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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: JailOJohn on May 16, 2023, 10:59:42 AM
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So….yet another new e-bay trick…not sure when it started, but recently. If you want to make a seller an offer e-bay will not make the offer until you list a form of payment. Then instead of getting an e-mail that the seller has accepted, and then being asked to pay…if the seller accepts your offer, e-bay automatically pays the seller. Not sure what the difference is, except it is e-bay forcing more rules down your throat if you are a buyer…
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So….yet another new e-bay trick…not sure when it started, but recently. If you want to make a seller an offer e-bay will not make the offer until you list a form of payment. Then instead of getting an e-mail that the seller has accepted, and then being asked to pay…if the seller accepts your offer, e-bay automatically pays the seller. Not sure what the difference is, except it is e-bay forcing more rules down your throat if you are a buyer…
That is strange, since the analogous thing would be to force you to enter payment information before bidding on an auction. Why enter payment information before you know whether the offer will be accepted?
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This article discusses what you are referring to, but it is from Fall, 2021. Strange that it is only happening now. Beta test?
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2021/11/1635971952.html
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This started for me over a year ago, but strangely, it stopped a few months ago. The last few offers I've made did not require payment info.
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This is the FIRST time it has happened to me…..
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Guys…let’s say you want to pay with PayPal…you’re telling me you have to go through the entire payment process before the offer is accepted? If that’s the case, I’m done making offers.
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Guys…let’s say you want to pay with PayPal…you’re telling me you have to go through the entire payment process before the offer is accepted? If that’s the case, I’m done making offers.
I just made an offer on a card and I did not have to through that process.
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I just made an offer on a card and I did not have to through that process.
It sounds like beta testing is going on…
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That happened to me about a week and a half back - in my case i did win the auction -
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I haven't made any offers on things lately, but definitely remember having to go ahead and specify payment method on some offers that I made on some items last year. I remember that the offer process indicated that if the offer was accepted, the payment would be made automatically.
Honestly, I don't really see this as something that would prevent me from making offers. If I am making an offer and it is accepted, I would have paid for it anyway.
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Guys…let’s say you want to pay with PayPal…you’re telling me you have to go through the entire payment process before the offer is accepted? If that’s the case, I’m done making offers.
I was recently subjected to this process as well and found it annoying. In order for me to send an offer to the seller, I needed to specify how I would pay, so I needed to tell them I'd be using paypal and specify which credit card to use. Then, if the seller accepts the offer, they automatically run the payment. I would imagine all future offers will use this payment method unless I specify otherwise.
This forced aspect of the offer transaction only started for me about a month ago.
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I was recently subjected to this process as well and found it annoying. In order for me to send an offer to the seller, I needed to specify how I would pay, so I needed to tell them I'd be using paypal and specify which credit card to use. Then, if the seller accepts the offer, they automatically run the payment. I would imagine all future offers will use this payment method unless I specify otherwise.
This forced aspect of the offer transaction only started for me about a month ago.
That’s ridiculous. I can see that if you’re just paying with a card, but not if you’re using paypal. You’re supposed to give eBay your paypal password? How else could they “run the payment” once the offer is accepted?
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So….yet another new e-bay trick…not sure when it started, but recently. If you want to make a seller an offer e-bay will not make the offer until you list a form of payment. Then instead of getting an e-mail that the seller has accepted, and then being asked to pay…if the seller accepts your offer, e-bay automatically pays the seller. Not sure what the difference is, except it is e-bay forcing more rules down your throat if you are a buyer…
I've made several offers recently without this necessity. I rarely sell on ebay. Is this possibly an option that the seller can select?
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Not sure, but it felt like it was a setting imposed by e-bay…the last several years, their stupid and arbitrary rules are making it very unpleasant to do business on e-bay….but sometimes its the only way to buy something you want…
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That’s ridiculous. I can see that if you’re just paying with a card, but not if you’re using paypal. You’re supposed to give eBay your paypal password? How else could they “run the payment” once the offer is accepted?
I'm not sure how they do it, but they do. When I'm logged into ebay and go to make a payment, the paypal window pops up and lists my payment methods and says "We recognize you on this device so you don't need to login..." This was the case before the forced payment method selection.
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I'm not sure how they do it, but they do. When I'm logged into ebay and go to make a payment, the paypal window pops up and lists my payment methods and says "We recognize you on this device so you don't need to login..." This was the case before the forced payment method selection.
I make sure that I don’t remain logged into PayPal on any device. A couple of times PayPal has set it that way, and I manually went in and turned it off. Do you think that is the difference?
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From all I've read and heard about eBay in this place, shouldn't this be strike 100 against them? Or even 1,000, or maybe 1,000,000? I've really lost count by now, lol.
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From all I've read and heard about eBay in this place, shouldn't this be strike 100 against them? Or even 1,000, or maybe 1,000,000? I've really lost count by now, lol.
I was thinking the same thing - only 10? Probably 100+ is more like it.
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We are like drug addicts…we ought to quit using e-bay…but sometimes you want what they have…
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I was thinking the same thing - only 10? Probably 100+ is more like it.
Ah, great minds think alike!
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We are like drug addicts…we ought to quit using e-bay…but sometimes you want what they have…
They are pretty much the only game in town for some stuff :sad:
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Greg's new Wacky Mall has good stuff, but the more obscure/rare items seem to only appear on eBay.
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I make sure that I don’t remain logged into PayPal on any device. A couple of times PayPal has set it that way, and I manually went in and turned it off. Do you think that is the difference?
I think it has something to do with ebay. They may have an agreement with paypal somehow, kind of like how you can login with a google ID to many different websites. I say this because if I go to paypal directly, the website doesn't recognize me as logged in. I must physically login.
The paypal window I get from ebay is actually a popup window on top of my ebay session, it's not a new tab.
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They are pretty much the only game in town for some stuff :sad:
Wackys aside, there is so much relatively obscure stuff from the past that I never would have found elsewhere. Sports memorabilia being just one example - old magazines, game programs, yearbooks, photos, ticket stubs, cards, etc. I could go on and on and on....
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But it’s also a blessing and a curse - as many of us know, all this fun stuff can really pile up after 20+ years of eBaying . . .
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But it’s also a blessing and a curse - as many of us know, all this fun stuff can really pile up after 20+ years of eBaying . . .
50 years of collecting, including that 20+ years of ebay, and of never throwing anything out. My piling up days are over due to lack of space. Lots to get rid of!! Something has to leave for every item I now collect!!
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50 years of collecting, including that 20+ years of ebay, and of never throwing anything out. My piling up days are over due to lack of space. Lots to get rid of!! Something has to leave for every item I now collect!!
The new Postcards are coming in, so get those Chromes and ANS7-9 gold foils out.
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50 years of collecting, including that 20+ years of ebay, and of never throwing anything out. My piling up days are over due to lack of space. Lots to get rid of!! Something has to leave for every item I now collect!!
Sign me up to attend when you have an open house and garage sale!
I unfortunately had to start getting rid of things 30 years ago due to lack of space. I'd love to now go through some of the things that I had.
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Ebay - Can't live with it. Can't live without it.
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Ebay - Can't live with it. Can't live without it.
However, what did we do before we had it?
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Same as before cell phones. We managed just fine. But now it's hard to imagine life without.
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Coincidentally was here today - teaching mahjong -
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Same as before cell phones.
And dont forget the Wrapper magazine classified ads!
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And dont forget the Wrapper magazine classified ads!
Those were a lifeline between local shows!!
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I can't explain it, by I'm always drawn to the auctions from this seller
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304994165411
https://www.ebay.com/str/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds
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I can't explain it, by I'm always drawn to the auctions from this seller
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304994165411
https://www.ebay.com/str/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds
And so presumably when you win one of those auctions, you travel to Carroll, Ohio to pick up the item in person?
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And so presumably when you win one of those auctions, you travel to Carroll, Ohio to pick up the item in person?
Their auctions seem a bit pricey. Can't imagine why you would want to keep abreast of them. ;)
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Their auctions seem a bit pricey. Can't imagine why you would want to keep abreast of them. ;)
Only a boob would care about any of that stuff.
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No no, Scot(t) is right. They are a tit bit pricey.
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Their auctions seem a bit pricey. Can't imagine why you would want to keep abreast of them. ;)
Yes, I do recall these sorts of items being priced for much less a while back, if my mammary serves me correctly.
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Yes, I do recall these sorts of items being priced for much less a while back, if my mammary serves me correctly.
The prices (and everything else!) are inflated. Please now, can we let the air out and let this go?
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The prices (and everything else!) are inflated. Please now, can we let the air out and let this go?
Yeah, I think we’ve milked it for all it’s worth.
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Seller feels a little magic will sell these items ABRA CadaBRA
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Nice to see you guys getting a little frustration...off your chest!
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Chest, or not to chest, that is the question.
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Would be cool to see Etsy crush eBay.
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I can't explain it, by I'm always drawn to the auctions from this seller
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304994165411
https://www.ebay.com/str/whozitsnwhatzitsvintagefinds
I think I can see why... :o
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Has anyone seen eBay's Card Condition Guidelines?
https://pages.ebay.com/cardconditions/
Here's an excerpt (I guess all of my cards are Near Mint or Better according to eBay)
Near Mint or Better
Cards in Near Mint condition are equivalent to a fresh pack. They only have slight imperfections such as 1–3 rounding or soft corners and slightly rough edges. Any damage aside from this would automatically lower the card’s condition.
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there is a wide variance in the description vs what it actually would be graded. best to make sure the pictures are good.
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"Pack fresh" is what I usually say to describe brand new cards. I don't know that I have ever sold what you would call "used" cards on ebay, but definitely, pics are a must.
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Has anyone had the problem of Ebay where you receive a delivery notice, but there is nothing in your mailbox?!?
I am currently dealing with this and Ebay doesn't even give you a tracking # to help fill out a post office claim form. The number provided by Ebay isn't even a tracking number "ESUS155814143". WTF?!?!
There isn't even a way to dispute this on Ebay if it says item was delivered. I can only contact the seller and that is so far fruitless.
Any suggestions? Other than bend over and take it in the rear and say, "thank you can I have another."????
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Has anyone had the problem of Ebay where you receive a delivery notice, but there is nothing in your mailbox?!?
I am currently dealing with this and Ebay doesn't even give you a tracking # to help fill out a post office claim form. The number provided by Ebay isn't even a tracking number "ESUS155814143". WTF?!?!
There isn't even a way to dispute this on Ebay if it says item was delivered. I can only contact the seller and that is so far fruitless.
Any suggestions? Other than bend over and take it in the rear and say, "thank you can I have another."????
I have been on the screwed end of the deal as both a seller and a buyer. They get you both ways, only ebay always ends up collecting their fee.
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Has anyone had the problem of Ebay where you receive a delivery notice, but there is nothing in your mailbox?!?
I am currently dealing with this and Ebay doesn't even give you a tracking # to help fill out a post office claim form. The number provided by Ebay isn't even a tracking number "ESUS155814143". WTF?!?!
There isn't even a way to dispute this on Ebay if it says item was delivered. I can only contact the seller and that is so far fruitless.
Any suggestions? Other than bend over and take it in the rear and say, "thank you can I have another."????
How long has it been since it says the item has been delivered? If it has been more than several days then I'd be concerned.
I've had problems with tracking in sending and receiving eBay Standard Envelopes. Sometimes they are scanned as delivered when they are not and some NEVER are scanned as delivered, yet they are. Actually have one TODAY that says was delivered, yet it wasn't in my mailbox. When that has happened it me in the past, the item usually arrives within a day or so.
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How long has it been since it says the item has been delivered? If it has been more than several days then I'd be concerned.
I've had problems with tracking in sending and receiving eBay Standard Envelopes. Sometimes they are scanned as delivered when they are not and some NEVER are scanned as delivered, yet they are. Actually have one TODAY that says was delivered, yet it wasn't in my mailbox. When that has happened it me in the past, the item usually arrives within a day or so.
I have had that happen too, where it shows up the next day. But, I had one go missing for a month and I had to refund the buyer, then it showed up. And yet again, I was screwed.......
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I have had that happen too, where it shows up the next day. But, I had one go missing for a month and I had to refund the buyer, then it showed up. And yet again, I was screwed.......
I've been lucky for far as a seller. I've had maybe 3 standard envelopes that didn't list as delivered. The buyers didn't complain, so I assume they received their items.
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I also have received emails from ebay stating that the item was delivered at such-and-such a time. Not only was the item not in the mailbox, the mailperson had not even come for the day yet. He/she didn't come until two hours later! Still no ebay item, and it wasn't even scheduled to be delivered that day, according to my USPS email. The item finally arrived a couple of days later.
Within that same week, I was supposed to get another item according to the USPS email, but the item didn't arrive. I've also had still other items for which ebay sent an email, stating that the item had arrived when my mail truck hadn't passed through the neighborhood yet. This inconsistency freaked me out at first, but I calmed down after the items showed up.
I don't know what tracking service ebay was using, but it was totally messed up! I noticed that ebay never even sent an email about delivery for the last couple of items I purchased.
So, I agree that unless it's been a few days after the estimated delivery date, I wouldn't worry.....YET.
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My gripes have been more against the post office recently than Ebay, though they involved Ebay transactions.
The latest is the USPS indicating in it's ebay tracking that the item arrived to the post office but not to my po box to be picked up, and for weeks!
It did land in my PO box and and I did pick it up and coincidentally, the wrong item was sent and I had thrown away the packaging, so I didn't know who it came from - I finally figured it out and was honest about it, so asked if the vendor still had the item (he was going to refund me as it showed it not delivered) - he did and will be sending it to me. I get so many items from ebay, Topps, auction houses etc., that it piles up if I'm gone for a few days.
Another item is a caveat for all sellers - over Thanksgiving the line at the post office was really long. I had a prepaid package so I left it in the bin with all of the other prepaid packages that the workers all suggest that we do with prepaid items and guess what - it NEVER got scanned and apparently never delivered, and because I didn't wait in line to get it scanned at the counter had no proof that I actually brought it to the post office to be mailed. The buyer never got it so who knows what happened to it....stolen at the post office branch? At the central sorting center? I had to refund the buyer and was out a $400 plus sale. I was in line a few months later at a different post office to get a prepaid package scanned and the postal employee told me I didn't have to waste my time in line and that my purchase of the postage was enough proof that I sent the item out!!!! He interrupted me twice when I told him that wasn't true until he listened to my reasoning then reluctantly agreed that it could be lost or stolen if just dropped off that way....sheesssh...
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I am hoping I will get it today....from the looks of it, it shows it went from NY to my house in Oshkosh WI in 8 hours.
I am also hoping someone at the post office is instead of scanning the items into the post office, they are just scanning them as delivered.
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I have had that happen too, where it shows up the next day. But, I had one go missing for a month and I had to refund the buyer, then it showed up. And yet again, I was screwed.......
I had an item show up several months later with a note attached that it was in a sorting bin that they thought was empty when they moved the Post Office to a new building. I had already received a replacement from the seller, but I contacted him to let him know. It wasn't a high dollar item, so he told me to just keep it.
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I am currently dealing with this and Ebay doesn't even give you a tracking # to help fill out a post office claim form. The number provided by Ebay isn't even a tracking number "ESUS155814143".
That number is a tracking number. I looked it up and it says it was delivered on 8/3 in Bethpage, NY and should be to you by Monday, 8/7.
https://parcelsapp.com/en/tracking/ESUS155814143
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Is the “delivered” to an intermediate shipper? Because I see there is another tracking number referenced as “next tracking number.”
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Is the “delivered” to an intermediate shipper? Because I see there is another tracking number referenced as “next tracking number.”
I would suspect that is the case. Using the term "delivered" is confusing/inaccurate in my view. Maybe "arrived" would be a better choice.
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Great news!!! I finally received my item!! :D :-[
I am so relieved and frustrated on this whole mess…
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That number is a tracking number. I looked it up and it says it was delivered on 8/3 in Bethpage, NY and should be to you by Monday, 8/7.
https://parcelsapp.com/en/tracking/ESUS155814143
Aren't the tracking numbers that start with "ES" for eBay shipping. I find many of those will say delivered when they have not been. USPS seems to be reasonably reliable, but some times my neighbor gets them, and sometimes they show up a day later.
What really surprises me is when Amazon delivers a package to my neighbor across the street. That's all they do, deliver packages, they of all people should be aware that the even numbered houses are on one side of the street and the odd numbered ones on the other. I guess Amazon is happy just to find someone who wants to work these days.