its ineptness.

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Maybe Topps likes the fact that Mr Im's art style is "cartoonish" and feels that will appeal to kids?

Maybe there is some method to what Mr Im is doing?

Fanatical_and_Sickly · « **Reply #46 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:41:44 PM »

Quote from: DrDeal on March 03, 2015, 04:21:25 PM

Maybe Topps likes the fact that Mr Im's art style is "cartoonish" and feels that will appeal to kids?

Maybe there is some method to what Mr Im is doing?

perhaps. maybe it's more of the adults that desire the realism and high accuracy. Although for me, the non-Saunders art from series 6 and 7 really bugged me as a kid, it was so out of place compared to his work.

p.s. JungHwa Im is a woman.

Slaytex99 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:51:31 PM »

I dislike the flat cartoonish Wackys. To me it tarnishes the Wacky brand which was built with its "pop art" quality paintings for the stickers.

bigtomi · « **Reply #48 on:** March 03, 2015, 07:52:25 PM »

Quote from: Slaytex99 on March 03, 2015, 04:51:31 PM

I dislike the flat cartoonish Wackys. To me it tarnishes the Wacky brand which was built with its "pop art" quality paintings for the stickers.

I agree considerably. One of the memories which always comes back to me whenever I look at the original series stickers/art is that I recall thinking how much the stickers looked like the actual packaging, right down to many details. Yes, it was a simpler time and more difficult to misrecognize a package, but every one of those painted by Norm nailed it. Not so much with today's Wackys. I mean no offense to today's artists, but Norm is a hard act to follow...

Hustler08 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:05:54 AM »

Quote from: DrDeal on March 03, 2015, 04:21:25 PM

Maybe Topps likes the fact that Mr Im's art style is "cartoonish" and feels that will appeal to kids? your reaching dude!!!!

Maybe there is some method to what Mr Im is doing? yea sucking ass!!

dth1971 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:06:39 AM »

Quote from: RawGoo on February 25, 2015, 02:21:57 AM

Romaine was done in Postcard Series 7.

From today's March 4, 2015 Argyle Sweater comic strip. Here's what could be the idea for a future Wacky Packages series that could spoof Rogaine (maybe the 2016 series next year?):

koduck · « **Reply #51 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:36:16 AM »

Quote from: bigtomi on March 03, 2015, 07:52:25 PM

I agree considerably. One of the memories which always comes back to me whenever I look at the original series stickers/art is that I recall thinking how much the stickers looked like the actual packaging, right down to many details. Yes, it was a simpler time and more difficult to misrecognize a package, but every one of those painted by Norm nailed it. Not so much with today's Wackys. I mean no offense to today's artists, but Norm is a hard act to follow...

There's no reason to believe any of us would be posting here today on a Wacky forum, if it weren't for Norm Saunders. He's only the single biggest reason for wacky's success). But...(I love to stir the pot

) I'd like to offer this: if Norm had a weakness in his art, it was horses. Compare his horses to his other animal art and you'll see what I mean (I think). Skunks, dogs, cats, beavers...you name it, he nails it. But compared to these critters, his horses seem to be missing some horsepower. Just saying...

DrDeal · « **Reply #52 on:** March 05, 2015, 03:04:49 AM »

BBtoysstore has pre-orders for retail boxes of WP 2015. I have not seen any pre-orders for Collector boxes yet.

dth1971 · « **Reply #53 on:** March 05, 2015, 06:44:00 AM »

Just saw another Coming Soon entry on the BBToys listing for 2015 Wacky Packages pre-orders.

CaseyRob · « **Reply #54 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:32:05 AM »

Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 28, 2015, 09:05:59 AM

you should check out the Master Lists for the past 3 series and compare the cards to the artists listed. It's a fun study and you can really start to see the style and characteristics that each of the artists bring to the sets.

To me though, to go back to my earlier statement, I feel that JungHwa Im is single-handedly destroying the Wacky brand. If there were only a handful of pieces per series I wouldn't be on a rant, but JungHwa Im did almost 50% of the base set for both 2014 (21 pieces) and ANS 11 (19 pieces), and I find most of them unfit for inclusion in the sets.
The art consistently lacks precision and any sense of realism. Perspective is usually poor, the lettering is never crisp, the characters are typically simple 2-dimensional cartoonish figures, and cylindrical objects are consistently out-of-round and just awful in their execution.
Chock Full o' Newts is a prime example of everything I mention above - looks like a color rough and not finished art.
I don't know if it's actually a JungHwa Im piece, but it certainly has all the traits.
Perspective?, characters? and cylindrical shape? - poor, poor, poor. Look at that can lid!! I cringe at its ineptness.

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm glad to hear that the Wacky community is finally speaking up about how awful Junghwa Im's art is... the GPK forums have been complaining about her work since she started with Topps. I've even sent a long letter to Topps detailing a lot of the same specific complaints about what's wrong with her artwork. I will say that, with GPK, every now and then, she shows some slight improvement...which then seems to disappear with the release of the next series. I hate to be mean and speculate, but I do have to wonder if she just works much cheaper than the other artists. Topps maintains a presence on the GPKUG forum, so they have to know the general feeling towards Im; there has to be some reason Topps keeps buying her work.

Joe G. · « **Reply #55 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:47:02 PM »

Quote from: DrDeal on March 05, 2015, 03:04:49 AM

BBtoysstore has pre-orders for retail boxes of WP 2015. I have not seen any pre-orders for Collector boxes yet.

Andrew, thanks for the info. It seems the series is called 'Topps Wacky Packages - 2015 Stickers Series' and the ad has an image of a Coming Attraction gag. It's kinda small but it looks pretty Smokin' (as in Smokin' Joe)!

DrDeal · « **Reply #56 on:** March 07, 2015, 03:47:08 AM »

DA Cardworld now has Collector Boxes up on presell for $69. That's the first I have seen of them. Shipping is $12 at DA. Does anyone know if there is still a free shipping on Thursday deal somewhere? DA has free shipping if you spend over $200. I want to pre-order two boxes.

Swiski · « **Reply #57 on:** March 10, 2015, 07:53:10 AM »

After reading over the Product Sales Plan PDF, it looks like there are no Lost Wackys or exclusive Collectors Box bonus stickers this time. is that correct?

Fanatical_and_Sickly · « **Reply #58 on:** March 10, 2015, 04:21:38 PM »

Quote from: Swiski on March 10, 2015, 07:53:10 AM

After reading over the Product Sales Plan PDF, it looks like there are no Lost Wackys or exclusive Collectors Box bonus stickers this time. is that correct?

that's what it sounds like.
after 110 base cards and 20 more in the subsets, there's nothing left for Bonus?

dth1971 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 10, 2015, 07:30:26 PM »

Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 10, 2015, 04:21:38 PM

that's what it sounds like.
after 110 base cards and 20 more in the subsets, there's nothing left for Bonus?

20 more in the subsets for the 2015 series? I thought it would be 30 since there will be 3 subsets - Batty Baseball, Coming Soon, and Crazy Collectibles (10 for each, more or less).

RawGoo · « **Reply #60 on:** March 10, 2015, 10:27:46 PM »

Quote from: dth1971 on March 10, 2015, 07:30:26 PM

20 more in the subsets for the 2015 series? I thought it would be 30 since there will be 3 subsets - Batty Baseball, Coming Soon, and Crazy Collectibles (10 for each, more or less).

I hate when they do 10 card subsets! 9 works SOOOOO much better in pages!!

quas · « **Reply #61 on:** March 11, 2015, 05:16:00 AM »

Quote from: RawGoo on March 10, 2015, 10:27:46 PM

I hate when they do 10 card subsets! 9 works SOOOOO much better in pages!!

Agree 100%! Everything in multiples of 9!

Hustler08 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 11, 2015, 06:03:42 AM »

Quote from: quas on March 11, 2015, 05:16:00 AM

Agree 100%! Everything in multiples of 9!

Also: Color Panaramic Sketch Cards - From Neil!!! NICE!!!

Fanatical_and_Sickly · « **Reply #63 on:** March 11, 2015, 03:55:47 PM »

Quote from: dth1971 on March 10, 2015, 07:30:26 PM

20 more in the subsets for the 2015 series? I thought it would be 30 since there will be 3 subsets - Batty Baseball, Coming Soon, and Crazy Collectibles (10 for each, more or less).

the flyer says
10 Batty Baseball
5 Coming Soon
5 Crazy Collectibles

Slaytex99 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 11, 2015, 07:23:41 PM »

Quote from: quas on March 11, 2015, 05:16:00 AM

Agree 100%! Everything in multiples of 9!

It seems so asinine doesn't it??? These people do know about 9 pocket sheets? Right? Bueler?

10 card subsets are utterly stupid and out of touch...WE USE 9 POCKET SHEETS and WE LIKE TO SEE THE SUBSETS ALL ON AN EVEN PAGE BOUNDARY...IF IT IS GOING TO BE 10 MAKE IT 9!!!!!!

sorry for yelling

sometimes I have to shake my head on who is making these decisions..

lucidjc · « **Reply #65 on:** March 11, 2015, 10:50:09 PM »

Quote from: Slaytex99 on March 11, 2015, 07:23:41 PM

sometimes I have to shake my head on who is making these decisions..

a donkey

RawGoo · « **Reply #66 on:** March 12, 2015, 01:10:12 AM »

Quote from: Slaytex99 on March 11, 2015, 07:23:41 PM

It seems so asinine doesn't it??? These people do know about 9 pocket sheets? Right? Bueler?

10 card subsets are utterly stupid and out of touch...WE USE 9 POCKET SHEETS and WE LIKE TO SEE THE SUBSETS ALL ON AN EVEN PAGE BOUNDARY...IF IT IS GOING TO BE 10 MAKE IT 9!!!!!!

sorry for yelling sometimes I have to shake my head on who is making these decisions..

To be fair, I really appreciate them making the puzzle backs work with the 9 pocket pages.

koduck · « **Reply #67 on:** March 12, 2015, 10:34:42 AM »

Quote from: RawGoo on March 12, 2015, 01:10:12 AM

To be fair, I really appreciate them making the puzzle backs work with the 9 pocket pages.

Let's just be thankful they didn't copy Ugly Stickers with it's 12 card puzzle conundrum!

Joe G. · « **Reply #68 on:** March 12, 2015, 10:37:13 AM »

Neil, do you know why 55 and 10 is standard set/insert in Wackys?

koduck · « **Reply #69 on:** March 12, 2015, 10:58:41 AM »

Quote from: Joe G. on March 12, 2015, 10:37:13 AM

Neil, do you know why 55 and 10 is standard set/insert in Wackys?

The short answer is "print sheet size", but Chiperno could probably give us a much more detailed explanation. He's a printer by trade and knows all the nuances.

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Author Topic: 2015 series one (Read 118997 times)

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