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Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ScaryLee on March 13, 2010, 01:43:55 PM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sealed-box-w-Lynch-sketch_W0QQitemZ310205095823

Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BaudLight on March 13, 2010, 09:31:58 PM
Maybe they are psychic and know that it contains a colored sketch card.   :D

BaudLight
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 13, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sealed-box-w-Lynch-sketch_W0QQitemZ310205095823


I wrote to that seller and asked if his box was any different than the ones Topps was selling and if he knew if Topps had them still for sale and he didn't answer my question.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 13, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
Hey I tried to focus on anything...but came up empty..............oh shake you up greg.....shake it baby now....
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plastered Peanut on March 13, 2010, 10:52:24 PM
Hey I tried to focus on anything...but came up empty..............oh shake you up greg.....shake it baby now....
25 or 6 to 4
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
What i find nuts is how cheap this stuff are going for,the sketch cards besides overshadowing the release really hurt the value of the series in my opinion.If you buy boxes and pull common sketchs all your other cards are not worth the price of crap from what i can see.The sketch cards should have only been available to the pre-orders of maybe 1500 boxes max.It would have put some balance into the release.
Flame on  ::)





Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 11:17:38 AM
What i find nuts is how cheap this stuff are going for,the sketch cards besides overshadowing the release really hurt the value of the series in my opinion.If you buy boxes and pull common sketchs all your other cards are not worth the price of crap from what i can see.The sketch cards should have only been available to the pre-orders of maybe 1500 boxes max.It would have put some balance into the release.
Flame on  ::)






With a box containing 2 full sets and extras for $40 or $50, I never assumed the sets would have huge value, how did you come to that conclusion and why is it important that the set be "worth" high $?  I felt it was important that they set be of quality, which it was.  I felt it important that we get value for our $, which we did since we get an awesome 5 x 7 trio, 2 complete base sets, a pile of extra stickers, a pile of checklists, logo card, promo card and sketch.  Just break it down, $10 per base set, $10 per trio set, a couple of bucks for the logo and promo cards...hell, the sketch costs us under $20...what's there to complain about?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
said this berfore,, being from canada and paying crazy high cost of shipping and ups fee's and then getting stiffed on the free poster i now have over $200 into 3 boxes,sure a rare card of jay's would have made it all worth while but we all can't pull a rabbit outa our ass,but a set of limited run cards should not drop below $20 IMO,,,selling them for $7 w/ puzzle is a crime  :o
next round i'll be buying a single set w/ puzzle for $10 and calling it a day,the bonus extra sh!t don't really do for me anyway



Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 11:35:47 AM
said this berfore,, being from canada and paying crazy high cost of shipping and ups fee's and then getting stiffed on the free poster i now have over $200 into 3 boxes,sure a rare card of jay's would have made it all worth while but we all can't pull a rabbit outa our ass,but a set of limited run cards should not drop below $20 IMO,,,selling them for $7 w/ puzzle is a crime  :o
next round i'll be buying a single set w/ puzzle for $10 and calling it a day,the bonus extra Snucker don't really do for me anyway




Ok, I understand your frustration, I though you were talking about normal set of events with standard costs, standard shipping and getting your poster.  You are speaking to your set of circumstances.  You really don't like the 5x7s?  The set, 5x7's and sketch is all I needed, everything else were throw ins for me.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 14, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers. 

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing. 

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 14, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers.  

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing.  

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long.  

ya i tend to agree on all of that,you said alot of what i had in mind
i'm not out to make money but i don't wanna grow old with extra sets and/or lose money

don't get me wrong i like the 5x7's and i did get a complete set with my 3 boxes,, and i do love the new series and have said many positive remarks on it.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 14, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
ya i tend to agree on all of that,you said alot of what i had in mind
i'm not out to make money but i don't wanna grow old with extra sets and/or lose money

don't get me wrong i like the 5x7's and i did get a complete set with my 3 boxes,, and i do love the new series and have said many positive remarks on it.


I don't wanna grow old... period.   ???
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on March 14, 2010, 12:50:31 PM
First, I don't understand much of the Old School ebay goings on, in light of the current availability of boxes at the ToppsOnline store.

So in short: yeah, people are nuts.   :o

I actually hadn't seen that Old School base sets were selling for $7 on Ebay.. but if that's true, I may actually purchase a few.  Not for investment, but to have more to stick and to share with friends.   I do dig the sketches, and I "value" them for myself and my collection, but I am far more excited about the base stickers. 

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about current selling prices for base stickers.  As Old School continues, and we (hopefully) get to Old School Series 6, 7, 8, etc...  the "base set" of series one will become far more important than it seems now.  Much in the way that "chase cards" lose a part of their appeal over time, I truly believe the base stickers in the Old School set will find their appeal increasing. 

At somewhere under 8,000 base sticker sets printed, that's a pretty limited release.   If "selling prices" is something you care about (and that's cool if you do) I predict that Old School base sticker sets are not going to be selling for $7 for long. 
there is always something special about first series.  ANS1 will always be my favorite.  I am unfamiliar with the ANS market but I assume ANS1 prices are pretty decent.  This Old School series will be special to me more so than next releases even if the next releases somehow blow this away.  Just something very nostalgic about it already.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on March 14, 2010, 02:29:00 PM
there is always something special about first series.  ANS1 will always be my favorite.  I am unfamiliar with the ANS market but I assume ANS1 prices are pretty decent.  This Old School series will be special to me more so than next releases even if the next releases somehow blow this away.  Just something very nostalgic about it already.
I totaly agree on both points! ANS 1 is deffintly my favorite of the ANS, but "Canibals" (Shrunken Noodle Soup) is my favorite ANS title...Hillarious!!!
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: slayskool on March 20, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Sketch-Card-colored-PUPSI_W0QQitemZ370351951871QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563ab24fff#ht_500wt_1182

AND MY RESPONSE.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3UY2K1F5AQ
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Crakola Crayons on March 20, 2010, 12:22:35 PM
And Whitney would certainly know.  LOL.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Plan 9 on March 23, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on March 23, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8

it says low .99 start bid in the description but the starting bid is $9.99?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 23, 2010, 09:06:53 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8
how can you go wrong when additional shipping is less than a penny? I'm tempted to win multiple auctions just to hold him to his word on that.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Dr Popper on March 24, 2010, 03:57:05 PM
If this isn't nuts then I don't know what is. The seller listed the same shitty Ajerx sticker 26 times and Nertz about 12 times.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-SERIES-2-AJERK-Cleaner_W0QQitemZ280483504616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414e1ea1e8

I saw that too.  I emailed the person and asked them if they were aware of it.  I'm not sure how you could list the same auction 26 times by accident. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 27, 2010, 06:26:08 AM
I saw that too.  I emailed the person and asked them if they were aware of it.  I'm not sure how you could list the same auction 26 times by accident. 
looks like most of the auctions were changed to other items, but still a few "ajerks" on there.
and additional postage is still a steal at .99 cents.
I guess he is like Verizon, and doesn't understand that .99 cents ≠ .99 dollars
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 27, 2010, 06:28:33 AM
a first series wrapper with a low starting bid of just $9.50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on March 27, 2010, 10:56:43 AM
a first series wrapper with a low starting bid of just $9.50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140394550976&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_956)

I'm surprised that the description didn't say it was red!
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on March 27, 2010, 12:30:19 PM
I'm surprised that the description didn't say it was red!
Do theese people have a clue? :^)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 06, 2010, 09:59:31 AM
Wow someone plunked down $86 on a sealed Old School box when you can get them from Topps for $58! I suppose they don't know about the Topps store, but don't they wonder where everyone else is buying them before shelling out this much money?
that one was a steal compared to this! 400% markup on an item still available? seriously?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Stickers-24-Pack-Box_W0QQitemZ150430895655QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2306614e27#ht_500wt_956
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 07, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
400% markup on an item still available? seriously?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Stickers-24-Pack-Box_W0QQitemZ150430895655QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2306614e27#ht_500wt_956
and another insane Old School markup on an item still available. Opening bid for a sheet at $100? buy it now at $149? Fishing for idiots obviously.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200458639836&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1182 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200458639836&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_1182)
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 09, 2010, 02:15:09 PM
I like Michael and have done business happily with him many times. However, this auction typifies the silliness of using PSA population reports to conclude a given wacky is rare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-SUNSTROKE-PSA-8-tough-Centered_W0QQitemZ220583584306

So no one bothered to submit many Creature Crackers. That makes it rare? I have at least 2 copies that are sure PSA 8's.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: bandaches on April 09, 2010, 02:46:27 PM
I like Michael and have done business happily with him many times. However, this auction typifies the silliness of using PSA population reports to conclude a given wacky is rare.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-SUNSTROKE-PSA-8-tough-Centered_W0QQitemZ220583584306

So no one bothered to submit many Creature Crackers. That makes it rare? I have at least 2 copies that are sure PSA 8's.
I'll bet I have PSA9 gradable middle series given that I got mainly 8's and a 9 when I sent in my batch of series 1s.  I just have to get motivated to pull everything and start sending some of it in.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on April 16, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
WOW! This guy really knows his Wacky's.
Note: From John Kapera, a Lot of Early Non-Sport cards That Iím listed should of been professionally graded so yes I know it, these are scarce cards because kids used these stickers on everything and even me when I sold Comic books My boxes were covered with Stickers as were other dealers and collectors no one knows how few early stickers there really are left they even made sticker books I predict in the next ten years the cards Iím selling will go up a whole lot and when it comes to collectibles Iím usually right. Let me add on Quality Promo & Insert cards is a Giant sleeper, price guides havenít changed there price in years, no one knows how many cards are left most were pitched, most price guides says $2.00 that donít mean itís true the price guide wonít tell you were you can find it for $2.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-7th-Series-El-Polluto-Cigars_W0QQitemZ170254973465

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-7th-Series-Feetena-Cereal_W0QQitemZ180281605474

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Topps-6th-Series-Fruit-of-the-Tomb_W0QQitemZ170254971584

Yes! They should be professionally graded! I love the line about most price guides say $2 but that don't mean it's true...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: wackyone on April 16, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
WOW,,, those are nice,and a good price too  :]
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on April 17, 2010, 12:23:25 AM
WOW,,, those are nice,and a good price too  :]

Who am I to believe? He is usually right:

I predict in the next ten years the cards Iím selling will go up a whole lot and when it comes to collectibles Iím usually right.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Playskull on April 18, 2010, 08:48:13 AM
Hey, look everyone: a big pile of worthless swill!  It can all be yours for the incredibly low starting price of $300.00!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/320-wacky-packages_W0QQitemZ130384189992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5b80da28
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: RonZombie on April 18, 2010, 11:05:03 AM
Hey, look everyone: a big pile of worthless swill!  It can all be yours for the incredibly low starting price of $300.00!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/320-wacky-packages_W0QQitemZ130384189992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5b80da28
And free shipping to boot!!! LOL :]
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on April 22, 2010, 08:50:56 AM
Does anybody know what in the world these things are:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=1976+shock+theater+art+wacky
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: Dr Popper on April 22, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Does anybody know what in the world these things are:

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=1976+shock+theater+art+wacky

The Wackys on the front look like just regulars with the normal copyrights. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 separate cards in there.  It looks like the text on the back cards were cut & pasted. 
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on April 22, 2010, 05:23:23 PM
The Wackys on the front look like just regulars with the normal copyrights. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 2 separate cards in there.  It looks like the text on the back cards were cut & pasted. 

It would be interesting to find out if there are two cards in there or was Topps using leftover 16th series Wackys as paste-up boards for this other series?
Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Truant on May 14, 2010, 12:10:11 PM
This guy thinks these run-of-the-mill 1980's sheets are actually worth something.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/clt/1723925097.html

What was the deal with these anyway? If I recall, there were like 20,000 produced for some reprint run or something?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 14, 2010, 04:55:36 PM
This guy thinks these run-of-the-mill 1980's sheets are actually worth something.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/clt/1723925097.html

What was the deal with these anyway? If I recall, there were like 20,000 produced for some reprint run or something?

Wasn't the theory that these were created to be inserts in Bond Bread?  Was that theory ever proven?
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BustedFinger on May 20, 2010, 06:02:19 PM
What I want to know is who are the nutty people that are bidding on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGE-ACEO-ATC-TRADING-CARD-VIAGRA-PARODY-/310220056508?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483a8e67bc

The auction even says that the image was digitally created.  Obviously created from Plastered Peanuts.
Title: Re: Are these people nuts?
Post by: BumChex on May 20, 2010, 06:11:49 PM
What I want to know is who are the nutty people that are bidding on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGE-ACEO-ATC-TRADING-CARD-VIAGRA-PARODY-/310220056508?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483a8e67bc

The auction even says that the image was digitally created.  Obviously created from Plastered Peanuts.

That is total garbage!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playskull on May 21, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluesberry-2006-Topps-wacky-packages-sticker-36-/170489515305?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f78d29
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on May 21, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluesberry-2006-Topps-wacky-packages-sticker-36-/170489515305?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f78d29

"Condition 7 nm"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 21, 2010, 05:21:46 PM
Looks like we have two different threads with this same title.  Perhaps one of these should be locked?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 21, 2010, 07:43:24 PM
Looks like we have two different threads with this same title.  Perhaps one of these should be locked?

Merged! Gotta love these new forum features.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HawaiianPunks on May 23, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
This seller thinks his card is near mint, but some tape damage on the back lowers it to excellent condition...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1)

 :o

I think he needs glasses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on May 24, 2010, 04:54:22 PM
This seller thinks his card is near mint, but some tape damage on the back lowers it to excellent condition...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Lavirus-1st-Series-Wacky-Packs-1973-WB-/200475690465?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead4845e1)

 :o

I think he needs glasses.

When he says Near Mint, he means the card is next to a box of Girls Scout cookies.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on May 24, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
When he says Near Mint, he means the card is next to a box of Girls Scout cookies.
Or maybe it's in Denver.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 29, 2010, 07:00:18 AM
Perfect thread for this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-STICKER-28-HER-SHE-MR-GOODBYE-/400035308198?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d23f662a6
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on May 29, 2010, 01:25:57 PM
Perfect thread for this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-STICKER-28-HER-SHE-MR-GOODBYE-/400035308198?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d23f662a6

wow...what a deal,i wish i had money to get all the 82' series cards for such a good price  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RonZombie on May 29, 2010, 04:06:13 PM
wow...what a deal,i wish i had money to get all the 82' series cards for such a good price  :]
It is a GREAT DEAL it has free shipping!!! :o ??? :^) :-[ :-X
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 14, 2010, 07:32:23 AM
Hey, might as well ask $149 for a $10 item, what's the harm??

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1974-Graded-Topps-Wax-Pack-GAI-Authentic-/180511273288
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 25, 2010, 06:05:27 AM

What am I missing on this one?ÖÖÖÖÖÖ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACK-COLLECTION-47-VINTAGE-STICKER-CARDS-/180525169021?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0823797d#ht_500wt_1154
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 25, 2010, 07:08:40 AM
What am I missing on this one?ÖÖÖÖÖÖ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACK-COLLECTION-47-VINTAGE-STICKER-CARDS-/180525169021?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0823797d#ht_500wt_1154
Come on now, it has a Pupsi in it, along with free shipping.  What's not to like!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:06:36 PM
Come on now, it has a Pupsi in it, along with free shipping.  What's not to like!
I was hoping someone here would pick up on this one. The seller and I went back and forth a couple times. Here's my original message:
Quote from: bigtomi to ebay seller
Hi. I don't have a question, except for how did you determine that these are worth $1,400? A lot of less than 50 Wacky Packs (including some '79-'80 reissues) is worth about $25 or so. The Pupsi-Cola is somewhat rare, but even it is worth maybe $25 alone. You might want to consider adjusting your starting bid amount...like taking the zeros off it. Just trying to help. Good luck!!
Here is their reply:
Quote from: ebay seller to bigtomi
I realize that 10 of the stickers from the reissues are not worth much, but 37 of them are from the early 70's and some have sold for $200.00 to $300.00 and some that I have sold for around $100.00. Even though my asking price may seem high, I am looking at all offers and the $1,400 is not a "starting bid" it is a buy it now price with option for offers. I find it rude that you would make a comment that I find to be insulting as dropping the zeros in my price. You are well aware that this item is worth more than $14.00 so you might not want to quit your day job lol. Thanks for your helpful insight.
Continued in next post...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:12:53 PM
Continued in next post...
So, here's my response:
Quote from: bigtomi to ebay seller
I am aware that the number was a BIN. My point was that this number is degrees of magnitude off. What tan/white backs did you get $100 for? What ones have you seen sell for $200-$300? As a long time collector, I am curious about this. I can also offer you this advice: If anyone offers you more than $50, take it, as they're as misinformed about these as you are.
Finally (as I let it go after this):
Quote from: ebay seller to bigtomi
Years ago I had a few that I sold at a card show, I think it was a dealer. I sold 5 cards and was paid close to $300.00. At the time I could not find the rest of my cards. My point being why am I to care about being informed I collected these stupid cards when I was a child and I could care less. My theory is that I will reduce the price periodically until someone buys them and I will be informed of the true value when that happens, until then I could care less. Also, why do you even care, if you are not interested and/or know that the price is too high, you can always move on. Regardless, all I need to know as a seller is that my price is better too high than too low because like I said I always reduce my price until it sells. My personal opinion is that all these items are valueless and are just clutter. I know you collect because I looked at what you purchase and I have to tell you I dumped alot of the items you purchased in the trash no disrespect, but partride family music???? Sorry, I couldn't resist. Happy Collecting
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: ebay moron
My personal opinion is that all these items are valueless and are just clutter
So, what I want to respond is: OK, then, send me the valueless Pupsi and you can wipe your ass with the rest, as far as I'm concerned.

But, it ain't worth it anymore...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
man that's crazy,,,the world is full of "nuts"
i'm glad you called him out,it's funny as hell to hear these reply's to such insane pricing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
lets all put this one on your 'watch list' so he thinks he has lots of potential buyers  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on June 25, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
lets all put this one on your 'watch list' so he thinks he has lots of potential buyers  :P
I just added this item to my Watch List.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 25, 2010, 10:11:33 PM
ok who did it??
someone made him an offer  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on June 26, 2010, 04:40:09 AM
ok who did it??
someone made him an offer  :]


I offered him $20
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 26, 2010, 05:51:10 AM
I offered him $20


 :o...did you really?
he must be pissed!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on June 26, 2010, 06:41:09 AM

 :o...did you really?
he must be pissed!

I figured "what the hell"!  If enough people make him low-ball offers, he might just get the picture.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 6up on June 26, 2010, 05:14:26 PM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on June 27, 2010, 04:31:47 AM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 

wow,,,5 offers,all from different buyers,,,this lot is HOT !...he must be thinkin'  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 27, 2010, 08:14:23 AM
Better jump on it folks.  He dropped the price to 999.99. 
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 28, 2010, 05:34:24 AM
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.

Maybe I will jump in and make him an offer, $25.  It's funny to watch this thing slide.  I wonder what he will think when he brings it all the way down to $100 and it still does not sell!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on June 28, 2010, 07:18:51 AM
I offered him $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 30, 2010, 07:23:04 PM
Now it's a true deal: down to $650.
it's dropped a couple more times. only $299 now! what a deal!

I thought maybe they had just screwed up initially,  and were in denial or didn't realize what they did - to me it read in their response to your question that they meant to put $14.00, not $1400. forgot the decimal? no big thing
But apparently not... this is just ridiculous ...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on July 07, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
Looking at ebay this afternoon reminded me of this topic to the point of where I had to leave a few comments.

I won't single-out any particular person but I see alot of re-selling of toppsvault items. I've lost my share of auctions but when I do I like to see what the item ended up selling for. There are some on there now being sold for 3 and 4x's the final winning bid when it was originally auctioned. These people must be overly optomistic or think collectors will think it's a deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 08:50:22 AM

This dude lists the exact same Cram sticker 4 times and each auction has a picture of Cram from Greg's website.  He also notes that he doesn't combine shipping, so $1.75 shipping for each single sticker.  Crap like this bugs me.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-CRAM-Tan-Backs-/360283409725?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e2908d3d#ht_500wt_1154
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on July 22, 2010, 10:19:31 AM
 :'(  lets get him  >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on July 22, 2010, 11:59:15 AM
This dude lists the exact same Cram sticker 4 times and each auction has a picture of Cram from Greg's website.  He also notes that he doesn't combine shipping, so $1.75 shipping for each single sticker.  Crap like this bugs me.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973Topps-Wacky-Packages-Sticker-CRAM-Tan-Backs-/360283409725?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e2908d3d#ht_500wt_1154

I saw this too and was about to post on this thread. You beat me to it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
:'(  lets get him  >:D


This was his response when I questioned if it was the actual stickerÖÖÖÖÖ.

"The one you see is the actual card the other ones are the same picture copied---All are the same condition MINT"

It's strange he would say that when obviously all 4 are identical.  You can see the little blemishes in the exact same spot.  The shadowing is a dead give away too.  Who does those on an auction anyway? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 22, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Rob,
I had a bad experience with this guy: ebay seller - vitominella. Personally, I would avoid him. I purchased 2 singles from him in June & requested that he ship them together. He said they were from different sellers, so they couldn't be shipped together. I found this very annoying especially because the shipping was $2.25 on a single sticker and it says nowhere in the auctions I won that they couldn't be combined. He has subsequently added that there is no combined shipping to his auctions AFTER that.

That being the case, I paid for them a couple of days apart figuring that if they weren't coming together, let him ship 2 packages if I was paying for 2. I received the 1st package, but I never received the 2nd. When I asked him for a copy of the postal receipts since both packages were gioing to the same place, he just gave the receipt #s dates & times, from the SAME post office and his note said that if I wanted delivery confirmation I should have requested it. Since he originally said that they were from different sellers, I figured he was having them drop shipped, but based on his info, that was NOT the case. He didn't apologize or ask or offer anything further. Someone I definitely thought to myself I would never do business with again.

I then opened a case on ebay, they decided in my favor & refunded the money. A big waste of time & unpleasant experience done mostly for principle, but if anyone else can learn & avoid, by all means, please do.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
Rob,
I had a bad experience with this guy: ebay seller - vitominella. Personally, I would avoid him. I purchased 2 singles from him in June & requested that he ship them together. He said they were from different sellers, so they couldn't be shipped together. I found this very annoying especially because the shipping was $2.25 on a single sticker and it says nowhere in the auctions I won that they couldn't be combined. He has subsequently added that there is no combined shipping to his auctions AFTER that.

That being the case, I paid for them a couple of days apart figuring that if they weren't coming together, let him ship 2 packages if I was paying for 2. I received the 1st package, but I never received the 2nd. When I asked him for a copy of the postal receipts since both packages were gioing to the same place, he just gave the receipt #s dates & times, from the SAME post office and his note said that if I wanted delivery confirmation I should have requested it. Since he originally said that they were from different sellers, I figured he was having them drop shipped, but based on his info, that was NOT the case. He didn't apologize or ask or offer anything further. Someone I definitely thought to myself I would never do business with again.

I then opened a case on ebay, they decided in my favor & refunded the money. A big waste of time & unpleasant experience done mostly for principle, but if anyone else can learn & avoid, by all means, please do.

He sounds like someone DEFINITELY to avoid.  Did you leave him a neg?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ROID on July 22, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
I bought 1 wacky from vitominella. Got busy with the yard and around the house. 2 days pass and I have 3 messages on my ebay page from him demanding my payment of $3.25. Paid him,but left no feedback. I'll stick with Ted Jeffrey and Paul Mandan. I got 16 wackys from Paul in 1 shipment...$1 postage just as he says. Can't beat that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 22, 2010, 06:50:32 PM
I bought 1 wacky from vitominella. Got busy with the yard and around the house. 2 days pass and I have 3 messages on my ebay page from him demanding my payment of $3.25. Paid him,but left no feedback. I'll stick with Ted Jeffrey and Paul Mandan. I got 16 wackys from Paul in 1 shipment...$1 postage just as he says. Can't beat that.

Gotta add that I have made at least  6 purchased from Ted Jeffrey in the past few months and have had great results each time. Nothing I would call a terrific bargain but sometimes its nice to be able to purchase with confidence you will get exactly what was advertised at a fair price... sometime no surprises is worth a hair bit extra.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: freetoes on July 22, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
Or maybe it's in Denver.

Good one.  By this reckoning, anything at the Philly Show could be designated Near Mint.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on July 23, 2010, 05:10:48 AM
Good one.  By this reckoning, anything at the Philly Show could be designated Near Mint.
Good point! Some enterprising seller should make use of that, just to draw attention to their booth.

I was once in a big candy store in Denver and asked for the famous "Denver Mint" that I'd heard so much about. After laughing too much at my own joke, I mentioned that they must hear that joke all the time. However, the two employees behind the counter quite convincingly said that they hadn't. It must have been their first day.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 23, 2010, 06:14:15 AM
He sounds like someone DEFINITELY to avoid.  Did you leave him a neg?

I gave him a neutral. He says the post office lost it. Although he is not accomodating (IMO) I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that respect, but did explain that "the item never arrived & ebay refunded my money" in the feedback comments. Live, learn & move on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 23, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
I gave him a neutral. He says the post office lost it. Although he is not accomodating (IMO) I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that respect, but did explain that "the item never arrived & ebay refunded my money" in the feedback comments. Live, learn & move on.

That seems fair...based on the fact you got your money back...thx for the info...will definitely beware...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 11, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 11, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)
I think he has some issues with counting or maybe he uses a numbering system different from ours.....only 7 stickers have fallen off?  Did a bunch more fly off from the force of the flash from his camera?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 12, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
I think he has some issues with counting or maybe he uses a numbering system different from ours.....only 7 stickers have fallen off?  Did a bunch more fly off from the force of the flash from his camera?
"Different numbering system" lol. I appreciate it when people pile on a bit because it helps to catch my attention and to motivate me to click a link or read more about something, and Iím sure glad I clicked that link from Fanatical. Iím going to start crying now. That has to one of the funniest things ever, hun? The flooring and the crystal figurines add a nice touch to the shot. Is this auction some forum memberís idea of a joke? And itís not even April Foolís Day. I suspect that sheet spent many years rolling around in the back of a Pinto hatchback with someones Van Halen posters and old sneakers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 12, 2010, 07:06:15 AM
a little bit NUTS here....
listed condition is Mint, brand new, undamaged, etc., when it's kind of obvious there's some issues.... I wonder if they ship it flat or rolled????
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220652269502&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_959wt_1105)

Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 12, 2010, 04:27:51 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
yeah, it's sad to see uncut sheets from the original run in bad condition. I've always felt that those are some of the coolest items around
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 12, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D
I sold my double series 5 sheet earlier this year!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on August 13, 2010, 03:05:52 PM
Holy Crap! That's a bummer! I would love to own a series 5 sheet. I suppose you could always fill in the ones that are missing :D

Lots of empty spaces for Jay to draw little sketches . . .
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
I sold my double series 5 sheet earlier this year!
I never saw your sheet but I can imagine it was quite an upgrade from this sheet. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 13, 2010, 10:38:21 PM
I never saw your sheet but I can imagine it was quite an upgrade from this sheet. ;)
I sold it privately, it was available on my listed "for sale" thread on the old forum.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 11:17:10 PM
I sold it privately, it was available on my listed "for sale" thread on the old forum.

It's strange how most of us collectors (or just buyers) of the 70's probably remember series 4-8 the best but non of those cards have as much value as other sets (other then the obvious short prints). I realize they ramped up production for those sets and people bought a truck load of those sets but still, now, almost 40 years later they don't have the same value even though, I am sure, that most collectors feel those series are dear to their hearts. I still have a very fond memory of series 7. I bought a bunch of that series as it was the peak of my collecting. Now that series isn't that highly regarded by some collectors. I also love the 11th series. I don't know why but that was another series I bought a bunch of and stuck anywhere. In fact, when I got back into this hobby back in 2004 the first set I bought was series 7. To me that holds a lot of sentimental value. I now have a ton of series 7 stuff but it's still fun to collect.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 13, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
This auction may not fall in the 'are these people nuts' column but I think it does say a lot for the hype of the new postcard series. People are trying to get the perfect sketch (whatever that may be) and will take so many chances to see if someone else passed it by.
Look at this auction. It still has 4 days left on it and it's up to almost $160

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNOPENED-287-Wacky-Packs-Series-6-postcards-w-SKETCH-/260648043205
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on August 14, 2010, 06:23:42 AM
I'd say quite a few buyers/sellers on ebay these days have far surpassed being nuts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 14, 2010, 09:02:13 AM
This auction may not fall in the 'are these people nuts' column but I think it does say a lot for the hype of the new postcard series. People are trying to get the perfect sketch (whatever that may be) and will take so many chances to see if someone else passed it by.
Look at this auction. It still has 4 days left on it and it's up to almost $160

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNOPENED-287-Wacky-Packs-Series-6-postcards-w-SKETCH-/260648043205
How is this any different than folks buying unopend old school boxes hoping to pull a nice one?  I think if someone crunches the numbers based on % and value of all possible pulls, they will see the calculated value of these "unopened" items is too high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 18, 2010, 10:04:22 AM
I'd say quite a few buyers/sellers on ebay these days have far surpassed being nuts.

Guilty!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on August 18, 2010, 02:05:11 PM
Guilty!

What we used to be able to get at a relatively low winning bid has increased 100, 200% and even more.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on August 31, 2010, 05:47:58 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crakola Crayons on August 31, 2010, 06:46:46 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d

Mine is miscut the exact same way.  Worth $25.00?  I don't think so.  Worth not much more likely.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 31, 2010, 09:22:20 AM
Mine is miscut the exact same way.  Worth $25.00?  I don't think so.  Worth not much more likely.

I could possibly see miscuts like these being worth something (maybe even the $25) if they were rare.  But it seems that these are pretty common with this new series!

You could buy it from this guy for $25 and then send it in to Topps for a replacement!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 31, 2010, 10:56:46 AM
what the hell is the world comin to,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-2010-SERIES-7-F7-MISCUT-CARD-/150487288173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309bdc96d

There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on August 31, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
OMG   :o
tat's a shame,,,what a bunch of hacks...lemme guess a mint perfect cut Pupsi foil will now go for $100 cause they messed so many up

there ya go i got the bidding started..don't rape me on shipping  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 31, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

Hey! I got a set exactly like that. So for so many of these miscut foils to have gone out, there must of been a pretty sizable run that slipped through unnoticed. I wonder how these are checked and how often during the printing and cutting process.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 31, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
...don't rape me on shipping  :]
I've never heard that before.
Thatís gorgeous.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 31, 2010, 06:11:45 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

That's funny!  I was thinking about listing a budget full set of Foils all with defects.  I bet someone would buy them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 09:01:59 PM
There! I just listed 9 miscut Pupsi's and at a starting price of just $.99. Have at it miscut collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519154369

my bid was canceled and it's ended???..wtf?...did ya get some big offer to pull it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
my bid was canceled and it's ended???..wtf?...did ya get some big offer to pull it?
What do you mean your bid? The top bidder bought a few other things from me so I negotiated a price with him to sell it along with the other cards he bought. Did you have a snipe in there?
What I find is most anything on ebay is up for negotiations. I saw that Cardgary yesterday sold a gold Wiiz that I may have been after. I messaged him to see if it was sold and he said yes. I didn't have a chance. With ebay fee's, people with try and get around the extra cost.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 09:16:27 PM
i'm not busting yer balls,,,i do it all the time as well
just funny that this would warrent that type of transaction...must be worth more money then i thought
next time i'll bid $2  :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 09:52:30 PM
i'm not busting yer balls,,,i do it all the time as well
just funny that this would warrent that type of transaction...must be worth more money then i thought
next time i'll bid $2  :D

It's not a tremendous amount of money but it would be a lot cheaper to buy than a set of foils. You also have to realize I pulled these expecting to have sets of foils and now I am about 9 pupsi's short :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
ya that's gonna suck for lots of people,,,to tell ya truth though,,,a page of 9 mis-cuts would be cool to keep
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 02, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
ya that's gonna suck for lots of people,,,to tell ya truth though,,,a page of 9 mis-cuts would be cool to keep

Oh, now you throw that in my face ;)
I'm really not a fan of miscut cards. I don't like them. I like everything to be perfect in my collection. The only thing I have found with my collection is that I am not perfect..LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 02, 2010, 11:50:14 PM
 :]...ya i'm wit ya,,,i hate mis-cuts,,i spent alot of money to make sure my collection has none as well but it;s more of a novelty item when ya get a page of them like that
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 06:27:05 AM
What do you mean your bid? The top bidder bought a few other things from me so I negotiated a price with him to sell it along with the other cards he bought. Did you have a snipe in there?
What I find is most anything on ebay is up for negotiations. I saw that Cardgary yesterday sold a gold Wiiz that I may have been after. I messaged him to see if it was sold and he said yes. I didn't have a chance. With ebay fee's, people with try and get around the extra cost.

What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 03, 2010, 06:51:44 AM
What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.

From the opposite side, I can tell you how much it stinks to be bidding on an item, and then it's just gone.  That's happened to me a number of times, and I frequently now feel, why bother trying?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 06:57:30 AM
From the opposite side, I can tell you how much it stinks to be bidding on an item, and then it's just gone.  That's happened to me a number of times, and I frequently now feel, why bother trying?

Exactly, and that's why I won't pull one down if there is a bid.  It's happened to me as a buyer and it stinks, especially if there is something you really want.  If there are others out there like me it would be wise to put an early bid in just to show interest.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 09:03:29 AM
What is your personal policy for pulling down an auction?  I personally won't do it if there are bids on the item.  At least if there are no bids I can justify it by saying "no one was interested, there were no bids", but it still bothers me a little to be honest.

People can say what they want about eBay, but it provides us incredible exposure as buyers and sellers that I know I would miss greatly if it wasn't there.  If you are going to take advantage of the exposure they provide you don't they deserve to make a little money in return?  I think they do, and that's why it bothers me when I pull down an auction.  It's not the way the system is supposed to work.

I have only pulled down 2 auctions with bidding in the last 10 years. I have pulled down about 20 auctions in the last couple years with no bidding to sell off of ebay. I really didn't think the miscut auction would get much notice but I guess it has. The guy that bought it was also the top bidder and I got 4 times as much for it as he was bidding. The auction could have gone higher but I really didn't care. I totally agree that ebay is great for exposure and we need it. I don't plan to do this on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 03, 2010, 09:16:25 AM
they are steep,,,i'm mean 12%,,,plus listing fee's..it's just to much
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 03, 2010, 09:27:23 AM
I have only pulled down 2 auctions with bidding in the last 10 years. I have pulled down about 20 auctions in the last couple years with no bidding to sell off of ebay. I really didn't think the miscut auction would get much notice but I guess it has. The guy that bought it was also the top bidder and I got 4 times as much for it as he was bidding. The auction could have gone higher but I really didn't care. I totally agree that ebay is great for exposure and we need it. I don't plan to do this on a regular basis.

But what if somebody came on here and said, "SOLD!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Sue Mee on September 03, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
But what if somebody came on here and said, "SOLD!!"

(http://www.midaswelby.com/lmao.gif)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on September 03, 2010, 11:00:08 AM
...don't they deserve to make a little  money in return?.

Key word being "little"... End of auction fees + Paypal fees add up to a lot more than a little.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 03, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
Exactly, and that's why I won't pull one down if there is a bid.  It's happened to me as a buyer and it stinks, especially if there is something you really want.  If there are others out there like me it would be wise to put an early bid in just to show interest.
I pull auctions regularly but only if they have no bids.  Most of the time, I run fixed price auctions, accepting offers and then I sell off line.  If you review my past listed auctions that were not relisted, 90% of them had been sold privately.  Pollydent art is a good example.  My extra set of Old School sketches would be another.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
Oh My God! OMG!
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-7-GOLD-FLASH-FOIL-CARD-18-20-/330468468130
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 03, 2010, 07:29:35 PM

This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:34:11 PM
This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805

Did you even look at the gold I posted? You could get a whole set cheap!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 03, 2010, 07:40:30 PM
This is getting crazy.......how can we be expected to collect these at these prices?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS-7-COLOR-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-/380265715717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58899a5805

Don't forget this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-7-ANS7-SKETCH-CARD-Fred-Wheaton-WOW-/110581510042

must be Cardgary's brother!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 04, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
I get the same feeling with sketch cards as the housing market in 2005/2006. Kept wondering what the heck people were thinking and then... *POP!!*

Kind of like Tulip Mania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_bubble) in 17th century Netherlands.

Perhaps we're in the midst of a Sketch Card Bubble...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Sue Mee on September 06, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 06, 2010, 06:16:38 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.

They are fishing for suckers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on September 07, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???

http://tinyurl.com/Cereal-Box-Ripoff

The same seller is selling the Poligripe card for the same cost of the entire collectors kit that includes Poligripe.

Its probably 'Turbo???' he's notorious for that!! Fishing for suckers!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 07, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
What's with these Ebay sellers running auctions for the (still available from Topps) cereal box sets for double the cost???
Funny. We should call these people, Keystone Seller's. That's a nice mark up! Maybe it's a "handling charge"?  haha

I've been wondering (maybe I missed it), do we have any idea of how many trays were (or will be) produced? Do we know if the cereal box sets will be available for several years to come?

I have the same question about the regular edition postcards. I see Topps still has all of the postcard series available, including series 1 from 2007, and wonder if or how long it will take to sell out, or if they every will.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 07, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Funny. We should call these people, Keystone Seller's. That's a nice mark up! Maybe it's a "handling charge"?  haha

I've been wondering (maybe I missed it), do we have any idea of how many trays were (or will be) produced? Do we know if the cereal box sets will be available for several years to come?

I have the same question about the regular edition postcards. I see Topps still has all of the postcard series available, including series 1 from 2007, and wonder if or how long it will take to sell out, or if they every will.
I don't know how many cereal boxes Topps made but they will eventually sell out because they are ANS7 product. They can keep printing postcards as long as they want.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 11, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
I find it amusing that this guy is selling these as promos

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-New-Series-ANS-7-Promotional-Card-5-lot_W0QQitemZ230520059101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D380266291184%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5752111975390376882
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:07:50 PM
I find it amusing that this guy is selling these as promos

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-New-Series-ANS-7-Promotional-Card-5-lot_W0QQitemZ230520059101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D380266291184%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5752111975390376882

Technically it is a promo though because it's promoting the collectors kit, no?   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:21:01 PM

There seems to be a trend lately to list items at obscene prices.  I don't remember this happening until recently...............

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-ANS7-RARE-GOLD-Flash-Foil-WETFLIX-20-/260663175935?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb0bc6aff
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 11, 2010, 05:22:49 PM

This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 11, 2010, 05:44:24 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

I'm waiting for it to hit six figures - maybe then it will sell!  If not, he might just keep it forever!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 11, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

Yeah, I've seen that one from $18k onward. Hilarious.

Seems to be under the delusion: "If it doesn't sell, it's obviously not expensive enough."  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 11, 2010, 09:53:36 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 11, 2010, 09:56:06 PM
That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.
The insertion fees are barely 50 cents with all of the specials ebay has been running.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 12, 2010, 09:12:56 AM
That guy is losing cash on the insertion fee's. Doesn't make sense. He has been trying to peddle that art for a year now. I actually don't like it at all.

I sent him an friendly email letting him know he accidentally added an extra "0" onto his price.  The funny think is even with the zero missing it's still too high!   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 12, 2010, 06:37:44 PM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 12, 2010, 06:42:03 PM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
LOL, private auction, I don't think so......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 12, 2010, 08:22:40 PM
This one cracks me up too!  I seems that every time I see this auction the dude is listing it higher and higher............

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-MICHAEL-JACKSON-10-STARS-ORIGINAL-ART-/130430343730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e411a32

You know what they say:

(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n363/mikiedepaz/whitney_houston.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on September 13, 2010, 03:11:05 AM
WOW!!!

48 bids on this 14th set for a new market high in this economy!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200516499930&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123
Maybe the high bidders are both inexperienced with the net and both thought this set was a lucky find.

Imagine a world where every auction includes a "going rate" quote.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 13, 2010, 03:24:47 AM
Maybe the high bidders are both inexperienced with the net and both thought this set was a lucky find.

Imagine a world where every auction includes a "going rate" quote.

I bid on a few of his sets,,just lookin' for deals,,the 15th went for over $300,,seems fishy but we'll see what Brad gets for his
i paid $140 w/puzzle for my 14th set,, average NM and only upgraded about 3 of them,.,,i thought it was a good deal at the time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on September 13, 2010, 11:15:59 AM
I got my 14th a couple years back for $140 without puzzle
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 17, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 17, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

no question...he's nuts  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RonZombie on September 17, 2010, 11:34:54 AM
I got my 14th a couple years back for $140 without puzzle
My wife got me mine a couple of Christmas ago!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on September 17, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

Best lines: "not mint" and "has wear".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 17, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
I think even 99 cents might be a bit to much for this gem:

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110585592960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf6a3c80

Even better: $6.50 shipping! :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on September 19, 2010, 01:17:17 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 19, 2010, 01:28:03 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5

lol! Not only is it Brand New, it's Brand New Great Looking Brand New!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 19, 2010, 01:31:31 PM
lol! Not only is it Brand New, it's Brand New Great Looking Brand New!
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Duznt on September 19, 2010, 01:45:25 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...

"Provocative"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2010, 03:29:55 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...

I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 19, 2010, 03:39:57 PM
I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 

I couldn't agree more with your "anallysis".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
I couldn't agree more with your "anallysis".


 :bravo_2: 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 19, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
But... oh, never mind. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 19, 2010, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: Fanatical_and_Sickly on Today at 02:31:31 PM
I'm a bit worried about the "proctive" card holder. (Or is it "proctective"?) I'm not really sure what that means...


I'm with you... sounds too much like something a proctologist would have a vested interest in. I don't have any interest in any card I have to add to my collection "supositorally". 

Dem cards need "proctive" card holders - otherwise, handling might "recdem".

Sorry, I shoulda quit before I hit bottom.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 19, 2010, 08:02:49 PM
You'd think Gene Simmons himself was listing this auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-KISSKAT-WACKY-PACKAGES-RARE-SONIC-BOOM-LOOK-/270637337029?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f033e09c5
One of the KISS members is an artist now and he doesn't seem to like discussion KISS at all.  I think it is Paul Stanley, anyone know for sure? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 19, 2010, 08:49:38 PM
it's baaaaack

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110588501706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf969eca
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on September 20, 2010, 09:32:12 AM
it's baaaaack

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110588501706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bf969eca

WT_?!?

mb there is an infomercial or something that both this guy and the guy with The Dims painting saw: "Raise Prices on your eBay non-sellers to Get Rich Quick!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Taz on September 20, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
One of the KISS members is an artist now and he doesn't seem to like discussion KISS at all.  I think it is Paul Stanley, anyone know for sure? 

You are correct, it is Paul Stanley.  I was in Chicago a few years past and Paul was at a local mall that had an art gallery that was showing his paintings. I was fortunate to be able to talk with Paul for a short time and he definitely steered away talking about KISS and I thought nothing more about it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on September 20, 2010, 09:45:08 AM
WT_?!?

mb there is an infomercial or something that both this guy and the guy with The Dims painting saw: "Raise Prices on your eBay non-sellers to Get Rich Quick!"

I like it, it has a distinguished look to it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on September 20, 2010, 10:32:11 AM
You are correct, it is Paul Stanley.  I was in Chicago a few years past and Paul was at a local mall that had an art gallery that was showing his paintings. I was fortunate to be able to talk with Paul for a short time and he definitely steered away talking about KISS and I thought nothing more about it.

I read an article about his artwork ( I forget where) and he only likes to discuss his art when he is representing his art. If it were an interview about music, then he will talk KISS all day. I got the impressing that with painting, he initially was surprised that he had this talent in him and now is proud of what he has accomplished. I imagine that he has spent 35+ years talking KISS and now wants to talk painting. Painting is relatively new to him and exciting. Questions about whether Peter and Ace will rejoin the band are tired and old and are probably thrown at him daily. Gene is THE perfect self-promoter, so Paul probably lets Gene be the spokes person nowdays.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: HeadAndBoulders on September 20, 2010, 12:53:18 PM
I read an article about his artwork ( I forget where) and he only likes to discuss his art when he is representing his art. If it were an interview about music, then he will talk KISS all day. I got the impressing that with painting, he initially was surprised that he had this talent in him and now is proud of what he has accomplished. I imagine that he has spent 35+ years talking KISS and now wants to talk painting. Painting is relatively new to him and exciting. Questions about whether Peter and Ace will rejoin the band are tired and old and are probably thrown at him daily. Gene is THE perfect self-promoter, so Paul probably lets Gene be the spokes person nowdays.
Wow!!! One of my favorite topics on "Are These People Nuts"  thread.  Usually, in the last few interviews when the whole band are together, Paul seems to dominate the interviews concerning KISS.  He is a multi-talented individual, and  in my opinion, a very underrated vocalist.  He is the heart and soul of KISS in my opinion.  I wasnt overly thrilled with "Sonic Boom"  but when I heard Ace's new solo album "Anomaly", all I could think is  "this is what is missing from KISS".  Even though I am not looking for another reunion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 23, 2010, 05:44:43 PM
This doesnít rise to the level of outrage as some of the auctions in this thread, but I think itís funny to see someone selling a common title with writing on the front for $4.99

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Non-Sports/1974/Wacky_Packages_Series_8/4/Burpsi-Cola

Iíve got a fair number of stickers with names on the back of them (OS swill that I scored from Greg and Ernie about 8 years ago when I first got back into the hobby). I find some of writing on the backs (kids writing) to be kind of neat and I had a kooky idea recently to make a framed collection of the writing on the back of WP stickers. Maybe a set of 4 X 4 sticker backs (Iíd say tanbacks set against a white or black background) might look pretty cool. Or not. Just another nutty idea of mine . . .

A related idea is to have a contest to see who has the sticker with the craziest / coolest writing or drawing on the reverse. There might be some neat stuff out there!

OK, I've now completed my creative thinking quota for the month of September.      :icon_jokercolor:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 23, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
I won a set of series 16's awhile back. I was very suspicious of the auction but won it for $900, which was a very good deal at the time. The guy messages me and was totally blown away since they couldn't sell them for $.50 at their garage sale. He said his wife told him to throw them but he decided to put them on eBay.
About 5 of the cards were really nice while about 5 of them were used for adding up a garage sale buy totaling about $1.75. Someone used the backs as scratch paper. I sold the set for $600 and took a very hard $300 hit and a new ebay life lesson. Some people get really lucky with these quirky auctions but I have been burned a few time on various lots and such.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 23, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Non-Sports/1974/Wacky_Packages_Series_8/4/Burpsi-Cola

holy crap this place looks like it's where overpriced wackys go to die,,, :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: VX HYPERSPACE on September 25, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Iím sorry if this has been already talked about, but how can someone tell if there is an autographed foil / auto error / Sketch in an unopened pack?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-AUTO-SKETCH-ERROR-CARD-HOT-PACK-/280566548960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415311c9e0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 25, 2010, 01:37:27 PM
Iím sorry if this has been already talked about, but how can someone tell if there is an autographed foil / auto error / Sketch in an unopened pack?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-AUTO-SKETCH-ERROR-CARD-HOT-PACK-/280566548960?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415311c9e0


There has been quite a bit of discussion about this seller in the ANS7 Spoilers thread.  If you look at the seller's other auctions you will see that he is selling these "hot packs" for other types of card series (baseball, football, etc).  The only confirmation we have that this is legit is that Leslie bought a couple of packs from this person that were guaranteed to have a flash foil in them and she said that both packs did indeed have Silvers in them.  Those packs only sold for a few bucks each but I don't think anyone has taken the plunge to risk $100 on one of these possible autograph/sketch packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 28, 2010, 09:57:48 PM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on September 29, 2010, 06:10:42 AM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123



This was 1 of many 1st, 2nd & 3rd series psa9s that sold last night in the $300 to $400 range. It does seem a bit excessive to me, but since they were auctions, at least 1 other person was just under the high bidder in all cases...

I must say that I've been in the process of upgrading my 1st to 16th run over the past 6 months, and most people's nm is far from it IMO. I have gone through thousands of stickers and the majority aren't in great shape. When you go the psa route, you do save quite a bit of time and money eliminating "the chase." I usually take a hybrid approach of chasing upgrades, but when I can get a good deal on a psa htf sticker, I'm not against that.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on September 29, 2010, 06:28:30 AM
ya i was shocked at how much some of your 1st cards went for,a few i was watchin' went for over $300 each
it seems some people will pay these amounts just to get that high grade from PSA when they would not likely yield more then about $10 each otherwise
My 1st set is very bright,clean,sharp,with nice over whiteness and well centered,and i dout i have over $300 into the whole set even with the big 4,,,took me about a year of hunting deals,but i'm proud of it for the money.


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on September 29, 2010, 07:03:59 AM
ya i was shocked at how much some of your 1st cards went for,a few i was watchin' went for over $300 each
it seems some people will pay these amounts just to get that high grade from PSA when they would not likely yield more then about $10 each otherwise
My 1st set is very bright,clean,sharp,with nice over whiteness and well centered,and i dout i have over $300 into the whole set even with the big 4,,,took me about a year of hunting deals,but i'm proud of it for the money.




I wish those cards were mine at those prices, but I was just an auction watcher last night.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 29, 2010, 07:17:41 AM
people are "nuts" when it comes to psa's,,i swear i get cards as nice as this for a few bux

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380271661300&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123


.........and look how yellowed that card looks!  That to me would downgrade it to EX+ at best.  If I had a series 1 that yellowed in my collection it would definitely be on my upgrade list, but PSA says it's MINT.  It doesn't make sense.  They obviously don't take discoloration into account as long as it's balanced throughout the card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 29, 2010, 07:57:14 AM
.........and look how yellowed that card looks!  That to me would downgrade it to EX+ at best.  If I had a series 1 that yellowed in my collection it would definitely be on my upgrade list, but PSA says it's MINT.  It doesn't make sense.  They obviously don't take discoloration into account as long as it's balanced throughout the card.

It should have an ST qualifier for stained!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 29, 2010, 08:39:55 AM
If we could all guarantee results like this, I am sure that we would all pick out our best stickers for grading.  I really can not figure Ebayers out these days.  I listed a 1973 Series Two set in VG to EX condition a few months ago and it sold for a few dollars.  I listed another set a few weeks ago in similiar condition and it sold for about $80.00.  I am sure that we all have similiar stories to tell.  I have been planning to send in some stickers to PSA for years now and I keep putting it off.  I want to do it this year but I keep spending my money and buying more Original Series Wacky items.  With Old School Two right around the corner, I will probably put it off again. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 19, 2010, 07:17:11 PM
It should have an ST qualifier for stained!

Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on October 19, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

Looks awful, even for a Wacky Cloth sticker. Seriously.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 19, 2010, 07:56:44 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 19, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.
I should smear peanut butter on a high grade shedd's card and see what grade it gets.  ST for stinks?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on October 19, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
Look at this one.  You've got to be kidding me.  "Very hard to find one like this in this shape"??  Nice gloss?  What gloss is he referring to, the plastic casing?.................

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-CRUST-CLOTH-GRDED-PSA-8-NM-/380280818186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588a80ca0a

that's the 2nd time around for that one...1st time is saw it i laughed so hard i almost fell outa my chair  :85:


ya know it makes me really wonder is who is dumb enough to send these butt ugly stickers in to be graded?

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MountainGoo on October 20, 2010, 07:47:55 AM
I should smear peanut butter on a high grade shedd's card and see what grade it gets.  ST for stinks?

For ultra sheen you spray polyurethane....lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on October 20, 2010, 07:52:49 AM
At least now that it's slabbed, there's no worry of it falling apart, like all of my cloth stickers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on October 20, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
I'm amazed that it actually pulled an 8. I'm sure they look at the overall card but throw the ST qualifier in for good measure. Other than the staining it's a nice card. There wouldn't be any nice gloss because it's a cloth so not sure where he is going with that.

Yeah that is ridiculous that PSA would qualify that mess with an "ST".  I have a really nice Alcohol Seltzer die-cut that is PSA 7 with an "ST" qualifier.  The stain is a tiny little black dot about 1 mm in diameter on the back of the card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 20, 2010, 10:13:27 AM
At least now that it's slabbed, there's no worry of it falling apart, like all of my cloth stickers.

Yah but I wondering if a Cloth like that could have deteriorated over several years after it was graded and slabbed, like in very hot or humid conditions?  I just can't see a grading service grading a card like that that high.  It doesn't seem possible. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 20, 2010, 01:09:52 PM
They feel the browning falls under the "ST" qualifier, and the card is otherwise NM. Kind of useless, as if they graded it without the qualifier they would have to give it a very low grade. Qualifiers were an attempt to address specific defects that might bother some more than others (like centering). It's a way of giving the buyer information about the structure combined with info about a specific defect.

Having said that, it's inappropriate, because this browning is NOT a stain, anymore than a whiteback with a tanned border is. They don't qualify or downgrade for that tanning at all, to the chagrin of many.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 20, 2010, 01:13:30 PM
This refers to the buyers of the comics I recently consigned for sale. I had bought 2 books at Electric City Comics in Schenectady, NY in Summer, 2001: Fantastic Four #68 and Tales of Suspense #89. I was ahead of my time in spending the entire '90's looking for the highest grade comics, when they were still available reasonably cheaply if you were willing to dig. I think I paid $140 for the pair.

Anyway, I had them graded by CGC and they both got grades of 9.8. The FF 68 sold for $2100, and the TOS 89 for $1540. Nuts, but I like it!! Bring on the wackys!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on October 22, 2010, 08:17:34 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231

(I had a weird experience with 9046clint recently - an item was pulled at the last second (no other bidders) and never replied to my messages)


Another one. Nice bend in the card:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vtg-Wacky-Packages-Scream-sicle-ghost-ice-cream-card-/140457734842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b3eef2ba
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on October 22, 2010, 08:40:32 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231


Hey, at least it's on sale!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 22, 2010, 09:19:13 AM
Seriously...

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS7-SENIOR-POLYGRIPE-BGS-9-MINT-/220684014129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361cad231

(I had a weird experience with 9046clint recently - an item was pulled at the last second (no other bidders) and never replied to my messages)


One thing that really bugs me is someone that can't show enough respect to answer emails.  I understand sometimes people are busy, but most of the time they will respond when it something that helps them, but if not you get ignored.  Just hearing that makes me not want to buy anything from him, but I avoid his auctions anyway because his prices are so high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 27, 2010, 11:34:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-CLAMMY-SOAP-PSA-7-NM-Tough-/370359885678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563b2b5f6e

Clammy must make PSA's corporate head explode. As the seller notes, SUPER TOUGH in high PSA grades. Of course, that's because when the sticker is properly centered, it appears to be miscut. So there are two ways Clammy can appear: off-center, or miscut. Therefore, PSA will never give it an unqualified grade of 8 or better. In fact, it looks like there is one 8, I'd love to see it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on October 28, 2010, 09:41:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packs-CLAMMY-SOAP-PSA-7-NM-Tough-/370359885678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563b2b5f6e

Clammy must make PSA's corporate head explode. As the seller notes, SUPER TOUGH in high PSA grades. Of course, that's because when the sticker is properly centered, it appears to be miscut. So there are two ways Clammy can appear: off-center, or miscut. Therefore, PSA will never give it an unqualified grade of 8 or better. In fact, it looks like there is one 8, I'd love to see it!

This looks like the exact same card that I commented on back in May.  Here is a link to that post:

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg6182#msg6182

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 28, 2010, 09:44:44 AM
This looks like the exact same card that I commented on back in May.  Here is a link to that post:

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg6182#msg6182



Ha ha! Great minds think alike. I would like to see the unqualified PSA 8 that he implies exists. Maybe it's trimmed!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2010, 10:41:51 AM
One thing that really bugs me is someone that can't show enough respect to answer emails.  I understand sometimes people are busy, but most of the time they will respond when it something that helps them, but if not you get ignored.  Just hearing that makes me not want to buy anything from him, but I avoid his auctions anyway because his prices are so high.

I also find Clint is horrible about responding.  He made an offer one one of my ebay auctions so I sent him a note on it and I got no reply at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on October 28, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
I also find Clint is horrible about responding.  He made an offer one one of my ebay auctions so I sent him a note on it and I got no reply at all.

I had a couple issues 2 years ago with him,and also no reply about a set he had up a while back but i just talked to him the other day,he got back to me within' 12 hours and seemed willing to deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 28, 2010, 04:39:31 PM
I had a couple issues 2 years ago with him,and also no reply about a set he had up a while back but i just talked to him the other day,he got back to me within' 12 hours and seemed willing to deal.

I guess gray can be considered a color?  LOL!..................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 28, 2010, 04:53:39 PM
I guess gray can be considered a color?  LOL!..................
in natural light, that fill color Smokin' Joe used does appear greenish.
certainly not a true "color sketch card", but it is two-tone
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 28, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
in natural light, that fill color Smokin' Joe used does appear greenish.
certainly not a true "color sketch card", but it is two-tone

I also think all of them Joe did had that same technique.  It looks pretty cool that way.  Color though?  that's a stretch! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 02, 2010, 07:00:23 PM
$21.50? Seriously?
start digging out your grey border Play Doze
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 03, 2010, 05:46:30 AM
$21.50? Seriously?
start digging out your grey border Play Doze
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=120633744298&si=B0fMKBDfaUUjcn4NRz95y6fQpBc%253D&viewitem=#ht_1638wt_907)

I know a collector (not on the forum) who almost exclusively collected oddball error cards like this. He was interested in anything that was messed-up in production such as this card.  Apparently there are more collectors out there like this because it took more than one bidder to get a card like this up to $21.00!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 10, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
LOL,,,welcome back
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110610309472?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e36160

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 10, 2010, 08:41:28 PM
LOL,,,welcome back
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-Packages-sticker-Top-Slob-/110610309472?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e36160

They have some "really wonderful" stuff for sale, most of which seems to be "vintage".

I "really want" this item, which I was amazed is labeled "previously owned":
http://cgi.ebay.com/General-Electric-gold-coin-vintage-compactron-/110610309501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0e3617d



Saw another Grey border Play Doze go up (same seller I think). Wonder how many they have. Don't like it when they imply something is rare and have n more stashed in a bag without saying. Seems a tad deceptive imo.



Oh, and you could save up and buy this one instead. What a deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Sugar-Daffy-6th-Series-MT-NM-T-B-Sticker-/320613892671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa613c23f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2010, 09:35:50 PM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 10, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Oh, and you could save up and buy this one instead. What a deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Sugar-Daffy-6th-Series-MT-NM-T-B-Sticker-/320613892671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa613c23f
That is steep! And to top it off, this line in the description

"Sticker is in Mint to Near Mint condition with some blunting on lower left corner."

makes me think we might need to redefine what Mint to Near Mint really is.



Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
That is steep! And to top it off, this line in the description

"Sticker is in Mint to Near Mint condition with some blunting on lower left corner."

makes me think we might need to redefine what Mint to Near Mint really is.





Actually the picture looks pretty decent. I don't see any real issues other than price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2010, 05:51:19 AM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.

That's so true!  I remember not that many years ago that I go scroll through every page of Wacky auctions in about an hour.  Now it would take at least 5 times as long.  I don't get listing individual cheap cards because it's such a pain in the neck to take scans, list them, package & mail them, it doesn't seem to pay for a buck profit. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 11, 2010, 06:28:31 AM
i noticed even since i started buyin' them a few years ago that there is WAY more singles and crap to go thru.
it kinda sux when guys are filling whole pages putting up every card in ANS or even OLDS as singles when ya can buy a whole set for near nothing,,i even hate listing my old EX+ singles unless it's a desirable card..just a waste of time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 11, 2010, 02:25:32 PM
i noticed even since i started buyin' them a few years ago that there is WAY more singles and crap to go thru.
it kinda sux when guys are filling whole pages putting up every card in ANS or even OLDS as singles when ya can buy a whole set for near nothing,,i even hate listing my old EX+ singles unless it's a desirable card..just a waste of time

My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages". Going to have to get medieval with my custom saved search!

P.S. Just put "adam-12!" on my list of excluded sellers. Has 252 Wacky Package listings, mainly ANS and all appear to be using preset photos (like Greg's, etc., with Photoshop shadowing). $9.99 for 12 ANS stickers! What a deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 02:56:39 PM
My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages". Going to have to get medieval with my custom saved search!

P.S. Just put "adam-12!" on my list of excluded sellers. Has 252 Wacky Package listings, mainly ANS and all appear to be using preset photos (like Greg's, etc., with Photoshop shadowing). $9.99 for 12 ANS stickers! What a deal!

Thanks for the tip. I didn't know you could omit sellers. I know have a very good search engine that brought my count down to 4000 hits instead of 7000. Most are now vintage stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on November 11, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
Saw another Grey border Play Doze go up (same seller I think). Wonder how many they have. Don't like it when they imply something is rare and have n more stashed in a bag without saying. Seems a tad deceptive imo.

I saw that Matt Stock was saying on the other forum that he had about five of the silver Play-Doze stickers.  He was trying to play them up as a significant variation, comparing them to a Grime Heavy or a Spic-n-Span.  Personally I still think it is nothing more than a printing error
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
My experience too.

Just figured out how to filter searches by excluding seller ID's. Going to have to add that to my saved search. I am also annoyed by people putting XYZ "like Wacky Packages".


So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!
Do an advanced search and towards the bottom you can include or exclude any seller. It took me awhile to find it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 11, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
I saw that Matt Stock was saying on the other forum that he had about five of the silver Play-Doze stickers.  He was trying to play them up as a significant variation, comparing them to a Grime Heavy or a Spic-n-Span.  Personally I still think it is nothing more than a printing error

It is a printing error. I have 4 of them and the border looks more gray than silver
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 11, 2010, 08:11:13 PM
So how do you do that?  I would definitely take advantage of that feature!

It's definitely buried. I originally asked how it was done in my post because I couldn't figure it out, then I suddenly found it!

It's also quirky to update a search. Do an advanced search, add the terms and/or excluded sellers, etc., but before you do the search again you need to check "Save this search to my Ebay" near the top (awkward when you're updating excluded sellers). A popup appears, and if you want to replace an existing search you have to click the "replace search" link in that popup.

I do UI design work as part of my profession and their search UI is hideous.

I've been adding excluded search terms like "Mask Neg" and "tee shirt" to take care of phrases I don't want to see. Also "Flashback silver" and "Flashback 2 silver". Fun!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 15, 2010, 12:37:13 PM
I know what you guys are saying. I did a search for wacky packages today and got 7000 hits. This is obscene. People selling so many individual cards that are worth about $.15 and trying to get $3 for each. I just don't get it. I can understand trying to get people to buy the cards they need to complete their sets but this is getting crazy. Even back around 2005 when Wacky's were going for some big cash there were only about 800 auctions total. It was really easy to stroll through and find the cards you needed. Now it's like everyone is dumping everything trying to make a buck.
I usually limit my search to auctions only if I  do not have a lot of time. Sure you might miss out on a nice BIN deal every now and then, but 99% of all the looney auctions are overpriced BIN's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 15, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
It's definitely buried. I originally asked how it was done in my post because I couldn't figure it out, then I suddenly found it!

It's also quirky to update a search. Do an advanced search, add the terms and/or excluded sellers, etc., but before you do the search again you need to check "Save this search to my Ebay" near the top (awkward when you're updating excluded sellers). A popup appears, and if you want to replace an existing search you have to click the "replace search" link in that popup.

I do UI design work as part of my profession and their search UI is hideous.

I've been adding excluded search terms like "Mask Neg" and "tee shirt" to take care of phrases I don't want to see. Also "Flashback silver" and "Flashback 2 silver". Fun!

I eliminate a ton by typing in "-ans*" and "-flashback*".  That gets rid of anything that has ANS and flashback in the title.  So ANS1, ANS2, ANS3, etc. are all not included in the search.  The minus sign and the * are lifesavers!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 15, 2010, 12:45:18 PM
It is a printing error. I have 4 of them and the border looks more gray than silver

Just as an FYI it is definitely an error, but it's not a press density variance or else other titles would have the same issue.  For some reason that title seems to be missing the 5th unit black plate, which goes over the other border colors to get a strong dense black border without making the art too dark. 

Now that I have one and have evaluated it I think it's a legit variation, although more in-line with the "Oddie-Boy" variation.  It's in my "obscure variations" category. 

I call it the "Gray-Doze" border variation!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 18, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
Just as an FYI it is definitely an error, but it's not a press density variance or else other titles would have the same issue.  For some reason that title seems to be missing the 5th unit black plate, which goes over the other border colors to get a strong dense black border without making the art too dark.

Ok, at least now we know why they call him Doctor Popper.


Quote from: Dr Popper
I call it the "Gray-Doze" border variation!

DOH...
...ze!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on November 19, 2010, 06:06:11 AM

Another great deal.  Scoop it up fast before someone else buys it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Chewing-Gum-Crocked-Original-221-/110612147941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0ff6ee5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on November 19, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Another great deal.  Scoop it up fast before someone else buys it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Topps-Chewing-Gum-Crocked-Original-221-/110612147941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c0ff6ee5

LOL!! Wow, a single '82 album sticker (in not-too-great condition). Sweet deal!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 19, 2010, 08:45:14 PM
LOL!! Wow, a single '82 album sticker (in not-too-great condition). Sweet deal!
You have to admit it's got nice detail and only $75 WTF?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wackyone on November 19, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
You have to admit it's got nice detail and only $75 WTF?

That's cause it's an "orignal"..i like the quote,,i guess there must be alot of fakes out there..LOL
"I know that it is original as I have had it since 1980 when I got it with the chewing gum and saved it in my shoebox.  Well, it has come out for sale!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 08, 2010, 11:45:55 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32)

"It still overall looks to be in good condition."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 01:08:41 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200552746546?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1e00e32)

"It still overall looks to be in good condition."

lol -- I guess the sticker itself could be described that way, minus the entire border area.

Still, a bargain at $7.99 + $2.49 shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 08, 2010, 01:41:37 PM
What am I missing here on this eBay auction?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-SET-4-RARE-Binders-WOW-/320627968009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa6ea8809 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-SET-4-RARE-Binders-WOW-/320627968009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa6ea8809)

Are these binders filled with ANS7 gold border cards? Sketch cards? At these prices, I will need a binder to display my binder collection. I don't think I am going to dish out almost $500.00 and then use the durn things.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
Did I see these same binders or was it some kind of notebooks (four of them either way) that went for $200 recently?

Yeah, I just don't get it. No reason these are that valuable. I don't even think the "Wacky Packages" lettering is quite right. But hey, they were previously owned by a collector, so that must be worth something?!?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 08, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
What am I missing here on this eBay auction?

Are these binders filled with ANS7 gold border cards? Sketch cards? At these prices, I will need a binder to display my binder collection. I don't think I am going to dish out almost $500.00 and then use the durn things.
These were produced in fairly limited quantities about 10 years ago by Roxanne and ARE hard to come across, especially as a set. If memory serves, I think they sold new for around $50/set. I've never felt they were worth this kind of money (hundreds), but I've seen them sell for $200-$300 for a set...but not to me, lol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 08, 2010, 06:28:46 PM
These were produced in fairly limited quantities about 10 years ago by Roxanne and ARE hard to come across, especially as a set. If memory serves, I think they sold new for around $50/set. I've never felt they were worth this kind of money (hundreds), but I've seen them sell for $200-$300 for a set...but not to me, lol.

Sounds like it's more of an item that a collector of misc items would want, as opposed to a collector who would actually use them to store their cards in.  I guess you could do both but if I paid $300.00 or whatever for them I would want to keep them as nice as possible and not use actually them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 08, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Sounds like it's more of an item that a collector of misc items would want, as opposed to a collector who would actually use them to store their cards in.  I guess you could do both but if I paid $300.00 or whatever for them I would want to keep them as nice as possible and not use actually them.

I think they only have regular rings,not the D-ring style.Maybe someone can confirm this?
So I would not even want mine in them,if that's the case.
The last set of these sold for over $400 about 6 weeks ago or less.
I really like how the spines look when all lined up next to each other,very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 08, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 08, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

Yet I bet we could still name them all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 08, 2010, 10:55:08 PM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

That Cap'n Crud looks pack fresh from here  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 09, 2010, 02:55:07 AM
I think they only have regular rings,not the D-ring style.Maybe someone can confirm this?
So I would not even want mine in them,if that's the case.
The last set of these sold for over $400 about 6 weeks ago or less.
I really like how the spines look when all lined up next to each other,very nice indeed.


Yep, the Non-Sport Update Wacky Packages binders have round rings.  Too bad, since they are otherwise a really cool item, and display very nicely.  I like my set, but my Wackys didn't stay in them very long due to the fatal flaw of round rings.  I'm trying to figure out the actual year they were released - I remember locating the ad in NSU and scanning it for the old forum, so I know it's here somewhere......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 09, 2010, 05:36:53 AM
Best auction photo ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/oringal-wacky-pack-cards-pack-fresh-/160515196675?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f738703

Ha ha, I like the opening line too....................  1..cover ghoul mint condition,,has writing on back
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 09, 2010, 05:36:43 PM
Yep, the Non-Sport Update Wacky Packages binders have round rings.  Too bad, since they are otherwise a really cool item, and display very nicely.  I like my set, but my Wackys didn't stay in them very long due to the fatal flaw of round rings.  I'm trying to figure out the actual year they were released - I remember locating the ad in NSU and scanning it for the old forum, so I know it's here somewhere......

they came out in 1998/99 I want to say...  around there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 11, 2010, 07:11:18 AM

If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 11, 2010, 09:13:53 AM
If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................

That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 11, 2010, 09:18:13 AM
If anybody needs this one snag it quick before someone else does!.........................

Thatís too much. The comment ďNo fancy packagingĒ scares me a bit. I hope they remember to secure that $200 dollar sticker in a top loader or else it might become a floater ... subject to being clipped or damaged when the package is opened.

Commons run steep in Oshkosh. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 11, 2010, 11:04:07 AM
That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.

This could be a Shedd's or whiteback and it would still be too high!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on December 11, 2010, 12:51:02 PM
That's the rare Bustedfinger with the middle finger instead of the index finger. Topps quickly fixed the problem but a few of the offensive stickers are still floating around.

I heard it wasn't the middle finger, but "The Shocker"  - and that's what got Topps so excited.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 11, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
I thought this was the BustedFinger art until I looked more closely. Wow.

I think the "No fancy packaging" meant it didn't come in its wrapper or something.



lol -- the rare "middle finger" BustedFinger!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 10:09:23 AM
Dang, I must be sitting on a goldmine and didn't even know it....  slabbing swill and then treating them like rare gems just rubs me the wrong way.  Ebay is just polluted with it.  What a scam.

http://cgi.ebay.com/16-1980-80-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-PACKS-CARDS-PSA-9-MINT-/320629901683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa7080973


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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 12, 2010, 10:45:22 AM
....  slabbing swill and then treating them like rare gems just rubs me the wrong way.  Ebay is just polluted with it.
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 11:22:13 AM
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.

you are so right...  when you look at alot of these auctions, it's sportcard peddlers.  But, you can bet your bottom dollar they know how to research sport cards !  At least this guy didn't call them RARE in all caps like many of them do. I have no problem with folks not knowing what they have, but where's the logic in asking 225.00 then.  I say, just start it at a little higher than the slabbing/posting costing and let the market dictate.  That's just me I guess....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 11:26:46 AM
All that comes to my mind when I see these sorts of auctions is that the seller just doesn't have a clue as to what they're selling. They just don't bother to research anything.

Also, what do you guess goes through the mind of someone who sends cards to be slabbed before they even know what they are holding in their hands?  Wouldn't you want to do 5 minutes of research (which is all it would take nowadays online) first? Geez
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 12, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
These don't look legit to me (I don't see any Topps markings anywhere) -- thoughts? comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Eyeglass-Cases-SUPER-RARE-/270675659079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0586c947
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 12, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
These don't look legit to me (I don't see any Topps markings anywhere) -- thoughts? comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Eyeglass-Cases-SUPER-RARE-/270675659079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0586c947

it's gotta be one of the least appealing Wacky item I've even seen, legit or not.  They are an eyesore (sorry for the pun).  I wouldn't take them for any price, they are not worth a penny to me...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 08:55:19 AM

This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on December 14, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................

I was just going to post this as well!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 09:02:14 AM
I was just going to post this as well!

I beat you to it.  Here's another one priced right!.................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
I beat you to it.  Here's another one priced right!.................

I've been posting eBay pics like this as screen shots so when the thread gets old the pictures don't disappear from eBays files.  It's annoying going back several months later and reading posts where the links don't work anymore.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 14, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
...and $6 shipping!  This is because of "free listing" periods by ebay.  No cost to the sellers to list total crap but ebay doesn't realize it hurts them as I am tired of sifting through the crap so I am sure I am missing some real stuff to bid on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 14, 2010, 10:00:26 AM
...and $6 shipping!  This is because of "free listing" periods by ebay.  No cost to the sellers to list total crap but ebay doesn't realize it hurts them as I am tired of sifting through the crap so I am sure I am missing some real stuff to bid on.

It's not just the items in terrible condition but all of the worthless singles you have to sort through, mainly base set singles.  I used to be able to skim through every item a "wack* pack*" search yielded in less than an hour.  I don't know how long it would take now but I would guess 2-3X that amount. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 14, 2010, 10:12:23 AM
This has been a rare week for great opportunities!  Here's another one...................
You can make an offer! 8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 14, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
You can make an offer! 8)
I'd offer to place it in my garbage for them...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on December 15, 2010, 04:44:36 AM
I've been posting eBay pics like this as screen shots so when the thread gets old the pictures don't disappear from eBays files.  It's annoying going back several months later and reading posts where the links don't work anymore.   

That's something I've mentioned before about auction links, and the screen shots like you've got here really do help.  And, Plan9's in the art thread are truly creating an archive that will be available for future reference.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 19, 2010, 09:22:48 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 19, 2010, 11:02:59 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL


Yeah, but with FREE SHIPPING it's a steal!  ;D


... the "more than 10 available" cracks me up. More than 10 stickers? Exact sets like the one shown? All in great shape (including creases).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on December 19, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

Perhaps you didn't notice... "They all have the right trademark."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 19, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

I think and hope that some of these bizarre listings are people who honestly don't have a clue what their item is worth, and instead of doing the research they list it at a very high price thinking they can't go too wrong.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on December 19, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
I think and hope that some of these bizarre listings are people who honestly don't have a clue what their item is worth, and instead of doing the research they list it at a very high price thinking they can't go too wrong.

He knows they have the "right" trademark so he must be well trained in wacky knowledge  :^)
Between the online price guide and e-bay there should be no excuse for stupidity.
I think alot of these people are really nuts,but many also are just tryin' take advantage of newer collectors
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on December 20, 2010, 04:09:17 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190481862771&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I'm no expert on unopened packs by any stretch but, this seemed slightly overpriced. Please coorect me if I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190481862771&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I'm no expert on unopened packs by any stretch but, this seemed slightly overpriced. Please coorect me if I'm mistaken.

No, I don't think the price is that unreasonable. A high grade 11th yellow pack is worth at least $100, and every one of these
is graded 8.5 or 9. I think the problem is more that very few people would want 19 of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2010, 07:22:56 PM
This one's more unreasonable, as these 9ths are easily had in high grade for $20-25...

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-WACKY-PACKAGE-LOT-45-UNOPENED-WAX-PACKS-GAI-7-5-9-/140482370712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b566dc98 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-WACKY-PACKAGE-LOT-45-UNOPENED-WAX-PACKS-GAI-7-5-9-/140482370712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b566dc98)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on December 21, 2010, 11:41:04 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-topps-Wacky-Packages-/320632801745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa73449d1

this guy is off his nut...$275?..more then 10 available?..LOL

I think he left the  Bum Chex , Choke Wagon and Spit variation off camera....  that's the only way I can explain it ! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on December 22, 2010, 04:04:03 PM

This person's stuff always seems high (and often seems to be $500), but this one takes the cake (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-10-Wax-pack-and-Card_W0QQitemZ140425554101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200555341893%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5839038109699333803) imo.

I'd say more like $25? The pack doesn't seem to be in the greatest shape? Is it just because of the COA?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 01, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
This person's stuff always seems high (and often seems to be $500), but this one takes the cake (http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-10-Wax-pack-and-Card_W0QQitemZ140425554101QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200555341893%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5839038109699333803) imo.

I'd say more like $25? The pack doesn't seem to be in the greatest shape? Is it just because of the COA?

I have no idea why it would be that much. I had to reclick on your link to check if it was maybe Art, but no, just the pack and a card with COA. Ouch.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 01, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
I have no idea why it would be that much. I had to reclick on your link to check if it was maybe Art, but no, just the pack and a card with COA. Ouch.
it's originally from toppsvault, so it's gotta be worth way more than $500. that's a bargain!!   ;)
yeah, the majority of the stuff sold by toppsvault won't get you diddly-squat on the open market, but they sure pulled in a lot of $$ for topps when they first sold.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 01, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
it's originally from toppsvault, so it's gotta be worth way more than $500. that's a bargain!!   ;)
yeah, the majority of the stuff sold by toppsvault won't get you diddly-squat on the open market, but they sure pulled in a lot of $$ for topps when they first sold.

Just mmmmaaaybe if the orginal buyer got a tour of the inside of the Topps Vault, (with free round trip & lunch included) then it's worth the 5 Benjamins ya know.

How bout this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-TEST-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER_W0QQitemZ230561762955QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4712.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D290509941879%252B140425554101%252B190481862771%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6074053339598857927
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on January 02, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
One thing I really hate ( which we can usually get a laugh out of ) is what i call ebay "spamers". They put something out there and have no idea what it is actually worth! Some people put things on ebay for way to little droping the value of that item,while others put things insainly HIGH!! I dont know about you but sometimes that realy anoys me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 02, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Speaking of ebay tactics, I love when sellers add the word "wow" at the end of the description. Do they really think that when I read the word "wow" that I'll think I meant it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 02, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
Speaking of ebay tactics, I love when sellers add the word "wow" at the end of the description. Do they really think that when I read the word "wow" that I'll think I meant it?

I just saw the word "wow" twice in your post and knew it would be something fascinating and valuable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 02, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
One thing I really hate ( which we can usually get a laugh out of ) is what i call ebay "spamers". They put something out there and have no idea what it is actually worth! Some people put things on ebay for way to little droping the value of that item,while others put things insainly HIGH!! I dont know about you but sometimes that realy anoys me.

It doesn't annoy me because you can either get a really good bargan (if your the buyer of a lowly listed item). On the other hand, you could try to sell something high if you wanted to because the buyer should really educate themselves 1st on the average price of the particular item they are seeking. I don't list high to try to take advantage of ignorance, but I can see why people at least give it a go. So neither of it annoys me.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 03, 2011, 10:24:47 AM

How bout this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-TEST-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER_W0QQitemZ230561762955QQcategoryZ60240QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4712.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D290509941879%252B140425554101%252B190481862771%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6074053339598857927

That yellow Poster wrapper is definitely high but not absurdly so.  Those Test wrappers are a bitch!  I still need 2 of the 3 and I've been after them for several years.  I would pay $75.00 each for the two I need in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 03, 2011, 01:26:03 PM
RARE! WOW!! L@@K!!!


This is a really excellent reply.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 03, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
RARE! WOW!! L@@K!!!
I particularly like the items that are "Rare and Hard to find!"

versus just one of those, I guess.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
I particularly like the items that are "Rare and Hard to find!"

versus just one of those, I guess.  :^)

One of my Math professors used to put down a result and write: "True Fact:" and then say....it's better than that other kind.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 03, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
How about those items that are "hand signed". They're better than the foot signed stuff.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 04, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
How about those items that are "hand signed". They're better than the foot signed stuff.

 :] !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on January 10, 2011, 09:19:28 AM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on January 10, 2011, 09:53:11 AM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)

I have had similar experiences with Ted (very honest & good to deal with) over several years. I know he sells mostly on consignment. He may not be aware that Topps is still selling them, or he may have a consignor who asked him to sell something at a certain price. Many people don't know about shoptopps.com, and people will buy on ebay if they don't know about it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 10, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
I have bought many wackys from Ted Jeffrey over the years without any issues. I've found his customer service to be fantastic and his cards accurately graded. He seems like a really honest guy. That's why I am quite surprised that he's selling standard postcard sets for far more money than what they would cost someone purchasing directly from the Topps Online store. He's taking advantage of people's ignorance. His listing implies that the sets are no longer available...which is not true. He states: "These were only available at the Topps Online Store." Am I missing something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Postcard-Series-5-SET-5-w-bonus-TS7-/400186128405?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2cf3b815)

I have had many good buying experiences with them also. I would just tell him about it and give him the benefit of a doubt. It could be what he thinks because the Topps site is inconsistent with many items going on and off of availibility.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 10, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
I have had many good buying experiences with them also. I would just tell him about it and give him the benefit of a doubt. It could be what he thinks because the Topps site is inconsistent with many items going on and off of availibility.

I concur with Playbug. I've had only good experiences with him. To me it seems like he is most likely unaware that you can purchase them from Topps and/or is assuming that all Postcards are "limited edition".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 11, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
I concur with Playbug. I've had only good experiences with him. To me it seems like he is most likely unaware that you can purchase them from Topps and/or is assuming that all Postcards are "limited edition".

I agree, I don't get the feeling that he is that "up" on Wackys like we are so he probably isn't even aware of it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 11, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
I don't know if I have ever seen one of these sold and this one had 2 bidders:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lot-103-Wacky-Package-Stickers-/320638414191
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 11, 2011, 07:56:53 PM
I don't know if I have ever seen one of these sold and this one had 2 bidders:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Lot-103-Wacky-Package-Stickers-/320638414191

Darn I missed it!  :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 11, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
At least they saved them after peeling,,,I should have gone that route as a kid maybe i would have kept them
I only kept mine for a few years before sticking them on poster sheets...and everywhere else  :'(
About 10 years ago I found an old small tool box of mine with a bunch of series 9 stickers all over it..LOL
I should have put that on flea bay.. :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 12, 2011, 08:07:48 AM
The slight variations on the die-cut spacing on the vintage stickers sure become apparent when you see the sticker peeled off. Weird, eh?

Seems so odd to see them like that now...
Title: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 13, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
This decal has never been pulled off its original backing and appears to be in good condition. It sat in my closet for 35 years at the bottom of the barrel of my paper spreader. Don't miss this one and all of their other gems.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200565110613
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on January 13, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
This decal has never been pulled off its original backing and appears to be in good condition. It sat in my closet for 35 years at the bottom of the barrel of my paper spreader. Don't miss this one and all of their other gems.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/200565110613


"IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE." -- at least he's honest!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on January 13, 2011, 12:37:59 PM
 :o what a great deal!!! ( if it were only going for 2 cents)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 20, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Another Kook: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300517280151

I offered $20. Here's the counteroffer I got:
Counteroffer: $253.99
$20.00! Hahahaha! You really must have a great sense of humor! All The Best.

I, of course, declined this and said:
Hahaha. You're funnier than I am. You're obviously clueless on the value of these. Good luck getting anybody sane to pay what you're asking!!

Just irks me that these idiots sell stuff in a vacuum... >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 20, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
Another Kook: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300517280151

I offered $20. Here's the counteroffer I got:
Counteroffer: $253.99
$20.00! Hahahaha! You really must have a great sense of humor! All The Best.

I, of course, declined this and said:
Hahaha. You're funnier than I am. You're obviously clueless on the value of these. Good luck getting anybody sane to pay what you're asking!!

Just irks me that these idiots sell stuff in a vacuum... >(



right on,good 1  :great:
I saw this clown's lot when he put it up and thought "this guy is off his nut!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 20, 2011, 08:18:27 PM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 21, 2011, 09:35:40 AM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"

I would ask him what it was that he saw that made him think they are worth that much. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 21, 2011, 11:23:55 AM
I would ask him what it was that he saw that made him think they are worth that much.  

I declined and told him that I thought it was a fair offer considering the titles and condition.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on January 21, 2011, 03:34:55 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 21, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?

they still come up in a std. "wacky packages" search
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 21, 2011, 05:44:09 PM
I offered him $15.. :-\
here's his reply

"Wow! You have a very funny sense of humor! How about $15.00 plus $268.99 for shipping!"
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 21, 2011, 07:44:08 PM
The seller doesn't even have the wackys in the right category. They are in:  Collectibles > Trading Cards > Vintage (Pre-1980)
How'd you even find them?

Who searches by category? Just type in wacky packages or I use wack* pack*
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on January 21, 2011, 08:21:35 PM
The only reason that I ever search by category is to see if there are any newly listed items with low buy-it-now prices.  It takes a certain amount of time for new items to show up in keyword searches but they show up immediately if you search by category.

I keep hoping to find that Ratz or Cracked Animals with a $9.99 buy-it-now price!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 22, 2011, 04:31:53 AM
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL

Maybe he saw some Ludlows go high, and figured these must worth even more, since the backs aren't marked up with those silly camels.....  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 22, 2011, 07:25:59 AM
The only reason that I ever search by category is to see if there are any newly listed items with low buy-it-now prices.  It takes a certain amount of time for new items to show up in keyword searches but they show up immediately if you search by category.


Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 22, 2011, 07:29:21 AM
After a little more thought, I realized I probably low-balled him a little, but nowhere near as much as he is "high-balling" them. Come on, they're tan series 2...and not that nice, either.

That's a good point, Rob. I'd like to understand why he thinks these are worth 1/4 G. But, I'm afraid he'll just avoid answering, like he's avoiding reality in our offers. LOL

You're not that far off because of the condition of them.  His # is way too high. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on January 22, 2011, 01:49:20 PM
Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!

I serch the same way with -bandz and also -sonic to not get the Sonic Wacky Pack items!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2011, 05:32:55 PM
Really? I never heard that before.  I do all my searches as wack* pack* (-bandz lately for all the damn silly bands things) so I'll have to check that out!

I do my searches that way too. But do you really put the asterisk's in there too? I just type in wacky packages or wackys. I never heard of what Busted said about the items showing up on the specific catagory 1st before the general search, but it seems to make sense. But now the cat is out of the bag !  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Buz on January 22, 2011, 08:06:42 PM
I do my searches that way too. But do you really put the asterisk's in there too? I just type in wacky packages or wackys. I never heard of what Busted said about the items showing up on the specific catagory 1st before the general search, but it seems to make sense. But now the cat is out of the bag !  :o

I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 22, 2011, 09:20:47 PM
I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.
hmmm.i just don't see the need for these trix...i just tried a bunch of these vaiations and it don't matter
I do searches of packs and packages and I cover all catagory's,not just trading cards
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
hmmm.i just don't see the need for these trix...i just tried a bunch of these vaiations and it don't matter
I do searches of packs and packages and I cover all catagory's,not just trading cards

Right, that's what I do. Type into the top search box for all catagories, but I think it is just a time saver because appearently the asterisk covers all of the variables.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 23, 2011, 08:17:32 AM
I use the asterisks to catch when people call them "wacky packs" or "wackies". Better safe than sorry.

Me too, I missed a "wackie" item I needed once that sold for about a hundred dollars less than it was worth, and since then I use the * !!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on January 23, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
Me too, I missed a "wackie" item I needed once that sold for about a hundred dollars less than it was worth, and since then I use the * !!

That's why I use the * way to search too - I have gotten a few rare items for a relatively low price because of misspelling Wacky as Wackey.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on January 23, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
"wack* pack* -bandz" is the best way to search.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 23, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
I just don't get how using * helps?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 23, 2011, 05:29:26 PM
I just don't get how using * helps?
the * is a wild card, so any letter or combination of letters from that character onwards will all show up in a search.
if you search with "wacky", you will only find wacky
but if you search with "wack*", you will find
wacky
wackie
wackypack
wackey
etc., etc.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on January 23, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
the * is a wild card, so any letter or combination of letters from that character onwards will all show up in a search.
if you search with "wacky", you will only find wacky
but if you search with "wack*", you will find
wacky
wackie
wackypack
wackey
etc., etc.

ahh i see,,never knew about this wild card thing
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 24, 2011, 06:53:51 AM
ahh i see,,never knew about this wild card thing

That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on January 24, 2011, 07:54:23 AM
                                   {quoting author=Dr Popper link=topic=84}
That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   
           Tricks and Tips........... I am Trickz .......Colorful Posting
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 24, 2011, 05:48:55 PM
That's one of the benefits of being on a forum like this.  You pick up little tips from others!   

Good info.!!! I tried it for the first time today and see why you also need to add the -bandz thing. Eraser craze? - Definately a rubber band craze.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 25, 2011, 07:15:34 AM
Good info.!!! I tried it for the first time today and see why you also need to add the -bandz thing. Eraser craze? - Definately a rubber band craze.

I know, those darn bands have been mixing in with my searches for several months now.  Hopefully the craze dies off soon!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 25, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-WACKY-PACKS-PAUL-MAUL-WHITE-BACK-PSA-/200569060045?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb2d8facd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 25, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?


but how many are graded at a 1.5? population of 1, baby!! how rare is that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 25, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
this posting is too funny...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-re-stuck-rare-/330523173270?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4cf4b76196

he did enough homework to know about the cease and desist letters, but not enough to know that "restucks" are worthless? 

"But the sticker itself is in near mint condition"...  he says ! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 25, 2011, 06:43:06 PM
this posting is too funny...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-Choke-Wagon-re-stuck-rare-/330523173270?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4cf4b76196

he did enough homework to know about the cease and desist letters, but not enough to know that "restucks" are worthless? 

"But the sticker itself is in near mint condition"...  he says ! LOL
LOL, too funny but nonetheless, someone will buy this, will flip the sticker back around to stick it properly and somewhat loosely and will resell it....watch and see....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 26, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
Can someone please explain to me why one would bother sending this to PSA? Maybe so you know you are getting certified crap?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-WACKY-PACKS-PAUL-MAUL-WHITE-BACK-PSA-/200569060045?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb2d8facd


Is this a cloth sticker or something? Weird that it (apparently) has Mutts all over the back in a cloth-sticker-like fashion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 26, 2011, 12:05:35 PM
Is this a cloth sticker or something? Weird that it (apparently) has Mutts all over the back in a cloth-sticker-like fashion.

Someone's 1st series set must have been stacked tightly in a humid environment, so the diecut from Mutts left an image on Paul's back....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Choke_Wagon on January 26, 2011, 01:18:40 PM
So Paul actually got MAULED
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on January 28, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
So Paul actually got MAULED

DoH!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 01:34:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-WACKY-PACKAGES-14TH-SERIES-FULL-WAX-BOX-48-BACKS-/250768397910?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a62f61656 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-WACKY-PACKAGES-14TH-SERIES-FULL-WAX-BOX-48-BACKS-/250768397910?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a62f61656)

"Scarce High Number Series"...when it comes to unopened wax boxes, 14th series is certainly the most common (maybe tied for that honor with 10th series). Talk about intellectually dishonest and/or uninformed. I also like the use of the word "unsearched." It makes perfect sense for sports cards, but in this context makes no sense. What is there to search for??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2011, 02:01:43 PM
It's a box of 48 Backs !  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 04, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
"Scarce High Number Series"...when it comes to unopened wax boxes, 14th series is certainly the most common (maybe tied for that honor with 10th series). Talk about intellectually dishonest and/or uninformed. I also like the use of the word "unsearched." It makes perfect sense for sports cards, but in this context makes no sense. What is there to search for??
reads like they are just applying baseball card buzzwords to a box of wackys, not knowing any better or else trying to fool someone. and does "unseached" mean something different than "unsearched"?

And I truly love how they guarantee the box is unopened, and then include a picture of the box opened up...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 04, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
reads like they are just applying baseball card buzzwords to a box of wackys, not knowing any better or else trying to fool someone. and does "unseached" mean something different than "unsearched"?

And I truly love how they guarantee the box is unopened, and then include a picture of the box opened up...
If there is an exact equal  number of all ad variations then I would believe it is a box filled with its true original contents.  Many full boxes in the market are pieced together.  To some there is no difference between a box filled with 48 packs and a box with its original 48 packs, to others there is a big difference.  I sold two 10th boxes with pupsi showing on at least one pack with perfect pack collation(add ads equally represented) to Hal Steinbrenner(yes the Yankee Steinbrenner).  Those boxes came from a sports card dealer whose place was stocked top to bottom with unopen boxes of 1970s stuff(mostly sports cards).  In the miscellaneous pile of single 10th packs that he had that I still own, I have a pack with Pupsi showing.  I guess I should kill that pack some day and get the Pupsi graded but there is something cool about keeping it in its pack so I haven't been tempted to kill it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 04, 2011, 03:42:39 PM
I can't believe it sold for $1400.  That is crazy.  I would guess its true value is around $850 - $900.  I hope he doesn't plan on selling it anytime soon, I doubt there is anyone else willing to pay that much for it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 04, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
I can't believe it sold for $1400.  That is crazy.  I would guess its true value is around $850 - $900.  I hope he doesn't plan on selling it anytime soon, I doubt there is anyone else willing to pay that much for it.

I know who bought them,,,he'll be sending them all to psa is my guess
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
I know who bought them,,,he'll be sending them all to psa is my guess

To each his own, but it doesn't sound like a good buy to me. Let's say they are all PSA graded at 8 or better. Where is the market for 48 PSA graded 14th series packs? To be sold individually? Or do you mean cracking the packs and submitting the stickers to PSA? That's a tremendous crapshoot, they may all be warped for all we know. No matter how you slice it, even in the wacky heyday of the mid 2000's a 14th series box rarely sold for over $1000. This is way too high.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 04, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
To each his own, but it doesn't sound like a good buy to me. Let's say they are all PSA graded at 8 or better. Where is the market for 48 PSA graded 14th series packs? To be sold individually? Or do you mean cracking the packs and submitting the stickers to PSA? That's a tremendous crapshoot, they may all be warped for all we know. No matter how you slice it, even in the wacky heyday of the mid 2000's a 14th series box rarely sold for over $1000. This is way too high.


I would tend to agree but i'm sure he'll pull cards and send them in,,maybe keep a few packs as well
his PSA standing is quite high last time I looked and money is usually no object when it comes to taking a chance on finding possible prime pack fresh cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
I would tend to agree but i'm sure he'll pull cards and send them in,,maybe keep a few packs as well
his PSA standing is quite high last time I looked and money is usually no object when it comes to taking a chance on finding possible prime pack fresh cards.

With wackys, I've had one really positive experience with opening packs to get high quality stickers. Most of the time, even if the packs look very high grade, there are issues from severe tanning to warping to dinged corners to poor centering. Paying a lot for unopened wacky material to harvest high grade cards is very risky, much more so than with sports cards, where opening a rack pack is an almost sure score of structurally super-nice cards.

But best of luck to him!
 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Ducko on February 09, 2011, 11:47:17 AM
A bit steep for an Irish pack. I bought one of these last year for $15:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250770735712&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 12, 2011, 11:38:21 AM
Maybe it's the two lost wacky's or the reverse negatives driving the price up...

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 12, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
Maybe it's the two lost wacky's or the reverse negatives driving the price up...

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b

Wow, that seems way overpriced.  It's not really "driving the price up" though because there aren't any bids.  Probably just someone who doesn't have a clue what they are worth.  Zero feedback too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 13, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
here's a smokin' deal..on a bunch of useless swill  :^)

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 13, 2011, 10:53:39 AM
here's a smokin' deal..on a bunch of useless swill  :^)

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260736427787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb51a270b

...must have been some type of Freudian slip, this line in the description?! Are they serious?

there are many different serious dating to 1979
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 15, 2011, 09:22:38 AM
Opening bid is down to $300 after it didn't sell for $350 2x. BIN remains at $500

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260738154106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb5347e7a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 15, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
Opening bid is down to $300 after it didn't sell for $350 2x. BIN remains at $500

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-70s-present-day-mint-/260738154106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb5347e7a

 :o I say jump on it!,,could be rare card in there  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 15, 2011, 03:12:47 PM

A tad over-priced?....................


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Die-Cut-Cracked-Animals-PSA-6-/370484709644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56429c090c
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 15, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
A tad over-priced?....................
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 15, 2011, 08:18:04 PM
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...

I'd offer 5 Wacky Trucks for it.   ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 15, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
I'd say about double what it's worth, probably even more than double...
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 15, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 16, 2011, 02:56:42 AM
that must expain this,,i like the BIN of $1200 by use of a gift payment  :o

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120682623969&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123

Another award winning description.

That the white backs are so brown the seller makes a point of telling us they aren't tanbacks contrasts with the fact the seller had the sheet professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners. Good thing they have nice corners. Just don't turn them over and notice the white backs are brown. I'm not sure this set will satisfy any so called "completist" the seller is referring to.

Offered here is a very rare 1975 wacky packages complete series 13 WHITEBACK set.  There are only a few complete sets known to exist in the hobby.  Single cards from this set have sold for close to $200 each in past years.  This set was created from an uncut sheet I have had in my collection for years.  I had it professionally cut so the corners are very sharp(PSA 8 or higher)-like corners.  Unfortunately the uncut sheet wasn't well cared for by the owner before me so the back had faded/stained and had creases which are reflected in the scans provided here.  I 100% guarantee these are series 13 whitebacks and are of the hard whiteback stock even though many look beige.  Tanbacks are much flimsier stock and any wacky pack collector would know this.

This is the perfect set for the completist who wants all variations within the wacky packages run as you many never have the opportunity to get this set.  This can fill that need without having to spend the nearly $6000 that a higher grade set would command.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 16, 2011, 03:31:57 AM
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 16, 2011, 05:30:10 AM
Isn't the rule of thumb to put buy it nows on the high side for the purpose of soliciting offers to screw ebay out of fees?  I do this all the time.....

A seller can ask whatever they want as a strategy, but someone buying a Cracked will most likely do their research and realize how out of whack the price is, so it just makes them look a little foolish as a seller.     
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 09:39:05 AM
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 17, 2011, 10:55:54 AM
Not a nutty seller, but amusing nonetheless:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310296712192

It's a crease free gem! Why, certainly, you wouldn't want that border in the way to get all creased up, now, right?

I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
Maybe that's the case here.
It is. I wrote him to mention this fact and he responded with a thanks and that he knew nothing about them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 17, 2011, 02:30:15 PM
I saw those to.  Sometimes you get random sellers that aren't aware that the borders are missing.  Maybe that's the case here.
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 17, 2011, 03:13:16 PM
Yup, sports cards generally have their border. You would think these guys would at least do some research before selling. I do when I have to sell something that I don't know the value.

jezz man it's just a sticker,,the boarder don't matter,,,you guys are so picky  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 17, 2011, 04:02:41 PM
Ya i think Ern should have left this a full sheet,,these stickers are butt ugly and maybe worth $300 max as white backs are rare but still dout anyone would even pay that.
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 17, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?

True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 17, 2011, 05:40:17 PM
Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
IME?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on February 17, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)

Ya know, this seems like ridiculous behavior on Paypal's part, especially in light of their new "Pay Later" plan. I am getting really tired of being barraged by their "commercials" each time I log into eBay or Paypal. Talk about setting some one up for a fall later.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 17, 2011, 08:31:05 PM
True, you were honest Ernie. I was just in a crappy mood and wanted to be a dick. I wondered at the last minute when I clicked "post" if you were the seller.

I don't follow eBay anymore because Paypal cut me off back in 2002, when my days of bidding on auctions came to an end. I wonder how many people got cut off by Paypal because they spent too much cash with them. I believe a whimpy 2K was their cut-off a decade ago (when they cut me off, they did not allow me to spend more money until some type of new agreement was made). I wish I still had the e-mail from Paypal telling me I has exceeded their $2K spending "limit" and could no longer use them without a new contract. I've worked in Customer Service, and telling a good paying customer they can't spend cash was a very strange experience.

Ronnie Rocker's customer service beats the CRAP out of Paypal and eBay's customer service! IME (and yes, that's sad)
No problem dude.  I have spent years ripping off ebay and paypal of fees with gift transactions on paypal and private deals on ebay.  If you see an item that I had listed on ebay and it didn't sell but didn't get relisted, you can be pretty sure I sold it privately cutting ebay out of the deal.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 17, 2011, 09:53:08 PM
I was as honest as possible in my description.  What was award winning about it?
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 10:24:10 AM
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
Can you please stop breezing over series of posts before you make a comment?  Jean Nutty called it award winning.  I happened to be quoting someone else in my response but my question was obviously geared to all who were partaking in the discussion. You seem to be suggesting that nobody called the description "award winning" all while you made the extra effort to paraphrase the $300 post. Take the three milliseconds to go back and see that, Jean Nutty got it, somehow you missed it.  

These are legit 13th whitebacks hence they are rare, poor condition maybe but this doesn't change the definition of what they are.  The fronts and corners are in great shape, many of the backs are not.  If a completist wants all sets possible, they can spend the $3000-$5000 if they are lucky enough to find any 13th white sets for sale or they can buy my set.  IF they own my set, they will in fact own a 13th white set and hence it will complete that need. Is that really so difficult for you to understand?  Seems it is since you didn't even read the posts leading up to this correctly.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 10:26:56 AM
He never mentioned award winning. He is saying that the set is totally over valued by your price. Sure the white set is tough, these are not a good example of a white set because they aren't clean white backs. It is actually horrible. There are so stained, taped, and bent. They it can't really appeal to a collector. Its just the facts. That is my opinion and not to be taken as fact by any other collectors.
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on February 18, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
So you would chose a 13th white set with serious issues to the front of the stickers hence impacting the image over a set that is nearly perfect when viewing the front like mine.  That is your perrogative.  I think there are people out there who would differ.

We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 18, 2011, 11:59:16 AM
We all know what ya mean and to each is own,some people have to much money and if it's what they want they buy it or will contact you and work out a reasonalbe price.It's just an observation and we were having some fun,sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 18, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Brad's dismissal of the "award winning" comment was annoying but he often is in such a rush that he misses details.  I was not rubbed the wrong way in an angry sense, I merely presented the opposite point of view, sorry if my presenting the other point of view rubbed you the wrong way  :P

Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on February 19, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
Why would I go back and read old posts? You quoted Clubbed so that is what I read. This thread has about 300+ posts. I'm sure the hell not going to go back and read each one to see if someone else referred to your comments when you are not even responding to that particular post.
You don't need to read 300 posts but you sure could read all of the new posts in a thread especially if you are about to post a comment that suggests I made a reference to something that was never posted.  Your choices are to continue to rationalize your hurried and careless approach as i see it has carried over into other threads where others have called you out or you can slow down, take a breath and try to be a tad more thorough.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on February 28, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 01, 2011, 07:00:25 AM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2011, 07:32:27 AM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set.
Sorry, but I don't. Based on the auction title and description, it's obvious the seller never bothered to really figure out what they had and just put a random number on it. What they get is what they get; their fault. And, actually, the chances are they're thrilled they got $150 for a few little pieces of cardboard.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 01, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
That's a great price. It's hard to tell condition but at least a great starter set. The back of the one card is hard to tell if it's wrinkled and has some paper or something stuck to it.
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2011, 04:16:12 PM
If they all have that issue with the backing, I don't think this is much of a steal at all.

It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 01, 2011, 07:42:50 PM
It's very hard to see the condition from those pics. 
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on March 01, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
You really can't see damage of the one back shown?  Seems pretty clear to me there is damage.
He may have shown that one because it's the only one in questionable condition.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 02, 2011, 03:35:32 AM
Things that make you go hmmmm....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 02, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
As the description states...This is for real no joke.

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-1-148-cards-/270713750814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07cc051e
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 02, 2011, 08:53:01 AM
Things that make you go hmmmm....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380320978051&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
All I can say about that is that is one expensive binder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 02, 2011, 08:59:22 AM
As the description states...This is for real no joke.

http://cgi.ebay.com/wacky-packages-1-148-cards-/270713750814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f07cc051e
I can't argue that it's real, but I think the joke part is debatable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on March 08, 2011, 08:31:45 PM
I feel bad for the guy who sold this set. The buyer was very lucky.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-1970-1980s-/120691674643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19c8ce13
Looks like the seller welched and relisted the lot. I'd say the buyer let him off to easy as winning an ebay auction is a binding contract and this seller is listing an item that could go into litigation.  I would screw the seller if I were the buyer and spend the $15 to file small claims against him.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Package-Cards-w-Tan-back-stickys-/120694539996?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c19f486dc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 09, 2011, 08:37:45 AM
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 09, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
Apparently the seller realized the cards were were worth more although they're still misidentified as being from 1973 in the relisting. The buyer left negative feedback:

BUYER BEWARE Seller told me 'Buy It Now' price was wrong but I could 'pay extra'

Man, that stinks!  I wonder if eBay offers any assistance since they claim it is a legally binding contract, or is that just something they state to try to keep this sort of thing from happening.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 03, 2011, 07:46:04 AM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 03, 2011, 09:27:23 AM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

Haha, that's why there are sellers who ask crazy prices, because there are actually buyers out there who will pay it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 03, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
Hmmm, I made one of these variations myself when the label slid off and I accidentally slipped it back  on upside down. Little did I know I tripled the value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120706695926&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
FOUL?  only fools call it foul
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 29, 2011, 07:16:16 AM
Only $20 for a pile of garbage! You can't beat that deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-FIFTY-OPENED-BLUE-ENVELOPES-/160580268556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256354720c
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on April 29, 2011, 07:49:21 AM
Okay, before I stick my foot in my mouth... the eBay item linked below is just a home-made item(s), right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185 (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 29, 2011, 08:21:47 AM
Okay, before I stick my foot in my mouth... the eBay item linked below is just a home-made item(s), right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185 (http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Wacky-package-refrigerator-magnets-/110680363397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5105185)

Yep, seller is either clueless or worse.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on April 29, 2011, 11:07:29 AM
Only $20 for a pile of garbage! You can't beat that deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-FIFTY-OPENED-BLUE-ENVELOPES-/160580268556?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256354720c

Dude, that seller is the woman that buys all the color sketches...she's dumping her junk...i guess..times must be tough!! :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 29, 2011, 12:20:42 PM
These look like some pretty fair prices for OLDS1 sketches - NOT!

http://shop.ebay.com/collectingconcepts/m.html?_nkw=wacky+packages&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1311
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 30, 2011, 07:51:18 AM
These look like some pretty fair prices for OLDS1 sketches - NOT!

http://shop.ebay.com/collectingconcepts/m.html?_nkw=wacky+packages&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1311

Somebody wasted a lot of time listing those.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2011, 09:31:23 PM
Somebody wasted a lot of time listing those.
Don't all of these have "best offer" too?  How does that equate to waste of time?  I always list things high, take offers and most often screw ebay of fees by working out private deals.  Been doing it for years.  I hope this seller does the same.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 02, 2011, 05:57:15 AM
Don't all of these have "best offer" too?  How does that equate to waste of time?  I always list things high, take offers and most often screw ebay of fees by working out private deals.  Been doing it for years.  I hope this seller does the same.

That's true but this seller's prices are so far out of whack I doubt he'll get any offers.  If I see an item I want with a "or best offer" but the price is 5x market, I don't put an offer in because 99% of the time the seller is insulted by it. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 02, 2011, 08:14:40 AM
That's true but this seller's prices are so far out of whack I doubt he'll get any offers.  If I see an item I want with a "or best offer" but the price is 5x market, I don't put an offer in because 99% of the time the seller is insulted by it. 
however that 1% of the time it could be after he listed it for the 3rd 30 day segment and just wants them gone and you just happen to be in the right place at the right time
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Feetena on May 03, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 03, 2011, 03:22:17 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 


haha, that same seller has listed that exact card several times.  Makes you wonder.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2011, 05:30:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110682807750&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_500wt_922)

Before you bid, this is important: IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE. 

Looks like antiquefloyd has a lot of time on his hands to list something like this at all.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 03, 2011, 06:26:36 PM
UP FOR BID TODAY WE HAVE THIS ORIGINAL WACKY PACK CARD DUXIE.
True enough
CONDITION WISE THIS DECAL HAS NEVER BEEN PULLED OFF ITS ORIGINAL BACKING.
Though it should be
THE WHITE HAS SOME FADING TO IT. IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE.
But, then again, I believe in the Easter Bunny
THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER IS RIPPED.
Yes, it is
IT STILL OVERALL LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION.
Then you need to get your eyes fixed
IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS. THE SIZE IS 3.5" X 2.5".
And it never changed size.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.
Therein lies the problem.
SHIPPING TO CONTINENTAL USA ONLY.
Up yours, Hawaii and Alaska!
THANKS FOR LOOKING
Don't mention it.....no really, don't mention it, it's embarrassing that I bothered.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 04, 2011, 03:20:13 AM
 
UP FOR BID TODAY WE HAVE THIS ORIGINAL WACKY PACK CARD DUXIE.
True enough
CONDITION WISE THIS DECAL HAS NEVER BEEN PULLED OFF ITS ORIGINAL BACKING.
Though it should be
THE WHITE HAS SOME FADING TO IT. IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS A LITTLE WHITER THEN I BELIEVE IT TO REALLY BE.
But, then again, I believe in the Easter Bunny
THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER IS RIPPED.
Yes, it is
IT STILL OVERALL LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION.
Then you need to get your eyes fixed
IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS. THE SIZE IS 3.5" X 2.5".
And it never changed size.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.
Therein lies the problem.
SHIPPING TO CONTINENTAL USA ONLY.
Up yours, Hawaii and Alaska!
THANKS FOR LOOKING
Don't mention it.....no really, don't mention it, it's embarrassing that I bothered.
Too funny... plus at $2.49 shipping, he must package in a screw down for this precious item.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Goodbye^Kitty^ on May 04, 2011, 08:03:20 AM
Too funny... plus at $2.49 shipping, he must package in a screw down for this precious item.

That sure is wacky  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on May 10, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 11, 2011, 05:42:59 AM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234

Should we put in an offer for $15.00? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 11, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
Wow - such a reasonable price for this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360365998644?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e77cc234
I was going to post that too. absolutely amazing
"TELL ME THE LAST TIME YOU SEEN AN UN-CUT SHEET LIKE THIS?"
I have never, ever saw a sheet like that offered for $3K. It's true.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 11, 2011, 05:20:20 PM
Hey, if you do pay the full price you do get $60 back in EBay bucks!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 13, 2011, 06:31:35 AM
Talk about lazy and crazy...this seller just copied a Tedjeffrey description of a wacky puzzle, verbatim, onto every one of his wacky auctions...whether it's a puzzle, a sticker, whatever. It sure inspires confidence:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-DUMB-AND-CRAZY-SALT-NM-/290565287800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a70a6f78
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on May 13, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
                                      Check my feedback rating and bid with confidence
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 15, 2011, 11:35:29 AM
I feel bad for people who have ebay as their only source:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-1974-Wacky-Packages-10th-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-/150604959545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2310c14f39

I picked up 6 perfect packs just like this yesterday for $18 apiece, could have had 15 more. All people have to do is visit this forum.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: wormypackages on May 17, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
Hey, if you do pay the full price you do get $60 back in EBay bucks!

Wow - 50% off:
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1979-TOPPS-ULTRA-RARE-WACKY-PACK-UN-CUT-SHEET-/360367662010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e79623ba
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 24, 2011, 10:50:49 PM
Really?   

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-POSTER-COLOR-/220768722388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3366d75dd4
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on May 25, 2011, 03:31:57 PM
Really?   

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-POSTER-COLOR-/220768722388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3366d75dd4

But it's a "very rare collectors item".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on May 26, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
Really Really???


http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Old-School-2-Brand-New-Box-SEALED-/270751860476?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0a1186fc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on May 26, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Newbies make me laugh  :^)
Check out these 3 auctions and look at the number of bids and history on each card.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350464423551&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341680956&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341178338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN

WOW..he really wanted these  :o

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 27, 2011, 05:59:35 AM
Newbies make me laugh  :^)
Check out these 3 auctions and look at the number of bids and history on each card.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=350464423551&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341680956&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN
http://offer.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=380341178338&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:BIDN

WOW..he really wanted these  :o


Wow.  Maybe he's on to something though.  He's 3 for 3 with that technique! 

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 27, 2011, 06:04:53 AM
Wow.  Maybe he's on to something though.  He's 3 for 3 with that technique! 


I lost a few auctions to this guy before.  he bids in .01 cent increments.  It was always on 1967 series cards also.  I knew the seller of the batch that I lost.  After he wins he takes a couple of weeks to pay but he did pay.  If he is bidding on an auction that you want. DO NOT BID until the last second.  If you are selling make sure you let him know about your auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 27, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
I lost a few auctions to this guy before.  he bids in .01 cent increments.  It was always on 1967 series cards also.  I knew the seller of the batch that I lost.  After he wins he takes a couple of weeks to pay but he did pay.  If he is bidding on an auction that you want. DO NOT BID until the last second.  If you are selling make sure you let him know about your auction.

What am I missing? What's the sense of all the teeny tiny bids?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on May 27, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
What am I missing? What's the sense of all the teeny tiny bids?
wish I could figure that out I guess its good for the buyer, but as for him maybe no one explained to him how Ebay works?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 27, 2011, 05:20:06 PM
wish I could figure that out I guess its good for the buyer, but as for him maybe no one explained to him how Ebay works?

He probably just keeps upping his bid slightly until he reaches the highest bidder status.  Maybe he doesn't realize it won't automatically go to his max bid, so he thinks he saving money. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on May 27, 2011, 07:52:29 PM
He probably just keeps upping his bid slightly until he reaches the highest bidder status.  Maybe he doesn't realize it won't automatically go to his max bid, so he thinks he saving money. 

hence the term "newbie"  ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 31, 2011, 04:09:35 AM
Nice little markup on this item...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on May 31, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
Nice little markup on this item...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687825866&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_777wt_922)

But you get all three variations!  Seriously though, I guess that this represents the only three varieties of TRU blister packs that were made?  These are the only combinations that I ever saw in the store.  Were there any others that anyone knows of?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 31, 2011, 10:02:54 AM
But you get all three variations!  Seriously though, I guess that this represents the only three varieties of TRU blister packs that were made?  These are the only combinations that I ever saw in the store.  Were there any others that anyone knows of?

Those are the only three variations I encountered in the wild but probably only saw 12 or so total blisters at TRU.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 02, 2011, 07:26:14 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-SERIES-1-16-BOXES-/190540807390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d1dfcde


Only double what Greg is charging for these on his page.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 02, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
This struck me as odd and nuts in a way: 24 of them? Someone really liked that one!
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Cloth-Weakies-Stickers-/300453765325?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f470a0cd

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 05:50:37 AM
This struck me as odd and nuts in a way: 24 of them? Someone really liked that one!
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-Cloth-Weakies-Stickers-/300453765325?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f470a0cd


I've seen that auction several times over the past couple years.  it's really bizarre.  First of all who would want that many of the same title?  It's no wonder he can't sell them.  And how the heck did someone get so many of the same title?  It looks like a sheet of Weakies was cut-up!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 03, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTER-SERIES-1-16-BOXES-/190540807390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d1dfcde


Only double what Greg is charging for these on his page.
Are these sheets authorized reproductions of topps licensed images?  Turbo has a right to make a profit if he wants, just wondering if greg appreciates that they are being advertised on ebay to get Topps attention to them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 10:51:30 AM
Are these sheets authorized reproductions of topps licensed images?  Turbo has a right to make a profit if he wants, just wondering if greg appreciates that they are being advertised on ebay to get Topps attention to them.

I think Greg sold them to Shawn (Turbo).  I would assume Greg knows that he would sell them on ebay but I can't say for certain. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 03, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
I think Greg sold them to Shawn (Turbo).  I would assume Greg knows that he would sell them on ebay but I can't say for certain. 

I didn't even know about them until you posted about the auction. I'm sure there are quite a few collectors that don't know about those either.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2011, 02:22:48 PM
I didn't even know about them until you posted about the auction. I'm sure there are quite a few collectors that don't know about those either.

I did the printing of them, and I had 3 of them rolled up to take home with me, and when I got out of the car I tried to carry too much stuff in one trip and crimped the roll so all 3 are ruined.  Now I have none! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 06, 2011, 04:47:11 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 06, 2011, 05:32:03 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).
I think this seller sold it already a few weeks ago for 1200.  I believe this same charade with a mysterious newly created id whose first item for sale was a redache played out a year or so ago too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 06, 2011, 05:53:12 PM
Just was curious what others thought about this auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Band-Ache-Wacky-Packages-topps-sticker-red-ludlow-/150615606879?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231163c65f).

I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on June 06, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.

Whats really happening with this auction is that the seller is going to feel out the highest "Best Offer" prices and do a deal off e-bay.

Often time sellers post their goods for stupid high prices that no-body will buy, just to do their deals from the contact seller messages they receive from serious interest who are willing to pay what they seller might really consider.

My thoughts.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 06, 2011, 08:01:05 PM
I think his price is obviously insanely high, and even if it wasn't, does he actually think that someone would pay thousands of dollars to a seller with only 1 feedback?  Talk about risky.  It could easily be a back from a more common title stuck on it too.  You can't really see that from a small pic.
He just got his negative for welching on selling the bandache first time around.  If I were that buyer, I would take him to court as ebay auctions are binding contracts.  Ironically the person who got screwed uses "band-ache" as his ebay id which many people mistakenly think is me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 06, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
He just got his negative for welching on selling the bandache first time around.  If I were that buyer, I would take him to court as ebay auctions are binding contracts.  Ironically the person who got screwed uses "band-ache" as his ebay id which many people mistakenly think is me.

His next auction will probably be a one of a kind, 'never before seen' red ludlow cracked animals 1967 diecut unpunched and unstuck. He'll say Topps made one of these by mistake and thought they threw it away, but I pulled it out that trash and kept it until today, when I decided to put it up on e-bay.

Seriously, why would anyone fire all of their guns at once when they have 0 credibility on the feedback score? Iiii-yahy-yhiii
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on June 06, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
Sorry didn't pay attention to the zero feedback.

This clown is a Clown.

Whoever doesn't buy this can always item significantly not as described when the back is false.

You never know though. E-bay is so tight anymore , easily granting refunds. Why would you bother unless you had the goods.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 06, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
I think this seller sold it already a few weeks ago for 1200.  I believe this same charade with a mysterious newly created id whose first item for sale was a redache played out a year or so ago too.


2 things, how did this clown get his feedback knocked back to 0? And 2nd,  from the first auction--"there is a very small crease on the left top corner, the colors are vivid and bright, there is a small stain on the back of the sticker. 2nd auction--"itís in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips."

same card? or does this guy have a stack of them? or did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 07, 2011, 05:41:52 AM

 
did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?

LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 07, 2011, 01:37:17 PM

2 things, how did this clown get his feedback knocked back to 0? And 2nd,  from the first auction--"there is a very small crease on the left top corner, the colors are vivid and bright, there is a small stain on the back of the sticker. 2nd auction--"itís in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips."

same card? or does this guy have a stack of them? or did he steamroll it and use a tide stain stick?
As I already mentioned, he received a negative feedback for welching the first time he "sold" this redache so that brings his feedback to 0.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crazy Zoo Keeper on June 07, 2011, 10:04:36 PM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 08, 2011, 05:40:21 AM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?

Wow, that's solid circumstantial evidence that they are all fakes.  Well, buyer beware I guess.  

This card could be bought by an honest seller, and then years later end up on ebay looking like the real deal.  Not good for the hobby.  I'm going to question this guy about them. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 08, 2011, 05:42:42 AM
Nice catch. I didn't even notice he had other auctions up, but I did notice that the back of the Band-Ache just doesn't look right for a 1st series ludlow. I'm not enough of a ludlow expert to be sure, but it just looks like a 2nd ludlow back to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 08, 2011, 05:55:13 AM
I'm kind of wondering how he has both the front and back shown in what appears to be the same pic.  Looks like he's using the same back in all the scans with the different titles.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 08, 2011, 06:00:43 AM
Nice catch. I didn't even notice he had other auctions up, but I did notice that the back of the Band-Ache just doesn't look right for a 1st series ludlow. I'm not enough of a ludlow expert to be sure, but it just looks like a 2nd ludlow back to me.

After doing some research I retract this statement. My recollection was that the pinkish backs were mostly only 2nds, but that appears to be false.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 08, 2011, 07:15:27 AM
Where are the Wacky police?!?!?!  This is not a re-stick.  This loser has 4 Ludlow auctions all with the same red back pattern!!!  http://shop.ebay.com/retro_wackys_and_wheels/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This is horrible!!  And he has an offer on the Band-Ache.  Has anybody contacted this crook?
I wrote these off as fake when he first sold the Band-ache a couple of weeks ago.  This is probably just a new ebay id for an old crook in the hobby.  I am fairly certain one of the previous rounds of trying to sell fake luds, this person's first auction was also a red-ache and the story was that it was an estate find....really?  What are the odds of finding a red-ache in an estate find and that is your first ebay auction you have ever run?

Anyone have the seller's contact info?  I wrote to Rondell who won the Lavirus from him hoping to get some info.  Maybe it will turn out the seller was just lazy and reused the back of one title but everything still smells bad here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 09, 2011, 10:52:09 AM
I'm kind of wondering how he has both the front and back shown in what appears to be the same pic.  Looks like he's using the same back in all the scans with the different titles.

Here was his response to me when I questioned him about having the same backs.............

"What happened was when I scanned the image of the wacky's I did not think the backing would matter therefore I used the card for all of them so yes you are correct but I did post new and clearer images to fit this item so that is what you will be getting".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 09, 2011, 10:54:52 AM

And here was his response when I questioned why he had negative feedback and was listing it again................


"What happened was there was a discrepancy when I listed the item with the price and I tried to explain that to the buyer but he was disgruntled over my mistake when I listed it, people do make mistakes and I obviously did here but I am open to offers to, maybe I wont get 12,000 dollars for it but that doesn?t stop you from making an offer on something that you may want that I have. Thanks for your time to write to me".
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 09, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
Here was his response to me when I questioned him about having the same backs.............

"What happened was when I scanned the image of the wacky's I did not think the backing would matter therefore I used the card for all of them so yes you are correct but I did post new and clearer images to fit this item so that is what you will be getting".

So he didn't think it would matter if to the buyer if it was a "full camel" or not?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 09, 2011, 12:34:42 PM
So he didn't think it would matter if to the buyer if it was a "full camel" or not?

lol

At least the adhesive is still enacted.

. . . itís in near flawless condition with the adhesive still enacted on the back with no crease's or rips.  

Does that qualify as a Freudian slip?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on June 10, 2011, 09:31:40 PM
And here was his response when I questioned why he had negative feedback and was listing it again................


"What happened was there was a discrepancy when I listed the item with the price and I tried to explain that to the buyer but he was disgruntled over my mistake when I listed it, people do make mistakes and I obviously did here but I am open to offers to, maybe I wont get 12,000 dollars for it but that doesn?t stop you from making an offer on something that you may want that I have. Thanks for your time to write to me".
I traded emails with Rondell who won the Larvius lud and Rondell says the back of his lud is different than the scans to it is clear this seller was too lazy to scan the backs of the actual cards.  This doesn't change the fact that the seller welched on this ebay auction to sell the red-ache first time around and that it is very interesting that the first items a brand new ebayer has happens to be series 1 red ludlows.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 12, 2011, 07:09:30 AM

I can't say I've ever seen this before....................
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 12, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
That is too funny!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Plan 9 on June 12, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
I can't say I've ever seen this before....................
It's a "used" card? What did he use it for? Yikes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: hurricanes on June 12, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Interessting profit motive.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 14, 2011, 12:22:49 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 14, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292
so is this one the only known sealed copy, or is this the second one?
if it's the second, then it's just swill.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 14, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
Uh...would you take 10 redaches for it? :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330524746292


Who searches eBay for Beatles albums. They're on iTunes now...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: FourRoses on June 15, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
Perhaps some of these sellers are not nuts but extremely optimistic. Some of the prices certain individuals are hoping to get border on the line of insanity.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 11, 2011, 10:57:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKS-VINTAGE-1979-CARDS-COMPLETE-SET-MINTY-/190554111108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5de8fc84


Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on July 11, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKS-VINTAGE-1979-CARDS-COMPLETE-SET-MINTY-/190554111108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5de8fc84


Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?

Ah, more used stickers up for bid!

Uncle Billís Fishing Gear should probably stick to selling rubber worms.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 11, 2011, 04:47:35 PM
Where to begin? The $500 asking price for 27 re-issues? Or the description of three "complete" sets that seem to consist of 9 cards each?
But, that's three complete puzzles...and they DO look quite minty.... lol.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 11, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
But, that's three complete puzzles...and they DO look quite minty.... lol.

Oh, at least now I understand what he meant by complete sets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on July 13, 2011, 01:49:16 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on July 13, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed
Oh, and in case you forgot, the stickers are excellent, but the border that has the manufacturer's info on it is gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 13, 2011, 04:33:40 PM
Here are some nm stickers... just missing that pesky manufacturers border. Who needs that?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970S-WACKY-PACK-STICKERS-68-TOTAL-NM-NO-BORDER-/270781892077?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0bdbc5ed

There're not even NM. Look at the pictures. The cards are all bent. He must mean just the stickers are NM...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 13, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
There're not even NM. Look at the pictures. The cards are all bent. He must mean just the stickers are NM...LOL
man you guys are harsh. ;)
he says they are just "excellent condition" in the description.
I'm sure that the NM in the headline was just a typo.
just like that $49.99 starting price is surely a typo as well...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 21, 2011, 11:06:24 PM
All the shit she sells for pennys...and then theres this...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-SKETCH-SIMKO-GURGGLE-/160622709995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565dc0ceb
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 22, 2011, 06:41:45 AM
All the shit she sells for pennys...and then theres this...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-SKETCH-SIMKO-GURGGLE-/160622709995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2565dc0ceb

I think the days of $100.00 Olds 2 basic sketches are over for sure. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on July 24, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
Who searches eBay for Beatles albums. They're on iTunes now...LOL

Seen Beatles vinyl album in Best Buy recently.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
I didnt know where to put this, so i put it here.   This is off the hook. How the hell do these people do it? Cant there be a way to trip these people up? Better wrappers? A different way to pack them to mix up the packs? What The F#ck is going on here? Why are these people abale to get away with this? Hot packs? C'mon. This goes accross all sport and non-sport cards. This shit has got to stop!!!  I spend way to much money on this stuff the way it is, but now we have to get the picked over swill packs at most retail stores.  

The way i look at it i will prolly never buy a retail pack or box again. Or from any dealers that i dont personaly know. If these assholes are picking hot packs, then for sure they are grabbing the HOT BOXES.  BEWARE ALL BOXES ARE SUBJECT TOO!!


oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-PARALLEL-HOT-PACKS-/280714937507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415bea04a3
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 28, 2011, 06:25:10 PM
I didnt know where to put this, so i put it here.   This is off the hook. How the hell do these people do it? Cant there be a way to trip these people up? Better wrappers? A different way to pack them to mix up the packs? What The F#ck is going on here? Why are these people abale to get away with this? Hot packs? C'mon. This goes accross all sport and non-sport cards. This shit has got to stop!!!  I spend way to much money on this stuff the way it is, but now we have to get the picked over swill packs at most retail stores.  

The way i look at it i will prolly never buy a retail pack or box again. Or from any dealers that i dont personaly know. If these assholes are picking hot packs, then for sure they are grabbing the HOT BOXES.  BEWARE ALL BOXES ARE SUBJECT TOO!!

oops, forgot the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-PARALLEL-HOT-PACKS-/280714937507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415bea04a3

This same seller did this for series 7, and as far as I heard he was very accurate.  I don't know how he does it, but he has some sort of technique for it.


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 28, 2011, 07:08:33 PM
This same seller did this for series 7, and as far as I heard he was very accurate.  I don't know how he does it, but he has some sort of technique for it.
I just opened 6 boxes from the case I ordered of ANS8, After the 1st box, I started keeping track of the non-base cards in each pack and the order out of the box. There is a definite pattern and once I open the first two packs on the left side of the box, I believe I can accurately predict the non-base cards in each pack for the rest of that box. I was very successfull at telling which packs would have magnets, silver foils and tags using this order method only  (no weighing or using a magnet, etc.). There appear to be at least 3 but perhaps 4 box configurations in a case. You can tell which box configuration once you open the first two packs. Each case may be layed out with boxes in the same combination order, I can't say. I think I can also predict which two boxes in a case may have a sketch or gold border from the first two packs and where the sketch or gold border will be in the box.  I have opened 6 of the 8 boxes and have gotten 1 gold border and 1 sketch card. I know one case is a small sample to make these claims but I have a hunch it holds true across cases. More detail laters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 08:12:05 PM
I just opened 6 boxes from the case I ordered of ANS8, After the 1st box, I started keeping track of the non-base cards in each pack and the order out of the box. There is a definite pattern and once I open the first two packs on the left side of the box, I believe I can accurately predict the non-base cards in each pack for the rest of that box. I was very successfull at telling which packs would have magnets, silver foils and tags using this order method only  (no weighing or using a magnet, etc.). There appear to be at least 3 but perhaps 4 box configurations in a case. You can tell which box configuration once you open the first two packs. Each case may be layed out with boxes in the same combination order, I can't say. I think I can also predict which two boxes in a case may have a sketch or gold border from the first two packs and where the sketch or gold border will be in the box.  I have opened 6 of the 8 boxes and have gotten 1 gold border and 1 sketch card. I know one case is a small sample to make these claims but I have a hunch it holds true across cases. More detail laters.


This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 28, 2011, 08:20:15 PM

This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.

I just went through 2 cases of 8 and I can tell you right now there is no way to predict position. There are some packs with just a silver and some packs that have both a silver and a tag.
There are boxes that both cards parallel to each other have the same bonus and there are some boxes that are totally random. There is no consistency with both of my boxes. I started to keep track but after the second box it was completely random. I don't know how he does it because I have tried to molest a pack to see through it but you can't because it faces the front of the wrapper and you can't see through the blue. I have no idea how he does it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 28, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
I just went through 2 cases of 8 and I can tell you right now there is no way to predict position. There are some packs with just a silver and some packs that have both a silver and a tag.
There are boxes that both cards parallel to each other have the same bonus and there are some boxes that are totally random. There is no consistency with both of my boxes. I started to keep track but after the second box it was completely random. I don't know how he does it because I have tried to molest a pack to see through it but you can't because it faces the front of the wrapper and you can't see through the blue. I have no idea how he does it.
I Went ahead and opend the last two boxes a little while ago. I was able to predict the non-base cards in each pack after opening the first two wrappers so I think there is something to it... it least within the case I had. Could be there are different box configurations in different cases but it becomes mind boggling if someone planned it that way. I did have one box of the 8 that was somewhat different than the others and seemed random. I thought at first I had mixed the packs up somehow but was cautious on what I did after the first box. My big mistake was taking the boxes out of the case before marking them in some way because I do not know which box was where in the case. I will try to make more sense of what I scribbled down tomorrow and post some type of summary then.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 28, 2011, 08:48:31 PM

This must be from those first 2 packs in the first box. I suspected this last series, but now it is confirmed. People buy cases, figure out the placings, grab the good card packs/boxes....then sell the rest as unsearched, but really the good stuff is gone.

oops again: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-Bunch-Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-Packs-22-/180702607206?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a12b6f766

C'mon who sells 22 packs?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: CanadianClod on July 28, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
you guys are missing the obvious,,,it's all a scam and this guy has insider hookups.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on July 28, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
you guys are missing the obvious,,,it's all a scam and this guy has insider hookups.


He knows something. I can't figure it out if it's true. If he has 50 packs that means it would take you 11 boxes just to pull 50 silver sketches. That's cheaper than buying a case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 01:47:21 PM
He knows something. I can't figure it out if it's true. If he has 50 packs that means it would take you 11 boxes just to pull 50 silver sketches. That's cheaper than buying a case.

Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
The Pattern.... (or PATTERN #1)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Sliver border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Lenticular Tag
Pink border - Movie
repeat from top
-----------------------------------

Okay, hold with me... If I open a box there are two stacks of packs inside. The L-stack (left stack) and the R stack (right stack).  Both stacks repeat this same sequence but the top pack may start with any of the above six combinations shown
and then will follow the pattern from that point down (I will talk about the one box exception below).
   Some notes....
- There does not appear to be any correlation between the L-stack and R-stack (that is one stack does not start where the
   other stack leaves off... both stacks appear to be independent of one another, if that makes sense).
- My sketch card came in one of the Sliver border - Pack to the Future  packs as an extra card
- My gold border card came in one of the Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card.

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE
I did have one box that followed a different sequence than that above. Both stacks of packs in this box followed this sequence...
 ----------------------------------
EXCEPTION Pattern.... (or PATTERN #2)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
SILVER border - Lenticular Tag
repeat at top
-----------------------------------

CONCLUSIONS REACHED:
So there appears to be at least two patterns that the packs can be in, within a stack of packs in a box.
Since I only opened one case, I cannot tell if any boxes can have pattern 1 in one stack and pattern 2 in the other stack...
I did not find any that way. Perhaps there are other patterns but 14 of 16 stacks of packs I went through adhered to Pattern 1 and 2 of 16 stacks adhered to pattern 2. Interesting also that even the sketch and Gold border cards did not disrupt the patterns.  

A little later I will say more on how I think this lets you pick "hot packs" but I think it starts to become obvious.




 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 29, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
great work.
it looks like that 2nd pattern could have possibly just been caused by 2 pink cards getting stuck together and inserted into one pack and throwing things out of kilter. All the ordering of the inserts is the same, just shifted by 1.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 05:21:04 PM
great work.
it looks like that 2nd pattern could have possibly just been caused by 2 pink cards getting stuck together and inserted into one pack and throwing things out of kilter. All the ordering of the inserts is the same, just shifted by 1.
I wondered the same thing as well. Brad mentioned opening packs with SILVER BORDER and tags as well.
So, if you open the first two packs in a stack you will be able to tell where you are in the pattern sequence.
I don't know about others, but my sketch card was in a SILVER BORDER - Future pack as an extra card.

If this holds true most of the time, the Silver Border - Future packs are the "hot packs" and can be pulled
from the boxes without opening. I did not find any pack stacks where the Silver border pack was the first or 2nd
pack. In fact, most of the time, the silver border packs were the forth or fifth pack so you can feel somewhat
confident, when you open the first two packs, to determine where you are in the pattern, that one won't be a silver border (hot pack).

This is my  best guess as how they are pulling the hot-packs.

Since I had only the one case, I have no idea whether box position in a case makes a difference (like are sketch cards located in the same positioned box, etc.). Other than that, I don't see a way to try to find Gold-border hot packs.

Would enjoy hearing anyone else's observations when opening (non bonus) boxes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Crust on July 29, 2011, 06:27:03 PM
Okay, I looked at my notes I took while opening ANS8 packs yesterday and in the clear light of day, and the increased ability to generalize, it was even simpler than I thought. Seven of the Eight boxes in the case I received all followed a simple pattern in terms of the 2 non-base stickers in each pack. Let me describe the pattern then some words of clarification
----------------------------------
The Pattern.... (or PATTERN #1)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Sliver border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Lenticular Tag
Pink border - Movie
repeat from top
-----------------------------------

Okay, hold with me... If I open a box there are two stacks of packs inside. The L-stack (left stack) and the R stack (right stack).  Both stacks repeat this same sequence but the top pack may start with any of the above six combinations shown
and then will follow the pattern from that point down (I will talk about the one box exception below).
   Some notes....
- There does not appear to be any correlation between the L-stack and R-stack (that is one stack does not start where the
   other stack leaves off... both stacks appear to be independent of one another, if that makes sense).
- My sketch card came in one of the Sliver border - Pack to the Future  packs as an extra card
- My gold border card came in one of the Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card.

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE
I did have one box that followed a different sequence than that above. Both stacks of packs in this box followed this sequence...
 ----------------------------------
EXCEPTION Pattern.... (or PATTERN #2)
----------------------------------
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
Pink border - Magnet
Pink border - Movie
Pink border - Pack to the Future
SILVER border - Lenticular Tag
repeat at top
-----------------------------------

CONCLUSIONS REACHED:
So there appears to be at least two patterns that the packs can be in, within a stack of packs in a box.
Since I only opened one case, I cannot tell if any boxes can have pattern 1 in one stack and pattern 2 in the other stack...
I did not find any that way. Perhaps there are other patterns but 14 of 16 stacks of packs I went through adhered to Pattern 1 and 2 of 16 stacks adhered to pattern 2. Interesting also that even the sketch and Gold border cards did not disrupt the patterns.  

A little later I will say more on how I think this lets you pick "hot packs" but I think it starts to become obvious.




 


Science experiment WackyPack style! :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on July 29, 2011, 06:36:44 PM
I wondered the same thing as well. Brad mentioned opening packs with SILVER BORDER and tags as well.
So, if you open the first two packs in a stack you will be able to tell where you are in the pattern sequence.
I don't know about others, but my sketch card was in a SILVER BORDER - Future pack as an extra card.

If this holds true most of the time, the Silver Border - Future packs are the "hot packs" and can be pulled
from the boxes without opening. I did not find any pack stacks where the Silver border pack was the first or 2nd
pack. In fact, most of the time, the silver border packs were the forth or fifth pack so you can feel somewhat
confident, when you open the first two packs, to determine where you are in the pattern, that one won't be a silver border (hot pack).

This is my  best guess as how they are pulling the hot-packs.

Since I had but the one case, I have not idea whether box position in a case makes a difference (like are sketch cards located in the same positioned box, etc.). Other than that, I don't see a way to try to find Gold-border hot packs.

Would enjoy hearing anyone else's observations when opening (non bonus) boxes.

Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 29, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.



Or a sketch if it holds true, like mine, that sketches are in silver border packs. Haven't heard from anyone else who pulled a sketch yet, however.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 29, 2011, 09:48:19 PM
Great work Scot, the guy who had the system of hot packs didn't claim that they contained golds, right?  I thought that he was saying there would either be a silver or gold inside.



I do believe this guy offered both Gold and Sketch HOT packs for ANS 7.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on July 30, 2011, 03:21:18 AM
I do believe this guy offered both Glod and Sketch HOT packs for ANS 7.

No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on July 30, 2011, 05:24:07 AM
No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???

The seller allproductssoldhere  has the following phrasing on his/her listing:

"Each pack is Factory Sealed and Guaranteed to contain a FLASH FOIL Parallel card!
Look for Possible Gold Flash Foil cards!"

http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-HOT-PACKS-Gold-LOT-/270790745867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c62df0b (http://cgi.ebay.com/50x-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-FLASH-FOIL-HOT-PACKS-Gold-LOT-/270790745867?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0c62df0b)

Very noncommital verbage on the Gold foils. When openening the last two boxes, my son and I
were able to successfully pull what we thought the four packs contain silver foils would be and set to the side. We opened these last and had "questimated" successfully. The down side, its a bit like a magic trick... once you know how they do it, it removes the element of wonder.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on July 30, 2011, 11:18:01 AM
No I don't think so - i think he olny stated silver definitely and alluded to a gold..he never stated sketches???

Yes, he did offer a sketch pack. Of all the other hot packs, thats the one i remember well! Wondering how he did it. I believe he offered it at a buy it now for something like $350 or $400.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
BINGO!!!!!!             http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Sketch-Card-Hot-Pack-/230655903369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b429c689
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 03, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
BINGO!!!!!!             http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Sketch-Card-Hot-Pack-/230655903369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b429c689

How do these guys know? Couldn't you win it and say it didn't have a sketch?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 07:46:02 PM
How do these guys know? Couldn't you win it and say it didn't have a sketch?


Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 03, 2011, 08:06:58 PM

Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.

I've tried to look through the packs but you have to see through the front and it's all blue so you can't see through it. Maybe I need to use a brighter light. I've never tried it in a store.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 08:15:47 PM
I'm 4 for 4 on bag tags just by looking at the thicker packs.  That guy only sells hot packs, and i saw an unopened box of something for auction. How could anyone bid on it knowing he picks the good stuff out. This is what i was talking about a few posts back. These guys not only know the packs but the boxes also. Where is this guys swill??? The other packs from the HOT boxes???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 03, 2011, 08:24:32 PM
Check this guy out...http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-1-1-Artist-Sketch-TOM-BUNK-/320738424023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aad7ff4d7


Its only my opinion, but i believe that this guys other auctions for hot packs would only contain silver. This guy is picking the sketches out also.  HOW TOPPS??? HOW   This shit has got to stop!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 03, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
It's not something low-tech like the weight of a pack? Something that would differ on a sensitive digital scale (like fractions of a gram)?


Or perhaps if someone got to the gravity feed when they were still stacked (undisturbed) and they knew the magic fill pattern.

I for one (as I mentioned before) am a big fan of randomization, at least to the point of randomizing at the case level. This would prevent the problem.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 04, 2011, 12:58:11 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 04, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff

Guess not... its already $102.51 when I looked this morning at 6am Eastern.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 04, 2011, 05:54:55 AM
This is just off the cuff, but on topic as NUTS!  I know every auction has low bidders, but in the big picture does this clown really think he was going to get this sketch for $12.63?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-TOM-BUNK-SKETCH-CARD-/120757848063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1dba87ff

I've noticed some people put in small bids on stuff they like. This way they can follow the auction through the my bids section of eBay. You can just watch an auction but then you have to look at 2 places all the time so I suspect some people think this route is easier.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2011, 05:58:42 AM
I've noticed some people put in small bids on stuff they like. This way they can follow the auction through the my bids section of eBay. You can just watch an auction but then you have to look at 2 places all the time so I suspect some people think this route is easier.

I've also been inclined to put in a nominal bid on something I want just to help discourage the seller from doing a side deal off of ebay.  I know it's no guarantee but it does help with some sellers. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 04, 2011, 06:02:43 AM
I've also been inclined to put in a nominal bid on something I want just to help discourage the seller from doing a side deal off of ebay.  I know it's no guarantee but it does help with some sellers. 
The problem in doing that is the seller has no idea what your actual bid is. If he starts the auction at $.99 it will only show your bid of $.99 so he could pull it regardless.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2011, 06:14:31 AM
The problem in doing that is the seller has no idea what your actual bid is. If he starts the auction at $.99 it will only show your bid of $.99 so he could pull it regardless.

That's true but that isn't really my mindset on it.  I figure other sellers are like me and are more likely to pull down an auction if there are no bids on it.  I personally won't pull an auction down if there are bids on it, but I have done it occasionally if there are no bids.  At least that way if I get emails afterwards asking me what happened to the auction I can say that I didn't think there was much interest because there were no bids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 05, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Bonus-Sticker-Maximum-Security-/160630362227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256650d073
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 05, 2011, 02:53:56 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Bonus-Sticker-Maximum-Security-/160630362227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256650d073
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 05, 2011, 03:57:33 PM
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.
That 23 rated bidder sure wants to see this auction go high....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 05, 2011, 04:56:39 PM
I am going to track this auction thru the feedback stage to see if it is sham or if there really are people out there stupid enough to bid that high on a common card.

Maybe they think it's the whole box their getting?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: isearch on August 05, 2011, 09:48:42 PM
Sketches are easy to search for you just have to know what to look for. The golds are almost impossible but I hear there is a guy that may have them figured out. Most of the golds come in the same pack as a regular flash foil so that would make that the heavist pack besides magnets and tags.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 06, 2011, 07:36:52 AM
Sketches are easy to search for you just have to know what to look for. The golds are almost impossible but I hear there is a guy that may have them figured out. Most of the golds come in the same pack as a regular flash foil so that would make that the heavist pack besides magnets and tags.
Do tell... what do we have to look for?  I am now running under the guise of "If you can't beat them then join them"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 06, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
Isn't this pricing a tad ambitious?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER-21-/400233933198?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1872383998965108990

Last time I checked these wrappers are worth about $20 max. I guess calling it a 1st series wrapper (rather than a 2nd or 3rd, which it could just as easily be) makes it worth more.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 06, 2011, 09:02:37 AM
Isn't this pricing a tad ambitious?

Last time I checked these wrappers are worth about $20 max. I guess calling it a 1st series wrapper (rather than a 2nd or 3rd, which it could just as easily be) makes it worth more.
I saw that one and also his UK wrapper for $222.
ambitious is a good word for it.
he's willing to take offers though
http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-Wacky-Packages-UK-1st-Series-WAX-PACK-WRAPPER-nm-/400233935950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2fcd344e#ht_500wt_788
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Do tell... what do we have to look for?  I am now running under the guise of "If you can't beat them then join them"
Need to mow today but its drizzling here in Central Indiana so I had some time to kill.

I didn't weigh packs as I was opening them so did a little experiment. I have a digital postage meter (on the cheap end). Previously, I posted the repeating pattern of 6 packs that I found when opening my boxes. So I weighed the various pack combinations using just the cards, as I have opened all my packs. For each combination shown below, I weighed multiple times using different cards but results where consistant. So here were the results on a cheap postage meter in grams:

   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Magnet combination
   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Lenticular Tag combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination

So the real item of interest is that in the pack I opened with the sketch card... the sketch card was an additional card in one of the 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination. This combination weighs 18 grams.

Unless you were to run into some odd combination that wasn't planned , with something like two magnets in one pack,or 3 extra base cards (which I didn't when opening 8 boxes of packs),  
clearly the heaviest packs should contain a sketch card.  I can see how this helps if you are at home opening packs but is someone really going to take a scale into Walmart or Target? If so, they are more desperate than I.

My gold border card I opened came in one of the 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card. Weight was no different than the normal pack.

Conclusions:
* Sketch cards can be determined by pack weight

* Silver border, tags and magnets can be predicted by the pack content pattern if you know
 where you are at in the pattern (by openening the first two packs in a box stack).

* I have no idea how gold border cards can be predicted. I know where the one I found was in the pattern order. Perhaps a certain box in each case contains one? Don't know. I only have the 1 case/8 box data set to go by. If any benefactor would like to contribute more cases to my research, please feel free to contact me.   ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 06, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
Need to mow today but its drizzling here in Central Indiana so I had some time to kill.

I didn't weigh packs as I was opening them so did a little experiment. I have a digital postage meter (on the cheap end). Previously, I posted the repeating pattern of 6 packs that I found when opening my boxes. So I weighed the various pack combinations using just the cards, as I have opened all my packs. For each combination shown below, I weighed multiple times using different cards but results where consistant. So here were the results on a cheap postage meter in grams:

   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Magnet combination
   16 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination
   17 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Lenticular Tag combination
   15 grams = 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie combination

So the real item of interest is that in the pack I opened with the sketch card... the sketch card was an additional card in one of the 6 base cards - Sliver border - Pack to the Future combination. This combination weighs 18 grams.

Unless you were to run into some odd combination that wasn't planned , with something like two magnets in one pack,or 3 extra base cards (which I didn't when opening 8 boxes of packs),  
clearly the heaviest packs should contain a sketch card.  I can see how this helps if you are at home opening packs but is someone really going to take a scale into Walmart or Target? If so, they are more desperate than I.

My gold border card I opened came in one of the 6 base cards - Pink border - Movie packs and replaced the pink border card. Weight was no different than the normal pack.

Conclusions:
* Sketch cards can be determined by pack weight

* Silver border, tags and magnets can be predicted by the pack content pattern if you know
 where you are at in the pattern (by openening the first pack in a box stack).

* I have no idea how gold border cards can be predicted. I know where the one I found was in the pattern order. Perhaps a certain box in each case contains one? Don't know. I only have the 1 case/8 box data set to go by. If any benefactor would like to contribute more cases to my research, please feel free to contact me.   ;D


Good work detective!  I wonder if that's the technique that seller used for "hot" sketch packs.  I assumed he had a way to find both golds and sketches using the same technique, but maybe he weighs for the sketches and uses some other method for the golds/flashes.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2011, 07:47:08 PM
Good work detective!  I wonder if that's the technique that seller used for "hot" sketch packs.  I assumed he had a way to find both golds and sketches using the same technique, but maybe he weighs for the sketches and uses some other method for the golds/flashes.



I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 07, 2011, 05:27:28 AM
I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.

I think people looking for a quick profit are searching gravity feeds and pulling out one or two packs to buy and then take home for closer scrutiny.  I probably had zero chance of pulling a sketch out of any of the $200 worth of packs I bought, which annoys the hell out of me.

I don't want to buy individual boxes anymore, since case searchers sell whatever boxes are left in a case after they pull a sketch or gold.  I will no longer buy more than a pack or two just for fun from an open box in a store.  That leaves bonus boxes and blisters, and while I figure those are 'unsearched' at Target, I wouldn't assume that anymore on ebay.

I'm finding this hobby to be less and less fun thanks to all these super scarce inserts, including ANS golds and sketch cards, and some of the crazy stuff with postcard sketch cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 07, 2011, 08:00:30 AM
I guess what I don't understand is if I can tell what packs contain (or have a high probability of containing) a sketch card, why wouldn't I just open it. Am I betting I can make more money selling a speculative hot pack than selling a known sketch? Seems I would be someone with no interest in sketch cards for myself and am merely "rolling over" hot packs to make some quick big bucks. But one would have to buy cases and cases for this to be a valid strategy. I guess I don't get it.

If I remember the exchange of emails I had with the seller, he doesn't collect them and even know too much about them, so he's probably just taking the easiest route doing it that way.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on August 07, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
I'm finding this hobby to be less and less fun thanks to all these super scarce inserts, including ANS golds and sketch cards, and some of the crazy stuff with postcard sketch cards.

I've already been there for a while.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 07, 2011, 09:17:49 AM
I've already been there for a while.

I do still love the new Wackys themselves, but the collecting aspect has become a bummer for me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 07, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
Afraid I am with you guys. After ANS7, I am sitting on the sidelines for ANS8 and only collecting the cards I want after-the-fact.

If I see a bonus box at Wal-Mart or Target I will likely but one to get at least one pack "in the wild", but I'm not doing gravity feeds (I feel like they've been searched by expert thieves) and I'm completely ignoring the red/silver/gold borders and sketches this time around. Also for the first time with ANS, I am debating not collecting at least one set of the bonus cards -- will just have to wait and see.

Right now I am really liking the Pack to the Future (especially) and Go to the Movies subsets -- great gags and art (as per another thread), and had to pick up a Cap'n Crud motion card (and will probably get that subset).

The rest can wait for me this time.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 10, 2011, 11:39:50 PM
I hate it when people do this....generic listings. how do you ban sellers?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Make-Your-Own-8-10-Shot-Wheels-/260833488481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbae32e61


he put up tons of these. Grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 11, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
I hate it when people do this....generic listings. how do you ban sellers?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Make-Your-Own-8-10-Shot-Wheels-/260833488481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbae32e61


he put up tons of these. Grrrrrrrr

You can make a Saved Search with this kind of information in it.

When you do a search, look at the column on the left and go down to "Sellers". There is a small link that says "Specify Sellers...". This brings up a popup with options -- select the radio button that has the "Exclude"/"Include" dropdown. At that point you can select Exclude and do a comma-delimited list of sellers you want to exclude.

When you're done, be sure to Save Search (it's at the end of the line that describes what you are searching for). You can edit this later if you wish.

You can thus exclude words of items you aren't interested in too, for example if you aren't into "Proof" cards or "T-Shirts" or auctions that have "Parodies" (where they say "like Wackys"). That kind of thing.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 11, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
You can make a Saved Search with this kind of information in it.

When you do a search, look at the column on the left and go down to "Sellers". There is a small link that says "Specify Sellers...". This brings up a popup with options -- select the radio button that has the "Exclude"/"Include" dropdown. At that point you can select Exclude and do a comma-delimited list of sellers you want to exclude.

When you're done, be sure to Save Search (it's at the end of the line that describes what you are searching for). You can edit this later if you wish.

You can thus exclude words of items you aren't interested in too, for example if you aren't into "Proof" cards or "T-Shirts" or auctions that have "Parodies" (where they say "like Wackys"). That kind of thing.

Hope that helps!

Nice piece of info.  I always wondered if there was a way to do that!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Turbo on August 12, 2011, 09:39:37 AM

Your guess is as good as mine. Is there some way to question Topps about this whole thing? I mean its does directly involve Topps' sales. Why buy the cow when you can get the silver, gold and sketch milk for free?

Just to prove its hurting sales...went to another Target today, bought the 2 bonus boxes, counted 42 gravity feed packs and put them back, they were obviously picked over, all were thown back in the box.  I will NOT buy from a gravity feed unless they are all there. ( same thing happened at 1 wal-mart )

And about saying there was no sketch, well if he "knows" its in there, he KNOWS its in there.


I was at a target and there was only 39 packs left in the gravity feed and the 39 packs were thrown in and looked like someone searched them. I thought the person that searched the packs got the 8 silvers and the 9th pack was a gold or sketch. Well I bought the 39 packs anyways and I'm happy I did. I ended up with 6 silvers, 1 Mark Parisi sketch card and 1 #17 gold border. So whoever searched the packs and only bought 9 packs out of the feed only got 2 silvers. So if you see a gravity that doesn't have all the packs and looks like it was searched thru there still could be a gold or sketch or both. I was shocked that from 39 gravity packs that I pulled a sketch and a gold card.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 12, 2011, 12:54:26 PM

I was at a target and there was only 39 packs left in the gravity feed and the 39 packs were thrown in and looked like someone searched them. I thought the person that searched the packs got the 8 silvers and the 9th pack was a gold or sketch. Well I bought the 39 packs anyways and I'm happy I did. I ended up with 6 silvers, 1 Mark Parisi sketch card and 1 #17 gold border. So whoever searched the packs and only bought 9 packs out of the feed only got 2 silvers. So if you see a gravity that doesn't have all the packs and looks like it was searched thru there still could be a gold or sketch or both. I was shocked that from 39 gravity packs that I pulled a sketch and a gold card.



Wow, fantastic luck!  Were the cards moved around in the packs?  The ones I'm seeing have the back two cards slid up high, really to the very top edge of the pack, but separated, and the 6 base cards pushed down to the very bottom of the pack, all pretty much together.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 12, 2011, 01:06:58 PM
Wow, fantastic luck!  Were the cards moved around in the packs?  The ones I'm seeing have the back two cards slid up high, really to the very top edge of the pack, but separated, and the 6 base cards pushed down to the very bottom of the pack, all pretty much together.


This is also what i am seeing. It is much different than kids pulling packs out and shoving them back in. These have been tampered with, a few of the first packs i bought even had a fingernail mark on the pack. The first packs i bought from Wal-mart from the 24 pack feed, 6 packs were missing. There were NO silvers, NO magnets. Does'nt take Sherlock to shit on this one!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 12, 2011, 06:37:55 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 12, 2011, 07:27:16 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???

The thing is I don't think you can tell a gold from a silver through the wrapper. You just know it's a silver or a gold and the odds of it actually being a gold is a 1:1000
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 16, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Lets play a little game, which one of these doesnt belong?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-PLASTER-PEANUT-/220772021174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b3b6


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-GURGLE-LYNCH-/220772020230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b006


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-MISTER-FAULTY-/380333563986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588da5a052
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:14:51 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS-8-5-Sketch-Flash-Foil-HOT-PACK-GOLD-/320741675422?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aadb1919e


5 bucks a pack for what i would think as containing only silver...Hmmmm.


I do nothing with sports cards. In his listing he shows feedback for HOT packs he has sold in the past. Does anyone know how much "those" chase cards go for?  Would this guy REALLY give away a HOT Sketch/Gold pack???


Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..

PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:17:56 AM
The thing is I don't think you can tell a gold from a silver through the wrapper. You just know it's a silver or a gold and the odds of it actually being a gold is a 1:1000

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!! SO ITS KINDA MISLEADING TO WRITE - GOLD? SKETCH?

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT A SKETCH WILL RESIDE WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT BE - HAS THIS BEEN PROVEN?? CARDGARY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS ONE?

ANYONE PULL A SKETCH WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT RESIDE..NEXT TO A TAG OR MAGENT??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 06:20:58 AM
Lets play a little game, which one of these doesnt belong?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-PLASTER-PEANUT-/220772021174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b3b6


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-GURGLE-LYNCH-/220772020230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336709b006


http://cgi.ebay.com/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-2-SKETCH-CARD-MISTER-FAULTY-/380333563986?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588da5a052


I AM GONNA GUESS MR. FAULTY?? WHAT DID I WIN BOB??WHAT DID I WIN??

AND WHAT'S WITH THE PRIVATE LISTING CRAP...ITS SO EXCLUSIVE....CARDGARY IS SELLING THE SAME ONES FOR $3-$5...

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 16, 2011, 07:04:22 AM

Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..

PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...

I had one gold border in a case of 8 boxes.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 16, 2011, 07:12:00 AM
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!! SO ITS KINDA MISLEADING TO WRITE - GOLD? SKETCH?

HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT A SKETCH WILL RESIDE WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT BE - HAS THIS BEEN PROVEN?? CARDGARY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS ONE?

ANYONE PULL A SKETCH WHERE A GOLD OR SILVER MIGHT RESIDE..NEXT TO A TAG OR MAGENT??

- My sketch card came in one of the "Silver border card - Pack to the Future card" packs as an extra card

- My gold border card came in a pack in the sequence where a  "Pink border card - Movie card" pack
  should have been.  The gold bordered card  replaced the pink border card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on August 16, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
I had one gold border in a case of 8 boxes.

I got two gold borders. One from a hobby box and one from a gravity feed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 16, 2011, 11:13:54 AM

Yea right..what's the probability that one of those packs has a GOLD...they are probably all SILVER $3-$5 each now..

I noticed that know one that has bought these lots has given him ANY feedback...positive or negative...a little wierd..

LET'S TAKE A TALLY:

How many GOLDS have been found on the forum??

1. I FOUND ONE - OPENED LESS THAN 4 BOXES..



PLS FEEL FREE TO ADD...


so GOLD BORDERS FOUND IN:

1. Hobby Boxes - 8 box case
2. Gravity Feeds - Target

Any found in BONUS boxes or Blisters??

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: mallomartian on August 17, 2011, 06:52:14 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on August 17, 2011, 07:17:21 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114

I went to 5 Targets last weekend and only found 3 bonus boxes. Seems as though each store only gets two boxes and that's it. I think people are having a hard time finding them so they say f#Ę% it and buy them on ebay for higher dollar. I sold one for $16.99 (after the ebay and paypal fees I think I made 3 bucks off of it) and I have another one up for $24.99, the third one is in my collection, for now anyway. I have panicked in the past and bought bonus boxes high on ebay a few times myself....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Zenergizer on August 17, 2011, 07:24:31 AM
The Target I go to had only one, and seems to replenish its supply with one box at a time.

And the cards in there were somewhat curved, as if someone grabbed them with their fist
and "scrunched" them a bit.  Not too serious, but could be better.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 17, 2011, 07:38:00 AM
Why are Target bonus boxes selling for nearly $40.00??
Is someone trying to make this a ANS1 target box.
I just saw two in my target yesterday. maybe I should go grab them...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362395924?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f5d9114

I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: View Monster on August 17, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.

9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 17, 2011, 09:41:12 AM
9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.

Don't get it 'bigmuc' selling the non-ltd poster PC7 set = all postcards + poster for $1 + $5 S&H = How does he even make money on that...after ebay and paypal fees and listing fees...seems like he's selling it for free..even if he makes $1 on S&H - lot of work for nothing...crazy...

I have one of those posters for sale if any one needs one... ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 17, 2011, 10:19:53 AM
9046clint has 3 available for $39.97 with free shipping and cardgarys has 8 available at $39.97 with $5.95 shipping.

Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 17, 2011, 02:00:25 PM
I think they are somewhat tough to find but not nearly enough to justify that kind of price.  Also, if you are looking at one of Clint's auctions you need to take the price with a grain of salt.


And a shot of whisky.  Clints prices are off the hook.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 17, 2011, 02:42:40 PM
Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.

Initially I though these would be tough and bought one for $10. Now I believe I have about 10 extras. They are not scarce.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 23, 2011, 01:44:48 PM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 07:17:53 AM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304

He probably just wants to get rid of so many at the lower price and the others sell or keep or open up himself. I've seen this before with sellers listing the same item at a different price. It's either a mistake, a gimmick or just want to blow out some of the extra stock.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 08:00:12 AM
We all know 9046clint is NUTS, but Bi-Polar???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-HOBBY-BOX-/220819242770?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3369da3f12

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-ANS8-SEALED-RETAIL-BOX-/380357276420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f0f7304
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on August 24, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.

Are Hobby boxes worth more than Retail boxes?? for ANS8?? - and how about ANS7?? - the hobby box had a poster and the retail did not...is one hard to find than the other...anyone?? would think both are the same price...clint has ANS7 Hobby @ $49 and Retail @ $39 what's up with that??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Are Hobby boxes worth more than Retail boxes?? for ANS8?? - and how about ANS7?? - the hobby box had a poster and the retail did not...is one hard to find than the other...anyone?? would think both are the same price...clint has ANS7 Hobby @ $49 and Retail @ $39 what's up with that??

Maybe he's unaware that there is no difference this time around. Or it may be just what I said a few posts ago.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 24, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
One is a hobby box and the other is a retail box. I don't know why they would be different prices though.

They are different prices because the Hobby box costs $10.00 more from the dealers so he's just passing on the costs.  I think Topps messed up with that because with no poster it doesn't make sense to buy the Hobby boxes.  I bought a Hobby case and if I had known I would have made them all Retail.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
He probably just wants to get rid of so many at the lower price and the others sell or keep or open up himself. I've seen this before with sellers listing the same item at a different price. It's either a mistake, a gimmick or just want to blow out some of the extra stock.

I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 24, 2011, 03:52:39 PM
I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.

I wouldn't buy a box from him at either price for that very reason.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 24, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
I wouldn't buy a box from him at either price for that very reason.

I wouldnt buy any boxes from anyone selling packs or already opened sketches. I've been very lucky with blisters this time, just pulled a gold from a blister. That makes 1 sketch and 1 gold from 111 packs. 39 of which came from a Target suspect of being searched. I didnt get 1 chase from 39 packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Well I just won the B4 bonus for $3.00 + shipping so it can't be too rare!  I think it's a little bit of hype on the dealers part.
My target had 6 boxes.  About a 10 days ago. I left them there.  They are now gone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 24, 2011, 06:35:40 PM
My target had 6 boxes.  About a 10 days ago. I left them there.  They are now gone.

My Target had 6 bonus boxes as well.  My mom and I bought 2 to open together.  I've got to get back there to see if the others sold yet, and to look for some more bonus blisters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 07:05:30 PM
My Target had 6 bonus boxes as well.  My mom and I bought 2 to open together.  I've got to get back there to see if the others sold yet, and to look for some more bonus blisters.
Mine had like 5 or 6 bonus blisters a week ago.  I left them all behind as I had bought the three I needed a week before to get my B1-B3.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 24, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
I think the fear is he might have found a sketch or gold in a case and then decided to sell the other boxes from that same case.

Is this theory iron clad? That if you pull a sketch from a case - the rest of the boxes DEFINATELY do not have a sketch?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 07:24:05 PM
Is this theory iron clad? That if you pull a sketch from a case - the rest of the boxes DEFINATELY do not have a sketch?

Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 07:30:48 PM
Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 07:38:56 PM
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?

I do know the odds are against you to pull another one so why take the chance? Just sell the other boxes and move on. I would rather play the odds.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 24, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
I do know the odds are against you to pull another one so why take the chance? Just sell the other boxes and move on. I would rather play the odds.
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.

OK genius, why don't you take a poll to see how many people will follow your rational compared to mine. I don't think you have much of a chance with your collation theory. People don't want to take a bad bet on these. The house is against you. Your obviously not much of a poker player are you. No one would take those odds even though there is a chance the collation could be off by Topps.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 24, 2011, 09:33:55 PM
It is the same odds as the first pack clown.  Why open ANY packs?  Your claim that the contents of one pack impact another without consideration for some knowledge about COLLATION is really comical.
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 24, 2011, 11:46:51 PM
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.


I think although the collation isn't perfect it's probably a pretty high percentage.  I did pull 2 golds from the same case but I think that was an exception to the rule.  These machines that collate have become very sophisticated and accurate.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 25, 2011, 07:12:54 AM
I think although the collation isn't perfect it's probably a pretty high percentage.  I did pull 2 golds from the same case but I think that was an exception to the rule.  These machines that collate have become very sophisticated and accurate.


So basically, what we are theorizing here is that there is a definate predictable "spot" where the machines will put the sketches/golds and we can predict this because of the newer updated technology within the machining process. I guess the only way to tell would be to litterally place each card in order as you open each pack in order, then after many, many packs or even cases, see if there is a pattern.

If this is true, and according to some "hot pack" sellers on evilbay it is, then we should tell Topps about it so that they can set up their super advanced machinery to be more random with their insertions. I just would like to see this predictability come to an end if it is true.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 25, 2011, 08:23:51 AM
So basically, what we are theorizing here is that there is a definate predictable "spot" where the machines will put the sketches/golds and we can predict this because of the newer updated technology within the machining process. I guess the only way to tell would be to litterally place each card in order as you open each pack in order, then after many, many packs or even cases, see if there is a pattern.

If this is true, and according to some "hot pack" sellers on evilbay it is, then we should tell Topps about it so that they can set up their super advanced machinery to be more random with their insertions. I just would like to see this predictability come to an end if it is true.

When you are opening pack after pack in sequence the silvers are pretty much every 6th pack, so that right there is evidence that they are set to go into an insertion pattern, and it's fairly accurate.  I personally would like to see more randomization, not only because it would deter people from selling "dud" inventory, but it would make it a little more exciting opening packs. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
When you are opening pack after pack in sequence the silvers are pretty much every 6th pack, so that right there is evidence that they are set to go into an insertion pattern, and it's fairly accurate.  I personally would like to see more randomization, not only because it would deter people from selling "dud" inventory, but it would make it a little more exciting opening packs. 
For sure, when you are going through a box and know pretty much what to expect each pack is a little dull. You do know to perk up when you come to what should be a silver border pack. Unless someone has found otherwise, I think the sketches are usually in these packs.

Randomizing seems like it would be a bit of a daunting task in that people collect in different ways. Some expect the collation (odds of finding certain chase items) to hold true within a box (hobby, retail, gravity). While others would expect the collation to hold true across a case. Do you randomize within a box so you odds are consistant within each box, just the pack order randomized?

In all boxes today, there appears to be a 6 pack rotation used in terms of content. How they determine where the golds
and sketches get inserted into this rotation and at what intervals is certainly unknown to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 25, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
For sure, when you are going through a box and know pretty much what to expect each pack is a little dull. You do know to perk up when you come to what should be a silver border pack. Unless someone has found otherwise, I think the sketches are usually in these packs.

Randomizing seems like it would be a bit of a daunting task in that people collect in different ways. Some expect the collation (odds of finding certain chase items) to hold true within a box (hobby, retail, gravity). While others would expect the collation to hold true across a case. Do you randomize within a box so you odds are consistant within each box, just the pack order randomized?

In all boxes today, there appears to be a 6 pack rotation used in terms of content. How they determine where the golds
and sketches get inserted into this rotation and at what intervals is certainly unknown to me.

They should randomize the packs. As long as they truly are putting in the inserts at the stated odds, then really there should be no worries. Too bad if you didn't make the odd's or if you beat the odd's - at least no one would be able to "crack the code" and make things predictable.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 10:04:56 AM
The case I got with 8 boxes were all random. I kept track of the first box and card positions but then the second box was totally different. Along with the next one and so forth. I don't think you can say every box will have a silver 6 packs down.
I did connect with a pack searcher on ebay. We exchanged a few emails and he told me how they do it. They are very good at sliding the cards and looking through the wrapper. He said you can do them pretty quickly. The thing to do is take a few packs home and practice. There are also websites for pack searchers and forums. Pack searching doesn't sound like it's going away any time soon. It's pretty sad....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
I agree that each consecutive coin toss, in a pure chance situation, is not dependant on the previous coin toss. Opening a box of ANS8 wrappers however, is not a pure chance environment. In fact, just the opposite. There is a definite planned design and/or manipulation when packaging
to the point where you can accurately predict what type of chase cards will be in the next pack you open (at least in retail boxes).

In the specific case of gold border and sketch cards, I don't have much emperical data except my own and two others that I know who opened 1 case of ANS8. In all three instances, each case produced one gold border and one sketch card. I can't claim to know how Topps inserts these items into the packs that go into the various boxes and blisters but I do believe there is some
plan at work.

I don't think any of us believe that they package all the wrappers, mix them all up then place into boxes and blisters. That would come closest to the coin toss scenario in terms of chance. It would be extemely enlightening to know the process behind the insertion of these low quantity items into the packs though.



Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
The case I got with 8 boxes were all random. I kept track of the first box and card positions but then the second box was totally different. Along with the next one and so forth. I don't think you can say every box will have a silver 6 packs down.
I did connect with a pack searcher on ebay. We exchanged a few emails and he told me how they do it. They are very good at sliding the cards and looking through the wrapper. He said you can do them pretty quickly. The thing to do is take a few packs home and practice. There are also websites for pack searchers and forums. Pack searching doesn't sound like it's going away any time soon. It's pretty sad....

I found that the 6 pack sequence could start at any point in the sequence with the top pack in a box, but then proceeded as expected. Furthermore, the two sides (stacks) in a box were unrelated in terms of where the sequence ended in one stack and begins in the other. You can't say the 6th pack down will have a silver. You can say that each 7th pack in a stack will contain a silver after the first one that contains a silver. In my previous posts, thats why I indicated once you know where you are in the sequence (which requires you open two consecutive packs), you know what follows.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: BumChex on August 24, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Just look at the odds. It's highly unlikely.

Bandaches response:
Nonsense.  Unless it is proven that the collation is such that each case only gets one Gold, your suggesting that a previous random event impacts a future event is nonsense.  Are you the type who believes the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads immediately after flipping a coin and getting heads is less than 50/50?

For those who have completely lost track of the discussion I am having with Brad, see the above.......Brad makes no mention of his concern about predictable collation, he purely claimed that opening another pack was a bad idea due to the odds.....odds which were really no different than opening any other pack.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.

I'm stating the odds of finding 2 sketches in a case are very slim so why play those type of odds. Scot already pointed out 3 cases that had only one gold and one sketch. Why would you think there would be another one in the same case? That is what I'm getting at. Find the gold and sketch and sell the other boxes in the case. Nothing more to it then that!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 25, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
I'm stating the odds of finding 2 sketches in a case are very slim so why play those type of odds. Scot already pointed out 3 cases that had only one gold and one sketch. Why would you think there would be another one in the same case? That is what I'm getting at. Find the gold and sketch and sell the other boxes in the case. Nothing more to it then that!
This is ONLY because of predictable collation and NOT because of odds!  Not sure why you are finding that so hard to understand.  The funny part is that if Topps found a way to truly randomize collation, you would still believe what you are saying that once you pull a gold, there is more likely a gold in a box from another case than the case you just pulled a box and that would be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 25, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Did you miss my first post???  BRad specifically said his assersion was purely based on ODDS, I called this out specifically stating that if he is not considering lack of random collation and that his ridiculous statement was based on odds, he is completely wrong.  I totally agree with what you are saying here, it just doesn't have anything to do with Brad's actual statement.

I think I did miss your point upon first reading.

I shouldn't put words in Brad's mouth but I read his use of the terms "odds" as being the odds of getting each chase card type that are listed on the wrappers/blister backs. I see now where you were coming from and understand the point you were making.

I thought Brad was indicating that Topps says the odds of getting a sketch card is 1 in 973 packs. A case contains 192 packs so if you are opening a case and get a sketch in the first box, there is little hope of getting another sketch in this case given we know that the boxes are not randomly packed.

I think there is some truth in this and guess this is were some unopened boxes on eBay come from. They are the unopened boxes left after someone has hit the jackpot  from a case with a sketch card and they stop opening at that point. This is why I would avoid buying boxes on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
This is ONLY because of predictable collation and NOT because of odds!  Not sure why you are finding that so hard to understand.  The funny part is that if Topps found a way to truly randomize collation, you would still believe what you are saying that once you pull a gold, there is more likely a gold in a box from another case than the case you just pulled a box and that would be completely wrong.


I also predict the odds of this conversation continuing is NONE!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on August 25, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
I think I did miss your point upon first reading.

I shouldn't put words in Brad's mouth but I read his use of the terms "odds" as being the odds of getting each chase card type that are listed on the wrappers/blister backs. I see now where you were coming from and understand the point you were making.

I thought Brad was indicating that Topps says the odds of getting a sketch card is 1 in 973 packs. A case contains 192 packs so if you are opening a case and get a sketch in the first box, there is little hope of getting another sketch in this case given we know that the boxes are not randomly packed.

I think there is some truth in this and guess this is were some unopened boxes on eBay come from. They are the unopened boxes left after someone has hit the jackpot  from a case with a sketch card and they stop opening at that point. This is why I would avoid buying boxes on eBay.

That is exactly what I have been trying to say. I didn't mean actual odds. I meant the odds of you pulling 2 sketch cards out of a case are slim so sell off the other boxes. That is why I said that the guys selling boxes on ebay are also selling sketches. It's easy to put 2 and 2 together.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 25, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
I've been wishing the packs were truly randomized since ANS7. After buying several boxes from Topps and seeing the same patterns appearing over and over it is very clear there are patterns.

If dealers buy cases and pull sketches/golds I would bet the next box in that same case does not contain either. So why not sell that box for a little cheaper and look like you're giving someone a deal?

If the packs were truly random it would be much more interesting to buy packs imo.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 27, 2011, 11:57:48 AM
If the packs were truly random it would be much more interesting to buy packs imo.

This is all that I was trying to say and agree with. We need to call Mythbusters about the truth of pack collation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 27, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
This is all that I was trying to say and agree with. We need to call Mythbusters about the truth of pack collation.
Have any of the card distributors(Fleer, Donrus, Topps, and all of the makers of today) ever found a way to somewhat randomize their packing?  There is no such thing as true randomness but if they could switch patterns throughout their distribution, it might help.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 27, 2011, 12:30:03 PM
Have any of the card distributors(Fleer, Donrus, Topps, and all of the makers of today) ever found a way to somewhat randomize their packing?  There is no such thing as true randomness but if they could switch patterns throughout their distribution, it might help.

I think the new insertion equipment the production plants Topps uses use these days are all run by computer programming, so they should be able to mix and match the collation to any rate they want, and they would be able to alter the ratio on the fly too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on August 27, 2011, 12:52:19 PM
I think the new insertion equipment the production plants Topps uses use these days are all run by computer programming, so they should be able to mix and match the collation to any rate they want, and they would be able to alter the ratio on the fly too.
I wonder if that would hurt sales as it seems the major dealers are pack searchers and if that ability was taken from them, they would buy less but collectors would probably buy more.  Who are the biggest buyers?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 28, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
I wonder if that would hurt sales as it seems the major dealers are pack searchers and if that ability was taken from them, they would buy less but collectors would probably buy more.  Who are the biggest buyers?

Good question. In the long run it think it would all work out and no one would feel that there is any unfairness going on. As it stands now, you might have the "code crackers" buying more just for that reason - if they didn't crack it, they would buy less - but everyone else would probably buy more knowing that their odds are better. I think it would even out in the long run.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 28, 2011, 06:37:46 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 28, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db

That better be a mistake! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 28, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
That better be a mistake! 
but it's true - no where else will you find such a deal!!!!
and for very good reason, too
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 28, 2011, 09:31:14 PM
WOW, better add two to the cart at this price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-CEREAL-KILLERS-ZOMBA-CRUNCH-MAGNET-/140597680091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bc4657db

I can't believe for that price I have to tilt my head to see it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on August 28, 2011, 09:50:19 PM
I can't believe for that price I have to tilt my head to see it.


I think she keeps forgetting to either turn the camera or the cards, or she keeps turning both and is still wondering why she keeps going around the world to the left.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Liquidfox on August 29, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
I just wonder who needs $20 minus postage that bad (if you sell them all).  Guess you gotta recoup somehow.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 04, 2011, 05:35:59 PM
Here she goes again, i guess she needs 4 different snot variations. Think she'd leave a used tissue for the beggers?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-SKETCH-CARD-Joe-Simko-/380366271120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f98b290
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 04, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
Here she goes again, i guess she needs 4 different snot variations. Think she'd leave a used tissue for the beggers?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS-8-SKETCH-CARD-Joe-Simko-/380366271120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f98b290
Confused....$50 is cheap for a sketch. If I had known it would sell this cheap I would have bid on it. You have no idea if she only put a $50 bid on this or not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 04, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
Anyone here deal with a guy named Frank from NY(Ebay id Ditkorules)?  He asked me to meet him at the Wayne Firehouse show today to buy some display boxes.  Says he was going to get there around noon but for some reason, he supposedly shifted his schedule and was there from 11 to 12:15. I got there just before noon and never saw him and I hung out til 1:00.  There were no more than 5 people other than dealers at this completely dead show. 

Seems pretty disingenuous to leave by 12:15 and claiming he didn't see me as I had my wacky pack guide with me making me easy to spot.  This show is very small, a single room of maybe 25 dealer tables.  I had no way to identify him as he offered me no way to spot him.

I think he is full of crap and never showed up as he now doesn't want to buy the boxes.  I think he just changed his mind and blew me off so I wanted to see if others have dealt with him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 04, 2011, 11:01:13 PM
How can this guy sell these so cheap? Free shipping? and i bet he still turns a profit. This is how Gary can open so much. They must be getting one hell of a deal from TOPPS. This and having to put up with pack/box searchers really pisses one off!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Sealed-24-Pack-Box-/350489880505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ad327b9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 04, 2011, 11:05:43 PM
How can this guy sell these so cheap? Free shipping? and i bet he still turns a profit. This is how Gary can open so much. They must be getting one hell of a deal from TOPPS. This and having to put up with pack/box searchers really pisses one off!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-8-Sealed-24-Pack-Box-/350489880505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ad327b9

Stay away....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 05, 2011, 07:54:30 AM
Stay away....
Why stay away?  Do these come with topps plastic wrap?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 05, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
Anyone here deal with a guy named Frank from NY(Ebay id Ditkorules)?  He asked me to meet him at the Wayne Firehouse show today to buy some display boxes.  Says he was going to get there around noon but for some reason, he supposedly shifted his schedule and was there from 11 to 12:15. I got there just before noon and never saw him and I hung out til 1:00.  There were no more than 5 people other than dealers at this completely dead show. 

Seems pretty disingenuous to leave by 12:15 and claiming he didn't see me as I had my wacky pack guide with me making me easy to spot.  This show is very small, a single room of maybe 25 dealer tables.  I had no way to identify him as he offered me no way to spot him.

I think he is full of crap and never showed up as he now doesn't want to buy the boxes.  I think he just changed his mind and blew me off so I wanted to see if others have dealt with him.


I never had any dealings with him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 10, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 10, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8

But it's a RARE Maximun Security Bonus Card !!

 I love how people on e-bay loosely use the words RARE and VINTAGE and MINT.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 12, 2011, 06:30:12 AM
Really? You would think these things would be going down, this clown is asking for even MORE!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-ANS8-Bonus-Box-B4-Maximum-Security-Bonus-Card-Sealed-Box-/260851352808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbbf3c4e8

This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 26, 2011, 02:20:33 PM
This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)


What baffles the shit out of me about this one is somebody bought one!!!


Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 26, 2011, 02:23:23 PM
If it doesnt sell the first time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-Wacky-Packages-4-Burger-Thing-PSA-10-pop-2-/270820766434?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0e2cf2e2


Ask for MORE the second!



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-Wacky-Packages-4-Burger-Thing-PSA-10-pop-2-/270824719602?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D270820766434%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3060628054219598931

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 26, 2011, 05:30:42 PM
This one is even worse than that because it's for just the card.  At least the other auction has 6 packs!

(http://s1.postimage.org/2y4axvvr8/Screen_shot_2011_09_12_at_9_27_33_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2y4axvvr8/)


Clint=Overpriced
I don't understand his reasoning for selling price. I don't think he has one. He's hoping someone will pay it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 04, 2011, 04:48:02 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 04, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f
LOL, the problem is that wackys seem to be relistable forever with no fees so this seller has no downside in just mindlessly relisting it over and over again.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 04, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
I'm sorry but this clown is still trying to sell these at astronomical, stupid, assholedness prices. I mean come on, he wont even budge on his price. I'm getting sick of looking at that shit!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-DUXIE-LOOK-/110750566703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c93f892f

It seems like I've been seeing that one pop up for years now.  This seller and that seller Lisa something seem like they will never stop listing them.  I've considered buying them so I don't have to look at them anymore!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 04, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 12:37:51 PM
Put the seller(s) on your ignore list in eBay. Then you don't have to look at them any more!
Yeah, but then when he lists a NM Ratz with a BIN of $7.99, you'll miss it.  LOL  All Wackys are worth at least $7.99. Didn't you know that?

It's amazing how many times this shmuck has relisted these at the same price, with no hits, and yet continues to do so. Does he really think they are worth anything? Think I'll write him...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.
Rick Probstein? probstein123?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 05, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.

I wouldnt say flip, more like overprices and then just sits there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 01:12:49 PM
Holy cow, there is an ignore list for ebay?  I never knew this.  I want to ignore that guy that flips all the Toppsvault stuff for thousands of $.

I'm currently ignoring these sellers:
probstein123,adam-12!,make-mine-marvel

This is my search criteria:
wack* pack* -(ans*, flashback, 1985, 1980, 1979, 1986, bandz, proof, sonic, "all new", all-new, 2005

I basically want to narrow it down to OS stuff. It drops my search results almost half.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 05, 2011, 02:29:16 PM
Probstein is a consignment seller, and apparently a very good one. I agree, he rarely has anything appealing in the world of wackys, but he does have a lot of good sports card stuff....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 05:28:36 PM
I wouldnt say flip, more like overprices and then just sits there.
Good point, I used the wrong word as flipping implies the stuff is selling!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 05, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Think I'll write him...
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.
Quote from: bigtomi
I just wanted to pass along some advice/information regarding these Wacky Package auctions you've been running, as I've been a collector for quite some time. Has it occurred to you that you're overpricing these? And, in fact, a good portion of them have next to no value at all given the condition they're in. Duxie is a good example; this one is basically valueless as a collectible sticker. I'm really not trying to be vindictive, just hoping you will see the light on these for what they are. They are truly not worth even listing for sale. Throw them out and move on.
Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:
Quote from: eBay seller
Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !! thank you,marc
Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
I particular like that he wants to pay you for something he deemed as priceless as he runs one sentence to the next....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on October 05, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...
Ha!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

The guy is a total loon. What is with these wack job sellers? Everyone thinks they have a treasure. We should all message him through eBay so he gets a clue? Fuckhead response! Sorry, I'm still sad about Steve Jobs :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 05, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Actually if you look at this guys completed stuff he doesn't sell much. It's all garbage.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on October 06, 2011, 05:40:14 AM
Series 7 bio complete set. "by far the best price on the market" at $140.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110754032333&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

However, you can buy them here for $110 less:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTCARD-SERIES-7-COMPLETE-BIO-SET-6-/170703288501?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D180730098443%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3284191039940953257
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 06, 2011, 06:01:27 AM
Series 7 bio complete set. "by far the best price on the market" at $140.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110754032333&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

However, you can buy them here for $110 less:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTCARD-SERIES-7-COMPLETE-BIO-SET-6-/170703288501?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D180730098443%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3284191039940953257

Yo..that top one is Plan9's auction - he's working it...like the profit margin...it might have been the best price for a minute or so... :P :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 06, 2011, 06:01:28 AM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

I think he's probably a little strange but I think his response is just sarcastic humor.  I guess we more several more years of looking at them! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 06, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Well, I did write him. And I got a response, too.Maybe a little harsh at the end, but IMO, pretty much the truth. His response:Hmmmm. I particularly like his line saying he can't wait to go nuts. I think the wait is over...

LOL, you always make me laugh!  :great:

You'll see, just wait! Cool, we'll have something else to wait for besides Olds 3.

His stock pile of 2500 items must smell pretty nasty by now.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 06, 2011, 08:37:07 PM
LOL, you always make me laugh!  :great:

You'll see, just wait! Cool, we'll have something else to wait for besides Olds 3.

His stock pile of 2500 items must smell pretty nasty by now.  >(

You misread Bug. He said he is waiting till he has stockpiled 2500 items. He is collecting stuff. Lets buy 1 item, get his address and send him bags of garbage in the mail. Maybe he wil get the hint. you know, kinda like putting deodorant on a stinky persons desk.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on October 07, 2011, 12:10:38 PM
You misread Bug. He said he is waiting till he has stockpiled 2500 items. He is collecting stuff. Lets buy 1 item, get his address and send him bags of garbage in the mail. Maybe he wil get the hint. you know, kinda like putting deodorant on a stinky persons desk.

I vote for sending him piles of SH*T instead!!Stuff is Stuff!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 13, 2011, 11:29:39 AM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 13, 2011, 03:59:04 PM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....

$2,000.00 for a couple of Wonderbreads?!!  That's funny.  I guess PSA would have to have both series to compare the die-cut patterns, but some may be too similar to discern.  What should they do if that's the case, list both possibilities on the info?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 13, 2011, 03:59:08 PM
Come on, PSA, I thought you had figured this stuff out....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-WACKY-PACKS-1ST-SERIES-LAVIRUS-MOUTHWASH-PSA-10-TAN-BACK-POP-1-/200660986381?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb853aa0d

The PSA 10 "Cents" he has is undoubtedly a wonder bread too, though there's no official way to prove that....

Unreal! Someone may bite but I think the people with deep pockets would know the difference.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 13, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Unreal! Someone may bite but I think the people with deep pockets would know the difference.

But even if they were legit S1 tanbacks would they be worth anywhere near that amount?  I don't think so.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 13, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
But even if they were legit S1 tanbacks would they be worth anywhere near that amount?  I don't think so.   

A lavirus 10? I have no idea what that would go for. I would assume about $600-$1000.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 14, 2011, 12:24:34 AM
We all know 9046clint is nuts. What i want to know is who is the wack-job that bought 1 ???


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-WACKY-PACKAGES-ANS8-SEALED-BONUS-BOX-B4-MAXIUM-WOW-/380362614551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f60e717
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 14, 2011, 06:28:24 AM
A lavirus 10? I have no idea what that would go for. I would assume about $600-$1000.

I would think a NM tan Lavirus would be worth in the $200-$250.00 range.  I'm not knowledgeable about how much a PSA 10 would increase the value of an already NM card, but 3 to 4X seems like a lot to me.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2011, 08:57:42 AM
It all depends on demand. In the vintage sports card world, the increase is astronomical because everyone on the planet wants a PSA 10  1952 Mickey Mantle and there exist very few. Obviously, the number of people who care enough about a tan-back Lavirus is much smaller. A PSA 10 Band-Ache White Back would definitely break the bank. It's largely a function of the profile of the card driving demand.

I would add: in sports cards, so many cards have been submitted to PSA that the population reports are meaningful. There are many BB card with endemically bad centering and they are legitimately rare in high grade as a result. There are a few wackys that fit that description also (Sweathard, 8-Lives, etc.) Garden variety wackys are hardly worth submitting to PSA. As a result, there could be some wackys here and there for which a PSA 8 doesn't exist. That doesn't mean they're rare or should command a premium. It just means no one has bothered to submit them yet. The whole "Population 1" justification for charging huge bucks for a graden variety wacky is logically flawed, but once in a while I guess you might convince a rich, uneducated registry collector.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Feetena on October 15, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
The whole "Population 1" justification for charging huge bucks for a graden variety wacky is logically flawed, but once in a while I guess you might convince a rich, uneducated registry collector.

Yes, I particularly get a kick out of the frequent 1982 or 1986 album stickers that show up on the Bay with "Population 1". 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 16, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
Is this guy nuts? He is selling this way to low. Doesnt he know if he jacks the price up and tears off a corner and lets it sit around on E-bay for years it just might sell!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Original-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Duxie-Cups-white-back-/400250133447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30c45bc7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 16, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
Is this guy nuts? He is selling this way to low. Doesnt he know if he jacks the price up and tears off a corner and lets it sit around on E-bay for years it just might sell!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Original-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Duxie-Cups-white-back-/400250133447?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30c45bc7

I'm confused? I think it's a fair price for a nice card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 17, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
I'm confused? I think it's a fair price for a nice card.
It is. lucid is sarcastically referring to our selling friend, antiquefloyd, and his pieces of shit cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 30, 2011, 12:30:44 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on October 30, 2011, 06:54:19 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
someone told her she could make a quick buck
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 30, 2011, 08:18:59 AM
OK, this may be slightly off topic but Nuts none the less.  How is it that this seller is selling an unopened pack of Halloween 2011 PC's? The only thing they sell is paperback books. How in the hell does granny even know about these things??? and get them in in less than 12 hours before going "out of stock"??  This one baffles the shit out of me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-Halloween-Postcards-SEALED-Set-SOLD-OUT-Topps-/350502898848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b99cca0
She made me an offer for Grave Nuts......hmmmm.....she is from TN as is WackyGarbage....coincidence?  I think not.....
Oh and she offered to do a direct paypal deal, how could she know I prefer that kind of deal if I never crossed paths with her before?   Hmmmm.....wackygarbage smells like garbage, the name fits him perfectly!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 30, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
someone told her she could make a quick buck



I'm not buying that. Other nefarious things are at work here.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 04, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Topps-1975-Wacky-Packages-11th-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-Mint-State-/150691369336?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2315e7d178


Now this is a rare unopened pack! It's an 11th series pack with a 21-fold front and a (fake) 85-fold back. You don't see these everyday!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 04, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
The Top left corner looks like its been stubbed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 04, 2011, 05:24:56 PM
The Top left corner looks like its been stubbed.

In fact he just accidentally showed the front of the 12th series pack he also has up with the back of the "11th". The scan of the 11th back (and every 9th and 11th he has ever offered) still show it to be fake, however.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 04, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
In fact he just accidentally showed the front of the 12th series pack he also has up with the back of the "11th". The scan of the 11th back (and every 9th and 11th he has ever offered) still show it to be fake, however.
Why would anyone buy anything from him?  We already established lots of his stuff is fake and now he can't even be bothered to show the exact scans of the products he is selling....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 05, 2011, 08:08:08 AM
Why would anyone buy anything from him?  We already established lots of his stuff is fake and now he can't even be bothered to show the exact scans of the products he is selling....

Good question. I believe some of his packs may be real, but no one ever mentions that this guy has used the same scans for about 15 9th, 11th and 12th series auctions. I would never risk dealing with him, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 06, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
Anyone follow those uncut reprint sheet auctions?
10 sheets each of series 2, series 3 and series 4.
from a new seller, with no feedback.
I noticed they used the uncut sheet pics from Greg's site for the images in all the auctions. So I asked, twice, for pics of the actual sheets being sold in the auction, but never got a response - although they did respond to an earlier question I had.

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1 (http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 06, 2011, 09:15:17 PM
Anyone follow those uncut reprint sheet auctions?
10 sheets each of series 2, series 3 and series 4.
from a new seller, with no feedback.
I noticed they used the uncut sheet pics from Greg's site for the images in all the auctions. So I asked, twice, for pics of the actual sheets being sold in the auction, but never got a response - although they did respond to an earlier question I had.

http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1 (http://www.ebay.com/csc/rare-topps/m.html?_clu=2&_dlg=1&_ipg=&LH_PrefLoc=0&_fsct=&LH_Complete=1&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1)

0 rating is not comforting and stealing images even less so but something tells me these will turn out to be legit.  Anyone here win these auctions?  I didn't even notice them but I primarily ignore 1980s auctions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 07, 2011, 08:14:11 AM
I saw these, but the red flags were everywhere so I did not bid on them.  0 feedback, using Topps in the seller name to try for legitimacy, 10 sheets of each of these, not just one, and the lifted pics.  All of this lead me to not bid.  I doubt if this guy really has ten of each of these.  If he did have that many, why sell them all together?  Doesn't make a lot of sense. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 10, 2011, 06:01:20 AM
I saw these, but the red flags were everywhere so I did not bid on them.  0 feedback, using Topps in the seller name to try for legitimacy, 10 sheets of each of these, not just one, and the lifted pics.  All of this lead me to not bid.  I doubt if this guy really has ten of each of these.  If he did have that many, why sell them all together?  Doesn't make a lot of sense. 

I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 10, 2011, 06:14:35 AM
I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D
I've received a private email from them, saying they have more of all 3 sheets sheets (in sets of 10!).

this seems similar to that guy that showed up years ago with several hundred of the Shedd's cards. The cards were initially really rare, and got big $, until everyone finally realized he had a never ending supply.
I wonder how many sheets they have in total.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on November 10, 2011, 06:50:38 AM
I've received a private email from them, saying they have more of all 3 sheets sheets (in sets of 10!).

this seems similar to that guy that showed up years ago with several hundred of the Shedd's cards. The cards were initially really rare, and got big $, until everyone finally realized he had a never ending supply.
I wonder how many sheets they have in total.

The winning bidder left positive feedback, albeit vague, for all three sets of sheets.
If the seller has an unlimited supply, then I wonder if the prices for the sets will begin to drop to series one levels.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 10, 2011, 08:48:01 AM
I came to the same conclusion..though I missed the bidding...I didn't know he lifted the images from Greg's sight?? that can't be good... >:D

Can't the seller take a camera picture of them at least to show that he has them in his possession?  If I were interested I wouldn't bid unless I had some pictures.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 10, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
Can't the seller take a camera picture of them at least to show that he has them in his possession?  If I were interested I wouldn't bid unless I had some pictures.



BTW..the dude that won all 3 auctions won a Series 3 Sheet for $340+ for ONE sheet recently...looks like he's trying to corner the market..seems like he's not an avid Wacky collector/bidder...go figure.. ;D

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 10, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
BTW..the dude that won all 3 auctions won a Series 3 Sheet for $340+ for ONE sheet recently...looks like he's trying to corner the market..seems like he's not an avid Wacky collector/bidder...go figure.. ;D


This is a HUGE red flag.....if the winner of these auctions also overpaid to the tune of $340 for a series 3 reissue sheet, then the seller and winning bidder are one in the same and winning the single sheet for $340 was purely to create perception of market value for these sheets.  I smell a shill here!  This doesn't mean the seller doesn't have the sheets but his greed is going to get the better of him very soon!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 10, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
This is a HUGE red flag.....if the winner of these auctions also overpaid to the tune of $340 for a series 3 reissue sheet, then the seller and winning bidder are one in the same and winning the single sheet for $340 was purely to create perception of market value for these sheets.  I smell a shill here!  This doesn't mean the seller doesn't have the sheets but his greed is going to get the better of him very soon!

I agree.  That's the same thing I thought when I read that.  Create a high price and get a positive feedback from a buyer. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
I agree.  That's the same thing I thought when I read that.  Create a high price and get a positive feedback from a buyer. 

You still have fees so I guess you could buy your feedback but why?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 10, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
You still have fees so I guess you could buy your feedback but why?
Ebay fee could be well worth it if he thinks he is creating a fictional market of $300 for reissue sheets.  Interestingly, I have my series 4 reissue sheet out there and have listed it off and on in recent months and this bidder who won 10 of them didn't bid on mine.....I doubt he will bid on mine, he is purely shilling....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 10, 2011, 09:11:02 PM
Ebay fee could be well worth it if he thinks he is creating a fictional market of $300 for reissue sheets.  Interestingly, I have my series 4 reissue sheet out there and have listed it off and on in recent months and this bidder who won 10 of them didn't bid on mine.....I doubt he will bid on mine, he is purely shilling....

This bidder bought 10 sheets so that is $44 a sheet. I have no idea what you are selling yours for. Remember that eBay fees seem to be around 10% so this guy would have paid around $100 for a 1 rating. It doesn't add up.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 11, 2011, 09:53:33 AM
This bidder bought 10 sheets so that is $44 a sheet. I have no idea what you are selling yours for. Remember that eBay fees seem to be around 10% so this guy would have paid around $100 for a 1 rating. It doesn't add up.
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...I said he wanted to establish a bogus market value for the sheets he is peddling.  For all we know behind the scenes, he didn't complete the deal and got an ebay fee refund.  Notice how soon the feedback was left....do you really think 30 sheets of wackys was paid for and sent in two days?  Auction ended on Sunday(a non shipping day) and feedback was left at 3:00 am on Wednesday which means they were shipped on Monday and received on Tuesday.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2011, 11:44:45 AM
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...I said he wanted to establish a bogus market value for the sheets he is peddling.  For all we know behind the scenes, he didn't complete the deal and got an ebay fee refund.  Notice how soon the feedback was left....do you really think 30 sheets of wackys was paid for and sent in two days?  Auction ended on Sunday(a non shipping day) and feedback was left at 3:00 am on Wednesday which means they were shipped on Monday and received on Tuesday.......

That was exactly what I was going to say.  Just do a mutual cancel and no fees.  I'm just not sure if that would remove the feedback though, but even if it did you could drag that out several weeks while you are selling sheets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 11, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
That was exactly what I was going to say.  Just do a mutual cancel and no fees.  I'm just not sure if that would remove the feedback though, but even if it did you could drag that out several weeks while you are selling sheets.
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on November 11, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.

Judging from all your points...I have to agree..seems "fishy"-prize toy..esp. the shipping and feedback speed...and "rare-topps" yeahhhh....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 11, 2011, 12:37:13 PM
A feedback of 1 doesn't make him a stellar seller, I am sure he is not banking on one feedback making or breaking him.  I am sure he is much more interested in contacting under bidders to sell product that he thinks he has created a hyped market for.

You're probably right but I do think there is a difference from a zero feedback to someone who has one or two positives, as long as you think they are legit transactions of course.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 12, 2011, 07:24:19 AM
Anyone know if the red ludlow print on this card is incorrect for a series one card?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-Weakies-Red-Ludlow-back-series-1-/400256483283?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d31253fd3
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 12, 2011, 08:18:13 AM
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.

What looks odd to me is that the card is so far away I can't even see the camels!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on November 12, 2011, 08:47:56 AM
What looks odd to me is that the card is so far away I can't even see the camels!

They're on the horizon. If you wait long enough, you can see them bounce up and down a little as they walk by.

What I'm trying to figure out is the precise size of the bubble envelope under the sticker. Must be 2 ft x 3 ft or something. It's HUGE!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 12, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
They're on the horizon. If you wait long enough, you can see them bounce up and down a little as they walk by.

What I'm trying to figure out is the precise size of the bubble envelope under the sticker. Must be 2 ft x 3 ft or something. It's HUGE!

Guess the camera did not have zoom and the photographer did not have arms that reached any closer. And the PC had no app to crop picture. And the seller doesn't want to sell very badly.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 12, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
You need to let go of the rating.....i Never said he wanted rating...

I never said you mentioned the rating but Rob did. It's not always about you :-* Your point is well taken!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 12, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
I never said you mentioned the rating but Rob did. It's not always about you :-* Your point is well taken!
You quoted me in your response so it looked like a direct response to me...how do you miss details like this?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 12, 2011, 02:31:07 PM
IMO, I'd say this is likely legit. I know I've seen Luds with up to 5 camel sections on one card. But, I understand your questioning it. It does look odd, somehow.
Where the heck is the original post from Exorcist that you were responding to?  I don't see it in this thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 12, 2011, 02:32:12 PM
Where the heck is the original post from Exorcist that you were responding to?  I don't see it in this thread.

I was looking also, i think he removed it but not before someone responded.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: exorcist on November 12, 2011, 03:57:11 PM
sorry guys i removed it.  i didnt want to offend the seller if it was legit.  thanks for the feedback. i was thinking of bidding and wanted input
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on November 12, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
You quoted me in your response so it looked like a direct response to me...how do you miss details like this?

I questioned you and Rob in the same response. Not al about you. Sorry, let's move on.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 13, 2011, 06:53:07 AM
I questioned you and Rob in the same response. Not al about you. Sorry, let's move on.
Nope, there is no mention of rob's name in your response, you directly quoted me making it look like you were unable to understand that i made no mention of rating being important.  Same ole story, you are sloppy and careless and you just don't care.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on November 13, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
sorry guys i removed it.  i didnt want to offend the seller if it was legit.  thanks for the feedback. i was thinking of bidding and wanted input

The seller wouldn't be part of this forum because WE know how to properly take a pic for eBay!  haha
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on November 13, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
The seller wouldn't be part of this forum because WE know how to properly take a pic for eBay!  haha
I thought you were gonna say that WE know how to properly fake a Lud.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 12, 2011, 08:14:46 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 12, 2011, 09:06:48 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!

That is really a shocker. I was thinking $2k range also. I'm surprised that it went this high when it hasn't been graded.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on December 13, 2011, 05:57:18 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the buyer and/or seller are on the forums here, but someone please help me out with this -- a Ratz die-cut just sold for $4,250!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200684269697?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Everything looks great to me except that smudge in the upper right. I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?! That's the highest I've seen a single Wacky go (not that I've seen that many, but maaaaan)!

I saw that.  It's definitely a nice one but it did have some minor blemishes, so I was surprised it went that high.  Here are the pics in case anyone missed it...........

 
(http://s10.postimage.org/wy3uy6a39/Screen_shot_2011_12_13_at_8_54_54_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wy3uy6a39/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/7gq1sbhqt/Screen_shot_2011_12_13_at_8_55_05_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7gq1sbhqt/)

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Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: koduck on December 13, 2011, 08:59:51 AM
Ratz! I missed another great auction! By the way If anyone has a similar card (for about 1/10th the price), I'll be happy to give it a good home!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 13, 2011, 10:57:09 AM
I was expecting this to go for closer to $2k -- what happened?!?!
I'm in that boat, also, as I expected more like $2,500. Possibly, the fact that there hasn't been a decent Ratz on eBay in quite some time and that this one is pretty high-grade (as die-cut/Ratz's go) might explain that inflated price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 13, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.

Now he's dreaming about that $4,250 sales price. ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 11:31:06 AM
More power to him if the sale is legit, but if so, the buyer is foolhardy to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 13, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
The seller is dreaming if he thinks this would grade a 7 or 8. In fact, it would grade a 6 tops. Even without the smudging on
both the front and the back, a corner ding of that magnitude would bring it down to a 6 immediately.
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 13, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?


This sale is the kind of money a PSA 8 would have gone for at the top of the market.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 13, 2011, 03:11:16 PM
I was thinking with that defect in it, that it would only be a 4-5 I knew it wasn't a 7 or 8.  Though it makes you wonder if it was PSA graded an 8, would it bring the same or more money?


It's crazy but there are collectors that like to find raw cards to grade in hopes of getting a high grade card because of the value. You guys are right that even if this does get a PSA 8 I highly doubt the buyer would get their money back. Now if it comes back a 9 or 10 then that is a totally different story!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 13, 2011, 03:20:36 PM
Not wacky related but this is considered NUTS!
Apple Founding Documents Sell for Nearly $1.6 Million
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1291071
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on December 14, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
Not wacky related but this is considered NUTS!
Apple Founding Documents Sell for Nearly $1.6 Million
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1291071

Yeah, I'd say slightly higher than their pre-auction estimate!  :^)  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on December 15, 2011, 08:38:07 AM
Yeah, I'd say slightly higher than their pre-auction estimate!  :^)  :o

There is speculation that Apple purchased these. They have enough money in reserve :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on December 19, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
I'm not sure if I'm missing something with this poster. Isn't it a $15 to $25 poster at best in nm? Why the big fight? Looks like the paper may be off white, or just poorly aged, but these days it's VERY rare to see a bidding war, much less on something relatively common. Any other takes?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-poster-Crakola-Crayons-nrmt-mt-w-folds-/220912523153?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336f699791
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 19, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
Don't know why, but it sure underscores the wisdom of sniping. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on December 19, 2011, 01:42:37 PM
Don't know why, but it sure underscores the wisdom of sniping. 

Sniping certainly helps minimize someone bidding you up, but a "wacky" bid usually produces wacky results no matter when it's placed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 19, 2011, 01:51:08 PM
I saw that auction and thought to myself, Damn i've got those cheaper from ToppsVault with NO-folds.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 19, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
Hang on... is it just me, or is the photo of the back of the poster mighty flat and small? Looks like the back of a card?!?  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 19, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
Hang on... is it just me, or is the photo of the back of the poster mighty flat and small? Looks like the back of a card?!?  :o
the poster is just completely folded up, that's all
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on December 20, 2011, 08:55:59 AM
... it's VERY rare to see a bidding war, much less on something relatively common. Any other takes?
I think there's actually no "war" here at all. The winning bidder only placed one (very high) bid 5 days before auction end. The only other bidder just kept stabbing at it, pushing it up. My guess is the winner just really wanted it badly and placed a super high bid to minimize the chance of losing it. I'd bet he thought he'd get it for considerably less.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 20, 2011, 09:23:23 AM
I think there's actually no "war" here at all. The winning bidder only placed one (very high) bid 5 days before auction end. The only other bidder just kept stabbing at it, pushing it up. My guess is the winner just really wanted it badly and placed a super high bid to minimize the chance of losing it. I'd bet he thought he'd get it for considerably less.

Which is exactly why he should have sniped it at the same bid. That way, the other bidder wouldn't have had anything to keep bidding up, and would have put in probably a considerably lower bid. I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on December 20, 2011, 02:19:52 PM
I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."

This constantly cracks me up. It's like someone driving off a cliff and a line of cars following behind.

We forum members should do an experiment and put up for aution a "vintage - rare" plastic turd. Then each of us keep bidding it up and see if any outsiders bid in on it. Once an outsider bids, then sell that turd to the outsider who must of thought it was worth something!  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on December 20, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
the poster is just completely folded up, that's all

Duh! Makes perfect sense now - thanks!  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on December 20, 2011, 05:03:47 PM
This constantly cracks me up. It's like someone driving off a cliff and a line of cars following behind.

We forum members should do an experiment and put up for aution a "vintage - rare" plastic turd. Then each of us keep bidding it up and see if any outsiders bid in on it. Once an outsider bids, then sell that turd to the outsider who must of thought it was worth something!  :great:
someone beat us to it... http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Fake-Dog-Turd-Realistic-Poop-Plastic-Gag-Gift-Prank-/320813424162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1f85e22
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on December 20, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Which is exactly why he should have sniped it at the same bid. That way, the other bidder wouldn't have had anything to keep bidding up, and would have put in probably a considerably lower bid. I'm always surprised how many people on ebay just have no clue as to value and figure "If someone else bid this much, it must be worth it, so I will too."
Didn't Todd Riley win this?  He knows better than to get suckered with an early high bid.  This is very strange!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on December 21, 2011, 01:38:00 PM
someone beat us to it... http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Fake-Dog-Turd-Realistic-Poop-Plastic-Gag-Gift-Prank-/320813424162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1f85e22

That auction's full of crap!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on December 21, 2011, 06:01:49 PM
That auction's full of crap!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I wasn't the first bidder but I was the #2 bidder (baboom)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 24, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
Did someone just pay over $200 for a 16th series Horsey in average condition?  I think I found who is nuts.  Who is more nuts, the winner or the one trying to overtake him at well over the price of the card?

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on December 24, 2011, 01:01:05 PM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on December 24, 2011, 04:42:30 PM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932

But was it W@W...L@@K...R@RE?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 01, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
We have a new up and comer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-ANS-Series-8-Shots-Dots-Brent-Engstrom-Sketch-Card-/110802315752?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc5529e8

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Wacky-Packages-ANS-Series-8-Peepsi-Pepsi-Smokin-Joe-Sketch-Card-/110802314863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc55266f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on January 01, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Let's make sure we point out the best selling point.  FREE SHIPPING!  For 750 measly bucks, you get free shipping.

WOW! :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
Let's make sure we point out the best selling point.  FREE SHIPPING!  For 750 measly bucks, you get free shipping.

WOW! :o

I'd be shocked if these netted $75...  let alone $750  :85:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on January 02, 2012, 06:57:02 AM
My bad!  I failed to notice that it was RARE.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190616442272?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649#ht_1140wt_932

Isn't that a $40-$60 card these days based on condition?  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 04, 2012, 08:28:11 PM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on January 05, 2012, 04:42:20 AM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6

I'll bet they are both trying to complete sets, and need that specific card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 05, 2012, 06:41:10 AM
We know one of these bidders is nuts, but the other dropped a screw now also. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-GOLD-FOIL-CARD-21-TRIVIAL-LAWSUIT-/220925677238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370324eb6

Gold #29 sold for the same amount and I needed it but I didn't even bother bidding when I saw what was going on.  When I first saw it it was already at $157.00 which is more than I would pay.  There are obviously some collectors out there trying to complete a set!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 05, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Slayskool needed it to complete his golds !  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on January 05, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Slayskool needed it to complete his golds !  ;D


Ha!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 10, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
I'm tempted to pop on this one, but the $38 shipping kinda puts it over the top for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLY-GRAIL-PARTRIDGE-FAMILY-SCREEN-GEMS-RECORDS-SHIRLEY-JONES-DAVID-CASSIDY-/320826701268?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4ab2c2f5d4
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 10, 2012, 09:01:22 AM
I'm tempted to pop on this one, but the $38 shipping kinda puts it over the top for me:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLY-GRAIL-PARTRIDGE-FAMILY-SCREEN-GEMS-RECORDS-SHIRLEY-JONES-DAVID-CASSIDY-/320826701268?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4ab2c2f5d4

I wouldn't, they aren't even PSA graded.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on January 10, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
You're putting a price on the Holy Grail?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: NEZHEAD42 on January 10, 2012, 12:33:36 PM
Wouldn't Shirley Jones, David Cassidy or that funky bus be the Holy Grail of Partridge Family collectibles?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on January 10, 2012, 01:01:14 PM
Wouldn't Shirley Jones, David Cassidy or that funky bus be the Holy Grail of Partridge Family collectibles?

Depends, Danny Bonaduce is the Holy Grail of idiots.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 10, 2012, 06:19:06 PM
Wow! The shipping to Canada is only $214.55 :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 19, 2012, 06:28:10 AM

I'm going to yield on this one so someone else can jump on it.  What are the odds of this happening?  haha................


(http://s14.postimage.org/vbo7cof25/Screen_shot_2012_01_19_at_9_26_25_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vbo7cof25/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 19, 2012, 02:55:56 PM
I'm going to yield on this one so someone else can jump on it.  What are the odds of this happening?  haha................


(http://s14.postimage.org/vbo7cof25/Screen_shot_2012_01_19_at_9_26_25_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vbo7cof25/)

Or this is the sticker image bleeding through so you can see it from the back.  I have seen these before but the image showing through the back was much lighter.  It is almost as if the tan backing is much thinner paper.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 19, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
Or this is the sticker image bleeding through so you can see it from the back.  I have seen these before but the image showing through the back was much lighter.  It is almost as if the tan backing is much thinner paper.

I was being sarcastic on that one.  It looks to me like the sticker backing is completely missing so you can see right through it. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 19, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
I was being sarcastic on that one.  It looks to me like the sticker backing is completely missing so you can see right through it. 
yeah. seems like the back may have been soaked in Chicken Fat - making it see-through.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on January 22, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
yeah. seems like the back may have been soaked in Chicken Fat - making it see-through.

Probably just sat in water for a good long time and this is the result.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 23, 2012, 06:01:32 AM
Is this nuts? It looks nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on January 23, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
Is this nuts? It looks nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Topps-Wacky-Packages-2nd-Series-Unopened-Box-/360426133199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e)
Maybe a wittle bit nuts. 2nd series material is harder to come by, though, so that could explain it to some degree...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 23, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
When you say harder to come by do you mean unopened material specifically? I thought that the 4th series was harder because the sets always seem to cost more than the other 3.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 23, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
Yes, the second series of rissue unopened stuff is by far the hardest to come by.  I would say that it is worth 4x what series 1 and 3 stuff goes for, and maybe double what series 4 goes for.  Again, all unopened material, packs and full boxes.  This auction is not al that surprising to me.  I can't remember the last time I saw a full series 2 box up for sale.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on January 24, 2012, 03:14:29 PM
The price doubled since I first posted, $660.99 :o I used to think that only the original series stuff would go for prices like this. So the person that bought this would be a collector of unopened boxes? I guess there would be no point paying that much to build sets or sell packs.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on January 24, 2012, 07:08:28 PM
The price doubled since I first posted, $660.99 :o I used to think that only the original series stuff would go for prices like this. So the person that bought this would be a collector of unopened boxes? I guess there would be no point paying that much to build sets or sell packs.

Now, if I would have sold it I would have gotten $199...HaHa
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 25, 2012, 08:24:04 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1976-WACKY-PACKAGES-16TH-SERIES-EMPTY-BOX-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/220939900689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33710b5711

I love it when people are intellectually dishonest in their item descriptions. The 16th series box (along with wrappers) is the most common original series box. Yet people always try to link the rarity of the stickers to the rarity of the box. It's worth $75-100 max.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 25, 2012, 08:39:46 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/73-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-1-RARE-MRS-KLEAN-TAN-BACK-HI-GRADE-NM-MT-CONDITION-/320834645365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab33c2d75

Hey presto! A nearly miscut wonderbread sticker becomes a NM/MT 1st series "rare" tanback with "very good centering!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 25, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1976-WACKY-PACKAGES-16TH-SERIES-EMPTY-BOX-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/220939900689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33710b5711

I love it when people are intellectually dishonest in their item descriptions. The 16th series box (along with wrappers) is the most common original series box. Yet people always try to link the rarity of the stickers to the rarity of the box. It's worth $75-100 max.

Yeah, I even think that is a bit high.  I don't think I would go more than $50 onn a 16th empty box.  Now full, that would be another story!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on January 30, 2012, 10:35:27 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on January 30, 2012, 10:56:45 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?


I wouldn't mind getting one if the price drops to, say, around $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on January 30, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360430390877?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

So I wrote to this guy to see if he would consider selling his whole roll of sheets....of course what I was really doing was trying to find out if in fact he has a roll of these so I know that the market is about to be flooded with these "scarce" sheets......he told me he is not interested in selling the roll which seems to confirm he does in fact have a roll of these....hence expect this sheet will soon not be "scarce".  I don't own one of these yet so I plan to offer him $5, anyone else going to try to pick up a sheet as he "rolls" these out?


I have that one and the common one, but I still need the "fresh breath" version.  It's nice for those that need something rare like that, but it's also a shame when it suddenly becomes common after many years.  Takes some of the spice out of it.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 31, 2012, 09:56:36 AM

FYI.  I offered him $40.00 for the Peanuts sheet and he turned down my offer.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Tic_Toc on January 31, 2012, 10:47:01 AM
FYI.  I offered him $40.00 for the Peanuts sheet and he turned down my offer.

He didn't even counter?  Kinda wonder why people bother with the "Best Offer" option if they aren't going to budge from their asking price.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on January 31, 2012, 11:10:39 AM
He countered with an offer of $45.00
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on January 31, 2012, 12:12:50 PM
He didn't even counter?  Kinda wonder why people bother with the "Best Offer" option if they aren't going to budge from their asking price.

I always counter...kinda like the best offer deal.... :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on January 31, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
He countered with an offer of $45.00

That guy thinks he's going to retire on that roll...eventually he will come down... :o :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 03, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
You know? Some people just don't get it with the sketch cards. I see 2 auctions that started at $800 each and then dropped to $500, then dropped to $200 and now at $180 and they still won't sell that high. This pack searcher is probably scratching his head.
Then I see this auction making its 2nd or 3rd round:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-1st-2nd-SERIES-10-JAY-LYNCH-RARE-SKETCH-CARDS-/200708888076?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebb2e960c#ht_500wt_922

There are only a few big spenders Within the sketch card community, including myself to some extent. If they aren't grabbed at higher prices then they won't sell until the price gets dropped dramatically. I didn't think this would happen but OLDS1 and 2 helped to build sketch burnout with some sketch collectors. Even the postcards aren't even as important nor are the color sketches. OLDS3 could change that depending on sketches but we have hit the peak of sketch cards. I still love them but when is too much?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 04, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
I still love them but when is too much?

Is this person NUTS???


                   :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
Is this person NUTS???


                   :]

Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 04, 2012, 10:19:21 AM
Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.
lol. I think he was referring to Brad being nuts. Brad might be getting tired of sketch cards? say it ain't so!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on February 04, 2012, 10:25:16 AM
lol. I think he was referring to Brad being nuts. Brad might be getting tired of sketch cards? say it ain't so!

I'm not getting tired of sketch cards. I love them but what my point was is the sketch market is slowing down. If I was tired of sketches I wouldn't have an additional 13 Spook card sketches. Not even Wacky's and I'm still collecting sketches :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 03:30:35 PM
I'm not getting tired of sketch cards. I love them but what my point was is the sketch market is slowing down. If I was tired of sketches I wouldn't have an additional 13 Spook card sketches. Not even Wacky's and I'm still collecting sketches :great:

I still like em a lot as well !  For me, it sort of equates to having 'one of the big four' from the Original Series, since you know there are a limited number of these. Plus, knowing it was drawn directly from the artist and is not a repro. is really cool too. I also notice that a lot of them look way better in hand than in pictures, don't know exactly why but it is so.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on February 04, 2012, 04:10:07 PM
Haven't been in the market lately for sketches. Is this person Nuts? Maybe not. The question is, as these get more harder to aquire, will the demand stay? I think so, as long as Wackys are staying popular. Last I knew, approx 1/2 that starting price would be a reasonable place to start the bidding. But maybe not now.

Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 04, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.

Wow, told ya I was out of the loop on this.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 06, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
Most of that lot can be had for under $20. Last week I was watching some of these sketches and some others being sold by a forum member. The starting bid was $7 + free shipping and nobody bid. He re-listed them and the same person bought most if not all between $7-$12 each. Those seem like reasonable prices to me.

You had my curiosity on this, so I checked ebay just now (monday 2-6) for auctions of sketches. There are very few now listed in auctions and the prices do not seem to be anywhere near starting at 7. or below. Most of the BIN's are: a handful btwn 9. to 12. The rest of the majority of the 232 I found are near 15. and up. That person that you spoke of probably just got a really good deal because not as many people are paying attention like before. When you said most of that lot can be had for under 20. you must mean per card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on February 06, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
Yes I meant per card, sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 07, 2012, 07:02:34 AM
Yes I meant per card, sorry for the confusion.

No apology needed. I was just kind of shocked if they were selling that low especially for a lot of them. I'd have to get me in on that action if that was the case.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 07, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 07, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)

Maybe they really don't want to sell it, but will if it goes for the overstated price?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 13, 2012, 06:09:39 PM
Another deal that can't be missed:  :great:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-4-WINDHEX-SINGLE-CARD-/200632565562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb6a1ff3a

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 13, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?
hasn't stopped probstein123 and their 2000 pieces of massively overpriced crap
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 14, 2012, 03:50:42 AM
When one lists something repeatedly and garners no bids, does it ever dawn on the seller that the item may be massively overpriced?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c  (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-PLASTIC-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230743348860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b960167c)

the auction states "no reserve"....  if the $99.00 starting bid ain't a reserve I don't know what is.... 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 14, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
the auction states "no reserve"....  if the $99.00 starting bid ain't a reserve I don't know what is.... 

LOL, Ah - come on, make an offer.  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on February 14, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
LOL, Ah - come on, make an offer.  :^)

99 cent !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 29, 2012, 08:23:39 AM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 29, 2012, 08:28:24 AM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e

Did you email the seller to let them know? 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 29, 2012, 08:35:53 AM
Did you email the seller to let them know?  

No, I enjoy spouting off about this kind of thing in the forum, but have no desire to do anything about it  :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on February 29, 2012, 09:07:35 AM

I sent the seller an email:

Hi,
The Jail-O sticker is definitely a wonder bread sticker. Regular first series issues had a T.C.G. copyright while wonder bread stickers had Topps Chewing Gum Inc. spelled out. Here's a link with more info:
http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/wonderbread/


By the way, shipping for the single card is $6. Is he sending it in a large priority mail box?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 29, 2012, 10:02:35 AM
I sent the seller an email
I sent one, also, just as a confirmation to yours.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on February 29, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
No, I enjoy spouting off about this kind of thing in the forum, but have no desire to do anything about it  :D

I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on February 29, 2012, 01:16:25 PM
I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 

I sent one and he told me to tell Dr. Popper to lay off his ass..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on February 29, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
I sent him an email and he said he would correct it.  I figure if it's an honest mistake we might help get it corrected before a newbie gets screwed because it was described incorrectly.  Sounds like others emailed him as well! 
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 29, 2012, 05:54:12 PM
... if he never said it was not a WB, then why is the word "NOT" so prominently in the ebay link?  :P

He is now on my no-fly list.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on February 29, 2012, 06:00:44 PM
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.

He says he revised it, but there is still nothing mentioned about it being a Wonder Bread Card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on February 29, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
Does saying something make it so?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-VERY-RARE-JAIL-O-TAN-BACK-1st-Series-Not-Wonder-Bread-/270925191998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f14665b3e

Yes Tomi, what a jackass. His first link clearly says "NOT" a wonder bread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on February 29, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
He says he revised it, but there is still nothing mentioned about it being a Wonder Bread Card.

Yeah, he only removed the word "NOT" (the word he says he never used!) from the title (see his other listings for a true tan back 1st).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2012, 05:45:35 AM
Yeah, he only removed the word "NOT" (the word he says he never used!) from the title (see his other listings for a true tan back 1st).

The odds are 99% that his Gadzooka is a wonder bread also. There's no conclusive way to prove it, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:27:23 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2012, 06:31:52 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5

Oh the fascinating nuances of wackys! This is actually a 1st series UK set. This seller is from England, and has both the first and second series UK sets up right now. It's actually very cool, because for the UK titles from the later original series, there's no conclusive way to prove they are UK stickers, except to obtain them in a set like this that originated in the UK.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:37:06 AM
Here's his response to me (I basically just told him it was not a Series 1 tan, that it was a Wonder Bread):

It is a series 1 Tan Back sticker, I never said that it was not a Wonder Bread. It is how ever a 1973 1st Series Tan Back - Wonder Bread Edition. I have revised my post, If someone wants it they will buy it for the amount I am asking. Good Day.

Geez, what an anus.

Why couldn't he just thank you for pointing out his mistake? Absolutely no need to get defensive.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 06:40:03 AM
Speaking of Wonder Bread, what's going on in this auction? Seller claims this is an OS series 1 set, but every visible card is a Wonder Bread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-1ST-SERIES-SET-30-9-CHECKLIST-WRAPPER-/200721258965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebbeb59d5

Actually those look like U.K. series to me.  There's no Paul Maul Wonderbread, the wrapper is blue, and the shipping location is U.K.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 01, 2012, 06:51:16 AM
Is there any way to tell the difference between a UK and Wonder Bread title that overlaps between the two sets?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 07:33:46 AM
Is there any way to tell the difference between a UK and Wonder Bread title that overlaps between the two sets?

Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 01, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.
I saw that wrapper and new it was the UK set.  Any idea what the first series set is worth?  He has a second set as well.  I know the puzzle for that one is worth a bit.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 08:55:54 AM
I saw that wrapper and new it was the UK set.  Any idea what the first series set is worth?  He has a second set as well.  I know the puzzle for that one is worth a bit.

I have it as $425.00 (set) + $150.00 (puzzle), but that's for a solid EX+ to NM set, and although you can't see all of the set the ones you do see have some issues.  He describes it as "good" condition for whatever that's worth. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 01, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
I have it as $425.00 (set) + $150.00 (puzzle), but that's for a solid EX+ to NM set, and although you can't see all of the set the ones you do see have some issues.  He describes it as "good" condition for whatever that's worth. 

The problem is actually getting someone to pay that amount. I don't know how many collect all the different variations other than the forum members. The Irish set has come down over the years and that is unique.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 09:26:30 AM
The problem is actually getting someone to pay that amount. I don't know how many collect all the different variations other than the forum members. The Irish set has come down over the years and that is unique.

Your right, to get the full amount you would need to be patient, but like I said it also has a lot to do with condition.  If that was an EX- set I would cut the price in half.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2012, 10:38:54 AM
Why couldn't he just thank you for pointing out his mistake? Absolutely no need to get defensive.
Yup. Just a "Thanks for pointing that out" would have sufficed...and made him look less clueless.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 01, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
Yes, the UK versions have the same copyright but with a asterisk (*) with it, and the Wonderbreads don't.  It's too bad that seller didn't show all of the cards in his pic, but I would guess they are all UK's.


How many series were released in the UK? This guy is always selling boxes and sets of wackys. I've seen him auction boxes from the '79/80 reissues, 1985, and original series, and I think album stickers. If these were not sold in the UK then he has a mix of US/UK.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on March 01, 2012, 04:24:05 PM

How many series were released in the UK? This guy is always selling boxes and sets of wackys. I've seen him auction boxes from the '79/80 reissues, 1985, and original series, and I think album stickers. If these were not sold in the UK then he has a mix of US/UK.

There were series 1 & 2 U.K releases and then there was the Irish set in 1985.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 02, 2012, 05:17:22 PM
They come in all forms. This is 1 sweet tart, they come 1 in every box. This guy is trying to pay for half his box by selling it for this price. Some things really do make me LOL. The chump who buys this deserves to be ripped off. Someone alreay bought each card in the base set from this guy for .99 each.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monsterwax-Spook-Show-Faint-Pill-MINT-SUPER-HARD-TO-FIND-/170795300461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c431766d
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 02, 2012, 05:55:24 PM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 02, 2012, 06:19:30 PM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"

:: Raises Hand ::


...NOT! OMG That is one of the all-time nuttiest. Seriously.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 03, 2012, 06:36:29 AM

Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20


And $90 seems a bit high for Hoppy Meal - not sure of the market though

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Series-4-POSTCARD-BONUS-Card-HOPPY-MEAL-VERY-SCARCE-/120866753635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c24384c63
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 03, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20




Rare trim error.  :^)... That's what his barber said when he charged him double after accidentally removing a large divet of hair. Rare trim error indeed.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 03, 2012, 07:30:50 AM
Starting bid = $15.99         "In GOOD but RARE TRIM ERROR condition"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20


He sure can paint a happy face on a miscut wonder bread sticker with significant wear.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 03, 2012, 08:57:27 AM
Now this is nuts. Top this!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Window-sticking-wacky-packages-/251009188145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71504131#ht_500wt_1076)


Who's tempted to "Buy it Now"

Gotta love that quality photo too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 03, 2012, 09:35:22 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20

The photo is pretty much going to sell this item alone.  It is a BEAUTY!  RARE!  Last of it's kind.  HTF! LOOK! You don't see these too often.  One sold recently for $200.  Don't wait!  Get it before someone else scoops it up.  This won't last long.  This sticker is MINT*!



*Except for the fact that it was left out in the scorching sun for 10 years, someone tried to clean it in the middle with some bleach, the glue softened and the sticker slid off it backing, the corners were nibbled on by rodents, it doesn't lay flat, it is actually a Wonderbread sticker, and it is slightly off-center.



Some of these auctions are starting to remind me of all those horrible infomercials that occurred back in the 1980's.  I can't believe they even believe what they are typing as a description sometimes.  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on March 03, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
Gotta love that quality photo too!

The original BIN was $100, but the seller has come to his senses and reduced to $50. :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 03, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mutts-Apple-Juice-1973-TRIM-ERROR-/320857635360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab49afa20
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 03, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!

Maybe it was just removed from the loaf this week.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 03, 2012, 06:02:21 PM
Sticker has moved on card due to original bread oil

ROTFLMFAO!!

What? Italian bread? I always find that my hands are so greasy when I grab a slice of bread out of the bag. Oh, it was Bog Bread. Talk about pinching a loaf. What a doof.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 04, 2012, 11:09:21 PM
I always wondered what the lowest PSA rating would be.  I couldn't imagine someone sending in a crap sticker for grading.  Well...I guess I now have the answer to my question.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

I wonder if there is a PSA 0.   LOL!  Funny stuff.  I can hear the conversation now, "I think I will send this crappy card in to see how crappy it is.  And, when it comes back with the worst rating, I am going to proudly display it in its PSA casing."

Did the guy ever consider taking it out of the case so someone might think it is better than a 1 rating?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 05, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

Quote from: seller
you've got two cards that are hard to add to your collection

Damn straight, dude! I wouldn't even consider adding that crapola to my collection, Ludlow or not.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: emoticon on March 05, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
The seller states "I knew going into the grading the cards were not in great shape, but I honestly felt they deserved higher than 1 and 2."

There is a lesson here....any card he lists as an EX is probably much closer to a VG. Any NM is probably an EX.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 05, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 05, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81
A little more fiberin your diet lucid, maybe you'll get some "good shit". :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 05, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
I always wondered what the lowest PSA rating would be.  I couldn't imagine someone sending in a crap sticker for grading.  Well...I guess I now have the answer to my question.
think about it though - the population report for these guys are probably just 1 each. How freakin' rare is that??? You can say you have the one and only PSA 1 Tied. There are no others!  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 05, 2012, 04:35:36 PM
This sketch is AWSOME!!!  And it couldnt have gone to a better guy.  Why does this guy get all the good shit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-OLD-SCHOOL-3-SKETCH-CARD-GRIM-COFFEE-RARE-X-RAY-MATTHEW-KIRSCHT-/220968823937?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3372c4ac81

You can make an offer...LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 05, 2012, 08:21:37 PM
think about it though - the population report for these guys are probably just 1 each. How freakin' rare is that??? You can say you have the one and only PSA 1 Tied. There are no others!  :great:

LOL!   ;D  Stop it, you are killing me!  Funny stuff!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 06, 2012, 01:33:30 PM
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=190649400454&pt=US_Baseball&_osacat=0&hash=item2c6396fc86&_ssn=j9suited

I would wager every one of these stickers is wonder bread. Under that assumption, and with about 1,000,000 uncirculated wonder bread sets floating around, is it really that hard to get PSA 9's and 10's? Overpriced to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 06, 2012, 09:30:11 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Wacky-Packages-1st-Series-2-RED-LUDLOWS-SKIMPY-TIED-RARE-/360439486392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ebde17b8

What does the PR on the Tied card mean. The other says "good" in the same location. PR - pretty rediculous?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 06, 2012, 09:36:28 PM
What does the PR on the Tied card mean. The other says "good" in the same location. PR - pretty rediculous?

PR = PooR ?

or perhaps "Particularly Rank" ?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 08, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on March 08, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
Oak Lawn  Illinois  not too far from Joliet..............................................................disgusting!!!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 08, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?

lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on March 08, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"

Lol (not just sayin' it, I actually Loled). That's exactly what it looks like.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 08, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
Our old pal is at it again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-MR-GOODBYE-LOOK-/110838185329?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce787d71

I wonder: could there be any wacky in such terrible shape that he doesn't say that it still looks to be in good condition?
This is the only eBay seller whose Wackies I specifically ignore in my search. Only schmuck in 11 years to deserve that honor.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 08, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"

Yeah, the WC (water closet)...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on March 08, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
Yeah, the WC (water closet)...

Easy George, your age is showing, tuck it back in.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 08, 2012, 06:24:10 PM
Easy George, your age is showing, tuck it back in.

 :D  You young whippersnappers! I remember when... uuhhm, what was I talking about?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Slaytex99 on March 12, 2012, 07:04:14 PM
hmmm where can I get one of these sets?  I would be very interested in one.  I used to eat so much wonder bread just so my mom would go out and buy another loaf hahaha.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=190649400454&pt=US_Baseball&_osacat=0&hash=item2c6396fc86&_ssn=j9suited

I would wager every one of these stickers is wonder bread. Under that assumption, and with about 1,000,000 uncirculated wonder bread sets floating around, is it really that hard to get PSA 9's and 10's? Overpriced to say the least.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RaMpB on March 17, 2012, 03:54:53 AM
lol! I love this guy! His descriptions are pure entertainment!


I actually read "IT SAT IN THE CLOSET FOR SOME 35 YEARS"

     as

"LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SHAT ON IT IN A CLOSET FOR 35 YEARS"
It's almost 7am and I woke the whole house up after reading your thread! 💩
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 18, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
This is the only eBay seller whose Wackies I specifically ignore in my search. Only schmuck in 11 years to deserve that honor.

Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 18, 2012, 11:32:49 AM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 
that's friggin' hilarious. the Knuckles is stuck on an O-Hairy border with the O-Hairy sticker stuck on the back. "Original" LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 18, 2012, 02:11:21 PM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8

What you see is what you get, he says! Right about that. At least there are no "stock" pictures of wackys on ebay. If that were the case, there'd be even more unhappy buyers out there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 18, 2012, 04:28:26 PM
Best one yet! A re-stick, upside down no less. "Has never been pulled off its original backing. Still looks to be in good condition."
 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/110844495864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ced8c7f8


I am glad he pointed out the small rip in the card that does not affect the sticker at all.  I really like an honest seller with full disclosure.  I never understood why he was charging $7.99 for the one sticker.  But, now I realize that there is a BONUS STICKER on the back.  This changes everything.

Sorry, I am all out of sarcasm for the moment so I will have to stop here.  I did contact this guy once and told him his Duxie rodent-chewed sticker was not worth listing and had no value.  Also, I told him that all he had to do was do a search for similar items and he would know this.  He was very bitter and sent me a lengthy response about how he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay one day.  It was a very strange response.  It made me laugh.  I wish I saved it.  The guy is a total kook.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 18, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
He was very bitter and sent me a lengthy response about how he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay one day.  It was a very strange response.  It made me laugh.  I wish I saved it.  The guy is a total kook.
I did save it 'cause I told him the same thing back in October and got the same response. Here it is:

Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !!

I love the part about how he can't wait to go nuts. Looks like the wait is quite over...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on March 18, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
Wow!  Sounded much like my email.  Thanks for the chuckles.  LOL!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 19, 2012, 05:34:06 PM
I did save it 'cause I told him the same thing back in October and got the same response. Here it is:

Thank you so much for your great insight and is there anyway I could pay you for your vast knowledge, it is priceless to me, you see I know a little about everything and a lot about nothing. SO I will continue to list them, see what I'm really doing is, I'm going to wait until I have a stockpile of 2500 items and I'm going to list them all for a penny each ! It's going to be crazy !!! I can't wait to go nuts !! CaN you imagine finding and packing 2500 items !!! From my experience the more you put on the more you sell, I don't care if I garbage picked it or bought an entire estate !! It will sell, you may even say I talked to that guy once...he's the biggest seller on ebay !!! They call me the Legend !!

I love the part about how he can't wait to go nuts. Looks like the wait is quite over...

It made me laugh again, even the second time reading it. Oh boy, has he listed his 2500 items yet. I am going nuts just waiting for that from the Legend! Legend of crap and jerkyness. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 22, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 22, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.

That's funny. I clicked on it and burst out laughing. Why don't these people have a clue?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 12:34:07 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.

Too funny! It's hard to tell, but doesn't it look like this sticker does not have a die-cut? I don't see any highlight along the kiss-cut edge that you would normally see.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on March 22, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Too funny! It's hard to tell, but doesn't it look like this sticker does not have a die-cut? I don't see any highlight along the kiss-cut edge that you would normally see.

It is really hard to tell but it doesn't look like it has a die-cut. Strange.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on March 22, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
That's funny. I clicked on it and burst out laughing. Why don't these people have a clue?

it looks like RATZ ate part of the border...at least its priced to SELL!!!SELL'M ALL :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
It is really hard to tell but it doesn't look like it has a die-cut. Strange.

Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on March 22, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)

Great to hear from you George. Do you know yet if you will make the Spring Philly Show?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 22, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-JERKYFRUITS-CANDY-Sticker-Card-/270941061534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1558819e

Another sticker that's in "good condition." Though the seller does acknowledge it has a "rough cut edge", LOL.
As soon as I saw it, I LOLed big time. "It has some yellowing on it's edges". Yeah, all 3 of them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 22, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
Great to hear from you George. Do you know yet if you will make the Spring Philly Show?

Hey! How have you been? Yep, I'll be at the Spring Show! I'm going to have a table at this show. Nothing spectacular, a few Wacky odds & ends. It will be the table with the least amount of stuff on it! LOL! I'm primarily going to talk Wackys, trade, etc. I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple) I will also have the original pencil roughs that were submitted to Topps for those pieces. I'm mostly looking forward to reconnecting with everyone!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 22, 2012, 04:16:56 PM
I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple)
oh no! more snubbed titles!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 22, 2012, 06:48:37 PM
Hey! How have you been? Yep, I'll be at the Spring Show! I'm going to have a table at this show. Nothing spectacular, a few Wacky odds & ends. It will be the table with the least amount of stuff on it! LOL! I'm primarily going to talk Wackys, trade, etc. I'm planning on bringing some original rejected Wacky art from titles that were considered, but eventually dumped ("Grosstitos" & "Verbal Essence" to name a couple) I will also have the original pencil roughs that were submitted to Topps for those pieces. I'm mostly looking forward to reconnecting with everyone!

I like that title, Verbal Essence. It's instantly recognizable and make you curious to see it. I remember experiencing the same thing as a kid, when you looked at your puzzle piece checklist and read the titles you didn't yet have. Certain titles made you really anticipate finding that card when opening a pack and finally checking it out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 23, 2012, 12:53:07 AM
oh no! more snubbed titles!!!!!!  :o

Your choice of emoticon says it all! LOL! (btw, I've nicknamed my promo card piece "Snubbed Crackers"!)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 25, 2012, 08:25:08 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wacky-Packages-Wax-Fun-Pack-PSA-7-NM-Highest-and-Only-Graded-Example-/190658296101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c641eb925

Gosh, it gets tedious listening to sellers twist themselves into knots trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. "Only example graded by PSA, only one I can find on ebay...." There are probably a hundred graded by GAI (PSA only became a big pack-grading destination once GAI imploded), and there have been scores on ebay in the past. One of the most common unopened packs in wackydom, but you wouldn't know it from this description.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 25, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Even stranger, are the two faint vertical lines on the left & right of the sticker. Especially the right side ~ at first I thought it was the sticker front sliding off of the backing but, but upon closer examination, those lines look like pencil lines. The right side vertical edge looks like it was hand cut using that line as a guide. It makes me think that it was either an uncut, unscored sheet that someone cut into individual stickers, or, it's a color copy ~ only hole in the color copy theory is that the seller states that this item has a tan back.

(Whooa, I've got to lay off of the caffeine! 2 hours of sleep each night this week is starting to take its toll!)

Ok, which one of you was bidding against me on the JerkyFruits. :)

Seriously, I just had to buy this to see what the hell is up with this card and then I wasn't the only bidder! lol! But I won it! So fess up!  :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on March 26, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
Ok, which one of you was bidding against me on the JerkyFruits. :)

Seriously, I just had to buy this to see what the hell is up with this card and then I wasn't the only bidder! lol! But I won it! So fess up!  :o

Wasn't me, but I'd like to know what the deal with this card is when you get it too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 07:59:06 AM
Wasn't me, but I'd like to know what the deal with this card is when you get it too.

Wasn't me, either! I would also like to know what the deal is with it. I'm leaning toward my two original thoughts: It's either a poorly trimmed, home printed knockoff...  or a poorly trimmed sticker from an unscored sheet. Any other speculations?  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 26, 2012, 08:15:25 AM
Wasn't me, either! I would also like to know what the deal is with it. I'm leaning toward my two original thoughts: It's either a poorly trimmed, home printed knockoff...  or a poorly trimmed sticker from an unscored sheet. Any other speculations?  :]

I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM
I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.

It will be interesting to find out if the seller doesn't have a clue as to what they are actually selling, or if they are a real hack of a counterfeit artist!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on March 26, 2012, 09:04:16 AM
I don't know, but I did search his other auctions and there were several that were like this (not all). All unscored looking and poorly cut.
Maybe he consigns for antiquefloyd.  lol
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
Maybe he consigns for antiquefloyd.  lol

Prolly!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on March 26, 2012, 10:37:02 AM
I'll definitely post the results of my forensic examination once I receive the card. Figured it'll be $1.89 of entertainment one way or another! :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on March 26, 2012, 11:02:14 AM
I'll definitely post the results of my forensic examination once I receive the card. Figured it'll be $1.89 of entertainment one way or another! :)

In this episode of WPCSI...  8)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 02, 2012, 11:06:18 AM
In this episode of WPCSI...  8)

I got the card a few days ago and I decided to start a new thread on the JerkyFruits card here (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2131).

Let's put "WPCSI" in front of any odd cards we find like this as a hint that some kind of investigation is going on (love it, Soremel!).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: deadpresidentsvisa on April 02, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
I got the card a few days ago and I decided to start a new thread on the JerkyFruits card here (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=2131).

Let's put "WPCSI" in front of any odd cards we find like this as a hint that some kind of investigation is going on (love it, Soremel!).
YOU SHOULD HAVE WENT WITH THE CLEMENTE BOBBLEHEAD
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 02, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 02, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)

"THIS IS THE ONLY PERFECT 10 CARD THAT PSA HAS GRADED FROM THIS SET!"  Yeah, because no one is dumb enough to have a tag card graded! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 02, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
Check out the description on this. What a load of crap. :^)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-TOPPS-WACKY-CARD-RARE-POP-1-/230771548023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb0e5f77#ht_531wt_1059)

Amazing. But hey, you get FREE domestic shipping! ;)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on April 02, 2012, 07:39:55 PM
Amazing. But hey, you get FREE domestic shipping! ;)

My little ovals are intact in all my sets!    I must have a fortune !
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on April 09, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
Somehow I don't think these are Topps' approved...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cool-Wacky-Packages-Clock-with-8-classic-wrapper-and-4-sticker-images-/170763789141?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c250a355

Maybe Topps would give me a reward for turning them in? :)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on April 11, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
Somehow I don't think these are Topps' approved...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cool-Wacky-Packages-Clock-with-8-classic-wrapper-and-4-sticker-images-/170763789141?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c250a355

Maybe Topps would give me a reward for turning them in? :)

They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 11, 2012, 03:43:10 PM
They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.
no doubt. that thing is really pathetic. and it seems like they just lifted images off of Greg's site too, as it looks like there are drop shadows around the card images.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 11, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
They could of done a better job at making a Wacky clock. Those shadow boxes someone was making a few years ago were great. Got me a liptorn.

It's absolutely horrible!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on April 11, 2012, 10:47:46 PM
It's absolutely horrible!

Well said! 

It says that there are more than 10 available.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 12, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
Well said! 

It says that there are more than 10 available.  Yikes!
My Guess is that they have an unlimited supply of clocks with empty picture slots that they create for many different topics. If they have a run on wacky clocks, they can fire up the printer and bang out as many as necessary.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 14, 2012, 02:53:58 AM

$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 14, 2012, 09:10:30 AM
$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a

Couple guys that have no clue about the market.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 14, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
Couple guys that have no clue about the market.

In the case of darby-s (Dan McKee), I don't think it's cluelessness about the market so much as optimism that someone will jump at the many rare but low grade items he lists at aggressive prices.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 14, 2012, 12:08:11 PM
In the case of darby-s (Dan McKee), I don't think it's cluelessness about the market so much as optimism that someone will jump at the many rare but low grade items he lists at aggressive prices.

It's funny how that guy never seems to sell anything in nice shape.  Does he use his cards on his bicycle spokes before he tries to sell them?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 14, 2012, 12:19:48 PM

and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a


You know a price is insane when you can take a digit away and it's still a little high! 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 14, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
It's funny how that guy never seems to sell anything in nice shape.  Does he use his cards on his bicycle spokes before he tries to sell them?

My guess would be he is only using ebay to try to move lower quality stuff. He mostly deals in very old BB cards I think. He was once big in wackys, but I haven't seen him being very active in wackys for years, so he may just continually list stuff in the hope of moving it.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: 70s_Kid on April 14, 2012, 05:49:23 PM
It made me laugh again, even the second time reading it. Oh boy, has he listed his 2500 items yet. I am going nuts just waiting for that from the Legend! Legend of crap and jerkyness.  

If he started them at a penny each as he says, he just might sell one...  I don't think he has sold any yet.  So, he is just throwing his money away in listing fees.   I guess he has never heard of quality before quantity...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 14, 2012, 07:01:10 PM
$500 seems a little high 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Wacky-Packages-32-RATZ-CRACKERS-RARE-/280857154877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416464153d


I think $250 is probably a more realistic number. I won a popped Ratz several years ago at auction for a little over $500, but after I found a better one & I tried to sell my punched one - which was in pretty nice shape, I was only able to get $250 for it about a year ago. I find the market soft on all but the hardest to find stuff & the stuff in outsanding condition.


and this is a bit over the top, from guanospray!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-WACKY-PACKAGES-Old-School-Series-One-1-JAY-LYNCH-Sketch-Card-UMBRELLA-/190654946938?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c63eb9e7a


I sold mine about a year ago for $200. It was a very tough 1st series title. Sketch cards have been brutalized lately, so my guess is it would go for much less now, probably closer to $100 if you can even find a buyer.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 18, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
I've been watching this auction in the hopes of picking up a few upgrades for my 14th trifold set. Are these that rare that this bid explosion isn't totally crazy? Does anyone know if there are any really tough titles in this set?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220999581240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 18, 2012, 09:44:33 AM
I've been watching this auction in the hopes of picking up a few upgrades for my 14th trifold set. Are these that rare that this bid explosion isn't totally crazy? Does anyone know if there are any really tough titles in this set?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220999581240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Based on my experience with these they are pretty rare but not enough people collect them for the prices to sell high.  Of course this auction says otherwise.  My experience has been seeing singles selling in the $7.50-$10.00 each range.  I don't believe any titles are rarer than others.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 18, 2012, 09:56:44 AM
Based on my experience with these they are pretty rare but not enough people collect them for the prices to sell high.  Of course this auction says otherwise.  My experience has been seeing singles selling in the $7.50-$10.00 each range.  I don't believe any titles are rarer than others.



That's about right. I sold a near set about 2 years ago and only received about $175. I think it was only missing one card. They weren't NM either so that could be part of it. I really wonder if these are as nice as pictured though. This auction looks like it has 2 guys going after it. That's always great when you're the seller!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 18, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
That's about right. I sold a near set about 2 years ago and only received about $175. I think it was only missing one card. They weren't NM either so that could be part of it. I really wonder if these are as nice as pictured though. This auction looks like it has 2 guys going after it. That's always great when you're the seller!

He also needs to make up for the FB1 gold set auction!  Wouldn't it be something if the tri-fold set sold for more than the FB1 gold set?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2012, 11:44:37 AM
He also needs to make up for the FB1 gold set auction!  Wouldn't it be something if the tri-fold set sold for more than the FB1 gold set?

I get your point, but frankly the tri-folds SHOULD sell for more. I know which set I'd rather have.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 21, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
did someone actually buy one of these sets? I really hope not.

common PC8 set + promo auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item5649e39b9d&item=370606840733&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=HLdZ2HIoJ2603InyCjBSbkBwa%252FM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1264)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on April 21, 2012, 03:47:03 PM
here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILLY-SHOW-EXCLUSIVE-2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-BIO-CARD-SET-RARE-BONUS-/120900065957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c26349aa5 :bs:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on April 21, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
did someone actually buy one of these sets? I really hope not.

common PC8 set + promo auction (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item5649e39b9d&item=370606840733&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=HLdZ2HIoJ2603InyCjBSbkBwa%252FM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1264)


Someone just blew $200 without even bothering to research what they were buying? :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 26, 2012, 07:56:28 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on April 26, 2012, 08:01:37 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

It's either someone who doesn't know it's value or collects the miscuts and it's worth that much to them.  strange. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 26, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
Is there something special about this diecut? I would think it's a $5 to $15 card topps considering its condition & title. Did the miscut triple its value, or does this auction belong in this thread?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item519f01d3e9&item=350560048105&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
I think someone got overly excited because #36 is fairly common.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 30, 2012, 08:55:19 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.
They do look pretty nice though. I agree, they are way over priced. Make him an offer?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 30, 2012, 09:26:06 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.

I saw those too. I'm not sure of the point in listing items at that price unless he hopes to get off ebay offers. I think those numbers would even scare offers away since the prices are so outrageous.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on April 30, 2012, 09:32:46 AM
Check out this latest group of unopened packs to hit ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wacky+wax&_sacat=0&_odkw=wacky&item=251050377643&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_osacat=0&hash=item3a73c4c1ab&_ssn=sellhelper2012

I've heard of aggressive pricing, but WOW! Especially comical are $1000 apiece for a GAI 9 yellow poster pack (I won one exactly like this on ebay for $125) and $1000 for a GAI 8 16th series pack (only about 4-5 times the real value). 2nd and 3rd series packs also around 4-5 times what they should be.

Dave, I know GAI is not reliable at all for getting the series right on packs that shared wrappers between series. I have personally been victim to buying GAI packs labeled with the wrong series. How are they on authentication? I see so few PSA graded packs, and I wonder if they have a higher reject rate & people are wary of submitting & getting rejected...  Considering GAI is unreliebale, they still seem to be where most "authenticated" packs come from on ebay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
Dave, I know GAI is not reliable at all for getting the series right on packs that shared wrappers between series. I have personally been victim to buying GAI packs labeled with the wrong series. How are they on authentication? I see so few PSA graded packs, and I wonder if they have a higher reject rate & people are wary of submitting & getting rejected...  Considering GAI is unreliebale, they still seem to be where most "authenticated" packs come from on ebay.

PSA is definitely the most reliable service for grading wax packs. That said, they have only been doing it for a relatively short time, so most of the existing secondary market of graded packs will be GAI.

I wish I could say that GAI has a spotless record for rejecting fakes, but that's not the case. Some have studied it carefully and
feel more comfortable with certain GAI graded packs based on the era (as reflected by the serial number). I would not be comfortable buying a GAI graded pack sight unseen unless it was returnable.

The source of the pack is much more important to me than it being GAI certified. For example, the 4th series packs from this
seller are clearly the Greg Schwartz packs, which I know are real, so I'd be confident buying those at the right price. The seller needs to add back scans for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Also, as I've pointed out before, be wary of high grade encapsulated packs, because if they are really fresh (ie gum can move around) they will often have tears from the gum penetrating the wrapper. That appears to be the case in this 4th
series pack, for example:

(http://s19.postimage.org/6kzrmqv6r/Picture_1.png)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 30, 2012, 08:13:03 PM
Does anyone know who ebay id topazzer(From Illinois) belongs to?

He seems to be a psychopath who in his first message to me, explained that he knows nothing about Saunders artwork prices but lectured me on my high buy it now prices.  I explained the obvious to the idiot that I list BINS with accepting offers to do off ebay deals.  I questioned why he claims to know nothing about Saunders art prices yet he is lecturing me.....his response:

"You obviously don't understand English.  I've explained myself very well, and you either can't or won't comprehend.  BOTTOM LINE:  You have ADMITTEDLY overpriced the piece on eBay, by YOUR OWN STANDARDS (asking $10K for an item you seem to value at $4K-$7K).  Further, you admitted to fishing for offers for a PRIVATE SALE, which, if not blatantly against eBay rules is certainly "bending" them to some degree to avoid an eBay commission.  Tsk. I don't think eBay would be too pleased with that, would they?  Don't bother to respond to me again, please.  Continue to list your pedestrian piece at high multiples, and maybe say a few prayers that someone eventually will take it off your hands at a high price.  Not familiar with the "forum" you quoted, but anyone frequenting eBay knows there are a lot of unrealistic and greedy sleazebags looking to rip off foolish/desperate/neophyte collectors/buyers. " 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on April 30, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
Does anyone know who ebay id topazzer(From Illinois) belongs to?

He seems to be a psychopath who in his first message to me, explained that he knows nothing about Saunders artwork prices but lectured me on my high buy it now prices.  I explained the obvious to the idiot that I list BINS with accepting offers to do off ebay deals.  I questioned why he claims to know nothing about Saunders art prices yet he is lecturing me.....his response:

"You obviously don't understand English.  I've explained myself very well, and you either can't or won't comprehend.  BOTTOM LINE:  You have ADMITTEDLY overpriced the piece on eBay, by YOUR OWN STANDARDS (asking $10K for an item you seem to value at $4K-$7K).  Further, you admitted to fishing for offers for a PRIVATE SALE, which, if not blatantly against eBay rules is certainly "bending" them to some degree to avoid an eBay commission.  Tsk. I don't think eBay would be too pleased with that, would they?  Don't bother to respond to me again, please.  Continue to list your pedestrian piece at high multiples, and maybe say a few prayers that someone eventually will take it off your hands at a high price.  Not familiar with the "forum" you quoted, but anyone frequenting eBay knows there are a lot of unrealistic and greedy sleazebags looking to rip off foolish/desperate/neophyte collectors/buyers. " 

Never heard of this person but it is true though as I mentioned in my eBay thread. A lot of times buyers don't understand your intentions so they are reluctant to make an off eBay offer as it could be an insult to the seller. Some done even know you can contact a seller to see about getting a better deal. It's just human nature. If you really want to unload put it at the least price you would accept otherwise you will have to deal with these types of responses. Keep in mind people don't like to buy from a stranger without having some type of protection. They don't care if you have to pay fees.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on April 30, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
Never heard of this person but it is true though as I mentioned in my eBay thread. A lot of times buyers don't understand your intentions so they are reluctant to make an off eBay offer as it could be an insult to the seller. Some done even know you can contact a seller to see about getting a better deal. It's just human nature. If you really want to unload put it at the least price you would accept otherwise you will have to deal with these types of responses. Keep in mind people don't like to buy from a stranger without having some type of protection. They don't care if you have to pay fees.
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Hustler08 on May 01, 2012, 05:00:14 AM
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.


He just wants to give you shit - one because you have a piece that's worth big bucks and two he's JEALOUS!!!Now we not only have EVilbay BUT we have EvilBay self-appointed police minnions...that's just SUPER!! :] :] :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 06:06:58 AM
This guy admitted he has no interest in buying art as he has no money.  Also, I declare in my auctions specifically to use the "ask seller a question" to make me offers but they obviously can also use the ebay function of making an offer.  If the buyer is too stupid to comprehend either of those options, I am unlikely to want to deal with him anyway.


I'd say that if he admitted he had no money, and he's not buying anything, you'd have a loooooong wait to get a meaningful answer from him considering he has the time and inclination to find auctions he has no involvement with and to make agressive correspondence. My advice would be to just move on unless you're looking for aggravation, frustration or amusement.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 02:21:12 PM
I'd say that if he admitted he had no money, and he's not buying anything, you'd have a loooooong wait to get a meaningful answer from him considering he has the time and inclination to find auctions he has no involvement with and to make agressive correspondence. My advice would be to just move on unless you're looking for aggravation, frustration or amusement.
I get amusement from things like this but I want go back and forth much longer with the tool as it seems he wants to get nastier and nastier.  I am pretty sure this is the alter id of a regular wacky pack collector and not someone who just happened to stumble on my Norm Saunders ebay auction.   I asked him if he has been critiquing the guy who has been trying to sell the Saunders batman art for months on end for this high BINs and it seems to have shut him up. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 02:22:49 PM
He just wants to give you shit - one because you have a piece that's worth big bucks and two he's JEALOUS!!!Now we not only have EVilbay BUT we have EvilBay self-appointed police minnions...that's just SUPER!! :] :] :]
This truly made me laugh out loud!  I may have to use that phrase "EvilBay self-appointed police minnions".  I used to be the self appointed ebay police but at least I knew what the hell I was talking about.  Now I don't even bother to police ebay as ebay has made it clear they fully condone shilling with the implementation of the protected bidder ids.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
This truly made me laugh out loud!  I may have to use that phrase "EvilBay self-appointed police minnions".  I used to be the self appointed ebay police but at least I knew what the hell I was talking about.  Now I don't even bother to police ebay as ebay has made it clear they fully condone shilling with the implementation of the protected bidder ids.


I got the impression that they instituted the scrambled IDs to prevent people from being solicited by others selling stuff similar to what someone won. I remember people contacting me after I won something & also contacting others that I thought might be interested in something I had to sell because they won or bid on something similar. At the time, I thought it may have been cutting them out of too many deals and hurting their revenues..
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 07:15:27 PM
I got the impression that they instituted the scrambled IDs to prevent people from being solicited by others selling stuff similar to what someone won. I remember people contacting me after I won something & also contacting others that I thought might be interested in something I had to sell because they won or bid on something similar. At the time, I thought it may have been cutting them out of too many deals and hurting their revenues..
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 01, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.

You need to have some way to communicate. I think you can get anyones info by supplying just their username. This includes address and phone number. eBay will notify you that someone inquired about you but that's about it. I've had it happen to me.
Edit- I just double check and you can as long as you are bidding on their auction. It could be a $.99 bid and you can get all their contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 01, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
They can accomplish this without scrambling the ebay id.  If there is no way to contact an ebay member without doing a transaction with them, it doesn't much matter if you had their ebay id as that alone doesn't lend itself to contact info.

If you have someone's ebay ID, you can send them the equivalent of a PM on ebay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 01, 2012, 10:54:42 PM
If you have someone's ebay ID, you can send them the equivalent of a PM on ebay.
Only if you are in a transaction with them or current bidder on their auction. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 05:54:29 AM
You need to have some way to communicate. I think you can get anyones info by supplying just their username. This includes address and phone number. eBay will notify you that someone inquired about you but that's about it. I've had it happen to me.
Edit- I just double check and you can as long as you are bidding on their auction. It could be a $.99 bid and you can get all their contact info.

All you need to be able to do is send an ebay user a question using ebay's messaging system. It could say - "Hey, I saw you like to buy wackys & I have a Ratz diecut in nm. I'm selling for $2500, please contact me at bill@email.com if interested."

I just sent Ernie an "ebay PM" and I have no open transactions with him, and I'm not bidding on any of his items. Hopefully he can confirm if the message went through or it was dropped.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 06:13:59 AM
There are a couple of other noteworthy points regarding contacting ebay members. They provide alternatives to contact buyers from directly reading the IDs from completed auctions, but do require a little creativity & extra work.

1. Aside from the blind PM to a user, you can ask any user with a listing a question. Granted you have to bypass ebay's attempt to automatically answer the question and send you on your way, but as long as you insist on asking the seller, you can send them a message. Once you get to that form, you can ask them about anything & include your e-mail address for an offline response.

2. Although the scrambling IDs prevents direct knowlegde of a winner's ebay user ID, as many of the forum detectives already know from trying to track down rare items like the fang glass, you can watch a seller's feedback, and that will show the buyer's ID for the auction provided the feedback isn't private and the seller leaves feedback.

3. Additionally, the scrambling is not random. Once your ID is scrambled, it's the same in all auctions. Once you confirm a bunch of heavy hitting bidders, you can usually tell who the bidder is even if it's scrambled. I know any sketch auction that has a f**9(x) bidder is Leslie. To confirm, you just have to match the feedback number in the bidder's list to their actual feedback once you look up their ID.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 07:17:48 AM
All you need to be able to do is send an ebay user a question using ebay's messaging system. It could say - "Hey, I saw you like to buy wackys & I have a Ratz diecut in nm. I'm selling for $2500, please contact me at bill@email.com if interested."

I just sent Ernie an "ebay PM" and I have no open transactions with him, and I'm not bidding on any of his items. Hopefully he can confirm if the message went through or it was dropped.
I'm not talking a standard PM, I'm talking about getting someone's Name, address, & Phone number. You can get it all by just bidding on someone's auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 07:31:18 AM
I'm not talking a standard PM, I'm talking about getting someone's Name, address, & Phone number. You can get it all by just bidding on someone's auction.

How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 08:08:51 AM
How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Go to ebay home page. Click on advanced and then click on find contact info.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 02, 2012, 08:22:46 AM


1. Aside from the blind PM to a user, you can ask any user with a listing a question. Granted you have to bypass ebay's attempt to automatically answer the question and send you on your way, but as long as you insist on asking the seller, you can send them a message. Once you get to that form, you can ask them about anything & include your e-mail address for an offline response.

 

I tried to message a seller my e-mail address so he could send me detailed scans once, ebay censored it and it did not go through.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 02, 2012, 08:47:15 AM
I tried to message a seller my e-mail address so he could send me detailed scans once, ebay censored it and it did not go through.

Did they remove the e-mail address or did they block the message? Do you remember how long ago it was? I remember they have limited different types of communication at different times. I regularly send my e-mail address iin messages to ebay sellers without a problem.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 02, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
Did they remove the e-mail address or did they block the message? Do you remember how long ago it was? I remember they have limited different types of communication at different times. I regularly send my e-mail address iin messages to ebay sellers without a problem.

I've had email addresses removed several times but the messages do go through.  I believe this can be circumvented by putting spaces or something that won't be picked up as an email address in ebay's search software.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on May 02, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
I've had email addresses removed several times but the messages do go through.  I believe this can be circumvented by putting spaces or something that won't be picked up as an email address in ebay's search software.

Remember the good old days when people used an actual email address as an ebay ID??  As I recall, after that ended there was the "About Me" link, where people could put links and email addresses.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 02, 2012, 06:27:55 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on May 02, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
How do you do that? Does the seller have to give permission to release all this info?

My read was that Ernie said there was no way to contact an ebayer directly unless you were bidding on their auction or have won something from them.
Actually my main point before this got off target was that ebay scrambling ids prevented being able to track shilllers more than it impacted the ability to contact people for off ebay deals.  So while you were correct that you can contact people without being in a transaction with them, my point is still valid, the scrambling ids deters tracking shillers without a lot of extra work.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.

I know. It drives me crazy. I think the whole Ebay thing is getting way out of control. They seem like Netflix that they thought they could change a bunch of things and no one would care.now we seeNetflix hurting pretty bad. This will/could hurt eBay. The problem with being a a public traded company is you need to please your shareholders and make,ore profit.ebay can't droit with their business model so they are going after all the sellers to comply with their rules. They are trying to attract more buyers. It's all about the buyers while the sellers are getting penalized. It sucks but if you want to sell you have to pay the price and follow the rules. If most boycotted eBay it would fail but at this time it's all we have. You can say there are alternatives butno one will comply because of the of the exposure. I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 02, 2012, 10:00:06 PM
Sorry about all the spelling errors in the previous post. My iPad has a mind of its own. I don't understand why if you backspace a word it soesnt spell check? Is it just my iPad?

Edit- see is soesnt even a word?i just tried to type soesnt and it now wants to change it to doesn't. If I hit backspace it won't change or offer a suggestion.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 03, 2012, 05:41:53 AM
Sorry about all the spelling errors in the previous post. My iPad has a mind of its own. I don't understand why if you backspace a word it soesnt spell check? Is it just my iPad?

Edit- see is soesnt even a word?i just tried to type soesnt and it now wants to change it to doesn't. If I hit backspace it won't change or offer a suggestion.

Just proofread your post and don't rely on spellchecking. I hate spellchecking, it has singlehandedly ruined newspapers. They're no longer properly proofread, so that any word that exists, even if it's used improperly, gets through. Here are sentences you would now see in formerly respectable newspapers:

"Junior Seau found read."
"Pause of death unknown."

Ugh.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2012, 06:27:39 AM
I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!

I think it's a little more complicated than that. There may be a few hundred people here at best compared to millions on ebay. I've listed several items to buy sell or trade here over the past couple of years and gotten little to no response. I also don't see much of a difference between using the classified section and the Buy, Sell or Trade threads. If the selling/trading demand on the forum were ramping up, a better search tool & the like might be warranted in a separate classified area, but the volume is just not there.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 03, 2012, 08:28:42 AM
I think it's a little more complicated than that. There may be a few hundred people here at best compared to millions on ebay. I've listed several items to buy sell or trade here over the past couple of years and gotten little to no response. I also don't see much of a difference between using the classified section and the Buy, Sell or Trade threads. If the selling/trading demand on the forum were ramping up, a better search tool & the like might be warranted in a separate classified area, but the volume is just not there.

I agree.........you may get lucky here on the forum and it's obviously nice to not have fees and deal with fellow collectors that we know, but you are comparing a much smaller scale on the forum vs. ebay.  You get much more exposure on ebay.  Unfortunately there are a lot of collectors who buy Wackys and aren't involved in this forum. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 03, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
I know. It drives me crazy. I think the whole Ebay thing is getting way out of control. They seem like Netflix that they thought they could change a bunch of things and no one would care.now we seeNetflix hurting pretty bad. This will/could hurt eBay. The problem with being a a public traded company is you need to please your shareholders and make,ore profit.ebay can't droit with their business model so they are going after all the sellers to comply with their rules. They are trying to attract more buyers. It's all about the buyers while the sellers are getting penalized. It sucks but if you want to sell you have to pay the price and follow the rules. If most boycotted eBay it would fail but at this time it's all we have. You can say there are alternatives butno one will comply because of the of the exposure. I tried doing the classified thing on this forum but not too many people want to try and it's also sad. Why wouldn't any one want to sell with little to no fees? If everyone sold Wackys on this forums classified and not deal with eBay it would be a huge advantage for all sellers but people are too scared because of the hold that eBay has on people. It takes time for change!

There's a lot of irony in this. If this does in fact cause ebay to become less popular, then this will drive away people. I personally like to sell on ebay do not have to. Especially if it become a big pain to me. If this happens to many other sellers like me then they just might stop because it is just too much of a hassle. I, by the way have a great 100 percent feedback rating and has had at least 97 percent success with hundreds of transactions. The irony is that I know I will buy less off of ebay with these new rules and if everyone else thinks that way, then the greedy shareholders will end up losing out anyway. If they are not going to support me, then why would I support them? Man, does the system have to be set up to send every business down the same toilet?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 03, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
Since we're on the evil bay topic, they now want to impliment or try to get all sellers to have the following:
1 day handling
Tracking by using the print out label through the Paypal process
14 days for a buyer to return an item, even if they just 'change their mind'
Return of payment, but can include the option of a credit.

IMO, these highly recommend changes that evilbay want you to do is total bull.
Has anyone noticed that they are charging an additional final value fee on shipping besides the regular FVF. There have been a number of times in the past few months where I actually undercharged the buyer for shipping because of that. I always tried my best to charge the actual shipping cost and no more, but now it is nearly impossible to calulate. This is because they are pushing/forcing the 'go through paypal and print your label' process. Every time you get a rough idea or feel of about what you get charged in all those Fee's, the next thing you know, you are getting charged more unknowingly in another area. 14 Days for a buyer to return an item even if they just change their mind? WTF - what am I here, Macy's? 1 Day handling? O.K. this is now a full time job, not just casually sell a few items and get them out ASAP when you can.

Are these changes already set with a deadline or are they in discussion? I had heard ebay is trying to move more to an amazon type model with professional sellers, shopping carts & a unified experience. Problem is that ebay has so much more of a garage sale type of feel rather than a store type atmosphere. I don't think the 2 types of business will do well together. Sounds like ebay should spin off a separate division for the casual seller or seller with antique, used or unique type stuff. If they don't a smaller competitor  will probably step in and get the sellers that won't or can't deal with ebay's new rules.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on May 04, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on May 04, 2012, 05:55:55 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9

Holy Crap! At least they have a 14 day return policy. It looks like the same person bidding on them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 04, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
Am I missing something?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-33-Kooloffs-All-Brain-VTG-Card-Good-Condition?item=130687831357&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8189022772113636382

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-Wacky-Ad-24-Cap-n-Crud-VTG-Card-Good-Condition-/130687827713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6d99ff01

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Wacky-Packages-COMMIE-Cleanser-Trading-Card-White-Back-VTG-Card-30-Good-/140744975801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c50de5b9

I think there are only 2 possibilities here - 2 newbies, or a newbie & a shill. I would be VERY surprised if it were the first case because you rarely see borderless junk like this sell at all, much less have 2 people fighting over it for $15 to $20.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 05, 2012, 09:52:47 AM
Holy Crap! At least they have a 14 day return policy. It looks like the same person bidding on them.

But if they bought them actually thinking they were 1969 Wacky Ads then how will they know they screwed up?  Someone would have to tell them.  The items were obviously misrepresented, hopefully unknowingly.     
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 05, 2012, 09:56:43 AM
I think there are only 2 possibilities here - 2 newbies, or a newbie & a shill. I would be VERY surprised if it were the first case because you rarely see borderless junk like this sell at all, much less have 2 people fighting over it for $15 to $20.

I don't think it was a shill because who would bother shilling an item like that that is virtually worthless?  I bet the buyer is a newbie and believed the item description that they are Wacky Ads, and saw other Wacky Ad prices as a comparison.

It's funny because auctions like this that make you scratch your head happen more frequently than you would think.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on May 06, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
I don't think it was a shill because who would bother shilling an item like that that is virtually worthless?  I bet the buyer is a newbie and believed the item description that they are Wacky Ads, and saw other Wacky Ad prices as a comparison.

It's funny because auctions like this that make you scratch your head happen more frequently than you would think.

The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 06, 2012, 05:54:08 PM
The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.

Well at least I know my hunch was correct!  Trust me, most of us that collect Wackys have made similar mistakes early on.  You see something and don't recognize it, and then get excited because it looks like it might be something special, and buy it.  I used to have a quick trigger finger in my first year or two of collecting, but as you learn you figure out you are almost always better off to research and scrutinize carefully before you buy, because 99% of the time it will just be either something misrepresented or just ordinary swill.  With resources like Greg Grant's site, Rusty's site, the Wacky Gallery, and of course this place and other archived forums, the answers can usually be found in there somewhere.

Although it is possible that some sort of test run might still surface, most have already been discovered, and once you've seen a bunch of borderless cards you know what they are as soon as you see them.

Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

  
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 06, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

I think the seller said they were 1969 wacky ads.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 06, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
The newbie, would be me.

I thought they where some sort of undocumented test run using artwork form the ads. It never occurred to me that they were just borderless 2nd series white backed cards.

If the printing is flush with the card and it's not a sticker, might they be unknown cards from the original vending series?  I seriously doubt that possibility now that I've taken a look at a spare Ajerx card, after I removed the border.

It did look flush in the picture, even after knowing what was posted here, when I looked at the pic. I thought the same thing you were thinking about it possibly being something unusual. But, I don't know of any unusual items that fit that criteria except I think the '73 mail in posters of an uncut sheet may have that same look to it when viewing a single title.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on May 07, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Well at least I know my hunch was correct!  Trust me, most of us that collect Wackys have made similar mistakes early on.  You see something and don't recognize it, and then get excited because it looks like it might be something special, and buy it.  I used to have a quick trigger finger in my first year or two of collecting, but as you learn you figure out you are almost always better off to research and scrutinize carefully before you buy, because 99% of the time it will just be either something misrepresented or just ordinary swill.  With resources like Greg Grant's site, Rusty's site, the Wacky Gallery, and of course this place and other archived forums, the answers can usually be found in there somewhere.

Although it is possible that some sort of test run might still surface, most have already been discovered, and once you've seen a bunch of borderless cards you know what they are as soon as you see them.

Are you going to ask for a refund since they were misrepresented in the item description?  If they weren't misrepresented that would be one thing but the seller did say they were all 1967 die-cuts, correct?  

  

Live and learn -  I think I'll keep them, so I have a reminder not jump to conclusions in the future and ask here 1st if I think I found something new and possibly unique.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 07, 2012, 07:08:15 PM
Live and learn -  I think I'll keep them, so I have a reminder not jump to conclusions in the future and ask here 1st if I think I found something new and possibly unique.

Yup, lotsa folks here can tell ya.

Not me so much, I kinda get forgetful if I don't think about or if we don't discuss a certain topic too often. But I do know what I know, ya know?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 09, 2012, 10:55:59 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 09, 2012, 11:10:08 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey

They were gone before I even got to check the auction. Did someone here get it, or was it just a coincidence??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on May 09, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=wrapper+1974%2F75&_sacat=0&_odkw=wrapper+11&_ipg=50&_sop=10&_osacat=0&_ssn=tedjeffrey
Your wish is my command, LOL. I don't even know if I need them, but I'll certainly pass them along to someone, if I don't.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on May 13, 2012, 05:25:24 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 13, 2012, 05:39:49 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db


It's a Mutt's Ajerx? I can see why the seller has a 100% approval rating.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on May 21, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db

The same Mutts that attacked that Ajerx card ate his homework too!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on May 21, 2012, 07:03:15 PM
Here You Go! for any of you missing that hard to find 2nd series card.   :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-2-AJERX-TAN-BACK-/150815836379?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231d5308db


I think my favorite part about that auction is the fact that you can zoom in so close to the card.  You think that thing sucks from far away, take a look with the zoom in feature.  YIKES...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on May 21, 2012, 08:48:01 PM

I think my favorite part about that auction is the fact that you can zoom in so close to the card.  You think that thing sucks from far away, take a look with the zoom in feature.  YIKES...

And it's an ultra rare, hard to find tan back with even tanner front.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on May 21, 2012, 09:01:14 PM
"IT IS MUTTS AJERX" explains everything.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 05:52:23 AM

This is NOT the Croca Cola with the rare back variation (Winter 2010)!....................

(http://s14.postimage.org/hx4ibkty5/Screen_shot_2012_05_22_at_8_49_41_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hx4ibkty5/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 06:03:28 AM
This is NOT the Croca Cola with the rare back variation (Winter 2010)!....................

(http://s14.postimage.org/hx4ibkty5/Screen_shot_2012_05_22_at_8_49_41_AM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hx4ibkty5/)

Yes, I saw that listing too. They were very careful to say the sticker was rare, but not the rarer version of the sticker.  As Greg Brady says... you'd better caveat your emptor for people trying to guild the lily!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 06:15:48 AM
I'm all for paying a bit of a premium for hard to find items, or items that have a vague or interesting history. I think this one is a bit extreme pricewise. Does anyone know anything about its history? I'll bet the bidders may have thought it's a very rare wacky ad to spend this much. A decent GoodnEmpty just finished last week for $510 - only $75 more!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item25708a0c83&item=160801885315&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221020725745&nma=true&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 22, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
I can't understand why anyone values these lost wackys highly. They're cool to look at, but why should they be worth any
more than a Ratz or Cracked repro? They were made up by a collector, one might as well cut the image out of the gallery
and paste it onto a card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 07:38:08 AM
I can't understand why anyone values these lost wackys highly. They're cool to look at, but why should they be worth any
more than a Ratz or Cracked repro? They were made up by a collector, one might as well cut the image out of the gallery
and paste it onto a card.

I also think they (lost wacky items - stickers, this card, test stickers & posters) are cool to look at. They have lost art that was never used for an actual wacky, yet was produced by the original artists at the same time as the original wackys were released. The quality is good too. Dedicated people to the hobby worked to produce items that were true to the original series. For these reasons, I believe the lost wackys in general are noteworthy. These reasons would also cause me to try and get a copy, even at a bit of a premium. IMO, this premium is too much for me.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
I'm all for paying a bit of a premium for hard to find items, or items that have a vague or interesting history. I think this one is a bit extreme pricewise. Does anyone know anything about its history? I'll bet the bidders may have thought it's a very rare wacky ad to spend this much. A decent GoodnEmpty just finished last week for $510 - only $75 more!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item25708a0c83&item=160801885315&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=221020725745&nma=true&rt=nc&si=4lILs6AD97Mtgsu6WHhr91PUD9k%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

LOL, that's crazy.......I have one of those that I use a filler for the open spot in my binder book.  I think I paid $5.00 for it.  I can see paying maybe $20.00 for one, but over $400.00??  There's a very good chance it was done on a home printer too.  I think some people think that some of these Lost Wackys are some how special, like something Topps had printed at one point and then they somehow leaked out into the market.  If they knew some of them were simply repro's done on some dude's home ink-jet printer I doubt they would pay that much for it!   



 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on May 22, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
LOL, that's crazy.......I have one of those that I use a filler for the open spot in my binder book.  I think I paid $5.00 for it.  I can see paying maybe $20.00 for one, but over $400.00??  There's a very good chance it was done on a home printer too.  I think some people think that some of these Lost Wackys are some how special, like something Topps had printed at one point and then they somehow leaked out into the market.  If they knew some of them were simply repro's done on some dude's home ink-jet printer I doubt they would pay that much for it!   



 
I'll take it for $20 if you're selling...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on May 22, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
I'll take it for $20 if you're selling...

Ha! it's in my keeper set and very little comes out of there once it goes in!  Ask Rusty if he'll print you one.  I haven't dug into it but I bet they are from him.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 01, 2012, 11:58:02 PM
eBay auction: #160809834033
Comes in a protective case!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 02, 2012, 02:46:16 AM
eBay auction: #160809834033
Comes in a protective case! Nuff said!

Looks like it was way too late.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 02, 2012, 08:10:08 AM
Looks like it was way too late.

If this actually sells, I'm going to start selling used toilet paper in protective cases...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 02, 2012, 10:55:31 AM

Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 02, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)


Hmmm, I seem to see more of the "Winter 2010" than the "February 2010" available on eBay... What is the source of the two variations?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 02, 2012, 05:46:30 PM
Spending ~$30 on even the more rare variation seems a bit NUTS to me.

Curious: were the three of these always won with just one bid?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 02, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
If this actually sells, I'm going to start selling used toilet paper in protective cases...

I would consider buying this item for $3, just to see your used tp auction!  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 03, 2012, 11:30:53 AM
Hmmm, I seem to see more of the "Winter 2010" than the "February 2010" available on eBay... What is the source of the two variations?

The original ones were the "winter" variation and were quickly changed to "February".  The "Winter" ones were handed-out at the 2009 Fall Philly Show, but all after that were changed to "February 2010".  The "Winter" ones have always been very common.  I think I had a stack of @ 20 of them at one point because Topps was throwing them in with various online items. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 03, 2012, 12:30:19 PM
The original ones were the "winter" variation and were quickly changed to "February".  The "Winter" ones were handed-out at the 2009 Fall Philly Show, but all after that were changed to "February 2010".  The "Winter" ones have always been very common.  I think I had a stack of @ 20 of them at one point because Topps was throwing them in with various online items. 

I thought the 'Winter' version was the tougher one.  I know I have extras of the February version.  And, although the winter version was originally from a Philly show, I didn't specify origins in the postcard master list because I received one of that version in an order from Topps.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 03, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
I thought the 'Winter' version was the tougher one.  I know I have extras of the February version.  And, although the winter version was originally from a Philly show, I didn't specify origins in the postcard master list because I received one of that version in an order from Topps.


The Winter is the tougher variation. I have a few Feb. ones but I had to pay some bucks for the Winter card.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 04, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Damn it, now I gotta check if mines is Winter or February.  >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 04, 2012, 08:54:50 PM
Damn it, now I gotta check if mines is Winter or February.  >(

Or the blank back variation.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on June 04, 2012, 09:43:41 PM
Or the blank back variation.

I thought there were at least three variations, possibly four?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 04, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Why are these selling this high?  This isn't the rarer version and it's like the 3rd one I've seen sell in the $25.00 range..............

(http://s16.postimage.org/ipfztxq41/Screen_shot_2012_06_02_at_1_53_04_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ipfztxq41/)


According to the auction description, this item is ďHTFĒ      I havenít seen that one before      Maybe the proper reply is    :wtf:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 05, 2012, 08:46:29 AM
I thought there were at least three variations, possibly four?
My recollection is there are three.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
My recollection is there are three.
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 05, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.

Now the blank back must be HTF.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 05, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
There are 3. The one not mentioned is the blank back with feb on the front.

That's right, and that one is die-cut unlike the other two.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on June 05, 2012, 02:26:36 PM
That's right, and that one is die-cut unlike the other two.

And it's a sticker, whereas the promos with Winter and February reverses are cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
Now the blank back must be HTF.

No, you can get them pretty cheap on ebay. I don't have any extras though.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 05, 2012, 03:07:07 PM
And it's a sticker, whereas the promos with Winter and February reverses are cards.

Look at that, it's right there in Pat's amazing master list thread. I wonder if we should add rare and common to each item?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 05, 2012, 06:23:51 PM
No, you can get them pretty cheap on ebay. I don't have any extras though.

Just checked my Croca Cola's. Have 2 w/promo backs w/o Feb on the fronts and 1 blank back w/coming Feb on front, no winters.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on June 05, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
Just saw these on eBay:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-pack-Senior-Mints-card-32-/270992411990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18680d56#ht_500wt_1218 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/wacky-pack-Senior-Mints-card-32-/270992411990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f18680d56#ht_500wt_1218) , are these two used ANS2 stickers someone mistakenly thinks are worth $40 or $50?

There's also a re-stuck (?) Paul Mall going for $4.99: http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-CARD-PAUL-MAUL-NICE-CARD-/160817374444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25717664ec#ht_500wt_985 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-CARD-PAUL-MAUL-NICE-CARD-/160817374444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25717664ec#ht_500wt_985) soon to be followed by 200 more cards ... guess even some "top rated" sellers don't know what they're selling?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 05, 2012, 08:11:05 PM

There's also a re-stuck (?) Paul Mall going for $4.99:
they're right - it would be hard to find another one like it!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 06, 2012, 06:26:10 AM
they're right - it would be hard to find another one like it!

That's true......I've never seen a re-stick at quite that angle before.   
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 18, 2012, 10:17:27 AM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 18, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


It is too bad PSA makes no allowances for eye appeal. Some of the 1st series PSAs can be very yellow too. The 4th, 5th & 6th can have very ugly spotting/tanning and that also has no effect on the grade. Sometimes it's hard to tell from the auction pictures how bad it is until you see it in person.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on June 18, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


It's very hard to tell from scans through the holders. It could be shadows and such. It does look a bit yellow but it could be the scanner.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on June 18, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
This doesn't really qualify for this thread in the strictest sense, but is it me or my monitor or does it look like the yellowest, smudgiest PSA 8 ever? I think mine would be at least an 11, then...lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280903451109


Good rule of thumb...contrast against the PSA boarder.   This is the PSA i have my eye on...or is it i just cant see through the smoke?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6th-Series-6-Virgina-Slums-PSA-9-MINT-/380374674443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589018ec0b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 21, 2012, 02:21:44 PM
Good rule of thumb...contrast against the PSA boarder.   This is the PSA i have my eye on...or is it i just cant see through the smoke?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Topps-Wacky-Packages-6th-Series-6-Virgina-Slums-PSA-9-MINT-/380374674443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589018ec0b

Wow, the smoke must of came right out of the card itself. A true Viginia Slum. The white boarder looks to be, not so white anymore. Mine must be at least a PSA 14 and it's not perfect by all means. I don't know, maybe the seller tried to take the worst possible picture? That PSA boarder is at least 20 shades whiteter, whiter? whiteier?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 23, 2012, 08:12:39 AM
This is not nuts, just don't know where else to post it. I know there aren't too many wrapper completists out there, but these 11th series yellow wrappers are difficult to find in nice shape. Somebody snap them up!


Tedjeffrey keeps listing more and more of these 11th yellow wrappers. Before the last year or two they were very difficult to find in high grade. Just a guess, but my spidey sense tells me that a certain well-heeled collector has been opening 11th yellow packs (the ones that originated from Greg Schwartz) to submit singles to PSA. So these may not be that rare anymore, but it's certainly a good time to pick them up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-5-Topps-Wacky-Packages-11th-14th-Series-SET-of-ALL-3-WAX-PACK-WRAPPERS-85-/160829970391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25723697d7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 23, 2012, 11:56:04 AM
Tedjeffrey keeps listing more and more of these 11th yellow wrappers. Before the last year or two they were very difficult to find in high grade. Just a guess, but my spidey sense tells me that a certain well-heeled collector has been opening 11th yellow packs (the ones that originated from Greg Schwartz) to submit singles to PSA. So these may not be that rare anymore, but it's certainly a good time to pick them up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-5-Topps-Wacky-Packages-11th-14th-Series-SET-of-ALL-3-WAX-PACK-WRAPPERS-85-/160829970391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25723697d7

How many packs do you think were available for cracking? I think this lot of wrappers wasn't in as nice shape. At least 2 of the 4 had tears.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 23, 2012, 01:05:13 PM
How many packs do you think were available for cracking? I think this lot of wrappers wasn't in as nice shape. At least 2 of the 4 had tears.

I'm not sure. There were 48 11th yellow packs to start with, but I'm not sure how many he ended up with. I do think some others were sold on ebay individually before he bought what was left.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sunsweat on June 24, 2012, 09:24:54 AM
Hi Dave,


I consigned those 11th wrappers through TedJeffrey.  I bought them off a fellow collector who had opened them as a child.  Most are in nice shape, but a few have tears.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 24, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
Hi Dave,


I consigned those 11th wrappers through TedJeffrey.  I bought them off a fellow collector who had opened them as a child.  Most are in nice shape, but a few have tears.

I guess my Spidey senses are off this week! Thanks for the info. While nothing super-major, still a pretty cool find.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 25, 2012, 09:51:28 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on June 25, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


I think the whole description makes me shake my head.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 25, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


"sirsellsum" should change his eBay ID to "sirclueless"! it's too bad that they look like they went through a couple of rinse cycles because there appear to be some original OPC stickers in the bunch ~ would be total torture to find if some of the 2nd series titles were OPC's... sigh....
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 25, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


He's really WackEy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 25, 2012, 03:43:49 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262

good god, even $4.44 would be too much for this mildew ridden, silverfish chewed mess of crap.

just look at that lavirus! gah!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/205cmbk.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: chipereno on June 25, 2012, 05:11:57 PM
"Very short life due to Proctor and Gamble making them stop production. A rare collection of history."


I'm calling Proctor and Gamble tomorrow and ask if Topps can continue to print Wackeys!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on June 25, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
"Very short life due to Proctor and Gamble making them stop production. A rare collection of history."


I'm calling Proctor and Gamble tomorrow and ask if Topps can continue to print Wackeys!

I'd suggest talking to Gamble. I hear Proctor's a dick.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 25, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
This fits in this thread best, but I'm unsure the seller is nuts. Delusional, misinformed, illiterate, maybe...the SNL reference makes me shake my head.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160831264262


I love the lines from the description "This is a very slippery slope for retail products so you won't find anything like them ever again. Earliest know parody before SNL"  Someone should inform the people who produced BALLY HOO magazine back in the '40s and '50s, or even National Lampoon, MAD, and CRACKED pre-SNL that they were not creating parodies. And what is it that Topps, Fleer, Zeebs, Wax Eye, and others have been doing since? Gotta love it when historians sell on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Gurgle on June 25, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
I think the whole description makes me shake my head.

What a terrible history lesson!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on June 25, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
I love the lines from the description "This is a very slippery slope for retail products so you won't find anything like them ever again. Earliest know parody before SNL"  Someone should inform the people who produced BALLY HOO magazine back in the '40s and '50s, or even National Lampoon, MAD, and CRACKED pre-SNL that they were not creating parodies. And what is it that Topps, Fleer, Zeebs, Wax Eye, and others have been doing since? Gotta love it when historians sell on eBay.

Wait, didn't SNL invent comedy? You mean people joked around and laughed before SNL. Amazing. That Lavirus card looks like the contents of the Lavirus came right out of the bottle, would make a good paring with the Virginia Slums card mentioned recently on this thread.  :great:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 25, 2012, 09:17:49 PM
I guess I am too late.  You all stated my thoughts already.  Especially the one about not buying it for $4.44.  LOL!  That was going to be my line.

I love the commentary here.  Keep up the good work everyone.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on June 26, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
I guess I am too late.  You all stated my thoughts already.  Especially the one about not buying it for $4.44.  LOL!  That was going to be my line.

I love the commentary here.  Keep up the good work everyone.

If you read the seller's feedback it's looks like he's screwed at least a couple sellers on some high priced items.  Even if these were all Ludlows in nice shape I would avoid a seller like that.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on June 26, 2012, 08:26:59 AM
...this mildew ridden, silverfish chewed mess of crap.
LOL!! Unlike the seller's, an accurate description for this auction.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on June 27, 2012, 01:32:24 AM
If you read the seller's feedback it's looks like he's screwed at least a couple sellers on some high priced items.  Even if these were all Ludlows in nice shape I would avoid a seller like that.

The seller has received another negative feedback since they listed the "Wackey Package by Top"! Warning, warning, Will Robinson... :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 28, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 28, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
"sirsellsum" should change his eBay ID to "sirclueless"!

BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 28, 2012, 12:33:05 PM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f



By 2040 you will be able to make your own indistinquishable copy with the "matter printers" that will be common in that era. I will keep mine in the trunk of my flying car.   Can you tell I just returned from my vacation in 2042? That reminds me, the Tardis was a bit wobbily on the return. Need to get that checked.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on June 28, 2012, 12:35:42 PM
BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1

Do you think there was ever a point at the US mint where the money designers were stumped at what "catch phrase" to put on the reverse side of the coin and one turned to the others and asked , "A thought for your pennies?"   Just wonderin'
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on June 28, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
BTW, sirclueless has a nice shiny penny for up sale      :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-English-penny-rare-coin-in-good-condition-Nice-shine-/160831336433?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item25724b6ff1

That is a nice penny.  I have been on the hunt for a shiny one for some time now.  Should I pay the $7 buy it now or try to hold out for the $5?  Hmmm....Tough decision. ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 03, 2012, 07:32:33 AM
I'd hate to be the consignor of these unopened packs "sellhelper" is helping sell. He started from asking prices 4 to 6 times realistic value on some of these. After a couple of months, he's lowered a couple by maybe 5%. At this rate they should definitely sell by 2040.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f



Oh well, the 6% off sale is over. Back to the original prices! LOL, I'm at least impressed he has a bid of $36 on a 7th gumless pack with two days to go. It's a GAI 8.5, but that's still a good price considering how ultra common these are in high grade.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Moron Salt on August 03, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251121883468?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

good for a laugh :D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 03, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251121883468?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

good for a laugh :D

"IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A DIFFERENT BUY IT NOW PRICE"
Maybe one with the decimal point moved three places to the left. Jeeeez!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on August 03, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
"IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND A DIFFERENT BUY IT NOW PRICE"
Maybe one with the decimal point moved three places to the left. Jeeeez!

I think maybe four places to the left.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on August 04, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
I think maybe four places to the left.......

I just sent him this message.........

"Send me a $10.00 gift paypal and I'll take this off your hands for you."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 07, 2012, 05:43:42 AM
this guy has some seriously high expectations for a bunch of common wrappers. BIN $350???

eBay auction: # 290756638769

"MANY of these are rare to VERY RARE and are VERY TOUGH to come by!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 07, 2012, 09:28:52 AM
this guy has some seriously high expectations for a bunch of common wrappers. BIN $350???

eBay auction: # 290756638769

"MANY of these are rare to VERY RARE and are VERY TOUGH to come by!"

Actual value = $15-20 max
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on August 07, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Actual value = $15-20 max

It looks like he has two 1st Series UK wrappers mixed in with a couple of those lots ~ too bad they're included in over priced lots of common wrappers  :-[
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 17, 2012, 10:20:49 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 17, 2012, 10:41:15 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964

Ya got me on this one... I could see someone trying to possibly sell this off to a Lady Gaga fan or collector who is not familiar with what WP prices would be but the seller doesn't even reference it that way in the subject line (like "LADY GAGA PARODY" for example).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on August 17, 2012, 10:46:01 AM
OK, what am I missing here?

eBay auction: #251132649964

Okay, first thing I want to make clear is that seller is NOT me! LOL!

I think it's obvious why they are asking such a high price... it's sideways! All of mine are vertical, this is one of the "L@@K-RARE-VHTF" horizontal versions of this sticker. You do know that this means a WHOLE sheet got cut this way! (try putting a set of those together!) :o
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 23, 2012, 11:10:16 AM
Hmmmm. Place another tick mark in the "clueless" category.

I may ask them how far up their ass this seller went to find that starting price...

eBay auction: #221113668501
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on August 23, 2012, 05:16:29 PM
Hmmmm. Place another tick mark in the "clueless" category.

I may ask them how far up their ass this seller went to find that starting price...

eBay auction: #221113668501

Seems likely they either think that's the rare one, or don't know, or are hoping some poor schmuck will buy it who doesn't know.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on August 23, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
Seems likely they either think that's the rare one, or don't know, or are hoping some poor schmuck will buy it who doesn't know.
I'd say all of the above.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on August 27, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
Okay, first thing I want to make clear is that seller is NOT me! LOL!

I think it's obvious why they are asking such a high price... it's sideways! All of mine are vertical, this is one of the "L@@K-RARE-VHTF" horizontal versions of this sticker. You do know that this means a WHOLE sheet got cut this way! (try putting a set of those together!) :o

Whoa, never noticed that untiil you pointed it out. Checked mine out to see if it was the same and it was upside down with a black boarder! LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on August 29, 2012, 03:21:08 AM
"SCARCE 1974 TOPPS WACKY PACKAGE POSTERS UNOPENED 5 PACK LOT FROM UNOPENED CASE"

eBay auction: #370641560744

So if they are from an unopened case, how did they get the boxes and packs out?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 29, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
"SCARCE 1974 TOPPS WACKY PACKAGE POSTERS UNOPENED 5 PACK LOT FROM UNOPENED CASE"

eBay auction: #370641560744

So if they are from an unopened case, how did they get the boxes and packs out?

Two words: Kitty Pryde
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 01, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 01, 2012, 03:18:18 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829
OMG.
And a bunch of those originals are borderless or restuck. Not that it matters at $5K. What a maroon.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 03, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829

Imagine if they were worth that - how much we all have here!

That's Sooo far off base, I couldn't even call it wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 04, 2012, 11:05:15 AM
Um....hmmmm...is it my monitor or does this look like it has significant foxing in the border? This got a 10?!?! Wonder if the grader's seeing eye dog agreed with him?

eBay auction: #350594647878
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 04, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Um....hmmmm...is it my monitor or does this look like it has significant foxing in the border? This got a 10?!?! Wonder if the grader's seeing eye dog agreed with him?

eBay auction: #350594647878

Thats what it appears like... although, the picture is poor enough quality, its hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 11:06:32 AM
Just....LOL.

eBay auction: #271055832762
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on September 10, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Just....LOL.

eBay auction: #271055832762

Wow! What a steal!

Only interesting thing there is how weird the actual sticker outline looks when peeled. Checked and it really was die-cut like that. Bizarre.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Wow! What a steal!
It wasn't really the bid amounts that cracked me up, it was the description. "Off center (OC) but Near Mint condition". That's bizarre.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 10, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
It wasn't really the bid amounts that cracked me up, it was the description. "Off center (OC) but Near Mint condition". That's bizarre.
NM - well, other than the rounded corners and scuffed edges and possibly a crease or two...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
NM - well, other than the rounded corners and scuffed edges and possibly a crease or two...
It could also be fixed: peel it off and restick it centered. Now, it's NM and centered, LOL!! What a friggin' dufus seller.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 14, 2012, 08:10:48 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180968737051?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Yup, one can find an old plastic Shedds bucket for like $10, get a rubber stamper made to say "wacky packages inside" and score a cool $300.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on September 16, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
Will the next clueless eBay seller sign in, please?

eBay auction: #251144439829


Oh man! Someone has actually bid on this one. Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on September 17, 2012, 06:24:18 AM

Oh man! Someone has actually bid on this one. Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Some-Rare-And-Some-New-Wacky-Package-Cards-Very-Nice-Collectable-Set-/251152492955?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79dae99b)

Smells like an inside job!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 17, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Although the starting bid has dropped by $1500. :]
Not true. That was the original starting bid, as ridiculous as it is. The BIN is now gone, which was $1500 above that (at $5000). I think George is Wright (lol)...smells shilly to me, too.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ratchet007 on September 17, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
Not true. That was the original starting bid, as ridiculous as it is. The BIN is now gone, which was $1500 above that (at $5000). I think George is Wright (lol)...smells shilly to me, too.

Considering that the "bidder" has no feedback rating, I would say this smells worse than fishy.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 17, 2012, 01:03:32 PM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 17, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336

From the description... "12 in all they are scotch taped togeter from back ok so you no but you might be able to get it off a few duck taped to ok///thanks"

This appears to be either encoded invasion orders or a recipe for General Tso's chicken (with duck substitute).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrSushi on September 17, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
From the description... "12 in all they are scotch taped togeter from back ok so you no but you might be able to get it off a few duck taped to ok///thanks"

This appears to be either encoded invasion orders or a recipe for General Tso's chicken (with duck substitute).

Ha!

Or maybe it's the summary of a porn movie loosely based on the horror movie Centipede?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 18, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Return of Lizard Boy?

eBay auction: #180975282336

That is definitely lizard boy style text.  Could very well be him.  Just dissapointed there are no lizard pics this time.  Maybe the lizard is in the great desert in the sky!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 18, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 18, 2012, 08:05:19 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317

I've tried to figure out his pricing strategy but it seems to be all over the map. If it doesn't sell he'll probably drop it a bit and that doesn't sell he will go the bidding route. The thing is if they don't sell within 2 days of a BIN you have over priced it because there are about 3-4 sketch collectors that will suck them up pretty fast if the price is right. Just look at completed auctions.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2012, 09:09:34 PM
I think Gary has blown a fuse. He doesnt always have the worst prices but he's lost it with this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OOP-ANS-7-Wacky-Packages-SKETCH-CARD-Gulp-Oil-Can-Monkey-Brent-Engstrom-/280970552087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416b266317
Since when were logic and gary every directly linked?  ;D
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 19, 2012, 09:00:13 AM
So, now that a nearly identical graded pack just sold in auction format on ebay for $172, I wonder if ol' sellhelper might consider lowering his asking price on this one, which is 4 times the ebay sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Topps-Wacky-Package-3rd-Series-Unopened-Wax-Pack-GAI-8-NM-MT-/221036263807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3376c9b97f
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:13:35 AM
What is this garbage?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:18:52 AM
I pulled this very Simko Witch a few weeks ago and I currently own it.  Is this person downloading sketch images from Ebay, printing them and then re-applying them to tan backs?  This is the type of stuff that has to stop.  I can't believe people are buying this stuff.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Zenergizer on September 21, 2012, 07:28:10 AM
huh?...it says "reprints" without any further explanation, so we can only assume
that the seller is copying the sketches and manufacturing his/her own cards?

If that's the case, nothing surprises me how far people will go to make a buck.
Shameful if it's true!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on September 21, 2012, 07:34:47 AM
Look at the items and prices of the closed Ebay postings that this seller has already sold.   Reprints of Good and Plenty, Bandache, Ludlows, Sketches etc.  Is it shame on the seller or shame on the buyer?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 21, 2012, 08:49:42 AM
Is it shame on the seller or shame on the buyer?
Both. This guy is "King of the Fakes", it seems.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Soremel on September 21, 2012, 09:50:59 AM
huh?...it says "reprints" without any further explanation, so we can only assume
that the seller is copying the sketches and manufacturing his/her own cards?

If that's the case, nothing surprises me how far people will go to make a buck.
Shameful if it's true!


This specific trend is the reason that I have scans of all of the sketch cards that I recently drew. Not so much for the pencil sketches, but more for the b&w ink renderings. This way, if any of my cards make it to eBay, and are misrepresented, faked, colored in, etc., I can blow the whistle on the seller. This may sound like overkill, but it is extremely frustrating to see it becoming a common practice for some sellers to be making good money on swill and/or altered sketch cards.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jaylynch on September 21, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
These aren't even GOOD fakes, though.  Here's an interesting art forgery tale on Bhob Stewart's blog.  http://potrzebie.blogspot.com/2010/07/norman-rockwell-mystery-solved.html
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 21, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
What is this garbage?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Wacky-Pack-Old-School-Series-3-Sketch-Cards-Packages-Color-/120989013965?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2b81d7cd

The irony is Matt Stock bought them....HaHa
This really is sad though. You really need to read the full description. Funny that Matt got what was coming to him on this lot.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 21, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
People are leaving positive feedback on this guys fake stuff. I sent messages to the guys that paid almost $300 for the Band-Ache and the one that paid $200 for the Good and Empty. I'm curious if they knew it was a fake and if they could tell when they got it. I'll post their reply if they do reply.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on September 21, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
The irony is Matt Stock bought them....HaHa
This really is sad though. You really need to read the full description. Funny that Matt got what was coming to him on this lot.

Matt "Ted Turner" Stock... Maybe he plans to colorized them and flip them back on eBay.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on September 21, 2012, 07:26:30 PM
People are leaving positive feedback on this guys fake stuff. I sent messages to the guys that paid almost $300 for the Band-Ache and the one that paid $200 for the Good and Empty. I'm curious if they knew it was a fake and if they could tell when they got it. I'll post their reply if they do reply.
All that going to happen is these people will put them back on Ebay in the future and it will sour all of the new people coming into the hobby.  I am so glad I collect for my enjoyment not for profit.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on September 22, 2012, 01:00:33 AM
Another one where free shipping makes all the difference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-TOPPS-EXCLUSIVE-WACKY-PACKAGES-POSTERS-SERIES-1-SEALED-BOX-18-PKS-WOW-/221123793911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337c0153f7
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 22, 2012, 05:23:47 AM
All that going to happen is these people will put them back on Ebay in the future and it will sour all of the new people coming into the hobby.  I am so glad I collect for my enjoyment not for profit.

Most people collect for enjoyment, even those pursuing high dollar items. Let's be honest, how many people are buying up ludlows or high grade die cuts planning to flip them? This MO might make some sense for sketches (short term), but with vintage items I don't think it happens much.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 22, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
I got replies back from the 2 I sent message to.

Dear wackypackagesforum,

..... thankfully, I didn't pay anything. After the auction ended, in which I was high bidder, I looked at the sellers other items, and past items, and saw that they were Holy Grails of Wacky Packs. This roused my suspicions, so I re-re-read the auction, noticed the "perfect reproduction" and and then asked if they were repros. My first response from the seller was that he would hold me to my contract. I told him that I was an eBay memeber since 1999, so knew the rules, and welcomed this, as I would then question whether or not he violated Topps copyrights. He then voided the auction. I heard from another buyer who purchased a Good and Empty - same thing. Since the seller cancelled the auction, I left positive feedback, only becuase he did communicate and did close the auction. Looks like he still have 100% positive feedback. BUt yes - his description, while strictly correct was intentionally confusing.

I went to your forum - pretty interesting - I may join.

Cheers


______________________________________________________________________

Thanks for letting me know but I knew already. I knew when I saw I won the auction and I saw the price. I have a bad habit of throwing auctions into esnipe with a low bid just to track what they went for. I read the description but missed the repro part.....it was at the end of a long description. Anyway, I complained to the guys and asked to cancel the transaction and he did.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on September 22, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
Can one or more of the artists here with solid Topps' contacts let them know about this guy? I keep letting eBay know via the reporting mechanism but somehow I don't think it is working...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 22, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
Can one or more of the artists here with solid Topps' contacts let them know about this guy? I keep letting eBay know via the reporting mechanism but somehow I don't think it is working...
The seller is clearly a con artist as he runs one day auctions knowing ebay won't react fast enough to end them.  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured.  Not much we can do about it as I am sure Topps won't be bothered with this as Topps has been very selective about when they want to protect their copyright.  The most that can be done is to continue to contact winning bidders and under bidders as I am sure this con artist is contacting under bidders after his winners back out.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BRUTE_88 on September 22, 2012, 04:20:39 PM
The seller is clearly a con artist as he runs one day auctions knowing ebay won't react fast enough to end them.  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured.  Not much we can do about it as I am sure Topps won't be bothered with this as Topps has been very selective about when they want to protect their copyright.  The most that can be done is to continue to contact winning bidders and under bidders as I am sure this con artist is contacting under bidders after his winners back out.

How is it even possible to contact the winning bidders to warn them?  I thought Ebay made this option impossible years ago...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on September 22, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
How is it even possible to contact the winning bidders to warn them?  I thought Ebay made this option impossible years ago...
Brad seems to be doing it, I am not really sure, I gave up on this practice years ago as I found policing this hobby to be unrewarding.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 22, 2012, 07:59:31 PM
You can't send messages to people bidding because its tough to tell, other than the usual suspects. I looked at his feedback and messaged those people.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 24, 2012, 01:29:24 PM
  His suggesting he would hold someone to the ebay contract furthers that his intent is to deceive and then play dirty unless he is pressured. 

That is disturbing. What a jerk (to be nice).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 24, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
. . . I found policing this hobby to be unrewarding.

Also, I imagine sometimes hazardous conditions, low pay, and no 401K match
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on September 24, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Also, I imagine sometimes hazardous conditions, low pay, and no 401K match

LOL Plus no Christmas Vacation, crazy hours. At least you get Cooler talk right here on the forum!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 25, 2012, 09:53:01 AM
Is this the same "fake king" creating these repro 5 cent Ad wrappers? Now, he's beginning to piss me off!!

eBay auction: #120990851488
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on September 25, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
Is this the same "fake king" creating these repro 5 cent Ad wrappers? Now, he's beginning to piss me off!!

eBay auction: #120990851488

It is. These are all fakes. What a scumbag!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on September 25, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
It is. These are all fakes. What a scumbag!

Are those perfs actually cut?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 25, 2012, 04:38:09 PM
Are those perfs actually cut?
yep, sure looks like it.  although compared to the real deal, those cuts are UGLY.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: blunderbrent on September 25, 2012, 06:49:20 PM
I had several email exchanges with this seller today to determine the authenticity of the Wacky Ad wrappers. It took 2 back and forths before he fessed they were repros.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BustedFinger on September 25, 2012, 07:15:35 PM
Has this guy always been putting this blurb at the bottom of his descriptions?

Please make sure you understand this auction and if you don't all you have to do is ask.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on September 26, 2012, 06:49:55 AM

Has anyone emailed him expressing the negative to the hobby affects of what he is doing?  I know he probably only cares about profit but sometimes a little pressure from multiple sources can be affective.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 26, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-1977-Original-Wacky-Packages-16th-Series-Floral-Cigarettes-white-back-/271069157518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1cfb188e


Nuff Said!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 26, 2012, 01:41:50 PM
Has this guy always been putting this blurb at the bottom of his descriptions?

Please make sure you understand this auction and if you don't all you have to do is ask.
Me thinkest that is fairly new due to all the questions he's getting...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on September 26, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
Has anyone emailed him expressing the negative to the hobby affects of what he is doing?  I know he probably only cares about profit but sometimes a little pressure from multiple sources can be affective.
I am tempted to do this, but afraid it'll just be a waste of my time.
Title: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: gumby8691 on September 28, 2012, 08:25:43 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist. I always love when they start with something like "I am the original owner, blah, blah,..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-150-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-1974-SERIES-3-4-5-6-9-GREAT-DEAL-/200825796641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2267821
Title: Re: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: Playbug on September 28, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist. I always love when they start with something like "I am the original owner, blah, blah,..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-150-WACKY-PACKAGES-1973-1974-SERIES-3-4-5-6-9-GREAT-DEAL-/200825796641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2267821

This post would go good in the Re: Are these people nuts thread.
Title: Re: Let the bidding begin...Great deal indeed!
Post by: BumChex on September 29, 2012, 09:15:25 AM
This post would go good in the Re: Are these people nuts thread.
I agree and added it to the nuts thread.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 03, 2012, 09:42:21 AM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 03, 2012, 12:01:20 PM

This guy cracks me up.


That's one wild seller Ė their pricing strategy is like a bucking bronco at the rodeo

They have a set of Brady Bunch cards with the price reduced from $29,999 to $14,700

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-TOPPS-BRADY-BUNCH-GUM-CARD-SET-PSA-7-58-HIP-POP-CULTURE-OFFER-OK-/330384982781?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec7ac2fd

What does this part of the auction description mean, below? If I buy it, only one other person on Earth has a better graded set?

"THIS IS THE #2 HIGHEST 100% COMPLETE SET ON PLANET LISTED UNDER HERE'S THE STORY ON THE ALL TIME PSA SET REG."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 03, 2012, 12:05:08 PM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897

But if you buy it at the BIN price you save $2450! Why not list it at $20,000 one week and then drop the price down to $5,000 the next? Then they can say to the potential buyer, "You're "saving" $15,000!"  What a joke. If the quoted price is in no way - or only very loosely - connected to the actual 'value' (which is very difficult to establish in the first place) of the commodity on offer then where is the savings?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 03, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
But if you buy it at the BIN price you save $2450! Why not list it at $20,000 one week and then drop the price down to $5,000 the next? Then they can say to the potential buyer, "You're "saving" $15,000!"  What a joke. If the quoted price is in no way - or only very loosely - connected to the actual 'value' (which is very difficult to establish in the first place) of the commodity on offer then where is the savings?

If everyone sold like this, just think of all the money you could save by saving your savings! WOW !

You could be the 2nd person on earth to have one of the best sets of these. I guess that excludes other galaxy's.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 03, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
This guy cracks me up. He's had this 8th blue full box up for years with no takers. He keeps increasing the price. First it was
$1999, then $2300, then $2500. Now it's 49% off...of $5000! So it's $2550.

Arguably the price of $2,000 isn't that ridiculous. I just think it's funny to keep raising the asking price in the face of bidder indifference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973TOPPS-WACKY-PACKAGES-SERIES-8-FULL-WAX-PACK-BOX-GAI-/330386163863?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cec8cc897

The value of everything is down.  About 5 years ago I sold a full 8th Blue box for about $2500.  That said, I am tempted to offer him $1500 for it.  I think that would be a fairly decent value price for that full box. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jeffcaff on October 05, 2012, 08:48:15 AM
Here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lost-Wacky-Packages-1981-United-Kingdom-Test-Set-Ads-Packs-Complete-/120995354023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2be295a7

I think that he has sold this one about 1/2 dozen times over the passed few months. No where in the description does it states that these are reproductions.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 05, 2012, 09:10:12 AM
Here's another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lost-Wacky-Packages-1981-United-Kingdom-Test-Set-Ads-Packs-Complete-/120995354023?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2be295a7

I think that he has sold this one about 1/2 dozen times over the passed few months. No where in the description does it states that these are reproductions.



He uses the term "rendered" in the description (quoted below) but "rendered"  is a very broad and general term and does not specifically imply the cards are not original test items  like would be conveyed by "reproduction" or "reanactment" or "fake" or "forgery" or "slimeball". I mean, all cards are rendered in one way or another. At least this description  would trigger a bit of a red-flag for me but could still see how someone unfamiliar with the history of this particular item could be misled.


" This auction is for a RENDERED Set of 1981 Lost Wackys that were going to be made and released in the UK back in 1981,but for some reason it never happened and we collectors were left with a hole in our collection. The set is a rendering of what could have been. The cards in the picture are the exact cards you will receive. Item ships the day payment is made. Cards will be put into toploaders and mailed securely."
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 07, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
The description on this beauty is priceless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-EARLY-1970S-VINTAGE-CHOKE-WAGON-TRADING-CARD-SERIES-4-MINT-/320997166426?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abcec0d5a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 07, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
The description on this beauty is priceless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-EARLY-1970S-VINTAGE-CHOKE-WAGON-TRADING-CARD-SERIES-4-MINT-/320997166426?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abcec0d5a

No mention of the fact it's so far to the left it advocates socialized health care.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on October 07, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
No mention of the fact it's so far to the left it advocates socialized health care.

No bent corners? I guess smashed are not worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on October 09, 2012, 06:50:30 AM
Uninformed or hopeful - a rare punched out 1979 wacky: eBay auction: #120997254125 ?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 09, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
Uninformed or hopeful - a rare punched out 1979 wacky: eBay auction: #120997254125 ?
Definitely uninformed (aka clueless).
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 11, 2012, 06:26:08 AM
The earth will be recovering from the next ice age, and this $10 pack will still be on ebay for $99.99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-IN-PLASTIC-ON-A-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230862795774?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c07eb3fe
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 11, 2012, 12:58:33 PM
The earth will be recovering from the next ice age, and this $10 pack will still be on ebay for $99.99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-UNOPENED-WAX-PACK-SEALED-IN-PLASTIC-ON-A-HARD-PROTECTOR-MINT-RARE-/230862795774?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c07eb3fe

Of course it will. its SEALED IN PLASTIC. With a little luck it will transend time. I bet the gum is still good.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 13, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: jleonard1967 on October 13, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238
I agree a little high, however what would be a fair price?  It is not my Auction but I am interested what everyone thinks.  I don't know the value of higher series whites or tri folds I do know that ludlows are selling for good money
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: rdsjnk on October 13, 2012, 06:57:42 PM
Admittedly, there is some unusual stuff here, but $10K? I think not.

eBay auction: #170924126238

The .69 cents killed it for me   :sad:
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ludlow the red camel on October 13, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
The .69 cents killed for me   :sad:
prolly thought when you see the 69 your mind would be on something else and forget you're getting raped for over 10,000.  wonder what it would have listed for if heaven forbid series 16 was included??
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Kook on October 13, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
I agree a little high, however what would be a fair price?  It is not my Auction but I am interested what everyone thinks.  I don't know the value of higher series whites or tri folds I do know that ludlows are selling for good money

Based on condition, I'd estimate anywhere from $4000 to $7000. Based on the description of condition I would say closer to $7k, but if the cards are all in condition of the samples represented, I'd say closer to the $4k. Most of the value is in the luds, 1st tan set, 3rd & 13th WB singles, & 14th trifold set. This price is full retail. Anyone buying the entire lot would expect at least a 20% to 30% discount from that IMO. To get closer to the full retail, you'd have to sell it off at least by sets.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 19, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Proof-Acetate-Set-228-/140870470786?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc88cc82

Am I missing something? Not sure what is more offensive the price or the description. Acetate? I see a pic of a common card.

I tried to send the seller a message but I am Canadian and the items they are seeling are not available here. Too bad for me if I change my mind and want to bid. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this guy (or gal). "I have looked these up on several sites and at trade shows, card and comic shops. THESE ARE LEGITIMATE PRICES." What a load of cr**.

"These Wacky Packages survived the 1970's like a champion! No bent corners, no fading no writing no stickers removed. All in perfect condition. These are great nostalgia, I was going to make a canvas out of them until I looked them up. I will be making the canvas if they do not sell. I have looked these up on several sites and at trade shows, card and comic shops. THESE ARE LEGITIMATE PRICES. I am willing to work a deal if you would like multiple cards. I have doubles and triples of a lot of these. Please let me know if you have a need for a particular card, I have so many I will only be listing the better valued ones for now and the lesser value ones in a bulk lot later. Thank you for looking and happy bidding, good luck!!!!"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 19, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
Am I missing something?
nope. you spotted a legitimate whack-job! $325 for a VG Old Spit? LOL
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 19, 2012, 07:27:39 PM
Am I missing something?
Nope. This dude is certainly a major a-hole, when it comes to Wackies, anyway. The picture doesn't match the description/title at all and neither matches the pricing. What a super shmuck!
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: moron_chicken on October 20, 2012, 07:00:09 AM
Is anyone familiar with this persons auctions?

http://www.ebay.com/csc/califgirlz/m.html?item=360496204871&ViewItem=&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

They are selling cards advertised as mint, and making a mint doing it.  It is hard to tell from the pictures if these cards are really mint.  I wonder how many find a dissatisfied customer and returned?  If they are honestly mint cards this is a good selling approach.  I wonder how many mint cards I have sold over the years for nothing. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sunsweat on October 20, 2012, 08:01:47 AM
Is anyone familiar with this persons auctions?

http://www.ebay.com/csc/califgirlz/m.html?item=360496204871&ViewItem=&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

They are selling cards advertised as mint, and making a mint doing it.  It is hard to tell from the pictures if these cards are really mint.  I wonder how many find a dissatisfied customer and returned?  If they are honestly mint cards this is a good selling approach.  I wonder how many mint cards I have sold over the years for nothing. 

These auctions look like some shilling is going on.  Click on the bidders in bidding history.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 20, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
I agree (about the shilling). It's the same bidders. Some people will do anything (and by that I mean debase themselves to any level) in order to make money. Best to keep folks like that at a distance. This applies to ebay auctions as well as life in general. :-)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 20, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
I completely disagree that this is shilling.
These cards are selling at only 10-20-25 cents a pop. No one is driving the prices up, no one is bidding on outrageously priced commons. One person has been buying a lot of them, but then again, buying a bunch combines the shipping and saves significant $.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 20, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
But $56 for a Screech tan back? These are all tan back series 10 for $25 - $56? That's more like the 16th series...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 20, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
But $56 for a Screech tan back? These are all tan back series 10 for $25 - $56? That's more like the 16th series...
ok. you got me on that one. these recent auctions have been dirt cheap, but most of those earlier ones look really suspicious.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 20, 2012, 11:45:24 AM
Does anyone know who these people are that are spending $40 to $60 on these Series 13 Tan Backs?  I would like to offer my collection to them for bid, one card at a time.  My cards are mint of course.  :]

Wow!  Some of these postings are amazing.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 20, 2012, 02:27:43 PM
Seriously guys - we all know what is going on here. I reported the auctions - several of them in fact - to ebay. A lot good it will do. I also wrote the seller and accused them of doing what we all know they are doing. No one - and I mean no one - would pay $30-40 for an ungraded 13th series card. Are you kidding me? A PSA-7/8 graded one perhaps but these aren't them.

Take a look at the bidders. It's the same three bidders and in the same exact order (at least on the 13th series ones I came across). And who pays $160 for a 2nd series black ludlow? I have several but I can't imagine getting half that and they are nm.

And one more thing: If these bids are legit - as some of you might want to argue - then why aren't the bidders snatching up any other auctions? Why are they not buying up other lots of cards of similar quality? If they are willing to shell out $50 for a common tan back then why not $300 or more for a set of similar quality?

Or, better yet: If any one of you wants to sell a few tan-back commons, now is your chance. (!) There are at least two 'buyers' bidding on these recent auctions and chances are the one who loses will be wanting to fill the void in their collection or whatever and you could make some money. Of course, some may want to argue that b/c in some cases the bidding war was between two 'buyers' you would not make nearly as much $ given that the one who won the auction would not in all likelihood (or so the arument goes) be looking to bid on these new auctions thereby elimiating the possibility of another bidding war.

But then, why aren't others in on the bidding war? Do these 'buyers' know something about the market for WPs that the hundreds of others in teh hobby do not?

The truth is, there is no bidding war going on here. The market has not changed for WPs in teh last few weeks. It's just shady selling practices, that's all.  

Sorry for rant but this really pisses me off.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Go_Bum on October 20, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
Iíve been watching this seller for a while as well. Iím surprised that the prices are so high with the picture quality of the actual cards being so low. The seller mentions that the stickers were stored in a photo album for years so I checked her feedback to see if there were any complaints about glue on the backs but there were none. Actually one of our forum members has left positive feedback.
 As for shills, one of the high rolling bidders v***s (151) has been all over wacky auctions in the last few months so I donít believe he is a shill.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 20, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
Gumby, I enjoyed the rant.  Thanks! :great:

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 24, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
Check out this auction.  $100 and ONLY $8.35 for shipping a single sticker.  PLUS, he is willing to workl out a deal on shipping of you buy more than one sticker.  Who could resist!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Log-Cave-In-/140870865500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc8ed25c#ht_330wt_913
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: RawGoo on October 24, 2012, 07:41:34 AM
Check out this auction.  $100 and ONLY $8.35 for shipping a single sticker.  PLUS, he is willing to workl out a deal on shipping of you buy more than one sticker.  Who could resist!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Log-Cave-In-/140870865500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cc8ed25c#ht_330wt_913


I suggest he make the canvas.......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 24, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
I suggest he make the canvas.......
I have another suggestion for where he can paste them...and it ain't just anyplace.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 26, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Hey everyone 'priced reduced for quick sale'  :great:
I told Ern we needed to move this to the Are These People Nuts thread..HaHa.
eBay auction: #121005367411
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: DrDeal on October 26, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
Nice $15.00 sketch he's got there.

DrDeal
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 12:02:42 AM
Nice $15.00 sketch he's got there.

DrDeal

HaHa. See Ern always has to protect himself. I think it's funny that he thinks he's always right even though we know his tactics are horrible. It's just funny. He doesn't get the market. He obviously has blinders on. I can laugh at myself if I screw up but Ern can't do that. Not every sketch is a masterpiece, hello Clint and Cardgary. I just hate clueless sellers.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 06:33:26 AM
HaHa. See Ern always has to protect himself. I think it's funny that he thinks he's always right even though we know his tactics are horrible. It's just funny. He doesn't get the market. He obviously has blinders on. I can laugh at myself if I screw up but Ern can't do that. Not every sketch is a masterpiece, hello Clint and Cardgary. I just hate clueless sellers.
When did I say this was a master piece?  Where did I screw up?  I simply put this on ebay with a high BIN so as NOT to sell it on ebay?  Are you really this dense or is this an act?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
When did I say this was a master piece?  Where did I screw up?  I simply put this on ebay with a high BIN so as NOT to sell it on ebay?  Are you really this dense or is this an act?

Ern, I'm just giving you shit. You take things way too serious and aways have to be right. I will lay off.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 27, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
Hey, mom and dad! Us kids get scared when you fight.   :'(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
Ern, I'm just giving you shit. You take things way too serious and aways have to be right. I will lay off.
I didn't have an opinion here so there was no right and wrong in play but I didn enjoy your trying to play this off in some mysterious way.  I merely listed an ebay auction, clearly stated I had no expectations for it to sell as my intent was to use ebay for advertising purposes and you some how turned it into a witch hunt in which I was trying to rip off collectors.  Is there some being "Right" mixed in there somewhere?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Hey, mom and dad! Us kids get scared when you fight.   :'(
LOL!!  Ok, I gotta ask, who is mom?  :]
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
I didn't have an opinion here so there was no right and wrong in play but I didn enjoy your trying to play this off in some mysterious way.  I merely listed an ebay auction, clearly stated I had no expectations for it to sell as my intent was to use ebay for advertising purposes and you some how turned it into a witch hunt in which I was trying to rip off collectors.  Is there some being "Right" mixed in there somewhere?

No, it just so happens that I was discussing clueless sellers with a fellow forum member and then I saw your auction when you should know the hobby. I thought it was funny because the Walton sketches seem to be the new 'Z' and asking $200 for a sketch, regardless if you are looking for offers, is really high. Plus telling people in the sketch thread that you didn't expect that much was great because who would make you a lowball offer on what a seller wants $200 for. If you have a BIN of $200 would you really take - $20 offer? No, even though its worth maybe $25 tops. Now if you had one of Cameras sketches and asking $200 for it is a different story. I wouldn't have said anything. You say all I care about is the sketches but I do know the market on sketches and some stuff still surprises me. I know a lot of the sketch collectors and know what price and type of sketch they consider worth the cash and Walton sketches isn't one of them. It's one you start bidding on at $20 and hope it sells.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 27, 2012, 10:58:20 PM
No, it just so happens that I was discussing clueless sellers with a fellow forum member and then I saw your auction when you should know the hobby. I thought it was funny because the Walton sketches seem to be the new 'Z' and asking $200 for a sketch, regardless if you are looking for offers, is really high. Plus telling people in the sketch thread that you didn't expect that much was great because who would make you a lowball offer on what a seller wants $200 for. If you have a BIN of $200 would you really take - $20 offer? No, even though its worth maybe $25 tops. Now if you had one of Cameras sketches and asking $200 for it is a different story. I wouldn't have said anything. You say all I care about is the sketches but I do know the market on sketches and some stuff still surprises me. I know a lot of the sketch collectors and know what price and type of sketch they consider worth the cash and Walton sketches isn't one of them. It's one you start bidding on at $20 and hope it sells.
I again feel I have the right to call you an idiot.  For the last time, I had zero intention of selling on ebay so why would I start at $20 and hope it sells?  I was purely using ebay as a tool to advertise it being available.  I said in no way was my BIN indictive of any perception of value for the card(AND CONTENTS). I specifically stated this in my original post here yet I am sure you have no recollection of that as you consistantly ignore what people actually post and you just post away whatever whimsicle thought comes to your mind much like a child.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 27, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
For the last time, I had zero intention of selling on ebay so why would I start at $20 and hope it sells?  I was purely using ebay as a tool to advertise it being available. 

Thanks, that's all I needed to read....LOL so you just post on eBay to promote your brand and not sell? HaHa. I'll tell you what. I put auctions on eBay to actually sell them. The market will tell you what it's worth. The final price may not be what I want but I sold it. We obviously differ on selling tactics.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2012, 07:05:14 AM
Thanks, that's all I needed to read....LOL so you just post on eBay to promote your brand and not sell? HaHa. I'll tell you what. I put auctions on eBay to actually sell them. The market will tell you what it's worth. The final price may not be what I want but I sold it. We obviously differ on selling tactics.
"all I needed to read" is what I have said in nearly every single post to you....

"Obviously the auction is rigged so I can get offers and screw ebay out of its fees before someone goes off half cocked on me for my BIN price...."

This is the text from my original post here that resulted in your attacking me for days about the BIN price....see why I feel you have a child's ability to comprehend other's posts or perhaps you still don't bother to read anything and have a cavallier attitude in regards to whether your responses accurately depict the posts you are responding too.....sorry dude, nobody is sitting back saying, "isn't that cute, yet again brad didn't read the content of a post he has decided to respond to"
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM
Guys... can you please move your stuff into a separate thread? Really getting tedious for the rest of us...  :^)


So here's a "color" sketch -- apparently because Mark signed in blue ink:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121006911407&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on October 28, 2012, 12:36:57 PM
Guys... can you please move your stuff into a separate thread? Really getting tedious for the rest of us...  :^)


So here's a "color" sketch -- apparently because Mark signed in blue ink:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121006911407&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I agree with you 100%.  Brad dragged it into this thread and others.  I only mentioned my auction in the sketch spoiler thread since I was providing a scan of a sketch.  I hope our moderator can settle down and do his job and not drag this into more threads.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 29, 2012, 12:17:45 PM
Heh:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876194938&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Classic! I tried to send seller a message asking how he/she knows it's a hostess double wacky, but can't get through (they do not sell to folks North of your border). Would love to hear their logic/reasoning...
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5

Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f

Are there no rules against this on ebay?



Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 29, 2012, 01:03:20 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5
Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f
Are there no rules against this on ebay?


I guess, realistically, how could ebay police multiple auctions selling the same item? They simply would have no way of knowing. I have run into the flip of this issue twice in recent months (one Wacky item and one not), I won an auction, only to be told a day or two later by the seller that they did not have the item. How is this not a HUGE blot against the seller? Perhaps I am being an ass, but in both cases I left negative feedback even though my cost was refunded. I suppose I am a conspirasist and suspect foul play when this happens.  

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 29, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
Nahh, I would be pissed too.
And you're right about e-bay and the policing of infractions like the one I flagged. Then again, they should be doing something with the money they generate from all those fees.   >(
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bigtomi on October 29, 2012, 02:20:05 PM
Classic! I tried to send seller a message asking how he/she knows it's a hostess double wacky, but can't get through (they do not sell to folks North of your border). Would love to hear their logic/reasoning...
I asked. Can't wait for the answer, if I get one......
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: ClubbedCanadian on October 29, 2012, 10:34:18 PM
I asked. Can't wait for the answer, if I get one......

Haha,,now revised,,,must have gotten the messge
too bad he never revised the asking price..yet...$45  :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on October 30, 2012, 05:44:47 AM
Haha,,now revised,,,must have gotten the messge
too bad he never revised the asking price..yet...$45  :^)

So, maybe these lousy looking commons ARE worth $45...  :P
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Porkie on October 30, 2012, 07:23:18 AM
Am I imagining this? Title says "Ludlow"; description says "white back"; photo implies "tan back":

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876463660&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123




Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on October 30, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
Am I imagining this? Title says "Ludlow"; description says "white back"; photo implies "tan back":

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140876463660&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


How can you go wrong? When its delivered, its bound to be one of these three.   :^)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on October 30, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
I was thinking of a clever response, however, nobody can top Sco(o)t's comment.  It still has me laughing.  Good one!

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Dr Popper on October 31, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
Here's another one. The seller has been peddling these OC trifolds since before Obama took office. Now they are being packaged together.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-14-Tri-Fold-Partial-Set-of-4-/200837620133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2dae1a5

Problem is they are still being auctioned off as singles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Wacky-Packages-14th-Series-Rare-TriFold-Back-Sugarmess-Bubble-Gum-/200837625215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec2daf57f

Are there no rules against this on ebay?

The thing I don't get is the scans of the backs don't look like tri-folds.  I don't see the typical tri-fold lines on them.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on October 31, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Whoever paid this much for this sketch is NUTTS!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-LIMITED-POST-CARD-SKETCH-CARD-BROWER-/221146156004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d568be4&nma=true&si=bzSkd%2BstculufvhGzrD5Y053pf8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 31, 2012, 06:07:18 PM
Whoever paid this much for this sketch is NUTTS!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-WACKY-PACKAGES-HALLOWEEN-LIMITED-POST-CARD-SKETCH-CARD-BROWER-/221146156004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d568be4&nma=true&si=bzSkd%2BstculufvhGzrD5Y053pf8%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I have on similar but not as good as this one. I didn't even bother listing it because I didn't think I would get much for it. I probably wouldn't have because you can at least tell what this one is. Mine took me awhile to figure it out. I would rather keep some sketches than to sell cheap on eBay. So far its been a bit tough to see which artist and sketches are going for a higher value. So far the Simkos haven't been doing as well as I would have thought. I've heard from 2 sketch collectors that they don't care for the comic style sketches. I think they're really good. Most of the artists have stepped up their game for this series and its been one of the best PC sketch runs so far.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: BumChex on October 31, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
I'm also surprised the Gambino moons have sold so high. Both have sold for $140+. It's not even a monster, its a moon.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 31, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
I'm also surprised the Gambino moons have sold so high. Both have sold for $140+. It's not even a monster, its a moon.
lol. Exactly. It's the frickin' moon! Respect.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on November 01, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
I have another suggestion for where he can paste them...and it ain't just anyplace.

LOL!
Love your new avitar sketch, it's more personable now (if that's a word)
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Playbug on November 01, 2012, 05:14:45 PM
lol. Exactly. It's the frickin' moon! Respect.

Was it a full moon at least?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 01, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WACKY-PACK-CARD-KNUCKLES-LOOK-/200841726208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec3198900

Is this a restick of Knuckles into a Oh Hairy frame?  If so, why does the knuckles fit so well?  I can't come up with any other black borders that explain this.  Anyone?
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 01, 2012, 07:47:35 PM
This thing just won't die.  Dave found this one back in March
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=84.msg43861#msg43861

Really doesn't fit that well, knuckles is larger than o'hairy, but still smaller than the outer border, and overlaps the die cut area giving it something to stick to.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 01, 2012, 07:59:10 PM
This thing just won't die.  Dave found this one back in March
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=84.msg43861#msg43861

Really doesn't fit that well, knuckles is larger than o'hairy, but still smaller than the outer border, and overlaps the die cut area giving it something to stick to.
Sorry, my bad. 
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 02, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
Sorry, my bad. 
it still makes for a great laugh. "never been pulled off its original backing" 
and the title keyword of "====LOOK====", the first sign of total crap
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: bandaches on November 02, 2012, 06:57:34 AM
it still makes for a great laugh. "never been pulled off its original backing" 
and the title keyword of "====LOOK====", the first sign of total crap
Yeah, this seller seems to enjoy lying just to see the reaction he will get from people.
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: MadMike on November 03, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
I could not help myself.  I did a search to see if he still is selling that Duxie that looked like rats had eaten one of the corners.  Of course it is still available for a mere $7.99.

This is the guy that stated he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay.  He came across as a bit of a kook when I asked about that Duxie sticker.

Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: lucidjc on November 03, 2012, 11:13:22 PM
I could not help myself.  I did a search to see if he still is selling that Duxie that looked like rats had eaten one of the corners.  Of course it is still available for a mere $7.99.

This is the guy that stated he wanted to have the most items for sale on ebay.  He came across as a bit of a kook when I asked about that Duxie sticker.



I know this guy on ebay has over a million items. and 2.5 million feedbacks. I know this guy is not the most, but lets see ol' Floydy boy get close.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Deep-Descent-McMurray-Kevin-F-9780743400633-/380384603008?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item5890b06b80
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 04, 2012, 05:30:35 AM
Sometimes jokes just write themselves...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-Rare-White-Backs-Extremely-Rare-Lot-of-15-/170936611722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc9db38a
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: PG Lips on November 04, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
Sometimes jokes just write themselves...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-13th-Series-Rare-White-Backs-Extremely-Rare-Lot-of-15-/170936611722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cc9db38a

What's he do if he sells these 15 cards before he sells them again as part of an even better deal, eBay auction: #170924126238  :-\
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: gumby8691 on November 04, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
What's he do if he sells these 15 cards before he sells them again as part of an even better deal, eBay auction: #170924126238  :-\

Good question. That's why I'm turning my sights on another auction. According to the seller, this is a 'frameable' piece. Once I figure out where to hang it on my wall, I will start bidding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-WACKY-PACK-CARDS-GROUP-BAD-thats-not-funny-/121013276459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2cf40f2b
Title: Re: Are these people NUTS???
Post by: sco(o)t on November 04, 2012, 02:58:01 PM