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Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ScaryLee on March 13, 2010, 01:43:55 PM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sealed-box-w-Lynch-sketch_W0QQitemZ310205095823

Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BaudLight on March 13, 2010, 09:31:58 PM
Maybe they are psychic and know that it contains a colored sketch card.   :D

BaudLight
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 13, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sealed-box-w-Lynch-sketch_W0QQitemZ310205095823


I wrote to that seller and asked if his box was any different than the ones Topps was selling and if he knew if Topps had them still for sale and he didn't answer my question.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 13, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
Hey I tried to focus on anything...but came up empty..............oh shake you up greg.....shake it baby now....
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 13, 2010, 10:52:24 PM
Hey I tried to focus on anything...but came up empty..............oh shake you up greg.....shake it baby now....
25 or 6 to 4
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
What i find nuts is how cheap this stuff are going for,the sketch cards besides overshadowing the release really hurt the value of the series in my opinion.If you buy boxes and pull common sketchs all your other cards are not worth the price of crap from what i can see.The sketch cards should have only been available to the pre-orders of maybe 1500 boxes max.It would have put some balance into the release.
Flame on  ::)





Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 11:17:38 AM
What i find nuts is how cheap this stuff are going for,the sketch cards besides overshadowing the release really hurt the value of the series in my opinion.If you buy boxes and pull common sketchs all your other cards are not worth the price of crap from what i can see.The sketch cards should have only been available to the pre-orders of maybe 1500 boxes max.It would have put some balance into the release.
Flame on  ::)






With a box containing 2 full sets and extras for $40 or $50, I never assumed the sets would have huge value, how did you come to that conclusion and why is it important that the set be "worth" high $?  I felt it was important that they set be of quality, which it was.  I felt it important that we get value for our $, which we did since we get an awesome 5 x 7 trio, 2 complete base sets, a pile of extra stickers, a pile of checklists, logo card, promo card and sketch.  Just break it down, $10 per base set, $10 per trio set, a couple of bucks for the logo and promo cards...hell, the sketch costs us under $20...what's there to complain about?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
said this berfore,, being from canada and paying crazy high cost of shipping and ups fee's and then getting stiffed on the free poster i now have over $200 into 3 boxes,sure a rare card of jay's would have made it all worth while but we all can't pull a rabbit outa our ass,but a set of limited run cards should not drop below $20 IMO,,,selling them for $7 w/ puzzle is a crime  :o
next round i'll be buying a single set w/ puzzle for $10 and calling it a day,the bonus extra sh!t don't really do for me anyway



Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 11:35:47 AM
said this berfore,, being from canada and paying crazy high cost of shipping and ups fee's and then getting stiffed on the free poster i now have over $200 into 3 boxes,sure a rare card of jay's would have made it all worth while but we all can't pull a rabbit outa our ass,but a set of limited run cards should not drop below $20 IMO,,,selling them for $7 w/ puzzle is a crime  :o
next round i'll be buying a single set w/ puzzle for $10 and calling it a day,the bonus extra Snucker don't really do for me anyway




Ok, I understand your frustration, I though you were talking about normal set of events with standard costs, standard shipping and getting your poster.  You are speaking to your set of circumstances.  You really don't like the 5x7s?  The set, 5x7's and sketch is all I needed, everything else were throw ins for me.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 14, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers. 

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing. 

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers.  

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing.  

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long.  

ya i tend to agree on all of that,you said alot of what i had in mind
i'm not out to make money but i don't wanna grow old with extra sets and/or lose money

don't get me wrong i like the 5x7's and i did get a complete set with my 3 boxes,, and i do love the new series and have said many positive remarks on it.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 14, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
ya i tend to agree on all of that,you said alot of what i had in mind
i'm not out to make money but i don't wanna grow old with extra sets and/or lose money

don't get me wrong i like the 5x7's and i did get a complete set with my 3 boxes,, and i do love the new series and have said many positive remarks on it.


I don't wanna grow old... period.   ???
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers. 

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing. 

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long. 
there is always something special about first series.  ANS1 will always be my favorite.  I am unfamiliar with the ANS market but I assume ANS1 prices are pretty decent.  This Old School series will be special to me more so than next releases even if the next releases somehow blow this away.  Just something very nostalgic about it already.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on March 14, 2010, 02:29:00 PM
there is always something special about first series.  ANS1 will always be my favorite.  I am unfamiliar with the ANS market but I assume ANS1 prices are pretty decent.  This Old School series will be special to me more so than next releases even if the next releases somehow blow this away.  Just something very nostalgic about it already.
I totaly agree on both points! ANS 1 is deffintly my favorite of the ANS, but "Canibals" (Shrunken Noodle Soup) is my favorite ANS title...Hillarious!!!
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: slayskool on March 20, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sketch-Card-colored-PUPSI_W0QQitemZ370351951871QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563ab24fff#ht_500wt_1182

AND MY RESPONSE.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UY2K1F5AQ
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Crakola Crayons on March 20, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
And Whitney would certainly know.  LOL.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plan 9 on March 23, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 23, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8

it says low .99 start bid in the description but the starting bid is $9.99?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 23, 2010, 09:06:53 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8
how can you go wrong when additional shipping is less than a penny? I'm tempted to win multiple auctions just to hold him to his word on that.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Dr Popper on March 24, 2010, 03:57:05 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8

I saw that too.  I emailed the person and asked them if they were aware of it.  I'm not sure how you could list the same auction 26 times by accident. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 27, 2010, 06:26:08 AM
I saw that too.  I emailed the person and asked them if they were aware of it.  I'm not sure how you could list the same auction 26 times by accident. 
looks like most of the auctions were changed to other items, but still a few "ajerks" on there.
and additional postage is still a steal at .99 cents.
I guess he is like Verizon, and doesn't understand that .99 cents ≠ .99 dollars
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 27, 2010, 06:28:33 AM
a first series wrapper with a low starting bid of just $9.50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on March 27, 2010, 10:56:43 AM
a first series wrapper with a low starting bid of just $9.50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956)

I'm surprised that the description didn't say it was red!
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on March 27, 2010, 12:30:19 PM
I'm surprised that the description didn't say it was red!
Do theese people have a clue? :^)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 06, 2010, 09:59:31 AM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?
that one was a steal compared to this! 400% markup on an item still available? seriously?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Stickers-24-Pack-Box_W0QQitemZ150430895655QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2306614e27#ht_500wt_956
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 07, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
400% markup on an item still available? seriously?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Stickers-24-Pack-Box_W0QQitemZ150430895655QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2306614e27#ht_500wt_956
and another insane Old School markup on an item still available. Opening bid for a sheet at $100? buy it now at $149? Fishing for idiots obviously.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200458639836&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1182 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200458639836&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1182)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 09, 2010, 02:15:09 PM
I like Michael and have done business happily with him many times. However, this auction typifies the silliness of using PSA population reports to conclude a given wacky is rare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-SUNSTROKE-PSA-8-tough-Centered_W0QQitemZ220583584306

So no one bothered to submit many Creature Crackers. That makes it rare? I have at least 2 copies that are sure PSA 8's.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on April 09, 2010, 02:46:27 PM
I like Michael and have done business happily with him many times. However, this auction typifies the silliness of using PSA population reports to conclude a given wacky is rare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-SUNSTROKE-PSA-8-tough-Centered_W0QQitemZ220583584306

So no one bothered to submit many Creature Crackers. That makes it rare? I have at least 2 copies that are sure PSA 8's.
I'll bet I have PSA9 gradable middle series given that I got mainly 8's and a 9 when I sent in my batch of series 1s.  I just have to get motivated to pull everything and start sending some of it in.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on April 16, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
WOW! This guy really knows his Wacky's.
Note: From John Kapera, a Lot of Early Non-Sport cards That I’m listed should of been professionally graded so yes I know it, these are scarce cards because kids used these stickers on everything and even me when I sold Comic books My boxes were covered with Stickers as were other dealers and collectors no one knows how few early stickers there really are left they even made sticker books I predict in the next ten years the cards I’m selling will go up a whole lot and when it comes to collectibles I’m usually right. Let me add on Quality Promo & Insert cards is a Giant sleeper, price guides haven’t changed there price in years, no one knows how many cards are left most were pitched, most price guides says $2.00 that don’t mean it’s true the price guide won’t tell you were you can find it for $2.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-7th-Series-El-Polluto-Cigars_W0QQitemZ170254973465

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-7th-Series-Feetena-Cereal_W0QQitemZ180281605474

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-6th-Series-Fruit-of-the-Tomb_W0QQitemZ170254971584

Yes! They should be professionally graded! I love the line about most price guides say $2 but that don't mean it's true...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on April 16, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
WOW,,, those are nice,and a good price too  :]
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on April 17, 2010, 12:23:25 AM
WOW,,, those are nice,and a good price too  :]

Who am I to believe? He is usually right:

I predict in the next ten years the cards I’m selling will go up a whole lot and when it comes to collectibles I’m usually right.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Playskull on April 18, 2010, 08:48:13 AM
Hey, look everyone: a big pile of worthless swill!  It can all be yours for the incredibly low starting price of $300.00!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/320-wacky-packages_W0QQitemZ130384189992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5b80da28
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on April 18, 2010, 11:05:03 AM
Hey, look everyone: a big pile of worthless swill!  It can all be yours for the incredibly low starting price of $300.00!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/320-wacky-packages_W0QQitemZ130384189992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5b80da28
And free shipping to boot!!! LOL :]
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on April 22, 2010, 08:50:56 AM
Does anybody know what in the world these things are:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=1976+shock+theater+art+wacky
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Dr Popper on April 22, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Does anybody know what in the world these things are:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=1976+shock+theater+art+wacky

The Wackys on the front look like just regulars with the normal copyrights. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 separate cards in there.  It looks like the text on the back cards were cut & pasted. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on April 22, 2010, 05:23:23 PM
The Wackys on the front look like just regulars with the normal copyrights. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 separate cards in there.  It looks like the text on the back cards were cut & pasted. 

It would be interesting to find out if there are two cards in there or was Topps using leftover 16th series Wackys as paste-up boards for this other series?
Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Truant on May 14, 2010, 12:10:11 PM
This guy thinks these run-of-the-mill 1980's sheets are actually worth something.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/clt/1723925097.html

What was the deal with these anyway? If I recall, there were like 20,000 produced for some reprint run or something?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 14, 2010, 04:55:36 PM
This guy thinks these run-of-the-mill 1980's sheets are actually worth something.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/clt/1723925097.html

What was the deal with these anyway? If I recall, there were like 20,000 produced for some reprint run or something?

Wasn't the theory that these were created to be inserts in Bond Bread?  Was that theory ever proven?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on May 20, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
What I want to know is who are the nutty people that are bidding on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGE-ACEO-ATC-TRADING-CARD-VIAGRA-PARODY-/310220056508?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483a8e67bc

The auction even says that the image was digitally created.  Obviously created from Plastered Peanuts.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on May 20, 2010, 06:11:49 PM
What I want to know is who are the nutty people that are bidding on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGE-ACEO-ATC-TRADING-CARD-VIAGRA-PARODY-/310220056508?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483a8e67bc

The auction even says that the image was digitally created.  Obviously created from Plastered Peanuts.

That is total garbage!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playskull on May 21, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluesberry-2006-Topps-wacky-packages-sticker-36-/170489515305?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f78d29
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on May 21, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluesberry-2006-Topps-wacky-packages-sticker-36-/170489515305?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f78d29

"Condition 7 nm"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 21, 2010, 05:21:46 PM
Looks like we have two different threads with this same title.  Perhaps one of these should be locked?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 21, 2010, 07:43:24 PM
Looks like we have two different threads with this same title.  Perhaps one of these should be locked?

Merged! Gotta love these new forum features.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on May 23, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
This seller thinks his card is near mint, but some tape damage on the back lowers it to excellent condition...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1)

 :o

I think he needs glasses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on May 24, 2010, 04:54:22 PM
This seller thinks his card is near mint, but some tape damage on the back lowers it to excellent condition...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1)

 :o

I think he needs glasses.

When he says Near Mint, he means the card is next to a box of Girls Scout cookies.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on May 24, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
When he says Near Mint, he means the card is next to a box of Girls Scout cookies.
Or maybe it's in Denver.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 29, 2010, 07:00:18 AM
Perfect thread for this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-STICKER-28-HER-SHE-MR-GOODBYE-/400035308198?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d23f662a6
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on May 29, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
Perfect thread for this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-STICKER-28-HER-SHE-MR-GOODBYE-/400035308198?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d23f662a6

wow...what a deal,i wish i had money to get all the 82' series cards for such a good price  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RonZombie on May 29, 2010, 04:06:13 PM
wow...what a deal,i wish i had money to get all the 82' series cards for such a good price  :]
It is a GREAT DEAL it has free shipping!!! :o ??? :^) :-[ :-X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 14, 2010, 07:32:23 AM
Hey, might as well ask $149 for a $10 item, what's the harm??

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Graded-Topps-Wax-Pack-GAI-Authentic-/180511273288
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 25, 2010, 06:05:27 AM

What am I missing on this one?………………..

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACK-COLLECTION-47-VINTAGE-STICKER-CARDS-/180525169021?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0823797d#ht_500wt_1154
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 25, 2010, 07:08:40 AM
What am I missing on this one?………………..

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACK-COLLECTION-47-VINTAGE-STICKER-CARDS-/180525169021?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0823797d#ht_500wt_1154
Come on now, it has a Pupsi in it, along with free shipping.  What's not to like!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:06:36 PM
Come on now, it has a Pupsi in it, along with free shipping.  What's not to like!
I was hoping someone here would pick up on this one. The seller and I went back and forth a couple times. Here's my original message:
Quote from: bigtomi to ebay seller
Hi. I don't have a question, except for how did you determine that these are worth $1,400? A lot of less than 50 Wacky Packs (including some '79-'80 reissues) is worth about $25 or so. The Pupsi-Cola is somewhat rare, but even it is worth maybe $25 alone. You might want to consider adjusting your starting bid amount...like taking the zeros off it. Just trying to help. Good luck!!
Here is their reply:
Quote from: ebay seller to bigtomi
I realize that 10 of the stickers from the reissues are not worth much, but 37 of them are from the early 70's and some have sold for $200.00 to $300.00 and some that I have sold for around $100.00. Even though my asking price may seem high, I am looking at all offers and the $1,400 is not a "starting bid" it is a buy it now price with option for offers. I find it rude that you would make a comment that I find to be insulting as dropping the zeros in my price. You are well aware that this item is worth more than $14.00 so you might not want to quit your day job lol. Thanks for your helpful insight.
Continued in next post...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:12:53 PM
Continued in next post...
So, here's my response:
Quote from: bigtomi to ebay seller
I am aware that the number was a BIN. My point was that this number is degrees of magnitude off. What tan/white backs did you get $100 for? What ones have you seen sell for $200-$300? As a long time collector, I am curious about this. I can also offer you this advice: If anyone offers you more than $50, take it, as they're as misinformed about these as you are.
Finally (as I let it go after this):
Quote from: ebay seller to bigtomi
Years ago I had a few that I sold at a card show, I think it was a dealer. I sold 5 cards and was paid close to $300.00. At the time I could not find the rest of my cards. My point being why am I to care about being informed I collected these stupid cards when I was a child and I could care less. My theory is that I will reduce the price periodically until someone buys them and I will be informed of the true value when that happens, until then I could care less. Also, why do you even care, if you are not interested and/or know that the price is too high, you can always move on. Regardless, all I need to know as a seller is that my price is better too high than too low because like I said I always reduce my price until it sells. My personal opinion is that all these items are valueless and are just clutter. I know you collect because I looked at what you purchase and I have to tell you I dumped alot of the items you purchased in the trash no disrespect, but partride family music???? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Happy Collecting
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: ebay moron
My personal opinion is that all these items are valueless and are just clutter
So, what I want to respond is: OK, then, send me the valueless Pupsi and you can wipe your ass with the rest, as far as I'm concerned.

But, it ain't worth it anymore...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
man that's crazy,,,the world is full of "nuts"
i'm glad you called him out,it's funny as hell to hear these reply's to such insane pricing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
lets all put this one on your 'watch list' so he thinks he has lots of potential buyers  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on June 25, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
lets all put this one on your 'watch list' so he thinks he has lots of potential buyers  :P
I just added this item to my Watch List.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 10:11:33 PM
ok who did it??
someone made him an offer  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on June 26, 2010, 04:40:09 AM
ok who did it??
someone made him an offer  :]


I offered him $20
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 26, 2010, 05:51:10 AM
I offered him $20


 :o...did you really?
he must be pissed!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on June 26, 2010, 06:41:09 AM

 :o...did you really?
he must be pissed!

I figured "what the hell"!  If enough people make him low-ball offers, he might just get the picture.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 6up on June 26, 2010, 05:14:26 PM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 27, 2010, 04:31:47 AM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 

wow,,,5 offers,all from different buyers,,,this lot is HOT !...he must be thinkin'  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 27, 2010, 08:14:23 AM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 28, 2010, 05:34:24 AM
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.

Maybe I will jump in and make him an offer, $25.  It's funny to watch this thing slide.  I wonder what he will think when he brings it all the way down to $100 and it still does not sell!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on June 28, 2010, 07:18:51 AM
I offered him $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 30, 2010, 07:23:04 PM
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.
it's dropped a couple more times. only $299 now! what a deal!

I thought maybe they had just screwed up initially,  and were in denial or didn't realize what they did - to me it read in their response to your question that they meant to put $14.00, not $1400. forgot the decimal? no big thing
But apparently not... this is just ridiculous ...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on July 07, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
Looking at ebay this afternoon reminded me of this topic to the point of where I had to leave a few comments.

I won't single-out any particular person but I see alot of re-selling of toppsvault items. I've lost my share of auctions but when I do I like to see what the item ended up selling for. There are some on there now being sold for 3 and 4x's the final winning bid when it was originally auctioned. These people must be overly optomistic or think collectors will think it's a deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 08:50:22 AM

This dude lists the exact same Cram sticker 4 times and each auction has a picture of Cram from Greg's website.  He also notes that he doesn't combine shipping, so $1.75 shipping for each single sticker.  Crap like this bugs me.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-CRAM-Tan-Backs-/360283409725?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e2908d3d#ht_500wt_1154
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on July 22, 2010, 10:19:31 AM
 :'(  lets get him  >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on July 22, 2010, 11:59:15 AM
This dude lists the exact same Cram sticker 4 times and each auction has a picture of Cram from Greg's website.  He also notes that he doesn't combine shipping, so $1.75 shipping for each single sticker.  Crap like this bugs me.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-CRAM-Tan-Backs-/360283409725?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e2908d3d#ht_500wt_1154

I saw this too and was about to post on this thread. You beat me to it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
:'(  lets get him  >:D


This was his response when I questioned if it was the actual sticker…………….

"The one you see is the actual card the other ones are the same picture copied---All are the same condition MINT"

It's strange he would say that when obviously all 4 are identical.  You can see the little blemishes in the exact same spot.  The shadowing is a dead give away too.  Who does those on an auction anyway? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 22, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Rob,
I had a bad experience with this guy: ebay seller - vitominella. Personally, I would avoid him. I purchased 2 singles from him in June & requested that he ship them together. He said they were from different sellers, so they couldn't be shipped together. I found this very annoying especially because the shipping was $2.25 on a single sticker and it says nowhere in the auctions I won that they couldn't be combined. He has subsequently added that there is no combined shipping to his auctions AFTER that.

That being the case, I paid for them a couple of days apart figuring that if they weren't coming together, let him ship 2 packages if I was paying for 2. I received the 1st package, but I never received the 2nd. When I asked him for a copy of the postal receipts since both packages were gioing to the same place, he just gave the receipt #s dates & times, from the SAME post office and his note said that if I wanted delivery confirmation I should have requested it. Since he originally said that they were from different sellers, I figured he was having them drop shipped, but based on his info, that was NOT the case. He didn't apologize or ask or offer anything further. Someone I definitely thought to myself I would never do business with again.

I then opened a case on ebay, they decided in my favor & refunded the money. A big waste of time & unpleasant experience done mostly for principle, but if anyone else can learn & avoid, by all means, please do.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
Rob,
I had a bad experience with this guy: ebay seller - vitominella. Personally, I would avoid him. I purchased 2 singles from him in June & requested that he ship them together. He said they were from different sellers, so they couldn't be shipped together. I found this very annoying especially because the shipping was $2.25 on a single sticker and it says nowhere in the auctions I won that they couldn't be combined. He has subsequently added that there is no combined shipping to his auctions AFTER that.

That being the case, I paid for them a couple of days apart figuring that if they weren't coming together, let him ship 2 packages if I was paying for 2. I received the 1st package, but I never received the 2nd. When I asked him for a copy of the postal receipts since both packages were gioing to the same place, he just gave the receipt #s dates & times, from the SAME post office and his note said that if I wanted delivery confirmation I should have requested it. Since he originally said that they were from different sellers, I figured he was having them drop shipped, but based on his info, that was NOT the case. He didn't apologize or ask or offer anything further. Someone I definitely thought to myself I would never do business with again.

I then opened a case on ebay, they decided in my favor & refunded the money. A big waste of time & unpleasant experience done mostly for principle, but if anyone else can learn & avoid, by all means, please do.

He sounds like someone DEFINITELY to avoid.  Did you leave him a neg?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ROID on July 22, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
I bought 1 wacky from vitominella. Got busy with the yard and around the house. 2 days pass and I have 3 messages on my ebay page from him demanding my payment of $3.25. Paid him,but left no feedback. I'll stick with Ted Jeffrey and Paul Mandan. I got 16 wackys from Paul in 1 shipment...$1 postage just as he says. Can't beat that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 22, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
I bought 1 wacky from vitominella. Got busy with the yard and around the house. 2 days pass and I have 3 messages on my ebay page from him demanding my payment of $3.25. Paid him,but left no feedback. I'll stick with Ted Jeffrey and Paul Mandan. I got 16 wackys from Paul in 1 shipment...$1 postage just as he says. Can't beat that.

Gotta add that I have made at least  6 purchased from Ted Jeffrey in the past few months and have had great results each time. Nothing I would call a terrific bargain but sometimes its nice to be able to purchase with confidence you will get exactly what was advertised at a fair price... sometime no surprises is worth a hair bit extra.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on July 22, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
Or maybe it's in Denver.

Good one.  By this reckoning, anything at the Philly Show could be designated Near Mint.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on July 23, 2010, 05:10:48 AM
Good one.  By this reckoning, anything at the Philly Show could be designated Near Mint.
Good point! Some enterprising seller should make use of that, just to draw attention to their booth.

I was once in a big candy store in Denver and asked for the famous "Denver Mint" that I'd heard so much about. After laughing too much at my own joke, I mentioned that they must hear that joke all the time. However, the two employees behind the counter quite convincingly said that they hadn't. It must have been their first day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 23, 2010, 06:14:15 AM
He sounds like someone DEFINITELY to avoid.  Did you leave him a neg?

I gave him a neutral. He says the post office lost it. Although he is not accomodating (IMO) I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that respect, but did explain that "the item never arrived & ebay refunded my money" in the feedback comments. Live, learn & move on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 23, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
I gave him a neutral. He says the post office lost it. Although he is not accomodating (IMO) I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that respect, but did explain that "the item never arrived & ebay refunded my money" in the feedback comments. Live, learn & move on.

That seems fair...based on the fact you got your money back...thx for the info...will definitely beware...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 11, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 11, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)
I think he has some issues with counting or maybe he uses a numbering system different from ours.....only 7 stickers have fallen off?  Did a bunch more fly off from the force of the flash from his camera?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 12, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
I think he has some issues with counting or maybe he uses a numbering system different from ours.....only 7 stickers have fallen off?  Did a bunch more fly off from the force of the flash from his camera?
"Different numbering system" lol. I appreciate it when people pile on a bit because it helps to catch my attention and to motivate me to click a link or read more about something, and I’m sure glad I clicked that link from Fanatical. I’m going to start crying now. That has to one of the funniest things ever, hun? The flooring and the crystal figurines add a nice touch to the shot. Is this auction some forum member’s idea of a joke? And it’s not even April Fool’s Day. I suspect that sheet spent many years rolling around in the back of a Pinto hatchback with someones Van Halen posters and old sneakers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 12, 2010, 07:06:15 AM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)

Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 12, 2010, 04:27:51 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
yeah, it's sad to see uncut sheets from the original run in bad condition. I've always felt that those are some of the coolest items around
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 12, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
I sold my double series 5 sheet earlier this year!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on August 13, 2010, 03:05:52 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D

Lots of empty spaces for Jay to draw little sketches . . .
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
I sold my double series 5 sheet earlier this year!
I never saw your sheet but I can imagine it was quite an upgrade from this sheet. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 13, 2010, 10:38:21 PM
I never saw your sheet but I can imagine it was quite an upgrade from this sheet. ;)
I sold it privately, it was available on my listed "for sale" thread on the old forum.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 11:17:10 PM
I sold it privately, it was available on my listed "for sale" thread on the old forum.

It's strange how most of us collectors (or just buyers) of the 70's probably remember series 4-8 the best but non of those cards have as much value as other sets (other then the obvious short prints). I realize they ramped up production for those sets and people bought a truck load of those sets but still, now, almost 40 years later they don't have the same value even though, I am sure, that most collectors feel those series are dear to their hearts. I still have a very fond memory of series 7. I bought a bunch of that series as it was the peak of my collecting. Now that series isn't that highly regarded by some collectors. I also love the 11th series. I don't know why but that was another series I bought a bunch of and stuck anywhere. In fact, when I got back into this hobby back in 2004 the first set I bought was series 7. To me that holds a lot of sentimental value. I now have a ton of series 7 stuff but it's still fun to collect.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
This auction may not fall in the 'are these people nuts' column but I think it does say a lot for the hype of the new postcard series. People are trying to get the perfect sketch (whatever that may be) and will take so many chances to see if someone else passed it by.
Look at this auction. It still has 4 days left on it and it's up to almost $160

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNOPENED-287-Wacky-Packs-Series-6-postcards-w-SKETCH-/260648043205
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on August 14, 2010, 06:23:42 AM
I'd say quite a few buyers/sellers on ebay these days have far surpassed being nuts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 14, 2010, 09:02:13 AM
This auction may not fall in the 'are these people nuts' column but I think it does say a lot for the hype of the new postcard series. People are trying to get the perfect sketch (whatever that may be) and will take so many chances to see if someone else passed it by.
Look at this auction. It still has 4 days left on it and it's up to almost $160

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNOPENED-287-Wacky-Packs-Series-6-postcards-w-SKETCH-/260648043205
How is this any different than folks buying unopend old school boxes hoping to pull a nice one?  I think if someone crunches the numbers based on % and value of all possible pulls, they will see the calculated value of these "unopened" items is too high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 18, 2010, 10:04:22 AM
I'd say quite a few buyers/sellers on ebay these days have far surpassed being nuts.

Guilty!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on August 18, 2010, 02:05:11 PM
Guilty!

What we used to be able to get at a relatively low winning bid has increased 100, 200% and even more.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on August 31, 2010, 05:47:58 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crakola Crayons on August 31, 2010, 06:46:46 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d

Mine is miscut the exact same way.  Worth $25.00?  I don't think so.  Worth not much more likely.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 31, 2010, 09:22:20 AM
Mine is miscut the exact same way.  Worth $25.00?  I don't think so.  Worth not much more likely.

I could possibly see miscuts like these being worth something (maybe even the $25) if they were rare.  But it seems that these are pretty common with this new series!

You could buy it from this guy for $25 and then send it in to Topps for a replacement!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 31, 2010, 10:56:46 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d

There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on August 31, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
OMG   :o
tat's a shame,,,what a bunch of hacks...lemme guess a mint perfect cut Pupsi foil will now go for $100 cause they messed so many up

there ya go i got the bidding started..don't rape me on shipping  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 31, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

Hey! I got a set exactly like that. So for so many of these miscut foils to have gone out, there must of been a pretty sizable run that slipped through unnoticed. I wonder how these are checked and how often during the printing and cutting process.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 31, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
...don't rape me on shipping  :]
I've never heard that before.
That’s gorgeous.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 31, 2010, 06:11:45 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

That's funny!  I was thinking about listing a budget full set of Foils all with defects.  I bet someone would buy them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 09:01:59 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

my bid was canceled and it's ended???..wtf?...did ya get some big offer to pull it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
my bid was canceled and it's ended???..wtf?...did ya get some big offer to pull it?
What do you mean your bid? The top bidder bought a few other things from me so I negotiated a price with him to sell it along with the other cards he bought. Did you have a snipe in there?
What I find is most anything on ebay is up for negotiations. I saw that Cardgary yesterday sold a gold Wiiz that I may have been after. I messaged him to see if it was sold and he said yes. I didn't have a chance. With ebay fee's, people with try and get around the extra cost.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 09:16:27 PM
i'm not busting yer balls,,,i do it all the time as well
just funny that this would warrent that type of transaction...must be worth more money then i thought
next time i'll bid $2  :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
i'm not busting yer balls,,,i do it all the time as well
just funny that this would warrent that type of transaction...must be worth more money then i thought
next time i'll bid $2  :D

It's not a tremendous amount of money but it would be a lot cheaper to buy than a set of foils. You also have to realize I pulled these expecting to have sets of foils and now I am about 9 pupsi's short :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
ya that's gonna suck for lots of people,,,to tell ya truth though,,,a page of 9 mis-cuts would be cool to keep
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
ya that's gonna suck for lots of people,,,to tell ya truth though,,,a page of 9 mis-cuts would be cool to keep

Oh, now you throw that in my face ;)
I'm really not a fan of miscut cards. I don't like them. I like everything to be perfect in my collection. The only thing I have found with my collection is that I am not perfect..LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 11:50:14 PM
 :]...ya i'm wit ya,,,i hate mis-cuts,,i spent alot of money to make sure my collection has none as well but it;s more of a novelty item when ya get a page of them like that
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 06:27:05 AM
What do you mean your bid? The top bidder bought a few other things from me so I negotiated a price with him to sell it along with the other cards he bought. Did you have a snipe in there?
What I find is most anything on ebay is up for negotiations. I saw that Cardgary yesterday sold a gold Wiiz that I may have been after. I messaged him to see if it was sold and he said yes. I didn't have a chance. With ebay fee's, people with try and get around the extra cost.

What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 03, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.

From the opposite side, I can tell you how much it stinks to be bidding on an item, and then it's just gone.  That's happened to me a number of times, and I frequently now feel, why bother trying?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 06:57:30 AM
From the opposite side, I can tell you how much it stinks to be bidding on an item, and then it's just gone.  That's happened to me a number of times, and I frequently now feel, why bother trying?

Exactly, and that's why I won't pull one down if there is a bid.  It's happened to me as a buyer and it stinks, especially if there is something you really want.  If there are others out there like me it would be wise to put an early bid in just to show interest.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 09:03:29 AM
What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.

I have only pulled down 2 auctions with bidding in the last 10 years. I have pulled down about 20 auctions in the last couple years with no bidding to sell off of ebay. I really didn't think the miscut auction would get much notice but I guess it has. The guy that bought it was also the top bidder and I got 4 times as much for it as he was bidding. The auction could have gone higher but I really didn't care. I totally agree that ebay is great for exposure and we need it. I don't plan to do this on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 03, 2010, 09:16:25 AM
they are steep,,,i'm mean 12%,,,plus listing fee's..it's just to much
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 03, 2010, 09:27:23 AM
I have only pulled down 2 auctions with bidding in the last 10 years. I have pulled down about 20 auctions in the last couple years with no bidding to sell off of ebay. I really didn't think the miscut auction would get much notice but I guess it has. The guy that bought it was also the top bidder and I got 4 times as much for it as he was bidding. The auction could have gone higher but I really didn't care. I totally agree that ebay is great for exposure and we need it. I don't plan to do this on a regular basis.

But what if somebody came on here and said, "SOLD!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Sue Mee on September 03, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
But what if somebody came on here and said, "SOLD!!"

(http://www.midaswelby.com/lmao.gif)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on September 03, 2010, 11:00:08 AM
...don't they deserve to make a little  money in return?.

Key word being "little"... End of auction fees + Paypal fees add up to a lot more than a little.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 03, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
Exactly, and that's why I won't pull one down if there is a bid.  It's happened to me as a buyer and it stinks, especially if there is something you really want.  If there are others out there like me it would be wise to put an early bid in just to show interest.
I pull auctions regularly but only if they have no bids.  Most of the time, I run fixed price auctions, accepting offers and then I sell off line.  If you review my past listed auctions that were not relisted, 90% of them had been sold privately.  Pollydent art is a good example.  My extra set of Old School sketches would be another.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
Oh My God! OMG!
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-7-GOLD-FLASH-FOIL-CARD-18-20-/330468468130
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 07:29:35 PM

This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805

Did you even look at the gold I posted? You could get a whole set cheap!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:40:30 PM
This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805

Don't forget this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-7-ANS7-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-WOW-/110581510042

must be Cardgary's brother!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 04, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
I get the same feeling with sketch cards as the housing market in 2005/2006. Kept wondering what the heck people were thinking and then... *POP!!*

Kind of like Tulip Mania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_bubble) in 17th century Netherlands.

Perhaps we're in the midst of a Sketch Card Bubble...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Sue Mee on September 06, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 06, 2010, 06:16:38 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.

They are fishing for suckers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on September 07, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.

Its probably 'Turbo???' he's notorious for that!! Fishing for suckers!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 07, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???
Funny. We should call these people, Keystone Seller's. That's a nice mark up! Maybe it's a "handling charge"?  haha

I've been wondering (maybe I missed it), do we have any idea of how many trays were (or will be) produced? Do we know if the cereal box sets will be available for several years to come?

I have the same question about the regular edition postcards. I see Topps still has all of the postcard series available, including series 1 from 2007, and wonder if or how long it will take to sell out, or if they every will.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 07, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Funny. We should call these people, Keystone Seller's. That's a nice mark up! Maybe it's a "handling charge"?  haha

I've been wondering (maybe I missed it), do we have any idea of how many trays were (or will be) produced? Do we know if the cereal box sets will be available for several years to come?

I have the same question about the regular edition postcards. I see Topps still has all of the postcard series available, including series 1 from 2007, and wonder if or how long it will take to sell out, or if they every will.
I don't know how many cereal boxes Topps made but they will eventually sell out because they are ANS7 product. They can keep printing postcards as long as they want.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 11, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
I find it amusing that this guy is selling these as promos

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-New-Series-ANS-7-Promotional-Card-5-lot_W0QQitemZ230520059101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D380266291184%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5752111975390376882
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:07:50 PM
I find it amusing that this guy is selling these as promos

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-New-Series-ANS-7-Promotional-Card-5-lot_W0QQitemZ230520059101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D380266291184%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5752111975390376882

Technically it is a promo though because it's promoting the collectors kit, no?   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:21:01 PM

There seems to be a trend lately to list items at obscene prices.  I don't remember this happening until recently...............

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS7-RARE-GOLD-Flash-Foil-WETFLIX-20-/260663175935?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb0bc6aff
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:22:49 PM

This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 11, 2010, 05:44:24 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

I'm waiting for it to hit six figures - maybe then it will sell!  If not, he might just keep it forever!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 11, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

Yeah, I've seen that one from $18k onward. Hilarious.

Seems to be under the delusion: "If it doesn't sell, it's obviously not expensive enough."  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 11, 2010, 09:53:36 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 11, 2010, 09:56:06 PM
That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.
The insertion fees are barely 50 cents with all of the specials ebay has been running.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 12, 2010, 09:12:56 AM
That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.

I sent him an friendly email letting him know he accidentally added an extra "0" onto his price.  The funny think is even with the zero missing it's still too high!   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 12, 2010, 06:37:44 PM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 12, 2010, 06:42:03 PM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
LOL, private auction, I don't think so......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 12, 2010, 08:22:40 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

You know what they say:

(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n363/mikiedepaz/whitney_houston.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on September 13, 2010, 03:11:05 AM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
Maybe the high bidders are both inexperienced with the net and both thought this set was a lucky find.

Imagine a world where every auction includes a "going rate" quote.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 13, 2010, 03:24:47 AM
Maybe the high bidders are both inexperienced with the net and both thought this set was a lucky find.

Imagine a world where every auction includes a "going rate" quote.

I bid on a few of his sets,,just lookin' for deals,,the 15th went for over $300,,seems fishy but we'll see what Brad gets for his
i paid $140 w/puzzle for my 14th set,, average NM and only upgraded about 3 of them,.,,i thought it was a good deal at the time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 13, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
I got my 14th a couple years back for $140 without puzzle
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 17, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 17, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

no question...he's nuts  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RonZombie on September 17, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
I got my 14th a couple years back for $140 without puzzle
My wife got me mine a couple of Christmas ago!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on September 17, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

Best lines: "not mint" and "has wear".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 17, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

Even better: $6.50 shipping! :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on September 19, 2010, 01:17:17 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 19, 2010, 01:28:03 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5

lol! Not only is it Brand New, it's Brand New Great Looking Brand New!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 19, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
lol! Not only is it Brand New, it's Brand New Great Looking Brand New!
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on September 19, 2010, 01:45:25 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...

"Provocative"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2010, 03:29:55 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...

I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 19, 2010, 03:39:57 PM
I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 

I couldn't agree more with your "anallysis".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
I couldn't agree more with your "anallysis".


 :bravo_2: 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 19, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
But... oh, never mind. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 19, 2010, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on Today at 02:31:31 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...


I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 

Dem cards need "proctive" card holders - otherwise, handling might "recdem".

Sorry, I shoulda quit before I hit bottom.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 19, 2010, 08:02:49 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5
One of the KISS members is an artist now and he doesn't seem to like discussion KISS at all.  I think it is Paul Stanley, anyone know for sure? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 19, 2010, 08:49:38 PM
it's baaaaack

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110588501706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf969eca
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 20, 2010, 09:32:12 AM
it's baaaaack

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110588501706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf969eca

WT_?!?

mb there is an infomercial or something that both this guy and the guy with The Dims painting saw: "Raise Prices on your eBay non-sellers to Get Rich Quick!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Taz on September 20, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
One of the KISS members is an artist now and he doesn't seem to like discussion KISS at all.  I think it is Paul Stanley, anyone know for sure? 

You are correct, it is Paul Stanley.  I was in Chicago a few years past and Paul was at a local mall that had an art gallery that was showing his paintings. I was fortunate to be able to talk with Paul for a short time and he definitely steered away talking about KISS and I thought nothing more about it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on September 20, 2010, 09:45:08 AM
WT_?!?

mb there is an infomercial or something that both this guy and the guy with The Dims painting saw: "Raise Prices on your eBay non-sellers to Get Rich Quick!"

I like it, it has a distinguished look to it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on September 20, 2010, 10:32:11 AM
You are correct, it is Paul Stanley.  I was in Chicago a few years past and Paul was at a local mall that had an art gallery that was showing his paintings. I was fortunate to be able to talk with Paul for a short time and he definitely steered away talking about KISS and I thought nothing more about it.

I read an article about his artwork ( I forget where) and he only likes to discuss his art when he is representing his art. If it were an interview about music, then he will talk KISS all day. I got the impressing that with painting, he initially was surprised that he had this talent in him and now is proud of what he has accomplished. I imagine that he has spent 35+ years talking KISS and now wants to talk painting. Painting is relatively new to him and exciting. Questions about whether Peter and Ace will rejoin the band are tired and old and are probably thrown at him daily. Gene is THE perfect self-promoter, so Paul probably lets Gene be the spokes person nowdays.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HeadAndBoulders on September 20, 2010, 12:53:18 PM
I read an article about his artwork ( I forget where) and he only likes to discuss his art when he is representing his art. If it were an interview about music, then he will talk KISS all day. I got the impressing that with painting, he initially was surprised that he had this talent in him and now is proud of what he has accomplished. I imagine that he has spent 35+ years talking KISS and now wants to talk painting. Painting is relatively new to him and exciting. Questions about whether Peter and Ace will rejoin the band are tired and old and are probably thrown at him daily. Gene is THE perfect self-promoter, so Paul probably lets Gene be the spokes person nowdays.
Wow!!! One of my favorite topics on "Are These People Nuts"  thread.  Usually, in the last few interviews when the whole band are together, Paul seems to dominate the interviews concerning KISS.  He is a multi-talented individual, and  in my opinion, a very underrated vocalist.  He is the heart and soul of KISS in my opinion.  I wasnt overly thrilled with "Sonic Boom"  but when I heard Ace's new solo album "Anomaly", all I could think is  "this is what is missing from KISS".  Even though I am not looking for another reunion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 23, 2010, 05:44:43 PM
This doesn’t rise to the level of outrage as some of the auctions in this thread, but I think it’s funny to see someone selling a common title with writing on the front for $4.99

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Non-Sports/1974/Wacky_Packages_Series_8/4/Burpsi-Cola

I’ve got a fair number of stickers with names on the back of them (OS swill that I scored from Greg and Ernie about 8 years ago when I first got back into the hobby). I find some of writing on the backs (kids writing) to be kind of neat and I had a kooky idea recently to make a framed collection of the writing on the back of WP stickers. Maybe a set of 4 X 4 sticker backs (I’d say tanbacks set against a white or black background) might look pretty cool. Or not. Just another nutty idea of mine . . .

A related idea is to have a contest to see who has the sticker with the craziest / coolest writing or drawing on the reverse. There might be some neat stuff out there!

OK, I've now completed my creative thinking quota for the month of September.      :icon_jokercolor:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 23, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
I won a set of series 16's awhile back. I was very suspicious of the auction but won it for $900, which was a very good deal at the time. The guy messages me and was totally blown away since they couldn't sell them for $.50 at their garage sale. He said his wife told him to throw them but he decided to put them on eBay.
About 5 of the cards were really nice while about 5 of them were used for adding up a garage sale buy totaling about $1.75. Someone used the backs as scratch paper. I sold the set for $600 and took a very hard $300 hit and a new ebay life lesson. Some people get really lucky with these quirky auctions but I have been burned a few time on various lots and such.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 23, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Non-Sports/1974/Wacky_Packages_Series_8/4/Burpsi-Cola

holy crap this place looks like it's where overpriced wackys go to die,,, :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: VX HYPERSPACE on September 25, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
I’m sorry if this has been already talked about, but how can someone tell if there is an autographed foil / auto error / Sketch in an unopened pack?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-AUTO-SKETCH-ERROR-CARD-HOT-PACK-/280566548960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415311c9e0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 25, 2010, 01:37:27 PM
I’m sorry if this has been already talked about, but how can someone tell if there is an autographed foil / auto error / Sketch in an unopened pack?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-AUTO-SKETCH-ERROR-CARD-HOT-PACK-/280566548960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415311c9e0


There has been quite a bit of discussion about this seller in the ANS7 Spoilers thread.  If you look at the seller's other auctions you will see that he is selling these "hot packs" for other types of card series (baseball, football, etc).  The only confirmation we have that this is legit is that Leslie bought a couple of packs from this person that were guaranteed to have a flash foil in them and she said that both packs did indeed have Silvers in them.  Those packs only sold for a few bucks each but I don't think anyone has taken the plunge to risk $100 on one of these possible autograph/sketch packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 28, 2010, 09:57:48 PM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on September 29, 2010, 06:10:42 AM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123



This was 1 of many 1st, 2nd & 3rd series psa9s that sold last night in the $300 to $400 range. It does seem a bit excessive to me, but since they were auctions, at least 1 other person was just under the high bidder in all cases...

I must say that I've been in the process of upgrading my 1st to 16th run over the past 6 months, and most people's nm is far from it IMO. I have gone through thousands of stickers and the majority aren't in great shape. When you go the psa route, you do save quite a bit of time and money eliminating "the chase." I usually take a hybrid approach of chasing upgrades, but when I can get a good deal on a psa htf sticker, I'm not against that.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 29, 2010, 06:28:30 AM
ya i was shocked at how much some of your 1st cards went for,a few i was watchin' went for over $300 each
it seems some people will pay these amounts just to get that high grade from PSA when they would not likely yield more then about $10 each otherwise
My 1st set is very bright,clean,sharp,with nice over whiteness and well centered,and i dout i have over $300 into the whole set even with the big 4,,,took me about a year of hunting deals,but i'm proud of it for the money.


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on September 29, 2010, 07:03:59 AM
ya i was shocked at how much some of your 1st cards went for,a few i was watchin' went for over $300 each
it seems some people will pay these amounts just to get that high grade from PSA when they would not likely yield more then about $10 each otherwise
My 1st set is very bright,clean,sharp,with nice over whiteness and well centered,and i dout i have over $300 into the whole set even with the big 4,,,took me about a year of hunting deals,but i'm proud of it for the money.




I wish those cards were mine at those prices, but I was just an auction watcher last night.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 29, 2010, 07:17:41 AM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123


.........and look how yellowed that card looks!  That to me would downgrade it to EX+ at best.  If I had a series 1 that yellowed in my collection it would definitely be on my upgrade list, but PSA says it's MINT.  It doesn't make sense.  They obviously don't take discoloration into account as long as it's balanced throughout the card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 29, 2010, 07:57:14 AM
.........and look how yellowed that card looks!  That to me would downgrade it to EX+ at best.  If I had a series 1 that yellowed in my collection it would definitely be on my upgrade list, but PSA says it's MINT.  It doesn't make sense.  They obviously don't take discoloration into account as long as it's balanced throughout the card.

It should have an ST qualifier for stained!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 29, 2010, 08:39:55 AM
If we could all guarantee results like this, I am sure that we would all pick out our best stickers for grading.  I really can not figure Ebayers out these days.  I listed a 1973 Series Two set in VG to EX condition a few months ago and it sold for a few dollars.  I listed another set a few weeks ago in similiar condition and it sold for about $80.00.  I am sure that we all have similiar stories to tell.  I have been planning to send in some stickers to PSA for years now and I keep putting it off.  I want to do it this year but I keep spending my money and buying more Original Series Wacky items.  With Old School Two right around the corner, I will probably put it off again. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 19, 2010, 07:17:11 PM
It should have an ST qualifier for stained!

Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on October 19, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

Looks awful, even for a Wacky Cloth sticker. Seriously.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 19, 2010, 07:56:44 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 19, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.
I should smear peanut butter on a high grade shedd's card and see what grade it gets.  ST for stinks?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on October 19, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

that's the 2nd time around for that one...1st time is saw it i laughed so hard i almost fell outa my chair  :85:


ya know it makes me really wonder is who is dumb enough to send these butt ugly stickers in to be graded?

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MountainGoo on October 20, 2010, 07:47:55 AM
I should smear peanut butter on a high grade shedd's card and see what grade it gets.  ST for stinks?

For ultra sheen you spray polyurethane....lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on October 20, 2010, 07:52:49 AM
At least now that it's slabbed, there's no worry of it falling apart, like all of my cloth stickers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on October 20, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.

Yeah that is ridiculous that PSA would qualify that mess with an "ST".  I have a really nice Alcohol Seltzer die-cut that is PSA 7 with an "ST" qualifier.  The stain is a tiny little black dot about 1 mm in diameter on the back of the card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 20, 2010, 10:13:27 AM
At least now that it's slabbed, there's no worry of it falling apart, like all of my cloth stickers.

Yah but I wondering if a Cloth like that could have deteriorated over several years after it was graded and slabbed, like in very hot or humid conditions?  I just can't see a grading service grading a card like that that high.  It doesn't seem possible. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 20, 2010, 01:09:52 PM
They feel the browning falls under the "ST" qualifier, and the card is otherwise NM. Kind of useless, as if they graded it without the qualifier they would have to give it a very low grade. Qualifiers were an attempt to address specific defects that might bother some more than others (like centering). It's a way of giving the buyer information about the structure combined with info about a specific defect.

Having said that, it's inappropriate, because this browning is NOT a stain, anymore than a whiteback with a tanned border is. They don't qualify or downgrade for that tanning at all, to the chagrin of many.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 20, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
This refers to the buyers of the comics I recently consigned for sale. I had bought 2 books at Electric City Comics in Schenectady, NY in Summer, 2001: Fantastic Four #68 and Tales of Suspense #89. I was ahead of my time in spending the entire '90's looking for the highest grade comics, when they were still available reasonably cheaply if you were willing to dig. I think I paid $140 for the pair.

Anyway, I had them graded by CGC and they both got grades of 9.8. The FF 68 sold for $2100, and the TOS 89 for $1540. Nuts, but I like it!! Bring on the wackys!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on October 22, 2010, 08:17:34 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231

(I had a weird experience with 9046clint recently - an item was pulled at the last second (no other bidders) and never replied to my messages)


Another one. Nice bend in the card:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vtg-Wacky-Packages-Scream-sicle-ghost-ice-cream-card-/140457734842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b3eef2ba
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on October 22, 2010, 08:40:32 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231


Hey, at least it's on sale!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 22, 2010, 09:19:13 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231

(I had a weird experience with 9046clint recently - an item was pulled at the last second (no other bidders) and never replied to my messages)


One thing that really bugs me is someone that can't show enough respect to answer emails.  I understand sometimes people are busy, but most of the time they will respond when it something that helps them, but if not you get ignored.  Just hearing that makes me not want to buy anything from him, but I avoid his auctions anyway because his prices are so high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 27, 2010, 11:34:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-CLAMMY-SOAP-PSA-7-NM-Tough-/370359885678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563b2b5f6e

Clammy must make PSA's corporate head explode. As the seller notes, SUPER TOUGH in high PSA grades. Of course, that's because when the sticker is properly centered, it appears to be miscut. So there are two ways Clammy can appear: off-center, or miscut. Therefore, PSA will never give it an unqualified grade of 8 or better. In fact, it looks like there is one 8, I'd love to see it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on October 28, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-CLAMMY-SOAP-PSA-7-NM-Tough-/370359885678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563b2b5f6e

Clammy must make PSA's corporate head explode. As the seller notes, SUPER TOUGH in high PSA grades. Of course, that's because when the sticker is properly centered, it appears to be miscut. So there are two ways Clammy can appear: off-center, or miscut. Therefore, PSA will never give it an unqualified grade of 8 or better. In fact, it looks like there is one 8, I'd love to see it!

This looks like the exact same card that I commented on back in May.  Here is a link to that post:

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg6182#msg6182

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 28, 2010, 09:44:44 AM
This looks like the exact same card that I commented on back in May.  Here is a link to that post:

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg6182#msg6182



Ha ha! Great minds think alike. I would like to see the unqualified PSA 8 that he implies exists. Maybe it's trimmed!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2010, 10:41:51 AM
One thing that really bugs me is someone that can't show enough respect to answer emails.  I understand sometimes people are busy, but most of the time they will respond when it something that helps them, but if not you get ignored.  Just hearing that makes me not want to buy anything from him, but I avoid his auctions anyway because his prices are so high.

I also find Clint is horrible about responding.  He made an offer one one of my ebay auctions so I sent him a note on it and I got no reply at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on October 28, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
I also find Clint is horrible about responding.  He made an offer one one of my ebay auctions so I sent him a note on it and I got no reply at all.

I had a couple issues 2 years ago with him,and also no reply about a set he had up a while back but i just talked to him the other day,he got back to me within' 12 hours and seemed willing to deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 28, 2010, 04:39:31 PM
I had a couple issues 2 years ago with him,and also no reply about a set he had up a while back but i just talked to him the other day,he got back to me within' 12 hours and seemed willing to deal.

I guess gray can be considered a color?  LOL!..................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 28, 2010, 04:53:39 PM
I guess gray can be considered a color?  LOL!..................
in natural light, that fill color Smokin' Joe used does appear greenish.
certainly not a true "color sketch card", but it is two-tone
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 28, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
in natural light, that fill color Smokin' Joe used does appear greenish.
certainly not a true "color sketch card", but it is two-tone

I also think all of them Joe did had that same technique.  It looks pretty cool that way.  Color though?  that's a stretch! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 02, 2010, 07:00:23 PM
$21.50? Seriously?
start digging out your grey border Play Doze
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 03, 2010, 05:46:30 AM
$21.50? Seriously?
start digging out your grey border Play Doze
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907)

I know a collector (not on the forum) who almost exclusively collected oddball error cards like this. He was interested in anything that was messed-up in production such as this card.  Apparently there are more collectors out there like this because it took more than one bidder to get a card like this up to $21.00!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 10, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
LOL,,,welcome back
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110610309472?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e36160

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 10, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
LOL,,,welcome back
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110610309472?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e36160

They have some "really wonderful" stuff for sale, most of which seems to be "vintage".

I "really want" this item, which I was amazed is labeled "previously owned":
http://cgi.ebay.com/General-Electric-gold-coin-vintage-compactron-/110610309501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e3617d



Saw another Grey border Play Doze go up (same seller I think). Wonder how many they have. Don't like it when they imply something is rare and have n more stashed in a bag without saying. Seems a tad deceptive imo.



Oh, and you could save up and buy this one instead. What a deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Sugar-Daffy-6th-Series-MT-NM-T-B-Sticker-/320613892671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa613c23f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 10, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Oh, and you could save up and buy this one instead. What a deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Sugar-Daffy-6th-Series-MT-NM-T-B-Sticker-/320613892671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa613c23f
That is steep! And to top it off, this line in the description

"Sticker is in Mint to Near Mint condition with some blunting on lower left corner."

makes me think we might need to redefine what Mint to Near Mint really is.



Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
That is steep! And to top it off, this line in the description

"Sticker is in Mint to Near Mint condition with some blunting on lower left corner."

makes me think we might need to redefine what Mint to Near Mint really is.





Actually the picture looks pretty decent. I don't see any real issues other than price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2010, 05:51:19 AM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.

That's so true!  I remember not that many years ago that I go scroll through every page of Wacky auctions in about an hour.  Now it would take at least 5 times as long.  I don't get listing individual cheap cards because it's such a pain in the neck to take scans, list them, package & mail them, it doesn't seem to pay for a buck profit. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 11, 2010, 06:28:31 AM
i noticed even since i started buyin' them a few years ago that there is WAY more singles and crap to go thru.
it kinda sux when guys are filling whole pages putting up every card in ANS or even OLDS as singles when ya can buy a whole set for near nothing,,i even hate listing my old EX+ singles unless it's a desirable card..just a waste of time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 11, 2010, 02:25:32 PM
i noticed even since i started buyin' them a few years ago that there is WAY more singles and crap to go thru.
it kinda sux when guys are filling whole pages putting up every card in ANS or even OLDS as singles when ya can buy a whole set for near nothing,,i even hate listing my old EX+ singles unless it's a desirable card..just a waste of time

My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages". Going to have to get medieval with my custom saved search!

P.S. Just put "adam-12!" on my list of excluded sellers. Has 252 Wacky Package listings, mainly ANS and all appear to be using preset photos (like Greg's, etc., with Photoshop shadowing). $9.99 for 12 ANS stickers! What a deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 02:56:39 PM
My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages". Going to have to get medieval with my custom saved search!

P.S. Just put "adam-12!" on my list of excluded sellers. Has 252 Wacky Package listings, mainly ANS and all appear to be using preset photos (like Greg's, etc., with Photoshop shadowing). $9.99 for 12 ANS stickers! What a deal!

Thanks for the tip. I didn't know you could omit sellers. I know have a very good search engine that brought my count down to 4000 hits instead of 7000. Most are now vintage stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on November 11, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
Saw another Grey border Play Doze go up (same seller I think). Wonder how many they have. Don't like it when they imply something is rare and have n more stashed in a bag without saying. Seems a tad deceptive imo.

I saw that Matt Stock was saying on the other forum that he had about five of the silver Play-Doze stickers.  He was trying to play them up as a significant variation, comparing them to a Grime Heavy or a Spic-n-Span.  Personally I still think it is nothing more than a printing error
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages".


So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!
Do an advanced search and towards the bottom you can include or exclude any seller. It took me awhile to find it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
I saw that Matt Stock was saying on the other forum that he had about five of the silver Play-Doze stickers.  He was trying to play them up as a significant variation, comparing them to a Grime Heavy or a Spic-n-Span.  Personally I still think it is nothing more than a printing error

It is a printing error. I have 4 of them and the border looks more gray than silver
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 11, 2010, 08:11:13 PM
So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!

It's definitely buried. I originally asked how it was done in my post because I couldn't figure it out, then I suddenly found it!

It's also quirky to update a search. Do an advanced search, add the terms and/or excluded sellers, etc., but before you do the search again you need to check "Save this search to my Ebay" near the top (awkward when you're updating excluded sellers). A popup appears, and if you want to replace an existing search you have to click the "replace search" link in that popup.

I do UI design work as part of my profession and their search UI is hideous.

I've been adding excluded search terms like "Mask Neg" and "tee shirt" to take care of phrases I don't want to see. Also "Flashback silver" and "Flashback 2 silver". Fun!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 15, 2010, 12:37:13 PM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.
I usually limit my search to auctions only if I  do not have a lot of time. Sure you might miss out on a nice BIN deal every now and then, but 99% of all the looney auctions are overpriced BIN's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 15, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
It's definitely buried. I originally asked how it was done in my post because I couldn't figure it out, then I suddenly found it!

It's also quirky to update a search. Do an advanced search, add the terms and/or excluded sellers, etc., but before you do the search again you need to check "Save this search to my Ebay" near the top (awkward when you're updating excluded sellers). A popup appears, and if you want to replace an existing search you have to click the "replace search" link in that popup.

I do UI design work as part of my profession and their search UI is hideous.

I've been adding excluded search terms like "Mask Neg" and "tee shirt" to take care of phrases I don't want to see. Also "Flashback silver" and "Flashback 2 silver". Fun!

I eliminate a ton by typing in "-ans*" and "-flashback*".  That gets rid of anything that has ANS and flashback in the title.  So ANS1, ANS2, ANS3, etc. are all not included in the search.  The minus sign and the * are lifesavers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 15, 2010, 12:45:18 PM
It is a printing error. I have 4 of them and the border looks more gray than silver

Just as an FYI it is definitely an error, but it's not a press density variance or else other titles would have the same issue.  For some reason that title seems to be missing the 5th unit black plate, which goes over the other border colors to get a strong dense black border without making the art too dark. 

Now that I have one and have evaluated it I think it's a legit variation, although more in-line with the "Oddie-Boy" variation.  It's in my "obscure variations" category. 

I call it the "Gray-Doze" border variation!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 18, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
Just as an FYI it is definitely an error, but it's not a press density variance or else other titles would have the same issue.  For some reason that title seems to be missing the 5th unit black plate, which goes over the other border colors to get a strong dense black border without making the art too dark.

Ok, at least now we know why they call him Doctor Popper.


Quote from: Dr Popper
I call it the "Gray-Doze" border variation!

DOH...
...ze!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on November 19, 2010, 06:06:11 AM

Another great deal.  Scoop it up fast before someone else buys it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Chewing-Gum-Crocked-Original-221-/110612147941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0ff6ee5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 19, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Another great deal.  Scoop it up fast before someone else buys it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Chewing-Gum-Crocked-Original-221-/110612147941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0ff6ee5

LOL!! Wow, a single '82 album sticker (in not-too-great condition). Sweet deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 19, 2010, 08:45:14 PM
LOL!! Wow, a single '82 album sticker (in not-too-great condition). Sweet deal!
You have to admit it's got nice detail and only $75 WTF?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 19, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
You have to admit it's got nice detail and only $75 WTF?

That's cause it's an "orignal"..i like the quote,,i guess there must be alot of fakes out there..LOL
"I know that it is original as I have had it since 1980 when I got it with the chewing gum and saved it in my shoebox.  Well, it has come out for sale!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 08, 2010, 11:45:55 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32)

"It still overall looks to be in good condition."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 01:08:41 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32)

"It still overall looks to be in good condition."

lol -- I guess the sticker itself could be described that way, minus the entire border area.

Still, a bargain at $7.99 + $2.49 shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 08, 2010, 01:41:37 PM
What am I missing here on this eBay auction?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-SET-4-RARE-Binders-WOW-/320627968009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa6ea8809 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-SET-4-RARE-Binders-WOW-/320627968009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa6ea8809)

Are these binders filled with ANS7 gold border cards? Sketch cards? At these prices, I will need a binder to display my binder collection. I don't think I am going to dish out almost $500.00 and then use the durn things.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
Did I see these same binders or was it some kind of notebooks (four of them either way) that went for $200 recently?

Yeah, I just don't get it. No reason these are that valuable. I don't even think the "Wacky Packages" lettering is quite right. But hey, they were previously owned by a collector, so that must be worth something?!?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 08, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
What am I missing here on this eBay auction?

Are these binders filled with ANS7 gold border cards? Sketch cards? At these prices, I will need a binder to display my binder collection. I don't think I am going to dish out almost $500.00 and then use the durn things.
These were produced in fairly limited quantities about 10 years ago by Roxanne and ARE hard to come across, especially as a set. If memory serves, I think they sold new for around $50/set. I've never felt they were worth this kind of money (hundreds), but I've seen them sell for $200-$300 for a set...but not to me, lol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 08, 2010, 06:28:46 PM
These were produced in fairly limited quantities about 10 years ago by Roxanne and ARE hard to come across, especially as a set. If memory serves, I think they sold new for around $50/set. I've never felt they were worth this kind of money (hundreds), but I've seen them sell for $200-$300 for a set...but not to me, lol.

Sounds like it's more of an item that a collector of misc items would want, as opposed to a collector who would actually use them to store their cards in.  I guess you could do both but if I paid $300.00 or whatever for them I would want to keep them as nice as possible and not use actually them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 08, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Sounds like it's more of an item that a collector of misc items would want, as opposed to a collector who would actually use them to store their cards in.  I guess you could do both but if I paid $300.00 or whatever for them I would want to keep them as nice as possible and not use actually them.

I think they only have regular rings,not the D-ring style.Maybe someone can confirm this?
So I would not even want mine in them,if that's the case.
The last set of these sold for over $400 about 6 weeks ago or less.
I really like how the spines look when all lined up next to each other,very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 08, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

Yet I bet we could still name them all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 08, 2010, 10:55:08 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

That Cap'n Crud looks pack fresh from here  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 09, 2010, 02:55:07 AM
I think they only have regular rings,not the D-ring style.Maybe someone can confirm this?
So I would not even want mine in them,if that's the case.
The last set of these sold for over $400 about 6 weeks ago or less.
I really like how the spines look when all lined up next to each other,very nice indeed.


Yep, the Non-Sport Update Wacky Packages binders have round rings.  Too bad, since they are otherwise a really cool item, and display very nicely.  I like my set, but my Wackys didn't stay in them very long due to the fatal flaw of round rings.  I'm trying to figure out the actual year they were released - I remember locating the ad in NSU and scanning it for the old forum, so I know it's here somewhere......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 09, 2010, 05:36:53 AM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

Ha ha, I like the opening line too....................  1..cover ghoul mint condition,,has writing on back
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 09, 2010, 05:36:43 PM
Yep, the Non-Sport Update Wacky Packages binders have round rings.  Too bad, since they are otherwise a really cool item, and display very nicely.  I like my set, but my Wackys didn't stay in them very long due to the fatal flaw of round rings.  I'm trying to figure out the actual year they were released - I remember locating the ad in NSU and scanning it for the old forum, so I know it's here somewhere......

they came out in 1998/99 I want to say...  around there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 11, 2010, 07:11:18 AM

If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 11, 2010, 09:13:53 AM
If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................

That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 11, 2010, 09:18:13 AM
If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................

That’s too much. The comment “No fancy packaging” scares me a bit. I hope they remember to secure that $200 dollar sticker in a top loader or else it might become a floater ... subject to being clipped or damaged when the package is opened.

Commons run steep in Oshkosh. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 11, 2010, 11:04:07 AM
That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.

This could be a Shedd's or whiteback and it would still be too high!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on December 11, 2010, 12:51:02 PM
That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.

I heard it wasn't the middle finger, but "The Shocker"  - and that's what got Topps so excited.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 11, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
I thought this was the BustedFinger art until I looked more closely. Wow.

I think the "No fancy packaging" meant it didn't come in its wrapper or something.



lol -- the rare "middle finger" BustedFinger!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 10:09:23 AM
Dang, I must be sitting on a goldmine and didn't even know it....  slabbing swill and then treating them like rare gems just rubs me the wrong way.  Ebay is just polluted with it.  What a scam.

http://cgi.ebay.com/16-1980-80-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-PACKS-CARDS-PSA-9-MINT-/320629901683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa7080973


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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 12, 2010, 10:45:22 AM
....  slabbing swill and then treating them like rare gems just rubs me the wrong way.  Ebay is just polluted with it.
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.

you are so right...  when you look at alot of these auctions, it's sportcard peddlers.  But, you can bet your bottom dollar they know how to research sport cards !  At least this guy didn't call them RARE in all caps like many of them do. I have no problem with folks not knowing what they have, but where's the logic in asking 225.00 then.  I say, just start it at a little higher than the slabbing/posting costing and let the market dictate.  That's just me I guess....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 11:26:46 AM
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.

Also, what do you guess goes through the mind of someone who sends cards to be slabbed before they even know what they are holding in their hands?  Wouldn't you want to do 5 minutes of research (which is all it would take nowadays online) first? Geez
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 12, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
These don't look legit to me (I don't see any Topps markings anywhere) -- thoughts? comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Eyeglass-Cases-SUPER-RARE-/270675659079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0586c947
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
These don't look legit to me (I don't see any Topps markings anywhere) -- thoughts? comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Eyeglass-Cases-SUPER-RARE-/270675659079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0586c947

it's gotta be one of the least appealing Wacky item I've even seen, legit or not.  They are an eyesore (sorry for the pun).  I wouldn't take them for any price, they are not worth a penny to me...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 08:55:19 AM

This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on December 14, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................

I was just going to post this as well!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 09:02:14 AM
I was just going to post this as well!

I beat you to it.  Here's another one priced right!.................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
I beat you to it.  Here's another one priced right!.................

I've been posting eBay pics like this as screen shots so when the thread gets old the pictures don't disappear from eBays files.  It's annoying going back several months later and reading posts where the links don't work anymore.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 14, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
...and $6 shipping!  This is because of "free listing" periods by ebay.  No cost to the sellers to list total crap but ebay doesn't realize it hurts them as I am tired of sifting through the crap so I am sure I am missing some real stuff to bid on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 10:00:26 AM
...and $6 shipping!  This is because of "free listing" periods by ebay.  No cost to the sellers to list total crap but ebay doesn't realize it hurts them as I am tired of sifting through the crap so I am sure I am missing some real stuff to bid on.

It's not just the items in terrible condition but all of the worthless singles you have to sort through, mainly base set singles.  I used to be able to skim through every item a "wack* pack*" search yielded in less than an hour.  I don't know how long it would take now but I would guess 2-3X that amount. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 14, 2010, 10:12:23 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
You can make an offer! 8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 14, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
You can make an offer! 8)
I'd offer to place it in my garbage for them...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 15, 2010, 04:44:36 AM
I've been posting eBay pics like this as screen shots so when the thread gets old the pictures don't disappear from eBays files.  It's annoying going back several months later and reading posts where the links don't work anymore.   

That's something I've mentioned before about auction links, and the screen shots like you've got here really do help.  And, Plan9's in the art thread are truly creating an archive that will be available for future reference.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 19, 2010, 09:22:48 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 19, 2010, 11:02:59 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL


Yeah, but with FREE SHIPPING it's a steal!  ;D


... the "more than 10 available" cracks me up. More than 10 stickers? Exact sets like the one shown? All in great shape (including creases).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 19, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

Perhaps you didn't notice... "They all have the right trademark."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 19, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

I think and hope that some of these bizarre listings are people who honestly don't have a clue what their item is worth, and instead of doing the research they list it at a very high price thinking they can't go too wrong.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 19, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
I think and hope that some of these bizarre listings are people who honestly don't have a clue what their item is worth, and instead of doing the research they list it at a very high price thinking they can't go too wrong.

He knows they have the "right" trademark so he must be well trained in wacky knowledge  :^)
Between the online price guide and e-bay there should be no excuse for stupidity.
I think alot of these people are really nuts,but many also are just tryin' take advantage of newer collectors
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on December 20, 2010, 04:09:17 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190481862771&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I'm no expert on unopened packs by any stretch but, this seemed slightly overpriced. Please coorect me if I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190481862771&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I'm no expert on unopened packs by any stretch but, this seemed slightly overpriced. Please coorect me if I'm mistaken.

No, I don't think the price is that unreasonable. A high grade 11th yellow pack is worth at least $100, and every one of these
is graded 8.5 or 9. I think the problem is more that very few people would want 19 of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2010, 07:22:56 PM
This one's more unreasonable, as these 9ths are easily had in high grade for $20-25...

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-WACKY-PACKAGE-LOT-45-UNOPENED-WAX-PACKS-GAI-7-5-9-/140482370712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b566dc98 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-WACKY-PACKAGE-LOT-45-UNOPENED-WAX-PACKS-GAI-7-5-9-/140482370712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b566dc98)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 21, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

I think he left the  Bum Chex , Choke Wagon and Spit variation off camera....  that's the only way I can explain it ! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 22, 2010, 04:04:03 PM

This person's stuff always seems high (and often seems to be $500), but this one takes the cake (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-10-Wax-pack-and-Card_W0QQitemZ140425554101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200555341893%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5839038109699333803) imo.

I'd say more like $25? The pack doesn't seem to be in the greatest shape? Is it just because of the COA?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 01, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
This person's stuff always seems high (and often seems to be $500), but this one takes the cake (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-10-Wax-pack-and-Card_W0QQitemZ140425554101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200555341893%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5839038109699333803) imo.

I'd say more like $25? The pack doesn't seem to be in the greatest shape? Is it just because of the COA?

I have no idea why it would be that much. I had to reclick on your link to check if it was maybe Art, but no, just the pack and a card with COA. Ouch.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 01, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
I have no idea why it would be that much. I had to reclick on your link to check if it was maybe Art, but no, just the pack and a card with COA. Ouch.
it's originally from toppsvault, so it's gotta be worth way more than $500. that's a bargain!!   ;)
yeah, the majority of the stuff sold by toppsvault won't get you diddly-squat on the open market, but they sure pulled in a lot of $$ for topps when they first sold.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 01, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
it's originally from toppsvault, so it's gotta be worth way more than $500. that's a bargain!!   ;)
yeah, the majority of the stuff sold by toppsvault won't get you diddly-squat on the open market, but they sure pulled in a lot of $$ for topps when they first sold.

Just mmmmaaaybe if the orginal buyer got a tour of the inside of the Topps Vault, (with free round trip & lunch included) then it's worth the 5 Benjamins ya know.

How bout this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-TEST-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER_W0QQitemZ230561762955QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4712.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D290509941879%252B140425554101%252B190481862771%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6074053339598857927
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on January 02, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
One thing I really hate ( which we can usually get a laugh out of ) is what i call ebay "spamers". They put something out there and have no idea what it is actually worth! Some people put things on ebay for way to little droping the value of that item,while others put things insainly HIGH!! I dont know about you but sometimes that realy anoys me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 02, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Speaking of ebay tactics, I love when sellers add the word "wow" at the end of the description. Do they really think that when I read the word "wow" that I'll think I meant it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 02, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
Speaking of ebay tactics, I love when sellers add the word "wow" at the end of the description. Do they really think that when I read the word "wow" that I'll think I meant it?

I just saw the word "wow" twice in your post and knew it would be something fascinating and valuable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 02, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
One thing I really hate ( which we can usually get a laugh out of ) is what i call ebay "spamers". They put something out there and have no idea what it is actually worth! Some people put things on ebay for way to little droping the value of that item,while others put things insainly HIGH!! I dont know about you but sometimes that realy anoys me.

It doesn't annoy me because you can either get a really good bargan (if your the buyer of a lowly listed item). On the other hand, you could try to sell something high if you wanted to because the buyer should really educate themselves 1st on the average price of the particular item they are seeking. I don't list high to try to take advantage of ignorance, but I can see why people at least give it a go. So neither of it annoys me.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 03, 2011, 10:24:47 AM

How bout this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-TEST-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER_W0QQitemZ230561762955QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4712.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D290509941879%252B140425554101%252B190481862771%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6074053339598857927

That yellow Poster wrapper is definitely high but not absurdly so.  Those Test wrappers are a bitch!  I still need 2 of the 3 and I've been after them for several years.  I would pay $75.00 each for the two I need in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 03, 2011, 01:26:03 PM
RARE! WOW!! L@@K!!!


This is a really excellent reply.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 03, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
RARE! WOW!! L@@K!!!
I particularly like the items that are "Rare and Hard to find!"

versus just one of those, I guess.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
I particularly like the items that are "Rare and Hard to find!"

versus just one of those, I guess.  :^)

One of my Math professors used to put down a result and write: "True Fact:" and then say....it's better than that other kind.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 03, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
How about those items that are "hand signed". They're better than the foot signed stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 04, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
How about those items that are "hand signed". They're better than the foot signed stuff.

 :] !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on January 10, 2011, 09:19:28 AM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on January 10, 2011, 09:53:11 AM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)

I have had similar experiences with Ted (very honest & good to deal with) over several years. I know he sells mostly on consignment. He may not be aware that Topps is still selling them, or he may have a consignor who asked him to sell something at a certain price. Many people don't know about shoptopps.com, and people will buy on ebay if they don't know about it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 10, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)

I have had many good buying experiences with them also. I would just tell him about it and give him the benefit of a doubt. It could be what he thinks because the Topps site is inconsistent with many items going on and off of availibility.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 10, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
I have had many good buying experiences with them also. I would just tell him about it and give him the benefit of a doubt. It could be what he thinks because the Topps site is inconsistent with many items going on and off of availibility.

I concur with Playbug. I've had only good experiences with him. To me it seems like he is most likely unaware that you can purchase them from Topps and/or is assuming that all Postcards are "limited edition".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 11, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
I concur with Playbug. I've had only good experiences with him. To me it seems like he is most likely unaware that you can purchase them from Topps and/or is assuming that all Postcards are "limited edition".

I agree, I don't get the feeling that he is that "up" on Wackys like we are so he probably isn't even aware of it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 11, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
I don't know if I have ever seen one of these sold and this one had 2 bidders:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lot-103-Wacky-Package-Stickers-/320638414191
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 11, 2011, 07:56:53 PM
I don't know if I have ever seen one of these sold and this one had 2 bidders:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lot-103-Wacky-Package-Stickers-/320638414191

Darn I missed it!  :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 11, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
At least they saved them after peeling,,,I should have gone that route as a kid maybe i would have kept them
I only kept mine for a few years before sticking them on poster sheets...and everywhere else  :'(
About 10 years ago I found an old small tool box of mine with a bunch of series 9 stickers all over it..LOL
I should have put that on flea bay.. :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 12, 2011, 08:07:48 AM
The slight variations on the die-cut spacing on the vintage stickers sure become apparent when you see the sticker peeled off. Weird, eh?

Seems so odd to see them like that now...
Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 13, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
This decal has never been pulled off its original backing and appears to be in good condition. It sat in my closet for 35 years at the bottom of the barrel of my paper spreader. Don't miss this one and all of their other gems.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200565110613
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on January 13, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
This decal has never been pulled off its original backing and appears to be in good condition. It sat in my closet for 35 years at the bottom of the barrel of my paper spreader. Don't miss this one and all of their other gems.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200565110613


"IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE." -- at least he's honest!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on January 13, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
 :o what a great deal!!! ( if it were only going for 2 cents)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 20, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Another Kook: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300517280151

I offered $20. Here's the counteroffer I got:
Counteroffer: $253.99
$20.00! Hahahaha! You really must have a great sense of humor! All The Best.

I, of course, declined this and said:
Hahaha. You're funnier than I am. You're obviously clueless on the value of these. Good luck getting anybody sane to pay what you're asking!!

Just irks me that these idiots sell stuff in a vacuum... >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 20, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
Another Kook: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300517280151

I offered $20. Here's the counteroffer I got:
Counteroffer: $253.99
$20.00! Hahahaha! You really must have a great sense of humor! All The Best.

I, of course, declined this and said:
Hahaha. You're funnier than I am. You're obviously clueless on the value of these. Good luck getting anybody sane to pay what you're asking!!

Just irks me that these idiots sell stuff in a vacuum... >(



right on,good 1  :great:
I saw this clown's lot when he put it up and thought "this guy is off his nut!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 20, 2011, 08:18:27 PM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 21, 2011, 09:35:40 AM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"

I would ask him what it was that he saw that made him think they are worth that much. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 21, 2011, 11:23:55 AM
I would ask him what it was that he saw that made him think they are worth that much.  

I declined and told him that I thought it was a fair offer considering the titles and condition.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on January 21, 2011, 03:34:55 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 21, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?

they still come up in a std. "wacky packages" search
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 21, 2011, 05:44:09 PM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 21, 2011, 07:44:08 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?

Who searches by category? Just type in wacky packages or I use wack* pack*
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on January 21, 2011, 08:21:35 PM
The only reason that I ever search by category is to see if there are any newly listed items with low buy-it-now prices.  It takes a certain amount of time for new items to show up in keyword searches but they show up immediately if you search by category.

I keep hoping to find that Ratz or Cracked Animals with a $9.99 buy-it-now price!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 22, 2011, 04:31:53 AM
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL

Maybe he saw some Ludlows go high, and figured these must worth even more, since the backs aren't marked up with those silly camels.....  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 22, 2011, 07:25:59 AM
The only reason that I ever search by category is to see if there are any newly listed items with low buy-it-now prices.  It takes a certain amount of time for new items to show up in keyword searches but they show up immediately if you search by category.


Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 22, 2011, 07:29:21 AM
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL

You're not that far off because of the condition of them.  His # is way too high. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on January 22, 2011, 01:49:20 PM
Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!

I serch the same way with -bandz and also -sonic to not get the Sonic Wacky Pack items!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2011, 05:32:55 PM
Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!

I do my searches that way too. But do you really put the asterisk's in there too? I just type in wacky packages or wackys. I never heard of what Busted said about the items showing up on the specific catagory 1st before the general search, but it seems to make sense. But now the cat is out of the bag !  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on January 22, 2011, 08:06:42 PM
I do my searches that way too. But do you really put the asterisk's in there too? I just type in wacky packages or wackys. I never heard of what Busted said about the items showing up on the specific catagory 1st before the general search, but it seems to make sense. But now the cat is out of the bag !  :o

I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 22, 2011, 09:20:47 PM
I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.
hmmm.i just don't see the need for these trix...i just tried a bunch of these vaiations and it don't matter
I do searches of packs and packages and I cover all catagory's,not just trading cards
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
hmmm.i just don't see the need for these trix...i just tried a bunch of these vaiations and it don't matter
I do searches of packs and packages and I cover all catagory's,not just trading cards

Right, that's what I do. Type into the top search box for all catagories, but I think it is just a time saver because appearently the asterisk covers all of the variables.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 23, 2011, 08:17:32 AM
I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.

Me too, I missed a "wackie" item I needed once that sold for about a hundred dollars less than it was worth, and since then I use the * !!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on January 23, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
Me too, I missed a "wackie" item I needed once that sold for about a hundred dollars less than it was worth, and since then I use the * !!

That's why I use the * way to search too - I have gotten a few rare items for a relatively low price because of misspelling Wacky as Wackey.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 23, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
"wack* pack* -bandz" is the best way to search.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 23, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
I just don't get how using * helps?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 23, 2011, 05:29:26 PM
I just don't get how using * helps?
the * is a wild card, so any letter or combination of letters from that character onwards will all show up in a search.
if you search with "wacky", you will only find wacky
but if you search with "wack*", you will find
wacky
wackie
wackypack
wackey
etc., etc.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 23, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
the * is a wild card, so any letter or combination of letters from that character onwards will all show up in a search.
if you search with "wacky", you will only find wacky
but if you search with "wack*", you will find
wacky
wackie
wackypack
wackey
etc., etc.

ahh i see,,never knew about this wild card thing
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 24, 2011, 06:53:51 AM
ahh i see,,never knew about this wild card thing

That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on January 24, 2011, 07:54:23 AM
                                   {quoting author=Dr Popper link=topic=84}
That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   
           Tricks and Tips........... I am Trickz .......Colorful Posting
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 24, 2011, 05:48:55 PM
That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   

Good info.!!! I tried it for the first time today and see why you also need to add the -bandz thing. Eraser craze? - Definately a rubber band craze.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 25, 2011, 07:15:34 AM
Good info.!!! I tried it for the first time today and see why you also need to add the -bandz thing. Eraser craze? - Definately a rubber band craze.

I know, those darn bands have been mixing in with my searches for several months now.  Hopefully the craze dies off soon!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 25, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-WACKY-PACKS-PAUL-MAUL-WHITE-BACK-PSA-/200569060045?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb2d8facd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 25, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?


but how many are graded at a 1.5? population of 1, baby!! how rare is that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 25, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
this posting is too funny...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-re-stuck-rare-/330523173270?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4cf4b76196

he did enough homework to know about the cease and desist letters, but not enough to know that "restucks" are worthless? 

"But the sticker itself is in near mint condition"...  he says ! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 25, 2011, 06:43:06 PM
this posting is too funny...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-re-stuck-rare-/330523173270?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4cf4b76196

he did enough homework to know about the cease and desist letters, but not enough to know that "restucks" are worthless? 

"But the sticker itself is in near mint condition"...  he says ! LOL
LOL, too funny but nonetheless, someone will buy this, will flip the sticker back around to stick it properly and somewhat loosely and will resell it....watch and see....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 26, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-WACKY-PACKS-PAUL-MAUL-WHITE-BACK-PSA-/200569060045?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb2d8facd


Is this a cloth sticker or something? Weird that it (apparently) has Mutts all over the back in a cloth-sticker-like fashion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 26, 2011, 12:05:35 PM
Is this a cloth sticker or something? Weird that it (apparently) has Mutts all over the back in a cloth-sticker-like fashion.

Someone's 1st series set must have been stacked tightly in a humid environment, so the diecut from Mutts left an image on Paul's back....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on January 26, 2011, 01:18:40 PM
So Paul actually got MAULED
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 28, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
So Paul actually got MAULED

DoH!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 01:34:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-WACKY-PACKAGES-14TH-SERIES-FULL-WAX-BOX-48-BACKS-/250768397910?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a62f61656 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-WACKY-PACKAGES-14TH-SERIES-FULL-WAX-BOX-48-BACKS-/250768397910?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a62f61656)

"Scarce High Number Series"...when it comes to unopened wax boxes, 14th series is certainly the most common (maybe tied for that honor with 10th series). Talk about intellectually dishonest and/or uninformed. I also like the use of the word "unsearched." It makes perfect sense for sports cards, but in this context makes no sense. What is there to search for??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2011, 02:01:43 PM
It's a box of 48 Backs !  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 04, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
"Scarce High Number Series"...when it comes to unopened wax boxes, 14th series is certainly the most common (maybe tied for that honor with 10th series). Talk about intellectually dishonest and/or uninformed. I also like the use of the word "unsearched." It makes perfect sense for sports cards, but in this context makes no sense. What is there to search for??
reads like they are just applying baseball card buzzwords to a box of wackys, not knowing any better or else trying to fool someone. and does "unseached" mean something different than "unsearched"?

And I truly love how they guarantee the box is unopened, and then include a picture of the box opened up...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 04, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
reads like they are just applying baseball card buzzwords to a box of wackys, not knowing any better or else trying to fool someone. and does "unseached" mean something different than "unsearched"?

And I truly love how they guarantee the box is unopened, and then include a picture of the box opened up...
If there is an exact equal  number of all ad variations then I would believe it is a box filled with its true original contents.  Many full boxes in the market are pieced together.  To some there is no difference between a box filled with 48 packs and a box with its original 48 packs, to others there is a big difference.  I sold two 10th boxes with pupsi showing on at least one pack with perfect pack collation(add ads equally represented) to Hal Steinbrenner(yes the Yankee Steinbrenner).  Those boxes came from a sports card dealer whose place was stocked top to bottom with unopen boxes of 1970s stuff(mostly sports cards).  In the miscellaneous pile of single 10th packs that he had that I still own, I have a pack with Pupsi showing.  I guess I should kill that pack some day and get the Pupsi graded but there is something cool about keeping it in its pack so I haven't been tempted to kill it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 04, 2011, 03:42:39 PM
I can't believe it sold for $1400.  That is crazy.  I would guess its true value is around $850 - $900.  I hope he doesn't plan on selling it anytime soon, I doubt there is anyone else willing to pay that much for it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 04, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
I can't believe it sold for $1400.  That is crazy.  I would guess its true value is around $850 - $900.  I hope he doesn't plan on selling it anytime soon, I doubt there is anyone else willing to pay that much for it.

I know who bought them,,,he'll be sending them all to psa is my guess
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
I know who bought them,,,he'll be sending them all to psa is my guess

To each his own, but it doesn't sound like a good buy to me. Let's say they are all PSA graded at 8 or better. Where is the market for 48 PSA graded 14th series packs? To be sold individually? Or do you mean cracking the packs and submitting the stickers to PSA? That's a tremendous crapshoot, they may all be warped for all we know. No matter how you slice it, even in the wacky heyday of the mid 2000's a 14th series box rarely sold for over $1000. This is way too high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 04, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
To each his own, but it doesn't sound like a good buy to me. Let's say they are all PSA graded at 8 or better. Where is the market for 48 PSA graded 14th series packs? To be sold individually? Or do you mean cracking the packs and submitting the stickers to PSA? That's a tremendous crapshoot, they may all be warped for all we know. No matter how you slice it, even in the wacky heyday of the mid 2000's a 14th series box rarely sold for over $1000. This is way too high.


I would tend to agree but i'm sure he'll pull cards and send them in,,maybe keep a few packs as well
his PSA standing is quite high last time I looked and money is usually no object when it comes to taking a chance on finding possible prime pack fresh cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
I would tend to agree but i'm sure he'll pull cards and send them in,,maybe keep a few packs as well
his PSA standing is quite high last time I looked and money is usually no object when it comes to taking a chance on finding possible prime pack fresh cards.

With wackys, I've had one really positive experience with opening packs to get high quality stickers. Most of the time, even if the packs look very high grade, there are issues from severe tanning to warping to dinged corners to poor centering. Paying a lot for unopened wacky material to harvest high grade cards is very risky, much more so than with sports cards, where opening a rack pack is an almost sure score of structurally super-nice cards.

But best of luck to him!
 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on February 09, 2011, 11:47:17 AM
A bit steep for an Irish pack. I bought one of these last year for $15:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250770735712&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 12, 2011, 11:38:21 AM
Maybe it's the two lost wacky's or the reverse negatives driving the price up...

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 12, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
Maybe it's the two lost wacky's or the reverse negatives driving the price up...

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b

Wow, that seems way overpriced.  It's not really "driving the price up" though because there aren't any bids.  Probably just someone who doesn't have a clue what they are worth.  Zero feedback too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 13, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
here's a smokin' deal..on a bunch of useless swill  :^)

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 13, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
here's a smokin' deal..on a bunch of useless swill  :^)

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b

...must have been some type of Freudian slip, this line in the description?! Are they serious?

there are many different serious dating to 1979
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 15, 2011, 09:22:38 AM
Opening bid is down to $300 after it didn't sell for $350 2x. BIN remains at $500

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260738154106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb5347e7a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 15, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Opening bid is down to $300 after it didn't sell for $350 2x. BIN remains at $500

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260738154106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb5347e7a

 :o I say jump on it!,,could be rare card in there  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 15, 2011, 03:12:47 PM

A tad over-priced?....................


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Cracked-Animals-PSA-6-/370484709644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56429c090c
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 15, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
A tad over-priced?....................
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 15, 2011, 08:18:04 PM
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...

I'd offer 5 Wacky Trucks for it.   ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 15, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 15, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 16, 2011, 02:56:42 AM
that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123

Another award winning description.

That the white backs are so brown the seller makes a point of telling us they aren't tanbacks contrasts with the fact the seller had the sheet professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners. Good thing they have nice corners. Just don't turn them over and notice the white backs are brown. I'm not sure this set will satisfy any so called "completist" the seller is referring to.

Offered here is a very rare 1975 wacky packages complete series 13 WHITEBACK set.  There are only a few complete sets known to exist in the hobby.  Single cards from this set have sold for close to $200 each in past years.  This set was created from an uncut sheet I have had in my collection for years.  I had it professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners.  Unfortunately the uncut sheet wasn't well cared for by the owner before me so the back had faded/stained and had creases which are reflected in the scans provided here.  I 100% guarantee these are series 13 whitebacks and are of the hard whiteback stock even though many look beige.  Tanbacks are much flimsier stock and any wacky pack collector would know this.

This is the perfect set for the completist who wants all variations within the wacky packages run as you many never have the opportunity to get this set.  This can fill that need without having to spend the nearly $6000 that a higher grade set would command.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 16, 2011, 03:31:57 AM
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 16, 2011, 05:30:10 AM
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

A seller can ask whatever they want as a strategy, but someone buying a Cracked will most likely do their research and realize how out of whack the price is, so it just makes them look a little foolish as a seller.     
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 09:39:05 AM
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 17, 2011, 10:55:54 AM
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?

I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
Maybe that's the case here.
It is. I wrote him to mention this fact and he responded with a thanks and that he knew nothing about them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 17, 2011, 02:30:15 PM
I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 17, 2011, 03:13:16 PM
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.

jezz man it's just a sticker,,the boarder don't matter,,,you guys are so picky  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 17, 2011, 04:02:41 PM
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 17, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?

True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 05:40:17 PM
Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
IME?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 17, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)

Ya know, this seems like ridiculous behavior on Paypal's part, especially in light of their new "Pay Later" plan. I am getting really tired of being barraged by their "commercials" each time I log into eBay or Paypal. Talk about setting some one up for a fall later.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 17, 2011, 08:31:05 PM
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
No problem dude.  I have spent years ripping off ebay and paypal of fees with gift transactions on paypal and private deals on ebay.  If you see an item that I had listed on ebay and it didn't sell but didn't get relisted, you can be pretty sure I sold it privately cutting ebay out of the deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 17, 2011, 09:53:08 PM
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 10:24:10 AM
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
Can you please stop breezing over series of posts before you make a comment?  Jean Nutty called it award winning.  I happened to be quoting someone else in my response but my question was obviously geared to all who were partaking in the discussion. You seem to be suggesting that nobody called the description "award winning" all while you made the extra effort to paraphrase the $300 post. Take the three milliseconds to go back and see that, Jean Nutty got it, somehow you missed it.  

These are legit 13th whitebacks hence they are rare, poor condition maybe but this doesn't change the definition of what they are.  The fronts and corners are in great shape, many of the backs are not.  If a completist wants all sets possible, they can spend the $3000-$5000 if they are lucky enough to find any 13th white sets for sale or they can buy my set.  IF they own my set, they will in fact own a 13th white set and hence it will complete that need. Is that really so difficult for you to understand?  Seems it is since you didn't even read the posts leading up to this correctly.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 18, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.

We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 11:59:16 AM
We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 18, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P

Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 19, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.
You don't need to read 300 posts but you sure could read all of the new posts in a thread especially if you are about to post a comment that suggests I made a reference to something that was never posted.  Your choices are to continue to rationalize your hurried and careless approach as i see it has carried over into other threads where others have called you out or you can slow down, take a breath and try to be a tad more thorough.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on February 28, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 01, 2011, 07:00:25 AM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2011, 07:32:27 AM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set.
Sorry, but I don't. Based on the auction title and description, it's obvious the seller never bothered to really figure out what they had and just put a random number on it. What they get is what they get; their fault. And, actually, the chances are they're thrilled they got $150 for a few little pieces of cardboard.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 01, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.

It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 01, 2011, 07:42:50 PM
It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on March 01, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
He may have shown that one because it's the only one in questionable condition.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 02, 2011, 03:35:32 AM
Things that make you go hmmmm....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 02, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
As the description states...This is for real no joke.

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-1-148-cards-/270713750814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07cc051e
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 02, 2011, 08:53:01 AM
Things that make you go hmmmm....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
All I can say about that is that is one expensive binder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 02, 2011, 08:59:22 AM
As the description states...This is for real no joke.

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-1-148-cards-/270713750814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07cc051e
I can't argue that it's real, but I think the joke part is debatable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 08, 2011, 08:31:45 PM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
Looks like the seller welched and relisted the lot. I'd say the buyer let him off to easy as winning an ebay auction is a binding contract and this seller is listing an item that could go into litigation.  I would screw the seller if I were the buyer and spend the $15 to file small claims against him.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Package-Cards-w-Tan-back-stickys-/120694539996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19f486dc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 09, 2011, 08:37:45 AM
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 09, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'

Man, that stinks!  I wonder if eBay offers any assistance since they claim it is a legally binding contract, or is that just something they state to try to keep this sort of thing from happening.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 03, 2011, 07:46:04 AM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 03, 2011, 09:27:23 AM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

Haha, that's why there are sellers who ask crazy prices, because there are actually buyers out there who will pay it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 03, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
FOUL?  only fools call it foul
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 29, 2011, 07:16:16 AM
Only $20 for a pile of garbage! You can't beat that deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-FIFTY-OPENED-BLUE-ENVELOPES-/160580268556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256354720c
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 29, 2011, 07:49:21 AM
Okay, before I stick my foot in my mouth... the eBay item linked below is just a home-made item(s), right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185 (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 29, 2011, 08:21:47 AM
Okay, before I stick my foot in my mouth... the eBay item linked below is just a home-made item(s), right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185 (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185)

Yep, seller is either clueless or worse.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on April 29, 2011, 11:07:29 AM
Only $20 for a pile of garbage! You can't beat that deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-FIFTY-OPENED-BLUE-ENVELOPES-/160580268556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256354720c

Dude, that seller is the woman that buys all the color sketches...she's dumping her junk...i guess..times must be tough!! :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 29, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
These look like some pretty fair prices for OLDS1 sketches - NOT!

http://shop.ebay.com/collectingconcepts/m.html?_nkw=wacky+packages&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1311
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 30, 2011, 07:51:18 AM
These look like some pretty fair prices for OLDS1 sketches - NOT!

http://shop.ebay.com/collectingconcepts/m.html?_nkw=wacky+packages&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1311

Somebody wasted a lot of time listing those.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2011, 09:31:23 PM
Somebody wasted a lot of time listing those.
Don't all of these have "best offer" too?  How does that equate to waste of time?  I always list things high, take offers and most often screw ebay of fees by working out private deals.  Been doing it for years.  I hope this seller does the same.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 02, 2011, 05:57:15 AM
Don't all of these have "best offer" too?  How does that equate to waste of time?  I always list things high, take offers and most often screw ebay of fees by working out private deals.  Been doing it for years.  I hope this seller does the same.

That's true but this seller's prices are so far out of whack I doubt he'll get any offers.  If I see an item I want with a "or best offer" but the price is 5x market, I don't put an offer in because 99% of the time the seller is insulted by it. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 02, 2011, 08:14:40 AM
That's true but this seller's prices are so far out of whack I doubt he'll get any offers.  If I see an item I want with a "or best offer" but the price is 5x market, I don't put an offer in because 99% of the time the seller is insulted by it. 
however that 1% of the time it could be after he listed it for the 3rd 30 day segment and just wants them gone and you just happen to be in the right place at the right time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Feetena on May 03, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 03, 2011, 03:22:17 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 


haha, that same seller has listed that exact card several times.  Makes you wonder.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 

Looks like antiquefloyd has a lot of time on his hands to list something like this at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 03, 2011, 06:26:36 PM
UP FOR BID TODAY WE HAVE THIS ORIGINAL WACKY PACK CARD DUXIE.
True enough
CONDITION WISE THIS DECAL HAS NEVER BEEN PULLED OFF ITS ORIGINAL BACKING.
Though it should be
THE WHITE HAS SOME FADING TO IT. IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE.
But, then again, I believe in the Easter Bunny
THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER IS RIPPED.
Yes, it is
IT STILL OVERALL LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION.
Then you need to get your eyes fixed
IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS. THE SIZE IS 3.5" X 2.5".
And it never changed size.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.
Therein lies the problem.
SHIPPING TO CONTINENTAL USA ONLY.
Up yours, Hawaii and Alaska!
THANKS FOR LOOKING
Don't mention it.....no really, don't mention it, it's embarrassing that I bothered.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 04, 2011, 03:20:13 AM
 
UP FOR BID TODAY WE HAVE THIS ORIGINAL WACKY PACK CARD DUXIE.
True enough
CONDITION WISE THIS DECAL HAS NEVER BEEN PULLED OFF ITS ORIGINAL BACKING.
Though it should be
THE WHITE HAS SOME FADING TO IT. IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE.
But, then again, I believe in the Easter Bunny
THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER IS RIPPED.
Yes, it is
IT STILL OVERALL LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION.
Then you need to get your eyes fixed
IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS. THE SIZE IS 3.5" X 2.5".
And it never changed size.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.
Therein lies the problem.
SHIPPING TO CONTINENTAL USA ONLY.
Up yours, Hawaii and Alaska!
THANKS FOR LOOKING
Don't mention it.....no really, don't mention it, it's embarrassing that I bothered.
Too funny... plus at $2.49 shipping, he must package in a screw down for this precious item.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Goodbye^Kitty^ on May 04, 2011, 08:03:20 AM
Too funny... plus at $2.49 shipping, he must package in a screw down for this precious item.

That sure is wacky  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on May 10, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 11, 2011, 05:42:59 AM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234

Should we put in an offer for $15.00? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 11, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234
I was going to post that too. absolutely amazing
"TELL ME THE LAST TIME YOU SEEN AN UN-CUT SHEET LIKE THIS?"
I have never, ever saw a sheet like that offered for $3K. It's true.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 11, 2011, 05:20:20 PM
Hey, if you do pay the full price you do get $60 back in EBay bucks!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 13, 2011, 06:31:35 AM
Talk about lazy and crazy...this seller just copied a Tedjeffrey description of a wacky puzzle, verbatim, onto every one of his wacky auctions...whether it's a puzzle, a sticker, whatever. It sure inspires confidence:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-DUMB-AND-CRAZY-SALT-NM-/290565287800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a70a6f78
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on May 13, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
                                      Check my feedback rating and bid with confidence
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 15, 2011, 11:35:29 AM
I feel bad for people who have ebay as their only source:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-1974-Wacky-Packages-10th-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-/150604959545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2310c14f39

I picked up 6 perfect packs just like this yesterday for $18 apiece, could have had 15 more. All people have to do is visit this forum.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on May 17, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
Hey, if you do pay the full price you do get $60 back in EBay bucks!

Wow - 50% off:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360367662010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e79623ba
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 24, 2011, 10:50:49 PM
Really?   

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-POSTER-COLOR-/220768722388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3366d75dd4
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on May 25, 2011, 03:31:57 PM
Really?   

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-POSTER-COLOR-/220768722388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3366d75dd4

But it's a "very rare collectors item".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 26, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
Really Really???


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-2-Brand-New-Box-SEALED-/270751860476?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0a1186fc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on May 26, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Newbies make me laugh  :^)
Check out these 3 auctions and look at the number of bids and history on each card.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350464423551&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341680956&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341178338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN

WOW..he really wanted these  :o

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 27, 2011, 05:59:35 AM
Newbies make me laugh  :^)
Check out these 3 auctions and look at the number of bids and history on each card.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350464423551&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341680956&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341178338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN

WOW..he really wanted these  :o


Wow.  Maybe he's on to something though.  He's 3 for 3 with that technique! 

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 27, 2011, 06:04:53 AM
Wow.  Maybe he's on to something though.  He's 3 for 3 with that technique! 


I lost a few auctions to this guy before.  he bids in .01 cent increments.  It was always on 1967 series cards also.  I knew the seller of the batch that I lost.  After he wins he takes a couple of weeks to pay but he did pay.  If he is bidding on an auction that you want. DO NOT BID until the last second.  If you are selling make sure you let him know about your auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 27, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
I lost a few auctions to this guy before.  he bids in .01 cent increments.  It was always on 1967 series cards also.  I knew the seller of the batch that I lost.  After he wins he takes a couple of weeks to pay but he did pay.  If he is bidding on an auction that you want. DO NOT BID until the last second.  If you are selling make sure you let him know about your auction.

What am I missing? What's the sense of all the teeny tiny bids?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 27, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
What am I missing? What's the sense of all the teeny tiny bids?
wish I could figure that out I guess its good for the buyer, but as for him maybe no one explained to him how Ebay works?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 27, 2011, 05:20:06 PM
wish I could figure that out I guess its good for the buyer, but as for him maybe no one explained to him how Ebay works?

He probably just keeps upping his bid slightly until he reaches the highest bidder status.  Maybe he doesn't realize it won't automatically go to his max bid, so he thinks he saving money. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on May 27, 2011, 07:52:29 PM
He probably just keeps upping his bid slightly until he reaches the highest bidder status.  Maybe he doesn't realize it won't automatically go to his max bid, so he thinks he saving money. 

hence the term "newbie"  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 31, 2011, 04:09:35 AM
Nice little markup on this item...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 31, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
Nice little markup on this item...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922)

But you get all three variations!  Seriously though, I guess that this represents the only three varieties of TRU blister packs that were made?  These are the only combinations that I ever saw in the store.  Were there any others that anyone knows of?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 31, 2011, 10:02:54 AM
But you get all three variations!  Seriously though, I guess that this represents the only three varieties of TRU blister packs that were made?  These are the only combinations that I ever saw in the store.  Were there any others that anyone knows of?

Those are the only three variations I encountered in the wild but probably only saw 12 or so total blisters at TRU.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 02, 2011, 07:26:14 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-SERIES-1-16-BOXES-/190540807390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d1dfcde


Only double what Greg is charging for these on his page.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 02, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
This struck me as odd and nuts in a way: 24 of them? Someone really liked that one!
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Cloth-Weakies-Stickers-/300453765325?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f470a0cd

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 05:50:37 AM
This struck me as odd and nuts in a way: 24 of them? Someone really liked that one!
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Cloth-Weakies-Stickers-/300453765325?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f470a0cd


I've seen that auction several times over the past couple years.  it's really bizarre.  First of all who would want that many of the same title?  It's no wonder he can't sell them.  And how the heck did someone get so many of the same title?  It looks like a sheet of Weakies was cut-up!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 03, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-SERIES-1-16-BOXES-/190540807390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d1dfcde


Only double what Greg is charging for these on his page.
Are these sheets authorized reproductions of topps licensed images?  Turbo has a right to make a profit if he wants, just wondering if greg appreciates that they are being advertised on ebay to get Topps attention to them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 10:51:30 AM
Are these sheets authorized reproductions of topps licensed images?  Turbo has a right to make a profit if he wants, just wondering if greg appreciates that they are being advertised on ebay to get Topps attention to them.

I think Greg sold them to Shawn (Turbo).  I would assume Greg knows that he would sell them on ebay but I can't say for certain. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 03, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
I think Greg sold them to Shawn (Turbo).  I would assume Greg knows that he would sell them on ebay but I can't say for certain. 

I didn't even know about them until you posted about the auction. I'm sure there are quite a few collectors that don't know about those either.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
I didn't even know about them until you posted about the auction. I'm sure there are quite a few collectors that don't know about those either.

I did the printing of them, and I had 3 of them rolled up to take home with me, and when I got out of the car I tried to carry too much stuff in one trip and crimped the roll so all 3 are ruined.  Now I have none! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 06, 2011, 04:47:11 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 06, 2011, 05:32:03 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).
I think this seller sold it already a few weeks ago for 1200.  I believe this same charade with a mysterious newly created id whose first item for sale was a redache played out a year or so ago too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 06, 2011, 05:53:12 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).

I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on June 06, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.

Whats really happening with this auction is that the seller is going to feel out the highest "Best Offer" prices and do a deal off e-bay.

Often time sellers post their goods for stupid high prices that no-body will buy, just to do their deals from the contact seller messages they receive from serious interest who are willing to pay what they seller might really consider.

My thoughts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 06, 2011, 08:01:05 PM
I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.
He just got his negative for welching on selling the bandache first time around.  If I were that buyer, I would take him to court as ebay auctions are binding contracts.  Ironically the person who got screwed uses "band-ache" as his ebay id which many people mistakenly think is me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 06, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
He just got his negative for welching on selling the bandache first time around.  If I were that buyer, I would take him to court as ebay auctions are binding contracts.  Ironically the person who got screwed uses "band-ache" as his ebay id which many people mistakenly think is me.

His next auction will probably be a one of a kind, 'never before seen' red ludlow cracked animals 1967 diecut unpunched and unstuck. He'll say Topps made one of these by mistake and thought they threw it away, but I pulled it out that trash and kept it until today, when I decided to put it up on e-bay.

Seriously, why would anyone fire all of their guns at once when they have 0 credibility on the feedback score? Iiii-yahy-yhiii
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on June 06, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
Sorry didn't pay attention to the zero feedback.

This clown is a Clown.

Whoever doesn't buy this can always item significantly not as described when the back is false.

You never know though. E-bay is so tight anymore , easily granting refunds. Why would you bother unless you had the goods.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 06, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
I think this seller sold it already a few weeks ago for 1200.  I believe this same charade with a mysterious newly created id whose first item for sale was a redache played out a year or so ago too.


2 things, how did this clown get his feedback knocked back to 0? And 2nd,  from the first auction--"there is a very small crease on the left top corner, the colors are vivid and bright, there is a small stain on the back of the sticker. 2nd auction--"it’s in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips."

same card? or does this guy have a stack of them? or did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 07, 2011, 05:41:52 AM

 
did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?

LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 07, 2011, 01:37:17 PM

2 things, how did this clown get his feedback knocked back to 0? And 2nd,  from the first auction--"there is a very small crease on the left top corner, the colors are vivid and bright, there is a small stain on the back of the sticker. 2nd auction--"it’s in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips."

same card? or does this guy have a stack of them? or did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?
As I already mentioned, he received a negative feedback for welching the first time he "sold" this redache so that brings his feedback to 0.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crazy Zoo Keeper on June 07, 2011, 10:04:36 PM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 08, 2011, 05:40:21 AM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?

Wow, that's solid circumstantial evidence that they are all fakes.  Well, buyer beware I guess.  

This card could be bought by an honest seller, and then years later end up on ebay looking like the real deal.  Not good for the hobby.  I'm going to question this guy about them. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 08, 2011, 05:42:42 AM
Nice catch. I didn't even notice he had other auctions up, but I did notice that the back of the Band-Ache just doesn't look right for a 1st series ludlow. I'm not enough of a ludlow expert to be sure, but it just looks like a 2nd ludlow back to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 08, 2011, 05:55:13 AM
I'm kind of wondering how he has both the front and back shown in what appears to be the same pic.  Looks like he's using the same back in all the scans with the different titles.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 08, 2011, 06:00:43 AM
Nice catch. I didn't even notice he had other auctions up, but I did notice that the back of the Band-Ache just doesn't look right for a 1st series ludlow. I'm not enough of a ludlow expert to be sure, but it just looks like a 2nd ludlow back to me.

After doing some research I retract this statement. My recollection was that the pinkish backs were mostly only 2nds, but that appears to be false.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 08, 2011, 07:15:27 AM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?
I wrote these off as fake when he first sold the Band-ache a couple of weeks ago.  This is probably just a new ebay id for an old crook in the hobby.  I am fairly certain one of the previous rounds of trying to sell fake luds, this person's first auction was also a red-ache and the story was that it was an estate find....really?  What are the odds of finding a red-ache in an estate find and that is your first ebay auction you have ever run?

Anyone have the seller's contact info?  I wrote to Rondell who won the Lavirus from him hoping to get some info.  Maybe it will turn out the seller was just lazy and reused the back of one title but everything still smells bad here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 09, 2011, 10:52:09 AM
I'm kind of wondering how he has both the front and back shown in what appears to be the same pic.  Looks like he's using the same back in all the scans with the different titles.

Here was his response to me when I questioned him about having the same backs.............

"What happened was when I scanned the image of the wacky's I did not think the backing would matter therefore I used the card for all of them so yes you are correct but I did post new and clearer images to fit this item so that is what you will be getting".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 09, 2011, 10:54:52 AM

And here was his response when I questioned why he had negative feedback and was listing it again................


"What happened was there was a discrepancy when I listed the item with the price and I tried to explain that to the buyer but he was disgruntled over my mistake when I listed it, people do make mistakes and I obviously did here but I am open to offers to, maybe I wont get 12,000 dollars for it but that doesn?t stop you from making an offer on something that you may want that I have. Thanks for your time to write to me".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 09, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
Here was his response to me when I questioned him about having the same backs.............

"What happened was when I scanned the image of the wacky's I did not think the backing would matter therefore I used the card for all of them so yes you are correct but I did post new and clearer images to fit this item so that is what you will be getting".

So he didn't think it would matter if to the buyer if it was a "full camel" or not?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 09, 2011, 12:34:42 PM
So he didn't think it would matter if to the buyer if it was a "full camel" or not?

lol

At least the adhesive is still enacted.

. . . it’s in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips.  

Does that qualify as a Freudian slip?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 10, 2011, 09:31:40 PM
And here was his response when I questioned why he had negative feedback and was listing it again................


"What happened was there was a discrepancy when I listed the item with the price and I tried to explain that to the buyer but he was disgruntled over my mistake when I listed it, people do make mistakes and I obviously did here but I am open to offers to, maybe I wont get 12,000 dollars for it but that doesn?t stop you from making an offer on something that you may want that I have. Thanks for your time to write to me".
I traded emails with Rondell who won the Larvius lud and Rondell says the back of his lud is different than the scans to it is clear this seller was too lazy to scan the backs of the actual cards.  This doesn't change the fact that the seller welched on this ebay auction to sell the red-ache first time around and that it is very interesting that the first items a brand new ebayer has happens to be series 1 red ludlows.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 12, 2011, 07:09:30 AM

I can't say I've ever seen this before....................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 12, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
That is too funny!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on June 12, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
I can't say I've ever seen this before....................
It's a "used" card? What did he use it for? Yikes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: hurricanes on June 12, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Interessting profit motive.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 14, 2011, 12:22:49 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 14, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292
so is this one the only known sealed copy, or is this the second one?
if it's the second, then it's just swill.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 14, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292


Who searches eBay for Beatles albums. They're on iTunes now...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on June 15, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
Perhaps some of these sellers are not nuts but extremely optimistic. Some of the prices certain individuals are hoping to get border on the line of insanity.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 11, 2011, 10:57:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKS-VINTAGE-1979-CARDS-COMPLETE-SET-MINTY-/190554111108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5de8fc84


Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on July 11, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKS-VINTAGE-1979-CARDS-COMPLETE-SET-MINTY-/190554111108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5de8fc84


Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?

Ah, more used stickers up for bid!

Uncle Bill’s Fishing Gear should probably stick to selling rubber worms.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 11, 2011, 04:47:35 PM
Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?
But, that's three complete puzzles...and they DO look quite minty.... lol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 11, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
But, that's three complete puzzles...and they DO look quite minty.... lol.

Oh, at least now I understand what he meant by complete sets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 13, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 13, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed
Oh, and in case you forgot, the stickers are excellent, but the border that has the manufacturer's info on it is gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 13, 2011, 04:33:40 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed

There're not even NM. Look at the pictures. The cards are all bent. He must mean just the stickers are NM...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 13, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
There're not even NM. Look at the pictures. The cards are all bent. He must mean just the stickers are NM...LOL
man you guys are harsh. ;)
he says they are just "excellent condition" in the description.
I'm sure that the NM in the headline was just a typo.
just like that $49.99 starting price is surely a typo as well...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 21, 2011, 11:06:24 PM
All the shit she sells for pennys...and then theres this...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-SKETCH-SIMKO-GURGGLE-/160622709995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565dc0ceb
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2011, 06:41:45 AM
All the shit she sells for pennys...and then theres this...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-SKETCH-SIMKO-GURGGLE-/160622709995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565dc0ceb

I think the days of $100.00 Olds 2 basic sketches are over for sure. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on July 24, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
Who searches eBay for Beatles albums. They're on iTunes now...LOL

Seen Beatles vinyl album in Best Buy recently.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
I didnt know where to put this, so i put it here.   This is off the hook. How the hell do these people do it? Cant there be a way to trip these people up? Better wrappers? A different way to pack them to mix up the packs? What The F#ck is going on here? Why are these people abale to get away with this? Hot packs? C'mon. This goes accross all sport and non-sport cards. This shit has got to stop!!!  I spend way to much money on this stuff the way it is, but now we have to get the picked over swill packs at most retail stores.  

The way i look at it i will prolly never buy a retail pack or box again. Or from any dealers that i dont personaly know. If these assholes are picking hot packs, then for sure they are grabbing the HOT BOXES.  BEWARE ALL BOXES ARE SUBJECT TOO!!


oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-PARALLEL-HOT-PACKS-/280714937507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415bea04a3
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 28, 2011, 06:25:10 PM
I didnt know where to put this, so i put it here.   This is off the hook. How the hell do these people do it? Cant there be a way to trip these people up? Better wrappers? A different way to pack them to mix up the packs? What The F#ck is going on here? Why are these people abale to get away with this? Hot packs? C'mon. This goes accross all sport and non-sport cards. This shit has got to stop!!!  I spend way to much money on this stuff the way it is, but now we have to get the picked over swill packs at most retail stores.  

The way i look at it i will prolly never buy a retail pack or box again. Or from any dealers that i dont personaly know. If these assholes are picking hot packs, then for sure they are grabbing the HOT BOXES.  BEWARE ALL BOXES ARE SUBJECT TOO!!

oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-PARALLEL-HOT-PACKS-/280714937507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415bea04a3

This same seller did this for series 7, and as far as I heard he was very accurate.  I don't know how he does it, but he has some sort of technique for it.


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 28, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
This same seller did this for series 7, and as far as I heard he was very accurate.  I don't know how he does it, but he has some sort of technique for it.
I just opened 6 boxes from the case I ordered of ANS8, After the 1st box, I started keeping track of the non-base cards in each pack and the order out of the box. There is a definite pattern and once I open the first two packs on the left side of the box, I believe I can accurately predict the non-base cards in each pack for the rest of that box. I was very successfull at telling which packs would have magnets, silver foils and tags using this order method only  (no weighing or using a magnet, etc.). There appear to be at least 3 but perhaps 4 box configurations in a case. You can tell which box configuration once you open the first two packs. Each case may be layed out with boxes in the same combination order, I can't say. I think I can also predict which two boxes in a case may have a sketch or gold border from the first two packs and where the sketch or gold border will be in the box.  I have opened 6 of the 8 boxes and have gotten 1 gold border and 1 sketch card. I know one case is a small sample to make these claims but I have a hunch it holds true across cases. More detail laters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 08:12:05 PM
I just opened 6 boxes from the case I ordered of ANS8, After the 1st box, I started keeping track of the non-base cards in each pack and the order out of the box. There is a definite pattern and once I open the first two packs on the left side of the box, I believe I can accurately predict the non-base cards in each pack for the rest of that box. I was very successfull at telling which packs would have magnets, silver foils and tags using this order method only  (no weighing or using a magnet, etc.). There appear to be at least 3 but perhaps 4 box configurations in a case. You can tell which box configuration once you open the first two packs. Each case may be layed out with boxes in the same combination order, I can't say. I think I can also predict which two boxes in a case may have a sketch or gold border from the first two packs and where the sketch or gold border will be in the box.  I have opened 6 of the 8 boxes and have gotten 1 gold border and 1 sketch card. I know one case is a small sample to make these claims but I have a hunch it holds true across cases. More detail laters.


This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 28, 2011, 08:20:15 PM

This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.

I just went through 2 cases of 8 and I can tell you right now there is no way to predict position. There are some packs with just a silver and some packs that have both a silver and a tag.
There are boxes that both cards parallel to each other have the same bonus and there are some boxes that are totally random. There is no consistency with both of my boxes. I started to keep track but after the second box it was completely random. I don't know how he does it because I have tried to molest a pack to see through it but you can't because it faces the front of the wrapper and you can't see through the blue. I have no idea how he does it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 28, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
I just went through 2 cases of 8 and I can tell you right now there is no way to predict position. There are some packs with just a silver and some packs that have both a silver and a tag.
There are boxes that both cards parallel to each other have the same bonus and there are some boxes that are totally random. There is no consistency with both of my boxes. I started to keep track but after the second box it was completely random. I don't know how he does it because I have tried to molest a pack to see through it but you can't because it faces the front of the wrapper and you can't see through the blue. I have no idea how he does it.
I Went ahead and opend the last two boxes a little while ago. I was able to predict the non-base cards in each pack after opening the first two wrappers so I think there is something to it... it least within the case I had. Could be there are different box configurations in different cases but it becomes mind boggling if someone planned it that way. I did have one box of the 8 that was somewhat different than the others and seemed random. I thought at first I had mixed the packs up somehow but was cautious on what I did after the first box. My big mistake was taking the boxes out of the case before marking them in some way because I do not know which box was where in the case. I will try to make more sense of what I scribbled down tomorrow and post some type of summary then.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 08:48:31 PM

This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.

oops again: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-Bunch-Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-Packs-22-/180702607206?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a12b6f766

C'mon who sells 22 packs?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on July 28, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
you guys are missing the obvious,,,it's all a scam and this guy has insider hookups.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 28, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
you guys are missing the obvious,,,it's all a scam and this guy has insider hookups.


He knows something. I can't figure it out if it's true. If he has 50 packs that means it would take you 11 boxes just to pull 50 silver sketches. That's cheaper than buying a case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 01:47:21 PM
He knows something. I can't figure it out if it's true. If he has 50 packs that means it would take you 11 boxes just to pull 50 silver sketches. That's cheaper than buying a case.

Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
The Pattern.... (or PATTERN #1)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Sliver border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Lenticular Tag
Pink border - Movie
repeat from top
-----------------------------------

Okay, hold with me... If I open a box there are two stacks of packs inside. The L-stack (left stack) and the R stack (right stack).  Both stacks repeat this same sequence but the top pack may start with any of the above six combinations shown
and then will follow the pattern from that point down (I will talk about the one box exception below).
   Some notes....
- There does not appear to be any correlation between the L-stack and R-stack (that is one stack does not start where the
   other stack leaves off... both stacks appear to be independent of one another, if that makes sense).
- My sketch card came in one of the Sliver border - Pack to the Future  packs as an extra card
- My gold border card came in one of the Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card.

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE
I did have one box that followed a different sequence than that above. Both stacks of packs in this box followed this sequence...
 ----------------------------------
EXCEPTION Pattern.... (or PATTERN #2)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
SILVER border - Lenticular Tag
repeat at top
-----------------------------------

CONCLUSIONS REACHED:
So there appears to be at least two patterns that the packs can be in, within a stack of packs in a box.
Since I only opened one case, I cannot tell if any boxes can have pattern 1 in one stack and pattern 2 in the other stack...
I did not find any that way. Perhaps there are other patterns but 14 of 16 stacks of packs I went through adhered to Pattern 1 and 2 of 16 stacks adhered to pattern 2. Interesting also that even the sketch and Gold border cards did not disrupt the patterns.  

A little later I will say more on how I think this lets you pick "hot packs" but I think it starts to become obvious.




 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 29, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
great work.
it looks like that 2nd pattern could have possibly just been caused by 2 pink cards getting stuck together and inserted into one pack and throwing things out of kilter. All the ordering of the inserts is the same, just shifted by 1.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 05:21:04 PM
great work.
it looks like that 2nd pattern could have possibly just been caused by 2 pink cards getting stuck together and inserted into one pack and throwing things out of kilter. All the ordering of the inserts is the same, just shifted by 1.
I wondered the same thing as well. Brad mentioned opening packs with SILVER BORDER and tags as well.
So, if you open the first two packs in a stack you will be able to tell where you are in the pattern sequence.
I don't know about others, but my sketch card was in a SILVER BORDER - Future pack as an extra card.

If this holds true most of the time, the Silver Border - Future packs are the "hot packs" and can be pulled
from the boxes without opening. I did not find any pack stacks where the Silver border pack was the first or 2nd
pack. In fact, most of the time, the silver border packs were the forth or fifth pack so you can feel somewhat
confident, when you open the first two packs, to determine where you are in the pattern, that one won't be a silver border (hot pack).

This is my  best guess as how they are pulling the hot-packs.

Since I had only the one case, I have no idea whether box position in a case makes a difference (like are sketch cards located in the same positioned box, etc.). Other than that, I don't see a way to try to find Gold-border hot packs.

Would enjoy hearing anyone else's observations when opening (non bonus) boxes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on July 29, 2011, 06:27:03 PM
Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
The Pattern.... (or PATTERN #1)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Sliver border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Lenticular Tag
Pink border - Movie
repeat from top
-----------------------------------

Okay, hold with me... If I open a box there are two stacks of packs inside. The L-stack (left stack) and the R stack (right stack).  Both stacks repeat this same sequence but the top pack may start with any of the above six combinations shown
and then will follow the pattern from that point down (I will talk about the one box exception below).
   Some notes....
- There does not appear to be any correlation between the L-stack and R-stack (that is one stack does not start where the
   other stack leaves off... both stacks appear to be independent of one another, if that makes sense).
- My sketch card came in one of the Sliver border - Pack to the Future  packs as an extra card
- My gold border card came in one of the Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card.

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE
I did have one box that followed a different sequence than that above. Both stacks of packs in this box followed this sequence...
 ----------------------------------
EXCEPTION Pattern.... (or PATTERN #2)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
SILVER border - Lenticular Tag
repeat at top
-----------------------------------

CONCLUSIONS REACHED:
So there appears to be at least two patterns that the packs can be in, within a stack of packs in a box.
Since I only opened one case, I cannot tell if any boxes can have pattern 1 in one stack and pattern 2 in the other stack...
I did not find any that way. Perhaps there are other patterns but 14 of 16 stacks of packs I went through adhered to Pattern 1 and 2 of 16 stacks adhered to pattern 2. Interesting also that even the sketch and Gold border cards did not disrupt the patterns.  

A little later I will say more on how I think this lets you pick "hot packs" but I think it starts to become obvious.




 


Science experiment WackyPack style! :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 29, 2011, 06:36:44 PM
I wondered the same thing as well. Brad mentioned opening packs with SILVER BORDER and tags as well.
So, if you open the first two packs in a stack you will be able to tell where you are in the pattern sequence.
I don't know about others, but my sketch card was in a SILVER BORDER - Future pack as an extra card.

If this holds true most of the time, the Silver Border - Future packs are the "hot packs" and can be pulled
from the boxes without opening. I did not find any pack stacks where the Silver border pack was the first or 2nd
pack. In fact, most of the time, the silver border packs were the forth or fifth pack so you can feel somewhat
confident, when you open the first two packs, to determine where you are in the pattern, that one won't be a silver border (hot pack).

This is my  best guess as how they are pulling the hot-packs.

Since I had but the one case, I have not idea whether box position in a case makes a difference (like are sketch cards located in the same positioned box, etc.). Other than that, I don't see a way to try to find Gold-border hot packs.

Would enjoy hearing anyone else's observations when opening (non bonus) boxes.

Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.



Or a sketch if it holds true, like mine, that sketches are in silver border packs. Haven't heard from anyone else who pulled a sketch yet, however.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 29, 2011, 09:48:19 PM
Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.



I do believe this guy offered both Gold and Sketch HOT packs for ANS 7.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 30, 2011, 03:21:18 AM
I do believe this guy offered both Glod and Sketch HOT packs for ANS 7.

No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 30, 2011, 05:24:07 AM
No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???

The seller allproductssoldhere  has the following phrasing on his/her listing:

"Each pack is Factory Sealed and Guaranteed to contain a FLASH FOIL Parallel card!
Look for Possible Gold Flash Foil cards!"

http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-HOT-PACKS-Gold-LOT-/270790745867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c62df0b (http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-HOT-PACKS-Gold-LOT-/270790745867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c62df0b)

Very noncommital verbage on the Gold foils. When openening the last two boxes, my son and I
were able to successfully pull what we thought the four packs contain silver foils would be and set to the side. We opened these last and had "questimated" successfully. The down side, its a bit like a magic trick... once you know how they do it, it removes the element of wonder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 30, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???

Yes, he did offer a sketch pack. Of all the other hot packs, thats the one i remember well! Wondering how he did it. I believe he offered it at a buy it now for something like $350 or $400.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
BINGO!!!!!!             http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Sketch-Card-Hot-Pack-/230655903369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b429c689
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 03, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
BINGO!!!!!!             http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Sketch-Card-Hot-Pack-/230655903369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b429c689

How do these guys know? Couldn't you win it and say it didn't have a sketch?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 07:46:02 PM
How do these guys know? Couldn't you win it and say it didn't have a sketch?


Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 03, 2011, 08:06:58 PM

Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.

I've tried to look through the packs but you have to see through the front and it's all blue so you can't see through it. Maybe I need to use a brighter light. I've never tried it in a store.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 08:15:47 PM
I'm 4 for 4 on bag tags just by looking at the thicker packs.  That guy only sells hot packs, and i saw an unopened box of something for auction. How could anyone bid on it knowing he picks the good stuff out. This is what i was talking about a few posts back. These guys not only know the packs but the boxes also. Where is this guys swill??? The other packs from the HOT boxes???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 08:24:32 PM
Check this guy out...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-1-1-Artist-Sketch-TOM-BUNK-/320738424023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aad7ff4d7


Its only my opinion, but i believe that this guys other auctions for hot packs would only contain silver. This guy is picking the sketches out also.  HOW TOPPS??? HOW   This shit has got to stop!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 03, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
It's not something low-tech like the weight of a pack? Something that would differ on a sensitive digital scale (like fractions of a gram)?


Or perhaps if someone got to the gravity feed when they were still stacked (undisturbed) and they knew the magic fill pattern.

I for one (as I mentioned before) am a big fan of randomization, at least to the point of randomizing at the case level. This would prevent the problem.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 04, 2011, 12:58:11 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 04, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff

Guess not... its already $102.51 when I looked this morning at 6am Eastern.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 04, 2011, 05:54:55 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff

I've noticed some people put in small bids on stuff they like. This way they can follow the auction through the my bids section of eBay. You can just watch an auction but then you have to look at 2 places all the time so I suspect some people think this route is easier.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2011, 05:58:42 AM
I've noticed some people put in small bids on stuff they like. This way they can follow the auction through the my bids section of eBay. You can just watch an auction but then you have to look at 2 places all the time so I suspect some people think this route is easier.

I've also been inclined to put in a nominal bid on something I want just to help discourage the seller from doing a side deal off of ebay.  I know it's no guarantee but it does help with some sellers. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 04, 2011, 06:02:43 AM
I've also been inclined to put in a nominal bid on something I want just to help discourage the seller from doing a side deal off of ebay.  I know it's no guarantee but it does help with some sellers. 
The problem in doing that is the seller has no idea what your actual bid is. If he starts the auction at $.99 it will only show your bid of $.99 so he could pull it regardless.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2011, 06:14:31 AM
The problem in doing that is the seller has no idea what your actual bid is. If he starts the auction at $.99 it will only show your bid of $.99 so he could pull it regardless.

That's true but that isn't really my mindset on it.  I figure other sellers are like me and are more likely to pull down an auction if there are no bids on it.  I personally won't pull an auction down if there are bids on it, but I have done it occasionally if there are no bids.  At least that way if I get emails afterwards asking me what happened to the auction I can say that I didn't think there was much interest because there were no bids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 05, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Bonus-Sticker-Maximum-Security-/160630362227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256650d073
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 05, 2011, 02:53:56 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Bonus-Sticker-Maximum-Security-/160630362227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256650d073
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 05, 2011, 03:57:33 PM
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.
That 23 rated bidder sure wants to see this auction go high....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 05, 2011, 04:56:39 PM
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.

Maybe they think it's the whole box their getting?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: isearch on August 05, 2011, 09:48:42 PM
Sketches are easy to search for you just have to know what to look for. The golds are almost impossible but I hear there is a guy that may have them figured out. Most of the golds come in the same pack as a regular flash foil so that would make that the heavist pack besides magnets and tags.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 06, 2011, 07:36:52 AM
Sketches are easy to search for you just have to know what to look for. The golds are almost impossible but I hear there is a guy that may have them figured out. Most of the golds come in the same pack as a regular flash foil so that would make that the heavist pack besides magnets and tags.
Do tell... what do we have to look for?  I am now running under the guise of "If you can't beat them then join them"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 06, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
Isn't this pricing a tad ambitious?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER-21-/400233933198?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1872383998965108990

Last time I checked these wrappers are worth about $20 max. I guess calling it a 1st series wrapper (rather than a 2nd or 3rd, which it could just as easily be) makes it worth more.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 06, 2011, 09:02:37 AM
Isn't this pricing a tad ambitious?

Last time I checked these wrappers are worth about $20 max. I guess calling it a 1st series wrapper (rather than a 2nd or 3rd, which it could just as easily be) makes it worth more.
I saw that one and also his UK wrapper for $222.
ambitious is a good word for it.
he's willing to take offers though
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Wacky-Packages-UK-1st-Series-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER-nm-/400233935950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2fcd344e#ht_500wt_788
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Do tell... what do we have to look for?  I am now running under the guise of "If you can't beat them then join them"
Need to mow today but its drizzling here in Central Indiana so I had some time to kill.

I didn't weigh packs as I was opening them so did a little experiment. I have a digital postage meter (on the cheap end). Previously, I posted the repeating pattern of 6 packs that I found when opening my boxes. So I weighed the various pack combinations using just the cards, as I have opened all my packs. For each combination shown below, I weighed multiple times using different cards but results where consistant. So here were the results on a cheap postage meter in grams:

   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Magnet combination
   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Lenticular Tag combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination

So the real item of interest is that in the pack I opened with the sketch card... the sketch card was an additional card in one of the 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination. This combination weighs 18 grams.

Unless you were to run into some odd combination that wasn't planned , with something like two magnets in one pack,or 3 extra base cards (which I didn't when opening 8 boxes of packs),  
clearly the heaviest packs should contain a sketch card.  I can see how this helps if you are at home opening packs but is someone really going to take a scale into Walmart or Target? If so, they are more desperate than I.

My gold border card I opened came in one of the 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card. Weight was no different than the normal pack.

Conclusions:
* Sketch cards can be determined by pack weight

* Silver border, tags and magnets can be predicted by the pack content pattern if you know
 where you are at in the pattern (by openening the first two packs in a box stack).

* I have no idea how gold border cards can be predicted. I know where the one I found was in the pattern order. Perhaps a certain box in each case contains one? Don't know. I only have the 1 case/8 box data set to go by. If any benefactor would like to contribute more cases to my research, please feel free to contact me.   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 06, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
Need to mow today but its drizzling here in Central Indiana so I had some time to kill.

I didn't weigh packs as I was opening them so did a little experiment. I have a digital postage meter (on the cheap end). Previously, I posted the repeating pattern of 6 packs that I found when opening my boxes. So I weighed the various pack combinations using just the cards, as I have opened all my packs. For each combination shown below, I weighed multiple times using different cards but results where consistant. So here were the results on a cheap postage meter in grams:

   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Magnet combination
   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Lenticular Tag combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination

So the real item of interest is that in the pack I opened with the sketch card... the sketch card was an additional card in one of the 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination. This combination weighs 18 grams.

Unless you were to run into some odd combination that wasn't planned , with something like two magnets in one pack,or 3 extra base cards (which I didn't when opening 8 boxes of packs),  
clearly the heaviest packs should contain a sketch card.  I can see how this helps if you are at home opening packs but is someone really going to take a scale into Walmart or Target? If so, they are more desperate than I.

My gold border card I opened came in one of the 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card. Weight was no different than the normal pack.

Conclusions:
* Sketch cards can be determined by pack weight

* Silver border, tags and magnets can be predicted by the pack content pattern if you know
 where you are at in the pattern (by openening the first pack in a box stack).

* I have no idea how gold border cards can be predicted. I know where the one I found was in the pattern order. Perhaps a certain box in each case contains one? Don't know. I only have the 1 case/8 box data set to go by. If any benefactor would like to contribute more cases to my research, please feel free to contact me.   ;D


Good work detective!  I wonder if that's the technique that seller used for "hot" sketch packs.  I assumed he had a way to find both golds and sketches using the same technique, but maybe he weighs for the sketches and uses some other method for the golds/flashes.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2011, 07:47:08 PM
Good work detective!  I wonder if that's the technique that seller used for "hot" sketch packs.  I assumed he had a way to find both golds and sketches using the same technique, but maybe he weighs for the sketches and uses some other method for the golds/flashes.



I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 07, 2011, 05:27:28 AM
I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.

I think people looking for a quick profit are searching gravity feeds and pulling out one or two packs to buy and then take home for closer scrutiny.  I probably had zero chance of pulling a sketch out of any of the $200 worth of packs I bought, which annoys the hell out of me.

I don't want to buy individual boxes anymore, since case searchers sell whatever boxes are left in a case after they pull a sketch or gold.  I will no longer buy more than a pack or two just for fun from an open box in a store.  That leaves bonus boxes and blisters, and while I figure those are 'unsearched' at Target, I wouldn't assume that anymore on ebay.

I'm finding this hobby to be less and less fun thanks to all these super scarce inserts, including ANS golds and sketch cards, and some of the crazy stuff with postcard sketch cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 07, 2011, 08:00:30 AM
I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.

If I remember the exchange of emails I had with the seller, he doesn't collect them and even know too much about them, so he's probably just taking the easiest route doing it that way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 07, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
I'm finding this hobby to be less and less fun thanks to all these super scarce inserts, including ANS golds and sketch cards, and some of the crazy stuff with postcard sketch cards.

I've already been there for a while.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 07, 2011, 09:17:49 AM
I've already been there for a while.

I do still love the new Wackys themselves, but the collecting aspect has become a bummer for me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 07, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
Afraid I am with you guys. After ANS7, I am sitting on the sidelines for ANS8 and only collecting the cards I want after-the-fact.

If I see a bonus box at Wal-Mart or Target I will likely but one to get at least one pack "in the wild", but I'm not doing gravity feeds (I feel like they've been searched by expert thieves) and I'm completely ignoring the red/silver/gold borders and sketches this time around. Also for the first time with ANS, I am debating not collecting at least one set of the bonus cards -- will just have to wait and see.

Right now I am really liking the Pack to the Future (especially) and Go to the Movies subsets -- great gags and art (as per another thread), and had to pick up a Cap'n Crud motion card (and will probably get that subset).

The rest can wait for me this time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 10, 2011, 11:39:50 PM
I hate it when people do this....generic listings. how do you ban sellers?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Make-Your-Own-8-10-Shot-Wheels-/260833488481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbae32e61


he put up tons of these. Grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 11, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
I hate it when people do this....generic listings. how do you ban sellers?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Make-Your-Own-8-10-Shot-Wheels-/260833488481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbae32e61


he put up tons of these. Grrrrrrrr

You can make a Saved Search with this kind of information in it.

When you do a search, look at the column on the left and go down to "Sellers". There is a small link that says "Specify Sellers...". This brings up a popup with options -- select the radio button that has the "Exclude"/"Include" dropdown. At that point you can select Exclude and do a comma-delimited list of sellers you want to exclude.

When you're done, be sure to Save Search (it's at the end of the line that describes what you are searching for). You can edit this later if you wish.

You can thus exclude words of items you aren't interested in too, for example if you aren't into "Proof" cards or "T-Shirts" or auctions that have "Parodies" (where they say "like Wackys"). That kind of thing.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 11, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
You can make a Saved Search with this kind of information in it.

When you do a search, look at the column on the left and go down to "Sellers". There is a small link that says "Specify Sellers...". This brings up a popup with options -- select the radio button that has the "Exclude"/"Include" dropdown. At that point you can select Exclude and do a comma-delimited list of sellers you want to exclude.

When you're done, be sure to Save Search (it's at the end of the line that describes what you are searching for). You can edit this later if you wish.

You can thus exclude words of items you aren't interested in too, for example if you aren't into "Proof" cards or "T-Shirts" or auctions that have "Parodies" (where they say "like Wackys"). That kind of thing.

Hope that helps!

Nice piece of info.  I always wondered if there was a way to do that!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Turbo on August 12, 2011, 09:39:37 AM

Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.


I was at a target and there was only 39 packs left in the gravity feed and the 39 packs were thrown in and looked like someone searched them. I thought the person that searched the packs got the 8 silvers and the 9th pack was a gold or sketch. Well I bought the 39 packs anyways and I'm happy I did. I ended up with 6 silvers, 1 Mark Parisi sketch card and 1 #17 gold border. So whoever searched the packs and only bought 9 packs out of the feed only got 2 silvers. So if you see a gravity that doesn't have all the packs and looks like it was searched thru there still could be a gold or sketch or both. I was shocked that from 39 gravity packs that I pulled a sketch and a gold card.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 12, 2011, 12:54:26 PM

I was at a target and there was only 39 packs left in the gravity feed and the 39 packs were thrown in and looked like someone searched them. I thought the person that searched the packs got the 8 silvers and the 9th pack was a gold or sketch. Well I bought the 39 packs anyways and I'm happy I did. I ended up with 6 silvers, 1 Mark Parisi sketch card and 1 #17 gold border. So whoever searched the packs and only bought 9 packs out of the feed only got 2 silvers. So if you see a gravity that doesn't have all the packs and looks like it was searched thru there still could be a gold or sketch or both. I was shocked that from 39 gravity packs that I pulled a sketch and a gold card.



Wow, fantastic luck!  Were the cards moved around in the packs?  The ones I'm seeing have the back two cards slid up high, really to the very top edge of the pack, but separated, and the 6 base cards pushed down to the very bottom of the pack, all pretty much together.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 12, 2011, 01:06:58 PM
Wow, fantastic luck!  Were the cards moved around in the packs?  The ones I'm seeing have the back two cards slid up high, really to the very top edge of the pack, but separated, and the 6 base cards pushed down to the very bottom of the pack, all pretty much together.


This is also what i am seeing. It is much different than kids pulling packs out and shoving them back in. These have been tampered with, a few of the first packs i bought even had a fingernail mark on the pack. The first packs i bought from Wal-mart from the 24 pack feed, 6 packs were missing. There were NO silvers, NO magnets. Does'nt take Sherlock to shit on this one!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 12, 2011, 06:37:55 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 12, 2011, 07:27:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???

The thing is I don't think you can tell a gold from a silver through the wrapper. You just know it's a silver or a gold and the odds of it actually being a gold is a 1:1000
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 16, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Lets play a little game, which one of these doesnt belong?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-PLASTER-PEANUT-/220772021174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b3b6


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-GURGLE-LYNCH-/220772020230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b006


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-MISTER-FAULTY-/380333563986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588da5a052
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:14:51 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???


Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..

PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:17:56 AM
The thing is I don't think you can tell a gold from a silver through the wrapper. You just know it's a silver or a gold and the odds of it actually being a gold is a 1:1000

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!! SO ITS KINDA MISLEADING TO WRITE - GOLD? SKETCH?

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT A SKETCH WILL RESIDE WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT BE - HAS THIS BEEN PROVEN?? CARDGARY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS ONE?

ANYONE PULL A SKETCH WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT RESIDE..NEXT TO A TAG OR MAGENT??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:20:58 AM
Lets play a little game, which one of these doesnt belong?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-PLASTER-PEANUT-/220772021174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b3b6


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-GURGLE-LYNCH-/220772020230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b006


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-MISTER-FAULTY-/380333563986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588da5a052


I AM GONNA GUESS MR. FAULTY?? WHAT DID I WIN BOB??WHAT DID I WIN??

AND WHAT'S WITH THE PRIVATE LISTING CRAP...ITS SO EXCLUSIVE....CARDGARY IS SELLING THE SAME ONES FOR $3-$5...

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 16, 2011, 07:04:22 AM

Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..

PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...

I had one gold border in a case of 8 boxes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 16, 2011, 07:12:00 AM
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!! SO ITS KINDA MISLEADING TO WRITE - GOLD? SKETCH?

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT A SKETCH WILL RESIDE WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT BE - HAS THIS BEEN PROVEN?? CARDGARY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS ONE?

ANYONE PULL A SKETCH WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT RESIDE..NEXT TO A TAG OR MAGENT??

- My sketch card came in one of the "Silver border card - Pack to the Future card" packs as an extra card

- My gold border card came in a pack in the sequence where a  "Pink border card - Movie card" pack
  should have been.  The gold bordered card  replaced the pink border card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on August 16, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
I had one gold border in a case of 8 boxes.

I got two gold borders. One from a hobby box and one from a gravity feed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 11:13:54 AM

Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..



PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...


so GOLD BORDERS FOUND IN:

1. Hobby Boxes - 8 box case
2. Gravity Feeds - Target

Any found in BONUS boxes or Blisters??

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mallomartian on August 17, 2011, 06:52:14 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on August 17, 2011, 07:17:21 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114

I went to 5 Targets last weekend and only found 3 bonus boxes. Seems as though each store only gets two boxes and that's it. I think people are having a hard time finding them so they say f#¢% it and buy them on ebay for higher dollar. I sold one for $16.99 (after the ebay and paypal fees I think I made 3 bucks off of it) and I have another one up for $24.99, the third one is in my collection, for now anyway. I have panicked in the past and bought bonus boxes high on ebay a few times myself....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Zenergizer on August 17, 2011, 07:24:31 AM
The Target I go to had only one, and seems to replenish its supply with one box at a time.

And the cards in there were somewhat curved, as if someone grabbed them with their fist
and "scrunched" them a bit.  Not too serious, but could be better.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 17, 2011, 07:38:00 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114

I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on August 17, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.

9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 17, 2011, 09:41:12 AM
9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.

Don't get it 'bigmuc' selling the non-ltd poster PC7 set = all postcards + poster for $1 + $5 S&H = How does he even make money on that...after ebay and paypal fees and listing fees...seems like he's selling it for free..even if he makes $1 on S&H - lot of work for nothing...crazy...

I have one of those posters for sale if any one needs one... ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 17, 2011, 10:19:53 AM
9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.

Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 17, 2011, 02:00:25 PM
I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.


And a shot of whisky.  Clints prices are off the hook.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 17, 2011, 02:42:40 PM
Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.

Initially I though these would be tough and bought one for $10. Now I believe I have about 10 extras. They are not scarce.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 23, 2011, 01:44:48 PM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 07:17:53 AM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304

He probably just wants to get rid of so many at the lower price and the others sell or keep or open up himself. I've seen this before with sellers listing the same item at a different price. It's either a mistake, a gimmick or just want to blow out some of the extra stock.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 08:00:12 AM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 24, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.

Are Hobby boxes worth more than Retail boxes?? for ANS8?? - and how about ANS7?? - the hobby box had a poster and the retail did not...is one hard to find than the other...anyone?? would think both are the same price...clint has ANS7 Hobby @ $49 and Retail @ $39 what's up with that??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Are Hobby boxes worth more than Retail boxes?? for ANS8?? - and how about ANS7?? - the hobby box had a poster and the retail did not...is one hard to find than the other...anyone?? would think both are the same price...clint has ANS7 Hobby @ $49 and Retail @ $39 what's up with that??

Maybe he's unaware that there is no difference this time around. Or it may be just what I said a few posts ago.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 24, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.

They are different prices because the Hobby box costs $10.00 more from the dealers so he's just passing on the costs.  I think Topps messed up with that because with no poster it doesn't make sense to buy the Hobby boxes.  I bought a Hobby case and if I had known I would have made them all Retail.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
He probably just wants to get rid of so many at the lower price and the others sell or keep or open up himself. I've seen this before with sellers listing the same item at a different price. It's either a mistake, a gimmick or just want to blow out some of the extra stock.

I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 24, 2011, 03:52:39 PM
I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.

I wouldn't buy a box from him at either price for that very reason.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 24, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
I wouldn't buy a box from him at either price for that very reason.

I wouldnt buy any boxes from anyone selling packs or already opened sketches. I've been very lucky with blisters this time, just pulled a gold from a blister. That makes 1 sketch and 1 gold from 111 packs. 39 of which came from a Target suspect of being searched. I didnt get 1 chase from 39 packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.
My target had 6 boxes.  About a 10 days ago. I left them there.  They are now gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 24, 2011, 06:35:40 PM
My target had 6 boxes.  About a 10 days ago. I left them there.  They are now gone.

My Target had 6 bonus boxes as well.  My mom and I bought 2 to open together.  I've got to get back there to see if the others sold yet, and to look for some more bonus blisters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 07:05:30 PM
My Target had 6 bonus boxes as well.  My mom and I bought 2 to open together.  I've got to get back there to see if the others sold yet, and to look for some more bonus blisters.
Mine had like 5 or 6 bonus blisters a week ago.  I left them all behind as I had bought the three I needed a week before to get my B1-B3.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.

Is this theory iron clad? That if you pull a sketch from a case - the rest of the boxes DEFINATELY do not have a sketch?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 07:24:05 PM
Is this theory iron clad? That if you pull a sketch from a case - the rest of the boxes DEFINATELY do not have a sketch?

Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 07:30:48 PM
Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?

I do know the odds are against you to pull another one so why take the chance? Just sell the other boxes and move on. I would rather play the odds.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
I do know the odds are against you to pull another one so why take the chance? Just sell the other boxes and move on. I would rather play the odds.
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.

OK genius, why don't you take a poll to see how many people will follow your rational compared to mine. I don't think you have much of a chance with your collation theory. People don't want to take a bad bet on these. The house is against you. Your obviously not much of a poker player are you. No one would take those odds even though there is a chance the collation could be off by Topps.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 24, 2011, 09:33:55 PM
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 24, 2011, 11:46:51 PM
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.


I think although the collation isn't perfect it's probably a pretty high percentage.  I did pull 2 golds from the same case but I think that was an exception to the rule.  These machines that collate have become very sophisticated and accurate.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 25, 2011, 07:12:54 AM
I think although the collation isn't perfect it's probably a pretty high percentage.  I did pull 2 golds from the same case but I think that was an exception to the rule.  These machines that collate have become very sophisticated and accurate.


So basically, what we are theorizing here is that there is a definate predictable "spot" where the machines will put the sketches/golds and we can predict this because of the newer updated technology within the machining process. I guess the only way to tell would be to litterally place each card in order as you open each pack in order, then after many, many packs or even cases, see if there is a pattern.

If this is true, and according to some "hot pack" sellers on evilbay it is, then we should tell Topps about it so that they can set up their super advanced machinery to be more random with their insertions. I just would like to see this predictability come to an end if it is true.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 25, 2011, 08:23:51 AM
So basically, what we are theorizing here is that there is a definate predictable "spot" where the machines will put the sketches/golds and we can predict this because of the newer updated technology within the machining process. I guess the only way to tell would be to litterally place each card in order as you open each pack in order, then after many, many packs or even cases, see if there is a pattern.

If this is true, and according to some "hot pack" sellers on evilbay it is, then we should tell Topps about it so that they can set up their super advanced machinery to be more random with their insertions. I just would like to see this predictability come to an end if it is true.

When you are opening pack after pack in sequence the silvers are pretty much every 6th pack, so that right there is evidence that they are set to go into an insertion pattern, and it's fairly accurate.  I personally would like to see more randomization, not only because it would deter people from selling "dud" inventory, but it would make it a little more exciting opening packs. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
When you are opening pack after pack in sequence the silvers are pretty much every 6th pack, so that right there is evidence that they are set to go into an insertion pattern, and it's fairly accurate.  I personally would like to see more randomization, not only because it would deter people from selling "dud" inventory, but it would make it a little more exciting opening packs. 
For sure, when you are going through a box and know pretty much what to expect each pack is a little dull. You do know to perk up when you come to what should be a silver border pack. Unless someone has found otherwise, I think the sketches are usually in these packs.

Randomizing seems like it would be a bit of a daunting task in that people collect in different ways. Some expect the collation (odds of finding certain chase items) to hold true within a box (hobby, retail, gravity). While others would expect the collation to hold true across a case. Do you randomize within a box so you odds are consistant within each box, just the pack order randomized?

In all boxes today, there appears to be a 6 pack rotation used in terms of content. How they determine where the golds
and sketches get inserted into this rotation and at what intervals is certainly unknown to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 25, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
For sure, when you are going through a box and know pretty much what to expect each pack is a little dull. You do know to perk up when you come to what should be a silver border pack. Unless someone has found otherwise, I think the sketches are usually in these packs.

Randomizing seems like it would be a bit of a daunting task in that people collect in different ways. Some expect the collation (odds of finding certain chase items) to hold true within a box (hobby, retail, gravity). While others would expect the collation to hold true across a case. Do you randomize within a box so you odds are consistant within each box, just the pack order randomized?

In all boxes today, there appears to be a 6 pack rotation used in terms of content. How they determine where the golds
and sketches get inserted into this rotation and at what intervals is certainly unknown to me.

They should randomize the packs. As long as they truly are putting in the inserts at the stated odds, then really there should be no worries. Too bad if you didn't make the odd's or if you beat the odd's - at least no one would be able to "crack the code" and make things predictable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 10:04:56 AM
The case I got with 8 boxes were all random. I kept track of the first box and card positions but then the second box was totally different. Along with the next one and so forth. I don't think you can say every box will have a silver 6 packs down.
I did connect with a pack searcher on ebay. We exchanged a few emails and he told me how they do it. They are very good at sliding the cards and looking through the wrapper. He said you can do them pretty quickly. The thing to do is take a few packs home and practice. There are also websites for pack searchers and forums. Pack searching doesn't sound like it's going away any time soon. It's pretty sad....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.



Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
The case I got with 8 boxes were all random. I kept track of the first box and card positions but then the second box was totally different. Along with the next one and so forth. I don't think you can say every box will have a silver 6 packs down.
I did connect with a pack searcher on ebay. We exchanged a few emails and he told me how they do it. They are very good at sliding the cards and looking through the wrapper. He said you can do them pretty quickly. The thing to do is take a few packs home and practice. There are also websites for pack searchers and forums. Pack searching doesn't sound like it's going away any time soon. It's pretty sad....

I found that the 6 pack sequence could start at any point in the sequence with the top pack in a box, but then proceeded as expected. Furthermore, the two sides (stacks) in a box were unrelated in terms of where the sequence ended in one stack and begins in the other. You can't say the 6th pack down will have a silver. You can say that each 7th pack in a stack will contain a silver after the first one that contains a silver. In my previous posts, thats why I indicated once you know where you are in the sequence (which requires you open two consecutive packs), you know what follows.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.

Bandaches response:
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?

For those who have completely lost track of the discussion I am having with Brad, see the above.......Brad makes no mention of his concern about predictable collation, he purely claimed that opening another pack was a bad idea due to the odds.....odds which were really no different than opening any other pack.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.

I'm stating the odds of finding 2 sketches in a case are very slim so why play those type of odds. Scot already pointed out 3 cases that had only one gold and one sketch. Why would you think there would be another one in the same case? That is what I'm getting at. Find the gold and sketch and sell the other boxes in the case. Nothing more to it then that!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
I'm stating the odds of finding 2 sketches in a case are very slim so why play those type of odds. Scot already pointed out 3 cases that had only one gold and one sketch. Why would you think there would be another one in the same case? That is what I'm getting at. Find the gold and sketch and sell the other boxes in the case. Nothing more to it then that!
This is ONLY because of predictable collation and NOT because of odds!  Not sure why you are finding that so hard to understand.  The funny part is that if Topps found a way to truly randomize collation, you would still believe what you are saying that once you pull a gold, there is more likely a gold in a box from another case than the case you just pulled a box and that would be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.

I think I did miss your point upon first reading.

I shouldn't put words in Brad's mouth but I read his use of the terms "odds" as being the odds of getting each chase card type that are listed on the wrappers/blister backs. I see now where you were coming from and understand the point you were making.

I thought Brad was indicating that Topps says the odds of getting a sketch card is 1 in 973 packs. A case contains 192 packs so if you are opening a case and get a sketch in the first box, there is little hope of getting another sketch in this case given we know that the boxes are not randomly packed.

I think there is some truth in this and guess this is were some unopened boxes on eBay come from. They are the unopened boxes left after someone has hit the jackpot  from a case with a sketch card and they stop opening at that point. This is why I would avoid buying boxes on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
This is ONLY because of predictable collation and NOT because of odds!  Not sure why you are finding that so hard to understand.  The funny part is that if Topps found a way to truly randomize collation, you would still believe what you are saying that once you pull a gold, there is more likely a gold in a box from another case than the case you just pulled a box and that would be completely wrong.


I also predict the odds of this conversation continuing is NONE!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
I think I did miss your point upon first reading.

I shouldn't put words in Brad's mouth but I read his use of the terms "odds" as being the odds of getting each chase card type that are listed on the wrappers/blister backs. I see now where you were coming from and understand the point you were making.

I thought Brad was indicating that Topps says the odds of getting a sketch card is 1 in 973 packs. A case contains 192 packs so if you are opening a case and get a sketch in the first box, there is little hope of getting another sketch in this case given we know that the boxes are not randomly packed.

I think there is some truth in this and guess this is were some unopened boxes on eBay come from. They are the unopened boxes left after someone has hit the jackpot  from a case with a sketch card and they stop opening at that point. This is why I would avoid buying boxes on eBay.

That is exactly what I have been trying to say. I didn't mean actual odds. I meant the odds of you pulling 2 sketch cards out of a case are slim so sell off the other boxes. That is why I said that the guys selling boxes on ebay are also selling sketches. It's easy to put 2 and 2 together.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 25, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
I've been wishing the packs were truly randomized since ANS7. After buying several boxes from Topps and seeing the same patterns appearing over and over it is very clear there are patterns.

If dealers buy cases and pull sketches/golds I would bet the next box in that same case does not contain either. So why not sell that box for a little cheaper and look like you're giving someone a deal?

If the packs were truly random it would be much more interesting to buy packs imo.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 27, 2011, 11:57:48 AM
If the packs were truly random it would be much more interesting to buy packs imo.

This is all that I was trying to say and agree with. We need to call Mythbusters about the truth of pack collation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 27, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
This is all that I was trying to say and agree with. We need to call Mythbusters about the truth of pack collation.
Have any of the card distributors(Fleer, Donrus, Topps, and all of the makers of today) ever found a way to somewhat randomize their packing?  There is no such thing as true randomness but if they could switch patterns throughout their distribution, it might help.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 27, 2011, 12:30:03 PM
Have any of the card distributors(Fleer, Donrus, Topps, and all of the makers of today) ever found a way to somewhat randomize their packing?  There is no such thing as true randomness but if they could switch patterns throughout their distribution, it might help.

I think the new insertion equipment the production plants Topps uses use these days are all run by computer programming, so they should be able to mix and match the collation to any rate they want, and they would be able to alter the ratio on the fly too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 27, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
I think the new insertion equipment the production plants Topps uses use these days are all run by computer programming, so they should be able to mix and match the collation to any rate they want, and they would be able to alter the ratio on the fly too.
I wonder if that would hurt sales as it seems the major dealers are pack searchers and if that ability was taken from them, they would buy less but collectors would probably buy more.  Who are the biggest buyers?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 28, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
I wonder if that would hurt sales as it seems the major dealers are pack searchers and if that ability was taken from them, they would buy less but collectors would probably buy more.  Who are the biggest buyers?

Good question. In the long run it think it would all work out and no one would feel that there is any unfairness going on. As it stands now, you might have the "code crackers" buying more just for that reason - if they didn't crack it, they would buy less - but everyone else would probably buy more knowing that their odds are better. I think it would even out in the long run.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 28, 2011, 06:37:46 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 28, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db

That better be a mistake! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 28, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
That better be a mistake! 
but it's true - no where else will you find such a deal!!!!
and for very good reason, too
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 28, 2011, 09:31:14 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db

I can't believe for that price I have to tilt my head to see it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 28, 2011, 09:50:19 PM
I can't believe for that price I have to tilt my head to see it.


I think she keeps forgetting to either turn the camera or the cards, or she keeps turning both and is still wondering why she keeps going around the world to the left.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on August 29, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
I just wonder who needs $20 minus postage that bad (if you sell them all).  Guess you gotta recoup somehow.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 04, 2011, 05:35:59 PM
Here she goes again, i guess she needs 4 different snot variations. Think she'd leave a used tissue for the beggers?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-SKETCH-CARD-Joe-Simko-/380366271120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f98b290
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 04, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
Here she goes again, i guess she needs 4 different snot variations. Think she'd leave a used tissue for the beggers?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-SKETCH-CARD-Joe-Simko-/380366271120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f98b290
Confused....$50 is cheap for a sketch. If I had known it would sell this cheap I would have bid on it. You have no idea if she only put a $50 bid on this or not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 04, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
Anyone here deal with a guy named Frank from NY(Ebay id Ditkorules)?  He asked me to meet him at the Wayne Firehouse show today to buy some display boxes.  Says he was going to get there around noon but for some reason, he supposedly shifted his schedule and was there from 11 to 12:15. I got there just before noon and never saw him and I hung out til 1:00.  There were no more than 5 people other than dealers at this completely dead show. 

Seems pretty disingenuous to leave by 12:15 and claiming he didn't see me as I had my wacky pack guide with me making me easy to spot.  This show is very small, a single room of maybe 25 dealer tables.  I had no way to identify him as he offered me no way to spot him.

I think he is full of crap and never showed up as he now doesn't want to buy the boxes.  I think he just changed his mind and blew me off so I wanted to see if others have dealt with him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 04, 2011, 11:01:13 PM
How can this guy sell these so cheap? Free shipping? and i bet he still turns a profit. This is how Gary can open so much. They must be getting one hell of a deal from TOPPS. This and having to put up with pack/box searchers really pisses one off!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Sealed-24-Pack-Box-/350489880505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ad327b9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 04, 2011, 11:05:43 PM
How can this guy sell these so cheap? Free shipping? and i bet he still turns a profit. This is how Gary can open so much. They must be getting one hell of a deal from TOPPS. This and having to put up with pack/box searchers really pisses one off!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Sealed-24-Pack-Box-/350489880505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ad327b9

Stay away....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 05, 2011, 07:54:30 AM
Stay away....
Why stay away?  Do these come with topps plastic wrap?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 05, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
Anyone here deal with a guy named Frank from NY(Ebay id Ditkorules)?  He asked me to meet him at the Wayne Firehouse show today to buy some display boxes.  Says he was going to get there around noon but for some reason, he supposedly shifted his schedule and was there from 11 to 12:15. I got there just before noon and never saw him and I hung out til 1:00.  There were no more than 5 people other than dealers at this completely dead show. 

Seems pretty disingenuous to leave by 12:15 and claiming he didn't see me as I had my wacky pack guide with me making me easy to spot.  This show is very small, a single room of maybe 25 dealer tables.  I had no way to identify him as he offered me no way to spot him.

I think he is full of crap and never showed up as he now doesn't want to buy the boxes.  I think he just changed his mind and blew me off so I wanted to see if others have dealt with him.


I never had any dealings with him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 10, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 10, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8

But it's a RARE Maximun Security Bonus Card !!

 I love how people on e-bay loosely use the words RARE and VINTAGE and MINT.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 12, 2011, 06:30:12 AM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8

This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 26, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)


What baffles the shit out of me about this one is somebody bought one!!!


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 26, 2011, 02:23:23 PM
If it doesnt sell the first time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-Wacky-Packages-4-Burger-Thing-PSA-10-pop-2-/270820766434?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0e2cf2e2


Ask for MORE the second!



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-Wacky-Packages-4-Burger-Thing-PSA-10-pop-2-/270824719602?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D270820766434%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3060628054219598931

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 26, 2011, 05:30:42 PM
This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)


Clint=Overpriced
I don't understand his reasoning for selling price. I don't think he has one. He's hoping someone will pay it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 04, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 04, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f
LOL, the problem is that wackys seem to be relistable forever with no fees so this seller has no downside in just mindlessly relisting it over and over again.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 04, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f

It seems like I've been seeing that one pop up for years now.  This seller and that seller Lisa something seem like they will never stop listing them.  I've considered buying them so I don't have to look at them anymore!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 04, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 12:37:51 PM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Yeah, but then when he lists a NM Ratz with a BIN of $7.99, you'll miss it.  LOL  All Wackys are worth at least $7.99. Didn't you know that?

It's amazing how many times this shmuck has relisted these at the same price, with no hits, and yet continues to do so. Does he really think they are worth anything? Think I'll write him...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.
Rick Probstein? probstein123?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 05, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.

I wouldnt say flip, more like overprices and then just sits there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 01:12:49 PM
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.

I'm currently ignoring these sellers:
probstein123,adam-12!,make-mine-marvel

This is my search criteria:
wack* pack* -(ans*, flashback, 1985, 1980, 1979, 1986, bandz, proof, sonic, "all new", all-new, 2005

I basically want to narrow it down to OS stuff. It drops my search results almost half.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 05, 2011, 02:29:16 PM
Probstein is a consignment seller, and apparently a very good one. I agree, he rarely has anything appealing in the world of wackys, but he does have a lot of good sports card stuff....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 05:28:36 PM
I wouldnt say flip, more like overprices and then just sits there.
Good point, I used the wrong word as flipping implies the stuff is selling!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Think I'll write him...
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.
Quote from: bigtomi
I just wanted to pass along some advice/information regarding these Wacky Package auctions you've been running, as I've been a collector for quite some time. Has it occurred to you that you're overpricing these? And, in fact, a good portion of them have next to no value at all given the condition they're in. Duxie is a good example; this one is basically valueless as a collectible sticker. I'm really not trying to be vindictive, just hoping you will see the light on these for what they are. They are truly not worth even listing for sale. Throw them out and move on.
Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:
Quote from: eBay seller
Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !! thank you,marc
Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
I particular like that he wants to pay you for something he deemed as priceless as he runs one sentence to the next....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on October 05, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
Ha!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

The guy is a total loon. What is with these wack job sellers? Everyone thinks they have a treasure. We should all message him through eBay so he gets a clue? Fuckhead response! Sorry, I'm still sad about Steve Jobs :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Actually if you look at this guys completed stuff he doesn't sell much. It's all garbage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on October 06, 2011, 05:40:14 AM
Series 7 bio complete set. "by far the best price on the market" at $140.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110754032333&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

However, you can buy them here for $110 less:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTCARD-SERIES-7-COMPLETE-BIO-SET-6-/170703288501?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D180730098443%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3284191039940953257
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 06, 2011, 06:01:27 AM
Series 7 bio complete set. "by far the best price on the market" at $140.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110754032333&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

However, you can buy them here for $110 less:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTCARD-SERIES-7-COMPLETE-BIO-SET-6-/170703288501?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D180730098443%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3284191039940953257

Yo..that top one is Plan9's auction - he's working it...like the profit margin...it might have been the best price for a minute or so... :P :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 06, 2011, 06:01:28 AM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

I think he's probably a little strange but I think his response is just sarcastic humor.  I guess we more several more years of looking at them! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 06, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

LOL, you always make me laugh!  :great:

You'll see, just wait! Cool, we'll have something else to wait for besides Olds 3.

His stock pile of 2500 items must smell pretty nasty by now.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 06, 2011, 08:37:07 PM
LOL, you always make me laugh!  :great:

You'll see, just wait! Cool, we'll have something else to wait for besides Olds 3.

His stock pile of 2500 items must smell pretty nasty by now.  >(

You misread Bug. He said he is waiting till he has stockpiled 2500 items. He is collecting stuff. Lets buy 1 item, get his address and send him bags of garbage in the mail. Maybe he wil get the hint. you know, kinda like putting deodorant on a stinky persons desk.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 07, 2011, 12:10:38 PM
You misread Bug. He said he is waiting till he has stockpiled 2500 items. He is collecting stuff. Lets buy 1 item, get his address and send him bags of garbage in the mail. Maybe he wil get the hint. you know, kinda like putting deodorant on a stinky persons desk.

I vote for sending him piles of SH*T instead!!Stuff is Stuff!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 13, 2011, 11:29:39 AM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 13, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....

$2,000.00 for a couple of Wonderbreads?!!  That's funny.  I guess PSA would have to have both series to compare the die-cut patterns, but some may be too similar to discern.  What should they do if that's the case, list both possibilities on the info?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 13, 2011, 03:59:08 PM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....

Unreal! Someone may bite but I think the people with deep pockets would know the difference.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 13, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Unreal! Someone may bite but I think the people with deep pockets would know the difference.

But even if they were legit S1 tanbacks would they be worth anywhere near that amount?  I don't think so.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 13, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
But even if they were legit S1 tanbacks would they be worth anywhere near that amount?  I don't think so.   

A lavirus 10? I have no idea what that would go for. I would assume about $600-$1000.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 14, 2011, 12:24:34 AM
We all know 9046clint is nuts. What i want to know is who is the wack-job that bought 1 ???


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362614551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f60e717
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 14, 2011, 06:28:24 AM
A lavirus 10? I have no idea what that would go for. I would assume about $600-$1000.

I would think a NM tan Lavirus would be worth in the $200-$250.00 range.  I'm not knowledgeable about how much a PSA 10 would increase the value of an already NM card, but 3 to 4X seems like a lot to me.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2011, 08:57:42 AM
It all depends on demand. In the vintage sports card world, the increase is astronomical because everyone on the planet wants a PSA 10  1952 Mickey Mantle and there exist very few. Obviously, the number of people who care enough about a tan-back Lavirus is much smaller. A PSA 10 Band-Ache White Back would definitely break the bank. It's largely a function of the profile of the card driving demand.

I would add: in sports cards, so many cards have been submitted to PSA that the population reports are meaningful. There are many BB card with endemically bad centering and they are legitimately rare in high grade as a result. There are a few wackys that fit that description also (Sweathard, 8-Lives, etc.) Garden variety wackys are hardly worth submitting to PSA. As a result, there could be some wackys here and there for which a PSA 8 doesn't exist. That doesn't mean they're rare or should command a premium. It just means no one has bothered to submit them yet. The whole "Population 1" justification for charging huge bucks for a graden variety wacky is logically flawed, but once in a while I guess you might convince a rich, uneducated registry collector.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Feetena on October 15, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
The whole "Population 1" justification for charging huge bucks for a graden variety wacky is logically flawed, but once in a while I guess you might convince a rich, uneducated registry collector.

Yes, I particularly get a kick out of the frequent 1982 or 1986 album stickers that show up on the Bay with "Population 1". 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 16, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
Is this guy nuts? He is selling this way to low. Doesnt he know if he jacks the price up and tears off a corner and lets it sit around on E-bay for years it just might sell!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Original-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Duxie-Cups-white-back-/400250133447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30c45bc7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 16, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
Is this guy nuts? He is selling this way to low. Doesnt he know if he jacks the price up and tears off a corner and lets it sit around on E-bay for years it just might sell!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Original-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Duxie-Cups-white-back-/400250133447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30c45bc7

I'm confused? I think it's a fair price for a nice card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 17, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
I'm confused? I think it's a fair price for a nice card.
It is. lucid is sarcastically referring to our selling friend, antiquefloyd, and his pieces of shit cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 30, 2011, 12:30:44 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on October 30, 2011, 06:54:19 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
someone told her she could make a quick buck
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 30, 2011, 08:18:59 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
She made me an offer for Grave Nuts......hmmmm.....she is from TN as is WackyGarbage....coincidence?  I think not.....
Oh and she offered to do a direct paypal deal, how could she know I prefer that kind of deal if I never crossed paths with her before?   Hmmmm.....wackygarbage smells like garbage, the name fits him perfectly!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 30, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
someone told her she could make a quick buck



I'm not buying that. Other nefarious things are at work here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 04, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Topps-1975-Wacky-Packages-11th-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-Mint-State-/150691369336?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2315e7d178


Now this is a rare unopened pack! It's an 11th series pack with a 21-fold front and a (fake) 85-fold back. You don't see these everyday!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 04, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
The Top left corner looks like its been stubbed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 04, 2011, 05:24:56 PM
The Top left corner looks like its been stubbed.

In fact he just accidentally showed the front of the 12th series pack he also has up with the back of the "11th". The scan of the 11th back (and every 9th and 11th he has ever offered) still show it to be fake, however.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 04, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
In fact he just accidentally showed the front of the 12th series pack he also has up with the back of the "11th". The scan of the 11th back (and every 9th and 11th he has ever offered) still show it to be fake, however.
Why would anyone buy anything from him?  We already established lots of his stuff is fake and now he can't even be bothered to show the exact scans of the products he is selling....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 05, 2011, 08:08:08 AM
Why would anyone buy anything from him?  We already established lots of his stuff is fake and now he can't even be bothered to show the exact scans of the products he is selling....

Good question. I believe some of his packs may be real, but no one ever mentions that this guy has used the same scans for about 15 9th, 11th and 12th series auctions. I would never risk dealing with him, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 06, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
Anyone follow those uncut reprint sheet auctions?
10 sheets each of series 2, series 3 and series 4.
from a new seller, with no feedback.
I noticed they used the uncut sheet pics from Greg's site for the images in all the auctions. So I asked, twice, for pics of the actual sheets being sold in the auction, but never got a response - although they did respond to an earlier question I had.

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1 (http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 06, 2011, 09:15:17 PM
Anyone follow those uncut reprint sheet auctions?
10 sheets each of series 2, series 3 and series 4.
from a new seller, with no feedback.
I noticed they used the uncut sheet pics from Greg's site for the images in all the auctions. So I asked, twice, for pics of the actual sheets being sold in the auction, but never got a response - although they did respond to an earlier question I had.

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1 (http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1)

0 rating is not comforting and stealing images even less so but something tells me these will turn out to be legit.  Anyone here win these auctions?  I didn't even notice them but I primarily ignore 1980s auctions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 07, 2011, 08:14:11 AM
I saw these, but the red flags were everywhere so I did not bid on them.  0 feedback, using Topps in the seller name to try for legitimacy, 10 sheets of each of these, not just one, and the lifted pics.  All of this lead me to not bid.  I doubt if this guy really has ten of each of these.  If he did have that many, why sell them all together?  Doesn't make a lot of sense. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 10, 2011, 06:01:20 AM
I saw these, but the red flags were everywhere so I did not bid on them.  0 feedback, using Topps in the seller name to try for legitimacy, 10 sheets of each of these, not just one, and the lifted pics.  All of this lead me to not bid.  I doubt if this guy really has ten of each of these.  If he did have that many, why sell them all together?  Doesn't make a lot of sense. 

I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2011, 06:14:35 AM
I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D
I've received a private email from them, saying they have more of all 3 sheets sheets (in sets of 10!).

this seems similar to that guy that showed up years ago with several hundred of the Shedd's cards. The cards were initially really rare, and got big $, until everyone finally realized he had a never ending supply.
I wonder how many sheets they have in total.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on November 10, 2011, 06:50:38 AM
I've received a private email from them, saying they have more of all 3 sheets sheets (in sets of 10!).

this seems similar to that guy that showed up years ago with several hundred of the Shedd's cards. The cards were initially really rare, and got big $, until everyone finally realized he had a never ending supply.
I wonder how many sheets they have in total.

The winning bidder left positive feedback, albeit vague, for all three sets of sheets.
If the seller has an unlimited supply, then I wonder if the prices for the sets will begin to drop to series one levels.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 10, 2011, 08:48:01 AM
I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D

Can't the seller take a camera picture of them at least to show that he has them in his possession?  If I were interested I wouldn't bid unless I had some pictures.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 10, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
Can't the seller take a camera picture of them at least to show that he has them in his possession?  If I were interested I wouldn't bid unless I had some pictures.



BTW..the dude that won all 3 auctions won a Series 3 Sheet for $340+ for ONE sheet recently...looks like he's trying to corner the market..seems like he's not an avid Wacky collector/bidder...go figure.. ;D

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 10, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
BTW..the dude that won all 3 auctions won a Series 3 Sheet for $340+ for ONE sheet recently...looks like he's trying to corner the market..seems like he's not an avid Wacky collector/bidder...go figure.. ;D


This is a HUGE red flag.....if the winner of these auctions also overpaid to the tune of $340 for a series 3 reissue sheet, then the seller and winning bidder are one in the same and winning the single sheet for $340 was purely to create perception of market value for these sheets.  I smell a shill here!  This doesn't mean the seller doesn't have the sheets but his greed is going to get the better of him very soon!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 10, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
This is a HUGE red flag.....if the winner of these auctions also overpaid to the tune of $340 for a series 3 reissue sheet, then the seller and winning bidder are one in the same and winning the single sheet for $340 was purely to create perception of market value for these sheets.  I smell a shill here!  This doesn't mean the seller doesn't have the sheets but his greed is going to get the better of him very soon!

I agree.  That's the same thing I thought when I read that.  Create a high price and get a positive feedback from a buyer. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
I agree.  That's the same thing I thought when I read that.  Create a high price and get a positive feedback from a buyer. 

You still have fees so I guess you could buy your feedback but why?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 10, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
You still have fees so I guess you could buy your feedback but why?
Ebay fee could be well worth it if he thinks he is creating a fictional market of $300 for reissue sheets.  Interestingly, I have my series 4 reissue sheet out there and have listed it off and on in recent months and this bidder who won 10 of them didn't bid on mine.....I doubt he will bid on mine, he is purely shilling....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2011, 09:11:02 PM
Ebay fee could be well worth it if he thinks he is creating a fictional market of $300 for reissue sheets.  Interestingly, I have my series 4 reissue sheet out there and have listed it off and on in recent months and this bidder who won 10 of them didn't bid on mine.....I doubt he will bid on mine, he is purely shilling....

This bidder bought 10 sheets so that is $44 a sheet. I have no idea what you are selling yours for. Remember that eBay fees seem to be around 10% so this guy would have paid around $100 for a 1 rating. It doesn't add up.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 11, 2011, 09:53:33 AM
This bidder bought 10 sheets so that is $44 a sheet. I have no idea what you are selling yours for. Remember that eBay fees seem to be around 10% so this guy would have paid around $100 for a 1 rating. It doesn't add up.
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...I said he wanted to establish a bogus market value for the sheets he is peddling.  For all we know behind the scenes, he didn't complete the deal and got an ebay fee refund.  Notice how soon the feedback was left....do you really think 30 sheets of wackys was paid for and sent in two days?  Auction ended on Sunday(a non shipping day) and feedback was left at 3:00 am on Wednesday which means they were shipped on Monday and received on Tuesday.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2011, 11:44:45 AM
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...I said he wanted to establish a bogus market value for the sheets he is peddling.  For all we know behind the scenes, he didn't complete the deal and got an ebay fee refund.  Notice how soon the feedback was left....do you really think 30 sheets of wackys was paid for and sent in two days?  Auction ended on Sunday(a non shipping day) and feedback was left at 3:00 am on Wednesday which means they were shipped on Monday and received on Tuesday.......

That was exactly what I was going to say.  Just do a mutual cancel and no fees.  I'm just not sure if that would remove the feedback though, but even if it did you could drag that out several weeks while you are selling sheets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 11, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
That was exactly what I was going to say.  Just do a mutual cancel and no fees.  I'm just not sure if that would remove the feedback though, but even if it did you could drag that out several weeks while you are selling sheets.
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 11, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.

Judging from all your points...I have to agree..seems "fishy"-prize toy..esp. the shipping and feedback speed...and "rare-topps" yeahhhh....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2011, 12:37:13 PM
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.

You're probably right but I do think there is a difference from a zero feedback to someone who has one or two positives, as long as you think they are legit transactions of course.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 12, 2011, 07:24:19 AM
Anyone know if the red ludlow print on this card is incorrect for a series one card?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Weakies-Red-Ludlow-back-series-1-/400256483283?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d31253fd3
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 12, 2011, 08:18:13 AM
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.

What looks odd to me is that the card is so far away I can't even see the camels!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on November 12, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
What looks odd to me is that the card is so far away I can't even see the camels!

They're on the horizon. If you wait long enough, you can see them bounce up and down a little as they walk by.

What I'm trying to figure out is the precise size of the bubble envelope under the sticker. Must be 2 ft x 3 ft or something. It's HUGE!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 12, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
They're on the horizon. If you wait long enough, you can see them bounce up and down a little as they walk by.

What I'm trying to figure out is the precise size of the bubble envelope under the sticker. Must be 2 ft x 3 ft or something. It's HUGE!

Guess the camera did not have zoom and the photographer did not have arms that reached any closer. And the PC had no app to crop picture. And the seller doesn't want to sell very badly.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 12, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...

I never said you mentioned the rating but Rob did. It's not always about you :-* Your point is well taken!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 12, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
I never said you mentioned the rating but Rob did. It's not always about you :-* Your point is well taken!
You quoted me in your response so it looked like a direct response to me...how do you miss details like this?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 12, 2011, 02:31:07 PM
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.
Where the heck is the original post from Exorcist that you were responding to?  I don't see it in this thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 12, 2011, 02:32:12 PM
Where the heck is the original post from Exorcist that you were responding to?  I don't see it in this thread.

I was looking also, i think he removed it but not before someone responded.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: exorcist on November 12, 2011, 03:57:11 PM
sorry guys i removed it.  i didnt want to offend the seller if it was legit.  thanks for the feedback. i was thinking of bidding and wanted input
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 12, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
You quoted me in your response so it looked like a direct response to me...how do you miss details like this?

I questioned you and Rob in the same response. Not al about you. Sorry, let's move on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 13, 2011, 06:53:07 AM
I questioned you and Rob in the same response. Not al about you. Sorry, let's move on.
Nope, there is no mention of rob's name in your response, you directly quoted me making it look like you were unable to understand that i made no mention of rating being important.  Same ole story, you are sloppy and careless and you just don't care.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 13, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
sorry guys i removed it.  i didnt want to offend the seller if it was legit.  thanks for the feedback. i was thinking of bidding and wanted input

The seller wouldn't be part of this forum because WE know how to properly take a pic for eBay!  haha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 13, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
The seller wouldn't be part of this forum because WE know how to properly take a pic for eBay!  haha
I thought you were gonna say that WE know how to properly fake a Lud.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 12, 2011, 08:14:46 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 12, 2011, 09:06:48 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!

That is really a shocker. I was thinking $2k range also. I'm surprised that it went this high when it hasn't been graded.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 13, 2011, 05:57:18 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!

I saw that.  It's definitely a nice one but it did have some minor blemishes, so I was surprised it went that high.  Here are the pics in case anyone missed it...........

 
(http://s10.postimage.org/wy3uy6a39/Screen_shot_2011_12_13_at_8_54_54_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wy3uy6a39/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/7gq1sbhqt/Screen_shot_2011_12_13_at_8_55_05_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7gq1sbhqt/)

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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: koduck on December 13, 2011, 08:59:51 AM
Ratz! I missed another great auction! By the way If anyone has a similar card (for about 1/10th the price), I'll be happy to give it a good home!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 13, 2011, 10:57:09 AM
I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?!
I'm in that boat, also, as I expected more like $2,500. Possibly, the fact that there hasn't been a decent Ratz on eBay in quite some time and that this one is pretty high-grade (as die-cut/Ratz's go) might explain that inflated price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 13, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.

Now he's dreaming about that $4,250 sales price. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 11:31:06 AM
More power to him if the sale is legit, but if so, the buyer is foolhardy to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 13, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?


This sale is the kind of money a PSA 8 would have gone for at the top of the market.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 13, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?


It's crazy but there are collectors that like to find raw cards to grade in hopes of getting a high grade card because of the value. You guys are right that even if this does get a PSA 8 I highly doubt the buyer would get their money back. Now if it comes back a 9 or 10 then that is a totally different story!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 13, 2011, 03:20:36 PM
Not wacky related but this is considered NUTS!
Apple Founding Documents Sell for Nearly $1.6 Million
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1291071
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on December 14, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
Not wacky related but this is considered NUTS!
Apple Founding Documents Sell for Nearly $1.6 Million
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1291071

Yeah, I'd say slightly higher than their pre-auction estimate!  :^)  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 15, 2011, 08:38:07 AM
Yeah, I'd say slightly higher than their pre-auction estimate!  :^)  :o

There is speculation that Apple purchased these. They have enough money in reserve :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on December 19, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
I'm not sure if I'm missing something with this poster. Isn't it a $15 to $25 poster at best in nm? Why the big fight? Looks like the paper may be off white, or just poorly aged, but these days it's VERY rare to see a bidding war, much less on something relatively common. Any other takes?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-poster-Crakola-Crayons-nrmt-mt-w-folds-/220912523153?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336f699791
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 19, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
Don't know why, but it sure underscores the wisdom of sniping. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on December 19, 2011, 01:42:37 PM
Don't know why, but it sure underscores the wisdom of sniping. 

Sniping certainly helps minimize someone bidding you up, but a "wacky" bid usually produces wacky results no matter when it's placed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 19, 2011, 01:51:08 PM
I saw that auction and thought to myself, Damn i've got those cheaper from ToppsVault with NO-folds.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 19, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
Hang on... is it just me, or is the photo of the back of the poster mighty flat and small? Looks like the back of a card?!?  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 19, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
Hang on... is it just me, or is the photo of the back of the poster mighty flat and small? Looks like the back of a card?!?  :o
the poster is just completely folded up, that's all
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 20, 2011, 08:55:59 AM
... it's VERY rare to see a bidding war, much less on something relatively common. Any other takes?
I think there's actually no "war" here at all. The winning bidder only placed one (very high) bid 5 days before auction end. The only other bidder just kept stabbing at it, pushing it up. My guess is the winner just really wanted it badly and placed a super high bid to minimize the chance of losing it. I'd bet he thought he'd get it for considerably less.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2011, 09:23:23 AM
I think there's actually no "war" here at all. The winning bidder only placed one (very high) bid 5 days before auction end. The only other bidder just kept stabbing at it, pushing it up. My guess is the winner just really wanted it badly and placed a super high bid to minimize the chance of losing it. I'd bet he thought he'd get it for considerably less.

Which is exactly why he should have sniped it at the same bid. That way, the other bidder wouldn't have had anything to keep bidding up, and would have put in probably a considerably lower bid. I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on December 20, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."

This constantly cracks me up. It's like someone driving off a cliff and a line of cars following behind.

We forum members should do an experiment and put up for aution a "vintage - rare" plastic turd. Then each of us keep bidding it up and see if any outsiders bid in on it. Once an outsider bids, then sell that turd to the outsider who must of thought it was worth something!  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 20, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
the poster is just completely folded up, that's all

Duh! Makes perfect sense now - thanks!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 20, 2011, 05:03:47 PM
This constantly cracks me up. It's like someone driving off a cliff and a line of cars following behind.

We forum members should do an experiment and put up for aution a "vintage - rare" plastic turd. Then each of us keep bidding it up and see if any outsiders bid in on it. Once an outsider bids, then sell that turd to the outsider who must of thought it was worth something!  :great:
someone beat us to it... http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Fake-Dog-Turd-Realistic-Poop-Plastic-Gag-Gift-Prank-/320813424162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1f85e22
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 20, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Which is exactly why he should have sniped it at the same bid. That way, the other bidder wouldn't have had anything to keep bidding up, and would have put in probably a considerably lower bid. I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."
Didn't Todd Riley win this?  He knows better than to get suckered with an early high bid.  This is very strange!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on December 21, 2011, 01:38:00 PM
someone beat us to it... http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Fake-Dog-Turd-Realistic-Poop-Plastic-Gag-Gift-Prank-/320813424162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1f85e22

That auction's full of crap!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 21, 2011, 06:01:49 PM
That auction's full of crap!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I wasn't the first bidder but I was the #2 bidder (baboom)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 24, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Did someone just pay over $200 for a 16th series Horsey in average condition?  I think I found who is nuts.  Who is more nuts, the winner or the one trying to overtake him at well over the price of the card?

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 24, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 24, 2011, 04:42:30 PM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932

But was it W@W...L@@K...R@RE?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 01, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
We have a new up and comer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-ANS-Series-8-Shots-Dots-Brent-Engstrom-Sketch-Card-/110802315752?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc5529e8

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-ANS-Series-8-Peepsi-Pepsi-Smokin-Joe-Sketch-Card-/110802314863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc55266f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on January 01, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Let's make sure we point out the best selling point.  FREE SHIPPING!  For 750 measly bucks, you get free shipping.

WOW! :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
Let's make sure we point out the best selling point.  FREE SHIPPING!  For 750 measly bucks, you get free shipping.

WOW! :o

I'd be shocked if these netted $75...  let alone $750  :85:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2012, 06:57:02 AM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932

Isn't that a $40-$60 card these days based on condition?  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 04, 2012, 08:28:11 PM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 05, 2012, 04:42:20 AM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6

I'll bet they are both trying to complete sets, and need that specific card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 05, 2012, 06:41:10 AM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6

Gold #29 sold for the same amount and I needed it but I didn't even bother bidding when I saw what was going on.  When I first saw it it was already at $157.00 which is more than I would pay.  There are obviously some collectors out there trying to complete a set!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 05, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Slayskool needed it to complete his golds !  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on January 05, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Slayskool needed it to complete his golds !  ;D


Ha!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 10, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
I'm tempted to pop on this one, but the $38 shipping kinda puts it over the top for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLY-GRAIL-PARTRIDGE-FAMILY-SCREEN-GEMS-RECORDS-SHIRLEY-JONES-DAVID-CASSIDY-/320826701268?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4ab2c2f5d4
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 10, 2012, 09:01:22 AM
I'm tempted to pop on this one, but the $38 shipping kinda puts it over the top for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLY-GRAIL-PARTRIDGE-FAMILY-SCREEN-GEMS-RECORDS-SHIRLEY-JONES-DAVID-CASSIDY-/320826701268?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4ab2c2f5d4

I wouldn't, they aren't even PSA graded.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on January 10, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
You're putting a price on the Holy Grail?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on January 10, 2012, 12:33:36 PM
Wouldn't Shirley Jones, David Cassidy or that funky bus be the Holy Grail of Partridge Family collectibles?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 10, 2012, 01:01:14 PM
Wouldn't Shirley Jones, David Cassidy or that funky bus be the Holy Grail of Partridge Family collectibles?

Depends, Danny Bonaduce is the Holy Grail of idiots.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 10, 2012, 06:19:06 PM
Wow! The shipping to Canada is only $214.55 :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 19, 2012, 06:28:10 AM

I'm going to yield on this one so someone else can jump on it.  What are the odds of this happening?  haha................


(http://s14.postimage.org/vbo7cof25/Screen_shot_2012_01_19_at_9_26_25_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vbo7cof25/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 19, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
I'm going to yield on this one so someone else can jump on it.  What are the odds of this happening?  haha................


(http://s14.postimage.org/vbo7cof25/Screen_shot_2012_01_19_at_9_26_25_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vbo7cof25/)

Or this is the sticker image bleeding through so you can see it from the back.  I have seen these before but the image showing through the back was much lighter.  It is almost as if the tan backing is much thinner paper.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 19, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
Or this is the sticker image bleeding through so you can see it from the back.  I have seen these before but the image showing through the back was much lighter.  It is almost as if the tan backing is much thinner paper.

I was being sarcastic on that one.  It looks to me like the sticker backing is completely missing so you can see right through it. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 19, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
I was being sarcastic on that one.  It looks to me like the sticker backing is completely missing so you can see right through it. 
yeah. seems like the back may have been soaked in Chicken Fat - making it see-through.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
yeah. seems like the back may have been soaked in Chicken Fat - making it see-through.

Probably just sat in water for a good long time and this is the result.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 23, 2012, 06:01:32 AM
Is this nuts? It looks nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 23, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
Is this nuts? It looks nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e)
Maybe a wittle bit nuts. 2nd series material is harder to come by, though, so that could explain it to some degree...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 23, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
When you say harder to come by do you mean unopened material specifically? I thought that the 4th series was harder because the sets always seem to cost more than the other 3.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 23, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
Yes, the second series of rissue unopened stuff is by far the hardest to come by.  I would say that it is worth 4x what series 1 and 3 stuff goes for, and maybe double what series 4 goes for.  Again, all unopened material, packs and full boxes.  This auction is not al that surprising to me.  I can't remember the last time I saw a full series 2 box up for sale.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 24, 2012, 03:14:29 PM
The price doubled since I first posted, $660.99 :o I used to think that only the original series stuff would go for prices like this. So the person that bought this would be a collector of unopened boxes? I guess there would be no point paying that much to build sets or sell packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 24, 2012, 07:08:28 PM
The price doubled since I first posted, $660.99 :o I used to think that only the original series stuff would go for prices like this. So the person that bought this would be a collector of unopened boxes? I guess there would be no point paying that much to build sets or sell packs.

Now, if I would have sold it I would have gotten $199...HaHa
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 25, 2012, 08:24:04 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1976-WACKY-PACKAGES-16TH-SERIES-EMPTY-BOX-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/220939900689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33710b5711

I love it when people are intellectually dishonest in their item descriptions. The 16th series box (along with wrappers) is the most common original series box. Yet people always try to link the rarity of the stickers to the rarity of the box. It's worth $75-100 max.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 25, 2012, 08:39:46 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/73-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-RARE-MRS-KLEAN-TAN-BACK-HI-GRADE-NM-MT-CONDITION-/320834645365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab33c2d75

Hey presto! A nearly miscut wonderbread sticker becomes a NM/MT 1st series "rare" tanback with "very good centering!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 25, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1976-WACKY-PACKAGES-16TH-SERIES-EMPTY-BOX-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/220939900689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33710b5711

I love it when people are intellectually dishonest in their item descriptions. The 16th series box (along with wrappers) is the most common original series box. Yet people always try to link the rarity of the stickers to the rarity of the box. It's worth $75-100 max.

Yeah, I even think that is a bit high.  I don't think I would go more than $50 onn a 16th empty box.  Now full, that would be another story!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 30, 2012, 10:35:27 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 30, 2012, 10:56:45 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?


I wouldn't mind getting one if the price drops to, say, around $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 30, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?


I have that one and the common one, but I still need the "fresh breath" version.  It's nice for those that need something rare like that, but it's also a shame when it suddenly becomes common after many years.  Takes some of the spice out of it.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 31, 2012, 09:56:36 AM

FYI.  I offered him $40.00 for the Peanuts sheet and he turned down my offer.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on January 31, 2012, 10:47:01 AM
FYI.  I offered him $40.00 for the Peanuts sheet and he turned down my offer.

He didn't even counter?  Kinda wonder why people bother with the "Best Offer" option if they aren't going to budge from their asking price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 31, 2012, 11:10:39 AM
He countered with an offer of $45.00
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on January 31, 2012, 12:12:50 PM
He didn't even counter?  Kinda wonder why people bother with the "Best Offer" option if they aren't going to budge from their asking price.

I always counter...kinda like the best offer deal.... :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on January 31, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
He countered with an offer of $45.00

That guy thinks he's going to retire on that roll...eventually he will come down... :o :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 03, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
You know? Some people just don't get it with the sketch cards. I see 2 auctions that started at $800 each and then dropped to $500, then dropped to $200 and now at $180 and they still won't sell that high. This pack searcher is probably scratching his head.
Then I see this auction making its 2nd or 3rd round:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-1st-2nd-SERIES-10-JAY-LYNCH-RARE-SKETCH-CARDS-/200708888076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebb2e960c#ht_500wt_922

There are only a few big spenders Within the sketch card community, including myself to some extent. If they aren't grabbed at higher prices then they won't sell until the price gets dropped dramatically. I didn't think this would happen but OLDS1 and 2 helped to build sketch burnout with some sketch collectors. Even the postcards aren't even as important nor are the color sketches. OLDS3 could change that depending on sketches but we have hit the peak of sketch cards. I still love them but when is too much?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 04, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
I still love them but when is too much?

Is this person NUTS???


                   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
Is this person NUTS???


                   :]

Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 04, 2012, 10:19:21 AM
Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.
lol. I think he was referring to Brad being nuts. Brad might be getting tired of sketch cards? say it ain't so!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 04, 2012, 10:25:16 AM
lol. I think he was referring to Brad being nuts. Brad might be getting tired of sketch cards? say it ain't so!

I'm not getting tired of sketch cards. I love them but what my point was is the sketch market is slowing down. If I was tired of sketches I wouldn't have an additional 13 Spook card sketches. Not even Wacky's and I'm still collecting sketches :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 03:30:35 PM
I'm not getting tired of sketch cards. I love them but what my point was is the sketch market is slowing down. If I was tired of sketches I wouldn't have an additional 13 Spook card sketches. Not even Wacky's and I'm still collecting sketches :great:

I still like em a lot as well !  For me, it sort of equates to having 'one of the big four' from the Original Series, since you know there are a limited number of these. Plus, knowing it was drawn directly from the artist and is not a repro. is really cool too. I also notice that a lot of them look way better in hand than in pictures, don't know exactly why but it is so.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on February 04, 2012, 04:10:07 PM
Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.

Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.

Wow, told ya I was out of the loop on this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 06, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.

You had my curiosity on this, so I checked ebay just now (monday 2-6) for auctions of sketches. There are very few now listed in auctions and the prices do not seem to be anywhere near starting at 7. or below. Most of the BIN's are: a handful btwn 9. to 12. The rest of the majority of the 232 I found are near 15. and up. That person that you spoke of probably just got a really good deal because not as many people are paying attention like before. When you said most of that lot can be had for under 20. you must mean per card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on February 06, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
Yes I meant per card, sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 07, 2012, 07:02:34 AM
Yes I meant per card, sorry for the confusion.

No apology needed. I was just kind of shocked if they were selling that low especially for a lot of them. I'd have to get me in on that action if that was the case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 07, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 07, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)

Maybe they really don't want to sell it, but will if it goes for the overstated price?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 13, 2012, 06:09:39 PM
Another deal that can't be missed:  :great:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-4-WINDHEX-SINGLE-CARD-/200632565562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb6a1ff3a

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 13, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?
hasn't stopped probstein123 and their 2000 pieces of massively overpriced crap
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 14, 2012, 03:50:42 AM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)

the auction states "no reserve"....  if the $99.00 starting bid ain't a reserve I don't know what is.... 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 14, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
the auction states "no reserve"....  if the $99.00 starting bid ain't a reserve I don't know what is.... 

LOL, Ah - come on, make an offer.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 14, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
LOL, Ah - come on, make an offer.  :^)

99 cent !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 29, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 29, 2012, 08:28:24 AM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e

Did you email the seller to let them know? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 29, 2012, 08:35:53 AM
Did you email the seller to let them know?  

No, I enjoy spouting off about this kind of thing in the forum, but have no desire to do anything about it  :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 29, 2012, 09:07:35 AM

I sent the seller an email:

Hi,
The Jail-O sticker is definitely a wonder bread sticker. Regular first series issues had a T.C.G. copyright while wonder bread stickers had Topps Chewing Gum Inc. spelled out. Here's a link with more info:
http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/wonderbread/


By the way, shipping for the single card is $6. Is he sending it in a large priority mail box?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 29, 2012, 10:02:35 AM
I sent the seller an email
I sent one, also, just as a confirmation to yours.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 29, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
No, I enjoy spouting off about this kind of thing in the forum, but have no desire to do anything about it  :D

I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on February 29, 2012, 01:16:25 PM
I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 

I sent one and he told me to tell Dr. Popper to lay off his ass..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 29, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 29, 2012, 05:54:12 PM
... if he never said it was not a WB, then why is the word "NOT" so prominently in the ebay link?  :P

He is now on my no-fly list.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 29, 2012, 06:00:44 PM
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.

He says he revised it, but there is still nothing mentioned about it being a Wonder Bread Card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 29, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e

Yes Tomi, what a jackass. His first link clearly says "NOT" a wonder bread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 29, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
He says he revised it, but there is still nothing mentioned about it being a Wonder Bread Card.

Yeah, he only removed the word "NOT" (the word he says he never used!) from the title (see his other listings for a true tan back 1st).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2012, 05:45:35 AM
Yeah, he only removed the word "NOT" (the word he says he never used!) from the title (see his other listings for a true tan back 1st).

The odds are 99% that his Gadzooka is a wonder bread also. There's no conclusive way to prove it, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:27:23 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2012, 06:31:52 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5

Oh the fascinating nuances of wackys! This is actually a 1st series UK set. This seller is from England, and has both the first and second series UK sets up right now. It's actually very cool, because for the UK titles from the later original series, there's no conclusive way to prove they are UK stickers, except to obtain them in a set like this that originated in the UK.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:37:06 AM
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.

Why couldn't he just thank you for pointing out his mistake? Absolutely no need to get defensive.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 06:40:03 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5

Actually those look like U.K. series to me.  There's no Paul Maul Wonderbread, the wrapper is blue, and the shipping location is U.K.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:51:16 AM
Is there any way to tell the difference between a UK and Wonder Bread title that overlaps between the two sets?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 07:33:46 AM
Is there any way to tell the difference between a UK and Wonder Bread title that overlaps between the two sets?

Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 01, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.
I saw that wrapper and new it was the UK set.  Any idea what the first series set is worth?  He has a second set as well.  I know the puzzle for that one is worth a bit.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 08:55:54 AM
I saw that wrapper and new it was the UK set.  Any idea what the first series set is worth?  He has a second set as well.  I know the puzzle for that one is worth a bit.

I have it as $425.00 (set) + $150.00 (puzzle), but that's for a solid EX+ to NM set, and although you can't see all of the set the ones you do see have some issues.  He describes it as "good" condition for whatever that's worth. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 01, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
I have it as $425.00 (set) + $150.00 (puzzle), but that's for a solid EX+ to NM set, and although you can't see all of the set the ones you do see have some issues.  He describes it as "good" condition for whatever that's worth. 

The problem is actually getting someone to pay that amount. I don't know how many collect all the different variations other than the forum members. The Irish set has come down over the years and that is unique.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 09:26:30 AM
The problem is actually getting someone to pay that amount. I don't know how many collect all the different variations other than the forum members. The Irish set has come down over the years and that is unique.

Your right, to get the full amount you would need to be patient, but like I said it also has a lot to do with condition.  If that was an EX- set I would cut the price in half.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
Why couldn't he just thank you for pointing out his mistake? Absolutely no need to get defensive.
Yup. Just a "Thanks for pointing that out" would have sufficed...and made him look less clueless.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 01, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.


How many series were released in the UK? This guy is always selling boxes and sets of wackys. I've seen him auction boxes from the '79/80 reissues, 1985, and original series, and I think album stickers. If these were not sold in the UK then he has a mix of US/UK.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 04:24:05 PM

How many series were released in the UK? This guy is always selling boxes and sets of wackys. I've seen him auction boxes from the '79/80 reissues, 1985, and original series, and I think album stickers. If these were not sold in the UK then he has a mix of US/UK.

There were series 1 & 2 U.K releases and then there was the Irish set in 1985.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 02, 2012, 05:17:22 PM
They come in all forms. This is 1 sweet tart, they come 1 in every box. This guy is trying to pay for half his box by selling it for this price. Some things really do make me LOL. The chump who buys this deserves to be ripped off. Someone alreay bought each card in the base set from this guy for .99 each.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monsterwax-Spook-Show-Faint-Pill-MINT-SUPER-HARD-TO-FIND-/170795300461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c431766d
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 02, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 02, 2012, 06:19:30 PM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"

:: Raises Hand ::


...NOT! OMG That is one of the all-time nuttiest. Seriously.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 03, 2012, 06:36:29 AM

Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20


And $90 seems a bit high for Hoppy Meal - not sure of the market though

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Series-4-POSTCARD-BONUS-Card-HOPPY-MEAL-VERY-SCARCE-/120866753635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c24384c63
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 03, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20




Rare trim error.  :^)... That's what his barber said when he charged him double after accidentally removing a large divet of hair. Rare trim error indeed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 03, 2012, 07:30:50 AM
Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20


He sure can paint a happy face on a miscut wonder bread sticker with significant wear.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 03, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"

Gotta love that quality photo too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 03, 2012, 09:35:22 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20

The photo is pretty much going to sell this item alone.  It is a BEAUTY!  RARE!  Last of it's kind.  HTF! LOOK! You don't see these too often.  One sold recently for $200.  Don't wait!  Get it before someone else scoops it up.  This won't last long.  This sticker is MINT*!



*Except for the fact that it was left out in the scorching sun for 10 years, someone tried to clean it in the middle with some bleach, the glue softened and the sticker slid off it backing, the corners were nibbled on by rodents, it doesn't lay flat, it is actually a Wonderbread sticker, and it is slightly off-center.



Some of these auctions are starting to remind me of all those horrible infomercials that occurred back in the 1980's.  I can't believe they even believe what they are typing as a description sometimes.  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 03, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
Gotta love that quality photo too!

The original BIN was $100, but the seller has come to his senses and reduced to $50. :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 03, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 03, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!

Maybe it was just removed from the loaf this week.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 03, 2012, 06:02:21 PM
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!

What? Italian bread? I always find that my hands are so greasy when I grab a slice of bread out of the bag. Oh, it was Bog Bread. Talk about pinching a loaf. What a doof.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 04, 2012, 11:09:21 PM
I always wondered what the lowest PSA rating would be.  I couldn't imagine someone sending in a crap sticker for grading.  Well...I guess I now have the answer to my question.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

I wonder if there is a PSA 0.   LOL!  Funny stuff.  I can hear the conversation now, "I think I will send this crappy card in to see how crappy it is.  And, when it comes back with the worst rating, I am going to proudly display it in its PSA casing."

Did the guy ever consider taking it out of the case so someone might think it is better than a 1 rating?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 05, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

Quote from: seller
you've got two cards that are hard to add to your collection

Damn straight, dude! I wouldn't even consider adding that crapola to my collection, Ludlow or not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 05, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
The seller states "I knew going into the grading the cards were not in great shape, but I honestly felt they deserved higher than 1 and 2."

There is a lesson here....any card he lists as an EX is probably much closer to a VG. Any NM is probably an EX.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 05, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 05, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81
A little more fiberin your diet lucid, maybe you'll get some "good shit". :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 05, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
I always wondered what the lowest PSA rating would be.  I couldn't imagine someone sending in a crap sticker for grading.  Well...I guess I now have the answer to my question.
think about it though - the population report for these guys are probably just 1 each. How freakin' rare is that??? You can say you have the one and only PSA 1 Tied. There are no others!  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 05, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81

You can make an offer...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 05, 2012, 08:21:37 PM
think about it though - the population report for these guys are probably just 1 each. How freakin' rare is that??? You can say you have the one and only PSA 1 Tied. There are no others!  :great:

LOL!   ;D  Stop it, you are killing me!  Funny stuff!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 06, 2012, 01:33:30 PM
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=190649400454&pt=US_Baseball&_osacat=0&hash=item2c6396fc86&_ssn=j9suited

I would wager every one of these stickers is wonder bread. Under that assumption, and with about 1,000,000 uncirculated wonder bread sets floating around, is it really that hard to get PSA 9's and 10's? Overpriced to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 06, 2012, 09:30:11 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

What does the PR on the Tied card mean. The other says "good" in the same location. PR - pretty rediculous?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 06, 2012, 09:36:28 PM
What does the PR on the Tied card mean. The other says "good" in the same location. PR - pretty rediculous?

PR = PooR ?

or perhaps "Particularly Rank" ?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 08, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on March 08, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
Oak Lawn  Illinois  not too far from Joliet..............................................................disgusting!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 08, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?

lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 08, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"

Lol (not just sayin' it, I actually Loled). That's exactly what it looks like.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 08, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
This is the only eBay seller whose Wackies I specifically ignore in my search. Only schmuck in 11 years to deserve that honor.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 08, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"

Yeah, the WC (water closet)...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 08, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
Yeah, the WC (water closet)...

Easy George, your age is showing, tuck it back in.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 08, 2012, 06:24:10 PM
Easy George, your age is showing, tuck it back in.

 :D  You young whippersnappers! I remember when... uuhhm, what was I talking about?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on March 12, 2012, 07:04:14 PM
hmmm where can I get one of these sets?  I would be very interested in one.  I used to eat so much wonder bread just so my mom would go out and buy another loaf hahaha.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=190649400454&pt=US_Baseball&_osacat=0&hash=item2c6396fc86&_ssn=j9suited

I would wager every one of these stickers is wonder bread. Under that assumption, and with about 1,000,000 uncirculated wonder bread sets floating around, is it really that hard to get PSA 9's and 10's? Overpriced to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RaMpB on March 17, 2012, 03:54:53 AM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"
It's almost 7am and I woke the whole house up after reading your thread! 💩
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 18, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
This is the only eBay seller whose Wackies I specifically ignore in my search. Only schmuck in 11 years to deserve that honor.

Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 18, 2012, 11:32:49 AM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 
that's friggin' hilarious. the Knuckles is stuck on an O-Hairy border with the O-Hairy sticker stuck on the back. "Original" LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 18, 2012, 02:11:21 PM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8

What you see is what you get, he says! Right about that. At least there are no "stock" pictures of wackys on ebay. If that were the case, there'd be even more unhappy buyers out there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 18, 2012, 04:28:26 PM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8


I am glad he pointed out the small rip in the card that does not affect the sticker at all.  I really like an honest seller with full disclosure.  I never understood why he was charging $7.99 for the one sticker.  But, now I realize that there is a BONUS STICKER on the back.  This changes everything.

Sorry, I am all out of sarcasm for the moment so I will have to stop here.  I did contact this guy once and told him his Duxie rodent-chewed sticker was not worth listing and had no value.  Also, I told him that all he had to do was do a search for similar items and he would know this.  He was very bitter and sent me a lengthy response about how he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay one day.  It was a very strange response.  It made me laugh.  I wish I saved it.  The guy is a total kook.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 18, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
He was very bitter and sent me a lengthy response about how he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay one day.  It was a very strange response.  It made me laugh.  I wish I saved it.  The guy is a total kook.
I did save it 'cause I told him the same thing back in October and got the same response. Here it is:

Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !!

I love the part about how he can't wait to go nuts. Looks like the wait is quite over...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 18, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
Wow!  Sounded much like my email.  Thanks for the chuckles.  LOL!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 19, 2012, 05:34:06 PM
I did save it 'cause I told him the same thing back in October and got the same response. Here it is:

Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !!

I love the part about how he can't wait to go nuts. Looks like the wait is quite over...

It made me laugh again, even the second time reading it. Oh boy, has he listed his 2500 items yet. I am going nuts just waiting for that from the Legend! Legend of crap and jerkyness. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 22, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 22, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.

That's funny. I clicked on it and burst out laughing. Why don't these people have a clue?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 12:34:07 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.

Too funny! It's hard to tell, but doesn't it look like this sticker does not have a die-cut? I don't see any highlight along the kiss-cut edge that you would normally see.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 22, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Too funny! It's hard to tell, but doesn't it look like this sticker does not have a die-cut? I don't see any highlight along the kiss-cut edge that you would normally see.

It is really hard to tell but it doesn't look like it has a die-cut. Strange.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on March 22, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
That's funny. I clicked on it and burst out laughing. Why don't these people have a clue?

it looks like RATZ ate part of the border...at least its priced to SELL!!!SELL'M ALL :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
It is really hard to tell but it doesn't look like it has a die-cut. Strange.

Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 22, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)

Great to hear from you George. Do you know yet if you will make the Spring Philly Show?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 22, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.
As soon as I saw it, I LOLed big time. "It has some yellowing on it's edges". Yeah, all 3 of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
Great to hear from you George. Do you know yet if you will make the Spring Philly Show?

Hey! How have you been? Yep, I'll be at the Spring Show! I'm going to have a table at this show. Nothing spectacular, a few Wacky odds & ends. It will be the table with the least amount of stuff on it! LOL! I'm primarily going to talk Wackys, trade, etc. I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple) I will also have the original pencil roughs that were submitted to Topps for those pieces. I'm mostly looking forward to reconnecting with everyone!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 22, 2012, 04:16:56 PM
I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple)
oh no! more snubbed titles!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 22, 2012, 06:48:37 PM
Hey! How have you been? Yep, I'll be at the Spring Show! I'm going to have a table at this show. Nothing spectacular, a few Wacky odds & ends. It will be the table with the least amount of stuff on it! LOL! I'm primarily going to talk Wackys, trade, etc. I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple) I will also have the original pencil roughs that were submitted to Topps for those pieces. I'm mostly looking forward to reconnecting with everyone!

I like that title, Verbal Essence. It's instantly recognizable and make you curious to see it. I remember experiencing the same thing as a kid, when you looked at your puzzle piece checklist and read the titles you didn't yet have. Certain titles made you really anticipate finding that card when opening a pack and finally checking it out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 23, 2012, 12:53:07 AM
oh no! more snubbed titles!!!!!!  :o

Your choice of emoticon says it all! LOL! (btw, I've nicknamed my promo card piece "Snubbed Crackers"!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 25, 2012, 08:25:08 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wacky-Packages-Wax-Fun-Pack-PSA-7-NM-Highest-and-Only-Graded-Example-/190658296101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c641eb925

Gosh, it gets tedious listening to sellers twist themselves into knots trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. "Only example graded by PSA, only one I can find on ebay...." There are probably a hundred graded by GAI (PSA only became a big pack-grading destination once GAI imploded), and there have been scores on ebay in the past. One of the most common unopened packs in wackydom, but you wouldn't know it from this description.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 25, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)

Ok, which one of you was bidding against me on the JerkyFruits. :)

Seriously, I just had to buy this to see what the hell is up with this card and then I wasn't the only bidder! lol! But I won it! So fess up!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 26, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
Ok, which one of you was bidding against me on the JerkyFruits. :)

Seriously, I just had to buy this to see what the hell is up with this card and then I wasn't the only bidder! lol! But I won it! So fess up!  :o

Wasn't me, but I'd like to know what the deal with this card is when you get it too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 07:59:06 AM
Wasn't me, but I'd like to know what the deal with this card is when you get it too.

Wasn't me, either! I would also like to know what the deal is with it. I'm leaning toward my two original thoughts: It's either a poorly trimmed, home printed knockoff...  or a poorly trimmed sticker from an unscored sheet. Any other speculations?  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 26, 2012, 08:15:25 AM
Wasn't me, either! I would also like to know what the deal is with it. I'm leaning toward my two original thoughts: It's either a poorly trimmed, home printed knockoff...  or a poorly trimmed sticker from an unscored sheet. Any other speculations?  :]

I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM
I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.

It will be interesting to find out if the seller doesn't have a clue as to what they are actually selling, or if they are a real hack of a counterfeit artist!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 26, 2012, 09:04:16 AM
I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.
Maybe he consigns for antiquefloyd.  lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Maybe he consigns for antiquefloyd.  lol

Prolly!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 26, 2012, 10:37:02 AM
I'll definitely post the results of my forensic examination once I receive the card. Figured it'll be $1.89 of entertainment one way or another! :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 11:02:14 AM
I'll definitely post the results of my forensic examination once I receive the card. Figured it'll be $1.89 of entertainment one way or another! :)

In this episode of WPCSI...  8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 02, 2012, 11:06:18 AM
In this episode of WPCSI...  8)

I got the card a few days ago and I decided to start a new thread on the JerkyFruits card here (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2131).

Let's put "WPCSI" in front of any odd cards we find like this as a hint that some kind of investigation is going on (love it, Soremel!).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on April 02, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
I got the card a few days ago and I decided to start a new thread on the JerkyFruits card here (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2131).

Let's put "WPCSI" in front of any odd cards we find like this as a hint that some kind of investigation is going on (love it, Soremel!).
YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT WITH THE CLEMENTE BOBBLEHEAD
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 02, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 02, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)

"THIS IS THE ONLY PERFECT 10 CARD THAT PSA HAS GRADED FROM THIS SET!"  Yeah, because no one is dumb enough to have a tag card graded! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 02, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)

Amazing. But hey, you get FREE domestic shipping! ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on April 02, 2012, 07:39:55 PM
Amazing. But hey, you get FREE domestic shipping! ;)

My little ovals are intact in all my sets!    I must have a fortune !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 09, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
Somehow I don't think these are Topps' approved...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cool-Wacky-Packages-Clock-with-8-classic-wrapper-and-4-sticker-images-/170763789141?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c250a355

Maybe Topps would give me a reward for turning them in? :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on April 11, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
Somehow I don't think these are Topps' approved...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cool-Wacky-Packages-Clock-with-8-classic-wrapper-and-4-sticker-images-/170763789141?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c250a355

Maybe Topps would give me a reward for turning them in? :)

They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 11, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.
no doubt. that thing is really pathetic. and it seems like they just lifted images off of Greg's site too, as it looks like there are drop shadows around the card images.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 11, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.

It's absolutely horrible!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on April 11, 2012, 10:47:46 PM
It's absolutely horrible!

Well said! 

It says that there are more than 10 available.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 12, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
Well said! 

It says that there are more than 10 available.  Yikes!
My Guess is that they have an unlimited supply of clocks with empty picture slots that they create for many different topics. If they have a run on wacky clocks, they can fire up the printer and bang out as many as necessary.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 14, 2012, 02:53:58 AM

$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 14, 2012, 09:10:30 AM
$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a

Couple guys that have no clue about the market.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 14, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
Couple guys that have no clue about the market.

In the case of darby-s (Dan McKee), I don't think it's cluelessness about the market so much as optimism that someone will jump at the many rare but low grade items he lists at aggressive prices.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 14, 2012, 12:08:11 PM
In the case of darby-s (Dan McKee), I don't think it's cluelessness about the market so much as optimism that someone will jump at the many rare but low grade items he lists at aggressive prices.

It's funny how that guy never seems to sell anything in nice shape.  Does he use his cards on his bicycle spokes before he tries to sell them?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 14, 2012, 12:19:48 PM

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a


You know a price is insane when you can take a digit away and it's still a little high! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 14, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
It's funny how that guy never seems to sell anything in nice shape.  Does he use his cards on his bicycle spokes before he tries to sell them?

My guess would be he is only using ebay to try to move lower quality stuff. He mostly deals in very old BB cards I think. He was once big in wackys, but I haven't seen him being very active in wackys for years, so he may just continually list stuff in the hope of moving it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 14, 2012, 05:49:23 PM
It made me laugh again, even the second time reading it. Oh boy, has he listed his 2500 items yet. I am going nuts just waiting for that from the Legend! Legend of crap and jerkyness.  

If he started them at a penny each as he says, he just might sell one...  I don't think he has sold any yet.  So, he is just throwing his money away in listing fees.   I guess he has never heard of quality before quantity...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 14, 2012, 07:01:10 PM
$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d


I think $250 is probably a more realistic number. I won a popped Ratz several years ago at auction for a little over $500, but after I found a better one & I tried to sell my punched one - which was in pretty nice shape, I was only able to get $250 for it about a year ago. I find the market soft on all but the hardest to find stuff & the stuff in outsanding condition.


and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a


I sold mine about a year ago for $200. It was a very tough 1st series title. Sketch cards have been brutalized lately, so my guess is it would go for much less now, probably closer to $100 if you can even find a buyer.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 18, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
I've been watching this auction in the hopes of picking up a few upgrades for my 14th trifold set. Are these that rare that this bid explosion isn't totally crazy? Does anyone know if there are any really tough titles in this set?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220999581240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 18, 2012, 09:44:33 AM
I've been watching this auction in the hopes of picking up a few upgrades for my 14th trifold set. Are these that rare that this bid explosion isn't totally crazy? Does anyone know if there are any really tough titles in this set?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220999581240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Based on my experience with these they are pretty rare but not enough people collect them for the prices to sell high.  Of course this auction says otherwise.  My experience has been seeing singles selling in the $7.50-$10.00 each range.  I don't believe any titles are rarer than others.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 18, 2012, 09:56:44 AM
Based on my experience with these they are pretty rare but not enough people collect them for the prices to sell high.  Of course this auction says otherwise.  My experience has been seeing singles selling in the $7.50-$10.00 each range.  I don't believe any titles are rarer than others.



That's about right. I sold a near set about 2 years ago and only received about $175. I think it was only missing one card. They weren't NM either so that could be part of it. I really wonder if these are as nice as pictured though. This auction looks like it has 2 guys going after it. That's always great when you're the seller!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 18, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
That's about right. I sold a near set about 2 years ago and only received about $175. I think it was only missing one card. They weren't NM either so that could be part of it. I really wonder if these are as nice as pictured though. This auction looks like it has 2 guys going after it. That's always great when you're the seller!

He also needs to make up for the FB1 gold set auction!  Wouldn't it be something if the tri-fold set sold for more than the FB1 gold set?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2012, 11:44:37 AM
He also needs to make up for the FB1 gold set auction!  Wouldn't it be something if the tri-fold set sold for more than the FB1 gold set?

I get your point, but frankly the tri-folds SHOULD sell for more. I know which set I'd rather have.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 21, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
did someone actually buy one of these sets? I really hope not.

common PC8 set + promo auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item5649e39b9d&item=370606840733&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=HLdZ2HIoJ2603InyCjBSbkBwa%252FM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1264)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on April 21, 2012, 03:47:03 PM
here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILLY-SHOW-EXCLUSIVE-2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-BIO-CARD-SET-RARE-BONUS-/120900065957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c26349aa5 :bs:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 21, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
did someone actually buy one of these sets? I really hope not.

common PC8 set + promo auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item5649e39b9d&item=370606840733&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=HLdZ2HIoJ2603InyCjBSbkBwa%252FM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1264)


Someone just blew $200 without even bothering to research what they were buying? :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 26, 2012, 07:56:28 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 26, 2012, 08:01:37 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

It's either someone who doesn't know it's value or collects the miscuts and it's worth that much to them.  strange. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 26, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
I think someone got overly excited because #36 is fairly common.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 30, 2012, 08:55:19 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.
They do look pretty nice though. I agree, they are way over priced. Make him an offer?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 30, 2012, 09:26:06 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.

I saw those too. I'm not sure of the point in listing items at that price unless he hopes to get off ebay offers. I think those numbers would even scare offers away since the prices are so outrageous.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 30, 2012, 09:32:46 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.

Dave, I know GAI is not reliable at all for getting the series right on packs that shared wrappers between series. I have personally been victim to buying GAI packs labeled with the wrong series. How are they on authentication? I see so few PSA graded packs, and I wonder if they have a higher reject rate & people are wary of submitting & getting rejected...  Considering GAI is unreliebale, they still seem to be where most "authenticated" packs come from on ebay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
Dave, I know GAI is not reliable at all for getting the series right on packs that shared wrappers between series. I have personally been victim to buying GAI packs labeled with the wrong series. How are they on authentication? I see so few PSA graded packs, and I wonder if they have a higher reject rate & people are wary of submitting & getting rejected...  Considering GAI is unreliebale, they still seem to be where most "authenticated" packs come from on ebay.

PSA is definitely the most reliable service for grading wax packs. That said, they have only been doing it for a relatively short time, so most of the existing secondary market of graded packs will be GAI.

I wish I could say that GAI has a spotless record for rejecting fakes, but that's not the case. Some have studied it carefully and
feel more comfortable with certain GAI graded packs based on the era (as reflected by the serial number). I would not be comfortable buying a GAI graded pack sight unseen unless it was returnable.

The source of the pack is much more important to me than it being GAI certified. For example, the 4th series packs from this
seller are clearly the Greg Schwartz packs, which I know are real, so I'd be confident buying those at the right price. The seller needs to add back scans for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Also, as I've pointed out before, be wary of high grade encapsulated packs, because if they are really fresh (ie gum can move around) they will often have tears from the gum penetrating the wrapper. That appears to be the case in this 4th
series pack, for example:

(http://s19.postimage.org/6kzrmqv6r/Picture_1.png)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 30, 2012, 08:13:03 PM
Does anyone know who ebay id topazzer(From Illinois) belongs to?

He seems to be a psychopath who in his first message to me, explained that he knows nothing about Saunders artwork prices but lectured me on my high buy it now prices.  I explained the obvious to the idiot that I list BINS with accepting offers to do off ebay deals.  I questioned why he claims to know nothing about Saunders art prices yet he is lecturing me.....his response:

"You obviously don't understand English.  I've explained myself very well, and you either can't or won't comprehend.  BOTTOM LINE:  You have ADMITTEDLY overpriced the piece on eBay, by YOUR OWN STANDARDS (asking $10K for an item you seem to value at $4K-$7K).  Further, you admitted to fishing for offers for a PRIVATE SALE, which, if not blatantly against eBay rules is certainly "bending" them to some degree to avoid an eBay commission.  Tsk. I don't think eBay would be too pleased with that, would they?  Don't bother to respond to me again, please.  Continue to list your pedestrian piece at high multiples, and maybe say a few prayers that someone eventually will take it off your hands at a high price.  Not familiar with the "forum" you quoted, but anyone frequenting eBay knows there are a lot of unrealistic and greedy sleazebags looking to rip off foolish/desperate/neophyte collectors/buyers. " 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 30, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
Does anyone know who ebay id topazzer(From Illinois) belongs to?

He seems to be a psychopath who in his first message to me, explained that he knows nothing about Saunders artwork prices but lectured me on my high buy it now prices.  I explained the obvious to the idiot that I list BINS with accepting offers to do off ebay deals.  I questioned why he claims to know nothing about Saunders art prices yet he is lecturing me.....his response:

"You obviously don't understand English.  I've explained myself very well, and you either can't or won't comprehend.  BOTTOM LINE:  You have ADMITTEDLY overpriced the piece on eBay, by YOUR OWN STANDARDS (asking $10K for an item you seem to value at $4K-$7K).  Further, you admitted to fishing for offers for a PRIVATE SALE, which, if not blatantly against eBay rules is certainly "bending" them to some degree to avoid an eBay commission.  Tsk. I don't think eBay would be too pleased with that, would they?  Don't bother to respond to me again, please.  Continue to list your pedestrian piece at high multiples, and maybe say a few prayers that someone eventually will take it off your hands at a high price.  Not familiar with the "forum" you quoted, but anyone frequenting eBay knows there are a lot of unrealistic and greedy sleazebags looking to rip off foolish/desperate/neophyte collectors/buyers. " 

Never heard of this person but it is true though as I mentioned in my eBay thread. A lot of times buyers don't understand your intentions so they are reluctant to make an off eBay offer as it could be an insult to the seller. Some done even know you can contact a seller to see about getting a better deal. It's just human nature. If you really want to unload put it at the least price you would accept otherwise you will have to deal with these types of responses. Keep in mind people don't like to buy from a stranger without having some type of protection. They don't care if you have to pay fees.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 30, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
Never heard of this person but it is true though as I mentioned in my eBay thread. A lot of times buyers don't understand your intentions so they are reluctant to make an off eBay offer as it could be an insult to the seller. Some done even know you can contact a seller to see about getting a better deal. It's just human nature. If you really want to unload put it at the least price you would accept otherwise you will have to deal with these types of responses. Keep in mind people don't like to buy from a stranger without having some type of protection. They don't care if you have to pay fees.
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on May 01, 2012, 05:00:14 AM
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.


He just wants to give you shit - one because you have a piece that's worth big bucks and two he's JEALOUS!!!Now we not only have EVilbay BUT we have EvilBay self-appointed police minnions...that's just SUPER!! :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 06:06:58 AM
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.


I'd say that if he admitted he had no money, and he's not buying anything, you'd have a loooooong wait to get a meaningful answer from him considering he has the time and inclination to find auctions he has no involvement with and to make agressive correspondence. My advice would be to just move on unless you're looking for aggravation, frustration or amusement.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
I'd say that if he admitted he had no money, and he's not buying anything, you'd have a loooooong wait to get a meaningful answer from him considering he has the time and inclination to find auctions he has no involvement with and to make agressive correspondence. My advice would be to just move on unless you're looking for aggravation, frustration or amusement.
I get amusement from things like this but I want go back and forth much longer with the tool as it seems he wants to get nastier and nastier.  I am pretty sure this is the alter id of a regular wacky pack collector and not someone who just happened to stumble on my Norm Saunders ebay auction.   I asked him if he has been critiquing the guy who has been trying to sell the Saunders batman art for months on end for this high BINs and it seems to have shut him up. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 02:22:49 PM
He just wants to give you shit - one because you have a piece that's worth big bucks and two he's JEALOUS!!!Now we not only have EVilbay BUT we have EvilBay self-appointed police minnions...that's just SUPER!! :] :] :]
This truly made me laugh out loud!  I may have to use that phrase "EvilBay self-appointed police minnions".  I used to be the self appointed ebay police but at least I knew what the hell I was talking about.  Now I don't even bother to police ebay as ebay has made it clear they fully condone shilling with the implementation of the protected bidder ids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
This truly made me laugh out loud!  I may have to use that phrase "EvilBay self-appointed police minnions".  I used to be the self appointed ebay police but at least I knew what the hell I was talking about.  Now I don't even bother to police ebay as ebay has made it clear they fully condone shilling with the implementation of the protected bidder ids.


I got the impression that they instituted the scrambled IDs to prevent people from being solicited by others selling stuff similar to what someone won. I remember people contacting me after I won something & also contacting others that I thought might be interested in something I had to sell because they won or bid on something similar. At the time, I thought it may have been cutting them out of too many deals and hurting their revenues..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 07:15:27 PM
I got the impression that they instituted the scrambled IDs to prevent people from being solicited by others selling stuff similar to what someone won. I remember people contacting me after I won something & also contacting others that I thought might be interested in something I had to sell because they won or bid on something similar. At the time, I thought it may have been cutting them out of too many deals and hurting their revenues..
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 01, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.

You need to have some way to communicate. I think you can get anyones info by supplying just their username. This includes address and phone number. eBay will notify you that someone inquired about you but that's about it. I've had it happen to me.
Edit- I just double check and you can as long as you are bidding on their auction. It could be a $.99 bid and you can get all their contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.

If you have someone's ebay ID, you can send them the equivalent of a PM on ebay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 10:54:42 PM
If you have someone's ebay ID, you can send them the equivalent of a PM on ebay.
Only if you are in a transaction with them or current bidder on their auction. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 05:54:29 AM
You need to have some way to communicate. I think you can get anyones info by supplying just their username. This includes address and phone number. eBay will notify you that someone inquired about you but that's about it. I've had it happen to me.
Edit- I just double check and you can as long as you are bidding on their auction. It could be a $.99 bid and you can get all their contact info.

All you need to be able to do is send an ebay user a question using ebay's messaging system. It could say - "Hey, I saw you like to buy wackys & I have a Ratz diecut in nm. I'm selling for $2500, please contact me at bill@email.com if interested."

I just sent Ernie an "ebay PM" and I have no open transactions with him, and I'm not bidding on any of his items. Hopefully he can confirm if the message went through or it was dropped.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 06:13:59 AM
There are a couple of other noteworthy points regarding contacting ebay members. They provide alternatives to contact buyers from directly reading the IDs from completed auctions, but do require a little creativity & extra work.

1. Aside from the blind PM to a user, you can ask any user with a listing a question. Granted you have to bypass ebay's attempt to automatically answer the question and send you on your way, but as long as you insist on asking the seller, you can send them a message. Once you get to that form, you can ask them about anything & include your e-mail address for an offline response.

2. Although the scrambling IDs prevents direct knowlegde of a winner's ebay user ID, as many of the forum detectives already know from trying to track down rare items like the fang glass, you can watch a seller's feedback, and that will show the buyer's ID for the auction provided the feedback isn't private and the seller leaves feedback.

3. Additionally, the scrambling is not random. Once your ID is scrambled, it's the same in all auctions. Once you confirm a bunch of heavy hitting bidders, you can usually tell who the bidder is even if it's scrambled. I know any sketch auction that has a f**9(x) bidder is Leslie. To confirm, you just have to match the feedback number in the bidder's list to their actual feedback once you look up their ID.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 07:17:48 AM
All you need to be able to do is send an ebay user a question using ebay's messaging system. It could say - "Hey, I saw you like to buy wackys & I have a Ratz diecut in nm. I'm selling for $2500, please contact me at bill@email.com if interested."

I just sent Ernie an "ebay PM" and I have no open transactions with him, and I'm not bidding on any of his items. Hopefully he can confirm if the message went through or it was dropped.
I'm not talking a standard PM, I'm talking about getting someone's Name, address, & Phone number. You can get it all by just bidding on someone's auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 07:31:18 AM
I'm not talking a standard PM, I'm talking about getting someone's Name, address, & Phone number. You can get it all by just bidding on someone's auction.

How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 08:08:51 AM
How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Go to ebay home page. Click on advanced and then click on find contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 02, 2012, 08:22:46 AM


1. Aside from the blind PM to a user, you can ask any user with a listing a question. Granted you have to bypass ebay's attempt to automatically answer the question and send you on your way, but as long as you insist on asking the seller, you can send them a message. Once you get to that form, you can ask them about anything & include your e-mail address for an offline response.

 

I tried to message a seller my e-mail address so he could send me detailed scans once, ebay censored it and it did not go through.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 08:47:15 AM
I tried to message a seller my e-mail address so he could send me detailed scans once, ebay censored it and it did not go through.

Did they remove the e-mail address or did they block the message? Do you remember how long ago it was? I remember they have limited different types of communication at different times. I regularly send my e-mail address iin messages to ebay sellers without a problem.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 02, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
Did they remove the e-mail address or did they block the message? Do you remember how long ago it was? I remember they have limited different types of communication at different times. I regularly send my e-mail address iin messages to ebay sellers without a problem.

I've had email addresses removed several times but the messages do go through.  I believe this can be circumvented by putting spaces or something that won't be picked up as an email address in ebay's search software.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 02, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
I've had email addresses removed several times but the messages do go through.  I believe this can be circumvented by putting spaces or something that won't be picked up as an email address in ebay's search software.

Remember the good old days when people used an actual email address as an ebay ID??  As I recall, after that ended there was the "About Me" link, where people could put links and email addresses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 02, 2012, 06:27:55 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 02, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Actually my main point before this got off target was that ebay scrambling ids prevented being able to track shilllers more than it impacted the ability to contact people for off ebay deals.  So while you were correct that you can contact people without being in a transaction with them, my point is still valid, the scrambling ids deters tracking shillers without a lot of extra work.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.

I know. It drives me crazy. I think the whole Ebay thing is getting way out of control. They seem like Netflix that they thought they could change a bunch of things and no one would care.now we seeNetflix hurting pretty bad. This will/could hurt eBay. The problem with being a a public traded company is you need to please your shareholders and make,ore profit.ebay can't droit with their business model so they are going after all the sellers to comply with their rules. They are trying to attract more buyers. It's all about the buyers while the sellers are getting penalized. It sucks but if you want to sell you have to pay the price and follow the rules. If most boycotted eBay it would fail but at this time it's all we have. You can say there are alternatives butno one will comply because of the of the exposure. I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 10:00:06 PM
Sorry about all the spelling errors in the previous post. My iPad has a mind of its own. I don't understand why if you backspace a word it soesnt spell check? Is it just my iPad?

Edit- see is soesnt even a word?i just tried to type soesnt and it now wants to change it to doesn't. If I hit backspace it won't change or offer a suggestion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 03, 2012, 05:41:53 AM
Sorry about all the spelling errors in the previous post. My iPad has a mind of its own. I don't understand why if you backspace a word it soesnt spell check? Is it just my iPad?

Edit- see is soesnt even a word?i just tried to type soesnt and it now wants to change it to doesn't. If I hit backspace it won't change or offer a suggestion.

Just proofread your post and don't rely on spellchecking. I hate spellchecking, it has singlehandedly ruined newspapers. They're no longer properly proofread, so that any word that exists, even if it's used improperly, gets through. Here are sentences you would now see in formerly respectable newspapers:

"Junior Seau found read."
"Pause of death unknown."

Ugh.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2012, 06:27:39 AM
I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!

I think it's a little more complicated than that. There may be a few hundred people here at best compared to millions on ebay. I've listed several items to buy sell or trade here over the past couple of years and gotten little to no response. I also don't see much of a difference between using the classified section and the Buy, Sell or Trade threads. If the selling/trading demand on the forum were ramping up, a better search tool & the like might be warranted in a separate classified area, but the volume is just not there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 03, 2012, 08:28:42 AM
I think it's a little more complicated than that. There may be a few hundred people here at best compared to millions on ebay. I've listed several items to buy sell or trade here over the past couple of years and gotten little to no response. I also don't see much of a difference between using the classified section and the Buy, Sell or Trade threads. If the selling/trading demand on the forum were ramping up, a better search tool & the like might be warranted in a separate classified area, but the volume is just not there.

I agree.........you may get lucky here on the forum and it's obviously nice to not have fees and deal with fellow collectors that we know, but you are comparing a much smaller scale on the forum vs. ebay.  You get much more exposure on ebay.  Unfortunately there are a lot of collectors who buy Wackys and aren't involved in this forum. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 03, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
I know. It drives me crazy. I think the whole Ebay thing is getting way out of control. They seem like Netflix that they thought they could change a bunch of things and no one would care.now we seeNetflix hurting pretty bad. This will/could hurt eBay. The problem with being a a public traded company is you need to please your shareholders and make,ore profit.ebay can't droit with their business model so they are going after all the sellers to comply with their rules. They are trying to attract more buyers. It's all about the buyers while the sellers are getting penalized. It sucks but if you want to sell you have to pay the price and follow the rules. If most boycotted eBay it would fail but at this time it's all we have. You can say there are alternatives butno one will comply because of the of the exposure. I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!

There's a lot of irony in this. If this does in fact cause ebay to become less popular, then this will drive away people. I personally like to sell on ebay do not have to. Especially if it become a big pain to me. If this happens to many other sellers like me then they just might stop because it is just too much of a hassle. I, by the way have a great 100 percent feedback rating and has had at least 97 percent success with hundreds of transactions. The irony is that I know I will buy less off of ebay with these new rules and if everyone else thinks that way, then the greedy shareholders will end up losing out anyway. If they are not going to support me, then why would I support them? Man, does the system have to be set up to send every business down the same toilet?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.

Are these changes already set with a deadline or are they in discussion? I had heard ebay is trying to move more to an amazon type model with professional sellers, shopping carts & a unified experience. Problem is that ebay has so much more of a garage sale type of feel rather than a store type atmosphere. I don't think the 2 types of business will do well together. Sounds like ebay should spin off a separate division for the casual seller or seller with antique, used or unique type stuff. If they don't a smaller competitor  will probably step in and get the sellers that won't or can't deal with ebay's new rules.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on May 04, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 04, 2012, 05:55:55 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9

Holy Crap! At least they have a 14 day return policy. It looks like the same person bidding on them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 04, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9

I think there are only 2 possibilities here - 2 newbies, or a newbie & a shill. I would be VERY surprised if it were the first case because you rarely see borderless junk like this sell at all, much less have 2 people fighting over it for $15 to $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 05, 2012, 09:52:47 AM
Holy Crap! At least they have a 14 day return policy. It looks like the same person bidding on them.

But if they bought them actually thinking they were 1969 Wacky Ads then how will they know they screwed up?  Someone would have to tell them.  The items were obviously misrepresented, hopefully unknowingly.     
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 05, 2012, 09:56:43 AM
I think there are only 2 possibilities here - 2 newbies, or a newbie & a shill. I would be VERY surprised if it were the first case because you rarely see borderless junk like this sell at all, much less have 2 people fighting over it for $15 to $20.

I don't think it was a shill because who would bother shilling an item like that that is virtually worthless?  I bet the buyer is a newbie and believed the item description that they are Wacky Ads, and saw other Wacky Ad prices as a comparison.

It's funny because auctions like this that make you scratch your head happen more frequently than you would think.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on May 06, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
I don't think it was a shill because who would bother shilling an item like that that is virtually worthless?  I bet the buyer is a newbie and believed the item description that they are Wacky Ads, and saw other Wacky Ad prices as a comparison.

It's funny because auctions like this that make you scratch your head happen more frequently than you would think.

The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 06, 2012, 05:54:08 PM
The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.

Well at least I know my hunch was correct!  Trust me, most of us that collect Wackys have made similar mistakes early on.  You see something and don't recognize it, and then get excited because it looks like it might be something special, and buy it.  I used to have a quick trigger finger in my first year or two of collecting, but as you learn you figure out you are almost always better off to research and scrutinize carefully before you buy, because 99% of the time it will just be either something misrepresented or just ordinary swill.  With resources like Greg Grant's site, Rusty's site, the Wacky Gallery, and of course this place and other archived forums, the answers can usually be found in there somewhere.

Although it is possible that some sort of test run might still surface, most have already been discovered, and once you've seen a bunch of borderless cards you know what they are as soon as you see them.

Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 06, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

I think the seller said they were 1969 wacky ads.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 06, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.

It did look flush in the picture, even after knowing what was posted here, when I looked at the pic. I thought the same thing you were thinking about it possibly being something unusual. But, I don't know of any unusual items that fit that criteria except I think the '73 mail in posters of an uncut sheet may have that same look to it when viewing a single title.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on May 07, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Well at least I know my hunch was correct!  Trust me, most of us that collect Wackys have made similar mistakes early on.  You see something and don't recognize it, and then get excited because it looks like it might be something special, and buy it.  I used to have a quick trigger finger in my first year or two of collecting, but as you learn you figure out you are almost always better off to research and scrutinize carefully before you buy, because 99% of the time it will just be either something misrepresented or just ordinary swill.  With resources like Greg Grant's site, Rusty's site, the Wacky Gallery, and of course this place and other archived forums, the answers can usually be found in there somewhere.

Although it is possible that some sort of test run might still surface, most have already been discovered, and once you've seen a bunch of borderless cards you know what they are as soon as you see them.

Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

  

Live and learn -  I think I'll keep them, so I have a reminder not jump to conclusions in the future and ask here 1st if I think I found something new and possibly unique.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 07, 2012, 07:08:15 PM
Live and learn -  I think I'll keep them, so I have a reminder not jump to conclusions in the future and ask here 1st if I think I found something new and possibly unique.

Yup, lotsa folks here can tell ya.

Not me so much, I kinda get forgetful if I don't think about or if we don't discuss a certain topic too often. But I do know what I know, ya know?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 09, 2012, 10:55:59 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 09, 2012, 11:10:08 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey

They were gone before I even got to check the auction. Did someone here get it, or was it just a coincidence??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 09, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey
Your wish is my command, LOL. I don't even know if I need them, but I'll certainly pass them along to someone, if I don't.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on May 13, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 13, 2012, 05:39:49 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db


It's a Mutt's Ajerx? I can see why the seller has a 100% approval rating.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 21, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db

The same Mutts that attacked that Ajerx card ate his homework too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 21, 2012, 07:03:15 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db


I think my favorite part about that auction is the fact that you can zoom in so close to the card.  You think that thing sucks from far away, take a look with the zoom in feature.  YIKES...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 21, 2012, 08:48:01 PM

I think my favorite part about that auction is the fact that you can zoom in so close to the card.  You think that thing sucks from far away, take a look with the zoom in feature.  YIKES...

And it's an ultra rare, hard to find tan back with even tanner front.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 21, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
"IT IS MUTTS AJERX" explains everything.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 05:52:23 AM

This is NOT the Croca Cola with the rare back variation (Winter 2010)!....................

(http://s14.postimage.org/hx4ibkty5/Screen_shot_2012_05_22_at_8_49_41_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hx4ibkty5/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 06:03:28 AM
This is NOT the Croca Cola with the rare back variation (Winter 2010)!....................

(http://s14.postimage.org/hx4ibkty5/Screen_shot_2012_05_22_at_8_49_41_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hx4ibkty5/)

Yes, I saw that listing too. They were very careful to say the sticker was rare, but not the rarer version of the sticker.  As Greg Brady says... you'd better caveat your emptor for people trying to guild the lily!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 06:15:48 AM
I'm all for paying a bit of a premium for hard to find items, or items that have a vague or interesting history. I think this one is a bit extreme pricewise. Does anyone know anything about its history? I'll bet the bidders may have thought it's a very rare wacky ad to spend this much. A decent GoodnEmpty just finished last week for $510 - only $75 more!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item25708a0c83&item=160801885315&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221020725745&nma=true&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 22, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
I can't understand why anyone values these lost wackys highly. They're cool to look at, but why should they be worth any
more than a Ratz or Cracked repro? They were made up by a collector, one might as well cut the image out of the gallery
and paste it onto a card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 07:38:08 AM
I can't understand why anyone values these lost wackys highly. They're cool to look at, but why should they be worth any
more than a Ratz or Cracked repro? They were made up by a collector, one might as well cut the image out of the gallery
and paste it onto a card.

I also think they (lost wacky items - stickers, this card, test stickers & posters) are cool to look at. They have lost art that was never used for an actual wacky, yet was produced by the original artists at the same time as the original wackys were released. The quality is good too. Dedicated people to the hobby worked to produce items that were true to the original series. For these reasons, I believe the lost wackys in general are noteworthy. These reasons would also cause me to try and get a copy, even at a bit of a premium. IMO, this premium is too much for me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
I'm all for paying a bit of a premium for hard to find items, or items that have a vague or interesting history. I think this one is a bit extreme pricewise. Does anyone know anything about its history? I'll bet the bidders may have thought it's a very rare wacky ad to spend this much. A decent GoodnEmpty just finished last week for $510 - only $75 more!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item25708a0c83&item=160801885315&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221020725745&nma=true&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

LOL, that's crazy.......I have one of those that I use a filler for the open spot in my binder book.  I think I paid $5.00 for it.  I can see paying maybe $20.00 for one, but over $400.00??  There's a very good chance it was done on a home printer too.  I think some people think that some of these Lost Wackys are some how special, like something Topps had printed at one point and then they somehow leaked out into the market.  If they knew some of them were simply repro's done on some dude's home ink-jet printer I doubt they would pay that much for it!   



 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
LOL, that's crazy.......I have one of those that I use a filler for the open spot in my binder book.  I think I paid $5.00 for it.  I can see paying maybe $20.00 for one, but over $400.00??  There's a very good chance it was done on a home printer too.  I think some people think that some of these Lost Wackys are some how special, like something Topps had printed at one point and then they somehow leaked out into the market.  If they knew some of them were simply repro's done on some dude's home ink-jet printer I doubt they would pay that much for it!   



 
I'll take it for $20 if you're selling...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
I'll take it for $20 if you're selling...

Ha! it's in my keeper set and very little comes out of there once it goes in!  Ask Rusty if he'll print you one.  I haven't dug into it but I bet they are from him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 01, 2012, 11:58:02 PM
eBay auction: #160809834033
Comes in a protective case!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 02, 2012, 02:46:16 AM
eBay auction: #160809834033
Comes in a protective case! Nuff said!

Looks like it was way too late.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 02, 2012, 08:10:08 AM
Looks like it was way too late.

If this actually sells, I'm going to start selling used toilet paper in protective cases...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 02, 2012, 10:55:31 AM

Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 02, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)


Hmmm, I seem to see more of the "Winter 2010" than the "February 2010" available on eBay... What is the source of the two variations?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 02, 2012, 05:46:30 PM
Spending ~$30 on even the more rare variation seems a bit NUTS to me.

Curious: were the three of these always won with just one bid?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 02, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
If this actually sells, I'm going to start selling used toilet paper in protective cases...

I would consider buying this item for $3, just to see your used tp auction!  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2012, 11:30:53 AM
Hmmm, I seem to see more of the "Winter 2010" than the "February 2010" available on eBay... What is the source of the two variations?

The original ones were the "winter" variation and were quickly changed to "February".  The "Winter" ones were handed-out at the 2009 Fall Philly Show, but all after that were changed to "February 2010".  The "Winter" ones have always been very common.  I think I had a stack of @ 20 of them at one point because Topps was throwing them in with various online items. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 03, 2012, 12:30:19 PM
The original ones were the "winter" variation and were quickly changed to "February".  The "Winter" ones were handed-out at the 2009 Fall Philly Show, but all after that were changed to "February 2010".  The "Winter" ones have always been very common.  I think I had a stack of @ 20 of them at one point because Topps was throwing them in with various online items. 

I thought the 'Winter' version was the tougher one.  I know I have extras of the February version.  And, although the winter version was originally from a Philly show, I didn't specify origins in the postcard master list because I received one of that version in an order from Topps.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 03, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
I thought the 'Winter' version was the tougher one.  I know I have extras of the February version.  And, although the winter version was originally from a Philly show, I didn't specify origins in the postcard master list because I received one of that version in an order from Topps.


The Winter is the tougher variation. I have a few Feb. ones but I had to pay some bucks for the Winter card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 04, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Damn it, now I gotta check if mines is Winter or February.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 04, 2012, 08:54:50 PM
Damn it, now I gotta check if mines is Winter or February.  >(

Or the blank back variation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 04, 2012, 09:43:41 PM
Or the blank back variation.

I thought there were at least three variations, possibly four?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 04, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)


According to the auction description, this item is “HTF”      I haven’t seen that one before      Maybe the proper reply is    :wtf:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 05, 2012, 08:46:29 AM
I thought there were at least three variations, possibly four?
My recollection is there are three.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
My recollection is there are three.
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 05, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.

Now the blank back must be HTF.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 05, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.

That's right, and that one is die-cut unlike the other two.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 05, 2012, 02:26:36 PM
That's right, and that one is die-cut unlike the other two.

And it's a sticker, whereas the promos with Winter and February reverses are cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
Now the blank back must be HTF.

No, you can get them pretty cheap on ebay. I don't have any extras though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 03:07:07 PM
And it's a sticker, whereas the promos with Winter and February reverses are cards.

Look at that, it's right there in Pat's amazing master list thread. I wonder if we should add rare and common to each item?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 05, 2012, 06:23:51 PM
No, you can get them pretty cheap on ebay. I don't have any extras though.

Just checked my Croca Cola's. Have 2 w/promo backs w/o Feb on the fronts and 1 blank back w/coming Feb on front, no winters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on June 05, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
Just saw these on eBay:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-pack-Senior-Mints-card-32-/270992411990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18680d56#ht_500wt_1218 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-pack-Senior-Mints-card-32-/270992411990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18680d56#ht_500wt_1218) , are these two used ANS2 stickers someone mistakenly thinks are worth $40 or $50?

There's also a re-stuck (?) Paul Mall going for $4.99: http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-CARD-PAUL-MAUL-NICE-CARD-/160817374444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25717664ec#ht_500wt_985 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-CARD-PAUL-MAUL-NICE-CARD-/160817374444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25717664ec#ht_500wt_985) soon to be followed by 200 more cards ... guess even some "top rated" sellers don't know what they're selling?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 05, 2012, 08:11:05 PM

There's also a re-stuck (?) Paul Mall going for $4.99:
they're right - it would be hard to find another one like it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 06, 2012, 06:26:10 AM
they're right - it would be hard to find another one like it!

That's true......I've never seen a re-stick at quite that angle before.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 18, 2012, 10:17:27 AM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 18, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


It is too bad PSA makes no allowances for eye appeal. Some of the 1st series PSAs can be very yellow too. The 4th, 5th & 6th can have very ugly spotting/tanning and that also has no effect on the grade. Sometimes it's hard to tell from the auction pictures how bad it is until you see it in person.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 18, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


It's very hard to tell from scans through the holders. It could be shadows and such. It does look a bit yellow but it could be the scanner.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 18, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


Good rule of thumb...contrast against the PSA boarder.   This is the PSA i have my eye on...or is it i just cant see through the smoke?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6th-Series-6-Virgina-Slums-PSA-9-MINT-/380374674443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589018ec0b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 21, 2012, 02:21:44 PM
Good rule of thumb...contrast against the PSA boarder.   This is the PSA i have my eye on...or is it i just cant see through the smoke?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6th-Series-6-Virgina-Slums-PSA-9-MINT-/380374674443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589018ec0b

Wow, the smoke must of came right out of the card itself. A true Viginia Slum. The white boarder looks to be, not so white anymore. Mine must be at least a PSA 14 and it's not perfect by all means. I don't know, maybe the seller tried to take the worst possible picture? That PSA boarder is at least 20 shades whiteter, whiter? whiteier?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 23, 2012, 08:12:39 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!


Tedjeffrey keeps listing more and more of these 11th yellow wrappers. Before the last year or two they were very difficult to find in high grade. Just a guess, but my spidey sense tells me that a certain well-heeled collector has been opening 11th yellow packs (the ones that originated from Greg Schwartz) to submit singles to PSA. So these may not be that rare anymore, but it's certainly a good time to pick them up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-5-Topps-Wacky-Packages-11th-14th-Series-SET-of-ALL-3-WAX-PACK-WRAPPERS-85-/160829970391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25723697d7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 23, 2012, 11:56:04 AM
Tedjeffrey keeps listing more and more of these 11th yellow wrappers. Before the last year or two they were very difficult to find in high grade. Just a guess, but my spidey sense tells me that a certain well-heeled collector has been opening 11th yellow packs (the ones that originated from Greg Schwartz) to submit singles to PSA. So these may not be that rare anymore, but it's certainly a good time to pick them up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-5-Topps-Wacky-Packages-11th-14th-Series-SET-of-ALL-3-WAX-PACK-WRAPPERS-85-/160829970391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25723697d7

How many packs do you think were available for cracking? I think this lot of wrappers wasn't in as nice shape. At least 2 of the 4 had tears.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 23, 2012, 01:05:13 PM
How many packs do you think were available for cracking? I think this lot of wrappers wasn't in as nice shape. At least 2 of the 4 had tears.

I'm not sure. There were 48 11th yellow packs to start with, but I'm not sure how many he ended up with. I do think some others were sold on ebay individually before he bought what was left.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sunsweat on June 24, 2012, 09:24:54 AM
Hi Dave,


I consigned those 11th wrappers through TedJeffrey.  I bought them off a fellow collector who had opened them as a child.  Most are in nice shape, but a few have tears.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 24, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
Hi Dave,


I consigned those 11th wrappers through TedJeffrey.  I bought them off a fellow collector who had opened them as a child.  Most are in nice shape, but a few have tears.

I guess my Spidey senses are off this week! Thanks for the info. While nothing super-major, still a pretty cool find.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2012, 09:51:28 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 25, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


I think the whole description makes me shake my head.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 25, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


"sirsellsum" should change his eBay ID to "sirclueless"! it's too bad that they look like they went through a couple of rinse cycles because there appear to be some original OPC stickers in the bunch ~ would be total torture to find if some of the 2nd series titles were OPC's... sigh....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 25, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


He's really WackEy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 25, 2012, 03:43:49 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262

good god, even $4.44 would be too much for this mildew ridden, silverfish chewed mess of crap.

just look at that lavirus! gah!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/205cmbk.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: chipereno on June 25, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
"Very short life due to Proctor and Gamble making them stop production. A rare collection of history."


I'm calling Proctor and Gamble tomorrow and ask if Topps can continue to print Wackeys!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on June 25, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
"Very short life due to Proctor and Gamble making them stop production. A rare collection of history."


I'm calling Proctor and Gamble tomorrow and ask if Topps can continue to print Wackeys!

I'd suggest talking to Gamble. I hear Proctor's a dick.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 25, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


I love the lines from the description "This is a very slippery slope for retail products so you won't find anything like them ever again. Earliest know parody before SNL"  Someone should inform the people who produced BALLY HOO magazine back in the '40s and '50s, or even National Lampoon, MAD, and CRACKED pre-SNL that they were not creating parodies. And what is it that Topps, Fleer, Zeebs, Wax Eye, and others have been doing since? Gotta love it when historians sell on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on June 25, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
I think the whole description makes me shake my head.

What a terrible history lesson!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 25, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
I love the lines from the description "This is a very slippery slope for retail products so you won't find anything like them ever again. Earliest know parody before SNL"  Someone should inform the people who produced BALLY HOO magazine back in the '40s and '50s, or even National Lampoon, MAD, and CRACKED pre-SNL that they were not creating parodies. And what is it that Topps, Fleer, Zeebs, Wax Eye, and others have been doing since? Gotta love it when historians sell on eBay.

Wait, didn't SNL invent comedy? You mean people joked around and laughed before SNL. Amazing. That Lavirus card looks like the contents of the Lavirus came right out of the bottle, would make a good paring with the Virginia Slums card mentioned recently on this thread.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 25, 2012, 09:17:49 PM
I guess I am too late.  You all stated my thoughts already.  Especially the one about not buying it for $4.44.  LOL!  That was going to be my line.

I love the commentary here.  Keep up the good work everyone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 26, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
I guess I am too late.  You all stated my thoughts already.  Especially the one about not buying it for $4.44.  LOL!  That was going to be my line.

I love the commentary here.  Keep up the good work everyone.

If you read the seller's feedback it's looks like he's screwed at least a couple sellers on some high priced items.  Even if these were all Ludlows in nice shape I would avoid a seller like that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 26, 2012, 08:26:59 AM
...this mildew ridden, silverfish chewed mess of crap.
LOL!! Unlike the seller's, an accurate description for this auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 27, 2012, 01:32:24 AM
If you read the seller's feedback it's looks like he's screwed at least a couple sellers on some high priced items.  Even if these were all Ludlows in nice shape I would avoid a seller like that.

The seller has received another negative feedback since they listed the "Wackey Package by Top"! Warning, warning, Will Robinson... :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 28, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 28, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
"sirsellsum" should change his eBay ID to "sirclueless"!

BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 28, 2012, 12:33:05 PM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f



By 2040 you will be able to make your own indistinquishable copy with the "matter printers" that will be common in that era. I will keep mine in the trunk of my flying car.   Can you tell I just returned from my vacation in 2042? That reminds me, the Tardis was a bit wobbily on the return. Need to get that checked.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 28, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1

Do you think there was ever a point at the US mint where the money designers were stumped at what "catch phrase" to put on the reverse side of the coin and one turned to the others and asked , "A thought for your pennies?"   Just wonderin'
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 28, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1

That is a nice penny.  I have been on the hunt for a shiny one for some time now.  Should I pay the $7 buy it now or try to hold out for the $5?  Hmmm....Tough decision. ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 03, 2012, 07:32:33 AM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f



Oh well, the 6% off sale is over. Back to the original prices! LOL, I'm at least impressed he has a bid of $36 on a 7th gumless pack with two days to go. It's a GAI 8.5, but that's still a good price considering how ultra common these are in high grade.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Moron Salt on August 03, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251121883468?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

good for a laugh :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 03, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251121883468?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

good for a laugh :D

"IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A DIFFERENT BUY IT NOW PRICE"
Maybe one with the decimal point moved three places to the left. Jeeeez!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 03, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
"IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A DIFFERENT BUY IT NOW PRICE"
Maybe one with the decimal point moved three places to the left. Jeeeez!

I think maybe four places to the left.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
I think maybe four places to the left.......

I just sent him this message.........

"Send me a $10.00 gift paypal and I'll take this off your hands for you."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 07, 2012, 05:43:42 AM
this guy has some seriously high expectations for a bunch of common wrappers. BIN $350???

eBay auction: # 290756638769

"MANY of these are rare to VERY RARE and are VERY TOUGH to come by!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 07, 2012, 09:28:52 AM
this guy has some seriously high expectations for a bunch of common wrappers. BIN $350???

eBay auction: # 290756638769

"MANY of these are rare to VERY RARE and are VERY TOUGH to come by!"

Actual value = $15-20 max
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on August 07, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Actual value = $15-20 max

It looks like he has two 1st Series UK wrappers mixed in with a couple of those lots ~ too bad they're included in over priced lots of common wrappers  :-[
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 17, 2012, 10:20:49 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 17, 2012, 10:41:15 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964

Ya got me on this one... I could see someone trying to possibly sell this off to a Lady Gaga fan or collector who is not familiar with what WP prices would be but the seller doesn't even reference it that way in the subject line (like "LADY GAGA PARODY" for example).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on August 17, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964

Okay, first thing I want to make clear is that seller is NOT me! LOL!

I think it's obvious why they are asking such a high price... it's sideways! All of mine are vertical, this is one of the "L@@K-RARE-VHTF" horizontal versions of this sticker. You do know that this means a WHOLE sheet got cut this way! (try putting a set of those together!) :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 23, 2012, 11:10:16 AM
Hmmmm. Place another tick mark in the "clueless" category.

I may ask them how far up their ass this seller went to find that starting price...

eBay auction: #221113668501
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 23, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
Hmmmm. Place another tick mark in the "clueless" category.

I may ask them how far up their ass this seller went to find that starting price...

eBay auction: #221113668501

Seems likely they either think that's the rare one, or don't know, or are hoping some poor schmuck will buy it who doesn't know.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 23, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
Seems likely they either think that's the rare one, or don't know, or are hoping some poor schmuck will buy it who doesn't know.
I'd say all of the above.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 27, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
Okay, first thing I want to make clear is that seller is NOT me! LOL!

I think it's obvious why they are asking such a high price... it's sideways! All of mine are vertical, this is one of the "L@@K-RARE-VHTF" horizontal versions of this sticker. You do know that this means a WHOLE sheet got cut this way! (try putting a set of those together!) :o

Whoa, never noticed that untiil you pointed it out. Checked mine out to see if it was the same and it was upside down with a black boarder! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2012, 03:21:08 AM
"SCARCE 1974 TOPPS WACKY PACKAGE POSTERS UNOPENED 5 PACK LOT FROM UNOPENED CASE"

eBay auction: #370641560744

So if they are from an unopened case, how did they get the boxes and packs out?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 29, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
"SCARCE 1974 TOPPS WACKY PACKAGE POSTERS UNOPENED 5 PACK LOT FROM UNOPENED CASE"

eBay auction: #370641560744

So if they are from an unopened case, how did they get the boxes and packs out?

Two words: Kitty Pryde
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 01, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 01, 2012, 03:18:18 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829
OMG.
And a bunch of those originals are borderless or restuck. Not that it matters at $5K. What a maroon.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 03, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829

Imagine if they were worth that - how much we all have here!

That's Sooo far off base, I couldn't even call it wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 04, 2012, 11:05:15 AM
Um....hmmmm...is it my monitor or does this look like it has significant foxing in the border? This got a 10?!?! Wonder if the grader's seeing eye dog agreed with him?

eBay auction: #350594647878
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 04, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Um....hmmmm...is it my monitor or does this look like it has significant foxing in the border? This got a 10?!?! Wonder if the grader's seeing eye dog agreed with him?

eBay auction: #350594647878

Thats what it appears like... although, the picture is poor enough quality, its hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 11:06:32 AM
Just....LOL.

eBay auction: #271055832762
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on September 10, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Just....LOL.

eBay auction: #271055832762

Wow! What a steal!

Only interesting thing there is how weird the actual sticker outline looks when peeled. Checked and it really was die-cut like that. Bizarre.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Wow! What a steal!
It wasn't really the bid amounts that cracked me up, it was the description. "Off center (OC) but Near Mint condition". That's bizarre.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 10, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
It wasn't really the bid amounts that cracked me up, it was the description. "Off center (OC) but Near Mint condition". That's bizarre.
NM - well, other than the rounded corners and scuffed edges and possibly a crease or two...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
NM - well, other than the rounded corners and scuffed edges and possibly a crease or two...
It could also be fixed: peel it off and restick it centered. Now, it's NM and centered, LOL!! What a friggin' dufus seller.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 14, 2012, 08:10:48 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180968737051?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Yup, one can find an old plastic Shedds bucket for like $10, get a rubber stamper made to say "wacky packages inside" and score a cool $300.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on September 16, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829


Oh man! Someone has actually bid on this one. Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on September 17, 2012, 06:24:18 AM

Oh man! Someone has actually bid on this one. Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b)

Smells like an inside job!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 17, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]
Not true. That was the original starting bid, as ridiculous as it is. The BIN is now gone, which was $1500 above that (at $5000). I think George is Wright (lol)...smells shilly to me, too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on September 17, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
Not true. That was the original starting bid, as ridiculous as it is. The BIN is now gone, which was $1500 above that (at $5000). I think George is Wright (lol)...smells shilly to me, too.

Considering that the "bidder" has no feedback rating, I would say this smells worse than fishy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 17, 2012, 01:03:32 PM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 17, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336

From the description... "12 in all they are scotch taped togeter from back ok so you no but you might be able to get it off a few duck taped to ok///thanks"

This appears to be either encoded invasion orders or a recipe for General Tso's chicken (with duck substitute).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 17, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
From the description... "12 in all they are scotch taped togeter from back ok so you no but you might be able to get it off a few duck taped to ok///thanks"

This appears to be either encoded invasion orders or a recipe for General Tso's chicken (with duck substitute).

Ha!

Or maybe it's the summary of a porn movie loosely based on the horror movie Centipede?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 18, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336

That is definitely lizard boy style text.  Could very well be him.  Just dissapointed there are no lizard pics this time.  Maybe the lizard is in the great desert in the sky!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 18, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 18, 2012, 08:05:19 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317

I've tried to figure out his pricing strategy but it seems to be all over the map. If it doesn't sell he'll probably drop it a bit and that doesn't sell he will go the bidding route. The thing is if they don't sell within 2 days of a BIN you have over priced it because there are about 3-4 sketch collectors that will suck them up pretty fast if the price is right. Just look at completed auctions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2012, 09:09:34 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317
Since when were logic and gary every directly linked?  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 19, 2012, 09:00:13 AM
So, now that a nearly identical graded pack just sold in auction format on ebay for $172, I wonder if ol' sellhelper might consider lowering his asking price on this one, which is 4 times the ebay sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:13:35 AM
What is this garbage?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:18:52 AM
I pulled this very Simko Witch a few weeks ago and I currently own it.  Is this person downloading sketch images from Ebay, printing them and then re-applying them to tan backs?  This is the type of stuff that has to stop.  I can't believe people are buying this stuff.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Zenergizer on September 21, 2012, 07:28:10 AM
huh?...it says "reprints" without any further explanation, so we can only assume
that the seller is copying the sketches and manufacturing his/her own cards?

If that's the case, nothing surprises me how far people will go to make a buck.
Shameful if it's true!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:34:47 AM
Look at the items and prices of the closed Ebay postings that this seller has already sold.   Reprints of Good and Plenty, Bandache, Ludlows, Sketches etc.  Is it shame on the seller or shame on the buyer?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 21, 2012, 08:49:42 AM
Is it shame on the seller or shame on the buyer?
Both. This guy is "King of the Fakes", it seems.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on September 21, 2012, 09:50:59 AM
huh?...it says "reprints" without any further explanation, so we can only assume
that the seller is copying the sketches and manufacturing his/her own cards?

If that's the case, nothing surprises me how far people will go to make a buck.
Shameful if it's true!


This specific trend is the reason that I have scans of all of the sketch cards that I recently drew. Not so much for the pencil sketches, but more for the b&w ink renderings. This way, if any of my cards make it to eBay, and are misrepresented, faked, colored in, etc., I can blow the whistle on the seller. This may sound like overkill, but it is extremely frustrating to see it becoming a common practice for some sellers to be making good money on swill and/or altered sketch cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jaylynch on September 21, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
These aren't even GOOD fakes, though.  Here's an interesting art forgery tale on Bhob Stewart's blog.  http://potrzebie.blogspot.com/2010/07/norman-rockwell-mystery-solved.html
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 21, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
What is this garbage?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd

The irony is Matt Stock bought them....HaHa
This really is sad though. You really need to read the full description. Funny that Matt got what was coming to him on this lot.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 21, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
People are leaving positive feedback on this guys fake stuff. I sent messages to the guys that paid almost $300 for the Band-Ache and the one that paid $200 for the Good and Empty. I'm curious if they knew it was a fake and if they could tell when they got it. I'll post their reply if they do reply.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 21, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
The irony is Matt Stock bought them....HaHa
This really is sad though. You really need to read the full description. Funny that Matt got what was coming to him on this lot.

Matt "Ted Turner" Stock... Maybe he plans to colorized them and flip them back on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on September 21, 2012, 07:26:30 PM
People are leaving positive feedback on this guys fake stuff. I sent messages to the guys that paid almost $300 for the Band-Ache and the one that paid $200 for the Good and Empty. I'm curious if they knew it was a fake and if they could tell when they got it. I'll post their reply if they do reply.
All that going to happen is these people will put them back on Ebay in the future and it will sour all of the new people coming into the hobby.  I am so glad I collect for my enjoyment not for profit.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 22, 2012, 01:00:33 AM
Another one where free shipping makes all the difference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-TOPPS-EXCLUSIVE-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTERS-SERIES-1-SEALED-BOX-18-PKS-WOW-/221123793911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337c0153f7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 22, 2012, 05:23:47 AM
All that going to happen is these people will put them back on Ebay in the future and it will sour all of the new people coming into the hobby.  I am so glad I collect for my enjoyment not for profit.

Most people collect for enjoyment, even those pursuing high dollar items. Let's be honest, how many people are buying up ludlows or high grade die cuts planning to flip them? This MO might make some sense for sketches (short term), but with vintage items I don't think it happens much.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 22, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
I got replies back from the 2 I sent message to.

Dear wackypackagesforum,

..... thankfully, I didn't pay anything. After the auction ended, in which I was high bidder, I looked at the sellers other items, and past items, and saw that they were Holy Grails of Wacky Packs. This roused my suspicions, so I re-re-read the auction, noticed the "perfect reproduction" and and then asked if they were repros. My first response from the seller was that he would hold me to my contract. I told him that I was an eBay memeber since 1999, so knew the rules, and welcomed this, as I would then question whether or not he violated Topps copyrights. He then voided the auction. I heard from another buyer who purchased a Good and Empty - same thing. Since the seller cancelled the auction, I left positive feedback, only becuase he did communicate and did close the auction. Looks like he still have 100% positive feedback. BUt yes - his description, while strictly correct was intentionally confusing.

I went to your forum - pretty interesting - I may join.

Cheers


______________________________________________________________________

Thanks for letting me know but I knew already. I knew when I saw I won the auction and I saw the price. I have a bad habit of throwing auctions into esnipe with a low bid just to track what they went for. I read the description but missed the repro part.....it was at the end of a long description. Anyway, I complained to the guys and asked to cancel the transaction and he did.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on September 22, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
Can one or more of the artists here with solid Topps' contacts let them know about this guy? I keep letting eBay know via the reporting mechanism but somehow I don't think it is working...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 22, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
Can one or more of the artists here with solid Topps' contacts let them know about this guy? I keep letting eBay know via the reporting mechanism but somehow I don't think it is working...
The seller is clearly a con artist as he runs one day auctions knowing ebay won't react fast enough to end them.  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured.  Not much we can do about it as I am sure Topps won't be bothered with this as Topps has been very selective about when they want to protect their copyright.  The most that can be done is to continue to contact winning bidders and under bidders as I am sure this con artist is contacting under bidders after his winners back out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BRUTE_88 on September 22, 2012, 04:20:39 PM
The seller is clearly a con artist as he runs one day auctions knowing ebay won't react fast enough to end them.  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured.  Not much we can do about it as I am sure Topps won't be bothered with this as Topps has been very selective about when they want to protect their copyright.  The most that can be done is to continue to contact winning bidders and under bidders as I am sure this con artist is contacting under bidders after his winners back out.

How is it even possible to contact the winning bidders to warn them?  I thought Ebay made this option impossible years ago...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 22, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
How is it even possible to contact the winning bidders to warn them?  I thought Ebay made this option impossible years ago...
Brad seems to be doing it, I am not really sure, I gave up on this practice years ago as I found policing this hobby to be unrewarding.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 22, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
You can't send messages to people bidding because its tough to tell, other than the usual suspects. I looked at his feedback and messaged those people.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 24, 2012, 01:29:24 PM
  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured. 

That is disturbing. What a jerk (to be nice).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 24, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
. . . I found policing this hobby to be unrewarding.

Also, I imagine sometimes hazardous conditions, low pay, and no 401K match
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 24, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Also, I imagine sometimes hazardous conditions, low pay, and no 401K match

LOL Plus no Christmas Vacation, crazy hours. At least you get Cooler talk right here on the forum!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 25, 2012, 09:53:01 AM
Is this the same "fake king" creating these repro 5 cent Ad wrappers? Now, he's beginning to piss me off!!

eBay auction: #120990851488
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 25, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
Is this the same "fake king" creating these repro 5 cent Ad wrappers? Now, he's beginning to piss me off!!

eBay auction: #120990851488

It is. These are all fakes. What a scumbag!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 25, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
It is. These are all fakes. What a scumbag!

Are those perfs actually cut?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 25, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
Are those perfs actually cut?
yep, sure looks like it.  although compared to the real deal, those cuts are UGLY.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: blunderbrent on September 25, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
I had several email exchanges with this seller today to determine the authenticity of the Wacky Ad wrappers. It took 2 back and forths before he fessed they were repros.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 25, 2012, 07:15:35 PM
Has this guy always been putting this blurb at the bottom of his descriptions?

Please make sure you understand this auction and if you don't all you have to do is ask.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 26, 2012, 06:49:55 AM

Has anyone emailed him expressing the negative to the hobby affects of what he is doing?  I know he probably only cares about profit but sometimes a little pressure from multiple sources can be affective.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 26, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-1977-Original-Wacky-Packages-16th-Series-Floral-Cigarettes-white-back-/271069157518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1cfb188e


Nuff Said!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 26, 2012, 01:41:50 PM
Has this guy always been putting this blurb at the bottom of his descriptions?

Please make sure you understand this auction and if you don't all you have to do is ask.
Me thinkest that is fairly new due to all the questions he's getting...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 26, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
Has anyone emailed him expressing the negative to the hobby affects of what he is doing?  I know he probably only cares about profit but sometimes a little pressure from multiple sources can be affective.
I am tempted to do this, but afraid it'll just be a waste of my time.
Title: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: gumby8691 on September 28, 2012, 08:25:43 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist. I always love when they start with something like "I am the original owner, blah, blah,..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-150-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-1974-SERIES-3-4-5-6-9-GREAT-DEAL-/200825796641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2267821
Title: Re: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: Playbug on September 28, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist. I always love when they start with something like "I am the original owner, blah, blah,..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-150-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-1974-SERIES-3-4-5-6-9-GREAT-DEAL-/200825796641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2267821

This post would go good in the Re: Are these people nuts thread.
Title: Re: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: BumChex on September 29, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
This post would go good in the Re: Are these people nuts thread.
I agree and added it to the nuts thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 03, 2012, 09:42:21 AM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 03, 2012, 12:01:20 PM

This guy cracks me up.


That's one wild seller – their pricing strategy is like a bucking bronco at the rodeo

They have a set of Brady Bunch cards with the price reduced from $29,999 to $14,700

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-TOPPS-BRADY-BUNCH-GUM-CARD-SET-PSA-7-58-HIP-POP-CULTURE-OFFER-OK-/330384982781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec7ac2fd

What does this part of the auction description mean, below? If I buy it, only one other person on Earth has a better graded set?

"THIS IS THE #2 HIGHEST 100% COMPLETE SET ON PLANET LISTED UNDER HERE'S THE STORY ON THE ALL TIME PSA SET REG."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 03, 2012, 12:05:08 PM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897

But if you buy it at the BIN price you save $2450! Why not list it at $20,000 one week and then drop the price down to $5,000 the next? Then they can say to the potential buyer, "You're "saving" $15,000!"  What a joke. If the quoted price is in no way - or only very loosely - connected to the actual 'value' (which is very difficult to establish in the first place) of the commodity on offer then where is the savings?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 03, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
But if you buy it at the BIN price you save $2450! Why not list it at $20,000 one week and then drop the price down to $5,000 the next? Then they can say to the potential buyer, "You're "saving" $15,000!"  What a joke. If the quoted price is in no way - or only very loosely - connected to the actual 'value' (which is very difficult to establish in the first place) of the commodity on offer then where is the savings?

If everyone sold like this, just think of all the money you could save by saving your savings! WOW !

You could be the 2nd person on earth to have one of the best sets of these. I guess that excludes other galaxy's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 03, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897

The value of everything is down.  About 5 years ago I sold a full 8th Blue box for about $2500.  That said, I am tempted to offer him $1500 for it.  I think that would be a fairly decent value price for that full box. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on October 05, 2012, 08:48:15 AM
Here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lost-Wacky-Packages-1981-United-Kingdom-Test-Set-Ads-Packs-Complete-/120995354023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2be295a7

I think that he has sold this one about 1/2 dozen times over the passed few months. No where in the description does it states that these are reproductions.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 05, 2012, 09:10:12 AM
Here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lost-Wacky-Packages-1981-United-Kingdom-Test-Set-Ads-Packs-Complete-/120995354023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2be295a7

I think that he has sold this one about 1/2 dozen times over the passed few months. No where in the description does it states that these are reproductions.



He uses the term "rendered" in the description (quoted below) but "rendered"  is a very broad and general term and does not specifically imply the cards are not original test items  like would be conveyed by "reproduction" or "reanactment" or "fake" or "forgery" or "slimeball". I mean, all cards are rendered in one way or another. At least this description  would trigger a bit of a red-flag for me but could still see how someone unfamiliar with the history of this particular item could be misled.


" This auction is for a RENDERED Set of 1981 Lost Wackys that were going to be made and released in the UK back in 1981,but for some reason it never happened and we collectors were left with a hole in our collection. The set is a rendering of what could have been. The cards in the picture are the exact cards you will receive. Item ships the day payment is made. Cards will be put into toploaders and mailed securely."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 07, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
The description on this beauty is priceless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-EARLY-1970S-VINTAGE-CHOKE-WAGON-TRADING-CARD-SERIES-4-MINT-/320997166426?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abcec0d5a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 07, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
The description on this beauty is priceless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-EARLY-1970S-VINTAGE-CHOKE-WAGON-TRADING-CARD-SERIES-4-MINT-/320997166426?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abcec0d5a

No mention of the fact it's so far to the left it advocates socialized health care.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 07, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
No mention of the fact it's so far to the left it advocates socialized health care.

No bent corners? I guess smashed are not worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on October 09, 2012, 06:50:30 AM
Uninformed or hopeful - a rare punched out 1979 wacky: eBay auction: #120997254125 ?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 09, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
Uninformed or hopeful - a rare punched out 1979 wacky: eBay auction: #120997254125 ?
Definitely uninformed (aka clueless).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 11, 2012, 06:26:08 AM
The earth will be recovering from the next ice age, and this $10 pack will still be on ebay for $99.99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-IN-PLASTIC-ON-A-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230862795774?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c07eb3fe
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 11, 2012, 12:58:33 PM
The earth will be recovering from the next ice age, and this $10 pack will still be on ebay for $99.99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-IN-PLASTIC-ON-A-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230862795774?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c07eb3fe

Of course it will. its SEALED IN PLASTIC. With a little luck it will transend time. I bet the gum is still good.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 13, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on October 13, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238
I agree a little high, however what would be a fair price?  It is not my Auction but I am interested what everyone thinks.  I don't know the value of higher series whites or tri folds I do know that ludlows are selling for good money
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on October 13, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238

The .69 cents killed it for me   :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ludlow the red camel on October 13, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
The .69 cents killed for me   :sad:
prolly thought when you see the 69 your mind would be on something else and forget you're getting raped for over 10,000.  wonder what it would have listed for if heaven forbid series 16 was included??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on October 13, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
I agree a little high, however what would be a fair price?  It is not my Auction but I am interested what everyone thinks.  I don't know the value of higher series whites or tri folds I do know that ludlows are selling for good money

Based on condition, I'd estimate anywhere from $4000 to $7000. Based on the description of condition I would say closer to $7k, but if the cards are all in condition of the samples represented, I'd say closer to the $4k. Most of the value is in the luds, 1st tan set, 3rd & 13th WB singles, & 14th trifold set. This price is full retail. Anyone buying the entire lot would expect at least a 20% to 30% discount from that IMO. To get closer to the full retail, you'd have to sell it off at least by sets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 19, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Proof-Acetate-Set-228-/140870470786?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc88cc82

Am I missing something? Not sure what is more offensive the price or the description. Acetate? I see a pic of a common card.

I tried to send the seller a message but I am Canadian and the items they are seeling are not available here. Too bad for me if I change my mind and want to bid. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this guy (or gal). "I have looked these up on several sites and at trade shows, card and comic shops. THESE ARE LEGITIMATE PRICES." What a load of cr**.

"These Wacky Packages survived the 1970's like a champion! No bent corners, no fading no writing no stickers removed. All in perfect condition. These are great nostalgia, I was going to make a canvas out of them until I looked them up. I will be making the canvas if they do not sell. I have looked these up on several sites and at trade shows, card and comic shops. THESE ARE LEGITIMATE PRICES. I am willing to work a deal if you would like multiple cards. I have doubles and triples of a lot of these. Please let me know if you have a need for a particular card, I have so many I will only be listing the better valued ones for now and the lesser value ones in a bulk lot later. Thank you for looking and happy bidding, good luck!!!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 19, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
Am I missing something?
nope. you spotted a legitimate whack-job! $325 for a VG Old Spit? LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 19, 2012, 07:27:39 PM
Am I missing something?
Nope. This dude is certainly a major a-hole, when it comes to Wackies, anyway. The picture doesn't match the description/title at all and neither matches the pricing. What a super shmuck!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: moron_chicken on October 20, 2012, 07:00:09 AM
Is anyone familiar with this persons auctions?

http://www.ebay.com/csc/califgirlz/m.html?item=360496204871&ViewItem=&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

They are selling cards advertised as mint, and making a mint doing it.  It is hard to tell from the pictures if these cards are really mint.  I wonder how many find a dissatisfied customer and returned?  If they are honestly mint cards this is a good selling approach.  I wonder how many mint cards I have sold over the years for nothing. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sunsweat on October 20, 2012, 08:01:47 AM
Is anyone familiar with this persons auctions?

http://www.ebay.com/csc/califgirlz/m.html?item=360496204871&ViewItem=&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

They are selling cards advertised as mint, and making a mint doing it.  It is hard to tell from the pictures if these cards are really mint.  I wonder how many find a dissatisfied customer and returned?  If they are honestly mint cards this is a good selling approach.  I wonder how many mint cards I have sold over the years for nothing. 

These auctions look like some shilling is going on.  Click on the bidders in bidding history.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 20, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
I agree (about the shilling). It's the same bidders. Some people will do anything (and by that I mean debase themselves to any level) in order to make money. Best to keep folks like that at a distance. This applies to ebay auctions as well as life in general. :-)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 20, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
I completely disagree that this is shilling.
These cards are selling at only 10-20-25 cents a pop. No one is driving the prices up, no one is bidding on outrageously priced commons. One person has been buying a lot of them, but then again, buying a bunch combines the shipping and saves significant $.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 20, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
But $56 for a Screech tan back? These are all tan back series 10 for $25 - $56? That's more like the 16th series...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 20, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
But $56 for a Screech tan back? These are all tan back series 10 for $25 - $56? That's more like the 16th series...
ok. you got me on that one. these recent auctions have been dirt cheap, but most of those earlier ones look really suspicious.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 20, 2012, 11:45:24 AM
Does anyone know who these people are that are spending $40 to $60 on these Series 13 Tan Backs?  I would like to offer my collection to them for bid, one card at a time.  My cards are mint of course.  :]

Wow!  Some of these postings are amazing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 20, 2012, 02:27:43 PM
Seriously guys - we all know what is going on here. I reported the auctions - several of them in fact - to ebay. A lot good it will do. I also wrote the seller and accused them of doing what we all know they are doing. No one - and I mean no one - would pay $30-40 for an ungraded 13th series card. Are you kidding me? A PSA-7/8 graded one perhaps but these aren't them.

Take a look at the bidders. It's the same three bidders and in the same exact order (at least on the 13th series ones I came across). And who pays $160 for a 2nd series black ludlow? I have several but I can't imagine getting half that and they are nm.

And one more thing: If these bids are legit - as some of you might want to argue - then why aren't the bidders snatching up any other auctions? Why are they not buying up other lots of cards of similar quality? If they are willing to shell out $50 for a common tan back then why not $300 or more for a set of similar quality?

Or, better yet: If any one of you wants to sell a few tan-back commons, now is your chance. (!) There are at least two 'buyers' bidding on these recent auctions and chances are the one who loses will be wanting to fill the void in their collection or whatever and you could make some money. Of course, some may want to argue that b/c in some cases the bidding war was between two 'buyers' you would not make nearly as much $ given that the one who won the auction would not in all likelihood (or so the arument goes) be looking to bid on these new auctions thereby elimiating the possibility of another bidding war.

But then, why aren't others in on the bidding war? Do these 'buyers' know something about the market for WPs that the hundreds of others in teh hobby do not?

The truth is, there is no bidding war going on here. The market has not changed for WPs in teh last few weeks. It's just shady selling practices, that's all.  

Sorry for rant but this really pisses me off.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on October 20, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
I’ve been watching this seller for a while as well. I’m surprised that the prices are so high with the picture quality of the actual cards being so low. The seller mentions that the stickers were stored in a photo album for years so I checked her feedback to see if there were any complaints about glue on the backs but there were none. Actually one of our forum members has left positive feedback.
 As for shills, one of the high rolling bidders v***s (151) has been all over wacky auctions in the last few months so I don’t believe he is a shill.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 20, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
Gumby, I enjoyed the rant.  Thanks! :great:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 24, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
Check out this auction.  $100 and ONLY $8.35 for shipping a single sticker.  PLUS, he is willing to workl out a deal on shipping of you buy more than one sticker.  Who could resist!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Log-Cave-In-/140870865500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc8ed25c#ht_330wt_913
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on October 24, 2012, 07:41:34 AM
Check out this auction.  $100 and ONLY $8.35 for shipping a single sticker.  PLUS, he is willing to workl out a deal on shipping of you buy more than one sticker.  Who could resist!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Log-Cave-In-/140870865500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc8ed25c#ht_330wt_913


I suggest he make the canvas.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 24, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
I suggest he make the canvas.......
I have another suggestion for where he can paste them...and it ain't just anyplace.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 26, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Hey everyone 'priced reduced for quick sale'  :great:
I told Ern we needed to move this to the Are These People Nuts thread..HaHa.
eBay auction: #121005367411
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrDeal on October 26, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
Nice $15.00 sketch he's got there.

DrDeal
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 12:02:42 AM
Nice $15.00 sketch he's got there.

DrDeal

HaHa. See Ern always has to protect himself. I think it's funny that he thinks he's always right even though we know his tactics are horrible. It's just funny. He doesn't get the market. He obviously has blinders on. I can laugh at myself if I screw up but Ern can't do that. Not every sketch is a masterpiece, hello Clint and Cardgary. I just hate clueless sellers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 06:33:26 AM
HaHa. See Ern always has to protect himself. I think it's funny that he thinks he's always right even though we know his tactics are horrible. It's just funny. He doesn't get the market. He obviously has blinders on. I can laugh at myself if I screw up but Ern can't do that. Not every sketch is a masterpiece, hello Clint and Cardgary. I just hate clueless sellers.
When did I say this was a master piece?  Where did I screw up?  I simply put this on ebay with a high BIN so as NOT to sell it on ebay?  Are you really this dense or is this an act?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
When did I say this was a master piece?  Where did I screw up?  I simply put this on ebay with a high BIN so as NOT to sell it on ebay?  Are you really this dense or is this an act?

Ern, I'm just giving you shit. You take things way too serious and aways have to be right. I will lay off.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 27, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
Hey, mom and dad! Us kids get scared when you fight.   :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
Ern, I'm just giving you shit. You take things way too serious and aways have to be right. I will lay off.
I didn't have an opinion here so there was no right and wrong in play but I didn enjoy your trying to play this off in some mysterious way.  I merely listed an ebay auction, clearly stated I had no expectations for it to sell as my intent was to use ebay for advertising purposes and you some how turned it into a witch hunt in which I was trying to rip off collectors.  Is there some being "Right" mixed in there somewhere?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Hey, mom and dad! Us kids get scared when you fight.   :'(
LOL!!  Ok, I gotta ask, who is mom?  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
I didn't have an opinion here so there was no right and wrong in play but I didn enjoy your trying to play this off in some mysterious way.  I merely listed an ebay auction, clearly stated I had no expectations for it to sell as my intent was to use ebay for advertising purposes and you some how turned it into a witch hunt in which I was trying to rip off collectors.  Is there some being "Right" mixed in there somewhere?

No, it just so happens that I was discussing clueless sellers with a fellow forum member and then I saw your auction when you should know the hobby. I thought it was funny because the Walton sketches seem to be the new 'Z' and asking $200 for a sketch, regardless if you are looking for offers, is really high. Plus telling people in the sketch thread that you didn't expect that much was great because who would make you a lowball offer on what a seller wants $200 for. If you have a BIN of $200 would you really take - $20 offer? No, even though its worth maybe $25 tops. Now if you had one of Cameras sketches and asking $200 for it is a different story. I wouldn't have said anything. You say all I care about is the sketches but I do know the market on sketches and some stuff still surprises me. I know a lot of the sketch collectors and know what price and type of sketch they consider worth the cash and Walton sketches isn't one of them. It's one you start bidding on at $20 and hope it sells.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 10:58:20 PM
No, it just so happens that I was discussing clueless sellers with a fellow forum member and then I saw your auction when you should know the hobby. I thought it was funny because the Walton sketches seem to be the new 'Z' and asking $200 for a sketch, regardless if you are looking for offers, is really high. Plus telling people in the sketch thread that you didn't expect that much was great because who would make you a lowball offer on what a seller wants $200 for. If you have a BIN of $200 would you really take - $20 offer? No, even though its worth maybe $25 tops. Now if you had one of Cameras sketches and asking $200 for it is a different story. I wouldn't have said anything. You say all I care about is the sketches but I do know the market on sketches and some stuff still surprises me. I know a lot of the sketch collectors and know what price and type of sketch they consider worth the cash and Walton sketches isn't one of them. It's one you start bidding on at $20 and hope it sells.
I again feel I have the right to call you an idiot.  For the last time, I had zero intention of selling on ebay so why would I start at $20 and hope it sells?  I was purely using ebay as a tool to advertise it being available.  I said in no way was my BIN indictive of any perception of value for the card(AND CONTENTS). I specifically stated this in my original post here yet I am sure you have no recollection of that as you consistantly ignore what people actually post and you just post away whatever whimsicle thought comes to your mind much like a child.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
For the last time, I had zero intention of selling on ebay so why would I start at $20 and hope it sells?  I was purely using ebay as a tool to advertise it being available. 

Thanks, that's all I needed to read....LOL so you just post on eBay to promote your brand and not sell? HaHa. I'll tell you what. I put auctions on eBay to actually sell them. The market will tell you what it's worth. The final price may not be what I want but I sold it. We obviously differ on selling tactics.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2012, 07:05:14 AM
Thanks, that's all I needed to read....LOL so you just post on eBay to promote your brand and not sell? HaHa. I'll tell you what. I put auctions on eBay to actually sell them. The market will tell you what it's worth. The final price may not be what I want but I sold it. We obviously differ on selling tactics.
"all I needed to read" is what I have said in nearly every single post to you....

"Obviously the auction is rigged so I can get offers and screw ebay out of its fees before someone goes off half cocked on me for my BIN price...."

This is the text from my original post here that resulted in your attacking me for days about the BIN price....see why I feel you have a child's ability to comprehend other's posts or perhaps you still don't bother to read anything and have a cavallier attitude in regards to whether your responses accurately depict the posts you are responding too.....sorry dude, nobody is sitting back saying, "isn't that cute, yet again brad didn't read the content of a post he has decided to respond to"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM
Guys... can you please move your stuff into a separate thread? Really getting tedious for the rest of us...  :^)


So here's a "color" sketch -- apparently because Mark signed in blue ink:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121006911407&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2012, 12:36:57 PM
Guys... can you please move your stuff into a separate thread? Really getting tedious for the rest of us...  :^)


So here's a "color" sketch -- apparently because Mark signed in blue ink:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121006911407&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I agree with you 100%.  Brad dragged it into this thread and others.  I only mentioned my auction in the sketch spoiler thread since I was providing a scan of a sketch.  I hope our moderator can settle down and do his job and not drag this into more threads.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 29, 2012, 12:17:45 PM
Heh:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876194938&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Classic! I tried to send seller a message asking how he/she knows it's a hostess double wacky, but can't get through (they do not sell to folks North of your border). Would love to hear their logic/reasoning...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5

Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f

Are there no rules against this on ebay?



Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 29, 2012, 01:03:20 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5
Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f
Are there no rules against this on ebay?


I guess, realistically, how could ebay police multiple auctions selling the same item? They simply would have no way of knowing. I have run into the flip of this issue twice in recent months (one Wacky item and one not), I won an auction, only to be told a day or two later by the seller that they did not have the item. How is this not a HUGE blot against the seller? Perhaps I am being an ass, but in both cases I left negative feedback even though my cost was refunded. I suppose I am a conspirasist and suspect foul play when this happens.  

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
Nahh, I would be pissed too.
And you're right about e-bay and the policing of infractions like the one I flagged. Then again, they should be doing something with the money they generate from all those fees.   >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 29, 2012, 02:20:05 PM
Classic! I tried to send seller a message asking how he/she knows it's a hostess double wacky, but can't get through (they do not sell to folks North of your border). Would love to hear their logic/reasoning...
I asked. Can't wait for the answer, if I get one......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on October 29, 2012, 10:34:18 PM
I asked. Can't wait for the answer, if I get one......

Haha,,now revised,,,must have gotten the messge
too bad he never revised the asking price..yet...$45  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 30, 2012, 05:44:47 AM
Haha,,now revised,,,must have gotten the messge
too bad he never revised the asking price..yet...$45  :^)

So, maybe these lousy looking commons ARE worth $45...  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 30, 2012, 07:23:18 AM
Am I imagining this? Title says "Ludlow"; description says "white back"; photo implies "tan back":

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876463660&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123




Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 30, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
Am I imagining this? Title says "Ludlow"; description says "white back"; photo implies "tan back":

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876463660&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


How can you go wrong? When its delivered, its bound to be one of these three.   :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 30, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
I was thinking of a clever response, however, nobody can top Sco(o)t's comment.  It still has me laughing.  Good one!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 31, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5

Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f

Are there no rules against this on ebay?

The thing I don't get is the scans of the backs don't look like tri-folds.  I don't see the typical tri-fold lines on them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 31, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Whoever paid this much for this sketch is NUTTS!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-LIMITED-POST-CARD-SKETCH-CARD-BROWER-/221146156004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d568be4&nma=true&si=bzSkd%2BstculufvhGzrD5Y053pf8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 31, 2012, 06:07:18 PM
Whoever paid this much for this sketch is NUTTS!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-LIMITED-POST-CARD-SKETCH-CARD-BROWER-/221146156004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d568be4&nma=true&si=bzSkd%2BstculufvhGzrD5Y053pf8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I have on similar but not as good as this one. I didn't even bother listing it because I didn't think I would get much for it. I probably wouldn't have because you can at least tell what this one is. Mine took me awhile to figure it out. I would rather keep some sketches than to sell cheap on eBay. So far its been a bit tough to see which artist and sketches are going for a higher value. So far the Simkos haven't been doing as well as I would have thought. I've heard from 2 sketch collectors that they don't care for the comic style sketches. I think they're really good. Most of the artists have stepped up their game for this series and its been one of the best PC sketch runs so far.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 31, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
I'm also surprised the Gambino moons have sold so high. Both have sold for $140+. It's not even a monster, its a moon.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 31, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
I'm also surprised the Gambino moons have sold so high. Both have sold for $140+. It's not even a monster, its a moon.
lol. Exactly. It's the frickin' moon! Respect.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on November 01, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
I have another suggestion for where he can paste them...and it ain't just anyplace.

LOL!
Love your new avitar sketch, it's more personable now (if that's a word)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on November 01, 2012, 05:14:45 PM
lol. Exactly. It's the frickin' moon! Respect.

Was it a full moon at least?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 01, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/200841726208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec3198900

Is this a restick of Knuckles into a Oh Hairy frame?  If so, why does the knuckles fit so well?  I can't come up with any other black borders that explain this.  Anyone?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 01, 2012, 07:47:35 PM
This thing just won't die.  Dave found this one back in March
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=84.msg43861#msg43861

Really doesn't fit that well, knuckles is larger than o'hairy, but still smaller than the outer border, and overlaps the die cut area giving it something to stick to.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 01, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
This thing just won't die.  Dave found this one back in March
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=84.msg43861#msg43861

Really doesn't fit that well, knuckles is larger than o'hairy, but still smaller than the outer border, and overlaps the die cut area giving it something to stick to.
Sorry, my bad. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 02, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
Sorry, my bad. 
it still makes for a great laugh. "never been pulled off its original backing" 
and the title keyword of "====LOOK====", the first sign of total crap
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 02, 2012, 06:57:34 AM
it still makes for a great laugh. "never been pulled off its original backing" 
and the title keyword of "====LOOK====", the first sign of total crap
Yeah, this seller seems to enjoy lying just to see the reaction he will get from people.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on November 03, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
I could not help myself.  I did a search to see if he still is selling that Duxie that looked like rats had eaten one of the corners.  Of course it is still available for a mere $7.99.

This is the guy that stated he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay.  He came across as a bit of a kook when I asked about that Duxie sticker.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 03, 2012, 11:13:22 PM
I could not help myself.  I did a search to see if he still is selling that Duxie that looked like rats had eaten one of the corners.  Of course it is still available for a mere $7.99.

This is the guy that stated he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay.  He came across as a bit of a kook when I asked about that Duxie sticker.



I know this guy on ebay has over a million items. and 2.5 million feedbacks. I know this guy is not the most, but lets see ol' Floydy boy get close.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Deep-Descent-McMurray-Kevin-F-9780743400633-/380384603008?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item5890b06b80
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 04, 2012, 05:30:35 AM
Sometimes jokes just write themselves...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-Rare-White-Backs-Extremely-Rare-Lot-of-15-/170936611722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc9db38a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on November 04, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
Sometimes jokes just write themselves...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-Rare-White-Backs-Extremely-Rare-Lot-of-15-/170936611722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc9db38a

What's he do if he sells these 15 cards before he sells them again as part of an even better deal, eBay auction: #170924126238  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 04, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
What's he do if he sells these 15 cards before he sells them again as part of an even better deal, eBay auction: #170924126238  :-\

Good question. That's why I'm turning my sights on another auction. According to the seller, this is a 'frameable' piece. Once I figure out where to hang it on my wall, I will start bidding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-WACKY-PACK-CARDS-GROUP-BAD-thats-not-funny-/121013276459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2cf40f2b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 04, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
Good question. That's why I'm turning my sights on another auction. According to the seller, this is a 'frameable' piece. Once I figure out where to hang it on my wall, I will start bidding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-WACKY-PACK-CARDS-GROUP-BAD-thats-not-funny-/121013276459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2cf40f2b

This one is terrific in its horribleness! Not sure if this counts as a custom sketch piece or not. And the puzzle piece that has been cut so it doesn't fit quite right is the cherry topping on the cheesecake (which is what we had for my birthday dinner tonight). Yum. (both cheescake and this auction). I am considering bidding on the beauty myself. It just needs the obligatory =====LOOK===== in the description. Its definetly a one-of-kind item... thank goodness.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 04, 2012, 04:27:01 PM
This one is terrific in its horribleness! Not sure if this counts as a custom sketch piece or not. And the puzzle piece that has been cut so it doesn't fit quite right is the cherry topping on the cheesecake (which is what we had for my birthday dinner tonight). Yum. (both cheescake and this auction). I am considering bidding on the beauty myself. It just needs the obligatory =====LOOK===== in the description. Its definetly a one-of-kind item... thank goodness.

I agree. If were the seller I would feel mighty embarassed if someone knew I was trying to sell something as utterly worthless as 9, no make that 8, 8 puzzle pieces + one hand sketched by an 8 year old and the whole thing crudely stuck to the back of a piece of cardboard.

When the day comes that someone is willing to pay $15 for something 'rescued' from under a pile of stinky mattresses in a shed behind a hoarder's house, that'll be the day we realize that we have truly run out of stuff to collect... :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 04, 2012, 04:35:14 PM

 . . . And the puzzle piece that has been cut so it doesn't fit quite right is the cherry topping on the cheesecake (which is what we had for my birthday dinner tonight)
 

I hope you had Cherry Bombs on your cheesecake!

                (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/CherryBombs.gif)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 04, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
I hope you had Cherry Bombs on your cheesecake!

                (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/CherryBombs.gif)

Yes, but it gave me an atomic ache. (ba-doom)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 05, 2012, 12:48:45 PM
Sometimes jokes just write themselves...
Along the same lines...just incredible...clueless...and obviously zero research on what they are selling. Everybody thinks their sh*t is worth a fortune...

eBay auction: #221149983926
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 05, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
Along the same lines...just incredible...clueless...and obviously zero research on what they are selling. Everybody thinks their sh*t is worth a fortune...

eBay auction: #221149983926
This is how I handle morons like this:

"I have 6 sets of these in mint shape without the stains that yours show.  I will sell them to you for 10% of your starting bid price($20) each for a total of $120 for the 6 sets since you feel these are worth $200 each.  You will make a killing!  I will even pay the shipping.  Let me know. "
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 05, 2012, 04:41:49 PM
This is how I handle morons like this:

"I have 6 sets of these in mint shape without the stains that yours show.  I will sell them to you for 10% of your starting bid price($20) each for a total of $120 for the 6 sets since you feel these are worth $200 each.  You will make a killing!  I will even pay the shipping.  Let me know. "

I was going to shell out $1,700.00 (the BIN price) but now that I see these sets are plentiful, I am having second thoughts.  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 05, 2012, 10:20:58 PM
I was going to shell out $1,700.00 (the BIN price) but now that I see these sets are plentiful, I am having second thoughts.  ;)
The guy wrote me back saying he liked his stained set and that he already has an offer of $100.  He is obviously the same guy that lists all those crappy singles just looking for a reaction from wacky pack collectors.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 06, 2012, 04:57:28 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-5th-Series-STIFFORDS-sticker-early-1970s-vintage-70s-/140877231022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cceff3ae

Ignore the fact that the sticker has tape affixed to the top and bottom, is badly stained and is missing part of the black border, as this specimen is "from a smoke-free environment". Classic.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 06, 2012, 09:23:31 AM
this specimen is "from a smoke-free environment".
It needs to be put in a smoky environment...a fireplace.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on November 06, 2012, 10:22:07 AM
It needs to be put in a smoky environment...a fireplace.

lol! It looks like the same wacky rat started chewing on the top of this but gave up.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2012, 06:27:47 AM
selling prints of scans taken from Greg's site for $75? just pathetic and sad. but, hey, shipping is free!

eBay auction: # 290810576218
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 10, 2012, 06:37:12 AM
selling prints of scans taken from Greg's site for $75? just pathetic and sad. but, hey, shipping is free!

eBay auction: # 290810576218

Looks like the item has been removed. Some justice in the Universe does exist.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
Looks like the item has been removed. Some justice in the Universe does exist.
I'm not sure why that earlier link fails, the 3 'rare' poster repros are still there. here's the full link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Toadal-Poster-REPRODUCTION-/290810576218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b5a93d5a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Toadal-Poster-REPRODUCTION-/290810576218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b5a93d5a)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 10, 2012, 07:16:24 AM
I'm not sure why that earlier link fails, the 3 'rare' poster repros are still there. here's the full link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Toadal-Poster-REPRODUCTION-/290810576218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b5a93d5a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Toadal-Poster-REPRODUCTION-/290810576218?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b5a93d5a)

For some reason the previous link (eBay auction number) you posted was resulting in an "auction has been removed" message. Did they post a new auction?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2012, 07:36:41 AM
For some reason the previous link (eBay auction number) you posted was resulting in an "auction has been removed" message. Did they post a new auction?
I see that now as well, but it's the same auction #. I'm wondering if the forum ebay linking button doesn't work anymore due to some 'improved feature' that ebay implemented or a fault in the forum code?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 10, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
I see that now as well, but it's the same auction #. I'm wondering if the forum ebay linking button doesn't work anymore due to some 'improved feature' that ebay implemented or a fault in the forum code?
Patrick, it's because you have a space before the auction number in between the ebay html tags. No spaces allowed now, it appears (they used to be ignored, but like you say, it seems ebay's code is pickier now about the value of the item number).

This should work: eBay auction: #290810576218
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
Patrick, it's because you have a space before the auction number in between the ebay html tags. No spaces allowed now, it appears (they used to be ignored, but like you say, it seems ebay's code is pickier now about the value of the item number).

This should work: eBay auction: #290810576218
thanks. I could swear I only highlighted the auction number. ah, well, if it's not one thing, it's another.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 14, 2012, 03:33:53 PM
thanks. I could swear I only highlighted the auction number. ah, well, if it's not one thing, it's another.

When are you going stop pointing at that darn pumpkin?!              ;)

Maybe you are getting ready to make pie next week . . .
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 14, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
When are you going stop pointing at that darn pumpkin?!              ;)

Maybe you are getting ready to make pie next week . . .
you got it. just keeping watch on it thru to Thanksgiving, when I turn it into an evil looking pie
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 26, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Not really "nuts" per se, as the description is pretty honest, but I wonder what a sanded down Series 16 set is worth? I guess in this case, VG means "Very Glued".

eBay auction: #230885202036
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 26, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
Not really "nuts" per se, as the description is pretty honest, but I wonder what a sanded down Series 16 set is worth? I guess in this case, VG means "Very Glued".

eBay auction: #230885202036

LOL

"The guy I bought this set from spent almost an hour per sticker sanding the glue off the backs."

One of the funniest lines ever!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 26, 2012, 11:21:00 AM
"The guy I bought this set from spent almost an hour per sticker sanding the glue off the backs."

One of the funniest lines ever!
Not only funny, but ridiculous. Obviously, ya don't hand sand down the back of Wackys....ya use a sandblaster.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on November 26, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
This one is HILARIOUS!...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-packages-trading-cards-54-cards-with-an-misprint-card-included-in-this-set-/221159233552?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337e1e1810

I guess I should pull out all my off-center, messed up Wackys I used to collect just for fun & try to get a couple G's too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 26, 2012, 03:41:23 PM
Not only funny, but ridiculous. Obviously, ya don't hand sand down the back of Wackys....ya use a sandblaster.
"the artwork is unaffected" - except that all the colors are bleached by the sun. serious disconnect on that logic.

I seem to remember the original auction, where the set was sold in the frame, with the cards all glued to little foam core pieces and attached to a backing matte.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on November 26, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
This one is HILARIOUS!...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-packages-trading-cards-54-cards-with-an-misprint-card-included-in-this-set-/221159233552?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337e1e1810

I guess I should pull out all my off-center, messed up Wackys I used to collect just for fun & try to get a couple G's too.

LOL!! With that BIN price, each sticker is about $100, including those L@@K!! RARE!! borderless commons!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 26, 2012, 08:09:56 PM

"the artwork is unaffected" - except that all the colors are bleached by the sun. serious disconnect on that logic.


I assumed the seller was saying the original artwork for series 16 was unaffected

I was hoping some aspect of that crazy description was accurate!    ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 27, 2012, 05:30:02 PM
LOL!! With that BIN price, each sticker is about $100, including those L@@K!! RARE!! borderless commons!!!

and who says there aren't still deals to be found on Evilbay???

 :0012394: :0012395:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on December 03, 2012, 09:00:04 PM
This auctionhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/290822706062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290822706062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) has been relisted twice now and the seller hasn’t changed the BIN($2300) even though there doesn’t seem to be any real interest. The first auction got one bid of $299.99(reserve not met), the second auction only got $72.27 and the current auction is at $36(reserve not met) with less than a day left.  I don’t know what the OS wrappers are worth, but the bulk of the lot ranges between the ’79 reissues and ANS not to mention some of them are described in (VG) condition. Is this seller nuts or am I missing something? What would you guys value this lot at?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 04, 2012, 07:48:27 AM
This auctionhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/290822706062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290822706062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) has been relisted twice now and the seller hasn’t changed the BIN($2300) even though there doesn’t seem to be any real interest. The first auction got one bid of $299.99(reserve not met), the second auction only got $72.27 and the current auction is at $36(reserve not met) with less than a day left.  I don’t know what the OS wrappers are worth, but the bulk of the lot ranges between the ’79 reissues and ANS not to mention some of them are described in (VG) condition. Is this seller nuts or am I missing something? What would you guys value this lot at?
I'm not sure exactly what this stuff is worth, but I'm certain it's way less than $2300. The Cloth wrapper and OPC packs were about all I noticed that really have much value (and, of course, the OS wrappers have some, too). This seller may or may not be nuts, but I'd bet they're rather clueless, regardless. Love the last line about drooling, LOL!  Uh, my mouth is open, but I ain't drooling...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 04, 2012, 09:05:29 AM
I'm not sure exactly what this stuff is worth, but I'm certain it's way less than $2300. The Cloth wrapper and OPC packs were about all I noticed that really have much value (and, of course, the OS wrappers have some, too). 

There is no cloth wrapper, it's a 1st UK wrapper, and that's the only thing worth anything here (maybe $40). There's literally no other item worth $10, and that includes the '88 OPC packs. Seller IS in fact nuts ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 04, 2012, 02:49:30 PM
There is no cloth wrapper, it's a 1st UK wrapper, and that's the only thing worth anything here (maybe $40). There's literally no other item worth $10, and that includes the '88 OPC packs. Seller IS in fact nuts ;D
I stand corrected. I actually took what was in the listing as what it was, stupid me. The seller is officially insane.  :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 28, 2012, 07:19:48 AM
Really?
eBay auction: #221170880276
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 28, 2012, 07:24:03 AM
Really?
eBay auction: #221170880276
yep. seems like there's always someone selling the toppsonline stuff at a nice markup even though it's still available at the store.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on January 08, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
Lady Gaga fans: don't miss out!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320961907664&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on January 08, 2013, 10:18:13 AM
Lady Gaga fans: don't miss out!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320961907664&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I noticed someone submitted an offer that was declined.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on January 08, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
I noticed someone submitted an offer that was declined.

I wonder if it was less than $5,000.00? And for such a beautiful sticker! ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on January 08, 2013, 02:44:00 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Card-Stiffords-Messy-Mucilage-/170971725115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ceb57d3b

Classic - This seller really seems clueless since they wrote a paragraph describing this amazing find.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 08, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
ahhh. if only they had free shipping, I might be tempted....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 08, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Card-Stiffords-Messy-Mucilage-/170971725115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ceb57d3b

Classic - This seller really seems clueless since they wrote a paragraph describing this amazing find.
"BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTTTTTLE PEELING AT THE TOP, A SMALL "POP OUT" LINE ON THE BOTTOM (CARD STILL FULLY INTACT WITH THE PAPER). AND A COUPLE SMALLER CREASES ON BOTTOM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE NOT FULLY CREASED JUST LIKE IT WAS PUSHED ON THE CORNER OF A TABLE FOR A SECOND AND LEFT AN INDENT."

LOL. There's just a litttttttle damage here at the top and a couple of creases just like it was rolled into a little frickin' ball and then attempted to be straightened out again!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 08, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
"BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTTTTTLE PEELING AT THE TOP, A SMALL "POP OUT" LINE ON THE BOTTOM (CARD STILL FULLY INTACT WITH THE PAPER). AND A COUPLE SMALLER CREASES ON BOTTOM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE NOT FULLY CREASED JUST LIKE IT WAS PUSHED ON THE CORNER OF A TABLE FOR A SECOND AND LEFT AN INDENT."

LOL. There's just a litttttttle damage here at the top and a couple of creases just like it was rolled into a little frickin' ball and then attempted to be straightened out again!!!

Then he says, "JUST TRYING TO MENTION EVERY POSSIBLE LITTLE THING THAT MAY BE A PROBLEM TO SOMEBODY. BUT THANKS FOR STOPPING BY"

My problem is the $25 starting price and the fact that this guy didn't do the least bit of research into what he had (or should I say doesn't have)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 09, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Anybody on here buy this?  If so, i have a bridge i want to sell to you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Wacky-Packages-Demented-Tomato-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Jim-Hunt-Sketch-Card-/380548620170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589a771f8a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 09, 2013, 08:34:51 PM
Anybody on here buy this?  If so, i have a bridge i want to sell to you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Wacky-Packages-Demented-Tomato-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Jim-Hunt-Sketch-Card-/380548620170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589a771f8a
The image is no longer available when you view the listing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on January 10, 2013, 09:54:47 AM
The image is no longer available when you view the listing.
I see the image fine.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on January 15, 2013, 05:24:46 AM
What am I missing on this one? Not only are the corners touched and the centering marginal, but the card actually SOLD @ $75??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1973-74-Series-5-Wacky-Packages-Head-Boulders-NMint-Condition-/221177601312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f365d20&nma=true&si=RPrLeRAwTeW%2FW8KBed1mJnfbnVc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 15, 2013, 05:45:41 AM
What am I missing on this one? Not only are the corners touched and the centering marginal, but the card actually SOLD @ $75??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1973-74-Series-5-Wacky-Packages-Head-Boulders-NMint-Condition-/221177601312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f365d20&nma=true&si=RPrLeRAwTeW%2FW8KBed1mJnfbnVc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
certainly fishy. it didn't sell last month, like most of their other cards, when it was listed at $1.99
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on January 15, 2013, 12:43:22 PM
What am I missing on this one? Not only are the corners touched and the centering marginal, but the card actually SOLD @ $75??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1973-74-Series-5-Wacky-Packages-Head-Boulders-NMint-Condition-/221177601312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f365d20&nma=true&si=RPrLeRAwTeW%2FW8KBed1mJnfbnVc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

On top of the outrageous sale price take a look at the shipping charges. $25 to ship 1 sticker from Ohio???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 15, 2013, 05:13:30 PM
On top of the outrageous sale price take a look at the shipping charges. $25 to ship 1 sticker from Ohio???
hand delivered
 :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on January 18, 2013, 10:52:22 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1973-Wacky-packs-1st-Series-Rare-Tan-Backs-/150979829222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2327195de6

...just how "Rare" ARE the tan backs here?   :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 19, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1973-Wacky-packs-1st-Series-Rare-Tan-Backs-/150979829222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2327195de6

...just how "Rare" ARE the tan backs here?   :^)


They meant to say "Rare" boarders!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on January 24, 2013, 12:55:00 PM
I'm not sure if I'm missing something with these auctions, or not...

200884234080

These Old School 4 stickers are being listed as 1/1 blank backs. Here's the part that's confusing, with the exception of the Ludlow backs, aren't the Old School 4 stickers already blank backs? If I'm understanding the description correctly, the only difference between these stickers and the ones I bought from Topps online, is a hologram sticker on the back (?)

I can understand the attraction to the ANS blank backs that they sold on eBay because the ANS series all have puzzles, coupons, etc. printed on the back.

Unless I'm experiencing a huge brain fart (which happens with me a lot!), I do not see the difference.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on January 24, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
I'm not sure if I'm missing something with these auctions, or not...

200884234080

These Old School 4 stickers are being listed as 1/1 blank backs. Here's the part that's confusing, with the exception of the Ludlow backs, aren't the Old School 4 stickers already blank backs? If I'm understanding the description correctly, the only difference between these stickers and the ones I bought from Topps online, is a hologram sticker on the back (?)

I can understand the attraction to the ANS blank backs that they sold on eBay because the ANS series all have puzzles, coupons, etc. printed on the back.

Unless I'm experiencing a huge brain fart (which happens with me a lot!), I do not see the difference.

Okay, I think I figured it out... each sticker has the hologram sticker on the back PLUS marked as 1/1.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 24, 2013, 02:31:59 PM
Okay, I think I figured it out... each sticker has the hologram sticker on the back PLUS marked as 1/1.

Like you said with the ANS cards the blank backs would be truly unique, but with Old School the only different from the ones Topps is selling looks like the hologram sticker on the back, which they could be sticking on the backs of the regular base cards.  It would be cooler if they had the hologram info printed on the backs so it was permanent and unique. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 24, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
Like you said with the ANS cards the blank backs would be truly unique, but with Old School the only different from the ones Topps is selling looks like the hologram sticker on the back, which they could be sticking on the backs of the regular base cards.  It would be cooler if they had the hologram info printed on the backs so it was permanent and unique. 

Those are horrible. Who would buy them? It will probably be one of those crazy collectors that will hand it over to Probstien and try to sell for $500 and sit on EBay forever.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 24, 2013, 10:51:48 PM
Those are horrible. Who would buy them? It will probably be one of those crazy collectors that will hand it over to Probstien and try to sell for $500 and sit on EBay forever.

I wouldn't buy them but I didn't even consider the truly 1/1 ANS cards with blank backs.  I don't really collect "one offs"' but I guess every sketch card is a one off so that's a contradiction.  If they are taking base Olds titles and slapping a sticker on them that's even less deasirable to me though.  At least the blank backs are at least unique.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on January 25, 2013, 09:40:27 AM
These aren't uncut proof cards like they've had for all the other recent new series?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 27, 2013, 09:13:54 AM

Not a huge outrage, but you gotta chuckle when it costs $4.99 to ship a sticker sold for a penny

http://www.amazon.com/Wacky-Packages-Glutton-Mustard-Sticker/dp/B00537X0Y8/ref=pd_rhf_ee_p_t_1_V4YC
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: moron_chicken on January 27, 2013, 09:29:08 AM
It was probably the cheap shipping that sold it.   

What am I missing on this one? Not only are the corners touched and the centering marginal, but the card actually SOLD @ $75??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1973-74-Series-5-Wacky-Packages-Head-Boulders-NMint-Condition-/221177601312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f365d20&nma=true&si=RPrLeRAwTeW%2FW8KBed1mJnfbnVc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 27, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
It was probably the cheap shipping that sold it.   


At $25, shouldn't that be Overnight instead of "2-6 business days"?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on January 27, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
At $25 that sticker better magically appear in front of me at the time of payment.  I wonder what else that moron wants to buy?  I have tons of average grade overpriced items I am looking to dump for at least 10x its actual worth.  Maybe he would be interested.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 06, 2013, 06:51:53 AM
This one is just plain crazy.  $75 for a reissue sticker!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crocked-wacky-Packages-1980-by-Topps-No-221-of-264-/111007738119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d893a907
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Stingline on February 06, 2013, 07:42:06 AM
I always debate contacting sellers when their stuff is just crazy weird priced or inaccurately described. There was a set on there with the borders obviously removed listed as MINT and I wanted to scream. Even after contacting the seller, his response was very evasive as to whether he thought the borders were removed and never actually said that. The skeptic in my screams fraud, but I know I have seen Wackies on eBay that were so badly described they were not in any of my standard searches, so some have no idea what they have. I think people with one card just search for wacky and sort by price and see a rare one for $100 and go there immediately. What blows me away is the ones that relist over and over the same mediocre common set of a few cards in rough shape at an outrageous BIN.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 10, 2013, 07:27:43 AM
L@@K a bargain!!! Very very rare!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221187851321&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BRUTE_88 on February 10, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
L@@K a bargain!!! Very very rare!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221187851321&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

It must be due to the fact that the top of Band-ache is on the sticker... ;o)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 07, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
Borderless stickers and some trimmed to the die cut, plus a bunch of marked checklists. Worth a fortune, right?

eBay auction: #300872376956
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on March 07, 2013, 08:33:29 PM
You beat me to it. This is one of the more clueless auctions I've seen in awhile.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Stingline on March 08, 2013, 02:34:40 AM
Borderless stickers and some trimmed to the die cut, plus a bunch of marked checklists. Worth a fortune, right?

eBay auction: #300872376956

"Cards show some wear and discoloration", classic.

Sadly, when I was a kid and with one of my first Wacky collections, I removed the borders (to make them look better) and put them in a photo album. Stupid kids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 08, 2013, 05:08:57 AM
"Cards show some wear and discoloration", classic.

Sadly, when I was a kid and with one of my first Wacky collections, I removed the borders (to make them look better) and put them in a photo album. Stupid kids.

Not stupid at all if that was how you enjoyed looking at them!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on March 09, 2013, 06:05:03 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Wacky-Packages-GAI-7-5-Foil-Pack-/181098264083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2a4c3613

Pardon my language folks, but WTF?

BIN= $45.95???????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on March 09, 2013, 06:08:43 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Wacky-Packages-GAI-7-5-Foil-Pack-/181098264083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2a4c3613

Pardon my language folks, but WTF?

BIN= $45.95???????

C'mon - it's graded!! It must be valuable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 09, 2013, 09:41:08 AM
I just noticed that Clint is selling the postcard series 6 bonus card H8 for $124.97 BIN. I purchased one on ebay last year for $3 WTF! He also has "Clucky" & "Hoppy Meal" for the same price, those two never sell cheap but damn! Are these prices reasonable?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-TS8-RARE-H8-SERIES-6-POSTCARDS-BONUS-CARD-V8-JUICE-SPOOF-/380588748881?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589cdb7051 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-TS8-RARE-H8-SERIES-6-POSTCARDS-BONUS-CARD-V8-JUICE-SPOOF-/380588748881?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589cdb7051)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on March 09, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
I just noticed that Clint is selling the postcard series 6 bonus card H8 for $124.97 BIN. I purchased one on ebay last year for $3 WTF! He also has "Clucky" & "Hoppy Meal" for the same price, those two never sell cheap but damn! Are these prices reasonable?


No. Especially since the entire postcard series 6 set with bonus card H8 can be purchased from Topps for $6.95.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 09, 2013, 10:39:56 AM
I just noticed that Clint is selling the postcard series 6 bonus card H8 for $124.97 BIN. I purchased one on ebay last year for $3 WTF! He also has "Clucky" & "Hoppy Meal" for the same price, those two never sell cheap but damn! Are these prices reasonable?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-TS8-RARE-H8-SERIES-6-POSTCARDS-BONUS-CARD-V8-JUICE-SPOOF-/380588748881?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589cdb7051 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-TS8-RARE-H8-SERIES-6-POSTCARDS-BONUS-CARD-V8-JUICE-SPOOF-/380588748881?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589cdb7051)

He's just playing the odds that a newbie wouldn't know. He does a lot of this stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 10, 2013, 01:34:25 PM
No. Especially since the entire postcard series 6 set with bonus card H8 can be purchased from Topps for $6.95.

Wow that's ridiculous. I didn't realize that Topps still had the older series in stock; I assumed that they would be sold out after almost 3 years.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 11, 2013, 10:33:53 AM
He's just playing the odds that a newbie wouldn't know. He does a lot of this stuff.

That is definitely lame! Wow, amazing...


Ok, here's one. The brief description on this one gets better and better the more you read:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1974-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-PACK-KOOK-AID-CARD-/151010318030?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

And another one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packs-1979-Series-2-Error-Card-no-numbers-on-bottom-Eviltime-123-/171005199805?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 11, 2013, 10:01:59 PM



When I read that description I almost threw up in my mouth.  The hair thing was grossing me out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on March 12, 2013, 09:54:10 PM
That is definitely lame! Wow, amazing...


Ok, here's one. The brief description on this one gets better and better the more you read:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1974-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-PACK-KOOK-AID-CARD-/151010318030?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

And another one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packs-1979-Series-2-Error-Card-no-numbers-on-bottom-Eviltime-123-/171005199805?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

The first one is indeed gross (how did the hair get there I wonder?), but the second description is classic. And I love how the seller assures us that "item will be shipped carefully in small bubble wrap mailer." Wouldn't want this card getting damaged in transit, now would you.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 12, 2013, 10:07:21 PM
The first one is indeed gross (how did the hair get there I wonder?), but the second description is classic. And I love how the seller assures us that "item will be shipped carefully in small bubble wrap mailer." Wouldn't want this card getting damaged in transit, now would you.


Too funny! I might bid just to see the sticky penny sleeve and hair. WOW
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 12, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
Too funny! I might bid just to see the sticky penny sleeve and hair. WOW

I just placed a bid and kinda threw-up in my mouth.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 12, 2013, 10:13:11 PM
I'm still laughing....
So if I pull the hairs aside an i guaranteed a PSA 4? LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 13, 2013, 05:50:35 AM
I'm still laughing....
So if I pull the hairs aside an i guaranteed a PSA 4? LOL

Are there any PSA grading guidelines for a sticker/card that has reached puberty?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 13, 2013, 10:11:54 AM
Are there any PSA grading guidelines for a sticker/card that has reached puberty?
Puberty Sticker Authenticators
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on March 13, 2013, 10:54:14 AM
I'm still laughing....
So if I pull the hairs aside an i guaranteed a PSA 4? LOL

That sticker reminds me of the famous hair on pizza scene in "She's All That".  Yuck.  As much as I would never want to think of a Wacky item as trash, THAT sticker should have become 'Wacky Garbage'... unless it truly was a 10th Series Kook-Aid variation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 15, 2013, 06:10:06 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-1975-15th-series-unopened-very-rare-81-fold-Wax-Pack-/271172998930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f232b9712


This auction has it all:

1. Seller describes the pack as "81-fold"
2. Seller describes the pack as 15th series when it is 7th gumless
3. Seller describes pack as "ultra rare" when in fact it is probably the most common original series pack

Hat trick!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 15, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-1975-15th-series-unopened-very-rare-81-fold-Wax-Pack-/271172998930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f232b9712


This auction has it all:

1. Seller describes the pack as "81-fold"
2. Seller describes the pack as 15th series when it is 7th gumless
3. Seller describes pack as "ultra rare" when in fact it is probably the most common original series pack

Hat trick!

He probably wants to be everything to everyone...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 18, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
In my best voice from "My cousin Vinny".....IDENTICAL!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-LUDLOW-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Package-CAPN-CRUD-Pack-NM-MINT-/221203373841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3380bf9f11

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-LUDLOW-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Package-COMMIE-Pack-NM-MINT-/321092522243?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac29b1103


Hmmmmm......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 18, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
In my best voice from "My cousin Vinny".....IDENTICAL!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-LUDLOW-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Package-CAPN-CRUD-Pack-NM-MINT-/221203373841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3380bf9f11

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-LUDLOW-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Package-COMMIE-Pack-NM-MINT-/321092522243?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac29b1103


Hmmmmm......

He uses the same image over and over. If you bought one of his cards chances are it will be different. I don't trust him at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 18, 2013, 08:15:17 PM
I just placed a bid and kinda threw-up in my mouth.

Update. I got out bid on this auction. Why? LOL the seller was probably shilling.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 19, 2013, 11:21:29 AM
Update. I got out bid on this auction. Why? LOL the seller was probably shilling.

LOL! I bet someone here was even more curious than you. We'll have to see if someone eventually confesses!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 20, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
eBay auction: #171010720750
I don't know if this belongs here but does Jays sig enhance a nice card or devalue it? I would think this is probably now worthless. If it was Norm Saunders I would probably go the other way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 20, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
eBay auction: #171010720750
I don't know if this belongs here but does Jays sig enhance a nice card or devalue it? I would think this is probably now worthless. If it was Norm Saunders I would probably go the other way.

But he has proff that he signed it. Jay's awesome, I would think that at least it's value would stay the same.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 20, 2013, 10:15:51 PM
eBay auction: #171010720750
I don't know if this belongs here but does Jays sig enhance a nice card or devalue it? I would think this is probably now worthless. If it was Norm Saunders I would probably go the other way.
Devalues it, stupid to have signatures done on regular stickers like that even if it is someone cool like Jay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jaylynch on March 21, 2013, 07:23:57 AM
I signed it outside of the cut marks, though.  So the buyer can still stick it on his or her bike without the signature conflicting with the humor of the image.
The sticker has a so-called "hickey" on it.  A tiny air bubble in the corner there where the black ink didn't cover the blue ink.  Doesn't that also have
something to do with it's value? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 21, 2013, 07:28:17 AM
I signed it outside of the cut marks, though.  So the buyer can still stick it on his or her bike without the signature conflicting with the humor of the image.
The sticker has a so-called "hickey" on it.  A tiny air bubble in the corner there where the black ink didn't cover the blue ink.  Doesn't that also have
something to do with it's value? 

I see four hickeys (one is very small). Dang, Jay, you must have really liked this sticker! ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jaylynch on March 21, 2013, 08:46:21 AM
Well, although Pepsi has denied that the tissue from the kidneys of of aborted human fetuses is now used as a sweetener in their products (which is categorically true, since it is actually the waste products produced by cultures of human kidney tissue cells...fetal or otherwise... which ultimately winds up in  the product rather than the cells themselves), I find that for once the Pope and I are on the same side of a controversy.   But I was wrong on this one in that it would be the POOPSIE Cola sticker that the Pope would more likely buy to stick on his bike.  I just commented prematurely on this without weighing the potential results of this auction fully.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on March 21, 2013, 10:40:27 AM
I signed it outside of the cut marks, though.  So the buyer can still stick it on his or her bike without the signature conflicting with the humor of the image.
The sticker has a so-called "hickey" on it.  A tiny air bubble in the corner there where the black ink didn't cover the blue ink.  Doesn't that also have
something to do with it's value? 

...and I thought they were just GAS bubbles ...perhaps causing the omnipresent Burpsi (Belch) :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 21, 2013, 07:49:40 PM
eBay auction: #171010720750
I don't know if this belongs here but does Jays sig enhance a nice card or devalue it? I would think this is probably now worthless. If it was Norm Saunders I would probably go the other way.
If it were Jay's sticker and he wrote it on the back, that may make it better...lol.

"PUSI IS HARD TO GET".  [sigh] yeah, sometimes it is...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 21, 2013, 08:13:49 PM
If it were Jay's sticker and he wrote it on the back, that may make it better...lol.

"PUSI IS HARD TO GET".  [sigh] yeah, sometimes it is...

HaHa! I just read the description and now can't quit laughing. I didn't understand what you said so had to look at the auction again. Good catch! Also it depends on if your fussy..LOL Pusi can be found everywhere...LOL...Still laughing....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 22, 2013, 06:07:29 AM
Once again my hopes were dashed....another pack purporting to be one of my holy grails, but again, it's just a common
12th....

eBay auction: #230950506879
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 22, 2013, 06:35:42 AM
Hey Dave,

I will have to post a pic of the ultimate faked pack. Fortunately I got it for a cheap price.  It is a series 15 21-fold pack, which are a lot harder to get thant he 85's.  When I got it, as always, I inspected it.  With the 21's, you can easily look inside the back of the pack by bending it a little and the opening pops open a little.  The first thing I see is the back fo the series 15 checklist....with about half of the boxes checked off!!  Then I look at the seal and pull at it a little, and it is rubber-cemented shut.  I think it would rip apart if I tried to open it, which I will to kill the obvious fake.  Bummer al the way around.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 22, 2013, 07:42:55 AM
Hey Dave,

I will have to post a pic of the ultimate faked pack. Fortunately I got it for a cheap price.  It is a series 15 21-fold pack, which are a lot harder to get thant he 85's.  When I got it, as always, I inspected it.  With the 21's, you can easily look inside the back of the pack by bending it a little and the opening pops open a little.  The first thing I see is the back fo the series 15 checklist....with about half of the boxes checked off!!  Then I look at the seal and pull at it a little, and it is rubber-cemented shut.  I think it would rip apart if I tried to open it, which I will to kill the obvious fake.  Bummer al the way around.

Do we have a "Buyers Beware" thread? Would be great to have a single thread where people can post eBay dealers, etc., with whom they've had questionable experiences.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 22, 2013, 08:44:06 AM
Hey Dave,

I will have to post a pic of the ultimate faked pack. Fortunately I got it for a cheap price.  It is a series 15 21-fold pack, which are a lot harder to get thant he 85's.  When I got it, as always, I inspected it.  With the 21's, you can easily look inside the back of the pack by bending it a little and the opening pops open a little.  The first thing I see is the back fo the series 15 checklist....with about half of the boxes checked off!!  Then I look at the seal and pull at it a little, and it is rubber-cemented shut.  I think it would rip apart if I tried to open it, which I will to kill the obvious fake.  Bummer al the way around.
Who sold this to you?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 22, 2013, 10:47:42 AM
Who sold this to you?

Somebody named sd1945dd.  Of course in my infinite wisdom I left positive feedback before I really looked it over.  I had won a lot of auctions and I was just glancing at my loot.  I just looked him up.  He has 6 semi-recent negatives. Not a huge deal thought.  I paid $15.  Not my worst ebay burn ever.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 02, 2013, 06:21:12 AM
I thought this might have been an unfolded poster, or at least a '73 test poster. You can, however, make an offer on this $5 worn '74 poster (asking $145 + $9 s/h), and it's also available for "private inspection" in advance of purchase :D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Wacky-Packages-Poster-Blast-Blew-Ribbon-Beer-Milwaukee-Burp-/130813850845?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item1e751cf4dd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on April 04, 2013, 11:29:49 PM
Speaking of nuts, I found an item of some interest...I guess...

What people won't sell to make a buck.  And yes, apparently one sold.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EL900-1-4-KANGAROO-SCROTUM-Leather-POUCH-coin-purse-WEIRD-ball-bag-hide-roo-/300879014425?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460dc96a19
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 05, 2013, 01:42:07 AM
Speaking of nuts, I found an item of some interest...I guess...

What people won't sell to make a buck.  And yes, apparently one sold.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EL900-1-4-KANGAROO-SCROTUM-Leather-POUCH-coin-purse-WEIRD-ball-bag-hide-roo-/300879014425?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460dc96a19

Reminds me of the following item I've seen before...

eBay auction: #261152616567
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 05, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
Reminds me of the following item I've seen before...

eBay auction: #261152616567

That seller also has the purses, advertised as "authentic roo scrotes"  :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 05, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
What, what?
eBay auction: #350759985919
eBay auction: #350759986959
eBay auction: #350759987721
 eBay auction: #140949371918

same seller. Why some higher priced than others? Buyer beware. Stay away so these pack searchers go away.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 05, 2013, 11:30:59 PM
STAY AWAY!!!!!!! Seriously! These are probably garbage. Go ahead and ask me why? See the sellers other items. In my best Matt Stock voice..... Nuff said... No Sketch...... What an ass!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 06, 2013, 06:30:52 AM
"Like Wacky Packages" ?   

eBay auction: #261196407424

Oh, yeah... They are both trading card shaped.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 06, 2013, 09:55:55 AM
"Like Wacky Packages" ?   

eBay auction: #261196407424

Oh, yeah... They are both trading card shaped.

I'm surprised it didn't say 'No Sketch' in the title...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Stingline on April 06, 2013, 10:08:51 AM
"Like Wacky Packages" ?   

eBay auction: #261196407424

Oh, yeah... They are both trading card shaped.

On a related note, "I know what I'll do, search eBay for the words L@@K and HOT!", said no eBay buyer ever.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Alfreds.MAD.World... on April 06, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
On a related note, "I know what I'll do, search eBay for the words L@@K and HOT!", said no eBay buyer ever.



typing in the just the word "rare" brings up some interesting things, just sayin.

non- sarcasm related.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 10, 2013, 07:23:02 AM
If anyone doesn't understand the motivation to get nice stuff graded:

eBay auction: #400449499945

I had my Jail-O die cut, which I paid $24 for, graded a PSA 9 recently. Assuming this kind of sale is not an aberration, the value of my Jail-O has been increased by 2300% for a $6 grading fee.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on April 10, 2013, 09:33:48 AM
If anyone doesn't understand the motivation to get nice stuff graded:

eBay auction: #400449499945

I had my Jail-O die cut, which I paid $24 for, graded a PSA 9 recently. Assuming this kind of sale is not an aberration, the value of my Jail-O has been increased by 2300% for a $6 grading fee.
hurry up and sell it.  The people that bid on that one should bid on yours also.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 10, 2013, 09:44:51 AM
hurry up and sell it.  The people that bid on that one should bid on yours also.

It could also be due to the title as well so there is no guarantee.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 10, 2013, 09:45:44 AM
If anyone doesn't understand the motivation to get nice stuff graded:

eBay auction: #400449499945

I had my Jail-O die cut, which I paid $24 for, graded a PSA 9 recently. Assuming this kind of sale is not an aberration, the value of my Jail-O has been increased by 2300% for a $6 grading fee.
It is a crap shoot on grading so you didn't seem to factor in the odds of PSA screwing up the grade, also the next highest bidder after the two clowns ran it up to $600 is around $400 so the return isn't quite 2300%, more like 1300%  :P

I don't recall your listing your main motivation to be profiteering.  I guess I should have been more diligent in not allowing my high grade stickers to go for like $10 and less back in the day I allowed my extras to be cherry picked.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 10, 2013, 10:30:15 AM


I don't recall your listing your main motivation to be profiteering.  I guess I should have been more diligent in not allowing my high grade stickers to go for like $10 and less back in the day I allowed my extras to be cherry picked.


You misunderstand, I'm not selling anything, nor am I profiteering. Given that I have a PSA 9 quality sticker, by getting it graded I'm increasing its value. This is relevant not just to "profiteering", but also should a spouse or child need to sell one's collection should the need arise.

As far as allowing cherry picking, I certainly appreciate your selling me nice stickers in the past. However, I can't say I would resent it if you had a PSA 10 quality sticker and wanted to either a.) have it graded before selling or b.) charge a fair premium if selling it ungraded. I've had other collectors pursue those avenues in the past and I completely understand such decisions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BRUTE_88 on April 10, 2013, 01:42:06 PM
[I don't recall your listing your main motivation to be profiteering.  I guess I should have been more diligent in not allowing my high grade stickers to go for like $10 and less back in the day I allowed my extras to be cherry picked.

[/quote]

Hey Ern, I had the same thing happen to me over the decade in regards to being cherry picked, until I found some of the guys re-selling them for at least 10x the amount...  Had no idea that those stickers would fetch such a price tag.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 10, 2013, 03:10:55 PM
Since we're on the topic of graded cards check out these bad boys. The seller has a treasure trove of gem mint cards, snatch them up while you can.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Posters-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-4-Sticker-Graded-10-Gem-MT-/140947536703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d120bb3f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Posters-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-4-Sticker-Graded-10-Gem-MT-/140947536703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d120bb3f)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 10, 2013, 03:12:31 PM
You misunderstand, I'm not selling anything, nor am I profiteering. Given that I have a PSA 9 quality sticker, by getting it graded I'm increasing its value. This is relevant not just to "profiteering", but also should a spouse or child need to sell one's collection should the need arise.

As far as allowing cherry picking, I certainly appreciate your selling me nice stickers in the past. However, I can't say I would resent it if you had a PSA 10 quality sticker and wanted to either a.) have it graded before selling or b.) charge a fair premium if selling it ungraded. I've had other collectors pursue those avenues in the past and I completely understand such decisions.

I know what you mean about value for later, have been thinking on this since I started buying Wacky art.  If I get run over by a bus next week, I'd hate to think my family might sell a valuable painting for a song.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 10, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Since we're on the topic of graded cards check out these bad boys. The seller has a treasure trove of gem mint cards, snatch them up while you can.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Posters-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-4-Sticker-Graded-10-Gem-MT-/140947536703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d120bb3f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Posters-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-4-Sticker-Graded-10-Gem-MT-/140947536703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d120bb3f)

Too funny! This is an 18 year old high school senior trying to make a buck. I've never heard of GMA grading until now. I went to their site and it's $2 a card with a 5 day turnaround.
We might be spending too much using PSA :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 10, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
I know what you mean about value for later, have been thinking on this since I started buying Wacky art.  If I get run over by a bus next week, I'd hate to think my family might sell a valuable painting for a song.
get that art graded, pronto! slab it and tag it.  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 11, 2013, 06:22:18 AM
I know what you mean about value for later, have been thinking on this since I started buying Wacky art.  If I get run over by a bus next week, I'd hate to think my family might sell a valuable painting for a song.

get that art graded, pronto! slab it and tag it.  ;)

We've seen that original art always sells for a premium when straight from the Topps Vault or with the Topps Vault provenance. While I agree that's meaningless to knowledgeable collectors, apparently it's worth the premium to novice buyers for added peace of mind.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion on PSA and grading. The bottom line to me is that PSA provides third party, unbiased validation as to the quality of the card. There are various reasons that may be desirable to the owner of a high grade card:

1. Obviously if selling the card, it will bring an astronomically higher price
2. It enhances the value (important for other reasons I've detailed above)
3. Money/value aside, it gives validation to the owner that their card is as nice as they think it is. It may sound silly, but "pride of ownership" is a big part of collecting. I might think my 1st series set is very nice, but I obviously have a vested interest in thinking that. The 3rd party validation means my card is nice in a way that an entire group of collectors will "believe." Whether for purposes 1 and 2, friendly competition (registry sets), or just pride of ownership, it lends a "group credibility" that is otherwise unachievable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 11, 2013, 08:40:43 AM
[I don't recall your listing your main motivation to be profiteering.  I guess I should have been more diligent in not allowing my high grade stickers to go for like $10 and less back in the day I allowed my extras to be cherry picked.



Hey Ern, I had the same thing happen to me over the decade in regards to being cherry picked, until I found some of the guys re-selling them for at least 10x the amount...  Had no idea that those stickers would fetch such a price tag.
Nor did I.  PSA escalation value was not well established so if I knew today what I knew then, I wouldn't allow the cherry picking.  I know I sold PSA gradable stuff because I took some of the "leftovers" and still got a pile of PSA8s from my series 1 titles so I have no doubt I sold some PSA9s for a small "high grade premium".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 12, 2013, 06:37:49 AM
Is this 2 newbies fighting over what each thinks is grime heavy, or am I missing something??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-7th-Series-7-GRIME-DOG-CHOW-/321102617480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac3351b88&nma=true&si=a4baozf8zPIdnw8H7g3DzfoQYhE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 12, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
I'm still laughing myself silly over this one

a highlight: "Flashback 2 was one of the hardest to get series to get and most prized to obtain! "

eBay auction: #121093499385
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 12, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
I'm still laughing myself silly over this one

a highlight: "Flashback 2 was one of the hardest to get series to get and most prized to obtain! "

eBay auction: #121093499385

Plus it comes in a rare white box!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 12, 2013, 04:32:21 PM
I'm still laughing myself silly over this one

a highlight: "Flashback 2 was one of the hardest to get series to get and most prized to obtain! "

eBay auction: #121093499385

That is one sssssssswwwwwweeeeeeeetttttttttt  auction!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on April 12, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
I'm still laughing myself silly over this one

a highlight: "Flashback 2 was one of the hardest to get series to get and most prized to obtain! "

eBay auction: #121093499385

Sounds to me like whoever typed that description should lay off the crack pipe.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 12, 2013, 05:40:12 PM
Sounds to me like whoever typed that description should lay off the crack pipe.

You know you're in trouble when there are 37 !'s in the description.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 13, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
I'm still laughing myself silly over this one

a highlight: "Flashback 2 was one of the hardest to get series to get and most prized to obtain! "

eBay auction: #121093499385

I love this part. :]

"I have one box left I wanna give up atleast right now-I may change my mind"

At any moment now this guy could come to his senses and yank this auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on April 13, 2013, 04:30:08 PM
I feel like I should be thanking him just for having the opportunity to purchase one of his coveted white boxes.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on April 14, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
Can't believe I missed this one....this "Stinks"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Lox-Soap-OLDS4-Old-School-Series-4-Smokin-Joe-Sketch-/310646275874?nma=true&si=3O3yOZr75MUQCcwHKK5xQbh1vO8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This one should be relisted in      10....9....8......7.....6....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 14, 2013, 04:35:54 PM
Can't believe I missed this one....this "Stinks"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Lox-Soap-OLDS4-Old-School-Series-4-Smokin-Joe-Sketch-/310646275874?nma=true&si=3O3yOZr75MUQCcwHKK5xQbh1vO8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This one should be relisted in      10....9....8......7.....6....

I know the guy that bought that. I will have to message him. That's obscene.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 14, 2013, 04:40:50 PM
Wow, he was even willing to go higher. He had the last two bids. :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 14, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
I know the guy that bought that. I will have to message him. That's obscene.
"guy"?  Isn't that sugar mommy?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 14, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
"guy"?  Isn't that sugar mommy?

Nope. It was a war between 2 guys.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Stingline on April 15, 2013, 06:08:51 AM
Nope. It was a war between 2 guys.

I thought he was implying that the person who won must have a "sugar momma" with some cash to fund his addiction and willingness to pay outrageous $$ for a sketch.

It's kind of like when I watch Restaurant Impossible and there's these lunatics who have no idea how to run a business and you think, "how the hell are they surviving losing money like that and acting like complete tools" and it turns out their wives or parents are dumping cash into the business. It's easy to overspend when it's not your money. But maybe I am reading too much into the original comment :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 15, 2013, 07:30:30 AM
I thought he was implying that the person who won must have a "sugar momma" with some cash to fund his addiction and willingness to pay outrageous $$ for a sketch.

It's kind of like when I watch Restaurant Impossible and there's these lunatics who have no idea how to run a business and you think, "how the hell are they surviving losing money like that and acting like complete tools" and it turns out their wives or parents are dumping cash into the business. It's easy to overspend when it's not your money. But maybe I am reading too much into the original comment :)

I think he was refering to one particular woman Wacky Packages sketch enthusiast who seems to have a large cash resource at her disposal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 15, 2013, 08:46:18 AM
I think he was refering to one particular woman Wacky Packages sketch enthusiast who seems to have a large cash resource at her disposal.
yes
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 15, 2013, 02:45:02 PM
I thought he was implying that the person who won must have a "sugar momma" with some cash to fund his addiction and willingness to pay outrageous $$ for a sketch.

It's kind of like when I watch Restaurant Impossible and there's these lunatics who have no idea how to run a business and you think, "how the hell are they surviving losing money like that and acting like complete tools" and it turns out their wives or parents are dumping cash into the business. It's easy to overspend when it's not your money. But maybe I am reading too much into the original comment :)

I watched several Restaurant Impossible episodes last night.  HOW do you buy a business without learning how to run it??  One owner never even thought to taste the food!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on April 24, 2013, 11:00:41 AM
I watched several Restaurant Impossible episodes last night.  HOW do you buy a business without learning how to run it??  One owner never even thought to taste the food!!!

How did people purchase houses w/o the proper income and occupation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 24, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
I watched several Restaurant Impossible episodes last night.  HOW do you buy a business without learning how to run it??  One owner never even thought to taste the food!!!

I’ve been watching Restaurant Impossible. Like Singline said, it’s easy to be recklessly ignorant and overspend when it's not your money! So many of the financial backers are parents and relatives. In the workplace there is a similar common phenomenon. A hired manager will sometimes keep a poor employee on board for many years, sometimes decades, because the cash doesn’t come out of their pocket. If the boss had to pay the same employee out of their own wallet, they’d be fired in a flash. Some of these restaurant business owners are in the same boat – if it was their own cash they were spending, they would at least occasionally taste the food, lol, and take their financial losses more seriously.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on April 24, 2013, 01:39:57 PM
How did people purchase houses w/o the proper income and occupation.

Those loans where called ninja loans or liar loans  "no income no job" or put what you want down we won't ask for proof.  Those people payed a higher rate but didn't have to prove anything.  It was originally for self employed people who deduct everything, but like everything else it was leveraged for what it wasn't supposed to be.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 01, 2013, 05:37:52 AM
not sure if they think they have a gold card or just clueless

eBay auction: #181133000998
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on May 01, 2013, 05:40:23 AM
Those loans where called ninja loans or liar loans  "no income no job" or put what you want down we won't ask for proof.  Those people payed a higher rate but didn't have to prove anything.  It was originally for self employed people who deduct everything, but like everything else it was leveraged for what it wasn't supposed to be.

Correct...those were "no Doc" loans...in CA you have secretaries buying $600K homes...making up their income..see where we are now!! It certainly was WACKY!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 01, 2013, 07:57:23 AM
not sure if they think they have a gold card or just clueless

eBay auction: #181133000998

That's too much!

I like this line in the description, "Original Release Date 1973"

And this, "Limit Series of 72 Flashback Sticker in set"

And the fact they say "1:206 packs" makes me think you are correct - for some reason they think this is a gold

 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 01, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
They must think the yellowish color between the pink footprints is the "gold border".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2013, 08:33:49 PM
Not saying Clint is nuts but he has quite a few sketches that he keeps relisting on eBay for at least a couple years. He's treated me well but maybe I overpaid... :o
I sent him a best offer $200 a couple years ago for this sketch eBay auction: #380551177207 but he declined. He recently offered it for $150 but now its up to $175 or best offer. If he didn't take my offer then I don't know what to offer now. I know, as a seller, you want a great deal, but a few sellers would rather hang on to cards or sketches for several years than to sell of a profit now.
I want to deal my doubles and such right away when they are hot but some sellers will hold on to them for a very long time. I don't know how they have the patience to keep relisting every month. What don't I get?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on May 03, 2013, 05:51:12 AM
Not saying Clint is nuts but he has quite a few sketches that he keeps relisting on eBay for at least a couple years. He's treated me well but maybe I overpaid... :o
I sent him a best offer $200 a couple years ago for this sketch eBay auction: #380551177207 but he declined. He recently offered it for $150 but now its up to $175 or best offer. If he didn't take my offer then I don't know what to offer now. I know, as a seller, you want a great deal, but a few sellers would rather hang on to cards or sketches for several years than to sell of a profit now.
I want to deal my doubles and such right away when they are hot but some sellers will hold on to them for a very long time. I don't know how they have the patience to keep relisting every month. What don't I get?

maybe he doesn't like you and won't sell it to you @ any price??  :] :] :]be careful he smokes...NOT a SMOKE-FREE HOME!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2013, 06:10:01 AM
Not saying Clint is nuts but he has quite a few sketches that he keeps relisting on eBay for at least a couple years. He's treated me well but maybe I overpaid... :o
I sent him a best offer $200 a couple years ago for this sketch eBay auction: #380551177207 but he declined. He recently offered it for $150 but now its up to $175 or best offer. If he didn't take my offer then I don't know what to offer now. I know, as a seller, you want a great deal, but a few sellers would rather hang on to cards or sketches for several years than to sell of a profit now.
I want to deal my doubles and such right away when they are hot but some sellers will hold on to them for a very long time. I don't know how they have the patience to keep relisting every month. What don't I get?

I don't think you are missing anything other than "different strokes for different folks." Like you, I'm not an extremely patient person. During any given series, I buy, sell & trade my extras while everyone else is in the market, and I blow out all my dupes, close the books & move on to the next series relatively quickly. There are pros & cons to that which are not known at the time i.e. I sold many mid series postcard bonus cards (H8, Clucky, Hoppy meal...) and bio sets in the $20 to $30 range and was happy to get the cash to recoup some or all of my outlay. Now many of the bonus cards are selling in the $100 range, and some of the bio sets you can't give away. The sketch market seems to be crashing - I remember when marginal color sketches were $300 or $400 and really nice ones were over $1000. Now you can get really nice color sketches in the $100 to $200 range. Beautiful artist return sketches aren't even a blip on the radar & crappy sketches are getting punished (or their owners are) with .99 auction prices. Point is, you never know where these items will end up, and sometimes people don't care if they sell a nice item that acts as good "window dressing" in their store until the right (i gotta have it) buyer comes by. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes you don't care & say I'll keep it if it doesn't sell because I really like it. All in all, Clint has done right by me in my dealings, and he seems to sell a lot of wackys, so IMO, he knows what he is doing, even if it's not the same thing as you might do or as I might do.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 03, 2013, 09:15:07 AM
I sent him a best offer $200 a couple years ago for this sketch eBay auction: #380551177207 but he declined. He recently offered it for $150 but now its up to $175 or best offer. If he didn't take my offer then I don't know what to offer now.
At the moment, it's on sale for under $150. I'd suggest offering him $100-$125. He may go for it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 03, 2013, 04:35:21 PM
At the moment, it's on sale for under $150. I'd suggest offering him $100-$125. He may go for it.

HaHa, I've moved on. I've seen it so much on ebay that I don't need it in my collection. :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on May 04, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wack-pack-rare-Awful-Apps-card-1-3132-odds-2013-topps-/140970070925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d278938d   :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on May 04, 2013, 02:55:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wack-pack-rare-Awful-Apps-card-1-3132-odds-2013-topps-/140970070925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d278938d   :-\

I guess the seller names MikeHunt one through five were taken.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 04, 2013, 09:14:56 PM
Am I missing something about that card?  What is he claiming that is so special? 

I just spent 8 hours at Six Flags riding roller coasters so I may not necessarily notice the obvious at this point.  I feel like my body has been abused.  Went on Viper, Tatsu, Batman the Ride, Riddler's Revenge, Green Latern (I think it was called that), Golaith, and X2.  Those rides are pretty crazy.  Especially Tatsu and X2.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 05, 2013, 06:45:28 AM
Am I missing something about that card?  What is he claiming that is so special? 
they mistakenly believe they have a cloth version. but it's not.
I see the auction has been taken down.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 07, 2013, 03:28:35 AM
Well, probably not "nuts" but this one is defintely a victim of a quick auction creation using another as a template and not going back to edit.... eBay auction: #221224017554

Rarer than a 1973 sketch card? I think not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 07, 2013, 05:03:52 AM
Well, probably not "nuts" but this one is defintely a victim of a quick auction creation using another as a template and not going back to edit.... eBay auction: #221224017554

Rarer than a 1973 sketch card? I think not.
He puts sketch in most of his listing titles. I think he is trying to get as many search hits as possible.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 07, 2013, 06:03:53 AM
It's called keyword spamming, and not only is it a violation of ebay policy, but it just turns people off because they get sucked into your auctions when they're not really interested.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 12, 2013, 08:22:22 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221215235537?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


I think I was nuts not to buy this great sketch.  Amazing art!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on May 14, 2013, 08:57:31 PM
Check out this auction for a partial dicut. The auction states "It also has a portion cut away for reasons unknown." :]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6-Slum-Maid-Raisins-Card-Test-Print-w-o-Die-Cut-/190812497567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6d4fa69f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6-Slum-Maid-Raisins-Card-Test-Print-w-o-Die-Cut-/190812497567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6d4fa69f)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 14, 2013, 09:15:20 PM
Check out this auction for a partial dicut. The auction states "It also has a portion cut away for reasons unknown." :]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6-Slum-Maid-Raisins-Card-Test-Print-w-o-Die-Cut-/190812497567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6d4fa69f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6-Slum-Maid-Raisins-Card-Test-Print-w-o-Die-Cut-/190812497567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6d4fa69f)



whatever. total bs.

we already know *exactly* why there is a piece cut out of that. they cut up a toppsvault proof sheet.

I see they submitted a Jolly Mean from that sheet for grading too. Doesn't GAI care that it's a modern day cut? Is that worse than trimming?

http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552.htm

(http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552_files/DSC00284.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 15, 2013, 07:51:55 AM
whatever. total bs.

we already know *exactly* why there is a piece cut out of that. they cut up a toppsvault proof sheet.

I see they submitted a Jolly Mean from that sheet for grading too. Doesn't GAI care that it's a modern day cut? Is that worse than trimming?

http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552.htm

(http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552_files/DSC00284.jpg)

Does anyone know who db2995 is?  Good detective work.  I see that he won that proof sheet a while ago.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 15, 2013, 10:18:34 AM
Wow. Indeed: nice detective work!  :great:

Seems likely this seller is going to cut these up and try to pass them off - one by one - as some kind of "Wacky Mystery".

Heck, they'll probably try weird pairs of them (since it actually takes them less time/energy/whatever) as "Lost Hostess Wackys?!? L@@K!!".

Evil.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 15, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
Seems likely this seller is going to cut these up and try to pass them off - one by one - as some kind of "Wacky Mystery".
they're currently selling a GAI 9 Jolly Mean from this sheet - and they just say it's an interesting proof card without a die-cut.

seems like a total sham to allow modern day card cutting to count towards high grades. it's worse than trimming, as it's not obvious.
but whatever it takes to get those pointy corners, a high grade, and more money, I guess
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 15, 2013, 01:51:11 PM
they're currently selling a GAI 9 Jolly Mean from this sheet - and they just say it's an interesting proof card without a die-cut.

seems like a total sham to allow modern day card cutting to count towards high grades. it's worse than trimming, as it's not obvious.
but whatever it takes to get those pointy corners, a high grade, and more money, I guess

You think taking an uncut sheet and having it professionally cut is worse than trimming a card down to give it sharp corners?  If so I don't agree with that.  Having an uncut sheet cut down, assuming it is done properly with a commercial guillotine machine, is basically yielding the same cards that came out of packs.  Trimming cards is cheating in order to get a higher grade, and in most cases will result in a smaller than the 2.5" x 3.5" proper spec.   
 
I do think however that if someone has an uncut sheet and has it cut into singles, it should be divulged during a sale so there's nothing hidden about it, but I don't consider it cheating or dishonest if the information isn't hidden from the sale.     

     
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 15, 2013, 02:04:16 PM

I do think however that if someone has an uncut sheet and has it cut into singles, it should be divulged during a sale so there's nothing hidden about it, but I don't consider it cheating or dishonest if the information isn't hidden from the sale.     

     

Bingo. It's fine as long as it's divulged, the problem is when the card is ultimately re-sold it will eventually not be divulged by a greedy seller. PSA refuses to grade sheet cut cards, and as long as they can ascertain that, I'm glad, because I wouldn't want one at any price, and certainly not at the huge premium an original high grade example would bring.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 15, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Bingo. It's fine as long as it's divulged, the problem is when the card is ultimately re-sold it will eventually not be divulged by a greedy seller. PSA refuses to grade sheet cut cards, and as long as they can ascertain that, I'm glad, because I wouldn't want one at any price, and certainly not at the huge premium an original high grade example would bring.
if the seller would divulge it, that'd be nice, but clearly db2995 doesn't find that necessary.
he bought the original sheet, cut it up and he's selling the cut cards without stating that info.
$900 for a 'fake' mint Jolly Mean. and some sucker will probably buy it too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 15, 2013, 03:57:34 PM
You think taking an uncut sheet and having it professionally cut is worse than trimming a card down to give it sharp corners?  If so I don't agree with that. 
I do think it's worse. it's fraud that's almost undetectable.
At least PSA has some standards and won't grade these fakes.
trimming is deceitful too, but has a better chance of being spotted by collectors, not just grading services, because of the incorrect card size
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on May 15, 2013, 04:34:35 PM
whatever. total bs.

we already know *exactly* why there is a piece cut out of that. they cut up a toppsvault proof sheet.

I see they submitted a Jolly Mean from that sheet for grading too. Doesn't GAI care that it's a modern day cut? Is that worse than trimming?

http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552.htm


"1967 Topps Wacky Packages Die-Cuts Uncut Proof Sheet. Direct from Topps' legendary Vault, this is an actual in-house production sheet featuring 87 1967 Wacky Packages die-cuts. Includes the big three, Ratz Crackers, Cracked Animals and Boredom's Instant Coffee."

I'm guessing that Boredom's is listed as one of the big three since it was the first card and was thought to have been damaged by being on top (as the theory goes). But really?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 15, 2013, 05:39:24 PM
Columbo could not have figured this mystery out any better.  I love it!  Talk about your hand being caught in the cookie jar. 

Fabulous detective work!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on May 15, 2013, 05:50:22 PM
The real irony here is that this probably never would have been discovered had he not listed a $67.00 item on Ebay.   $67.00 in greed has probably foiled his plot.  I hope most of the avid Wacky collectors see this and avoid any 1967 series without the die cut.   Kudos to the sleuth!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 15, 2013, 07:26:47 PM
whatever. total bs.

we already know *exactly* why there is a piece cut out of that. they cut up a toppsvault proof sheet.

I see they submitted a Jolly Mean from that sheet for grading too. Doesn't GAI care that it's a modern day cut? Is that worse than trimming?

http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552.htm

(http://www.wackypackages.org/auctionsarchive/diecut_proof_2119169552_files/DSC00284.jpg)

That was an amazing call! What I don't understand is the attraction of a proof over a regular diecut anyway, nevermind its shady history. It even says in the auction that its missing the gum backing. Anyone interested in grading wouldn't be able to enter any of the proofs from the sheet into their registry sets, even if GAI grades them at 9s. I could see cutting up the sheet if it was a production sheet i.e. diecut & gummed, but the original sheet & GAI slabbed cards seem awfully expensive to me as is.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 15, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
Interesting too that they chose to post a sticker that would lead back to this possible connection. If they were really smart they would have listed all the others first, starting with "normal" stickers (e.g. 1st series more commons), then move to 1st series rare, then more rare, and then to some of the die-cuts but even then chose those without the one real clue to point to their deception - the very distinctive cut!

Greed is an amazing thing. And seems to be fairly rampant these days.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 16, 2013, 05:12:26 AM
Bingo. It's fine as long as it's divulged, the problem is when the card is ultimately re-sold it will eventually not be divulged by a greedy seller. PSA refuses to grade sheet cut cards, and as long as they can ascertain that, I'm glad, because I wouldn't want one at any price, and certainly not at the huge premium an original high grade example would bring.

Totally agree. Even if the first seller decides to include all info, there is no guarantee that anyone else in the future would, or even know of it or remember it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 16, 2013, 05:14:01 AM
The real irony here is that this probably never would have been discovered had he not listed a $67.00 item on Ebay.   $67.00 in greed has probably foiled his plot.  I hope most of the avid Wacky collectors see this and avoid any 1967 series without the die cut.   Kudos to the sleuth!

Very true.  Why would he bother to try to sell a die cut with a huge chunk taken out of it?  That cut out part is pretty obvious to anyone who ever saw that uncut sheet.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 16, 2013, 06:01:24 AM
I do think it's worse. it's fraud that's almost undetectable.
At least PSA has some standards and won't grade these fakes.
trimming is deceitful too, but has a better chance of being spotted by collectors, not just grading services, because of the incorrect card size

I look at it a little differently.  If you divulge the fact the you had an uncut sheet cut up, although sheet collectors may frown upon it I think most would agree there's nothing deceptive or dishonest about it.  Is it okay to trim a card down to attain sharp corners if you divulge the information during a sale?  No, it's cheating.  I guess it's better than trimming and not divulging what you did, but it's still cheating and changes the proper spec of the card.  To me if you divulge the fact that you had an uncut sheet cut down (again, assuming it is done properly) it's not cheating.   That's why I think card cutting is worse.
 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 16, 2013, 07:01:32 AM
I look at it a little differently.  If you divulge the fact the you had an uncut sheet cut up, although sheet collectors may frown upon it I think most would agree there's nothing deceptive or dishonest about it.  Is it okay to trim a card down to attain sharp corners if you divulge the information during a sale?  No, it's cheating.  I guess it's better than trimming and not divulging what you did, but it's still cheating and changes the proper spec of the card.  To me if you divulge the fact that you had an uncut sheet cut down (again, assuming it is done properly) it's not cheating.   That's why I think card cutting is worse.
 

I agree that I don't see it as a big deal if you cut up an original topps sheet. Trimming actually changes the dimensions of the card which damages/devalues it, so I think that is definitely cheating.**

The odd thing is, that since it has no gum & isn't diecut, what assurances does the buyer have that it is even a legitimate production piece without the disclosure of the original Topps certificate? I would think a good quality printer (tradesman, not HP) could duplicate the diecuts on regular stock.

** Side note - an interesting fact that relates to coin collecting. I came across the reason the sides of silver coins have rough edges called a readed edge: Back in the day, people used to shave off silver from the edges of coins and pass the coin on after doing so. The readed edge makes it evident that the coin was shaved, so you could tell if you received a substandard coin. Reminded me of card trimming.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 16, 2013, 07:49:27 AM

** Side note - an interesting fact that relates to coin collecting. I came across the reason the sides of silver coins have rough edges called a readed edge: Back in the day, people used to shave off silver from the edges of coins and pass the coin on after doing so. The readed edge makes it evident that the coin was shaved, so you could tell if you received a substandard coin. Reminded me of card trimming.


Thanks for mentioning that – I do a bit of coin collecting and had never heard that!

I’ve read books about cheats, scams, and con-artists, and I've never run across that piece of cool info
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 16, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
I look at it a little differently.  If you divulge the fact the you had an uncut sheet cut up, although sheet collectors may frown upon it I think most would agree there's nothing deceptive or dishonest about it.  Is it okay to trim a card down to attain sharp corners if you divulge the information during a sale?  No, it's cheating.  I guess it's better than trimming and not divulging what you did, but it's still cheating and changes the proper spec of the card.  To me if you divulge the fact that you had an uncut sheet cut down (again, assuming it is done properly) it's not cheating.   That's why I think card cutting is worse.
 

You're entitled to your opinion, but most collectors would not value a sheet cut card equally to a normally produced card. This was part of the hooplah about the Gretzky T206 Honus Wagner baseball card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 16, 2013, 08:42:30 AM
You're entitled to your opinion, but most collectors would not value a sheet cut card equally to a normally produced card. This was part of the hooplah about the Gretzky T206 Honus Wagner baseball card.

But I never said it was equal to a normally produced card, I just said I don't view it as bad as card trimming.  If I viewed a sheet cut card as the same than I wouldn't feel the need to divulge the information during a sale because there would be no reason to.  

I do respect that it is something that should be disclosed and I also see how some sellers could use it as a method to gain higher sell prices if they don't disclose it.

If you're cutting a sheet professionally you are basically using the same exact equipment that Topps' printers would have used 40 years ago, so you are basically doing the exact same thing, just at a later date.  The fact that it is 40 years later and yields perfect corners is why it should be disclosed in a sale.  When you trim a card you are giving it a 2nd cut in addition to the factory cut, with the sole intention of sharp corners.  To me there is a difference there.  One can be done without greed involved, one really can't.

  

    

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 16, 2013, 09:05:11 AM

If you're cutting a sheet professionally you are basically using the same exact equipment that Topps' printers would have used 40 years ago, so you are basically doing the exact same thing, just at a later date.
  


In addition to sharp corners, wouldn’t someone today be able to cut a sheet and create perfectly centered stickers – better than the machines? Albeit with some painstaking effort. 

My sense of symmetry isn’t sufficient and my eyes couldn’t do it. I got bifocals recently!   

(A minor point that doesn't add much to the discussion, but thought I'd mention centering)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 16, 2013, 09:08:43 AM

In addition to sharp corners, wouldn’t someone today be able to cut a sheet and create perfectly centered stickers – better than the machines? Albeit with some painstaking effort. 

My sense of symmetry isn’t sufficient and my eyes couldn’t do it. I got bifocals recently!   

(A minor point that doesn't add much to the discussion, but thought I'd mention centering)


Theoretically you could but only on isolated titles.  The sheets have crop marks on them indicating where the cuts should be made for proper centering.  If there's a title on the sheet (like I think 8-Lives has been mentioned) that doesn't result in good centering when cut properly, you could cut it so that one was centered but all of the others would be out of whack.
 
 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 16, 2013, 04:51:14 PM
most collectors would not value a sheet cut card equally to a normally produced card
Maybe I'm just being dense, but I don't understand the distinction. Didn't a "normally produced card" get cut from a sheet just like the one that the "sheet cut card" came from? Does it matter who cut it from the sheet, assuming both are equally professionally done?

Note: I posted this before I read Rob's response, so I get the "artificially better condition" aspect of the more recent cut. Would still like to hear any other aspects anyone has, though...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Monsterettes on May 16, 2013, 06:00:12 PM
I'm not a sheet collector, but it seems a terrible shame to me to cut up an item like that.  How many of these could there be out there?  If there are several, I know everyone will let me know.  ;)  Unless it isn't rare, feels like a desecration to undo a piece of wacky history.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 16, 2013, 06:43:13 PM
Maybe I'm just being dense, but I don't understand the distinction. Didn't a "normally produced card" get cut from a sheet just like the one that the "sheet cut card" came from? Does it matter who cut it from the sheet, assuming both are equally professionally done?

Note: I posted this before I read Rob's response, so I get the "artificially better condition" aspect of the more recent cut. Would still like to hear any other aspects anyone has, though...
a modern cut card should not be grade-able. That they can be (whereas a trimmed card can't) is a flaw in the grading system that's exploitable.
getting a high grade on one of these is absolutely and fundamentally meaningless. And the only reason it is done is greed.
The sole purpose of grading services is to tell you just how pointy those corners are and to cast in stone that the object is a commodity that other collectors value highly.
These cards have no age.
They were never packed.
They were never distributed.
They are not a commodity of equal value.
They are fakes.
Frauds.
Lies.
They are a violation of all that is holy to collectors and the cutter, submitter and graders should all be cast into the fourth circle of hell.

or something like that.  ;)

I have zero faith that someone who cut up a sheet would ever disclose that fact, and is only intent on flipping them for big $$$.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 17, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
a modern cut card should not be grade-able. That they can be (whereas a trimmed card can't) is a flaw in the grading system that's exploitable.
These cards have no age.
They were never packed.
They were never distributed.
They are not a commodity of equal value.
They are fakes.
Frauds.
Lies.
They are a violation of all that is holy to collectors and the cutter, submitter and graders should all be cast into the fourth circle of hell.

or something like that.  ;)

I have zero faith that someone who cut up a sheet would ever disclose that fact, and is only intent on flipping them for big $$$.

I agree.  part of the thrill of having a grade 10 or 9 card from the "real" original run is that is was actually cut correctly by Topss, distributed in a pack with gum, opened by a dumb kid, and survived all these years in that perfect condition.  I would feel sort of cheated by having a card cut 40 years and then dropped in my lap for a large sum of cash.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 17, 2013, 08:01:29 PM
I agree.  part of the thrill of having a grade 10 or 9 card from the "real" original run is that is was actually cut correctly by Topss, distributed in a pack with gum, opened by a dumb kid, and survived all these years in that perfect condition.  I would feel sort of cheated by having a card cut 40 years and then dropped in my lap for a large sum of cash.

Precisely. Cutting them fresh from a sheet with new/different/possibly better equipment and never distributing them means they are from an entirely different population of cards.

It pollutes the pool of cards obtained normally from the wild.


It's really a type of counterfeit. As in: an imitation intended to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 17, 2013, 09:12:42 PM
I find this discussion interesting and not black and white, like I prefer things to be. But they never are, are they...
 
In my opinion, to cut down an original sheet 40 years later is not as blatant as an outright counterfeit.

I’ve been thinking of some analogies that have similarities.

If someone had gold planchet (non-struck coin) made in 1850 and also the original die that was used to manufacture the 1850 gold double eagle, and they made a coin today using the original planchet and the original die, I believe coin collectors would find that coin to be a complete fraud.

But if someone found a mint sheet of 1928 $2 bills in the US Treasury Vault, and cut it up today, I think many collectors would have a problem with it, to some degree, but probably not call it a counterfeit, since the sheet of bills was made in 1928.

The analogy is not perfect, but close.

For example, I’m not sure trading card collectors and coin collectors have the same expectation, as far as the items being released to the public. Also, since coin collectors downgrade cleaned and polished coins, they might balk at the cut up bills more than I assume, since the original material was significantly altered.
 
OK, that's my analysis paralysis, for the moment         :^)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 18, 2013, 05:07:42 AM
I find this discussion interesting and not black and white, like I prefer things to be. But they never are, are they...
 
In my opinion, to cut down an original sheet 40 years later is not as blatant as an outright counterfeit.

I’ve been thinking of some analogies that have similarities.

If someone had gold planchet (non-struck coin) made in 1850 and also the original die that was used to manufacture the 1850 gold double eagle, and they made a coin today using the original planchet and the original die, I believe coin collectors would find that coin to be a complete fraud.

But if someone found a mint sheet of 1928 $2 bills in the US Treasury Vault, and cut it up today, I think many collectors would have a problem with it, to some degree, but probably not call it a counterfeit, since the sheet of bills was made in 1928.

The analogy is not perfect, but close.

For example, I’m not sure trading card collectors and coin collectors have the same expectation, as far as the items being released to the public. Also, since coin collectors downgrade cleaned and polished coins, they might balk at the cut up bills more than I assume, since the original material was significantly altered.
 
OK, that's my analysis paralysis, for the moment         :^)


Your analogy is correct because full sheets of national bank notes are found and cut up and sold.  However those same sheets were designed to be cut up by the cashiers at the bank, we as this full sheet was designed to be cut up by the manufacture only.  There in itself is the fine line.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 18, 2013, 06:16:10 AM
I find this discussion interesting and not black and white, like I prefer things to be. But they never are, are they...
 
In my opinion, to cut down an original sheet 40 years later is not as blatant as an outright counterfeit.

I’ve been thinking of some analogies that have similarities.

If someone had gold planchet (non-struck coin) made in 1850 and also the original die that was used to manufacture the 1850 gold double eagle, and they made a coin today using the original planchet and the original die, I believe coin collectors would find that coin to be a complete fraud.

But if someone found a mint sheet of 1928 $2 bills in the US Treasury Vault, and cut it up today, I think many collectors would have a problem with it, to some degree, but probably not call it a counterfeit, since the sheet of bills was made in 1928.

The analogy is not perfect, but close.

For example, I’m not sure trading card collectors and coin collectors have the same expectation, as far as the items being released to the public. Also, since coin collectors downgrade cleaned and polished coins, they might balk at the cut up bills more than I assume, since the original material was significantly altered.
 
OK, that's my analysis paralysis, for the moment         :^)



Isn't the coin/stamp collecting analogy of this the "uncirculated" item, if this sheet was printed at the same time as ones that were cut, packaged and distributed? I know there is also a distinction between "uncirculated" and "uncirculated condition" (meaning mint but that were distributed). I think the coin/stamp collectors, who are very much the purists, would be fine with these being sold, just as long as they were marked as such (uncirculated).  I only collect dinosaur stamps in a very pedestrian sense, so please correct me if there is a finer point here that I am not aware of.

I think it boils down to what you are looking for in your collection. If you are looking for the best example (in terms of condition) of the actual printed product, these cut from the sheet may be terrific for you. If your emphasis is on finding the best examples of actual circulated items, it is not. There are currency collectors that stay away from uncirculated items for some of the very same reasons Pat gave.   I agree with Elizabeth that is is a shame to cut up such an item. I don't, however, think its correct to call then obominations, frauds, or conterfeits. It seems close though, when someone is knowingly trying to pass them off as something other than what they actually are, whether through information omission, or deceiptive description. The item itself is not th freud, but the seller might be.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 20, 2013, 11:19:33 AM

Isn't the coin/stamp collecting analogy of this the "uncirculated" item, if this sheet was printed at the same time as ones that were cut, packaged and distributed? I know there is also a distinction between "uncirculated" and "uncirculated condition" (meaning mint but that were distributed). I think the coin/stamp collectors, who are very much the purists, would be fine with these being sold, just as long as they were marked as such (uncirculated).  I only collect dinosaur stamps in a very pedestrian sense, so please correct me if there is a finer point here that I am not aware of.


Yes, "uncirculated” vs. “circulated” is an important distinction I did not consider – very good point.

You are a pedestrian collector of dinosaur stamps, lol, that's cool.

I think collecting stamps with a theme is a great way to go – also one fun way to get kids involved in collecting stamps and coins. I’ve never been able to come up with a specific theme to collect, and collect a bit of everything. I still have a neat set of lenticular automobile stamps from Bhutan that I got at a stamp show as a kid, in the mid 70’s, when I went with my Dad.   

I was in a coin and stamp store last weekend and asked the owner if he had any coins or stamps that showed an image of Buddha (I’ve been reading Pema Chodron and Thich Nhat Hanh recently). He looked at me kind of funny and handed me one of those giant five pound 10 inch thick books. I ended up buying a nice silver 1922 peace dollar and a few vintage non-sports wax packs such as Mad Covers and GPK.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 20, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
Yes, "uncirculated” vs. “circulated” is an important distinction I did not consider – very good point.

You are a pedestrian collector of dinosaur stamps, lol, that's cool.

I think collecting stamps with a theme is a great way to go – also one fun way to get kids involved in collecting stamps and coins. I’ve never been able to come up with a specific theme to collect, and collect a bit of everything. I still have a neat set of lenticular automobile stamps from Bhutan that I got at a stamp show as a kid, in the mid 70’s, when I went with my Dad.   

I was in a coin and stamp store last weekend and asked the owner if he had any coins or stamps that showed an image of Buddha (I’ve been reading Pema Chodron and Thich Nhat Hanh recently). He looked at me kind of funny and handed me one of those giant five pound 10 inch thick books. I ended up buying a nice silver 1922 peace dollar and a few vintage non-sports wax packs such as Mad Covers and GPK.


We used to have a fantastic store here that sold trading cards, stamps, coins and comics.  I miss that store  :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Alexeirex on May 20, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
In my years of stamp collecting I have seen items passed off as miscut postcards and later found out that the post office sold these in sheets and these 'errors' were just deliberately cut in crazy ways to look like printing mistakes. Though actual miscuts do happen at the post office and are worth a premium - anyway, what that has in common with the wacky sheet in questionis that it is a 'man-made' 'variation' and not a machine made mistake. Furthermore, this was a proof sheet, was it not? And not meant to be distributed as a regular sticker and one can tell by the lack of die-cuts that it is not a regular item. A description can be added that deceptively states - 'rare as no die cut was EVER applied!!' - so, it is a real item(proof) that is passed as a regularly issued card with a 'rare' mistake!

If I remember my stamp terms - 'counterfeit' - made to defraud the government, as in counterfit first class stamps.
'Fake' - An item changed or altered to deceive the collector into thinking it is something else, usually something else that is more
valuable or rare.
'Fantasy' - An item changed or created to look like a real item that never existed in the first place.
Theres one other term but I can't remember it at the end of a busy business day!
Alex

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 20, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
Great post Alex.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 24, 2013, 06:27:10 AM
Does a bite being taken out of a sticker keep it from NM+?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 24, 2013, 06:44:17 AM
Does a bite being taken out of a sticker keep it from NM+?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883)
It's just a flesh wound ( said in my best Monty Python voice)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 24, 2013, 06:57:13 AM
It's just a flesh wound ( said in my best Monty Python voice)

It got better.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 24, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
Does a bite being taken out of a sticker keep it from NM+?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-series-Mare-NM-1975-/261220178051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd1ef9883)

HaHa, I think it's a piece of his carpet over the card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 24, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
HaHa, I think it's a piece of his carpet over the card.

lol - yep! - I've seen this happen before - funny, the background looked like a marble counter at first but it's definitely carpet - had to look twice!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 24, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
HaHa, I think it's a piece of his carpet over the card.

Ah, I see it now. The sad part is it was totally believable that a seller would describe it as NM+ if a chunk was missing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 24, 2013, 07:43:36 PM
HaHa, I think it's a piece of his carpet over the card.
Yer corner's off!

No, it isn't!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 28, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
I recently purchased some wacky items and paid immediately.  Eight days later the seller listed the package as being sent with tracking information.  It has now been 5 days later and the tracking information has not been updated to even say that it was accepted into a sort facility.  No information at all. 

Am I nuts or is it reasonable to ask the seller what is going on at this point?

This is one of the more recognizable sellers on ebay for wackys so I am a bit surprised by the long delivery time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 28, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
I recently purchased some wacky items and paid immediately.  Eight days later the seller listed the package as being sent with tracking information.  It has now been 5 days later and the tracking information has not been updated to even say that it was accepted into a sort facility.  No information at all. 

Am I nuts or is it reasonable to ask the seller what is going on at this point?

This is one of the more recognizable sellers on ebay for wackys so I am a bit surprised by the long delivery time.

If the tracking only says "accepted at the local post office", it's possible the post office overlooked it and it's still sitting
there. I would definitely ask the seller for assistance, he would be in a better position to check on the local PO.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 28, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
Thanks for the information Paul Maul.  I did contact the seller and I was told that it was mistakenly mixed with other items and not mailed when intended.  I always like to give the benefit of the doubt to the seller, but only if they communicate with me.  I got an immediate reply, so I will wait patiently.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 30, 2013, 09:35:03 PM
Here is an interesting title for an auction.  Why is it hard to find all three of these?


http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MakeBid&item=190847825637&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&fromPage=2047675&fb=2

Perhaps they meant, "Hard to find all 3 at this price."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on May 31, 2013, 06:27:14 AM
Here is an interesting title for an auction.  Why is it hard to find all three of these?


http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MakeBid&item=190847825637&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&fromPage=2047675&fb=2

Perhaps they meant, "Hard to find all 3 at this price."

He's saying that 'cause there all REPRINTS from series 16 - tryin to catch a newbie...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Monsterettes on June 01, 2013, 07:11:25 PM
Nice sketch, but whaaaaa! $1,575.00!  You gotta be kiddin' me.   :o  :o  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Swiss-Mess-Pig-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Pat-Barrett-Sketch-/310674662753
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on June 01, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Nice sketch, but whaaaaa! $1,575.00!  You gotta be kiddin' me.   :o  :o  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Swiss-Mess-Pig-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Pat-Barrett-Sketch-/310674662753


I love how the new stuff sells for more than high grade vintage items. :^) Oh well, jeffcaff is laughing to the bank. :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 01, 2013, 07:45:07 PM
Nice sketch, but whaaaaa! $1,575.00!  You gotta be kiddin' me.   :o  :o  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Swiss-Mess-Pig-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Pat-Barrett-Sketch-/310674662753

something tells me this is going to fall through and it'll probably be re-listed within the week. nobody in their right mind would actually pay that.
I don't understand that bidding either, are the 3 bids from a***p @ $1550 some sort of safety net? just strange all the way around.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 01, 2013, 07:46:13 PM
Nice sketch, but whaaaaa! $1,575.00!  You gotta be kiddin' me.   :o  :o  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Swiss-Mess-Pig-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Pat-Barrett-Sketch-/310674662753


I love Pat's work (I pulled two of his Halloween sketches this last time 'round), but holy crap that's a bit high methinks!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 01, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
Nice sketch, but whaaaaa! $1,575.00!  You gotta be kiddin' me.   :o  :o  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Swiss-Mess-Pig-OLDS4-Old-School-4-Pat-Barrett-Sketch-/310674662753


I know both bidders and this is getting out of hand. I don't know what the deal is but I wish it was my auction..LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on June 01, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
something tells me this is going to fall through and it'll probably be re-listed within the week. nobody in their right mind would actually pay that.
I don't understand that bidding either, are the 3 bids from a***p @ $1550 some sort of safety net? just strange all the way around.


It's funny that the winning bidder had previously retracted his bid of $15. Then apparently said screw it, let's go with $1575.00
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 01, 2013, 09:54:37 PM
I know both bidders and this is getting out of hand. I don't know what the deal is but I wish it was my auction..LOL

If you know both of these two, can you tell us one thing?  Are they certifiably nuts?  Seriously!  Are these two buyers just in a major pissing contest right now?  Did one of them outbid the other on another item and they are now going to battle on every auction?  They should use there money to hire a therapist.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 01, 2013, 10:09:42 PM
I know both bidders and this is getting out of hand. I don't know what the deal is but I wish it was my auction..LOL

Yikes!!  I could believe that one person goofed and left out a decimal point, but two of them on the same auction?  You know them?  Do you think they MEANT to bid that high?  I thought the days of 4 figure sketch card prices were long gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 01, 2013, 11:46:09 PM
If you know both of these two, can you tell us one thing?  Are they certifiably nuts?  Seriously!  Are these two buyers just in a major pissing contest right now?  Did one of them outbid the other on another item and they are now going to battle on every auction?  They should use there money to hire a therapist.

Hey Madmike,
You nailed it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 01, 2013, 11:59:48 PM

It's funny that the winning bidder had previously retracted his bid of $15. Then apparently said screw it, let's go with $1575.00

And some collectors think that sketches have no value? This just showed that certain sketches are very valuable. I'm not saying this because I love the sketches but its reality. Proof!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 02, 2013, 07:37:26 AM
And some collectors think that sketches have no value? This just showed that certain sketches are very valuable. I'm not saying this because I love the sketches but its reality. Proof!
I don't think this is any indication at all of the value of the sketch.
if this one was re-sold today, it couldn't get even a tenth of that sale price
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 02, 2013, 08:08:05 AM
I don't think this is any indication at all of the value of the sketch.
if this one was re-sold today, it couldn't get even a tenth of that sale price

Agreed.  Probably a lot less than a tenth.  Jeff must feel like he hit the lottery!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 02, 2013, 02:45:34 PM
Agreed.  Probably a lot less than a tenth.  Jeff must feel like he hit the lottery!

At best it would go for $30-$35, maybe.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Shrunken Donuts on June 07, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=150956226873

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 10, 2013, 04:43:10 PM
I was just noticing that I haven't read any posts from Bandaches in quite a while.  Is he still around?  Do we need to send out the search party?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 10, 2013, 08:38:11 PM
I was just noticing that I haven't read any posts from Bandaches in quite a while.  Is he still around?  Do we need to send out the search party?
I've noticed this, too. He hasn't logged on here in a couple months. I'd bet he's just involved with other things in life, is all. No panic button yet.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on June 11, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
I've noticed this, too. He hasn't logged on here in a couple months. I'd bet he's just involved with other things in life, is all. No panic button yet.

I was also noticing that Jason hasn't had any new content on his website for some time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 14, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
We see people being taken all the time with Crazy prices...but 14?


at that price i guess i gotta go dumpster diving for the 100's i threw out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-PROMO-CARD-FROM-PACK-/300462369126?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f4f3e966#ht_1913wt_758
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 15, 2013, 09:15:15 PM
Why is this Andy Wahol art? We're do these people come up with this crap?
eBay auction: #140994168060
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 16, 2013, 01:38:47 AM
Why is this Andy Wahol art? We're do these people come up with this crap?
eBay auction: #140994168060

The only possible connection I see is that CAMPY is, of course, a Campbell's Soup parody and Andy Warhol did the op-art  paintings of Campbell cans. Like, you... I don't see how this makes the Wacky Packages title Andy Warhol like.

(http://s24.postimg.org/7ganr35sh/Andy_Warhol_sopa_4.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7ganr35sh/)


But, Campbell's does make a Beans and Bacon soup so you can tie it to Kevin Bacon in three degrees of separation!!!  :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 16, 2013, 09:09:06 AM
Why is this Andy Wahol art? We're do these people come up with this crap?
eBay auction: #140994168060

Andy Warhol art for $3.00!  What a bargain.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 05, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
Anybody else smell fish?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-Lot-of-400-Stickers-/121134707267?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3430f243#ht_368wt_948
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on July 06, 2013, 05:26:38 AM
Has anyone ever had a seller go to the trouble of wrapping a priority mail box in paper and use a lot of bubble wrap to mail a sticker, but not bother with a penny sleeve or top loader?  No surprise to me, wrapping a single loose sticker in bubble wrap does result in a less than mint sticker.........  Fortunately a week in a big cookbook seems to have undone the damage, but, come on!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on July 06, 2013, 05:38:06 AM
Has anyone ever had a seller go to the trouble of wrapping a priority mail box in paper and use a lot of bubble wrap to mail a sticker, but not bother with a penny sleeve or top loader?  No surprise to me, wrapping a single loose sticker in bubble wrap does result in a less than mint sticker.........  Fortunately a week in a big cookbook seems to have undone the damage, but, come on!!
NAME  NAMES                    JUST KIDDING
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on July 06, 2013, 05:47:58 AM
NAME  NAMES                    JUST KIDDING

No one here, it was an ebay seller.  What was funny was I was so impressed by the packaging until I finally got to the the sticker encircled in the middle of the bubble wrap.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on July 06, 2013, 05:54:36 AM
No one here, it was an ebay seller.  What was funny was I was so impressed by the packaging until I finally got to the the sticker encircled in the middle of the bubble wrap.
Ted Jeffery would always way over package even a single card
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 07, 2013, 08:22:04 AM
eBay auction: #251299120898


Great, pre-owned condition, lol....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on July 07, 2013, 08:39:32 AM
Has anyone ever had a seller go to the trouble of wrapping a priority mail box in paper and use a lot of bubble wrap to mail a sticker, but not bother with a penny sleeve or top loader?  No surprise to me, wrapping a single loose sticker in bubble wrap does result in a less than mint sticker.........  Fortunately a week in a big cookbook seems to have undone the damage, but, come on!!
I can't recall experiencing that scenario, but I did just receive a sketch card bought off eBay that was placed in a penny sleeve and toploader. However, the top wasn't taped and the card slid out a bit, with resulting bend to a corner. Like yours, it seems fixable. But it reinforced to me the need to tape the top of the toploader!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 07, 2013, 09:05:11 AM
I can't recall experiencing that scenario, but I did just receive a sketch card bought off eBay that was placed in a penny sleeve and toploader. However, the top wasn't taped and the card slid out a bit, with resulting bend to a corner. Like yours, it seems fixable. But it reinforced to me the need to tape the top of the toploader!

Best to always tape a piece of paper, or a post-it, over the toploader opening, and then tape that piece of paper down on both sides of the toploader.  Directly taping the opening of the toploader risks that the top of the sticker or card will come into direct contact with the tape.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 07, 2013, 09:08:48 AM
Best to always tape a piece of paper, or a post-it, over the toploader opening, and then tape that piece of paper down on both sides of the toploader.  Directly taping the opening of the toploader risks that the top of the sticker or card will come into direct contact with the tape.

I usually put the card in a penny sleeve and put the penny sleeve upside down in the toploader before taping the top shut.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 07, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
Best to always tape a piece of paper, or a post-it, over the toploader opening, and then tape that piece of paper down on both sides of the toploader.  Directly taping the opening of the toploader risks that the top of the sticker or card will come into direct contact with the tape.

Or just put the top loader into a sealable team bag.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on July 07, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
I usually put the card in a penny sleeve and put the penny sleeve upside down in the toploader before taping the top shut.

That sounds like a good method, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 07, 2013, 10:04:20 AM
That sounds like a good method, thanks for sharing!

Good methods, but it's a tad bit of preaching to the choir.  Need to get the message to those bubble-wrap-head packers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 19, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
This is classic:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Original-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Liptorn-Lava-Soup-white-back-/321168030793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac71b3c49 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Original-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Liptorn-Lava-Soup-white-back-/321168030793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac71b3c49)

She seems sincere, but very confused!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on July 20, 2013, 05:26:59 AM
This is classic:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Original-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Liptorn-Lava-Soup-white-back-/321168030793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac71b3c49 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Original-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Liptorn-Lava-Soup-white-back-/321168030793?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac71b3c49)

She seems sincere, but very confused!

I have a whole set of 13th Series white backs that have the yellowed backs "due to age" ~ in fact they are so old, they've turned tan!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 20, 2013, 09:44:03 AM
I have a whole set of 13th Series white backs that have the yellowed backs "due to age" ~ in fact they are so old, they've turned tan!
Dang! My 3rd series did the same thing!! What are the odds?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on July 20, 2013, 05:45:40 PM
I can't recall experiencing that scenario, but I did just receive a sketch card bought off eBay that was placed in a penny sleeve and toploader. However, the top wasn't taped and the card slid out a bit, with resulting bend to a corner. Like yours, it seems fixable. But it reinforced to me the need to tape the top of the toploader!

I had a full color sketch sent without any sleeve at all!
Just loose in a envelope sliding around and got bent.
And it was a seller/artist on here...but i won't say names  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on July 21, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
Come on, tell us who it was. >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 21, 2013, 12:41:45 PM
Come on, tell us who it was. >:D

We'll tar and feather him!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on July 30, 2013, 09:28:32 AM

I thought everyone in Pennsylvania knows how much Wackys are worth

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Broomo-Seltzer-6th-Series-/221258376171?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338406e3eb
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 30, 2013, 12:21:23 PM
I thought everyone in Pennsylvania knows how much Wackys are worth

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Broomo-Seltzer-6th-Series-/221258376171?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338406e3eb



Yikers... for the seller's sake I hope people don't pay attention to the "People who viewed this item also viewed":

eBay auction: #380452688735

$18 less for what appears to be a nice condition card. And,  the photo is much clearer so you can actually see what you would be getting.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on July 30, 2013, 12:50:24 PM
That photo looks mighty familiar! ;)

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/6th_series/broomoseltzer_small_smaller_images.html
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 30, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
That photo looks mighty familiar! ;)

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/6th_series/broomoseltzer_small_smaller_images.html

What are you, crazy!?! What with your putting out clear and concisely listed items at fair prices... what are you trying to pull?  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 05, 2013, 05:57:37 PM
Okay - so who here got this one shut down?

eBay auction: #251315532622
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 05, 2013, 06:51:59 PM
Okay - so who here got this one shut down?

eBay auction: #251315532622
It's now for sale for 1800.00
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 06, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
It's now for sale for 1800.00

Wow, it went from way underpriced to way overpriced.  for my money, this is a $750 to $800 full box.  Now if they were Blue packs, that would be a different story!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 06, 2013, 06:43:39 PM
Is this overpriced, or is this special set valued at more than 20K?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Topps-2nd-Ser-Wacky-Packages-Signature-Series-SET-/120581824764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c133ca0fc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 06, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
Is this overpriced, or is this special set valued at more than 20K?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Topps-2nd-Ser-Wacky-Packages-Signature-Series-SET-/120581824764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c133ca0fc
ugh. there's that whole #1 of X thing hyped and trumped-up beyond belief as if it actually means something
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 06, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
ugh. there's that whole #1 of X thing hyped and trumped-up beyond belief as if it actually means something

I totally agree. I have enough artist sigs...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 07, 2013, 04:47:33 AM
Wow, it went from way underpriced to way overpriced.  for my money, this is a $750 to $800 full box.  Now if they were Blue packs, that would be a different story!
Someone who had a little information got into his ear
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on August 07, 2013, 06:02:40 AM
Is this overpriced, or is this special set valued at more than 20K?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Topps-2nd-Ser-Wacky-Packages-Signature-Series-SET-/120581824764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c133ca0fc

With that kind of money, I'd prefer a PSA 8/9 run of diecuts, wacky ads and 1st to 16th - the main reason most of us are here in the first place! I think the price reflects the times (2005) pre-sketch card craze all the way thru ans10 bloat. In 2005 the wacky craze had just resumed, and no one knew how much more was to come. In 2010/2011 a decent color sketch would fetch $1500. I think that bubble has long since burst. Call me super skeptical, but I think those would go for between $25 to $75 ea if auctioned individually.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 07, 2013, 07:12:40 AM
With that kind of money, I'd prefer a PSA 8/9 run of diecuts, wacky ads and 1st to 16th - the main reason most of us are here in the first place! I think the price reflects the times (2005) pre-sketch card craze all the way thru ans10 bloat. In 2005 the wacky craze had just resumed, and no one knew how much more was to come. In 2010/2011 a decent color sketch would fetch $1500. I think that bubble has long since burst. Call me super skeptical, but I think those would go for between $25 to $75 ea if auctioned individually.

It won't sell. Not at the asking price. All of his auctions are over inflated. I wouldn't want it even at $100 for the whole set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on August 07, 2013, 10:15:09 AM
The auction for that particular set has been on Ebay for a few years now. Should tell you something. Actually a few things.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 07, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Topps-2nd-Ser-Wacky-Packages-Signature-Series-SET-/120581824764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c133ca0fc
They all have writing on them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on August 07, 2013, 02:51:27 PM
 :]
They all have writing on them.

 :] :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on August 16, 2013, 05:35:48 PM
Hurry, these are 'very rare'...and there's only 3 available (!!) lol...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/200953628152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec9c505f8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on August 17, 2013, 05:26:15 AM
Hurry, these are 'very rare'...and there's only 3 available (!!) lol...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/200953628152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec9c505f8

yes, it's VERY RARE to see a single 91 sticker listed on EBAY
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 01, 2013, 08:31:46 AM
$100 for a creased sliver of a common '79 swill sheet. if it was actually a '73 sheet, someone might bite though.

eBay auction: #131007878634
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 02, 2013, 03:15:58 PM
Think I'm gonna make me an 8th series proof set
eBay auction: #350889529332
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 02, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
Think I'm gonna make me an 8th series proof set
eBay auction: #350889529332

And graded at EX+ to boot!!  Wow!!  I guess my set must be MINT ++++ then!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on October 02, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
And graded at EX+ to boot!!  Wow!!  I guess my set must be MINT ++++ then!

I'm thinking of buying this set. That Scorch N/C will look sweet next to my Scoot N/C!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 06, 2013, 03:45:59 PM
$60 for a common ANS11 base card.  Sure....  And not even free shipping

eBay auction: #300982978810
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 06, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
$60 for a common ANS11 base card.  Sure....  And not even free shipping

eBay auction: #300982978810

They think because its a checklist that its C variation..HaHa
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 10, 2013, 02:54:44 PM
OK, I understand that there are at least 4 OS display boxes and a bunch of stickers here, but 800 smack-a-roonies? Really?

eBay auction: #360756623025
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on October 10, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
OK, I understand that there are at least 4 OS display boxes and a bunch of stickers here, but 800 smack-a-roonies? Really?

eBay auction: #360756623025

Damn.  That's a lot of money for maybe $300 worth of boxes and a "mystery" pile of relatively common stickers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on October 10, 2013, 03:48:10 PM
Damn.  That's a lot of money for maybe $300 worth of boxes and a "mystery" pile of relatively common stickers.

There are earlier stickers there, and I see Run Tony.  Maybe someone's taking a chance on ludlows, or some Bum Chex and Choke Wagons?  There also look to be a lot of red wrappers - I hope they end up flooding the market so I can finally get one!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 10, 2013, 04:50:59 PM
Nice! Didn't see that one. Doubt I would have gone that high on a bid though. But that does look like a really nice pristine set of wackys. Probably bought and immediately put in those boxes . Lots of high grade cards - and they're probably all from single sheets, matching up to each other well. 5 nice boxes: 2,3,4,5,6. Couple of dozen wrappers at least?

Although that 4th box has one torn corner, Dave is on the hunt for that one. Dave, was that you?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 10, 2013, 05:11:42 PM
Although that 4th box has one torn corner, Dave is on the hunt for that one. Dave, was that you?
I bid on it and lost, of course. If I had won, I was likely gonna offer the 4th box to Dave, if it was nice enough, as I know he needs it. Just went too high for my blood. Thought I had a shot, though...watched it jump up at the end and was quite surprised at the final number.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 10, 2013, 06:24:25 PM
This is a tough one. I would be really reluctant because of the way he took pics. They look like they are all stuffed in a drawer. I know they could be nice but maybe not so much after he put them in the drawer for pics. This person obviously doesn't know/care about them because of the way they are handled. You don't know if they scooped them up and shoved them back in the box or not. Best to walk away.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 10, 2013, 06:55:45 PM
I never saw this auction. I check eBay religiously yet I alway miss stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on October 11, 2013, 04:14:24 AM
Take a look at the description of this auction and take note of the grades that this seller assigns to the cards.  It's a CLASSIC example of someone over-grading their own cards.  In this case, the guy is totally nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Pack-Series-1-Near-Complete-ALL-RARES-WOW-/121190864440 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Pack-Series-1-Near-Complete-ALL-RARES-WOW-/121190864440)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 11, 2013, 03:22:10 PM
It's a CLASSIC example of someone over-grading their own cards.  In this case, the guy is totally nuts.
They obviously know nothing of how to grade a card...which they somewhat admit. I only looked closely at a few of them, but I'd say his numerical result for most cards is at least 2 points too high, prob more in some cases.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 15, 2013, 08:28:38 AM
eBay auction: #111190220934

Some people seem to think a card being graded by PSA enhances the value regardless of grade. May be the case for a 1952 Mickey Mantle, but not for wackys. This set is missing Mutts, and is probably worth about $250, just like it would be ungraded.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on October 15, 2013, 08:41:58 AM
eBay auction: #111190220934

Some people seem to think a card being graded by PSA enhances the value regardless of grade. May be the case for a 1952 Mickey Mantle, but not for wackys. This set is missing Mutts, and is probably worth about $250, just like it would be ungraded.

LOL, if the person caught a PSA grading special for $5 a card, that's less than $150 for the 29 cards to be graded.  How does one go from a $200 (IMHO) near set to $3500?  I think I'll send the seller an email and ask if he wants my keeper PSA 1st series set for $3500...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 15, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
I'm not a fan of slabbing wackys.  But I know if I had my 1st set it would grade at a minimum of 8 with some 9's and maybe even a couple tens in there.  I am happy to have them in my ultrapro pages where they have been since 1995.  They look the same as the day I got them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on October 15, 2013, 09:13:44 AM
I'm not a fan of slabbing wackys.  But I know if I had my 1st set it would grade at a minimum of 8 with some 9's and maybe even a couple tens in there.  I am happy to have them in my ultrapro pages where they have been since 1995.  They look the same as the day I got them.

You should post some scans of those beauties.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 15, 2013, 09:48:17 AM
I can post some scans... 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 31, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
Who's going to beat me to the savings on this one?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-POSTCARD-PCM3-FLABBEN-BELLY-MINI-POST-CARD-BONUS-/380750010525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a678189d#ht_5264wt_893


Classic Clint, you crack me up sometimes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 31, 2013, 06:22:04 PM
Who's going to beat me to the savings on this one?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-POSTCARD-PCM3-FLABBEN-BELLY-MINI-POST-CARD-BONUS-/380750010525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a678189d#ht_5264wt_893


Classic Clint, you crack me up sometimes.

Its 10% off :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 31, 2013, 06:40:03 PM
Its 10% off :^)

There in lyes the savings!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on October 31, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
A very rare no copyright indeed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Wacky-Packages-Blunder-Bread-No-Copyright-RARE-/131035944188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8259d4fc#ht_118wt_1267
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on November 01, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
Wow!  I just checked through my 1979 and 1980 Wacky Packages and I have about 200 of these rare no copyright stickers.    I am only asking $1.00 each for them.  What a deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on November 01, 2013, 08:46:42 AM
lol! I have some even more rare variations with no sticker I would be willing to part with for under $1K each.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 01, 2013, 01:01:53 PM
A very rare no copyright indeed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Wacky-Packages-Blunder-Bread-No-Copyright-RARE-/131035944188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8259d4fc#ht_118wt_1267

I like how it's numbered ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 01, 2013, 01:10:26 PM
I like how it's numbered ;D

Yeah, what font is that in... Sans Serif Smudge,  Times New Roman Blotch or Arial Bleeech?   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on November 01, 2013, 02:22:44 PM
Yeah, what font is that in... Sans Serif Smudge,  Times New Roman Blotch or Arial Bleeech?   
I think it's Dumseller Splotch.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 14, 2013, 01:12:26 AM
I will NEVER for the life of me figure this shit out.
If it doesnt sell the first time, charge more the next. FMR

1st
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2011-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-2nd-Series-24-Pack-Sealed-Box-WITH-SKETCH-/171190363352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27dbbda4d8#ht_63wt_940

2nd
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181281656214#ht_63wt_874
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 14, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
I will NEVER for the life of me figure this shit out.
If it doesnt sell the first time, charge more the next. FMR

1st
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2011-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-2nd-Series-24-Pack-Sealed-Box-WITH-SKETCH-/171190363352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27dbbda4d8#ht_63wt_940

2nd
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181281656214#ht_63wt_874

I suppose the (bizarre) thinking on the seller's part could be.....there's someone out there who's on the fence about buying.....and if the price keeps getting raised with no competition from other sellers then the potential buyer will think they'll better finally buy/bid before the price goes up again.....?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 14, 2013, 10:53:37 PM
I suppose the (bizarre) thinking on the seller's part could be.....there's someone out there who's on the fence about buying.....and if the price keeps getting raised with no competition from other sellers then the potential buyer will think they'll better finally buy/bid before the price goes up again.....?

I think its just clueless sellers. There are so many. Their tactics make no sense. Clint will post stuff for years and never drop his price. If something doesn't sell in 30 days I'm pretty much giving up on my price but stuff for a year or multiple years?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 28, 2013, 02:50:50 PM
OK, I think i need some clarification. I thought that these were made in equal amounts. Is the "no copyright" more rare? Scot? perhaps you may know a little more about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-1977-Rare-16th-Series-SCOOT-PSA-9-NO-COPYRIGHT-/191011736355?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c792fcb23#ht_510wt_882
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 28, 2013, 04:37:18 PM
Is the [Scoot] "no copyright" more rare?
Absolutely. However, not as rare as this seller is making it out to be. If I recall properly, no copy Scoots were printed early in the run (4 per full sheet with and 4 per full sheet without). This was corrected fairly early on (about halfway thru), with all 8 Scoots having the copyright on the final sheet.

I remember paying about $200 for mine many years ago and it's similar in condition to the one you pointed out. Regardless, I'd say a G-note is definitely nuts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 28, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
Absolutely. However, not as rare as this seller is making it out to be. If I recall properly, no copy Scoots were printed early in the run (4 per full sheet with and 4 per full sheet without). This was corrected fairly early on (about halfway thru), with all 8 Scoots having the copyright on the final sheet.

I remember paying about $200 for mine many years ago and it's similar in condition to the one you pointed out. Regardless, I'd say a G-note is definitely nuts.

Not doubting Thomas, and I dont have my copy handy but i think i remember it saying in the WP handbook that there were equal quantities. I will have to look it up (not that the book is right). But i would like to get to the bottom of this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 28, 2013, 06:15:18 PM
Not doubting Thomas, and I dont have my copy handy but i think i remember it saying in the WP handbook that there were equal quantities. I will have to look it up (not that the book is right). But i would like to get to the bottom of this.

Greg’s site refers to the NC version as “rare”.

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/16th_series/scoot_nocopy_small_smaller_images.html
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 28, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
Absolutely. However, not as rare as this seller is making it out to be. If I recall properly, no copy Scoots were printed early in the run (4 per full sheet with and 4 per full sheet without). This was corrected fairly early on (about halfway thru), with all 8 Scoots having the copyright on the final sheet.

I remember paying about $200 for mine many years ago and it's similar in condition to the one you pointed out. Regardless, I'd say a G-note is definitely nuts.

This is basically my recollection as well. THE WACKY PACKAGES HANDBOOK does not mention this title specifically but has a general blurb about titles without copyrights. NON-SPORT UPDATE PRESENTS: WACKY PACKAGES  does not mention the no copyright variation for the SCOOT MOUTHWASH title. THE WACKY PACKAGES GALLERY mentions that, "SCOOT can be found with or without a copyright and is of equal scarcity to the other stickers in the set."  I take this to mean that when you combine the Scoot titles (with and without copyrights), the Scoot title was produced in equal quantities to other titles in the set. It does not give a ratio of the number of copyright to non copyright variations however or address the rarity of the no copyright var.

When I was very active in trading on Prodigy, back around 1991 through 1995, we considered the ratio to be about 4:1 (copyright: non-copyright) believing it was a conservative estimate to the rarity of Scoot non copyright. In other words, people would trade 4 titles from series 16 for 1 Scoot no copyright and most considered this fair trade at that time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 29, 2013, 03:52:15 AM
** edited to remove inaccurate statements about scoot n/c **

I also see $200 or so as the historical "going rate" for a Scoot n/c. What's interesting is the PSA "premium." I'd wager most would view Band-Ache as being worth less than $200. Yet a PSA 9 Band-Ache would easily sell for $2K. Yet $999 for this Scoot is in fact "nuts." The reason is that most Scoot n/c's out there are high grade, so the PSA 9 premium is much less significant. This is actually true of all 16ths.

Now a PSA 10 (with the right buyer) might actually approach this price (maybe not quite).

(http://s19.postimage.org/h20fg5z37/scoot10.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 29, 2013, 06:29:59 AM
There's no way to pin down how rare it is. The two versions are equally common on affected sheets, but the error was corrected, so not all sheets are affected.
I don't really remember the discussions of the copyright being fixed. (And it seems odd topps would even bother)
I had thought it was a case that the Slit A (*) sheet had the missing copyright on the 4 cards on the right side, whereas all 8 had the copyright on the Slit B (**) sheet. Making it 1 in 4 with the missing copyright.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 29, 2013, 07:19:57 AM
I don't really remember the discussions of the copyright being fixed. (And it seems odd topps would even bother)
I had thought it was a case that the Slit A (*) sheet had the missing copyright on the 4 cards on the right side, whereas all 8 had the copyright on the Slit B (**) sheet. Making it 1 in 4 with the missing copyright.

Now that you mention it I think you're right. I saw Rusty's made up story bolstered by a half sheet with all copyrights, and I accepted it. He has a lot of good stuff on his site, if only he would stop treating supposition as fact. That muddies the waters greatly as this thread shows.

Is there some documentation of what you say? I remember it now, but it's not in the gallery or on Greg's site that I see....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 29, 2013, 07:27:03 AM
Now that you mention it I think you're right. I saw Rusty's made up story bolstered by a half sheet with all copyrights, and I accepted it. He has a lot of good stuff on his site, if only he would stop treating supposition as fact. That muddies the waters greatly as this thread shows.

Is there some documentation of what you say? I remember it now, but it's not in the gallery or on Greg's site that I see....
I thought it was figured out at some point on the last forum, but can't get to those threads anymore. I think it was when topps auctioned off a bunch of sheets. The auctions saved on Greg's page show the A-slits with the no copyright. But I don't recall who might of had the B-slit to show those are all correct.
I think some folks also did counts to show that there were twice as many ** as either the * or blank versions
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 29, 2013, 12:19:12 PM
As a sidebar, this is a major disadvantage with information that is primarily stored "on the web" - it can vanish without warning. Had this happen with some gaming sites I was into several years ago.

Wonder if this might be hiding in one of the internet time machines such as the Internet Wayback Machine?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 29, 2013, 05:02:11 PM
As a sidebar, this is a major disadvantage with information that is primarily stored "on the web" - it can vanish without warning. Had this happen with some gaming sites I was into several years ago.

Wonder if this might be hiding in one of the internet time machines such as the Internet Wayback Machine?

When a person owns a website (as opposed to a company), and they pass away, does the website go dead and the information on the website is lost forever? (With the exception of Internet Wayback Machine, which is a great archival tool. I don’t think its crawlers capture message board type data, but not sure.)

Or can a website sustain itself indefinitely with no human interaction?

Is there an annual fee a website owner pays to the International Web Federation, and if so, can a website owner pay forward with a provision in their will? 

Is a website “housed” somewhere, as in a physical location, or is a server only required when there is an interactive message board?

Is this forum located in the clouds, or in Brad’s basement rumpus room?


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 19, 2014, 09:49:49 AM

Here’s a nice sketch by Jay, but when was the last time a sketch sold for anything near $1000?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Rare-Series-7-LE-Postcard-Jay-Lynch-Color-Sketch-/191039370890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7ad5768a

The seller has $175 BINs for a graded 10 Hoppy Meal and also Gaggin’ Strips, so I guess they’re shootin’ for the moon. Is there much of a demand for graded modern Wackys?


                              (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Jaysketch_zps23356561.png)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 19, 2014, 10:21:10 AM

The seller has $175 BINs for a graded 10 Hoppy Meal and also Gaggin’ Strips, so I guess they’re shootin’ for the moon. Is there much of a demand for graded modern Wackys?

graded postcard chase cards? that's a flat out complete waste of time and money on everyone's part.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on January 19, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
graded postcard chase cards? that's a flat out complete waste of time and money on everyone's part.

Except PSA's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 19, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
Except PSA's.
exactly.
I'd be cool if they would start up an 'un-gradeable' list and put all these modern mass-produced perfect cards on there.
and if someone still sends some anyways, charge them a penalty fee for wasting everyone's time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 25, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
OK, I do understand to some extent the value of a PSA graded Wacky and a GEM MT 10 is a rare breed even within those circles. But, $600? C'mon. Would anyone pay this?

eBay auction: #380851192974
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 25, 2014, 01:02:33 PM
I wouldn't, but a 1-of-1 PSA 9 Maddie Boy #36 die cut just sold for $2600.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 25, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
I would add, I've sold 4 or 5 1-of-1 PSA 10s from series 8-10 for between $300 and $400 each. Not saying there are a lot of people who pay that, but there are a couple.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on February 26, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
That "4 Sharp Corners" seller tends to overprice everything that is sold on that site. I don't think I could buy from them since I have it in my head that whatever they are asking is too much and unreasonable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on February 27, 2014, 06:24:55 AM
I would add, I've sold 4 or 5 1-of-1 PSA 10s from series 8-10 for between $300 and $400 each. Not saying there are a lot of people who pay that, but there are a couple.

All I see is that S16 stickers going for insane prices - $220 for a Scoot No Cop....crazy - i think people are moving back to the OS again...your thoughts..

where are all those OS packs?? dried up...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: koduck on February 27, 2014, 07:07:31 AM
OK, I do understand to some extent the value of a PSA graded Wacky and a GEM MT 10 is a rare breed even within those circles. But, $600? C'mon. Would anyone pay this?

eBay auction: #380851192974

A lot of people collect stickers with resale in mind, bu I'll take a worn out, off-center sticker over an overpriced PSA gem anyday...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on February 27, 2014, 07:30:45 AM
A lot of people collect stickers with resale in mind, bu I'll take a worn out, off-center sticker over an overpriced PSA gem anyday...

I think you'd be better off buying ANS art than this - there is a point of diminshing returns?? right? - might be the same 3-10 people selling it back and forth to each other... :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 27, 2014, 08:02:27 AM
Over time, very few people have lost money buying extremely high grade items. I would venture a guess that a PSA 10 Chock would hold it's value considerably better than ANS artwork. That said, it is not a 1-of-1, and the fact that a certain registry set collector already has a PSA 10 of this card definitely affects its value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Joe G. on February 27, 2014, 10:32:35 AM
Some of it has to do with going what environment you started collecting in.  My comic/card collecting was all in the 1970's.  At that point no one put any value on condition.  So to me condition is irrelevant.  As long as a comic/sticker is complete it's fine for me. 

A lot of people collect stickers with resale in mind, bu I'll take a worn out, off-center sticker over an overpriced PSA gem anyday...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 27, 2014, 11:03:04 AM
Some of it has to do with going what environment you started collecting in.  My comic/card collecting was all in the 1970's.  At that point no one put any value on condition.  So to me condition is irrelevant.  As long as a comic/sticker is complete it's fine for me. 


Every collector is different. For me, I want them to look like I just pulled them out of a pack. I don't collect comics so condition wouldn't be that critical to me but if it's a special series of comics that I wanted to collect I would try and get them as pristine as possible.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 27, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Every collector is different. For me, I want them to look like I just pulled them out of a pack. I don't collect comics so condition wouldn't be that critical to me but if it's a special series of comics that I wanted to collect I would try and get them as pristine as possible.


My Dad always taught me "Always buy the best you can afford". It will always be in demand and always be worth more. Not that all of us worry about the price fluctuations of our collections, but in the end it would be nice that what we bought appreciated instead of tank to nothing. Plus, of course none of us escapes death so our collection will eventually go somewhere. I would like to think that the family who get our collections will get a net gain from selling or keeping a nice collection. I dont want to think that they would look into a box and see a bunch of ragged stickers and think what a bunch of junk, and just throw our lives away. God forbid something should happen and someone needs money for medical bills, you look to your wacky collection and find its worthless.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 27, 2014, 05:58:42 PM

My Dad always taught me "Always buy the best you can afford". It will always be in demand and always be worth more. Not that all of us worry about the price fluctuations of our collections, but in the end it would be nice that what we bought appreciated instead of tank to nothing. Plus, of course none of us escapes death so our collection will eventually go somewhere. I would like to think that the family who get our collections will get a net gain from selling or keeping a nice collection. I dont want to think that they would look into a box and see a bunch of ragged stickers and think what a bunch of junk, and just throw our lives away. God forbid something should happen and someone needs money for medical bills, you look to your wacky collection and find its worthless.

Well said,,I feel the same way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 27, 2014, 07:23:04 PM

Plus, of course none of us escapes death so our collection will eventually go somewhere.
 

I'm still hopping to escape death. I've made plans to have my head frozen.         Bubbles and all...

I have a feeling my Wacky sticker collection and my sketches will be sold at a yard sale for 5 bucks some day
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 28, 2014, 02:54:52 AM
OK, what would you rather have, two PSA 10 Chocks or these three sets? I just don't know what people are smoking, on eBay these would be lucky to garner $100.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955 (http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 28, 2014, 05:08:42 AM
OK, what would you rather have, two PSA 10 Chocks or these three sets? I just don't know what people are smoking, on eBay these would be lucky to garner $100.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955 (http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955)

Absolutely unbelievable.  Hey, if you're looking for real bargain prices for fantastic OS4 sketches, check these out (do a search on the word "sketch"):

http://www.autographtradingstore.com/servlet/Categories


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
OK, what would you rather have, two PSA 10 Chocks or these three sets? I just don't know what people are smoking, on eBay these would be lucky to garner $100.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955 (http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=163955)

Did I read that right? Did 5th, 6th & 9th ex sets just sell for $1400 with 16 bids? If that's the case, I'll be selling some wackys on that site. Something seems fishy about that. You're right that the lot would sell for $100 to $150 on ebay on a good day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 28, 2014, 09:38:55 PM
Did I read that right? Did 5th, 6th & 9th ex sets just sell for $1400 with 16 bids? If that's the case, I'll be selling some wackys on that site. Something seems fishy about that. You're right that the lot would sell for $100 to $150 on ebay on a good day.

Over paying is one thing but they also charge a 19.5% buyers fee  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 01, 2014, 08:35:12 AM

Hey, if you're looking for real bargain prices for fantastic OS4 sketches, check these out (do a search on the word "sketch"):

http://www.autographtradingstore.com/servlet/Categories


LOL, some of them prices there are just too much!

I want a bit more quality if I am going to spend over $200 on a sketch

                      (http://i61.tinypic.com/2zz2nw3.png)


http://www.autographtradingstore.com/servlet/the-5161/Wacky-Packages-Old-School/Detail
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on March 01, 2014, 09:24:08 AM
LOL, some of them prices there are just too much!

I want a bit more quality if I am going to spend over $200 on a sketch

                      (http://i61.tinypic.com/2zz2nw3.png)


http://www.autographtradingstore.com/servlet/the-5161/Wacky-Packages-Old-School/Detail


More quality? It's a 1 of 1 sketch IN COLOR!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 02, 2014, 01:32:29 AM
More quality? It's a 1 of 1 sketch IN COLOR!  :]


                 (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Madmangif_zps74d949de.gif)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 02, 2014, 01:26:05 PM
How about someone who is the high bidder, and then bids four more times when no one else has?!?!?!?!?

I'm going to do my typical: bid one time for the amount that I'm willing to pay with less than 10 seconds left so I don't have time to change my mind, and if I lose, then someone was willing to pay more than I was. 

(http://s15.postimg.org/7bhpmqaxz/Multiple_Bids.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7bhpmqaxz/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on March 03, 2014, 08:01:09 AM
How about someone who is the high bidder, and then bids four more times when no one else has?!?!?!?!?

I'm going to do my typical: bid one time for the amount that I'm willing to pay with less than 10 seconds left so I don't have time to change my mind, and if I lose, then someone was willing to pay more than I was. 

(http://s15.postimg.org/7bhpmqaxz/Multiple_Bids.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7bhpmqaxz/)


That is dangerous to do  :o

People can easily "walk up your bid tree" when you have more than one top bid because they know they can bid all the way past your earlier ones and still make you pay higher just to be vindictive.

 I had it done to me once! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on March 03, 2014, 08:23:36 AM
That is dangerous to do  :o

People can easily "walk up your bid tree" when you have more than one top bid because they know they can bid all the way past your earlier ones and still make you pay higher just to be vindictive.

 I had it done to me once! 

You do have to be careful if/when you do that. You never know for sure just where someone's bid ends. If you push too far, you could become the top bidder when you just wanted to be vindictive & end up screwing yourself if you really didn't want to bid that high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 03, 2014, 11:29:40 AM
That's a very good point I hadn't thought about.  I thought maybe it was a psychological tactic, to say, "hey the high bid is $18, but I'm willing to pay much more, so stay away."  Not being the vindictive sort (unlike the guys on Storage Wars), running up someone else's bid wouldn't even cross my mind.

Well, p***a won the auction.  The four bids were $25, $35, $50, and something higher than the $78.90 I bid. I bid higher than I normally would because this was something I hadn't seen before.  Come to find out it was actually something I already had brand new in the box, and this auction was for one that was "gently used" without a box.  The picture was misleading, and the description didn't give enough information for me to realize I already had it.  I'm VERY happy I didn't win or overpay.  Now I'm wondering why p***a bid so much since a brand new one is only a little over $100.  I guess s/he was either misled too or just didn't do the research.

I've also often wondered about shill bidders who work with the seller to run up the auction prices by raising the bid by the minimum amount at a time, knowing that even if they go over the highest bid, it will only be by a small margin.  Then the person who is no longer the highest bidder will probably bid again later -- especially since eBay sends out a "you've been overbid - don't let it get away" email.  I've seen auctions where someone had bid like this about 10-15 times in a row within about a 5 minute period.  I've always wondered if either they didn't understand the rules, or if they were covertly involved with the seller.  That's the major reason why I DON'T bid until the very end.  I don't want to play silly games with these people that only ends up driving up the price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 03, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
I've always wondered if either they didn't understand the rules, or if they were covertly involved with the seller.
My experience leads me to believe there are many who do not understand eBay's proxy bidding rules. Otherwise, why would anyone bump up their bid $1 at a time, 57 times per auction, and be immediately outbid. This is a clear signal that they obviously don't get it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on March 06, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
It may be a rare thing for a checklist to be graded PSA 10, but I can't see even the most wealthy, die-hard collector paying $349 for a series 14 MM checklist...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-14-ROSTA-ROOT-PUZZLE-PIECE-C-M-PSA-10-MINT-/351008118817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b9b6d821

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 06, 2014, 05:18:43 PM
It may be a rare thing for a checklist to be graded PSA 10, but I can't see even the most wealthy, die-hard collector paying $349 for a series 14 MM checklist...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-14-ROSTA-ROOT-PUZZLE-PIECE-C-M-PSA-10-MINT-/351008118817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51b9b6d821

that's a lotta ¥en !!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 06, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
that's a lotta ¥en !!

lol! especially when it isn't even the whole puzzle!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 06, 2014, 08:54:03 PM
That puzzle would cost you a pretty penny to complete at PSA 10. I don't even know what I would do with it once I completed it. There are sooooooooooo many more wacky items that display MUCH better.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on March 06, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
You do have to be careful if/when you do that. You never know for sure just where someone's bid ends. If you push too far, you could become the top bidder when you just wanted to be vindictive & end up screwing yourself if you really didn't want to bid that high.

What I am saying is if (like the poster said for example) the high bidder put in 4! high bids, it is perfectly safe and no problem to walk up the first 3 bids until they are exceeded. 

Yea, sure with the 4th bid they would have to be careful if that person is just playing around with them, but the other ones they can just walk it up no problem.

I won't ever bid more than one high bid since I had someone do that to me haha.  I learned my lesson.   8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on March 07, 2014, 05:54:18 AM
What I am saying is if (like the poster said for example) the high bidder put in 4! high bids, it is perfectly safe and no problem to walk up the first 3 bids until they are exceeded.  

Yea, sure with the 4th bid they would have to be careful if that person is just playing around with them, but the other ones they can just walk it up no problem.

I won't ever bid more than one high bid since I had someone do that to me haha.  I learned my lesson.   8)

Let's say you are bidding on a $200 item. I may bid $200, $201, $202 & $202.50 to show 4 bids - namely, I'm way up there with 4 bids. I may feel I scared someone away because they would never bid with me going up so frequently, or so people may think. You bid $200, tie the #4 bid. Then bid $205 figuring he has 3 higher bids, and there you go... you bought it. When the bids are hidden, you just never know.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on March 07, 2014, 06:03:00 AM
Ah ok, I see what you're saying.  Yea if they put the amounts that close it would be easier for them to bid over it.  Good point.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 07, 2014, 07:51:59 AM
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Let's say you are bidding on a $200 item. I may bid $200, $201, $202 & $202.50 to show 4 bids - namely, I'm way up there with 4 bids. I may feel I scared someone away because they would never bid with me going up so frequently, or so people may think. You bid $200, tie the #4 bid. Then bid $205 figuring he has 3 higher bids, and there you go... you bought it. When the bids are hidden, you just never know.

In your example, you would have to bid $200, $202.50, $205, $207.50 since $2.50 is the minimum bid increment at that level. 

So lets change it to $25, $26, $27, and $28 since those numbers are easier to work with.  Let's say that you don't like being normal, so you bid $25.55, $26.66, $27.77, and $28.88.  When I see the auction, the bid is $25 and there is one person who bid at least that plus 3 more.  My minimum amount to bid is $26 ($25 plus the minimum $1).  When I bid that, the new high will be $26.66 since that's the next highest bid, and eBay cannot force you to pay my bid plus the minimum because you only bid $26.66.  Now I know what your second bid was.  My next required bid would be $26.66 + $1 = $27.66, and the new high would be $27.77 -- your next highest bid.  My next required bid would be $27.77 + $1 = $28.77, and the new high would be $28.88, so I've now safely discovered your highest bid.  If you had decided to break your pattern and had bid $28.77 instead (the minimum you could to go over your $27.77), then we would tie, and the high bid would be $28.77, but you would be winning, so I still discovered your high bid because it was no higher than mine.  Now if you also like to play Jeopardy! and you were good at figuring out what to bid for final jeopardy, you could bid 2 x the minimum + $.01 or $27.77 + $2.01 = $29.78.  Now when I bid $28.77, the new high will jump to $28.77 plus the minimum $1 = $29.77.  Now I know you bid higher, but I don't know by how much.  If I bid $30.77 at this point, then I will be the high bidder.

In my case, the person who bid 4 times actually made me bid a little higher than I wanted to because I knew I had to beat three more bids.  I probably would've bid about $50 since it wasn't new and didn't have the box, but I bid almost $80 because I thought it was something I hadn't seen before.  Since his highest was still higher, he had to pay around $81 instead of $51.  So his "psychological advantage" ended up costing him money.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 07, 2014, 04:29:40 PM
In your example, you would have to bid $200, $202.50, $205, $207.50 since $2.50 is the minimum bid increment at that level. 
is this still true on pre-bids?
I always thought it wasn't, since the current auction price is somewhere well below the minimum, and so no minimum difference is required between your bid A and B or C or D.
I've never tried this though
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 18, 2014, 06:31:15 PM
OK, you all have no idea how tempted I am to peel a few of my extras and see if they'd give me $5 each for some more "one of a kind"s.  >(

eBay auction: #281289102265
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 19, 2014, 02:36:05 AM
OK, you all have no idea how tempted I am to peel a few of my extras and see if they'd give me $5 each for some more "one of a kind"s.  >(

eBay auction: #281289102265

I'm surprised PSA was willing to grade it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 19, 2014, 04:40:38 AM
I'm surprised PSA was willing to grade it.

I think as long as they get paid, they'd probably grade your old driver's license.  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Lavirus on March 19, 2014, 07:51:24 AM
I think as long as they get paid, they'd probably grade your old driver's license.  :]

Mine's at least a six!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on April 11, 2014, 04:16:34 PM
Why do people insist on sellign crap like this? Is there anyone out there really that desperate or despondent about their prospects for happiness that they would find themselves willing to shell out money for this lot? Sorry guys/gals - I'm in a cynical mood tonight.

I guess I'm feeling this way since I just starting selling some of my extras on eBay and I am going out of my way to inform prospective buyers about any and all flaws I see and the only thing this seller can find questionable about the lot they are hawking is that there are "small circled numbers on the back of the cards."

Maybe I just need a drink. lol...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-29-CARDS-1974-1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-/161273862723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item258cabda43
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Alexeirex on April 11, 2014, 04:23:43 PM
Why do people insist on sellign crap like this? Is there anyone out there really that desperate or despondent about their prospects for happiness that they would find themselves willing to shell out money for this lot? Sorry guys/gals - I'm in a cynical mood tonight.

I guess I'm feeling this way since I just starting selling some of my extras on eBay and I am going out of my way to inform prospective buyers about any and all flaws I see and the only thing this seller can find questionable about the lot they are hawking is that there are "small circled numbers on the back of the cards."

Maybe I just need a drink. lol...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-29-CARDS-1974-1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-/161273862723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item258cabda43

Ugh, the seller doesn't even notice that most of the wackys don't have their surrounding white sticker areas? A
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 11, 2014, 05:18:51 PM
Ugh, the seller doesn't even notice that most of the wackys don't have their surrounding white sticker areas? A
a.k.a. borders    8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 02, 2014, 09:52:22 AM
Curious to see how much this sells for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cuts-RATZ-CRACKED-ANIMALS-RARE-/271470896729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f34ed2659

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 02, 2014, 12:46:43 PM
I wouldn't pay fifty cents for it, but happily, there's a buyer for every item.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 02, 2014, 01:08:05 PM
I'm with Dave on this, not worth anything, at least to me.

Looking closer, I'm thinking these are Duane repros just cut really badly. I don't see any perfs on the back, especially on Cracked. Even if they ARE "pre-perfed" originals, they're still valueless in my book.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 02, 2014, 04:41:13 PM
This guy's funny. PSA neglected to describe his card as "re-issue" like they usually do, and he's convinced his card is special as a result!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-60-PSA-8-TOP-SLOB-NOT-REISSUE-GPK-non-sport-packages-/111342979978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ec8f0b8a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-60-PSA-8-TOP-SLOB-NOT-REISSUE-GPK-non-sport-packages-/111342979978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ec8f0b8a)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on May 02, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
This guy's funny. PSA neglected to describe his card as "re-issue" like they usually do, and he's convinced his card is special as a result!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-60-PSA-8-TOP-SLOB-NOT-REISSUE-GPK-non-sport-packages-/111342979978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ec8f0b8a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-60-PSA-8-TOP-SLOB-NOT-REISSUE-GPK-non-sport-packages-/111342979978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ec8f0b8a)

I just wrote to tell him/her as much. I don't know why I bother. Oh wait, I remember, it's because I detest when folks try to pass something off as something else when it's obviously not. Although in this case I am not sure what else it could be. lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 06, 2014, 01:02:48 PM
Well, the auction owner doesn't really claim this is a Wacky Package... but, out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is from?

eBay auction: #271479671281
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 06, 2014, 01:44:02 PM
Well, the auction owner doesn't really claim this is a Wacky Package... but, out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is from?

eBay auction: #271479671281
looks like it's Good Times trading cards, it's one of the stickers in the set

[expando]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk2/$(KGrHqR,!kwE+5)HdV(cBQH!5EwO!!~~60_57.JPG[/expando]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 06, 2014, 02:03:02 PM
looks like it's Good Times trading cards, it's one of the stickers in the set

[expando]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk2/$(KGrHqR,!kwE+5)HdV(cBQH!5EwO!!~~60_57.JPG[/expando]

Interesting. Initially I though this might be a Wacky Packages homage within the set, but more likely just that Topps went with the same border style. Looks like this GOOD TIMES set was being produced at the same time the OS series were. Thanks for the bloodhound work. Although we didn't watch this television show, I remember it being quite popular at the time.  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Joe G. on May 06, 2014, 07:18:19 PM
Is this a Topps set?  Any chance it was painted by Norm Saunders?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: paste_anyplace on May 06, 2014, 10:59:57 PM
Is this a Topps set?  Any chance it was painted by Norm Saunders?

The Dy-no-mite sticker is pictured in the Norman Saunders book.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 16, 2014, 04:40:56 AM
I guess I missed the memo.  When did a miscut suddenly become a printing error / one of a kind and make it more valuable?  I suppose every card is one of a kind if you measure the width of the borders and location of the copyright with enough precision.  And how is cutting something wrong a "printing error?"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-2-Duznt-PRINTING-ERROR-ON-THE-BACKSIDE-/131190697985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8b933001

I suppose each one of these are one of a kind too since the gum is broken in different patterns.  Why isn't he asking $3,000?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321406821520&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on May 16, 2014, 05:01:54 AM
I guess I missed the memo.  When did a miscut suddenly become a printing error / one of a kind and make it more valuable?  I suppose every card is one of a kind if you measure the width of the borders and location of the copyright with enough precision.  And how is cutting something wrong a "printing error?"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-2-Duznt-PRINTING-ERROR-ON-THE-BACKSIDE-/131190697985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8b933001

Not to mention the guy can't grade.  "Near mint"?!?!  Yeah right.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 16, 2014, 05:28:17 AM
 And how is cutting something wrong a "printing error?"


You say "tomato", I say "brontosaurus".  ;)   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 16, 2014, 06:33:36 AM
I guess I missed the memo.  When did a miscut suddenly become a printing error / one of a kind and make it more valuable?  I suppose every card is one of a kind if you measure the width of the borders and location of the copyright with enough precision.  And how is cutting something wrong a "printing error?"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-2-Duznt-PRINTING-ERROR-ON-THE-BACKSIDE-/131190697985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e8b933001

I suppose each one of these are one of a kind too since the gum is broken in different patterns.  Why isn't he asking $3,000?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321406821520&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

This person must also collect coins or currency.  In that hobby if you find an error it is worth big money. However the quality control at the mint is light years ahead of Topps.  (Meaning finding an error is next to impossible in those hobbies)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 16, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
This person must also collect coins or currency.  In that hobby if you find an error it is worth big money. However the quality control at the mint is light years ahead of Topps.  (Meaning finding an error is next to impossible in those hobbies)

Maybe so.  There are two other listings for die cuts by this same seller that don't have "printing errors" for $600 and $900, and aren't Ratz, Cracked, or Alt. Jolly.  I'm just amazed at how little research people do before trying to sell something on eBay.  I remember when I was finishing up my Topps 1973 Baseball set, the last card I needed was the Mike Schmidt rookie.  The book value was about $150 for NM.  I would watch the new listings daily, and most of them would sell between $100-$150.  There were a few listings for PSA 9s or 10s that started at $500-$1000, which is probably reasonable.  I remember someone listing one for $750 buy it now with dings on the corners and wasn't PSA graded.  He relisted a few times, and then finally gave up. Duh.  If he'd done any type of search for current listings, he would have realized he was trying to get about 10x the value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 16, 2014, 02:48:39 PM
I'm just amazed at how little research people do before trying to sell something on eBay.
Yup, it's annoying, yet fairly common. I just wrote to them, explaining what they have. Doubt it'll change anything, including the price and their intelligence.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 16, 2014, 03:01:26 PM
This person must also collect coins or currency.  In that hobby if you find an error it is worth big money. However the quality control at the mint is light years ahead of Topps.  (Meaning finding an error is next to impossible in those hobbies)

I was at a coin show last year, and was surprised to see one seller had hundreds of modern US error coins. (You might be right regarding stamps, I don’t know) Like this misstruck penny. I think some people collect various types of error coins. You can purchase misstruck coins for 10-20 dollars. I wonder how error coins get out of the mint. Does someone smuggle them out?!

                                        (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Penny_zps7478b093.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2001-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Error-Misstruck-Planchet-Off-Center-/251527978918?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a903c5fa6
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 17, 2014, 05:01:07 AM
Curious to see how much this sells for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cuts-RATZ-CRACKED-ANIMALS-RARE-/271470896729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f34ed2659


Somebody paid $90 for this.  Really sad if these are truly Duane repros that were cut up.  Probably won't be long before we see the other halves up for auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 17, 2014, 05:56:30 AM
Given who the seller is, they are probably not repros. More likely a proof sheet if it is unscored.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on June 05, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-62-My-T-Fink-/231251066146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d7a33d22

Sweeeeeet! If only they shipped to Canada (eh). Darn it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on June 06, 2014, 09:47:15 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-stickers-vintage-Alot-of-high-priced-rares-/221458291380?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338ff15ab4

This listing is one of the most %^$# up I have seen in some time. I don't even know where to begin...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 06, 2014, 09:54:41 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-stickers-vintage-Alot-of-high-priced-rares-/221458291380?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338ff15ab4

This listing is one of the most %^$# up I have seen in some time. I don't even know where to begin...

There are so many flaws in the description I don't know where to begin:

Very nice wacky collection, there are 368 cards (stickers),98% are mint! T.c.g. tan backs (61),t.c.g. white backs (5),1977 (64),1979 (66) complete set w/rare double w/out card date or #'ed.1980 (120),1982 (5),1986 (17),there are (11) odd ball stickers,different dates.on to the checklist- t.c.g. Rare 2nd series (2)Rare 3rd (1),Rare 4th. (2),RARE 5th. (1).7Th. (4),8th. (1),9Th. (3),12Th. (1),14th. (3)...just because none of the cards are graded dnt mean most ain't gems 10's!!! I've seen over 50 cards in this collection sale before on eBay from $50- to over $250- each with bidding wars.the rare checklist's in this collection would sale alone for my asking price on everything, so the stickers are a bonuses!!!! Because none are graded or in hard cases dnt mean there not nice or rare.dnt miss out,wnt last long.Thanks....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 06, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
Based on this description, I wonder if there are 64 shedds titles?

There are so many flaws in the description I don't know where to begin:

Very nice wacky collection, there are 368 cards (stickers),98% are mint! T.c.g. tan backs (61),t.c.g. white backs (5),1977 (64),1979 (66) complete set w/rare double w/out card date or #'ed.1980 (120),1982 (5),1986 (17),there are (11) odd ball stickers,different dates.on to the checklist- t.c.g. Rare 2nd series (2)Rare 3rd (1),Rare 4th. (2),RARE 5th. (1).7Th. (4),8th. (1),9Th. (3),12Th. (1),14th. (3)...just because none of the cards are graded dnt mean most ain't gems 10's!!! I've seen over 50 cards in this collection sale before on eBay from $50- to over $250- each with bidding wars.the rare checklist's in this collection would sale alone for my asking price on everything, so the stickers are a bonuses!!!! Because none are graded or in hard cases dnt mean there not nice or rare.dnt miss out,wnt last long.Thanks....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 06, 2014, 10:40:27 AM
Based on this description, I wonder if there are 64 shedds titles?


I don't think the guy knows the mean of "rare", "mint," or "gem 10" - but I could be partially wrong about "rare" if there are truly 64 from 1977.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 06, 2014, 11:07:05 AM
I don't think the guy knows the mean of "rare", "mint," or "gem 10" - but I could be partially wrong about "rare" if there are truly 64 from 1977.

Here's my conversation:

Kook: Hi, Do you have a scan or pic of any of the 1977 stickers?

Reply: I was up late when I posted all this, I made a error. they weren't 77,it was a different set of 79's.sorry! if u were still maybe wanting to buy the collection, I can work w u on a better price
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 06, 2014, 11:10:17 AM
Here's my conversation:

Kook: Hi, Do you have a scan or pic of any of the 1977 stickers?

Reply: I was up late when I posted all this, I made a error. they weren't 77,it was a different set of 79's.sorry! if u were still maybe wanting to buy the collection, I can work w u on a better price

Not surprising!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 06, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Good god, they can't even take the time to put the 'o' in won't or don't. Guess they left the '.' out of the starting price as well. $18.50 is more like it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on June 06, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
Here's my conversation:

Kook: Hi, Do you have a scan or pic of any of the 1977 stickers?

Reply: I was up late when I posted all this, I made a error. they weren't 77,it was a different set of 79's.sorry! if u were still maybe wanting to buy the collection, I can work w u on a better price

So, did you work out a better price or what?   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on June 06, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
Here's my conversation:

Kook: Hi, Do you have a scan or pic of any of the 1977 stickers?

Reply: I was up late when I posted all this, I made a error. they weren't 77,it was a different set of 79's.sorry! if u were still maybe wanting to buy the collection, I can work w u on a better price

Here's a transcript of our conversation (I was bored at work).

Dear cowboy-cutlass,

You may want to check out the price guide next time before you list:

http://www.wackypackages.org/priceguide/stickers.html

I have been collecting for several years and most of the cards you are listing would not fetch for 1$ let alone $50 as you claim (and some of them are not even WPs). Any stickers that are numbered are reprints which are virtually worthless as singles. Checklists which are checked are pretty much value-less as well.

Also, and I am trying to be helpful here, mint stickers are rare, very rare. Generally, only stickers straight out of the pack have a chance of being graded mint. Most of what you have seems average and the checklists are certainly not anywhere near mint.

Just thought you may want to know so you don't get your hopes up.

Cheers,
g

thanks, district know there was a price book

- cowboy-cutlass

I just checked his listing and it looks like he heeded my advice and lowered his asking price - by $400.00! This, after presumably looking up the 'value' of his stickers. Beezarre.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on July 09, 2014, 06:30:05 AM
This is what, maybe a $30 to $40 card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-24-Band-Ache-Strips-Die-Cut-PSA-8-SUPER-CLEAN-/161360956662?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 09, 2014, 08:01:52 AM
This is what, maybe a $30 to $40 card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-24-Band-Ache-Strips-Die-Cut-PSA-8-SUPER-CLEAN-/161360956662?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123



Technically, it's probably a $100-150 card, although, I find it to be a poor example of a PSA 8 (tilt, tanning on reverse), so I wouldn't really want it at all.

Certainly not worth anywhere near the asking price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 09, 2014, 09:17:45 AM
Technically, it's probably a $100-150 card, although, I find it to be a poor example of a PSA 8 (tilt, tanning on reverse), so I wouldn't really want it at all.

Certainly not worth anywhere near the asking price.

I think he got his signals crossed. This would be an appropriate high price for a psa 8 bandache 1st series card, not diecut.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 10, 2014, 03:46:06 AM
I think he got his signals crossed. This would be an appropriate high price for a psa 8 bandache 1st series card, not diecut.
It did sell though.  Someone did buy it
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 10, 2014, 07:09:49 AM
It did sell though.  Someone did buy it

You are right, it did sell. It sold for $400, which I think is very high for a regular (not non-repeat or # variation) psa8. I think Dave's price estimate is more accurate, maybe even stretching it a bit to $200. My guess is someone got excited & made an offer thinking 1973, not 1967 unless diecut demand is severely pent up. Since the seller offers returns, I wouldn't be surprised to see it surface again in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on July 10, 2014, 07:53:25 PM
You are right, it did sell. It sold for $400, which I think is very high for a regular (not non-repeat or # variation) psa8. I think Dave's price estimate is more accurate, maybe even stretching it a bit to $200. My guess is someone got excited & made an offer thinking 1973, not 1967 unless diecut demand is severely pent up. Since the seller offers returns, I wouldn't be surprised to see it surface again in a couple of weeks.

Wow - that's amazing.  I agree with Dave that the card was overgraded to begin with, and apparently there was confusion over the die-cut versus the sticker.  The ungraded die-cut I got for $35 a few years back is about the same or better than this one; maybe I should sell it for $350!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 13, 2014, 07:14:34 AM
only $1000 for some knock off posters! what a steal!

eBay auction: #271547149643
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on July 13, 2014, 08:29:41 AM
So I should go to the local printer, break the law and then make money?!?!?!?! LMBO!!!  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on July 13, 2014, 09:02:09 AM
If these are the fan-made posters I think they are, I have the Fanatik poster framed and displayed, and the quality is really excellent.  That being said, $100 apiece seems way out there...............
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 14, 2014, 11:04:51 AM
only $1000 for some knock off posters! what a steal!

eBay auction: #271547149643

NOT!!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on July 14, 2014, 12:21:40 PM
only $1000 for some knock off posters! what a steal!

eBay auction: #271547149643

Well, at least there is 12 months financing available       :D

What makes this Wacky Flashback sticker so valuable to be asking 500 smackers? I guess it is rare because it has a blank back - is it some kind of test run sticker?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Flashback-4-1-of-1-Card-BGS/110560283076?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23930%26meid%3D8314946588614106002%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10200%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271547149643&rt=nc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 14, 2014, 01:30:10 PM
only $1000 for some knock off posters! what a steal!

eBay auction: #271547149643

I think this person is a forum member but I can't remember off hand. The ebay user name is so familiar.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on July 14, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
What is the story with the guy selling "color photos" of Wacky Packages items on Ebay? Has this already been discussed? If he is a forum member? He is not doing anything wrong but there were a few times when I almost clicked the Buy-It-Now thinking I was going to get a steal on an actual box. The thought crossed my mind that maybe that's the hope? Maybe not...no need to accuse I suppose. Its just very bizarre to think that anyone would pay $10 or $12 for a photo of a box of whatever the item is. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 15, 2014, 05:25:36 AM
What is the story with the guy selling "color photos" of Wacky Packages items on Ebay? Has this already been discussed? If he is a forum member? He is not doing anything wrong but there were a few times when I almost clicked the Buy-It-Now thinking I was going to get a steal on an actual box. The thought crossed my mind that maybe that's the hope? Maybe not...no need to accuse I suppose. Its just very bizarre to think that anyone would pay $10 or $12 for a photo of a box of whatever the item is. 

SCAM!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 15, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
Well, at least there is 12 months financing available       :D

What makes this Wacky Flashback sticker so valuable to be asking 500 smackers? I guess it is rare because it has a blank back - is it some kind of test run sticker?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Flashback-4-1-of-1-Card-BGS/110560283076?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23930%26meid%3D8314946588614106002%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D10200%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D271547149643&rt=nc


I think these were the 1/1 unscored cards. I ended up with the silver band ache.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 15, 2014, 06:51:32 PM
What is the story with the guy selling "color photos" of Wacky Packages items on Ebay?  
I believe this is the same seller who actually published a book containing all of these photos. I don't know any more detail than that and I suspect there is little more in said book than the photos (i.e. little or no textual information describing each photo). I'm thinking that he's now trying to squeeze a couple more bucks out of the project by selling the photos...and I've almost been sucked into purchasing a couple myself. Both deceiving and annoying.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on July 15, 2014, 06:55:48 PM
Ok at least its not just me. It was close a couple times...the closest being a 79 test pack.....:(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on July 19, 2014, 04:20:35 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-70s-WACKY-PACKAGES-T-SHiRT-JAIL-O-CARD-TOPPS-INC-RARE-ORIGINAL-/380954558447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b2a93fef


 :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 19, 2014, 04:24:20 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-70s-WACKY-PACKAGES-T-SHiRT-JAIL-O-CARD-TOPPS-INC-RARE-ORIGINAL-/380954558447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b2a93fef


 :-\

You gotta be kidding me.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 19, 2014, 06:25:51 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-70s-WACKY-PACKAGES-T-SHiRT-JAIL-O-CARD-TOPPS-INC-RARE-ORIGINAL-/380954558447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b2a93fef


 :-\

I had one with a stain like that.  I spilled paint thinner on it.  My mother threw it out.  Now I'm wishing I'd saved it for eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on July 19, 2014, 01:08:52 PM
You gotta be kidding me.....

Did someone give birth on that shirt?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 20, 2014, 06:47:04 AM
Did someone give birth on that shirt?

what is a boy or girl???? :] :] :] :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: quas on July 21, 2014, 05:27:44 AM
Does anybody know what in the world these things are:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=1976+shock+theater+art+wacky

No, but they've probably been on ebay for years, just like a lot of that seller's items.

On the other hand, I think these were just recently listed:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=wacky&item=111413965667&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&_from=R40&hash=item19f0ca3363&_ssn=gs19722014&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xsticker&_nkw=sticker&_sacat=0

Grab 'em while you can!   Even thought they are "With Out Gum."
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 21, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
No, but they've probably been on ebay for years, just like a lot of that seller's items.

they're from the 3rd Reprint set production process.
They are the actual stickers that were used for creation of the images for that set.
They're affixed onto leftover shock theater cards to give them support/prevent curling
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: quas on July 21, 2014, 08:54:41 AM
No, but they've probably been on ebay for years, just like a lot of that seller's items.

On the other hand, I think these were just recently listed:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=wacky&item=111413965667&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&_from=R40&hash=item19f0ca3363&_ssn=gs19722014&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xsticker&_nkw=sticker&_sacat=0

Grab 'em while you can!   Even thought they are "With Out Gum."


And this guy just doesn't stop with the great bargains:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Vintage-Topps-Stickers-BONE-AMI-Collectors-Choice-MINT-/111414171211?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f0cd564b

Kind of reminiscent of the days of Mark Macaluso at the Philly shows.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on July 21, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
You crack me up!
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on July 21, 2014, 09:57:58 PM

And this guy just doesn't stop with the great bargains:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Vintage-Topps-Stickers-BONE-AMI-Collectors-Choice-MINT-/111414171211?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f0cd564b

Kind of reminiscent of the days of Mark Macaluso at the Philly shows.

Not one has a bid yet?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on July 24, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
Really???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-1975-WACKY-PACKAGE-TRADING-CARDS-WITH-TAN-BACK-LOT-OF-25-/151363646870?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233df9f596
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 24, 2014, 01:02:26 PM
Really???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-1975-WACKY-PACKAGE-TRADING-CARDS-WITH-TAN-BACK-LOT-OF-25-/151363646870?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233df9f596

Most of 'em look like they were recovered from a dumpster and pulled away from rotting meat and banana peels.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on July 24, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
Most of 'em look like they were recovered from a dumpster and pulled away from rotting meat and banana peels.
YOUR BACKUP SET ..................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 25, 2014, 05:25:08 AM
Really???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-1975-WACKY-PACKAGE-TRADING-CARDS-WITH-TAN-BACK-LOT-OF-25-/151363646870?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233df9f596
I would not buy these even if they were .01.   It looks like the got wet at sometime and the black stuff is black mold.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 25, 2014, 06:19:47 AM
I would not buy these even if they were .01.   It looks like the got wet at sometime and the black stuff is black mold.

If the seller pays me $20 and ships for free, I'll take 'em.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 28, 2014, 01:33:16 PM
The oh-so-elusive Stiffords Tan and White Variations.    LOL!!

eBay auction: #121421584474
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on August 28, 2014, 05:23:22 PM
LOL! I think I will sell poop in a bag for my next trick!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on August 28, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
The oh-so-elusive Stiffords Tan and White Variations.    LOL!!

eBay auction: #121421584474
Only variation I see is one copyright or two (miscut).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 28, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
Only variation I see is one copyright or two (miscut).
Look at the border coloring. One is tanned. To this guy, these are variations.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 28, 2014, 11:06:35 PM
Damn. I was hoping this could turn into something?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on August 29, 2014, 09:38:35 AM
Has anyone heard of these "Authentic Magnets" before? I assume they're counterfeit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251629830925&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:3160 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251629830925&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:3160)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on August 29, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
Look at the border coloring. One is tanned. To this guy, these are variations.  >(
I understand, I'm just looking for some way to authenticate the description, however remote, in a tongue-in-cheek kinda way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
Has anyone heard of these "Authentic Magnets" before? I assume they're counterfeit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251629830925&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:3160 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251629830925&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:3160)

They are real authentic magnets... but just not Wacky Package items. It was a cheap knock-off item from the late '70s. I have a box at home (sorry, I am at work now or would post more information about the company and year). You used to find boxes of them for about $8 on eBay years ago. Their $850 asking price seems a bit steep.   >( >( >(

Its hard to tell from the photos, but they are "puffy" vinyl shapes with a small magnet inside. They are a kind of cool item to have for novelty sake. On most of them, the printing is very badly centered so the colors don't usually line up with the artwork. It you can get one good sample of each title out of a box, you are doing well. Interesting, but not really worth more than $5 or $10 in my opinion.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on August 29, 2014, 12:32:33 PM
They are real authentic magnets... but just not Wacky Package items. It was a cheap knock-off item from the late '70s. I have a box at home (sorry, I am at work now or would post more information about the company and year). You used to find boxes of them for about $8 on eBay years ago. Their $850 asking price seems a bit steep.   >( >( >(

Its hard to tell from the photos, but they are "puffy" vinyl shapes with a small magnet inside. They are a kind of cool item to have for novelty sake. On most of them, the printing is very badly centered so the colors don't usually line up with the artwork. It you can get one good sample of each title out of a box, you are doing well. Interesting, but not really worth more than $5 or $10 in my opinion.   

Thanks for the info. Are the magnets the same color as the images on the box?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2014, 12:34:46 PM
Thanks for the info. Are the magnets the same color as the images on the box?

If I remember correctly, they are. I will check tonight.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
They are real authentic magnets... but just not Wacky Package items. It was a cheap knock-off item from the late '70s. I have a box at home (sorry, I am at work now or would post more information about the company and year). You used to find boxes of them for about $8 on eBay years ago. Their $850 asking price seems a bit steep.   >( >( >(

Its hard to tell from the photos, but they are "puffy" vinyl shapes with a small magnet inside. They are a kind of cool item to have for novelty sake. On most of them, the printing is very badly centered so the colors don't usually line up with the artwork. It you can get one good sample of each title out of a box, you are doing well. Interesting, but not really worth more than $5 or $10 in my opinion.  

Sarcasm is lost on some people. I wrote to the eBay auction owner:

ME:  "I have a couple boxes of these non-licensed knock-offs from the late '70s. This is not a Topps item. Would you like to purchase mine for $500 per box?" My subtle attempt to refute their "One-of-a-KiND" claim and perhaps suggest the price was outlandish.

THEM: "No
But you can buy mine if you want it. I know it is not Put out by Topps, just think someone might want to add it to their collection." 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: chipereno on August 29, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
Do you know who the GA Dawg is?
I was hoping he'd start unloading all of his sweet stuff...but not too much of it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2014, 08:32:20 PM
If I remember correctly, they are. I will check tonight.

These "puffy" magnets were made in Taiwan for Nadel and Sons Toy Corp. of NYC

Here is a better scan of the titles that come from the box on eBay:

(http://s15.postimg.org/vpipl3e3b/Puffy_magnet_set_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vpipl3e3b/)

There is also a 2nd set of these:

(http://s27.postimg.org/qet0yq8qn/Puffy_magnet_set_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qet0yq8qn/)

The 2nd set came in the following box:



(http://s1.postimg.org/7bpbwaot7/Puffy_magnet_set_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7bpbwaot7/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on August 29, 2014, 10:57:33 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post these pictures. The colors used on the first set are strange, Peter Pain looks awful. Are these desirable amongst many of the forum members? Just out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 30, 2014, 04:22:05 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post these pictures. The colors used on the first set are strange, Peter Pain looks awful. Are these desirable amongst many of the forum members? Just out of curiosity.

Some people only collect licensed items, but I wouldn't mind having a set (at a reasonable price).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 30, 2014, 05:47:24 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post these pictures. The colors used on the first set are strange, Peter Pain looks awful. Are these desirable amongst many of the forum members? Just out of curiosity.

I doubt they are desirable by many anywhere. I collect all types of product parody items so have picked these up over the years. You used to see them selling so cheaply because few were interested in them and someone had a large supply. As you noted. the quality is terrible on these things. They used simple 3 color printing (blue, yellow and red) with little, if any, blending of colors and with obviously little attention to quality. I don't have any documentation to back this up other than anecdotal evidence, but I think the first set of these, that are definitely WP rip-offs, sold okay for a few pennies each, at the Nadel and Sons toy and hobby stores around NY but then they were hit with a C&D order. This prompted the 2nd set of non-WP titles. Looks like this company was established around 1940 and is still in business with approx. 12 employees. Looks like they still recently dabbled in vinyl items from Taiwan like this inflatable monster head:

(http://s12.postimg.org/af4taypmh/monster_head.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/af4taypmh/)


My experience is that many of the forum members appear to collect only true Wacky Package items. There are a few of us that venture into other parody sets. I know one other member who collects almost any parody item, as long as it is flat and can be stored in a binder so they stay clear of the Fleer candy cans and like items. I have many of the good, the bad and the ugly. I guess sets like this are the SHARKNADO in my collection.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 30, 2014, 06:46:16 AM

Looks like this company was established around 1940 and is still in business with approx. 12 employees.


Wow, they are bigger than Topps!                                             :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: koduck on August 30, 2014, 07:33:59 AM
These "puffy" magnets were made in Taiwan for Nadel and Sons Toy Corp. of NYC

Here is a better scan of the titles that come from the box on eBay:

(http://s15.postimg.org/vpipl3e3b/Puffy_magnet_set_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vpipl3e3b/)

There is also a 2nd set of these:

(http://s27.postimg.org/qet0yq8qn/Puffy_magnet_set_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qet0yq8qn/)

The 2nd set came in the following box:



(http://s1.postimg.org/7bpbwaot7/Puffy_magnet_set_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7bpbwaot7/)


These are so bad, they're good!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 30, 2014, 08:03:57 AM
These are so bad, they're good!

Yep - there's a cheesiness factor that just grabs me!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on August 30, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
Sarcasm is lost on some people. I wrote to the eBay auction owner:

ME:  "I have a couple boxes of these non-licensed knock-offs from the late '70s. This is not a Topps item. Would you like to purchase mine for $500 per box?" My subtle attempt to refute their "One-of-a-KiND" claim and perhaps suggest the price was outlandish.

THEM: "No
But you can buy mine if you want it. I know it is not Put out by Topps, just think someone might want to add it to their collection." 
I have one of the "One of a kind boxes" as well.  I think i paid $40 for it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on August 30, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
My experience is that many of the forum members appear to collect only true Wacky Package items. There are a few of us that venture into other parody sets. I know one other member who collects almost any parody item, as long as it is flat and can be stored in a binder so they stay clear of the Fleer candy cans and like items. I have many of the good, the bad and the ugly. I guess sets like this are the SHARKNADO in my collection.

LOL, good comparison. I haven't been able to make myself watch that movie. I've seen clips. >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on August 31, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
I have a "One of a Kind" Ex-Wife I am willing to part with for a Ratz Cracker Die Cut PSA7 or better!?!?!?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 31, 2014, 09:21:06 AM
I have a "One of a Kind" Ex-Wife I am willing to part with for a Ratz Cracker Die Cut PSA7 or better!?!?!?

punched or unpunched?  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 31, 2014, 12:54:49 PM
punched or unpunched?  ;)
You referring to the card or the ex-wife? :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 31, 2014, 01:07:27 PM
You referring to the card or the ex-wife? :o

The ambiguity was kinda the joke   >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on August 31, 2014, 03:40:49 PM
As long as you take her...... it could be a magnet!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on September 30, 2014, 07:45:14 PM
This is one of the saddest auctions I've come across in some time. I'm glad the seller took the time to place this gem of a sticker in a sleeve. If I ened up buying it, I will insist on it being shipped in a padded nevelope.  :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/odder-odd-rods-trading-cards-speed-sicle-/141424642785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20ed90cae1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 01, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
This is one of the saddest auctions I've come across in some time. I'm glad the seller took the time to place this gem of a sticker in a sleeve. If I ened up buying it, I will insist on it being shipped in a padded nevelope.  :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/odder-odd-rods-trading-cards-speed-sicle-/141424642785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20ed90cae1

It does have $4 economy shipping though...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 01, 2014, 10:11:25 AM
It does have $4 economy shipping though...LOL

I wonder what it will cost for the life-support that sticker will need during shipping transport.    :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on October 01, 2014, 10:47:10 AM
First time I've seen a $1 "or best offer" auction!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 02, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
You referring to the card or the ex-wife? :o

that's great dude!! Funny- some people on here are such stiffs-er

going to the Oct Show?? :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on October 02, 2014, 11:05:27 AM

going to the Oct Show?? :-\ :-\ :-\

Didn't you hear?   >:D  ;D :-X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 02, 2014, 12:31:32 PM

that's great dude!! Funny- some people on here are such stiffs-er


You mean Stiffords?                                                    :-[
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 23, 2014, 07:08:06 PM
What is this person talking about?  She is asking $100 for a damaged pretty much worthless sticker? Her store is almost all wackys, so she can't claim ignorance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/73-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-WB-MADDIE-BOY-RARE-ODDIE-BOY-VERSION-/321538088533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4add29de55

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 23, 2014, 07:17:34 PM
What is this person talking about?  She is asking $100 for a damaged pretty much worthless sticker? Her store is almost all wackys, so she can't claim ignorance.
I stopped reading as soon as I saw the @@ symbols - a clear sign to stay as far away as possible.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 23, 2014, 07:21:35 PM
I stopped reading as soon as I saw the @@ symbols - a clear sign to stay as far away as possible.


Just what is the Oddie  Boy version? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 23, 2014, 07:34:53 PM
Some shading is missing for one of the cards on some sheets. Actual value is in the eye of the beer holder.

http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/1st-series/1st-series-Maddie-Boy-variation.htm
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 23, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
What is this person talking about?  She is asking $100 for a damaged pretty much worthless sticker? Her store is almost all wackys, so she can't claim ignorance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/73-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-WB-MADDIE-BOY-RARE-ODDIE-BOY-VERSION-/321538088533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4add29de55

How do you this person is female?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 24, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
How do you this person is female?

sold to her b4 - she is...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 29, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
If this is not the best example of wishful thinking... :]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Pack-Vintage-Stickers-394-Stickers-/321601493268?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

I took the time to write the seller (apparently I have a lot of spare time on my hands) and explained as best I could why their auction would be lucky to generate 1/10th the asking price. I am not expecting a reply.

Gary
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on November 29, 2014, 09:15:31 AM
WOW!!! Jusssst WOW!!!!  :-X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on November 29, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
If this is not the best example of wishful thinking... :]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Pack-Vintage-Stickers-394-Stickers-/321601493268?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

I took the time to write the seller (apparently I have a lot of spare time on my hands) and explained as best I could why their auction would be lucky to generate 1/10th the asking price. I am not expecting a reply.

Gary

Offer the seller $39.40.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 19, 2014, 04:18:13 AM
Can anyone shed any light on what in this lot of wrappers is valuable? I'm scratching my head....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-LOT-20-VINTAGE-GUM-CARD-WRAPPERS-TOPPS-DONRUSS-FLEER-SCANLENS-SWELL-/111504089864
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 19, 2014, 04:30:44 AM
Can anyone shed any light on what in this lot of wrappers is valuable? I'm scratching my head....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-LOT-20-VINTAGE-GUM-CARD-WRAPPERS-TOPPS-DONRUSS-FLEER-SCANLENS-SWELL-/111504089864

The Scanlens Super Stickers wrapper.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 20, 2014, 12:49:14 PM
$1625 - SOLD!!! - LMBO! really!!! :-X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 20, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
$1625 - SOLD!!! - LMBO! really!!! :-X

Well, we all have our holy grail we are on the outlook for. Looks like someone found theirs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: moron_chicken on December 31, 2014, 06:26:27 AM
This is a good deal.  Hurry before you miss it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-54-Stickerbacks-28-with-outline-EX-to-NM-condition-/131391865562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9790c2da

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 31, 2014, 09:45:02 AM
This is a good deal.  Hurry before you miss it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-54-Stickerbacks-28-with-outline-EX-to-NM-condition-/131391865562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e9790c2da
LOL!! This guy is nuts. Maybe I should pick them up for spare parts...ya never know when I'll be needing a border. And, they DO have sharp corners. What I don't use for spare parts, I'll have graded.

Wow.   :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 31, 2014, 10:02:33 AM
LOL!! This guy is nuts. Maybe I should pick them up for spare parts...ya never know when I'll be needing a border. And, they DO have sharp corners. What I don't use for spare parts, I'll have graded.

Wow.   :o

Yep, get a complete set of PSA 0's, and record them on the PSA registry...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 31, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
one way to fix all those borderless mint stickers that are always on eBay and make them whole again...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 11, 2015, 09:25:36 AM
the decimal place seems to be way off with the price on this one eBay auction: #281559691262


"going cheap!"   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 11, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
the decimal place seems to be way off with the price on this one eBay auction: #281559691262

Agree.  It should be moved at least two spaces to the left.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on January 11, 2015, 05:40:51 PM
the decimal place seems to be way off with the price on this one eBay auction: #281559691262


"going cheap!"   ;D

I think that everyone is missing the significance of this rare find ~ This sheet clearly shows which three titles were pulled from the 1st Series Reissue set (which obviously makes those three stickers VHTF and valuable!)  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on January 12, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
But it is in "acceptable" condition!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 11, 2015, 04:45:37 PM
probably trolling for even ¼ of what they're asking, but doubt anyone would pay 1/10th

eBay auction: #121567654136
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 13, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
"card is in very good condition with no creases and four good corners. The card is off centered."

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTU4WDM5MA==/z/ZBUAAOSwNSxUy2~U/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on February 14, 2015, 01:59:53 PM
"card is in very good condition with no creases and four good corners. The card is off centered."

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTU4WDM5MA==/z/ZBUAAOSwNSxUy2~U/$_12.JPG)

I actually find that kind of interesting.  It looks like the diecut is in the right place on the card but the image is shifted way off to the right.  Unless this is actually a re-stick, it would imply that there could have been a whole sheet printed like that.

Kind of reminds of this diecut error I used to have.  I always have wondered if there are other diecuts out there from the same sheet?

(http://s18.postimg.org/rph17n051/03_VICEJOY.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rph17n051/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 17, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
OK, I didn't know that Stevie Wonder had a part time job at PSA...

Does this really look like it should earn a PSA 6? Between the corners and staining, really? or am I outta line here?

eBay auction: #171722535724
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 18, 2015, 12:35:34 PM
I would agree Tom. And to think, If it got a 6 ,that means at least 2 different people thought so.   :o  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 30, 2015, 07:39:01 AM
Not sure if this seller is nuts, wanting 5-6K for this auction. Even with the two big boys, their condition is not very good. But I don't know what their value is...

I like the line in the description, "They may or may not all have some wear from use or storage."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-1960S-LOT-with-ULTRA-RARE-RATZ-CRACKERS-CRACKED-ANIMALS-CARDS/381206673657?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D96d861fd4d7f4a7dbb5e63860fc84abd%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D261815309041#viTabs_0

 (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Cracked_zpswumxlv7g.jpg)


 (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Ratz_zpslwg0pory.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on March 30, 2015, 09:46:28 AM
Not sure if this seller is nuts, wanting 5-6K for this auction. Even with the two big boys, their condition is not very good. But I don't know what their value is...

That lot is worth $2400 - $2800 IMHO
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 30, 2015, 03:33:39 PM
That lot is worth $2400 - $2800 IMHO
Yes, the two biggies are here, but not so good condition. All of them have lousy corners, off center, creases, wear, etc. When I looked it over, I thought, at best, $2000 for it all. And even that might be generous...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 30, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
This looks overpriced to me, also. It's not a full set, only has the "easy" part of the puzzle, and condition is not so great for what you usually find these in...though the description calls them "high grade". Um, NOT.

eBay auction: #131471718980

He does have a decent die-cut set, which I think is nicer: eBay auction: #131471711473
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 30, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
Even in NM with full puzzle, 16th should be $1500 tops.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 31, 2015, 01:31:45 AM
Yes, the two biggies are here, but not so good condition. All of them have lousy corners, off center, creases, wear, etc. When I looked it over, I thought, at best, $2000 for it all. And even that might be generous...

I asked, and the Jolly Mean is #43.  That one looks like it was folded in half.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on March 31, 2015, 07:05:40 AM
This looks overpriced to me, also. It's not a full set, only has the "easy" part of the puzzle, and condition is not so great for what you usually find these in...though the description calls them "high grade". Um, NOT.

eBay auction: #131471718980

He does have a decent die-cut set, which I think is nicer: eBay auction: #131471711473

$30 shipping on the die-cut set??? is it in a GOLD Box?? crazy wacky!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 31, 2015, 02:23:28 PM
$30 shipping on the die-cut set??? is it in a GOLD Box?? crazy wacky!!!!
Probably to cover the insurance he thinks it'll need since it'll sell for $5K or more. Yeah...OK.  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 31, 2015, 02:27:00 PM
I asked, and the Jolly Mean is #43.  That one looks like it was folded in half.
So, does that make it a Jolly Mean #21.5?    ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 31, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
Probably to cover the insurance he thinks it'll need since it'll sell for $5K or more. Yeah...OK.  LOL

The die cut shipping is free.  It's the 16th set that has $30 shipping.

Just remember on the die cut set, ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU BID, NOT AFTER YOU BID OR WIN. PLEASE ASK BEFORE YOU BID, NOT AFTER YOU BID OR WIN.  Also, Your shipping charges will be discounted if you win more than one of my auctions. No local pick-ups, everyone pays shipping charges. 

I'm not sure how much more he can discount free shipping -- every one of his listings has free shipping.  Maybe he'll throw in the Donny & Marie necklaces (4) different heart & horn etc. 1977 MIB.  Oh darn, he can't, they've already got 4 bids on them -- albeit all by the same person.  I guess they really want those Donny & Marie necklaces.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 05, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
Someone - grab this great deal on a wacky patches box before it's gone! ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Display-Box-patches-old-store-stock-RARE-/271829853003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4a52634b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ruffs on April 05, 2015, 01:35:13 PM
Someone - grab this great deal on a wacky patches box before it's gone! ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Display-Box-patches-old-store-stock-RARE-/271829853003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4a52634b
I'll take 2
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Joe G. on April 13, 2015, 02:34:55 PM
Missed it by that much.  Just sold on eBay.

(http://s16.postimg.org/6fkd4195d/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6fkd4195d/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Lavirus on April 13, 2015, 03:44:20 PM
Oh, that bites! I don't scan for incorrect/incomplete listings like that, probably should!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on April 13, 2015, 09:49:21 PM
I did read his description, it does say he uses stock photos.  If he ships you a normal one he is totally legal. (Dickish move but legal)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 13, 2015, 12:39:33 PM
Am I nuts?  The black border looks like Weakies, not Ratz.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351425038993?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://s13.postimg.org/vw9lnlcjn/Ratz.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vw9lnlcjn/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 13, 2015, 01:46:24 PM
looks like someone did a nice job of putting a Ratz sticker on top of a #32 Weakies to me.
border blackness inside vs outside the die-cut line don't match

possibly a real borderless Ratz was peeled down to a thin layer and glued on? or else a photo copy? colors aren't as vibrant as a Flashback


(http://s10.postimg.org/lrh3k4c5h/5612402140_181549aaa8_b.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lrh3k4c5h/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 13, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
Am I nuts?  The black border looks like Weakies, not Ratz.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351425038993?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://s13.postimg.cc/vw9lnlcjn/Ratz.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/vw9lnlcjn/)
I think you're right...and it looks like a legit copy of the sticker. (Patrick: It doesn't have a Weakies die cut shape, neither front nor back.) How strange! The die-cut seems ok. Maybe there was a version of the sheet with an outline error (like they were going to print a Weakies in the spot, but still were printing Ratz)?

The worst part of this find: THERE'S A RATZ VARIATION!  ARGH!!!    >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 13, 2015, 02:14:00 PM
I think you're right...and it looks like a legit copy of the sticker. (Patrick: It doesn't have a Weakies die cut shape, neither front nor back.) How strange! The die-cut seems ok. Maybe there was a version of the sheet with an outline error (like they were going to print a Weakies in the spot, but still were printing Ratz)?

The worst part of this find: THERE'S A RATZ VARIATION!  ARGH!!!    >(
I still don't think so

#32 Weakies has a Ratz die-cut, not a Weakies die-cut, despite having a Weakies black border


(http://s4.postimg.org/40ockeixl/weakies_32.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/40ockeixl/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 14, 2015, 06:02:02 AM
I still don't think so

#32 Weakies has a Ratz die-cut, not a Weakies die-cut, despite having a Weakies black border

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/die-cuts/fronts/weakies_32_front_small_smaller_images.jpg)

That's what bothered me as well.  I had been considering making an offer, but something just seemed off, and that was what was nagging at the back of my head.  Think I'll stick with my punched Ratz for now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 15, 2015, 07:58:38 PM
so who bought that one-of-a-kind, never before seen Weakies variation version of Ratz?

auction was abruptly pulled last night.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 16, 2015, 03:18:40 AM
so who bought that one-of-a-kind, never before seen Weakies variation version of Ratz?

auction was abrutly pulled last night.

Not me.  I would have had to see that in person.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Monsterettes on June 23, 2015, 02:52:01 PM
Did anybody get a screen grab of that?  Now I'm curious.   :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 23, 2015, 03:37:16 PM
Did anybody get a screen grab of that?  Now I'm curious.   :^)
Pat posted one of the shots on the previous page. The auction link is still populated with images as well.

here's the second shot of the front of the card

note the top and bottom right corners of the Ratz card are touched, which is something I've never seen in real card before.


(http://s17.postimg.org/rrufzj1y3/Ratz2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rrufzj1y3/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Monsterettes on June 23, 2015, 03:48:24 PM
Pat posted one of the shots on the previous page. The auction link is still populated with images as well.

here's the second shot of the front of the card

note the top and bottom right corners of the Ratz card are touched, which is something I've never seen in real card before.


(http://s17.postimg.org/rrufzj1y3/Ratz2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rrufzj1y3/)
Right...  Somehow I was thinking it was something different -- a wacky / ratz mashup in a 2015 logo or relic card.  I gotta pay more attention!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 11, 2015, 08:11:55 PM
Maybe. It for this topic but here is a whole lot for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-lot-Wiggly-Packages-Pestcards-Snot-Wheels-58-81-/252054292398?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5335822226%2526customid%253DiA14693%2526toolid%253D10013%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F2015-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-lot-Wiggly-Packages-Pestcards-Snot-Wheels-58-81-%25252F252054292398%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D883224273833
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 11, 2015, 09:08:56 PM
Maybe. It for this topic but here is a whole lot for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-lot-Wiggly-Packages-Pestcards-Snot-Wheels-58-81-/252054292398?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5335822226%2526customid%253DiA14693%2526toolid%253D10013%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F2015-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-lot-Wiggly-Packages-Pestcards-Snot-Wheels-58-81-%25252F252054292398%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D883224273833

I would not have the patience or finger dexterity to type in that eBay user name each time I logged in... "cardsshippedinwhiteenvelopesnbubblemailers"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 12, 2015, 04:47:55 PM
I would not have the patience or finger dexterity to type in that eBay user name each time I logged in... "cardsshippedinwhiteenvelopesnbubblemailers"
LOL. didn't notice that name. that's crazy.

here's a fun one
I see a bandache, so it must be worth a fortune!
eBay auction: #181829277185

(http://s3.postimg.org/5ymyl72rn/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 12, 2015, 05:43:05 PM
I see a bandache, so it must be worth a fortune!
Unreal. Actually, the Run Tony probably is what puts it over the top, value-wise.   :]

"I contemplated removing the stickers but in the end realized that decision should best be made by its new future owner."
I think the seller's making way too many assumptions, like there actually WILL be a new future owner.     :D

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 12, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
I would not have the patience or finger dexterity to type in that eBay user name each time I logged in... "cardsshippedinwhiteenvelopesnbubblemailers"
I believe they have a sister account: "ebaymoronwithridiculouslylongusernames".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 13, 2015, 10:57:13 AM
Hmmmm. IMO, this seems overpriced even if it were PSA 7. eBay auction: #281772211124
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 13, 2015, 11:06:02 AM
Hmmmm. IMO, this seems overpriced even if it were PSA 7. eBay auction: #281772211124

A PSA 5 sold in 2011 for $61.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 13, 2015, 11:16:01 AM
Hmmmm. IMO, this seems overpriced even if it were PSA 7. eBay auction: #281772211124

Agree, but how about this claim of "Topps factory sealed" on a $5 sketch card???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Sketch-Card-Lucky-Germs-Signed-By-Artist-Factory-Sealed-Topps-/321831793931?hash=item4aeeab750b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 13, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
Agree, but how about this claim of "Topps factory sealed" on a $5 sketch card???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Sketch-Card-Lucky-Germs-Signed-By-Artist-Factory-Sealed-Topps-/321831793931?hash=item4aeeab750b
could be a replacement item? or maybe one of the back-of-the-wrapper giveaway contest wins?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 13, 2015, 06:06:19 PM
A PSA 5 sold in 2011 for $61.
Black Lud?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 23, 2015, 05:57:23 PM
Didn't want to start a new topic for this so, I posted it here.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/08/20/1-million-worth-of-collectible-sports-cards-found-in-abandoned-detroit-warehouse/
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on August 23, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
If they know what to look for, there could be some gems in there but the rest can be given away to kids to maybe start collecting
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 28, 2015, 09:24:09 AM
I haven't posted in this thread for a while but I thought this was interesting:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-4-Wacky-Packages-Stffords-Variations-5th-Series-NM-/121734971967?hash=item1c57f8423f

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 28, 2015, 01:59:13 PM
Toning is now a variation! Maybe it's worth a premium!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 28, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Black Lud?

Yes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 28, 2015, 02:05:34 PM
(http://s19.postimg.org/guwqmsyjn/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 29, 2015, 05:52:30 AM
Quote from: bigtomi
Black Lud?
Quote from: Paul_Maul
Yes.
Wow. I know I paid quite a bit more for mine...but it was a while ago.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 31, 2015, 05:23:57 PM
Not really a "nuts" auction, but does anyone else think the value is severely diminished on this with the sleeves cut off?
"Amazing condition with no issues whatsoever". Riiiiight...
eBay auction: #161810833741
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 07, 2015, 09:54:36 AM
Another one who does zero research...
eBay auction: #281793145687
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on September 07, 2015, 10:51:15 AM
Another one who does zero research...
eBay auction: #281793145687
wow that's is hilarious lol. I love to snag the low grade reissue auctions for cheap because I can then use the stickers for fun projects but this guy.....holy cow.
I will PM him an offer of $10 if it does not sell lol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fool-Aid on October 20, 2015, 07:56:30 PM
Wow, 16th series packs are getting pricey.
EBay item no: 351545574934
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on October 20, 2015, 08:18:16 PM
Wow, 16th series packs are getting pricey.
EBay item no: 351545574934

Wow is right! $406. I'm glad I picked mine up a long time ago at about 1/3 the price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-16-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-PSA-16th-SERIES-/351545574934?nma=true&si=8U1wQexMlX0Q6N3i4Sj5y0Gj4QI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on October 20, 2015, 08:24:15 PM
Me too - Makes me want to crack mine open!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 21, 2015, 08:32:08 AM
Makes me think back to that magical day 6 years ago when I picked up three 16th series packs at the Allentown show for $20 apiece. They were probably already worth $150-200 at the time!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 21, 2015, 08:32:26 AM
...and one of them had Scoot NC showing!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 21, 2015, 09:02:12 AM
Makes me think back to that magical day 6 years ago when I picked up three 16th series packs at the Allentown show for $20 apiece. They were probably already worth $150-200 at the time!

I also picked up a pack @ the show last year for $35 - one sticker was Copperbone!! Go Bone!! NRMT condition on all !!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on October 21, 2015, 05:26:20 PM
Me too - Makes me want to crack mine open!!!!

At that price, I think the unopened pack would be worth much more than the stickers in it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 22, 2015, 12:48:30 PM
At that price, I think the unopened pack would be worth much more than the stickers in it.

It sure is worth more sealed if you can get that much for it.  With an Arise showing, you will also have Earth Bum and Sign x in there as well, not really high end titles.  Also, in all of the packs I have opened through the years, there was never a right sided piece in the packs with Arise showing though the back.  So the value opened would be at very best around $200 in todays market, maybe less.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 11, 2015, 07:55:49 PM
OK, I understand this is a fairly decent full 1-16 run, but $12K? I'd say nah...

ebay item #291636868238 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291636868238)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 12, 2015, 02:19:31 PM
$1200 - OK - SOLD! LMBO!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on December 12, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
Makes me think back to that magical day 6 years ago when I picked up three 16th series packs at the Allentown show for $20 apiece. They were probably already worth $150-200 at the time!
When I first re-entered the hobby and attended a few NJ & Philly shows in 1997-98 (they were still held at hotel expo rooms at the time), there was a seller with 14th, 15th and 16th packs for sale, and he had considerable inventory of each.  He charged $5 a pack for 14th and 15th, but only $4 a pack for 16th!!!  Reason he gave was that some of the 16th packs were "miswraps" as he put it, in that they were missing the puzzle piece card.  But if I remember correctly, some of the packs missing the puzzle piece had an extra sticker!  I was focused on the 15th, a sentimental series for me, and only bought a few 16ths, having no clue they were harder to find and would eventually skyrocket in value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on December 13, 2015, 05:19:33 AM
Better get it before it's gone!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Betty-Crooked-Crocker-Sludge-Brick-Mix-/151914168948?hash=item235eca4274:g:kCIAAOSwf-VWbLDZ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on December 13, 2015, 05:20:48 AM
Here's another one for your collection!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Virginia-Slums-Slims-Cigarettes-/151914166652?hash=item235eca397c:g:rz0AAOSwcBhWbK~V
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 13, 2015, 06:23:59 AM
Here's another one for your collection!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Virginia-Slums-Slims-Cigarettes-/151914166652?hash=item235eca397c:g:rz0AAOSwcBhWbK~V

You can "make an offer", but even 1 cent is too high an offer in view of the $3.99 shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 13, 2015, 06:54:02 AM
Common Marc!

The VA Slims is a GEM!!!! Looks like the Artist Signature on the upper right part!!  :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on December 13, 2015, 11:46:59 AM
Better get it before it's gone!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Betty-Crooked-Crocker-Sludge-Brick-Mix-/151914168948?hash=item235eca4274:g:kCIAAOSwf-VWbLDZ
I'm sure this is just someone who found some surviving Wacky relic of their childhood, had no clue there's a whole universe of intact Wacky material out there, and listed this thinking they have something ultra-rare, as if from an archaeological dig.  That's the only explanation that makes sense.  I have a co-worker who found an old marble notebook full of stuck Reissues in his parents' house, and he too thought he was sitting on a small fortune, until I set him straight.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 14, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
They're on sale for $7.99 now!

Here's another person who can't be convinced that PSA mislabeled their Wonder Bread Lavirus as a 1st series tan.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-TAN-POP-3-PSA-7-N1986142-149-/262035927750?hash=item3d028ef2c6:g:uqkAAOSwcdBWSsRK

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-TAN-POP-2-PSA-6-N1986144-147-/361382195246?hash=item54240eb02e:g:jAEAAOSwLzdWSsMj

What's really funny, is that they wrote back with information from this page: http://www.wackypacks.com/stickers/wonderbread/index.html. 

Quote
The first release had 24 titles, all from original series 1-3.
These are easily distinguishable from the originals by the fact that they have different copyrights. Wonderbread stickers all say "Topps Chewing Gum Inc" spelled out, while original 1-3 series stickers have copyright "T.C.G.".

So I wrote back and told them to read the next bullet point, and it explained how Lavirus was in the 2nd release with the same copyright, but the die was cut different.  The auctions are still up as 1st series tans.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 24, 2015, 09:43:30 AM
How about this string of completed auctions with no sales - seems a bit ridiculous:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=wacky+sketch+aquax&_sc=1&_sop=10&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A5095&LH_Complete=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwacky+sketch+aquax+autograph.TRS1&_nkw=wacky+sketch+aquax+autograph&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 25, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Uncle Bum on December 29, 2015, 10:47:05 AM

Here's another person who can't be convinced that PSA mislabeled their Wonder Bread Lavirus as a 1st series tan.


It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

  ~ Mark Twain
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 13, 2016, 03:01:49 PM
17 common posters "Super nice with a LOW price." starting at $1499? and shipping isn't even free? come on, Mr. KooKoo, you can do better than that.

eBay auction: #141874270642
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 13, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
17 common posters "Super nice with a LOW price." starting at $1499? and shipping isn't even free? come on, Mr. KooKoo, you can do better than that.

eBay auction: #141874270642

But the shrink wrapping alone is worth the price of admission.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 13, 2016, 05:24:08 PM
17 common posters "Super nice with a LOW price." starting at $1499? and shipping isn't even free? come on, Mr. KooKoo, you can do better than that.

eBay auction: #141874270642

Now down to $999
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 14, 2016, 12:40:29 AM
But the shrink wrapping alone is worth the price of admission.

Maybe they used Satan Wrap?

Or do you think these are vacuum mounted on acid free foam core boards . . .

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 14, 2016, 03:58:49 PM
Mr. KooKoo
An appropriate eBay name, fer sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 16, 2016, 02:55:40 PM
this one is just slightly painful to look at.

uncut reprint sheet in a frame.  eBay auction: #201501351079
Well, uncut except for the top row which couldn't fit - so it was trimmed off and taped to the back of the frame.

(http://s24.postimg.org/kcrfdayhh/strip.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 16, 2016, 05:57:59 PM
Well, uncut except for the top row which couldn't fit - so it was trimmed off and taped to the back of the frame.
How frickin dumb must one be to do this? "We don't have a frame to fit that Mona dame in. Chop off her head and paste it on the back."   >(  :-\

At least it's a reissue sheet and not an OS one...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jaylynch on January 17, 2016, 02:03:42 AM
I was in the room with Art Spiegelman when he wrote the Virginia Slums gag.  We were working all week to get that series written and roughed out, and Art was working on his book MAUS at the same time.  That ebay Virginia Slums card in the ebay auction above has a little scrawl on the upper right that looks very much like what ultimately became Art's MAUS character (but without the eyes and nose) .   Who knows?  It's in bad condition, yeah.... But it could be an important piece of history.  He was still working on the book when that series came out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 24, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
$900 for 24/44 Die Cuts with none of the rare ones

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-1967-Wacky-Packages-Original-Die-Cut-Partial-Set-24-44-Cards-Jolly-Mean-/131709402422?

Plus $30 to ship.  I think if you're willing to shell out $900, it should ship for free!

He's got another listing of 8 with nothing rare for $250 and the same $30 to ship.  You'd think since this is 1/3 of the 24, he could ship for $10!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131707175751
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on January 24, 2016, 09:32:11 AM
I saw that earlier and just chuckled.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 25, 2016, 02:48:55 PM
Is the seller's handle "Shave My Nuts" ??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BlunderBreadGirl on February 01, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
I honestly can't tell if Jay is kidding. I looked at the VS auction and it looks like someone (probably a girl) took pencil, outlined the border then doodled a heart with scribble under the heart. No?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 26, 2016, 05:39:16 PM
What the heck is this?  There are a few of them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Foney-Ads-Fang-Instant-Breakfast-Drink-69-w-coa-/141972637267?hash=item210e3a8653:g:vaQAAOSw4hdXH4fi
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 26, 2016, 06:18:32 PM
What the heck is this?  There are a few of them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Foney-Ads-Fang-Instant-Breakfast-Drink-69-w-coa-/141972637267?hash=item210e3a8653:g:vaQAAOSw4hdXH4fi
It's a relatively crappy Foney Ad card...which this clueless seller thinks is quite valuable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 26, 2016, 06:20:06 PM
It's a relatively crappy Foney Ad card...which this clueless seller thinks is quite valuable.

The CofA ain't worth squat.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 26, 2016, 06:47:03 PM
It's a relatively crappy Foney Ad card...which this clueless seller thinks is quite valuable.

That's about a $1.50 card, on a good day. I like the FONEY ADS set because of its significance in being a precursor to WACKY PACKAGES, albeit a rough hint of things to come.  These cards are notorious for being off center with color alignment issues. I have never looked for these on eBay since I completed a set about 25 years ago. I can't believe all the PSA graded cards for mostly ridiculous prices on there. Plus, like quas mentioned, the ones with the certificates of authenticity are meaningless. I see one or two near complete sets for about $70... that seems like a reasonable price for this set. I used to but lots of 25 to 40 cards for $10 dollars to piece together a fairly nice set of 72 cards. I used to have 4 or 5 dupes of each title, mostly really off center or with bleeding print. I can guarantee quality control was not on Leaf's mind when these cards were produced. I even had extras that were not cut to the same size as others. I am also highly dubious of the lots where two cards of the same title are being sold as color variations. I think this was attributable to fading and poor original printing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 28, 2016, 03:17:55 PM
Weren't there a handful of back variations on these, or am I confusing them with Fleer's Crazy Labels?

There's a complete set on eBay for $625:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-FONEY-ADS-COMPLETE-72-CARD-SET-LEAF-NMMT-THE-ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACKS/331835855925?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36499%26meid%3D07d1487f92654506b3ca41a7a7bab1a9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D381273746836
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 28, 2016, 06:00:55 PM
Weren't there a handful of back variations on these, or am I confusing them with Fleer's Crazy Labels?
That was Crazy Labels. 8 variations.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 06, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
I guess using scissors to slice the sheet into pieces doesn't count as 'cutting'

Series 4 Uncut Sheet of 66
eBay auction: #301948328670
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on May 07, 2016, 12:59:07 PM
And for only $325? Hmmm.....tempting........................NOT lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on May 17, 2016, 07:48:11 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Lot-Of-Different-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Display-Boxes-More-Sold-As-Is-/111993444253?hash=item1a1354579d:g:lKEAAOSwZJlXMpif

Must be some rare WP stickers & display boxes... and a few other odds and ends

$1,499.95 (FREE SHIPPING!!!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on May 18, 2016, 04:01:20 AM
The guy has been watching to many episodes of Storage Wars lol. High hopes plus zero product knowledge does not a high asking price make......(In my best Yoda voice over".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 21, 2016, 04:44:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Lot-Of-Different-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Display-Boxes-More-Sold-As-Is-/111993444253?hash=item1a1354579d:g:lKEAAOSwZJlXMpif

Must be some rare WP stickers & display boxes... and a few other odds and ends

$1,499.95 (FREE SHIPPING!!!)

But he's got all those ANS 4 albums with the stickers inside!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on May 22, 2016, 03:43:01 AM
BUT BUT BUT ..... hahahahaha - If he had only uncovered the Atari ET Carts buried in the desert!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on May 27, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
2014 WACKY PACKAGES CHROME SERIES 1 AJERX #51 Mint

Didn't know "Mint" was so expensive... Wait a minute is that the opposite of the Mixed Up Artwork super rare special card? You mean the 5 or 6 that I found are SPECIAL? Sweet, I'll sell 4 of them for $40. Anyone interested before they go FAST?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-WACKY-PACKAGES-CHROME-SERIES-1-AJERX-51-Mint-/121999197405?hash=item1c67b804dd:g:ziwAAOSw7ehXSOF3
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 13, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
I'm about ready to jump on this Bum Bums!  :great: :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Bum-Bums-6th-Series-PSA-9-MINT-New-Grade-LOW-POP/391465918198?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D36860%26meid%3D45116dce46394fc8b923c35647b3d122%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D222084716603
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 13, 2016, 11:05:24 AM
I'm about ready to jump on this Bum Bums!  :great: :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Bum-Bums-6th-Series-PSA-9-MINT-New-Grade-LOW-POP/391465918198?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D36860%26meid%3D45116dce46394fc8b923c35647b3d122%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D222084716603

Not if I get to it first!  Man, I'd better hurry..... :iroc:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 13, 2016, 05:42:30 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA This guy is  WHACK!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 14, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
OK, I'm going to post something here...Please, please, please don't fight over it. First come first serve!


Jim


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-RARE-Limited-Edition-Postcards-Series-5-Gaggin-Strips-PSA-9-/201601060450?hash=item2ef05c0e62:g:ZQoAAOSwYmZXF~ng
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 15, 2016, 11:58:40 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-topps-wacky-packs-8-lives-tuna-bones-card-rare-graded-PSA-8-mc-Ludlow-back/191894054493?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D37252%26meid%3De1d3f592f89d4d81abbee012834e2cc2%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D22%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D361589965644

WHAT A GOOD DEAL ON THIS 8 LIVES LUDLOW BACK....
I believe you PSA, someone had one too many bottles of Jack Daniel's that day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 15, 2016, 12:34:59 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-topps-wacky-packs-8-lives-tuna-bones-card-rare-graded-PSA-8-mc-Ludlow-back/191894054493?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D37252%26meid%3De1d3f592f89d4d81abbee012834e2cc2%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D22%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D361589965644

WHAT A GOOD DEAL ON THIS 8 LIVES LUDLOW BACK....
I believe you PSA, someone had one too many bottles of Jack Daniel's that day.

Are you suggesting it's improperly graded? If so, why?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 15, 2016, 02:15:44 PM
Yeah because there's no ludlow back.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 15, 2016, 02:46:57 PM
Yeah because there's no ludlow back.
LOL!!!! PSA is total crap, always has been, always will be...but a great money making scheme nonetheless so I give them credit for milking it for all it is worth!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 15, 2016, 04:40:19 PM
Yeah because there's no ludlow back.

I didn't notice that. Mechanical errors like that happen, it's the seller who is shamefully trying to profit from it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 15, 2016, 04:48:42 PM
I didn't notice that. Mechanical errors like that happen, it's the seller who is shamefully trying to profit from it.

I just informed the seller.  Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 15, 2016, 05:11:05 PM
I just informed the seller.  Let's see what happens.

I guess it's conceivable she doesn't even know what ludlow means, but she seemed informed enough about surrounding issues like population and value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 15, 2016, 06:41:20 PM
I guess it's conceivable she doesn't even know what ludlow means, but she seemed informed enough about surrounding issues like population and value.

Here's the response:

New message from: thebasketlady2 (306Turquoise Star)
The back is tan , not white.I sent this into PSA about a year ago.I was surprised it came back that way but I m not in any rush to regrade it.thanks
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 15, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
Here's the response:

New message from: thebasketlady2 (306Turquoise Star)
The back is tan , not white.I sent this into PSA about a year ago.I was surprised it came back that way but I m not in any rush to regrade it.thanks
???  Does this mean the seller just sent this to PSA and they decided to declare it a Ludlow, not the seller?  That is a very confusing response.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 15, 2016, 08:04:48 PM
I didn't notice that. Mechanical errors like that happen, it's the seller who is shamefully trying to profit from it.
LOL, no wonder I was able to buy that near complete series 2 Ludlow set in Allentown years ago for $90 after you all had looked it over....few ever look at the backs, still bewilders me to this day!  :-[
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 15, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
???  Does this mean the seller just sent this to PSA and they decided to declare it a Ludlow, not the seller?  That is a very confusing response.

PSA uses a pull down menu that contains all the set descriptions. Sometimes they just accidentally select the wrong one.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 15, 2016, 08:24:47 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-topps-wacky-packs-8-lives-tuna-bones-card-rare-graded-PSA-8-mc-Ludlow-back/191894054493?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D37252%26meid%3De1d3f592f89d4d81abbee012834e2cc2%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D22%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D361589965644

WHAT A GOOD DEAL ON THIS 8 LIVES LUDLOW BACK....
I believe you PSA, someone had one too many bottles of Jack Daniel's that day.

Not to burst anyone's bubble but BESIDES this Ludlow back "TheBasketLady" AKA "The Basket Case" also has a "cap'n crud PSA 7 mc tan back series 2" for ONLY 69.99...  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 15, 2016, 08:27:08 PM
PSA uses a pull down menu that contains all the set descriptions. Sometimes they just accidentally select the wrong one.
you are kidding me, right?  This means we can't put any credence into any population reports? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 15, 2016, 08:36:10 PM
you are kidding me, right?  This means we can't put any credence into any population reports?

Such errors are relatively rare, and are almost always corrected, since honest people want an accurate description of their card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 15, 2016, 08:54:54 PM
I have two errors in my PSA cards... One is only a typo online.

Online it's listed as a 1973 TOPPS WACKY PACKS 3RD SERIES SWEAT-HARD SOAP WHITE BACK but it's actually a Tan Back and the actual graded card has it listed as a Tan Back.

I also have a 1979 TOPPS WACKY PACKS REISSUE 37 LAND O QUAKES BUTTER which is listed as 1979 Reissue but is actually 4th **


(https://s32.postimg.org/bs2z917e9/14714180_original.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bs2z917e9/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 15, 2016, 09:12:43 PM
I have two errors in my PSA cards... One is only a typo online.

Online it's listed as a 1973 TOPPS WACKY PACKS 3RD SERIES SWEAT-HARD SOAP WHITE BACK but it's actually a Tan Back and the actual graded card has it listed as a Tan Back.

I also have a 1979 TOPPS WACKY PACKS REISSUE 37 LAND O QUAKES BUTTER which is listed as 1979 Reissue but is actually 4th **


(https://s32.postimg.org/bs2z917e9/14714180_original.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bs2z917e9/)
I am guessing with something as complicated as wacky packages, there are loads of PSA errors.  The fact that you have two mistakes supports my hunch. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 15, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
I've been collecting Wacky's since, well since I was putting all my good stickers on toy chest, bike, notebooks, etc... I have a bunch of WP now that I have recollected over the years but there always seems to be a very subjective grading policy. Working in the printing industry for a number of years and knowing how the cards are printed, converted, handled, etc... I can be pretty good in my grading even without my loupe.

It seems that PSA, whether you are a fan or not, at least seems pretty consistent. Even with the two I have with errors that still only makes up less than 1% although some of the grades I have could swing a point or two.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 15, 2016, 09:41:10 PM
I've been collecting Wacky's since, well since I was putting all my good stickers on toy chest, bike, notebooks, etc... I have a bunch of WP now that I have recollected over the years but there always seems to be a very subjective grading policy. Working in the printing industry for a number of years and knowing how the cards are printed, converted, handled, etc... I can be pretty good in my grading even without my loupe.

It seems that PSA, whether you are a fan or not, at least seems pretty consistent. Even with the two I have with errors that still only makes up less than 1% although some of the grades I have could swing a point or two.
I would expect the grading itself is pretty consistent.  If not, then the company would have to shut down.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 16, 2016, 07:33:57 PM
Crack Kills - Do not use your own product!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on June 20, 2016, 05:54:53 PM
Shrink wrap a series 1 reissue box and it is worth 7 times as much? Wow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-Series-1-Wax-Box-BBCE-Wrapped-/182167631870?hash=item2a6a0977fe:g:O08AAOSwnFZXXHrl
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 20, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
Silly for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 21, 2016, 07:49:59 AM
WOW...

“All cards are in different conditions most have plastic sheet protection.”

Starting at $326.53 with a BIN of $425.00 and only $11.54 Shipping!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/112033848131?hash=item1a15bcdb43:g:H~0AAOSwvg9XaKwb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/112033848131?hash=item1a15bcdb43:g:H~0AAOSwvg9XaKwb)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 21, 2016, 02:55:36 PM
Shrink wrap a series 1 reissue box and it is worth 7 times as much? Wow.

Quote from: eBay seller
Look at pictures and make your own assessment
My assessment: an absurd, f#$%^& rip-off
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 21, 2016, 03:01:26 PM
WOW...

“All cards are in different conditions most have plastic sheet protection.”

Starting at $326.53 with a BIN of $425.00 and only $11.54 Shipping!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/112033848131?hash=item1a15bcdb43:g:H~0AAOSwvg9XaKwb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-packages-/112033848131?hash=item1a15bcdb43:g:H~0AAOSwvg9XaKwb)
I saw this one earlier today. Just another clueless newbie who does no research before asking for a fortune for their pile of gold...or pile of another 4 letter word.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 21, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
I am ONLY willing to Pay $10,000 CASH Only for that beautiful box of Reissues..... hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 21, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
Shrink wrap a series 1 reissue box and it is worth 7 times as much? Wow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-Series-1-Wax-Box-BBCE-Wrapped-/182167631870?hash=item2a6a0977fe:g:O08AAOSwnFZXXHrl

But that's C$999.99, so it's only worth a few cents in US$!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 22, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
Sorry I had to drag you into this Neil.

W.T.F  is this all about???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Mars-Attacks-Occupation-and-Wacky-Packages-Sketch-Card-Art-by-Neil-Camera-/351705028980?hash=item51e340d974:g:cRUAAOSwJQdXCwda

WHO DOES THIS???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mars-Attacks-Occupation-Neil-Camera-Red-Logo-Artist-proof-Sketch-card-Nm-/152117476740?hash=item236ae87d84:g:U04AAOSwuhhXVMRo
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 23, 2016, 01:38:23 AM
Sorry I had to drag you into this Neil.

W.T.F  is this all about???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Mars-Attacks-Occupation-and-Wacky-Packages-Sketch-Card-Art-by-Neil-Camera-/351705028980?hash=item51e340d974:g:cRUAAOSwJQdXCwda

WHO DOES THIS???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mars-Attacks-Occupation-Neil-Camera-Red-Logo-Artist-proof-Sketch-card-Nm-/152117476740?hash=item236ae87d84:g:U04AAOSwuhhXVMRo

Ouch!!  A $200 loss in 2 months........
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 23, 2016, 11:14:41 AM
For the low, low price of $15k (obo)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot-/201609840585?hash=item2ef0e207c9:g:th8AAOSwzJ5XbBIG
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 23, 2016, 11:15:56 AM
Check out this collection, WOW! 330+ cards at over $42 ea...$15,000!!!!
Must be the cream of the crop.
They even went so far as to purchased the hard sleeves, although they haven't gone through the COA process

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot/201609840585 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot/201609840585)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 23, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
For the low, low price of $15k (obo)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot-/201609840585?hash=item2ef0e207c9:g:th8AAOSwzJ5XbBIG

Wow - a bargain, but I'm only going to offer $12K.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on June 23, 2016, 12:00:21 PM
Price is down to a lot more respectable $9500.00.I might have to get in on this!  :]  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 23, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
Quote from: ebay seller
This is not our area of expertise
Really?!?!? Coulda fooled me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 23, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
For the low, low price of $15k (obo)...
just had a $6K reduction.
Shocking no one has snapped this up already!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 23, 2016, 03:45:36 PM
Marc, I will see your 12K and raise you a Pupsi!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 23, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
I find it hard to believe that, "This entire Wacky Packages collection came out of one New England estate!" Am I one of the few "Wacky" ones here that has a couple more than 330?

According to the auction, there is 199 stickers listed and "Also includes 125 puzzle cards/check lists." Last time I added that's 324=199+125 a few short of the magical 330+

hmmm... now I am starting to wonder if maybe I'm just overvaluing this lot.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 27, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
What is with the guy selling photos of wacky packages boxes?  Who would want a photo?  I almost bid on them.  Is there a way to block multiple sellers?  I already have one seller blocked and I can't seem to figure out how to block this guy, I don't ever want to see his auctions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 27, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
What is with the guy selling photos of wacky packages boxes?  Who would want a photo?  I almost bid on them.  Is there a way to block multiple sellers?  I already have one seller blocked and I can't seem to figure out how to block this guy, I don't ever want to see his auctions.
I have him excluded, myself. I think he published a book of display boxes, so wants to recoup something from these photos. Just go to where you'd customize your search and say to exclude and in the seller name list, add his name to the other one. You can separate the names with a space, comma or both.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 28, 2016, 06:30:49 AM
I have him excluded, myself. I think he published a book of display boxes, so wants to recoup something from these photos. Just go to where you'd customize your search and say to exclude and in the seller name list, add his name to the other one. You can separate the names with a space, comma or both.
I could have sworn I have tried that and then it drops the added exclusions, will try again, thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 28, 2016, 08:42:46 AM
So I have sent several inquires into this auction. I got a quick response the first time. Asked about markings on any of the cards. White/tan backs and to send a picture of the backs. They say there is no marking but I have not seen any pictures to prove that and I have asked a couple times since and no answer.

Best quote, "If someone were to grade these cards, it's a small fortune to be made!" really !?!

I'm going to guess not one card is over a 7 on PSA and from all the offsets and bummed corners I see there wouldn't be many if any that hit that high.

Anyone else inquire about this auction?

Check out this collection, WOW! 330+ cards at over $42 ea...$15,000!!!!
Must be the cream of the crop.
They even went so far as to purchased the hard sleeves, although they haven't gone through the COA process

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot/201609840585 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1973-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-and-Puzzle-Cards-330-Huge-Lot/201609840585)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 28, 2016, 10:24:47 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-PSA-NM-7-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-38-Cracked-Animals-RARE-Variation/122027482246?_trksid=p999999.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Db1577c2e85544890b91ef94045a11ac8%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D201609840585

DAN WHY?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 28, 2016, 11:02:20 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-PSA-NM-7-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-38-Cracked-Animals-RARE-Variation/122027482246?_trksid=p999999.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Db1577c2e85544890b91ef94045a11ac8%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D201609840585

DAN WHY?
Isn't this the highest rated Cracked Animals in existence right now?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 28, 2016, 11:03:00 AM
So I have sent several inquires into this auction. I got a quick response the first time. Asked about markings on any of the cards. White/tan backs and to send a picture of the backs. They say there is no marking but I have not seen any pictures to prove that and I have asked a couple times since and no answer.

Best quote, "If someone were to grade these cards, it's a small fortune to be made!" really !?!

I'm going to guess not one card is over a 7 on PSA and from all the offsets and bummed corners I see there wouldn't be many if any that hit that high.

Anyone else inquire about this auction?
Why are you spending any time at all on this auction?  It is a pile of overpriced common cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 28, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
Isn't this the highest rated Cracked Animals in existence right now?

Yeah but Dan hogs all the Cracked Animals.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on June 28, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-PSA-NM-7-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-38-Cracked-Animals-RARE-Variation/122027482246?_trksid=p999999.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Db1577c2e85544890b91ef94045a11ac8%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D201609840585

DAN WHY?

Gotta love the additional $3.99 for shipping.
On a $12,000 card?? Really??????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on June 28, 2016, 11:46:02 AM
Yeah but Dan hogs all the Cracked Animals.
Does he have all of the PSA7 Cracked Animals?  I see he noted in his auction that PSA7 is the top grade so my recollection is correct.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dopey Whip on June 28, 2016, 12:26:41 PM
Why are you spending any time at all on this auction?  It is a pile of overpriced common cards.

When you see something so outlandish, it makes one wonder what's going on in their head... Mind you it has gone from $15,000 to $9,500.

Now I see they posted a pic of the backs which are not in the same order and they seem to have all these "black" smokey/burnt marks... Hmmm $100 ??? too much?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 28, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
It is a pile of overpriced common cards.
I beg to differ! It is a pile of SEVERELY overpriced common cards...obtained at a fire sale, of course, as can be told from the backs. LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 28, 2016, 03:03:36 PM
Gotta love the additional $3.99 for shipping.
Yeah, that's what pushed it out of reach for me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 28, 2016, 03:08:00 PM
Yeah but Dan hogs all the Cracked Animals.
Teach him a lesson and do the Buy It Now! Take it away from him!   :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 28, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
Does he have all of the PSA7 Cracked Animals?  I see he noted in his auction that PSA7 is the top grade so my recollection is correct.

PSA 7 is the highest grade, but there are nine PSA 7s, he does not own all of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 31, 2016, 11:24:29 PM
Price is a little nuts, but a very cool item!



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Vanilla-Cookie-Crisp-Cereal-Box-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Foolball-poster-Flat-/351819236925?hash=item51ea0f863d:g:vjQAAOSw-W5Uy~U1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on September 01, 2016, 10:03:56 AM
Price is a little nuts, but a very cool item!



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Vanilla-Cookie-Crisp-Cereal-Box-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Foolball-poster-Flat-/351819236925?hash=item51ea0f863d:g:vjQAAOSw-W5Uy~U1
Price is a lots nuts which is why this auction has been up for months without selling
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 01, 2016, 10:12:12 AM
What is with the Gubble Bum and Beanut Putter stuff? Is that what gag writers do when they can't think of anything?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on September 01, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
What is with the Gubble Bum and Beanut Putter stuff? Is that what gag writers do when they can't think of anything?
Good points but is this the thread you meant to post this?  There is another thread on gags.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 01, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
I just posted it here because I saw the Gubble Bum on the Foolball box.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on September 01, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Good points but is this the thread you meant to post this?  There is another thread on gags.
Who are you... the thread police????????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 01, 2016, 08:51:23 PM
What is with the Gubble Bum and Beanut Putter stuff? Is that what gag writers do when they can't think of anything?
Never even noticed Gubble Bum before. I am now going back and reading gags and seeing just how awful they are.  There are a few classics but there are a bunch of awful ones, you guys are right.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on September 02, 2016, 07:55:31 AM
Who are you... the thread police????????
Huh?  I thought he made an honest error and didn't see the topic dedicated to bad wacky packages gags which was a relatively new thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on September 04, 2016, 09:28:34 AM
Well, after all it IS Vanilla!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 09, 2016, 08:36:36 AM
Hurry, folks! Grab it as a holiday gift for your favorite Wacky fan! What a deal!

eBay auction: #122260880703
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 09, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
Hurry, folks! Grab it as a holiday gift for your favorite Wacky fan! What a deal!

eBay auction: #122260880703
Yep, some folks are always off by a decimal or two in their pricing 🙃

Speaking of, while not a wacky, this sure is wacky.

https://www.topps.com/collectibles/trading-cards/trading-cards-by-sport/baseball-trading-cards/2016-topps-transcendent-baseball/2016-topps-transcendant-baseball-case.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12-9%2012%20days%20%2B%20More&utm_term=All%20Sports%20and%20Auction
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 09, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
For $1500 couldn't one at least expect Cram to have a border?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 09, 2016, 01:51:12 PM
For $1500 couldn't one at least expect Cram to have a border?
That would push it to $1600.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 09, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
Hurry, folks! Grab it as a holiday gift for your favorite Wacky fan! What a deal!

eBay auction: #122260880703

All I can say is, wow.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 09, 2016, 07:05:12 PM
All I can say is, wow.

I'm seeing $22,000?!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 09, 2016, 08:56:44 PM
Hurry, folks! Grab it as a holiday gift for your favorite Wacky fan! What a deal!

eBay auction: #122260880703
I offered him $1 and asked if he was a buyer for these sets at 10% of his asking price.  All I got was a declined offer with no comments.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 10, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
WOW! BigT!

I am going to place a proxy bid of $9999.81 for this one!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 10, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
Speaking of, while not a wacky, this sure is wacky.

https://www.topps.com/collectibles/trading-cards/trading-cards-by-sport/baseball-trading-cards/2016-topps-transcendent-baseball/2016-topps-transcendant-baseball-case.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12-9%2012%20days%20%2B%20More&utm_term=All%20Sports%20and%20Auction

It's sold out now, so 65 people have more money than they know what to do with.

How many in this forum would be willing to pay $22,000 for a gold wacky packages 50th anniversary set?  Certainly not me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 10, 2016, 10:54:16 AM
It's sold out now, so 65 people have more money than they know what to do with.

How many in this forum would be willing to pay $22,000 for a gold wacky packages 50th anniversary set?  Certainly not me.

What fascinates me is that even if someone has that much money to spend on cards, that they wouldn't rather have an assortment of beautiful PSA 9/10 vintage cards! I guess it takes all kinds.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 10, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
I offered him $1 and asked if he was a buyer for these sets at 10% of his asking price.  All I got was a declined offer with no comments.

I just offered him $2.  Maybe he'll get the message!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 11, 2016, 08:24:56 AM
Marc,

You so funny!!!


Hahahahahahaahahahahaha

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 15, 2016, 08:55:53 AM
Hurry, folks! Grab it as a holiday gift for your favorite Wacky fan! What a deal!

eBay auction: #122260880703

Well after all, it is "ULTRA Rare!" 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on December 15, 2016, 10:04:01 AM
Wait guys... this is the HTF set that includes the checklist that's missing the middle title in the 2nd column AND a borderless Cram Maggie... an opportunity like this only rolls around once or twice a day on eBay!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 15, 2016, 11:08:38 AM
Does that mean his other auction for C19th Rare Tibetan Chinese Linen Thangka Of Amitabha Buddha ~ Make Offer for $3,500 is probably only worth about $50?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 15, 2016, 05:45:06 PM
I just offered him $2.  Maybe he'll get the message!!

I'm crushed.  The seller turned down my offer of $2.   :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 17, 2016, 04:32:21 AM
Maybe I should try $3?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 17, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
Maybe I should try $3?

Please do!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on December 22, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222345843679?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

this seller didn't know this is a sheet of cloth puzzle pieces?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on December 22, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
Good eye Tom! I didn't catch it originally either.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 22, 2016, 10:21:37 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222345843679?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

this seller didn't know this is a sheet of cloth puzzle pieces?

But it's blank on the puzzle side, right?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 31, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
But it's blank on the puzzle side, right?

That seems to be the case.  That makes it a lot less enticing to me.  Seems like an odd item though. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on January 01, 2017, 06:06:46 AM
This is a first I've seen!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1960S-70S-Original-PEACE-SIGN-Wacky-Packages-DECALS-STICKERS-TEENAGERS-DOOR-/262786812327?hash=item3d2f5089a7:g:7EQAAOSw-0xYTg~p
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 01, 2017, 07:17:27 AM
This is a first I've seen!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1960S-70S-Original-PEACE-SIGN-Wacky-Packages-DECALS-STICKERS-TEENAGERS-DOOR-/262786812327?hash=item3d2f5089a7:g:7EQAAOSw-0xYTg~p

If I had stuck a single sticker on a door as a kid, my father would have killed me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 01, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
This is a first I've seen!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1960S-70S-Original-PEACE-SIGN-Wacky-Packages-DECALS-STICKERS-TEENAGERS-DOOR-/262786812327?hash=item3d2f5089a7:g:7EQAAOSw-0xYTg~p

Just a-door-able, but no thanks!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 01, 2017, 08:01:28 AM
Just a-door-able, but no thanks!

Hey, don't knock that auction. On second thought, go ahead.   ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 01, 2017, 08:22:15 AM
Hey, don't knock that auction. On second thought, go ahead.   ;)

Dare we say it is unhinged?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on January 01, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
Dare we say it is unhinged?
Wooden you like to get a handle on it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 02, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
Dr. M. Simon,

You are hysterical!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 02, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
I am board by this auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 02, 2017, 03:36:57 PM
I think you guys nailed this one.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: moron_chicken on January 05, 2017, 11:22:10 AM
Might be able to put together a gem set from this guy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PLAY-DUMB-VG-D02869-/262794196787?hash=item3d2fc13733:g:XjcAAOSw5cNYQkCC
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on January 05, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Might be able to put together a gem set from this guy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PLAY-DUMB-VG-D02869-/262794196787?hash=item3d2fc13733:g:XjcAAOSw5cNYQkCC

Gem minty fresh like and old sock that's been worn all week. Lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JasonLiebig on January 07, 2017, 05:14:52 PM
My brother and I covered our childhood closet doors in Wackys.  At some point.. .maybe when we were moving out (we lived in a mobile home back then), we had to try to peel them all up and off.  It was heartbreaking....  Seeing this makes me especially nostalgic.  What I wouldn't give for a photo of our childhood Wacky-covered doors.  :-)

If I had stuck a single sticker on a door as a kid, my father would have killed me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 08, 2017, 07:58:02 AM
I only need one more card - THAT ONE! To complete series 1-16, each with a crease and / or scratch on them - I am gonna buy this one! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on January 09, 2017, 09:45:08 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222345843679?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

this seller didn't know this is a sheet of cloth puzzle pieces?
I guess this seller finally decided to learn about the items he is selling and now realizes he has a cloth puzzle sheet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322379896749?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 09, 2017, 10:37:30 AM
I guess this seller finally decided to learn about the items he is selling and now realizes he has a cloth puzzle sheet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322379896749?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


The seller is a 20 year hobby veteran who knows what a cloth puzzle is. He handles a lot of items and probably just didn't notice what it was initially, or mistakenly forgot to mention it in the auction. Either way, with a blank front it's more of a production novelty to me anyway, so the cloth aspect's importance is greatly attenuated.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on January 09, 2017, 02:39:36 PM

The seller is a 20 year hobby veteran who knows what a cloth puzzle is. He handles a lot of items and probably just didn't notice what it was initially, or mistakenly forgot to mention it in the auction. Either way, with a blank front it's more of a production novelty to me anyway, so the cloth aspect's importance is greatly attenuated.
Very interesting perspective given that the puzzle side of cloth is not at all different from the regular issue hence a cloth puzzle piece is defined by the words on the back which is what is offered here. Sounds like he is a 20 year veteran of selling in the hobby as I can't imagine a knowledgeable collector would make such a gaffe. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 09, 2017, 02:48:11 PM
Very interesting perspective given that the puzzle side of cloth is not at all different from the regular issue hence a cloth puzzle piece is defined by the words on the back which is what is offered here. Sounds like he is a 20 year veteran of selling in the hobby as I can't imagine a knowledgeable collector would make such a gaffe.

Not everyone has the same radar for detail. People at card shows miss things like this all the time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 09, 2017, 05:14:49 PM
Not everyone has the same radar for detail.
Yeah, like that dope who didn't know what a poster sleeve is.  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 09, 2017, 06:27:28 PM
Yeah, like that dope who didn't know what a poster sleeve is.  :P

A what?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on January 10, 2017, 07:50:40 AM
A what?

I think Tom is talking about this:

(https://s30.postimg.org/65ft3748t/Wacky_test_poster_sleeve.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/65ft3748t/)


Tom, BTW, I searched for & went back to your For Sale thread to look at the original pic from the auction which had the posters & sleeves in it too & the picture is no longer there. Do you still have it to repost?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 10, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
A what?
I'm referring to myself as the dope and the item is this:

(https://s23.postimg.cc/5hqmqhi5z/001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5hqmqhi5z/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 10, 2017, 08:42:31 AM
Tom, BTW, I searched for & went back to your For Sale thread to look at the original pic from the auction which had the posters & sleeves in it too & the picture is no longer there. Do you still have it to repost?
I don't think so. My recollection (and I could be wrong) was that I only posted the pic of the Toadal poster from the auction itself. The other pic showing the sleeve(s) was my own photo.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 10, 2017, 08:56:48 AM
I'm referring to myself as the dope and the item is this:

(https://s23.postimg.org/5hqmqhi5z/001.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5hqmqhi5z/)
I remember that well. You outbid me on the auction and then you almost threw away the wrapper in the trash thinking it was just packing material. Good thing I asked you to post a pic. Oi!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on January 10, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
Not everyone has the same radar for detail. People at card shows miss things like this all the time.
yeah, I could see missing one of this in a pile of checklist but no, I don't see how a 20 year expert can miss this when it is an uncut sheet and the changed tagline stands out like a sore thumb!  If it were only the Mrs. Kleen spelling, then I would see how it could be missed on an uncut sheet.  Is this guy a buddy of yours or something?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on January 10, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
I remember that well. You outbid me on the auction and then you almost threw away the wrapper in the trash thinking it was just packing material. Good thing I asked you to post a pic. Oi!
What exactly is this? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 11, 2017, 02:56:08 PM
you almost threw away the wrapper in the trash thinking it was just packing material. Good thing I asked you to post a pic. Oi!
Yeah, that was huge. A huge save on your part...huge dumbness on mine. Well, maybe ignorance is a better word. LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 11, 2017, 03:07:59 PM
What exactly is this?
The consensus (mainly from Fanatical, myself and Kook) is that it's a clear, plastic sleeve that was used by Topps salespersons to promote the poster series. The auction being referred to contained some posters, most notably a Toadal and Cheapios which were both unfolded, and two of the pictured sleeves, which we believe housed the aforementioned posters at some point. We surmise that the rolled up posters would be in these sleeves to be given out to retailers as samples. To my knowledge, these are the only two known to be in collectors' hands. Not sure I can explain any better or with any more detail than that. Anyone help me or did I pretty much cover it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 11, 2017, 04:36:14 PM
The consensus (mainly from Fanatical, myself and Kook) is that it's a clear, plastic sleeve that was used by Topps salespersons to promote the poster series. The auction being referred to contained some posters, most notably a Toadal and Cheapios which were both unfolded, and two of the pictured sleeves, which we believe housed the aforementioned posters at some point. We surmise that the rolled up posters would be in these sleeves to be given out to retailers as samples. To my knowledge, these are the only two known to be in collectors' hands. Not sure I can explain any better or with any more detail than that. Anyone help me or did I pretty much cover it?

Covered and clear... you know, like a poster sleeve clearly covers a poster.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 11, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
The consensus (mainly from Fanatical, myself and Kook) is that it's a clear, plastic sleeve that was used by Topps salespersons to promote the poster series. The auction being referred to contained some posters, most notably a Toadal and Cheapios which were both unfolded, and two of the pictured sleeves, which we believe housed the aforementioned posters at some point. We surmise that the rolled up posters would be in these sleeves to be given out to retailers as samples. To my knowledge, these are the only two known to be in collectors' hands. Not sure I can explain any better or with any more detail than that. Anyone help me or did I pretty much cover it?
This sounds cool, when did this finding occur?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2017, 12:33:12 AM
This sounds cool, when did this finding occur?

There are posts about it from March of 2014, but I'm not sure when exactly the auction happened.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 12, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
This sounds cool, when did this finding occur?
February of 2013 is when the auction ended and the discussion occurred. After reviewing my records, the auction contained only 3 posters (Toadal, Cheapios and Gadzooka) and the sleeves. The thread of discussion: http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2752.0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 14, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
February of 2013 is when the auction ended and the discussion occurred. After reviewing my records, the auction contained only 3 posters (Toadal, Cheapios and Gadzooka) and the sleeves. The thread of discussion: http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2752.0
I even responded back then, just totally forgot about the find I guess.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 04, 2017, 08:58:12 AM

Is this seller nuts?      $12.95 BIN for a color sketch?


          (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/DrOno_zps2r4wuaiv.png)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-ANS13-SKETCH-DR-ONO-1-1-RARE-/221993295964?hash=item33afd4e05c:g:XeEAAOSwYIhWlVQS
 
They list the artist as "HENDRIX"           >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 04, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
They list the artist as "HENDRIX"           >(
Yeah, Jimi does nice work, eh?   LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 04, 2017, 09:53:11 AM
Try "Chenduz".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ruffs on February 04, 2017, 10:58:12 AM
Yeah, Jimi does nice work, eh?   LOL
I didn't know he drew Wackys back in the '60s
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 04, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
Is this seller nuts?      $12.95 BIN for a color sketch?


          (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/DrOno_zps2r4wuaiv.png)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-ANS13-SKETCH-DR-ONO-1-1-RARE-/221993295964?hash=item33afd4e05c:g:XeEAAOSwYIhWlVQS
 
They list the artist as "HENDRIX"           >(

6 or 7 years ago, it would be scooped up for a grand. So far, still no takers @ $12.95... How things change.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on March 06, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-packages-series-8-Collection-Complete-Super-Rare-/132116803261?hash=item1ec2c66ebd:g:5AUAAOSwTM5YvLn~

Really!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 06, 2017, 05:05:36 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-packages-series-8-Collection-Complete-Super-Rare-/132116803261?hash=item1ec2c66ebd:g:5AUAAOSwTM5YvLn~

Really!!!
Spread out on the floor just 2 foot from their toilet bowl. Nice.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on March 06, 2017, 05:06:53 PM

Really!!!

Hey!  Don't knock it!

The lucky bidder also receives the small, gray chunk of cat litter, mouse dropping, brown piece of cat food, and the sunflower seed resting at the base of the toilet bowl!

So you see, there are actually bargains galore to be found here!  The Wackys are just something thrown in to sweeten the pot a little bit more!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 06, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-packages-series-8-Collection-Complete-Super-Rare-/132116803261?hash=item1ec2c66ebd:g:5AUAAOSwTM5YvLn~

Really!!!

Gotta love the description too:

Released to stores 2011 No Longer Avalible In local Stores Here Is All of s8 enjoy took 3 years to collect with a wopping $125.39 dollars from my savings were gone sitting in a binder in the back of my room I'm not using these so if you were buying this feel lucky that I didn't charge more but if auctioning I'm trying to get a switch if action is over $30 shipping will be on me

If you knew about eBay, why would you spend $125.39 putting together this set?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 06, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
Gotta love the description too:

Released to stores 2011 No Longer Avalible In local Stores Here Is All of s8 enjoy took 3 years to collect with a wopping $125.39 dollars from my savings were gone sitting in a binder in the back of my room I'm not using these so if you were buying this feel lucky that I didn't charge more but if auctioning I'm trying to get a switch if action is over $30 shipping will be on me

If you knew about eBay, why would you spend $125.39 putting together this set?

Clearly, because it's "Super Rare."  8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 06, 2017, 06:22:08 PM
The Wackys are just something thrown in to sweeten the pot a little bit more!
They oughta just throw them in the pot, if you know what I'm sayin' to ya.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on March 07, 2017, 04:40:33 AM
ANS8.... SUPER RARE!!

Wylie Coyote Super Genius
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on March 07, 2017, 12:53:49 PM
ANS8.... SUPER RARE!!

Wylie Coyote Super Genius

Indubitably!  :29:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 07, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
Spread out on the floor just 2 foot from their toilet bowl. Nice.

That picture would keep me from bidding on pretty much anything................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on March 08, 2017, 09:08:11 AM
That picture would keep me from bidding on pretty much anything................
You should have listed your smoke damaged Wackys!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on March 28, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
I is in hurry to sell kards....me take quik scan, me not know much about theze

http://www.ebay.com/itm/84-wacky-packages-cards-come-see-batman-/112350467467?hash=item1a289c158b:g:nDEAAOSwuLZY0Ibs
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on March 28, 2017, 01:39:01 PM
I is in hurry to sell kards....me take quik scan, me not know much about theze

Only $65?  Too good to be true!  Man, you better slap a bid down on these babies right now!

(And what's the deal with "come see batman?")
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 28, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
Only $65?  Too good to be true!  Man, you better slap a bid down on these babies right now!

(And what's the deal with "come see batman?")

I suppose it's a great deal if you're a big fan of heavily off-center Grime cards......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 28, 2017, 08:44:17 PM
Just for laughs, here's the actual description that the seller has for this auction:

"here we have 84 wacky packages 1960s 1970s  8 die-cuts two are 25.00. 6 are 15.00 in the 70s. 3 are rear. 62 are not but I not shore. 9 are puzzle. one is a checklist all are  vg  see pic and good luck  there are 84 in all"

Kids, this is why it's not wise to do dope and post ebay listings at the same time. Remember... drugs are bad, mmmm-kay?!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on March 29, 2017, 08:24:12 AM
Just for laughs, here's the actual description that the seller has for this auction:

"here we have 84 wacky packages 1960s 1970s  8 die-cuts two are 25.00. 6 are 15.00 in the 70s. 3 are rear. 62 are not but I not shore. 9 are puzzle. one is a checklist all are  vg  see pic and good luck  there are 84 in all"

Kids, this is why it's not wise to do dope and post ebay listings at the same time. Remember... drugs are bad, mmmm-kay?!
I love the blurry photo!  Do you think it looked clear to the seller?  At least these aren't on the bathroom floor....we hope!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 29, 2017, 08:36:21 AM

Kids, this is why it's not wise to do dope and post ebay listings at the same time. Remember... drugs are bad, mmmm-kay?!


Yeah kids. Don't be a Stoned Sean!

       (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/SS_zpsp4wf9iwv.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 04, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
check out these sweet vintage stickers from the 80's on this lunchbox! 
no need for a bidding war on this, as there's 2nd lunchbox available as well

eBay auction: #201878657783

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jBAAAOSwax5Yure8/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 04, 2017, 04:12:33 PM
check out these sweet vintage stickers from the 80's on this lunchbox! 
no need for a bidding war on this, as there's 2nd lunchbox available as well

eBay auction: #201878657783

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jBAAAOSwax5Yure8/s-l1600.jpg)

80's - LOL!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 04, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
80's - LOL!!!
Maybe it just feels like 30+ years ago to them......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on April 04, 2017, 06:54:34 PM
They may not be from the 80's... but they are based on real products.. 8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 05, 2017, 10:09:46 AM
Not a "nuts" auction, but someone is finally offering up the oh-so-elusive domino die-cut set:

eBay auction: #162458471536

He has a JM 21 like this, too...it almost makes me want to cry.   :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 05, 2017, 10:30:37 AM
Not a "nuts" auction, but someone is finally offering up the oh-so-elusive domino die-cut set:

eBay auction: #162458471536

He has a JM 21 like this, too...it almost makes me want to cry.   :'(


Is that what you call an unpunched, punched Die Cut set? Gotta wonder what the story is behind that desecration.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on April 05, 2017, 10:42:00 AM

Is that what you call an unpunched, punched Die Cut set? Gotta wonder what the story is behind that desecration.

FINALLY!! All of the letters I sent to Topps over the last 30 years, requesting that they produce a set that I can keep on my key ring and clip to my belt loop, have paid off! :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Joe G. on April 05, 2017, 10:55:20 AM

Is that what you call an unpunched, punched Die Cut set? Gotta wonder what the story is behind that desecration.

Scot, I bet someone in 1967 was testing out their new 3-hole punch.  Although the original hole punch was patented in 1886, I believe a number of new models were released in the mid-sixties.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 05, 2017, 10:59:29 AM
Scot, I bet someone in 1967 was testing out their new 3-hole punch.  Although the original hole punch was patented in 1886, I believe a number of new models were released in the mid-sixties.

Exactly what I was thinking. Seems like we had a single hole punch at home back in the "60s.  I envision something like... Danny's cards get two punches and mine get one.  :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 05, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: sco(o)t
Danny's cards get two punches and mine get one
My bet is this was someone thinking it's the best way to place them in a binder. "Ah, ta hell with the plastic page thingy. Just a punch-punch here and a punch-punch there...and right into my 2-ring it goes".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tom Keen on April 06, 2017, 02:36:11 PM
My bet is this was someone thinking it's the best way to place them in a binder. "Ah, ta hell with the plastic page thingy. Just a punch-punch here and a punch-punch there...and right into my 2-ring it goes".
ha ha, love this one, I totally see someone doing that, punched to put in a binder!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 06, 2017, 05:59:03 PM
ha ha, love this one, I totally see someone doing that, punched to put in a binder!

Good thing there wasn't a Ratz or Cracked Animals in the batch.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 06, 2017, 06:00:35 PM
Good thing there wasn't a Ratz or Cracked Animals in the batch.....
Like I said, he has a JM 21 like this....such a shame.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 06, 2017, 06:01:22 PM
Like I said, he has a JM 21 like this....such a shame.

Yep, it is a crying shame................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 06, 2017, 06:06:08 PM
Yep, it is a crying shame................
You made....me cry...when you punched....that die...and ain't that a shame! My tears fall like rain.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 06, 2017, 06:06:35 PM
Like I said, he has a JM 21 like this....such a shame.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Die-Cut-ULTRA-RARE-VARIANT-21-Jolly-Mean-Giant-Peas-/192148732184?hash=item2cbcf4f918:g:8G4AAOSw~CFY5BkE

And a well centered one at that..........ouch, that is really painful.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 06, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-BRENT-ENGSTROM-Sketch-Armor-/162454836692?hash=item25d31015d4:m:m1Vc-VIOtGAnEgJh7c_6MqA



They just don't give up, Unreal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on April 06, 2017, 08:12:36 PM
You made....me cry...when you punched....that die...and ain't that a shame! My tears fall like rain.

What they did to those die-cuts was a cheap trick...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 03, 2017, 03:21:49 AM
This individual spent nearly $1000 in grading fees to get 3 PSA 8s worth maybe $125...nearly every other card is worth no more than it would have been raw. They even graded a borderless Ultra Blight!

eBay auction: #282453508356
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2017, 05:42:17 AM
This individual spent nearly $1000 in grading fees to get 3 PSA 8s worth maybe $125...nearly every other card is worth no more than it would have been raw. They even graded a borderless Ultra Blight!

eBay auction: #282453508356

Yikes!!  What a waste of money, time, and plastic holders. 

Didn't realize PSA would grade a borderless sticker - surprised it even got a 1.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 03, 2017, 06:26:53 AM
Yikes!!  What a waste of money, time, and plastic holders. 

Didn't realize PSA would grade a borderless sticker - surprised it even got a 1.

WOW! I've never seen a graded borderless before.... definitely a sign of the apocalypse! I guess, for the niche collectors, a complete set of slabbed borderless Wackys would be an accomplishment, as well as a conversation piece!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 03, 2017, 06:40:30 AM
This individual spent nearly $1000 in grading fees to get 3 PSA 8s worth maybe $125...nearly every other card is worth no more than it would have been raw. They even graded a borderless Ultra Blight!

eBay auction: #282453508356
Does make you wonder what influences some people.  At least he isn't really overcharging for the auction.  I figure he is wanting 3 bucks a card which equals 400 and the (3)8's  he is getting his 100 dollar premium.  At least he didn't want his grading fees back.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2017, 03:36:36 PM
WOW! I've never seen a graded borderless before.... definitely a sign of the apocalypse! I guess, for the niche collectors, a complete set of slabbed borderless Wackys would be an accomplishment, as well as a conversation piece!

Easy to accomplish if you just peel off the borders of stickers you have  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 03, 2017, 03:57:17 PM
Easy to accomplish if you just peel off the borders of stickers you have  :P

 >( >( >( >( >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 04, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
WOW! I've never seen a graded borderless before.... definitely a sign of the apocalypse! I guess, for the niche collectors, a complete set of slabbed borderless Wackys would be an accomplishment, as well as a conversation piece!

I think I might buy this and try to resell it.  I could certainly list it as ultra rare and one of a kind...the only graded borderless Wacky in history.  Or maybe the highest graded one as well!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 12, 2017, 11:56:05 AM
Here's one for giggles...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES-/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

Maybe it's just me, but a "complete" set should include the whole puzzle... not just one puzzle/checklist card. On the bright side, the $1,510.00 price tag (includes the $15.00 S&H fee) makes it so that you're only spending a little over $47. per sticker (and card)... every toned, round-edged "NM" sticker!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 12, 2017, 02:32:52 PM
Thanks for the tip, Soremel!  Hot-diggity-dog!  This is just the collection I've been waiting for!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on May 13, 2017, 03:06:29 AM
Here's one for giggles...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES-/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

Maybe it's just me, but a "complete" set should include the whole puzzle... not just one puzzle/checklist card. On the bright side, the $1,510.00 price tag (includes the $15.00 S&H fee) makes it so that you're only spending a little over $47. per sticker (and card)... every toned, round-edged "NM" sticker!
Maybe if you would "Please use the zoom feature to view this fine set", as the seller recommends, you would find a deeper appreciation for this more than reasonably priced NM Rare find.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 13, 2017, 05:00:19 AM
Here's one for giggles...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES-/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

Maybe it's just me, but a "complete" set should include the whole puzzle... not just one puzzle/checklist card. On the bright side, the $1,510.00 price tag (includes the $15.00 S&H fee) makes it so that you're only spending a little over $47. per sticker (and card)... every toned, round-edged "NM" sticker!
Even comes with a borderless Cram! They removed the border to take the headache out of the extremely difficult task of trying to identifying the die-cut variation. Far more presentable this way too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 13, 2017, 05:10:34 AM
Even comes with a borderless Cram! They removed the border to take the headache out of the extremely difficult task of trying to identifying the die-cut variation. Far more presentable this way too!

True! An added side note... not many collectors are aware of the fact that the borderless "Cram Maggie" shown in the photo is actually the prototype border for the 50th Anniversary set. After half a century of rigorous testing and development, the new streamlined borders were unveiled!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 13, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES-/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b
I pointed this auction out back in December. Shocked it still hasn't sold.   :o   :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 13, 2017, 09:50:15 AM
I thought it had been posted before! (I was too lazy to search that far back! LOL!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 13, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
I pointed this auction out back in December. Shocked it still hasn't sold.   :o   :P

You just have to lower your price a bit on this set, Bigtomi (even though it does have the "thin border" prototype.)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 16, 2017, 10:11:09 AM
You might wanna jump on this one while the lower price is in effect! I'm guessing that the high price tag is justified by the fact that this particular sticker was found in one of the smoke stacks depicted in the illustration... complete with Virginia Slums soot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Virginia-Slums-Slims-Cigarettes-/152550496849?hash=item2384b7da51:g:rz0AAOSwcBhWbK~V
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 16, 2017, 10:38:17 AM
You might wanna jump on this one while the lower price is in effect! I'm guessing that the high price tag is justified by the fact that this particular sticker was found in one of the smoke stacks depicted in the illustration... complete with Virginia Slums soot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Virginia-Slums-Slims-Cigarettes-/152550496849?hash=item2384b7da51:g:rz0AAOSwcBhWbK~V

Wow, I wouldn't buy that sticker even if it had been one of my kids that added the additional artwork.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 16, 2017, 02:25:14 PM
You might wanna jump on this one while the lower price is in effect! I'm guessing that the high price tag is justified by the fact that this particular sticker was found in one of the smoke stacks depicted in the illustration... complete with Virginia Slums soot!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-1970s-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Trading-Card-Virginia-Slums-Slims-Cigarettes-/152550496849?hash=item2384b7da51:g:rz0AAOSwcBhWbK~V

This one has been pointed out before, as well, though not by me. About a year and a half ago, Jay commented on it:

I was in the room with Art Spiegelman when he wrote the Virginia Slums gag.  We were working all week to get that series written and roughed out, and Art was working on his book MAUS at the same time.  That ebay Virginia Slums card in the ebay auction above has a little scrawl on the upper right that looks very much like what ultimately became Art's MAUS character (but without the eyes and nose) .   Who knows?  It's in bad condition, yeah.... But it could be an important piece of history.  He was still working on the book when that series came out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 19, 2017, 06:11:39 AM
Only $4000 for 104 Original Series Wacky Packages!!  Some really rare ones like the cloth that have come completely unglued!!  The others are just like the day he bought them!!  A real shoe box find!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262991069921?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 19, 2017, 06:56:36 AM
Only $4000 for 104 Original Series Wacky Packages!!  Some really rare ones like the cloth that have come completely unglued!!  The others are just like the day he bought them!!  A real shoe box find!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262991069921?ul_noapp=true

Totally worth it!! I'd pick it up for the upside-down 6-Urp in the first picture, but the gem of the bunch is the backwards Mrs. Klean...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on May 19, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
Totally worth it!! I'd pick it up for the upside-down 6-Urp in the first picture, but the gem of the bunch is the backwards Mrs. Klean...
Say it ain't so, George. ;D
The super rareness is too overwhelming.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on May 24, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
Only $4000 for 104 Original Series Wacky Packages!!  Some really rare ones like the cloth that have come completely unglued!!  The others are just like the day he bought them!!  A real shoe box find!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262991069921?ul_noapp=true

This has been relisted at $3500.  I checked it out, and now I'm receiving alerts from eBay saying, "Don't let this one get away!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 24, 2017, 07:00:09 PM
This has been relisted at $3500.  I checked it out, and now I'm receiving alerts from eBay saying, "Don't let this one get away!"
I really love the cloth Weakies in the last pic with the super special flex-o border. Just a humdinger!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 28, 2017, 03:27:29 PM
Umm...

eBay auction: #152563285617
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 28, 2017, 03:35:09 PM
Umm...

eBay auction: #152563285617

Have you seen the seller's other slabbed borderless offerings? They have a PSA 8 NM-MT borderless Maddie Boy, if anyone is interested!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on May 28, 2017, 04:30:35 PM
Corner damage is common when peeling off borders.  That might cost a couple of points.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 28, 2017, 04:31:45 PM
Unbelievable!!  How can they even process borderless stickers?  Three more farces added to the population reports............  And, because they are graded, no returns accepted.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 28, 2017, 05:02:37 PM
Unbelievable!!  How can they even process borderless stickers?  Three more farces added to the population reports............  And, because they are graded, no returns accepted.

It's alarming. On the one hand, I understand graders can't all be experts on every issue, but this type of mistake makes a mockery out of the whole process. And they don't seem to have any group learning curve, they keep making the same wonder bread mistakes year after year.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 29, 2017, 06:56:03 AM
Somebody actually bid $9.99 for the borderless Tied "PSA 7."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 29, 2017, 07:02:03 AM
Jim Modico sent two scathing emails to Joe Orlando (PSA's president) about these issues as well as some of the horribly over graded wackys 4SC has listed lately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 29, 2017, 08:19:23 AM
Jim Modico sent two scathing emails to Joe Orlando (PSA's president) about these issues as well as some of the horribly over graded wackys 4SC has listed lately.

4SC?  I looked to see the over-graded items, but don't see ebay items under that ID.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 29, 2017, 08:35:20 AM
4SC?  I looked to see the over-graded items, but don't see ebay items under that ID.

Abbreviation for Four Sharp Corners. One of their PSA 9 beauties already sold, but here's a screenshot. Heavily toned AND miscut.

(https://s19.postimg.org/iddh1zj4z/image.png)

I mean come on...should these two have the same grade?

(https://s19.postimg.org/hcd8cv25f/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 29, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Geez, aside from being toned, it is miscut to the point that there are even the little black marks along the side!!  I would never even consider submitting that to PSA.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 29, 2017, 04:42:34 PM
i guess if you send in enough to them, they will overlook some things :(
 :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 08, 2017, 02:38:02 PM
Is this a shill bidder or someone who just doesn't understand eBay?  23 bids in 3 minutes and then no effort to bid again when the auction ended 23 hours later.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=322537412321&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2765
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 08, 2017, 03:27:05 PM
Is this a shill bidder or someone who just doesn't understand eBay?  23 bids in 3 minutes and then no effort to bid again when the auction ended 23 hours later.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=322537412321&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2765
My guess is the latter.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on June 08, 2017, 03:34:23 PM
this is a no brainer here
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 08, 2017, 04:51:53 PM
Is this a shill bidder or someone who just doesn't understand eBay?  23 bids in 3 minutes and then no effort to bid again when the auction ended 23 hours later.
someone just banging away at the 'increase your bid' button that pops up when you underbid
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on June 08, 2017, 08:51:45 PM
Is this a shill bidder or someone who just doesn't understand eBay?  23 bids in 3 minutes and then no effort to bid again when the auction ended 23 hours later.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=322537412321&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2765

Yes, but they've already made 1248 transactions on eBay before.  You think they would have the hang of it by now.  Perhaps they really wanted this item and took this course of action to as an attempt to scare off other bidders, figuring that if anybody tried to outbid them at the last minute, they'd never get past their 23 bids in 60 seconds - assuming anyone else would bid step-by-step in small increments.  What they didn't figure on, though, was that somebody would just leap right past their highest bid in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 09, 2017, 09:47:36 AM
Yes, but they've already made 1248 transactions on eBay before.  You think they would have the hang of it by now.  Perhaps they really wanted this item and took this course of action to as an attempt to scare off other bidders, figuring that if anybody tried to outbid them at the last minute, they'd never get past their 23 bids in 60 seconds - assuming anyone else would bid step-by-step in small increments.  What they didn't figure on, though, was that somebody would just leap right past their highest bid in one fell swoop.

No, they bid in small increments until they got the high bid.  Their last bid of $51.98 was a dollar higher than the one made about an hour earlier.  Then they didn't bid again in the next 23 hours of the auction.  1) A person who now has 1249 transactions would probably have figured this out by now and 2) Anyone who is eBay savvy could easily look at their bidding pattern and reasonable guess that they bid no higher than $51.98. So anyone who wanted to bid $53.00 or more would easily outbid them in the next 23 hours.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 14, 2017, 05:57:49 PM
one way to try and retire rich

eBay auction: #272715720137
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 14, 2017, 06:35:04 PM
one way to try and retire rich

eBay auction: #272715720137

Let's see, $1,000 at $2.49 per pack, that box must have 400 packs, and shipping is free.  What a deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 14, 2017, 07:47:30 PM
one way to try and retire rich

eBay auction: #272715720137

I think this guy made a simple typo. He has a case of 24 of these same boxes for $1000 obo as well.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 15, 2017, 06:00:18 PM
I think this guy made a simple typo. He has a case of 24 of these same boxes for $1000 obo as well.

IDK, it seems they have a bunch of items at that $1000 price tag. 10+ typos?



Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 18, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
DAMNIT JIM!

I was going to press $4500 at the last second..... I can always focus on a Ratz later in life - THESE ARE A STEAL AT $1000 !

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 20, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
The picture has to be wrong on this auction -- a borderless sticker listed as a PSA 7 NM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112449247206?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Are these people Nuts
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 20, 2017, 08:46:28 PM
The picture has to be wrong on this auction -- a borderless sticker listed as a PSA 7 NM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112449247206?ul_noapp=true

While PSA has recently graded borderless stickers as 7 and 8 (to their everlasting shame) this is probably a case of someone creating an auction using another auction as the template.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 21, 2017, 01:57:44 PM
You don't see something like this all too often but the price is a little ridiculous...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-1967-DIE-CUT-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-PSA-7-NM-ULTRA-RARE/263040034209?_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D03e2b78ab33443b0822074529babe500%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D152587440116&_trkparms=pageci%253Ae6eea3a1-56c3-11e7-89fb-74dbd180f5b8%257Cparentrq%253Acc6fe83b15c0a8878e03e52bfffcad61%257Ciid%253A1

...and why is the link so long?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 21, 2017, 02:03:34 PM
You don't see something like this all too often but the price is a little ridiculous...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-1967-DIE-CUT-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-PSA-7-NM-ULTRA-RARE/263040034209?_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D03e2b78ab33443b0822074529babe500%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D152587440116&_trkparms=pageci%253Ae6eea3a1-56c3-11e7-89fb-74dbd180f5b8%257Cparentrq%253Acc6fe83b15c0a8878e03e52bfffcad61%257Ciid%253A1

...and why is the link so long?

If they are expecting someone to shell out 15K for a trading card, do you want them skimping on the link? No sir, I think not.  But of course, shipping is extra.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 21, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
...and why is the link so long?
It doesn't need to be: eBay auction: #263040034209
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on June 21, 2017, 04:03:10 PM
The picture has to be wrong on this auction -- a borderless sticker listed as a PSA 7 NM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112449247206?ul_noapp=true

When I see a PSA-graded Scoot No-Copy, I check to make sure it has a border.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 21, 2017, 04:35:38 PM
It doesn't need to be: eBay auction: #263040034209

That is a very nice card.  But, a little too rich for my blood, especially right now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 15, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
Perhaps not nuts, but too rich for my blood:  eBay auction: #222579701787   
2013 ANS11  KRAZY CRACKERS patch over $225.00  I should have nabbed one when you could get them for $75 to $100.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on July 16, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
Still one of the tougher cards to get
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on July 29, 2017, 08:08:46 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-1973-1st-series-HORRID-/122609227076?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=adRYAGTC1PxmnI7PPLays66WsPU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Hmmm, all those bids and it didn't even reach $2....and all private bids....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on August 14, 2017, 07:06:57 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-1973-1st-series-HORRID-/122609227076?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=adRYAGTC1PxmnI7PPLays66WsPU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Hmmm, all those bids and it didn't even reach $2....and all private bids....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-LOT-1970S-WACKY-PACKAGES-SINGLES-AND-PUZZLE-CHECK-LIST-SEE-PHOTOS-/292185632670?hash=item44079eef9e:g:RosAAOSwXetZQEyk

Here's a good one.
I believe these are all super rare.
LOL
 Or the seller just added an extra zero.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 14, 2017, 07:14:16 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-LOT-1970S-WACKY-PACKAGES-SINGLES-AND-PUZZLE-CHECK-LIST-SEE-PHOTOS-/292185632670?hash=item44079eef9e:g:RosAAOSwXetZQEyk

Here's a good one.
I believe these are all super rare.
LOL
 Or the seller just added an extra zero.
Lol, plus the way these cards curl, it looks to me like he's got a cut up poster for some of these cards
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 22, 2017, 08:06:30 AM
eBay auction: #302417155225

It's the super rare Totarillo 15th series sticker!!

Don't miss the other 15th, Duxie. Looks like even the super rare 15th titles are knights-move compliant!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on August 22, 2017, 11:22:21 AM
Looks like the decimal point ended up in the wrong place is all.  >:D  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 22, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
Looks like the decimal point ended up in the wrong place is all.  >:D  :o

Not completely true. What is the excuse for it being 15th series??

Also even though it is not nuts, I want to post this so if someone is looking for this they can get it. (Shedd's Bustedfinger)
eBay auction: #322654890673
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 22, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
Also even though it is not nuts, I want to post this so if someone is looking for this they can get it. (Shedd's Bustedfinger)
eBay auction: #322654890673
That description is just a little bit nuts though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 22, 2017, 08:08:58 PM
That description is just a little bit nuts though.

Apparently he did find one...in his box...then he took it out...now he's putting it back...sorry you didn't buy it...it was your last shot
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 29, 2017, 12:47:09 PM
eBay auction: #352153196685
 :sad:   >(   :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 29, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
eBay auction: #352153196685
 :sad:   >(   :-\

There's nothing quite like paying for slabbing to confirm a sticker is in lousy condition.  But I suppose some people like the slabbing despite the lousy condition?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 29, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
His borderless red Lud 8-lives got a $75 bid!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 29, 2017, 03:47:25 PM
It wouldn't surprise me either if these were re-sticks too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 29, 2017, 04:42:04 PM
His borderless red Lud 8-lives got a $75 bid!
but it has decent centering  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on August 29, 2017, 06:30:02 PM
but it has decent centering  :P

That's the advantage of borderless Wackys.  If there's a problem with centering, you can just move it.

Another seller recently advertised a "No-Copyright" Maddie Boy.  Still another had some common cards graded 4 and 5, claiming it was rare to find these cards "in PSA-graded condition."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 29, 2017, 06:40:40 PM
Another seller recently advertised a "No-Copyright" Maddie Boy.
Pretty sure I had a brief conversation with that one. Tried to explain "borderless", but not sure it got through. Didn't think it was such an advanced concept...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 29, 2017, 07:13:12 PM
There's nothing quite like paying for slabbing to confirm a sticker is in lousy condition.  But I suppose some people like the slabbing despite the lousy condition?

I don't understand why PSA even grades borderless stickers   :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 30, 2017, 12:05:02 PM

That's the advantage of borderless Wackys.  If there's a problem with centering, you can just move it.


(https://media.serious.io/c2ab92d74d9d8540/serious.gif)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on September 01, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
I know--incredible, isn't it?

How about this one:  $1,250 for a Series 1 puzzle piece. Even if it is PSA 9.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-GADZOOKA-PUZZLE-PIECE-PSA-9-MINT-C-M-RARE-/352132259783?hash=item51fcb7dfc7:g:rsIAAOSwlcZZg3s3

Imagine a complete puzzle with slabbed pieces.  Not the same, no matter how nice they are.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 01, 2017, 03:44:32 PM
I know--incredible, isn't it?

How about this one:  $1,250 for a Series 1 puzzle piece. Even if it is PSA 9.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-GADZOOKA-PUZZLE-PIECE-PSA-9-MINT-C-M-RARE-/352132259783?hash=item51fcb7dfc7:g:rsIAAOSwlcZZg3s3

Imagine a complete puzzle with slabbed pieces.  Not the same, no matter how nice they are.

Puzzle pieces are the most overpriced PSA wackys on eBay. Believe me they are not selling for a fraction of the prices topcat or nutzaboutcards are asking. There is not a lot of demand for them.
I see PSA 9 15th puzzle pieces being offered for anywhere from $100 to $200 bucks regularly. But when they are actually auctioned, they sell for like $30.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 13, 2017, 03:09:12 AM
Is my mind going, or is this another mislabeled wacky from PSA?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neveready-OPC-1st-Series-PSA-6-EX-MT-Wacky-Packages-/202069868123?hash=item2f0c4d7e5b:g:pNEAAOSw0BdZ0EQ4
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on October 13, 2017, 03:50:52 AM
Is my mind going, or is this another mislabeled wacky from PSA?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neveready-OPC-1st-Series-PSA-6-EX-MT-Wacky-Packages-/202069868123?hash=item2f0c4d7e5b:g:pNEAAOSw0BdZ0EQ4

Should say Series 3, not Series 1.  At least it's not as bad as the graded borderless stickers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 13, 2017, 05:13:58 AM
Should say Series 3, not Series 1.  At least it's not as bad as the graded borderless stickers!

That's an odd type of error. Just checked and Neveready is part of the proper set on the registry, so this must be a flip error that occurs on every graded example of this card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 13, 2017, 05:58:55 AM
That's an odd type of error. Just checked and Neveready is part of the proper set on the registry, so this must be a flip error that occurs on every graded example of this card.

I've never sent anything to PSA, so how does someone get one of these corrected?  Out of curiosity, what was the population in PSA for OPC 1st Series Neveready?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 13, 2017, 07:01:02 AM
I just checked the population report and the OPC stuff is a total disorganized mess. Suffice it to say there are two different flips for Neveready: 3rd series tan and 1st series white, and there are two that have been graded as 1st series.

If anyone collected any of the OPC sets on the registry it would likely all get fixed, but there is not one registered OPC set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 6_Fooey_Ounces on November 07, 2017, 02:47:44 PM
eBay auction: #352153196685
 :sad:   >(   :-\

Looks like he's trying to sell this one again!!

eBay auction: #292321728676

Plus, he's got more "No Copyright" PSA's that just happen to all have Ludlow backs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 08, 2017, 07:36:51 AM
Looks like he's trying to sell this one again!!

eBay auction: #292321728676

Plus, he's got more "No Copyright" PSA's that just happen to all have Ludlow backs.

So, if this one gets a VG-EX 4
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-BOO-HOO-DRINK-RED-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-EX-4-RARE/352204125985?hash=item5201007721:g:r~4AAOSwJIBZy90K

How in the world does one with the border missing get the same grade?

And both of these Putrid's get a 3, and the second one is missing the border!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PUTRID-CAT-CHOW-RED-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-3-RARE/352204126004?hash=item5201007734:g:uc8AAOSw2fxZy9r4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PUTRID-CAT-CHOW-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-3-NO-COPYRT/352204126006?hash=item5201007736:g:nkcAAOSwQttZy-mz

I think PSA is losing a lot of credibility here!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on November 08, 2017, 09:22:00 AM
So, if this one gets a VG-EX 4
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-BOO-HOO-DRINK-RED-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-EX-4-RARE/352204125985?hash=item5201007721:g:r~4AAOSwJIBZy90K

How in the world does one with the border missing get the same grade?

And both of these Putrid's get a 3, and the second one is missing the border!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PUTRID-CAT-CHOW-RED-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-3-RARE/352204126004?hash=item5201007734:g:uc8AAOSw2fxZy9r4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-PUTRID-CAT-CHOW-LUDLOW-BACK-2ND-SERIES-PSA-VG-3-NO-COPYRT/352204126006?hash=item5201007736:g:nkcAAOSwQttZy-mz

I think PSA is losing a lot of credibility here!

Regarding the border-less Putrid's value... it doesn't have a copyright, which makes it even rarer!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 08, 2017, 03:37:23 PM
Regarding the border-less Putrid's value... it doesn't have a copyright, which makes it even rarer!
Oh, stop! You aren't helping!   :P

So, is this the "Pute no-copy" variation?  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on November 09, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
Looks like he's trying to sell this one again!!

eBay auction: #292321728676

Plus, he's got more "No Copyright" PSA's that just happen to all have Ludlow backs.

The Ditch Masters lud has been faithfully relisted each week since.  The relisting fees alone would be more than it's worth.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 15, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
Discuss...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mick4511&hash=item2f11053f15%3Ag%3APSgAAOSwmphaNCLG&item=202149019413&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwacky.TRS0&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 15, 2017, 09:10:32 PM
Discuss...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mick4511&hash=item2f11053f15%3Ag%3APSgAAOSwmphaNCLG&item=202149019413&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwacky.TRS0&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0
Discuss? or Disgust?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 16, 2017, 02:44:27 AM
Discuss...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mick4511&hash=item2f11053f15%3Ag%3APSgAAOSwmphaNCLG&item=202149019413&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwacky.TRS0&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0

I think someone is in for a huge disappointment..........  If they didn't have a good discount on the PSA grading submission, they're already in the hole financially.  And, what's with the strange shading on the scans?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 16, 2017, 02:57:10 AM
Discuss...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mick4511&hash=item2f11053f15%3Ag%3APSgAAOSwmphaNCLG&item=202149019413&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwacky.TRS0&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0

Hey... there's two nice ones in there.

And the 8-Lives is a pretty good price too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 16, 2017, 12:05:40 PM
I think someone is in for a huge disappointment..........  If they didn't have a good discount on the PSA grading submission, they're already in the hole financially.  And, what's with the strange shading on the scans?
The main word which came to mind as I perused these was: clueless. The "shading" on the "scans" is actually neither one, I believe. I think it is the shadow of the person holding the camera as the photo is taken. I've been a victim of this myself; you have to shoot with a flash without light from above and stand a bit back to avoid this effect. Regardless, it looks like some random number generator was used to select prices for them...and why would you even send in that 6-Up to get a 1.5? I think that's the first FR grade I've seen.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 16, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
The main word which came to mind as I perused these was: clueless. The "shading" on the "scans" is actually neither one, I believe. I think it is the shadow of the person holding the camera as the photo is taken. I've been a victim of this myself; you have to shoot with a flash without light from above and stand a bit back to avoid this effect. Regardless, it looks like some random number generator was used to select prices for them...and why would you even send in that 6-Up to get a 1.5? I think that's the first FR grade I've seen.

Hey, that PSA 1.5 FR 6-Up must be a 1 of 1!  Grab it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 16, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
The main word which came to mind as I perused these was: clueless. The "shading" on the "scans" is actually neither one, I believe. I think it is the shadow of the person holding the camera as the photo is taken. I've been a victim of this myself; you have to shoot with a flash without light from above and stand a bit back to avoid this effect. Regardless, it looks like some random number generator was used to select prices for them...and why would you even send in that 6-Up to get a 1.5? I think that's the first FR grade I've seen.

I completely agree on "clueless."  Those weren't worth submitting for grading.

As for the shading, I suspected what you explained.  But, seriously, if you're listing items at those prices (especially the 8-Lives!) shouldn't you check out your pics/scans before posting them, and try to have the best you can get?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on December 16, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
I completely agree on "clueless."  Those weren't worth submitting for grading.

As for the shading, I suspected what you explained.  But, seriously, if you're listing items at those prices (especially the 8-Lives!) shouldn't you check out your pics/scans before posting them, and try to have the best you can get?

He must think 2nd and 1st tans are equally uncommon.

Grave Train is a 3 (MC).  With the no-qualifier option, it's a 1.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 23, 2017, 11:54:36 PM
Did Topps put these out in 2008?

Or is this ass clown just claiming that?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Topps-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-2nd-SERIES-OFFICIAL-BINDER/322951663835?hash=item4b316b50db:g:7EMAAOSwyKxaAkpk
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 24, 2017, 04:50:39 AM
Did Topps put these out in 2008?

Or is this ass clown just claiming that?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Topps-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-2nd-SERIES-OFFICIAL-BINDER/322951663835?hash=item4b316b50db:g:7EMAAOSwyKxaAkpk

Topps did NOT produce these.  I'm surprised they aren't objecting to their name being used in the auction title.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 24, 2017, 05:33:04 AM
Looks like Matt’s just been listing the binders that way and not the cards.
Man, the 3rd binder has been selling for stupid money. $600 for a fan made item?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 24, 2017, 05:49:25 AM
Looks like Matt’s just been listing the binders that way and not the cards.
Man, the 3rd binder has been selling for stupid money. $600 for a fan made item?

It's that completist mentality, I suppose........personally I prefer the padded Old School binders.......speaking of which, where's the OLDS 6 binder??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 24, 2017, 06:16:47 AM
It's that completist mentality, I suppose........personally I prefer the padded Old School binders.......speaking of which, where's the OLDS 6 binder??

I prefer the original, non-padded Lost binders.  I am forever finding dents in my padded binders.   But, really, $600 for a binder that was probably printed a few months ago by a fan who can just order some more from his printer when he runs out??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on December 24, 2017, 06:21:12 AM
It's that completist mentality, I suppose........personally I prefer the padded Old School binders.......speaking of which, where's the OLDS 6 binder??

I agree!

While they're at it, might as well go retro for ANS 1-6, Flashbacks, and Chrome.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 24, 2017, 08:43:28 AM
Looks like Matt’s just been listing the binders that way and not the cards.
Man, the 3rd binder has been selling for stupid money. $600 for a fan made item?

I guess that's what makes the hobby go around...I can't see paying $20 for that binder, yet I'm willing to spend on these, which probably seems foolish to others. Let the free market reign!

(https://s19.postimg.org/57l60t3xv/IMG_1658.jpg)

(https://s19.postimg.org/4i2dom3g3/IMG_1660.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 24, 2017, 09:08:08 AM
I guess that's what makes the hobby go around...I can't see paying $20 for that binder, yet I'm willing to spend on these, which probably seems foolish to others. Let the free market reign!


Those are beautiful!  If you have any hand-me-downs, I'm interested - I have been let down so many times by ebay PSAs that my collecting has slowed to a trickle.

I agree about people having different focuses in their collecting, but these binders are not limited in quantity.  People might pay hundreds of dollars for the NSU binder set, but those were a licensed, limited release, with a finite number of binder sets produced, and there won't be any more ever made.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 28, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
Here we go again!

eBay auction: #362197525542
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 28, 2017, 07:19:31 AM
Here we go again!

eBay auction: #362197525542

Oh my.........  And these royal screw-ups affect all the stats on graded titles.  How could they possibly mistake a NUMBERED and DATED reissue for an original?????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 28, 2017, 09:24:16 AM
Oh my.........  And these royal screw-ups affect all the stats on graded titles.  How could they possibly mistake a NUMBERED and DATED reissue for an original?????

Beyond that, Probstein has already listed it once and had to pull it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Brian Mc on December 28, 2017, 02:26:12 PM
Here we go again!

eBay auction: #362197525542

In fairness, he has it titled and described correctly. He notes that the "PSA flip says 1974, but it's really 1980".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 28, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
In fairness, he has it titled and described correctly. He notes that the "PSA flip says 1974, but it's really 1980".

Good, I didn't read that far. But like Pat says, PSA should be alerted because it throws off the population report, which for a PSA 10 kinda matters....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 28, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
Actually, both the title and description were revised after I posted this, and 70topcat also cancelled his bid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 28, 2017, 04:46:49 PM
Actually, both the title and description were revised after I posted this, and 70topcat also cancelled his bid.

I don't think the clarification/correction was there when I looked earlier, but it's good he did that.  Really though, it should be sent back to PSA for a new ID.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 28, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
I don't think the clarification/correction was there when I looked earlier, but it's good he did that.  Really though, it should be sent back to PSA for a new ID.

Yeah, the problem is probably that even as a 10 it's likely worth only $10 or so, so not really worth it for the owner to bother.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on January 04, 2018, 10:54:51 AM
Here's another person without a clue:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-CAMALS-FULL-SET-1-66-MINT-CONDITION-ULTRA-RARE/253307421474?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39260%26meid%3Dfad1bb4dff334e22916b64cc58e3f171%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D352242963397&_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2018, 11:33:04 AM
Here's another person without a clue:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-CAMALS-FULL-SET-1-66-MINT-CONDITION-ULTRA-RARE/253307421474?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39260%26meid%3Dfad1bb4dff334e22916b64cc58e3f171%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D352242963397&_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048

Wow.   :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 04, 2018, 01:32:21 PM
"There's one born every minute!"
     - P.T. Barnum

Maybe he has some Lost Wacky 3 Notebooks too??!! Haaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaahhahhahhaha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 07, 2018, 01:47:45 PM
eBay auction: #222748564978

Did a three-year-old cut up a sheet?

Look at the other 4th series singles offered by that guy. Insane!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 07, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
Here's another person without a clue:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-CAMALS-FULL-SET-1-66-MINT-CONDITION-ULTRA-RARE/253307421474?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39260%26meid%3Dfad1bb4dff334e22916b64cc58e3f171%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D352242963397&_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048
I sent the following ebay message to them: "Hi. I was wondering how you came to the conclusion that this set is worth this kind of money?"

Their response: "Thank you for reaching out. I was unable to locate another full set like this and found the inviduals were going for $30 or so per card. This being mint and full I decided to list it high with the best offer option to see what people would be will to pay on a true open market such as ebay."

I want to ask where they're seeing reissues selling for $30 each, but I don't think it's worth my time/effort to continue down this path with them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on January 07, 2018, 05:10:13 PM
I sent the following ebay message to them: "Hi. I was wondering how you came to the conclusion that this set is worth this kind of money?"

Their response: "Thank you for reaching out. I was unable to locate another full set like this and found the inviduals were going for $30 or so per card. This being mint and full I decided to list it high with the best offer option to see what people would be will to pay on a true open market such as ebay."

I want to ask where they're seeing reissues selling for $30 each, but I don't think it's worth my time/effort to continue down this path with them.

Ah, there's a simple explanation!  They, too, are probably seeing the same PSA erroneously graded cards that we have been seeing!  Why, it's just amazing what WP are going for these days!

I wonder what his reply would have been if you had questioned him about the set being "Ultra Rare?"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 08, 2018, 03:01:56 PM
I wonder what his reply would have been if you had questioned him about the set being "Ultra Rare?"
But....but....EVERYTHING on ebay is mint and rare and hard to find.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on January 08, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
But....but....EVERYTHING on ebay is mint and rare and hard to find.

Ahhh!  So true, so true!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 6_Fooey_Ounces on February 14, 2018, 01:56:38 PM
Wow.......

eBay auction: #202228758656

A PSA Fair 1.5 for $400.   ?????
At least there is a "Make Offer" button available!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 14, 2018, 03:13:30 PM
Wow.......

eBay auction: #202228758656

A PSA Fair 1.5 for $400.   ?????
At least there is a "Make Offer" button available!!

I offer $4,000.   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 15, 2018, 06:09:28 AM
Wow.......

eBay auction: #202228758656

A PSA Fair 1.5 for $400.   ?????
At least there is a "Make Offer" button available!!

Some people do seem to think a PSA holder makes anything more valuable. In fact, for the majority of cards that grade below PSA 7, the exact opposite is true.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on February 15, 2018, 11:00:36 AM
Not even worth the $7 PSA fee.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 15, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
Some people do seem to think a PSA holder makes anything more valuable. In fact, for the majority of cards that grade below PSA 7, the exact opposite is true.

I am much more forgiving with condition when it comes to Die-cuts and Ads, and if there was a good sale for grading at $5-$7 per card, I might get my raw Die-cuts graded.  But I can't see any of them getting lower than a 4 - I wouldn't even consider bothering with something that is a 1.5, unless it was Ratz, or a Jolly Mean #21, and even then it would be because I think the PSA holders do protect the perfs. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 28, 2018, 10:01:48 AM
Was this one ever posted before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?_trkparms=aid=222007
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 6_Fooey_Ounces on February 28, 2018, 10:12:15 AM
Was this one ever posted before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?_trkparms=aid=222007

Not sure...but...
Only $15 for shipping??  What a bargain!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on February 28, 2018, 12:08:31 PM
Was this one ever posted before?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?_trkparms=aid=222007

Yes it was.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on February 28, 2018, 03:27:54 PM
Not sure...but...
Only $15 for shipping??  What a bargain!!

Dirty cards with rounded, bent corners? I'll take 2 sets at that price please.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 03, 2018, 04:24:34 PM
Is it me, or is shipping a little high on this one?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-COMPLETE-SET-110-PENCIL-SKETCH-DRAWING-CARDS/382274288796?hash=item590152bc9c:g:U2gAAOSwBLlVfhbi
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2018, 04:38:51 PM
Is it me, or is shipping a little high on this one?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-COMPLETE-SET-110-PENCIL-SKETCH-DRAWING-CARDS/382274288796?hash=item590152bc9c:g:U2gAAOSwBLlVfhbi

Am assuming you are being facetious about the shipping, but methinks he misplaced a decimal point in the price........
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 14, 2018, 12:48:24 PM
The ultra rare 10th Series Choke Wagon!

eBay auction: #312133080599
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 14, 2018, 02:28:46 PM
The ultra rare 10th Series Choke Wagon!

eBay auction: #312133080599
Jeff prob saw yer post and fixed it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 14, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Jeff prob saw yer post and fixed it.

Nothing has changed. I was just making a joke because it was put on stock of that era. 'Tis all.
To Jeff: That was not meant to be a rude post if you saw it, just a joke. Wanna see a joke? Look at my Choke Wagon!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 14, 2018, 03:07:17 PM
Nothing has changed. I was just making a joke because it was put on stock of that era. 'Tis all.
To Jeff: That was not meant to be a rude post if you saw it, just a joke. Wanna see a joke? Look at my Choke Wagon!
looks like a 9th series Raggedy Ant for the background
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 30, 2018, 09:08:04 AM
I'm thinking this is a tad high for this, though it does look decent and complete [sans the second 8th series puzzle, not a big deal]. Does anyone know who this is?

eBay auction: #283032051319
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 30, 2018, 07:40:45 PM
I'm thinking this is a tad high for this, though it does look decent and complete [sans the second 8th series puzzle, not a big deal]. Does anyone know who this is?

eBay auction: #283032051319

Not sure, but I imagine it is John Fricke's brother.  I am pretty sure he mentioned at one of the gatherings that he had a brother that was semi into Wacky's, he just wasn't on the forum.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 30, 2018, 08:41:58 PM
Not sure, but I imagine it is John Fricke's brother.  I am pretty sure he mentioned at one of the gatherings that he had a brother that was semi into Wacky's, he just wasn't on the forum.

I don’t think so, John’s last name is spelled Frick (no e) and his brother Tim’s eBay ID was something like “comic crypt” (eBays seller search has been ruined so I can’t find it). Plus I don’t think he lives in MI.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on July 03, 2018, 08:20:41 AM
Get a load of this:
eBay auction: #153084151634
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 03, 2018, 08:47:27 AM
Get a load of this:
eBay auction: #153084151634

"It's got crispy clean corners".

This is why I despise the option to repost your own listing from the description of another. I loathe it. I mean, this isn't the first case. This is discouraging people to do their own research and actually find out what they have. Now, this person thinks they have a $10 diecut, when it is a worthless borderless reissue.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on July 03, 2018, 09:05:05 AM
"It's got crispy clean corners".

This is why I despise the option to repost your own listing from the description of another. I loathe it. I mean, this isn't the first case. This is discouraging people to do their own research and actually find out what they have. Now, this person thinks they have a $10 diecut, when it is a worthless borderless reissue.

Not worth the stamp it would take to mail it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 03, 2018, 03:11:15 PM
Not worth the stamp it would take to mail it!

Nope!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 03, 2018, 04:25:48 PM
All I can see is 1 crisply bent corner.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on July 03, 2018, 07:25:19 PM
I hope no one outbids me on the 1-16!!!!


hAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 22, 2018, 05:20:34 AM
Apparently someone thinks that every Wacky Package sticker should start with a $50 bid.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=nemoaepi&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC2.A0.H0.Xwacky.TRS2.TSS5&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on September 22, 2018, 06:52:30 AM
This is a beautiful card but........

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-9-MONSTERETTES-SKETCH-CARD-by-Brent-Engstrom/173503747244?hash=item2865a114ac:g:oH8AAOSwduxbh24M
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 04, 2018, 03:09:01 PM
Would you send an 80th Anniversary Card Art to PSA?  I would think they would all be 10s.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-80th-Anniversary-Wrapper-Art-41-1975-Bay-City-Rollers-238-PSA-10/132805093667?hash=item1eebcce923:g:UV4AAOSw1tNbtBzS
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on October 30, 2018, 02:32:29 AM
Another one for your consideration:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Series-6-Sneer-TOPPS-Wacky-Packages-Packies-Wackies-Pack-Sticker-Card/202485679287?hash=item2f251644b7:g:YWcAAOSwZ5xbU6Dk:rk:15:pf:0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on October 30, 2018, 02:34:52 AM
And another:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Wacky-Packages-Pack-Iron-Ons-Puzzle-Checklist-Complete-Set/273525749868?hash=item3faf67b86c:g:wpgAAOSwHt1b0g56:rk:134:pf:0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 30, 2018, 02:58:55 AM
And another:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Wacky-Packages-Pack-Iron-Ons-Puzzle-Checklist-Complete-Set/273525749868?hash=item3faf67b86c:g:wpgAAOSwHt1b0g56:rk:134:pf:0

I love this from the description:

May have some unnoticeable scratches on some.

Talk about a disclaimer.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 10, 2018, 08:01:17 PM
Not a Wacky Package, but $2.7 million for a PSA 9 1978 Baseball Card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323465840957

I love the description:
craig reynolds baseball card 1978 graded psa mint 9. Condition is Very Good. Shipped with USPS Retail Ground.

Do they even read what they're writing?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 10, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Not a Wacky Package, but $2.7 million for a PSA 9 1978 Baseball Card?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323465840957

I love the description:
craig reynolds baseball card 1978 graded psa mint 9. Condition is Very Good. Shipped with USPS Retail Ground.

Do they even read what they're writing?


Card is worth about $5.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on November 10, 2018, 10:34:41 PM
But you earn $100 in ebay bucks.  So really you're only paying a mere $2,699,900.  Oh, plus $10 in "Economy" shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on November 11, 2018, 07:37:50 AM
Dr.Simon,

The scratch on the upper-left area must have stopped it from being a 10?

Hahahahahahahhhaahahahhahahahaha

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on November 11, 2018, 08:13:59 AM

Card is worth about $5.

Thanks for confirming what I  thought - wasn't worth sending in even when grading prices were reasonable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CaseyRob on December 11, 2018, 06:53:29 PM
Accidental pubic hair and E. coli no extra charge!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/132116803261
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 11, 2018, 07:43:09 PM
Ugh (retching sound).  They'd have to pay me at least $50 to take that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 12, 2018, 02:52:59 PM
HAHAHAHAHHA Marc S!

You funny!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 14, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
eBay auction: #264041822375

The ultra rare Cap'n Crud tan back!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 14, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
The ultra rare Cap'n Crud tan back!
Why, yes! Especially with the dog-eared corners and lovely crease along the bottom, makes it rather unique!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 27, 2018, 04:17:07 AM
Here's a good one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Card-Band-Ache/352553200736?hash=item5215ceec60:g:4S0AAOSwvdFcIpt1:rk:14:pf:0

Description says:
Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition

It makes me wonder what they would consider Major Wear
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 27, 2018, 05:00:18 AM
Here's a good one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Card-Band-Ache/352553200736?hash=item5215ceec60:g:4S0AAOSwvdFcIpt1:rk:14:pf:0

Description says:
Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition

It makes me wonder what they would consider Major Wear

He's also selling this "Mint 9" card:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Minute-Lice-1st-Series-White-Back-RARE-9-MINT-Card/352553589192?hash=item5215d4d9c8:g:RlwAAOSwBZBcI4ax:rk:20:pf:0

I don't think he's going to get hired by PSA.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 27, 2018, 05:06:46 AM
Here's a good one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Card-Band-Ache/352553200736?hash=item5215ceec60:g:4S0AAOSwvdFcIpt1:rk:14:pf:0

Description says:
Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition

It makes me wonder what they would consider Major Wear

He must know enough to separate the 1st and 16th cards from the lot of 2nd-12th cards. So, pretty disappointing to see someone call this "Good condition." Maybe he's blind?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 27, 2018, 05:22:09 AM
Here's a good one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Card-Band-Ache/352553200736?hash=item5215ceec60:g:4S0AAOSwvdFcIpt1:rk:14:pf:0

Description says:
Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition

It makes me wonder what they would consider Major Wear

That's not even good enough for a magnet!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 27, 2018, 08:32:07 AM
That's not even good enough for a magnet!

Wow!  Should I be asking 1K for a true die cut bandache in Nrmt condition.....  this is too funny!

(https://i.postimg.cc/t7sJYRQP/20181227-110800.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7sJYRQP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5jD0vcbr/20181227-110826.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5jD0vcbr)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 27, 2018, 08:38:16 AM
Wow!  Should I be asking 1K for a true die cut bandache in Nrmt condition.....  this is too funny!

(https://i.postimg.cc/t7sJYRQP/20181227-110800.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7sJYRQP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5jD0vcbr/20181227-110826.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5jD0vcbr)

No, you would only ask $1K for a PSA 9 Band-Ache Die Cut...that would actually sell for more like $1200-$1500 depending on the day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 27, 2018, 08:43:33 AM
No, you would only ask $1K for a PSA 9 Band-Ache Die Cut...that would actually sell for more like $1200-$1500 depending on the day.


Sorry dude!  I was just being facetious....  My set is slab worthy....  but I have just not done it yet
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 27, 2018, 08:49:45 AM

Sorry dude!  I was just being facetious....  My set is slab worthy....  but I have just not done it yet

I am really thinking of sending my set to be graded....  I would expect most to be graded at least a 7 (due to centering) to a strong 9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 27, 2018, 09:12:14 AM
I am really thinking of sending my set to be graded....  I would expect most to be graded at least a 7 (due to centering) to a strong 9

In the wise words of Dave (Paul Maul): If it won’t get an 8 or higher, don’t send it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 27, 2018, 10:03:36 AM

Sorry dude!  I was just being facetious....  My set is slab worthy....  but I have just not done it yet

I know, and that Band-Ache is nice except for the centering. Unfortunately that’s a big part of the grade, but I’d rather have a card that’s a PSA 6 due to the centering then one with a lot of corner wear. Given how long you’ve been around the hobby I can imagine you scoring a beautiful Die Cut set for peanuts way back when.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 27, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
In the wise words of Dave (Paul Maul): If it won’t get an 8 or higher, don’t send it.

Unless it’s a 1952 Mickey Mantle!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 27, 2018, 11:47:23 AM
Unless it’s a 1952 Mickey Mantle!

Yeah or a Honus Wagner... (I don't remember which year the super rare one came out.)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 27, 2018, 02:00:03 PM
I am really thinking of sending my set to be graded....  I would expect most to be graded at least a 7 (due to centering) to a strong 9


Jeff, you probably don’t remember this but I bought a 2nd tan set from you on eBay over a decade ago. Many of my keepers are still from that set including this one. The tan Run Tony still has under ten PSA 8s and only one 9.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TYP3qP8c/0-C8-E4360-56-CF-42-F1-A632-3-CB4857-FC84-A.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 27, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
I know, and that Band-Ache is nice except for the centering. Unfortunately that’s a big part of the grade, but I’d rather have a card that’s a PSA 6 due to the centering then one with a lot of corner wear. Given how long you’ve been around the hobby I can imagine you scoring a beautiful Die Cut set for peanuts way back when.

I have had around 6 sets of dies over the years and I'm down to just my keeper set.  I personally don't like my own collection being slabbed, so will probably never know how they would be graded...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 27, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
Interesting stuff, but off-topic?  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 28, 2018, 07:38:43 AM

Jeff, you probably don’t remember this but I bought a 2nd tan set from you on eBay over a decade ago. Many of my keepers are still from that set including this one. The tan Run Tony still has under ten PSA 8s and no 9s.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TYP3qP8c/0-C8-E4360-56-CF-42-F1-A632-3-CB4857-FC84-A.jpg)

I am glad you enjoyed the set.  Yes, I remember selling it...   8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 31, 2018, 12:30:31 PM
I really don't know if it is more nuts to price this at $12k, or to actually complete the set!

eBay auction: #254022602643
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 31, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
I really don't know if it is more nuts to price this at $12k, or to actually complete the set!

eBay auction: #254022602643

Wow!! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 31, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
I really don't know if it is more nuts to price this at $12k, or to actually complete the set!

eBay auction: #254022602643
Fully justified, because its not just rare, it Super Rare!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on January 01, 2019, 05:19:53 AM
Here's another one for y'all to ponder:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113509452516?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 01, 2019, 07:12:40 AM
Here's another one for y'all to ponder:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113509452516?ul_noapp=true

I don't understand - the only reason to do this would be to try to snooker an uninformed Star Trek fan, and they left out the word "Trek."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 01, 2019, 08:21:28 AM
Wow!!

or how about the ultra rare Original 5th series set for $1495?  It must be the borderless Cram that makes it soo rare LOL   ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3Dd0278e24d6d842c689911cb86c7f2044%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D254022602643%26itm%3D122260880703&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 01, 2019, 10:23:41 AM
Irish Test - Probably worth it - The 5th Series....BWWWAJAJHGAJDGJHDGJAGAJGDJGEJGAJGAJGAHAHAHAAHGHGAJGD
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 04, 2019, 11:51:03 AM
A complete rare 5th Series set for $1,495 in NM condition with peeled corners, etc.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/122260880703?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 04, 2019, 11:54:09 AM
Old School Series 5 PSA 10, only 1 in population - $800!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113509452516?ul_noapp=true

Do you suppose there's only one because the sticker's not worth sending to PSA for grading?


He added a PSA 9, only 1 in population for $500!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113509452101

The only two in the PSA registry for Old School 5 are these two.  It's pretty easy to get a population of 1 when you've got the only two submitted for a sticker that's not worth $2.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2019, 04:03:19 PM
A complete rare 5th Series set for $1,495 in NM condition with peeled corners, etc.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/122260880703?ul_noapp=true

Now that's really nuts!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on January 23, 2019, 04:55:21 PM
Here's a rare deal for all of you Band Ache fans. "Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition."

https://ebay.us/Sbm3gZ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 24, 2019, 11:19:42 AM
Here's a rare deal for all of you Band Ache fans. "Does Have Some Minor Wear But Overall Is In Good Condition."

https://ebay.us/Sbm3gZ

That Wacky needs a Band-Aid for the deep cut and uncontrolled bleeding.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 24, 2019, 06:13:08 PM
Damn Scoot - you stole my words - ahahahahahahhahaha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on January 25, 2019, 09:15:31 AM
Looks like they dug it out of the lint trap of their dryer!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 27, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Original-1st-Series-6UP-sticker-card-NM/264166746092?hash=item3d8190a7ec:g:wZYAAOSwzEVcTgcv
I guess on this one NM stands for NOT MINT.
 ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on January 27, 2019, 06:02:47 PM
I believe you're right!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 30, 2019, 07:31:41 AM
Well, they did add a minus.  I suppose there are only two grades, NM and NM-
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 30, 2019, 08:35:24 AM
That Wacky needs a Band-Aid for the deep cut and uncontrolled bleeding.

That is too funny.  I never tire of seeing the trash that is posted on Ebay.....  here is another one.  The cost of grading and slabbing this trash cost more than this eyesore is worth....  IMHO of course LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Fearstone-Tyres-2-Grade-2-GOOD-Topps-garno-PSA/332996363296?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3De663bbd5bb184b0e98c5703cc49ea34b%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352553200736%26itm%3D332996363296&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 30, 2019, 09:18:54 AM
I guess on this one NM stands for NOT MINT.
or Nasty Mess.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on January 30, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
That is too funny.  I never tire of seeing the trash that is posted on Ebay.....  here is another one.  The cost of grading and slabbing this trash cost more than this eyesore is worth....  IMHO of course LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Fearstone-Tyres-2-Grade-2-GOOD-Topps-garno-PSA/332996363296?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3De663bbd5bb184b0e98c5703cc49ea34b%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352553200736%26itm%3D332996363296&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

So is a "2" the lowest grade that PSA will assign to a card?  Will they grade and slab a "1" ?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 30, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
The cost of grading and slabbing this trash cost more than this eyesore is worth....  IMHO of course LOL
Especially to send it from the UK! Maybe their seeing-eye dog recommended submitting it.....but he misunderstood when the dog said that it's "ruff".  :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 30, 2019, 10:59:14 AM
I guess the submitter can't read "3rd Series" on the front.  I asked for a photo of the actual pack for sale, and I got the same one for the front along with one for the back too, which of course had a 1980 copyright.  I let them know, so we'll see if the description gets changed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-6th-Series-Vintage-UNOPENED-PACK/233113106173?hash=item36469fb6fd:g:dtwAAOSwYEVcT3jJ:rk:1:pf:0
(https://i.postimg.cc/N9J8nrWZ/s-l1600-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9J8nrWZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4KFbLcCq/s-l1600-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KFbLcCq)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 30, 2019, 03:25:37 PM
So is a "2" the lowest grade that PSA will assign to a card?  Will they grade and slab a "1" ?

I believe they will grade and slab a card as "authentic."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 30, 2019, 03:34:42 PM
Especially to send it from the UK! Maybe their seeing-eye dog recommended submitting it.....but he misunderstood when the dog said that it's "ruff".  :)


 :] ;D :] :-*
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 30, 2019, 03:42:52 PM

 :] ;D :] :-*

Here is another example of an Ebay'er who apparently has no clue on how to do a minute of research before posting these on eBay.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-MULBURRO-CIGARETTES/352553208688?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20171012094517%26meid%3Dbb0707d82a3f42ca8a2c2350fdd778e4%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D273453904078%26itm%3D352553208688&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

let's investigate his/her claims:


Very Rare:  False
1973:  False
1st Series:  False
Great Condition:  False
Mulborro/Mulberry:  False

Lord....  take me home~~ 








Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 30, 2019, 08:17:08 PM
Here is another example of an Ebay'er who apparently has no clue on how to do a minute of research before posting these on eBay.

You can't tell some of the sellers either.  There was a lot that claimed to be tan original 1st series that I told them were all Wonder Bread issues.  They claimed they'd been in business for x amount of years with y thousands of transactions and no complaints.  They didn't believe me and wouldn't do the research even though I sent the links to the site that proved they weren't first tans (copyrights were wrong, cuts were wrong on the others).  I even asked to explain how the cut on Lavirus could be different than a 1st white back when they were all produced at the same time, just with different backs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 31, 2019, 08:46:19 AM
You can't tell some of the sellers either.  There was a lot that claimed to be tan original 1st series that I told them were all Wonder Bread issues.  They claimed they'd been in business for x amount of years with y thousands of transactions and no complaints.  They didn't believe me and wouldn't do the research even though I sent the links to the site that proved they weren't first tans (copyrights were wrong, cuts were wrong on the others).  I even asked to explain how the cut on Lavirus could be different than a 1st white back when they were all produced at the same time, just with different backs.

yes, I have come across such people myself over the years....   :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 31, 2019, 08:56:03 AM
yes, I have come across such people myself over the years....   :great:

And we even have some people in office today, in positions of high authority, who similarly don't care about facts...as hard as that may be to believe.   >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 31, 2019, 09:08:25 AM
And we even have some people in office today, in positions of high authority, who similarly don't care about facts...as hard as that may be to believe.   >(

I agree  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 31, 2019, 02:11:53 PM
I've been missing out on the big bucks!  I should've paired all my stickers that make up Hostess Pairs together, forgetting that they all had tan backs, and asked $319 for them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-1973-2nd-Series-Ajerx-Bleech-White-Backs/283360322135?hash=item41f9976257:g:P~8AAOSwyXVbbLHC:rk:2:pf:0

The same seller has a 4th series Hyde's Rox for $329.  I've really been missing out.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=ywil3993&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on February 01, 2019, 08:29:14 AM
I've been missing out on the big bucks!  I should've paired all my stickers that make up Hostess Pairs together, forgetting that they all had tan backs, and asked $319 for them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-1973-2nd-Series-Ajerx-Bleech-White-Backs/283360322135?hash=item41f9976257:g:P~8AAOSwyXVbbLHC:rk:2:pf:0

The same seller has a 4th series Hyde's Rox for $329.  I've really been missing out.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=ywil3993&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0
The good news is he has not sold any of those high priced wackys to unsuspecting fans!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 01, 2019, 02:11:58 PM
The amount of uneducated sellers on ebay is astounding!!!

Although, I do believe this is just a wrong picture. But, I still cant believe these don't get checked better before being upped.

Jim

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-6th-Series-Vintage-UNOPENED-PACK/233113106173?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20171012094517%26meid%3Db372be7807054bf1a8b0d45ea7fd10c8%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D283360322135%26itm%3D233113106173&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on February 01, 2019, 02:14:34 PM
It's as if an idiot's disease is spreading through eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 01, 2019, 03:48:05 PM
here's everyone's chance at one of those incredibly rare uncut re-issue sheets, for a mere $8600 BIN (+postage) no less. A steal!
it may be uncut, but it's certainly not untorn
eBay auction: #113609278343
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 01, 2019, 08:59:56 PM
here's everyone's chance at one of those incredibly rare uncut re-issue sheets, for a mere $8600 BIN (+postage) no less. A steal!
it may be uncut, but certainly it's certainly not untorn
eBay auction: #113609278343

Shipping alone on this one is 7x more than price of a NM sheet.  Unbelievable!!!

Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 02, 2019, 06:37:28 AM
It's as if an idiot's disease is spreading through eBay.

 :great: :great: :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 02, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
I believe they will grade and slab a card as "authentic."

Um....so this is a PSA 7?  Duzn't you have to have it slabbed by PSA first....Not by you  :P

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-1967-DIE-CUT-34-DUZNT-DO-NUTHIN-PSA-7-NM/183660808071?hash=item2ac3098787%3Ag%3AxXwAAOSwiudcUSxY&LH_Auction=1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 03, 2019, 02:13:56 AM
Um....so this is a PSA 7?  Duzn't you have to have it slabbed by PSA first....Not by you  :P

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-1967-DIE-CUT-34-DUZNT-DO-NUTHIN-PSA-7-NM/183660808071?hash=item2ac3098787%3Ag%3AxXwAAOSwiudcUSxY&LH_Auction=1

Too funny!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on February 03, 2019, 08:38:10 AM
WHAT kind of DRUGS!? are these last two smoking! - Too Funny

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 05, 2019, 07:19:56 PM
The amount of uneducated sellers on ebay is astounding!!!

Although, I do believe this is just a wrong picture. But, I still cant believe these don't get checked better before being upped.

Jim

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-6th-Series-Vintage-UNOPENED-PACK/233113106173?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20171012094517%26meid%3Db372be7807054bf1a8b0d45ea7fd10c8%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D283360322135%26itm%3D233113106173&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

I asked for a photo of the front and back of the pack, and he sent me the one in the auction and the back of the pack with a 1980 copyright on it.  I then let him know that it was a reprint 3rd Series pack from 1980.  He replied "Thanks," but he never changed the description.  Oh well, you can't fix stupid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 05, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
I asked for a photo of the front and back of the pack, and he sent me the one in the auction and the back of the pack with a 1980 copyright on it.  I then let him know that it was a reprint 3rd Series pack from 1980.  He replied "Thanks," but he never changed the description.  Oh well, you can't fix stupid.

And! Just how stupid is the person who bought it at auction??? For an item that says 6th series in the description and clearly 3rd series on the pack. I really don't know what to think about this one...

Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 06, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
C$69.99 for three common checklists?  That probably made sense when the exchange rate was 1,000 Canadian dollars to 10 U.S. Dollars (Canadian Bacon).  Even the shipping is outrageous!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254150367479
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 06, 2019, 03:19:36 PM
C$69.99 for three common checklists?  That probably made sense when the exchange rate was 1,000 Canadian dollars to 10 U.S. Dollars (Canadian Bacon).  Even the shipping is outrageous!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254150367479
come on, these babies are NrMint!! they don't come cheap
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on March 06, 2019, 06:43:10 PM
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2016-Wacky-Packages-MLB-SAN-FRANCISCO-GIANTS-1-of-1-Printing-Plate-1-1/223429786117?hash=item340573fa05:g:f7MAAOSwp~VceXH4

This is THE WINNER!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAKAKAJKAJAJAJGAHAGJAGAJGAJGAJGAJAJAHJAHJAAJGAJGAJGA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 06, 2019, 07:19:19 PM
come on, these babies are NrMint!! they don't come cheap

Apparently the grading is as flawed as the pricing.  But you are correct, the puzzle side of the 7th series checklist is perfectly centered.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 09, 2019, 05:17:57 AM
Not a wacky package, but something else I collect.  These go for maybe $10-15 mint in the package.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273752481977
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 17, 2019, 10:55:31 AM
I’ve seen a lot of sellers mis-describe wonder bread wackys as original series....but Hawaiian Punks is the first seller I’ve seen mis-identify a normal wacky as a wonder bread!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Wacky-Packages-Wonder-Bread-5th-Series-Plop-Sikle-PSA-8/173840015669?hash=item2879ac2135:g:GhAAAOSwfiZcjnE7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on March 25, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
Too funny!  Here is another one by Good 'Ol Ronnie Rocker on eBay.  He is still peddling his swill after all these years....   this one is in Poor/Fair condition at best IMHO.....  and he is asking what?  I would be embarrassed to even list it at more than .99 and hope someone wants it as a filler or a bookmark!!  (all in good fun!)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Series-1-PAUL-MAUL-White-Back-RARE-TITLE/264205209637?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D56586%26meid%3D0c2e20f7255b47d4a0bd9c76965f988f%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D223417395057%26itm%3D264205209637&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219



Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 25, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Wow, that’s a blast from the past. I hadn’t thought about that name in 15 years.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 26, 2019, 10:35:52 AM
If you look at the scan of the back it's not even a Paul Maul silhouette. Looks like Mutt's or maybe Pure Hex.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 26, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
If you look at the scan of the back it's not even a Paul Maul silhouette. Looks like Mutt's or maybe Pure Hex.
I strongly suspect a Mutt's was next to it in the stack [for a long time] which is what caused that. Pure Hex has a longer neck on the bottle...and, this would make sense as the checklist sequence would have Mutt's right under Paul Maul.  :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 29, 2019, 06:16:23 AM
I just love this one -- a new idea on selling die cuts

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264255576238
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 29, 2019, 01:43:53 PM
a new idea on selling die cuts
I've actually seen that before. Not sure where these people's heads are that make them think those have any value....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 29, 2019, 07:34:25 PM
Not the most extreme example by any stretch, but has anyone noticed how common it is for sellers to overvalue the 1979-80 reissues?  I check eBay occasionally for random lots to see if I can bag some Series 3-4 titles that were never repeated again in the albums or Flashbacks, for making homemade magnets mostly, and I’m amazed how commonly minimum bids start at $1 or more per sticker, sometimes north of $2 each.  Even if they came straight out of packs, these prices seem way out of whack to me.  A search for “1980 lot” reveals most of the listings to be like this.  A patient buyer can find common series OS lots at cheaper prices than this.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on March 31, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
Whoooo knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The SHADOW KNOWS!!!!!

haghgahagahgahagahgahagagahaahahahahahahahahahaghagagaagagaghagahaghagahaga
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 31, 2019, 07:17:42 PM
I've actually seen that before. Not sure where these people's heads are that make them think those have any value....
they do have value to the criminals in the hobby.  these will sell and suddenly a #23 6 Up will be born....watch and see...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on April 02, 2019, 05:22:51 PM
When I see listings like this, I get pumped up, because, based on this "NM-" 6-Up, ALL of my stickers would easily come back from PSA as 10's! And all of my copyright error stickers (borderless) would probably return as 8's & 9's!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Original-1st-Series-6UP-sticker-card-NM/264266824569?hash=item3d8787bb79:g:wZYAAOSwzEVcTgcv
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on April 02, 2019, 05:39:22 PM
What's better than purchasing a slabbed, PSA 6, legitimate Wacky Packages Hostess Pair for $309.89?

Well, it's quite simple... purchasing these "Excellent Condition/White Backs*RARE* NM Mock Hostess Pair Of Stickers" for $319.00!

Sure, you may be paying a little more than you would for the real deal, but these are the ONLY "Mock Hostess Pair of Stickers" listed on eBay... er, well, with the exception of the other "Mock Hostess Pair of Stickers" listed on eBay... with a BIN of $329.00

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-1973-2nd-Series-Ajerx-Bleech-White-Backs/283438211077?hash=item41fe3be005:g:P~8AAOSwyXVbbLHC
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on April 02, 2019, 08:28:33 PM
Just trying to decide if i want to buy this nonsense..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b&frcectupt=true


or .....hell, I bow to the best Wacky EVER made:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Go-To-The-Movies-SKETCH-Card-TRUMP-LIES-Pat-Chiamuang/323763868051?hash=item4b61d49193:g:4osAAOSwlf5co~vN&frcectupt=true


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on April 03, 2019, 05:51:04 PM
Just trying to decide if i want to buy this nonsense..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b&frcectupt=true


or .....hell, I bow to the best Wacky EVER made:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Go-To-The-Movies-SKETCH-Card-TRUMP-LIES-Pat-Chiamuang/323763868051?hash=item4b61d49193:g:4osAAOSwlf5co~vN&frcectupt=true

Yuk, why bring politics into Wackys?  Let me guess... :tongue1: :tongue3: :thefinger: :laughing8: :laughing9: :smileinbox: :tard: :toothy12: :toothy10: :violent1:

Did I guess right?  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on April 04, 2019, 11:34:46 AM
:tongue1: :tongue3: :thefinger: :laughing8: :laughing9: :smileinbox: :tard: :toothy12: :toothy10: :violent1:

Wow....like it was coming right outta his head  ;D


....and the art is Briliant!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on April 04, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
:tongue1: :tongue3: :thefinger: :laughing8: :laughing9: :smileinbox: :tard: :toothy12: :toothy10: :violent1:

Wow....like it was coming right outta his head  ;D


....and the art is Briliant!

I guess the response fits in fine.   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on April 09, 2019, 10:59:01 AM
Just trying to decide if i want to buy this nonsense..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b&frcectupt=true


or .....hell, I bow to the best Wacky EVER made:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Go-To-The-Movies-SKETCH-Card-TRUMP-LIES-Pat-Chiamuang/323763868051?hash=item4b61d49193:g:4osAAOSwlf5co~vN&frcectupt=true
If one barfs in a barf bag, and saves it for 30 years,
is it rare?
;  )
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: koduck on April 10, 2019, 05:33:17 AM
If one bafs in a barf bag, and saves it for 30 years,
is it rare?
;  )

Hopefully
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 10, 2019, 04:13:15 PM
I'm not a fan of barf but I do like Heave Cigarettes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 10, 2019, 09:16:16 PM
If one barfs in a barf bag, and saves it for 30 years,
is it rare?
;  )

Yes, but that doesn't make it valuable -- only demand will drive that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 11, 2019, 10:31:47 AM
Hopefully

It depends.  >:D   How many bags were produced? Are the bags autographed? Is there a certificate of authenticity? Was the bag meticulously sealed in a PVC free, acid-fee, UV protected barf bag binder page? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 15, 2019, 06:37:46 AM
When I see listings like this, I get pumped up, because, based on this "NM-" 6-Up, ALL of my stickers would easily come back from PSA as 10's! And all of my copyright error stickers (borderless) would probably return as 8's & 9's!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Original-1st-Series-6UP-sticker-card-NM/264266824569?hash=item3d8787bb79:g:wZYAAOSwzEVcTgcv

I think they need to relabel this NM-----------------------------------------

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 15, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
I think they need to relabel this NM-----------------------------------------

No, he just needs to redefine "NM" as '"Nicely Mangled."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on April 15, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
No, he just needs to redefine "NM" as '"Nicely Mangled."

Or... NOT Mint.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on April 16, 2019, 04:59:07 PM
Mangled - hahahahahahahahahaha

See you in AT Dr.S!

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 18, 2019, 11:30:32 AM
Um.....yeah, it's nice, but...a tad high? eBay auction: #153455511129
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 18, 2019, 03:14:51 PM
Um.....yeah, it's nice, but...a tad high? eBay auction: #153455511129

Holy crap!!!  If it sells as a best offer we'll never know what the actual price was, right?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2019, 05:11:49 PM
Holy crap!!!  If it sells as a best offer we'll never know what the actual price was, right?

We can find out the accepted best offer. Crazy that there were only two 9s for so long and there have been three more in the last few years. This one looks toned.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
And a reasonable price for the Band-Ache 9 is around $2K.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 19, 2019, 03:52:18 AM
We can find out the accepted best offer. Crazy that there were only two 9s for so long and there have been three more in the last few years. This one looks toned.

I agree, it looks toned, and I wonder what the back looks like - probably toned, too.

He has one other Wacky up, a Run Tony (white back) PSA 9, for the bargain price of $15k  eBay auction: #163654405498
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on April 19, 2019, 09:20:18 AM
Remember the good ol' days when eBay charged you a listing fee that was based on your starting price?  It would make people think twice before listing something at an extravagant price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 19, 2019, 03:02:26 PM
Remember the good ol' days when eBay charged you a listing fee that was based on your starting price?  It would make people think twice before listing something at an extravagant price.

I remember the days when you could post your email address (or even have it as your user id), and get in touch with other ebay members - that was the good old days to me.......  Now, we can't know who we're dealing with, and ebay gets a cut of pretty much everything sold on the secondary market, so they don't need listing fees anymore.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on April 20, 2019, 12:27:47 PM
The Bandache 9's price was cut nearly in half.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 20, 2019, 12:39:07 PM
Looks like the Run Tony went for $5,000  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 20, 2019, 02:33:30 PM
Looks like the Run Tony went for $5,000  :o

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fs0H3D62/2907-DB03-9-F5-B-49-AD-A104-87-C2-A1-E3188-D.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 20, 2019, 02:34:52 PM
The Bandache 9's price was cut nearly in half.

So now it’s only 400% too high!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 20, 2019, 04:06:33 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fs0H3D62/2907-DB03-9-F5-B-49-AD-A104-87-C2-A1-E3188-D.jpg)

Ebay shows $5,000.  I hate them not showing actual prices!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 01, 2019, 09:54:35 AM
This one's fun. This is probably the only time that you'll be able to buy a 1979 reprint sheet that comes "w/ Bum/Choke/Mess/Windhex"... but they aren't visible on the sheet.

I try not to be a stickler about grammar issues on social media, but this seller's item description requires a LONG breath before you read it. I say that we all chip in to buy this sheet so that the seller can purchase some punctuation. (end of snarky rant!)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Original-Wacky-Packages-1-Series-w-Bum-Choke-Mess-Windhex-Higher-Grade/293071221444?hash=item443c67f2c4:g:Dw0AAOSwIGxcK3tF
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 01, 2019, 10:11:22 AM
His shipping quote is more than the sheet is worth!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 01, 2019, 12:52:13 PM
George you should learn for to be more tolerating of people when they have these writing impediments cause some of them can't help it and if they do and they get things wrong then they have trouble only they're not stupid with sentences and then they think they're dumb cause they didn't pay attention in school cause some of them are needy or on drugs and other things too and you should mail them courtesy GG cards to make them happier.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 01, 2019, 04:47:49 PM
George you should learn for to be more tolerating of people when they have these writing impediments cause some of them can't help it and if they do and they get things wrong then they have trouble only they're not stupid with sentences and then they think they're dumb cause they didn't pay attention in school cause some of them are needy or on drugs and other things too and you should mail them courtesy GG cards to make them happier.

Hah!!!! I read your reply out loud, and my neighbor thought I was conducting an old-timey public auction. They asked me why I didn't use any periods, and I told them that I had ordered some last month, but they were back-ordered... so hopefully, I'll get my periods this month. I get anxious when I don't get my periods on time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Brian Mc on May 01, 2019, 04:58:20 PM
I try not to be a stickler about grammar issues on social media, but this seller's item description requires a LONG breath before you read it. I say that we all chip in to buy this sheet so that the seller can purchase some punctuation. (end of snarky rant!

OMG, I tried to read his description. I could feel my IQ literally being sucked right out of my skull. I had to stop before I suffered permanent dain bramage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 01, 2019, 09:13:52 PM
I PM'd the seller, and asked them if they would post pictures of the "Bum/Choke/Mess/Windhex" stickers, because I didn't see them in the photos provided. They replied, and said they'd post them... now, we wait!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 02, 2019, 09:01:24 PM
I try not to be a stickler about grammar issues on social media, but this seller's item description requires a LONG breath before you read it.

I especially love two parts:
 
 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 03, 2019, 02:44:31 PM
Why, he means Bum, of course!

(https://i.postimg.cc/hJPX5zMf/Not-my-Bum.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJPX5zMf)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 03, 2019, 03:59:20 PM
I especially love two parts:
  • That he counted them and they're all there -- most of us would just do a little math we learned in the 2nd grade of 6 x 11 = 66.  After all he was a kid in 1979, so that makes him 45?  Surely he knows his times tables.
  • The grade on them being a 10+.  I suppose he was literally giving 100%+ effort when he wrote it!

There's little question this seller is a few cards short of a set, so I wouldn't guarantee that he knows his times tables. I think the "10 +" is his shorthand for writing "10 plus": ...I have a uncut sheet set the grade on them is 10 plus I have many sheets for sell...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 03, 2019, 04:31:33 PM
You should check out some of his descriptions for his other auctions.  They're just as bad, if not worse.

(And yet... and yet... he still manages to sell many items, though I don't know how.)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 03, 2019, 08:30:55 PM
(And yet... and yet... he still manages to sell many items, though I don't know how.)

It's definitely not because of his prices.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 05, 2019, 10:46:21 AM
I PM'd the seller, and asked them if they would post pictures of the "Bum/Choke/Mess/Windhex" stickers, because I didn't see them in the photos provided. They replied, and said they'd post them... now, we wait!

LOL!!  He had me in hysterics at his asking price. You can barely give those away.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 06, 2019, 12:16:23 AM
I can’t believe the seller actually wrote “I counted and they are all there!” What is this world coming to?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 06, 2019, 03:53:50 PM
I PM'd the seller, and asked them if they would post pictures of the "Bum/Choke/Mess/Windhex" stickers, because I didn't see them in the photos provided. They replied, and said they'd post them... now, we wait!

Here's my message to the seller:

Hello,

"I was wondering if you could post images of the Bum Chex, Choke Wagon, Mess Clairoil and Windhex stickers. I do not see them in the photos for this auction. Thanks in advance!"

Here's their response:

"Yea I made mistake this is from 79 thise are from the 60s sorry about that"

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on May 06, 2019, 06:10:51 PM
George....out of this world!?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 07, 2019, 07:02:20 AM
Here's my message to the seller:

Hello,

"I was wondering if you could post images of the Bum Chex, Choke Wagon, Mess Clairoil and Windhex stickers. I do not see them in the photos for this auction. Thanks in advance!"

Here's their response:

"Yea I made mistake this is from 79 thise are from the 60s sorry about that"

Welcome to the Twilight Zone!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 11, 2019, 07:25:18 PM
One aspect of collecting Wacky Packages, is that there are always new things to learn about and collect. One such item, is the elusive Jerkens N/C. This is the first one that I've ever seen... feast your eyes on this anomaly!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-JERKENS-SOAP-Manufacture-Flaw-No-Printing-At-Bottom/192913760179?hash=item2cea8e5fb3:g:NUEAAOSwYARbbwG1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 12, 2019, 01:49:40 AM
The explanations given in the description are becoming more and more ridiculous. I appreciate you posting this. It gave me a good laugh. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on May 12, 2019, 10:34:37 AM
Did protective sleeves, toploaders or snap cases even exist in 1974?  And even if they did, what little kid is gonna say “hey daddy, we got a real winner here.  Wait until something called the internet gets created in 20 years, and we can make a fortune selling it there.....”.  Sooooooo stupid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 12, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
One aspect of collecting Wacky Packages, is that there are always new things to learn about and collect. One such item, is the elusive Jerkens N/C. This is the first one that I've ever seen... feast your eyes on this anomaly!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-JERKENS-SOAP-Manufacture-Flaw-No-Printing-At-Bottom/192913760179?hash=item2cea8e5fb3:g:NUEAAOSwYARbbwG1
I wrote to the seller the following: (they mentioned how their daughter placed these directly into protective sleeves)

I think this is one your daughter did play with. The sticker border was peeled away from upper left to lower right (notice how much thicker the black border is along the top and right side). This is why the copyright is missing...it was peeled away.


Their response:

I have a huge book filled with these stickers. They are all in great condition. Take a look at the backside of this sticker. She did not play with any of the stickers. Nothing is pilled away. Thanks for info. What you are saying must have been a printing error, and because of that is probably more valuable

The "backside" of the sticker shows corner wear, at least a little. And, now it is worth $35 from the prior price of $12! lol

The real "backside" is the one writing the response.   8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 12, 2019, 04:27:07 PM
The seller does explain, however, that he/she has "listed this at a higher price due to the fact this is an error sticker and a RARE manufacture mistake."  I might also point out that "rare" is in upper case (which obviously makes all the difference in the world.)  You can't fool this seller, Bigtomi.  They know they're sitting on a gold mine!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 13, 2019, 03:45:31 AM
I asked the seller to post clearer pictures, more in focus.  Now it's obvious where the border was torn. To make matters more ridiculous, they've also upped the price to $49!  Incredible!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Brian Mc on May 13, 2019, 04:32:23 AM
With all the "inquiries", they think y'all are interested. I'm with Tom and his backside comment. LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 13, 2019, 02:19:57 PM
OMG!  "Backside" is the understatement of the year!  The seller has now jacked up the price from $12 to $179!  Oh, this poor slob is in for a real disappointment.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 13, 2019, 03:11:03 PM
They know they're sitting on a gold mine!
We, of course, know they're sitting on their "backside".

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this one obviously doesn't understand the difference between the border [being peeled away] and the sticker backing, as they explain that it is exactly the same size as the other stickers they have. What a friggin doofus! I just wanna Stooge slap them! They are not worth any more time/effort to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 13, 2019, 04:39:23 PM
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this one obviously doesn't understand the difference between the border [being peeled away] and the sticker backing, as they explain that it is exactly the same size as the other stickers they have. What a friggin doofus! I just wanna Stooge slap them! They are not worth any more time/effort to me.
butt, butt, butt "Nothing is torn off the Jerkens Soap Sticker." They said it, so it must be true.

$179 is true delusion!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Brian Mc on May 13, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
Maybe he put the decimal in the wrong place? $1.79?  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 16, 2019, 09:44:43 AM
Maybe he put the decimal in the wrong place? $1.79?  :P

Even $1.79 is a bit too high!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 16, 2019, 10:18:01 AM
Here's a prime example of a seller who has done just enough research to find out that a 13th Series white-back is valuable... but not enough research to discern between a reprint title... and an actual "white-back" sticker. It appears that they do not have a genuine white-back, but a more common "monkey-on-their-(sticker)-back"... literally.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1980-3rd-Series-Beastball-160-Sticker-Rare-White-Back/113751966188?hash=item1a7c2541ec:g:Eh4AAOSwt0pc3ZUo
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Baked Bears on May 16, 2019, 11:02:50 AM
The "Jerkins" seller must of realized the error of their ways for they lowered their price from $179 to $139.  A substantial savings of $40!  Now it's bound to sell!  It just has to, damn it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 16, 2019, 11:11:34 AM
Here's a prime example of a seller who has done just enough research to find out that a 13th Series white-back is valuable... but not enough research to discern between a reprint title... and an actual "white-back" sticker. It appears that they do not have a genuine white-back, but a more common "monkey-on-their-(sticker)-back"... literally.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1980-3rd-Series-Beastball-160-Sticker-Rare-White-Back/113751966188?hash=item1a7c2541ec:g:Eh4AAOSwt0pc3ZUo

I dunno, this one is a rare 3/4 white border card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 26, 2019, 11:44:15 PM
Now here is a great investment opportunity for those of you that want to send some can’t miss stickers to PSA for grading.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKYS-EARLY-1970s-CHILDHOOD-COLLECTION-OF-213-IN-TWO-BINDERS-LOOK/293025354147?hash=item4439ac11a3:g:3h8AAOSwgw9bOVDI
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 27, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
The last line in this post made me laugh. “Smoke free and packaged well. Ships priority in a cigar box...” It is like the person was creating his own wacky ad (including the ridiculous price).


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-93-card-lot-blank-backs-Serious-collectors-lot/332509722835?hash=item4d6b1fb8d3:g:9WQAAOSwUchaSDl8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on May 27, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
Hahahahahahahah - Fowl!?

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 27, 2019, 10:06:19 AM
eBay auction: #332509722835
(including the ridiculous price)
To be fair, there IS a Run-a-way, Truant and Grime Heavy in there.   :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 10, 2019, 07:15:42 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SKETCH-CARD-BARF-WIMPSON-by-Tom-BUNK-Simpsons/183841119604?hash=item2acdc8dd74:g:H6EAAOSwwYFc~KtB
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 10, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
"Remember. This is a one of a kind sketch card. No one else will ever have this card except you."

Well, this is untrue. The seller has the card now.   :-\
hehehehe

But, I suppose, given the price on it, probably no one else WILL ever have this card...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 11, 2019, 02:59:47 AM
Hey - price reduction!  Grab it!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SKETCH-CARD-BARF-WIMPSON-by-Tom-BUNK-Simpsons/183841119604?hash=item2acdc8dd74:g:H6EAAOSwwYFc~KtB

And today another reduction.  From $700 to $400 to $280 - keep going and you'll someday get there, Aussie seller!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 16, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
Marc,

I will not snake it if you realllllly want it....gahsghaghagahgahwgwhgahgahagahgahagahaghagaha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on July 25, 2019, 08:20:35 AM
"Remember. This is a one of a kind sketch card. No one else will ever have this card except you."

Well, this is untrue. The seller has the card now.   :-\
hehehehe

But, I suppose, given the price on it, probably no one else WILL ever have this card...

Too funny!  Here is another auction that blows my mind.  In the description he says this sticker is NRMT.  Has he taken the 30 seconds to look up the definition of NRMT?  Nope....  this card has a serious crushed bottom left corner with the other corners being soft as Downey, putting it at poor condition IMHO...  How do these charlatans sleep at night?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-3RD-WACKY-PACKAGES-PACK-STICKER-CRAKOLA-CRAYONS-BROKEN-BLAND-COLORS-DRAWING/143079494147?hash=item215033d203:g:hIkAAMXQhpdRoAWn
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 25, 2019, 03:30:29 PM
In the description he says this sticker is NRMT....  How do these charlatans sleep at night?
Much like the woman who thinks her daughter's "unplayed with" Jerkens with the half peeled border is a "manufacturing printing error", these people are just either morons or naïve to the max...or both.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on August 02, 2019, 07:29:59 PM
I have not sold anything on Ebay in years but I was trying to list something tonight and I can find some of the features I uses to use like Buy It Now and the Reserve price feature. Or even how to make the listing title BOLD. What the heck am I missing?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on August 04, 2019, 07:51:16 AM
Here’s a head scratcher.......


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F383086282195
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 04, 2019, 08:34:34 AM
I have not sold anything on Ebay in years but I was trying to list something tonight and I can find some of the features I uses to use like Buy It Now and the Reserve price feature. Or even how to make the listing title BOLD. What the heck am I missing?
not sure what you are missing, as all those options are automatically available on the 'create your listing' page, as either check boxes or fill in the blank
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 04, 2019, 09:29:51 AM
Here’s a head scratcher.......


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F383086282195

The key here is the "Make Offer."  This is a very reliable seller.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 04, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
Here’s a head scratcher.......
Like Marc says, he's probably looking for offers, as the only thing here to me that's a "head scratcher" is the price is high given the condition.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 04, 2019, 10:33:21 AM
Like Marc says, he's probably looking for offers, as the only thing here to me that's a "head scratcher" is the price is high given the condition.

I agree.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 04, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
Is it any more of a head scratcher than this listing for a complete set of 1982 OPC album stickers?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223606004522

I bought a set in the 90s for about $20-40 and even have a full unopened box.  This is another long-time seller who I've bought ANS and Olds stuff from in the past.  Is this set really worth this much?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 04, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
Is it any more of a head scratcher than this listing for a complete set of 1982 OPC album stickers? Is this set really worth this much?
I have only seen maybe one or two of these sets in my 20 years of collecting, so I would say pretty rare. Hard to know what a proper number here is, though, but ~$6 per sticker might be a tad high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on August 04, 2019, 11:58:21 AM
not sure what you are missing, as all those options are automatically available on the 'create your listing' page, as either check boxes or fill in the blank

 They always have been in years past but they are not there now. Im sure I am missing something. Thank you
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 04, 2019, 05:44:21 PM
They always have been in years past but they are not there now. Im sure I am missing something. Thank you
when you select the 'sell' button, the first page eBay provides is the 'tell us what you're selling' page, with a single box for the title of the item.
Once you enter the title and hit 'Get Started', the next page is the 'Create Your Listing' page, with all those options you are looking for and everything else.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on August 04, 2019, 06:16:25 PM
Yeah, I have no idea what is going on. It guides me through the entire process and I never see Reserve or make off options. I simply do not know whats going on. I appreciate the help. I will continue to mess with it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on August 04, 2019, 06:19:28 PM
Ok I got it. Sheeesh. There was a small "Add more options" link I had to enable to be able to see the reserve and make offer features....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 16, 2019, 06:48:17 AM
How are multiple people bidding on this?!

eBay auction: #223618430679
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 16, 2019, 09:18:39 AM
How are multiple people bidding on this?!

eBay auction: #223618430679
If PSA says it's a First Series Tan-Back, then it must be so!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 16, 2019, 03:43:47 PM
If PSA says it's a First Series Tan-Back, then it must be so!!
just quote Forest Gump, and you will have your answer. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 16, 2019, 05:01:25 PM
How are multiple people bidding on this?!

eBay auction: #223618430679

Unfortunately there are lots of things to learn about Wacky's and not everybody has all the info.  Someone will be pretty bummed when they find out they bought a fairly worthless Wonderbread.  Also, how the heck did this get an 8?  It is VERY off-center.  I thought that was a big discount in the rating.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 17, 2019, 07:48:05 AM
just quote Forest Gump, and you will have your answer.
"Life is like a PSA holder...you never know what you're gonna get".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on August 17, 2019, 07:58:07 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers/223626863432?hash=item3411332348:g:lyEAAOSwhn5dWFR~

I clicked on the auction to see how many reissues he had for the $100...…….. after reading the auction and realizing it was $100 PER STICKER...……………………….I guess I will take them all...…...I mean...…...that would only be $26,400 for a full set of 264.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on August 18, 2019, 01:14:38 AM
I just sent a message to that person to ask if their were nuts. I will keep you informed of the response.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 18, 2019, 06:27:55 AM
This one actually made me laugh.......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-9th-Series-Complete-w-Puzzle-Grades-7-9/113848479218?hash=item1a81e5edf2%3Ag%3ArqQAAOSwFpNdH4cW&LH_Auction=1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on August 18, 2019, 01:48:31 PM
I am going to bid....1K just to lock out the competition!

#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 20, 2019, 01:31:37 PM
Not a wacky package item, but these should go for maybe $10-$15 each. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273960812804?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 20, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Not a wacky package item, but these should go for maybe $10-$15 each. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273960812804?ul_noapp=true

Wow!  I have several dozen JL cars to sell, and I expect about $10 apiece.  If I thought I could get that for a pair, I might just quit my job!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on October 17, 2019, 12:45:55 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-10th-Series-Sticker-outer-frame-sticker-missing-Extremely-rare-sticker/153687461397?hash=item23c87c8e15:g:ZVcAAOSwSRBdnoxf 

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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 17, 2019, 01:41:02 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-10th-Series-Sticker-outer-frame-sticker-missing-Extremely-rare-sticker/153687461397?hash=item23c87c8e15:g:ZVcAAOSwSRBdnoxf 

Well, it is extremely rare that a Pupsi-Cola would have the border removed instead of the sticker -- or left intact.  If I could get $500 for a sticker in this condition, I'd have a border removing party tonight.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 18, 2019, 10:37:28 AM
Well, it is extremely rare that a Pupsi-Cola would have the border removed instead of the sticker -- or left intact.  If I could get $500 for a sticker in this condition, I'd have a border removing party tonight.
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It is soo rare in fact that there are 10 on Ebay right now with the borders and a fracture of the bid price....  oh your right, it must be the rare borderless version!! Don't these sellers do even one minute of research before making these absurd claims? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 18, 2019, 11:47:05 AM
Don't these sellers do even one minute of research before making these absurd claims?

Obviously they don't -- or they just hope that there's a sucker born every minute with enough cash in his or her hand to pay an outrageous price for something that isn't as valuable as the seller makes it out to be. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 18, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
I don't know if this one has already made it on this thread... but I am still picking myself off the floor.  Asking price of $1500 plus $15 shipping for a set of the original 5th series in maybe Fair to VG condition at best with the rare borderless Cram no less,  and only one puzzle piece?  This is a $15 set for anyone willing to pay for it at all. This is why I left Evilbay and PayUpPal years ago.  I have an extra set of the original 5th series (one of my favs btw) in conservatively EX+/NRMT for the strict graders, with full puzzle that I am willing to sell to anyone on this forum for a mere $50.  Pictures available upon request of course.   I won't get any takers because it is not that rare, as opposed to what this scammer is trying to pull on the uneducated masses.....  really sad state of affairs.

ps...  this joker rates this swill at NRMT?  So, at least he or she knows how cards are rated.... but spent no time seeing if this swill rates this high or is even on the scale at all??  Ebay has cancelled sellers accounts for much less fraud than this.....  wow!!


https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 18, 2019, 03:45:28 PM
Obviously they don't -- or they just hope that there's a sucker born every minute with enough cash in his or her hand to pay an outrageous price for something that isn't as valuable as the seller makes it out to be.

until the sucker does 5 minutes of homework.... and then realizes that got had.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 18, 2019, 08:17:44 PM
until the sucker does 5 minutes of homework.... and then realizes that got had.....

But the sucker won't, and that's what makes him or her a sucker.

I see way too many things listed at prices that won't ever sell unless a true sucker comes along.  But what can eBay do about it?  They can't possibly police every one of the millions of items listed every day. 

They can't even police everyone that breaks a policy.  I've seen magnets coming out of Asia that were just a scaled down copy of an ESPN Magazine body issue cover, which should be a copyright infringement.  I let eBay know, and they took it down.  Then the seller listed it again a couple of weeks later.  Eventually the people reporting it will give up when eBay doesn't do something to permanently stop the seller.  Even then what's to stop them from opening up a new account and doing it again.  We've even had discussions on this forum of similar happenings with non-Topps Wacky Packages items.  After all, more sellers = more buyers = more money for eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 09, 2019, 05:01:53 AM
I saw this yesterday in a survey I got for the Baltimore Comic-Con.  As a software person and survey writer, I know that you should always use definitive answers if you want to be able to completely analyze the results based on demographics.  So I wonder what message they are saying by 1) not using radio buttons with male and female, and 2) giving someone 50 characters to answer.

I answered with: born male, still male, male by God's creation

I left 5 characters unused


(https://i.postimg.cc/D8ntnh1w/Baltimore-Comic-Con.png) (https://postimg.cc/D8ntnh1w)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on November 09, 2019, 08:00:18 AM
I saw this yesterday in a survey I got for the Baltimore Comic-Con.  As a software person and survey writer, I know that you should always use definitive answers if you want to be able to completely analyze the results based on demographics.  So I wonder what message they are saying by 1) not using radio buttons with male and female, and 2) giving someone 50 characters to answer.

I answered with: born male, still male, male by God's creation

I left 5 characters unused


(https://i.postimg.cc/D8ntnh1w/Baltimore-Comic-Con.png) (https://postimg.cc/D8ntnh1w)

In today's overly politically correct world I'm guessing they did this to avoid pissing anyone off.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on November 09, 2019, 08:03:37 AM
In today's overly politically correct world I'm guessing they did this to avoid pissing anyone off.

I tend to agree.  For radio buttons, you have to make sure you don't leave anything out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on November 09, 2019, 08:18:10 AM
o Wacky Packages
o Wacky Packages
o Wacky Packages
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Rabid Shaver on November 17, 2019, 08:13:14 PM
Came across this little gem .....and with a checklist?    -- Planet of the grapes 1974?

 eBay  273984375841

Wacky Television Spinoff
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 17, 2019, 08:23:34 PM
Came across this little gem .....and with a checklist?    -- Planet of the grapes 1974?

 eBay  273984375841

Wacky Television Spinoff

Wow, great find! That’s some cool lost history

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsqcKtqQ/55609-E77-EA60-4306-92-B2-CC973-F1-A5667.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 02, 2019, 05:41:16 AM
$500 for a volleyball and a frisbee???

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-WILSON-Endless-Summer-BEACH-KIT-w-Frisbee-Disc-Volleyball-Official-Size/303386137789?hash=item46a33914bd:g:2S4AAOSwUG1d48~e

So I went to their listings, and they must've programmed something wrong because everything they've listed since November 24th at 7PM is $500.  I wonder when they'll notice that no one is buying anything.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/wonderdealsplus/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 06, 2020, 05:29:21 PM
seems a bit steep?  $120 for a nice OS 4 wrapper eBay auction: #372904185648
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 06, 2020, 07:49:24 PM
seems a bit steep?  $120 for a nice OS 4 wrapper eBay auction: #372904185648

That’s Dan. All of his listings are a bit, shall we say, aggressively priced.
$799 for a 1971 baseball display box. I paid $90 for mine. Etc. He does have some cool items though!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 03, 2020, 10:20:17 AM
Maybe not full-blown nuts, but certainly on the edge of sanity. Nine (9) reissues for $80? Oh, sorry, it's the rare 13th series puzzle that has stickers instead of checklists on the back.   :-\

eBay auction: #184157230244
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 03, 2020, 10:37:15 AM
Maybe not full-blown nuts, but certainly on the edge of sanity. Nine (9) reissues for $80? Oh, sorry, it's the rare 13th series puzzle that has stickers instead of checklists on the back.   :-\

eBay auction: #184157230244

Perhaps English is a 2nd language: "1975 Wacky Packs series #13 very rare beastball complete puzzle not checklist on back its  stickers rare , Very good condition look at picks.No creases corners good."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 03, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
Perhaps English is a 2nd language: "1975 Wacky Packs series #13 very rare beastball complete puzzle not checklist on back its  stickers rare , Very good condition look at picks.No creases corners good."

I'd say s/he beat the odds to only have 9 of them and they made a complete puzzle.  Otherwise, s/he would realize that all of them have puzzle pieces on the back -- imagine how much more rare a find it is to have found 66 of them like that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 03, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
I'd say s/he beat the odds to only have 9 of them and they made a complete puzzle -- imagine how much more rare a find it is to have found 66 of them like that.
LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 03, 2020, 04:53:13 PM
I'd say s/he beat the odds to only have 9 of them and they made a complete puzzle.  Otherwise, s/he would realize that all of them have puzzle pieces on the back -- imagine how much more rare a find it is to have found 66 of them like that.

These Evilbay "sellers" can't do a 1 min Google search to figure out if what they have is rare or swill?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 03, 2020, 07:52:13 PM
These Evilbay "sellers" can't do a 1 min Google search to figure out if what they have is rare or swill?
No need! Everything they have is "mint & rare"!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 04, 2020, 11:22:19 AM
These Evilbay "sellers" can't do a 1 min Google search to figure out if what they have is rare or swill?

They probably did, found this auction, https://www.ebay.com/itm/402022328323, looked at the backs and decided because theirs had stickers instead of checklists, that it was rare ... and mint.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 10, 2020, 03:42:29 PM
Hurry and get this super rare 'printing error' sticker set.  I can only imagine the horror when this 'mistake' was found hot off the presses!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-WACKY-Packages-VARIATIONS-5th-SERIES-UNCUT-Puzzle-Both-ERROR-NEW-PRINTING/164070678967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I am sure someone will scoop this up.  There is a sucker born every minute.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 11, 2020, 03:46:32 AM
Hurry and get this super rare 'printing error' sticker set.  I can only imagine the horror when this 'mistake' was found hot off the presses!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-WACKY-Packages-VARIATIONS-5th-SERIES-UNCUT-Puzzle-Both-ERROR-NEW-PRINTING/164070678967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I am sure someone will scoop this up.  There is a sucker born every minute.

It reminds me of some of the errors in the Topps 1973 baseball set. 

https://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/73/1973-Topps

Of course, when you print them yourselves and pass them off as real Wacky Packages, you can print your own intentional errors and sell them at a higher price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on February 11, 2020, 09:37:39 AM
Hurry and get this super rare 'printing error' sticker set.  I can only imagine the horror when this 'mistake' was found hot off the presses!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-WACKY-Packages-VARIATIONS-5th-SERIES-UNCUT-Puzzle-Both-ERROR-NEW-PRINTING/164070678967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I am sure someone will scoop this up.  There is a sucker born every minute.

This is Matt Stock sellling these correct?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 11, 2020, 03:19:26 PM
Of course, when you print them yourselves and pass them off as real Wacky Packages, you can print your own intentional errors and sell them at a higher price.
But also, beware of the forged Fake Wackys. The gall of some people  :-\

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNHddMtx/Screen-Shot-2020-02-11-at-5-15-40-PM.png)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 11, 2020, 06:40:31 PM
But also, beware of the forged Fake Wackys. The gall of some people  :-\

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNHddMtx/Screen-Shot-2020-02-11-at-5-15-40-PM.png)

Holy crap. people are forging fake Wacky Packages????  That is pretty unsavory. Trying to wrestle good money for remakes of non-origninals.  I think the FBI really needs to get involved here before this spirals out of control.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 12, 2020, 03:48:51 AM
This is Matt Stock sellling these correct?

I believe so.  If my memory serves me correctly, Knight Collectibles suddenly popped up when Make Mine Marvel got temporarily suspended, selling pretty much the same non-Topps Wacky Packages stuff that MMM had previously listed. 

It's just too difficult to police the gazillions of sellers on eBay. I've reported a few sellers for items that were obvious copyright infringements, and it typically takes eBay about a week to get them to pull down their item.  Then miraculously there's a new account that pops up, from the same geographic location, selling the same copyrighted material the next day.  I eventually just gave up reporting them, and I imagine most people who do report them eventually give up.

It would take a large corporation with deep pockets like Topps to report the issue and get all the Wacky Packages knockoffs pulled down to make a change.  I don't know if Topps just doesn't care or if they just don't have the time to do it.  They shut down another knockoff years ago, who wasn't selling on eBay, because of the thick black border around the parodied image that Topps claims infringed on one of their copyrights.  Topps has gone to the thinner borders with everything they've made lately, but I notice these knockoffs are using it, so it seems that legal precedence has already been set and could be easily used to stop these if Topps really wanted to do it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on February 12, 2020, 07:27:04 AM
Topps should learn from this that collectors are hungry for more Wacky Packages!! We barely get anything anymore with the exception of the fantastic Old School and the awesome customs offered here. I can't understand why Garbage Pail Kids still gets so much love from Topps and lots of product released continually. It baffles the mind!! Don't get me wrong. The artwork on those are always top notch. But everyone loves a spoof and there is a lot of untapped territory that can be covered with new Wacky sets. CD covers, Blu-Ray covers, logos, movie posters, and plenty of brand new retail products.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 12, 2020, 07:56:44 AM
Topps should learn from this that collectors are hungry for more Wacky Packages!! We barely get anything anymore with the exception of the fantastic Old School and the awesome customs offered here. I can't understand why Garbage Pail Kids still gets so much love from Topps and lots of product released continually. It baffles the mind!! Don't get me wrong. The artwork on those are always top notch. But everyone loves a spoof and there is a lot of untapped territory that can be covered with new Wacky sets. CD covers, Blu-Ray covers, logos, movie posters, and plenty of brand new retail products.

Like all the new vegetarian and vegan products on the market nowadays.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 12, 2020, 01:10:32 PM
Huh??  Must be a joke.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Worlds-Most-Expensive-Pack-of-Gum-Original-Bazooka-Bubble-Gum/362888557762?hash=item547dd7f4c2:g:HqYAAOSw2bReJf7M

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on February 12, 2020, 04:33:08 PM
Quote
Topps should learn from this that collectors are hungry for more Wacky Packages!! We barely get anything anymore with the exception of the fantastic Old School and the awesome customs offered here...

Time to get Fleer to rejuvenate "Crazy Magazine Covers"!  Yah!!!  I've been waiting for 4th Series Crazy Covers for 40 years!!!  The art was amazing.  Maybe then Topps would give more attention to Wackys again, knowing what competition they'd be up against! 

(I jest, of course... but shockingly I do still have my series complete 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Crazy Covers w/puzzles in a binder with Mr.Phoney's Funnies)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on February 12, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
don't forget 1979 Crazy Labels.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 13, 2020, 03:29:21 AM
Huh??  Must be a joke.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Worlds-Most-Expensive-Pack-of-Gum-Original-Bazooka-Bubble-Gum/362888557762?hash=item547dd7f4c2:g:HqYAAOSw2bReJf7M

I think it is.  He has two other listings - one for a Upper Deck Kobe Bryant Rookie Card at $50 and a McDonald's poster for Sweet and Sour Sauce at $1000.

Apparently it's a high school kid looking to make some dough.  The McDonalds listing has the following:

Love this collectible but I'm willing to give it up to pay for my senior stuff for high school and help my friends and family out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 13, 2020, 03:37:27 AM
don't forget 1979 Crazy Labels.

Loved the gags, hated the dots around the stickers.  Imagine what Topps would do with this concept of putting images of the different stickers on the back of each one.  In a 55 card set, there could now be 55 different backs and four different colors of dots around the sticker itself.  What's that 55*55*4 different combinations? Ship it in a pack of 10 with poor collation so that you'd have to buy at least 10 times as many to guarantee a complete set. That would really drive the completists nuts!  I'd be buying stock in the people who make those little plastic boxes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on February 13, 2020, 09:52:12 PM
I never finished my Crazy Labels set.  Anyone want mine in trade for something equally ugly?  Not sure how many I have or condition.  But that's like saying "Not sure how many David Hasslehoff CDs I have or what songs are on them".  Sorry Mr. H.  ... great in Knight Rider, though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 19, 2020, 08:06:53 AM
I never finished my Crazy Labels set.  Anyone want mine in trade for something equally ugly?  Not sure how many I have or condition.  But that's like saying "Not sure how many David Hasslehoff CDs I have or what songs are on them".  Sorry Mr. H.  ... great in Knight Rider, though.

Hey! As someone who collects all kinds of parody items, not just Wacky Packages, I have to love my Fleer red-headed stepchildren just as much as the other kids (almost).  ;)   Gotta give Fleer props for their efforts beyond just gum cards with the Crazy Cans, Chug-A-Cans, Crazy Spray Cans, Crazy TV Dinners, Crazy Video, etc.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 19, 2020, 08:20:49 AM
Hey! As someone who collects all kinds of parody items, as well as Wacky Packages, I have to love my Fleer red-headed stepchildren just as much as the other kids (almost).  ;)   Gotta give Fleer props for their efforts beyond just gum cards with the Crazy Cans, Chug-A-Cans, Crazy Spray Cans, Crazy TV Dinners, Crazy Video, etc.

Agree 100%.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 18, 2020, 12:21:10 PM
WTF is going on here? See how these people are all intertwined?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS10-JOE-SIMKON-COLOR-Umbrella-Sketch-Card/223945680963?hash=item342433e843:g:1FUAAOSwsWlebBbD


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS10-SKETCH-Card-By-JOE-SIMKO-AMAZING-COLOR/223949797642?hash=item342472b90a:g:asQAAOSw6nNecWtF
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 18, 2020, 12:28:25 PM
WTF is going on here? See how these people are all intertwined?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS10-JOE-SIMKON-COLOR-Umbrella-Sketch-Card/223945680963?hash=item342433e843:g:1FUAAOSwsWlebBbD


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS10-SKETCH-Card-By-JOE-SIMKO-AMAZING-COLOR/223949797642?hash=item342472b90a:g:asQAAOSw6nNecWtF

The Description for the kane-and-romita lot states:  "1967 RARE Topps Wacky Packages Original DIE CUT. You get the exact card shown in the photos. Thus cars is a beauty !!!"    Probably a hold over from some copy and pasting, but adds to the confusion even more.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 18, 2020, 01:06:01 PM
Interesting how it's a one of a kind piece of art, but there are two listings for it.  Maybe one of them intends to win the other auction and then sell it for more?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 18, 2020, 01:13:27 PM
Interesting how it's a one of a kind piece of art, but there are two listings for it.  Maybe one of them intends to win the other auction and then sell it for more?

One of the sellers must been texting, as he says "Thus cars is a beauty !!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 18, 2020, 01:42:58 PM
Interesting how it's a one of a kind piece of art, but there are two listings for it.  Maybe one of them intends to win the other auction and then sell it for more?
(https://i.postimg.cc/yg94wcBt/carthorse.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yg94wcBt)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 18, 2020, 01:52:03 PM
Interesting how it's a one of a kind piece of art, but there are two listings for it.  Maybe one of them intends to win the other auction and then sell it for more?

They're both Matt Stock.  I guess it's a way to keep the BIN available while bidding is underway.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 18, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
They're both Matt Stock.  I guess it's a way to keep the BIN available while bidding is underway.
I tend to think it's just carelessness in the listings.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 18, 2020, 02:32:11 PM
I tend to think it's just carelessness in the listings.

Could be.  He's got a lot of items to keep track of.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 18, 2020, 08:59:00 PM
They're both Matt Stock.  I guess it's a way to keep the BIN available while bidding is underway.


It is not a BIN it is up for auction with a 149.99 starting bid. think that $51 one would disappear is someone bid on the 149 one?

Carelessness in the listing??? do you really think that? and not something a little more malicious?

Look at that sketch, how can that be confused with anything other than what it is?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 19, 2020, 08:39:24 AM
Look at that sketch, how can that be confused with anything other than what it is?

I agree.  We've all seen careless listings where the description doesn't match the photo, but these are exactly the same, and it's a one of a kind item.  Notice Joe's signature on the back how the J cuts through the O in TOPPS and the m cuts between the s and the .c in TOPPS.COM on both of them.  It's the same photo used for each one.

I guess it's all moot now since the lower-priced auction went down to $24.99 and now has been ended because there was an error in the listing.  Maybe they're reading the forum?  Conspiracy theories?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 19, 2020, 09:12:01 PM
With the ending of the lower listing, just tells me Matt has come up with another way to cheat the bidders and CHEAT the system. Any of you can like and buy from this guy, but in my BOOK is a CROOK. straight up and down! He should be run out of business, instead he's supported. Wake up people.


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Lavirus on April 20, 2020, 02:58:23 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Made-Wacky-Packages-Trading-Card-Album-Binder-Graphics-Only/164166647528?hash=item2639183ee8:g:e3sAAOSwJrdenF18

So you can pay $20 for artwork stolen from Topps. No binder included! Such a deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 20, 2020, 03:54:11 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Made-Wacky-Packages-Trading-Card-Album-Binder-Graphics-Only/164166647528?hash=item2639183ee8:g:e3sAAOSwJrdenF18

So you can pay $20 for artwork stolen from Topps. No binder included! Such a deal!

$9.90 shipping makes it seem even more like you're getting a binder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 21, 2020, 01:47:40 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Made-Wacky-Packages-Trading-Card-Album-Binder-Graphics-Only/164166647528?hash=item2639183ee8:g:e3sAAOSwJrdenF18

So you can pay $20 for artwork stolen from Topps. No binder included! Such a deal!

I guess that's no worse than selling 8x10 photos of Wacky Packages boxes, or the people who sell a book of high quality content by Wikipedia articles!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184184975061
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on April 21, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184184975061
Quote from: above ebay auction
Note: The font used in this book is unusually small and may require magnification, depending on your vision.
Perfect seque to my thoughts on this: I just can't see buying this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 21, 2020, 01:59:49 PM
Perfect seque to my thoughts on this: I just can't see buying this.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on April 21, 2020, 05:17:50 PM
Lavirus,

They should stick to the beautiful custom wacky binder artwork I have up here for everyone for FREE*

Richard
#StayWacky

* Because Topps does not care about us anymore
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 16, 2020, 06:01:53 AM
I can't figure out if I have to pay $15 for shipping or it's free?


(https://i.postimg.cc/zbNfTf4s/Free-shipping.png) (https://postimg.cc/zbNfTf4s)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 17, 2020, 04:24:05 AM
Lavirus,

They should stick to the beautiful custom wacky binder artwork I have up here for everyone for FREE*

Richard
#StayWacky

* Because Topps does not care about us anymore

I bet the production costs make it cost prohibitive.  While I really like the binders, maybe Topps should focus on making the slip in inserts for a three-ring binder and sell those instead.  Or better yet, give them away with set purchases as an incentive rather than putting different backs on the same sticker.  They could be printed on demand at a very low cost.  They used to make sell sheets and even included posters in some of the ANS, Flashback, and Olds sets, when there used to be a box.  So that creative process was there in the past.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 17, 2020, 06:02:04 AM
I bet the production costs make it cost prohibitive.  While I really like the binders, maybe Topps should focus on making the slip in inserts for a three-ring binder and sell those instead.  Or better yet, give them away with set purchases as an incentive rather than putting different backs on the same sticker.  They could be printed on demand at a very low cost.  They used to make sell sheets and even included posters in some of the ANS, Flashback, and Olds sets, when there used to be a box.  So that creative process was there in the past.

The pages for Funny Fiends were really cool, but required that the stickers be peeled and stuck.  I ended up buying an extra set to keep nice.  We card collectors are a strange breed, right?  Or, is it just me  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 17, 2020, 06:25:00 AM
The pages for Funny Fiends were really cool, but required that the stickers be peeled and stuck.  I ended up buying an extra set to keep nice.  We card collectors are a strange breed, right?  Or, is it just me  :o

Not at all.  ;D  For example, remember the make your own Wacky Colorform-like cards that were a chase set for one of the ANS sets? I got one set to leave as is for the binder and another to play around with.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 19, 2020, 12:09:08 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

I have 4 sets I could let go for $40 each and the Crams have a border!  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 19, 2020, 12:25:36 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

I have 4 sets I could let go for $40 each and the Crams have a border!  LOL

Imagine what he would have asked for if he had the whole puzzle!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 19, 2020, 01:55:15 PM
I have 4 sets I could let go for $40 each and the Crams have a border!  LOL

But these are the ultra rare ones!  Besides the Cram's missing border, the White Fowl has a crease on its corner, and the Pounds has a printing flaw.  That's just from a first glance at the poorly taken photos.  What are the odds of finding that combination in a complete set?

I wonder if sellers like this are similar to the guy on Storage Wars who was convinced he found a $2,000 original Nintendo in one of his lockers.  When Darrell Sheets convinced him to get it valued, it was worth about $20.  I see so many sellers thinking that their Wacky Packages finds are worth a fortune.  There's a Paul Maul 1st white with a BIN price of $585 currently listed with a condition of EX at best.  I guess there's a sucker born every minute who just might buy it for that price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Yubum on May 19, 2020, 02:36:28 PM
Worried I might have overpaid for the series I just bought via eBay described as NM-/NM (with both versions of Cram) for $60. Feeling better after seeing the listing above!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 19, 2020, 02:45:57 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-VINTAGE-WACKY-PACKAGES-COMPLETE-SET-5th-SERIES/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

I have 4 sets I could let go for $40 each and the Crams have a border!  LOL
I first pointed out this auction in Dec 2016, it's been running, on and off, that long. And this is the second time that you've pointed it out to us in this thread, LOL. At least you're consistent.  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 20, 2020, 09:26:17 AM
I first pointed out this auction in Dec 2016, it's been running, on and off, that long. And this is the second time that you've pointed it out to us in this thread, LOL. At least you're consistent.  :P

sorry, early onset of dementia setting in.... :0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on May 20, 2020, 09:54:54 AM
sorry, early onset of dementia setting in.... :0

Nothing wrong with pointing out how long the damn thing has been up there with the seller keeping the same moronic price and flawed "ultra rare" description!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 20, 2020, 11:22:45 AM
Nothing wrong with pointing out how long the damn thing has been up there with the seller keeping the same moronic price and flawed "ultra rare" description!

thanks for having my "wacky" back...  :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on May 20, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
Nothing wrong with pointing out how long the damn thing has been up there with the seller keeping the same moronic price and flawed "ultra rare" description!

The seller’s real name is . . . PT Barnum.

But even the sucker of all suckers shouldn’t (and apparently won’t) fall for this one.

eBay should have a rule limiting how many times you can re-list until you have to lower the starting bid by a minimum percentage.  But then, all they’re thinking of is their fee percentages on a $1,500 sale.  They’d rather wait 5 years than settle for less.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 27, 2020, 07:26:31 AM
I think this one qualifies for this thread.......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-FAMOUS-MOBSTERS-MINT-Series-15-Packs-TOUGH/153941372597?hash=item23d79eeeb5%3Ag%3AG5cAAOSwxW9eoYKY&LH_Auction=1

Hey, at least it is "Mint!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 27, 2020, 10:39:34 AM
This is an interesting lot, but what’s everyone think of the price tag?  eBay auction: #362065669653
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 27, 2020, 10:48:00 AM
I think this one qualifies for this thread.......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-FAMOUS-MOBSTERS-MINT-Series-15-Packs-TOUGH/153941372597?hash=item23d79eeeb5%3Ag%3AG5cAAOSwxW9eoYKY&LH_Auction=1

Hey, at least it is "Mint!!"

The solution to this mystery is that this guy just stole Mike Assante’s auction text verbatim...only Mike is selling a PSA 9 of this card, which is one of the toughest titles from the 15th series to find in that grade. Primarily because most of the cards look more like the “nuts” seller’s copy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-FAMOUS-MOBSTERS-PSA-9-MINT-Series-15-Packs-TOUGH/372717866208?hash=item56c7b74ce0:g:GwEAAOSwMPBdNRJ5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 27, 2020, 10:49:46 AM
This is an interesting lot, but what’s everyone think of the price tag?  eBay auction: #362065669653

If I had $20K to spend on wackys right now, this would not be the direction I would go in. 😂
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 27, 2020, 11:08:50 AM
If I had $20K to spend on wackys right now, this would not be the direction I would go in. 😂

I'll sock my money away for my future Ratz.  🎵🎵  Somedaaay... my Ratz will come... 🎵🎵
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 27, 2020, 02:08:04 PM
I love it when you get an email like this from eBay.  It makes you wonder what they're thinking.

The original one I was watching for $100.49 had free shipping.  The one that saves me $15.50 has $25 shipping.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DWGHswrS/e-Bay-Tokyo.png) (https://postimg.cc/DWGHswrS)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 05, 2020, 10:41:56 AM
I am not even sure where to begin with this one.  Auction says WB (white back), it is a tan back.  It is a Wonderbread not a series 1, they even show a close up of the hard corner die cut for the cap, and somehow PSA gave this piece of crap an 8!!  At least it has a qualifier.....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-1-Lavirus-PSA-8-ST-WB-Cut/114190784239?hash=item1a964d16ef:g:IoQAAOSw2VdeD2gx
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: drono on June 05, 2020, 11:47:00 AM
I am not even sure where to begin with this one.  Auction says WB (white back), it is a tan back.  It is a Wonderbread not a series 1, they even show a close up of the hard corner die cut for the cap, and somehow PSA gave this piece of crap an 8!!  At least it has a qualifier.....

At least the seller identified it as a mistaken identity by PSA and says that it was priced accordingly. 

After all the scandals going on with sports card submissions, I'm not sure who would even trust PSA anymore to 1) correctly identify the item and 2) give it a fair and consistent valuation.  I have to admit that #1 can be difficult with all the variations, but #2 should be the whole reason to trust them.  The concept of authenticating cards and assigning a consistent grade should be a simple one, but alas absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bigtomi on June 05, 2020, 03:32:15 PM
I am not even sure where to begin with this one.  Auction says WB (white back), it is a tan back.  It is a Wonderbread not a series 1, they even show a close up of the hard corner die cut for the cap, and somehow PSA gave this piece of crap an 8!!  At least it has a qualifier.....
Yeah, the WB in this case means Wonder Bread, not White Back, hence "WB [die]Cut". Still way overpriced for what it is...n't.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 09, 2020, 07:59:14 AM
Yeah, the WB in this case means Wonder Bread, not White Back, hence "WB [die]Cut". Still way overpriced for what it is...n't.
Ah, that makes sense.  Although I have seen PSA's that spell out Wonderbread.  I guess that is why I assumed white back.  The grade, however does not!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 12, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
I guess if I offered a 2nd and 3rd set for $1000, it'd be a bargain...any takers?

eBay auction: #184325284290
 :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 12, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
I guess if I offered a 2nd and 3rd set for $1000, it'd be a bargain...any takers?

eBay auction: #184325284290
 :-\

Not to mention the first thing shown are two checklist completely marked off. Not a great way to start off your "mint" collection!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 12, 2020, 02:04:47 PM
Not to mention the first thing shown are two checklist completely marked off. Not a great way to start off your "mint" collection!

But you'll get $100 eBay bucks!

I wonder if some sellers do any research before listing? 

This came across in one of my searches today. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153968507695

After reading his description, I have no idea why he thinks this would be worth $2000 or whose autographs he's talking about that are worth $100.  Granted, he's into sports cards, but he's got a lot of listings on eBay, so a little research on the autographs of the better known names (Karch Kiraly, Sinjin Smith, Mike Dodd) says that they won't move at $10.  I've bought a handful of these on eBay with more autographs, some from this era and some that were even older, and the most I ever paid was $40.  I've even gotten a couple of them for $0.99, because usually I'm the only bidder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on June 14, 2020, 10:59:05 AM
Not to mention the first thing shown are two checklist completely marked off. Not a great way to start off your "mint" collection!

These way overpriced type of auctions have existed since the advent of Ebay.  My question is, why don't these people  do 1 minute of research right here on Ebay to see what their items go for? If his sets were really in nice shape (doubt it) and he sold them separately with nice up close pics, he may get $150 for the pair.  $10,000?  He must think he is sitting on a gold mine.

Note to self:  any unslabbed wackys listed as MINT in brand new condition......  RUN!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 14, 2020, 11:20:49 AM
Do you wanna tell 'im or should I? eBay auction: #363047638194
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 14, 2020, 11:28:37 AM
Do you wanna tell 'im or should I? eBay auction: #363047638194

Those stickers are not appeeling.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 14, 2020, 11:30:29 AM
Do you wanna tell 'im or should I? eBay auction: #363047638194

It has a bid at $99!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on July 14, 2020, 01:41:43 PM
I'm really on the border - less the funds to bid on this auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 14, 2020, 01:57:24 PM
Seems legit. It really is “Hard to Find” THAT many of those types of cards all in one auction.
Can’t say I’ve ever actually looked for them though 😁
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on July 18, 2020, 01:22:27 PM
These way overpriced type of auctions have existed since the advent of Ebay.  My question is, why don't these people  do 1 minute of research right here on Ebay to see what their items go for? If his sets were really in nice shape (doubt it) and he sold them separately with nice up close pics, he may get $150 for the pair.  $10,000?  He must think he is sitting on a gold mine.

Note to self:  any unslabbed wackys listed as MINT in brand new condition......  RUN!

it never stops....  :(

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-2nd-Series-Old-Gloom-Toothpaste-White-Back/283493121800?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Dba038ef9344248b78e640863bb6075f0%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D401761570220%26itm%3D283493121800%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 18, 2020, 05:50:10 PM
it never stops....  :(

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Original-2nd-Series-Old-Gloom-Toothpaste-White-Back/283493121800?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Dba038ef9344248b78e640863bb6075f0%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D401761570220%26itm%3D283493121800%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

But it's 12% off!   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on July 21, 2020, 04:15:06 PM
I finally get to contribute to this thread!  Saw this today & had a good out-loud laugh...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-21-Jolly-Mean-Giant-CUT-OUT/173320426522?hash=item285ab3d41a:g:6KMAAOSw401aQGuC

I'm thinking it's pretty rare considering it would have to be first documented as a #21, and then punched afterwards... which would be crazy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 12, 2020, 12:36:17 PM
It's nice to see that someone thinks a bunch of Wacky Packages stuck on a worthless old 20 cent Mead folder makes it worth $27.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324324127974
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 12, 2020, 01:06:18 PM
It's nice to see that someone thinks a bunch of Wacky Packages stuck on a worthless old 20 cent Mead folder makes it worth $27.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324324127974

As they say on AMERICAN PICKERS, "It's the patina".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 12, 2020, 06:01:09 PM
It's nice to see that someone thinks a bunch of Wacky Packages stuck on a worthless old 20 cent Mead folder makes it worth $27.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324324127974
I can only think of two reasons why listings like this happen:

1) the seller is offering their own recently discovered childhood relic, and they’re so amazed at seeing the Wackys again, they figure the prospective buyer will be similarly blown away by this ‘rare find’.

2) the seller thinks they’ve found the only surviving Wackys in existence, and because you can see and read them, they’re in collectible condition and highly desirable.

Two seconds of common sense and/or internet research would shoot down both of these opinions, but it just doesn’t happen.  Some sellers can’t be bothered doing any homework whatsoever.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on October 12, 2020, 08:56:10 PM
Not sure if this is exactly the right thread, but just saw these on Etsy & wondered what kind of havoc they're going to cause when they turn up at a Garage Sale and someone who's never owned original art thinks they've stumbled on a gold mine...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/779357859/wacky-packages-1970s-topps-matted-8x10?ga_order=price_desc&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=wacky+packages&ref=sr_gallery-2-15&organic_search_click=1 (https://www.etsy.com/listing/779357859/wacky-packages-1970s-topps-matted-8x10?ga_order=price_desc&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=wacky+packages&ref=sr_gallery-2-15&organic_search_click=1)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on October 13, 2020, 06:12:05 AM
Not sure if this is exactly the right thread, but just saw these on Etsy & wondered what kind of havoc they're going to cause when they turn up at a Garage Sale and someone who's never owned original art thinks they've stumbled on a gold mine...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/779357859/wacky-packages-1970s-topps-matted-8x10?ga_order=price_desc&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=wacky+packages&ref=sr_gallery-2-15&organic_search_click=1 (https://www.etsy.com/listing/779357859/wacky-packages-1970s-topps-matted-8x10?ga_order=price_desc&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=wacky+packages&ref=sr_gallery-2-15&organic_search_click=1)

Not to mention if Topps will send them a C&D for reproducing their artwork and selling for profit.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 13, 2020, 06:25:23 AM
Looks like they just chopped up an Abrams book and framed some pages
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 13, 2020, 09:25:37 AM
Two seconds of common sense and/or internet research would shoot down both of these opinions, but it just doesn’t happen.  Some sellers can’t be bothered doing any homework whatsoever.

This seller has been on eBay since Jul 18, 1997, so you would think they would know better by now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on October 13, 2020, 06:36:15 PM
Patrick....

#Facts

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHA

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 18, 2020, 11:05:17 PM
Very interesting article,
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 21, 2020, 06:36:49 PM
Um, what now?????


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-5th-series-vintage-lot-of-5-1973-4/264250313400?hash=item3d868bcab8%3Ag%3AtUAAAOSwUn9aOThI&LH_BO=1

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on October 21, 2020, 07:01:08 PM
Um, what now?????


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-5th-series-vintage-lot-of-5-1973-4/264250313400?hash=item3d868bcab8%3Ag%3AtUAAAOSwUn9aOThI&LH_BO=1

Two Ha-Ha's and a marked up checklist.  Grab that bargain.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on October 22, 2020, 09:23:59 AM
Two Ha-Ha's and a marked up checklist.  Grab that bargain.
Not to mention that two of the stickers are 6th series.  Make an offer of 50 cents (which is probably being generous) and see what they say!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on October 22, 2020, 09:45:13 AM
I'm surprised he didn't tout that marked up checklist as "one of a kind", since no other checklist is marked up in exactly the same way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 22, 2020, 11:14:29 AM
I'm surprised he didn't tout that marked up checklist as "one of a kind", since no other checklist is marked up in exactly the same way.

That reminds me of the guy that was selling a Jerkins sticker with a torn border as a one of a kind misprint for $100.  I actually reached out and tried to explain to him what he has was not a printing error, but rather, just a worthless common sticker with a torn border.  He was not convinced.  So, I took a jerkins sticker and ripped the border exactly like his was and send him a picture of me holding it in my hand so he knew I didn't just use his pic.  not surprisingly, he never got back to me.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 22, 2020, 12:36:46 PM
Um, what now?????

You have to pay extra because the stickers and checklist are "distressed."  So four stickers at $1 each, a checklist in marked condition at $1 plus $135 for "distressing."  I've heard that can be quite expensive to do it correctly.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on October 22, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
You have to pay extra because the stickers and checklist are "distressed."  So four stickers at $1 each, a checklist in marked condition at $1 plus $135 for "distressing."  I've heard that can be quite expensive to do it correctly.

I think you need a CPD -- Certified Public Distresser.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 22, 2020, 12:40:44 PM
I think you need a CPD -- Certified Public Distresser.

That also requires a witness to ensure that the distressing was actually done too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 26, 2020, 05:05:38 PM
Heads up!  There is an ultra rare lot of borderless wackys on Ebay right now.... must be a printing error!! :)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/173-Lot-of-Vintage-1973-1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-Series-1-9/154134013326?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item23e31a658e:g:l~cAAOSwTYlfgggc&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkxGz2ccqatkEnoeekHqhLkS2P%252FFv0Y4lihjTBRyxs0tjsqKA9zs178ptqpIX59vALSoiSO7qYLmo7OnQn7Z5Okx4GExuGuPbo5b90zSVVadughk7O3KbX4ZiDGDJg82Jo%252BtlA%252FvzVDT6FVfbnfySlGoKAuXuhJBiJJPQ319W%252B2ESXYeFyxkVWv5Z0Nhf8xEOVDXTBoTUZ0F7s7Tdlx0i2au3xTdTahRZsb6oVcuewoTt8nqmAwsta4xsZ3eVUqEg9SIZ7ebaI6nqjmXdoR%252FEBsJf56ezFRPMXhTDUhwCsFs0peaz7mGsoTMsMxxgO1Q%252FHneWh2LCVpx9hszukrMFEaeB6seU0KANpFDcALf6euGZspvW%252Fk7hyuiM2RPPdtlaXz75x8SKy2Jci1C%252FjlH%252FzwH9D1kT%252Fzh0epkn%252FeLfZA0T2T5TsaOl9l7rQz%252FbIjpzWAt2weUOHGqPA%252BjSxPsUM%252F4KKXW2uoppdemNGdqCKTaEdxS8J0dPuIbSXw14sRMKibh6lGgWAl0eixc%252FKdrXikjuKXFi%252FsuzoQBmRhzEM10MLVJD1NuB2hb7NvLACXxaCL2hVYrmkXj7mPPc2fNORct7XiJ7Kpykm1rnwY%252FVyfzw6bQux0QXXC8FsMXEcow2WyOOtm5KtFEzZVxuU7SHA65UxbLmkFINQAIoDJ3eOI5GOd%252FD%252BJI5f24yt4Q9w29rVvysgprmqbWQO7ih4sIk0UUmDkNDRZOjBgFkrb4O0gq9ZGYHgMJlCRmYDlGQ%252Fk7AymsLTO9ZLj40uGl3EcDtUfQ%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A154134013326b6bcc3218c7e40c7a1ea2eafee30fe61%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on October 28, 2020, 04:31:36 PM
OMG!!!!!!

I MUST BREAK INTO MY COOKIE JAR RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 28, 2020, 05:52:23 PM
The sad thing is that some dumbass kid from the 70s had a rocking collection of Wackys but decided it was necessary to “personalize” them by peeling off the borders.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on October 28, 2020, 08:57:37 PM
The sad thing is that some dumbass kid from the 70s had a rocking collection of Wackys but decided it was necessary to “personalize” them by peeling off the borders.

I never knew then that people did that. I pulled them off once or twice after peeling the stickers, but I wouldn't have seen the point of removing the borders. Unless this was someone who bought these in bargain bins for 25 cents each and hopes to quintuple his investment.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 30, 2020, 04:37:53 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Jay-Lynch-Original-Art-Sketch-PUPSI-Lynch-Signed/274546185725?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3Dedccc7dcdc3142f49562316b604af5cf%26pid%3D100667%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D164477070906%26itm%3D274546185725%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2334524%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2334524.c100667.m2042

This listing is for a 1974 Topps Wacky Packages Jay Lynch Original Art / Sketch PUPSI COLA Lynch Signed.

So these auctions are for PHOTOCOPIES of a sketch and NOT the sketch as suggested in the auction heading.  the seller seems to think merely stating that Jay photo copied his sketches later in the description of the auction would indicate to the seller that you are only getting a photo copy.  I highlighted to the seller that the way he has worded this is misleading but he disagrees so I wanted to warn any potential bidders. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 30, 2020, 09:30:34 AM
From reading the letter that the seller received from Jay with the art, even the “original”, to the extent that Jay could have provided it post-OS era, is in itself a photocopy.  So the only question becomes how many generations of xeroxing before one reaches the print that is displayed.  Not hard to tell from the image itself that it’s probably been xeroxed two or three times.

The more intriguing question for me is how this collector got such a trove of goodies from Jay.  Did he have to pay for them, or did Jay send just for the asking assuming they’re only copies of copies anyway?  Probably the handwritten letter is the most valuable part of this whole exchange.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 30, 2020, 12:09:03 PM
From reading the letter that the seller received from Jay with the art, even the “original”, to the extent that Jay could have provided it post-OS era, is in itself a photocopy.  So the only question becomes how many generations of xeroxing before one reaches the print that is displayed.  Not hard to tell from the image itself that it’s probably been xeroxed two or three times.

The more intriguing question for me is how this collector got such a trove of goodies from Jay.  Did he have to pay for them, or did Jay send just for the asking assuming they’re only copies of copies anyway?  Probably the handwritten letter is the most valuable part of this whole exchange.
It was only thru reading the letter that I really understood the auction was for nothing more than a xerox.  Is the letter included in the auction?  Is the letter a xerox too?  Crazy how little interest this seller has in being specific.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 30, 2020, 12:44:59 PM
It was only thru reading the letter that I really understood the auction was for nothing more than a xerox.  Is the letter included in the auction?  Is the letter a xerox too?  Crazy how little interest this seller has in being specific.
Agreed, it’s all too common for there to be guesswork involved.  I was looking at a desk calendar listed on eBay, and in one place the description said ‘calendar envelope’, while elsewhere it said ‘new calendar in envelope’.  Probably the latter, but can’t assume.  People will list a magazine ‘cover only’ and actually believe it’s worth something.  I find myself asking questions of sellers way more often than I did years back.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 30, 2020, 04:56:44 PM
If all of these sheets are really Jay’s first generation photocopies, as indicated by the letter, and all hand signed by him, then these are a fantastic treasure trove of the clearest versions of Jay’s work.
Why the seller wouldn’t promote these for what they are, if so, is bewildering.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 30, 2020, 08:50:05 PM
If all of these sheets are really Jay’s first generation photocopies, as indicated by the letter, and all hand signed by him, then these are a fantastic treasure trove of the clearest versions of Jay’s work.
Why the seller wouldn’t promote these for what they are, if so, is bewildering.

I agree.  I contacted Jay back in the mid 90's and obtained a bunch of roughs from him for free...  wackys as well as Odd Rods and Garbage Pail Kids roughs....   unfortunately I sold them on Ebay.....  I wish I had then now...  I still have the 2 original art pieces he did for me in 2001.  I think I was one of the first collectors to ask him to do artwork for me.  A few years later, he was too busy to take individual requests for paintings....   8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 12, 2020, 02:26:25 PM
Not really on topic, but I just got this message from eBay when I deleted something from my watched items list.  WTFO?

(https://i.postimg.cc/SjCTRbsN/e-Bay-Weird.png) (https://postimg.cc/SjCTRbsN)

Now I'm wishing I had clicked on the hyperlink to see exactly what I listed.  I wonder who the message was for, and if they're wondering how they deleted something from their watched items list while they were listing this.  An eBay search for the title produced 0 results.  Remove the apostrophe from cow's and you get some really interested results matching fewer words.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 12, 2020, 03:40:41 PM
I did not list cow’s eggs and spam, I did not list it, eBay you am.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on November 12, 2020, 04:52:55 PM
Pffft...lol. Been a long time since I laughed out loud...........thanks
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on November 12, 2020, 06:06:21 PM
Not really on topic, but I just got this message from eBay when I deleted something from my watched items list.  WTFO?

(https://i.postimg.cc/SjCTRbsN/e-Bay-Weird.png) (https://postimg.cc/SjCTRbsN)

Now I'm wishing I had clicked on the hyperlink to see exactly what I listed.  I wonder who the message was for, and if they're wondering how they deleted something from their watched items list while they were listing this.  An eBay search for the title produced 0 results.  Remove the apostrophe from cow's and you get some really interested results matching fewer words.
I once got a message just as weird following a Paypal checkout - message said “Hi heather!” and “ham0706” or something like that, presumably “Heather’s” user ID.  Utterly baffling.  And the user interface functionality goes off-kilter for weeks on end at times, with no changes in settings on the user’s part.  Navigating Watched Items has been a real joy lately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 12, 2020, 07:35:49 PM
Well, the item I "deleted" is back on my list.  I've been trying to delete it for over a week now, but it won't go away.  I used to get the message that it couldn't be deleted and to try again later.  So I tried again, and got the same message about listing the Spam and Eggs book as before.  I looked at the hyperlinks now, and they all go back to my summary page.  However when I go to the actual item, it doesn't show that I'm watching it.  I guess the new eBay UI is having some issues.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 16, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
It's nice to see that someone thinks a bunch of Wacky Packages stuck on a worthless old 20 cent Mead folder makes it worth $27.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324324127974

I appreciate a bit of humor in a description. This guy Jon says the fact his name was written on the folder when he was 7 years old is "provenance" . . . That he says the folder is, "A one-of-a-kind, true handmade vintage piece!" is puzzling. I guess I create folk art every time I use postage stamps.

(https://i.imgur.com/NJxjaRK.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 23, 2020, 11:11:45 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-1977-Topps-Wacky-Packages-16th-Series-16-Complete-Sticker-Set-30-30-EX/383753656228?hash=item59598017a4:g:q4kAAOSwe~ZffJwt

This set is not even the routine and customary NRMT  condition that most of us have...  and with no puzzle?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 24, 2020, 10:12:25 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Burpsi-Cola-Sticker-Trading-Card-Vintage-1974/254648060183?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225086%26meid%3Dd3c4a64bbd584604a2fde586fdfde76c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D363184313018%26itm%3D254648060183%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Here is another seller who has not done 1 minute of research before putting a bunch of these on Ebay...  he admits they are VG at best, so maybe 50 cents each, but lists them at $40 each and then puts them on sale for $16$....    wow!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on November 24, 2020, 03:40:00 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Burpsi-Cola-Sticker-Trading-Card-Vintage-1974/254648060183?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225086%26meid%3Dd3c4a64bbd584604a2fde586fdfde76c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D363184313018%26itm%3D254648060183%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Here is another seller who has not done 1 minute of research before putting a bunch of these on Ebay...  he admits they are VG at best, so maybe 50 cents each, but lists them at $40 each and then puts them on sale for $16$....    wow!!
The little stands are cool though...
Title: it Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on November 27, 2020, 09:18:28 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1980-3rd-Series-Beastball-160-Sticker-Rare-White-Back/114448790083?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225086%26meid%3D340d63950fc54bf88ac0b389845b5bdb%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D353203241681%26itm%3D114448790083%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

LOL!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 27, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
You've got to wonder if they're just blind.  What about the Beastball puzzle on the back makes it a white back?  Because the border is white (instead of black like the OPC OS 3rd series)?  I think I'll ask.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 27, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
And what about that 1975 in the image. So many years, so, so confusing!   :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 27, 2020, 01:43:34 PM
The shipping is more than the sticker is worth.



jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 04, 2020, 10:44:23 AM
Here is a great lot to pick up on Ebay!  It is soo refreshing to see the seller is asking the rock bottom price of only $5000 due to the hard times we find ourselves in.  Did I mention that there a several rare border-less stickers and most are in VG or poor condition? That just proves they have been played with....  soo nostalgic.   I will bid with confidence knowing this seller did absolutely NO research before putting this ultra rare lot on Ebay for such a rock bottom price.   Act fast to pick up these rare mid range stickers while you can.   :o :-\ :-X >:D 8) >(

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wacky-Packages-LOT-OF-257-Cards-L-k/184556908794?hash=item2af872f0fa:g:5awAAOSwJX5fweEa
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 04, 2020, 11:49:58 AM
but there is a pupsi and a heavy in there.  That has to count for something? :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 04, 2020, 11:53:12 AM
but there is a pupsi and a heavy in there.  That has to count for something? :]
Why, yes! $2495 each for those...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 04, 2020, 12:00:35 PM
I would offer maybe $100 for the lot...  only to complete my many extra mid grades near sets I have.  I hold on to them for anyone looking to create a 1-16, but are not looking for NRMT...  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 04, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
When I see something like this, I always find it interesting to look at the other items the seller has listed to see if they are all as outrageously priced.  I'm nowhere near an expert on anything else he has, but they all seem to be a little higher than normal but not this high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 06, 2020, 12:23:34 PM
Below is another Ebay auction which blows my mind.  Some folks ignore them, but I just don't get it.  How can the seller think these are worth what he is asking?  If I saw them at a garage sale, I would offer $5 with the hopes of making some magnets out of them or to "stick them all over the place"......  have fun with this one....  8)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-200-Cards-VG-Very-Good-Condition-Cards-1970s-2000s/164562740455?hash=item2650b424e7:g:i0MAAOSwtllfzSst
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 06, 2020, 12:29:09 PM
Below is another Ebay auction which blows my mind.  Some folks ignore them, but I just don't get it.  How can the seller think these are worth what he is asking?  If I saw them at a garage sale, I would offer $5 with the hopes of making some magnets out of them or to "stick them all over the place"......  have fun with this one....  8)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-200-Cards-VG-Very-Good-Condition-Cards-1970s-2000s/164562740455?hash=item2650b424e7:g:i0MAAOSwtllfzSst
   I get frustrated looking for deals on Ebay just like you;  I can't help myself sometimes and message them telling them to do some actual research and contemplate changing the asking price, at the same time make it sound as if I am helping them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 06, 2020, 12:41:45 PM
   I get frustrated looking for deals on Ebay just like you;  I can't help myself sometimes and message them telling them to do some actual research and contemplate changing the asking price, at the same time make it sound as if I am helping them.

I no longer support or use Evil-Bay or Pay(up)Pal, as I often had too many problems.  When I was active on Ebay I often would reach out to the clueless sellers.  Most would act all offended and accept no constructive criticism at all.  So I quickly gave up trying.  I now rely on this forum for anything I am looking for and it has worked out quite well.  I don't collect the new titles, only 1-16 and related sets like die cuts, Old School etc....  any stickers with the original 1-16 titles I am willing to collect.  I primarily use Cash App to pay people now, but will pay check for larger or more expensive lots if I have too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 06, 2020, 01:04:53 PM
I no longer support or use Evil-Bay or Pay(up)Pal, as I often had too many problems.  When I was active on Ebay I often would reach out to the clueless sellers.  Most would act all offended and accept no constructive criticism at all.  So I quickly gave up trying.  I now rely on this forum for anything I am looking for and it has worked out quite well.  I don't collect the new titles, only 1-16 and related sets like die cuts, Old School etc....  any stickers with the original 1-16 titles I am willing to collect.  I primarily use Cash App to pay people now, but will pay check for larger or more expensive lots if I have too.

I absolutely prefer to sell and trade here, but have not had any problems doing that with paypal friends.  A few people still send cash or checks, and I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 08, 2020, 09:24:33 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Wearies-2nd-White-Back-NM-Card/274604124862?hash=item3fefae6abe:g:W1MAAOSwxs1fT5gr

1975 nope
wearies nope
2nd nope
NM nope

Other than the above, the seller nailed the details....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 09, 2020, 06:08:19 AM
I absolutely prefer to sell and trade here, but have not had any problems doing that with paypal friends.  A few people still send cash or checks, and I'm OK with that.

Because of the new eBay managed payments program paypal is losing a lot of money on eBay items. As a result they have been cracking down on sellers who use PayPal F&F to avoid fees, and have suspended accounts and held balances for 6 months. From what I have heard it has been mostly high dollar, repeat offenders though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 09, 2020, 06:38:33 AM
Because of the new eBay managed payments program paypal is losing a lot of money on eBay items. As a result they have been cracking down on sellers who use PayPal F&F to avoid fees, and have suspended accounts and held balances for 6 months. From what I have heard it has been mostly high dollar, repeat offenders though.

Perhaps we will go back to the early ebay days and start asking for checks and money orders.  I remember when they would not allow listers to even add a paypal link to auctions, but then they bought paypal, and starting requiring it.

Any idea what Paypal considers "high dollar" F&F transfers?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 09, 2020, 06:39:42 AM
they have been cracking down on sellers who use PayPal F&F to avoid fees, and have suspended accounts and held balances for 6 months. From what I have heard it has been mostly high dollar, repeat offenders though.

I'm not an eBay seller, but I had my account temporarily suspended earlier this year.  The message mentioned something about selling items, but I've never sold anything and used PayPal.  I simply had to fill out their form and let them know that I only use PayPal to pay for eBay purchases and to send money to family and friends.  Even though the form submission said it could take up to 3 days to have someone review it, they unblocked my account within a few hours.  So apparently their testing algorithm does produce some false positives just like every other one in the world.  So much for AI and fuzzy logic.

(https://i.postimg.cc/n9QnXnr1/Pay-Pal-block-notice.png) (https://postimg.cc/n9QnXnr1)(https://i.postimg.cc/1fw9PRLm/Pay-Pal-restored-notice.png) (https://postimg.cc/1fw9PRLm)


I think I was flagged because I make a charitable donation of $50 weekly through PayPal.  That would seem to suggest a pattern of paying for goods and services.

Perhaps we will go back to the early ebay days and start asking for checks and money orders.

I certainly hope not.  I hated those days.  I haven't sold anything since 1998, and having to take a check or a money order to my bank and then wait for it to clear was brutal.  I also traveled a lot without my checkbook, so getting a money order was also a hassle along with the extra wait time for the seller to send the item.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 09, 2020, 06:56:17 AM
Perhaps we will go back to the early ebay days and start asking for checks and money orders.  I remember when they would not allow listers to even add a paypal link to auctions, but then they bought paypal, and starting requiring it.

Any idea what Paypal considers "high dollar" F&F transfers?

A comic book dealer I consigned some books to over the summer sent me $2300 via F&F without telling me he was going to, and included a note referencing the books involved. I was sure I was going to get in trouble over it but nothing happened. Like Doc Ono says, I think they are less concerned with isolated incidents than a pattern of ongoing significant sales.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 09, 2020, 07:34:02 AM
A comic book dealer I consigned some books to over the summer sent me $2300 via F&F without telling me he was going to, and included a note referencing the books involved. I was sure I was going to get in trouble over it but nothing happened. Like Doc Ono says, I think they are less concerned with isolated incidents than a pattern of ongoing significant sales.
Paypal is selling transaction insurance thru their fee and they are trying to bully people into buying this transaction protecting.  If they suspend accounts, they will lose all the transactions to Venmo.  I buy and sell through facebook marketplace all the time and the transactions are F and F with no fees with the risk being paypal won't intervene on the transaction if something goes wrong.  they make no money providing this service so I suspect eventually there will be no such thing as F and F when Venmo and paypal collude on this making all transactions have a fee. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 09, 2020, 08:15:47 AM
Perhaps we will go back to the early ebay days and start asking for checks and money orders.
Bite your tongue! Like drono, I hated all that. So much extra time and effort spent. I understand wanting to go back to prior to 2020, but not that far...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 09, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
Bite your tongue! Like drono, I hated all that. So much extra time and effort spent. I understand wanting to go back to prior to 2020, but not that far...


I have been using CashApp on my phone for over a year and have had no issues at all and takes like 10 seconds to send someone money
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 09, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Bite your tongue! Like drono, I hated all that. So much extra time and effort spent. I understand wanting to go back to prior to 2020, but not that far...

I hated it too. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 10, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Anyone want to outbid the high bidder?!  And this amount doesn't include 20% buyer's premium.

https://www.milehighcardco.com/1967_Topps_Wacky_Packs__21_Moron_Salt_PSA_9_MINT-LOT74575.aspx
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 10, 2020, 04:43:06 PM
Anyone want to outbid the high bidder?!  And this amount doesn't include 20% buyer's premium.

https://www.milehighcardco.com/1967_Topps_Wacky_Packs__21_Moron_Salt_PSA_9_MINT-LOT74575.aspx
Geez! That is craziness. I get that it's really nice, but...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 10, 2020, 05:02:52 PM
Geez! That is craziness. I get that it's really nice, but...
wow, the craziness is the push on the brightness and contrast. No way that card is snow white. False representation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 10, 2020, 05:31:11 PM
Anyone want to outbid the high bidder?!  And this amount doesn't include 20% buyer's premium.

https://www.milehighcardco.com/1967_Topps_Wacky_Packs__21_Moron_Salt_PSA_9_MINT-LOT74575.aspx
And the seller has 2 pure hexes listed at the same time, pure genius
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2020, 05:44:05 AM
Anyone want to outbid the high bidder?!  And this amount doesn't include 20% buyer's premium.

https://www.milehighcardco.com/1967_Topps_Wacky_Packs__21_Moron_Salt_PSA_9_MINT-LOT74575.aspx

Geez, it ended at $9,298.80 with the premium.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 11, 2020, 05:45:07 AM
   I can't see this selling, I'd say a PSA 9 is a possible grade to ask that much.  I am watching this one. What would the more reasonable value be for this one be? Anyone?  Matt.https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-4th-Series-PSA-7-NEAR-MINT-TOUGH-Card/303806302802?hash=item46bc444a52:g:ZVkAAOSwcMlf028J
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 11, 2020, 06:35:17 AM
   I can't see this selling, I'd say a PSA 9 is a possible grade to ask that much.  I am watching this one. What would the more reasonable value be for this one be? Anyone?  Matt.https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-4th-Series-PSA-7-NEAR-MINT-TOUGH-Card/303806302802?hash=item46bc444a52:g:ZVkAAOSwcMlf028J

Recent sales have two PSA 7s going for $300-400 and a PSA 8 going for $400. If he is asking $475 he will likely accept $250-300.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 11, 2020, 07:57:13 AM
   I can't see this selling, I'd say a PSA 9 is a possible grade to ask that much.  I am watching this one. What would the more reasonable value be for this one be? Anyone?  Matt.https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-4th-Series-PSA-7-NEAR-MINT-TOUGH-Card/303806302802?hash=item46bc444a52:g:ZVkAAOSwcMlf028J

Beautiful centering but overpriced for a PSA 7.  Maybe $175??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 11, 2020, 10:55:55 AM
Darrell always starts high but he will negotiate with you to a fair price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 18, 2020, 03:42:07 PM
$185 seems pretty darn high for this item . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/bHSF4oG.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/723181809/1970s-topps-wacky-pack-stickers-garbage
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Lavirus on December 18, 2020, 04:07:11 PM
Pretty sure you could make this for less than $50 with a plastic garbage can and reissues or Flashbacks.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 18, 2020, 04:18:15 PM
Pretty sure you could make this for less than $50 with a plastic garbage can and reissues or Flashbacks.

Hey, this Forum has no tolerance for trash talkin'...     :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 18, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
Hey, this Forum has no tolerance for trash talkin'...     :D
Can’t imagine anyone would buy that garbage...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on December 18, 2020, 05:49:54 PM
Can’t imagine anyone would buy that garbage...

C'mon, fess-up.  You know that's on your bucket list.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 19, 2020, 12:36:00 AM
Buying that would be a waste.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 19, 2020, 01:35:09 AM
Buying that would be a waste.

You guys are all basket cases!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 19, 2020, 03:58:35 AM
Pretty sure you could make this for less than $50 with a plastic garbage can and reissues or Flashbacks.

But notice the pattern.  Lined up around the top and bottom, but placed everywhere else using a mathematical formula of:

Ft1…tn,tn+1…tn+m(x1…xn,∞…∞)=Ft1…tn(x1…xn), Fti1…tin(xi1…xin)=Ft1…tn(x1…xn)

Besides that, suppose these were all ludlows, wouldn't the two Run Tonys alone make it worth much more than $185?  ;D

I suppose this is a good idea for all those extra ANS base sets that have been taking up space in your collecting closet so far.  I think if I had been buying 10 sets every week, I'd be making my own trash cans to give away as Christmas presents along with special Christmas wrapping paper made out of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: chipereno on December 19, 2020, 11:05:44 AM
I made a table out of a 55 gallon drum.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LJB0nBQ5/36-CE4128-7-EEB-4-C55-876-A-05-F719-F111-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJB0nBQ5)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on December 19, 2020, 11:40:39 AM
The odds and ends under the glass on top stimulate a lot of conversation I bet, at least with those seeing it for the first time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 19, 2020, 11:45:53 AM
I made a table out of a 55 gallon drum.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LJB0nBQ5/36-CE4128-7-EEB-4-C55-876-A-05-F719-F111-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJB0nBQ5)

That is very cool....  it looks like you have some nice stuff on top, ie.  unopened original series pack? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 19, 2020, 11:46:37 AM
$185 seems pretty darn high for this item . . .

(https://i.imgur.com/bHSF4oG.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/723181809/1970s-topps-wacky-pack-stickers-garbage

That would be our generation's version of garbage pail kids!  :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 26, 2020, 12:38:35 PM
  I am just amazed that someone would actually try to lure anyone into thinking that the Crust is possible to get in this lot. This upsets me because they are obviously praying on the weak in hopes of selling what we all know to be anything but the Crust, they will get junk.https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-WACKY-PACKAGES-MINIS-3D-MINI-FIGURE-MYSTERY-SET-OF-15-COMMONS-NO-DUPES/124502146372?hash=item1cfce7fd44:g:FmkAAOSwKwZfyEVU
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 26, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
  I am just amazed that someone would actually try to lure anyone into thinking that the Crust is possible to get in this lot. This upsets me because they are obviously praying on the weak in hopes of selling what we all know to be anything but the Crust, they will get junk.https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-WACKY-PACKAGES-MINIS-3D-MINI-FIGURE-MYSTERY-SET-OF-15-COMMONS-NO-DUPES/124502146372?hash=item1cfce7fd44:g:FmkAAOSwKwZfyEVU

The description says COMMON LOT..apparently pictures can lie as long as they can fall back on the description.

Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on December 29, 2020, 06:39:06 PM
Oh lordy...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-33-Vintage-Wacky-Packages-Non-Sport-Trading-Cards-Hand-Cut-Trimmed-y5266/203233281722?hash=item2f51a5c6ba:g:zLEAAOSwN5Jf6-al
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 29, 2020, 07:12:11 PM
Oh lordy...

So painful to look at those.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 29, 2020, 08:28:10 PM
Oh lordy...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-33-Vintage-Wacky-Packages-Non-Sport-Trading-Cards-Hand-Cut-Trimmed-y5266/203233281722?hash=item2f51a5c6ba:g:zLEAAOSwN5Jf6-al

I wonder if they know they trimmed $10,000 off of the Ratz and Cracked?

jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 29, 2020, 11:31:17 PM
That was one expensive haircut. I would have rather lost them from childhood than to have known that I did that to them. >( >( >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 30, 2020, 03:31:51 AM
So painful to look at those.

Agreed, it hurts!!  I wonder if they were already punched before they were mutilated, aka "trimmed."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 30, 2020, 09:07:29 AM
As a small kid, I was given a wallet for Christmas with the plastic photo insert.  I vividly remember trimming a Joe Namath football card to get it to fit in the holder.  It was probably from 1969.  It's certainly not a 1K+ mistake, but it's stupid stuff you do when you're a kid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 30, 2020, 11:15:22 AM
As a small kid, I was given a wallet for Christmas with the plastic photo insert.  I vividly remember trimming a Joe Namath football card to get it to fit in the holder.  It was probably from 1969.  It's certainly not a 1K+ mistake, but it's stupid stuff you do when you're a kid.
  LOL,  Well I guess I better keep my mistakes I made to myself then.  Stupid mistakes a plenty.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 30, 2020, 02:17:58 PM
  LOL,  Well I guess I better keep my mistakes I made to myself then.  Stupid mistakes a plenty.

a few punched Ratz and Cracked were floating around years back, and I think they sold on Ebay in the $200-$300 range
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 30, 2020, 08:33:54 PM
a few punched Ratz and Cracked were floating around years back, and I think they sold on Ebay in the $200-$300 range

That's about what I paid for mine.  If I ever manage to get an intact Ratz my punched set of 44 will be up for grabs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 31, 2020, 05:59:11 AM
a few punched Ratz and Cracked were floating around years back, and I think they sold on Ebay in the $200-$300 range

I bought a punched Ratz in terrible shape for $37 on eBay in its early infancy (1998ish)  and a punched Cracked for around $300 a few years ago.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2021, 10:40:42 AM
I bought a punched Ratz in terrible shape for $37 on eBay in its early infancy (1998ish)  and a punched Cracked for around $300 a few years ago.

 :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2021, 10:43:48 AM
  LOL,  Well I guess I better keep my mistakes I made to myself then.  Stupid mistakes a plenty.

another great decision back in the day.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RUN-TONY-SHELLS-CHICKEN-FAT-LAUNDRY-DETERGENT-STICKERS/233419857639?hash=item3658e85ee7:g:uWQAAOSwQXdcpOo5

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on January 11, 2021, 09:25:49 AM
Here's one for the "Are these buyers NUTS???" category.

Someone sold a Plastered Peanuts mini on eBay with an upside down sticker. How easy is that to just remove the sticker with a hairdryer, then reapply it upside down. It's not like the seller put a high buy-it-now asking price on it, but the bids went well over $100 for this!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2020-WACKY-PACKAGES-MINIS-3D-FIGURE-PLASTERED-STICKER-ANOMALY-VERY-RARE-/193757883813?hash=item2d1cdeada5%3Ag%3A4eMAAOSwCp1ftxSg&nma=true&si=9YRHgWhgDpU2oTo4Xb9wES1amNY%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 11, 2021, 10:02:06 AM
I've seen a few auctions on eBay where the entire mini was upside down.  Now that has to be worth something extra doesn't it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 11, 2021, 02:54:39 PM
I've seen a few auctions on eBay where the entire mini was upside down.  Now that has to be worth something extra doesn't it?
I forgot what title it was, I think Putrid, the sticker easily could come off and could be put back on. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 11, 2021, 08:03:42 PM
How much for a Haunt Jemima mini with an upside down sticker?   :a102:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 16, 2021, 08:35:45 AM
Marc - you so funny!

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 17, 2021, 06:36:22 PM
Here's one for the "Are these buyers NUTS???" category.

Someone sold a Plastered Peanuts mini on eBay with an upside down sticker. How easy is that to just remove the sticker with a hairdryer, then reapply it upside down. It's not like the seller put a high buy-it-now asking price on it, but the bids went well over $100 for this!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2020-WACKY-PACKAGES-MINIS-3D-FIGURE-PLASTERED-STICKER-ANOMALY-VERY-RARE-/193757883813?hash=item2d1cdeada5%3Ag%3A4eMAAOSwCp1ftxSg&nma=true&si=9YRHgWhgDpU2oTo4Xb9wES1amNY%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


A few of my rare minis... the FIASCO got by quality control when I opened the pack and the label was loose in the wrapper. I reapplied without my readers on. Voila! And the extremely rare cap less COACHA COLA.



(https://i.postimg.cc/dD8ND2bp/72-F06674-B102-4331-9-B58-7030282-D8883.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dD8ND2bp)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9BVmpPf/DC353069-4-F99-4-E5-F-9-F03-4711468-C4-EBA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9BVmpPf)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 18, 2021, 04:55:22 PM
HAHAHAHAHHAH About to invest in a Sharpee and create some new ULTRA RARE Minis!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 30, 2021, 05:22:58 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-19-Blunder-Advertising-Sticker-Series-1-RARE/164372512700?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111452%26meid%3Dd00d7ca22b9846d5bafc7fc7221a368d%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D283055079289%26itm%3D164372512700%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219

25.00 for a single 1979 reprint card.....  nice.....  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 30, 2021, 05:43:16 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-19-Blunder-Advertising-Sticker-Series-1-RARE/164372512700?_trkparms=aid%3D1110009%26algo%3DSPLICE.COMPLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111452%26meid%3Dd00d7ca22b9846d5bafc7fc7221a368d%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D283055079289%26itm%3D164372512700%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219

25.00 for a single 1979 reprint card.....  nice.....  LOL

I'd say the seller made a big blunder selling at that price.  He'll never made that much dough on that sticker.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on January 30, 2021, 06:53:10 PM
Yeah, that's a lot of bread for that sticker.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 31, 2021, 06:41:54 AM
He has a lot of these listed anywhere from $8.99 to $29.99. 

You can get a complete set for $30 here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184642321364

Here's one for $32 (less if you buy multiple sets) advertised with PSA 10 Mints - although none of them are slabbed in the photo. https://www.ebay.com/itm/274420121233

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 31, 2021, 07:52:53 AM
He has a lot of these listed anywhere from $8.99 to $29.99. 
You can get a complete set for $30 here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184642321364
Here's one for $32 (less if you buy multiple sets) advertised with PSA 10 Mints - although none of them are slabbed in the photo. https://www.ebay.com/itm/274420121233
it doesn't sound like you knead any of them, and already have your Wackys in the bag.

Any way you slice it with these auctions though, you'd be toast if you bought them
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on January 31, 2021, 09:37:36 AM
it doesn't sound like you knead any of them, and already have your Wackys in the bag.

Any way you slice it with these auctions though, you'd be toast if you bought them

I don't want to get crusty, but it gets a rise out of me when these heels try to overcharge.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on January 31, 2021, 09:41:32 AM
At yeast his cards are in decent condition. You gotta loaf that!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on February 07, 2021, 01:22:28 PM
Here is a good one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-1-1-1979-Topps-T-C-G-Chewing-Gum-Sticker-Wacky-Packages-Commie-Cleanser/333882227385?hash=item4dbcee7ab9:g:1cgAAOSwzn9gIEUK
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on February 07, 2021, 01:57:38 PM
Here is a good one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-1-1-1979-Topps-T-C-G-Chewing-Gum-Sticker-Wacky-Packages-Commie-Cleanser/333882227385?hash=item4dbcee7ab9:g:1cgAAOSwzn9gIEUK
   Yes, that's way ridiculous but no interest if paid in full with in 6 months. What a joke. These type of sellers dwell on misinformation and take advantage of people all the time, where is the "fact checkers" on this non sense?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 07, 2021, 03:09:23 PM
That one is friggin' unbelievable.  Since he'll take $99.99, I wonder if Forum members can do the same unpeeling and flipping with stickers like that and sell them to him for $49.99 - after all, he should snap them up to make 100% profit!

That one really wins the nutcake prize.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on February 07, 2021, 04:36:24 PM
This makes me want to list my Ultra Rare, Never Before Seen, Insanely Cool, Quacker Oats with an UPSIDE DOWN label........1/1 FACTORY ERROR!!!
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/v4yqs3h0/Upside-Down-Quacker.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4yqs3h0)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on February 07, 2021, 05:02:47 PM
I like the bread jokes above, guys. They're good.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 07, 2021, 05:17:10 PM
This makes me want to list my Ultra Rare, Never Before Seen, Insanely Cool, Quacker Oats with an UPSIDE DOWN label........1/1 FACTORY ERROR!!!
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/v4yqs3h0/Upside-Down-Quacker.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4yqs3h0)

Sorry, I've got two of those  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 07, 2021, 08:17:21 PM
   Yes, that's way ridiculous but no interest if paid in full with in 6 months. What a joke. These type of sellers dwell on misinformation and take advantage of people all the time, where is the "fact checkers" on this non sense?

I Do hear what you are saying, BUT if someone bites on that one they deserve to be burnt.



Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on February 08, 2021, 02:13:30 AM
     
I Do hear what you are saying, BUT if someone bites on that one they deserve to be burnt.



Jim
  I guess so, I had a back and forth with them about the listing they are very nasty about my trying to point out their misinformation they claim that the sticker was printed upside down and never peeled and printed that way.  An absolute lie, so yes if someone buys it they deserve what they get, garbage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 08, 2021, 02:23:49 AM
       I guess so, I had a back and forth with them about the listing they are very nasty about my trying to point out their misinformation they claim that the sticker was printed upside down and never peeled and printed that way.  An absolute lie, so yes if someone buys it they deserve what they get, garbage.

I could create one of those in seconds!  Hell, I could create a whole set!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 08, 2021, 04:59:13 AM
       I guess so, I had a back and forth with them about the listing they are very nasty about my trying to point out their misinformation they claim that the sticker was printed upside down and never peeled and printed that way.  An absolute lie, so yes if someone buys it they deserve what they get, garbage.

That's why you should never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on February 08, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
That's why you should never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
   Good point, just one of the many reasons I left social media.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 11, 2021, 08:28:52 AM
Here is another "rare" sticker....  Wow!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-1-Camals-Advertising-Sticker-Series-1-RARE/164371274222?_trkparms=aid%3D1110012%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOIPOST%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3D07f82b3690724f8a9e2179566c56f9d2%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D164372512700%26itm%3D164371274222%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 11, 2021, 08:58:38 AM
Here is another "rare" sticker....  Wow!

Same seller - has a bunch of these listed from $8.99 to $29.99.  I wrote to the seller that I though the prices were way off, using this one as an example and sending a link where the entire set could be purchased for this price.  I didn't get a response.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on February 12, 2021, 01:53:57 AM
Check out his sold items. Someone bought a Duxie from him for 8.99.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 12, 2021, 06:19:29 AM
Check out his sold items. Someone bought a Duxie from him for 8.99.

I guess if you're only missing one, or one of those "rainbow" collectors, then $9 is cheaper than paying $30 for the whole set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on February 13, 2021, 01:36:30 AM
I think these people are counting on customers not doing their homework and researching the proper pricing first before buying. The stickers he was selling were beat up and soiled with something disturbing. I got about 500 of those reissues I bought back in the day that are much better than what he is offering. I should get that guy to buy them from me for $4.00 each so he can sell them at a profit
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 17, 2021, 12:54:17 PM
Get it while it's hot! LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Quacker-Oats/224355717585?hash=item343ca491d1:g:au0AAOSwV6VfikRb
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 17, 2021, 01:43:33 PM
Get it while it's hot! LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Quacker-Oats/224355717585?hash=item343ca491d1:g:au0AAOSwV6VfikRb

A rare back-signed and border-peeled combo. I usually save stickers of that caliber to paste on the back of an envelope when trading someone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 17, 2021, 01:46:33 PM
Get it while it's hot! LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Quacker-Oats/224355717585?hash=item343ca491d1:g:au0AAOSwV6VfikRb

Wow, how fantastic, I plan to snipe bid $5,000 on it - can I please get the pledge of all Forum members not to compete with me on it?   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 17, 2021, 08:33:34 PM
Wow, how fantastic, I plan to snipe bid $5,000 on it - can I please get the pledge of all Forum members not to compete with me on it?   :]

I had planned a $6000 snipe, but I will defer to you as a courtesy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 17, 2021, 08:41:42 PM
I had planned a $6000 snipe, but I will defer to you as a courtesy.

Thanks, I owe you one!   :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 21, 2021, 11:57:54 AM
get it while it's hot!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Blow-Dinner-Bam-Sticker-Trading-Card-Vintage-1974/264789965574?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D230925%26meid%3D346010a8adee4459ae4fda7c4fe698cf%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D224270109021%26itm%3D264789965574%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 21, 2021, 12:01:03 PM
get it while it's hot!!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Blow-Dinner-Bam-Sticker-Trading-Card-Vintage-1974/264789965574?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D230925%26meid%3D346010a8adee4459ae4fda7c4fe698cf%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D224270109021%26itm%3D264789965574%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithDarwoV3BBEV2b%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851


save %80 on this sticker, which is a 50 cent sticker for the true collector
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 21, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
save %80 on this sticker
He needs to reduce it 80% again...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on February 21, 2021, 05:59:19 PM
Shocking, he has no sales. I wonder who told him to list almost everything at $49.99 and then discount 80% as a business model.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 22, 2021, 08:41:40 AM
Shocking, he has no sales. I wonder who told him to list almost everything at $49.99 and then discount 80% as a business model.

that was probably due to the corner dings, and overall wear!  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on February 25, 2021, 12:10:56 PM
This has to be the dumbest thing ever or just a complete joke.......https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-3D-Minis-2020-Series-1-Topps-Skimpy-Rare-Error-Upside-Down/224364871070?hash=item343d303d9e:g:nz4AAOSweANgN25H
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 25, 2021, 12:13:34 PM
This has to be the dumbest thing ever or just a complete joke.......https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-3D-Minis-2020-Series-1-Topps-Skimpy-Rare-Error-Upside-Down/224364871070?hash=item343d303d9e:g:nz4AAOSweANgN25H

Given who listed it, I think it absolutely has to be a joke!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on February 25, 2021, 12:22:10 PM
Given who listed it, I think it absolutely has to be a joke!
  Hey Marc,.. and who would that be?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 25, 2021, 01:33:29 PM
  Hey Marc,.. and who would that be?

It was me, and I made a mistake with the picture.  The listing is down now, and I will fix it later.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on February 25, 2021, 07:40:12 PM
It was me, and I made a mistake with the picture.  The listing is down now, and I will fix it later.

Congrats, you made it to the "Are these people NUTS???" topic.   :] :] :]

P.S. I know you aren't nuts....I think.  >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 26, 2021, 12:40:55 AM
Congrats, you made it to the "Are these people NUTS???" topic.   :] :] :]

P.S. I know you aren't nuts....I think.  >:D

An experience I hope will not be repeated.  :sad:

I am mostly just TIRED.  But, I admit, I am a little nuts, and I don't think that was really a secret.  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on February 26, 2021, 08:56:39 PM
This is the thread that just keeps on giving, more than 20 years and thousands of posts since its original incarnation on Delphi. Not bad, considering the question seems to have been resolved long ago. (Except in your case, of course :) I look forward to another two decades of fun reading here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 27, 2021, 09:29:39 AM
Should I complain to seller about this scenario?

I bought a Wacky Mini off eBay, and the seller charged $3.95 for shipping.  Instead of going to the post office and shipping it with proper postage, the seller just put it in a plain envelope and stuck two $0.55 stamps on it.  So when it arrived, I had to pay $2.90 in postage due to get it because the envelope was bulging.  So I feel like I paid almost $7 to ship a $1 mini.  I definitely won't buy from that seller again.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 27, 2021, 09:41:37 AM
Should I complain to seller about this scenario?

I bought a Wacky Mini off eBay, and the seller charged $3.95 for shipping.  Instead of going to the post office and shipping it with proper postage, the seller just put it in a plain envelope and stuck two $0.55 stamps on it.  So when it arrived, I had to pay $2.90 in postage due to get it because the envelope was bulging.  So I feel like I paid almost $7 to ship a $1 mini.  I definitely won't buy from that seller again.

I think you should complain and ask for at least a $3 refund. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Alexeirex on February 27, 2021, 01:02:24 PM
An experience I hope will not be repeated.  :sad:

I am mostly just TIRED.  But, I admit, I am a little nuts, and I don't think that was really a secret.  :P

I'm tired from so many demands from work, and have posted things here and other places and unfortunately at work, where I thought afterwards - DID I POST THAT???!!!
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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on February 27, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
I'm tired from so many demands from work, and have posted things here and other places and unfortunately at work, where I thought afterwards - DID I POST THAT???!!!
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I know exactly what you mean.  When mental fatigue is a factor, mistakes will follow.  Swiski just noted that Dr Nest’s toothbrush had to be shortened for the parody to work in the 2”x3” card format, and I took his comment to mean that the image wasn’t distorted nearly enough to optimally fill the space, and posted accordingly. Where did I get that from?  Misreading his comment?  My own opinion of the parody?  Or end of a long work week?  I believe a combination of all three, plus the tendency sometimes to not read something carefully enough to ensure you really understand the comment.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 27, 2021, 02:58:57 PM
I think you should complain and ask for at least a $3 refund.
I concur, you already paid an appropriate amount for the shipping, the seller stiffed the shipping (USPS?) company, you shouldn't have to cover that. Is it worth your time? That's up to you to decide...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 28, 2021, 04:24:51 AM
Should I complain to seller about this scenario?

I bought a Wacky Mini off eBay, and the seller charged $3.95 for shipping.  Instead of going to the post office and shipping it with proper postage, the seller just put it in a plain envelope and stuck two $0.55 stamps on it.  So when it arrived, I had to pay $2.90 in postage due to get it because the envelope was bulging.  So I feel like I paid almost $7 to ship a $1 mini.  I definitely won't buy from that seller again.
The post office does postage due and sticks it on the receiver?I thought they just wouldn't deliver it in the first place.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on February 28, 2021, 04:41:39 AM
The post office does postage due and sticks it on the receiver?I thought they just wouldn't deliver it in the first place.

That's what I thought, too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on February 28, 2021, 09:21:08 AM
Should I complain to seller about this scenario?

I bought a Wacky Mini off eBay, and the seller charged $3.95 for shipping.  Instead of going to the post office and shipping it with proper postage, the seller just put it in a plain envelope and stuck two $0.55 stamps on it.  So when it arrived, I had to pay $2.90 in postage due to get it because the envelope was bulging.  So I feel like I paid almost $7 to ship a $1 mini.  I definitely won't buy from that seller again.
First, agree with recent posts that charging the receiver additional postage is unheard of.  Shipment should have bounced back to the sender for insufficient postage.

Even more surprising is, where do they come up with $2.90?  The so-called ‘bulging package’ should only involve the non-machinable surcharge, which is no more than 70 cents I believe.  A single mini is definitely within the weight limit for a forever stamp, so the postage should only be 15 cents short by my estimation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
The post office does postage due and sticks it on the receiver?I thought they just wouldn't deliver it in the first place.

I think that if you refuse to pay, they will return to sender. If you want the package, they offer the receiver the option to square the account by paying the postage due.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
First, agree with recent posts that charging the receiver additional postage is unheard of.  Shipment should have bounced back to the sender for insufficient postage.

Even more surprising is, where do they come up with $2.90?  The so-called ‘bulging package’ should only involve the non-machinable surcharge, which is no more than 70 cents I believe.  A single mini is definitely within the weight limit for a forever stamp, so the postage should only be 15 cents short by my estimation.

I believe this is the difference between first class letter & first class parcel. There is an issue with the thickness of the item. I'm not sure of the exact rules, but as soon as you cross from a letter to a parcel the fee jumps from $0.55 to I think minimum is $4.00 for first class parcel less than 5 oz.

Per USPS:
* Letters that meet one or more of the nonmachinable characteristics in DMM 101.1.2 are subject to the $0.20 nonmachinable surcharge.

* Large envelope-sized pieces that are rigid, nonrectangular, or not uniformly thick pay parcel prices.

https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm#_c038


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2021, 09:56:12 AM
Should I complain to seller about this scenario?

I bought a Wacky Mini off eBay, and the seller charged $3.95 for shipping.  Instead of going to the post office and shipping it with proper postage, the seller just put it in a plain envelope and stuck two $0.55 stamps on it.  So when it arrived, I had to pay $2.90 in postage due to get it because the envelope was bulging.  So I feel like I paid almost $7 to ship a $1 mini.  I definitely won't buy from that seller again.

Here, the seller obviously knows the rates, and is charging you the correct price for 1st class parcel and is then turning around and trying to beat you or USPS by playing "dumb." You paid the full postage & the seller tried to game the system. IMO the seller is totally responsible, but as someone else mentioned, how much of your effort do you want to put in to recouping your loss.

You could email ebay or threaten to (or just) leave negative feedback. Maybe if the seller sees you got stuck with the bill & potentially gets called out with negative feedback he may issue you a refund. Technically, he has the money to do so since he underpaid the USPS what was owed and you paid the full amount.

BTW, did you message the seller about the issue and ask him to make it right?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 28, 2021, 03:28:42 PM
BTW, did you message the seller about the issue and ask him to make it right?

Actually I didn't have to.  He saw this on the forum and sent me a refund.

I've never left negative feedback on eBay before and didn't intend to this time either - actually I had already left positive feedback for the seller.  I always contact the seller directly before opening a case with eBay out of common courtesy.  In this case, I was going to just forget the loss.  If I had contacted the seller, it again would have been out of courtesy to let him know that it happened so he could avoid paying too little postage to others.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 28, 2021, 03:35:53 PM
I think that if you refuse to pay, they will return to sender. If you want the package, they offer the receiver the option to square the account by paying the postage due.

This is the second time it's happened to me - different sellers.  The post office puts one of those little pink stickers on your door to let you know that you owe postage.  If you refuse, then it gets sent back to the seller.  If the seller refuses to pay the postage, then it just goes into the dead letter file.  I didn't really want to deal with that hassle.  The mail delivery has been inconsistent lately, so I wasn't sure if I'd even get it back even if the seller had paid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 28, 2021, 03:40:43 PM
This is off topic in this thread, but I'm having another issue with eBay now.  I won this auction 2-1/2 hours ago, and it's still not giving me an option to pay.  It's also not showing up in my summary page as needing to pay.  Has anyone had this happen to them before?


(https://i.postimg.cc/7C5RVP6f/Topps-Football.png) (https://postimg.cc/7C5RVP6f)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2021, 04:24:57 PM
This is the second time it's happened to me - different sellers.  The post office puts one of those little pink stickers on your door to let you know that you owe postage.  If you refuse, then it gets sent back to the seller.  If the seller refuses to pay the postage, then it just goes into the dead letter file.  I didn't really want to deal with that hassle.  The mail delivery has been inconsistent lately, so I wasn't sure if I'd even get it back even if the seller had paid.

Funny, the only time I have ever heard of Postage Due was in seeing the Postage Due stamps when I collected stamps as a kid. I haven't heard the term since. Did you have to pay the letter carrier or do you have to go into the post office and claim the package at the counter?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on February 28, 2021, 04:27:09 PM
This is off topic in this thread, but I'm having another issue with eBay now.  I won this auction 2-1/2 hours ago, and it's still not giving me an option to pay.  It's also not showing up in my summary page as needing to pay.  Has anyone had this happen to them before?


(https://i.postimg.cc/7C5RVP6f/Topps-Football.png) (https://postimg.cc/7C5RVP6f)

This has happened to me once before, years ago. It happened when the seller's account was suspended, and ebay gave me the option of paying or not. The screen looked a little different.

Are you able to message the seller? there may be an issue with the seller's account or the auction may have been flagged for some reason.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 28, 2021, 06:39:02 PM
Did you have to pay the letter carrier or do you have to go into the post office and claim the package at the counter?

The pink slip lets you reschedule delivery just like a package that requires a signature, but the letter carrier had it the next day, so I gave him the money.  Another option was to go to a local sorting facility to pick it up.  I've had to do that before on items that required signatures.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 28, 2021, 06:42:15 PM
Are you able to message the seller? there may be an issue with the seller's account or the auction may have been flagged for some reason.

I messaged the seller to let him know that I didn't  have a pay now button.  I got an email from eBay to pay about 4 hours later, the pay now button was there, and it showed up in my purchases.  I've had this happen a few times before, always on a bidding item, but usually the pay now button shows up after refreshing the page a few times.  I typically don't bid until the last few seconds, and I like to pay right away, so it was frustrating to have to wait 4 hours.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 01, 2021, 04:43:42 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-15th-Series-Complete-30-30-Higher-Grade/324189591048?hash=item4b7b349608:g:lyUAAOSwpnRe2uhc

here is another ebay listing.... get it while it's hot....  LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on April 01, 2021, 05:24:21 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-wacky-Packages-Series-2-checklist-blank-back-Rare/233949517388

And yet another.
White back Reissues are hard to find for sure. I have several and am always looking to buy more but this is so goofy it just makes me laugh.
This is listed as a white "back" when its really a white "front" and only because he peeled the sticker off. Man ....just too funny.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on April 01, 2021, 06:46:08 PM
How do you peal a sticker off the checklist?...I'm confused...
My guess is seller is trying to push the notion that the front (sticker side) being plain white is some sort of printing or production error and therefore valuable as an ‘error’ card, when in fact it’s just a peeled Reissue card.  You can see the die-cut for chrissake.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on April 11, 2021, 11:15:40 AM
Actually I didn't have to.  He saw this on the forum and sent me a refund.

I've never left negative feedback on eBay before and didn't intend to this time either - actually I had already left positive feedback for the seller.  I always contact the seller directly before opening a case with eBay out of common courtesy.  In this case, I was going to just forget the loss.  If I had contacted the seller, it again would have been out of courtesy to let him know that it happened so he could avoid paying too little postage to others.
That was very sporting of him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on April 29, 2021, 01:34:44 AM
PLEASE tell me that THIS is not the going rate for a PSA-10 1982 sticker now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur)

The PSA stuff already seems astronomical for 1-16 stuff, but if things go this direction, my old collection would be worth millions (if I still had it all).  Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on April 29, 2021, 02:55:56 AM
PLEASE tell me that THIS is not the going rate for a PSA-10 1982 sticker now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur)

The PSA stuff already seems astronomical for 1-16 stuff, but if things go this direction, my old collection would be worth millions (if I still had it all).  Crazy stuff.

I think you'd only pay that much for a PSA 10 1982 Playbug if you're an heir to the Hugh Hefner estate.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 29, 2021, 05:49:17 AM
PLEASE tell me that THIS is not the going rate for a PSA-10 1982 sticker now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur)

The PSA stuff already seems astronomical for 1-16 stuff, but if things go this direction, my old collection would be worth millions (if I still had it all).  Crazy stuff.
Asking prices have never been an indication of value, actual sale prices are.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 24, 2021, 09:01:43 AM
I really love the audacity of this seller.  Charging $1,450 for what he deems to be a gem mint 10/10, but it's not graded.  BTW, a near mint range for this card is only $25-40 in the latest guide.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353508131019

What takes the cake for me is his description:

1972 Terry Bradshaw #150 GEM MINT 10/10 CONDITION VERY RARE Topps Football Card. Condition is "Like New". Shipped with USPS First Class.
Note: Card does not come in hard plastic case, it is shipped in a soft protective sleeve.

If I were to buy something for $1,450, and you were going to charge me $9.00 for shipping, it better be shipped in something other than a soft protective sleeve using USPS First Class.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Lqw5jJWN/Bradshaw-72.png) (https://postimg.cc/Lqw5jJWN)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on May 24, 2021, 12:03:01 PM
I really love the audacity of this seller.  Charging $1,450 for what he deems to be a gem mint 10/10, but it's not graded.  BTW, a near mint range for this card is only $25-40 in the latest guide.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353508131019

What takes the cake for me is his description:  Yes that is some serious audacity to say no hard sleeve will be a part of that sale.  I always take note of the sellers with no clue so thankyou for the heads up.

1972 Terry Bradshaw #150 GEM MINT 10/10 CONDITION VERY RARE Topps Football Card. Condition is "Like New". Shipped with USPS First Class.
Note: Card does not come in hard plastic case, it is shipped in a soft protective sleeve.

If I were to buy something for $1,450, and you were going to charge me $9.00 for shipping, it better be shipped in something other than a soft protective sleeve using USPS First Class.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Lqw5jJWN/Bradshaw-72.png) (https://postimg.cc/Lqw5jJWN)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on May 24, 2021, 12:11:48 PM

Hey, did you forget what you were going to say?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 24, 2021, 12:28:03 PM
Hey, did you forget what you were going to say?

“Yes that is some serious audacity to say no hard sleeve will be a part of that sale.  I always take note of the sellers with no clue so thankyou for the heads up.”
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on May 24, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Hey, did you forget what you were going to say?
  OK, that is a serious glitch.  I did write something and it was exactly what Paul Maul just put.  WHAT THE HELL?????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 24, 2021, 02:05:51 PM
  OK, that is a serious glitch.  I did write something and it was exactly what Paul Maul just put.  WHAT THE HELL?????

If you look carefully, you accidentally typed your response within the body of the quote.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 24, 2021, 03:28:24 PM
I think you'd only pay that much for a PSA 10 1982 Playbug if you're an heir to the Hugh Hefner estate.

I would think twice before offering 10 bucks
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 24, 2021, 03:30:11 PM
I would think twice before offering 10 bucks
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on May 24, 2021, 05:03:31 PM
But you can save 30% if you act now!   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 25, 2021, 11:07:45 AM
But you can save 30% if you act now!   ;D
and, on top of that, you get a "Free additional sealed transparent food-grade baggie adds additional protection to the casing". This will keep bugs out...ohhhh, too late.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 25, 2021, 12:47:47 PM
PLEASE tell me that THIS is not the going rate for a PSA-10 1982 sticker now...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224433230591?hash=item34414352ff:g:v-0AAOSwyWVgf1Ur)

The PSA stuff already seems astronomical for 1-16 stuff, but if things go this direction, my old collection would be worth millions (if I still had it all).  Crazy stuff.

That's what I don't understand about the whole infatuation with PSA grading.  You really can't tell the difference between a 9 and a 10, but the price difference seems astronomical - or at least in the eye of the seller.  It's not just on Wacky Packages but on every trading card, even new ones where the printing process is so good that every card should be a 9 or a 10.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2021, 03:52:47 PM
I personally don’t get it at all.  Ok, if I want a few of my favorite titles or a rarer card in the best condition possible just because it makes me happy to own them, fine.  But trying to assemble entire OS runs, or die-cut set or Ads set, spending thousands in the process, not for me, even if I had the cash to burn.  Certain collectibles retain their appeal across generations of people better than others, but I don’t think Wackys will be at the top of that list.  As the years go on and our generation slowly dies off, will there still be a market for these ultra-pricey slabbed cards, let alone an appreciation in value that can keep pace with inflation?  Maybe, maybe not, but doesn’t feel like the surest bet to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 25, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
That's what I don't understand about the whole infatuation with PSA grading.  You really can't tell the difference between a 9 and a 10, but the price difference seems astronomical - or at least in the eye of the seller.  It's not just on Wacky Packages but on every trading card, even new ones where the printing process is so good that every card should be a 9 or a 10.

It is a money making scheme for PSA in my opinion....  I will never buy a slabbed wacky...  my 1967 diecut set would grade between 8 and 10 on every card.  I will never get them slabbed. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2021, 04:48:40 PM
I personally don’t get it at all.  Ok, if I want a few of my favorite titles or a rarer card in the best condition possible just because it makes me happy to own them, fine.  But trying to assemble entire OS runs, or die-cut set or Ads set, spending thousands in the process, not for me, even if I had the cash to burn.  Certain collectibles retain their appeal across generations of people better than others, but I don’t think Wackys will be at the top of that list.  As the years go on and our generation slowly dies off, will there still be a market for these ultra-pricey slabbed cards, let alone an appreciation in value that can keep pace with inflation?  Maybe, maybe not, but doesn’t feel like the surest bet to me.
I should probably stifle myself (to quote Archie Bunker) on this subject because I’m sure I’ve weighed in on the general subject before and am not really saying anything new.  And I don’t want to offend anyone who is into slabbed Wackys, as the pursuit of 3rd party graded collectibles is pretty much part of most collectibles markets by now.  Maybe all those collectors know something I don’t.  I have a friend who obsesses over Incredible Hulk #181, the first full appearance of Wolverine from the X-Men, his favorite character.  But he won’t even look at anything lower than maybe an 8.0.  Way to go Frank, maybe it’ll hit $100,000 soon, if it hasn’t already. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2021, 04:55:48 PM
I should probably stifle myself (to quote Archie Bunker) on this subject because I’m sure I’ve weighed in on the general subject before and am not really saying anything new.  And I don’t want to offend anyone who is into slabbed Wackys, as the pursuit of 3rd party graded collectibles is pretty much part of most collectibles markets by now.  Maybe all those collectors know something I don’t.  I have a friend who obsesses over Incredible Hulk #181, the first full appearance of Wolverine from the X-Men, his favorite character.  But he won’t even look at anything lower than maybe an 8.0.  Way to go Frank, maybe it’ll hit $100,000 soon, if it hasn’t already.

Hulk 181 is a perfect example. Buying that book uncertified is asking to get a restored, color touched copy. If that doesn’t bother you, fire away. You don’t need to buy a high grade CGC copy if that isn’t important to you. You can buy one in lesser condition and still have the resto check.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2021, 06:26:15 PM
Interesting, didn’t realize how prevalent restorations are in comics, though I would venture to guess it occurs 99% with the big-ticket books.  To expend the effort on lower-demand titles and issues would be akin to counterfeiting $1 bills.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on May 25, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
Interesting, didn’t realize how prevalent restorations are in comics, though I would venture to guess it occurs 99% with the big-ticket books.  To expend the effort on lower-demand titles and issues would be akin to counterfeiting $1 bills.
Or $2 bills.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2021, 06:41:41 PM
Interesting, didn’t realize how prevalent restorations are in comics, though I would venture to guess it occurs 99% with the big-ticket books.  To expend the effort on lower-demand titles and issues would be akin to counterfeiting $1 bills.

Absolutely, 90% of the comics I own are ungraded, and given their value and how I obtained them I’m pretty sure they are not altered. I would only be concerned with either ultra high grade comics that are priced high or keys.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 24, 2021, 08:15:42 AM
Now that I'm trying to finish off some of my sport card sets from my childhood, I can't believe how some sellers think they have a goldmine of a card because it's old and the player is a star - or famous.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353545615296

Here's the latest book value for this card: $12.50-$25 in NM condition, which this card is not.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hXrCrQpd/Topps-Football-1971.png) (https://postimg.cc/hXrCrQpd)

I'm not a stickler for condition, so I'd offer the seller $10 for it, but he also wants almost that much for shipping!  He'll probably put it in a regular envelope with a 55-cent stamp on it, so I could only reasonably offer him about 80 cents to feel like I broke even on it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 24, 2021, 11:40:10 AM
This one just sold for $6.50 and looks nicer…


(https://i.postimg.cc/VLdmpGCS/8-D6-AD4-AC-C548-43-A3-AF93-47243-DD4843-C.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 24, 2021, 11:41:20 AM
Meanwhile a PSA 9 just sold for over $18,000.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: OutofStep on June 25, 2021, 04:15:25 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-1-1-1979-Topps-T-C-G-Chewing-Gum-Sticker-Wacky-Packages-Commie-Cleanser-/333955832543?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

Grab it before it’s gone!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 25, 2021, 04:34:40 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-1-1-1979-Topps-T-C-G-Chewing-Gum-Sticker-Wacky-Packages-Commie-Cleanser-/333955832543?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

Grab it before it’s gone!

Absolutely friggin' unbelievable - that one...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on June 26, 2021, 07:41:28 AM
get it while it's hot!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

if you miss picking it up for $1500.00 bucks,  I can sell you the same set for the rock bottom price of $750.00!  LOL!!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on June 26, 2021, 07:42:36 AM
Absolutely friggin' unbelievable - that one...

it's the scratches that make it soo valuable!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 04, 2021, 01:47:10 PM
Here is the original 1978 art for the "1978" sticker that was issued in 1973:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284397114994?hash=item4237639672:g:jX8AAOSwni5hCvW5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 04, 2021, 02:09:43 PM
Here is the original 1978 art for the "1978" sticker that was issued in 1973:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284397114994?hash=item4237639672:g:jX8AAOSwni5hCvW5

You know what the real b**ch of it is? It's paint by number.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 04, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
     I know this is not Wacky related, but I just can't seem to get this out of my head.  I'm assuming one could easily purchase cases of these for that price.  I myself probably have 10 sets of these just put away somewhere.         https://www.ebay.com/itm/313625899703?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D7a136218299c4aaaba612a3bdebd7012%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D174862771597%26itm%3D313625899703%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A261fe57c-f577-11eb-bc8c-e680dd381f6a%7Cparentrq%3A13618d0f17b0a6e784f0afa1ffdcc75a%7Ciid%3A1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 04, 2021, 04:17:04 PM
The most a PSA 9 from this set ever sold for is $34.99….and most of them sold for under $10.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 04, 2021, 05:00:57 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Vile-Soap-2nd-Series-Tan-Back-PSA-9OC-/294314111087?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Sorry for the long link, can’t figure out how to do the eBay link thing on phone.

Very tempting though, I must say.

Whoever can find the uncommon part of this card gets a high five.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DaffyBP on August 04, 2021, 09:23:03 PM
It looks like a die cut sticker, but on cardboard.   ?????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 05, 2021, 08:06:53 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-Vile-Soap-2nd-Series-Tan-Back-PSA-9OC-/294314111087?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Sorry for the long link, can’t figure out how to do the eBay link thing on phone.

Very tempting though, I must say.

Whoever can find the uncommon part of this card gets a high five.

Looks like it’s slightly more than half of a Vile/Fishbone Hostess double that was torn in two.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 05, 2021, 10:03:05 AM
Looks like it’s slightly more than half of a Vile/Fishbone Hostess double that was torn in two.
I believe Patrick is correct, as the sticker's copyright has no asterisk.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 05, 2021, 10:10:00 AM
The other half is up also…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294313479551?hash=item4486734d7f:g:OjIAAOSwuaNg7c7X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 05, 2021, 10:45:27 AM
The other half is up also…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294313479551?hash=item4486734d7f:g:OjIAAOSwuaNg7c7X

PSA it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 05, 2021, 10:56:27 AM
PSA it!
     Marc, It looks tan to me, but that is not the only part of the description that is WRONG. lol.

     Matt
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 05, 2021, 11:04:04 AM
     Marc, It looks tan to me, but that is not the only part of the description that is WRONG. lol.

     Matt
"Gently used condition"  LOL

Guess it was torn carefully.... ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Adrian on August 06, 2021, 02:58:36 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/TpLYn7yy/59-B21476-4-AFA-4-E68-93-CD-FAAE7-A3962-CF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpLYn7yy)

What am I missing?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184696955415
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on August 06, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
I  see another seller has 3 of the same boxes (admittedly in worse shape) for $165…..not sure why this seller is asking SO much….
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 06, 2021, 04:26:00 PM
I  see another seller has 3 of the same boxes (admittedly in worse shape) for $165…..not sure why this seller is asking SO much….

Well, they have "Make Offer" on it, so perhaps they are just looking for offers?  Sometimes a listing like that can lead to an off-ebay deal at a considerably lower price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Adrian on August 06, 2021, 04:47:25 PM
Well, they have "Make Offer" on it, so perhaps they are just looking for offers?  Sometimes a listing like that can lead to an off-ebay deal at a considerably lower price.

Oh I made him two fair offers based on it being 60 count. He declined. I asked why so much. He ignored. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 07, 2021, 02:31:37 PM
... He declined. ... He ignored.
He shmuck.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on August 07, 2021, 02:34:22 PM
He shmuck.

He he
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Adrian on August 08, 2021, 06:55:38 PM
He shmuck.

Hahah. I am fine if he felt my price was unfair. I based it on other sales. At this point I’m still curious why he thinks it’s worth 10 times what it should be. Or it just might be one of those people who think 1991 - being over 30 years old and unopened wax makes it rare  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 20, 2021, 05:56:16 AM
     Is it just me or is this just a bit pricey?           https://www.ebay.com/itm/124861580570?hash=item1d1254851a:g:LWAAAOSwIUVhHuXJ

Given that it's a graded pack and who knows what sort of Best Offer he might accept, it seems not unreasonable to me...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 20, 2021, 06:34:10 AM
I do think it is not an outrageous ask. As Marc said, the parameters are within tolerance.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 20, 2021, 02:43:16 PM
    Wow, ok I am going with the experts on this one; I have three Gai graded packs to put on Ebay.  Thanks guys.

     Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 25, 2021, 12:41:54 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363513301115?hash=item54a314c87b:g:lyMAAOSwKHVhIBou

What am I missing here?????
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 25, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363513301115?hash=item54a314c87b:g:lyMAAOSwKHVhIBou

What am I missing here?????

Check out this thread for discussion: http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=6299.0

The general consensus is that they are very sharp cards, and may get PSA grades high enough to make them worth taking a chance on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 26, 2021, 10:53:47 AM
Check out this thread for discussion: http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=6299.0

The general consensus is that they are very sharp cards, and may get PSA grades high enough to make them worth taking a chance on.

Yeah I guess, but the scan or pic of the backs looks like it has been whitewashed.  It is super white and there is a lot of glare.  I think the winner of this auction will be disappointed with the backs of these.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 26, 2021, 11:24:24 AM
     Every sticker this seller has is cropped;  I asked for a non cropped picture of Kook I am betting on a ignore on this one. Why do people waste others time?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/334127223399?hash=item4dcb88d267:g:ym0AAOSws8JhJ8s3
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 27, 2021, 11:47:06 PM
WTF?:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

"Man, I'm in carbon freeze for a while, Chewie, and everyone starts getting delusions of grandure!"
(spelling and wording improvized)

Is this REALLY the kind of prices regular sets are fetching now?  Did the pandemic make everyone go nuts?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 27, 2021, 11:50:51 PM
WTF?:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122260880703?hash=item1c7750fd3f:g:zAQAAOSwx2dYHU~b

"Man, I'm in carbon freeze for a while, Chewie, and everyone starts getting delusions of grandure!"
(spelling and wording improvized)

Is this REALLY the kind of prices regular sets are fetching now?  Did the pandemic make everyone go nuts?

The answer to your first question is a definite no.  As to the second question, I'm not sure  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 28, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
Someone talk me down from the ledge PLEASE! I am a sucker for unopened material. Every fiber of my being is screaming JUMP on this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144175898888?hash=item21918da108:g:V9MAAOSwuc9hKsD2

About to jump Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 28, 2021, 07:40:09 PM
Someone talk me down from the ledge PLEASE! I am a sucker for unopened material. Every fiber of my being is screaming JUMP on this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144175898888?hash=item21918da108:g:V9MAAOSwuc9hKsD2

About to jump Jim

Outside of rubber bands, that's gotta be about the worst storage technique I've ever seen...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 28, 2021, 09:34:17 PM
Someone talk me down from the ledge PLEASE! I am a sucker for unopened material. Every fiber of my being is screaming JUMP on this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144175898888?hash=item21918da108:g:V9MAAOSwuc9hKsD2

About to jump Jim

I don’t think that is legitimate. I’ve never seen a cello fun pack without a puzzle piece showing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 28, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
I don’t think that is legitimate. I’ve never seen a cello fun pack without a puzzle piece showing.

I think all of mine have puzzle pieces showing, will check when I get home.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on September 02, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Good Ol' Ronnie Rocker never fails to impress with his "quality" wackys!!  I wouldn't stick this on the spokes of my Huffy as a 10 year old!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363344054148?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233907%26meid%3D223a8f4086df4c78a3693ff55c465d46%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D265137870942%26itm%3D363344054148%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWithPLXWeb%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A363344054148223a8f4086df4c78a3693ff55c465d46%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACAGreXVJQSXVvxyAvqQYAj%252F1ieQCGgwOA4onZ%252FCMEyzPFMjcAQ3heRvfa8wqDqWP4ne2a6UM1Wi8hE%252BoQuMENi6%252FbcuBydhDbEh%252BuKs1EtExX2JAp0ug50y1FQ0Bip%252BSGinRDKhJ5l4btC938jjOG76YZCOFTFqhf58TG8CczlwNkGPS0xcHNS2E1ZPxm4375WR7w49cq0GGFQNI9CB0BxWib%252F%252Blbq0bcg%252BbCAoMM6aL9ynH%252FdvhWBsNGDFPyYr%252FY7OdeyORMqKRCupJWUT6DD1J%252BHARuC9faUTXIyjDmqvbCqgZxEpG%252Br8PApw33vfbgwwvZ10keZWSEggVjfnWPSSITcnTyBuXEzsrVv82u17fC0TGF%252BXUro74EfY1sXlPsdxxRLqPCIxmrrIr2SrYIZ%252FCB%252B%252BqLdJzAm46s2Oh%252BKm95D3OSsm8SE1mmeH6OnBmTLeB9SCQV82cDa9fE78%252Bjf62pEU90Ua77lQMbbq7hvlDsv1RK0Jh9YYWNS7FKsr%252FE57Bv5PFOUWVnctKQZMPq27rKMiCWjsf7l74Bhf343P6wkV3gcRkJvmGr56Y85qrfa5FS1ou6vaB4Er0IlBMukyF54EGbmhZ8JLMOhjj%252F1KoVnWKPZK0NtpTuL2ee9AqlajalcWeIoSQo7TzzGaD1zto65k%252B0YPVrLEKwtSep%252BEhb%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 02, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
I think all of mine have puzzle pieces showing, will check when I get home.

Verified - all of mine have a puzzle piece showing, some with the checklist facing out, some with the puzzle piece facing out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 02, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
Not trying to open a can of worms, but have other collectors had problems with RonnieRocker? I have considered bidding on one or two of his items…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 02, 2021, 02:10:30 PM
Good Ol' Ronnie Rocker never fails to impress with his "quality" wackys!!  I wouldn't stick this on the spokes of my Huffy as a 10 year old!



That one looks like it came out of the spokes of a Huffy.


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 03, 2021, 09:16:15 AM
Not trying to open a can of worms, but have other collectors had problems with RonnieRocker? I have considered bidding on one or two of his items…
Not sure if this is the same Ronnie Rocker who used to post here on this forum and Greg's forum or not.  That being said, I think most of the items he has listed are over-priced.  He does have a very nicely centered Choke Wagon for sale but I don't think it is worth $175.  But it does look like he has "Best Offer" option on most everything so maybe you can get a good deal?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on September 03, 2021, 09:54:49 AM
Not trying to open a can of worms, but have other collectors had problems with RonnieRocker? I have considered bidding on one or two of his items…
I remember that name in connection with a controversial character back in the days of Greg’s old forum, but can’t remember if he was a forum member, eBay seller or both.  Is he the same guy who always claimed to be terminally ill, at death’s door, etc?  Had long hair, was a metal head, looked a little like Nigel from Spinal Tap?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 03, 2021, 10:03:10 AM

Not sure if this is the same Ronnie Rocker who used to post here on this forum and Greg's forum or not.

I suspect this IS the one & only Ronnie Rocker.  His profile says "Member since: Mar-06-00"

I remember that name in connection with a controversial character back in the days of Greg’s old forum, but can’t remember if he was a forum member, eBay seller or both.  Is he the same guy who always claimed to be terminally ill, at death’s door, etc?  Had long hair, was a metal head, looked a little like Nigel from Spinal Tap?

I believe his name was Ron - but a different person.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 03, 2021, 10:08:59 AM
I judge each auction on its own merit (hopefully based on decent photos), but would prefer to do business with people who have earned a good reputation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on September 03, 2021, 11:37:39 AM
I remember that name in connection with a controversial character back in the days of Greg’s old forum, but can’t remember if he was a forum member, eBay seller or both.  Is he the same guy who always claimed to be terminally ill, at death’s door, etc?  Had long hair, was a metal head, looked a little like Nigel from Spinal Tap?

No, that was RonZombie. Ronnie Rocker came along about ten years earlier.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on September 03, 2021, 11:40:41 AM
I judge each auction on its own merit (hopefully based on decent photos), but would prefer to do business with people who have earned a good reputation.

About 20 years ago, Ronnie was taking a steady beating on the Forum for selling overpriced items. Some of his current listings seem more in line than others. I would make full use of the Zoom In feature.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on September 03, 2021, 12:04:37 PM
No, that was RonZombie. Ronnie Rocker came along about ten years earlier.
Ah yes, now I remember, thanks for that.  RonZombie was the one posting on the forum.  Ronnie Rocker was mentioned a lot, but I don’t remember any forum participation from him.  Must have been mostly eBay ludicrosity similar to the $10 Truant retrieved from a washing machine.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 03, 2021, 05:32:13 PM
No, that was RonZombie. Ronnie Rocker came along about ten years earlier.

I had conflated those two as well, thanks for deconflating them!

And thanks to MoldRush for the detailed description of RonZombie. The Nigel/Spinal Tap reference really brought it home!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 03, 2021, 05:45:26 PM
Ron Z is basically a good guy. Unfortunately he made a few mistakes and had a hard time putting them behind him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on September 03, 2021, 08:26:47 PM
I had conflated those two as well, thanks for deconflating them!

And thanks to MoldRush for the detailed description of RonZombie. The Nigel/Spinal Tap reference really brought it home!
I figured that reference might click.  Not a dead ringer for Christopher Guest, just a similar overall look to Nigel in character.  He did look a bit pale and sickly, so his story seemed credible early on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on September 03, 2021, 08:29:34 PM
Ron Z is basically a good guy. Unfortunately he made a few mistakes and had a hard time putting them behind him.
Yeah I remember him being harmless for the most part, once the melodrama passed.  Then later he passed the baton to Wackim (Joe?), who took over as the main forum weirdo.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on September 03, 2021, 08:53:18 PM
Yeah I remember him being harmless for the most part, once the melodrama passed.  Then later he passed the baton to Wackim (Joe?), who took over as the main forum weirdo.

I saw Ron at a show once. He seemed to get along with everyone just fine. But I admit I laughed aloud seeing Wackim referenced in the "Are These People Nuts?" thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on September 03, 2021, 08:55:29 PM
I saw Ron at a show once. He seemed to get along with everyone just fine. But I admit I laughed aloud seeing Wackim referenced in the "Are These People Nuts?" thread.

"Wackim"...  now there's a flash from the past!!   :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on September 05, 2021, 07:52:53 PM
"Wackim"...  now there's a flash from the past!!   :o

Why does that sound familiar?  Anyone want to shed light on that story?
I do remember, "foobar", very early in the eBay golden-age.  Is that guy still around?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on September 15, 2021, 04:52:30 PM
   PSA 9 (oc)   what? what planet am I on?.....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/294398787222?hash=item448b88fe96:g:qIIAAOSwfAFg7c9k
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 15, 2021, 05:03:21 PM
   PSA 9 (oc)   what? what planet am I on?.....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/294398787222?hash=item448b88fe96:g:qIIAAOSwfAFg7c9k
National Spittoon posted that one on here last month. Good times.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on September 15, 2021, 10:09:58 PM
Good luck identifying the center of that POS. As far as being graded, I am not sure people even know what PSA is when they list.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 16, 2021, 04:44:48 AM
I think a lot of it is people using another listing as a template.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 16, 2021, 05:53:55 AM
I think a lot of it is people using another listing as a template.

I agree, and sometimes ebay makes it difficult to change details.  But this one has PSA 7 in the details, and PSA 9 in the title, so the seller was even sloppy there!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 16, 2021, 04:19:49 PM
   PSA 9 (oc)   what? what planet am I on?.....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/294398787222?hash=item448b88fe96:g:qIIAAOSwfAFg7c9k
Oh crap this isn't really PSA 9 card?   8)  Best $2 I ever spent I have some good karma going for me lately,  I needed this for a cut doubles collection.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 16, 2021, 04:27:58 PM
There is a uk gloom with a pin hole out there with 4 junker regular wackys for $10 shipped if anyone is interested.  Ping me and i will send link.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on September 17, 2021, 02:27:22 AM
   PSA 9 (oc)   what? what planet am I on?.....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/294398787222?hash=item448b88fe96:g:qIIAAOSwfAFg7c9k

This listing is hilarious.  There were definitely people out there on eBay & the wrapper who graded stuff like this all the time.  I've never been a purist when it comes to condition, and I can enjoy an EX+ just as well as a NM/MT.  But it's amazing how many times I'd get "NM" stickers that were literally borderless and/or creased down the middle, or with writing on the back, etc.  One guy wanted to sell me a book full of Wackys that had all been stuck to notebook paper for $300, and was insulted that I'd questing his grading of them when I arrived to see it. Ug.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on September 17, 2021, 03:09:10 AM
I don't go on eBay much anymore, and I haven't actually bought anything on there for many years.  But I check now and then... and I just can't believe someone would pay this much for a PSA9 Hostess Wacky.  I know they're really rare, and PSA9 is awesome.  But $14K is a freaking car, or at least one-of-a-kind piece of original art or something...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273786872318?hash=item3fbef821fe:g:9lAAAOSwai5eErHT

Is there some kind of 'limit' to what people will pay for a sticker of any rarity, just based on pure logic?  Or are there just so many people with disposable bitcoin fortunes or real estate equity that can throw that kind of cash around for this stuff?  I mean, $200 for one of these H-pairs back in the day was almost ludicrous.  I still have a hard time justifying that for a 1977 sticker or something.  Are these people nuts (like this thread implies), or have I gone nuts thinking this is nuts?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 17, 2021, 09:56:40 AM
Are these people nuts (like this thread implies), or have I gone nuts thinking this is nuts?
This auction is for a full set of 19 graded pairs. I'd still say $14K is high, though, eh?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 17, 2021, 10:49:16 AM
Is there some kind of 'limit' to what people will pay for a sticker of any rarity, just based on pure logic?  Or are there just so many people with disposable bitcoin fortunes or real estate equity that can throw that kind of cash around for this stuff?  Are these people nuts (like this thread implies), or have I gone nuts thinking this is nuts?

It extends to sports cards too!  This one should be in the $40-80 range for an ungraded near mint card.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363542414378

Either the seller is nuts to think someone would pay the $10K BIN for this, or he thinks there is someone out there nuts enough to pay it and not smart enough to find another one on eBay that is graded and much cheaper.  The blurry photo in the scratched up holder and the lack of any description are just bonuses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on September 17, 2021, 12:34:48 PM
     As a past sports memorabilia shop owner, this is someone who found this in a drawer and because of the somewhat "famous" name condition matters very little. They should at least use lighting to increase visibility and a new top loader with a plastic sleeve. We all see items on eBay that are over the top over priced and sometimes they do sell.  But yes this card is $50 on a good day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 23, 2021, 03:45:07 PM
   PSA 9 (oc)   what? what planet am I on?.....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/294398787222?hash=item448b88fe96:g:qIIAAOSwfAFg7c9k
(https://i.postimg.cc/7JMBb29q/20210923-184248.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JMBb29q)
 I know you guys were all really concerned, this psa9 card arrived safely!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on September 23, 2021, 09:01:08 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/7JMBb29q/20210923-184248.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JMBb29q)
 I know you guys were all really concerned, this psa9 card arrived safely!

  Nice Ernie, maybe take a chance and have PSA regrade it for a possible 10.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 25, 2021, 01:11:02 PM
Anyone feel like paying $1,289.99 for a single Band-aches? There is one on e-bay, if you do….
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on September 25, 2021, 01:53:40 PM
     John. maybe if it were tan back and graded PSA 10.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 25, 2021, 02:11:42 PM
     John. maybe if it were tan back and graded PSA 10.

It is a tan, but its top/bottom centering is off.  You can see a tiny bit of the border on the card above it and the copyright is cut in half on the bottom.

The same seller has two more Tandaches with bigger issues with BIN prices of $389.99 and $899.99 and a black ludlow for $699.99.

Out of curiosity, what is the order in rarity of tan, black ludlow, red ludlow?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on September 25, 2021, 02:24:19 PM
It is a tan, but its top/bottom centering is off.  You can see a tiny bit of the border on the card above it and the copyright is cut in half on the bottom.

The same seller has two more Tandaches with bigger issues with BIN prices of $389.99 and $899.99 and a black ludlow for $699.99.

Out of curiosity, what is the order in rarity of tan, black ludlow, red ludlow?

I believe it is just as you have it:  tan, black ludlow, red ludlow (the scarcest)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 09, 2021, 10:50:43 AM
Is this a sure sign than an ebaydiot is lurking?

(https://i.postimg.cc/WDR612wj/ebaydiot1.png) (https://postimg.cc/WDR612wj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jWz6WGMf/ebaydiot.png) (https://postimg.cc/jWz6WGMf)

The second image shows that one user bidding 24 times on this item, increasing each one by $1, and also bidding more than 10 times on 12 of his/her 30 items over a 30-day period, with a high of 46!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on November 09, 2021, 10:55:22 AM
Is this a sure sign than an ebaydiot is lurking?

(https://i.postimg.cc/WDR612wj/ebaydiot1.png) (https://postimg.cc/WDR612wj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jWz6WGMf/ebaydiot.png) (https://postimg.cc/jWz6WGMf)

Looks like he's gambling that the market will come up with a reasonable price.  Will be interesting to see where it ends up.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 04, 2021, 09:42:38 AM
Yikes, I will be watching to see if anyone actually buys this.  Some sellers simply do ZERO research don't they?   https://www.ebay.com/itm/393761560998?hash=item5bae0499a6:g:qGUAAOSwDuFhojpr
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 04, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Even if the price wasn't outrageous, $10.04 to ship one wax pack certainly is.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on December 18, 2021, 09:34:09 AM
This is wacky, but not Wacky Packages related.

There is a seller on eBay selling an expired Spiderman No Way Home opening night movie ticket that he thinks will be worth something.

LMFAO! By the way...I saw the movie. It's fantastic!!!!!!!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/0bRF6PdL/Screen-Shot-2021-12-18-at-11-31-22-AM.png) (https://postimg.cc/0bRF6PdL)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4m6MVqWn/Screen-Shot-2021-12-18-at-11-31-46-AM.png) (https://postimg.cc/4m6MVqWn)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 21, 2021, 09:08:46 PM
Was searching an unreasonable amount for an item for some seller. I decided to see what he was asking for other stuff. Holey Sh-nikes!



https://www.ebay.com/itm/313761685729?hash=item490da760e1:g:NKQAAOSwS2lhauPw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on December 27, 2021, 04:25:45 AM
     A few forum members know that I actually have had tan backs in my collection that I overlooked as series 1, but they turned out to be Wonder Bread.(Thanks Joe). Honesty is so important to me and so I came across this mislabeled Wonder Bread issue and "tried" to inform the seller that he might want to re-list with accurate information regarding the actual series. We went back and forth about 5 times. Seller seemed to be content with leaving it for the buyer to get a false tan back rather than being honest. I simply can't stand people like him, it's just wrong. Buyer beware.       https://www.ebay.com/itm/203764318635?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9eef50c4b33c49bc9d9f81a7ea358711&bu=43209198147&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20211227050247&segname=11051&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

     Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 27, 2021, 07:47:49 AM
Honesty is so important to me and so I came across this mislabeled Wonder Bread issue and "tried" to inform the seller that he might want to re-list with accurate information regarding the actual series. We went back and forth about 5 times. Seller seemed to be content with leaving it for the buyer to get a false tan back rather than being honest. I simply can't stand people like him, it's just wrong. Buyer beware.

I've done the same with other sellers, and it was always to no avail, so I've given up trying.  I collect beach volleyball memorabilia and have tried to help sellers with auctions by identifying autographs, pointing out that the autograph was a gold medal winner, etc.  I've never had one listen, so I've stopped wasting my typing.

The seller of the 1st series tan, I remember best discussing, pointed me to the paragraph on wackypackages.com about the copyright being different.  However, he was selling a Lavirus that is distinguishable by the die cut and in a paragraph farther down.  I asked him to read the entire page.  I even tried to imply logic as to why he would think a 1st series white or ludlow back and a 1st series tan back would have different die cuts when they were made from the same uncut sheet die but just with different sticker paper for a backing.  It didn't do any good.  He said he stood by his items and had never had a complaint.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 27, 2021, 11:41:03 AM
     A few forum members know that I actually have had tan backs in my collection that I overlooked as series 1, but they turned out to be Wonder Bread.(Thanks Joe). Honesty is so important to me and so I came across this mislabeled Wonder Bread issue and "tried" to inform the seller that he might want to re-list with accurate information regarding the actual series. We went back and forth about 5 times. Seller seemed to be content with leaving it for the buyer to get a false tan back rather than being honest. I simply can't stand people like him, it's just wrong. Buyer beware.       https://www.ebay.com/itm/203764318635?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=9eef50c4b33c49bc9d9f81a7ea358711&bu=43209198147&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20211227050247&segname=11051&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

     Matt.
Your Welcome my friend
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 30, 2021, 08:57:08 AM
I think this kind of fits the thread title, but in a good way...is it me or is this being offered for a mighty good price? Wish I had a couple grand just sitting around, I'd snatch it up...

eBay auction: #363673439141
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 30, 2021, 11:40:52 AM
I think this kind of fits the thread title, but in a good way...is it me or is this being offered for a mighty good price? Wish I had a couple grand just sitting around, I'd snatch it up...

eBay auction: #363673439141


I agree that price is a steal.  The 16th series plus puzzle is worth at least 75% of the total price. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on December 30, 2021, 11:57:11 AM
Agreed that is a great price...if you have $2, 195. I have seen 16th series by itself listed for that amount. He seems to be pretty precise with his grading, does not necessarily mean he is accurate. I have always disliked the guy with money who instantly buys a better collection than I have, and I have been collecting for years...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 31, 2021, 07:22:35 AM


I agree that price is a steal.  The 16th series plus puzzle is worth at least 75% of the total price.
Series 16 in ex isnt worth $1500
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 31, 2021, 07:45:11 AM
Series 16 in ex isnt worth $1500
I agree, top end in ex/5 i wouldn't pay more than 25-30 for the more desirable titles, and less for the more commons and the non favorites.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 31, 2021, 05:19:09 PM
Series 16 in ex isnt worth $1500

I didn't see any solid pics of the series 16's so maybe not as much as I thought.  But if they are close, they can go for about $50 or so a pop.  Plus the full puzzle has been selling for 400 buck give or take.  I would have definitely taken a chance if I would have seen it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 01, 2022, 10:57:32 AM
OK, back to the truly nuts...or at least clueless: eBay auction: #154775387179
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 01, 2022, 11:00:04 AM
OK, back to the truly nuts...or at least clueless: eBay auction: #154775387179

The last of the seller's pics, "Hopeless," just about sums it up for that listing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 01, 2022, 11:42:02 AM
BigT - PLEASE spot me the $1250

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 01, 2022, 11:51:12 AM
BigT - PLEASE spot me the $1250

Richard
#StayWacky

Start a GoFundMe page.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on January 01, 2022, 02:49:01 PM
OK, back to the truly nuts...or at least clueless: eBay auction: #154775387179

Maybe they meant $12.50 and screwed up the decimal point.   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 01, 2022, 03:17:00 PM
Maybe they meant $12.50 and screwed up the decimal point.   ;D
LOL, still would be overpriced.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 01, 2022, 03:20:12 PM
BigT - PLEASE spot me the $1250

Richard
#StayWacky
I'll do better than that: I'll sell ya all them, in better condition, for only half that amount.  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 03, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
How did this get a PSA 10?  It has this strange chalky looking shadow border around the regular die-cut and look at the asking price.  I looked at mine in my collection, and it has no such "shadow border" and looks perfect in comparison.  I am an "anti-slabber" though and will never send it to the grading gulag!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303333322668?hash=item46a0132fac:g:PyQAAOSwUIRfVZNc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
How did this get a PSA 10?  It has this strange chalky looking shadow border around the regular die-cut and look at the asking price.  I looked at mine in my collection, and it has no such "shadow border" and looks perfect in comparison.  I am an "anti-slabber" though and will never send it to the grading gulag!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303333322668?hash=item46a0132fac:g:PyQAAOSwUIRfVZNc

If you’re talking about the blue die cut line, most die cuts have it. Sometimes it looks more noticeable than others.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on March 07, 2022, 12:56:57 PM
another gem on Ebay right now....  in EXCELLENT condition .....  for me to poop on!  Starting at the rock bottom price of $72.50!  I would not even list such an eyesore....  I would try to punch, lick and stick it maybe, otherwise toss it....  I would not pay anything for it...  mine is a true NRMT condition card.  If I were to list it I would start it at $30 and let it ride

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194889119780?hash=item2d604bf824:g:t2sAAOSw~1tiIYf0


 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 07, 2022, 01:24:20 PM
But all those lovely marks on the back give it "character".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on March 07, 2022, 04:28:49 PM
But all those lovely marks on the back give it "character".

it looks like a wacky pack I stuck between the spokes of my Huffy to get that sound as I roared down the cul-de-sac.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on March 08, 2022, 08:22:17 AM
another gem on Ebay right now....  in EXCELLENT condition .....  for me to poop on!  Starting at the rock bottom price of $72.50!  I would not even list such an eyesore....  I would try to punch, lick and stick it maybe, otherwise toss it....  I would not pay anything for it...  mine is a true NRMT condition card.  If I were to list it I would start it at $30 and let it ride

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194889119780?hash=item2d604bf824:g:t2sAAOSw~1tiIYf0


 
     It would seem that sellers on feeBay go by what the highest price sold was to start with and conveniently forgetting to realize that it may be a high grade example. Not enough research with the newer crowd.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 10, 2022, 01:31:25 PM
This was Nuts form the sellers part.  Someone got a massive deal on this one.  They got the entire series 1-16 run including puzzles for less than the 16th set and puzzle would cost - $2,195.  Wow, I wish I would have seen this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363673439141?hash=item54aca04ba5%3Ag%3AjW0AAOSwMYZhzdTc&nma=true&si=%252B4TFsBWQQ%252F6PkfT3waJBsEC4GCA%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 10, 2022, 01:44:19 PM
This was Nuts form the sellers part.  Someone got a massive deal on this one.  They got the entire series 1-16 run including puzzles for less than the 16th set and puzzle would cost - $2,195.  Wow, I wish I would have seen this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363673439141?hash=item54aca04ba5%3Ag%3AjW0AAOSwMYZhzdTc&nma=true&si=%252B4TFsBWQQ%252F6PkfT3waJBsEC4GCA%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Geez, that was a steal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 10, 2022, 03:57:32 PM
ANS11 for 5 grand?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325088021583?hash=item4bb0c18c4f:g:MLcAAOSwD2xiJWWe
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on March 10, 2022, 09:23:55 PM
ANS11 for 5 grand?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325088021583?hash=item4bb0c18c4f:g:MLcAAOSwD2xiJWWe
looking at the pictures I am wondering if it includes the cloth series the black ludlow and the red ludlow.  I say this as he has the same set in different pictures.  He just might have forgotten to tell us about his set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on March 11, 2022, 04:54:45 AM
There is no way ANYTHING from ANS 11 is worth $5k….to me anyway…..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on March 11, 2022, 05:57:59 AM
ANS11 for 5 grand?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325088021583?hash=item4bb0c18c4f:g:MLcAAOSwD2xiJWWe

He's a nice guy and a knowledgeable seller.  May have just been a typo, maybe a decimal point.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 11, 2022, 06:45:04 AM
He's a nice guy and a knowledgeable seller.  May have just been a typo, maybe a decimal point.

I can attest to how easy it is to mess up an ebay listing with an honest mistake and end up as an example in this thread.   :-[
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 11, 2022, 03:33:08 PM
Agreed, looks like something went haywire in the listing.  Looks incomplete in other ways.  And he’s a high-volume seller, so he probably hasn’t noticed that one of his listings went sideways.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 12, 2022, 12:59:39 AM
He's a nice guy and a knowledgeable seller.  May have just been a typo, maybe a decimal point.

Agreed.  He has ended the listing, most likely realizing that he made a mistake.   

I hope he has a good sense of humor ...five grand?   whoa!!!!    I've got an extra ANS9 set I'll sell ya for a bargain 2 grand.    :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 22, 2022, 12:40:37 AM
Not a deep belly laugh, but a chuckle nonetheless.
Description says "new".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284704090429?hash=item4249afa93d:g:9SIAAOSwZ3FfwqO9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on March 22, 2022, 09:22:41 AM
Not a deep belly laugh, but a chuckle nonetheless.
Description says "new".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284704090429?hash=item4249afa93d:g:9SIAAOSwZ3FfwqO9

it's a rare and elusive "restuck"....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 02, 2022, 01:55:53 PM
This seller sure has a way to get you to look at the items for sale:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on April 02, 2022, 02:13:48 PM
This seller sure has a way to get you to look at the items for sale:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
There is a guy who sells only T-Shirts and yeah, he has a "pair" of nice looking "helpers" as well
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 02, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
Funny, they don't do a thing for me!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 02, 2022, 02:55:21 PM
Funny, I just bought everything, and I cant remember any single item for sale.


JIM
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 02, 2022, 07:15:29 PM
This seller sure has a way to get you to look at the items for sale:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

I’ll have to add that seller to my favorites as to keep abreast of their sales.  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on April 02, 2022, 11:25:56 PM
Funny, they don't do a thing for me!

Me neither!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on April 03, 2022, 06:58:22 AM
I absolutely hate when eBay sellers do this! The guy who is selling that crap is using his girlfriend...or god forbid daughter....to show other guys what they CAN'T have in the photos.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 07, 2022, 10:20:19 AM
Today on e-bay…OS Series 3 Beanball…PSA 10…starting bid…$1,500….Will anyone actually pay that??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on April 07, 2022, 07:47:32 PM
That would be a lot of wishful thinking built into that price
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 08, 2022, 04:37:47 AM
Maybe Nicolas Cage???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 09, 2022, 08:40:28 PM
If that wacky could talk....  I would buy it for a dollar just knowing it has been through a lot...  :)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234498128320?hash=item36992d79c0:g:WTUAAOSwq-1iMnJ3
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 09, 2022, 08:45:11 PM
Another gem!  Good Ol' Ronnie Rocker!  Always good for a laugh!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265353182837?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D237921%26meid%3Dadb52e9708b04232b51f07bb1bd97865%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D234502236386%26itm%3D265353182837%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWebMskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeed%26brand%3DTopps&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A265353182837adb52e9708b04232b51f07bb1bd97865%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABMIIp3bTCXFAKw6S9crk9CpCrrtOgadqFiC10NVPbN0936eprYVB4SXfDa52e1mbPLCATjURMJJ9%252BQ5BmMfThW5bOC9vWtAF3tYb0WnEYRZOZvwzWvPRw9VjTjwypXHyGwOr71Xe5EvmciThsBsSXBg%252BeQPZfxkUwgVcgJ9hJpoggNIfYNETuZDrP7js%252BZfiQ327wYvhzdbNS9XKT%252BcYPhdnRBajM9ZMNVmciwirh6ZGg0lIeZtokRNpjUj2vk4EDNTvgChn6T9LUFjoO0SgmQMYPCJTWgODUgijgjDy2ShZ53ueK1g1sF0Xm1juFTEqkjhwiQlzQrgK9hWNj7fF8WPNODxCPoHjIco1y78tSho27hAL0QyIObD9XqB6RzMve2%252BTHKLrTxxZ0CUBn2L8qfMA%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 09, 2022, 08:47:31 PM
I think he meant $14???  LOL
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265534049926?hash=item3dd3100e86:g:WyAAAOSwZL1hYdXn
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 09, 2022, 08:55:54 PM
I would not pay 25 cent for these stickers he is putting on Ebay....  LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363593221617?hash=item54a7d845f1:g:PjwAAOSwY5lhddnz
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 18, 2022, 12:15:44 PM
Here is another gem....  I am hoping he meant to ask $80, only because of the Pupsi if in NRMT shape


https://www.ebay.com/itm/185420825417?hash=item2b2bf14349:g:gBwAAOSwiG5iezev
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on May 18, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
Here is another gem....  I am hoping he meant to ask $80, only because of the Pupsi if in NRMT shape


https://www.ebay.com/itm/185420825417?hash=item2b2bf14349:g:gBwAAOSwiG5iezev

1967?! The seller is off by about 8 years!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on May 18, 2022, 05:22:09 PM
PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO OUTBID ME!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHA

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 18, 2022, 09:08:13 PM
PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO OUTBID ME!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHA

Richard
#StayWacky

and he doesn't even bother to say the quantity of stickers or condition.  Also, one of the pics has puzzle pieces.  Are those included....  I would stay away from this one like the plague
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on May 19, 2022, 04:40:07 PM
     I'm really surprised he changed the listing, I should have also asked about the puzzle pieces and of course the price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 21, 2022, 06:23:48 PM
     I'm really surprised he changed the listing, I should have also asked about the puzzle pieces and of course the price.

To think I was about to drop a similar dime on a Wacky Packages 1st and 2nd Ludlow set, 1967 die cut set, Wacky Ad set and 3rd white back set for less.....  LOL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174913618393?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=174913618393&targetid=4580496732614411&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418233788&mkgroupid=1230353745471221&rlsatarget=pla-4580496732614411&abcId=9300542&merchantid=51291&msclkid=7b7bd5388d0a185eff70b7b1022179fb
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on May 21, 2022, 06:36:52 PM
I actually have one of these but it isn't 98% full, so because of that I can let you have it for only $3,500.    8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on May 21, 2022, 07:06:52 PM
I have one too, in my work locker. I guess I should put that in my safe deposit box....damn!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 21, 2022, 07:07:21 PM
I actually have one of these but it isn't 98% full, so because of that I can let you have it for only $3,500.    8)

LOL. I love Polo green....  I bought a Polo green mini about 6 mos ago and it is still only about 10% used.  It was my "go to" fragrance back in the day!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 21, 2022, 07:09:41 PM
I have one too, in my work locker. I guess I should put that in my safe deposit box....damn!!!

LOL... polo green cologne.....  is and was and will always be the bomb!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 21, 2022, 07:16:16 PM
I actually have one of these but it isn't 98% full, so because of that I can let you have it for only $3,500.    8)

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 21, 2022, 07:18:19 PM
LOL. I love Polo green....  I bought a Polo green mini about 6 mos ago and it is still only about 10% used.  It was my "go to" fragrance back in the day!

I think I paid like $20 bucks or less
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on May 24, 2022, 01:57:32 AM
 I have a few Polo shirts from the 80's.   I'll let 'em go at 2K a pop.   98% used.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 27, 2022, 02:18:49 PM
I have a few Polo shirts from the 80's.   I'll let 'em go at 2K a pop.   98% used.

another gem!  Too bad butter was smeared all over the lense before taking the pics, which I would be hard pressed to pay anything for based on the listing..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/173858389739?hash=item287ac47eeb:g:krIAAOSw-R5cZ2db
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 27, 2022, 10:35:14 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195086022337?hash=item2d6c0876c1:g:HM0AAOSwa-RikAHu

I cant believe how clean the borders are. No writing no typing, Awesome!!!


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 28, 2022, 12:07:20 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195086022337?hash=item2d6c0876c1:g:HM0AAOSwa-RikAHu

I cant believe how clean the borders are. No writing no typing, Awesome!!!


Jim

I can't believe people are soo ignorant as to put an auction like this up with the conditions he is claiming.  a 2 minute google search would have shown him how to rate these stickers.  Border-less stickers are worthless outside of a few very rare stickers which would have some value.  Also, he is using the term die-cut wrong IMHO that should only refer to the 1967 die-cut set.  These are not from the 1960s as we all know
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on May 28, 2022, 12:52:30 PM
I can't believe people are soo ignorant as to put an auction like this up with the conditions he is claiming.  a 2 minute google search would have shown him how to rate these stickers.  Border-less stickers are worthless outside of a few very rare stickers which would have some value.  Also, he is using the term die-cut wrong IMHO that should only refer to the 1967 die-cut set.  These are not from the 1960s as we all know


the comedy never ends..  check out this auction....  I would not pay 25 cent for it... I paid $8 for 1-4 reprints back in 1990....  Damn I wish I still had them and did not sell em
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293474805673?hash=item44547627a9:g:fSIAAOSwSGNeRbNU
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 28, 2022, 07:48:08 PM

the comedy never ends..  check out this auction....  I would not pay 25 cent for it...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293474805673?hash=item44547627a9:g:fSIAAOSwSGNeRbNU

But this is card #1, and they always get rubber band damage - just like this one! ...and it's got a camel on it, aren't those really rare and valuable???

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 28, 2022, 09:33:26 PM

the comedy never ends..  check out this auction....  I would not pay 25 cent for it... I paid $8 for 1-4 reprints back in 1990....  Damn I wish I still had them and did not sell em
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293474805673?hash=item44547627a9:g:fSIAAOSwSGNeRbNU


I don't think you know just what you are looking at SIR! THAT, my good friend is an infamous RARE front upside down dead Ludlow. So rare its boarder line illegal.

Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 29, 2022, 10:29:27 AM
I guess the market will sort it out…..when no one bids on garbage cards…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on May 29, 2022, 08:40:13 PM
But this is card #1, and they always get rubber band damage - just like this one! ...and it's got a camel on it, aren't those really rare and valuable???


  Don't forget that this is the hard to find "Wackey". Not to be confused with whackey, whacky or wacky.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on May 30, 2022, 04:54:58 AM
  Don't forget that this is the hard to find "Wackey". Not to be confused with whackey, whacky or wacky.
Thats funny! I had not even noticed that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on June 03, 2022, 02:56:21 PM
   GUARANTEED to be an authentic sticker. Just under $300.00.   https://www.ebay.com/itm/234578058454?hash=item369df11cd6:g:XGYAAOSw-ldhxNDx
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 08, 2022, 03:10:56 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164175624877?hash=item2639a13aad:g:GsQAAOSwb85epdZq


As I bow and step back.

Comments please...


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 08, 2022, 03:19:59 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164175624877?hash=item2639a13aad:g:GsQAAOSwb85epdZq


As I bow and step back.

Comments please...


Jim

That sticker needs a border patrol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 08, 2022, 03:28:58 PM
Look deeper...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 08, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
Look deeper...

Ah yes, the very rare "Epson" back.  Much rarer than a Ludlow back.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 15, 2022, 05:39:24 AM
I think this one takes the cake!

eBay auction: #304526804101
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 15, 2022, 06:02:35 AM
I think this one takes the cake!

eBay auction: #304526804101

But it's one of a kind!   :85:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 15, 2022, 06:40:56 AM
But it's one of a kind!   :85:

True.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on June 15, 2022, 12:41:51 PM
I think this one takes the cake!

eBay auction: #304526804101

It's not Emptimo, but some things are very missing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 15, 2022, 01:38:08 PM
But it's one of a kind!

It is!  It has Polluto spelled on way on the front of the package and Pollutto spelled another way on the top. 

Wait... they're all like that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: All-Brain on June 15, 2022, 06:34:28 PM
I think this one takes the cake!

eBay auction: #304526804101
That must be a joke right? I don't want to be disrespectful but are there really people that delusional that would feel there is that kind of value on an item like that? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 16, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
...but are there really people that delusional that would feel there is that kind of value on an item like that?
Yes. Not sure "delusional" is the right term. Maybe "ignorant" or "uninformed".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 16, 2022, 09:57:10 AM
Yes. Not sure "delusional" is the right term. Maybe "ignorant" or "uninformed".

And apparently either not aware of how to look up comparable items/prices, or too lazy or preoccupied to do so.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 16, 2022, 08:16:43 PM
I'm sorry I'm harsh, but there is only one word for this and that word is "STUPID" straight up and down! Anyone who thinks mouse piss stained and chewed on is worth anything is an "IDIOT". 

Jim

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on June 17, 2022, 04:09:21 AM
And apparently either not aware of how to look up comparable items/prices, or too lazy or preoccupied to do so.

That's why you see people making money selling courses on "How to sell on eBay."  I watched one of the infomercials for it many years ago, and it was 90% common sense (research the item, research previous sales) and 10% decent information like what abbreviations to use that will be recognized by the eBay buyers (MIB = mint in box, NWT = new with tags).   

Seeing how dumb some of the sellers are, there are probably buyers who are just as stupid, so they wouldn't know what those abbreviations meant.  Of course those dummies are the ones who'd plunk down $25 for this sticker.  They're the same ones who really think the wife of Nelson Mandela needs to ship $18M in gold out of the country and will share it with them if they send her $500 to bribe the customs inspector.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on June 17, 2022, 06:27:04 PM
I MUST HAVE IT!!!!

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 23, 2022, 01:59:00 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143391990112?hash=item2162d42160:g:e5kAAOSw8G1diMc1



I think this should have been graded vg 3(MP)     (MP)=missing pieces


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 23, 2022, 02:10:14 PM
To the tune of the Sesame Street song...

"one of these cards is just like the other"..."one of these cards just doesn't belong"...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195162201275?hash=item2d7092dcbb:g:yjYAAOSwdcVitMxN

Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on June 23, 2022, 02:42:51 PM
To the tune of the Sesame Street song...

"one of these cards is just like the other"..."one of these cards just doesn't belong"...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195162201275?hash=item2d7092dcbb:g:yjYAAOSwdcVitMxN

Jim

Hmmm, a "complete" set that includes 2 Chock Full O Nuts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on June 24, 2022, 05:26:40 AM
Hmmm, a "complete" set that includes 2 Chock Full O Nuts.

At least he was very honest about the condition of the cards...  you don't see that very often
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 24, 2022, 09:04:10 PM
I always wondered what the lowest score you can get submitting a card, comic, or magazine. I had no idea they went this low. :o :o :o

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203914056152?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 06, 2022, 12:38:31 PM
I always wondered what the lowest score you can get submitting a card, comic, or magazine. I had no idea they went this low.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203914056152?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649

If I owned this one, I'd try to scrub off the decimal point, so I could get a 5.

I think one of the grading companies has a "verified" rating, which means it's an actual item, but it's either trimmed or damaged to the point where they won't place a numerical grade on it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 06, 2022, 12:41:44 PM
These two really have misleading subjects -- at least the photo doesn't match, and there's nothing in the description that helps

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325256623596
https://www.ebay.com/itm/325256644054

Thought it would be better to just quote myself with my later thoughts.

I think the description should say something like this:

Love Wacky Packages, but can't afford to buy them?  Or are you tired of Topps charging you immediately and taking months after your order to actually deliver them?  No problem! Just buy this and make your own!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on July 12, 2022, 08:44:51 PM
I am terrible at sharing links, but there is a single pack of 1979 re-issues, Series One on e-bay….for $210…..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 12, 2022, 10:38:12 PM
He's exaggerating, its only 209.99


https://www.ebay.com/itm/394091274011?hash=item5bc1ab9f1b:g:sXMAAOSwuAxij57G


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 13, 2022, 03:55:15 AM
And the kicker is, the pack has been opened! 😂
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on July 13, 2022, 04:44:26 AM
$209.99? Why thats two tanks of gasoline around these parts! Thats my trick…compared to gasoline, EVERYTHING sounds reasonably priced…..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 13, 2022, 11:14:08 AM
And the kicker is, the pack has been opened! 😂

Also the gum is intact with only one break in it.

I guess by intact, the seller means all the gum is still there?  I would say that the break does damage it, but apparently not?  So whoever opened it didn't want to take a small sample?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on July 13, 2022, 01:27:51 PM
Ignoring the face that there's a full box of 1979 for $999 on eBay, making $200 ridiculous for a pack, for a moment:

Average Price for gasoline in 1979 was $.086
Price of a 1979 Wacky Pack was $0.20
Making the pack worth 23.25% of a gallon of gas at the time when the pack was box-fresh, Minty-Mint PSA10.

In CA, I'm paying around $6.50 per gallon (yah, sucks)
So, doing the math... that pack should go for about a buck-fifty ($1.50) at the most.
Well... unless the price of a VINTAGE gallon of gas saved in a canister from 1979 (preferably purchased at a Stuckey's) has gone up to $860...

If the zombies keep multiplying, I think I'd rather have the $860 can of gas than the $200 pack at this point.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on July 13, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
Gas “down” to $4.50 per gallon here in midwest…Wackies are a bargain…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 14, 2022, 12:45:52 PM
He's exaggerating, its only 209.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394091274011?hash=item5bc1ab9f1b:g:sXMAAOSwuAxij57G

Did anyone else get an offer from the seller for $99.99?  I politely declined and let the seller know that it was really only worth about $5-6 unopened and even less now that it isn't - also that the gum didn't add any value, even if it had been unbroken.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on July 17, 2022, 03:04:36 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234621530122

Ok why over $100 for this lot?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on July 17, 2022, 03:47:34 PM
     My only guess is that the buyer did not read very well and might have thought these were unopened packs. ??

     Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 19, 2022, 03:50:42 AM
There are a couple of those that I need, but I certainly wouldn't have paid anywhere near that much for them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on July 21, 2022, 04:13:37 PM
So there is a seller with two individual auctions each for one unopened pack. Asking price is $80. Light blue packs could be series 5,6,7, or 15…Are those packs worth $80?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 22, 2022, 05:41:25 AM
So there is a seller with two individual auctions each for one unopened pack. Asking price is $80. Light blue packs could be series 5,6,7, or 15…Are those packs worth $80?
John,
I am thinking like the concensus here that the guy is just selling the wrappers, All of us are scratching our heads saying that is not worth the price of admission
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on August 05, 2022, 02:01:39 PM
I don't know where to begin describing this one!  ;D

The seller tried to place an album sticker on a larger reprint sticker card, then listed the auction twice?

(https://i.postimg.cc/tsCBMft6/Screen-Shot-2022-08-05-at-3-59-21-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/tsCBMft6)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 05, 2022, 02:46:14 PM
     That's a low price for what that seller originally had it. I think it was $899.99. I tried to talk sense to them, but they are in their own world.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 09, 2022, 12:37:33 PM
This one's for Jason:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275415722579

I guess there's appeal to 40 year old gum that doesn't have any kind of trading card?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lcummins on August 09, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
This one's for Jason:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275415722579

I guess there's appeal to 40 year old gum that doesn't have any kind of trading card?

Candy and gum collectors are serious buyers! If you think that is crazy, look at this finished auction for Bazooka Bits box with 20/24 packs. Granted, Bazooka Bits are extremely rare and may have even been a test issue, but...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204015952860?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=ZN61u2VGiQ7hIQ7P9%252BcwBn5XGZI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc (https://www.ebay.com/itm/204015952860?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=ZN61u2VGiQ7hIQ7P9%252BcwBn5XGZI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 09, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
Candy and gum collectors are serious buyers! If you think that is crazy, look at this finished auction for Bazooka Bits box with 20/24 packs. Granted, Bazooka Bits are extremely rare and may have even been a test issue, but...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204015952860?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=ZN61u2VGiQ7hIQ7P9%252BcwBn5XGZI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc (https://www.ebay.com/itm/204015952860?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=ZN61u2VGiQ7hIQ7P9%252BcwBn5XGZI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc)

Yikes!  Looking at the bid history, it was apparently 3 bidders that really wanted this item.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 09, 2022, 05:05:04 PM
Yikes!  Looking at the bid history, it was apparently 3 bidders that really wanted this item.
3 hours before auction end one of them decides to start running it up.  The day before the auction ended, the other guy ran it up.  The winner put his high bid in days before auction end.  Is the new stupid to run up auctions long before auction end instead of sniping?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on August 10, 2022, 01:06:41 PM
This is soo crazy....  I would not pay 3 bucks for it.  What do you think?  Some sellers are insane!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303968704409?hash=item46c5f25799:g:-EkAAOSwYRRgf1RI
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 10, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
This is soo crazy....  I would not pay 3 bucks for it.  What do you think?  Some sellers are insane!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303968704409?hash=item46c5f25799:g:-EkAAOSwYRRgf1RI

It is people who don’t know anything about wackys. They see a PSA 10 vintage sticker sell for big bucks and don’t understand the difference. I have at times purchased a PSA 10 reissue for as little as $6.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 10, 2022, 04:06:38 PM
This is soo crazy....  I would not pay 3 bucks for it.  What do you think?  Some sellers are insane!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303968704409?hash=item46c5f25799:g:-EkAAOSwYRRgf1RI
    Not to mention that this is not even the slightly harder to find "Italy" cereal premium. A 10 IMO would fetch around $20 at most.
     Matt
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on August 10, 2022, 07:57:22 PM
That seller is classic for serious over-pricing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 11, 2022, 06:13:11 AM
3 hours before auction end one of them decides to start running it up.  The day before the auction ended, the other guy ran it up.  The winner put his high bid in days before auction end.  Is the new stupid to run up auctions long before auction end instead of sniping?

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on August 11, 2022, 06:20:01 AM
Yikes!  Looking at the bid history, it was apparently 3 bidders that really wanted this item.

The same winner is the high bidder on the 1980s Bubble Yum.

Apparently s/he has a ton of money because every item in their 30-day bid history is the highest bid
https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/ViewBidderProfile?&mode=1&item=204015952860&bidtid=2139882443010
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 11, 2022, 09:00:42 AM
This auction isn't over as of right now but this is crazy for a 1980's item, even if it does say "Wacky' Fruit:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275415722579?hash=item40200e6a53:g:3ZAAAOSwPr9i8ZXO
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 22, 2022, 08:36:09 AM
    Wow, what an incredible deal. They even opened the pack and let you see what's inside.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394091274011?hash=item5bc1ab9f1b:g:sXMAAOSwuAxij57G&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4C3BWmfGmkeg0sG88HWnOSnll6s97i5LHGCRxe1wpj0txUxU9YLYMRneyVk1acnGq9lrkpQ1A0vaQMIX%2BY4P26arIrvFSZZdCcFQouodE5LxlfpzjnkfpWkFu0R8LXVVCJXpPrg7xdHOPXi3RuokYcYxNTsDg0IDff4ocvYvr2BQgTS%2BqRNwb9%2BSvlwdsHOc7HiLQVrl0iLrnIQuPlWQp0bDn8wv6yvHCC1a69qLwcXFlqQBj6j1wtsyNgwuh4zekmppsc1%2BdyyDqXXM9UzdS43moKUwLapHl0fA9HCfRDAF%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_KPzeLYYA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on August 22, 2022, 08:55:20 AM
    Wow, what an incredible deal. They even opened the pack and let you see what's inside.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394091274011?hash=item5bc1ab9f1b:g:sXMAAOSwuAxij57G&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4C3BWmfGmkeg0sG88HWnOSnll6s97i5LHGCRxe1wpj0txUxU9YLYMRneyVk1acnGq9lrkpQ1A0vaQMIX%2BY4P26arIrvFSZZdCcFQouodE5LxlfpzjnkfpWkFu0R8LXVVCJXpPrg7xdHOPXi3RuokYcYxNTsDg0IDff4ocvYvr2BQgTS%2BqRNwb9%2BSvlwdsHOc7HiLQVrl0iLrnIQuPlWQp0bDn8wv6yvHCC1a69qLwcXFlqQBj6j1wtsyNgwuh4zekmppsc1%2BdyyDqXXM9UzdS43moKUwLapHl0fA9HCfRDAF%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_KPzeLYYA

The gum slab is broken, otherwise I would jump all over that rare and valuable puppy...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 15, 2022, 05:28:16 PM
Not sure if this guy is nuts or not. Seller named monkeydogz has a very beat up but completely full of 48 packs OS Ten on e-bay for $2,500. I believe OS packs contained 2 stickers, so 96 stickers. Even if you pulled 3 complete sets (super unlikely) you could buy 3 sets with Pupsi for about $450….so the box is worth $2,000?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 15, 2022, 06:37:15 PM
Not sure if this guy is nuts or not. Seller named monkeydogz has a very beat up but completely full of 48 packs OS Ten on e-bay for $2,500. I believe OS packs contained 2 stickers, so 96 stickers. Even if you pulled 3 complete sets (super unlikely) you could buy 3 sets with Pupsi for about $450….so the box is worth $2,000?
IMO, I don’t think you’re taking into account that this is unopened material. Is $2500 a good number? Not sure. But, what is offered is certainly worth more than the $450 you came up with. Kind of a “worth more than the sum of its parts” sort of thing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on September 15, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Not sure if this guy is nuts or not. Seller named monkeydogz has a very beat up but completely full of 48 packs OS Ten on e-bay for $2,500. I believe OS packs contained 2 stickers, so 96 stickers. Even if you pulled 3 complete sets (super unlikely) you could buy 3 sets with Pupsi for about $450….so the box is worth $2,000?
I concur with Big Tumi.  It is real hard to find unopened materiel out there.  It could be worth 2500 to the right person as I have seen packs sell for over 50 dollars a pack.  Me, I am closer to the 1.5 -2k range on its value
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 16, 2022, 08:29:05 AM
Still too rich for my blood. I was just curious…in case i find a winning lottery ticket on the ground…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 16, 2022, 09:50:29 AM
in case i find a winning lottery ticket on the ground…

If you do, then it's the one I dropped, and I want it back!  And I can prove that it's mine because it has the winning numbers, duh?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 19, 2022, 12:25:04 PM
He also offers an unopened box of 7th Series for $1,500…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 19, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
He also offers an unopened box of 7th Series for $1,500…

That’s not crazy. Given that the box isn’t in great shape I would say more like $1200….the packs look very fresh and nice.

He doesn’t seem to understand that 10ths really aren’t worth more than 7ths.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 19, 2022, 08:02:11 PM
Im just surprised how much unopened OS packs and boxes go for. Given the finite and shrinking number of collectors, there must be a few White Whales buying these listings ….or no one is…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on September 19, 2022, 08:56:41 PM
wackys are in transition just like (for an example Mars attacks or 3 Stooges). What I am getting at is most people that collect those series are not the same people that bought them off the store shelves.  Wackys are shifting from us 55-60 year old people to younger people.  It just takes a little while for the change.  The only problem is a lot of people don 't have any connection to cards.  So it makes it hard.  The SI set did introduce people to wackys and as things change the vintage will be wanted.  Take a look at Davy Crocket cards.  Even though the majority of people who bought these new have passed on,  there is still demand for them.  However the more worn copies are still not worth that much.  This is sort of what I feel will happen with our beloved wackys.  I though will have my keeper set and will pass on the other sets I have.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 20, 2022, 04:24:16 AM
Joe - I have my doubts that wackys will ever become sought after by younger collectors. It happens with baseball cards because they were continuously published over generations. Wackys were a short term niche product that was extremely popular with people in maybe a five year age window. I just don’t see how younger people would ever be interested enough to collect seriously.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 20, 2022, 05:01:48 AM
My kid enjoys helping me collect….but mostly for the “get the complete set” thing. She has no connection to MOST of the products…..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on September 20, 2022, 09:12:31 AM
Joe - I have my doubts that wackys will ever become sought after by younger collectors. It happens with baseball cards because they were continuously published over generations. Wackys were a short term niche product that was extremely popular with people in maybe a five year age window. I just don’t see how younger people would ever be interested enough to collect seriously.
I do see your point and that is why I compared them to "Davy Crocket cards". They are still collected, however the original collectors are most likely gone.  Wackys will never be like baseball cards, but with the new items (SI) it does help to expose people to them.  People are going to be surprised when they think their cards are worth X and they only get Y.  You can see this with all the rarer cards showing up.  I know that I pay up for high grade cards however that is also coming down as my last auction I purchased many PSA 10's way under what I would of paid a few years ago.  (I just enjoy them so I will continue to upgrade them)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 20, 2022, 09:35:22 AM
That is exactly the scenario I anticipated years ago. 15 years ago I was hot to buy full boxes and other expensive items. But the older I get, I am backing off of a lot of that. And I think that is somewhat typical of what happens as collectors age. I just am not sure how many buyers there are for a $5K+ full box at this point. Certainly a few, but it just is nothing like it was 15 years ago.

Of course with unopened sports cards, it is hotter than ever with buyers of all ages for vintage unopened.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 20, 2022, 09:36:14 AM
Im just surprised how much unopened OS packs and boxes go for.
Why? What percentage of OS material (of the millions of stickers/packs sold and thousands of display boxes) was not opened nor discarded over the last ~50 years? I don't know exactly, but I'd suspect it's extremely low. VERY few folks bought a box and just kept it as is all this time. At least to me, this is a case where rarity DOES reflect value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 20, 2022, 09:37:36 AM
Why? What percentage of OS material (of the millions of stickers/packs sold and thousands of display boxes) was not opened nor discarded over the last ~50 years? I don't know exactly, but I'd suspect it's extremely low. VERY few folks bought a box and just kept it as is all this time. At least to me, this is a case where rarity DOES reflect value.

That is exactly right. Most of the value in unopened material has little to do with the value of the contents, except if a particular star card is visible.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 20, 2022, 05:55:37 PM
I just want to listen to paul mccartney and Wings…and open Wacky Packs…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on September 23, 2022, 06:41:45 PM
I just want to paul mccartney and Wings…and open Wacky Packs…

I heard a rumor that Paul was in a band before the Wings.    :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 02, 2022, 05:58:33 PM
Another chance to score a 1967 die cut at a discounted price  8) 8) 8) 8)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/385148125318?hash=item59ac9e0086:g:ocgAAOSw~AFjOhHQ&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsLLl5mI3CHfCNQCJCYgMOYAdY2RN0T45ljPL35StJnQfCqtLq%2Bx2HMGlYKj2Oz8BYFR3y5rkmhX4QG3JX0owwsH6Nfow%2BGWGZuqq9dQ6silJgyEKwHl%2BBfjEkDVzh9z2L7fVnG4awJMj0bJvZCuztC42vXFLGwCKWCaFT5wD6LCM%2BnzHWNrwMa7ehh%2Bbd7cgRG7cMawmrPz29XQ0NU2sW9ot3MAkzGSmhOEjMatAF0ra%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8K6jbXzYA
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on October 02, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
    Lol, apparently this Skimpy is even more valuable to this seller.     https://www.ebay.com/itm/385148144595?hash=item59ac9e4bd3:g:q34AAOSwwwpjOhYo

     Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 02, 2022, 07:10:41 PM
    Lol, apparently this Skimpy is even more valuable to this seller.     https://www.ebay.com/itm/385148144595?hash=item59ac9e4bd3:g:q34AAOSwwwpjOhYo

     Matt.

It is just the photo, or is the perf at the top popped?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on October 03, 2022, 08:50:38 AM
     I can't tell for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on October 06, 2022, 08:10:25 PM
I know many of you don't like Ebay, but I like to look to see what is out there and what people think they can get for some wackies.

However, you also need to look at the S & H costs.

For example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/265911488793?hash=item3de98f5119:g:UZMAAOSwaQZjCNqq

$84.88 for Economy Shipping?!?!?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 06, 2022, 09:12:48 PM
$84.88 for Economy Shipping?!?!?

I wonder what the priority shipping would be?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on October 07, 2022, 02:35:39 AM
I wonder what the priority shipping would be?

$939.21
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 07, 2022, 02:59:38 AM
$939.21

Actually when I clicked on the See Details link, it was $91.31.  I think I would pay the extra $7 to get it to me quicker.

I'm guessing that it's a typo.  I used a USPS calculator to estimate the cost of shipping a standard medium size box of 11" x 8-1/2" x 5" weighing one pound from Houston to my zip code and the price was...drumroll...

$8.49

which suspiciously looks like they forgot to divide their $84.88 by 10 - or maybe they just mark everything up by 10, in which case they really are nuts!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on October 07, 2022, 03:01:35 AM
I wonder what the priority shipping would be?

It's actually listed as $91.31 under "Shipping and payments."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on October 07, 2022, 05:28:30 AM
    S&H has apparently been reduced. It is now showing only $76.44 economy.

    SMH, Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on October 07, 2022, 07:23:06 AM
A seller has a “rare” uncut sheet of First Series Re-Issues listed for $1,100! Aren’t these sheets super common, worth about $50??? It looks like it is an original printers sheet marked with lines fir the cuts….does that make it more valuable???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 07, 2022, 08:36:41 AM
A seller has a “rare” uncut sheet of First Series Re-Issues listed for $1,100! Aren’t these sheets super common, worth about $50??? It looks like it is an original printers sheet marked with lines fir the cuts….does that make it more valuable???

Those look like the standard lines on any uncut sheet, so no it's not rare.  These used to sell for $9.99 for a time after a ton of them (literally?) were found in a warehouse.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on October 07, 2022, 04:04:24 PM
    S&H has apparently been reduced. It is now showing only $76.44 economy.

    SMH, Matt.

Seller relisted it.  $84.88 economy shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on October 13, 2022, 06:27:28 PM
     Wow, how many things are off on this listing?    https://www.ebay.com/itm/185617432955?hash=item2b37a9417b:g:WBkAAOSwMqljSJP6&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoMr5u0fefxbG8g2kW4r4PbCbEvFA3RqswisUI5AOZUVhQFcujoHoo3rKtCOSb01b%2F9lWvZJdArowdpGhnO%2BwiJMUEWK25oIH7ulkD3zfJjERmyCo80iTAK7FhLY3rL%2Bt0DS8EPiZ98aI2XKWgvauV%2F0MmhPpHuEJDiMdlwPG8Hf7c0lUqgm00%2B8RqzgoDPe66skCke4iJ0lf5lq8lXRwCRA%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8D7ycH6YA

     Matt
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on October 13, 2022, 07:09:51 PM
     Wow, how many things are off on this listing?    https://www.ebay.com/itm/185617432955?hash=item2b37a9417b:g:WBkAAOSwMqljSJP6&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoMr5u0fefxbG8g2kW4r4PbCbEvFA3RqswisUI5AOZUVhQFcujoHoo3rKtCOSb01b%2F9lWvZJdArowdpGhnO%2BwiJMUEWK25oIH7ulkD3zfJjERmyCo80iTAK7FhLY3rL%2Bt0DS8EPiZ98aI2XKWgvauV%2F0MmhPpHuEJDiMdlwPG8Hf7c0lUqgm00%2B8RqzgoDPe66skCke4iJ0lf5lq8lXRwCRA%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8D7ycH6YA

     Matt

date, series, scarcity to name a few... this is one of the most common wackys from the original series....  worth a dollar in NRMT IMHO
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 13, 2022, 07:16:02 PM
date, series, scarcity to name a few... this is one of the most common wackys from the original series....  worth a dollar in NRMT IMHO
All his common WP singles are listed at $250 opening bid, even a borderless Mop & Glop.  I’d like to think no one would ever fall for it and this douche of a seller is just wasting his own time with these delusional listings, but who know, will have to look at his recently completed listings and see if anyone has fallen victim.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on October 13, 2022, 07:19:52 PM
Mostly ‘private listings’ where you can’t see the details of what was sold or for how much.  No accident I’m sure. . . .
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ToadallyDude on October 21, 2022, 05:14:50 PM
Let's hope someday we're not all kicking ourselves for not buying the $250 common 8th series stickers.  One of the most insanely priced things I've ever seen.  But then again... $20 common 16th series stickers and diecuts seemed insane once too.  heh.  Maybe he just saw the growing inflation numbers and was planning ahead for 2023...?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on November 12, 2022, 08:13:22 PM
There is currently an unopened pack of 16th series on Fleabay for $300. Ripoff?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 13, 2022, 09:29:17 AM
There is currently an unopened pack of 16th series on Fleabay for $300. Ripoff?
Do you just think anything that's expensive (from your perspective) is a ripoff? You need to consider the rarity, demand and supply, not just the price. Seems like we've been over this material before.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on November 13, 2022, 10:12:14 AM
There are two other slabbed and graded 16th packs listed at $499 and $599. I wouldn't pay that much. I'm not sure I see much advantage to having packs professionally graded. Yes, the slabbing protects them, but it seems like a buzzkill.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on November 13, 2022, 11:48:58 AM
Yes, I was just wondering. I realize how rare unopened OD packs are. Just wondering if its worth $300 for 3 stickers. Heres another item up right now….OS 1-15 collection, all titles, cannot tell condition, but seller is asking $3,600. Having an instant collection kind if takes all the fun out of it…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 13, 2022, 01:07:52 PM
There are two other slabbed and graded 16th packs listed at $499 and $599. I wouldn't pay that much. I'm not sure I see much advantage to having packs professionally graded. Yes, the slabbing protects them, but it seems like a buzzkill.

The advantage (assuming you trust the grader) is that the pack is legit, unlike most raw packs on eBay.

The Global 7.5 graded pack is from an era when that company was not reliable, so I would avoid that one.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on November 13, 2022, 02:06:02 PM
The advantage (assuming you trust the grader) is that the pack is legit, unlike most raw packs on eBay.

The Global 7.5 graded pack is from an era when that company was not reliable, so I would avoid that one.

Yes, there lies the rub. I've seen enough mistakes from PSA to be leery. If you think that GAI is knowledgeable enough to spot resealed packs, etc., that would add an extra layer of protection.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 13, 2022, 04:39:15 PM
Yes, there lies the rub. I've seen enough mistakes from PSA to be leery. If you think that GAI is knowledgeable enough to spot resealed packs, etc., that would add an extra layer of protection.

The original GAI was, and PSA certainly is.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 17, 2022, 09:03:39 PM
how is this possible


https://www.ebay.com/itm/255819923174?hash=item3b900e3ee6%3Ag%3AFx4AAOSwCJhjbGfu&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoNeoKP1y50XXK4o%2BR%2FTvaOHDMnS%2Fx9bt%2F7%2Frw3HNmCbsvR%2FTVE5n3ZovU2pi%2BXGmd8fNq4L8LWonAtBRP9EN4ZsFVu6Qd4GG%2F%2B3uifGChzq809LCLX%2F7uit%2FytsdTWlXQ6qWKIxBBc8XiOE1F5cou6vMSabD6Vcg2E7MuJR4bK6P5O0NmsY7fFp%2FAFqTGsoDr0PEiuituKfun3LhPMhoNOo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR87r35GRYQ&nma=true&si=muxZS8nqXrwICI4gl3s5%252FLRzs7Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on November 17, 2022, 11:57:46 PM
how is this possible


https://www.ebay.com/itm/255819923174?hash=item3b900e3ee6%3Ag%3AFx4AAOSwCJhjbGfu&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoNeoKP1y50XXK4o%2BR%2FTvaOHDMnS%2Fx9bt%2F7%2Frw3HNmCbsvR%2FTVE5n3ZovU2pi%2BXGmd8fNq4L8LWonAtBRP9EN4ZsFVu6Qd4GG%2F%2B3uifGChzq809LCLX%2F7uit%2FytsdTWlXQ6qWKIxBBc8XiOE1F5cou6vMSabD6Vcg2E7MuJR4bK6P5O0NmsY7fFp%2FAFqTGsoDr0PEiuituKfun3LhPMhoNOo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR87r35GRYQ&nma=true&si=muxZS8nqXrwICI4gl3s5%252FLRzs7Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Wow.

A borderless sticker slabbed and graded.    And a "VG-EX" label to boot.   Doesn't it cost more than this sticker sold for to even get it graded?   EX???   VG- at best in any universe.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on November 18, 2022, 05:21:02 AM
how is this possible


https://www.ebay.com/itm/255819923174?hash=item3b900e3ee6%3Ag%3AFx4AAOSwCJhjbGfu&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoNeoKP1y50XXK4o%2BR%2FTvaOHDMnS%2Fx9bt%2F7%2Frw3HNmCbsvR%2FTVE5n3ZovU2pi%2BXGmd8fNq4L8LWonAtBRP9EN4ZsFVu6Qd4GG%2F%2B3uifGChzq809LCLX%2F7uit%2FytsdTWlXQ6qWKIxBBc8XiOE1F5cou6vMSabD6Vcg2E7MuJR4bK6P5O0NmsY7fFp%2FAFqTGsoDr0PEiuituKfun3LhPMhoNOo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR87r35GRYQ&nma=true&si=muxZS8nqXrwICI4gl3s5%252FLRzs7Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
     I have had plenty of stickers sent back as unable to grade for numerous reasons, one would hope PSA would simply not grade it. I see this as disgusting. I wish I could say I smell a fish, but then again there are people out there that collect just about anything.

     Matt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on November 18, 2022, 06:09:27 AM
Wow.

A borderless sticker slabbed and graded.    And a "VG-EX" label to boot.   Doesn't it cost more than this sticker sold for to even get it graded?   EX???   VG- at best in any universe.

Another head-spinner from PSA. And a $4.25 winning bid. Someone may have picked this one up just for giggles.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on November 18, 2022, 06:26:00 AM
That's what I think, giggles.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on November 18, 2022, 06:45:57 AM
Another annoying thing about PSA is that for cards or stickers with a horizontal or "landscape" orientation, they are inconsistent as to whether the grading tag is on the left or the right.  Such a simple thing to fix, just issue a consistent policy for all your graders, but that apparently is not done.  Also, some items seem to have an extra layer of a thin cellophane around them inside the PSA case, and some don't.  What up with that?!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 18, 2022, 07:14:04 AM
I'm certainly not a fan of grading or PSA, but I wonder what percentage of their slabbed cards have these kinds of glaring mistakes.  We are always quick to point out the ones that are real head-scratchers like this one, but there must be millions that are done correctly, or they couldn't stay in business.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on November 25, 2022, 07:23:16 AM
I am not sure this is the right category for this post, but I am still shocked on how much some are will to spend on their Wacky Pacakges collection.

I am nuts for Wacky Packages, but not this nutty. YOU?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134340240998?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=bc56c9e121214254a1528ab6cb5ea74a&bu=43214099193&ut=RU&exe=0&ext=0&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20221125055335&segname=11021
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 25, 2022, 08:30:40 AM
I am not sure this is the right category for this post, but I am still shocked on how much some are will to spend on their Wacky Pacakges collection.

I am nuts for Wacky Packages, but not this nutty. YOU?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134340240998?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=bc56c9e121214254a1528ab6cb5ea74a&bu=43214099193&ut=RU&exe=0&ext=0&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20221125055335&segname=11021
I bought one of these with a yellow lid a while back for about half that much. Everyone has their limits, once in a while I’ll go a bit nuts if it’s something I really want.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on November 25, 2022, 09:26:36 AM
I bought one of these with a yellow lid a while back for about half that much. Everyone has their limits, once in a while I’ll go a bit nuts if it’s something I really want.

I still want a Wacky Truck!!  And some more glasses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on November 25, 2022, 09:45:24 AM
I am not sure this is the right category for this post, but I am still shocked on how much some are will to spend on their Wacky Pacakges collection.

I am nuts for Wacky Packages, but not this nutty. YOU?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134340240998?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=bc56c9e121214254a1528ab6cb5ea74a&bu=43214099193&ut=RU&exe=0&ext=0&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20221125055335&segname=11021
The mere notion of Shedd’s PB being an avenue of Wacky commerce doesn’t do much for me, even at a low price.  Maybe I’d feel differently if I had acquired some childhood Wackys that way, but I’ve never even heard of Shedd’s or any PB out of a plastic tub for that matter.  I’d sooner go for a nice 1973 Skippy jar or other matching real product.  Of course a 1973-74 Wonderbread bag would check both boxes, assuming there is a splash ad on the graphics.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on November 25, 2022, 03:58:05 PM
I am not sure this is the right category for this post, but I am still shocked on how much some are will to spend on their Wacky Pacakges collection.

I am nuts for Wacky Packages, but not this nutty. YOU?

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134340240998?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=bc56c9e121214254a1528ab6cb5ea74a&bu=43214099193&ut=RU&exe=0&ext=0&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20221125055335&segname=11021

     My only question would be if that lid is even the correct match? It is the wrong color and reads "CRUNCHY" and the bucket has no mention of crunchy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on November 25, 2022, 08:19:43 PM
     My only question would be if that lid is even the correct match? It is the wrong color and reads "CRUNCHY" and the bucket has no mention of crunchy.

I've never seen a bucket that distinguished between crunchy and smooth.  All of the ones I have are only on the lids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 27, 2022, 09:06:25 PM
The mere notion of Shedd’s PB being an avenue of Wacky commerce doesn’t do much for me, even at a low price.  Maybe I’d feel differently if I had acquired some childhood Wackys that way, but I’ve never even heard of Shedd’s or any PB out of a plastic tub for that matter.  I’d sooner go for a nice 1973 Skippy jar or other matching real product.  Of course a 1973-74 Wonderbread bag would check both boxes, assuming there is a splash ad on the graphics.
I am with you, there is nothing nostalgic about these bins for me.  I collected the whole Shedd's set more for the challenge than anything else then sold it off.   This is why I dumped my wacky ads and the multiple complete diecut sets I have had over the years, nothing nostalgic about them at all for me so I can't rationalize locking up the money in those especially high priced sets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on December 21, 2022, 06:31:03 AM
Never Peeled with only minor edge wear.   A real beauty.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394388480057?hash=item5bd362a039:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 21, 2022, 06:52:18 AM
Never Peeled with only minor edge wear.   A real beauty.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394388480057?hash=item5bd362a039:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o

Wow.  Just, wow..........
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 21, 2022, 07:10:38 AM
Wow.  Just, wow..........

But it's one of a kind!   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 21, 2022, 04:01:58 PM
Wow.  Just, wow..........

Oh, why didn’t they say it is vintage?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 21, 2022, 07:29:27 PM
Never Peeled with only minor edge wear.   A real beauty.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394388480057?hash=item5bd362a039:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o

I made him an offer...I offered to send him a garbage bag to throw that gem away.


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on December 21, 2022, 08:07:27 PM
Never Peeled with only minor edge wear.   A real beauty.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/394388480057?hash=item5bd362a039:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o

This seller's other Wackys look much better (some still far from good). She applied the same description to all of them. Once again, this thread answers its own question.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 22, 2022, 03:15:25 AM
This seller's other Wackys look much better (some still far from good).

The Big Baddy has little footprints in the border:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394389650551

Since she runs an antiquities store, and is trying to sell each one for $17.95, I hope she didn't pay a lot for these.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on December 22, 2022, 09:12:50 AM
There is a comic and rare book dealer on e-bay. He has some original paintings from a fairly popular pulp/comic artist. He has listed them time and again on e-vay, sometimes at around $1,000, sometimes twice that and sometimes in between. It is completely random. I e-mailed him once asking why the same painting went from $1,200 to $1,800…he replied “thats what i am asking at this time. You would be surprised. Sometimes they sell better at the higher price.” Which goes to show you the value of anything is….whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on December 22, 2022, 07:04:25 PM
The Big Baddy has little footprints in the border:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394389650551

Since she runs an antiquities store, and is trying to sell each one for $17.95, I hope she didn't pay a lot for these.

The footprints indicate that this sticker was part of the Lost Wackys "Walky" Packages sub-set that were mysteriously uncovered last week...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Swiski on December 23, 2022, 05:51:33 AM
The footprints indicate that this sticker was part of the Lost Wackys "Walky" Packages sub-set that were mysteriously uncovered last week...

Seriously?! Can you post a link to the article about these "Walky" Packages?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on December 23, 2022, 06:12:43 AM
Seriously?! Can you post a link to the article about these "Walky" Packages?

I think that post was pulling our leg (by the foot).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on December 23, 2022, 03:37:50 PM
The Big Baddy has little footprints in the border:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394389650551
As a kid I was always big on cereal box prizes, as I’m sure many here also were.

Sometime during the OS run, maybe sometime after, not sure, Honeycomb cereal had a prize I was SO pumped about at the time - a ‘footprint roller’.  Footprints of any one of three different types, I’m thinking human, bear paws and bird’s feet, something in that vein, were molded in relief on a cylindrical plastic drum with a handle.  Together with a black ink pad, you could ink up the roller and then roll out a path of prints on paper.  Didn’t work particularly well because the plastic didn’t hold ink like a rubber stamp does, but you could at least get one or two sets of prints after each inking.  Anyhoo, that’s where I think the prints on the Big Baddy came from.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on December 25, 2022, 09:05:27 AM
Jeff That is HYSTERICAL!

George!!!!!!!!

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 03, 2023, 07:27:53 AM
This really grinds my gears. They take a $2 pack, open it and try to sell the contents for STUPID money...Really?? assholes

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144884564610?hash=item21bbcb0282:g:eX4AAOSw18BgrHGa&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDOTDqProYTwmzE2tku9NR46IlX6yaIsP9n0b23oYR593KTKIqP5OJdJjHwyiQFLAxUPdV%2F9GjiGi5cFFGIeppUNykuw6kDbZCP7jlMsAw39M8cUUb5lxH2mdmsvZj34%2FLTEQbYFrwECDWHJaE7G9R3iBoUHoYg48FmlgaxJoRtGaW24DREXZQ%2FSfqmkUZDdcbmidErEwBGIbzmS6yxvZgI%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8yT3YOvYQ


Jim
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 03, 2023, 09:54:43 AM
This really grinds my gears. They take a $2 pack, open it and try to sell the contents for STUPID money...Really??

And they want $5.60 to ship it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 14, 2023, 11:25:52 AM
Is this just a joke or fer reals?   Never been peeled from the wrong backing, I can see that.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/394420621138?hash=item5bd54d0f52:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4FrkSQoZaOR0mVSBLeqOaDStLfWZD1gJ%2BgPd10W1%2BTV9McSiIEmlQRkdxclwE4FK3KDH8yR5qsjUhMmccwh%2Fx%2Fd3ULr3wuPFqHm6%2F%2B8F67VaP9JUe2CRoAKLplNXvmFRgNWpOVLYhRaVrs%2BwpPsSTC4t%2FXcb0Lk9RYJ%2FyCiz0zjS%2FzerKS80DoOMtcSYED71GOaNOOfAYXVSDX0Zifm2o3z5j9893AAXavaBnKLxSF4fO1WeDJpvfapCoiRiKHu3WYUy33mAo2JjB9NXsyexPkhk2rGkWpIBSohiMBZgjno0%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Dsz5u2YQ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on January 15, 2023, 02:42:54 PM
After an infuriating first take, I tried to think about this from the perspective of a hypothetical seller who is simply completely ignorant about anything related to card collecting, grading, etc.  if ‘never peeled’ means ‘never permanently stuck’ and ‘minor edgewear’ is meant for the sticker alone, then this seller is at the very least oblivious to the basic notion that the condition of the entire card matters, not just the removable sticker part.  And FWIW, the condition of the Secrets sticker alone isn’t all that great either.  Above all, the $17 minimum bid classifies this seller as delusional no matter how much grace one might wish to extend.

I guess I’m nuts too for giving this way too much thought...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on January 16, 2023, 06:15:03 AM
Price gouging is one thing, but i think the total obliviousness about grade and terminology mean this person is ignorant/naïve. You would think he/she could check other auctions to make sure their asking price is within the market range…..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on January 16, 2023, 08:35:16 AM
Price gouging is one thing, but i think the total obliviousness about grade and terminology mean this person is ignorant/naïve. You would think he/she could check other auctions to make sure their asking price is within the market range…..
Yes, clearly no attempt was made to self-educate whatsoever on this category of collectibles.  It kind of reminds me of the long period from early 80’s to late 90’s when I never thought I would never again see any non-reprinted titles.  At some point in the early 80’s I found a small metal box with a Bathless Ribbons and Mare Cigarettes stuck inside the lid - I carefully peeled them off, got them off in one piece albeit with some edge damage, applied them to a blank card, had to store them under pressure in a heavy book to flatten them and make them adhere, etc., and for years I valued them because they were all I had.  Now it’s just sort of a pathetic memory.  The sense I get is that in a similar way, this seller thinks they’ve stumbled onto something rare, one-of-a-kind, etc.  The main difference is that I was operating with blinders on in the 80’s - no Internet, no knowledge of The Wrapper, card shows, etc.  This seller has none of those obstacles.  Google WPs and there’s everything you could ever want to know.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on January 21, 2023, 05:23:16 PM
Here is another BARGAIN for us Wacky fans  :-\

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125730909652?hash=item1d46256dd4:g:-vgAAOSwTE5jzF7s
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on January 21, 2023, 08:40:39 PM
I dont see amy copyrights, so it looks like half of those are re-stuck….Yikes!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on January 22, 2023, 06:56:48 AM
I dont see amy copyrights, so it looks like half of those are re-stuck….Yikes!

They're just borderless. I never knew kids did that, but apparently it was quite common.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 22, 2023, 07:52:18 AM
They're just borderless. I never knew kids did that, but apparently it was quite common.
I peeled and stuck wackys all over the place but never did I strip off the borders and keep them like that.  No idea what the appeal would be to strip off the borders.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 22, 2023, 09:26:21 AM
I peeled and stuck wackys all over the place but never did I strip off the borders and keep them like that.  No idea what the appeal would be to strip off the borders.

To get rid of the copyright, I assume.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 22, 2023, 02:43:04 PM
I remember doing that to one and thought it looked cool. I'm glad that I stopped at one.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on January 23, 2023, 12:18:31 AM
I peeled and stuck wackys all over the place but never did I strip off the borders and keep them like that.  No idea what the appeal would be to strip off the borders.

I originally created a "book" of wackys, with the stickers botch-taped to loose leaf notebook paper.   Later I decided they would be more desirable in their original "free range" form, and was horrified that the tape residue tore some of the borders while trying to remove them from the loose leaf paper.   So, removing the borders became "necessary" for aesthetic purposes....ouch.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 24, 2023, 07:20:10 PM
Dennis,

I am so glad you did not lick and stick your Ratz and Cracked Animals 1967 Cards!!!!
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 25, 2023, 12:56:03 PM
Dennis,

I am so glad you did not lick and stick your Ratz and Cracked Animals 1967 Cards!!!!
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Richard
#StayWacky

If I'd had them in 1967, when I was only 3, I probably would have.  I remember my dad giving me a wallet when I was about 4 or 5, and I trimmed some of my football cards to fit in the plastic picture inserts.  One was a Joe Namath, but I don't think it was his rookie card. It was probably a 1969.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 29, 2023, 08:45:55 AM
Dennis - HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHHAHAHAAH

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 02, 2023, 07:55:04 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/125730909652?hash=item1d46256dd4:g:-vgAAOSwTE5jzF7s&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4FLXBgWeC3CmrZtcI5cFWI8ZNL8U6aoMxIxaLsLAKMTknLYO8cqkx6HDIjRuxfIXGG%2BMhRKSrl69NDEZWcDwN%2F6Q5hZF01F9Qdq%2BjwBtKy9MNZKI3s9w4jG4ZaTEZD57P6Nec2lVqMokhVx974vg6gVZ2Ecxn2UwqXnFWhhPCoyJ%2F9LM0ELD%2FgG7dv1%2BLXUe5fEiJYlD4sEhD4j5m24nVPFCiLthfpFfGb0hvRRuwr7qLAt2kd7BnmRcrNIDfbvaGzbPyiIuycLvu9Rb9tkChCuu5WHpKMCtOKd%2FDfvXbWHL%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9ys26zCYQ

I would pay maybe 20 bucks for the lot to make magnets out of them
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 02, 2023, 09:04:36 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/125730909652?hash=item1d46256dd4:g:-vgAAOSwTE5jzF7s&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4FLXBgWeC3CmrZtcI5cFWI8ZNL8U6aoMxIxaLsLAKMTknLYO8cqkx6HDIjRuxfIXGG%2BMhRKSrl69NDEZWcDwN%2F6Q5hZF01F9Qdq%2BjwBtKy9MNZKI3s9w4jG4ZaTEZD57P6Nec2lVqMokhVx974vg6gVZ2Ecxn2UwqXnFWhhPCoyJ%2F9LM0ELD%2FgG7dv1%2BLXUe5fEiJYlD4sEhD4j5m24nVPFCiLthfpFfGb0hvRRuwr7qLAt2kd7BnmRcrNIDfbvaGzbPyiIuycLvu9Rb9tkChCuu5WHpKMCtOKd%2FDfvXbWHL%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9ys26zCYQ

I would pay maybe 20 bucks for the lot to make magnets out of them

As an 8 year old in 1973, I collected the stickers only.  I never stuck them.  I wish I kept the wrappers and boxes as I had no idea they would be worth anything decades later.... LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 10, 2023, 03:42:25 PM
At some point, just throw the fuckin thing out!


Jim


https://www.ebay.com/itm/334734175767?hash=item4defb62e17:g:6qoAAOSwlCZjelGN&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoMumZ53iMUJLhGanW8xQF9nc98AiQN%2BzIoASRDIWn%2FFZ3aOtpEKrGBF0TwQZz54ALzuGzxxtoiB6Mbog%2FKGWj30PQCOdc7gX8i4k75lMQRaC10L7VVhTd%2F8jUIUNUyJHdBMcOvvDFRmw1R7beYV3pXmWIdvnRkqK5ygvqE%2B5hE9RfhR6D6OYADxyY3dvz%2FqPr5zelx5nNR1kYAnbO9CcCno%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6rOitvHYQ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 10, 2023, 04:25:23 PM
At some point, just throw the fuckin thing out!


Jim


https://www.ebay.com/itm/334734175767?hash=item4defb62e17:g:6qoAAOSwlCZjelGN&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoMumZ53iMUJLhGanW8xQF9nc98AiQN%2BzIoASRDIWn%2FFZ3aOtpEKrGBF0TwQZz54ALzuGzxxtoiB6Mbog%2FKGWj30PQCOdc7gX8i4k75lMQRaC10L7VVhTd%2F8jUIUNUyJHdBMcOvvDFRmw1R7beYV3pXmWIdvnRkqK5ygvqE%2B5hE9RfhR6D6OYADxyY3dvz%2FqPr5zelx5nNR1kYAnbO9CcCno%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6rOitvHYQ

Even at that low price, you'd have to be half-Crocked to buy it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 10, 2023, 08:36:30 PM
I'm sure that the seller uses the same description for all listings, but it's really comical for this one

Condition: Used
“Sticker as Pictured. I'm not a grading expert, no guarantee card will grade well.”
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on February 10, 2023, 09:16:28 PM
I'm sure that the seller uses the same description for all listings, but it's really comical for this one

Condition: Used
“Sticker as Pictured. I'm not a grading expert, no guarantee card will grade well.”

Made me think of an advertisement I saw on TV the other day for a pound of Morgan Silver Dollars....in big font on the screen it said "Collector Grade!!!"

Yeh....."AG-3" is technically a "collector grade".    :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 19, 2023, 04:24:50 AM
Factory sealed 1986 set????  So the factory took a team bag, sealed it, and then put a piece of tape over it?  Really???  I guess coolmccool has a factory that does this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115709850969
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 19, 2023, 07:49:30 AM
I guess coolmccool has a factory that does this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115709850969
Well, sure! 'cause he's coolmccool!! Also, how many f--king pictures of a little stack of cards are needed?  :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on February 24, 2023, 06:31:37 PM
Dennis,

At least they did use a shrink wrap machine on it!!

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on March 29, 2023, 10:02:44 AM
Not sure if this is nuts or not….seller asking $675 for all monthly sets from 2021…All sets are still in boxes, so could chaser items make these sets worth this?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 29, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Not sure if this is nuts or not….seller asking $675 for all monthly sets from 2021…All sets are still in boxes, so could chaser items make these sets worth this?

Or did the seller remove the chasers and reseal the sets? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 12, 2023, 12:26:18 AM
Or did the seller remove the chasers and reseal the sets?

I would expect them to be just base sets. At 60 bucks a set with goodies, I guess the out of print 12 base sets at that price while high, its not out of the ballpark. $2.81 a card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 22, 2023, 04:44:13 PM
What kind of shit-fakery is this?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/166045504392?hash=item26a9155388:g:UE4AAOSwWv5kQ24y&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwDF1jQGuqynHXdt8Cc7psFgFEgpVKRnAYm3XbwWNN16lY3oiHuaIdlHhCLRvq6lKWYXnfglFlf%2B%2Fy1En6%2BYEGFWt6NzB7re18g1rNyAXesVM%2BUQJC17%2Fnw3MyxvJKnHc3kVbdWRvRoGwuiZFBzmeWUE9YfcWQB4qjZyqahF%2BPkp49rW7izsKiMKmd75YR%2B3T4vTvx9Z96xmyjGtRGIKIln1OkwSXFNubRi%2Frz5Tya%2FiDSsPo%2BxhC4Kskm%2B%2FO0XnkIQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4aNwbX1YQ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on April 23, 2023, 09:25:30 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lcummins on April 24, 2023, 10:03:25 AM
What kind of shit-fakery is this?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/166045504392?hash=item26a9155388:g:UE4AAOSwWv5kQ24y&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwDF1jQGuqynHXdt8Cc7psFgFEgpVKRnAYm3XbwWNN16lY3oiHuaIdlHhCLRvq6lKWYXnfglFlf%2B%2Fy1En6%2BYEGFWt6NzB7re18g1rNyAXesVM%2BUQJC17%2Fnw3MyxvJKnHc3kVbdWRvRoGwuiZFBzmeWUE9YfcWQB4qjZyqahF%2BPkp49rW7izsKiMKmd75YR%2B3T4vTvx9Z96xmyjGtRGIKIln1OkwSXFNubRi%2Frz5Tya%2FiDSsPo%2BxhC4Kskm%2B%2FO0XnkIQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4aNwbX1YQ

I must be missing something... what about this is fake?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on April 24, 2023, 11:26:55 AM
And a brand new one for your enjoyment. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364230834393?hash=item54cdd978d9:g:NcgAAOSwT-9kRgdT
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 24, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
And a brand new one for your enjoyment. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364230834393?hash=item54cdd978d9:g:NcgAAOSwT-9kRgdT

And it's been discounted down from $95.99!

This never ceases to amaze me.  This particular seller has been on eBay for almost 22 years, sold 36K items, and has 13,200 items currently listed.  Can't s/he do a little research to see what's a reasonable price for this?  It's no wonder those self-help-get-rich-quick charlatans on TV keep making those infomercials.  Maybe someone will actually buy this at a 28.8% discount.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 24, 2023, 12:03:55 PM
I must be missing something... what about this is fake?

2023 base sets didn't come packaged in a plastic box like this.  It looks like they used one that Topps sent with something else and just stuck the Topps seal around it to make it look like it was a sealed box.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lcummins on April 24, 2023, 02:59:29 PM
2023 base sets didn't come packaged in a plastic box like this.  It looks like they used one that Topps sent with something else and just stuck the Topps seal around it to make it look like it was a sealed box.

I didn’t even pay attention to that… I just assumed they repackaged in the box, but never considered they might be trying to make people think it came that way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 24, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
That's why I called it shit-fakery, it gives the impression. Not a good look.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 25, 2023, 04:16:10 AM
Agree, although with the crappy colation of “first wave” $100 isnt horrible for a set. The re-packaging seems dishonest, especially putting the Topps tape on it to make it look like a sealed box…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 25, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
Agree, although with the crappy colation of “first wave” $100 isnt horrible for a set.

Look around, you should be able to find one in the $60 price range, which is only a little over $1 per sticker.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 27, 2023, 07:58:34 AM
Most complete sets i have seen on E-Bay are more in the $80-90 range. Even at that price, i might just go the aftermarket route. It sounds like some people spent serious money chasing sets and chaser cards….
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on April 27, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
I have been asking $70 shipped, or $80 with both boxes, shipped priority.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 05, 2023, 12:13:29 PM
New listing…Im not sure if the seller is nuts or the market is nuts….Complete set of 16th Series plus puzzle listed at $4,000. ($3,999.99) Says higher grade. that sounds about $1,500 too high IMHO…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 05, 2023, 01:42:13 PM
It has best offer option. Seller might well accept $2500-3000. A little high maybe, I wouldn’t call it nuts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 10, 2023, 03:42:28 AM
This isn't the only gem this asshole has listed


https://www.ebay.com/itm/394617351230?hash=item5be106ec3e:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwF1jH7OcbsL8xV3pivgVlmB5JyN4qWdPW9Bem0Vc4OBw4KHId%2B55ZZjfSIySWmg3PnZtVx06ZRBU%2FRx2D8IZ9cG%2B2AOohBoh07Wryy3RiD%2BrcvcG9Eggkr6UZmgCnXUwMS8sYHEE5e0b9n7Sb353m3bVStSmQC7V07YDICaq4Y9t0HtItVPp34ziYufuxE3Jjeoh%2BkfWfwgo7b0b3P7GuBh5nUXiec8g%2FC%2FjaHW6OCpRPSuTMCFtfL04J89ZNfwdUQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_y99tOAYg
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on May 10, 2023, 04:00:10 AM
This isn't the only gem this asshole has listed


https://www.ebay.com/itm/394617351230?hash=item5be106ec3e:g:GA0AAOSwmthjoX~o&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwF1jH7OcbsL8xV3pivgVlmB5JyN4qWdPW9Bem0Vc4OBw4KHId%2B55ZZjfSIySWmg3PnZtVx06ZRBU%2FRx2D8IZ9cG%2B2AOohBoh07Wryy3RiD%2BrcvcG9Eggkr6UZmgCnXUwMS8sYHEE5e0b9n7Sb353m3bVStSmQC7V07YDICaq4Y9t0HtItVPp34ziYufuxE3Jjeoh%2BkfWfwgo7b0b3P7GuBh5nUXiec8g%2FC%2FjaHW6OCpRPSuTMCFtfL04J89ZNfwdUQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_y99tOAYg

But it's only "minor edgewear"!  You mean you can see other flaws?   >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on May 10, 2023, 04:15:12 AM
But it's only "minor edgewear"!  You mean you can see other flaws?   >(

I believe that the "minor edgewear" was a typo on behalf of the person who listed this item. It was supposed to read "miner edgewear", as this sticker has obviously been used to hack coal from a mine. Regarding any other flaws, I think it's safe to assume that the seller pulled a Sgt. Schultz, here... "I see nothing.... NOTHING!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 12, 2023, 08:30:23 AM
This isn't the only gem this asshole has listed


https://www.ebay.com/itm/394617351230

It's also listed as a Never Peeled Sticker!!! (with three exclamation points for emphasis).  I wonder what explanation is given for why the sticker doesn't fit the border behind it.  I'm surprised it isn't listed as a "Rare Error!!!" for this reason.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 13, 2023, 08:29:35 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225574085019?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FPMpGeHsSZC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=eF4544COSP2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I Dont think this is nuts. Its really cool. I just dont have a spare $10,000…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 14, 2023, 02:23:40 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225574085019?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FPMpGeHsSZC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=eF4544COSP2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I Dont think this is nuts. Its really cool. I just dont have a spare $10,000…

My statue!!  I was told it had two "brothers" but this is the first I have seen of them.  I agree, it is very cool.  Very fragile, too.  And an impossible dust magnet that needs to be behind glass!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on May 14, 2023, 11:33:44 AM
Would I like this unique piece - yes - 10K ..... :-\ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 14, 2023, 12:39:41 PM
Were those the statues done by Mark Alfrey?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 14, 2023, 02:34:40 PM
Were those the statues done by Mark Alfrey?

Yes, they were.  He did a beautiful job!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 14, 2023, 03:57:00 PM
Well if their MSRP was going to be $9,995….i can see why they halted production.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 14, 2023, 04:23:11 PM
Well if their MSRP was going to be $9,995….i can no see why they halted production.

I think these were prototypes for vinyls Topps never made.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 14, 2023, 05:39:18 PM
I wonder what their production costs would have been. I bet people on here would have paid $60-100 for the statues…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on May 15, 2023, 03:43:40 AM
Was Dr Popper the only one that was made or were there others?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 15, 2023, 03:58:37 AM
Was Dr Popper the only one that was made or were there others?

Only popper was made.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 15, 2023, 04:04:41 AM
Well if their MSRP was going to be $9,995….i can see why they halted production.

No, they weren't supposed to retail for $9,995.  Mark Alfrey did the castings as prototypes for Topps, but the deal never worked out.  Here are some threads about it:
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=1563.msg34888#msg34888 (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=1563.msg34888#msg34888)
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=359.msg7930#msg7930 (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=359.msg7930#msg7930)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on May 15, 2023, 05:03:06 AM
Marcel and DC release statues and busts all the time, i suppose they have a big enough market to nake money on them. We really need more Wacky collectors…
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 23, 2023, 10:46:01 AM
This one's a sports card, but the seller claims this is exempt (strange choice of words) from major defects.  I suppose the stains, dinged corners, and jagged top edge are considered minor defects.  BTW it books for $1.50 in EX-NM and $4 in MT.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125848275128
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 23, 2023, 11:25:46 AM
This one's a sports card, but the seller claims this is exempt (strange choice of words) from major defects.  I suppose the stains, dinged corners, and jagged top edge are considered minor defects.  BTW it books for $1.50 in EX-NM and $4 in MT.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125848275128

LOL…I definitely like mine better!

(https://i.postimg.cc/J4jPqDJ1/IMG-3680.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 24, 2023, 10:38:00 AM
LOL…I definitely like mine better!

That one is nice.  I'm 7 cards away from completing my 1972 set - without series 6.  I've had a lot of mine since I was 8 years old, so most of them are EX.  I'm not quite as discriminating.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 24, 2023, 11:01:11 AM
That one is nice.  I'm 7 cards away from completing my 1972 set - without series 6.  I've had a lot of mine since I was 8 years old, so most of them are EX.  I'm not quite as discriminating.

That’s great! I am all over the 1972,1973 and 1974 sets. I will probably never complete them, but I love trying to maintain a consistent level of quality. Unfortunately, graded cards have very much dried up in the last few years, so progress has slowed considerably.

Which 7 do you still need?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 25, 2023, 07:57:50 AM
Which 7 do you still need?

I have a Billy Williams in the mail (not the one above), so here are the other six:
441 Thurman Munson - New York Yankees
534 Jim Hickman - Chicago Cubs (Yellow)
559 Pete Rose - Cincinnati Reds
568 Juan Marichal - San Francisco Giants IA
625 Rookie of the Year Award
626 Babe Ruth Award

I'm also considering adding the Traded Cards in the 6th series, of which I have all but three:
751 Steve Carlton - Philadelphia Phillies TR
753 Denny McLain - Oakland Athletics TR
754 Frank Robinson - Los Angeles Dodgers TR

I've seen all of them on eBay, but they're either creased or priced over the book value, and I hate paying too much for something more than I love having the entire set.  For me, the thrill is much more in the hunt and obtaining the bargain than being a completist.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 25, 2023, 08:08:50 AM
Do you collect them graded?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2023, 08:52:52 AM
I won’t bore you with a detailed exposition unless you want me to, but there is no yellow “variation” of Jim Hickman in the same sense as the four other Cubs color variations. It is a printing error that is shared with many of the other cards in the same sheet column. I can give you chapter and verse on this if you need convincing 😁
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2023, 09:44:56 AM
Do you collect them graded?

Did you mean Ono or me? 🤔
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 25, 2023, 09:54:39 AM
Did you mean Ono or me? 🤔

Ono, of course!!  I know you collect beautiful, graded examples!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2023, 10:13:58 AM
Ono, of course!!  I know you collect beautiful, graded examples!

I actually have a lot of nice ungraded baseball cards too. With the exception of 1972 all of my baseball sets contain both. With the size of these sets trying to get a million commons graded just doesn’t make financial sense anymore, if it ever did.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2023, 10:30:40 AM
I changed my mind, I will talk about Jim Hickman whether Doc cares or not! 😂

The Hickman card is in the same sheet column as cards like Don Sutton, Ollie Brown and Bob Locker. There appears to have been a run of this sheet that had some problem with the color yellow. Shown below are some examples of these cards, both the way they normally are, and as the result of this yellow error. The Ollie Brown especially shows green areas that the error renders as yellowish (the green oval surrounding his name).

I’m sure this is the cause of the Hickman “variation.” It is not a variation like the other four Cubs cards, which were set up as green by mistake, and then reset later. Rather, this is a production error.

Hickman:

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zZvzkW9/IMG-3688.jpg)

Sutton:

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NPfwG90/IMG-3691.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/15sRpXf6/IMG-3687.jpg)

Locker:

(https://i.postimg.cc/JhDR1B2w/IMG-3692.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/7ZQx8NXM/IMG-3686.jpg)

Brown:

(https://i.postimg.cc/mrvBh2vP/IMG-3689.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/5081zWJn/IMG-3690.jpg)

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 25, 2023, 12:35:30 PM
Ono, of course!!  I know you collect beautiful, graded examples!

No, I don't collect graded cards.  I have a few Wacky Ads that are 5s and 6s because they were all I could find in the large perforation at the time, and no one else bid on them, so I got them for about $5 each.  I also have a 2010 Sportkings Kerri Walsh 10 just because I wanted a 10 of something, and I run a beach volleyball web site, so it made sense.  I think I paid $10 for it years ago, and it's probably not worth much more now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on May 25, 2023, 12:37:59 PM
I changed my mind, I will talk about Jim Hickman whether Doc cares or not!

I didn't know the story behind the Hickman, only that I have the green version.  I did know about the other four Cubs from the 1st series, the Joe Niekro, and the 3rd-6th checklists variations, and I do have them.  Trading Card Database doesn't recognize the variations on Sutton, Brown, and Locker, and I didn't really see any differences in the ones you posted. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2023, 12:44:19 PM
I didn't know the story behind the Hickman, only that I have the green version.  I did know about the other four Cubs from the 1st series, and I do have them.  Trading Card Database doesn't recognize the variations on Sutton, Brown, and Locker, and I didn't really see any differences in the ones you posted.

I’m not suggesting the Sutton, Brown and Locker are variations. Just that they are from the same root cause as the Hickman, which is only considered a “variation” because it’s a Cubs card, and there are four legit Cubs variants. None of the cards I posted are variations, they are all just printing errors.

If you look closely at the ones I posted, you will see yellow bleeding, the grass is yellow tinged, etc. Look at the upper left of the Sutton and Locker, Sutton’s right leg, etc. They are all from the same sheet column and no other cards come like this. So you are free to seek a yellow Hickman, but I’m just telling you it is nothing more than a print error like the rest of these.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTy9DTrR/IMG-3693.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/V6TJ480M/IMG-3695.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on June 28, 2023, 03:25:51 PM
What a bargain!   You can buy from Topps for 20 or, if you hurry, you can buy from ebay for 40!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145161233618?hash=item21cc48a4d2:g:vHUAAOSw3XNknGqU&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0HG4WfaF0I53GoGvkCJPySdUCW5M5cIFf5iV%2BxyBA%2BcBx1uEBg7CH72cuikOiG%2Bgm3Kx39I9G%2FBoPeQaBnzy%2F2iAbKWoPlExtRDN8jFjEZRRm13t9KzGV98CEYYfAsD%2BxWeA4Xvv2dwTnTS2CVdeF33j8LUBLm1IBv%2Fd83BEbc2F%2B6k2RAjkUYPmyjAhaJZVajtVV%2FFgyoyJNDozKTkno3yGg14AH8ECuJpFxGXMYNfUKia4R5XF47X7RI%2FztICEnO0XG8b9vk8ozhODS8wi%2BVk%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7KRtcGgYg
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 27, 2023, 05:31:07 PM
Not wackys, but this is the nuttiest thing I’ve seen in awhile.

This card sold in a Heritage auction….it has a PSA 10 population of 8, and would usually sell for about $300-400. Meanwhile, I submitted mine and got a PSA 9, so including grading fees I paid around $10 for it.

$10 for my PSA 9 vs. $18,600 for this PSA 10.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fbD0vTnY/IMG-3811.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvfKzx1b/IMG-3812.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on July 27, 2023, 05:52:43 PM
And if you want it now, you can "make offer to owner" for $27,900 and possibly get it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 27, 2023, 05:56:06 PM
And if you want it now, you can "make offer to owner" for $27,900 and possibly get it.

I’m sure the offers are pouring in as we speak!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 27, 2023, 08:05:10 PM
This card sold in a Heritage auction….it has a PSA 10 population of 8, and would usually sell for about $300-400. Meanwhile, I submitted mine and got a PSA 9, so including grading fees I paid around $10 for it.

$10 for my PSA 9 vs. $18,600 for this PSA 10.

I saw someone asking on a forum the other day if he should buy a 1971 Ted Simmons PSA 9 Rookie Card for the $60K offer the seller made on eBay vs. the $63.75K asking price.  1971 Topps are notoriously hard to find well centered, but this card ungraded lists for $200 in NM.  The NM 9 population is 21, the latest selling price is just $4.4K, and PSA lists it as $3K. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/266052854981

Of course, someone replied, "what are you smoking to even consider it?"  I guess those with more money than sense will buy what they want.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 27, 2023, 08:55:26 PM
That seller of the Simmons card is notorious for his idiotic pricing. I never even look at his auctions.

And 21 9s is a pretty high population for this set.

I gave up on collecting the 1971 set. I have a few really perfect 9s that I hope to cash in on to support my other sets.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvZNLCXN/IMG-3808.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xq5C8sLz/IMG-3809.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on July 27, 2023, 11:52:54 PM

Of course, someone replied, "what are you smoking to even consider it?"  I guess those with more money than sense will buy what they want.

Amen to that.   Now that I'm in my retirement years, I probably could afford a grand for a Ratz or a Cracked Animals; there is just a sense in my being that refuses to pay 4 figures for a trading card.   I'm happy with my repros on those 2 titles!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 28, 2023, 03:32:05 AM
I gave up on collecting the 1971 set. I have a few really perfect 9s that I hope to cash in on to support my other sets.

I'm two cards (534 Jim Hickman yellow and 734 Frank Robinson Traded) away from finishing my 72 set.  Other than the traded cards, I'm not going to go after the 6th series; it's just too expensive at $5-12 for a common.  My next set would be the 71, but it would probably cost around $5K to complete it, so I'm thinking about moving to 71-72 basketball instead - less cards (233 vs. 752) but not not much cheaper (4K vs 5K).  It depends on whether I can get a good deal on a partial starter set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 28, 2023, 05:27:43 AM
I'm two cards (534 Jim Hickman yellow and 734 Frank Robinson Traded) away from finishing my 72 set.  Other than the traded cards, I'm not going to go after the 6th series; it's just too expensive at $5-12 for a common.  My next set would be the 71, but it would probably cost around $5K to complete it, so I'm thinking about moving to 71-72 basketball instead - less cards (233 vs. 752) but not not much cheaper (4K vs 5K).  It depends on whether I can get a good deal on a partial starter set.
I never could wrap my head around how some of these releases were done.  Low numbers / high numbers vs whole set at once, inclusion of a traded subset as opposed to none, were the traded cards mixed with regular packs or issued separately (I think I’ve seen some available boxed), and on and on.  Or were they a mail-away extra to a set?  I guess there’s a Benjamin guide or some book that explains it all...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 28, 2023, 05:58:14 AM
I never could wrap my head around how some of these releases were done.  Low numbers / high numbers vs whole set at once, inclusion of a traded subset as opposed to none, were the traded cards mixed with regular packs or issued separately (I think I’ve seen some available boxed), and on and on.  Or were they a mail-away extra to a set?  I guess there’s a Benjamin guide or some book that explains it all...

The cards were released one series at a time through 1973. After that, they were released all at once.

As for Traded cards:

1972: there were only seven cards, part of the regular final series of the set.

1974 and 1976: there was a separate traded set of 44 cards, but they were included within normal packs for at least part of the release

I believe starting in the 80s, Traded cards were handled differently, but I had stopped collecting by then so I’m not sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 28, 2023, 12:28:56 PM
The cards were released one series at a time through 1973. After that, they were released all at once.

The last series (high numbers) were always the hardest to find because they would come out so late in the season that the next sport had already piqued interest, and the kids would start buying those instead.  Many were probably returned to Topps and destroyed. 

The interesting thing about the series releases is that series 1 would have the series 2 checklist to give the buyers a preview of what cards would be in the next release.  So series 2 would have both the series 2 (with a number between 1 and 132) and series 3 checklist.  Consequently there were only 131 "new" cards instead of 132 on the 2nd sheet and so on.  In the 1972 set, it led to printing variations in the checklists between releases.

Traded and rookie sets started coming out separately in the 1980s, but I don't know the exact year - maybe around 1984 or 1985.  I believe they were sold as boxed sets and were never in the packs.  Sometime around that timeframe "rookie" cards became all the rage, so those sets were very popular and demanded high prices in coming years if a player in the set made it big.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 28, 2023, 12:42:11 PM

The interesting thing about the series releases is that series 1 would have the series 2 checklist to give the buyers a preview of what cards would be in the next release.  So series 2 would have both the series 2 (with a number between 1 and 132) and series 3 checklist.  Consequently there were only 131 "new" cards instead of 132 on the 2nd sheet and so on.  In the 1972 set, it led to printing variations in the checklists between releases.


Yes…and that is also why the 1972 set has 787 cards instead of 792 (6x132). Those last  five series checklists taking up a spot on the previous series’ sheet.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 28, 2023, 03:27:11 PM
Thanks for all the insights.  Becomes second nature when you collect these early Series I guess.  I only have a small batch of ‘71 thru ‘74 because of my older brothers dabbling in them.  I didn’t start collecting in earnest until the 1975 set, which was a little schizophrenic with those random color combinations.  I do have a bunch of the 1976 traded so I always assumed they were mixed in with the regular packs.  Had those catchy little newspaper headlines :”Yankees take a Gamble on Oscar.”  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 28, 2023, 04:25:21 PM
Ah yes…the classic “fro card.” 😂
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on July 28, 2023, 06:45:19 PM
I do have a bunch of the 1976 traded so I always assumed they were mixed in with the regular packs.  Had those catchy little newspaper headlines :”Yankees take a Gamble on Oscar.”  Great stuff.

That's the only headline I remember from the set.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 28, 2023, 09:13:10 PM
That's the only headline I remember from the set.
It was definitely the most memorable.  I vaguely remember one about ‘Mick the Quick’ Mickey Rivers, who came over from the Angels with Ed Figueroa.  Can’t remember who was sent to the Angels in exchange, but those two were key parts of the team’s success in late 70’s.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 29, 2023, 04:03:13 AM
It was definitely the most memorable.  I vaguely remember one about ‘Mick the Quick’ Mickey Rivers, who came over from the Angels with Ed Figueroa.  Can’t remember who was sent to the Angels in exchange, but those two were key parts of the team’s success in late 70’s.

Bobby Bonds
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BattleCaps on July 29, 2023, 12:10:19 PM

Traded and rookie sets started coming out separately in the 1980s, but I don't know the exact year - maybe around 1984 or 1985.  I believe they were sold as boxed sets and were never in the packs.  Sometime around that timeframe "rookie" cards became all the rage, so those sets were very popular and demanded high prices in coming years if a player in the set made it big.

Topps Traded Sets (in the box) started in 1981.

Fleer Update Sets started in 1984 (I passed on it at release because dealers wanted an obscene $30 for it)   :]

Donruss started their Rated Rookies sets after that, maybe in 86?



  It's crazy how much a card's value now is derived from being in a piece of plastic. Everything  beyond the mid 70's in baseball in in ample supply and what's really the difference between a 8, 9, or a Gem Mint 10 grade? Not much unless you need an ego boost in a registry set.

 
  At some point, the encapsulated market will crash by 50%+ 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 29, 2023, 12:10:52 PM
Bobby Bonds
That’s what I thought, but then I also thought Bonds was possibly on the NY roster into early ‘77 before being dealt.  Maybe it was someone else, maybe Kingman.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BattleCaps on July 29, 2023, 12:13:15 PM
It was definitely the most memorable.  I vaguely remember one about ‘Mick the Quick’ Mickey Rivers, who came over from the Angels with Ed Figueroa.


I liked how Mickey Rivers twirled his bat after he fouled off a pitch.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 29, 2023, 12:26:04 PM
Kingman was a Met until the 1977 trade deadline. He was then on three other teams in rapid succession, finishing the year with the Yanks (but ineligible for the playoffs). Then went to Cubs for ‘78.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 29, 2023, 12:37:23 PM

It's crazy how much a card's value now is derived from being in a piece of plastic.


I don’t want to start this up again, but the value is in the condition and knowing the card has not been doctored. Not the plastic.

Everything  beyond the mid 70's in baseball in in ample supply and what's really the difference between a 8, 9, or a Gem Mint 10 grade? Not much unless you need an ego boost in a registry set.

There is a big difference between 8 and 9, not so much between 9 and 10, which is why the Al Oliver price is ridic. But hey, if you’re happy with EX-MT cards, you should avoid PSA except for vintage mega stars…unless you’re OK with trimming, recoloring, etc.


At some point, the encapsulated market will crash by 50%+

Not for vintage. For modern, it already has in many cases.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 29, 2023, 01:48:37 PM
Kingman was a Met until the 1977 trade deadline. He was then on three other teams in rapid succession, finishing the year with the Yanks (but ineligible for the playoffs). Then went to Cubs for ‘78.
Looked it up, was probably Jim Wynn I got confused with Bonds.  Played in a handful of games in the first half, released mid-season.  Was picked up by Milwaukee for remainder of season but 1977 ended up being his final year.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 29, 2023, 01:55:29 PM
It is kind of strange that the Yankees traded the beloved Bobby Murcer for Bonds and then flipped him after only one season. And he had a good season for the Yankees in ‘75. Hit .270, 32 Homers, .888 OPS and 30 stolen bases. I guess they were trying to get younger, and Figueroa was good, but a bit of a puzzler.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 29, 2023, 02:15:00 PM
It is kind of strange that the Yankees traded the beloved Bobby Murcer for Bonds and then flipped him after only one season. And he had a good season for the Yankees in ‘75. Hit .270, 32 Homers, .888 OPS and 30 stolen bases. I guess they were trying to get younger, and Figueroa was good, but a bit of a puzzler.
And durable too, 145 games played.  I was not yet watching baseball consistently at 7-8 years old in 1975 so I don’t have any memories of Bonds, but can’t argue with the results, as Rivers and Figgy were cogs in three straight pennant-winning seasons to follow.

Felt bad for Murcer that the two championship seasons occurred while he played elsewhere.  Same for Oscar Gamble, another personal favorite of mine.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on July 30, 2023, 06:57:25 AM
Looked it up, was probably Jim Wynn I got confused with Bonds.  Played in a handful of games in the first half, released mid-season.  Was picked up by Milwaukee for remainder of season but 1977 ended up being his final year.
Didn't Jimmy wynn hit at home run his first at bat with the Yankees and it was like a decade til his next one?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on July 30, 2023, 07:48:53 AM
Didn't Jimmy wynn hit at home run his first at bat with the Yankees and it was like a decade til his next one?
Although he had a long career mainly with Houston starting in the early ‘60’s, he did have decent HR totals most years.  His lone stint with the Yankees came in his final year, so you’re probably thinking of someone else, like I did with Bonds.  When going that far back I’m probably relying more on memories of baseball CARDS rather than actual recollections of the season in question.

When I found out a few years ago that the inaugural 1977 season of Mel Allen’s ‘This Week in Baseball’ was going to be offered for sale on DVD, I eagerly snatched it up and binge-watched in a couple sessions.  There was a regular season play that I definitely remembered watching in my early youth.  Yankees yielded consecutive inside-the-park HRs in a blowout loss to Texas.  Something like that is so unique and improbable that it would not be easily and quickly forgotten.  So my memory is not totally shot just yet.

When you mention a notable HR followed by years of not hitting any, most fans probably think of Bucky Dent I would imagine.  That and Ozzie Smith’s 1985 HR putting St L into the Series are probably two of the best examples of light-hitting players having the most timely and impactful long balls imaginable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on July 31, 2023, 03:56:33 AM
Although he had a long career mainly with Houston starting in the early ‘60’s, he did have decent HR totals most years.  His lone stint with the Yankees came in his final year, so you’re probably thinking of someone else, like I did with Bonds.  When going that far back I’m probably relying more on memories of baseball CARDS rather than actual recollections of the season in question.

When I found out a few years ago that the inaugural 1977 season of Mel Allen’s ‘This Week in Baseball’ was going to be offered for sale on DVD, I eagerly snatched it up and binge-watched in a couple sessions.  There was a regular season play that I definitely remembered watching in my early youth.  Yankees yielded consecutive inside-the-park HRs in a blowout loss to Texas.  Something like that is so unique and improbable that it would not be easily and quickly forgotten.  So my memory is not totally shot just yet.

When you mention a notable HR followed by years of not hitting any, most fans probably think of Bucky Dent I would imagine.  That and Ozzie Smith’s 1985 HR putting St L into the Series are probably two of the best examples of light-hitting players having the most timely and impactful long balls imaginable.
It was definitely Jimmy wynn, he hit home run his first a bat with the Yankees, i as being sarcastic it wasn't years later but it was like a hundred at bats till he hit his next home run
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 08, 2023, 08:43:21 PM
I'm surprised someone hasn't chopped a piece of wood out of an old dresser trying to sell the sticker. I give up... and give you this


https://www.ebay.com/itm/256164203539?hash=item3ba4938c13:g:LpIAAOSwD31kx90w&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwGbWQeudXOs1d6eOWMIQy9J73qL0cS1bkwNFsBhUaY4iDRwXSW9fP%2B0mcd4JYnOVWNAdEvGPD9FQjLxuQQg81hSG1YwyXudooMtJ%2BsLaBl7StgKEjxSWKJwjQGIL5DCZT9n8R9WWY%2Fl8LX3RE99k23sMqE7FAU4JiWq9M7jrHiT%2Bna1vds5ZzavFMwYzHXLseIQfsNbXpUQNzwVyydJHROOrFsJiamfaQ6l0gfR1g4CXXrt8T2ImdkZcTZ73ZQPKsg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_ix-oW7Yg
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on August 13, 2023, 09:04:15 AM
AHHAHAHAHAGJHAGGGAHGHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGGAGAFAFAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA'

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on August 17, 2023, 03:27:16 PM
      You can't be serious...........https://www.ebay.com/itm/305077064878?hash=item47080294ae:g:sEQAAOSwoGhk3kjR&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4GolSyj2%2BFkp%2FP6QOjhS9LEsyl748WNZhMMOZXU05%2BQ0uvbb4MYx93kmk4%2By9rfjCzLNAeAVAHKgCXYFpXqCB3HWgwpkWPfqmbnu3cLnNdoNOFp9phr11L%2BG1YuysHmaaEH9UqrCc5g2%2BGMcoAHFohBBdf%2FzV6msOmkwCWLfL7pIDTEghCl32tDZt4VAhqa1oAUQod72%2B%2FeP4zMIoSQN9W8kmYKoO%2FOexkpnERDt9Em5%2FdnJxNvthKUSRVuiyv8MoyJNKKsuxCZaDqenaQ%2BE%2FIQkDUG%2FOfF2pVGvDiRrKY9%2F%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR968r9nAYg
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 17, 2023, 03:38:55 PM
Last sale was $510. But $200 is probably more reasonable. It’s one of the rarer number variations.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 18, 2023, 08:05:33 PM
Last sale was $510. But $200 is probably more reasonable. It’s one of the rarer number variations.
if someone really needs that number, then it is a good price.  other than that it is like Ludlows.  Same Front different variation
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 18, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
if someone really needs that number, then it is a good price.  other than that it is like Ludlows.  Same Front different variation
I hope he gets all those asking prices as I have all of these in very high grade just not graded yet. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on September 04, 2023, 11:05:54 AM
I love finding these things on Ebay. What were they thinking??

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354991140310?hash=item52a71eedd6:g:S4EAAOSwNr9k4teM&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKd3YhfdosZU0XehkRSkVY9VMexEf6Et9hdwWNqHt0xkBi6zrNJ5patvQkEK2mXsMrSPp%2FnJl2NZoTyVEe43WPdRUdM0Z3%2BOX21JatWIBsZF3r0hWWDgQpetAVgkE0cbERsWglgXXU48DttwXZ5NCCWHx4jKbcNQd1vIa3nAaCTBOlcd1oyzkR6U1ZeMqXM%2BW4bLFmiLymJJMLFy6wYrOS2xhjnVlWCrV7Xxm%2BkhB5zRE1QcM8UyjjmLqZudDhceLA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6agqJXMYg

Where as this person has a LOT of awesome things for sale. If only money was not hard to come by. Anyone know who this is?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?item=155753387019&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2562&_ssn=wman5001

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 04, 2023, 12:14:48 PM
I love finding these things on Ebay. What were they thinking??

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354991140310?hash=item52a71eedd6:g:S4EAAOSwNr9k4teM&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKd3YhfdosZU0XehkRSkVY9VMexEf6Et9hdwWNqHt0xkBi6zrNJ5patvQkEK2mXsMrSPp%2FnJl2NZoTyVEe43WPdRUdM0Z3%2BOX21JatWIBsZF3r0hWWDgQpetAVgkE0cbERsWglgXXU48DttwXZ5NCCWHx4jKbcNQd1vIa3nAaCTBOlcd1oyzkR6U1ZeMqXM%2BW4bLFmiLymJJMLFy6wYrOS2xhjnVlWCrV7Xxm%2BkhB5zRE1QcM8UyjjmLqZudDhceLA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6agqJXMYg
bet the person that bought one of these three is kicking themselves that they could have bought it for less than half the price in that auction you posted!

eBay auction: #115034362184
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on September 04, 2023, 03:59:06 PM
If there is no border you have a rare error card.  :o
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126078065998?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 05, 2023, 09:16:09 AM
If there is no border you have a rare error card.  :o
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126078065998?

You've really got to wonder if this person doesn't understand the whole 132 card sheet printing process. 

It reminds me of an argument I had with a seller over a 1st Tan Lavirus that was actually a Wonderbread.  I simply asked why the die cut would be different than a white back if the only reason tans existed was because they ran out of white sticker backing sheets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 20, 2023, 05:19:57 AM
3 ERROR stickers ANS5 Wacky Packages wrong number & 2 Numbers- from same sheet
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175909829805

Another person who doesn't understand the concept of miscutting from a 132-sticker sheet, and how it devalues stickers and cards opposed to coins or stamps that are quality controlled by a government agency and would make them more valuable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 20, 2023, 07:06:45 AM
3 ERROR stickers ANS5 Wacky Packages wrong number & 2 Numbers- from same sheet
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175909829805

Another person who doesn't understand the concept of miscutting from a 132-sticker sheet, and how it devalues stickers and cards opposed to coins or stamps that are quality controlled by a government agency and would make them more valuable.

I think this is simply a case of someone recognizing he pulled some error cards and offering them to people who collect errors.  He acknowledges that they are from the same sheet, and since they were all adjacent it is kind of neat.  Not $49 neat IMO, but neat.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on September 20, 2023, 02:27:01 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235216374992?hash=item36c3fd0cd0:g:h7kAAOSwlVtlC19Z&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABEOhUvD6untP2D%2Bi4Aikg7TF8xjDcCXAj5aO0%2Fd3w2524n7VDcx1jWWERjXruTahITHBOfF%2B%2B5qLibMrsxWCO%2BKCK%2FzHPL6Jp3RwUqMcWqNhp7kU9dAKK1cagXEIUXRP3eqJzifPPj7pa9%2FmWDTbyunomD5MxZQwplhFsFKtRKvshulk8MJ5jjO%2BOJdaOVrLA97PZUHh5HdMQE5d1GaBKVlVxXcak67YUgzBNPOg9NXiXmQk4L0bEwThMlan5mvsZHFi%2BaVYKciKCAANKqD9UdE4oJUS3hUg5CwZd1uqM2znOSFqBWFxf9FHXysWzsxHtKKrSr4xpwsCgAHrvIAmL7sZH2tzXBijWv81dIY2%2Bp702%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_zAusfWYg

Graded sketch cards?!?  Seriously?  $400?!?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 20, 2023, 05:06:22 PM
Graded sketch cards?!?  Seriously?  $400?!?

I guess we know for sure that Nibert actually drew it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 24, 2023, 08:49:32 AM
Good luck with that 🙄

eBay auction: #235216089978
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 24, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Good luck with that 🙄

eBay auction: #235216089978

SGC even misnamed the set!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 26, 2023, 09:48:38 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwfCzb4g/IMG-7217.png)
Yikes!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 26, 2023, 01:12:49 PM
Yikes!

How come your heart icon isn't blacked in?  Aren't you watching this one with bated breath?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on September 26, 2023, 01:57:10 PM
Its not even a full box! Its a bonus box!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on September 26, 2023, 04:30:54 PM
How come your heart icon isn't blacked in?  Aren't you watching this one with bated breath?

Is it ‘bated’ or ‘baited’?  I’ve always thought the latter was the correct spelling but I’ve seen several instances lately where the ‘i’ was left out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 26, 2023, 04:35:06 PM
Is it ‘bated’ or ‘baited’?  I’ve always thought the latter was the correct spelling but I’ve seen several instances lately where the ‘i’ was left out.

I believe in this case it is “bated”. A lovely homophone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on September 26, 2023, 05:38:13 PM
I believe in this case it is “bated”. A lovely homophone.
"Bated breath" is right.

In fact there's a old joke that goes like this:

Q: How does a cat catch a mouse?
A: He eats a piece of cheese, then waits at the mouse hole with baited breath.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on September 26, 2023, 10:04:13 PM
Is it ‘bated’ or ‘baited’?  I’ve always thought the latter was the correct spelling but I’ve seen several instances lately where the ‘i’ was left out.

For all intensive purposes, your being to pacific on supposably irregardless grammer, but its more as likely a mute point.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on September 27, 2023, 10:11:05 AM
I believe in this case it is “bated”. A lovely homophone.

Correct.  With the "i" it could have two possible meanings: to deliberately annoy or to prepare a trap.  Without the "i" it means anxiously awaiting.

Its not even a full box! Its a bonus box!

What could be better, it's a box with a bonus like those "baited" (with the "i") commercials say "but wait there's more!"

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mikecho on September 27, 2023, 10:54:59 AM
Correct.  With the "i" it could have two possible meanings: to deliberately annoy or to prepare a trap.  Without the "i" it means anxiously awaiting.

What could be better, it's a box with a bonus like those "baited" (with the "i") commercials say "but wait there's more!"
Or "But/'Cause/And that's not all!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 24, 2023, 05:47:51 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314890224984?hash=item4950eb8558:g:KwUAAOSwvy5lEdZI&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwE1eo8il7ql%2BLAv9ME4oQLscDYlJ7jXzWGT2h670tPe7Qg%2FiSK8n0w455Fl%2FcKUWBqf%2FvrY3xIUVNcw4iXGJH5o2i7tJYeAopoqCqn38mQSA1aDUEQ0FnXRn%2BDK48E0lf9my%2BhAMeeqqNeEDSqmQ9DYAEpd3zVMo6PN7u9pRoIoYjZ2h%2FmnCnQGjxrDj7kfsE5IiUlGsHC7de66aHAYCsGAT3VVWBNMF96vb4hdAmX10nomzVV99GxXgkr2F7%2Boluw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9zy5PXrYg

At least they are taking best offers!!


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 24, 2023, 06:07:57 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314890224984

At least they are taking best offers!!

Why wouldn't it be worth $150.  The description says it all:

Excellent condition rare, a must have! If you go and have it graded it will receive a extremely high grade
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 24, 2023, 08:57:44 PM
Why wouldn't it be worth $150.  The description says it all:

Excellent condition rare, a must have! If you go and have it graded it will receive a extremely high grade

At least you have it guaranteed in writing.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on October 25, 2023, 06:59:20 AM
At least you have it guaranteed in writing.......

True, but obviously the seller knows little about grading to call it "Excellent" and expect an extremely high grade.  I believe Excellent is a PSA 5.  I would call that a mediocre grade.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on October 25, 2023, 12:03:13 PM
That card would only grade a pr-1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on November 26, 2023, 07:54:12 PM
Currently a single pack of Series 1 Re-issues…for $59 starting bid…on e-bay…enjoy! Also featured tonight…10 random stickers from First Series Re/Issues….$75!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on December 01, 2023, 01:18:55 PM
Are these beach towels from the mid-ANS days really this rare?   

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175377333305


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 01, 2023, 01:29:04 PM
I saw that about an hour ago!  I don't think so, but if they will sell for $221 apiece, count me in!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 07, 2023, 01:30:33 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204560545749

Doesn’t this price seem a bit ridiculous??
Thought I’d complete this set at some point but I simply don’t feel like that’s reasonable at all for that card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 07, 2023, 05:16:26 AM
That card looks to be in pretty nice shape, and Skimpy #15 is a tough variation.  $334 seems fair to me, maybe a bit high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 07, 2023, 06:16:57 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204560545749

Doesn’t this price seem a bit ridiculous??
Thought I’d complete this set at some point but I simply don’t feel like that’s reasonable at all for that card.

I guess it depends on how much people value condition. I would sooner pay $1500 for Pat’s PSA 8 (which is very nice) than $335 for this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 07, 2023, 06:34:09 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204560545749

Doesn’t this price seem a bit ridiculous??
Thought I’d complete this set at some point but I simply don’t feel like that’s reasonable at all for that card.
only 2 bidders north of $167.  Doesn't this seller use PSA?  Any time someone known to get stuff graded lists raw material, clearly it won't get PSA8 or above so the folks bidding $300 plus are probably being irrational here.  Interestingly, all these rare number variations are coming out of the woodwork from various sellers who seemed to be sitting on some.  #21 MAddies, #23 6up tend to be highly sought.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 07, 2023, 08:22:35 AM
only 2 bidders north of $167.  Doesn't this seller use PSA?  Any time someone known to get stuff graded lists raw material, clearly it won't get PSA8 or above so the folks bidding $300 plus are probably being irrational here.  Interestingly, all these rare number variations are coming out of the woodwork from various sellers who seemed to be sitting on some.  #21 MAddies, #23 6up tend to be highly sought.

Exactly it. I would assume this would (maybe) get a PSA 6. It visibly has blemishes on the front and the one blemish on the back that the seller made note of. The edges also don’t look very clean. I would have been willing to pay half of what it sold for maximum, only because it seemingly doesn’t have border creases or popped perforations.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on December 07, 2023, 01:55:34 PM
I would assume this would (maybe) get a PSA 6.

But it's well centered, shouldn't that at least guarantee a 9.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 07, 2023, 03:57:30 PM
But it's well centered, shouldn't that at least guarantee a 9.  ;D

Guess it depends how much money is on the line
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on December 08, 2023, 12:14:49 AM
Guess it depends how much money is on the line

Is that a "center field 9"?    (Been dealing some craps tonight.)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 08, 2023, 07:07:01 PM
But it's well centered, shouldn't that at least guarantee a 9.  ;D
...and then there is the theory that "who" is submitting the card impacts the grade.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 11, 2024, 06:24:34 PM
This is...is...is...just is...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166539931305?hash=item26c68daea9:g:veAAAOSwTaZlbOTG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwMAWHMpFAfL2KglJiMbeiNX%2BN3r7D7J4UrSUIgwFrxdS73VYW%2FSK0bb5cCRTMMGGuS4UcWC1cBNx29%2BZqlcSLOBL%2FnL82pXfxaATZXEIYiPN5A1YY7oS3kGX6QcVBAXaX7xmFKEQqRu989kprFefduVKyF6TXg9OiuzFLT2p5I5kiARWx%2BTb3NpCwATJxuegET2ouZjb9oOVJ8rKUG9cYziWz%2BFt20FwotYC7cIVn%2FIGEDQijUysLIVeO4uAGyFmUw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5jpxrefYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 11, 2024, 08:09:07 PM
This is...is...is...just is...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166539931305?hash=item26c68daea9:g:veAAAOSwTaZlbOTG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwMAWHMpFAfL2KglJiMbeiNX%2BN3r7D7J4UrSUIgwFrxdS73VYW%2FSK0bb5cCRTMMGGuS4UcWC1cBNx29%2BZqlcSLOBL%2FnL82pXfxaATZXEIYiPN5A1YY7oS3kGX6QcVBAXaX7xmFKEQqRu989kprFefduVKyF6TXg9OiuzFLT2p5I5kiARWx%2BTb3NpCwATJxuegET2ouZjb9oOVJ8rKUG9cYziWz%2BFt20FwotYC7cIVn%2FIGEDQijUysLIVeO4uAGyFmUw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5jpxrefYw

But….it’s got whimsical imagery….that must count for something!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on January 11, 2024, 10:03:18 PM
   Lol, FREE SHIPPING!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on January 12, 2024, 03:38:01 AM
This is...is...is...just is...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166539931305?hash=item26c68daea9:g:veAAAOSwTaZlbOTG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwMAWHMpFAfL2KglJiMbeiNX%2BN3r7D7J4UrSUIgwFrxdS73VYW%2FSK0bb5cCRTMMGGuS4UcWC1cBNx29%2BZqlcSLOBL%2FnL82pXfxaATZXEIYiPN5A1YY7oS3kGX6QcVBAXaX7xmFKEQqRu989kprFefduVKyF6TXg9OiuzFLT2p5I5kiARWx%2BTb3NpCwATJxuegET2ouZjb9oOVJ8rKUG9cYziWz%2BFt20FwotYC7cIVn%2FIGEDQijUysLIVeO4uAGyFmUw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5jpxrefYw

Nuts? Is that the word you were looking for?

Remember, this was one of the harder titles to get in this series, BITD.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on January 14, 2024, 10:40:22 AM
WHOA! Wait a minute - ALL OF YOU MISSED IT!!!!

FREE DIRT AND!!!! Poor Quality - I am going to snatch this beauty NOW!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAH

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 15, 2024, 04:23:04 AM
WHOA! Wait a minute - ALL OF YOU MISSED IT!!!!

FREE DIRT AND!!!! Poor Quality - I am going to snatch this beauty NOW!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAH

Richard
#StayWacky

Relisted!!  Per eBay, "Everyone deserves a second chance!"  Go for it, Richard!   8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on January 16, 2024, 10:39:01 AM
Zowya!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335212944681?hash=item4e0c3f9d29:i:335212944681&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABkBG9YjECa3xi1Li0hPvCif8%2BnJIRIySza7NZjo7TxnslLongZZT1JmHggjkVlWLLZf1LnDpn7dvV9975prC3LiUtl2a4RSrKAoiQkn2KUBf32H5GopQXfLdwhwHBQvS9KKyKQKWNpsc0gY0Ny6On8NLI9LhTDpgg835bdFe6sJbTas0G9KbKprxoVa2PAI9S41cX1kx3JpTV3fiOPAgCRHh27yzm%2F8U0EpZqqKh13KEyIxd0%2Br3XKFCT%2BOOpV5ZKdW59IiWxCzgS251vL6xPH38qOR4LPcPR4BrNm3iFfT2eJtk5ziALuzofhU%2FMJ8SHQaBsYQleMemNN7jhF0ubYNI%2F%2FCTSs5UGsueVyAyd4RqsbqMFo3nyj4L4iuSbX%2FVsaQntDr%2BrPAEMG%2B5RYs4jT10Zdwqh85sZ4g0eI0q%2B0dvUhof%2F4%2B97RizmLdwXJEZBXj4VBOaq0%2F2eRGxjiG4DvKIiWOqXpxXnJLXoFhOJtY17ZqklBqiBR%2FBvrhXTMB3AgeTgFNGGnm9zu5XzuOHu0Mo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-Ta97iiYw

and double yowza!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256379326805?hash=item3bb1661155:i:256379326805&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABcC2Td7Kay%2FHnZPHGRAm7hDmIysitSC0g6%2Bj%2B2ssIAvZAFjeXf9CpsWZB3DWvw4fuY8oJqL0nSQmZimKVVZyFmxHs0LvSDywnYNI7Gr5yXgZmIlqRzPGy8XUlKsQLbK7LGpSZk3rLcVifHkZekYGGS%2BqVh%2FW%2Fb6gmvDLTOLj8rCTtpnJm9sH6w5adJDUu1ZRqc5PCAlGSa%2Bq%2BUYAEn1WIJBgiGcEGBO3EBzVsZhCBNAn17XMdL4%2FNnXoM0eGiTkn0IUmmXA3VFubWLHZ%2FmGwGhFSwBUo5Mp2PJZZkddAUKxlzXHiv6ppP3kg9oKqBCsKYGqj7g85Fm73PB7vLzNTtW88X00nsqs9CRkHFP7KWD5gQM18EMMc%2Fh7DUAA4JWH52KhZF0Bfv955eEsYzFfnxWMLoILX15B2ARNPKG6KwqmkOzMZaT80T%2B%2BHc7xT1Gzj2YWyi3TEZERColY7RP1JDBsqupYJx7SIXW4JWtxRWeLep%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-Ta97iiYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on January 16, 2024, 10:41:02 AM
Triple Yahtzee!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256379326893?hash=item3bb16611ad:g:sTMAAOSw6J5lpsvd&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABcB8CJATvlE9KXS%2FUNZw3sEIiWdaUiplgXEq5%2FwYg3Jdp32gcCAiX71%2B8e9ByGho9CwmBBIm%2BqVTULBLpnJ040NO8jrq0HkKNxJl3T0z52QzFK%2FR5g05QIPLBmK2HqVAZl3KGQI5UinBqvdOPB1268oARrb1FJjFDnZwhAohVI12kmfselsXiLD9nZRoJiBh7ngbn9K8l2b2cl8qdcvGmpkWDmwsczbUWf3ohpQ4Az%2F04F5NszKZeH1yVizyXiyYZnHmkZKp24FZK7vAJCrlZtxr0sALHOtNqJX%2Fd0Hn5lP8xeMmesJpfWQwVI8Vug3vmmGvKo7zKtvYBygMNTGpyw880sHEcNViHxhkfeOYVece1MEdr7cE1OJ4GQuImC5BfCa9jRZVupEwoAiIlluIDsYOIQDKEridfZntW7wIy%2BPm7aRTuxVyEr3PuJxsllKvDeLSaiwm4eyZJiqWLgPqI9ROpEoenhe5NS%2FzXbqlmmYWo%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4aRkLmiYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 16, 2024, 10:46:50 AM
Wow, that is pretty sad especially coming from a place that knows Wacky's. I have purchased from that place many times. Not sure what the heck they are doing with these?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 16, 2024, 10:51:24 AM
Wow, that is pretty sad especially coming from a place that knows Wacky's. I have purchased from that place many times. Not sure what the heck they are doing with these?

I find those totally unapeeling.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Mr._Stubble on January 16, 2024, 11:00:57 AM
I find those totally unapeeling.

I agree with you half-way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 16, 2024, 12:58:59 PM
Wow, that is pretty sad especially coming from a place that knows Wacky's. I have purchased from that place many times. Not sure what the heck they are doing with these?

These three are consignments, and the seller might be the one giving a suggested price?  I've seen a lot of inconsistencies in their prices on the same items in sports cards with different grades.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 18, 2024, 06:07:40 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296122980629

Ugh, what is this?  Anyone know how close to real these reprints are?  This kind of stuff is bad for the hobby as it will eventually be resold as real.  I assume these are not wax and are just easily identifiable paper stock?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on January 18, 2024, 06:31:58 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296122980629

Ugh, what is this?  Anyone know how close to real these reprints are?  This kind of stuff is bad for the hobby as it will eventually be resold as real.  I assume these are not wax and are just easily identifiable paper stock?

This has been going on for a while in the non-sports world - there are all manner of non-sports wrappers being "reproduced" and typically sold for $7.99.  I would never buy one.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on January 18, 2024, 06:32:47 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296122980629

Ugh, what is this?  Anyone know how close to real these reprints are?  This kind of stuff is bad for the hobby as it will eventually be resold as real.  I assume these are not wax and are just easily identifiable paper stock?

Especially when they fold it, so it looks like it came with stickers/cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Corndog on January 18, 2024, 07:33:10 AM
Especially when they fold it, so it looks like it came with stickers/cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256054785911?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Gt-Gg8LTQCm&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=6RGwqHb3RKu&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Now is this real or a fake...?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 18, 2024, 10:10:04 AM
Now is this real or a fake...?
I'd say it's real, but there's no way to be certain...at least, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 28, 2024, 01:46:58 PM
https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/315111812521

Can anyone figure out why there are two top bidders on this?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 28, 2024, 06:48:09 PM
https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/315111812521

Can anyone figure out why there are two top bidders on this?

It looks like they both bid exactly the same amount at approximately the same time 28 Jan 2024 at 1:34:11pm PST.  One must have been milliseconds earlier than the other, and in the event of a tie, the first one in wins.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 29, 2024, 05:00:44 AM
It looks like they both bid exactly the same amount at approximately the same time 28 Jan 2024 at 1:34:11pm PST.  One must have been milliseconds earlier than the other, and in the event of a tie, the first one in wins.
I am one of the lead bidders and the lot was offered for me to buy so I bought it but what is really weird is that the action tab that I have access is linked to the other bidder.....This copy paste below is not me, I am not 3104 rated...

Bidder
Bid Amount   Bid Time   Action
Highest Bidder3***dFeedback Score (3104)   
C $8.88   
28 Jan 2024 at 1:34:11pm PST   
Leave feedback

More actions
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on January 30, 2024, 03:28:21 PM
I am one of the lead bidders and the lot was offered for me to buy so I bought it but what is really weird is that the action tab that I have access is linked to the other bidder

Ernie, you broke eBay. 

Maybe that's why my completed orders from 2021 are showing up again.  I always hide them after I receive them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 30, 2024, 03:49:07 PM
Ernie, you broke eBay. 

Maybe that's why my completed orders from 2021 are showing up again.  I always hide them after I receive them.
LOL, I hope I did!  Once I receive this lot, I am going to see if it actually allows me to leave feedback as that other buyer.  I forgot to call out when the auction first completed, I went into the listing and it said "determining winner of the lot".  It was sometime later that it declared I won the lot "all-must-revere-ggrant, you're the winner!" so perhaps literally me and someone else placed bids as the exact same second and the same bid.....and ebay isn't programmed for it.  I wonder if the other guy was also offered the lot....I did receive an "item shipped" notification. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on January 30, 2024, 05:16:14 PM
LOL, I hope I did!  Once I receive this lot, I am going to see if it actually allows me to leave feedback as that other buyer.  I forgot to call out when the auction first completed, I went into the listing and it said "determining winner of the lot".  It was sometime later that it declared I won the lot "all-must-revere-ggrant, you're the winner!" so perhaps literally me and someone else placed bids as the exact same second and the same bid.....and ebay isn't programmed for it.  I wonder if the other guy was also offered the lot....I did receive an "item shipped" notification.
Funniest user ID in eBay history.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on January 30, 2024, 05:32:55 PM
Funniest user ID in eBay history.

Early on, variations of "sniped_your_***" were in use. I thought it was funny; their victims likely did not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 30, 2024, 08:08:25 PM
Funniest user ID in eBay history.
greggie pooh has to update his libel of me on his website with my correct ebay address.  Now I just sit back and count the days of libel as he was already put on notice long ago.  We will finally see the first lawsuit in the wacky pack collector world.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 04, 2024, 08:00:47 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184381133946

I saw this auction and at first, I thought to myself, this idiot seller put the wrong picture for a 6th series pack and perhaps there is a  6th series display box included.  Then I looked at the auction and while my statement stands, the seller is an idiot, the intent was to sell some knock off nonsense and the seller presumed everyone knows that "wacky packages boxes" represents a set.  Then he rushes though his description again presuming everyone has any idea what he is talking about.  I guess his going through life never ever seeing something from any point of view but his own equals this, it makes perfect sense to him.....

and I guess wacky packages brand can be used by anyone for any purposes with no liability to Topps. Good to know.  I see all the auctions were ended at 3 am....night owl much.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on February 04, 2024, 12:02:22 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/3x15vzWp/IMG-7982.png) (https://postimg.cc/nXXP8R4c)
Just asking a question here. These people may or may not be nuts….Is a set of the posters, even with Toadal and Weakies,  worth $2,690?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Lavirus on February 05, 2024, 11:37:00 AM
Well, the 3 tough ones (Toadal, Cheapios, Weakies) are worth about $250 each? A a set of regular folded posters is, what, $1000? So this is probably $1000 too high.

I haven't followed those prices in a long time, though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 05, 2024, 11:59:21 AM
Well, the 3 tough ones (Toadal, Cheapios, Weakies) are worth about $250 each? A a set of regular folded posters is, what, $1000? So this is probably $1000 too high.

Posters are getting harder to find, but I think the demand for them is also very low these days.

It's been a while since I purchased the tough 3, but I think maybe $200 each instead of $250?  The Cheapios has a tape stain, so maybe it's worth even less.
As far as the set of 24, I think maybe $600 (around $25/poster)?  Also 22 of them have two sets of staple holes at the top - so maybe they're worth less for that?
The yellow wrapper is hard to find - maybe it's worth $100.  I'm looking for the Gold Rush gum version and would probably pay that much - but I tend to be a bargain hunter.
IFIRC, Dan tends to run a little high on his prices.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on February 05, 2024, 03:47:38 PM
I would like to have a set of posters…but that is way too rich for my blood.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 05, 2024, 06:55:21 PM
Posters are getting harder to find, but I think the demand for them is also very low these days.

It's been a while since I purchased the tough 3, but I think maybe $200 each instead of $250?  The Cheapios has a tape stain, so maybe it's worth even less.
As far as the set of 24, I think maybe $600 (around $25/poster)?  Also 22 of them have two sets of staple holes at the top - so maybe they're worth less for that?
The yellow wrapper is hard to find - maybe it's worth $100.  I'm looking for the Gold Rush gum version and would probably pay that much - but I tend to be a bargain hunter.
IFIRC, Dan tends to run a little high on his prices.
I think Dan's strategy is like mine, set a high price, take offers, settle off ebay as most of the time buyers of wacky packs are pretty easy to hunt down outside of ebay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on February 16, 2024, 12:53:21 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404802064465?itmmeta=01HPSTX5SZYXNE9CRGQE46XX5G&hash=item5e40155051:g:OtIAAOSwHHdlz7qJ
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: quas on February 16, 2024, 02:53:07 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404802064465?itmmeta=01HPSTX5SZYXNE9CRGQE46XX5G&hash=item5e40155051:g:OtIAAOSwHHdlz7qJ

They can't even get the year right.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 26, 2024, 08:50:07 AM
Not super crazy, but cutting some of the titles out of one of the fabric swatches and selling as "rare patches". Such care taken in the cutting too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364753478375?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=47704ce8f3f4443bbeb153b3ebb87339&bu=43188300665&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20240226073307&segname=11021 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/364753478375?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=47704ce8f3f4443bbeb153b3ebb87339&bu=43188300665&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20240226073307&segname=11021)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on February 26, 2024, 11:59:17 AM
Not super crazy, but cutting some of the titles out of one of the fabric swatches and selling as "rare patches". Such care taken in the cutting too.

That is pretty funny.  I wonder if they cut them out when they were a kid and using scissors was a skill they hadn't quite mastered yet.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2024, 11:21:39 AM
I don't consider Dan nuts as a person, but his prices tend to be, IMO. Isn't this at least 2-3 times what it's worth, given the condition?

eBay auction: #375285851067
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 01, 2024, 12:07:30 PM
I don't consider Dan nuts as a person, but his prices tend to be, IMO. Isn't this at least 2-3 times what it's worth, given the condition?

eBay auction: #375285851067
Also, no pics of the inside of the box.  Huge red flag there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 01, 2024, 02:46:38 PM
I don't consider Dan nuts as a person, but his prices tend to be, IMO. Isn't this at least 2-3 times what it's worth, given the condition?

eBay auction: #375285851067
e.g.  buying and flipping the 1st mail away poster, but now with a +$1000 to the price tag
even uses the same pics as the first auction

eBay auction: #266653475603
eBay auction: #375284248230
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 02, 2024, 05:35:25 AM
I don't consider Dan nuts as a person, but his prices tend to be, IMO. Isn't this at least 2-3 times what it's worth, given the condition?

eBay auction: #375285851067
I've tried to explain this before but seems it takes awhile to be absorbed....I think he does what I would do which is list stuff for over market price, taking offers and selling privately.  In some cases, impatient 'must have now' folks take the buy it nows.  He also does this to draw attention to his auctions in general which results in sales of other items.  I believe Dan has done like $28k in sales in the last couple of months so he is not struggling but I know your post wasn't a worry about that....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 02, 2024, 08:05:04 AM
I've tried to explain this before but seems it takes awhile to be absorbed....I think he does what I would do which is list stuff for over market price, taking offers and selling privately.
Honestly, I had forgotten about this aspect of his sales technique. However, if I didn't know who he was and the other "behind the scenes" reasoning, the really high pricing would scare me off, thinking we're too far apart to deal. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 02, 2024, 02:25:08 PM
thinking we're too far apart to deal. Just sayin.

This is how i feel. With outlandish prices i just walk away. Thinking i just don't want to deal like that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 04, 2024, 03:16:43 PM
This is how i feel. With outlandish prices i just walk away. Thinking i just don't want to deal like that.
That is good to know, less competition for buying.  I make offers no matter what, my feelings don't get hurt if they say no.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 04, 2024, 03:19:32 PM
Honestly, I had forgotten about this aspect of his sales technique. However, if I didn't know who he was and the other "behind the scenes" reasoning, the really high pricing would scare me off, thinking we're too far apart to deal. Just sayin.
Agree the poster price is really high but I hope it sells as I have all three with mailing tubes that someday I will part with.  I don't think your assessment on the 12th box is accurate.  I would buy that box in that condition for your "$80" fair price all day every day.....boxes are much harder to find than people give credit and they are some of the coolest visible items to collect.  I would never ever ever spend more money on an overpriced fabricated rare plastic super impulse item than an original series display box as a point of reference....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 04, 2024, 04:00:22 PM
I don't think your assessment on the 12th box is accurate.  I would buy that box in that condition for your "$80" fair price all day every day.
Ern, not sure where you came up with "my (your) $80" price for the 12th box. Dan has it listed for almost $500, I guessed it to be 2-3 times too high. My math shows that to come to $170-$250...though even that range seems high to me, as well.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 04, 2024, 05:31:14 PM
Ern, not sure where you came up with "my (your) $80" price for the 12th box. Dan has it listed for almost $500, I guessed it to be 2-3 times too high. My math shows that to come to $170-$250...though even that range seems high to me, as well.
Oh I saw it listed for $250 my bad.  $500 is definitely excessive.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 11, 2024, 10:05:47 PM
Not wacky, but related to our recent discussion of old coins and currency.   I laughed out loud when I saw this picture:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395112651234
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: roughwriter on March 12, 2024, 05:40:40 AM
It looks like someone tried to make change with it!  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 12, 2024, 10:55:07 AM
It looks like someone tried to make change with it!  ;D
Well, each half is worth a buck, right?  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 12, 2024, 02:24:57 PM
Not wacky, but related to our recent discussion of old coins and currency.   I laughed out loud when I saw this picture:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395112651234
Is there a market for those?  I think I have a bunch stashed away somewhere.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 12, 2024, 02:25:48 PM
Not wacky, but related to our recent discussion of old coins and currency.   I laughed out loud when I saw this picture:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/395112651234
that is in worse shape than the battered sand dollar we found on the beach in Florida
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 12, 2024, 04:49:15 PM
What bothers me is not the idiotic asking price, delusional morons like this are a dime a dozen, but the horrific excuse for a tape repair.  Looks like the taping on the butt end of a hockey stick.  This is arguably not even legal tender any more.  What a dope.

BTW, I’m told many major banks have plenty of $2’s in stock, crisp and there for the asking.  I’m sure it’s hit and miss, but I would suggest starting there if you want any $2’s.  I’d only go to eBay for an older red seal bill.  They were printed well before 1976.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on March 12, 2024, 08:42:18 PM
He has another one listed in better shape, but still $148 overpriced.

I always thought $2 bills were cool. I don't know why they're considered unlucky by some. Maybe it's linked to their association with the racetrack.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 12, 2024, 10:18:33 PM
Is there a market for those?  I think I have a bunch stashed away somewhere.

For 1976 and beyond, the two's that demand the highest prices are star notes, according to my Whitman Official Red Book (7th ed. c2020).  The 2003 A Atlanta(F) note that is featured in this auction is listed at $5 for UNC-63 grade.   I can't imagine the one pictured getting a grade above ONE.  Like someone joked earlier, I wonder if it's even worth $2.  :]  A 2003 A Atlanta star note, however, is priced at $120 for UNC-63 grade.   We're talking only 320,000 in circulation.   The only other star notes from 2003 A, the San Fran(L) ones, are slightly more quantity-wise(384,400), but for some reason they are priced a little higher at $150 for UNC-63 grade.

The highest price listed for a non-star note 1976 and beyond, UNC-63, is $35 for a 2003 St Louis(H), and next best is $25 for 2003 A San Fran(L).

Non-star notes from 1976 range from $9-$20 in UNC-63.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 12, 2024, 10:21:26 PM

I always thought $2 bills were cool. 

Me two!   Maybe 'cause they're the closest legit thing to the queer three dollar bill.    8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 12, 2024, 10:25:56 PM
I’m told many major banks have plenty of $2’s in stock, crisp and there for the asking.  I’m sure it’s hit and miss, but I would suggest starting there if you want any $2’s.   

Two's that are in current circulation include the following series:
1976
1995
2003
2003 A
2009
2013
2017 A
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 16, 2024, 09:31:54 AM
For 1976 and beyond, the two's that demand the highest prices are star notes, according to my Whitman Official Red Book (7th ed. c2020).  The 2003 A Atlanta(F) note that is featured in this auction is listed at $5 for UNC-63 grade.   I can't imagine the one pictured getting a grade above ONE.  Like someone joked earlier, I wonder if it's even worth $2.  :]  A 2003 A Atlanta star note, however, is priced at $120 for UNC-63 grade.   We're talking only 320,000 in circulation.   The only other star notes from 2003 A, the San Fran(L) ones, are slightly more quantity-wise(384,400), but for some reason they are priced a little higher at $150 for UNC-63 grade.

The highest price listed for a non-star note 1976 and beyond, UNC-63, is $35 for a 2003 St Louis(H), and next best is $25 for 2003 A San Fran(L).

Non-star notes from 1976 range from $9-$20 in UNC-63.
So I decided to go get some at the bank myself this week, and the teller had them on hand.  Not CU consecutive-numbered notes from a fresh stack like I was hoping, but minimal wear on most of them.  Exchanged a $20 for ten $2’s.  All 2013 except for one 1995.  The one surprise was that half of them were star notes.  So I’m thinking star notes must be common as dirt for 2013.  But why are there any in the first place?  Nobody uses the dang things.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 16, 2024, 09:34:39 AM
I’ve also never seen premium value assigned to a note originating from a particular federal reserve branch location.  Signature combinations and sometimes low serial numbers or weird sequences yes, but never the A through L designation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BattleCaps on March 16, 2024, 02:50:05 PM
  The local scrap yards here in the late 80's and early 90's used to pay out  in $2 bills for some reason. I was helping a contractor on a job and when he sold the scrap, he paid me all in $2 bills. I must have at least 50 somewhere, probably consecutive too.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on March 16, 2024, 03:37:04 PM
So I decided to go get some at the bank myself this week, and the teller had them on hand.  Not CU consecutive-numbered notes from a fresh stack like I was hoping, but minimal wear on most of them.  Exchanged a $20 for ten $2’s.  All 2013 except for one 1995.  The one surprise was that half of them were star notes.  So I’m thinking star notes must be common as dirt for 2013.  But why are there any in the first place?  Nobody uses the dang things.

Star notes are replacements for printing errors, not for bills worn from circulation. You can probably check online to see what kind of premium they carry, if any.

Fancy serial numbers are also fun. I once got $4 for a dollar bill beginning with four threes in a row, and values increase exponentially with each additional consecutive matching digit. Serial numbers that are eight-of-a-kind are highly in demand, and I've seen estimates of $15,000 for any bill numbered 00000001.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 16, 2024, 03:53:07 PM
I’ve also never seen premium value assigned to a note originating from a particular federal reserve branch location.  Signature combinations and sometimes low serial numbers or weird sequences yes, but never the A through L designation.

The different federal reserve banks sometimes have wildly different production numbers within a single series, which is why some are more worth than others.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 16, 2024, 03:59:57 PM
So I decided to go get some at the bank myself this week, and the teller had them on hand.  Not CU consecutive-numbered notes from a fresh stack like I was hoping, but minimal wear on most of them.  Exchanged a $20 for ten $2’s.  All 2013 except for one 1995.  The one surprise was that half of them were star notes.  So I’m thinking star notes must be common as dirt for 2013.  But why are there any in the first place?  Nobody uses the dang things.

Actually you lucked out because, as similar with 2003, the only star notes from 2013 come from Atlanta, San Fran, and New York.    Atlanta stars are listed at $45 in UNC63 condition, while NY and SF are both at $20.   If they're in nice, crisp condition, try 'em out on ebay and see what you can get!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MoldRush on March 16, 2024, 05:33:50 PM
Actually you lucked out because, as similar with 2003, the only star notes from 2013 come from Atlanta, San Fran, and New York.    Atlanta stars are listed at $45 in UNC63 condition, while NY and SF are both at $20.   If they're in nice, crisp condition, try 'em out on ebay and see what you can get!
I’ll have to get some more from the bank and see if the conditions are any better.  The ones I got are still close to new with no hard creases but definitely some signs of minor wear.  If only strict CU carries a premium, I’m probably not looking at any profit potential.  Truth be told my knowledge of currency is minimal in comparison to coins.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 17, 2024, 04:53:25 PM
What am I missing here?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386850566508?itmmeta=01HS7CZ44F304JRS1RTCEN10MX&hash=item5a1217316c:g:rYwAAOSwM2dl7yYg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4IZO1jgcfE0wBYCi3hX4KIs9i%2FZSnvV4r5%2B1N8%2Fd2%2B%2B1zl0CuMjmnO9B%2FPO2mRo7vQHa%2B9Xl510F345L6nJM5%2FZX5qRhGhQMcF00Ebh7GxLQGFB%2BlRbRulrzdIe0l%2B1RDXLk1gMlZrcWJ9G5BLhhrP8LITKuim7Xy84wlTNn05UPmrIdKCBRuyBgLF6p7q9MEOokto6nCMUJMk3TVIq3GZwNYBIWjkFiLptLYQrJVocfn8bo%2BREWzu35QkRZrmvxUnhm1pWfph6M9KErR4lFvXmLCDiXPaM2jXOjYn%2F1HOcv%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9LC_OzJYw


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 17, 2024, 05:51:00 PM
What am I missing here?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386850566508?itmmeta=01HS7CZ44F304JRS1RTCEN10MX&hash=item5a1217316c:g:rYwAAOSwM2dl7yYg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4IZO1jgcfE0wBYCi3hX4KIs9i%2FZSnvV4r5%2B1N8%2Fd2%2B%2B1zl0CuMjmnO9B%2FPO2mRo7vQHa%2B9Xl510F345L6nJM5%2FZX5qRhGhQMcF00Ebh7GxLQGFB%2BlRbRulrzdIe0l%2B1RDXLk1gMlZrcWJ9G5BLhhrP8LITKuim7Xy84wlTNn05UPmrIdKCBRuyBgLF6p7q9MEOokto6nCMUJMk3TVIq3GZwNYBIWjkFiLptLYQrJVocfn8bo%2BREWzu35QkRZrmvxUnhm1pWfph6M9KErR4lFvXmLCDiXPaM2jXOjYn%2F1HOcv%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9LC_OzJYw

You're missing the empty skull that would allow you to bid on this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 17, 2024, 06:02:36 PM
What am I missing here?
I’d say two possibilities: several idiots are in a bidding war or it’s a shill game. Maybe both.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 17, 2024, 07:54:13 PM
I’d say two possibilities: several idiots are in a bidding war or it’s a shill game. Maybe both.
35 bids?  Definitely a shill.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 17, 2024, 10:11:24 PM
35 bids?  Definitely a shill.....

"The cards were made in 1970 and include features such as a sticker design."


Sticker design is definitely a feature that merits attention.   I wish I had a dollar for everyone that said to me, "Oh yeh....wacky packages!   Now I remember!   That incredible sticker design!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 17, 2024, 11:16:05 PM

"The cards were made in 1970 and include features such as a sticker design."


Sticker design is definitely a feature that merits attention.   I wish I had a dollar for everyone that said to me, "Oh yeh....wacky packages!   Now I remember!   That incredible sticker design!"

Uggh. Some of these descriptions are as well-crafted as a 6th grader's creating a "word salad" to meet the 500 word quota for an essay! Part of me wants to give them a pass on their lack of knowledge about Wacky Packages, but I instantly retract that pass when they can easily retrieve all of the correct info with a few keystrokes and searches.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 18, 2024, 01:44:07 AM

"The cards were made in 1970 and include features such as a sticker design."


Sticker design is definitely a feature that merits attention.   I wish I had a dollar for everyone that said to me, "Oh yeh....wacky packages!   Now I remember!   That incredible sticker design!"

An A.I. written description?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on March 18, 2024, 04:41:39 AM
How would shill bidding work when there’s 35 bids? Two shill accounts bidding each other up?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 18, 2024, 10:34:32 AM
An A.I. written description?
First thing I thought of when reading it...gotta be. Too machine-like.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on March 18, 2024, 01:02:28 PM
First thing I thought of when reading it...gotta be. Too machine-like.

AI is sending phishing emails now too, but so far they're easy to identify because of the wording.  Our CFO got one the other day that appeared to be an email chain.  The 1st in the chain appeared to be sent from one of our admin assistants desiring to donate $25K to a charity.  The 2nd was the reply thanking her.  The 3rd was the reply giving the CFO's contact info for sending an invoice.  The last was the mail to the CFO. 

What tipped it off for me was the wording used:
Connecting with you has been a pleasure, and we've been deeply inspired by the impactful work your foundation carries out
We are committed to supporting your noble cause
every contribution matters, we wish to play a part in making a positive impact
We eagerly await your prompt response
Your unwavering interest and dedication
our heartfelt thanks go out to you and your organization for your unwavering commitment
Your partnership holds a special place in our regard, and we eagerly anticipate ongoing engagement
for swift processing
of payment
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on March 18, 2024, 02:20:24 PM
God help us!  I get enough phishing scams as it is!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 18, 2024, 09:51:20 PM
First thing I thought of when reading it...gotta be. Too machine-like.

artificial intelligence was my first thought as well.   but i just to had to razz it.   emphasis on artificial.    :]

sad state of affairs when someone can't take 5 to 10 minutes to write their own paragraph on something they are trying to sell.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 19, 2024, 07:51:06 PM
How would shill bidding work when there’s 35 bids? Two shill accounts bidding each other up?
you can see the bid history, the shill with the 177 feedback bid over 20 times continuously running up the bid but he screwed up as he ended up winning.  Why bid the day before the auction end as opposed to sniping it, because the intent was to run up the bids acting as a reserve bid.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 08, 2024, 01:58:02 PM
Listen, I'm short a couple of bucks and I really need this for my "forever" collection. Surely, I will pay you back next Tuesday.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235512561688?itmmeta=01HTZQN2MN21TCX5VP2B3V7RFF&hash=item36d5a48018:g:Hf0AAOSw5ItmFE62&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4N%2F40%2B5Z5ixa4RcjU%2FuHE8BVVmSBYVA4WzErqcijDwJki%2FWsYUKJdVCjCqhvRnry35s0kmWkwsR9hTTJRiEGa7qJiUGqV85ZzBg3DNf04Zvzu5eP1zW8N5eHlDL%2BXvOmFjZjCflXGwzhBmEHz48GVZk1jyUA735Y0geBNI9qq4EXvWu43kIFMMuImk9vttx1Wz4GnyFbdvP%2BtJ8GN8iEXxhLaNbfn9npPrDkevfiZvjZqIw2JkTbU5snfoAbMa7XfkpFODVYq5eVBSpMZYH5a2QEv3uPm0tKD7f%2FpSiR72GM%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7Kq1PfXYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 09, 2024, 08:31:56 AM
Listen, I'm short a couple of bucks and I really need this for my "forever" collection. Surely, I will pay you back next Tuesday.

Plus they want $4.99 to ship it!  In the condition it's in, why not just stick an address label and a stamp on the back of it and be done with it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on April 11, 2024, 09:56:19 AM
     EXCELLENT CONDITION:          https://www.ebay.com/itm/166707186187?itmmeta=01HV717MTCQHRM8A5DGYZ5YNTG&hash=item26d085ca0b:g:5YkAAOSwgodmFy24&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwACd%2FXt2VNBmyAR11s0PJuJsZ7rgUC4IstEx%2FfgILnZ1511PRJ6e1ncD3GTHIVoEhfD5WdW5boJ6xfGGN7q05HDF92Dj%2Bz00xiyu1o3atjMIoZX6AUfLq6IfTh0JdoiqY1msZGPu%2FCJe8u7edapRqtiBFvD%2FEXS3mvftHiGiwbE7%2FhlvqyP4yMBAXCADjoiJKtA9khrxkXKh9bGPONMKFNWI6b3YwRlSk32P7rCU9M4wmS8mE7IPuSh97e%2Fku%2Fj6nA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7zNnuHZYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Beanball on April 11, 2024, 10:50:36 AM
It's excellent for the garbage can  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: faustxxx on April 11, 2024, 11:18:28 AM
     It only has minor corner chew markings.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: drono on April 11, 2024, 12:24:54 PM
     EXCELLENT CONDITION:          https://www.ebay.com/itm/166707186187

According to eBay's definition of Excellent, and the seller's definition of moderate and fuzzy, I guess it fits.

Excellent
Has clearly visible signs of wear
Flaws may include:
Moderate surface scuffing
Fuzzy corners
Moderate edge chipping
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 11, 2024, 05:06:38 PM
I don't think Rat Shit is the same as fuzzy corners.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 11, 2024, 08:05:42 PM
Ive heard of “soft” or “rounded” corners, as opposed to sharp corners…but ive never heard of “fuzzy” corners….It is an inappropriate adjective…..maybe they mean “pulpy” corners….
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on April 12, 2024, 03:38:10 AM
Listen, I'm short a couple of bucks and I really need this for my "forever" collection. Surely, I will pay you back next Tuesday.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235512561688?itmmeta=01HTZQN2MN21TCX5VP2B3V7RFF&hash=item36d5a48018:g:Hf0AAOSw5ItmFE62&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4N%2F40%2B5Z5ixa4RcjU%2FuHE8BVVmSBYVA4WzErqcijDwJki%2FWsYUKJdVCjCqhvRnry35s0kmWkwsR9hTTJRiEGa7qJiUGqV85ZzBg3DNf04Zvzu5eP1zW8N5eHlDL%2BXvOmFjZjCflXGwzhBmEHz48GVZk1jyUA735Y0geBNI9qq4EXvWu43kIFMMuImk9vttx1Wz4GnyFbdvP%2BtJ8GN8iEXxhLaNbfn9npPrDkevfiZvjZqIw2JkTbU5snfoAbMa7XfkpFODVYq5eVBSpMZYH5a2QEv3uPm0tKD7f%2FpSiR72GM%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7Kq1PfXYw

This is actually in better shape than my old OS Lipoff. I found it on the ground walking home from school (no backing sheet).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: vahsurfer on April 12, 2024, 08:26:50 PM
EXCELLENT Termite Bites along the edges!!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on April 16, 2024, 08:00:04 PM
Why? Just why

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235524557993?itmmeta=01HVMZVR6BPBNK2357QH93GY88&hash=item36d65b8ca9:g:GxsAAOSwG9dmHv0M&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwNHUY4Zwgzkwq7HgCAVeV6V4DCtte5bCHb0nJzoo20bILO4bSvnqKBvEVAv8B3LW8KkucdI6QBHuXe%2FUs2cm0Cs%2Bd349e86mUYmQF8Ca0Y0hi3bHNiXOW6QiFRei9Q78ZpiyhHFZWu--Mwm0QaZTLzsePgac%2B2NLcNA5N4hPfOfwv96o5cGEV8jY60iyHdlX7M%2B4g7smikxXS8FrTZteSjdvEAHrq90Wk8tzyFw6bWlGpOKKAT36w9gorgk3FR4r9g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR56D75_dYw
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: JailOJohn on April 17, 2024, 05:21:14 PM
$8 including shipping…..for a card that should be thrown in the garbage…..