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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: slamjim on November 20, 2010, 10:24:01 AM
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I made this a separate thread in case anyone does not want to see any spoilers:
This is a heads up that there will be a special Pre-Sale of OLDS2 starting Wednesday Nov. 24 at 12:01am EASTERN TIME ZONE and lasting through until Friday Nov. 26 at 11:59pm EASTERN TIME ZONE. I know this is a weird time with Thanksgiving and all but this is it. Hopefully this 5 day heads up will help people plan for it.
If you are on my mailing list you will receive an email right before the sale with a link directly to the order page. The order page will show the new flyer which has much more details about the series. I will also post the link to the forum in this thread in case anyone does not get the email.
On Monday I will have new info concerning price, if there are any limits, shipping, what may or may not be free, etc. This is just a heads up post to give people two extra days of warning. Monday will have the key info which will also be sent in an email and posted on the forum. I hope to have the new flyer to post on Monday as well.
The series will be expected to go on sale regularly in mid December at the Topps Online Store and ship the last week of December (as always, subject to change).
The series will have 5000 boxes total. The breakdown of a box is as follows (more details of this breakdown is in the SPOILER thread):
Box
24 packs
33 different stickers
9 puzzle checklist cards
Envelope
1 series 3 mini sticker
3 chase cards (not stickers)
3 5x7 stickers
1 sketch card
Insert poster
Also available will be a binder with series 2 wax wrapper, sketch card poster, series poster and uncut sheets along with the majority of the artwork for the series sold on Ebay through Topps Vault.
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I made this a separate thread in case anyone does not want to see any spoilers:
This is a heads up that there will be a special Pre-Sale of OLDS2 starting Wednesday Nov. 24 at 12:01am and lasting through until Friday Nov. 26 at 11:59pm. I know this is a weird time with Thanksgiving and all but this is it. Hopefully this 5 day heads up will help people plan for it.
If you are on my mailing list you will receive an email right before the sale with a link directly to the order page. The order page will show the new flyer which has much more details about the series. I will also post the link to the forum in this thread in case anyone does not get the email.
On Monday I will have new info concerning price, if there are any limits, shipping, what may or may not be free, etc. This is just a heads up post to give people two extra days of warning. Monday will have the key info which will also be sent in an email and posted on the forum. I hope to have the new flyer to post on Monday as well.
The series will be expected to go on sale regularly in mid December at the Topps Online Store and ship the last week of December (as always, subject to change).
The series will have 5000 boxes total. The breakdown of a box is as follows (more details of this breakdown is in the SPOILER thread):
Box
24 packs
33 different stickers
9 puzzle checklist cards
Envelope
1 series 3 mini sticker
3 chase cards (not stickers)
3 5x7 stickers
Insert poster
1 sketch card
Also available will be a binder with series 2 wax wrapper, sketch card poster, series poster and uncut sheets along with the majority of the artwork for the series sold on Ebay through Topps Vault.
Will each envelope still have a sketch card?
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Will each envelope still have a sketch card?
Yeah, I forgot the sketch card. I just added that into the post. Whoops.
Can you edit the quote of what I posted and add the sketch card in and also change the date (it should be Nov. 26 not 27).
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Done. Thanks for the heads up on the new Old School series.
eman
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Yeah, I forgot the sketch card. I just added that into the post. Whoops.
Can you edit the quote of what I posted and add the sketch card in and also change the date (it should be Nov. 26 not 27).
Dave, you can edit any of your own posts. I think you figured that out already ;)
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Dave, you can edit any of your own posts. I think you figured that out already ;)
but you can't edit a quote of your own post, which is what he was asking eman to do
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but you can't edit a quote of your own post, which is what he was asking eman to do
Oh. I gotcha!
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Pre-sale price is $44.95 which includes free shipping for any amount of boxes you order (last time it was 3 or more boxes to get the free shipping).
Every 5 boxes gets a free OLDS2 binder w/ wax wrapper (so if you got 10 you get a second binder and so on).
Limited amount of pre-sale boxes but I don't know the total (probably around the same amount as last time).
Mister Faulty promo card will be in every order and with higher box orders they will be throwing in a number of the promos and flyers and stuff like that.
I believe they will also have the Poster & Sketch Poster "coupons" like last time.
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Pre-sale price is $44.95 which includes free shipping for any amount of boxes you order (last time it was 3 or more boxes to get the free shipping).
Every 5 boxes gets a free OLDS2 binder w/ wax wrapper
Limited amount of pre-sale boxes but I don't know the total (probably around the same amount as last time).
Mister Faulty promo card will be in every order and with higher box orders they will be throwing in a number of the promos and flyers and stuff like that.
I believe they will also have the Poster & Sketch Poster "coupons" like last time.
So it looks like the price increased by $7 per box from the OLDS1 price.
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So it looks like the price increased by $7 per box from the OLDS1 price.
I believe they were $48 a box.
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I believe they were $48 a box.
The pre-order price last time was not $48. I am pretty certain Loren is correct - they were under $40 last time.
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The pre-order price last time was not $48. I am pretty certain Loren is correct - they were under $40 last time.
He didn't say pre-order. I believe we got $10 off on OLDS pre-orders. This is at least a savings plus the binder and such. The regular price for the boxes was $48.
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So it looks like the price increased by $7 per box from the OLDS1 price.
Was it $37.95 or $39.95 last time?
People who bought one or two boxes last time did not get the free shipping. 5 is obviously the deal as you get the binder which is a $20 or so value plus the free shipping. I was hoping for $42.95 but the series cost more this time around getting the new artists involved with the sketch cards and better printing, wrappers, paper stock, etc and, well, they took a big beating on the pre-sale last time especially with the extra freebies, the poster mailing problems, etc. The added costs are pretty easy to make up by just selling off some dupe chase cards or a sketch. The boxes have always been worth more than the sell price. Sealed OLDS1 boxes still sell for $75+ on Ebay and any sketch card is potentially a monster sale. It's still an awesome deal for the price with what is included in this set.
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OLDS pre-sale was $37.95 per box if my memory is correct
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He didn't say pre-order. I believe we got $10 off on OLDS pre-orders. This is at least a savings plus the binder and such. The regular price for the boxes was $48.
I dug out my OLDS1 pre-sale e-mail. Pre-Sale price last time was $37.95 with free shipping. Regular price was $39.95 + shipping.
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I dug out my OLDS1 pre-sale e-mail. Pre-Sale price last time was $37.95 with free shipping. Regular price was $39.95 + shipping.
Reg price was $49.95 I believe
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Reg price was $49.95 I believe
Here is the text from the OLDS1 pre-sale e-mail. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining. I just wasn't expecting to be dropping nearly $225 for five boxes this time.
Hello Wacky Packages fans!
You are receiving this email which includes a special link and code to place pre-orders for the 2009 All- New Topps Wacky Packages Old School series boxes. With this special offer you can get WPOS boxes at the special price of $37.95 (regular sale price will be $39.95+ postage) and with a special FREE shipping discount for 3 or more boxes only during the limited time listed below.
Here's the link to the Old School pre-order page:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-432/WP-PRE821/Detail
(Direct link only, not listed anywhere on the Topps online store or on the Internet)
The Free UPS Ground shipping code is: WPOS821
Remember you MUST enter the code WPOS821 to get your free shipping!
It's valid for orders of 3 or more boxes. Free shipping is valid ONLY for orders within the USA.
**With purchase of 3 boxes you will also receive 3 coupons (one coupon per box) which you will be able to mail in with postage and receive a FREE Wacky Packages Old School full-size poster!**
The code goes live tonight at midnight (Eastern time) and ends Monday - 12:00 PM (Eastern time).
The series is limited to only 3650 boxes so don't delay and miss taking advantage of this special offer!
Thank you,
The Topps Online Store
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Was it $37.95 or $39.95 last time?
People who bought one or two boxes last time did not get the free shipping. 5 is obviously the deal as you get the binder which is a $20 or so value plus the free shipping. I was hoping for $42.95 but the series cost more this time around getting the new artists involved with the sketch cards and better printing, wrappers, paper stock, etc and, well, they took a big beating on the pre-sale last time especially with the extra freebies, the poster mailing problems, etc. The added costs are pretty easy to make up by just selling off some dupe chase cards or a sketch. The boxes have always been worth more than the sell price. Sealed OLDS1 boxes still sell for $75+ on Ebay and any sketch card is potentially a monster sale. It's still an awesome deal for the price with what is included in this set.
It's a minor increase and I still think it represents a very good value with the extras and free shipping.
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The pre-sale price was $37.95 and the actual sale price was $47.95. Just checked it out.
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Here is the text from the OLDS1 pre-sale e-mail. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining. I just wasn't expecting to be dropping nearly $225 for five boxes this time.
It appears to be a difference of about $30 based on (your specific) 5 boxes, shipping and the binder compared to last time.
That $39.95 price was wrong. I remember that was what was the thinking at the time and it ended up selling for $47.95 at the online store.
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Here is the text from the OLDS1 pre-sale e-mail. Don't get me wrong, I'm not really complaining. I just wasn't expecting to be dropping nearly $225 for five boxes this time.
Depending on the sketches you pull you might be able to sell one sketch to recoup you $200 pre-order. That is how you collect in the sketch era.
I will probably drop $2k on the pre-order and when the dust settles I probably won't actually spend a dime and still have a killer collection.
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Depending on the sketches you pull you might be able to sell one sketch to recoup you $200 pre-order. That is how you collect in the sketch era.
I will probably drop $2k on the pre-order and when the dust settles I probably won't actually spend a dime and still have a killer collection.
Also, for the $30 more you could sell some of the duplicate regular chase cards, checklists, stickers or whatever to recoup that cost.
The sketches really do create a whole new way of thinking. If you look at it as Jay doing around 3/5ths of the cards then those will probably be running around $15-50 each depending on the image with obviously some getting more than that if they are more detailed or have any unique elements. The other boxes will have 10 artists dividing up the rest so those will (if it goes by current sketch history) probably be worth the price of the box at least. None of this includes all the other stuff you get which is considerable. I don't see any other card set offering more things in one series. Topps wants us to cut back on the goodies but we have been able to fight them off.
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Also, for the $30 more you could sell some of the duplicate regular chase cards, checklists, stickers or whatever to recoup that cost.
The sketches really do create a whole new way of thinking. If you look at it as Jay doing around 3/5ths of the cards then those will probably be running around $15-50 each depending on the image with obviously some getting more than that if they are more detailed or have any unique elements. The other boxes will have 10 artists dividing up the rest so those will (if it goes by current sketch history) probably be worth the price of the box at least. None of this includes all the other stuff you get which is considerable. I don't see any other card set offering more things in one series. Topps wants us to cut back on the goodies but we have been able to fight them off.
I think the non Lynch sketches may pull $400 each depending on the sketch. If jay did anything crazy the price will be about the same. Colors will sell in the $1k range. What data do i have to support this? OLDS!
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I will probably drop $2k on the pre-order and when the dust settles I probably won't actually spend a dime and still have a killer collection.
I wish you wouldn't say shit like that. Although I’ve never purchased a box of packs, I finally made the decision this go-around to buy 2 boxes and now I'm ready to spend bigger
And the mini teaser preview to the next series is sweet, yeah :0012398:
1 series 3 mini sticker
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I think the non Lynch sketches may pull $400 each depending on the sketch. If jay did anything crazy the price will be about the same. Colors will sell in the $1k range. What data do i have to support this? OLDS!
I think you are high on that $400.00 estimate for non-Lynch sketches. The average quantity for the remaining 10 artists is 200 each, and with that average I can't see them selling for anywhere near $400.00. If one of the artists did 10-20 that's different, but 200+ I think it's too high. If you are basing the quantities on the quantity per title instead of total # of sketches, I just can't see anyone going for all of the titles per artist. I'm not sure that's a realistic goal. I think the majority will be trying to get one per artist, so the total # of sketches they did will be the biggest influence on price.
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I think you are high on that $400.00 estimate for non-Lynch sketches. The average quantity for the remaining 10 artists is 200 each, and with that average I can't see them selling for anywhere near $400.00. If one of the artists did 10-20 that's different, but 200+ I think it's too high. If you are basing the quantities on the quantity per title instead of total # of sketches, I just can't see anyone going for all of the titles per artist. I'm not sure that's a realistic goal. I think the majority will be trying to get one per artist, so the total # of sketches they did will be the biggest influence on price.
It all depends on what the others did with their 200sketches. There could be a lot of variety, if there is the prices could go higher. Look at the Lynch sketch that just sold for $610 on eBay.
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It all depends on what the others did with their 200sketches. There could be a lot of variety, if there is the prices could go higher. Look at the Lynch sketch that just sold for $610 on eBay.
We'll see I guess. Is your preference that they sell high or low, or you honestly don't care?
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We'll see I guess. Is your preference that they sell high or low, or you honestly don't care?
I always like to see them high as a sell/collector and I like to see them lower as a buyer. It really doesn't matter what the market bears because if you want to move a piece to buy another one the price may be close to the same so it's a trade regardless.
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Has there been a link posted yet as to where the pre-sale orders can be placed?
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Has there been a link posted yet as to where the pre-sale orders can be placed?
Nothing yet. Stay Tuned!
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Nothing yet. Stay Tuned!
Can't wait -I am buying 1000 boxes...'Cardgary' eat your heart out!!!!
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? where is the link???
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? where is the link???
The link is live so I can't post it until midnight. Bear with me as I have to post it to two threads, send a mass email and then individually send out a number of emails to people that I typically get a bounce back email from people that can't handle a mass email.
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Got it, Thanks!
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Pre-sale price is $44.95 which includes free shipping for any amount of boxes you order (last time it was 3 or more boxes to get the free shipping).
Every 5 boxes gets a free OLDS2 binder w/ wax wrapper (so if you got 10 you get a second binder and so on).
Limited amount of pre-sale boxes but I don't know the total (probably around the same amount as last time).
Mister Faulty promo card will be in every order and with higher box orders they will be throwing in a number of the promos and flyers and stuff like that.
I believe they will also have the Poster & Sketch Poster "coupons" like last time.
What will the regular price be for these?
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What will the regular price be for these?
I think $49.95 (if you're talking about the boxes, not the posters). Not sure about the posters.
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Here is the link:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-707/Detail
**Note if you are from anywhere else than the USA contact Topps by phone and make your order as I don't know how this works with foreign orders.**
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I am not getting free shipping on these?
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Thanks. I just ordered 5 boxes.
eman
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Same here. They are charging for shipping.
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I just ordered my five.
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Same here. They are charging for shipping.
Same here. are they charging for less than 5? Anyone who ordered 5 can you confirm?
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Same here. It said to use WACKY2 promo code for free shipping but for the life of me there was no where to do it.
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I am trying to order 3, they are charging me. Have not completed it yet.
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I got free shipping. Use code WACKY2
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Same here. They are charging for shipping.
Did you enter the promo of Wacky2? It seems like I had a problem with this with OLDS 1 when I tried paying by PayPal. I had to checkout using a credit card through Topps and use the wacky2 promo code this time but got free shipping when I did that.
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It looks like if you pay with paypal they don't give you an option to put in the free shipping code. I had to put it on credit card so I could enter the code.
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I got free shipping. You need to use the WACKY2 promo card listed on the pre-order page.
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I got free shipping. You need to use the WACKY2 promo card listed on the pre-order page.
It has to be typed in lower case for it to work. I just ordered 5 boxes and got free shipping. I'm sleepy.
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I am trying to use paypal, that could be it. That sux though, I don't want these on a card :'(
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I just ordered 6 boxes and checked out with Paypal and I never got the option to use the code : (
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it worked on my card, not paypal. Now to go pay $135 off of my card. ;D
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Just bought 5 boxes and paid with my CC...the promo code WACKY2 worked with all capital letters.
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Thanks for posting the promo code. For some reason I missed that. Just ordered 5 boxes with my credit card and got the free shipping.
Same here. It said to use WACKY2 promo code for free shipping but for the life of me there was no where to do it.
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They are down to 700 pre-orders already. Good luck. I have about 75 boxes coming in now. Should be fun. Although I did get free shipping on 5 orders of 10 boxes. I also had to pay almost $300 for shipping to get 12 boxes overnighted and another 15 boxes 2nd day air. Although the free shipping and the discount helps with the cost. I can't sit her for 5 days waiting for my boxes while you easterners open all the goods :great:
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it worked on my card, not paypal. Now to go pay $135 off of my card. ;D
I realized the code would not work with paypal so I used my paypal debit mastercard which did the trick and hit my paypal account just the same.
Andrew
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I realized the code would not work with paypal so I used my paypal debit mastercard which did the trick and hit my paypal account just the same.
Andrew
Man, I wish Topps would tell me about all these little intricate payment things so I can just put these details in the email and the posts to avoid any hassles. I'm sure I'm going to get a number of emails now about free shipping issues.
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Don't sweat it, hopefully this thread helped spill that out. I just took the money out of paypal, sent it to my bank, and paid the credit card in 5 minutes.
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They are down to 700 pre-orders already. Good luck. I have about 75 boxes coming in now. Should be fun. Although I did get free shipping on 5 orders of 10 boxes. I also had to pay almost $300 for shipping to get 12 boxes overnighted and another 15 boxes 2nd day air. Although the free shipping and the discount helps with the cost. I can't sit her for 5 days waiting for my boxes while you easterners open all the goods :great:
75 boxes? Good lord! What did you do, tap your kids college funds?
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They are down to 700 pre-orders already. Good luck. I have about 75 boxes coming in now. Should be fun. Although I did get free shipping on 5 orders of 10 boxes. I also had to pay almost $300 for shipping to get 12 boxes overnighted and another 15 boxes 2nd day air. Although the free shipping and the discount helps with the cost. I can't sit her for 5 days waiting for my boxes while you easterners open all the goods :great:
75 boxes? Holy Smokes!
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Don't sweat it, hopefully this thread helped spill that out. I just took the money out of paypal, sent it to my bank, and paid the credit card in 5 minutes.
There are another 150-200 (roughly) people I sent the link to by email as well so who knows if they have any questions.
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They are down to 700 pre-orders already. Good luck. I have about 75 boxes coming in now. Should be fun. Although I did get free shipping on 5 orders of 10 boxes. I also had to pay almost $300 for shipping to get 12 boxes overnighted and another 15 boxes 2nd day air. Although the free shipping and the discount helps with the cost. I can't sit her for 5 days waiting for my boxes while you easterners open all the goods :great:
OK, so will you adopt any of us Uncle Brad? :D
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looks like about half gone in a half hour.
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I realized the code would not work with paypal so I used my paypal debit mastercard which did the trick and hit my paypal account just the same.
Andrew
Yeah, same here. When I realized Paypal was not going to give an opportunity to use the Promo code, I backed out and used my Discover card. I ordered 5 boxes... extravagant by some measures... humble by others (75 boxes, really?).
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There are another 150-200 (roughly) people I sent the link to by email as well so who knows if they have any questions.
sorry for your grief then. :'(
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They have always been good about refunding the shipping. This happened before.
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I'm up in Canada so I hope I can call in them in the morning directly to figure out shipping before they're all gone! Getting WP stuff up here is always a challenge! In fact - ironically, I only just managed to get my retail WP ANS7 boxes just today! ;D
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75 boxes? Good lord! What did you do, tap your kids college funds?
Actually it's now over 100. I bought about 275 OLDS boxes and in the end I didn't spend a dime and I think I have a great collection. I have all B&W except for the cow and I also have one B&W from the poster. I sure hope buying them all now hasn't hurt me as it did other collectors with OLDS and not getting anything special with 100 box purchase. I purchased all small lots of 10-15 boxes to hopefully get a random mix. I really don't know if that will happen and I could be totally killed on this series.
If you are a collector that is content with not having everything and sell to feed your passion than my strategy will work.
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Man, I wish Topps would tell me about all these little intricate payment things so I can just put these details in the email and the posts to avoid any hassles. I'm sure I'm going to get a number of emails now about free shipping issues.
Don't beat yourself up over this. I'm sure they may not be aware of it either since it's probably tough to check every payment option for code purchasing. I'm surprise that using this link they didn't have free standard shipping as the basic option for all payment methods. Seems kinda strange that a company couldn't assume that a private sale would have this option built in?
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Holy Crap! I just tried to order 360 and it said they didn't have that many. I'm sure glad we all go in on the pre-orders because this will be sold out early! I know they must have had about 1000 to pre-order. This is fantastic for Dave and Topps!
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Less than 300 now. This will be gone today! This is amazing. 700+ boxes sold out in less than 2 hours!
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They are down to 700 pre-orders already. Good luck. I have about 75 boxes coming in now. Should be fun. Although I did get free shipping on 5 orders of 10 boxes. I also had to pay almost $300 for shipping to get 12 boxes overnighted and another 15 boxes 2nd day air. Although the free shipping and the discount helps with the cost. I can't sit her for 5 days waiting for my boxes while you easterners open all the goods :great:
At least you don't have to pay sales tax on your Topps orders >(
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At least you don't have to pay sales tax on your Topps orders >(
How much do you have to pay?
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I just ordered my 2 boxes a bit ago and didn't see the place to enter the promo code. I did put the code (in caps) into a couple of places to see if it would work but it didn't.
I reread this thread but didn't see anyone who said what the text box is called or how it is labeled. Is the field called called "promo code"?
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How much do you have to pay?
Local tax is 8.625 percent, but Topps' amount seems to work out to 7.4 percent, don't know why. What's truly horrible is getting charged sales tax on the shipping, too. It adds up fast!! Hmm, maybe I should pre-order a few more boxes......
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wow! SOLD OUT?? already... I tried to order another box but nothing from the link??
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No, plenty left, it worked for me to put 25 in the cart
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Is the field called called "promo code"?
YES!
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Just took 100 too
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wow! SOLD OUT?? already... I tried to order another box but nothing from the link??
Some may have some in their queue. You should be fine.
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If this sells out before the Friday night end I'll see if they can put some additional ones up ASAP as I want to make sure everyone that got the email or is on the forum can get some if they like.
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I have about 75 boxes coming in now.
Brad, my e-mail notification said "Hello Wacky Packages Fan" but yours must have said "Hello Wacky Packages Fanatic"!
I do appreciate going overboard sometimes ~ ~ ~ :glasses11: ~ ~ ~ and this is cheaper and healthier than a smack habit ;-)
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Brad, my e-mail notification said "Hello Wacky Packages Fan" but yours must have said "Hello Wacky Packages Fanatic"!
I do appreciate going overboard sometimes ~ ~ ~ :glasses11: ~ ~ ~ and this is cheaper and healthier than a smack habit ;-)
Who went overboard? Also, the email didn't say ''hello wacky fans'. It said Subject. Are you smoking some of that, 'NOW', illegal wacky tobacky?
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If this sells out before the Friday night end I'll see if they can put some additional ones up ASAP as I want to make sure everyone that got the email or is on the forum can get some if they like.
Thanks for arranging this pre-order for us Dave! I'm really looking forward to this set.
How many boxes were allotted for the pre-orders? At 3:17 AM (EST) I got an email notification from the Toppsonline store mailing list with the link, so the remaining boxes may not last much longer.
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Actually it's now over 100. I bought about 275 OLDS boxes and in the end I didn't spend a dime and I think I have a great collection. I have all B&W except for the cow and I also have one B&W from the poster. I sure hope buying them all now hasn't hurt me as it did other collectors with OLDS and not getting anything special with 100 box purchase. I purchased all small lots of 10-15 boxes to hopefully get a random mix. I really don't know if that will happen and I could be totally killed on this series.
If you are a collector that is content with not having everything and sell to feed your passion than my strategy will work.
I figured you plan on selling the bulk. But keep in mind there's going to be a lot more competition this time around. I bought a paltry 20 boxes but I'm not as confident about breaking even this time. Through ebay this series is going to be the cheapest most attainable set since FB2. It's releasing a tidal wave of 5000 new sketch cards to the market. If you have the strength maybe you could set aside about 20% to remain sealed as insurance. Sealed Old School boxes (or OLDS for the tragically hip) will be gold when the series sells out. OLDSGOLD? Goldschool? Never mind.
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I just ordered my two boxes. Man, I can't believe these pre-order numbers are going fast.
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What time did you order Martin? I just checked and the page says "OUT OF STOCK".
Oh well, at least that made up my mind for me!
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WTH..just woke up and tried the link...SOLD OUT.
This stinks.
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it's says SOLD OUT,,this can't be right
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What time did you order Martin? I just checked and the page says "OUT OF STOCK".
Oh well, at least that made up my mind for me!
Loren, I placed my order at 5:56am. I must have gotten two of the last ones in the pre-order stock. So bummed that they were sold out when you tried a half hour later.
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it's says SOLD OUT,,this can't be right
and the other page say's OUT OF STOCK??,,,it's only been 2 hours since i got the Topps e-mail
how many were for pre-sale?
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Actually not surprising if you go back and read through this thread.
Maybe they will be adding more boxes to the pre-sale as Dave suggested might happen.
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Loren, I agree. Seeing how many forum folks here ordered (I read the thread after placing my order), I am not surprised things went quickly. Remember too there are many folks on Dave's email list. Any number of folks ordering upwards of 100 to 200 boxes apiece would very easily suck up the supply of pre-order boxes.
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Loren, I agree. Seeing how many forum folks here ordered (I read the thread after placing my order), I am not surprised things went quickly. Remember too there are many folks on Dave's email list. Any number of folks ordering upwards of 100 to 200 boxes apiece would very easily suck up the supply of pre-order boxes.
The shear fact that there is no limit on a pre-sale is staggering!
Lets get one thing straight here,,,it's no longer about trading cards,it's about sketches and money,i said this last year and this proves it again.
I like the sketches,don't get me wrong but it's really a shame it's come to this
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WTH..just woke up and tried the link...SOLD OUT.
This stinks.
Yep, same here.
Let's hope Dave comes through with some more boxes for preorder. Unfortunately, since I've got to be at work, I may miss out on those as well. I was going to buy 5, but if I can't get the preorder deal, I'll probably drop that to 3.
Oh well, at least we can (hopefully) still buy some from the main release!
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I woke up at 6am and saw the same message, "SOLD OUT". Living on the East Coast, 12am was just too late. If I truly thought that they would sell out, I would have stayed up. Does Topps plan to release additional boxes via presale or do we have to wait for the general order via Topps website in December?
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They won't add more boxes however anyone from my list THAT DID NOT GET ANY can send me an email and we will hook you up around Tuesday. Will LYK when I have details.
Email me at:
salandrei@aol.com
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Thanks, Dave!
Don't forget to get some sleep, though.
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Hi Dave,
Even though I wasn't on the "bounced" e-mail list you posted a few
days back, for some reason I didn't receive the pre-order link that many
of the others did. :'(
I did try the url link posted on the forum here just now, looks like the pre-sale
is out of stock. If you add more stock up, can you add me to the list?
Thanks,
Paul
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They won't add more boxes however anyone from my list THAT DID NOT GET ANY can send me an email and we will hook you up around Tuesday. Will LYK when I have details.
Email me at:
salandrei@aol.com
Thanks, man. Email sent.
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They won't add more boxes however anyone from my list THAT DID NOT GET ANY can send me an email and we will hook you up around Tuesday. Will LYK when I have details.
Email me at:
salandrei@aol.com
thanks Dave,
PM sent
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Local tax is 8.625 percent, but Topps' amount seems to work out to 7.4 percent, don't know why. What's truly horrible is getting charged sales tax on the shipping, too. It adds up fast!! Hmm, maybe I should pre-order a few more boxes......
Pat, you should have had me order your boxes and I could have hooked up with you on LI, especially if you are getting a bunch where the tax will add up! That stinks.
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Pat, you should have had me order your boxes and I could have hooked up with you on LI, especially if you are getting a bunch where the tax will add up! That stinks.
Thanks for the offer - I might just take you up on that next time. And, it would give us a good reason to get together!
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Thanks for the offer - I might just take you up on that next time. And, it would give us a good reason to get together!
Definitely, it would be fun to crack boxes with a fellow collector! I don't think I've done that before.
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Definitely, it would be fun to crack boxes with a fellow collector! I don't think I've done that before.
;D I know... I have a dirty mind.
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Ordered 10 @ 12:05 AM woke up @ 6:30 AM and they were sold out. I did pay shipping because I used Pay Pal
I hope they refund it :^)
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I ordered quite a few and can help out collectors. I'm not sure how I can help out though because I would have to pay for shipping to you. The only advantage you would have is I would send you the extra goodies such as the binder and such with an order of 5. I would do this at cost on about 30-40 boxes. Just PM me if you have any idea how to swing this. Also keep in mind it will take Topps about 5 days to get the boxes to me and then it would take about the same amount of time to get them to you, depending on where you live. I'm in Colorado so you can gauge it from there.
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The shear fact that there is no limit on a pre-sale is staggering!
Lets get one thing straight here,,,it's no longer about trading cards,it's about sketches and money,i said this last year and this proves it again.
I like the sketches,don't get me wrong but it's really a shame it's come to this
It's great for Topps and Dave, profit wise, at least for the moment. But it seems to be an unhealthy direction for the series. It seems this series is going to get even less exposure than the first one because of the sketch cards.
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It's great for Topps and Dave, profit wise, at least for the moment. But it seems to be an unhealthy direction for the series. It seems this series is going to get even less exposure than the first one because of the sketch cards.
I think the cold hard reality is that the sketch cards sell boxes, plain and simple. Good or bad, take the sketch cards out and would someone like Brad order 75 boxes? Not a chance. If I'm not mistaken you only need a few boxes to satisfy collecting all of the other items, so take the sketch cards out and the quantity of boxes would go down dramatically in my opinion.
That means nothing negative about the card set itself, but there would be no reason to order heavy quantities of boxes.
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If the sketch cards were removed we would probably just have to make the 5x7 chase cards and the other chase cards more random and would have more of them. I don't think the sketch cards are going anywhere. Maybe they should be every other box or 1 in 3. I don't know. Something to ponder for down the road.
The sell out that quick was a surprise. I haven't heard the full numbers yet but I was told 75% of them were 5 box orders
so Brad is still the minority. Most of the people I've had contact me who've missed out only need 1-5 boxes. I'm definitely curious to see how many people bought large quantities.
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I didn't get them in time but I'm always happy to see Wacky Packages sell so well. :great: :great:
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It's great for Topps and Dave, profit wise, at least for the moment. But it seems to be an unhealthy direction for the series. It seems this series is going to get even less exposure than the first one because of the sketch cards.
I share your concern, but I'm not convinced just yet. The sketch cards have taken the main stage for a lot of folks, but I think myself, and a lot of other people, are more excited to crack the packs and see the stickers.
I think you made a great point earlier about the possible shine coming off the sketch-card craze, with 5,000 new sketch cards being released with this series. Maybe not, but I think there could be shift away from what we've been seeing, as far as the secondary prices these will command.
Of course, if the full run of boxes sells out in record time when the normal sale period starts, it might be time to take another look at things. But, if the remaining 4,000 boxes last as long as series one boxes did or longer (was that a couple of months?), I don't think there should be cause for concern. My prediction is that these will last as long as series one did. Yeah, there will be the people investing a lot, with the strategy of parting out what they open, but I suspect the majority of people will be end-level collectors.
The cool thing is, even if people lose interest in sketch cards entirely, and Topps remains happy with keeping this product in their shop for a up to a year - the series remains in good shape, too. At the price we're paying, even without turning profits for sketches - these are a good value.
But again, IF those 4,000 remaining boxes sell out in a week or less... that would be surprising, and maybe not definitive, but certainly indicative of the unhealthy direction you're talking about.
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I think you are high on that $400.00 estimate for non-Lynch sketches. The average quantity for the remaining 10 artists is 200 each, and with that average I can't see them selling for anywhere near $400.00. If one of the artists did 10-20 that's different, but 200+ I think it's too high. If you are basing the quantities on the quantity per title instead of total # of sketches, I just can't see anyone going for all of the titles per artist. I'm not sure that's a realistic goal. I think the majority will be trying to get one per artist, so the total # of sketches they did will be the biggest influence on price.
Actually the value of non Lynch sketches (other than those that are drastically different) will go for in the $50-$60 range, at least until the series sells out. Why pay more than a $100 for a card when you have a 40% chance of getting a non Lynch card in every box? Of course the value will depend greatly on how many people are collecting the entire run of sketch cards (every character from every artist). This should be right around 120 cards. 20 Lynch characters plus (2000 / 20 = 100) equals 120. Of course if Dave Gross does a few of different characters instead of 20 of each the 120 number rises, and the value of the characters he did would rise dramatically since there would be less than 20 of each of his. Dave can you shed light on this?
So anyway, as the people who are collecting one of every character from every artist get near the end of collecting the entire set, then certain sketch cards might go up to $200 or more, even if the run isnt sold out. $400 isn't going to happen to any of the non unique pieces until at least there is a sell out and probably not ever.
I only purchased 10 boxes. If by chance sketch card prices go through the roof I can always buy more later, and with not that much more of an expense. I hear dealer types complained about losing money with ANS7. I have a feeling we're going to hear similar "burn" stories here. If Brad's run of good luck pulling colored sketches comes to an end he'll be on that list (although he's not a dealer he buys these as if he were). Brad enjoyed a ratio of pulling twice as many colored sketches (or more) on average then he should have (given the odds). What happens if he all of a sudden is only pulling 50% of what the odds state, and what if Leslie loses interest in buying? Either way could spell big losses, and I hope not because I like Brad, he has really helped me out in the past. All that said, I hope the guys that gouged Wacky collectors by buying up dozens of Halloween postcard sets take huge huge losses here.
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I share your concern, but I'm not convinced just yet. The sketch cards have taken the main stage for a lot of folks, but I think myself, and a lot of other people, are more excited to crack the packs and see the stickers.
I think you made a great point earlier about the possible shine coming off the sketch-card craze, with 5,000 new sketch cards being released with this series. Maybe not, but I think there could be shift away from what we've been seeing, as far as the secondary prices these will command.
Of course, if the full run of boxes sells out in record time when the normal sale period starts, it might be time to take another look at things. But, if the remaining 4,000 boxes last as long as series one boxes did or longer (was that a couple of months?), I don't think there should be cause for concern. My prediction is that these will last as long as series one did. Yeah, there will be the people investing a lot, with the strategy of parting out what they open, but I suspect the majority of people will be end-level collectors.
The cool thing is, even if people lose interest in sketch cards entirely, and Topps remains happy with keeping this product in their shop for a up to a year - the series remains in good shape, too. At the price we're paying, even without turning profits for sketches - these are a good value.
But again, IF those 4,000 remaining boxes sell out in a week or less... that would be surprising, and maybe not definitive, but certainly indicative of the unhealthy direction you're talking about.
The sketch cards could use a nice deflating price-wise. I think they will actually be stronger for it. The sketch cards are fun and look great and I'd expect more people would be into collecting them if the price was around $10-15 or so each. Once that happens there may actually be more sketch collectors. Right now it's just too pricey for most people to get more than what they got in their box.
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Actually the value of non Lynch sketches (other than those that are drastically different) will go for in the $50-$60 range, at least until the series sells out. Why pay more than a $100 for a card when you have a 40% chance of getting a non Lynch card in every box? Of course the value will depend greatly on how many people are collecting the entire run of sketch cards (every character from every artist). This should be right around 120 cards. 20 Lynch characters plus (2000 / 20 = 100) equals 120. Of course if Dave Gross does a few of different characters instead of 20 of each the 120 number rises, and the value of the characters he did would rise dramatically since there would be less than 20 of each of his. Dave can you shed light on this?
So anyway, as the people who are collecting one of every character from every artist get near the end of collecting the entire set, then certain sketch cards might go up to $200 or more, even if the run isnt sold out. $400 isn't going to happen to any of the non unique pieces until at least there is a sell out and probably not ever.
I only purchased 10 boxes. If by chance sketch card prices go through the roof I can always buy more later, and with not that much more of an expense. I hear dealer types complained about losing money with ANS7. I have a feeling we're going to hear similar "burn" stories here. If Brad's run of good luck pulling colored sketches comes to an end he'll be on that list (although he's not a dealer he buys these as if he were). Brad enjoyed a ratio of pulling twice as many colored sketches (or more) on average then he should have (given the odds). What happens if he all of a sudden is only pulling 50% of what the odds state, and what if Leslie loses interest in buying? Either way could spell big losses, and I hope not because I like Brad, he has really helped me out in the past. All that said, I hope the guys that gouged Wacky collectors by buying up dozens of Halloween postcard sets take huge huge losses here.
The "burn stories" may not happen. From what I just heard only 2 people bought in numbers like Brad has said he did. The majority was 5 or so boxes. That means a HUGE number of different people bought them this time. Last time the pre-sale was dominated by some big purchases. This could mean the remaining boxes might last much longer on the shelf as so many different people already got what they needed or people are waiting to see what happens with the sketches before buying much more. It will be interesting.
BTW, no one, including me could deviate from doing the 20 characters.All cards will feature these 20 (15 OS and 5 OLDS2). This is the model going forward.
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Anyone that got charged shipping you can contact: Storehelp@topps.com
Provide the invoice number and your name and they will get you your shipping refund.
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The "burn stories" may not happen. From what I just heard only 2 people bought in numbers like Brad has said he did. The majority was 5 or so boxes. That means a HUGE number of different people bought them this time. Last time the pre-sale was dominated by some big purchases. This could mean the remaining boxes might last much longer on the shelf as so many different people already got what they needed or people are waiting to see what happens with the sketches before buying much more. It will be interesting.
BTW, no one, including me could deviate from doing the 20 characters.All cards will feature these 20 (15 OS and 5 OLDS2). This is the model going forward.
Thanks! So for example, if you did the demented lightbulb, did you do 20 of that character, or did you deviate from the others in that you may have done less than 20 of any given character?
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Thanks! So for example, if you did the demented lightbulb, did you do 20 of that character, or did you deviate from the others in that you may have done less than 20 of any given character?
Everyone worked in groups of 20. If someone did 200 sketch cards they had to do 10 of each character. This way there can be 10 possible sets of 20 for that artist. Any one character not done this way would have killed this. I think this opens things up to more people who want to collect sketch cards to get in on it with a better chance of collecting how they want.
I just got reprimanded concerning talking about the sketch card numbers too much so I cannot post total numbers per artist, color numbers, etc. Only that there are 5000 sketch cards (which is obvious with one per box) and that 20 characters were used in the set.
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Anyone that got charged shipping you can contact: Storehelp@topps.com
Provide the invoice number and your name and they will get you your shipping refund.
Thanks Dave!
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Actually the value of non Lynch sketches (other than those that are drastically different) will go for in the $50-$60 range, at least until the series sells out. Why pay more than a $100 for a card when you have a 40% chance of getting a non Lynch card in every box? Of course the value will depend greatly on how many people are collecting the entire run of sketch cards (every character from every artist). This should be right around 120 cards. 20 Lynch characters plus (2000 / 20 = 100) equals 120. Of course if Dave Gross does a few of different characters instead of 20 of each the 120 number rises, and the value of the characters he did would rise dramatically since there would be less than 20 of each of his. Dave can you shed light on this?
So anyway, as the people who are collecting one of every character from every artist get near the end of collecting the entire set, then certain sketch cards might go up to $200 or more, even if the run isnt sold out. $400 isn't going to happen to any of the non unique pieces until at least there is a sell out and probably not ever.
I only purchased 10 boxes. If by chance sketch card prices go through the roof I can always buy more later, and with not that much more of an expense. I hear dealer types complained about losing money with ANS7. I have a feeling we're going to hear similar "burn" stories here. If Brad's run of good luck pulling colored sketches comes to an end he'll be on that list (although he's not a dealer he buys these as if he were). Brad enjoyed a ratio of pulling twice as many colored sketches (or more) on average then he should have (given the odds). What happens if he all of a sudden is only pulling 50% of what the odds state, and what if Leslie loses interest in buying? Either way could spell big losses, and I hope not because I like Brad, he has really helped me out in the past. All that said, I hope the guys that gouged Wacky collectors by buying up dozens of Halloween postcard sets take huge huge losses here.
John, I agree pretty much with your estimates, but do you really think that someone would try to collect every title from every artist? If an artist did 100 sketches (low-end estimate) that's only 5 for each title, and you would need 20 of them. Plus that's just one artist! Getting one example from just one artist other than Jay's will be a challenge, let alone getting every title from every artist.
You know me, and if there was a realistic way of doing it I would be leading the pack, but I don't see it being possible. At this point I will try for one of each title from Jay's batch and then one example from each of the other artists. I'll be surprised if anyone tries to do more than that! Even Leslie doesn't take the completist approach with b&w sketches, and she mainly focuses on colored ones.
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At this point I will try for one of each title from Jay's batch and then one example from each of the other artists. I'll be surprised if anyone tries to do more than that!
I don't know. When you see these sketches you may change your mind. Everyone did some seriously awesome stuff. I've got most of them sitting in front of me now and it's killing me that they are going bye-bye soon. Hey, do you think anyone will notice if a few are missing? :67:
Just kidding Topps. Count 'em! They are all there! I swear!
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John, I agree pretty much with your estimates, but do you really think that someone would try to collect every title from every artist? If an artist did 100 sketches (low-end estimate) that's only 5 for each title, and you would need 20 of them. Plus that's just one artist! Getting one example from just one artist other than Jay's will be a challenge, let alone getting every title from every artist.
You know me, and if there was a realistic way of doing it I would be leading the pack, but I don't see it being possible. At this point I will try for one of each title from Jay's batch and then one example from each of the other artists. I'll be surprised if anyone tries to do more than that! Even Leslie doesn't take the completist approach with b&w sketches, and she mainly focuses on colored ones.
You're right, and if Dave only does 20 sketches there would only be 1 of each of his, making it an impossible task. Bummer that Dave is not allowed to talk about actual numbers. Outside of anyone that only did one or 2 of each though, maybe Leslie and Marc will shoot for one of each of the ones that exist 5 or more, in that case the ones where there are only 5 of each would obviously be worth a few hundred.
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You're right, and if Dave only does 20 sketches there would only be 1 of each of his, making it an impossible task. Bummer that Dave is not allowed to talk about actual numbers. Outside of anyone that only did one or 2 of each though, maybe Leslie and Marc will shoot for one of each of the ones that exist 5 or more, in that case the ones where there are only 5 of each would obviously be worth a few hundred.
The only thing we know for sure regarding quantities is that the artists did not do the same amounts, so some will be tougher than others. What I need to decide is whether or not to try for the same title from each of the non-Lynch sketches or try to get a different title from each artist. Getting the same title from each artist may be too tough.
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I don't know. When you see these sketches you may change your mind.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to try for one of each, but I really don't think that's possible. Just to compare to a rare series at 120 sketches that's 66% more cards to collect than the Flashback Golds, and aside from Jay's there is an average quantity of 10 per title, vs. 40 of the Flashback Golds. It sounds insane to me, even to think about it!
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Don't get me wrong, I would love to try for one of each, but I really don't think that's possible. Just to compare to a rare series at 120 sketches that's 66% more cards to collect than the Flashback Golds, and aside from Jay's there is an average quantity of 10 per title, vs. 40 of the Flashback Golds. It sounds insane to me, even to think about it!
You could always just collect ones that you like without having any theme or reason for it!
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Who went overboard? Also, the email didn't say ''hello wacky fans'. It said Subject. Are you smoking some of that, 'NOW', illegal wacky tobacky?
As a matter of fact, yes. :laughing7:
The e-mail I received said, "Hello Wacky Packages Fan" at the beginning, but you might not have opened it because you were too busy ordering your truckload of goodies ;D
I believe the wacky weed is still legal in CA. I think the bill that didn’t pass out here in the last election had to do with people wanting to farm cannabis as a commercial crop and the whole taxation issue that goes along with it. My Mom used to give me Avon soap on a rope for Christmas when I was a kid. Now they have dope on rope. But I don’t think hippies use soap very often. Maybe it's also a Now-n-Later, to snack on when you get the munchies.
(http://images.urbanoutfitters.com/is/image/UrbanOutfitters/17311218_030_b?$detailmain$)
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You could always just collect ones that you like without having any theme or reason for it!
um, no, I can't do that! lol My brain doesn't seem to work that way! It would certainly make life easier though.
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Dave,
Will there be sketches included with the 5 x 7 postcard sets? If not any other goodies with those sets besides a wrapper? Also, how many of each postcard full set (OS1 and OS2) will be produced?
Please advise, Andrew
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On one hand I'm a bit nervous about the burn out factor that John described. I could get totally burned but that is a risk we all take. I could get really lucky or just get a proper mix. It's a total crap shoot.
I doubt Leslie will be buying too many sketches at the start. She also ordered a large QTY and I think she will just get regular shipping so she won't get her shipment for about 5-7 days from release and she probably won't buy any sketches off ebay until she see's what she gets. I will be the same way.
We all have to start cracking envelopes to see the variations of sketches. Only the artists and Topps knows what that is and it's for us to discover. I'm sure there will be some very desirable pieces and some very short supply characters. Hell, I didn't even know I had a Lynch one off until about 3 weeks after the OLDS release and then I lost about $400 when I sold it. Didn't someone buy a cow sketch for less than $100 initially until we knew they were very hard to find?
I could see the dealers getting burned on ANS7 right after I opened my first case. I knew I this would be so frustrating with the extreme odds that I just walked away. I sure hope this doesn't happen with OLDS2.
Another thing to look at is if several people bought 5 boxes they may want to buy individual sketches off ebay. I would imagine, initially, these will sell around $50-$100 each just like OLDS sketches did. You may say why pay $50+ for a sketch when you can buy boxes for that price? Well you don't know what you are going to pull for your $50 so it would probably be cheaper to just buy the sketch you like.
That's my 2 cents!
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It's great for Topps and Dave, profit wise, at least for the moment. But it seems to be an unhealthy direction for the series. It seems this series is going to get even less exposure than the first one because of the sketch cards.
It also means more base sets on ebay for me to stick anyplace!
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Dave,
Will there be sketches included with the 5 x 7 postcard sets? If not any other goodies with those sets besides a wrapper? Also, how many of each postcard full set (OS1 and OS2) will be produced?
Please advise, Andrew
They are not postcards. They are like the OLDS1 stickers only this time it's all 33 stickers and the full 33 come in a special over sized wax wrapper. No sketches. Maybe something else. We are talking more bout it after OLDS2 is ready to go out.
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They are not postcards. They are like the OLDS1 stickers only this time it's all 33 stickers and the full 33 come in a special over sized wax wrapper. No sketches. Maybe something else. We are talking more bout it after OLDS2 is ready to go out.
Do you have an in the neighborhood guess regarding price for the 5x7 complete setz?
Assuming and taking for granted these are LE sets
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some very short supply characters.
There are no short supply characters. There are the same amount of every character made in the entire run. Only the artist numbers are different and ANY of those character sketches can be unique depending on what the artist did with it. That could mean unique word balloons, backgrounds, angles, poses, interpretations, mediums, etc. There are many ways to collect these this time:
Get what you get in your box
Get only what you really like
Get one of each character regardless of artist
Get one of each character by each artist
Get one sketch by each artist regardless of the character
Get a set of 20 different character by an artist
Get a set of 20 different character by each artist
and repeat with color choices as well
Last time it was just Jay's sketches and the one-off's made it near impossible to get a set in any form. We went with it this way to open up the sketch cards for a lot more different level of investing in the process types of collectors.
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Do you have an in the neighborhood guess regarding price for the 5x7 complete setz?
Assuming and taking for granted these are LE sets
I don't have any guesses right now. I'm not even sure they have priced out the set yet themselves.
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Of course the value will depend greatly on how many people are collecting the entire run of sketch cards (every character from every artist). This should be right around 120 cards. 20 Lynch characters plus (2000 / 20 = 100) equals 120.
I don't follow your math at all.
there are 20 different characters and 10 sketch artists: 20 x 10 = 200 card set, if someone was trying to "collect them all"
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I don't follow your math at all.
there are 20 different characters and 10 sketch artists: 20 x 10 = 200 card set, if someone was trying to "collect them all"
Actually there should be 11 artists, Jay + the 10 others, so 220 total.
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There are no short supply characters. There are the same amount of every character made in the entire run. Only the artist numbers are different and ANY of those character sketches can be unique depending on what the artist did with it. That could mean unique word balloons, backgrounds, angles, poses, interpretations, mediums, etc. There are many ways to collect these this time:
Get what you get in your box
Get only what you really like
Get one of each character regardless of artist
Get one of each character by each artist
Get one sketch by each artist regardless of the character
Get a set of 20 different character by an artist
Get a set of 20 different character by each artist
and repeat with color choices as well
Last time it was just Jay's sketches and the one-off's made it near impossible to get a set in any form. We went with it this way to open up the sketch cards for a lot more different level of investing in the process types of collectors.
I would add one more which is my game plan........
Get one per character of Jay Lynch, & one character each from the other 10 artists
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Actually there should be 11 artists, Jay + the 10 others, so 220 total.
ah, I see, the flyer lists 10. It doesn't show Dave as a sketch artist.
or maybe we're not supposed to "look for" his sketches, just the other ones. ;)
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I don't follow your math at all.
there are 20 different characters and 10 sketch artists: 20 x 10 = 200 card set, if someone was trying to "collect them all"
I was under the impression that artists would do whatever character they wanted in bunches of twenties. Obviously I was completely mistaken there.
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If the sketch cards were removed we would probably just have to make the 5x7 chase cards and the other chase cards more random and would have more of them. I don't think the sketch cards are going anywhere. Maybe they should be every other box or 1 in 3. I don't know. Something to ponder for down the road.
The sell out that quick was a surprise. I haven't heard the full numbers yet but I was told 75% of them were 5 box orders
so Brad is still the minority. Most of the people I've had contact me who've missed out only need 1-5 boxes. I'm definitely curious to see how many people bought large quantities.
That's a very positive sign for the series. I'm glad for you that it's such a success. But my feeling was if it takes a sketch card chase to sell a mere 5000 boxes then Wacky Packs may be dead. Fortunately that doesn't appear to be the case!
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If this sells out before the Friday night end I'll see if they can put some additional ones up ASAP as I want to make sure everyone that got the email or is on the forum can get some if they like.
Dave, I just got a chance to get online (Wednesday night 8pm ET) and noticed that I didn't stand a chance on ordering any boxes even though I thought Olds2 would be on sale for 3 days. No where near 3 day's. Didn't even make a 1/2 a day. I sent you a reply to the e-mail you've sent about missing this pre-sale deal. I only want to order 5 boxes not 75, 300 or 1000. Geeeeze. Can't help but feel bummed. :'(
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Dave, I just got a chance to get online (Wednesday night 8pm ET) and noticed that I didn't stand a chance on ordering any boxes even though I thought Olds2 would be on sale for 3 days. No where near 3 day's. Didn't even make a 1/2 a day. I sent you a reply to the e-mail you've sent about missing this pre-sale deal. I only want to order 5 boxes not 75, 300 or 1000. Geeeeze. Can't help but feel bummed. :'(
no worries..he'll get ya hooked up :great:
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If this sells out before the Friday night end I'll see if they can put some additional ones up ASAP as I want to make sure everyone that got the email or is on the forum can get some if they like.
That would be nice of them. I could use a few boxes.
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Is there an approx. shipping date for Old School pre-orders?
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Is there an approx. shipping date for Old School pre-orders?
Approx. shipping date is Dec 28th
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I too, went on the site when I got the email, apparently they were already sold out when I saw it. This was Nov. 24th at about 5PM EST, disappointing that they sold out this fast and the limited amount of notice which was given. I would have ordered 2 boxes, not a ridiculous amount like 1000... if anybody has a couple to spare from their order I'd be interested, send a PM or something.
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I too, went on the site when I got the email, apparently they were already sold out when I saw it. This was Nov. 24th at about 5PM EST, disappointing that they sold out this fast and the limited amount of notice which was given. I would have ordered 2 boxes, not a ridiculous amount like 1000... if anybody has a couple to spare from their order I'd be interested, send a PM or something.
I did send out an email 4 days before the email with the link to warn people ahead of time. I just added you to the list for select people to get a new email around Tuesday to get the boxes at the pre-sale price. The list is getting large so they may have a box limit (though 2 should not be a problem). They will also not take orders from anyone that did get orders in during the sell out.
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I did send out an email 4 days before the email with the link to warn people ahead of time. I just added you to the list for select people to get a new email around Tuesday to get the boxes at the pre-sale price. The list is getting large so they may have a box limit (though 2 should not be a problem). They will also not take orders from anyone that did get orders in during the sell out.
Hi Dave. If they limit the boxes we can order (although I do feel that would not be fair due to the ad saying availability for 3 days) would we still be able to get the binder and wrapper with the "box limit" order? :^) I know they didn't expect to sell out that fast, but maybe the ad should of had a disclaimer that could of warned of such a thing like, this pre-sale offer has a limited supply and may not be available for the whole 3 day period. Something like that would of got my ass on the computer that night. But I literally felt like, hey, I got 3 day's to do it (although I tried at the first chance I got). I must admit, it was kinda cool to think that I could actually put my order in and not have to worry or panic about it - boy was I wrong. I am not exaggerating, I really did think this.
So now I have to ask: Tuesday will we have a limited time to act, cuz I know I'll probably get this e-mail when I am AT work. Do I need to call out sick (which I never do) or quit in the middle of the day? :-\
Alright, now I am getting Wacky.
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Hi Dave. If they limit the boxes we can order (although I do feel that would not be fair due to the ad saying availability for 3 days) would we still be able to get the binder and wrapper with the "box limit" order? :^) I know they didn't expect to sell out that fast, but maybe the ad should of had a disclaimer that could of warned of such a thing like, this pre-sale offer has a limited supply and may not be available for the whole 3 day period. Something like that would of got my ass on the computer that night. But I literally felt like, hey, I got 3 day's to do it (although I tried at the first chance I got). I must admit, it was kinda cool to think that I could actually put my order in and not have to worry or panic about it - boy was I wrong. I am not exaggerating, I really did think this.
So now I have to ask: Tuesday will we have a limited time to act, cuz I know I'll probably get this e-mail when I am AT work. Do I need to call out sick (which I never do) or quit in the middle of the day? :-\
Alright, now I am getting Wacky.
Dave did say there would be a limit on number of presale boxes "Limited amount of pre-sale boxes but I don't know the total (probably around the same amount as last time)."
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As Ernie just posted I did mention that it would be limited with the same as last time and mentioned 1000 but possibly a bit more. They decided on 1000.
Since it's now Midnight Friday I am closing the pre-sale/ pre-sale list. I have 86 people to try to get Topps to get boxes for. I honestly don't know how many extra boxes Topps will allow with this extension and if there will be a limit. I highly doubt they won't give people a chance for at least 5 so they can get the binder offer. As I posted earlier there were quite a few people who only need one-three boxes. I have to email Topps the email list, they will look over it to make sure there are no people who already ordered and give me a new link for people on the list only. IF YOU POST THE LINK ANYWHERE YOU WILL FORFEIT YOUR CHANCE TO BUY AT THE PRE-SALE PRICE. No email except what is on this new list can buy. I'm sure they will give the people on the list more than the one day since they know exactly who will be buying. I won't know any new news until late Monday.
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As usual, Dave is going above and beyond here for forum members. I enjoyed the Midnight Madness sale. I live in NJ and it was very late night for me but Wackies are worth being tired for occasionally.
Regards, DrDeal
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As Ernie just posted I did mention that it would be limited with the same as last time and mentioned 1000 but possibly a bit more. They decided on 1000.
Since it's now Midnight Friday I am closing the pre-sale/ pre-sale list. I have 86 people to try to get Topps to get boxes for. I honestly don't know how many extra boxes Topps will allow with this extension and if there will be a limit. I highly doubt they won't give people a chance for at least 5 so they can get the binder offer. As I posted earlier there were quite a few people who only need one-three boxes. I have to email Topps the email list, they will look over it to make sure there are no people who already ordered and give me a new link for people on the list only. IF YOU POST THE LINK ANYWHERE YOU WILL FORFEIT YOUR CHANCE TO BUY AT THE PRE-SALE PRICE. No email except what is on this new list can buy. I'm sure they will give the people on the list more than the one day since they know exactly who will be buying. I won't know any new news until late Monday.
Thanks again for the update Dave and congrats on this new series. Looking forward to getting them! :great:
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Sorry, just so you know, I only received the email on the 24th not the one 4 days before, warning of the presale.
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Surprised no one has posted the latest from Dave regarding OLDS2:
Hello,
Well, I have bad news mixed with a little good news.
Bad news first (for anyone that wanted more than one box). Topps told me today that they cannot do another pre-sale link. Apparently, a number of people called into Topps complaining about me promising a select group of people the special offer again. The claim is that I am selecting people to get the special rate over other people who have as much right to it should it be offered again. Since everyone had the same warning and chance to get them they can't choose people based on my list since they also sent out a general mailing list and the links were also placed on Facebook and Twitter. They already did not have enough boxes they could release to cover the 86 people who contacted me (possibly running up to 400 more boxes) so adding anyone else would have been out of hand.
What I think happened: There were around 5-8 people that bought multiple boxes in the 20+ range. Obviously, if they had bought around 5 then pretty much everyone would have been covered. Based on last years pre-sale which was also 1000 boxes and three days no one had any idea this would sell out in 6 hours. The last pre-sale sold 985 boxes and lasted the full three days. Can't really blame Topps based on last year's results and can't really blame the heavy box buyers because they didn't have any restrictions and in fact, there were just way more buyers this time. There were many people not on my list that were left out too. It's just one of those unfortunate things. So next time around there will be a limit placed on pre-sale orders to ensure everyone has the fair chance to get around 3-5 boxes (whatever the plan is next time) at the sale price and with any shipping or goodies thrown in. We will work to make sure this situation does not happen again.
OK, the good news: I am still working on getting all 86 people at least one box at the pre-sale price and with free shipping. You just have to give me a few weeks to work it out (and finish up my getting my very late OLDS2 paintings done!). Around 20 or so people only asked for one anyway so those people will end up happy. For everyone else, not as much. BUT...Topps owes me a ton of posters for this series so what I'm going to do for anyone (of the 86 that were left out) interested is give you a free OLDS2 poster and free OLDS2 sketch poster from my stash. You would only have to pay me for the tube and shipping which we can do through PayPal when the time comes. This will come from me, not Topps so they would not be playing favorites. I would. That's a $32 (I think) value which would essentially replace the binder as a freebie and you would save some additional cash to cover the $5 more the regular price of OLDS2 will be when it goes on normal sale in late December if you choose to pick up additional boxes. The regular price is only $5 more than the pre-sale and both posters together are worth around $10 more than the binder. Hope this takes some of the sting out of the situation. With these thrown in the reality of the situation is if you were buying around 5 boxes it would cost you around $10 or so more and you'd get the 2 posters instead of the binder. For anyone who was planning to buy a lot of box for dealing or whatever you essentially will just have to factor in $5 more per box for your plans. Not too bad anyway considering the sketch card itself is potentially worth more than the entire box price.
Again, the situation is unfortunate but you never know how these things are going to play out and the fact that there is even a pre-sale at all is pretty good considering Topps does not pre-sell any of their other card lines. So at least everyone is getting some kind of discount. I tried, and based on the current situation, I think my new plan is pretty good for most of the people here. I will LYK along the way how things are progressing but I need until at least the 15th or so of this month to move it along. If you are still angry you can call Topps about it because I don't have any other pull beyond what I attempted to do!
Thanks,
Dave
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This actually has made a long time decision for me easier to finally make.
I am through with new Wackys. As I look back at the seven ANS series and the OLDS1 series, I realize that there are probably less than 10 titles total that I really like as much as the originals. I have spent a lot of money hoping to get some cool chase cards only to be disappointed every time. I realize now that I should have been spending that money on vintage stuff.
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I got that e-mail too. I appreciate Dave working hard to help people. I was a little surprised at first when I read about people calling Topps complaining…but after thinking about it…I shouldn’t have been surprised since complaining is “epidemic”.
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Thanks, Dave, for working so hard for those of us who missed out on the pre-order. And it is extremely generous of you to help us out with the poster give-away. Thanks!
On the other hand, I am very disappointed in Topps for not setting a limit on the number of boxes one person can order. I remember suggesting they do so for the first Old School series for just this reason; and with the after-market for sketch cards as hot as it is, I don't think this quick sell out was unforeseeable. Bottom line is they did not look out for their core collectors this time. I am happy to hear they are learning from their mistakes and will institute a limit next time.
I share Loren's frustration with these developments. While I'm not ready to give up collecting, I am definitely not ready to give up sleep or a day of work (or even golf) to be able to sit in front of the computer waiting to purchase this stuff. Luckily, the members of this forum are very sharing and generous, and we help each other out. I would love to see Topps start a membership of some sort as has been suggested by others (I especially remember Jason coming up with this idea).
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so are they gonna limit the sales per at the end of Dec>???
if not then it don't really matter,we'll still miss out i'm sure,,this hole thing stinks bigtime
i'm shocked that a company that big can't pull it's head outa their ass and get this stuff worked out better
I'm soooo sick of this sh!t
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This actually has made a long time decision for me easier to finally make.
I am through with new Wackys. As I look back at the seven ANS series and the OLDS1 series, I realize that there are probably less than 10 titles total that I really like as much as the originals. I have spent a lot of money hoping to get some cool chase cards only to be disappointed every time. I realize now that I should have been spending that money on vintage stuff.
It's funny you should say this. Over the past few weeks, I have seriously been toying with the idea of giving up on the new wave of Wackys (2004 and newer). There are a variety of reasons I have given this so much consideration. One of them is that it simply drives the "completist" in me crazy that I cannot possibly collect everything from the new era. There was a time early on in this modern era that I actually thought I could. It was sometime around the release of the beach towels a few years back that I finally threw my hands up. Still, I tried to collect *most* things and always thought I could at least get all the cards and their variations. Well, Flashback gold borders killed that dream. Plus, there have been many other card turnoffs along the way, such as Osaka Popstar and Poligripe, where I am forced to buy $20 items that I have no interest in, just for the card.
I don't know what I'm going to do yet. Perhaps sell everything 2004 and newer and just keep 1 base set from each series? Maybe hold on to everything for now in case I get motivated again some day to collect all this stuff. I can tell you I don't have any bonus cards from ANS7. I just don't feel like spending money on that series for some reason. ANS, in general, has never really done much for me. The postcards & Old School, on the other hand, are both very cool. But, all the hoarding and flipping with those 2 sets has really gotten ugly and out of control. It's just not that much fun anymore.
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OK, I have the one box situation covered so everything with that and the posters will work out fine.
Two forum members graciously gave up a number of boxes to help this all work so thanks to them. One of them was Brad so a big thanks to him! If the other person is OK with it I will post who that was.
To be honest I don't see what the major uproar is though in terms of being SO upset as to give up on newer Wackys altogether. There will still be 4000 boxes available so it's not sold out. This is just a discounted price special which is something Topps does not do for any other series anyway. If there had never been one people wouldn't even be talking of being upset because you would just buy them the same way as ANS. In this case everyone is still getting some kind of discount and freebies and at least one box so it's far different than what happened with the postcards where if you missed out you're dependent on the secondary market and highly inflated prices. Boxes will be plentiful in a few weeks at only $5 more.
A simple 5 box limit over a 48 hour period with a start time lowered to 9pm EST should do the trick next time. Anything left after the first 48 hours is fair game for the people who wanted 6 or more. I'll work with them to fine tune it. Again, the first series lasted the full three days so no one saw any reason that this wouldn't as well (and this one was a bit more expensive too). It's just bad luck and a learning experience.
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Boxes will be plentiful in a few weeks at only $5 more.
yes but,, any limits on them per buyer?
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It's funny you should say this. Over the past few weeks, I have seriously been toying with the idea of giving up on the new wave of Wackys (2004 and newer). There are a variety of reasons I have given this so much consideration. One of them is that it simply drives the "completist" in me crazy that I cannot possibly collect everything from the new era. There was a time early on in this modern era that I actually thought I could. It was sometime around the release of the beach towels a few years back that I finally threw my hands up. Still, I tried to collect *most* things and always thought I could at least get all the cards and their variations. Well, Flashback gold borders killed that dream. Plus, there have been many other card turnoffs along the way, such as Osaka Popstar and Poligripe, where I am forced to buy $20 items that I have no interest in, just for the card.
I don't know what I'm going to do yet. Perhaps sell everything 2004 and newer and just keep 1 base set from each series? Maybe hold on to everything for now in case I get motivated again some day to collect all this stuff. I can tell you I don't have any bonus cards from ANS7. I just don't feel like spending money on that series for some reason. ANS, in general, has never really done much for me. The postcards & Old School, on the other hand, are both very cool. But, all the hoarding and flipping with those 2 sets has really gotten ugly and out of control. It's just not that much fun anymore.
I know how you feel,,your NOT alone.
Many of us are thinkin' like this as well,this whole thing has gotten outa control.
I'm so happy my 1st-16th is in shape for the most part,,,they really are the only REAL wacky's any more.
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yes but,, any limits on them per buyer?
I see no reason to put limits on 4000 boxes. 4000 boxes is a huge number. It took 2 1/2 months to sell 2650. That is counter productive to the series selling at a normal rate and ensuring future series. A pre-sale is one thing. A normal sale is totally different.
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I see no reason to put limits on 4000 boxes. 4000 boxes is a huge number. It took 2 1/2 months to sell 2650. That is counter productive to the series selling at a normal rate and ensuring future series. A pre-sale is one thing. A normal sale is totally different.
LOL,,your kidding right!!
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The postcards & Old School, on the other hand, are both very cool. But, all the hoarding and flipping with those 2 sets has really gotten ugly and out of control. It's just not that much fun anymore.
Any hoarding or flipping on OLDS shouldn't affect you unless you were trying to collect tons of sketches. Everyone got a sketch. It's only how many more do you want. Plus the base and chase cards were very easy to get. It's very different than the gold borders. Postcards is in a worse situation than OLDS in that they have a very tight limit. The sketch cards might be far more detrimental to that series but people love them so what do you do? I have some ideas I think will help but I will tell Neil in private first and let him think about it.
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OK, I have the one box situation covered so everything with that and the posters will work out fine.
Two forum members graciously gave up a number of boxes to help this all work so thanks to them. One of them was Brad so a big thanks to him! If the other person is OK with it I will post who that was.
To be honest I don't see what the major uproar is though in terms of being SO upset as to give up on newer Wackys altogether. There will still be 4000 boxes available so it's not sold out. This is just a discounted price special which is something Topps does not do for any other series anyway. If there had never been one people wouldn't even be talking of being upset because you would just buy them the same way as ANS. In this case everyone is still getting some kind of discount and freebies and at least one box so it's far different than what happened with the postcards where if you missed out you're dependent on the secondary market and highly inflated prices. Boxes will be plentiful in a few weeks at only $5 more.
A simple 5 box limit over a 48 hour period with a start time lowered to 9pm EST should do the trick next time. Anything left after the first 48 hours is fair game for the people who wanted 6 or more. I'll work with them to fine tune it. Again, the first series lasted the full three days so no one saw any reason that this wouldn't as well (and this one was a bit more expensive too). It's just bad luck and a learning experience.
Funny how tremendous success equates to bad luck! If we all had this kind of bad luck, we would be lucky to have it!
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LOL,,your kidding right!!
Nope.
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Funny how tremendous success equates to bad luck! If we all had this kind of bad luck, we would be lucky to have it!
I know, totally weird.
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This actually has made a long time decision for me easier to finally make.
I am through with new Wackys. As I look back at the seven ANS series and the OLDS1 series, I realize that there are probably less than 10 titles total that I really like as much as the originals. I have spent a lot of money hoping to get some cool chase cards only to be disappointed every time. I realize now that I should have been spending that money on vintage stuff.
I'm really confused by this. Dave is helping out 86 people with one box each for a savings of $5. Topps is taking a big loss by this because of how much it will cost just to send one box. So you guys are in an uproar over $5? I don't get it. You didn't even talk about ordering 5 boxes to get the free binder. That is a bigger deal. You would save $25, get a free binder, and get free shipping. You all can still buy your one box when they go on sale at the end of the month. There is no shortage!
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I see no reason to put limits on 4000 boxes. 4000 boxes is a huge number. It took 2 1/2 months to sell 2650. That is counter productive to the series selling at a normal rate and ensuring future series. A pre-sale is one thing. A normal sale is totally different.
Hey Dave, thanks for trying on our behalf. Look forward to getting the next e-mail from ya after a few weeks. Now finish those paintings!
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Great. So now people want to splinter into factions of ANS haters and supporters? Let's bring Ron back to head the "ANS aren't real Wackys" brigade. I can't believe people are so upset about not saving five bucks. You didn't miss out on Old School. You just missed out on a chance to save five measly dollars. WTF?!
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Great. So now people want to splinter into factions of ANS haters and supporters? Let's bring Ron back to head the "ANS aren't real Wackys" brigade. I can't believe people are so upset about not saving five bucks. You didn't miss out on Old School. You just missed out on a chance to save five measly dollars. WTF?!
i don't give a fuck about $10
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Because i had a deal with Brad to buy a few boxes with him i never got on your list {Dave} so now i'm outa the pre-sale all togther is my issue.
It's not that big a deal really with them on sale at the end of the month {if so} but with no limits of ANY kind at that time your gonna see huge numbers flyin' out the door,,i know Topps don't care but that's the whole problem.
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i don't give a fuck about $10
O.K. I'll p.m. you my addy, send it to me. :great:
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Because i had a deal with Brad to buy a few boxes with him i never got on your list {Dave} so now i'm outa the pre-sale all togther is my issue.
It's not that big a deal really with them on sale at the end of the month {if so} but with no limits of ANY kind at that time your gonna see huge numbers flyin' out the door,,i know Topps don't care but that's the whole problem.
There is more to this than your letting on. If you don't care about the $10 then what is it? You can still order!
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O.K. I'll p.m. you my addy, send it to me. :great:
LOL,,I waste so much money on this stuff anyway i may as well just give it away
it don't really matter,,,we'll see what happens,,,i'll buy them at some point
i just get a riot outa how all this goes down every time
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Because i had a deal with Brad to buy a few boxes with him i never got on your list {Dave} so now i'm outa the pre-sale all togther is my issue.
It's not that big a deal really with them on sale at the end of the month {if so} but with no limits of ANY kind at that time your gonna see huge numbers flyin' out the door,,i know Topps don't care but that's the whole problem.
Wait, so you made a deal with Brad to get boxes? You should check with Brad to see if that is still valid with him. If you are shut out of the pre-sale maybe some other people here will get you some boxes at the discount price, or the binder.
I posted about the pre-sale 4 days before it started. I also sent out an email warning 4 days before and Topps sent out their million person (or whatever) mailing list about it and posted it on Twitter and Facebook. The only place I can see you not knowing about it at all would have been if you were hanging out only at Greg's and I didn't post it there because...well...I can't. Banned ya know.
As for huge numbers flying off the shelves...well...I hope so! That's the point. But you think that only a few people are going to grab all 4000 boxes in a matter of hours?? Days maybe? If they didn't try to swipe in on this deal to corner everything at a discounted price with free shipping, a binder offer and no limit why would they do it later at all normal price and having to buy up 4000! I just don't see anyone doing anything remotely close to that.
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Because i had a deal with Brad to buy a few boxes with him i never got on your list {Dave} so now i'm outa the pre-sale all togther is my issue.
It's not that big a deal really with them on sale at the end of the month {if so} but with no limits of ANY kind at that time your gonna see huge numbers flyin' out the door,,i know Topps don't care but that's the whole problem.
So why is huge numbers flying out the door a problem? What exactly are you looking to collect here? Sets will be dirt cheap so you won't have to spend more than $10 to get a set. I am sure plenty of sketches will be available at good prices too. What exactly is it you desire? I don't get it.
I would really like to hear from each person who is so terribly upset, exactly what their goal was? Was it to flip some boxes and make a couple of bucks due to getting boxes at a small savings? I got ZERO boxes too and I am not crying a river. If I want some boxes, I will buy during the regular sale for a few bucks more.
If there was no presale at all, then what? Topps has no obligaton to do presales. We would be exactly where we are now. Why aren't people crying rivers about no presale on ANS wackys? We are collectively becoming stupid enough by whining about these presales that Topps might as well stop doing them. They stopped shipping sketch posters due to whining about dinged edges.....really, mint posters? Who the hell cares? If the poster is framed, the edges don't show anyway. If it is displayed without framing, I guaratee it doesn't stay minty mint for long.
Let's all keep complaining and watch the various special deals disappear....
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Brad was doin' the right thing at the time and helping out a few people and with him because of my location i would have saved money.
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Brad was doin' the right thing at the time and helping out a few people and with him because of my location i would have saved money.
this is not news,,,he posted it to help us out,,was no secret
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I'd like to ask for I think I missed the details on this:
Was there a specific box count that needed to be purchased in order to get a flyer?
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Here's the thing. People asked for a pre-sale the first time. Topps never does pre-sales but we talked them into it. They gave up a ton of money with that sale with the steep discount, free shipping, posters and all the problems. I thought there was a good chance that with all that and the success of the series they wouldn't even have another pre-sale. Yet they did and everyone here, on my list and a number of others are still going to get a discount, free shipping and some freebies at Topps loss. To ask them to throw another 500, 1000 out there because it was too much of a success is a bit delusional. Not too mention the all important part I spoke of earlier where they are getting accusations of playing favorites with customers. They just can't do that. Remember that mailing list is mine NOT Topps. I was just tipping people off early and it was 4 days early. I find it hard to believe that (a small few) people are getting this mad. If you are surprised they were all gone by 6am well we all were surprised with you. There are no guarantees. Look at it this way. If you showed up at Best Buy at 5am on Black Friday (knowing in advance of the crazed sale) and a few hundred people were already sitting outside the store and when you finally got in they were out of that Wii you wanted well Best Buy is not making you a special deal to get that Wii a few weeks later. It is what it is but at least I am able to get a big amount of people at least the one with the free shipping and some additional freebies. The end result is the only people that will lose out on anything significant is people who are really chasing tons of sketches to collect. And for them it's a $5 a box "hike" to the normal box rate. The sketch cards are worth far greater than that anyway so I see it not being a huge problem for them.
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I'd like to ask for I think I missed the details on this:
Was there a specific box count that needed to be purchased in order to get a flyer?
Not the flyer but a binder (5 boxes). I have the promos for people and am waiting on flyers but cannot handle that until a few weeks from now as I still have work to finish on the series and the pre-sale and aftermath has been killing a ton of time. Will let everyone know about it as soon as I get everything else finished up.
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Not the flyer but a binder (5 boxes). I have the promos for people and am waiting on flyers but cannot handle that until a few weeks from now as I still have work to finish on the series and the pre-sale and aftermath has been killing a ton of time. Will let everyone know about it as soon as I get everything else finished up.
Thanks for update!
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We are collectively becoming stupid enough by whining about these presales that Topps might as well stop doing them. They stopped shipping sketch posters due to whining about dinged edges.....really, mint posters? Who the hell cares? If the poster is framed, the edges don't show anyway. If it is displayed without framing, I guaratee it doesn't stay minty mint for long.
Let's all keep complaining and watch the various special deals disappear....
I can't begrudge anyone for leaving a hobby - whatever the reasons. It's an option, and if you don't enjoy it, you'd be crazy to continue to take part. That said, I would hope those that missed out on the pre-sale take a moment to remember what others have pointed out - you have merely missed out on the pre-sale, not the series.
Like Ernie, I fear that the only result from the complaints will be that Topps forgoes a pre-sale at all. I would hope that we can all agree, that would be a big negative.
I do hope that, with future Old School and Post Card sets, adjustments are made so that the fewest amount of people get left out - because when passionate collectors miss out - that's not good.
So, while I recognize and respect that some folks may just not be that interested in contemporary Wacky Packages, I have to say that I'm more excited than ever. Even though I've missed out on some of the post card stuff (I never did get a Reese's Peepers, either) - I think they're awesome. With regards to Old School, for me I couldn't have imagined a more enjoyable and exciting contemporary series of Wacky Packages.
I'm so jazzed to see what products were parodied and all of the other goodies that are coming with the boxes!!
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So why is huge numbers flying out the door a problem? What exactly are you looking to collect here? Sets will be dirt cheap so you won't have to spend more than $10 to get a set. I am sure plenty of sketches will be available at good prices too. What exactly is it you desire? I don't get it.
I would really like to hear from each person who is so terribly upset, exactly what their goal was? Was it to flip some boxes and make a couple of bucks due to getting boxes at a small savings? I got ZERO boxes too and I am not crying a river. If I want some boxes, I will buy during the regular sale for a few bucks more.
If there was no presale at all, then what? Topps has no obligaton to do presales. We would be exactly where we are now. Why aren't people crying rivers about no presale on ANS wackys? We are collectively becoming stupid enough by whining about these presales that Topps might as well stop doing them. They stopped shipping sketch posters due to whining about dinged edges.....really, mint posters? Who the hell cares? If the poster is framed, the edges don't show anyway. If it is displayed without framing, I guaratee it doesn't stay minty mint for long.
Let's all keep complaining and watch the various special deals disappear....
Ernie, your right. Generally I observe, people would (sadly) like to see no one get anything special offered at all if THEY can get in on it. O.K., no one expected the sell out to happen that fast. But so what. Others got in on time and some didn't. I didn't, but I'm not whining. As a matter of fact, I hope the one's who did get in on the limited Olds2 offer get some great pulls on their purchases and enjoy them to the max. I mean that sincerely. Could there be jealosy, envy or selfishness in this complaint train somehow? I too would not like to see good offers ruined because of a bunch of whiny complaints. That's life, sometimes you don't miss the boat but when you do - SO WHAT, swim damn it - don't sink and bitch.
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Ernie, your right. Generally I observe, people would (sadly) like to see no one get anything special offered at all if THEY can get in on it. O.K., no one expected the sell out to happen that fast. But so what. Others got in on time and some didn't. I didn't, but I'm not whining. As a matter of fact, I hope the one's who did get in on the limited Olds2 offer get some great pulls on their purchases and enjoy them to the max. I mean that sincerely. Could there be jealosy, envy or selfishness in this complaint train somehow? I too would not like to see good offers ruined because of a bunch of whiny complaints. That's life, sometimes you don't miss the boat but when you do - SO WHAT, swim damn it - don't sink and bitch.
I sure hope you are right about the preorder pulls. If Topps doesn't shuffle those boxes around enough and all the preorders end up with the basics there will be a lot of pissed off people.
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I sure hope you are right about the preorder pulls. If Topps doesn't shuffle those boxes around enough and all the preorders end up with the basics there will be a lot of pissed off people.
I could see disappointed - but pissed off? I hope that's really not the case. I fear that, in general, setting expectations too high is one of the problems we're dealing with here.
If I read it correctly, a previous post seemed to indicate that a person was frustrated (and stopping collecting the new stuff) because they hadn't pulled "great" inserts. I can't entirely dismiss the sentiment, as the hope for these color sketches or what-have-you is a big deal to a lot of us, and a big draw - but when that becomes the overriding factor you are hoping for - a collector really sets themselves up for disappointment.
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I'm really confused by this. Dave is helping out 86 people with one box each for a savings of $5. Topps is taking a big loss by this because of how much it will cost just to send one box. So you guys are in an uproar over $5? I don't get it. You didn't even talk about ordering 5 boxes to get the free binder. That is a bigger deal. You would save $25, get a free binder, and get free shipping. You all can still buy your one box when they go on sale at the end of the month. There is no shortage!
I was thinking the same thing but I was reading all of the posts before responding to try to figure out what I was missing. The ones that have issues over this are basing their frustration on $5.00 a box? Seriously? I can see being frustrated over the Postcard series because it sold out so fast and those that missed out have to scramble somehow to get a set, but in this case these will be readily available for plenty of time for everyone that wants them, in multiple quantities. The only thing some missed out on were the special rate, but it was a SPECIAL. Maybe Dave shouldn't do the special pre-orders anymore and just have Topps sell them at the same rate to everyone.
What am I missing here guys?
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I sure hope you are right about the preorder pulls. If Topps doesn't shuffle those boxes around enough and all the preorders end up with the basics there will be a lot of pissed off people.
Just wishing folks the best Brad, nothing else. Who know's what will be? I DO know that I can't be mad at others because they ordered before me, or I cant be mad at Topps for having a pre-sale, Dave for trying to help us or at any of the new series. I like a lot of the new parodies and am thankful they have come our way and am looking forward to the new OLDS 2. I do not have any expectations when I open a box and do not feel unrealistically like I am due anything personally. Just hope for the best.
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i don't give a fuck about $10
So if your issue isn't money what is it then? Are you really in fear of having 4,000 boxes sell out so fast that you won't be able to get any?
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What am I missing here guys?
My guess is that some of this frustration is coming from the fact that a number of collectors also recently missed out on the Halloween post cards so, even though this is just a pre-sale, and not really missing out on Old School 2 - the response, on top of the Halloween post card missing out, is frustration.
While I do not share their frustration - I at least understand it, and if people want to quit because of it, that's unfortunate, but what else can be done? Dave, with the help of other forum members, has made moves to at least ease some of the disappointment people are encountering due to the quick sell-out. Along with that, he's also making thoughtful suggestions as to how the next pre-sale can avoid this same situation.
In the end, you can't make someone want to collect something. People lose interest in all sorts of hobbies all the time, for any number of reasons. If the moves and adjustments Dave and Topps are making to address these frustrations, going forward, is not enough to keep these folks excited to collect - that sucks, but you can't say that serious efforts have not been made to keep people happy.
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I hate to add my 2 cents in such an emotional time, but really, there are 4000 boxes left, no one missed out on anything here.
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My guess is that some of this frustration is coming from the fact that a number of collectors also recently missed out on the Halloween post cards so, even though this is just a pre-sale, and not really missing out on Old School 2 - the response, on top of the Halloween post card missing out, is frustration.
While I do not share their frustration - I at least understand it, and if people want to quit because of it, that's unfortunate, but what else can be done? Dave, with the help of other forum members, has made moves to at least ease some of the disappointment people are encountering due to the quick sell-out. Along with that, he's also making thoughtful suggestions as to how the next pre-sale can avoid this same situation.
In the end, you can't make someone want to collect something. People lose interest in all sorts of hobbies all the time, for any number of reasons. If the moves and adjustments Dave and Topps are making to address these frustrations, going forward, is not enough to keep these folks excited to collect - that sucks, but you can't say that serious efforts have not been made to keep people happy.
Well said Jason, and as I mentioned I do understand the frustration over missing out on the postcard series, but this is a different deal and they shouldn't be lumping them together. Now if the balance of the boxes sold out in 24 hours and a bunch of collectors missed out entirely, that's a different story, but that's not going to happen. Even if it blows away Series 1 we will still be talking several weeks, not hours. As long as members check the forum every day or so there should be no way they get shut out.
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Ernie, your right. Generally I observe, people would (sadly) like to see no one get anything special offered at all if THEY can get in on it. O.K., no one expected the sell out to happen that fast. But so what. Others got in on time and some didn't. I didn't, but I'm not whining. As a matter of fact, I hope the one's who did get in on the limited Olds2 offer get some great pulls on their purchases and enjoy them to the max. I mean that sincerely. Could there be jealosy, envy or selfishness in this complaint train somehow? I too would not like to see good offers ruined because of a bunch of whiny complaints. That's life, sometimes you don't miss the boat but when you do - SO WHAT, swim damn it - don't sink and bitch.
I am still perplexed by your post, you didn't miss out on these! All you missed was a small discount! You can get a box and pull a great sketch just like anyone else!
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I was thinking the same thing but I was reading all of the posts before responding to try to figure out what I was missing. The ones that have issues over this are basing their frustration on $5.00 a box? Seriously? I can see being frustrated over the Postcard series because it sold out so fast and those that missed out have to scramble somehow to get a set, but in this case these will be readily available for plenty of time for everyone that wants them, in multiple quantities. The only thing some missed out on were the special rate, but it was a SPECIAL. Maybe Dave shouldn't do the special pre-orders anymore and just have Topps sell them at the same rate to everyone.
What am I missing here guys?
I'm not one of the guys who is going to quit, but I did express frustration, so I'll chime in here. My frustration is with Topps not putting a buy limit on this series. I would think the point of having a pre-order is to help out the hard core fans, not the eBay flippers. I can afford the extra $5 a box (plus shipping, I imagine), so it's really not about the money (although, I'll probably buy 1 or 2 fewer boxes this way). Jason pointed out that some of us (me included) missed out on the Halloween Postcard set as well, and that plays a role in my frustration. It gets frustrating missing out on something SPECIAL, no matter how small.
I certainly don't want to see Topps end the pre-orders, even if I miss out. As I stated before, I'm very glad to hear that there will be changes to upcoming Old School pre-orders. I was merely expressing my point of view, to try to encourage Topps to make those changes - and I feel like I was heard, so color me happy, and I'll refrain from responding any further.
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I'm not one of the guys who is going to quit, but I did express frustration, so I'll chime in here. My frustration is with Topps not putting a buy limit on this series. I would think the point of having a pre-order is to help out the hard core fans, not the eBay flippers. I can afford the extra $5 a box (plus shipping, I imagine), so it's really not about the money (although, I'll probably buy 1 or 2 fewer boxes this way). Jason pointed out that some of us (me included) missed out on the Halloween Postcard set as well, and that plays a role in my frustration. It gets frustrating missing out on something SPECIAL, no matter how small.
I certainly don't want to see Topps end the pre-orders, even if I miss out. As I stated before, I'm very glad to hear that there will be changes to upcoming Old School pre-orders. I was merely expressing my point of view, to try to encourage Topps to make those changes - and I feel like I was heard, so color me happy, and I'll refrain from responding any further.
This seems like a reasonable response.
I think everyone, the forum, Dave, and Topps, were surprised by the incredibly rapid sell-out of the pre-sale. This was not an issue at all with the Old School 1 pre-sale, so the precedent was that it shouldn't be a problem this time. That's a reasonable thing, so I can understand why no one thought to put a box limit on the pre-sale. But clearly, things have changed. And now they know.
Sounds like next time, there will be some kind of initial window of box-limits during the pre-sale period - so at least it's addressed next time.
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The binder? I was planning on buying that when they go on sale anyway because I wasn't going to buy 5 boxes just so I could get a binder. Apparently now I'll have to buy another box at regular price anyway so I can just add the binder in with that order.
I'm glad that we're getting at least one box per person from this pre-sale, and everything else that has been said about having an order limit on the pre-sale makes sense, I'm not sure why Topps didn't think of it, but not for the regular sale. In hindsight if there was a limit of 5 per and 1000 available, that's at least 200 very lucky people vs the regular price at least.
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OK, I have the one box situation covered so everything with that and the posters will work out fine.
Two forum members graciously gave up a number of boxes to help this all work so thanks to them. One of them was Brad so a big thanks to him! If the other person is OK with it I will post who that was.
To be honest I don't see what the major uproar is though in terms of being SO upset as to give up on newer Wackys altogether. There will still be 4000 boxes available so it's not sold out. This is just a discounted price special which is something Topps does not do for any other series anyway. If there had never been one people wouldn't even be talking of being upset because you would just buy them the same way as ANS. In this case everyone is still getting some kind of discount and freebies and at least one box so it's far different than what happened with the postcards where if you missed out you're dependent on the secondary market and highly inflated prices. Boxes will be plentiful in a few weeks at only $5 more.
A simple 5 box limit over a 48 hour period with a start time lowered to 9pm EST should do the trick next time. Anything left after the first 48 hours is fair game for the people who wanted 6 or more. I'll work with them to fine tune it. Again, the first series lasted the full three days so no one saw any reason that this wouldn't as well (and this one was a bit more expensive too). It's just bad luck and a learning experience.
Thanks to Brad and the anonymous forum member for helping the rest of us out. You guys rock!
Thanks also, Dave, for all the time and effort you're investing to work this thing out.
The 5 box limit for the first 48 hours with a 9PM EST start time sounds great!
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OK, I have the one box situation covered so everything with that and the posters will work out fine.
Two forum members graciously gave up a number of boxes to help this all work so thanks to them. One of them was Brad so a big thanks to him! If the other person is OK with it I will post who that was.
To be honest I don't see what the major uproar is though in terms of being SO upset as to give up on newer Wackys altogether. There will still be 4000 boxes available so it's not sold out. This is just a discounted price special which is something Topps does not do for any other series anyway. If there had never been one people wouldn't even be talking of being upset because you would just buy them the same way as ANS. In this case everyone is still getting some kind of discount and freebies and at least one box so it's far different than what happened with the postcards where if you missed out you're dependent on the secondary market and highly inflated prices. Boxes will be plentiful in a few weeks at only $5 more.
A simple 5 box limit over a 48 hour period with a start time lowered to 9pm EST should do the trick next time. Anything left after the first 48 hours is fair game for the people who wanted 6 or more. I'll work with them to fine tune it. Again, the first series lasted the full three days so no one saw any reason that this wouldn't as well (and this one was a bit more expensive too). It's just bad luck and a learning experience.
Yo Dave,
Way late to the party here!!! Are you saying that the 86 people who missed out are going to get posters ( sketch and regular) while the ones that ordered via Topps won't be getting any posters?? just the binders if you ordered 5 or or boxes?Did I get that right?? NOW I AM PISSED!!!
BTW what comes in the binders???
Or is Topps sending FREEBIES and those are part of it...like OLDS1 based on the # of boxes?
I think you are going above and beyond the call - kudos to you - can you send me posters as well???
Are the same people whining about missing the pre-sale the same people whining about the PostCard series miss?? FYI...You guys need to be MORE CALCULATED!!!
Dave - Whe are you seding out the flyer and promo??...BTW great job...
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This seems like a reasonable response.
I think everyone, the forum, Dave, and Topps, were surprised by the incredibly rapid sell-out of the pre-sale. This was not an issue at all with the Old School 1 pre-sale, so the precedent was that it shouldn't be a problem this time. That's a reasonable thing, so I can understand why no one thought to put a box limit on the pre-sale. But clearly, things have changed. And now they know.
Sounds like next time, there will be some kind of initial window of box-limits during the pre-sale period - so at least it's addressed next time.
Dude,
I don't think Topps is doing a pre-sale next time!! after all the whining and complaining.."you can please some of the peeps..etc..." you get the point...
They are probably fed up...the limit on pre-sale won't work either..more constraints for them...they'll just bag it...I would...then others will complain they missed out on that one too....
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Dude,
I don't think Topps is doing a pre-sale next time!! after all the whining and complaining.."you can please some of the peeps..etc..." you get the point...
They are probably fed up...the limit on pre-sale won't work either..more constraints for them...they'll just bag it...I would...then others will complain they missed out on that one too....
How does one get on this mystery email list of Topps? I have ordered from Topps online many times yet I am not on any email list, that is for sure....
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I sure hope you are right about the preorder pulls. If Topps doesn't shuffle those boxes around enough and all the preorders end up with the basics there will be a lot of pissed off people.
I’ve wondered how boxes with sketches are randomized.
I’m imagining a huge game of musical chairs in the Topps shipping warehouse.
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Are you saying that the 86 people who missed out are going to get posters ( sketch and regular) while the ones that ordered via Topps won't be getting any posters?? just the binders if you ordered 5 or or boxes?Did I get that right?? NOW I AM PISSED!!!
BTW what comes in the binders???
No, Topps is not sending people posters. This is not a Topps deal. I am organizing getting the single box for each of 86 people myself through working with some people that had bought many extras and dealing with the limited amount of boxes left after some people's credit cards were declined. That will be 86 total for 86 people. The only thing Topps is doing for me and everyone is shipping them for free. I am going to give the posters I get from Topps as part of my deal with them to the 86 people who missed out on getting extra boxes/ the binders or whatever. That's like $2500 or so in posters I am giving of my own. These posters are mine and have nothing to do with Topps. I am only going to ask people cover the tube and postage through PayPal.
The binder comes with an OLDS2 wax wrapper.
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I’ve wondered how boxes with sketches are randomized.
I’m imagining a huge game of musical chairs in the Topps shipping warehouse.
I have brought up with them making sure all the sketches are completely mixed up. They said they were last time but I am emphasizing it to them again as something people want to desperately see happen.
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Yo Dave,
Way late to the party here!!! Are you saying that the 86 people who missed out are going to get posters ( sketch and regular) while the ones that ordered via Topps won't be getting any posters?? just the binders if you ordered 5 or or boxes?Did I get that right?? NOW I AM PISSED!!!
OK, so getting angry is the correct reaction to missing out on something. Got it.
BTW what comes in the binders???
Or is Topps sending FREEBIES and those are part of it...like OLDS1 based on the # of boxes?
I think you are going above and beyond the call - kudos to you - can you send me posters as well???
Are the same people whining about missing the pre-sale the same people whining about the PostCard series miss?? FYI...You guys need to be MORE CALCULATED!!!
Dave - Whe are you seding out the flyer and promo??...BTW great job...
Maybe you need to be less calculated so you don't miss out on the extras the late people get!
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Dude,
I don't think Topps is doing a pre-sale next time!! after all the whining and complaining.."you can please some of the peeps..etc..." you get the point...
They are probably fed up...the limit on pre-sale won't work either..more constraints for them...they'll just bag it...I would...then others will complain they missed out on that one too....
Careful, it's starting to sound like you're whining and complaining.
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How does one get on this mystery email list of Topps? I have ordered from Topps online many times yet I am not on any email list, that is for sure....
Ernie, I've had the same problem with Topps. Fortunately I've kept up with new releases via Dave's emails and this forum, but not once has Topps corporate ever sent me an email announcing anything Wacky related. I DO get occasional emails promoting various sports sets I couldn't care less about, but that's it. I'm not sure they're set up to notify anyone about Wacky Packages related items.
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No, Topps is not sending people posters. This is not a Topps deal. I am organizing getting the single box for each of 86 people myself through working with some people that had bought many extras and dealing with the limited amount of boxes left after some people's credit cards were declined. That will be 86 total for 86 people. The only thing Topps is doing for me and everyone is shipping them for free. I am going to give the posters I get from Topps as part of my deal with them to the 86 people who missed out on getting extra boxes/ the binders or whatever. That's like $2500 or so in posters I am giving of my own. These posters are mine and have nothing to do with Topps. I am only going to ask people cover the tube and postage through PayPal.
The binder comes with an OLDS2 wax wrapper.
Dave,
Thanks for going through all these contortions trying to get some kind of deal for those of us who missed out on the pre-sale. This whole topic is on verge of becoming a case of "beating the dead horse," but I'll chime in with my 2 cents anyhow:
• The pre-sale was announced pretty clearly on this forum, so for people like myself who just assumed we'd have a couple of days to order, that's our fault for not getting to it fast enough. I do think that Topps would have been wise to limit the pre-sale quantities to 5 per customer, but Dave's already said they'll do that next time (assuming there is a next time for this pre-sale), so that's taken care of. It's a bummer for those of us who missed out, but I still think it's better than weak sales. Poor sales = no future releases. Personally, I am hoping for an Old School 3.
• The cheaper price and free shipper were a nice bonus, but as Dave said, you can still buy the boxes at the regular price (which isn't THAT much more than the presale price, especially if you're only buying a couple of boxes).
• If you weren't on Dave's mailing list and are not happy about that, then just PM him and ask to be on it for the next time something like this comes up. Problem solved!
• I agree with Dave that there's no reason to limit sales on the regular release date. Topps isn't making Wackys out of the goodness of their hearts; they actually want to sell product - all of it, if possible. So there's no upside to them in holding back sales and potentially ending up with unsold product. It just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint, especially when they already did a presale at a significant discount. If you're really worried about it selling out, then be sure to get online right when they go on sale. With 4000 boxes available, they're not going to sell out in an hour, or even a day, I would guess.
• The one thing that I am still bummed about is missing out on the free binder with the 5 box order, as I think those binders are a bit pricey to being with. Dave, is there any chance that Topps might offer ONE free binder to anyone who buys a certain number of boxes during the regular sale? Maybe you'd need to buy more than 5 boxes for to get it (perhaps 10?), but at some point, I'd think the overall total sale price would warrant something extra. They could still charge for the extra shipping that binder may require; it would just be a bonus item thrown into the shipper box. And since you'd only get one free binder regardless of how many boxes you bought beyond the minimum, it wouldn't be a big bonus for high quantity ebay buyers; more of an individual collector incentive. What do you think?
• Again, I feel that Dave has gone above and beyond with this whole thing trying to make all of us happy. It's not like Topps is paying him to spend hours writing posts, sending emails and giving out posters to help out the core collectors. So I hope we can all at least appreciate his efforts here, even if we're frustrated with Topps and how this played out.
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The 5 box limit for the first 48 hours with a 9PM EST start time sounds great!
I too think this might help.
However, do remember what Dave posted earlier: there was his mailing list (a couple hundred folks), Topps' mailing list (with thousands of folks on it), plus updates on Twiter and Facebook (which has the potential to reach thousands and thousands more folks). So, even if next time they offer 1000 in pre-sale and limit it to 5 per person, all it would take is 200 folks buying the max of 5 to sell it out. With the far-reaching expanse of the Internet, this could still easily sell out in a couple hours. We have to remember that there are most likely a lot more people in the world collecting Wackys than just those on the forum(s).
As Dave noted with his Black Friday Best Buy example, if folks want to get in on a bargain they have to sacrifice a little for it. Otherwise, just buy your boxes during the regular sale. If I had not gotten my two boxes at 5:20am on Wednesday the 24th (probably two of the last boxes by accounts) I would have just bought two come the end of December.
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I too think this might help.
However, do remember what Dave posted earlier: there was his mailing list (a couple hundred folks), Topps' mailing list (with thousands of folks on it), plus updates on Twiter and Facebook (which has the potential to reach thousands and thousands more folks). So, even if next time they offer 1000 in pre-sale and limit it to 5 per person, all it would take is 200 folks buying the max of 5 to sell it out. With the far-reaching expanse of the Internet, this could still easily sell out in a couple hours. We have to remember that there are most likely a lot more people in the world collecting Wackys than just those on the forum(s).
As Dave noted with his Black Friday Best Buy example, if folks want to get in on a bargain they have to sacrifice a little for it. Otherwise, just buy your boxes during the regular sale. If I had not gotten my two boxes at 5:20am on Wednesday the 24th (probably two of the last boxes by accounts) I would have just bought two come the end of December.
Good points, and I understand and agree with them. In using Dave's analogy, Best Buy has a limit on the number of units one shopper can purchase. I'm just sorry that Topps didn't have the foresight to put limits on the pre-sale when there was seemingly little downside to doing so. Dave has told us that Topps wants to have product to sell on their website for many months or longer. If putting limits on the number of boxes one person can buy is a good idea for Old School 3, it was a good idea for Old School 1 and 2 - especially since it sounds like Topps would be better off if they didn't sell the full 1000 boxes in the pre-sale. If I miss out in what seems like a fair system, I'll be content with my choice to sleep or work or go to the bathroom instead of "getting in on the deal". I'm glad Topps seems to have heard the complaints and is working to address the issues.
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How does one get on this mystery email list of Topps? I have ordered from Topps online many times yet I am not on any email list, that is for sure....
Same here...for years I have ordered from Topps and never once received an email from them...go figure..
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No, Topps is not sending people posters. This is not a Topps deal. I am organizing getting the single box for each of 86 people myself through working with some people that had bought many extras and dealing with the limited amount of boxes left after some people's credit cards were declined. That will be 86 total for 86 people. The only thing Topps is doing for me and everyone is shipping them for free. I am going to give the posters I get from Topps as part of my deal with them to the 86 people who missed out on getting extra boxes/ the binders or whatever. That's like $2500 or so in posters I am giving of my own. These posters are mine and have nothing to do with Topps. I am only going to ask people cover the tube and postage through PayPal.
The binder comes with an OLDS2 wax wrapper.
Dave,
The poster gesture is typical of your above the norm efforts to take care of board members. I did get 3 boxes in the sale. I am happy that you are giving those who missed the Midnight Madness sale a bonus.
Thanks for all your efforts to ensure everyone is happy.
Regards, Andrew
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OK, so getting angry is the correct reaction to missing out on something. Got it.
Maybe you need to be less calculated so you don't miss out on the extras the late people get!
No Dude...I was just kidding..."It is what it is"..I'll just buy my posters...i'd rather not miss out...just based on the amount of 'hype' on here, I knew the pre-sale was going to go fast...its like trading: "get in or watch from the sidelines"
Did Brad actually order 100 boxes...Wow!! That's Crazy...it those colored sketches...
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No Dude...I was just kidding..."It is what it is"..I'll just buy my posters...i'd rather not miss out...just based on the amount of 'hype' on here, I knew the pre-sale was going to go fast...its like trading: "get in or watch from the sidelines"
Did Brad actually order 100 boxes...Wow!! That's Crazy...it those colored sketches...
I thought you might be kidding, but couldn't resist in case you weren't! Thanks for letting me know.
I hope it works out as well for Brad as it did last time - it sounds like a great way to get a great collection at a reasonable (or non-existant) cost. I just don't have the energy to sell all the extras. And again, kudos to Brad for letting some of his order go to the ones who got left out.
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I am still perplexed by your post, you didn't miss out on these! All you missed was a small discount! You can get a box and pull a great sketch just like anyone else!
Didn't mean to perplex ya. I know I just missed a small discount, wrapper and binder with the pre-sale, but Dave is making it up in a different way which is fantastic and above and beyond. As far as the sketches go, I'll be happy with whatever I pull from the sketches most likely. I am really not crazy about sketches like some others here. I like them, I just do not try to collect a bunch, I get what I get and that is O.K. with me. To me, since they are all basically 1 of 1 no matter if the sketch is of the same character, it's a win win. Of course it would be cool to get a colored one, but I'll be happy with just about any sketch from the sound of the great artistist involved with making them.
I don't know how you interpreted my post as I missed out, I was actually saying the opposite - Even if I DID miss out, it would of been my own fault for not ordering right away. I also was saying how it would be sad to see special offers, pre-sales, limited edtions go away because of some folks complaining, when they have had the same opportunity as everyone else. Hope that clears it up for you.
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I've seen some people bring up the $5 saving on the pre-order and how it's not a big deal. Well, that's sort of misleading. First of all, it's not $5 off overall. It's $5 off PER BOX. Secondly, Topps will probably be charging something like $8 or $9 to ship a single box. So if you wanted to buy one box, we're actually talking about a saving of more like $14. I'd say that's a pretty significant savings. If the pre-order savings wasn't that big of a deal to people, these boxes wouldn't have sold out in the ridiculous amount of time that they did. People were salivating over that deal.
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I've seen some people bring up the $5 saving on the pre-order and how it's not a big deal. Well, that's sort of misleading. First of all, it's not $5 off overall. It's $5 off PER BOX. Secondly, Topps will probably be charging something like $8 or $9 to ship a single box. So if you wanted to buy one box, we're actually talking about a saving of more like $14. I'd say that's a pretty significant savings. If the pre-order savings wasn't that big of a deal to people, these boxes wouldn't have sold out in the ridiculous amount of time that they did. People were salivating over that deal.
I have to agree with that...its in the details...the shipping makes the diff...shipping on 20 to 100 boxes is significant, maybe not so much on 1 box...5 boxes * $5 = $25 savings + 14? shipping = $39 savings...+ Binder $21 value...not bad...hence the 1000 box sell out...
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Ok, I just read through about 20 pages of posts and I believe I can summarize as follows:
(1) Kudos to Dave for managing all of this, keeping his cool, and basically bending over backwards to take care of people.
(2) Kudos to Brad and an anonymous donor for taking care of people who missed out on the pre-sale.
(3) Kudos to Topps, who offer us die-hard collectors a bargain when they really don't have to; further kudos to Topps for learning from their mistakes by listening to feedback -- both good (like the 5x7 idea) and bad (like limiting pre-sales orders) -- to make things better for us in the long run.
(4) Sympathy to those who missed out -- I know the feeling from the Halloween Postcards, which was remedied for me by Patrick, showing yet another magnanimous gesture by members of this most awesome group of collectors.
(5) We desperately need to find wackyone a keyboard with a working . key! ;)
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If the pre-order savings wasn't that big of a deal to people, these boxes wouldn't have sold out in the ridiculous amount of time that they did. People were salivating over that deal.
The pre-order savings was a nice enticement to buyers but I think you are forgetting something important. This hobby has really taken a turn (good or bad you decide) over the past few years with the advent of limited edition postcards, sketch cards, etc.., There are people out there who do not want to wait and buy these cards when they go on sale for everyone. The general consensus says OS2 will last for a sufficient amount of time but then again, the pre-order lasted much less than anyone thought. Some people do not want to take the chance regardless how remote it may seem.
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The pre-order savings was a nice enticement to buyers but I think you are forgetting something important. This hobby has really taken a turn (good or bad you decide) over the past few years with the advent of limited edition postcards, sketch cards, etc.., There are people out there who do not want to wait and buy these cards when they go on sale for everyone. The general consensus says OS2 will last for a sufficient amount of time but then again, the pre-order lasted much less than anyone thought. Some people do not want to take the chance regardless how remote it may seem.
I think you have to look at collecting Wacky's differently now. If you want to just collect the mass marketed series those will be plentiful. If you want to be a completist then you will have to deal with some of the limited supply runs. OLDS2 will have plenty of supply. The postcards will always be a rush.
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I think you have to look at collecting Wacky's differently now. If you want to just collect the mass marketed series those will be plentiful. If you want to be a completist then you will have to deal with some of the limited supply runs. OLDS2 will have plenty of supply. The postcards will always be a rush.
Anything that guarantees a sketch card or other highly desirable item can't be snoozed upon. It won't be just WP collectors fighting for these items. Non collectors will join the mix for the likely profit which can be made. I'll be one surprised sob if OS2 doesn't sell out faster than the first series.
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The pre-order savings was a nice enticement to buyers but I think you are forgetting something important. This hobby has really taken a turn (good or bad you decide) over the past few years with the advent of limited edition postcards, sketch cards, etc.., There are people out there who do not want to wait and buy these cards when they go on sale for everyone. The general consensus says OS2 will last for a sufficient amount of time but then again, the pre-order lasted much less than anyone thought. Some people do not want to take the chance regardless how remote it may seem.
I don't know, I still say that the rapid pre-order sellout was more about the great savings people knew they were getting (and make no mistake about it, it was a great deal) than it was the fear of getting shutout altogether from Old School 2. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that part. I'm still a little annoyed about the whole thing -- I can't be up at 2am on a weeknight ordering Wackys.
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I don't know, I still say that the rapid pre-order sellout was more about the great savings people knew they were getting (and make no mistake about it, it was a great deal) than it was the fear of getting shutout altogether from Old School 2. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that part. I'm still a little annoyed about the whole thing -- I can't be up at 2am on a weeknight ordering Wackys.
Acquire a sleep disorder than it's a piece of cake...........
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Anything that guarantees a sketch card or other highly desirable item can't be snoozed upon. It won't be just WP collectors fighting for these items. Non collectors will join the mix for the likely profit which can be made.
Precisely - like the scumbag in Chicago who buys like 40 postcard sets when they are supposedly limited to 5 per person, then immediately flips the sketch cards on ebay and laughs all the way to the bank.
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Acquire a sleep disorder than it's a piece of cake...........
the cake is a lie....
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I don't know, I still say that the rapid pre-order sellout was more about the great savings people knew they were getting (and make no mistake about it, it was a great deal) than it was the fear of getting shutout altogether from Old School 2. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that part. I'm still a little annoyed about the whole thing -- I can't be up at 2am on a weeknight ordering Wackys.
OK, I'm still wrapping my head around this preorder thing. People are still pissed but it makes no sense. I know people like a bargain but what is considered a bargain? To try and get a colored sketch with one box? I really have no idea. There were more colored sketch cards with the halloween series than before and now I have seen a couple forum members, that only got the minimum 5 sets, have color sketch cards on ebay. So does that make them out to be bad persons? NO! they got lucky! The colored were not what they were after so the decided to sell them. Now you think just because a person bought more than 5 boxes they are evil gold digging scum? No, You don't know what you will get if you bought 5, 10,50, or 100 boxes. There were forum members that bought over 100 boxes of OLDS and didn't pull one colored sketch. This could happen with OLDS2. No one knows! It's like a raffle ticket. No one knows what they will get. Hell, you may be better off buying boxes after the sale because you don't know how these boxes will be randomly sorted. We are all suspect of the original OLDS because of the scarcity of the colored (30 still haven't shown up). I know Dave said Topps did sort them randomly but there is still some speculation as there always will with people buying large QTY without results. That is the way it's going to be.
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The sheer speed and intensity of these pre-sales and limited editions selling out so quickly is probably bothering people the most because we all want to get at least one of these things, and because having Wacky Collecting being stressful is not on the top of my wish list. I'm still in the game, but that Halloween thing really knocked me for a loop.
As for people getting around the buying limits, I don't like it one bit. It's very sleazy imo; a type of cheating. Flipping stuff out of the 5 (or whatever) limit is perfectly legit in my book, but buying more than your fair share means others get none, and that's absolutely lame. Sorry, no excuses for it imo. I'd like to see a list of known dealers doing this because I for one would be less likely to buy from them in the future.
And for you statisticians out there, I was one of those people who wanted to buy some boxes in the pre-sale for multiple reasons: (1) I wanted to finally get in on one of these things (after missing the last three postcard runs); (2) I wanted to buy them a little cheaper than retail; (3) Free shipping is awesome; (4) I really like the Topps binders so getting one as a freebie was very cool, especially after having paid shipping on them in the past.
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The sheer speed and intensity of these pre-sales and limited editions selling out so quickly is probably bothering people the most because we all want to get at least one of these things, and because having Wacky Collecting being stressful is not on the top of my wish list. I'm still in the game, but that Halloween thing really knocked me for a loop.
As for people getting around the buying limits, I don't like it one bit. It's very sleazy imo; a type of cheating. Flipping stuff out of the 5 (or whatever) limit is perfectly legit in my book, but buying more than your fair share means others get none, and that's absolutely lame. Sorry, no excuses for it imo. I'd like to see a list of known dealers doing this because I for one would be less likely to buy from them in the future.
And for you statisticians out there, I was one of those people who wanted to buy some boxes in the pre-sale for multiple reasons: (1) I wanted to finally get in on one of these things (after missing the last three postcard runs); (2) I wanted to buy them a little cheaper than retail; (3) Free shipping is awesome; (4) I really like the Topps binders so getting one as a freebie was very cool, especially after having paid shipping on them in the past.
When I was a kid I had the local drug store telling me I couldn't buy more than two packs a day because they wanted equal distribution among the children. Something communist China might order. Now Topps decides to pull the same shit on me as an adult. Well I call bullshit on that. I don't think you should be too judgmental of those who skirt the rules of collecting set down upon us either by corporate America or the local drug store.
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I don't know, I still say that the rapid pre-order sellout was more about the great savings people knew they were getting (and make no mistake about it, it was a great deal) than it was the fear of getting shutout altogether from Old School 2. I guess we'll just have to disagree on that part. I'm still a little annoyed about the whole thing -- I can't be up at 2am on a weeknight ordering Wackys.
I think ordering Wackys in the middle of the night knowing a bunch of other like minded Wacky Fans are doing the same thing is fun as long as its not a weekly occurance. My wife was quite surprised when I let her know I had to stay up late to put in my order. I was tired the next day but it was worth it.
Regards, DrDeal
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When I was a kid I had the local drug store telling me I couldn't buy more than two packs a day because they wanted equal distribution among the children. Something communist China might order. Now Topps decides to pull the same shit on me as an adult. Well I call bullshit on that. I don't think you should be too judgmental of those who skirt the rules of collecting set down upon us either by corporate America or the local drug store.
While I don't totally disagree with you, Plan, there is one huge difference between your experience as a child and those that Ducko was referring to who skirt the limit. As a kid, you wanted them because you liked them and wanted to keep them. The people who "cheat" the system with postcards are flipping them immediately. If someone beats the postcard system to buy 20 sets for themselves that they are going to keep for their collection, well, so it goes. If I get shut out, I'm not thrilled with them, but that's the way it goes. If I get shut out and someone is immediately flipping dozens of sets, well, I'm pretty pissed.
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Well said! however, I for one would also add that limits don't work. as someone that collects a lot of wacky's I think the limits hurt true collectors more then the dealers. Example being the Halloween set! if you wanted all the artist you needed 7 sketches but were only allowed to order 5 but some dealers got around the limit and then as a collector I end up having to pay top dollar to get sketches that I should have been able to buy direct from Topps. The bottom line is supply and demand and IMO Topps should stay out of the regulation business. I have missed several releases or had to buy from the secondary market and understand that you win some you loss some but that is on me unlike limits that I have no control over. Whining about it doesn't change anything, so if you have been Pissed off by missing a release do something about it next time like I do( camp out on my computer and get my order in) the other issue with the limit is that if you have a group of let say three collectors that help each other out by one person ordering for everyone and rotating the stay up late and get my order in duty, you are now screwed because we all have to stay up now due to the limit that doesn't work anyway. IMO :]
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When I was a kid I had the local drug store telling me I couldn't buy more than two packs a day because they wanted equal distribution among the children. Something communist China might order. Now Topps decides to pull the same shit on me as an adult. Well I call bullshit on that.
I surely hope your comparison was in jest. Are you honestly comparing a limit on a certain item with something you'd find in a Communist country? :85:
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We are all suspect of the original OLDS because of the scarcity of the colored (30 still haven't shown up). I know Dave said Topps did sort them randomly but there is still some speculation as there always will with people buying large QTY without results. That is the way it's going to be.
They were randomly sorted and will be randomly sorted again. I thought we already went over this earlier.
As for the 30 color that people have not seen. That is people HERE that have not seen them. They are either still in unopened boxes and even more likely in the hands of the hundreds and hundreds of people that bought boxes that are not one of the small amount of forum members we have or wanted to flip it on Ebay. As we saw with the pre-sale the forum people are not the only Wacky collectors out there and there collecting habits may be quite different.
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There are 4000 boxes left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone here (and many more beyond) got some kind of discount AND freebies. The only Topps series that actually offers any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:banghead:
I feel better.
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I agree limits are not necessarily a good thing, but in the context I described it certainly is nothing like communism. No point in getting into extremes. Completely free markets tend to decay into mafias and/or monopolies. imo all systems are broken in one way or another, because they rely on human interaction, and humans are greedy, tribal, and have a hard time not following their reptilian brain. But I digress...
What I don't like about the current system for limited editions -- and I'm game for a different solution than purchase limits (see below) -- is that it basically allows for the following scenario: Someone buys all of the item and then turns around and sells the same with an added premium. Topps doesn't benefit from this premium and neither do collectors. It's greed, plain and simple.
Just to be clear, I'm not whining, and to prove it here's a solution:
A Topps subscription that entitles you to X number of limited edition items automatically. You sign up for it, and you pay a small fee to be a part of it. Make it an annual subscription so you're covered for whatever comes whenever it comes. Topps is guaranteed X purchases (because they know in advance), which is great for them because they can plan distributions accordingly, and true collectors can be assured they are going to be able to buy items they want without having to pay a premium to someone for no good reason. Topps gets a little subscription fee for the privilege (I'd pay it), no one has to manage notifying us of coming events (which is a lot of extra work for them), and no one has to stay up at weird hours to maybe be able to buy them. Then whatever is sold outside the subscriptions is up for grabs. You can buy as much as you want of whatever is left. You don't have to pay for the subscription if you don't want it. If you don't pay for the subscription you roll the dice with everyone else, including Flippin' Freddie and his Magical Markups.
I would buy one of these subscriptions in a heartbeat. I'd love to never worry I might miss out on something again. It'd be brilliant. You could have a basic subscription which purchases one box/set of whatever series comes out, and you could have the ability to reserve up to X boxes/sets in advance as well (here there would need to be a limit or you blow the whole purpose of it). Topps could notify people on the subscriptions of "upcoming titles" and you could change what you automatically buy accordingly.
The way Topps did bio cards in the Halloween set exposed the current dilemma even more. Only one per set, then limiting individual purchases to 5 makes things difficult. But then with people skirting the limit it's even worse because they can sell the bio sets (or cards) for MUCH more for no other reason than taking advantage of things. That sucks. I gave up chasing these from the get-go because it's too much stress and money. Would have been nice for Topps to have included 2 or 3 of the cards in a set rather than going from all to one. Hopefully they will change this in the next run (they seem to be listening to feedback which is fantastic).
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Ducko, your idea sounds pretty good. I'm all for finding a solution that prevents us Wacky diehards from missing out on things. I've already voiced my displeasure with the way the Old School 2 pre-sale went down. But getting back to the Halloween postcards, I absolutely hated that whole experience too. I remember sitting in front of the computer the moment they were supposed to go on sale and hitting the "refresh" button over and over. Meanwhile, I was reading the forum at the same time and people were reporting how they were listed and they just got their 5 sets. Yet, I still wasn't seeing anything and my heart was racing over the fact that I might miss out and have to pay a 300% markup on eBay. Finally I found some with not a heck of a lot of time to spare. But that whole experience sucked. It was not enjoyable at all. It shouldn't have to be like this.
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They were randomly sorted and will be randomly sorted again. I thought we already went over this earlier.
As for the 30 color that people have not seen. That is people HERE that have not seen them. They are either still in unopened boxes and even more likely in the hands of the hundreds and hundreds of people that bought boxes that are not one of the small amount of forum members we have or wanted to flip it on Ebay. As we saw with the pre-sale the forum people are not the only Wacky collectors out there and there collecting habits may be quite different.
We have. I just wanted to see you bang your head against the wall :victory:
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Is the shipping date Christmas week or New Years Eve week or New Years Day week?
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Is the shipping date Christmas week or New Years Eve week or New Years Day week?
:tongue3: I think if it's either New Years Eve or New Years day it will be out that week
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Given the mad shipping rush just before Christmas (and high volume of traffic), I'd just as soon they wait until the week after or the first week of January. Less chance of man-handled packages.
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Given the mad shipping rush just before Christmas (and high volume of traffic), I'd just as soon they wait until the week after or the first week of January. Less chance of man-handled packages.
I agree.
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Given the mad shipping rush just before Christmas (and high volume of traffic), I'd just as soon they wait until the week after or the first week of January. Less chance of man-handled packages.
Good point. I don't want any men handling my package.
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All in all most post here are very nice to read and I like Duck-o's subscription suggestion. I feel that no-one in the past 10 or so posts had made any points on this topic that is unreasonable. Dave had planned this to work out fairly from the get go, compiling a list here of folks interested in obtaining this new series and all were accounted for with a set aside limited amount that was for the pre-sale to us. That estimated amount would of worked out it seems if everyone stayed with-in the limit - AND if this link did not become available to others off of this forum. Not completely sure but, I think I remember someone saying that it was posted on Facebook and somewhere else too about the pre-sale? That would of allowed ANYONE to order from this Pre-sale and not just folks here that Dave obviously wanted to get in on this first. Why else would he have taken the time to accumulate a list and send you the e-mail. If this is public posting of the pre-sale is true, then here's my suggestion for a better pre-sale next time so us Wacky die hards won't miss out on it:
Dave (or someone) could take a e-mail list of folks here who want to be a part of the pre-sale. The e-mail that you give must also have your shipping address and it MUST BE THE SAME E-MAIL THAT YOU MAKE YOUR ACTUAL ORDER PAYMENT FROM. That way a limit could actually work because we pretty much know who is who in here and could double check it with the shipping address. And if anyone else that is not on that list tries to order, it will be denied. Not that I'm for limits, but YES limits on a 1 time offer Pre-Sale, after that, buy as much as you want during the regular sale. This way no one else on the outside could participate because someone posted the info elsewhere like Facebook letting other folks who don't even collect Wackys get in before us.
I think everyone idea's here are important to finding a better way so no one misses out on future Pre-Sales.
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Given the mad shipping rush just before Christmas (and high volume of traffic), I'd just as soon they wait until the week after or the first week of January. Less chance of man-handled packages.
Reasonable - but I'd rather have these go out as soon as they're ready.
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Good point. I don't want any men handling my package.
Plan, all I can say is thanks for the laugh.
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I admit at first I had a small panic that, when the pre-orders were closed, that there weren't going to be enough
boxes afterwards available, but soon learned that wasn't the case and I'm (still) happily awaiting the release.
There's no way to please everyone, Dave. You've went far above and beyond trying to accomodate us
regulars here on the forum, and it's greatly appreciated.
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Plan, all I can say is thanks for the laugh.
!Yo tambien! Gracias por la risa, Plan de Nueve
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Just read the Non-Sport Update issue with the Old School article. I wonder if the writer ever even looked at OLDS1? He actually asked for a Koogle Wacky to be made. Um, yeah, already done. Also, I didn't do every gag for the series. Jay, Mark and Fred worked on some stuff. And there were no roughs rejected over copyright infringement. Any rejects or gag changes happened due more to Topps being a bit too safe on some subjects. Sue Mee was chosen as the series 2 promo because we all liked it. Nothing more. Ah well. Some mistakes but an overall decent article. Pics look a bit saturated. Would like to see them toned down for the actual stickers. I will definitely be checking up on that process.
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Just read the Non-Sport Update issue with the Old School article. I wonder if the writer ever even looked at OLDS1? He actually asked for a Koogle Wacky to be made. Um, yeah, already done. Also, I didn't do every gag for the series. Jay, Mark and Fred worked on some stuff. And there were no roughs rejected over copyright infringement. Any rejects or gag changes happened due more to Topps being a bit too safe on some subjects. Sue Mee was chosen as the series 2 promo because we all liked it. Nothing more. Ah well. Some mistakes but an overall decent article. Pics look a bit saturated. Would like to see them toned down for the actual stickers. I will definitely be checking up on that process.
It sounds like who ever at Topps was in charge of approving the article should have had you glance it over first for inaccuracies before it was published.
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It sounds like who ever at Topps was in charge of approving the article should have had you glance it over first for inaccuracies before it was published.
Do they even allow Topps to read the articles before publishing?
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Do they even allow Topps to read the articles before publishing?
No, Mike did not see the article either.
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I'm sure the Sue Mee reference was just his attempt at making a joke. That's how I saw it anyway.
For some reason it's hard for magazine writers to get their facts straight. I've dealt with it numerous times. Even word for word interviews get re-interpreted.
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I'm sure the Sue Mee reference was just his attempt at making a joke. That's how I saw it anyway.
For some reason it's hard for magazine writers to get their facts straight. I've dealt with it numerous times. Even word for word interviews get re-interpreted.
I've had the same experience with newspaper interviews. No matter how professional, supportive and nice a reporter is, there are always errors. And rarely do you ever get a chance to preview an article.
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I'm sure the Sue Mee reference was just his attempt at making a joke. That's how I saw it anyway.
For some reason it's hard for magazine writers to get their facts straight. I've dealt with it numerous times. Even word for word interviews get re-interpreted.
This is so true. It sucks and is all too common, but we shouldn't forget that there are still professional journalists out there - even if they appear to be a dying (and mostly unwanted) breed. I've experienced both kinds in my time.
Re-interpretations, or mis-quotes are annoying, wherever they occur - and it's never fun when folks don't get their facts straight, when we're the subject of a piece.
I recently saw this wonderful quote -- "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," --Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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While I don't totally disagree with you, Plan, there is one huge difference between your experience as a child and those that Ducko was referring to who skirt the limit. As a kid, you wanted them because you liked them and wanted to keep them. The people who "cheat" the system with postcards are flipping them immediately. If someone beats the postcard system to buy 20 sets for themselves that they are going to keep for their collection, well, so it goes. If I get shut out, I'm not thrilled with them, but that's the way it goes. If I get shut out and someone is immediately flipping dozens of sets, well, I'm pretty pissed.
While I don't totally disagree with you, Plan, there is one huge difference between your experience as a child and those that Ducko was referring to who skirt the limit. As a kid, you wanted them because you liked them and wanted to keep them. The people who "cheat" the system with postcards are flipping them immediately. If someone beats the postcard system to buy 20 sets for themselves that they are going to keep for their collection, well, so it goes. If I get shut out, I'm not thrilled with them, but that's the way it goes. If I get shut out and someone is immediately flipping dozens of sets, well, I'm pretty pissed.
Well said. I don't think anyone complaining (about the direction the hobby is taking) is concerned about having to spend $5 more a box plus shipping when the OLDS2 series becomes generally available. No doubt Dave has gone out of his way to help everyone here on a presale of something that will still be available anyway. I think they are fed up (me included) with people buying exhorbitant amounts of a limited product with the sole intention of flipping stuff on ebay.
They have also (imho) become frustrated (me included) with the seemingly ever-increasing cards (nevermind the other stuff) that are near impossible to get unless you have money to burn or time and money to burn flying all over the country to attend shows.
For example, I would love to have just one gold-bordered Wackomercial from ANS7. I like to have the base set plus one copy of each variant (pink, silver, etc) in my keeper collection. 1:701 chance of a gold wackomercial?! Forget it! The only reason I am able to have one gold FB1 and one gold FB2 sticker in my keeper collection is the kindness and generosity of a forum member here.
And all the cards that are available only at shows; again, you have to know someone who is attending and is willing to give (or at least gain only a minimal profit) something they got for free rather than flipping it on ebay for incredible profits to the people who have money to burn.
When we were kids there was a very reasonable chance of collecting everything available at a very reasonable price. Rarities were created outside of Topps' control (C&D). Now, between 2 bucks a pack, manufactured rarities, hoarders and ebay flippers, I don't blame anyone who has become so frustrated to the point of leaving the hobby.
I love Ducko's suggestion of a subscription list that allows avid collectors (not profiteers) to be guaranteed at least one of everything that is released.
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Bumped this up because this is the non-spoiler OLDS2 thread.
I will have concrete news on the shipping tomorrow. I was pretty pissed that I had not heard anything the past 5 days. This packing company is a bunch of a-holes. I think it was just shipped TODAY but I still don't have a final answer on that. Looks like some serious spite issues on their part.
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Bumped this up because this is the non-spoiler OLDS2 thread.
I will have concrete news on the shipping tomorrow. I was pretty pissed that I had not heard anything the past 5 days. This packing company is a bunch of a-holes. I think it was just shipped TODAY but I still don't have a final answer on that. Looks like some serious spite issues on their part.
Thanks for the updates (both now and tomorrow's), Dave. I'm curious; is this the same packing company used for OLDS 1? Did you have any issues with them then?
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Thanks for the updates (both now and tomorrow's), Dave. I'm curious; is this the same packing company used for OLDS 1? Did you have any issues with them then?
Dave wrote about this on the other "spoiler" thread. Hold on, I'll copy and paste it here for ya...
Here ya go:
The packer is peeved because they had to house the pallets for months because the sketch cards were not done and had to reschedule the packing date a few times when the sketches were still not finished. However, they fined Topps for that so to then hold it up AFTER they got the sketches a few weeks ago seems like spite to me. They should have been sent out on the truck two Friday's ago.
Topps is going to pack them out themselves next series as they have condensed all their operations including these smaller projects. At that point they can only fight with themselves.
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Keep your fingers crossed...
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Keep your fingers crossed...
Fingers, toes, legs, eyes, ears.... 8)
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Bumped this up because this is the non-spoiler OLDS2 thread.
I will have concrete news on the shipping tomorrow. I was pretty pissed that I had not heard anything the past 5 days. This packing company is a bunch of a-holes. I think it was just shipped TODAY but I still don't have a final answer on that. Looks like some serious spite issues on their part.
If it's a recognized Packing company, I'd make a Wacky for a future gag on OS3 :] :great:
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If it's a recognized Packing company, I'd make a Wacky for a future gag on OS3 :] :great:
That would make an interesting Bonus Card ! :P
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I just received shipping notification from Topps, My Old school 2 boxes have been mailed :)
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I just received shipping notification from Topps, My Old school 2 boxes have been mailed :)
Ditto for mine. Ho...friggin...rah. :great:
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ORDER RIGHT NOW OR MISS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO
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Will there be OS3 pre-orders later this year?
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Will there be OS3 pre-orders later this year?
Can't we enjoy series 2 first?
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Can't we enjoy series 2 first?
Here here! What's the rush with today's society for "the next thing" the moment the current thing ships? I don't get it. Enjoy the here and now. Life is too short to spend it constantly in waiting mode.
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Here here! What's the rush with today's society for "the next thing" the moment the current thing ships? I don't get it. Enjoy the here and now. Life is too short to spend it constantly in waiting mode.
I blame Dave. from today's mass email:
"Hope everyone enjoys the series! I'm gearing up to start OLDS3 in May after I complete my ANS8 work."
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This is not a spoiler but I wanted to let people know if they aren't looking in the spoiler section:
I'm a bit peeved with the binder. It's just that - a binder. No pages and no wrapper.
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This is not a spoiler but I wanted to let people know if they aren't looking in the spoiler section:
I'm a bit peeved with the binder. It's just that - a binder. No pages and no wrapper.
Brad,
Did you get the ' 2 Concept cards' in your boxes?? Are you happy about OLDS2? or disappointed??
just don't spoil it...
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Brad,
Did you get the ' 2 Concept cards' in your boxes?? Are you happy about OLDS2? or disappointed??
just don't spoil it...
I won't spoil anything. I did get the concept cards and if you want to see them I put them up on ebay.
This set is absolutely amazing. It's light years ahead of OLDS1, in my opinion. I think I love each one. The art is just amazing. I think the wait was now worth it. This series might even rival any one of the OS. It's that good. Perfect balance. Dave really out did himself on this one. Also the tan backs are fantastic. You will see a lot of bumped corner cards in the wild.
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Brad,
Did you get the ' 2 Concept cards' in your boxes?? Are you happy about OLDS2? or disappointed??
just don't spoil it...
I don't even remember a mention of concept cards in the pre-release info. I hope I haven't been spoiled.
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I don't even remember a mention of concept cards in the pre-release info. I hope I haven't been spoiled.
Jason,
I am surprised :o :o as attention to detail and writing as you are...can't believe you missed that...and 'yes' I do read your posts with the same attention...I guess I am too detailed...It was most certainly mentioned in the pre-sale email sent by Dave...just like the 'wrapper' was for the binder that WE WON'T BE GETTING !!! >:D >:D >:D
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I won't spoil anything. I did get the concept cards and if you want to see them I put them up on ebay.
This set is absolutely amazing. It's light years ahead of OLDS1, in my opinion. I think I love each one. The art is just amazing. I think the wait was now worth it. This series might even rival any one of the OS. It's that good. Perfect balance. Dave really out did himself on this one. Also the tan backs are fantastic. You will see a lot of bumped corner cards in the wild.
DUDE,
THX that's Awesome!! Can't wait...someday I will get my order...maybe... it will be worth MY wait and I will get a COLORED Sketch... :] :]..ahhhh the TAN BACKS...
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Will there be OS3 pre-orders later this year?
Fair question. The OS were coming out practically every two months back in the 70's. I can look at 33 new stickers and be satisfied all in the same week and want more the next. So keep 'em coming! Bring on Old School 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.....
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...just like the 'wrapper' was for the binder that WE WON'T BE GETTING !!! >:D >:D >:D
I do hope they provide the wax wrappers with the binders - that was what made them so cool, in my opinion, and was my main motivation for wanting to get the series 2 binder. Of course, I am getting one for free, with my five box order. Let's hope they work something out, and still give a wrapper with each binder.
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I do hope they provide the wax wrappers with the binders - that was what made them so cool, in my opinion, and was my main motivation for wanting to get the series 2 binder. Of course, I am getting one for free, with my five box order. Let's hope they work something out, and still give a wrapper with each binder.
I don't understand. The description on Topps site says it includes pages and a wrapper:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-708/Wacky-Packages-Official-Collectors/Detail (http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-708/Wacky-Packages-Official-Collectors/Detail)
[spoiler=Spoiler?]Wacky Packages Official Collectors Binder Old School 2
SKU: WPOS-CK2
$16.95
Includes:
• Official Deluxe-Edition Collectors Binder
• Exclusive Wacky Packages Old School Commemorative Wax Pack Wrapper
• Bonus Ultra-Pro 10 9-Pocket Card Pages[/spoiler]
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I hate hearing that the binders do not have the wax wrapper. Had I known that I would not have pre-ordered 5 boxes. I would have gone for 3 and bought a binder separately. I feel kinda cheated by Topps on this.
So I assume that if I want a wrapper, I now have to go and buy a whole new binder from Topps (leaving me with a binder that I don't need). That sucks! Now I feel extra cheated.
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I don't understand. The description on Topps site says it includes pages and a wrapper:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-708/Wacky-Packages-Official-Collectors/Detail (http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-708/Wacky-Packages-Official-Collectors/Detail)
[spoiler=Spoiler?]Wacky Packages Official Collectors Binder Old School 2
SKU: WPOS-CK2
$16.95
Includes:
• Official Deluxe-Edition Collectors Binder
• Exclusive Wacky Packages Old School Commemorative Wax Pack Wrapper
• Bonus Ultra-Pro 10 9-Pocket Card Pages[/spoiler]
Yea..the one you recieve Free for the pre-sale is JUST THE BINDER..vs. the Shoptopps one you pay for has the Wrapper and Sleeve folders...Topps kinda of screwed us into thinking we would get the Wrapper and ultra-pro pockets with our Free binders...instead just the Binder!!The WAX WRAPPER is definitely the draw....oh well...
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I hate hearing that the binders do not have the wax wrapper. Had I known that I would not have pre-ordered 5 boxes. I would have gone for 3 and bought a binder separately. I feel kinda cheated by Topps on this.
So I assume that if I want a wrapper, I now have to go and buy a whole new binder from Topps (leaving me with a binder that I don't need). That sucks! Now I feel extra cheated.
I can't be certain that I would have ordered five boxes, had I known that we'd be getting an empty binder. Frankly, decorated binders really aren't my thing - and I only wanted this one for the contents.
I endeavor to err on the side of giving the benefit of the doubt, and it remains to be seen if this was intentional, or is some production/packaging gaffe that will be fixed. I think it's safe to say that everyone who ordered five boxes during the pre-order was under the clear impression that we'd be getting the same binder, and contents, that would be going on sale in the Topps store later on. I hope that we still are, because it would be pretty crappy if it turned out that the empty binder is our actual freebie - because we were never told that's what it was going to be.
Until Dave returns with answers on this from Mike - the jury should still be out.
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I hate hearing that the binders do not have the wax wrapper. Had I known that I would not have pre-ordered 5 boxes. I would have gone for 3 and bought
a binder separately. I feel kinda cheated by Topps on this.
So I assume that if I want a wrapper, I now have to go and buy a whole new binder from Topps (leaving me with a binder that I don't need). That sucks! Now I feel extra cheated.
I did not get my order, but I too ordered 5 boxes to get the binder and it's contents. However, let us not blame Dave. I would have bought 3 boxes and paid for the binder and saved money as well.
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Hi Guys! I'm new here but some of you may know the name.
BIG NEWS!!! I have a (cut and paste) from the pre-sale. are you ready... 2 BIG MESS UPS!!!
>>>Wacky Packages Old School 2 Stickers Box PRE-ORDER
SKU: WPOS2-PRE
$44.95
SPECIAL PRE-ORDER PRICE (Ships December / January)
*Pre-Order available for 3 days only: November 24, 25 & 26!
33 All New parody stickers spoofing classic 70's products plus 9 puzzle checklists to collect!
24 Packs per box, 3 Stickers and 1 Puzzle checklist per pack.
In every box you also get: 3 Giant 5" x 7" Pop Art stickers, 3 Jay Lynch or Bill Griffith Artist Concept Cards, Wacky Packages Old School 2 poster, Wacky Artist Sketch Card, & Series 3 mini die-cut card.
ShopTopps.com Exclusive - not available in stores!
BONUS: Purchase 5 boxes and receive a FREE Old School 2 Collectors Binder and Promo Wax Wrapper!
Use Promo Code: WACKY2 for Free Shipping
*Limited supp
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I'd like to speculate, for the sake of consideration:
With Old School series 1, the binders and wax wrappers came out a few weeks after the series, right? Taking the pre-sale text at its' letter, it says binder and wax wrapper. So, perhaps to save money on shipping, binders were shipped with the boxes, and the wax wrapper will come later, when they're ready?
Just a thought...
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper. I guess it was not ready yet. The pages however are no longer offered by Topps so you will not get the pages. They are going to update the site. This is throughout Topps.
Sorry, but at least the wrapper is straightened out which I think is the more important item. Also, remember, it says *Subject to change on the pre-sale ad so unfortunately, that was a change. One of the problems with selling something 5 months ahead of time.
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper.
Nice!!
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper. I guess it was not ready yet. The pages however are no longer offered by Topps so you will not get the pages. They are going to update the site. This is throughout Topps.
Sorry, but at least the wrapper is straightened out which I think is the more important item. Also, remember, it says *Subject to change on the pre-sale ad so unfortunately, that was a change. One of the problems with selling something 5 months ahead of time.
Thanks Dave! I'm glad to hear that the wax wrappers will be coming, I liked that with the first binder.
My orders are still in the 'shipping label' stage, so I don't know whether they'll get here tomorrow. Did anyone here have signature confirmation on their orders? I'm dreading coming home from work to find a sticker on my door.
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My orders are still in the 'shipping label' stage, so I don't know whether they'll get here tomorrow. Did anyone here have signature confirmation on their orders? I'm dreading coming home from work to find a sticker on my door.
Yeah, I got my shipping notification at 10:48am this morning, and now it's 7:15pm, and I'm still stuck at the shipping label stage, too. It's a bit embarrassing to admit, but I find myself going back to the UPS tracking site and trying, every 10 minutes or so. Anticipation.
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper. I guess it was not ready yet. The pages however are no longer offered by Topps so you will not get the pages. They are going to update the site. This is throughout Topps.
Sorry, but at least the wrapper is straightened out which I think is the more important item. Also, remember, it says *Subject to change on the pre-sale ad so unfortunately, that was a change. One of the problems with selling something 5 months ahead of time.
That's cool........the wrappers are way more important than a handful of sleeves anyway.
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Yeah, I got my shipping notification at 10:48am this morning, and now it's 7:15pm, and I'm still stuck at the shipping label stage, too. It's a bit embarrassing to admit, but I find myself going back to the UPS tracking site and trying, every 10 minutes or so. Anticipation.
I left the tab open, and keep checking :^)
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Yeah, I got my shipping notification at 10:48am this morning, and now it's 7:15pm, and I'm still stuck at the shipping label stage, too. It's a bit embarrassing to admit, but I find myself going back to the UPS tracking site and trying, every 10 minutes or so. Anticipation.
I got my notification earlier today as well, but it just says the label been created, so I don't know when I'll get them yet. They usually come pretty fast to me though. I'll probably see mine Thursday.
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I did not get my order, but I too ordered 5 boxes to get the binder and it's contents. However, let us not blame Dave. I would have bought 3 boxes and paid for the binder and saved money as well.
Me too.
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper. I guess it was not ready yet. The pages however are no longer offered by Topps so you will not get the pages. They are going to update the site. This is throughout Topps.
Sorry, but at least the wrapper is straightened out which I think is the more important item. Also, remember, it says *Subject to change on the pre-sale ad so unfortunately, that was a change. One of the problems with selling something 5 months ahead of time.
Thanks for clearing that up David. The wrapper and binder were what I believe most people wanted. You can buy sheets at pretty much any card store, wal mart and target.
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Just got an email from Mike. Everyone will get their wrapper. I guess it was not ready yet. The pages however are no longer offered by Topps so you will not get the pages. They are going to update the site. This is throughout Topps.
Sorry, but at least the wrapper is straightened out which I think is the more important item. Also, remember, it says *Subject to change on the pre-sale ad so unfortunately, that was a change. One of the problems with selling something 5 months ahead of time.
Thx Dave..that's great...the wrapper is awesome...hopefully it will come with the binder for those of us who received shipping notification, yet nothing has shipped yet...its hard not to want to check out the spoiler thread... :] :]
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Thx Dave..that's great...the wrapper is awesome...hopefully it will come with the binder for those of us who received shipping notification, yet nothing has shipped yet...its hard not to want to check out the spoiler thread... :] :]
The spoiler thread hasn't been spoiled too bad. Still no posting of cards.. I could do that but I felt I should wait a couple days first. UPS updates strangely if it's ground shipping
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There's a major spoiler listed on ebay now. If you do any searches add -school (minus school) to your search.
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Thx Dave..that's great...the wrapper is awesome...hopefully it will come with the binder for those of us who received shipping notification, yet nothing has shipped yet...its hard not to want to check out the spoiler thread... :] :]
It's quite possible they didn't send the wrappers with the binders because they don't have any sleeves to put it in inside the binder to protect it.
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Great job on all the updates and rumor control Dave. I'm sure your happy to put all this to bed now and move on to solving more pressing issues like when ANS 8 will be coming out and why it's been delayed yet again :] :]
Waiting for the magic Brown truck to circle the camp :great:
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I just got details on my UPS shipping info that mine will arrive by end-of-day tomorrow (Thursday). I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.
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I just got details on my UPS shipping info that mine will arrive by end-of-day tomorrow (Thursday). I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.
At 6:37 AM, my Wackys arrived at the UPS depot 5 miles away from me. Scheduled delivery by end of day!! ;D
It's gonna be a LONG day at work.......
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Mine are sitting less than 5 miles away,I should just go get the boxes
They leave Topps at 5 pm monday and arrive in Rockdale,IL at 5;30 am wednesday morning
BROWN # ONE BROWN NUMBER ONE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!
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At 6:37 AM, my Wackys arrived at the UPS depot 5 miles away from me. Scheduled delivery by end of day!! ;D
It's gonna be a LONG day at work.......
Join the crowd.
I could throw a rock and hit the depot yet I won't see a package until 5, 6 or maybe even 7pm.
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Join the crowd.
I could throw a rock and hit the depot yet I won't see a package until 5, 6 or maybe even 7pm.
Same here... according to the UPS site, it went out for delivery from our local UPS station at 7:32 am this morning but the UPS delivery to our house is usually between 5pm and 6pm. Hopefully they will be on
the front porch when I arrive home from work. A looooooong day at work.
(http://s4.postimage.org/33z93c78k/Super_Stock_4179_40236.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/33z93c78k/)
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Remember - signature is required. I don't like this either.
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About 61 minutes or less to go,should I open box #1 box #2 box #3 box#4 box #5 box #6 or box #7
The possibilities are mystifying
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Remember - signature is required. I don't like this either.
Really?, so much for making a beer run. That's the safest way to do it though. You can imagine dishonest buyers saying they never got them.
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Remember - signature is required. I don't like this either.
I'm sliding out the side door at 3:30PM in hopes of beating the UPS man to my house. ;)
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About 61 minutes or less to go,should I open box #1 box #2 box #3 box#4 box #5 box #6 or box #7
The possibilities are mystifying
Or... you can take what's behind curtain #3!!!!
(http://s1.postimage.org/1s2d3k0sk/983b8560d04420c28ee8b0c0228468d2.png) (http://postimage.org/image/1s2d3k0sk/)
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I'm sliding out the side door at 3:30PM in hopes of beating the UPS man to my house. ;)
Good idea! I think I have a little issue I need the dentist to take a quick look at.
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Remember - signature is required. I don't like this either.
I didn't recall having to sign when the OLDS1 came to my house. Perhaps signature is required only if it is a large order? I only have two boxes coming so I don't expect I should have to sign for it. Otherwise I'll have to wait until Friday (sign the Thursday left slip) - unless I leave a note tomorrow. I think I will do that.
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Same here... according to the UPS site, it went out for delivery from our local UPS station at 7:32 am this morning but the UPS delivery to our house is usually between 5pm and 6pm. Hopefully they will be on
the front porch when I arrive home from work. A looooooong day at work.
(http://s4.postimage.org/33z93c78k/Super_Stock_4179_40236.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/33z93c78k/)
same for me as well - went out for delivery @ 6:59AM..hopefully today before 6pm...last year the UPS guy walked on my newly sealcoated driveway with his boot...what a moron..I had flags and ropes too...I should charge them for that...but I didn't have a camera...to prove it..
'By end of day' - sounds like the cable guy lingo....
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The tan backs are pretty flimsy as noted already. I have opened 2 boxes and have a few with bumped corners and a few with bend or creases in the middle. This might be a tough NM set to get.
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The tan backs are pretty flimsy as noted already. I have opened 2 boxes and have a few with bumped corners and a few with bend or creases in the middle. This might be a tough NM set to get.
Sounds good to me!
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I will post my top 3 parodies shortly,I will call them #1 #2 and #3
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same for me as well - went out for delivery @ 6:59AM..hopefully today before 6pm...last year the UPS guy walked on my newly sealcoated driveway with his boot...what a moron..I had flags and ropes too...I should charge them for that...but I didn't have a camera...to prove it..
'By end of day' - sounds like the cable guy lingo....
Hmmmm, I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Most of us get UPS delivery after 4:00pm. What do they do
the rest of the gall-blasted day?!?!? Seriously though, do they run their business routes first then hit residential areas? I guess it depends on a lot of things. We live about 15 miles south of Terre Haute out in the boonies so I guess we are just the end of the day deliveries. It occurs to me the only person reporting they received pre-4pm delivery was Bum Chex (audible gasp from the crowd as spotlight turns on him). DA-DUN-DUN!
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The tan backs are pretty flimsy as noted already. I have opened 2 boxes and have a few with bumped corners and a few with bend or creases in the middle. This might be a tough NM set to get.
Is it wrong of me to think that's actually kind of cool?
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Is it wrong of me to think that's actually kind of cool?
It will give a whole new perspective on getting a NM set and prices will rise because of it...it might also increase trading and selling of one-off stickers that have these problems...just like OS...I think its cool..of course NOT having received any boxes yet..."TRUE OLD SCHOOL" :great:issues...don't like the creases in the middle though??? might lend itself to a "Topps return / receive" new policy...hopefully the Sketch cards aren't BENT!!(like the cigarettes :P :P)
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Hmmmm, I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Most of us get UPS delivery after 4:00pm. What do they do
the rest of the gall-blasted day?!?!? Seriously though, do they run their business routes first then hit residential areas? I guess it depends on a lot of things. We live about 15 miles south of Terre Haute out in the boonies so I guess we are just the end of the day deliveries. It occurs to me the only person reporting they received pre-4pm delivery was Bum Chex (audible gasp from the crowd as spotlight turns on him). DA-DUN-DUN!
MINE ARRIVED AT 11:00,HOWEVER IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN 10:00
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MINE ARRIVED AT 11:00,HOWEVER IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN 10:00
Did you have to sign for your package?
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Did you have to sign for your package?
NO,HOWEVER MY NEIGHBOR WAS OUTSIDE WHEN UPS GUY ARRIVED,THEY BOTH CAME UPSTAIRS I HAD MY DOOR OPEN AND PAULETTE CALLED OUT MY NAME.
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Unreal between opening 24 packs,making a overall number 1 selection,dealing with garbage and getting the package ready to go to Anders and Hayden exactly 2 hours have passed!!!
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WHERE CAN I GET MAILING BOXES THAT ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN THE 24 PACK OLDS BOXES?
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Unreal between opening 24 packs,making a overall number 1 selection,dealing with garbage and getting the package ready to go to Anders and Hayden exactly 2 hours have passed!!!
BTW I am not convinced Hayden is an actual living person
He may be some kind of biological computer intelligence that has transcended consciousness, who has a strange attraction to funny pictures.
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WHERE CAN I GET MAILING BOXES THAT ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGER THAN THE 24 PACK OLDS BOXES?
If you didn't already know, you can get boxes at www.usps.com for FREE and they even deliver them to you. Just make sure you don't order a bunch of boxes with the intention of using them for anything other than shipping purposes.
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If you didn't already know, you can get boxes at www.usps.com for FREE and they even deliver them to you. Just make sure you don't order a bunch of boxes with the intention of using them for anything other than shipping purposes.
OKAY...........THANK YOU
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Just make sure you don't order a bunch of boxes with the intention of using them for anything other than shipping purposes.
I must ask why??
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If you didn't already know, you can get boxes at www.usps.com for FREE and they even deliver them to you. Just make sure you don't order a bunch of boxes with the intention of using them for anything other than shipping purposes.
I WON'T TELL IF YOU DON'T
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I must ask why??
I used to order Priority Mail boxes and then assemble them inside-out so I could mail them with regular first-class postage. Now the post office prints "priority mail" on the inside of the boxes so you can no longer do that.
They do make great boxes for wrapping Christmas presents in!
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I used to order Priority Mail boxes and then assemble them inside-out so I could mail them with regular first-class postage. Now the post office prints "priority mail" on the inside of the boxes so you can no longer do that.
They do make great boxes for wrapping Christmas presents in!
thanks - b/c i might have tried that...
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MINE ARRIVED AT 11:00,HOWEVER IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN 10:00
Daylight Savings Time strikes again.
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Is it wrong of me to think that's actually kind of cool?
Got my single (allowed) preorder box today. Ya know, the one box limit allowed from missing the Pre-Sale. Still I appreciate Dave's time to allow that to happen. Already ordered more on the Topps site with the Binder. I wonder, will the Binder from the Topps site come with the Wrapper too or was that just an Exclusive Pre-Order deal? The binder picture is funny on the Topps site, it looks like the binder is priced at $2. by looking at the top right corner. Guess that just means Series 2.
The cards seem to be a little lighter weighted than the previous Olds1. The set is great, nice job Dave! Great mix and balance as stated already. No problems assembling a NM/Mint set, but I did notice that some of the cards seemed to be pre-dented in various locations. Can't figure out how that happened...? What is strange is that I did not get a full puzzle! 24 Cards and no BM. Will have to do some trading with the other doubles.
Awesome Sketch by Brent Engstrom, nice Artist Concept Cards, very cool & fun Olds2 poster inside and the Postcard sized Cards Rock!!
Worth the wait, very nice Old School Two set.
I know it's the non-spoiler thread, I couldn't spoil anyway knowing that others haven't received their boxes yet... I can tell you this, more threads will need to be born for this series...
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Playbug, this weekend I will setup a vote thread for OLDS2. We can also do a thread on the actual products.
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Playbug, this weekend I will setup a vote thread for OLDS2. We can also do a thread on the actual products.
Awesome !!! :great: :great: :great:
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but I did notice that some of the cards seemed to be pre-dented in various locations. Can't figure out how that happened...?
The dents in certain spots on the stickers (tending to be in the same spot on many of the same title) is caused by mishandling of the paper when it is in the form of full sheets. Take an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper and hold it straight out by one corner and jiggle it a little bit and watch the crinks appear as the paper tries to collapse. This is basically what is happening to the stickers when they are still full sheets. I've never seen a wacky series as bad with these marks as this series is. Thin paper and improper handling equals much damage.
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The dents in certain spots on the stickers (tending to be in the same spot on many of the same title) is caused by mishandling of the paper when it is in the form of full sheets. Take an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper and hold it straight out by one corner and jiggle it a little bit and watch the crinks appear as the paper tries to collapse. This is basically what is happening to the stickers when they are still full sheets. I've never seen a wacky series as bad with these marks as this series is. Thin paper and improper handling equals much damage.
1. It makes it more nostalgic.
2. Makes it harder to put together a full NM set.
3. At least no oxidized borders.
4. Did I mention it makes it harder to put together a NM set? I have opened 4 boxes and have only put together 5 sets so far. I have a bunch that aren't worthy.
5. They are cool!
6. Now I wonder how many of the OS tan backs we get were actually bent out of the packs?
7. Migrant workers are cheap labor.
8. Dave still did a fantastic job on the art!
9. Great concepts all around. Better than OLDS1!
10. Who the hell put Chip in charge of printing!
I actually should have done those in reverse. It's kinda my Letterman top 10. I'm sure others can do much better.
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Playbug, this weekend I will setup a vote thread for OLDS2. We can also do a thread on the actual products.
I think it's time for a vote thread! We could discuss our favorites there. That would be a good thread to also put the actual products onto as well and possibly the entire series checklist of Olds 2 stuff ?
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Keeping non-spoilers here...
When I was going through my stickers, I didn't notice any that were damaged or had really soft corners. The stock is a little flimsy, so you do have to be careful.
As with OLDS1, I got two complete sticker sets. Unlike OLDS1, I got two complete puzzles this time... as I recall, I was a couple piece short of two puzzles in the OLDS1 box I bought.
The extras included are great.
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Loren, I agree. Seeing how many forum folks here ordered (I read the thread after placing my order), I am not surprised things went quickly. Remember too there are many folks on Dave's email list. Any number of folks ordering upwards of 100 to 200 boxes apiece would very easily suck up the supply of pre-order boxes.
I found recently that it isn't only WP Forum Members getting in on the presales. I found all of Dave's Pre-Order emails copied and pasted in a nonsport chat forum informing the masses- links, codes, etc.....apparently adding to the pre-order supply suck up.
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I found recently that it isn't only WP Forum Members getting in on the presales. I found all of Dave's Pre-Order emails copied and pasted in a nonsport chat forum informing the masses- links, codes, etc.....apparently adding to the pre-order supply suck up.
:sign0065:
Interesting. I can't really control what one of the 250+ people do with the info once I email it to them other than ask they don't post it somewhere else but I doubt a non-sport forum added too many other people to the mix. Topps also sent out a mailing notice to other customers which is what
I think added put it over the top so fast.
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Interesting. I can't really control what one of the 250+ people do with the info once I email it to them other than ask they don't post it somewhere else but I doubt a non-sport forum added too many other people to the mix. Topps also sent out a mailing notice to other customers which is what
I think added put it over the top so fast.
Aside from the message and link from you for the midnight madness, I also got an email from Topps, but that one came after 3am - not sure how many boxes were left at that point.
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I found recently that it isn't only WP Forum Members getting in on the presales. I found all of Dave's Pre-Order emails copied and pasted in a nonsport chat forum informing the masses- links, codes, etc.....apparently adding to the pre-order supply suck up.
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Tell us under what name the person posted other boards.
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Tell us under what name the person posted other boards.
I don't feel it's necessary to out an individual. I just wanted to make mention that the presales are not exclusive to us only. The info wasn't hard to find....I wasn't even looking for it.
Thanks again Dave for giving those of us who missed the original presale a second chance!
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I don't feel it's necessary to out an individual. I just wanted to make mention that the presales are not exclusive to us only. The info wasn't hard to find....
MAKE IT HARD TO FIND!
maybe its not necessary to out an individual. But i am a COLLECTOR who has to pay TOP dollar to People who are only out for PROFIT!!! I have been collecting for 37 years. I am new here. I didnt get ANY postcard sets at cost. BUT DEALERS DID! only to charge up to 10X COST.
If anybody could curb this in any manor, THEY SHOULD!
You want to know what i think? (maybe not) but here goes... i think Topps should sell ALL of this on E-Bay, or other auction sites. why? SO THEY, and THEY alone should PROFIT from First, Secondary OR any Market. NOT LEECHES...(in turn pay more for ARTISTS!)
I do not dislike anyone who likes WACKYS. We are a small group. We should huddle when it comes to COLLECTING.
ANS is for new collectors...ect. OS is for Soul collectors!! as is anything limited from topps.
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I stumbled onto the Pre-sales. They were not advertised on ShopTopps. So Where does ANYONE get this information FIRST-HAND???
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I don't feel it's necessary to out an individual. I just wanted to make mention that the presales are not exclusive to us only. The info wasn't hard to find....I wasn't even looking for it.
Thanks again Dave for giving those of us who missed the original presale a second chance!
Shaming people is a great motivator.
The more someone is protected, the more they will continue doing what they are doing. Sometimes people need to be shamed into doing the right thing.
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I stumbled onto the Pre-sales. They were not advertised on ShopTopps. So Where does ANYONE get this information FIRST-HAND???
You can PM your e-mail address to Slam Jim(Dave Gross) on this very forum. He sends out early notification concerning pre-sales and the like. Neil Camera(the artist primarily responsible for the postcard series) also uses this e-mail list to make notification of upcoming releases.