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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: Soremel on April 01, 2017, 07:47:36 AM
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A recent post in the "Gag Criticism and Variation" thread got me thinking that it would be nice to have a place to share new and old Wacky Package discoveries, as well as any speculation on some of the mysteries that have not been answered.
The particular title that got my attention in the above-mentioned thread was "Quake 'n' Ache". As a kid, I remember noticing the odd "patch" on the chicken silhouette's wing. Back then I speculated that the art was either revised, or the artist ran out of the same color red they had used on the rest of the graphic and tried their best to match it. Of course, the answer was revealed years later that this was a revision where text was removed, or painted over.
Even though some of the solved mysteries are common knowledge among the Wacky veterans on this forum, I would encourage everyone to share stories of the old discoveries to spread that wealth of information for those that may be new to the hobby.
I'll start with one that I had inquired about on a forum years ago. Again, as a kid, I noticed a patch of paint that didn't look right on the "Ruden's Cough Drops" art from the 10th series. Not long after after the discussion started, Jay Lynch chimed in and gave his recollection of this anomaly. He told us that he remembered the original gag having the character giving a raspberry with his toungue sticking out. For some reason, the tongue was painted over.
(https://s3.postimg.org/ufo2glhn3/Ruden_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ufo2glhn3/)
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Excellent idea! I was not aware of either of these.
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Great thread George! Reminded me to dig up this thread from the 2012 Officially Unofficial National Wacky Packages Day:
For the past few years, it feels like I've drawn a gazillion wacky sketch cards and spent hours (and hours!) looking at old wacky titles that I thought I knew pretty well. But as it turns out, I found a bunch of anomalies that I somehow overlooked and thought I'd share some of my favorites with you:
1) Series 1, Horrid Deodorant - There's a distinct "A" on the can in the character's hand. Is that an "A" for "Arid", the original product?!
(https://s17.postimg.org/3va57mhmj/1_horrid.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3va57mhmj/)
2) Series 2, Fishbone Dressing - The small bottle in the character's hand shows the same character but as a skeleton!
(https://s27.postimg.org/uqzizqdjj/2_fishbone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uqzizqdjj/)
3) Series 3, Sledge - The small can in the character's hand looks to be the original product motif, not the wacky parody!
(https://s21.postimg.org/791ky8r37/3_sledge.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/791ky8r37/)
4) Series 4, Wormy Packages - Norm Saunders initials appear on the toothpaste tube on the left hand side!
(https://s9.postimg.org/gddgpre2z/4_wormypkg.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gddgpre2z/)
5) Series 4, Grazin Bran - Is that a 7up bottle cap in the horses bowl?!
(https://s27.postimg.org/j2jnl9win/4_Grazin_Bran.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j2jnl9win/)
6) Series 5, Sludge -The NBS Co on one of the bricks certainly stands for Norm Blane Saunders Company!
(https://s12.postimg.org/n6kh87eix/5_sludge.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n6kh87eix/)
7) Series 7, DimWit Dots - The watch on the characters wrist is actually a bunged up compass!
(https://s11.postimg.org/6moehqk7z/7_dwdots_compass.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6moehqk7z/)
8) Series 7, Boozo - The text on the original art differs from the printed sticker. Instead of "You'll Have to Be Drunk" it says, "You'ld Have to Be Drunk". Was Boozo to blame?!
(https://s18.postimg.org/3qh1mj5px/7_boozo_copy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3qh1mj5px/)
9) Series 7, Mr Goodcents/Contrac - The cars on the two stickers look to be the same vehicle - one coming and one going!
(https://s23.postimg.org/ujh9eg1s7/7_mrgoodtrac.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ujh9eg1s7/)
10) Series 11, Stinkertoy - The skunk in the diagram actually has a raccoon tail!
(https://s16.postimg.org/afbygwoep/11_stinkertoy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/afbygwoep/)
And of course no wacky list would be complete without a few bonuses:
11) Series 14, Weakinson Blades - Norm was famous for using his likeness in many of his paintings. Take a look at the character in the background on the right side. Look familiar?!
(https://s4.postimg.org/s4q06lsax/14_weakinson.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/s4q06lsax/)
12) Series 11, (from forum member Crust): Sleepy - Is the issue number "7474" the date that the art was painted (July 4, 1974)?!
(https://s17.postimg.org/jvdlqqlwr/sleepy_7474.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jvdlqqlwr/)
13) Series 11, (from forum member Bigtomi): 61 Magazine - A parody of 16 Magazine, the date on the cover is Dec 2020. The difference between 61 and 16 is 45. If you add 45 to the year the sticker was released, you get 2020 (1975 + 45). Not coincidence, it was done to reflect when 16 year olds then would be 61.
(https://s22.postimg.org/g15ygetf1/61_16.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/g15ygetf1/)
There are lots of other anomalies to be found but these are a few of my favorites! If anyone has more to share, post 'em here!!!
HAPPY OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL NATIONAL WACKY PACKAGES DAY!!
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This will be interesting reading for me. I collected Wackys as a kid in the late 70's, and came back to them in the last 6-7 years. As such, I don't have 40 years of collecting experience... so, all of these will probably be "new" to me.
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This will be interesting reading for me. I collected Wackys as a kid in the late 70's, and came back to them in the last 6-7 years. As such, I don't have 40 years of collecting experience... so, all of these will probably be "new" to me.
I never stopped collecting, but I didn't find the Wacky community until after ANS started, so there should be a lot new to me as well!!
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Neil!!!! You deserve an award! Thank you so much for posting those observations! I am embarrassed to admit that I've been collecting Wacky Packages since 1973 and only knew of 5 of the ones that you listed! Great stuff! Regarding "Fishbone Dressing", it bothered me way back in the '70's that the bottle that the guy is holding isn't the same shape as the dressing bottle on the sticker.
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Thanks George, but Norm actually deserves the award for creating them!
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Like this thread a lot! Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Speaking of anomalies, can anyone explain the significance of the small silver bell attached to the lower middle worm's "tail" in "Scare Deal Note Book?" It's not an old-fashioned handheld teacher's bell or a schoolhouse belfry bell, but rather one of those little Christmas jingle bells.
(https://s28.postimg.org/dd05r8cm1/scaredeal_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dd05r8cm1/)
Postscript: Of the original Wackys, "Wormy Packages" is in my top 10 list - yet never once did I notice Saunder's initials on the tube. Good eye, Neil!
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Like this thread a lot! Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Speaking of anomalies, can anyone explain the significance of the small silver bell attached to the lower middle worm's "tail" in "Scare Deal Note Book?" It's not an old-fashioned handheld teacher's bell or a schoolhouse belfry bell, but rather one of those little Christmas jingle bells.
(https://s28.postimg.org/dd05r8cm1/scaredeal_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dd05r8cm1/)
I remember pondering the meaning of that bell back in '74 when I was opening packs in the back of my mother's '72 Volvo station wagon!
The best that I could come up with was that the worm wanted to be a rattle snake, but didn't have a baby rattle to tie to his tail, so he tied a bell to it... far fetched, but that's all I got! LOL!
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Here's a subtle blooper... the product name, on the box top, is spelled incorrectly with an extra "T"
(https://s14.postimg.org/qlk5z29vh/El_Polluto.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qlk5z29vh/)
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I remember pondering the meaning of that bell back in '74 when I was opening packs in the back of my mother's '72 Volvo station wagon!
The best that I could come up with was that the worm wanted to be a rattle snake, but didn't have a baby rattle to tie to his tail, so he tied a bell to it... far fetched, but that's all I got! LOL!
Not that far fetched and it does makes a certain amount of sense. I have some vague, distant memory of seeing rattlesnakes holding baby rattles with their tails when I was younger, but I can't pinpoint exactly where. Comics? A cartoon? Perhaps it was a universal running gag for a while back in the 70s or even before?
And what on earth is a Volvo station wagon? Some recently unearthed fossil discovery? (Just kidding.)
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Here's a subtle blooper... the product name, on the box top, is spelled incorrectly with an extra "T"
(https://s14.postimg.org/qlk5z29vh/El_Polluto.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qlk5z29vh/)
Damn! Never noticed that one, either! Good eye!
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While not a mistake, I always enjoyed the leather shoe soles on the polar bear's feet in the 4th series title "Polarbearoid"... so random, but so right (for Wacky Packages, that is!)
(https://s24.postimg.org/5yxaiyjn5/Polarbearoid.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5yxaiyjn5/)
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While not a mistake, I always enjoyed the leather shoe soles on the polar bear's feet in the 4th series title "Polarbearoid"... so random, but so right (for Wacky Packages, that is!)
(https://s24.postimg.org/5yxaiyjn5/Polarbearoid.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5yxaiyjn5/)
Man, your powers of observation are just too good! I'm beginning to feel either blind or just completely oblivious! Yes, and you're right. It fits perfectly into the WP world.
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Small typo. "Mama's" and "Papa's" should be plural, rather than possessive.
(https://s29.postimg.org/6yunwni0z/gurgles_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6yunwni0z/)
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Small typo. "Mama's" and "Papa's" should be plural, rather than possessive.
(https://s29.postimg.org/6yunwni0z/gurgles_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6yunwni0z/)
Yikes! You're right! I don't believe that's ever been pointed out before! Awesome sleuthing!
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Neat thread, George! When I saw Ruden's, I thought you were going to mention the other thing about this one that's not really so subtle: they should have picked the parody name consistently. The box top vs. the front. Is it "coarse" or "cough"? Personally, I think the box front is wrong....
(https://s3.postimg.org/ufo2glhn3/Ruden_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ufo2glhn3/)
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Awesome sleuthing!
Thanks for the compliment, but I think that might be an exaggeration.
Upon closer examination, I'm now finding so many things that I never noticed before. Not necessarily typos or hidden messages and the like, but rather just details that I've never picked up on before (and am almost ashamed to admit that they have escaped me all of this time.) Still, this is fun though. Kind of like looking at something familiar for the very first time again.
For example, the fireworks mixed in with the bubbles in "Burpsi- Cola."
(https://s14.postimg.org/hl4q3uelp/burpsi_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hl4q3uelp/)
In "The Saturday Evening Ghost," the ghost is actually coming out of a bottle lying on the floor beside the chair. Moreover, the man in the chair and the dog are literally airborne, for the man's legs and butt and the dog itself are actually casting shadows. (I had always taken it for granted that the man was seated and the dog was standing on the floor alongside the chair.)
(https://s18.postimg.org/5ggn3pwxx/saturdayghost_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ggn3pwxx/)
In "Family Circuit," the boy is actually plugging in the cat. (I always just paid attention to the people stuck to each other by the electrical force.)
(https://s14.postimg.org/qqbsfsfv1/familycircuit_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qqbsfsfv1/)
In "Planet of the Grapes," the ape/grape's hands are actually smaller grapes. (I have always just assumed the ape/grape was wearing gloves.)
(https://s8.postimg.org/ctaffqtq9/planetgrapes_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ctaffqtq9/)
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Neat thread, George! When I saw Ruden's, I thought you were going to mention the other thing about this one that's not really so subtle: they should have picked the parody name consistently. The box top vs. the front. Is it "coarse" or "cough"? Personally, I think the box front is wrong....
(https://s3.postimg.org/ufo2glhn3/Ruden_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ufo2glhn3/)
Good one, Bigtomi!
I wonder if the wording was also changed at some point. On the front of the box, "Cough Drops" is not centered in relationship to the text above it. If the word "Coarse" - with its sixth letter - was substituted, however, the centering would be perfect. Perhaps they changed "Coarse" to "Cough" at some point, but neglected to make the change on the top of the box as well?
As to why Topps would change the tongue and possibly the wording, who knows? (I prefer the tongue and "coarse.") If the tongue actually extended past the arm to the point where the paint over ends, it would have been a rather long tongue. (Perhaps even obscene???)
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I'm somewhat sketchy on this, but I believe I read somewhere that Jay Lynch (?) stated that he worked little codes into some of the WP titles. Numbers representing letters, perhaps, or something similar?
Does anyone know if this is true? And, if so, does anyone know of any instances (titles) in which this happened?
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Neat thread, George! When I saw Ruden's, I thought you were going to mention the other thing about this one that's not really so subtle: they should have picked the parody name consistently. The box top vs. the front. Is it "coarse" or "cough"? Personally, I think the box front is wrong....
(https://s3.postimg.org/ufo2glhn3/Ruden_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ufo2glhn3/)
Nice call! I never noticed the "course" & "cough" text difference!
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"Brawl Park Franks" Illusion - ANS3
The third hot dog from the left is holding a bottle of Heinz ketchup.
The mystery, however, is how many hot dogs are actually in the package 4 or 8?
At first glance, it appears that there are 4 franks battling it out inside the package. If you look at the left hand side of the package, though, you will see 8 hot dog ends pressed tightly against the plastic.
(https://s22.postimg.org/48fwugn4t/19_front_brawlpark.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/48fwugn4t/)
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"Brawl Park Franks" Illusion - ANS3
The third hot dog from the left is holding a bottle of Heinz ketchup.
The mystery, however, is how many hot dogs are actually in the package 4 or 8?
At first glance, it appears that there are 4 franks battling it out inside the package. If you look at the left hand side of the package, though, you will see 8 hot dog ends pressed tightly against the plastic.
(https://s22.postimg.org/48fwugn4t/19_front_brawlpark.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/48fwugn4t/)
I figured that although the package is see through, allowing the view of the 8 hotdogs, there is a picture front panel showing the product in use.
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Sco(o)t,
I believe you are right. The black label alongside the heavy black title border (especially on the right hand side) led me to believe that the front of the package was see through. When I look at the actual package, though, I can see that it is not. Thanks!
(https://s13.postimg.org/tx05qcdv7/ball-park-franks.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tx05qcdv7/)
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the one that I was always curious about, is where is the dog that put its paw prints on the cereal bowl?
(https://s3.postimg.org/843tcszlf/Screen_Shot_2017-04-02_at_10.06.56_AM.png)
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Ah, now that's a good one! "The Case of the Phantom Puppy" The prints couldn't have been left by the pup just above them, for they are upside down in relationship to the pup. And if a pup had leapt out of the bowl onto the table and then returned, I doubt it would have had enough milk left on its paws to leave any distinctive prints. And why would it have returned to the bowl so soon, having been recently startled out of the bowl by the poured milk in the first place? Lastly, if it had returned to the bowl and jumped back in (because its weird and likes having milk poured on it,) the pup would have had to gone for the rim of the bowl, leaving prints there (assuming it did have enough milk on its paws to leave prints,) not the side of the bowl. In addition, we would still see it leaping back in, for the prints are maybe only a second old. This is a good mystery!
(This is one of my favorites from the ANS, and again, I never picked up on this. And I was just studying this yesterday, looking to see if there were any extra tails, etc.. It's curious how our minds see what they want to see, automatically projecting logic upon something so it will make sense.)
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there may be an 'extra' tail behind the bowl, though, so maybe the pup just ran around to the backside?
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You know, at first I thought you were joking - and maybe you are - but maybe you are also right!
If you can zoom in on the picture and cut out a section (I would, but don't know how to,) go for the pup on the right with its tongue hanging out. In particular, go for the two tails by Sonny the Cuckoo's belly.
1) The lower tail (which I assume belongs to the pup on the lower right) is very far away from the pup. If you look at the relationship between the other pups and their tails, their tails are much, much closer. Perhaps this tail belongs to the pup with its tongue hanging out and not the pup below it?
2) Look at the upper tail - particularly its relationship to the pink rim of the cereal bowl, as well as the milk just inside the rim. If the tail was inside of the bowl, it would logically be obscuring the pink rim and milk - yet it is not. So perhaps this is our phantom?
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Everyone knows what lousy spellers we artists are, but now I don't feel so bad.
See exhibits a, b and c:
(https://s27.postimg.org/7sn2ys333/wp_hngy_Jk.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7sn2ys333/)
(https://s2.postimg.org/41923q8cl/wp_natgeol.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41923q8cl/)
(https://s18.postimg.org/sk6pyal9x/wp_cancld.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sk6pyal9x/)
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See exhibits a, b and c:
You must have a very powerful magnifying glass!
On exhibit "C," are you referring to the spelling of "whisky?" If you check it out, there are two different spellings, and Canadian Club spells it "whisky" as opposed to "whiskey." Or is there something else that I (once again) am oblivious to?
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I just enjoy the fact that we are a collection of presumably mature adults, friendly debating the minutia of comedy cards marketed to adolecents about 45 years after the fact. And in a bipartisan spirit. :P
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On exhibit "C," are you referring to the spelling of "whisky?" If you check it out, there are two different spellings, and Canadian Club spells it "whisky" as opposed to "whiskey." Or is there something else that I (once again) am oblivious to?
I've been told that countries that have an "e" in their name spell it "whiskey" (like Ireland and America) and those without an "e" use "whisky" (Canada, Japan).
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Just goes to show I'll never be an English teacher...
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Just goes to show I'll never be an English teacher...
I think we all prefer you remain an artist, anyway... :)
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I think we all prefer you remain an artist, anyway... :)
:great: :great: :great:
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I think we all prefer you remain an artist, anyway... :)
Actually, if I had it all to do again, I would have been a history teacher...or a paleontologist...or maybe a coffee grower...like Juan Valdez, but without the mustache...
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anything but a spelling bee judge
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Here is one that most of you already know of, the Bent sticker with the bottom of the pack extending illogically down to the broken cigarette. It should be a straight line at the bottom of the pack.
(https://s14.postimg.org/nh7cbys59/bend_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nh7cbys59/)
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Here is one that most of you already know of, the Bent sticker with the bottom of the pack extending illogically down to the broken cigarette. It should be a straight line at the bottom of the pack.
There's absolutely no way I would have picked up on this. And you are absolutely right! Thanks for sharing!
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Here is one that most of you already know of, the Bent sticker with the bottom of the pack extending illogically down to the broken cigarette. It should be a straight line at the bottom of the pack.
(https://s14.postimg.org/nh7cbys59/bend_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nh7cbys59/)
My guess is that it was originally painted correctly with a small black gap between the pack and the cigarette, but somebody didn't like the way it looked and had it altered.
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My guess is that it was originally painted correctly with a small black gap between the pack and the cigarette, but somebody didn't like the way it looked and had it altered.
They also removed the joke that was between those two gold curly lines above.
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Here's a little known anomaly (at least to me!)...
Unless it has been documented on any of the sites, or in any of the forums, I think this may be a new one... or just so trivial that nobody cares! ;D
I recently purchased a group of nine 3rd Series "Sledge" stickers from the forum's own Big Muc (Bill)... in that group, there was an original copyright line without any asterisks (upper-left in the attached pic) The non-asterisk copyrights were usually only on the Wonder Bread releases, and they were the long copyright lines.
At some point during the week, I'm going to locate all of my 3rd series dupes and see if there are more of these out there.
(https://s3.postimg.org/duxq1fpjj/Sledge_no_asterisk.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/duxq1fpjj/)
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My guess is that it was originally painted correctly with a small black gap between the pack and the cigarette, but somebody didn't like the way it looked and had it altered.
Another oddity about the "Bent" art is that the "warning" on the side of the pack looks like it may have been altered as not to be read. Most of the undecipherable warnings on some of the cigarette spoofs were at least clearly drawn lines that simulated some sort of text... this one looks like it was modified after the fact.
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Here's a little known anomaly (at least to me!)...
Unless it has been documented on any of the sites, or in any of the forums, I think this may be a new one... or just so trivial that nobody cares! ;D
I recently purchased a group of nine 3rd Series "Sledge" stickers from the forum's own Big Muc (Bill)... in that group, there was an original copyright line without any asterisks (upper-left in the attached pic) The non-asterisk copyrights were usually only on the Wonder Bread releases, and they were the long copyright lines.
At some point during the week, I'm going to locate all of my 3rd series dupes and see if there are more of these out there.
that would be half of a Hostess Double, I would guess?
(http://www.wackypacks.com/stickers/hostessdoubles/sledge-riceaphoni_small.jpg)
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Here's a little known anomaly (at least to me!)...
Unless it has been documented on any of the sites, or in any of the forums, I think this may be a new one... or just so trivial that nobody cares! ;D
I recently purchased a group of nine 3rd Series "Sledge" stickers from the forum's own Big Muc (Bill)... in that group, there was an original copyright line without any asterisks (upper-left in the attached pic) The non-asterisk copyrights were usually only on the Wonder Bread releases, and they were the long copyright lines.
At some point during the week, I'm going to locate all of my 3rd series dupes and see if there are more of these out there.
(https://s3.postimg.org/duxq1fpjj/Sledge_no_asterisk.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/duxq1fpjj/)
Cut hostess pair?
(https://s23.postimg.org/v0yzxwa6j/Screen_Shot_2017-04-03_at_12.33.24_PM.png)
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Beat me to it again :)
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that would be half of a Hostess Double, I would guess?
(http://www.wackypacks.com/stickers/hostessdoubles/sledge-riceaphoni_small.jpg)
SWEEEEEET! Yep, it all checks out! Thank you, Fanatical and Paul Maul!
(https://s3.postimg.org/u2edwldn3/Sledge_Hostess.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u2edwldn3/)
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Every now and then, an eBay seller will list a group of Wacky Packages with writing on the backs of the stickers. Most of the time they are marked with the name of the owner, or the number of the series that the stickers were part of. A while back, I saved this image because of the dates that the owner had written on the sticker backs. I believe that somewhere around this date was when the Wacky Packages 1st Series was released (can't remember the actual release date off the top of my head!) I just thought it was a cool snapshot of Wacky Package history... kind of a "ground zero" moment.
(https://s2.postimg.org/h24z0tcrp/1st_Series_Backs.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h24z0tcrp/)
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Ghoul Humor is one of my favorite 16th Series titles. When I acquired my first set of 16ths back in '85, I couldn't help but notice that the shovel has a patch of shading (and/or reflection) that didn't seem to make sense. It always looked like the shovel was painted in OVER the blue logo background. The patch of "shadow" follows the bottom edge of the logo area instead of having a shadow that conforms to the curve of the shovel. I could be WAY off, and need to cut back on my caffeine intake, but that always stuck out as being odd. The shovel almost looks translucent allowing some of the background show through.
(https://s24.postimg.org/etgb53iap/Ghoul_Humor_Shovel.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/etgb53iap/)
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Another oddity about the "Bent" art is that the "warning" on the side of the pack looks like it may have been altered as not to be read. Most of the undecipherable warnings on some of the cigarette spoofs were at least clearly draw lines that simulated some sort of text... this one looks like it was modified after the fact.
yep, a couple of mods to that Bent.
these reminded me of the proof cards that I have from toppsvault auctions from years ago. I think they auctioned the entire 2nd and 4th series original proof sheets worth of individual cards. The final Black is not printed on them, so no copyrights, or borders, which shows the blue die cut line for 2nd series and blue border for the 4th series.
I picked up several of these, including the Quake n Ache, Bent, and the 4th series copy of Pepto-Dismal - which is probably another little known fact at this point that it was an alternate title in the 4th series.
A copy of Winsome was also auctioned, but fetched a price far higher than I was willing to bid.
(https://s18.postimg.org/o7qlslx9l/Proofs.jpg)
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SWEEEEEET! Yep, it all checks out! Thank you, Fanatical and Paul Maul!
(https://s3.postimg.org/u2edwldn3/Sledge_Hostess.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u2edwldn3/)
This is exactly how I completed my "cut doubles collection". It amazes me how cleanly cut some of these are, almost as if they somehow made it into packs professional cut by Topps.
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yep, a couple of mods to that Bent.
these reminded me of the proof cards that I have from toppsvault auctions from years ago. I think they auctioned the entire 2nd and 4th series original proof sheets worth of individual cards. The final Black is not printed on them, so no copyrights, or borders, which shows the blue die cut line for 2nd series and blue border for the 4th series.
I picked up several of these, including the Quake n Ache, Bent, and the 4th series copy of Pepto-Dismal - which is probably another little known fact at this point that it was an alternate title in the 4th series.
A copy of Winsome was also auctioned, but fetched a price far higher than I was willing to bid.
(https://s18.postimg.org/o7qlslx9l/Proofs.jpg)
This is so cool! I had seen the original image of Quake 'n' Ache before, but NEVER saw the Bent original! And, I never even knew about the Pepto-Dismal revision! Thank you for posting these!
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The shovel almost looks translucent allowing some of the background show through.
Yes, it most certainly does at that.
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yep, a couple of mods to that Bent.
these reminded me of the proof cards that I have from toppsvault auctions from years ago. I think they auctioned the entire 2nd and 4th series original proof sheets worth of individual cards. The final Black is not printed on them, so no copyrights, or borders, which shows the blue die cut line for 2nd series and blue border for the 4th series.
I picked up several of these, including the Quake n Ache, Bent, and the 4th series copy of Pepto-Dismal - which is probably another little known fact at this point that it was an alternate title in the 4th series.
A copy of Winsome was also auctioned, but fetched a price far higher than I was willing to bid.
I also agree with Soremel. Most definitely cool!
If you are ever in a Duane Dimock position and able to produce a small set of these as free giveaways, you would definitely have my gratitude in more ways than one. These are very nice - a sharp addition to any collection.
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I was looking at "Jelly Bully" from ANS6 the other day, and noticed what appears to be an off white "discoloration" around "20 victims," "The totally mean jelly bean," and the "Jelly Bully" logo itself in the upper left. Does anyone know if the original was altered in anyway (as in the cases of "Quake 'n Ache," "Bent," and "Pepto-Dismal?")
I know way back, sometimes transfer letters were individually applied - which might alter the background color, perhaps? However, ANS6 was issued in 2007, and I doubt transfer letters were still being used at that point in time. Also, the "Jelly Bully" jelly bean logo has the same odd patch of white surrounding it, and I doubt there was ever a transfer made of that. Perhaps something was cut and pasted? I really don't know and am simply grasping at straws. Can anyone shed some light on this? It almost looks as if white out was used.
(https://s3.postimg.org/4z2d3xabz/52_front_jellybully.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4z2d3xabz/)
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A copy of Winsome was also auctioned, but fetched a price far higher than I was willing to bid.
(https://s18.postimg.org/o7qlslx9l/Proofs.jpg)
Oh well, you win some and you lose some.
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Oh well, you win some and you lose some.
I see watcha did there. :P
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Here's a little known anomaly (at least to me!)...
Unless it has been documented on any of the sites, or in any of the forums, I think this may be a new one... or just so trivial that nobody cares! ;D
I recently purchased a group of nine 3rd Series "Sledge" stickers from the forum's own Big Muc (Bill)... in that group, there was an original copyright line without any asterisks (upper-left in the attached pic) The non-asterisk copyrights were usually only on the Wonder Bread releases, and they were the long copyright lines.
At some point during the week, I'm going to locate all of my 3rd series dupes and see if there are more of these out there.
(https://s3.postimg.org/duxq1fpjj/Sledge_no_asterisk.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/duxq1fpjj/)
I will have to check my Rice a Phoni's!
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They also removed the joke that was between those two gold curly lines above.
Yes. It said under Bent -- "on destroying your lungs". I guess that was a little too severe.
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Yes. It said under Bent -- "on destroying your lungs". I guess that was a little too severe.
Or put another way, truth in advertising.
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Or put another way, truth in advertising.
Yeah! Which is quite different than plausible deniability.
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"Tacky Packages" ANS4
The package header says "Lazy Goo," while the tube itself says "Lazy Glue."
Of the featured Wackys, I believe I am correct in identifying:
Prickles
Slam Jim
Busted Finger
Jip
Fantom
Wormy Packages
Hex Mix
Mallomartians
After Life
Geek Giant
Mr. Potato Dead
Downer
Bandaging for Mummies
Ajerx
Coal Flakes
At the moment, I can't identify the rest, but they have to be ANS4 or before. The sticker glued to the top of the kid's ear is driving me crazy!
(https://s21.postimg.org/g3ahq3fnn/47_front_tackypackages.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/g3ahq3fnn/)
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5) Series 4, Grazin Bran - Is that a 7up bottle cap in the horses bowl?!
(https://s27.postimg.org/j2jnl9win/4_Grazin_Bran.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j2jnl9win/)
"Meow Mess" - OS3
And here we find a "6up" bottle cap among the kitty refuse.
(https://s11.postimg.org/mpa075mxr/DSCN0964.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mpa075mxr/)
(https://s13.postimg.org/mi82k4h9v/DSCN0966.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mi82k4h9v/)
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At the moment, I can't identify the rest, but they have to be ANS4 or before. The sticker glued to the top of the kid's ear is driving me crazy!
I think you are referring to the ANS4 #38 Banned card?
others appear to be
Misery Date
Fancy Feet
Neutrogenie
MuttRageous
I think Dave posted all of the references painted on this one back in the day, but that post is now lost on the old forum
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"Tacky Packages" ANS4
(https://s21.postimg.org/g3ahq3fnn/47_front_tackypackages.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/g3ahq3fnn/)
I believe that Hi-Sea and Snore-Caps are on the bottom on either side of the word "velcro." Those were 2 titles that Dave Gross painted for ANS3 that didn't make the set. I can't recall whether they were ever used in later series but I do remember that the ToppsVault auctioned the art.
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Here are my original thumbnail (which sold the gag) and first rough for Tacky Packages. You can see that Dave did the heavy lifting with all of those tiny Wackys in the final. Also, the thumbnail shows "Elder's Glue" which became a standalone title.
(https://s3.postimg.org/w0rivnzi7/01_-_tackypackages_thumbnail.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w0rivnzi7/)
(https://s3.postimg.org/a2v21vkhr/02_-_tackypackages_rough01.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a2v21vkhr/)
I believe that Hi-Sea and Snore-Caps are on the bottom on either side of the word "velcro." Those were 2 titles that Dave Gross painted for ANS3 that didn't make the set. I can't recall whether they were ever used in later series but I do remember that the ToppsVault auctioned the art.
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Jelly Bully was not altered. I tried a new (to me) lettering scheme in which the text was done in PhotoShop and printed and adhered to the painting. The way Topps photographed the art, lines showed up where the text was pasted. They could have fixed that in production but missed it, I guess. These days the artists scan their own art so this sort of thing would be less likely to occur.
I was looking at "Jelly Bully" from ANS6 the other day, and noticed what appears to be an off white "discoloration" around "20 victims," "The totally mean jelly bean," and the "Jelly Bully" logo itself in the upper left. Does anyone know if the original was altered in anyway (as in the cases of "Quake 'n Ache," "Bent," and "Pepto-Dismal?")
I know way back, sometimes transfer letters were individually applied - which might alter the background color, perhaps? However, ANS6 was issued in 2007, and I doubt transfer letters were still being used at that point in time. Also, the "Jelly Bully" jelly bean logo has the same odd patch of white surrounding it, and I doubt there was ever a transfer made of that. Perhaps something was cut and pasted? I really don't know and am simply grasping at straws. Can anyone shed some light on this? It almost looks as if white out was used.
(https://s3.postimg.org/4z2d3xabz/52_front_jellybully.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4z2d3xabz/)
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Fred, thanks for all the background info on those Wackys! Also thanks so much for posting the thumbnail and rough, those are always a blast to see!
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(https://s3.postimg.org/ufo2glhn3/Ruden_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ufo2glhn3/)
Another one dealing with Rudens. Not sure if this was done on purpose, or on accident. But the front reads "Ruden's Meany Cough Drops" and the top reads "Ruden's Meany Coarse Drops." I know sometimes they would change things up from front to label, but it seems odd that they would change only the one word when the rest are the same. I will see if this happens elsewhere in the original series
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Another one dealing with Rudens. ... But the front reads "Ruden's Meany Cough Drops" and the top reads "Ruden's Meany Coarse Drops."
Bill, I mentioned this one earlier in this thread (but I think it bears repeating, lol).
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=4923.msg87054#msg87054
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Bill, I mentioned this one earlier in this thread (but I think it bears repeating, lol).
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=4923.msg87054#msg87054
Just trying to steal your thunder!!
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While attending the spring Allentown show, I was lucky enough to be able to hold the original "Coca-Cobra" painting by Smokin' Joe in my very hands. To a Wacky aficionado, this was akin to an art connoisseur holding, say, the "Mona Lisa." (Thank you, Joe!)
At any rate, for the very first time, I noticed the second snake formed from the "tail" of the second capital "C." Don't know if anyone else has picked up on this before, but figured I'd pass it along.
(https://s21.postimg.org/4aw2iuf37/34_front_cocacobra.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4aw2iuf37/)
(Also, probably the wrong thread for this, but notice how wonderfully the bottle is backlit.)
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To go along with BB's post - the published version in ANS3 was also the second rendition of the piece by Smokin' Joe.
Topps sold it off years ago, but it would have been cool to see them side by side.
(https://s7.postimg.org/5un10bcyf/coca.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5un10bcyf/)
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The top & bottom look kinda similar... :-[
(https://s1.postimg.org/mfs6n98hn/Coma_Commie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mfs6n98hn/)
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The top & bottom look kinda similar... :-[
(https://s1.postimg.org/mfs6n98hn/Coma_Commie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mfs6n98hn/)
Never seen that Coma promo! Where is that from?
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Never seen that Coma promo! Where is that from?
I saw the Lost Wackys Series 3 promo on Matt Stock's eBay listing page along with other items from the same series.
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All points bulletin!
All points bulletin!
An unknown "pink panties" artist has recently invaded WackyLand and defaced an iconic piece of history! This culprit must be apprehended immediately, thrown into a pit of hot coals, and have his paintbrushes snapped in two!
Sadly, "Ovary Show" ain't showing anything anymore...
(https://s3.postimg.org/w1kppxk73/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w1kppxk73/)
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An unknown "pink panties" artist has recently invaded WackyLand and defaced an iconic piece of history!
also available in blue and green.
but which of the three, if any, is the hard to find version?
http://www.wackypacks.com/unpublished/LW3.html
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also available in blue and green.
but which of the three, if any, is the hard to find version?
http://www.wackypacks.com/unpublished/LW3.html
Man, you're good, Patrick! I don't know how you find this stuff sometimes. Thanks!
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I am almost positive that this has been discussed in the past, but I missed class that day! So, if this is old info and observations, please discard this message!
This is a partial die-cut sheet that I acquired back in '86. What I basically want to know, is what part of the die-cut timeline would this sheet fall into? I'm assuming that it would have been toward the end of the run. I have included a few images for reference and listed some of my observations below. Any input, insight and discussion is welcome!
(https://s1.postimg.org/1k3g71z5ej/20171103_213324-1_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/1k3g71z5ej/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/4ifqakck2j/20171103_213634-1_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ifqakck2j/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/2gcp0oau2z/20171103_213905_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2gcp0oau2z/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/8kiif4702j/20171103_215221_2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8kiif4702j/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/4bqjr4719n/1967_Die-_Cut_Sheet_1-44.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4bqjr4719n/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/7vchgxcysb/1967_Die-_Cut_Sheet_30_Titles.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7vchgxcysb/)
1) Not sure why, but Topps used large and small print for the "Wet Back..." instructions on the card backs. Back in the day (mid-80's) I assumed that one print run had a uniform small font size, and a subsequent printing had the larger font. But, it looks as if that wasn't the case...
2) This configuration contains 11 alternates (Maddie Boy x3)
3) Three "pulled" titles still remain (Boredom's, Alcohol Seltzer & Cracked Jerk)
4) When the alternate titles (yellow) and pulled titles (blue) are removed, the 30 titles used for the '73 1st Series remain.
5) If someone was collecting Wacky die-cuts when this configuration was printed, a complete set of cards containing #'s 1-44 would only have 33 unique titles and 11 repeats.
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it is my understanding that your sheet is the last version of die cut sheets before they made the transformation to the series 1 sticker format I have the uncut strips that represent that transition.
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it is my understanding that your sheet is the last version of die cut sheets before they made the transformation to the series 1 sticker format I have the uncut strips that represent that transition.
Only this is actually the final normal die cut sheet which has normal die cut backs and still has the three non-replaced non-repeats (Boredoms, Alcohol Seltzer, Cracked Jerk). As opposed to the "die cut test sheet" that Cheryl had.
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This is a partial die-cut sheet that I acquired back in '86.
(https://s1.postimg.org/1k3g71z5ej/20171103_213324-1_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/1k3g71z5ej/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/4ifqakck2j/20171103_213634-1_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ifqakck2j/)
OMG......That sheet looks so good it brings tears to my eyes!!! :'( :'(
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Only this is actually the final normal die cut sheet which has normal die cut backs and still has the three non-replaced non-repeats (Boredoms, Alcohol Seltzer, Cracked Jerk). As opposed to the "die cut test sheet" that Cheryl had.
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Is there a scan of her sheet somewhere? I assume it is a diecut version that matches my sticker strips?
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Is there a scan of her sheet somewhere? I assume it is a diecut version that matches my sticker strips?
Yes, and the backs are gray and unnumbered.
(https://s19.postimg.org/nkmzn23o3/image.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.org/k111x9vtf/image.jpg)
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(https://s1.postimg.org/2gcp0oau2z/20171103_213905_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2gcp0oau2z/)
Not sure why, but Topps used large and small print for the "Wet Back..." instructions on the card backs. Back in the day (mid-80's) I assumed that one print run had a uniform small font size, and a subsequent printing had the larger font. But, it looks as if that wasn't the case...
Hard to believe that was an error. Maybe there was a specific reason for this.
Is there a pattern to the position / distribution of the two font sizes on the sheet?
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Yes, and the backs are gray and unnumbered.
(https://s19.postimg.org/nkmzn23o3/image.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.org/k111x9vtf/image.jpg)
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So you need to update your "copyrighted" series 1 sheet evolution writeup with greg 8)
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Hard to believe that was an error. Maybe there was a specific reason for this.
Is there a pattern to the position / distribution of the two font sizes on the sheet?
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why there are some titles with the bold text while others have the smaller text.
Here's an image of the back of the sheet showing the placement of the title numbers with the bold font instructions. I've also included a list that matches these numbers to their respective titles.
(https://s1.postimg.org/7gln5ihbiz/1967_Die-_Cut_Sheet_Large_Font_Backs.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7gln5ihbiz/)
(https://s1.postimg.org/21n4n37bbv/1967_Die-_Cut_Sheet_Large_Font_Titles.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/21n4n37bbv/)
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There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why there are some titles with the bold text while others have the smaller text.
Here's an image of the back of the sheet showing the placement of the title numbers with the bold font instructions. I've also included a list that matches these numbers to their respective titles.
IIRC, the bold/standard font remained the same throughout all the sheets from full 44 titles onward
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IIRC, the bold/standard font remained the same throughout all the sheets from full 44 titles onward
I was thinking the same, because I didn't think that I'd ever seen any titles that had both bold and standard font variations. It's definitely one of those nagging mysteries as to why it was done that way.
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If you guys and gals want to see a topic that's somewhat similar to this, check out the one that I started called "OS and Topps-related characters in ANS Wackys".