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Title: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Hipton on October 17, 2017, 05:59:14 PM
I am going through my Wacky stuff and came across some unopened Lost Wackys packs.  There's two green packs that say "Old Adjusted Titles," a blue pack and a red pack that say "Brand New Series" and a yellow pack and a purple pack that both say "Old Forbidden Titles."  They all have Porkie and Clodfather on the front.  What's in these? Do the different colored packs mean a different set? These were from so long ago and I can't remember. I think I opened a green pack, but don't know where it is. I have so much stuff! Still can't find my 1st series sets and my full poster box. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on October 17, 2017, 06:57:39 PM
I am going through my Wacky stuff and came across some unopened Lost Wackys packs.  There's two green packs that say "Old Adjusted Titles," a blue pack and a red pack that say "Brand New Series" and a yellow pack and a purple pack that both say "Old Forbidden Titles."  They all have Porkie and Clodfather on the front.  What's in these? Do the different colored packs mean a different set? These were from so long ago and I can't remember. I think I opened a green pack, but don't know where it is. I have so much stuff! Still can't find my 1st series sets and my full poster box.
Just throw them on ebay, matt's been making thousands of $ on this crap!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on October 17, 2017, 07:23:26 PM
I am going through my Wacky stuff and came across some unopened Lost Wackys packs.  There's two green packs that say "Old Adjusted Titles," a blue pack and a red pack that say "Brand New Series" and a yellow pack and a purple pack that both say "Old Forbidden Titles."  They all have Porkie and Clodfather on the front.  What's in these? Do the different colored packs mean a different set? These were from so long ago and I can't remember. I think I opened a green pack, but don't know where it is. I have so much stuff! Still can't find my 1st series sets and my full poster box.

These are my notes.

A pair of the yellow and purple packs contain the first series, as follows:

Lost Series 1
Antenmann's
Buggie
ClodFather
Fanatik
Fool-Aid
Garbage Pail Kids
Gooya
Gristlers
Hawaiian Punks (Juice Box)
Irvings Soaps
Janitor In A Slum
Kill
The Little Barmaid
Midget Rice
Mixwell Hearse
Monsterettes
Mr. Potato Famine
Usneeze
Nastee Crush
Tushie Roll
Pig Lips Tea
Pig Pen
Bacteria
Porkie
Richie Retch
Rotting Zone
Sea Honkies
Taster's Choke (new version)
Unlucky Dog
Winsome
Orgeo – bonus
Ovary Show – bonus
Lost Gum (pink) – bonus
Lost Gum (yellow) - bonus
Janitor In A Slum puzzle

The green pack contains the following replacements for the first series art that was altered before printing, plus a few extras, as follows:

Replacements
Buggies
Nastee Crush
Antenmann's
Hawaiian Punks
Mixwell Hearse
Gooya
Mr Potato Famine
Little Barmaid
Pig Pen
Garbage Pail Kids
Fool Aid
Tushie Roll

Bonuses provided w/replacements
Grow Germ
Runny Face
Jujubats
Orgeo
Lost Gum (green)

A pair of the red and blue packs contain the second series (2006, I think), as follows:
Lost Series 2
Dr. Peeper
Forger's Coffee
Libber's
A'cent
Pigs Blue Ribbon
Pro-Grossout
Brain'nola
Chia Punk
FrozFoot
My Spittle Pony
Snafu
Farties & Lames
Jo-Jo
Conun the Librarian
Exximo Pie
Beaver
Fungicolor
Slippery Murry-O Bros
Boosh Ball
Carpi Sun
Twisted
Soldier of Misfortune
Scar
TV Died
Spleen Beat
Bob Magazine
Lush Pop
Sweat Valley High
Barfie Doll
Farting Lineup
Sad Magazine
Boy's Lice
Shebad
Lost Gum (yellow)
Lost Gum (pink)
Forger's Coffee puzzle

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: mikecho on October 17, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
Pat, you forgot to put in the last things for Lost Wackys series 2: Lost Gum (pink) and Lost Gum (yellow). Also, I think that the Lost Wackys series 1 replacement bonus at the end should say: Lost Gum (green). Finally, it should be Tushie Roll in the two places where it's incorrectly written.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: mikecho on October 19, 2017, 09:15:16 AM
Thank you, Pat! I just noticed the additions and changes today! I did miss one, however-there was a Mixwell Hearse replacement bonus puzzle. If you could put that one in, that would be great! Also, it's written "Growgerm''.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Hipton on October 19, 2017, 06:16:03 PM
Thanks, Pat and Mikecho! So, the yellow & purple packs and the blue& red packs go together as a set.  I don't think I have any extras of those but I think I may have a few extra green packs.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Lavirus on October 21, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
Lost Series 1
Lost Gum (pink) – bonus
Lost Gum (yellow) - bonus

Bonuses provided w/replacements
Lost Gum (green)

Are you sure there's a distinct Lost Gum (yellow) and Lost Gum (green)? I've got what I call yellow but it's really yellow-green.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on October 21, 2017, 04:11:33 PM
Are you sure there's a distinct Lost Gum (yellow) and Lost Gum (green)? I've got what I call yellow but it's really yellow-green.

No, I posted what I had noted myself based upon auctions, and then Mike asked for changes.  My intent was to provide a basic list, not to certify anything.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Lavirus on October 21, 2017, 04:28:45 PM
Wow, I just looked at eBay and Matt Stock is putting out some complete and utter nonsense with "alternate puzzles" and "1st cereal subset". I mean, if you want freshly printed stuff, sure, knock yourself out. The lists and details I provided for the Master Spreadsheet are what actually came out at the time.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 21, 2017, 05:15:30 PM
Wow, I just looked at eBay and Matt Stock is putting out some complete and utter nonsense with "alternate puzzles" and "1st cereal subset". I mean, if you want freshly printed stuff, sure, knock yourself out. The lists and details I provided for the Master Spreadsheet are what actually came out at the time.

When you really think about it, why is stuff printed in 2005 any more or less desirable than stuff printed in 2011 or 2017?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Lavirus on October 21, 2017, 05:17:45 PM
When you really think about it, why is stuff printed in 2005 any more or less desirable than stuff printed in 2011 or 2018?

You make a fair point, it's all bootleg material after all. But I feel like there's a blanket of dishonesty around the current eBay listings. If it was just presented as "Lost Wackys return!" or something, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Either way, if it's worth hundreds of dollars to you, it's your choice...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 22, 2017, 06:25:56 AM
You make a fair point, it's all bootleg material after all. But I feel like there's a blanket of dishonesty around the current eBay listings. If it was just presented as "Lost Wackys return!" or something, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Either way, if it's worth hundreds of dollars to you, it's your choice...

It's not worth 50 cents to me, but yeah, if people like it...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2017, 08:59:14 AM
Wow, I just looked at eBay and Matt Stock is putting out some complete and utter nonsense with "alternate puzzles" and "1st cereal subset". I mean, if you want freshly printed stuff, sure, knock yourself out. The lists and details I provided for the Master Spreadsheet are what actually came out at the time.
In some auctions, matt makes definitive statements on numbers produced and rarity then in other auctions, he uses terms like "this appears to be".  It is all salesmenship to create the perception of substance, intrigue and rarity to this abortion of a project that could only be botched as badly as it was by the clowns who ran with this.  I smile every day knowing that Duane sabotaged it like he did and I am sure matt is smiling every day as he is cashing in on the "variations", "alternates" and such.   This is like 1981 donruss and fleer baseball cards to me.  Regardless of the above, he is capitalizing on this versus throwing all this stuff away.  More power to him.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: mikecho on October 22, 2017, 11:44:48 AM
No, I posted what I had noted myself based upon auctions, and then Mike asked for changes.  My intent was to provide a basic list, not to certify anything.
Sorry about that, Pat. My additions and corrections were all taken from the Spreadsheet itself, and the two are practically identical. If you'll look at my post from the 19th, there's just two more that you need to put in and that's it. Other than that, your list is fine and dandy. If there isn't a Lost Gum (green), then I'm wrong.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 07, 2018, 11:21:20 AM
LOL
the hilarity continues
LOST WACKY PACKAGES BOX STICKERS 1st SERIES Puzzle Checklist Complete Set 9/9

eBay auction: #322983676972
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 07, 2018, 11:37:36 AM
LOL
the hilarity continues
LOST WACKY PACKAGES BOX STICKERS 1st SERIES Puzzle Checklist Complete Set 9/9

eBay auction: #322983676972

Wow!  This is indeed a rarity!  Probably sell for tens of thousands!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 07, 2018, 11:39:48 AM
LOL
the hilarity continues
LOST WACKY PACKAGES BOX STICKERS 1st SERIES Puzzle Checklist Complete Set 9/9

eBay auction: #322983676972

How does Topps not care about this????  Presumably the images from the poster that was created depicting full boxes is going to be turned into a 9 sticker set?  And, it's labeled as a "first series checklist," so we should expect more to come.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 07, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
Why would Topps care about display box stickers? It's not competing with anything they're doing and it promotes their brand.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 07, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
I don't believe that Topps would - or should - care, either.  This nonsense, though - in particular this latest puzzle and so-called "checklist" -  is undermining the integrity of WP as a whole.  (Not that Topps hasn't been doing a good job of this themselves the past few years.)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 07, 2018, 03:04:04 PM
I don't believe that Topps would - or should - care, either.  This nonsense, though - in particular this latest puzzle and so-called "checklist" -  is undermining the integrity of WP as a whole.  (Not that Topps hasn't been doing a good of this themselves the past few years.)

Why is it undermining anything? I'm not sure I even understand what it is, but I don't see the problem.

Edited to add: I didn't realize it was lost wacky related. That is pretty silly.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 08, 2018, 04:57:53 AM
Why would Topps care about display box stickers? It's not competing with anything they're doing and it promotes their brand.

I just thought that if Topps cared so much about the Halloween "Packs of Fun" (which were only being offered on the forum) that they quashed it, that something that actually says "Wackys" with puzzles and checklists being sold on ebay might bother them. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 08, 2018, 05:11:50 AM
And the use of their trepademarked logo
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 08, 2018, 05:20:12 AM
I just thought that if Topps cared so much about the Halloween "Packs of Fun" (which were only being offered on the forum) that they quashed it, that something that actually says "Wackys" with puzzles and checklists being sold on ebay might bother them.

When I said this I misunderstood what it was. I do understand why Topps would be upset with the whole Lost Wackys thing.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 08, 2018, 09:13:43 AM
When I said this I misunderstood what it was. I do understand why Topps would be upset with the whole Lost Wackys thing.
I believe ‘LOST’ is only in the auction title, to lure in similar buyers.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 08, 2018, 11:38:14 AM
The "I don't know where this set came from" stuff is getting ridiculous. I guess he thinks it adds an air of mystery but it seems unnecessary.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Rabid Shaver on January 12, 2018, 07:04:35 AM
Another Player in the Lost Wacky Hunt......and selling individually??

....and a nice SCAN of each .(Hint Hint)


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-3RD-SERIES-STILL-LOST-PINK-GUM-SUPER-RARE/322985821139?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
Where's the best place to find nice quality scans of all the Lost Wackys? I will never be able to afford these, so images to look at are fine with me.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on January 12, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
Another Player in the Lost Wacky Hunt......and selling individually??

....and a nice SCAN of each .(Hint Hint)


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-3RD-SERIES-STILL-LOST-PINK-GUM-SUPER-RARE/322985821139?

That seller purchased all 7 sets of LW3 that Matt had put up around Christmas with $179 Buy it now pricing. It happened fast and prevented others from getting a set at that price and now he has sets listed for $499 or best offer besides selling cards as singles. It was great that Matt deviated from the bid only strategy he had been employing and has now gone back to. It would be nice to see more sets offered at $179 which is close to what OS6 sets went for.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 12, 2018, 03:18:28 PM
Now we get the numbered, gold cards.
Man, this stuff just gets better and better!! LOLOLOL

eBay auction: #222793789441

it's only a matter of time before we get Wardrobe Relic cards containing cloth snippets of the green, blue or ultra-rare pink panties of the Ovary Show girl.

(https://s18.postimg.org/rmjzgd61h/s-l1600-21.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rmjzgd61h/)(https://s18.postimg.org/7rxxu8yjp/s-l1600-22.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7rxxu8yjp/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 12, 2018, 06:58:03 PM
Now we get the numbered, gold cards.
Man, this stuff just gets better and better!! LOLOLOL

eBay auction: #222793789441

it's only a matter of time before we get Wardrobe Relic cards containing cloth snippets of the green, blue or ultra-rare pink panties of the Ovary Show girl.

(https://s18.postimg.org/rmjzgd61h/s-l1600-21.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rmjzgd61h/)(https://s18.postimg.org/7rxxu8yjp/s-l1600-22.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7rxxu8yjp/)
Don't give him any Ideas
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Soremel on January 12, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
For laughs & giggles, do a Google image search for "Gold Backgrounds Images"...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on January 13, 2018, 04:43:22 AM
How come Topps can't give this guy a cease and desist, but we can't get the Halloween packs of fun anymore?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on January 13, 2018, 07:24:31 AM
I want to know if Matt get's BULK printing discounts and is the Wardrobe cards of the Ovary Show will be scratch and Sniff ?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on January 13, 2018, 07:30:07 AM
Lost Wacky's Series 1, 2 and 3 Scans - I hope this helps and the ZIP file is accessible for all, follow drop box link.  If you can not get it, please PM me

Richard


https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4wdhkugryz1938/Lost%20Wacky%20Scans.zip?dl=0
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Rabid Shaver on January 13, 2018, 07:31:39 AM
I want to know if Matt get's BULK printing discounts and is the Wardrobe cards of the Ovary Show will be scratch and Sniff ?

Cool!.....then we could tell how old the cards are.....  :o


Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on January 13, 2018, 07:35:17 AM
According to Greg's Site http://www.wackypackages.org/

The release dates are as follows:

LW1 - 2005
LW2 - 2008
LW3 - 2011

Release would be a rough term, maybe print date as they were never an official Topps Product

Good luck and always be WACKY!
#FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 13, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
Lost Wacky's Series 1, 2 and 3 Scans - I hope this helps and the ZIP file is accessible for all, follow drop box link.  If you can not get it, please PM me

Richard


https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4wdhkugryz1938/Lost%20Wacky%20Scans.zip?dl=0

Thanks!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 13, 2018, 07:53:54 AM
I want to know if Matt get's BULK printing discounts...?

Let's hope so!  The poor man has to make a profit somewhere!


"...and if the Wardrobe cards of the Ovary Show will be scratch and Sniff ?"
"Cool!.....then we could tell how old the cards are....."

Now you guys are just being plain nasty!  ;D   

Or perhaps they could be scratch offs, like lottery tickets?  Scratch off the panties and reveal a winning prize!

Added note: Rabid Shaver, you can be the first to test out the "Ovary Show" scratch and sniff.  I wouldn't want to take that privilege away from you.  Undoubtedly this must be the oldest of the Lost Wackys.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Rabid Shaver on January 13, 2018, 08:32:01 AM
Added note: Rabid Shaver, you can be the first to test out the "Ovary Show" scratch and sniff.  I wouldn't want to take that privilege away from you.  Undoubtedly this must be the oldest of the Lost Wackys.
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.....smells like:

(https://s13.postimg.org/lut3i6o7n/s-l500_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lut3i6o7n/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 13, 2018, 09:37:46 AM
Added note: Rabid Shaver, you can be the first to test out the "Ovary Show" scratch and sniff.  I wouldn't want to take that privilege away from you.  Undoubtedly this must be the oldest of the Lost Wackys.



.....smells like:

(https://s13.postimg.org/lut3i6o7n/s-l500_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lut3i6o7n/)

Thanks for the update!  Inquiring minds need to know!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Lavirus on January 14, 2018, 11:14:36 AM
Lost Wacky's Series 1, 2 and 3 Scans - I hope this helps and the ZIP file is accessible for all, follow drop box link.  If you can not get it, please PM me

Incredibly helpful, thanks! Looking through 'series 3' you can tell it's garbage time, whatever crap they had to put in there aside from a few I really like such as "Juju Bats".

Well, there's a sucker born every minute...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 14, 2018, 11:25:02 AM
Incredibly helpful, thanks! Looking through 'series 3' you can tell it's garbage time, whatever crap they had to put in there aside from a few I really like such as "Juju Bats".

Well, there's a sucker born every minute...

Pretty sure I have a JuJu Bats sticker from an older pack of "Lost Wackys," back from Greg's forum.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: mikecho on January 14, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
Thanks for the update!  Inquiring minds need to know!
The line actually is "Inquiring minds want to know." Just sayin'.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 14, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
The line actually is "Inquiring minds want to know." Just sayin'.

True, but I really, really, really needed to know!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on January 15, 2018, 06:44:30 AM
Lost Wacky's Series 1, 2 and 3 Scans - I hope this helps and the ZIP file is accessible for all, follow drop box link.  If you can not get it, please PM me

Richard


https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4wdhkugryz1938/Lost%20Wacky%20Scans.zip?dl=0

Thanks for doing this! Much appreciated! I would have bought them when they were new, but I didn't know they existed.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 16, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
and the good times keep on rolling - here comes the silvers.
kind of shocked there are only 5 of each, should have been 10 or 25.
really, just printing money at this point, as that high bidder on all of the cards doesn't seem to have an upper limit to what they're willing to pay.

eBay auction: #323006750718

(https://s18.postimg.org/eqmrvjct5/s-l1600-21.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 16, 2018, 05:00:35 PM
and the good times keep on rolling - here comes the silvers.
kind of shocked there are only 5 of each, should have been 10 or 25.
really, just printing money at this point, as that high bidder on all of the cards doesn't seem to have an upper limit to what they're willing to pay.

eBay auction: #323006750718

(https://s18.postimg.org/eqmrvjct5/s-l1600-21.jpg)

It's astounding that anyone would care about these.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on January 16, 2018, 05:48:48 PM
It's astounding that anyone would care about these.

Finally!  What I've been waiting for my entire life!  The gods have finally acknowledged me and answered my prayers!  Praises be!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrSushi on January 16, 2018, 06:33:10 PM
and the good times keep on rolling - here comes the silvers.
kind of shocked there are only 5 of each, should have been 10 or 25.
really, just printing money at this point, as that high bidder on all of the cards doesn't seem to have an upper limit to what they're willing to pay.

eBay auction: #323006750718

(https://s18.postimg.org/eqmrvjct5/s-l1600-21.jpg)

I can't believe they called those silvers and not foils. That background looks like used aluminum foil!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 17, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
I can't believe they called those silvers and not foils. That background looks like used aluminum foil!

That may be what it is!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on January 17, 2018, 11:57:09 AM
It's interesting that the gold cards have several different backgrounds.


(https://s9.postimg.org/7c8vepla3/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7c8vepla3/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/a6c0s62vv/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a6c0s62vv/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/7c8vepszv/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7c8vepszv/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/wv17rqrzf/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wv17rqrzf/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/e2pco50q3/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/e2pco50q3/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 17, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
different backgrounds for all of them
as Soremel mentioned, it's like looking at Google Image results for 'silver foil' or 'gold foil'

(https://s18.postimg.org/lg3f5viix/s-l1600-22.jpg)(https://s18.postimg.org/veodrtwy1/s-l1600-23.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on January 17, 2018, 09:30:43 PM
Can I call BS?????
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 17, 2018, 09:33:06 PM
lets all be honest.  We are not mad at Matt for selling Lost Wackys and producing as many as he wants.  We are mad because we did not think of it ourselves  >:D
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 18, 2018, 02:13:17 AM
lets all be honest.  We are not mad at Matt for selling Lost Wackys and producing as many as he wants.  We are mad because we did not think of it ourselves  >:D

I invested in an extra set of the first 5 packs, and now they might not even be worth what I paid for them.  That does tick me off.  Anyone here know how to print boxes?  Maybe we can use mine as a template and start selling those   >:D
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 18, 2018, 11:11:41 AM
I invested in an extra set of the first 5 packs, and now they might not even be worth what I paid for them.  That does tick me off.  Anyone here know how to print boxes?  Maybe we can use mine as a template and start selling those   >:D

Have the prices on the original lost wacky sets dropped a lot? I sold mine 8 months ago at a huge profit from what I paid for them.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Beanball on January 18, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Finally!  What I've been waiting for my entire life!  The gods have finally acknowledged me and answered my prayers!  Praises be!
No doubt.
That's hilarious.
 :-X
I must say that's a great business.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 20, 2018, 10:36:07 AM
Matt just sent these to me.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/5xyqiu3st/20180120_133404.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5xyqiu3st/)
Nice gesture. Even though people say he makes them.

So tempting to open, but I know I shouldn't.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 27, 2018, 04:48:13 AM
(https://s14.postimg.org/5xyqiu3st/20180120_133404.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5xyqiu3st/)
So tempting to open, but I know I shouldn't.

Well, I opened them. Since they were free, I figured it wasn't really a loss. I have a full LW3 set now, but two incomplete puzzles.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 27, 2018, 05:10:24 AM
Well, I opened them. Since they were free, I figured it wasn't really a loss. I have a full LW3 set now, but two incomplete puzzles.

Incomplete puzzles?  That did not used to be the case with LW1 and LW2.  What titles?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 27, 2018, 07:28:21 AM
Incomplete puzzles?  That did not used to be the case with LW1 and LW2.  What titles?

4/9 Buck Tales, 5/9 McSnoremick. Direct correlation of pieces. (If the Buck Tales pieces were replaced by pieces for McSnoremick in the same spot, then I'd have a full McSnoremick puzzle.)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on January 27, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
4/9 Buck Tales, 5/9 McSnoremick. Direct correlation of pieces. (If the Buck Tales pieces were replaced by pieces for McSnoremick in the same spot, then I'd have a full McSnoremick puzzle.)

That's rough. Its not like you can just pick up the missing pieces without dropping some real money.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on January 27, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
I find that incredible and insulting at the same time. 

These have been proven to be "non-official" and someone is printing
them, using artists' work, to pass them off as real, and then they
have the nerve to "short" you a piece or two, so you feel required
to buy more packs to complete your "non-official" set.

Maybe it's just me....
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Soremel on January 27, 2018, 08:37:06 PM
I find that incredible and insulting at the same time. 

These have been proven to be "non-official" and someone is printing
them, using artists' work, to pass them off as real, and then they
have the nerve to "short" you a piece or two, so you feel required
to buy more packs to complete your "non-official" set.

Maybe it's just me....

It might make those who bought unopened packs of the Lost Wackys 3rd series, with the intent of keeping them sealed, wonder whether or not their sealed packs contain complete puzzles (or sets).

I'm wondering how deep some of the current bidders on the gold & silver versions are willing to go... if one is intending on putting together a complete set, they will need to buy both the regular gold and silver limited editions, as well as their "ALT" counterparts.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 27, 2018, 10:55:00 PM
At what they are selling for, you should just print your own
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 28, 2018, 03:42:42 AM
I was planning on keeping them sealed for their resale value. But then I wondered.. hm? Maybe there's one of those gold ones in there. When I sent a thank you message, I mentioned about keeping them sealed or not. He said that he thinks I should open them.

Now likely a week later, I think I might as well open them. He graciously sent them to me for free, when he is selling them for almost two-hundred a pop, and he suggested I open them. So, I did it. After all, I didn't really spend money on them.

Of course, my parents aren't too jazzed with Ovary Show, but at least it is censored.

I might be one of the only ones on the forum who has opened one, as it sounds, eh?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 28, 2018, 04:20:38 AM

Of course, my parents aren't too jazzed with Ovary Show, but at least it is censored.

I might be one of the only ones on the forum who has opened one, as it sounds, eh?

I'm assuming he met you at Allentown, and knows you are a minor.  In that case, he should NOT have sent you Ovary Show, even censored.

So, what other titles and puzzle pieces were in each orange and green LW packs?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on January 28, 2018, 06:05:05 AM
I find that incredible and insulting at the same time. 

These have been proven to be "non-official" and someone is printing
them, using artists' work, to pass them off as real, and then they
have the nerve to "short" you a piece or two, so you feel required
to buy more packs to complete your "non-official" set.

Maybe it's just me....

No, definitely NOT just you Paul! I'm sure you can guess how I'm feeling about this.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 28, 2018, 06:14:06 AM
I'm assuming he met you at Allentown, and knows you are a minor.  In that case, he should NOT have sent you Ovary Show, even censored.

So, what other titles and puzzle pieces were in each orange and green LW packs?

Yes, I met him at Allentown. Ovary was in a pack of course, but I guess everyone is assuming that he's producing them, so he could let it out for me? Doubt it.

The normal thirty cards were among the two packs. Should have check which, but too late. Also had two stickers with gum that was "Still Lost". If you want me to post pics, I'll try my best. My scanner is kinda being an issue right now, so I'd have to take pictures with my cell phone if that's fine.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on January 28, 2018, 06:33:46 AM
Yes, I met him at Allentown. Ovary was in a pack of course, but I guess everyone is assuming that he's producing them, so he could let it out for me? Doubt it.

The normal thirty cards were among the two packs. Should have check which, but too late. Also had two stickers with gum that was "Still Lost". If you want me to post pics, I'll try my best. My scanner is kinda being an issue right now, so I'd have to take pictures with my cell phone if that's fine.

He wasn't charging you, and in my opinion he should have opened the pack and removed Ovary Show.  Heck, if he had opened the packs, maybe you'd have gotten a complete puzzle.

I looked at his newest auction, and it says 27 cards, and there are scans.  I was just curious whether you found the nine mismatched puzzle pieces in the same pack, or whether there were a few in each pack.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 28, 2018, 08:31:10 AM
I was just curious whether you found the nine mismatched puzzle pieces in the same pack, or whether there were a few in each pack.
I got the five McSnoremick pieces in one pack, and the four Buck Tales in the other.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on February 06, 2018, 04:14:22 PM
Why are the silvers and gold now pulling over $800?   
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 06, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
Because there is one person that is determined to win one of every title, regardless of cost, of both the golds and silvers.
And so far they have.
The other collectors that want to win one, any one, just keep pushing the bids higher and higher, but always lose.
About $23K spent so far, and there are still a few more titles to go for complete sets of both.
Round 2 should go for a lot less.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on February 06, 2018, 05:26:41 PM
Because there is one person that is determined to win one of every title, regardless of cost, of both the golds and silvers.

But why?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on February 07, 2018, 03:32:42 AM
Because there is one person that is determined to win one of every title, regardless of cost, of both the golds and silvers.
And so far they have.
The other collectors that want to win one, any one, just keep pushing the bids higher and higher, but always lose.
About $23K spent so far, and there are still a few more titles to go for complete sets of both.
Round 2 should go for a lot less.

I can see one person putting in a crazy bid; but for someone else to also agree to push the auction with the risk of having to drop 700 on a card is pretty bizarre.
Another weird Lost Wacky situation. I guess we need to expect the atypical with these cards.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on February 07, 2018, 04:21:12 AM
I can see one person putting in a crazy bid; but for someone else to also agree to push the auction with the risk of having to drop 700 on a card is pretty bizarre.
Another weird Lost Wacky situation. I guess we need to expect the atypical with these cards.

I am assuming this must be a last resort for their collection. Maybe they have everything else.

Maybe they have a big wallet.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Kook on February 07, 2018, 06:46:10 AM
Well, I opened them. Since they were free, I figured it wasn't really a loss. I have a full LW3 set now, but two incomplete puzzles.

Based on his nice gesture, IMO, if you emailed him & asked if the puzzles were supposed to be split or not in the packs (I don't think they are supposed to be, since his ebay auctions usually say which puzzle is in the pack) I'm sure he would send you the puzzle pieces to complete 1 or the other. Sounds like the 2 variation packs got mixed up somehow.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on February 07, 2018, 06:48:21 AM
I've been trying to understand what the big appeal is over "Lost Wacky" Series 3 and I really don't get it. For the most part, the gags and art have been getting progressively inferior since series 1. And based on the ridiculous ebay sales, we'll undoubtedly see a Series 4 (and probably more). The question now, is how many more people are going to get lured into "collecting them all". Remember folks, they're "lost" for a reason.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on February 07, 2018, 07:31:45 AM
I've been trying to understand what the big appeal is over "Lost Wacky" Series 3 and I really don't get it. For the most part, the gags and art have been getting progressively inferior since series 1. And based on the ridiculous ebay sales, we'll undoubtedly see a Series 4 (and probably more). The question now, is how many more people are going to get lured into "collecting them all". Remember folks, they're "lost" for a reason.

Your cancelled Halloween wackies from last fall will undoubtedly be treasured Lost Wackys if you are ever allowed to show them to us ;)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on February 07, 2018, 08:07:40 AM
Your cancelled Halloween wackies from last fall will undoubtedly be treasured Lost Wackys if you are ever allowed to show them to us ;)

Almost true. They may be "lost" but they're not wackys.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on February 07, 2018, 09:36:17 AM
Almost true. They may be "lost" but they're not wackys.

Hopefully someday the art will see the light of day.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on February 07, 2018, 03:11:02 PM
But why?
'cause they're psycho. and rich. So, eccentric, I guess.   8)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Brian Mc on February 07, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
About $23K spent so far

WOW! Just on LW3 Golds and Silvers?   :o
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: chipereno on February 07, 2018, 05:24:03 PM
It's a total sham. He's running up his own auctions. Probably hasn't sold a thing.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on February 07, 2018, 08:15:26 PM
My points exactly, Neil, well said....er, well "written"  :-[
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on February 11, 2018, 07:57:50 AM
It's a total sham. He's running up his own auctions. Probably hasn't sold a thing.
welcome back...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on February 12, 2018, 10:56:06 AM
It's a total sham. He's running up his own auctions. Probably hasn't sold a thing.

Wouldn't that be costing him a lot in ebay fees?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 27, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
I do like the idea of featuring certain Wacky characters as stand-alone portrait titles.

    (http://i65.tinypic.com/n13r5t.png)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 27, 2018, 03:47:36 PM
and now....  ta-da! 1 of 1 Diamond cards!!  eBay auction: #222858076070

will these top $1K?

(https://s9.postimg.org/t4h8hcblb/Lost_Diamond.png)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on February 27, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
And Topps is worried about Neil's 36 buck set.  unreal



Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on February 27, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
and now....  ta-da! 1 of 1 Diamond cards!!  eBay auction: #222858076070

will these top $1K?

$1K, you think?  Seems like an awful lot for a peepshow!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on February 27, 2018, 06:51:24 PM
and now....  ta-da! 1 of 1 Diamond cards!!  eBay auction: #222858076070

will these top $1K?

(https://s9.postimg.org/t4h8hcblb/Lost_Diamond.png)

There's no copyright on these, so what's to stop me from buying it and making a 1000 of them, and then selling them for $1 each? 

Heck, I don't even have to buy it; I can print it from the auction photos.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on February 28, 2018, 10:35:55 AM
Hmm, I've posted less X rated art for sale on ebay and have had it removed by them.....
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: All-Brain on February 28, 2018, 03:24:07 PM
and now....  ta-da! 1 of 1 Diamond cards!!  eBay auction: #222858076070

will these top $1K?

(https://s9.postimg.org/t4h8hcblb/Lost_Diamond.png)

  I have never understood the desire to collect (let alone pay inflated prices for) stickers with alternate, goofy borders or backs. Super refractor, mirror, lenticular, super shiny, sparkly, blah blah blah lol.....WOO HOO...gotta have it!!!!!! NOT
 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on February 28, 2018, 04:31:17 PM
This is insane. They are just throwing Photoshop backgrounds on these things and printing them up as they go. These are from 2018 not 2011. What a farce. It's literally stealing.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Lavirus on February 28, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
Is it the same small group of buyers who're going for these? Are there really uninformed Wacky enthusiasts interested in the Lost stuff? *smh*
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 28, 2018, 05:15:12 PM
and here comes the "lost" stickers of pics of Wacky Boxes to go with box checklist that showed up earlier. Just the white backs for now. Probably not long before all the 'rare' variations show up.

images for the entire set are included along with the auction for just this 'bonus' card. along with the 3 bonus cards showing a mock '92 box, the Wacky Truck and a '79 case. All box images are clearly Greg's.

eBay auction: #222861072653

(https://s9.postimg.org/t1khs11nz/s-l1600-24.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on February 28, 2018, 05:26:44 PM
The image of the Wacky Truck appears to be my truck. Between the fact that it's a Garbage Can-dy version and it looks like they even attempted to repair the one torn corner of the cardboard backer. Hey, where are my royalties!?!?!?    ;D
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on February 28, 2018, 09:53:04 PM
The sad thing is, these would likely be swell extras for an official release, be it an Old School set or otherwise (I really do dig the Wacky Truck sticker - apologies to Bigtomi).  But these knockoffs?  C'mon....

I could imagine that Wacky-izing photos of various vintage Wacky merchandise could be cool..  T-shirts, the glasses, etc. 

You add that bold black border to some okay photos and it really sells it.  Of course Topps feels it is smart to REMOVE that trademark bold border design element from Wackys for some boneheaded reason.   :great: :-\
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on March 01, 2018, 05:41:08 AM
Just shaking my head while I am picturing these guys sitting at a table, brainstorming on what sticker to do next. The Diamond one, I bet they were all high giving themselves over that one.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2018, 06:37:55 AM
Just shaking my head while I am picturing these guys sitting at a table, brainstorming on what sticker to do next. The Diamond one, I bet they were all high giving themselves over that one.

Human nature is odd. Everyone knows these are not a Topps product, whenever they were/are produced. So what's the appeal? I can't imagine, but chaque un a son gout.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 01, 2018, 06:52:57 AM
The image of the Wacky Truck appears to be my truck. Between the fact that it's a Garbage Can-dy version and it looks like they even attempted to repair the one torn corner of the cardboard backer. Hey, where are my royalties!?!?!?    ;D
LOL . I was wondering if that was yours.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2018, 08:30:04 AM
I have no interest in any of the lost wackys stuff, but the box stickers are cool.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 01, 2018, 09:41:20 AM
I have no interest in any of the lost wackys stuff, but the box stickers are cool.
LOL. Now you’re going to be hooked. Go for the gold set!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 01, 2018, 10:02:12 AM
LOL. Now you’re going to be hooked. Go for the gold set!

It will be fun trying to spot which boxes are mine!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on March 01, 2018, 10:20:42 AM
LOL . I was wondering if that was yours.
Actually, so was I...and now, I'm thinkin' maybe not. I really thought mine had that corner damage, but I just checked and it does not. Hmmmm. Mine also has a price sticker on the upper right, but I'm certain there's some Photoshop clean up been done here, regardless. C'est la vie. Maybe they're off the hook on my royalties.  hehehe
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: moron_chicken on March 01, 2018, 10:38:19 AM
I have the original art to the lost title "Gooya".  I have been thinking of listing it on Ebay.

Hopefully someday the art will see the light of day.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on March 05, 2018, 03:18:53 PM
So the latest listing for the uncut sheet of lost wacky boxes has the Topps logo on the boxes.  Isn't that an infringement of copyright?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323115138806
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 05, 2018, 03:34:27 PM
So the latest listing for the uncut sheet of lost wacky boxes has the Topps logo on the boxes.  Isn't that an infringement of copyright?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323115138806

Topps doesn't seem to care about any of this, including the X-rated items being listed, sometimes even with the Topps name in the item title. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Soremel on March 05, 2018, 06:31:30 PM
It will be fun trying to spot which boxes are mine!

I was thinking the same thing! Last year, Greg asked me for high-resolution scans of my Wacky Ads 5 cent box. He had alluded to the possibility of doing an upgraded WP box poster, but after seeing these, I have a feeling that the scans may be used for something else!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 05, 2018, 06:38:57 PM
I was thinking the same thing! Last year, Greg asked me for high-resolution scans of my Wacky Ads 5 cent box. He had alluded to the possibility of doing an upgraded WP box poster, but after seeing these, I have a feeling that the scans may be used for something else!

They are basically printing money.  And when they run out, they can just print more.  But, Topps doesn't mind; much more important to quash independent cards that were offered at a fraction of the price these single cards are selling for.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 06, 2018, 01:01:59 PM
I was thinking the same thing! Last year, Greg asked me for high-resolution scans of my Wacky Ads 5 cent box. He had alluded to the possibility of doing an upgraded WP box poster, but after seeing these, I have a feeling that the scans may be used for something else!

Do you get royalties?  :-[
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Soremel on March 06, 2018, 04:50:56 PM
Do you get royalties?  :-[

R-O-Y-A-L-T-I-E-S.... sorry, never heard of that word!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on March 07, 2018, 07:57:36 PM
Rawgoo.... You mean I can print money too!!??


Haaaaaaahahahahahahahahha

#StayWacky
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on March 07, 2018, 09:09:57 PM
and now....  ta-da! 1 of 1 Diamond cards!!  eBay auction: #222858076070

will these top $1K?

(https://s9.postimg.org/t4h8hcblb/Lost_Diamond.png)


Yes!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 08, 2018, 06:33:09 AM

Yes!
Damn! $1326. Insanity
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 08, 2018, 08:15:43 AM
Damn! $1326. Insanity

Do you think the buyer of these understands what they are?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 08, 2018, 10:28:13 AM
Damn! $1326. Insanity

I saw that auction.  That is insane.  Paying over 1300 bucks for something that was just made, and not by Tops is crazy.  Just think of all of the very cool Original series stuff you could have purchased with that cash.  Wow.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 08, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
Do you think the buyer of these understands what they are?

Apparently not.  I'm still surprised that ebay hasn't required that the Ovary Show cards be moved to the adult section. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on March 08, 2018, 01:58:05 PM
I saw that auction.  That is insane.  Paying over 1300 bucks for something that was just made, and not by Tops is crazy.  Just think of all of the very cool Original series stuff you could have purchased with that cash.  Wow.

P.T. Barnum was definitely correct.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on March 08, 2018, 01:59:33 PM
Rawgoo.... You mean I can print money too!!??


Haaaaaaahahahahahahahahha

#StayWacky

Why not print Wacky money?  Just take the president off the bill and slap on Quacker Duck or even Dr. Ono if you dare.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 08, 2018, 02:23:09 PM
Damn! $1326. Insanity

Oh, the beautiful minty Original Series Wackys that could have been bought with that kind of cash!  Does anyone recognize who is buying these homemade cards?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on March 08, 2018, 02:31:57 PM
Damn! $1326. Insanity

And he can't show that card to his wife. Nice investment!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on March 08, 2018, 02:50:53 PM
Does anyone recognize who is buying these homemade cards?

OK, I confess! It was me.  ;D I was dazzled by the sparkly colors...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 08, 2018, 03:00:45 PM
OK, I confess! It was me.  ;D I was dazzled by the sparkly colors...

This Topps allows, but Halloween cards that aren't even called "Wackys" must be shredded.  I am disgusted.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on March 08, 2018, 03:39:24 PM
OK, I confess! It was me.  ;D I was dazzled by the sparkly colors...


IT WAS YOU!  That out bid me.


 :]

Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 11, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
LOLOL. a bonus card for the cancelled WP-Star Wars set. the bar just keeps going lower and lower with these things.

I can only hope we'll eventually get to see an image for "crumpled WP wrapper in parking lot outside a convenience store, circa '73"

(https://s9.postimg.cc/s5wtw8zin/s-l500.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 12, 2018, 10:52:45 PM
I gotta admit that I saw this one and just chuckled. 

It IS a "Lost Wacky" of sorts.  A legit cancelled series.  I consider the person creating and selling these to be pretty audacious and a bit ridiculous.  But not as ridiculous as the folks buying them. 

LOLOL. a bonus card for the cancelled WP-Star Wars set. the bar just keeps going lower and lower with these things.

I can only hope we'll eventually get to see an image for "crumpled WP wrapper in parking lot outside a convenience store, circa '73"

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 13, 2018, 09:45:17 AM

I can only hope we'll eventually get to see an image for "crumpled WP wrapper in parking lot outside a convenience store, circa '73"

Ha!   Here's my nomination for trivial minutiae.  I could be on the LW Board of Directors

    (http://i65.tinypic.com/28iqq13.png)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on March 13, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
The irony is I have much more interest in a wacky release featuring display boxes, wrappers or that NY Magazine cover than the majority of the regular wacky releases we've seen lately.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on March 13, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
The irony is I have much more interest in a wacky release featuring display boxes, wrappers or that NY Magazine cover than the majority of the regular wacky releases we've seen lately.

The subset in Old School 4 was fun.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 13, 2018, 02:51:10 PM
I gotta admit that I saw this one and just chuckled. 

It IS a "Lost Wacky" of sorts.
it's not even in the Lost Wacky set, which is funny.
Just one of the "WP Boxes" set bonus cards, along with the fictitious '92 box.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Bigmuc13 on March 14, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Ha!   Here's my nomination for trivial minutiae.  I could be on the LW Board of Directors

    (http://i65.tinypic.com/28iqq13.png)

I managed to get one of these magazines many years ago.  I love that huge black background inset that has a lot of the series 3 Wacky's.  I love looking through it every now and then.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 22, 2018, 07:41:41 PM
eBay auction: #222894956961

typo in the description:
"It shall be officially declared that March 6th shall be forever known as JAY DAY!"

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ct747akqz/s-l1600-25.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on March 23, 2018, 05:47:46 PM
 I Like that Sugar Baby art. I'll need to do a sketch card.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on March 25, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
I just had a terrifying thought.  Years ago, I visited the grave site of Norm Saunders, as he retired to and was buried in my home town in Nebraska.  I believe I posted photos of the headstone to the old Wacky forum around a decade ago.  Is someone going to take a photo of Norm's headstone, throw a thick border around it and call IT a "Lost Wacky"? 

 :sad:

Ha!   Here's my nomination for trivial minutiae.  I could be on the LW Board of Directors

    (http://i65.tinypic.com/28iqq13.png)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Brian Mc on March 25, 2018, 05:02:28 PM
Is someone going to take a photo of Norm's headstone, throw a thick border around it and call IT a "Lost Wacky"? 

Probably not... until you gave them the idea  :P
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 25, 2018, 05:13:54 PM
obverse pulled from a currently listed auction for a Postcards 7 sketch card.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/6ih2ia7mz/s-l1600-30.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on March 27, 2018, 03:57:43 PM
sketch card
(https://s9.postimg.org/j1krowd6j/baby.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j1krowd6j/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Soremel on March 28, 2018, 07:32:31 PM
obverse pulled from a currently listed auction for a Postcards 7 sketch card.

(https://s7.postimg.org/6ih2ia7mz/s-l1600-30.jpg)

The photoshop attempt to fill in the hair where the "Wacky Packages Postcards" text was removed on the Jay Day card, looks like a poorly made toupe.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 09, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
OMG!
More Lost Wackys were found at the Philly show!

What are the odds?

eBay auction: #183171403061
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on April 09, 2018, 07:08:38 PM
And fear not, y'all!  "20 years on eBay you can bid with confidence!"
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 11, 2018, 10:41:58 AM
Don’t some of you think char boy's primary motivation for these "series" is a prank on the Wacky Packages collector community?

Who else would find the colored panties variations of Ovary Snow (and other silly crazy stuff), ridiculously preposterous and absurd except us?

I assume these guys read these threads, laughing over a drink and a smoke, and find the reactions funny (albeit in a troll-like way). 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on April 11, 2018, 02:13:26 PM
Don’t some of you think char boy's primary motivation for these "series" is a prank on the Wacky Packages collector community?

Who else would find the colored panties variations of Ovary Snow (and other silly crazy stuff), ridiculously preposterous and absurd except us?

I assume these guys read these threads, laughing over a drink and a smoke, and find the reactions funny (albeit in a troll-like way).

If they are laughing it's to the bank over knuckleheads buying forged and stolen art. I'd think the primary motivation is making money otherwise you can prank people just by posting them here.  It looks like Ebay or Topps  may have shut them down. I don't see anything on Ebay unless they are printing up more for a second go at it and this is just a break. Also, there is just active lying involved in the auctions. Greg has new stuff up now and it says "I got this at the Philly Non-Sport Show". No, you made the cards. There is a big difference.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on April 11, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
Don’t some of you think char boy's primary motivation for these "series" is a prank on the Wacky Packages collector community?
No. Like slamjim says, it's for the money.

I assume these guys read these threads
I'm certain your assumption is quite incorrect. I don't believe either of them ever come here.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on April 12, 2018, 12:42:57 AM
Trolling the hobby?  There may be some aspect to it, but I would tend to agree that it's mainly for the money. 

You know, I get that it's always "buyer beware".  But I can acknowledge that cliche as valid and still find dishonest or intentionally misleading (sometimes downright fraudulent) auction descriptions kind of terrible. 

There's a seller on eBay that, over the past year, has listed cookie jars, but has affixed vintage bubblegum graphics to them, in most cases using scans I had posted to my Flickr years ago (so I take it personally), and adding post-processing digital wear-and-tear to the scans.  And they're scamming people, plain and simple.  They carefully dance around within their descriptions, using the word vintage to describe the graphics, while never technically calling the jar itself a vintage item.  The implication is clear, but the language leaves an out - and if you specifically ASK, they'll tell you they are new.  So, legally, they are sort of covered.  But its disingenuous and the goal is profit-by-deception.  At the prices they charge, they are intentionally hoping to find someone who misunderstands the nature of what it is that they're selling - believing they are plopping down hard cash for a candy jar from the 50's or 60's, but getting something created last month.  So, rather than try to create what should be a clear and honest exchange of goods, the sellers are hedging that the other party reads their carefully-worded (and structured to mislead) description and makes the leap to believe the piece isn't what it is. 

And, in a similar fashion, I do believe there is some of that approach at work with these "Lost Wacky" auctions. 

I'm sure it is tempting to take advantage of other people's foolishness to make money.  I get it - "easy money" usually sounds pretty good!   But I believe most of us hope that, before we go down that road to mislead for the easy money, we consider that it's kind of a terrible way to get it, and an awful way to treat our fellow man.  Certainly our fellow collectors, who in this case don't know any better.

It's still "buyer beware", but I don't think we need to give a pass to the folks who take advantage of that or take advantage of other people for profit.  You can be really honest and forthright and still make great deals.  On both sides of things.  It happens.  Dishonesty doesn't need to be a part of being successful at it. 

Don’t some of you think char boy's primary motivation for these "series" is a prank on the Wacky Packages collector community?

Who else would find the colored panties variations of Ovary Snow (and other silly crazy stuff), ridiculously preposterous and absurd except us?

I assume these guys read these threads, laughing over a drink and a smoke, and find the reactions funny (albeit in a troll-like way).
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: MoldRush on April 12, 2018, 02:25:35 AM
As time goes on and printing technology improves, I tend to believe there is a lot more of this kind of stuff going on than most of us realize.  Look at all the difficulty involved in fighting  currency counterfeiting, and that's a hell of a lot harder to pull off than color printing formatted to match a commercially produced product.  I wonder if the grading certification companies for comics, cards, etc review submissions as much for authenticity as they do for grade, and even if so, do they sometimes get fooled by insanely well-made fakes.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Schmutz on April 12, 2018, 09:56:09 AM
If they are laughing it's to the bank over knuckleheads buying forged and stolen art. I'd think the primary motivation is making money otherwise you can prank people just by posting them here.  It looks like Ebay or Topps  may have shut them down. I don't see anything on Ebay unless they are printing up more for a second go at it and this is just a break. Also, there is just active lying involved in the auctions. Greg has new stuff up now and it says "I got this at the Philly Non-Sport Show". No, you made the cards. There is a big difference.
Greg, Matt and others selling the LWS3 are only in it for the Money. Matt is one of those people that believes that the only way he can "win" is if someone else loses. He is a bully. I always thought that Greg was a smart guy and would put himself above this stuff, I was obviously wrong. He has partnered with Matt in this dishonest scheme. Not only are they lying about the "lost" nature of these cards, they are also using stolen and manipulated art. Norm Saunders did the art for Ovary Show and I can promise you they never got permission from David or Zina to release it as a card or sticker. The parody was meant for Greg's eyes only. I'm sure if Norm were alive today he would be embarrassed by it being public.
I am very confused at the reluctance of some people on this forum to speak out against the perpetrators of this fraud. Are we all so self-absorbed that we can’t acknowledge others are being wronged? Or is it some irrational loyalty to Matt and Greg? I am convinced that if Matt were to come on the forum tomorrow and confess his crimes, some would only celebrate his confession and continue to ignore the crime. 
When I first started on wacky forums, it was all about how can we improve and help the hobby and have fun. That was the mantra then. Now, it seems like it's don't ask don't tell or who cares it’s not my money. Or the best one, this is capitalism at work. No it isn't, it is fraud. Whether you care about lost wackys or if you were involved with the original lost wackys is irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant, is that this is a crime and we are allowing it to happen. If you haven't yet, do yourself a favor and read the description that Matt has on one of his closed auctions. Everything is completely fabricated. He is lying to people in order to get them to overspend on fake cards. The same goes for the description of the LWS3 on Greg's site. We all know if they were being honest, there would be no sales. Try this description: "I decided to print some wacky packages to make a little extra money. I am not an artist so I am going to manipulate other artists work to make the cards appear unique. I couldn't find anyone to make die cut stickers so I made them as cards. I am printing a few "limited" items for now but if they sell I'll just make more "limited" and "rare" cards. These cards have nothing to do with Topps and are not real wacky packages but you should still buy them. Oh, I almost forgot, Greg is going to artificially inflate the price so we can really take advantage of people with deep pockets. “Sounds ridiculous right? It may sound ridiculous, but that is exactly what is happening. .  I am in no way attempting to police the hobby but as a human with a conscience, I have to speak out against this crime.
 If after reading all of the lies, you are still okay with what they are doing, your moral compass is severely damaged. Before anyone suggest that I am somehow butt hurt for not being part of this scam, that couldn't be further from the truth. I would never participate in this type of activity. I prefer to make money honestly and live my life with integrity.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 12, 2018, 12:55:20 PM
There's a seller on eBay that, over the past year, has listed cookie jars, but has affixed vintage bubblegum graphics to them, in most cases using scans I had posted to my Flickr years ago (so I take it personally), and adding post-processing digital wear-and-tear to the scans.  And they're scamming people, plain and simple.  They carefully dance around within their descriptions, using the word vintage to describe the graphics, while never technically calling the jar itself a vintage item.  The implication is clear, but the language leaves an out - and if you specifically ASK, they'll tell you they are new.  So, legally, they are sort of covered.  But its disingenuous and the goal is profit-by-deception.  At the prices they charge, they are intentionally hoping to find someone who misunderstands the nature of what it is that they're selling - believing they are plopping down hard cash for a candy jar from the 50's or 60's, but getting something created last month.  So, rather than try to create what should be a clear and honest exchange of goods, the sellers are hedging that the other party reads their carefully-worded (and structured to mislead) description and makes the leap to believe the piece isn't what it is. 

I remember seeing a case on Judge Judy about a woman selling photos of iPhones on eBay.  She says that her add said it was a photo, but Judge Judy was having none of it.  Maybe we need to sick Ms. Sheindlin on the Lost Wacky sellers or the seller who keeps selling photos of boxes.

https://www.snotr.com/video/739/eBay_scammer_on_Judge_Judy
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on April 12, 2018, 12:59:46 PM
I remember seeing a case on Judge Judy about a woman selling photos of iPhones on eBay.  She says that her add said it was a photo, but Judge Judy was having none of it.  Maybe we need to sick Ms. Sheindlin on the Lost Wacky sellers or the seller who keeps selling photos of boxes.

https://www.snotr.com/video/739/eBay_scammer_on_Judge_Judy

Does anyone buying a card with a box on it actually think they are getting the box though???? I've seen auctions with boxes in the picture, Frankenstein Stickers to be exact, but realize it's a picture of the box, not the box. So I don't buy it.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 12, 2018, 01:44:57 PM

Does anyone buying a card with a box on it actually think they are getting the box though????

These were listed as 5x7 photos of boxes, but the title was misleading.  I know more than a few of us on here almost pushed the buy it now on these.  It's separate from the Lost Wackys.

Search for "wacky packages box photo" and you'll see plenty of them with a $10 BIN.  Since the part about the photo is at the end of the description (i.e. Wacky Packages Series 16 Five cent Topps Display Box - 5x7 color photo), if you get emailed searches, you won't see it until you actually load the page.  If you're overzealous about clicking buy it now, you've just bought a 5x7 photo of a box for $10.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: moron_chicken on April 12, 2018, 04:41:15 PM
Here is a new seller, only 23 feedback rating selling lost wacky stuff.  Does anyone know who is this seller?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on April 12, 2018, 05:22:49 PM
Here is a new seller, only 23 feedback rating selling lost wacky stuff.  Does anyone know who is this seller?

Possibly Matt using another ID?

On a side note, Topps called me last week about these Ebay auctions. They wanted to know if anything was my art and they were not happy so someone tipped them off. I assume they asked Matt or got Ebay to shut down his Lost Wacky auctions.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Liptorn on April 13, 2018, 05:56:21 AM
Here is a new seller, only 23 feedback rating selling lost wacky stuff.  Does anyone know who is this seller?

Talk about nerve, here's a 8 year old account with a 23 rating in NYC, same place as Matt lives,
and the first Wackys they start selling are Lost Wackys after his account was suspended. What a coincidence!!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: 6_Fooey_Ounces on April 13, 2018, 06:39:45 AM
Check out this from the www.wackypackages.org site.  It's a review of the last Philly show.

Go to their home page, and click on the "Read Our Review Here".

Or, click this link:  http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html (http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html)

The last paragraph is interesting.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: quas on April 13, 2018, 08:09:17 AM
Check out this from the www.wackypackages.org site.  It's a review of the last Philly show.

Go to their home page, and click on the "Read Our Review Here".

Or, click this link:  http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html (http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html)

The last paragraph is interesting.

Clearly not written by an independent third party!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on April 13, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
Check out this from the www.wackypackages.org site.  It's a review of the last Philly show.

Go to their home page, and click on the "Read Our Review Here".

Or, click this link:  http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html (http://www.wackypackages.org/phillyshow_4.7.18_review.html)

The last paragraph is interesting.

Ha, the usual dig towards me by that tool Greg. Bitter to the end. He's a thief and a snake. Always has been and always will be.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 13, 2018, 11:42:07 AM
". . . the word on the street is that there are the usual haters on some forum somewhere going nuts. However nobody could say exactly what specifically they are upset about that cannot be explained by some pettiness of some sort or another. Haters gonna hate."


I'm not sure how many Wacky Packages forums there are, but that might be directed at us.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 13, 2018, 12:17:36 PM
I certainly don't hate the lost wackys.  I'd say that I don't have a dog in the fight here.  I'd even be happy to buy a set of each if the price was reasonable.

What I don't like is that the true nature of their existence is being mired in this clouded mystery they're trying to convey to the public.  Let's face it, they are what they are -- artists renderings that were never used, being printed up, non-commercially, by someone who doesn't own rights to any of it.  I would compare it to taking photos of clips of movies that were left on the cutting room floor and printing up your own copies to sell at exorbitant prices by falsely claiming what they are. 



Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 13, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
On a side note, Topps called me last week about these Ebay auctions. They wanted to know if anything was my art and they were not happy so someone tipped them off. I assume they asked Matt or got Ebay to shut down his Lost Wacky auctions.

Maybe Topps has been letting them run the gambit so they could collect more when they finally decide to file a lawsuit.

I had a similar incident with using a particular photographer's pictures in my web site.  I obtained permission from him, but then a professional organization used the photos from my site on their site without getting his permission.  They ran a commercial on national TV, showing their web site with one of his photos for about 5 seconds, and he didn't respond initially.  After they'd run it for 3 months and it had become stale, he sued them for $100 per spot per market where it was shown.  Had he contacted them immediately, his possible damages collected would have been minimal.  Since he waited until the commercial was finished running, he sued for over $2 Million.  I was deposed for the law suit, but I never heard the outcome.  I'm sure he got something because they did use his photos without his permission and they filed for bankruptcy soon after that.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 13, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
Let's face it, they are what they are -- artists renderings that were never used, being printed up, non-commercially, by someone who doesn't own rights to any of it.  I would compare it to taking photos of clips of movies that were left on the cutting room floor and printing up your own copies to sell at exorbitant prices by falsely claiming what they are.

Exactly like the original lost wackys. As for “falsely claiming what they are,” I’ve honestly never read these auction descriptions. What are the false claims?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 13, 2018, 03:22:08 PM
What are the false claims?

Probably the biggest false claim is to call them "Wacky Packages," since Topps most certainly owns the copyright on that name.  If Topps didn't produce it and didn't give them permission to sell them using that name, then that's a false claim. 

If I started making adhesive bandages and sold them as "Band aids," which is what they are commonly called, but is a copyrighted brand name, then I'm falsely advertising my product.  If you've ever listened closely to the old commercial: "I am stuck on Band Aid Brand cause Band Aids' stuck on me."  They clearly let you know that it's their brand.  Everyone else sells adhesive bandages and is careful not to call them band aids.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on April 13, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
What are the false claims?

Some of the "lost binders" actually have "Topps" in the description.


"2005 TOPPS LOST WACKY PACKAGES 1ST SERIES OFFICIAL BINDER BRAND NEW"


Is that a false claim?

Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 13, 2018, 06:57:24 PM
Probably the biggest false claim is to call them "Wacky Packages," since Topps most certainly owns the copyright on that name.  If Topps didn't produce it and didn't give them permission to sell them using that name, then that's a false claim. 

If I started making adhesive bandages and sold them as "Band aids," which is what they are commonly called, but is a copyrighted brand name, then I'm falsely advertising my product.  If you've ever listened closely to the old commercial: "I am stuck on Band Aid Brand cause Band Aids' stuck on me."  They clearly let you know that it's their brand.  Everyone else sells adhesive bandages and is careful not to call them band aids.

Same as the original lost wackys.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 13, 2018, 06:59:56 PM
Some of the "lost binders" actually have "Topps" in the description.


"2005 TOPPS LOST WACKY PACKAGES 1ST SERIES OFFICIAL BINDER BRAND NEW"


Is that a false claim?

Jim

Yes, that is a false claim.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on April 14, 2018, 04:19:49 AM
Yes, that is a false claim.

I've seen "Topps" in several of the auction descriptions, including Ovary Show.  Advertising X-rated cards as Topps  products could certainly hurt their business.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Schmutz on April 14, 2018, 09:07:07 AM
Exactly like the original lost wackys. As for “falsely claiming what they are,” I’ve honestly never read these auction descriptions. What are the false claims?

You are so transparent its a joke!! You can’t admit that your boys could ever do anything wrong. Why the love affair with Greg and Matt. You ask these questions and expect others to buy into your ignorance. You have read the descriptions and you know exactly what is going on here. I don't know why you are working so hard to defend them. My motives are clear, I want them to stop lying and cheating people. What are your motives? Why are you working so hard to defend them? Greg and Matt have never come on here to defend themselves. You seem to be the only one that feels like what they are doing is fine. You keep saying "exactly like the original lost wackys" or "How is this different" If you don't see it by now then you are too challenged to ever understand the difference. I am posting more evidence against Matt and Greg, try to follow along.

Matt's 1st auction:

"This Auction Features a Nice Find!

The Ultra rare 2011 Lost Wacky false claim 3rd Series ALTERNATE PUZZLE SET McSnoremicks

I did not know that this series existed until a few years ago and it took me two years to track them down. false claim

I have now obtained a modest number of the alternate puzzle sets. I am working on obtaining the LW3 sets that come in green and orange packs, with the 9 card Bucktales Puzzle Set.

Here is more information on Lost Wackys Series 3 from the Wackypacks.com website:  *Gregs website!!! what are the chances?*
           
Topps Wacky Packages false claim 
Lost Wackys Series 3
THE HISTORY

THE HISTORY false claim
Mysterously, a 3rd Lost Wacky series appeared in 2011.
Lost Wacky Series 1 came out in 2005, Lost Wacky Series 2 came out in 2008.
The series contains titles from all the masters: Norm Saunders, Jay Lynch, John Pound, Tom Bunk and others.
It is unknown how many sets were produced but it seems there are far fewer than LW1 or LW2.
Similar to LW2, 25 sets of Red Ludlows false claim and 40 sets of Black Ludlows false claim were produced.
The TITLES
There are 27 titles in the series, they were packaged in two packs, one orange, one green.
There are two subtly different versions of every title. Apparently the variation hounds false claim had influence in LW3 as they did in LW1.

 Another fun description: Topps didn't know a thing about these cards. They are doing all they can to build up the back story.This is just more lies. false claim 

"• ◦ Rumor has it that the series was finished, complete with wrappers, checklists and even promo cards and was just about to be distributed, when Topps caught wind of it and put the kibosh on the entire thing. They were supposed to be destroyed, and possibly many were, but some amount survived and in 2017, after a six year cooling off period, the remaining quantity of material surfaced and slowly started finding its way into collectors' hands."

"• The 3rd series is by far the most mysterious and deepest underground of all three series. We here at wackypackages.org were not even aware of its existence until several years later. false claim

So in closing:
For your enjoyment here is a picture of the mysterious 2011 uncut sheet. If you blow up the image you can see in the bottom right the sheet was printed in April of 2017. The print date on the sheet and the start of Matt's auctions are just a few days apart. Still convinced that Matt and Greg found this treasure trove  and didn't print it themselves?

(https://s17.postimg.cc/9815ilior/LW3_sheet1_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9815ilior/)


fun-fact: The sneaker boy selling lost series 3 wacky packages only bids on char boy auctions.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Trading-Card-Singles/60240/m.html?_ssn=apg227

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=183177680635&bidtid=1803631588008&_trksid=p2471758.m4792


Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 14, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
As well as these new, disingenuously titled auctions of selling the "Wacky Packages Original Series Sketch Card" pieces.
Having artists work sketches on the backs of checklists itself is a really cool idea, and selling as ACEO's or PSC's would be fine.
But stealing the logo/font and toothpaste tube from Topps to promote a false identity is just pathetic.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 14, 2018, 10:01:08 AM
Thanks for the info Caleb. As a matter of fact, I don’t know any of what’s going on here, because I don’t give a shit about lost wackys and have never looked at one of these auctions. Hard as it may be for you to believe, I have only a casual relationship with Greg or Matt. I talk to Greg a couple of times a year or when he comes to shows. Not sure why you’re determined to make me a part of the evil empire, but I’m going back to the aspects of the hobby which interest me now.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on April 14, 2018, 10:12:42 AM

Having artists work sketches on the backs of checklists itself is a really cool idea, and selling as ACEO's or PSC's would be fine.


I think they borrowed that idea from the classic binder sketches we did a few years ago.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on April 14, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
I think they borrowed that idea from the classic binder sketches we did a few years ago.

He's stating in the text of the auction that they are not official, and isn't using the Topps name, but these artists may having trouble getting work with Topps in the future.  Who knows, the pay might be better for them this way.  I recognize Jon Gregory as a previous Wacky sketch artist, but does anyone recognize the names Robert Elias or Robert Marcus?



Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Schmutz on April 14, 2018, 11:35:45 AM
Thanks for the info Caleb. As a matter of fact, I don’t know any of what’s going on here, because I don’t give a shit about lost wackys and have never looked at one of these auctions. Hard as it may be for you to believe, I have only a casual relationship with Greg or Matt. I talk to Greg a couple of times a year or when he comes to shows. Not sure why you’re determined to make me a part of the evil empire, but I’m going back to the aspects of the hobby which interest me now.

" I’ve honestly never read these auction descriptions. What are the false claims?"
"How do you know Greg has shilled these auctions? If true that would bother me much more than the sales themselves."
"Is his behavior in this situation any more or less criminal than the original printing and distribution of the Lost Wackys?"


Dave,
I'm not trying to make you part of anything. You seem to participate in this discussion just enough to imply there is noting wrong with what they are doing. You keep asking questions so I keep answering them. If you are not interested in the answers stop asking questions. I don't give shit about lost wackys either but I do give a shit about right and wrong. I also give a shit about this hobby and the people in it. I'm not one to look the other direction especially when people are being deceived and lied to.I don't think that there is anything else for me to point out to you or anyone else. The scam has been exposed and that was the point of my participation in the LWS3 threads. I'm glad other people here have taken this seriously and it appears that Topps has gotten involved too. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on April 17, 2018, 05:17:47 AM
" I’ve honestly never read these auction descriptions. What are the false claims?"
"How do you know Greg has shilled these auctions? If true that would bother me much more than the sales themselves."
"Is his behavior in this situation any more or less criminal than the original printing and distribution of the Lost Wackys?"


Dave,
I'm not trying to make you part of anything. You seem to participate in this discussion just enough to imply there is noting wrong with what they are doing. You keep asking questions so I keep answering them. If you are not interested in the answers stop asking questions. I don't give shit about lost wackys either but I do give a shit about right and wrong. I also give a shit about this hobby and the people in it. I'm not one to look the other direction especially when people are being deceived and lied to.I don't think that there is anything else for me to point out to you or anyone else. The scam has been exposed and that was the point of my participation in the LWS3 threads. I'm glad other people here have taken this seriously and it appears that Topps has gotten involved too.
I waved this flag for years in the hobby but watching the fraudsters continue their ways with people sheepishly defending them grew tiresome.  At least some people finally confided with me that they didn't want to piss away their free room and board and attending the parties that he offered during shows so no way were they going to challenge his behavior.  At the end of the day, collectors are most/only interested in themselves and not "the hobby".  It is only natural.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: moron_chicken on April 17, 2018, 06:15:33 AM
I see there is a new "boxes" set with unopenned packs.  I wonder if these are "mysteriously" packs?  I also see that Ebay was added a place to write a review on the auctions.  It does not appear you have to have been a buyer.  That ought to be interesting. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-BOX-STICKERS-4th-Series-Sealed-Complete-Set-Puzzle/263612873151?hash=item3d608d39bf:g:MRAAAOSwDfxa1TsW
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: quas on April 17, 2018, 07:24:09 AM
I see there is a new "boxes" set with unopenned packs.  I wonder if these are "mysteriously" packs?  I also see that Ebay was added a place to write a review on the auctions.  It does not appear you have to have been a buyer.  That ought to be interesting. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LOST-WACKY-PACKAGES-BOX-STICKERS-4th-Series-Sealed-Complete-Set-Puzzle/263612873151?hash=item3d608d39bf:g:MRAAAOSwDfxa1TsW

I don't get how the seller can use the word "Lost".  What about this auction product was ever "lost"?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 17, 2018, 07:48:36 AM
I don't get how the seller can use the word "Lost".  What about this auction product was ever "lost"?

Lost wackys have sold well, so this is “lost.”  Really, what does it matter, since any potential buyer with a double digit IQ would have to realize these are not lost wackys. I think the box stickers are very cool, but selling them this way does them a disservice.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: quas on April 17, 2018, 09:15:02 AM
Lost wackys have sold well, so this is “lost.”  Really, what does it matter, since any potential buyer with a double digit IQ would have to realize these are not lost wackys. I think the box stickers are very cool, but selling them this way does them a disservice.

Not necessarily true in every case.  I think Kelly Anne Conway has a double digit IQ but she would not realize these are not Lost Wackys.   8)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on April 17, 2018, 03:05:48 PM
I think Kelly Anne Conway has a double digit IQ
Not so sure about that one.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on April 17, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
Not so sure about that one.

So your thinking single digits.    ;)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2018, 01:44:11 PM
So your thinking single digits.    ;)

Considering she is Phi Beta Kappa with a law degree that seems unlikely.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: freetoes on April 18, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
I'll bet she would remember Wackys, being about the right age.

There's nothing "lost" about these pictures of boxes. They're simply being sold under the Lost Wacky banner. And now that this line has been crossed, the only limits are those of the printers' imagination.

Yes, these descriptions are intentionally misleading at best. And if we know for a fact that o**p is Greg, this is very disappointing.

Side note: What card was ever unique by design (being designated "1 of 1," no less)? I doubt if even Topps would do this.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on April 18, 2018, 03:20:15 PM

Side note: What card was ever unique by design (being designated "1 of 1," no less)? I doubt if even Topps would do this.

Topps Chrome sets have "Superfractors" that are 1 of 1 for each base title in the set.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 18, 2018, 03:35:40 PM
I'll bet she would remember Wackys, being about the right age.

There's nothing "lost" about these pictures of boxes. They're simply being sold under the Lost Wacky banner.

Greg is actually selling them on his own page with no “lost” reference.

http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/front.html
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: freetoes on April 18, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
Topps Chrome sets have "Superfractors" that are 1 of 1 for each base title in the set.

Thanks, Pat. Again I overestimated Topps. Another example of how they cured me of completism.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: freetoes on April 18, 2018, 06:41:42 PM
Greg is actually selling them on his own page with no “lost” reference.

http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/front.html

If anyone hasn't seen the site's LW3 page, it's interesting reading:

http://www.wackypackages.org/unpublished/LW3.html

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on April 18, 2018, 08:35:36 PM
If anyone hasn't seen the site's LW3 page, it's interesting reading:

http://www.wackypackages.org/unpublished/LW3.html
Interesting read or a pile of horseshit in terms of the mysteriousness of it?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on April 19, 2018, 12:00:49 AM
Interesting read or a pile of horseshit in terms of the mysteriousness of it?

The funniest part is it says that proof sheet from 2011 turned up yet the date on the sheet is from April 2017.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on April 19, 2018, 07:47:20 AM
Not an endorsement, just addind to the evolving history of this... Matt Stock posted today on the  "EvoMasher's Wacky Packages Marketplace" Facebook page, that the Wackypackages.org store is now open again. They are selling the same Lost Wacky Series 3 sets previously seen on eBay at:
             http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/front.html

I guess I would feel pretty bitter if I had purchased a set on ebay for $250 only to find it now sells for $125 in the store and perhaps not as rare as previously advertised.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 19, 2018, 08:32:26 AM
Not an endorsement, just addind to the evolving history of this... Matt Stock posted today on the  "EvoMasher's Wacky Packages Marketplace" Facebook page, that the Wackypackages.org store is now open again. They are selling the same Lost Wacky Series 3 sets previously seen on eBay at:
             http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/front.html

I guess I would feel pretty bitter if I had purchased a set on ebay for $250 only to find it now sells for $125 in the store and perhaps not as rare as previously advertised.

If you'd feel bitter about that, then you'd experience a lot of bitterness, as varying price points reflecting varying inventory are a normal part of buying and selling. 

If an ebay seller auctions and item and it sells for $200, and the same seller offers the same item buy it now for $150 the following month, is there something wrong with that?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 19, 2018, 10:05:21 AM
If you'd feel bitter about that, then you'd experience a lot of bitterness, as varying price points reflecting varying inventory are a normal part of buying and selling. 

If an ebay seller auctions and item and it sells for $200, and the same seller offers the same item buy it now for $150 the following month, is there something wrong with that?

On the other hand, if an earlier auction specifically implied that there was a limited quantity of these, that's wrong. Many sellers are not candid if they have many of an item because they know divulging that will depress prices. But outright lying about that would be wrong.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on April 19, 2018, 12:17:03 PM
On the other hand, if an earlier auction specifically implied that there was a limited quantity of these, that's wrong. Many sellers are not candid if they have many of an item because they know divulging that will depress prices. But outright lying about that would be wrong.

Yes, my point exactly. The description from one of the $250 sets follows below. I didn't bother to see how many sets have been sold on ebay but I would consider this deceptive advertising given there is almost always at least one auction running and now available in the store with no apparent limit, or not an indicated limit anyway,  to the quantity. How's that for a run-on sentence? :P

"The Ultra rare 2011 Lost Wacky 3rd Series set of 27/27 stickers with 9-card McSnoremick checklist puzzle.


This set is in NEW condition, still in it's original two sealed pack.

This set even comes with both lost gums cards as well as the very rare insert card.

The solo pictures are to show you exactly what is inside the 2 sealed packs.

These will be shipped priority insured.

THESE ARE VERY RARE AND YOU DO NOT SEE THEM VERY OFTEN."
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 19, 2018, 01:08:30 PM
http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/new/boxes_series4_pack.html

BTW, the description footnote (1) under the "Wacky Packages Box Stickers" pack image states 

1. This is an underground project. This is not an official Topps product.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on April 19, 2018, 02:14:16 PM
 

If an ebay seller auctions and item and it sells for $200, and the same seller offers the same item buy it now for $150 the following month, is there something wrong with that?

I would think that there would be something wrong with that if they were sold under the "limited" banner at $250 each, then offered in quantity at the lower price.
That would be price gouging.

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent.

Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on April 19, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
If you'd feel bitter about that, then you'd experience a lot of bitterness, as varying price points reflecting varying inventory are a normal part of buying and selling. 

If an ebay seller auctions and item and it sells for $200, and the same seller offers the same item buy it now for $150 the following month, is there something wrong with that?

No, there is nothing wrong with what you described, and it isn't unethical.  On an emotional level, however, I wouldn't say that I feel exactly happy whenever I happen to stumble across something at a much lower price than I originally bought it for.  I live with the situation, yes, though I'm not overjoyed.  I think most people would feel the same.  It's just human nature.  (Meanwhile, you're always thinking in the back of your mind what you could have bought with the extra cash!)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 19, 2018, 04:52:27 PM
I would think that there would be something wrong with that if they were sold under the "limited" banner at $250 each, then offered in quantity at the lower price.
That would be price gouging.

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to when a seller spikes the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair, and is considered exploitative, potentially to an unethical extent.

Jim

I’m bothered by deceptive or untruthful auction descriptions. Bottom line, if these sheets are just being printed up, suggesting otherwise is dishonest.

Beyond that, I could care less what is being charged for them. This isn’t gasoline or water during a hurricane, buyers can take it or leave it.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 21, 2018, 07:35:22 PM
http://www.wackypacks.com/forsale/new/boxes_series4_pack.html

BTW, the description footnote (1) under the "Wacky Packages Box Stickers" pack image states 

1. This is an underground project. This is not an official Topps product.

Since they used the exact font for "Wacky Packages" that I'm sure is a Topps copyright, I'll bet Topps would still have a problem with this set.  Admitting that it's an underground project doesn't absolve them of violating Topps' copyright.  Stating that Topps couldn't do it if they wanted to, doesn't mean they can do it legally either.  Methinks they're treading up a slippery slope here.

It's in the same realm as making up hats with NFL team logos on it (or even their likeness -- it doesn't have to be exact) and selling them without consent of the NFL or the teams represented.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on April 22, 2018, 12:22:19 AM
Actually, rather than a copyright issue, this would be a trademark infringement, since the Wacky Packages logo is a registered trademark of Topps.  And for those that don't know, you cannot get copyright protection for the same thing you're trademarking.  So, the name is trademarked, but in most cases, the artwork on the stickers themselves are copyrighted.  It can get a bit complicated, certainly, but there you have it.

Interestingly, it would appear that Topps' trademark is what is referred to as a "word mark" meaning that it is for the use of the word "Wacky Packages" in connection to adhesive stickers (they have separate trademarks for the digital and clothing categories).  By "word mark" that means that they don't claim any trademark over the particular STYLE of the logo itself, lest they could go after many of the other folks who utilize similar style of logos.  They could have attempted to file a trademark for "Wacky Packages" in a thick bordered style of yellow lettering with a thick black border, and that would protect against someone infringing on the style of their trademark. 

But yeah, at the end of the day, someone selling "Wacky Packages Boxes" stickers is clearly inviting a trademark infringement case against them.  Whether or not that Topps actually pursues it is something else entirely.

Since they used the exact font for "Wacky Packages" that I'm sure is a Topps copyright, I'll bet Topps would still have a problem with this set.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: quas on April 22, 2018, 03:46:43 AM
Perhaps Topps' non-pursuit of Wacky patent/trademark infringements is consistent with their general attitude of not seeming to care all that much about Wacky Packages in the first place any more.  Now if there was a patent/trademark infringement of GPK or sports cards, Topps' attitude might be very different.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 22, 2018, 05:40:44 AM
If anyone hasn't seen the site's LW3 page, it's interesting reading:

http://www.wackypackages.org/unpublished/LW3.html

That is a very full description for a very 'mysterious' set.  I think there is little mystery there.  Now. of they find out if Pupsi was pulled or added, that would be awesome  :]
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 22, 2018, 05:44:42 AM
Yes, my point exactly. The description from one of the $250 sets follows below. I didn't bother to see how many sets have been sold on ebay but I would consider this deceptive advertising given there is almost always at least one auction running and now available in the store with no apparent limit, or not an indicated limit anyway,  to the quantity. How's that for a run-on sentence? :P

"The Ultra rare 2011 Lost Wacky 3rd Series set of 27/27 stickers with 9-card McSnoremick checklist puzzle.


This set is in NEW condition, still in it's original two sealed pack.

This set even comes with both lost gums cards as well as the very rare insert card.

The solo pictures are to show you exactly what is inside the 2 sealed packs.

These will be shipped priority insured.

THESE ARE VERY RARE AND YOU DO NOT SEE THEM VERY OFTEN."

Wow, that last sentence is really an indictment of the deception in this auction, especially sine they were currently printing them and had unlimited potential for quantities made.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on April 22, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
Wow, that last sentence is really an indictment of the deception in this auction, especially sine they were currently printing them and had unlimited potential for quantities made.

Exactly!

It's not a 1909S-VDB penny that hasn't been minted in over a 100 years and will never be minted again.  It's a "we can print it anytime we want to find a sucker who's willing to pay $75 (or more)" item.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on April 22, 2018, 03:29:21 PM
I agree!  Here's my take on the whole thing (and my apologies if I wrote this before):

1.  I'm not sure who owns the rights to those images, but most likely Greg, so if he wants to put
out a set and have Matt help him out, more power to him.  I don't know Matt at all, can't say what type
of person he is.  If everything was done fairly and without issue, as a fan I'd love to see these
titles get printed on some nice card stock, ones that I can tuck away neatly in some pocket pages!
I'm not qualified enough to know about the "if's," though.

2.  Certain titles have to be questioned.  "Picky Stix" is definitely an old one of Dave's that had been
unreleased until a few ANS ago.  I'd hate to see anything get taken away or misused or misrepresented
by any of the great Topps artists that we have.

3.  The auctions that were shilled (or is it "schilled"? I keep thinking of Curt Schilling, the Red Sox pitcher)
were disgraceful and sad.  And deceitful.  Just call it what it is.  "Hey, we made a bootleg set of many
unreleased titles blah blah blah" and I'd be much more interested.

Just my three cents,
Paul

3. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: moron_chicken on April 22, 2018, 04:57:01 PM
"I'm not sure who owns the rights to those images, but most likely Greg"

Greg does not own the rights to those images.  I know this has been debated before but either Topps owns them or the person who currently owns a piece of the art used.  I know for the original Lost sets 1 & 2 Greg rounded up the art work from the respective owners so her could get high resolution scans.  I know because I own one of the pieces that was used, Gooya.  I would think legally they owe royalties to either Topps or the person who owns the respective art piece. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on April 22, 2018, 06:56:17 PM
well noted, thanks for that.  I'm still not sure if one owns the original art to any piece that gives him/her the
right to publish it or profit from it.  If it was submitted to Topps and Topps paid for it, they own the rights I would think?
They can later sell the artwork if they choose.

(And my apologies for starting any debate, I'm not trying to stir any embers, just hypothetically thinking of
the Lost Wacky projects specifically)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: JasonLiebig on April 22, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
Yeah, ownership of original artwork comes with ZERO explicit rights .  Owning the "rights" or in this case, the copyright, is totally separate from owning an original.   If Topps commissioned the work and the artist invoiced Topps for the work in question, chances are they own the rights to it. 

If these are rejected pieces that Topps never paid for, then the question of copyright is less clear.  Because who paid for or now owns the rights?   The most obvious person would be the original artist, unless they sold off the piece and all rights to it. 

So technically and legally, owning an original doesn't give you reproduction or publication rights.  BUT, in real world practice?  Ebay is awash with copyright infringement.  Somewhat reputable t-shirt dealers online are similarly awash with trademark and IP violations.  So... in actual practice, this debate is likely all a moot point.   Because regardless of the legality of it, they're doing it, and no one is probably going to stop them. 

The humor would be if someone else started blatantly ripping THEM off and producing bootlegs of THEIR bootlegs (and I realize this has already been brought up previously).  They would have little room to complain and no legal ground to stop them.  Even if ethically-speaking, it would be pretty low. 

Somewhere out there, someone who is looking at doing things the right way by pursuing legal licenses for usage of other people's IP, they're the folks who get kinda knocked by all of this behavior.  It dis-incentivizes that area of entrepreneurship. 






 
well noted, thanks for that.  I'm still not sure if one owns the original art to any piece that gives him/her the
right to publish it or profit from it.  If it was submitted to Topps and Topps paid for it, they own the rights I would think?
They can later sell the artwork if they choose.

(And my apologies for starting any debate, I'm not trying to stir any embers, just hypothetically thinking of
the Lost Wacky projects specifically)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: moron_chicken on April 23, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
"The humor would be if someone else started blatantly ripping THEM off and producing bootlegs of THEIR bootlegs (and I realize this has already been brought up previously).  They would have little room to complain and no legal ground to stop them.  Even if ethically-speaking, it would be pretty low. 
"


I would pay a lot of admission to watch this movie. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on April 23, 2018, 07:12:26 AM
Agreed! This kind of drama is usually reserved for the GPK audience. Get your popcorn out!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: mikecho on April 23, 2018, 10:06:23 AM
To get off the subject a little bit, I called Greg at the phone number on his Wackys website and told him about some a's and c's for said website. He seemed to be very receptive to me and said that he'd change them when he got the chance to do so. I know that he's a busy man, but I have faith that he'll do this. I'll keep an eye out, though, and see what happens.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 05, 2018, 03:47:34 AM
I saw there is a binder now for the Boxes Series 1 - 4. This looks very nice; but I won't be pursuing it due to the prohibitive cost of these cards. Even at the $99 per set price on the the web site; that equates to $5 per card which is not what I am willing to pay. $29 to $39 per set would have worked for these sets ; but that was not the path chosen.

Be patient. With everything, those who have to be the first to have something pay the most. Maybe eventually the prices will come down.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on May 26, 2018, 01:11:01 AM
Seems we have a new Ebay seller: Knights Collectibles

Lost Wacky Series 4 

Ebay Item #  163063541934   

Proof Set on Special Paper

5 Years In The making!

Lost Wacky Series 4 will be released later this year.

30 New Titles!

4 Star Wars Bonus Stickers!

3 New Ovary Show Variations!

Donald Trump!

Newly discovered art by Norm Saunders and Jay Lynch !

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 26, 2018, 05:42:35 AM
eBay auction: #163063541934
Looks like some colorized roughs, a piece of lifted Saunders art and who knows what else.
And using those 4 Star Wars titles? I wonder what kind of interest Disney would have in these? They are very protective of their properties.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on May 26, 2018, 08:47:55 AM
Haven't I recently seen "Feces" somewhere before?

And polka-dot panties?  Really?  I had my heart set on something a little more high-class such as silver, gold, or diamond panties.  Guess I'll have to wait for Lost Series 5.  :sad:
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on June 08, 2018, 06:28:55 PM
Looks like we will see a Wacky Packages Boxes Series 5 later this year.  There is a double sticker on the bay with the Black Label for the Series 5.  Very productive Bootleggers.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on June 21, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
:)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on June 21, 2018, 02:34:23 PM
So on Facebook there is a guy named Jason Hanks that posted photos a ton of sketch cards he's making using the Wacky Packages logo and the Old School toothpaste nameplate (from mine and Jay's design). These are for some kind of Lost Wackys set for Greg. I assume in pack or as some kind of special set. I posted to the guy that they are bootlegs, can't use those logos and he went off on my page in a post I made about my daughter's softball team (and a cute GPK style card I made for the girls) then went on the Garbage Pail Kids Underground site and went bonkers cursing me out and attacking me before they banned him. Apparently he also takes commissions from people, takes their money and never does the work and has been banned from GPK Facebook forums as well. In other words he's a dick. So watch out for his bootleg Wacky stuff. Straight stolen from Jay and myself.

I guess buying sketches, ludlows, or "new" stickers in general that don't come right from Topps are now all big gambles. I remember the colored in b&w sketch, and I remember someone faking ludlows.  Way to wreck the fun...…….
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 21, 2018, 04:32:15 PM
So on Facebook there is a guy named Jason Hanks that posted photos a ton of sketch cards he's making using the Wacky Packages logo and the Old School toothpaste nameplate (from mine and Jay's design).
these are the ones that are sketched on the puzzle side of old checklist cards?
looks like they put down a white surface, and put the modified wacky logo on it, along with your toothpaste tube.
there were several artists doing these.
iirc they first showed up at the spring philly show?

(https://s22.postimg.cc/4eewptew1/Screen_Shot_2018-06-21_at_7.28.49_PM.png)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 22, 2018, 06:04:01 AM
Granted, this nonsense is getting out of hand, though it isn't very surprising.  (And always seems to be spinning around the same spider cleverly positioned in the center of its web.)

But then and again, hasn't Topps opened themselves up for just such nonsense?  I would think sketch cards would be the easiest thing to imitate.  I have tried - unsuccessfully thus far, in my strict opinion - to paint a parody that has that distinct and singular Wacky look and feel.  It's difficult.  A sketch card, though - particularly a black and white sketch card rendered in black Sharpie - would be the easiest thing in the world to forge and slap an "artist's name" onto.  Sketch artists vary from year-to-year and series-to-series.  Unless I did some major digging, I would be very hard pressed to ascertain whether a particular sketch artist was legitimate or not.

There's something to be said about sticking to the basics and not over-expanding.

Like RawGoo said, everything's now a "gamble."

On another note, I believe that a few of the "Lost" Wackys are on par - or even better than - some of the official Wackys during the past few years.  Simply put, they have more of the original Wacky "flavor" and/or "spirit."  Thus said, it seems almost inevitable that someone would step in to take advantage of this market - a void that Topps left open.  Last year, Topps could have made a deal with Neil Camera and his Halloween set, thereby satisfying fans with nice, simple parodies on par with original Wackys.  Instead, though, we got...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/cuqm6i2uf/ARTGPK-_STIC-17_GPK-_TF159.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cuqm6i2uf/)

Need I say anything more?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on June 22, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
Granted, this nonsense is getting out of hand, though it isn't very surprising.  (And always seems to be spinning around the same spider cleverly positioned in the center of its web.)

But then and again, hasn't Topps opened themselves up for just such nonsense?  I would think sketch cards would be the easiest thing to imitate.  I have tried - unsuccessfully thus far, in my strict opinion - to paint a parody that has that distinct and singular Wacky look and feel.  It's difficult.  A sketch card, though - particularly a black and white sketch card rendered in black Sharpie - would be the easiest thing in the world to forge and slap an "artist's name" onto.  Sketch artists vary from year-to-year and series-to-series.  Unless I did some major digging, I would be very hard pressed to ascertain whether a particular sketch artist was legitimate or not.

There's something to be said about sticking to the basics and not over-expanding.

Like RawGoo said, everything's now a "gamble."

On another note, I believe that a few of the "Lost" Wackys are on par - or even better than - some of the official Wackys during the past few years.  Simply put, they have more of the original Wacky "flavor" and/or "spirit."  Thus said, it seems almost inevitable that someone would step in to take advantage of this market - a void that Topps left open.  Last year, Topps could have made a deal with Neil Camera and his Halloween set, thereby satisfying fans with nice, simple parodies on par with original Wackys.  Instead, though, we got...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/cuqm6i2uf/ARTGPK-_STIC-17_GPK-_TF159.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cuqm6i2uf/)

Need I say anything more?

It doesn't matter if you feel there is a void in material the bottom line is you can't steal other people's art or intellectual property for your own benefit. Definitely doing a new Old School set for this year and I suspect there will be a few other WP products coming down the pike.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: MoldRush on June 22, 2018, 04:40:45 PM
So on Facebook there is a guy named Jason Hanks that posted photos a ton of sketch cards he's making using the Wacky Packages logo and the Old School toothpaste nameplate (from mine and Jay's design). These are for some kind of Lost Wackys set for Greg. I assume in pack or as some kind of special set. I posted to the guy that they are bootlegs, can't use those logos and he went off on my page in a post I made about my daughter's softball team (and a cute GPK style card I made for the girls) then went on the Garbage Pail Kids Underground site and went bonkers cursing me out and attacking me before they banned him. Apparently he also takes commissions from people, takes their money and never does the work and has been banned from GPK Facebook forums as well. In other words he's a dick. So watch out for his bootleg Wacky stuff. Straight stolen from Jay and myself.
Never ceases to amaze me how the wrongdoers so quickly and naturally go on the offensive and attack and vilify you simply for calling them out on their assholery.  There are sooooooo many delusional MFers out there.  Scary.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on June 22, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
Rob, most of the Trumpocracy titles like the one you posted were not submitted by us regulars.  I think I speak for most of the "submitters" that we tried to make them more like products in the Wacky style.  There were definitely a lot of clunkers towards the end of that run, but I hope we can resurrect the Alternate Facts or any of those subsets, there are so many great possibilities for parodies with all the news happening.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on June 22, 2018, 06:07:17 PM
Rob, most of the Trumpocracy titles like the one you posted were not submitted by us regulars.  I think I speak for most of the "submitters" that we tried to make them more like products in the Wacky style.  There were definitely a lot of clunkers towards the end of that run, but I hope we can resurrect the Alternate Facts or any of those subsets, there are so many great possibilities for parodies with all the news happening.

I would prefer that politics be avoided in future Wackys.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on June 22, 2018, 06:10:53 PM
Agreed, I think we all feel like that.  I was more referring to stuff such as the "Samantha Bee Dictionary"
or anything like that, news stories for people that I won't make any comment about nor do they deserve
any recognition LOL.

Oops, politics.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on June 23, 2018, 03:30:01 AM
I hate it when wackies are used by Topps to advance a particular political agenda. That is subverting and degrading a precious memory. Don't mess with my wackys!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 23, 2018, 10:18:51 AM
It doesn't matter if you feel there is a void in material the bottom line is you can't steal other people's art or intellectual property for your own benefit. Definitely doing a new Old School set for this year and I suspect there will be a few other WP products coming down the pike.

SlamJim,

I am not trying to defend Jason Hanks and his "assholery" (great word, by the way, MoldRush,) nor was I trying to imply that it is okay for anybody to forge art and profit from it for any reason.  What Hanks is doing is wrong, wrong, wrong, and yes, it must suck and I'm sure nobody here can blame you (and others) for getting pissed.  (Nor is it okay for others to reproduce somebody's art and slap the name "Lost Wackys" across the package.)  And then for Hanks to retaliate and come back at you in the manner that he did... well, I'd be livid, too, and probably entertain serious thoughts about searching him out and giving him a few whacks upside the head with a Wiffle ball bat.  (That or driving him out of his mind by signing him up for a hundred magazine subscriptions, pizza deliveries, anonymous complaint letters from neighbors, etc., etc., etc..)

Art forgery has been going on for centuries and will continue to go on for centuries to come.  And there really is no way around it.  It can be made more difficult, however.  Is Topps policing the playing field, however?  No.  (When I say Topps, I mean the few individuals making the ultimate final decisions, not the peripheral artists and concept writers.)  Did Topps crack down on the Lost Wackys?  No.  They're still out there.  One can bid on them this very second.  The only thing that was cracked down upon was the shilling, and this was done by eBay. To be honest, I wonder if Topps really cares that much about Wacky Packages at all?  I see little or no active promotion (yet I receive baseball card promotions everyday.)  More often than not, WP are not their own separate entity any longer, but instead lumped under the GPK banner.  I'd even go so far as to say that if you and a few other people didn't push for Wackys, there would probably be little or no Wackys at all.  In fact, I would bet money on this (and I'm not a betting man.)  Again, Topps really doesn't seem to care.  Wackys are not something even left on the back burner, but rather in a bowl in the back of the fridge.

A couple towns over from me, there is a small community with a revitalized "Main Street."  Rather than let it languish, though, the town actively fosters and promotes businesses and events.  They show films in the park, have a weekend farmer's market, close off streets and hold book signing events, have parades, and hold concerts in a glorious old theater with a stained glass ceiling (to name but a few things.)  I have attended many concerts there - Kansas, Jethro Tull, Renaissance, America - as well as frequent many of the community shops.  The streets are well-lit, free of trash and graffiti, and well-policed.  Sound familiar?  One finds these revitalized towns scattered along the east coast.  What's more, I spend my money there.

However, what if this town stopped caring?  What if they no longer promoted and hosted events?  What if they no longer were proactive, but rather looked the other way and focused on other interests?  All too soon, the town would become a veritable shit hole.  What's more, you would have more of a criminal element moving in.  This is the kind of "void" I am referring to.  If Topps refuses to be proactive when it comes to Wackys - I mean, fully embrace Wackys and give them equal attention as any other of their franchises - then they should expect the rats to come out of the woodwork.  Its inevitable.  I'm not saying that creeps like Jason Hanks are justified in doing what they're doing - not at all.  But apathy is only paving the way for just such people to operate freely and unfettered.

Topps should be embracing your sets, Neil Camera's sets, and any other artist who wishes to contribute a decent set.  Topps should be embracing the elements that made Wackys strong, great, and funny back in the 70s, as well as their millennium renaissance.  Topps should be putting Wackys back in loaves of bread and cereal boxes.  (As a teacher who hands out Wackys as incentives, I can tell you that my kids love them.  Yet how on earth would my kids even know about them if it wasn't for me handing them out?  It's not as if there are any advertisements for them.  It's not as if they walk into Walmart or Target and spot a placard stating, "Hey, kids!  Wacky Packages right this way!")  Topps should be making deals with retailers and cereal companies to manufacture exclusive boxes: "Frosted Flakes" featured on one side; "Frosted Snakes" featured on the the other.  Topps should be licensing mini plastic figures of WP characters.  Unlike Disney, most companies do not have a problem with WP.  They are free advertising.  Again, FREE ADVERTISING.  I could be mistaken, but I would think that Pepsi would definitely embrace a limited edition "Pupsi" can.  It would make people warmly laugh and smile.  It would place their product directly into people's hands (and the people's money directly into Pepsi's coffers.)  Topps should also be actively protecting their property and going after the bootleggers and forgers.

And yet, Topps isn't doing any of this.  Instead, we get pink borders (golly gee whiz!) or medallions or relics that 99.9% of kids cannot even afford.  I am not a businessman or mathematician, however I would think that millions of kids would equate to millions of dollars (even if every kid only parted with one dollar.)

Again, what child cares about the following?  Why would they care about it?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/63fcv34k7/ARTGPK-_STIC-17_GPK-_TF159.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/63fcv34k7/)

Seriously?  What adult cares about it either?  I, for one, don't.  It's not as if it has mass market appeal.

And I really don't believe that Topps gives a shit, either.  And when you don't give a shit, that's when things start to fall apart.

Rob

By the way, looking forward to your next set.  At least a few people still care.  Thank you. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 23, 2018, 10:27:51 AM
Rob, most of the Trumpocracy titles like the one you posted were not submitted by us regulars.  I think I speak for most of the "submitters" that we tried to make them more like products in the Wacky style.  There were definitely a lot of clunkers towards the end of that run, but I hope we can resurrect the Alternate Facts or any of those subsets, there are so many great possibilities for parodies with all the news happening.

Paul,

I understand where you are coming from - and there were some really good Trumpocracy titles.  I choose that particular title to stress my point, namely that Wackyland is slowly degenerating into a ghetto - complete with a criminal element, a direct result of Topps' apathy.

And trust me, I do appreciate that you and others do care and try your best to adhere to only the highest Wacky standards.

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on June 23, 2018, 11:03:35 AM
Dave (SJ),

Stealing is stealing and you are correct!

"you are entitled to the facts, just not your own."

#StayWacky

If they keep it up they will be in Jail-O ..... HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on June 23, 2018, 07:48:14 PM
SlamJim,

I am not trying to defend Jason Hanks and his "assholery" (great word, by the way, MoldRush,) nor was I trying to imply that it is okay for anybody to forge art and profit from it for any reason.  What Hanks is doing is wrong, wrong, wrong, and yes, it must suck and I'm sure nobody here can blame you (and others) for getting pissed.  (Nor is it okay for others to reproduce somebody's art and slap the name "Lost Wackys" across the package.)  And then for Hanks to retaliate and come back at you in the manner that he did... well, I'd be livid, too, and probably entertain serious thoughts about searching him out and giving him a few whacks upside the head with a Wiffle ball bat.  (That or driving him out of his mind by signing him up for a hundred magazine subscriptions, pizza deliveries, anonymous complaint letters from neighbors, etc., etc., etc..)

Art forgery has been going on for centuries and will continue to go on for centuries to come.  And there really is no way around it.  It can be made more difficult, however.  Is Topps policing the playing field, however?  No.  (When I say Topps, I mean the few individuals making the ultimate final decisions, not the peripheral artists and concept writers.)  Did Topps crack down on the Lost Wackys?  No.  They're still out there.  One can bid on them this very second.  The only thing that was cracked down upon was the shilling, and this was done by eBay. To be honest, I wonder if Topps really cares that much about Wacky Packages at all?  I see little or no active promotion (yet I receive baseball card promotions everyday.)  More often than not, WP are not their own separate entity any longer, but instead lumped under the GPK banner.  I'd even go so far as to say that if you and a few other people didn't push for Wackys, there would probably be little or no Wackys at all.  In fact, I would bet money on this (and I'm not a betting man.)  Again, Topps really doesn't seem to care.  Wackys are not something even left on the back burner, but rather in a bowl in the back of the fridge.

A couple towns over from me, there is a small community with a revitalized "Main Street."  Rather than let it languish, though, the town actively fosters and promotes businesses and events.  They show films in the park, have a weekend farmer's market, close off streets and hold book signing events, have parades, and hold concerts in a glorious old theater with a stained glass ceiling (to name but a few things.)  I have attended many concerts there - Kansas, Jethro Tull, Renaissance, America - as well as frequent many of the community shops.  The streets are well-lit, free of trash and graffiti, and well-policed.  Sound familiar?  One finds these revitalized towns scattered along the east coast.  What's more, I spend my money there.

However, what if this town stopped caring?  What if they no longer promoted and hosted events?  What if they no longer were proactive, but rather looked the other way and focused on other interests?  All too soon, the town would become a veritable shit hole.  What's more, you would have more of a criminal element moving in.  This is the kind of "void" I am referring to.  If Topps refuses to be proactive when it comes to Wackys - I mean, fully embrace Wackys and give them equal attention as any other of their franchises - then they should expect the rats to come out of the woodwork.  Its inevitable.  I'm not saying that creeps like Jason Hanks are justified in doing what they're doing - not at all.  But apathy is only paving the way for just such people to operate freely and unfettered.

Topps should be embracing your sets, Neil Camera's sets, and any other artist who wishes to contribute a decent set.  Topps should be embracing the elements that made Wackys strong, great, and funny back in the 70s, as well as their millennium renaissance.  Topps should be putting Wackys back in loaves of bread and cereal boxes.  (As a teacher who hands out Wackys as incentives, I can tell you that my kids love them.  Yet how on earth would my kids even know about them if it wasn't for me handing them out?  It's not as if there are any advertisements for them.  It's not as if they walk into Walmart or Target and spot a placard stating, "Hey, kids!  Wacky Packages right this way!")  Topps should be making deals with retailers and cereal companies to manufacture exclusive boxes: "Frosted Flakes" featured on one side; "Frosted Snakes" featured on the the other.  Topps should be licensing mini plastic figures of WP characters.  Unlike Disney, most companies do not have a problem with WP.  They are free advertising.  Again, FREE ADVERTISING.  I could be mistaken, but I would think that Pepsi would definitely embrace a limited edition "Pupsi" can.  It would make people warmly laugh and smile.  It would place their product directly into people's hands (and the people's money directly into Pepsi's coffers.)  Topps should also be actively protecting their property and going after the bootleggers and forgers.

And yet, Topps isn't doing any of this.  Instead, we get pink borders (golly gee whiz!) or medallions or relics that 99.9% of kids cannot even afford.  I am not a businessman or mathematician, however I would think that millions of kids would equate to millions of dollars (even if every kid only parted with one dollar.)

Again, what child cares about the following?  Why would they care about it?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/63fcv34k7/ARTGPK-_STIC-17_GPK-_TF159.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/63fcv34k7/)

Seriously?  What adult cares about it either?  I, for one, don't.  It's not as if it has mass market appeal.

And I really don't believe that Topps gives a shit, either.  And when you don't give a shit, that's when things start to fall apart.

Rob

By the way, looking forward to your next set.  At least a few people still care.  Thank you.

Hey, real quick on just a couple of these things, you are speaking on a few things in this that you really don't know some facts on so I will fill you in on it a bit. Topps did go after the Lost Wackys. They keep changing their names and putting them up. They are going after them again. Someone here tipped them off and I ended up getting a phone call from Topps a number of months back asking me if some of my art was being used. So someone there is on it.

Also, it's a two way street for advertising. You can't just stick your cards into loaves of bread or into cereal if those companies don't want you. Topps has a ton of licenses going for GPK right now with more coming. Wacky Packs is a much tougher license. I'm sure Topps would love to do any of that you mentioned and so much more. Someone else is going to have to want to get that license and feel they can make money off it.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrDeal on June 24, 2018, 03:33:49 AM
SlamJim,

I am not trying to defend Jason Hanks and his "assholery" (great word, by the way, MoldRush,) nor was I trying to imply that it is okay for anybody to forge art and profit from it for any reason.  What Hanks is doing is wrong, wrong, wrong, and yes, it must suck and I'm sure nobody here can blame you (and others) for getting pissed.  (Nor is it okay for others to reproduce somebody's art and slap the name "Lost Wackys" across the package.)  And then for Hanks to retaliate and come back at you in the manner that he did... well, I'd be livid, too, and probably entertain serious thoughts about searching him out and giving him a few whacks upside the head with a Wiffle ball bat.  (That or driving him out of his mind by signing him up for a hundred magazine subscriptions, pizza deliveries, anonymous complaint letters from neighbors, etc., etc., etc..)

Art forgery has been going on for centuries and will continue to go on for centuries to come.  And there really is no way around it.  It can be made more difficult, however.  Is Topps policing the playing field, however?  No.  (When I say Topps, I mean the few individuals making the ultimate final decisions, not the peripheral artists and concept writers.)  Did Topps crack down on the Lost Wackys?  No.  They're still out there.  One can bid on them this very second.  The only thing that was cracked down upon was the shilling, and this was done by eBay. To be honest, I wonder if Topps really cares that much about Wacky Packages at all?  I see little or no active promotion (yet I receive baseball card promotions everyday.)  More often than not, WP are not their own separate entity any longer, but instead lumped under the GPK banner.  I'd even go so far as to say that if you and a few other people didn't push for Wackys, there would probably be little or no Wackys at all.  In fact, I would bet money on this (and I'm not a betting man.)  Again, Topps really doesn't seem to care.  Wackys are not something even left on the back burner, but rather in a bowl in the back of the fridge.

A couple towns over from me, there is a small community with a revitalized "Main Street."  Rather than let it languish, though, the town actively fosters and promotes businesses and events.  They show films in the park, have a weekend farmer's market, close off streets and hold book signing events, have parades, and hold concerts in a glorious old theater with a stained glass ceiling (to name but a few things.)  I have attended many concerts there - Kansas, Jethro Tull, Renaissance, America - as well as frequent many of the community shops.  The streets are well-lit, free of trash and graffiti, and well-policed.  Sound familiar?  One finds these revitalized towns scattered along the east coast.  What's more, I spend my money there.

However, what if this town stopped caring?  What if they no longer promoted and hosted events?  What if they no longer were proactive, but rather looked the other way and focused on other interests?  All too soon, the town would become a veritable shit hole.  What's more, you would have more of a criminal element moving in.  This is the kind of "void" I am referring to.  If Topps refuses to be proactive when it comes to Wackys - I mean, fully embrace Wackys and give them equal attention as any other of their franchises - then they should expect the rats to come out of the woodwork.  Its inevitable.  I'm not saying that creeps like Jason Hanks are justified in doing what they're doing - not at all.  But apathy is only paving the way for just such people to operate freely and unfettered.

Topps should be embracing your sets, Neil Camera's sets, and any other artist who wishes to contribute a decent set.  Topps should be embracing the elements that made Wackys strong, great, and funny back in the 70s, as well as their millennium renaissance.  Topps should be putting Wackys back in loaves of bread and cereal boxes.  (As a teacher who hands out Wackys as incentives, I can tell you that my kids love them.  Yet how on earth would my kids even know about them if it wasn't for me handing them out?  It's not as if there are any advertisements for them.  It's not as if they walk into Walmart or Target and spot a placard stating, "Hey, kids!  Wacky Packages right this way!")  Topps should be making deals with retailers and cereal companies to manufacture exclusive boxes: "Frosted Flakes" featured on one side; "Frosted Snakes" featured on the the other.  Topps should be licensing mini plastic figures of WP characters.  Unlike Disney, most companies do not have a problem with WP.  They are free advertising.  Again, FREE ADVERTISING.  I could be mistaken, but I would think that Pepsi would definitely embrace a limited edition "Pupsi" can.  It would make people warmly laugh and smile.  It would place their product directly into people's hands (and the people's money directly into Pepsi's coffers.)  Topps should also be actively protecting their property and going after the bootleggers and forgers.

And yet, Topps isn't doing any of this.  Instead, we get pink borders (golly gee whiz!) or medallions or relics that 99.9% of kids cannot even afford.  I am not a businessman or mathematician, however I would think that millions of kids would equate to millions of dollars (even if every kid only parted with one dollar.)

Again, what child cares about the following?  Why would they care about it?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/63fcv34k7/ARTGPK-_STIC-17_GPK-_TF159.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/63fcv34k7/)

Seriously?  What adult cares about it either?  I, for one, don't.  It's not as if it has mass market appeal.

And I really don't believe that Topps gives a shit, either.  And when you don't give a shit, that's when things start to fall apart.

Rob

By the way, looking forward to your next set.  At least a few people still care.  Thank you.

This should go out as an open letter to Topps Staff. Well said! 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 24, 2018, 05:44:59 AM
Hey, real quick on just a couple of these things, you are speaking on a few things in this that you really don't know some facts on so I will fill you in on it a bit. Topps did go after the Lost Wackys. They keep changing their names and putting them up. They are going after them again. Someone here tipped them off and I ended up getting a phone call from Topps a number of months back asking me if some of my art was being used. So someone there is on it.

Also, it's a two way street for advertising. You can't just stick your cards into loaves of bread or into cereal if those companies don't want you. Topps has a ton of licenses going for GPK right now with more coming. Wacky Packs is a much tougher license. I'm sure Topps would love to do any of that you mentioned and so much more. Someone else is going to have to want to get that license and feel they can make money off it.
How do you know someone from here tipped them off?  Many of you artists who have been working for Topps and have been well aware of their activities hadn't said anything to Topps all this time?  My opinion is that topps and its employees have been so lax in enforcing the copyright that they have invited this infringement.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 24, 2018, 06:16:04 AM
Hey, real quick on just a couple of these things, you are speaking on a few things in this that you really don't know some facts on so I will fill you in on it a bit. Topps did go after the Lost Wackys. They keep changing their names and putting them up. They are going after them again. Someone here tipped them off and I ended up getting a phone call from Topps a number of months back asking me if some of my art was being used. So someone there is on it.

Also, it's a two way street for advertising. You can't just stick your cards into loaves of bread or into cereal if those companies don't want you. Topps has a ton of licenses going for GPK right now with more coming. Wacky Packs is a much tougher license. I'm sure Topps would love to do any of that you mentioned and so much more. Someone else is going to have to want to get that license and feel they can make money off it.

You are right.  I don't know all of the facts - and thanks for enlightening me.  I can only go by what I see and hear in the world around me, as well as this forum.  Yes, I now remember you mentioning getting a phone call.  However, if you know who is changing their eBay name, and I know who is changing their eBay name, I doubt it would take any real effort for Topps to figure out who is changing their eBay name.  And yet, they are still operating.  Whats more, they are expanding.  Along with "Lost Series 3," there is now Lord knows how many "Box" series, as well as the brand new "Lost Series 4!"

(https://s15.postimg.cc/d4vu0umqf/s-l1600-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d4vu0umqf/)

And as they expand, they keep crossing this line and that line.  They outright stole George Wright's "Miracle Warp."  Greed knows no bounds.  And now other - entirely different - vendors are auctioning "Lost Wacky" cards.  And now we have Jason Hanks stealing your art, as well.  Dude, with all due respect, this shit isn't stopping - it's growing and growing.  If you get enough forged sketch cards out there, I would think the value of all sketch cards would decrease.  That, or people will become hesitant about buying sketch cards.  And where is this going to put you?  Not a pretty place.  Think about it.  Granted, people can play it safe and only buy sketch cards from Topps.  But most of these people are dealers who are expecting to resell the cards.  And who are they going to sell them to?  Me?  Why would I buy them if I have doubts as to their legitimacy?  I would suggest that Topps do something more such as applying a small holographic label to each sketch card.  This may not stop the forgery, but it would make it more of a pain in the ass for the forgers.

I would also suggest that Topps actively pursue licensing arrangements as opposed to sitting on their ass.  You're absolutely right.  Topps cannot cram a Wacky into every loaf of bread or cereal box at whim.  But you know what, though?  Bread and cereal companies aren't going to come to Topps.  We could wait a hundred years, and this probably wouldn't happen.  Instead, Topps should approach them: Bread, cereal, candy, cookie, snack, ice cream (to name but a few) companies - any company that manufactures food that a child would eagerly cram into his or her mouth (which constitutes a rather sizeable portion of the supermarket.)  In addition, Topps should create a simple mythology or back story for the Wacky characters - similar to what was done with the McDonald's characters or Freakies back in the day.  Also, if Topps were to have cards in, say, cereal boxes, why not assign point values to the different cards - 10 points, 25 points, etc.?  Just a small number in a circle, nothing more.  And what would kids do with this information?  They'd come up with rules and invent their own games.  Wackys would now serve another purpose - besides simply being looked at and/or bound with rubberbands.  Lastly, as part of this, reissue - or update - some of the older ANS titles.  If Topps, indeed, is targeting the 8 - 10 year old group (which sometimes I strongly doubt,) why not reissue or update "Frosted Snakes" - being this title was issued before the 8 - 10 year old group was even born?  In other words, issue a cereal box set of attention-getting older cards (which most kids have never seen) featuring familiar, iconic characters, as well as some new cards (for old farts such as myself.)

I don't believe that Topps is doing nothing.  Instead, I believe they could be doing much, much more.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 24, 2018, 07:23:38 AM
And as they expand, they keep crossing this line and that line.  They outright stole George Wright's "Miracle Warp."  Greed knows no bounds.  And now other - entirely different - vendors are auctioning "Lost Wacky" cards.  And now we have Jason Hanks stealing your art, as well.  Dude, with all due respect, this shit isn't stopping - it's growing and growing.  If you get enough forged sketch cards out there, I would think the value of all sketch cards would decrease. 
just an fyi, but these sketch cards are not just a Jason Hanks thing. "Somebody" (ahem) created a pile of sketch card blanks on old checklist cards, using the well known Wacky typeface and the Jay/Dave toothpaste tube. The look and feel is certainly Old School/Binder puzzle piece. These blanks were farmed out to multiple artists for them to sketch on. I've seen at least four artists now.
Of course, these sketches 'mysteriously' first showed up at the Philly show.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: slamjim on June 24, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
How do you know someone from here tipped them off?  Many of you artists who have been working for Topps and have been well aware of their activities hadn't said anything to Topps all this time?  My opinion is that topps and its employees have been so lax in enforcing the copyright that they have invited this infringement.

I'm a freelancer not an employee and it's not my job to patrol Ebay for them. With that logic I'd say you and everyone else here also knew about them for a long time and also should be informing them I gave them all the info they asked when they contacted me though. I did tell them about this new guy and his bootlegs if that makes you feel better. No one invites infringement. The person(s) doing the infringing are ALWAYS in the wrong.

The only person at Topps I speak to is the editor, Colin Walton and this stuff isn't in his job description either. This is strictly the law department at Topps responsibility.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 25, 2018, 03:38:34 AM
I'm a freelancer not an employee and it's not my job to patrol Ebay for them. With that logic I'd say you and everyone else here also knew about them for a long time and also should be informing them I gave them all the info they asked when they contacted me though. I did tell them about this new guy and his bootlegs if that makes you feel better. No one invites infringement. The person(s) doing the infringing are ALWAYS in the wrong.

The only person at Topps I speak to is the editor, Colin Walton and this stuff isn't in his job description either. This is strictly the law department at Topps responsibility.
How do you know it was someone from this forum who tipped them off?  I retired from patrolling ebay years ago.  I suspect "someone" is printing fake 1st series ludlows too but again, there is no reward in patrolling for this hobby.  Collectors have no issues with hanging out with scoundrels so the bar is set pretty low.  I know of many companies who patrol ebay looking for grey market products of their brands.  It is one of the most popular places to move stuff.  If Topps needs to be tipped off on obvious infringement of their copyrights on ebay, then they don't care or don't have a clue and both are invitations for infringement.  Obviously I am not using the word "invite" in the proactive sense.  topps has allowed the wild west to settle so it is the wild west we have.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 25, 2018, 03:45:06 AM
I'm a freelancer not an employee and it's not my job to patrol Ebay for them. With that logic I'd say you and everyone else here also knew about them for a long time and also should be informing them I gave them all the info they asked when they contacted me though. I did tell them about this new guy and his bootlegs if that makes you feel better. No one invites infringement. The person(s) doing the infringing are ALWAYS in the wrong.

The only person at Topps I speak to is the editor, Colin Walton and this stuff isn't in his job description either. This is strictly the law department at Topps responsibility.
Wouldn't free lancers have a vested interest in wanting to report this stuff to topps? It can only hurt free lancers if all money waiting to be spent on wackys is spent on fraudulent wackys.  Less money spent on real wackys means fewer projects for the free lancers. Somebody must be getting a kickback here as topps is being too blatantly stupid and careless about this.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on June 25, 2018, 05:33:08 AM
How do you know it was someone from this forum who tipped them off?  I retired from patrolling ebay years ago.  I suspect "someone" is printing fake 1st series ludlows too but again, there is no reward in patrolling for this hobby.  Collectors have no issues with hanging out with scoundrels so the bar is set pretty low.  I know of many companies who patrol ebay looking for grey market products of their brands.  It is one of the most popular places to move stuff.  If Topps needs to be tipped off on obvious infringement of their copyrights on ebay, then they don't care or don't have a clue and both are invitations for infringement.  Obviously I am not using the word "invite" in the proactive sense.  topps has allowed the wild west to settle so it is the wild west we have.

While I wait for some of the PSA Wackys I am missing to show up at reasonable prices, I had been considering pursuing some ludlow auctions, but, being unable to be sure they aren't recent fakes, I decided to buy some Rittenhouse Archives cards instead.  While this doesn't impact Topps' bottom line, concerns of fakes could hurt the value of legitimate ludlows on the secondary market.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 25, 2018, 05:59:44 AM
While I wait for some of the PSA Wackys I am missing to show up at reasonable prices, I had been considering pursuing some ludlow auctions, but, being unable to be sure they aren't recent fakes, I decided to buy some Rittenhouse Archives cards instead.  While this doesn't impact Topps' bottom line, concerns of fakes could hurt the value of legitimate ludlows on the secondary market.

There have been a few auctions recently on ebay that have had 1st series black luds for sale that looked almost too nice.  You have to wonder about NM copies of these showing up for sale.  It stinks that we have to worry about buying authentic pieces now with technology making it easier and easier to produce high level fakes that are really hard to distinguish from authentic copies.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on June 25, 2018, 06:34:08 AM
There have been a few auctions recently on ebay that have had 1st series black luds for sale that looked almost too nice.  You have to wonder about NM copies of these showing up for sale.  It stinks that we have to worry about buying authentic pieces now with technology making it easier and easier to produce high level fakes that are really hard to distinguish from authentic copies.

Series 2 blacks and reds, also.  A lot of slightly OC cards, or cards with tilt, but clean and with good corners, are suddenly showing up with ludlow backs.  Too good to be true, and now I won't buy any ludlows, not even graded ones, because stuff slips past PSA.  Like you said, technology has made it a lot easier to produce high level fakes, and I'm actually now even wary of graded cards with recent PSA numbers. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 25, 2018, 10:26:14 AM
See?  More and more, this nonsense is proving detrimental to the hobby.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 25, 2018, 10:46:39 AM
See?  More and more, this nonsense is proving detrimental to the hobby.

Anyone who prints fakes can do it. I don't care. They get to live with the guilt of making money off of collectors who don't know any better. If you have pointed it out, let the world know. These frauds who print fakes won't make any money. They'll realize what they've done. And, guess what? Why would they print any more? Anyone who actually bids on these fakes is uneducated and not a real collector.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 25, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Anyone who prints fakes can do it. I don't care. They get to live with the guilt of making money off of collectors who don't know any better. If you have pointed it out, let the world know. These frauds who print fakes won't make any money. They'll realize what they've done. And, guess what? Why would they print any more? Anyone who actually bids on these fakes is uneducated and not a real collector.

But they are making money.  Lots of it!  Why should they stop?

And I highly doubt they are feeling guilty as they saunter along to the bank with a big s--- eating grin plastered across their faces as they think about taking a cruise come August.  You are I might feel guilty if we pulled such a stunt, but others?  Well, some people don't feel a thing, especially pity or remorse (just like the Terminator!)

And uneducated collectors - say, like newbies - deserve to be ripped off?  (Well, baptism by fire is one way to learn, I suppose.)  And, hey, remember:  At one time, all of us were uneducated newbies.

-----------------------------

Hey, I've an idea!  We're both creative, right?  Let's create the "lost" 17th Series using Photoshop!  33 spectacular, never-seen-before cards straight out of the pages of history!  If people fall for it, so what?  And if they're smart enough to realize what we did - and we do a superb job (or at least a better job than what was done on some of the PoDs) - so what?  People will buy them anyway!  Guaranteed, within a year you will have so much money that you'll be able to own every original Wacky title - PSA 10!  Or maybe, just maybe, the ever-elusive PSA 11!  Just think of it!

Let's begin with this VHS tape, shall we?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/i32upjsfb/46a38a21c2f12c33dd982e444153a1b4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i32upjsfb/)

Sincerely yours,

Mephistopheles (formerly known as Baked Bears)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 25, 2018, 01:56:22 PM
Join me, youngling, and we'll rule the Wacky universe together!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/i5mqcsohj/maxresdefaultjpg.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i5mqcsohj/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 25, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
But they are making money.  Lots of it!  Why should they stop?

And I highly doubt they are feeling guilty as they saunter along to the bank with a big s--- eating grin plastered across their faces as they think about taking a cruise come August.  You are I might feel guilty if we pulled such a stunt, but others?  Well, some people don't feel a thing, especially pity or remorse (just like the Terminator!)

And uneducated collectors - say, like newbies - deserve to be ripped off?  (Well, baptism by fire is one way to learn, I suppose.)  And, hey, remember:  At one time, all of us were uneducated newbies.

-----------------------------

Hey, I've an idea!  We're both creative, right?  Let's create the "lost" 17th Series using Photoshop!  33 spectacular, never-seen-before cards straight out of the pages of history!  If people fall for it, so what?  And if they're smart enough to realize what we did - and we do a superb job (or at least a better job than what was done on some of the PoDs) - so what?  People will buy them anyway!  Guaranteed, within a year you will have so much money that you'll be able to own every original Wacky title - PSA 10!  Or maybe, just maybe, the ever-elusive PSA 11!  Just think of it!

Let's begin with this VHS tape, shall we?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/i32upjsfb/46a38a21c2f12c33dd982e444153a1b4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i32upjsfb/)

Sincerely yours,

Mephistopheles (formerly known as Baked Bears)

All seriousness aside, that's actually an awesome parody.

What about Salem's Lot...? Salem's Bot??
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 25, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
Works for me!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bigtomi on June 26, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
that's actually an awesome parody.
I agree. I think I'd just extend the tag line under the one that's there: "by scaring the devil outta you!"
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 26, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
There have been a few auctions recently on ebay that have had 1st series black luds for sale that looked almost too nice.  You have to wonder about NM copies of these showing up for sale.  It stinks that we have to worry about buying authentic pieces now with technology making it easier and easier to produce high level fakes that are really hard to distinguish from authentic copies.
Buy one and check it out with a loupe....I am hearing there are fakes being printed by someone.  That is not infringement, that is fraud.  I hope finally someone who deserves it, goes to jail....
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 26, 2018, 07:01:51 PM
Anyone faking original series ludlows needs to be under the jail.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on June 27, 2018, 04:00:19 AM
I agree. I think I'd just extend the tag line under the one that's there: "by scaring the devil outta you!"

That is the perfect tag line, BigTomi.  Well done!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on June 27, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
Two years ago at the Allentown show a FAKE Red Ludlow showed up for one of the 1st couple of series.

I really felt bad for the person who had the card.


Collectables showed be just that - technology has allowed many to FAKE and STEAL and it only dilutes the value of the real products.  I have many rare and unique items.  I would be reallllly pissed off if someone started doing knock off Ratz and Cracked Animals die-cuts, for example, diluting the true value for one of these.

#StayWacky
#FederalPrisonForCounterfietors
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on June 28, 2018, 04:32:47 AM
Two years ago at the Allentown show a FAKE Red Ludlow showed up for one of the 1st couple of series.

I really felt bad for the person who had the card.


Collectables showed be just that - technology has allowed many to FAKE and STEAL and it only dilutes the value of the real products.  I have many rare and unique items.  I would be reallllly pissed off if someone started doing knock off Ratz and Cracked Animals die-cuts, for example, diluting the true value for one of these.

#StayWacky
#FederalPrisonForCounterfietors

Hopefully die-cuts would be too hard to fake, but who knows.  There's at least one person on ebay trying to get big bucks for what is obviously a repro Ratz - anyone but a total newbie would have to spot that.  I still have a similar card from 15 or so years ago (that was never intended to be mistaken for the real thing), think it cost me $10, and I put it in the pages with my punched set until I got a punched one.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 28, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
Two years ago at the Allentown show a FAKE Red Ludlow showed up for one of the 1st couple of series.

I really felt bad for the person who had the card.


Collectables showed be just that - technology has allowed many to FAKE and STEAL and it only dilutes the value of the real products.  I have many rare and unique items.  I would be reallllly pissed off if someone started doing knock off Ratz and Cracked Animals die-cuts, for example, diluting the true value for one of these.

#StayWacky
#FederalPrisonForCounterfietors
How was it determined the card was a fake?  Which title?  Who was the seller(rhetorical question but answer if possible anyway).
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 28, 2018, 06:59:27 PM
How was it determined the card was a fake?  Which title?  Who was the seller(rhetorical question but answer if possible anyway).

At the last Allentown show someone had a couple of 1st series ludlows I believed were fake because the ludlow printing ended short of the edge of the card, which did not make sense to me. So it seemed like a normal white back had the ludlow imprint stamped onto it or printed onto it, but it didn’t reach the edge of the card.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: ratchet007 on June 29, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
I remember those Dave. I believe you weren't the only one that thought they were suspicious.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on June 29, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
I remember those Dave. I believe you weren't the only one that thought they were suspicious.
Who was the seller?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 29, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
Who was the seller?

They were not sold at the show. The owner of them didn’t really discuss who he got them from, at least not with me.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on June 29, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
Who was the seller?

I wouldn't be surprised if Matt had some of those in Stock.


Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 01, 2018, 07:03:01 AM
Who is paying $150 for things like this?  It is acknowledged as a repro, but sold under the "Lost Wacky Packages" banner/brand.......  What really scares me is wondering what else can be printed now.  Hopefully actual die-cuts are too tough.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/263772280146?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137

What I find funny is that it is listed as a red ludlow, and the scan is a black ludlow.  Has anyone ever bought one to see if these stickers are kiss-cut?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 01, 2018, 08:11:27 AM
What I find funny is that it is listed as a red ludlow, and the scan is a black ludlow.  Has anyone ever bought one to see if these stickers are kiss-cut?

Matt gave me one Cracked and one Ratz at a show a year ago. He gave me white backs, and kiss-cut.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2018, 08:35:27 AM
Who is paying $150 for things like this?  It is acknowledged as a repro, but sold under the "Lost Wacky Packages" banner/brand.......  What really scares me is wondering what else can be printed now.  Hopefully actual die-cuts are too tough.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/263772280146?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137

What I find funny is that it is listed as a red ludlow, and the scan is a black ludlow.  Has anyone ever bought one to see if these stickers are kiss-cut?

Astounding, isn't it?  (Not necessarily surprising, though, considering what one individual was paying for the "Lost" diamonds.)  Even more ludicrous is the addition of the word "rare" in the description.  How can a freshly-printed reproduction be rare?

I, too, wonder what might be printed up next?  Green ludlows?  A misprint Run Tony with only 4 flying bullets instead of 5?  A "newly discovered" Grime with "dusty-greasy-heavy chunks?"  A 16th series Gillo Port with no copyright?  A "rare" Goodbye Kitty with yellow buttons instead of white buttons?

I also wonder how long this has been going on?  Years and years?  I've been following certain vendors for years who miraculously always seem to have a seemingly inexhaustible supply of "rarities."  This, of course, begs another question: How many cards in our collections are illegitimate?  We would all like to say none, obviously, but it does make one wonder. 

Or does it even matter to some people?

And speaking of high prices, the following single card just went for a little over $250:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ds26nnp47/s-l1600-8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ds26nnp47/)

Better yet, there's more to come!

5 Years in the Making!

Lost Wacky Series 4 will be released later this year.

30 New Titles!

4 Star Wars Bonus Stickers!
(Maybe Disney will intervene, being Topps legal dept.always seem to be off playing with themselves.)

3 New Ovary Show Variations!  (Just what we needed!)

(And best take a seat for this next one, RawGoo!)

Donald Trump!

Newly discovered art by Norm Saunders and Jay Lynch !

This is a proof set that is on special paper with no die cuts


For those of you who are going to criticize this unique, fabulous set - yet buy it anyway - I am offering the following ez-to-install program(s) that will enable you to slip in bids in the last fraction of a second!  Wow!  Must be seen to be believed!

Basic Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/10 of a second. (Price:$100)

Deluxe Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/100 of a second. (Price:$250)

Super Deluxe Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/1000 of a second. (Price:$500)

Premium Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/1,000,000 of a second. (Price:$1000)

Thank you for shopping and come back soon!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 01, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
Astounding, isn't it?  (Not necessarily surprising, though, considering what one individual was paying for the "Lost" diamonds.)  Even more ludicrous is the addition of the word "rare" in the description.  How can a freshly-printed reproduction be rare?
I believe it's the same individual that had the high bid on nearly all the silver, gold and diamonds.

seeing 'rare' on that repro auction did give me a great laugh this morning.

oh man, just noticed your 'auction snipe' info. Sounds totally worth it! LOL
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 01, 2018, 10:15:42 AM
Astounding, isn't it?  (Not necessarily surprising, though, considering what one individual was paying for the "Lost" diamonds.)  Even more ludicrous is the addition of the word "rare" in the description.  How can a freshly-printed reproduction be rare?

I, too, wonder what might be printed up next?  Green ludlows?  A misprint Run Tony with only 4 flying bullets instead of 5?  A "newly discovered" Grime with "dusty-greasy-heavy chunks?"  A 16th series Gillo Port with no copyright?  A "rare" Goodbye Kitty with yellow buttons instead of white buttons?

I also wonder how long this has been going on?  Years and years?  I've been following certain vendors for years who miraculously always seem to have a seemingly inexhaustible supply of "rarities."  This, of course, begs another question: How many cards in our collections are illegitimate?  We would all like to say none, obviously, but it does make one wonder. 

Or does it even matter to some people?

And speaking of high prices, the following single card just went for a little over $250:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ds26nnp47/s-l1600-8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ds26nnp47/)

Better yet, there's more to come!

5 Years in the Making!

Lost Wacky Series 4 will be released later this year.

30 New Titles!

4 Star Wars Bonus Stickers!
(Maybe Disney will intervene, being Topps legal dept.always seem to be off playing with themselves.)

3 New Ovary Show Variations!  (Just what we needed!)

(And best take a seat for this next one, RawGoo!)

Donald Trump!

Newly discovered art by Norm Saunders and Jay Lynch !

This is a proof set that is on special paper with no die cuts


For those of you who are going to criticize this unique, fabulous set - yet buy it anyway - I am offering the following ez-to-install program(s) that will enable you to slip in bids in the last fraction of a second!  Wow!  Must be seen to be believed!

Basic Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/10 of a second. (Price:$100)

Deluxe Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/100 of a second. (Price:$250)

Super Deluxe Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/1000 of a second. (Price:$500)

Premium Program: Allows you to slip in bids in the last 1/1,000,000 of a second. (Price:$1000)

Thank you for shopping and come back soon!

Faking vintage cards is nowhere near as easy as some people make it sound. They might look believable on eBay, but for those who have examined thousands of vintage wackys and are intimately familiar with their characteristics it is usually pretty easy to spot fakes.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: MoldRush on July 01, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
Faking vintage cards is nowhere near as easy as some people make it sound. They might look believable on eBay, but for those who have examined thousands of vintage wackys and are intimately familiar with their characteristics it is usually pretty easy to spot fakes.
Agreed, but you're thinking within this Forum community which consists of mostly savvy, experienced Wacky collectors and enthusiasts.  There must be a much larger outside market of folks who remember Wackys fondly enough to drop some ridiculous amounts of money for what may look like or be described as a rarity, but don't have the time or patience to become knowledgeable enough about the hobby to develop the trained, experienced eye necessary to spot fakes or homemades.  Still blows my mind that Topps isn't aggressively going after this.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 01, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
Faking vintage cards is nowhere near as easy as some people make it sound. They might look believable on eBay, but for those who have examined thousands of vintage wackys and are intimately familiar with their characteristics it is usually pretty easy to spot fakes.

Unfortunately, almost everything I buy nowadays is via the internet.  I miss being able to go to card shows, even the small monthly one they used to have in Rockville Centre.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Brian Mc on July 01, 2018, 11:19:48 AM
Still blows my mind that Topps isn't aggressively going after this.

There's no time. It's July... October is just around the corner... they have to get their legal team whipped into shape in preparation of shutting down another Halloween collection that could possibly sell 150 sets. Priorities!!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
oh man, just noticed your 'auction snipe' info. Sounds totally worth it! LOL

Patrick, eventually somebody is bound to do it.  Just a matter of time!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2018, 02:49:08 PM
Unfortunately, almost everything I buy nowadays is via the internet.  I miss being able to go to card shows, even the small monthly one they used to have in Rockville Centre.

And buying off of the internet is where things keep getting trickier and trickier.  I'd much rather hold the real thing in my hand and see it in person.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2018, 02:53:37 PM
There's no time. It's July... October is just around the corner... they have to get their legal team whipped into shape in preparation of shutting down another Halloween collection that could possibly sell 150 sets. Priorities!!

Dude, don't even say it!  Not even joking!

Neil did mention something about the possibility of a set of some sort this autumn.  Let's hope he figured out a way around the b---s--- that dealt us all such a blow last year.  Or maybe there's the possibility of a Halloween postcard set?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 01, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
And buying off of the internet is where things keep getting trickier and trickier.  I'd much rather hold the real thing in my hand and see it in person.

I’d much rather do that too, but everything is returnable on ebay.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2018, 03:58:51 PM
For Sale to Inexperienced Collectors Only!

(Because the experienced collectors always get all of the good stuff first.)

Ultra Rare "Run Tony" with Missing Flying Bullet!  $1500

Just found!  Only a Limited Secret Amount Produced!  45 Years in the Making!

Ever the prankster and knowing he could mess with collectors' minds decades into the future, Norm Saunders had a limited secret amount of Run Tony cards specially printed that depicted only four flying bullets, unlike the more familiar Run Tony cards featuring five flying bullets. When Topps discovered what Saunders had done, they halted production on all Run Tony cards, but alas, too late!

Note: This is not Photoshopped, however even if it was, heck, it's still cool anyway and definitely worth every penny!

Get 'em while supplies last!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ik39r0ojb/Rare_Run_Tony.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ik39r0ojb/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 07, 2018, 06:50:39 AM
Even better than a missing bullet, now we have mashups with 50's pulp art (are all the women from Saunders art maybe? I don't have a reference)

eBay auction: #163138214531
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 07, 2018, 07:11:52 AM
Even better than a missing bullet, now we have mashups with 50's pulp art (are all the women from Saunders art maybe? I don't have a reference)

eBay auction: #163138214531

That certainly looks like Saunders art, but I don't recognize any of the 6 women from my 54 trading card set.  Does anyone have the book that David Saunders released in 2009?  Perhaps these images were obtained from that?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 07, 2018, 07:37:31 AM
That certainly looks like Saunders art, but I don't recognize any of the 6 women from my 54 trading card set.  Does anyone have the book that David Saunders released in 2009?  Perhaps these images were obtained from that?
I was going to look through my book later and maybe Google-fu the images as well to find the sources
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 07, 2018, 07:43:39 AM
I was going to look through my book later and maybe Google-fu the images as well to find the sources

Google-fu?  Please forgive my ignorance   :-[
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 07, 2018, 09:46:52 AM
Yes, I noticed that they are now doing pulp pinups mashups.  You have to admit they are pretty cool.  It is a Homage to wackys.  A parody of a parody.  I personally like this new set. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 07, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
I think they have a great idea... almost. I wish they would write a new gag title for the product that better fit the pin up girl theme, stealing the original Wacky gags and slogans is uncreative and TM infringement. Disappointing to see them come so close to a new spin on Wackys, only to fall short by stealing existing art and gags... again. I'd have gladly helped them write original gags that would make these stand all on their own. Maybe it's not too late to fix?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 07, 2018, 02:13:56 PM
All new original product parodies and pin up girls would be good. I do like these but 13 bucks a card is too much for my budget, and I'm guessing these will sell for much more.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on July 07, 2018, 02:41:46 PM
Not sure how cool I think this latest effort is. What is the point of putting a pinup girl in place of a wacky character?  Why is that cool?  I can see putting the wrong character on a card as was done with Chrome mixed up cards. But these pinups were not even drawn by a Topps artist correct? What am I missing here?

That is what I was thinking. They look nice but how does that enhance existing Wackys? Maybe if these were new parodies, but as Joe says below, borrowing tag lines from existing Wackys and coupling with artwork, no matter how nice, is just lazy and mostly meaningless.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 07, 2018, 05:06:42 PM
I think they have a great idea... almost. I wish they would write a new gag title for the product that better fit the pin up girl theme, stealing the original Wacky gags and slogans is uncreative and TM infringement. Disappointing to see them come so close to a new spin on Wackys, only to fall short by stealing existing art and gags... again. I'd have gladly helped them write original gags that would make these stand all on their own. Maybe it's not too late to fix?

Joe,

Why don't you produce a set?  (Maybe 12, being there's 12 months in a year?)  And make it completely legal and legit:  Your art, your gags, etc..  I'd bet your set would be better and funnier and make more sense.  These other guys are simply mashing together stuff that isn't even theirs to begin with.  The pin-up girls may give the set a unique look, but it's not funny.  Hell, Sleestak would be funnier!

On another note, I wonder if these would look something like the tentative Old School 40s or 50s sets that Dave Gross had once mentioned?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/wjal4h6zr/latest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wjal4h6zr/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 07, 2018, 06:12:03 PM
Sleestaks are funny!!!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 08, 2018, 03:40:38 AM
Joe,

Why don't you produce a set?  (Maybe 12, being there's 12 months in a year?)  And make it completely legal and legit:  Your art, your gags, etc..  I'd bet your set would be better and funnier and make more sense.  These other guys are simply mashing together stuff that isn't even theirs to begin with.  The pin-up girls may give the set a unique look, but it's not funny.  Hell, Sleestak would be funnier!

On another note, I wonder if these would look something like the tentative Old School 40s or 50s sets that Dave Gross had once mentioned?

(https://s15.postimg.cc/wjal4h6zr/latest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wjal4h6zr/)
Too much money to produce and commission a set like this.  That is why I would not make my own set. I personally just like their idea.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 08, 2018, 03:45:11 AM
Not sure how cool I think this latest effort is. What is the point of putting a pinup girl in place of a wacky character?  Why is that cool?  I can see putting the wrong character on a card as was done with Chrome mixed up cards. But these pinups were not even drawn by a Topps artist correct? What am I missing here?
"The heart likes, what the heart likes". I just like the theme that they did.  I am not talking right or wrong, just that I like the theme. If they put out a set, at a reasonable price, I would buy it.  I am not interested in ludlow back or 1/5 diamond cards. Just a set at a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 08, 2018, 03:46:44 AM
All new original product parodies and pin up girls would be good. I do like these but 13 bucks a card is too much for my budget, and I'm guessing these will sell for much more.
Let's hope they put out a set. Right now I think they are recouping their costs to make the set.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 08, 2018, 04:08:22 AM
I see a lot of concern about slapping pin up girls on wackys. Saying that's not wackys.  How about the guy and his exacto-knife slapping garbage pail kids on wackys, (which I also think is cool). They are selling for 12.00 bucks each. And they are selling. All I am saying is an original idea to mash these up is pretty good. I thank Neil for starting the mashup craze.  I love the Mars attack, wacky mash ups.
Again it's my opinion and I am sticking with it.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: koduck on July 09, 2018, 05:44:47 AM
I thank Neil for starting the mashup craze.  I love the Mars attack, wacky mash ups.
Again it's my opinion and I am sticking with it.

Thanks Joe. I try ;)

By the way, I really do like these pinup mashups. Maybe not as refined as they could be, but there's definitely a good idea there.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 09, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
Thanks Joe. I try ;)

By the way, I really do like these pinup mashups. Maybe not as refined as they could be, but there's definitely a good idea there.
:great:
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 09, 2018, 05:51:58 PM

(https://s15.postimg.cc/u08edx553/bimbo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u08edx553/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on July 10, 2018, 07:35:01 AM
(https://s15.postimg.cc/u08edx553/bimbo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u08edx553/)
Nice mash up you made there Chad :great:
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 10, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
Nice mash up you made there Chad :great:
Thanks my very own Wacky Pin up with all new concept. This sold! Painted version coming soon!!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 10, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
Cards coming too??

  Lost some images in a computer crash, hoping to have a new card set by Halloween, but more that likely Christmas.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 11, 2018, 05:39:46 AM
  Lost some images in a computer crash...

That definitely sucks.  Big time.  Where's George Wright when you need him?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 15, 2018, 02:22:26 PM
Google-fu?  Please forgive my ignorance   :-[
just my way of saying I'll keep working through numerous, varied searches until I get a hit.

I was flipping through my Saunders book, and have yet to recognize any that have been used, so I don't think they touched those. Likely they are alls vintage cover art crops.

I haven't spent much effort looking for sources, but I did easily find a couple of the "Series 2" cards, pulp art by an unknown artist for "Peril - the all man's magazine", and one from well-known Gil Elvgen "Bronco Busted"

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ur49corox/Robot_Burns.jpg) (https://s22.postimg.cc/ktt8jn78h/Unknown.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/i29ytd13l/Muleburro.jpg)(https://s22.postimg.cc/amap7jij5/Elvgren_Bronco_Busted.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 15, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
I guess the name of the magazine explains why I do not care for these images on Wackys.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 15, 2018, 06:19:38 PM
Yo, hold on a second here!  What's the deal?

How come Patrick gets his own pin up girl and the rest of us don't? 

I guess it's all who you know.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4x6zs0rkn/s-l1600-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4x6zs0rkn/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 15, 2018, 06:28:18 PM
Well fine, then.  Two can play at that game.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4n42mkmyf/Baked_Bare.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4n42mkmyf/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 16, 2018, 05:26:51 AM
  When do you start taking orders. Paypal ready. Love those pinups!  Any you have two girls..not one. Genius!

These don't even have any relevance to the Wacky.  Why not just buy pinup girl stuff?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 16, 2018, 07:08:34 AM
These don't even have any relevance to the Wacky.  Why not just buy pinup girl stuff?

The one Baked Bears did has no relevance to the wacky. All the others I’ve seen have tried to insert the girls in a way that goes with the wacky. Either way, I can’t imagine why anyone would want to buy them but they’re mildly amusing.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on July 16, 2018, 07:52:45 AM
Well fine, then.  Two can play at that game.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4n42mkmyf/Baked_Bare.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4n42mkmyf/)
Love this!!!! Needs to be made!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 16, 2018, 07:59:13 AM
These don't even have any relevance to the Wacky.  Why not just buy pinup girl stuff?

I agree, RawGoo.  The pin up girls don't have a single blessed thing to do with Wackys at all, save for being superimposed on a Wacky - and sharing a similar vintage pulp art painting style.  This is what makes them work.  One could probably get cowboy images from vintage western pulp paperbacks, and they would work nearly as well.  Or science fiction / horror monsters from vintage magazines like Amazing Stories.  The cowboys and monsters aren't provocatively rendered, though, and probably wouldn't make guys' eyes bug, tongues roll out, and fetch approximately $150 per card - though the pin up girl / Fright Cola mash-up, which IMO was one of the least provocative of the lot, did fetch the most thus far.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/vzim9p3p3/s-l1600-9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vzim9p3p3/)

Essentially, these mash-ups are selling sex - just like the old pulp magazines did.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/3qgxznnhz/smash-detective-1951-9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3qgxznnhz/)

Another part of the appeal may have to do with the sensational, unrealistic or "fantasy" images which at times border on the ridiculous.  This magazine cover - by Norm Saunders - is wrong, wrong, wrong, yet I do find it amusing in its sheer absurdity:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/qcm9c2o9z/25668766-_New_Man_November_1964._Cover_art_by_Norman_Saunders-8x6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qcm9c2o9z/)

But you're right, though.  These mash-ups have taken Wackys to a whole new realm that is, for the most part, Un-Wacky (just like the MLBs.) 

Some time ago, my ex was into the whole Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles mythology and collected the action figures.  Eventually - and perhaps inevitably - variations began to appear on the market.  "Star Trek" turtles, "Birthday Party" turtles, etc..  It just became ridiculous. It made a mockery of and cheapened the franchise.  Anything to make a quick buck. 

And that's what's happening here.  Someone is making a quick buck - and smiling all the way to the bank.  And it's probably going to go on for the next two or three years.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 16, 2018, 01:41:24 PM
Why are we comparing bootleg Matt Stock creations to MLB wackys?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 16, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Love this!!!! Needs to be made!

Chad,

Being somebody made a mash-up of Fanatical and Sickly, I was just busting Patrick's chops with this mock up of Baked Bears.  If you want some pin up girls to play around with, just google "vintage pin up girl images" or "clipart" with no background or transparent background.  They're ready and waiting to go!

Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 16, 2018, 02:20:36 PM
Why are we comparing bootleg Matt Stock creations to MLB wackys?

Because MLB Wackys fell flat and were devoid of the Wacky feel and spirit, just as Matt's pin up girls are, at least in my opinion.  Both try to be Wacky, but aren't.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 16, 2018, 02:50:50 PM
Being somebody made a mash-up of Fanatical and Sickly, I was just busting Patrick's chops with this mock up of Baked Bears.  If you want some pin up girls to play around with, just google "vintage pin up girl images" or "clipart" with no background or transparent background.  They're ready and waiting to go!
LoL. Yep, my very own. But still won't be paying $10 for a meaningless mashup.

btw - here's a version of yours to match the file name that you gave the image.   ;)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x7c3eat4x/Baked_Bare.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 16, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
I agree, RawGoo.  The pin up girls don't have a single blessed thing to do with Wackys at all, save for being superimposed on a Wacky - and sharing a similar vintage pulp art painting style.
they're not even staying true to that spirit either. Hipton girl is a very modern rendering

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x8m179kjl/Hipton.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: lucidjc on July 16, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
I am a man and I love a good pinup. That said, I do not like this mash up at all. Pinups do not belong on a Wacky. This is just one step away from Ovary Show...what's next, Nude Wackys?? Where does it stop?


Jim
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 17, 2018, 04:50:17 AM
LoL. Yep, my very own. But still won't be paying $10 for a meaningless mashup.

btw - here's a version of yours to match the file name that you gave the image.   ;)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x7c3eat4x/Baked_Bare.jpg)

Thanks for the touch up job, Patrick.

By the way, hope you win the F&S mash-up auction!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on July 17, 2018, 04:53:20 AM
I am a man and I love a good pinup. That said, I do not like this mash up at all. Pinups do not belong on a Wacky. This is just one step away from Ovary Show...what's next, Nude Wackys?? Where does it stop?


Jim

The money-go-round never stops!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: RawGoo on July 21, 2018, 06:56:01 AM
I am so tired of seeing Ovary Show in its uncensored form on Ebay. I follow Lost Wackys and every search for the term brings up that uncensored card. For me that card was cool to own in the past ; as it had a great back story. Now I have probably viewed that card 1000 times and wish I never had to see it again. Maybe any sellers who reads this could cover part of the card out of respect for the fact that Kids may search for Wacky's on the Ebay.  Enough of Ovary Show already!!!

I agree completely.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Brian Mc on July 21, 2018, 07:05:58 AM

btw - here's a version of yours to match the file name that you gave the image.   ;)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x7c3eat4x/Baked_Bare.jpg)

IF you wanted to make a 'racy', sexualized Wacky mash-up, this is the way to go. Changing the words (and maybe the images) to fit the more adult-oriented theme. Bears to Bares is perfect.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: DrSushi on July 21, 2018, 12:45:57 PM
I am so tired of seeing Ovary Show in its uncensored form on Ebay. I follow Lost Wackys and every search for the term brings up that uncensored card. For me that card was cool to own in the past ; as it had a great back story. Now I have probably viewed that card 1000 times and wish I never had to see it again. Maybe any sellers who read this could cover part of the card out of respect for the fact that Kids may search for Wacky's on the Ebay.  Enough of Ovary Show already!!!

Not to mention it may add to the poor familiarity with anatomy in general as there are no ovaries being shown. Maybe the Lost Wacky purveyors need to come up with a new image for that title featuring an ultrasound image to help clear things up  :D
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on August 22, 2018, 05:31:07 AM
I noticed a bunch of new pin-up girl parodies too. Is there a checklist for these or do the artists just keep producing them continually?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: BustedFinger on August 22, 2018, 09:10:24 AM
Of course there is no checklist now.  That will come later as the "Lost Pinups Checklist".
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 23, 2018, 05:19:17 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of the artists behind each of the Lost Wacky Cards in sets 1 - 4?

Thanks,  Andrew
a pretty good chunk of the names can be found on Rusty's site:  http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/Lost-Wackys/
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: jleonard1967 on August 30, 2018, 09:11:18 PM
Hard to comprehend how much $$$ the LW , WP Boxes and Variation Wacky Sets are selling for.  I like the LW and Boxes sets ; but why pay $300 when they came way down in price in the past. Must be some newbies or gotta have it now people.  Go figure.
I would put it towards the gotta have it now people.  No matter what the cost they have to be first.  I am sure there are plenty of sets for whoever wants one. 
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on August 31, 2018, 06:21:11 PM
I would put it towards the gotta have it now people.  No matter what the cost they have to be first.  I am sure there are plenty of sets for whoever wants one.

On the flip side of the coin, it is nerve-wracking waiting a year as Matt patiently, patiently, ever so patiently lists each set one by one by one!  Hmmm.  Anticipation or frustration?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: vahsurfer on September 02, 2018, 11:47:43 AM
WOW..... JUST WOW!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on September 02, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
News Flash:  LW Printing Plates are now a reality. Quiet Pupsi Plate is now on the bay. What will we see next?

Really?!! I was almost positive these were produced using a high-end Epson color laser printer or something. No plates are used for that.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Liptorn on September 02, 2018, 04:01:56 PM
Shill bidding still going on with Lost Wacky auctions. When you see a crazy high price it's always Jabish, a***i(2816) being run up by n***o(1649).

 A search of the bidding history of n***o(1649)
shows that bidder has made 369 bids this month with 49% of them on knight_collectibles and 50% of
the bids being placed with apg227, just a major coincidence that those are Matt's Lost Wacky accounts.
Totally dishonest practice of selling bootleg items and shill bidding a buyer to create a fake market.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on September 02, 2018, 04:53:55 PM
Shill bidding still going on with Lost Wacky auctions. When you see a crazy high price it's always Jabish, a***i(2816) being run up by n***o(1649).

 A search of the bidding history of n***o(1649)
shows that bidder has made 369 bids this month with 49% of them on knight_collectibles and 50% of
the bids being placed with apg227, just a major coincidence that those are Matt's Lost Wacky accounts.
Totally dishonest practice of selling bootleg items and shill bidding a buyer to create a fake market.

It's 7:53 EST and both of them are at it this very minute.

Both are bidding on the blue Trump playing cards and the red Trump playing cards going off tonight - and - both are bidding on a double red/blue Trump cards going off 2 days from now (which I find kind of odd.)  In addition, they're bidding on nearly everything else:  the printing plate, LW4 set, polka dot panties Ovary Show, etc., etc..

a***i(2816) is also in the process of outbidding everyone on the pin up variations over at Knight Collectables.

Gee, I wonder if they'll actually win?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Scheres on September 04, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
Sketch card.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/s24696ndz/sickly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s24696ndz/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Baked Bears on September 08, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
Interesting how a***i(2819) not only outbid everyone on the red Trump card ($42,) but also the blue Trump card ($47) - and the double red and blue Trump cards ($184.91) - for a grand total of $271.91.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/t7ce4mzfx/Trump.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t7ce4mzfx/)

Gosh, some people just can't seem to get enough of Trump!
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on September 08, 2018, 10:06:32 AM
Interesting how a***i has 41% bidding activity with that seller and n***o has 42%.  Both have a 30-day bid history only on wacky packages, and a***i has won all but five auctions while n***o has won only three.

Also the seller apg227 has 480 positive, 2 neutral, and 1 negative feedback entries, but only a score of 150 -- which would indicate a lot of duplicate feeback (same buyer, same ebay week).  The seller also only has one feedback as a buyer in the last six months, and only one more in the last year.

Despite 483 feedback entries, the seller has only left 93 feedback entries (only 70 as a seller), which would also indicate a lot of items from the same buyer.

This doesn't prove collaboration, but it sure indicates some very non-standard results.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: ratchet007 on September 08, 2018, 10:37:07 AM
Despite 483 feedback entries, the seller has only left 93 feedback entries (only 70 as a seller), which would also indicate a lot of items from the same buyer.

Could also indicate a ""distaste" for leaving feedback.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: bandaches on September 08, 2018, 06:56:17 PM
Shill bidding still going on with Lost Wacky auctions. When you see a crazy high price it's always Jabish, a***i(2816) being run up by n***o(1649).

 A search of the bidding history of n***o(1649)
shows that bidder has made 369 bids this month with 49% of them on knight_collectibles and 50% of
the bids being placed with apg227, just a major coincidence that those are Matt's Lost Wacky accounts.
Totally dishonest practice of selling bootleg items and shill bidding a buyer to create a fake market.
...but someone here chastised me for suggesting the series 1 ludlows knight collectibles was selling were possibly fake given the ability to print lost wackys with ludlow backs and given the propensity to be dishonest with shilling....yeah, major leap of faith I made.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on September 13, 2018, 08:00:55 AM
Any one else think the nice'n scarey "LOST WACKY" looks a lot like Maya Rudolph?


(https://s33.postimg.cc/kd23923sb/nicenscarey.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kd23923sb/)



(https://s33.postimg.cc/66mce2szv/Maya.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/66mce2szv/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2018, 08:37:48 AM
Any one else think the nice'n scarey "LOST WACKY" looks a lot like Maya Rudolph?


(https://s33.postimg.cc/kd23923sb/nicenscarey.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kd23923sb/)



(https://s33.postimg.cc/66mce2szv/Maya.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/66mce2szv/)

That is Maya Rudolph! She was in a SNL skit called the Californians. Here is a screen grab...

(https://s33.postimg.cc/c54r1n17v/Screen_Shot_2018-09-13_at_10.35.59_AM.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/c54r1n17v/)
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 13, 2018, 10:17:34 AM
Maybe I missed it, but anyone know who is involved in the artwork for these?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: drono on September 13, 2018, 11:13:37 AM
Any one else think the nice'n scarey "LOST WACKY" looks a lot like Maya Rudolph?


I can see the resemblance.  I think it looks a lot like Roseanne Barr too.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2018, 12:42:37 PM
I can see the resemblance.  I think it looks a lot like Roseanne Barr too.

You saw my earlier post, right? That is an exact replication of a photo of Maya Rudolph
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: 6_Fooey_Ounces on September 14, 2018, 07:34:35 AM
LOVE The Californians:

"I said go home, Devin! Get back on San Vicente, take it to the 10 then switch over to the 405 north and let it dump you out to Mulholland where you belong!"



That is Maya Rudolph! She was in a SNL skit called the Californians. Here is a screen grab...
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: sco(o)t on September 14, 2018, 08:59:50 AM
Maybe I missed it, but anyone know who is involved in the artwork for these?

Good eye. I knew the resemblance was strong. You nailed the apparent source for the parody.
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Zenergizer on September 21, 2018, 05:38:22 PM
Are these going to be sold normally to anyone who wants a full set?  I keep seeing on eBay
partial subsets here and there, and then the occasional "blue set", "yellow set", etc., but
they're up for bids, not for sale per se, and when you try and place a bid, naturally you're outbid!
(go figure, we've talked about this already).

Seriously, I'm interested in them just for the sake of them, but why is getting themt being made so hard on us?

I don't get it....  Does anyone know if they are indeed available elsewhere?
Title: Re: LOST WACKYS
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 21, 2018, 05:47:37 PM

I don't get it....  Does anyone know if they are indeed available elsewhere?

Basic sets of Boxes 1-4 and LW 2 & 3 direct from Greg Grant's site, but not all the endless variations and chase nonsense

http://www.wackypackages.org/forsale/new/boxes_series1_pack.html

http://www.wackypackages.org/forsale/new/LW3_reg_set.html