Brad..... what are some of the reasons your forum is not setup (the layout) like the other forum? I mean the messages in any thread I am scrolling all of them each time,till I get to something I havn't already read!!! As far as I can tell the up and down only allows one to get to the bottom or top quickly,if you go to the bottom you will most likely being reading someones reply to a post,before you read the post that prompted the reply.