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Title: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 12, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Welcome to Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging.

We show every single card from Wacky's ever, criticize them, make new versions of them, and show the packaging courtesy of Jason Liebig and others.


Diecuts #1 - Boredom's Coffee

Boredom's
Instant coffee
One cup puts you to sleep forever
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 12, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
Diecuts #2 - Fearstone

Fearstone
You'll tire of our tires
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 12, 2016, 01:12:22 PM
Diecuts #3 - Vicejoy

Vicejoy
Fungus Tip Cigarettes
Vicejoy's got the taste that rots
20 butts
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 12, 2016, 01:14:10 PM
These are all making up for what we've done on the other posts. Time to discuss.

As we've said, the first two, Boredom's and Fearstone, could have better gags. They aren't really that funny, and don't fit that well. If you have good ideas, feel free to comment them as done on the other forum.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 12, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
These are all making up for what we've done on the other posts. Time to discuss.

As we've said, the first two, Boredom's and Fearstone, could have better gags. They aren't really that funny, and don't fit that well. If you have good ideas, feel free to comment them as done on the other forum.
I think to make this effective, we need the real product tag line to know what the gag writers were trying to align.

Viceroy's got the tastes that right.

Vicejoy's got the sinful taste that delights.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 12, 2016, 07:16:32 PM
I think to make this effective, we need the real product tag line to know what the gag writers were trying to align.

Viceroy's got the tastes that right.

Vicejoy's got the sinful taste that delights.

I can't think of anything more suitable to "Vice Joy" but I might trim it a bit to:

Vicejoy's sinful taste delights.

That has the same "cadence" as Vicejoy's got the taste that's right.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 02:32:59 AM
Diecuts #4 - Camals

Here's what happens when you smoke
Camals
Jerkish Blend
(Secret message on side) Smoking cigarettes may be hazardous to your health


Original product:
Camel
Turkish and Domestic Blend Cigarettes


I can see the gag here, and I guess 'jerkish' was the best rhyming word they could come up with. I can't really suggest anything here because there really isn't anything marginally wrong with the gag that I can frown upon.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 13, 2016, 04:46:16 AM
Diecuts #4 - Camals

Here's what happens when you smoke
Camals
Jerkish Blend
(Secret message on side) Smoking cigarettes may be hazardous to your health


Original product:
Camel
Turkish and Domestic Blend Cigarettes


I can see the gag here, and I guess 'jerkish' was the best rhyming word they could come up with. I can't really suggest anything here because there really isn't anything marginally wrong with the gag that I can frown upon.

Agree.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 13, 2016, 04:51:25 AM
I can't think of anything more suitable to "Vice Joy" but I might trim it a bit to:

Vicejoy's sinful taste delights.

That has the same "cadence" as Vicejoy's got the taste that's right.

Or could go a different route on this one, something like:

For those who enjoy having their lungs feel like they're in a vice


Ideally a shorter version of this would be better, but in any case I think it's more in line with the "tobacco is for jerks" theme of Camals.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
Or could go a different route on this one, something like:

For those who enjoy having their lungs feel like they're in a vice


Ideally a shorter version of this would be better, but in any case I think it's more in line with the "tobacco is for jerks" theme of Camals.

Makes your lungs in a vice? I guess the "joy" part is missing in that one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 13, 2016, 01:05:57 PM
Makes your lungs in a vice? I guess the "joy" part is missing in that one.

That's why part of the quip is "For those who enjoy..."   Kinda lame on my part, I know, but jus' doin' the best I can....
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 01:10:16 PM
That's why part of the quip is "For those who enjoy..."   Kinda lame on my part, I know, but jus' doin' the best I can....

Or maybe they could make it into a phrase like "For those who vicejoy,..."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 13, 2016, 01:30:33 PM
This is not easy.  Now we kind of have a feel for what the Topps writers went through, and they had to deal with censorship as well!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
This is not easy.  Now we kind of have a feel for what the Topps writers went through, and they had to deal with censorship as well!

It isn't easy, comedy is far from it. But what we need to realize is that we've spend not even a week on it. It's not like Topps had a time restraint... They had years to come up with gags, so they could've made them better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 13, 2016, 02:40:14 PM
They had years to come up with gags, so they could've made them better.

How do you figure that? I'm sure the writers were under a lot of time pressure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 02:54:40 PM
How do you figure that? I'm sure the writers were under a lot of time pressure.

Do you really think so? I mean it's not like they already made it successful beforehand... I feel like 1973-1976 is when they were most pressured because of popularity and making sure to push out cards because of it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 13, 2016, 03:03:51 PM
I didn't realize you were referring specifically to the die cuts, I'm not sure what the situation was with that specific set.


Do you really think so? I mean it's not like they already made it successful beforehand... I feel like 1973-1976 is when they were most pressured because of popularity and making sure to push out cards because of it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 13, 2016, 03:04:34 PM
I didn't realize you were referring specifically to the die cuts, I'm not sure what the situation was with that specific set.

I'm not either, either way is a possibility.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 13, 2016, 04:55:09 PM
This is not easy.  Now we kind of have a feel for what the Topps writers went through, and they had to deal with censorship as well!
I disagree, this is not rocket science and we are not being paid for this and have come up with better gags with ease.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 13, 2016, 05:01:59 PM
How do you figure that? I'm sure the writers were under a lot of time pressure.
Who picked the products to make the gags?  Did the comic writers come up with product gag combos ie don't pick a product that doesn't lend itself to gags. Regardless watch how well we do.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 13, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
Diecuts #4 - Camals

Here's what happens when you smoke
Camals
Jerkish Blend
(Secret message on side) Smoking cigarettes may be hazardous to your health


Original product:
Camel
Turkish and Domestic Blend Cigarettes


I can see the gag here, and I guess 'jerkish' was the best rhyming word they could come up with. I can't really suggest anything here because there really isn't anything marginally wrong with the gag that I can frown upon.
First off, I would never pick this product to spoof but assuming they had to, I would have shown a rope around the Camels neck being jerked up with the tagline just as it is.  See, from weak gag to meaningful gag in two seconds....
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on September 13, 2016, 07:29:10 PM
First off, I would never pick this product to spoof but assuming they had to, I would have shown a rope around the Camels neck being jerked up with the tagline just as it is.  See, from weak gag to meaningful gag in two seconds....

That is definitely a better gag, nice! I seem to recall Jay explaining the Camal reference as having something to do with a politician in Egypt in the late 60's.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 13, 2016, 07:43:13 PM
That is definitely a better gag, nice! I seem to recall Jay explaining the Camal reference as having something to do with a politician in Egypt in the late 60's.
Well I am sure 99% of all grammar school kids who wackys were aimed as the target buying audience were all over tracking politicians in Egypt in the late 60s  :-\
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 14, 2016, 02:26:09 AM
Diecuts #5 - Campy

Campy
Condemned
Spider Soup


Real Product
Campbells
Condensed
Tomato Soup


What I personally think what would've been funny here is saying "Made with Demented Tomatoes" But the real question is, what does campy mean? I do really like this card either way, so discuss!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 14, 2016, 04:47:44 AM
Diecuts #5 - Campy

Campy
Condemned
Spider Soup


Real Product
Campbells
Condensed
Tomato Soup


What I personally think what would've been funny here is saying "Made with Demented Tomatoes" But the real question is, what does campy mean? I do really like this card either way, so discuss!

Being so extreme that it has an amusing and sometimes perversely sophisticated appeal. Over the top and farcical, intentionally exaggerated so as not to be taken seriously. Found primarily in television, theatre and motion pictures, camp endeavors for satire and, for those who fully understand and appreciate the risible nature of its material, it's not surprising when it develops a cult following.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 14, 2016, 12:04:08 PM
Being so extreme that it has an amusing and sometimes perversely sophisticated appeal. Over the top and farcical, intentionally exaggerated so as not to be taken seriously. Found primarily in television, theatre and motion pictures, camp endeavors for satire and, for those who fully understand and appreciate the risible nature of its material, it's not surprising when it develops a cult following.

Hmm.. Sounds like a foreign language to me. I guess it sort of made sense in the last two words of that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 14, 2016, 01:26:55 PM
Hmm.. Sounds like a foreign language to me. I guess it sort of made sense in the last two words of that.

The Batman TV series from the 60s is an example.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 14, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
The Batman TV series from the 60s is an example.

Ah,
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 14, 2016, 02:22:04 PM
The Batman TV series from the 60s is an example.

Perfect example.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Beanball on September 14, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
Perfect example.
               
I'm liking this thread. Star Wars would be a fine example. Do not think spider soup would taste all that good though. Anyone ever try it?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 14, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
Being so extreme that it has an amusing and sometimes perversely sophisticated appeal. Over the top and farcical, intentionally exaggerated so as not to be taken seriously. Found primarily in television, theatre and motion pictures, camp endeavors for satire and, for those who fully understand and appreciate the risible nature of its material, it's not surprising when it develops a cult following.
so how does that definition of Campy help explain this gag?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 14, 2016, 07:49:00 PM
Diecuts #5 - Campy

Campy
Condemned
Spider Soup


Real Product
Campbells
Condensed
Tomato Soup


What I personally think what would've been funny here is saying "Made with Demented Tomatoes" But the real question is, what does campy mean? I do really like this card either way, so discuss!
Crampy
Constipated
Fiber soup

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 15, 2016, 02:14:22 AM
Crampy
Constipated
Fiber soup

That's too good. How much thought did you put into that?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 15, 2016, 02:18:32 AM
Diecuts #6 - Slum Maid

Slum Maid
Seedy
Raisins


Real Product
Sun Maid
Seedless
Raisins


They could've at least come up with something better than "seedy".. A lot of boxes and items never had pictures and they added them, so why not add another gag to this one.. Like "These will get you there."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on September 15, 2016, 05:09:17 AM
Diecuts #6 - Slum Maid

Slum Maid
Seedy
Raisins


Real Product
Sun Maid
Seedless
Raisins


They could've at least come up with something better than "seedy".. A lot of boxes and items never had pictures and they added them, so why not add another gag to this one.. Like "These will get you there."

"Needless"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 15, 2016, 05:24:32 AM
That's too good. How much thought did you put into that?
I'll admit this one took me several minutes and some wikipedia digging to give me ideas as it was a hard one to spoof.  Most of the others are the first thing that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on September 15, 2016, 08:21:48 AM
They could've at least come up with something better than "seedy"..
Actually, I think this one is more clever than most, as "seedy" ties in well with "slum", as in "those slums are definitely in the seedy part of town".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 15, 2016, 12:07:05 PM
Actually, I think this one is more clever than most, as "seedy" ties in well with "slum", as in "those slums are definitely in the seedy part of town".

Yes but only people thinking about it are going to get the clever part of the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 15, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
Actually, I think this one is more clever than most, as "seedy" ties in well with "slum", as in "those slums are definitely in the seedy part of town".

I agree. I think that's a great gag

I assume the slum maid is wearing top made from a flour sack.

She should have been serving something more appropriate, such as instant ramen, white bread, and soda pop.   And cigarettes.


   (http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/die-cuts/fronts/slum_6_front_small_smaller_images.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 15, 2016, 02:04:41 PM
The "plate" appears to be an homage to the old cartoon stereotype  of a meal picked from a trash can served on an upside down  trash can lid ala TOP CAT.  I have always thought this was a pretty solid Wacky in terms of gag and execution.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 15, 2016, 03:44:24 PM
I guess seedy also of course works in the "close to the original word" category, but "shady" raisins is good too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on September 15, 2016, 05:39:02 PM
Yes but only people thinking about it are going to get the clever part of the gag.
Which is what makes it clever.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 15, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
The "plate" appears to be an homage to the old cartoon stereotype  of a meal picked from a trash can served on an upside down  trash can lid ala TOP CAT.  I have always thought this was a pretty solid Wacky in terms of gag and execution.
I agree, I think this gag is well done and the only one in our set so far.

If I were to come up with my own, I was going with
Sun Fade
Dried up Raisins

With the art being a box of full of sun scorched gasping raisins.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 16, 2016, 03:46:58 AM
Diecuts #7 - Spray Nit

Helene Cootie's
Spray Nit
Hair infester
Puts life in your scalp
Price 4 nits


Real product
Helene Curtis
Spray Net
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 16, 2016, 04:11:27 AM
Diecuts #7 - Spray Nit

Helene Cootie's
Spray Nit
Hair infester
Puts life in your scalp
Price 4 nits


Real product
Helene Curtis
Spray Net



IMO, another strong Wacky title with good gags and artwork. Nits, of course, being Lice eggs. The Curtis/Cooties is a nice play on words that dovetails into the critters theme on this one. "Puts life in your scalp"... nice.  My only suggested improvement would be replace scalp with hair since hair product advertising focuses on "life" and "volume" of hair. 

(https://s21.postimg.org/ll5kj12cz/spray_nit.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ll5kj12cz/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/a64v8jsdr/spray_net.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a64v8jsdr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 16, 2016, 10:32:53 AM
The "plate" appears to be an homage to the old cartoon stereotype  of a meal picked from a trash can served on an upside down  trash can lid ala TOP CAT.

Ah, I never realized that! Excellent. I always thought the "serving tray" was a bit large.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 16, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
The Spray Nit gag is pretty good.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 16, 2016, 07:45:10 PM

IMO, another strong Wacky title with good gags and artwork. Nits, of course, being Lice eggs. The Curtis/Cooties is a nice play on words that dovetails into the critters theme on this one. "Puts life in your scalp"... nice.  My only suggested improvement would be replace scalp with hair since hair product advertising focuses on "life" and "volume" of hair. 

(https://s21.postimg.org/ll5kj12cz/spray_nit.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ll5kj12cz/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/a64v8jsdr/spray_net.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a64v8jsdr/)
I feel the  Helene Cooties is unnecessary and clutters up the gag.  I think the gag writers got lost a bit in feeling they needs to rhyme or use every word on the product.   Otherwise pretty strong gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 17, 2016, 03:21:04 AM
Diecuts #8 - Lavirus

Lavirus
R
Mouthwash and gurgle
More dentists recommend Lavirus because it brings patients


Real Product
Lavoris
Mouthwash and Gargle
More dentists use Lavoris
than any other mouthwash


I really think this is a strong card not just because of the artwork, but also the gag. One thing I don't like is that the gag says "Because it brings patients" that shouldn't be brought up in my opinion, it makes it a very long joke when it could've been shorter. Other than that, I really like this gag and card.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 17, 2016, 05:46:27 AM
Diecuts #8 - Lavirus

Lavirus
R
Mouthwash and gurgle
More dentists recommend Lavirus because it brings patients


Real Product
Lavoris
Mouthwash and Gargle
More dentists use Lavoris
than any other mouthwash


I really think this is a strong card not just because of the artwork, but also the gag. One thing I don't like is that the gag says "Because it brings patients" that shouldn't be brought up in my opinion, it makes it a very long joke when it could've been shorter. Other than that, I really like this gag and card.
Changing gargle to gurgle is of no value and hurts the gag, if mouthwash could be used, then leave Gargle in there.  I think it should "doctors recommend" as Dentists don't deal with Virus's.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 17, 2016, 07:36:49 AM
Diecuts #8 - Lavirus

Lavirus
R
Mouthwash and gurgle
More dentists recommend Lavirus because it brings patients


Real Product
Lavoris
Mouthwash and Gargle
More dentists use Lavoris
than any other mouthwash


I really think this is a strong card not just because of the artwork, but also the gag. One thing I don't like is that the gag says "Because it brings patients" that shouldn't be brought up in my opinion, it makes it a very long joke when it could've been shorter. Other than that, I really like this gag and card.


How about a change up on the tag line to be... "More morticians recommend Lavirus
than any other mouthwash" 

(https://s22.postimg.org/zd1pcc33h/lavirus.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zd1pcc33h/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/wd5fmtf0z/Lavoris.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wd5fmtf0z/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 17, 2016, 10:22:31 AM
"Recommended by dentists who want more patients"


Diecuts #8 - Lavirus

Lavirus
R
Mouthwash and gurgle
More dentists recommend Lavirus because it brings patients


Real Product
Lavoris
Mouthwash and Gargle
More dentists use Lavoris
than any other mouthwash


I really think this is a strong card not just because of the artwork, but also the gag. One thing I don't like is that the gag says "Because it brings patients" that shouldn't be brought up in my opinion, it makes it a very long joke when it could've been shorter. Other than that, I really like this gag and card.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 18, 2016, 02:43:47 AM
Diecuts #9 - Paul Maul

Paul Maul
Peculiar Cigarettes
Wherever peculiar people congregate
In hock shops everywhere


Real product
Pall Mall
Famous Cigarettes
Wherever particular people congregate
In Hoc Signo Vinces
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 06:03:11 AM
"Recommended by dentists who want more patients"
Isn't the core of the spoof, the "virus" part of Lavirus?  Why Dentists over Doctors? How many dentists get patients due to virus?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 06:03:48 AM

How about a change up on the tag line to be... "More morticians recommend Lavoris
than any other mouthwash" 

(https://s22.postimg.org/zd1pcc33h/lavirus.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zd1pcc33h/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/wd5fmtf0z/Lavoris.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wd5fmtf0z/)
I don't think the actual product name is allowed to be anywhere in the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 06:12:30 AM
Diecuts #9 - Paul Maul

Paul Maul
Peculiar Cigarettes
Wherever peculiar people congregate
In hock shops everywhere


Real product
Pall Mall
Famous Cigarettes
Wherever particular people congregate
In Hoc Signo Vinces


Has to be some 1960's inside joke that kids couldn't possible get.  Other than Paul Maul being notorious for being short printed in series 1 and being an original diecut title, this is a complete bomb in my book.

How about:
Paul Mall
Famous Vinettes
Where people named Paul Congregate
In Cigarette packs

The art would be cigarettes with people's faces such as Paul McCartney, Paul Newman, Paul Revere
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 18, 2016, 06:23:55 AM
Has to be some 1960's inside joke that kids couldn't possible get.  Other than Paul Maul being notorious for being short printed in series 1 and being an original diecut title, this is a complete bomb in my book.

How about:
Paul Mall
Famous Vinettes
Where people named Paul Congregate
In Cigarette packs

The art would be cigarettes with people's faces such as Paul McCartney, Paul Newman, Paul Revere

Originates in Pauland.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 07:00:54 AM
Originates in Pauland.
:great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 18, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
True, but I understand sticking with "dentists" because that was part of the Lavoris slogan and dentists would recommend a mouthwash over a doctor. In my mind, it can give you a virus as cause lots of damage to your mouth.

These were aimed at kids, and as a kid, I LOVED this title.
To me, this one was a roaring success.

Isn't the core of the spoof, the "virus" part of Lavirus?  Why Dentists over Doctors? How many dentists get patients due to virus?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 18, 2016, 09:19:07 AM
This one shows a tendency to make slight changes. Change "particular" to "peculiar." (Which I really like.) Change "hoc" to "hock." The art is designed to be almost passable as the real product, unless you take a second glance.

This title never did much for me as a kid, but I appreciate it more as an adult for some reason. I used to think it looked plain, but now I think the subtle characters look goofy and funny. Or maybe I'm swayed by the fact that it's harder to find!

Diecuts #9 - Paul Maul

Paul Maul
Peculiar Cigarettes
Wherever peculiar people congregate
In hock shops everywhere


Real product
Pall Mall
Famous Cigarettes
Wherever particular people congregate
In Hoc Signo Vinces

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 18, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I could not have cared less about gag quality as a kid. I was drawn to the realistic packaging art, the characters, and anything that looked cool and unique. I loved the cigarette titles just because there was something different about them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 11:14:25 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I could not have cared less about gag quality as a kid. I was drawn to the realistic packaging art, the characters, and anything that looked cool and unique. I loved the cigarette titles just because there was something different about them.
I agree that the total gag didn't make or break it as a kid yet every kid in the neighborhood knew about Mrs Klean's desire to wipe the floor with Mr. Klean and annoyed our teachers by chewing bubble gum in class.  Gag's were way more than a 0% influence for my whole gang.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on September 18, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I could not have cared less about gag quality as a kid. I was drawn to the realistic packaging art, the characters, and anything that looked cool and unique. I loved the cigarette titles just because there was something different about them.

The realistic packaging drew me in, too, but I also preferred the ones that had great gags to boot.  I think that's why I so liked Awful Bits and Cap'n Crud - not only did they capture the boxes, there were really funny gags about products we actually had in the house!  Ajerx too - really looked like the can, and had that wonderful character.  Although the gag eluded me on Blunder, it looked just like my beloved Wonder Bread, and that guy was so darn goofy!  I wore my Blunder t-shirt until it was threadbare.

My parents didn't smoke, so I mostly only saw cigarette packages behind the counter, but that was enough for me to really like Camals!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
I can only speak for myself, but I could not have cared less about gag quality as a kid. I was drawn to the realistic packaging art, the characters, and anything that looked cool and unique. I loved the cigarette titles just because there was something different about them.
I think you will find this thread to be frustrating since it is titled and has been about critiquing the gags.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 18, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
I was only six when the 1st series came out, so I may have been too young to really think much about the gags.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 18, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
I think you will find this thread to be frustrating since it is titled and has been about critiquing the gags.

Seems like an appropriate place to discuss how important gags are to you. But I have nothing further to add so I'll leave you to it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 11:40:11 AM
The realistic packaging drew me in, too, but I also preferred the ones that had great gags to boot.  I think that's why I so liked Awful Bits and Cap'n Crud - not only did they capture the boxes, there were really funny gags about products we actually had in the house!  Ajerx too - really looked like the can, and had that wonderful character.  Although the gag eluded me on Blunder, it looked just like my beloved Wonder Bread, and that guy was so darn goofy!  I wore my Blunder t-shirt until it was threadbare.

My parents didn't smoke, so I mostly only saw cigarette packages behind the counter, but that was enough for me to really like Camals!
And we ALL remembered the wacky titles which of course is part of the gag,I doubt we ever said the word "hostess" in our house after seeing Hostage cupcakes.  Peanuts have always been  "Plastered".  We loved calling everything Dopey Whip and that sure isn't one the best art pieces.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
Seems like an appropriate place to discuss how important gags are to you. But I have nothing further to add so I'll leave you to it.
Me and the others playing along. I think you have a lot to offer as you are a bright guy but if you don't find any fun in redoing the original gags, so be it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 18, 2016, 05:48:28 PM
I've always thought Camals was a great sight gag with the upside down camel. And also spot on in taking on cigarettes. The rest of the text didn't matter much to me, including the meaningless title, because it was both powerful (cigarettes will kill you) and funny (camel balancing on its hump.)

But, yeah, Awful Bits and especially Cap'n Crud ruled. Cap'n Crunch was one of my fave cereals at the time and the sticker has such a great character. "Inside: Real Pirate!" struck me as funny.

But maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves...

The realistic packaging drew me in, too, but I also preferred the ones that had great gags to boot.  I think that's why I so liked Awful Bits and Cap'n Crud - not only did they capture the boxes, there were really funny gags about products we actually had in the house!  Ajerx too - really looked like the can, and had that wonderful character.  Although the gag eluded me on Blunder, it looked just like my beloved Wonder Bread, and that guy was so darn goofy!  I wore my Blunder t-shirt until it was threadbare.

My parents didn't smoke, so I mostly only saw cigarette packages behind the counter, but that was enough for me to really like Camals!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 18, 2016, 05:54:15 PM
Although I was older when I started collecting, I had some of that in me, too. Only years later did I realize there were some stickers where I didn't even read the whole thing! And I always loved a good gag!

I can only speak for myself, but I could not have cared less about gag quality as a kid. I was drawn to the realistic packaging art, the characters, and anything that looked cool and unique. I loved the cigarette titles just because there was something different about them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
I've always thought Camals was a great sight gag with the upside down camel. And also spot on in taking on cigarettes. The rest of the text didn't matter much to me, including the meaningless title, because it was both powerful (cigarettes will kill you) and funny (camel balancing on its hump.)

But, yeah, Awful Bits and especially Cap'n Crud ruled. Cap'n Crunch was one of my fave cereals at the time and the sticker has such a great character. "Inside: Real Pirate!" struck me as funny.

But maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves...
I agree with you that Camals from a lasting image and knock on cigarettes is effective!  Looks like we all can't wait to get deeper into series 1 and 2 :-)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 18, 2016, 06:00:10 PM
Although I was older when I started collecting, I had some of that in me, too. Only years later did I realize there were some stickers where I didn't even read the whole thing! And I always loved a good gag!
Many of us never realized until recently that Skimpy said beanut putter.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 19, 2016, 02:35:53 AM
I agree with you that Camals from a lasting image and knock on cigarettes is effective!  Looks like we all can't wait to get deeper into series 1 and 2 :-)

This was a question I've been meaning to ask.. Should Wacky Ads and Series 2 both be done, and also Series 1?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 19, 2016, 02:39:45 AM
Diecuts #10 - Dopey Whip

Dopey Whip
Dessert Topping
Use for all purposes


Real Product
Lucky Whip
Dessert Topping


What really bothers me here is that they never changed dessert topping, they could've made it "Desert Topping". I mean, it is Dopey Whip, right?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on September 19, 2016, 05:07:47 AM
This was a question I've been meaning to ask.. Should Wacky Ads and Series 2 both be done, and also Series 1?

Sorry if I sidetracked things by mentioning later titles.   :-[

Series 1 will be covered by the die cuts.  The Wacky Ads/Series 2 question is tougher, but the Ads include some titles that weren't used later, as well as extra gags, so it seems to make sense to go through those since this thread is basically about the gags.  Maybe with Series 2 just go through the titles that were brand new, and Gurgle Baby Food, since that changed?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2016, 09:00:54 AM
Diecuts #10 - Dopey Whip

Dopey Whip
Dessert Topping
Use for all purposes


Real Product
Lucky Whip
Dessert Topping





What really bothers me here is that they never changed dessert topping, they could've made it "Desert Topping". I mean, it is Dopey Whip, right?
(http://s18.postimg.org/xn4uxh3px/dopey_whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xn4uxh3px/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/9xk0miuqd/Lucky_Whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9xk0miuqd/)

Since its Dopey Whip, why not: "Duh"-sert topping?   Or since there is a practical joke being perpetrated on the front, how about "Just Desserts Topping"?

I always really liked the artwork and can/foam rendering on this one. Extra points for strong visual appeal  but minus a few parody points.  Lucky to Dopey is a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: slamjim on September 19, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
(http://s18.postimg.org/xn4uxh3px/dopey_whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xn4uxh3px/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/9xk0miuqd/Lucky_Whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9xk0miuqd/)

Since its Dopey Whip, why not: "Duh"-sert topping?   Or since there is a practical joke being perpetrated on the front, how about "Just Desserts Topping"?

I always really liked the artwork and can/foam rendering on this one. Extra points for strong visual appeal  but minus a few parody points.  Lucky to Dopey is a bit of a stretch.

Yeah, Lucky to Dopey always bothered me as well. Could have just gone with Unlucky Whip. The foaming can at the top can stay the same as the can exploding in your face is the gag. Keep both figures and just change the guy foaming the face of the other guy and laughing into the guy pointing and laughing as the guy has the can exploding into his face as he opens it. Maybe change Dessert Topping to Defective Topping
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 19, 2016, 12:47:17 PM
"Just Desserts Topping." I like that!

(http://s18.postimg.org/xn4uxh3px/dopey_whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xn4uxh3px/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/9xk0miuqd/Lucky_Whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9xk0miuqd/)

Since its Dopey Whip, why not: "Duh"-sert topping?   Or since there is a practical joke being perpetrated on the front, how about "Just Desserts Topping"?

I always really liked the artwork and can/foam rendering on this one. Extra points for strong visual appeal  but minus a few parody points.  Lucky to Dopey is a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 19, 2016, 12:52:07 PM
A little off topic: One thing I appreciate about the original series is the artistic license taken to fill out the sticker. You can see how much longer and thinner the actual can is, but the sticker works because the ratio was altered so the art would fill out the canvas. It makes such a difference.

In my mind, too many of the ANS images were made exactly to scale and got lost with too much white space on the card. Not to mention practically needing a magnifying glass to read the smaller type.


(http://s18.postimg.org/xn4uxh3px/dopey_whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xn4uxh3px/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/9xk0miuqd/Lucky_Whip.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9xk0miuqd/)

Since its Dopey Whip, why not: "Duh"-sert topping?   Or since there is a practical joke being perpetrated on the front, how about "Just Desserts Topping"?

I always really liked the artwork and can/foam rendering on this one. Extra points for strong visual appeal  but minus a few parody points.  Lucky to Dopey is a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 19, 2016, 12:54:28 PM
I don't think the ads sold very well so they rebooted and used the same titles on stickers. As for me, I'm happy they did.

This was a question I've been meaning to ask.. Should Wacky Ads and Series 2 both be done, and also Series 1?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 19, 2016, 05:01:37 PM
Diecuts #6 - Slum Maid

Slum Maid
Seedy
Raisins


Real Product
Sun Maid
Seedless
Raisins


How about Slum Maid....Sleezy Maidens!

They could've at least come up with something better than "seedy".. A lot of boxes and items never had pictures and they added them, so why not add another gag to this one.. Like "These will get you there."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 19, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
Changing gargle to gurgle is of no value and hurts the gag, if mouthwash could be used, then leave Gargle in there.  I think it should "doctors recommend" as Dentists don't deal with Virus's.

How about:

you'll slur your words with...

Lavirus -- Mouthwash and Garble

It'll make you speechless!


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 19, 2016, 05:08:19 PM
True, but I understand sticking with "dentists" because that was part of the Lavoris slogan and dentists would recommend a mouthwash over a doctor. In my mind, it can give you a virus as cause lots of damage to your mouth.

These were aimed at kids, and as a kid, I LOVED this title.
To me, this one was a roaring success.

I just always loved this one because the artwork was one of the best ever.  Loved the creatures in the bottle.  Similar to My Sink.  The stuff in the bottle make it an awesome Wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on September 19, 2016, 06:42:19 PM
I agree. I think that's a great gag

I assume the slum maid is wearing top made from a flour sack.

She should have been serving something more appropriate, such as instant ramen, white bread, and soda pop.   And cigarettes.


   (http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/die-cuts/fronts/slum_6_front_small_smaller_images.jpg)

I disagree. Fish bones and tin cans is an excellent visual for someone living in a 1960s cartoon world slum, digging out of garbage cans. Ramen noodles are kind of a "modern age" thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on September 19, 2016, 06:50:38 PM
That is definitely a better gag, nice! I seem to recall Jay explaining the Camal reference as having something to do with a politician in Egypt in the late 60's.
Yep - I think I remember reading that the spoof was inspired by an Egyptian politician named Gamals.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 19, 2016, 07:01:36 PM
"Seedy" is absolutely perfect!

Diecuts #6 - Slum Maid

Slum Maid
Seedy
Raisins


Real Product
Sun Maid
Seedless
Raisins


They could've at least come up with something better than "seedy".. A lot of boxes and items never had pictures and they added them, so why not add another gag to this one.. Like "These will get you there."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 19, 2016, 07:03:36 PM
How dare you?! I am offended, sir!

Changing gargle to gurgle is of no value and hurts the gag
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 19, 2016, 07:25:25 PM
How dare you?! I am offended, sir!

Agreed. Gurgle is definitely a funnier word than Gargle. And implies less free will. Of course, as we are being reminded in this thread, humor is VERY subjective.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on September 19, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Yep - I think I remember reading that the spoof was inspired by an Egyptian politician named Gamals.

That's it! According to Wikipedia Gamal Abdel Nasser was the second president of Egypt, serving from 1956 until his death in 1970.

I wondered why my search for Camal and Egypt was fruitless. Thanks!!

Still a lousy gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 19, 2016, 07:29:55 PM
This was a question I've been meaning to ask.. Should Wacky Ads and Series 2 both be done, and also Series 1?
Series 1 will be covered by the diecut set.  Lets do series 2 through the wacky ads so we can knock off some of the non repeats in the wacky ad set.  The fun part of this thread, no rules, we will bounce around a bit as it happens naturally.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 19, 2016, 07:35:45 PM
Yeah, Lucky to Dopey always bothered me as well. Could have just gone with Unlucky Whip. The foaming can at the top can stay the same as the can exploding in your face is the gag. Keep both figures and just change the guy foaming the face of the other guy and laughing into the guy pointing and laughing as the guy has the can exploding into his face as he opens it. Maybe change Dessert Topping to Defective Topping
I love it!  Maybe even Mucky whip.  I did love saying "dopey whip" but this gag is really weak.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 19, 2016, 07:36:38 PM
A little off topic: One thing I appreciate about the original series is the artistic license taken to fill out the sticker. You can see how much longer and thinner the actual can is, but the sticker works because the ratio was altered so the art would fill out the canvas. It makes such a difference.

In my mind, too many of the ANS images were made exactly to scale and got lost with too much white space on the card. Not to mention practically needing a magnifying glass to read the smaller type.
Toadally agree! Wider art, less congestion of the words!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 20, 2016, 02:36:59 AM
Diecuts #11 - Cracked Jerk

Cracked Jerk
Surprise nothing inside!


Real product
Cracker Jack
Toy Surprise Inside
Candied Popcorn and nuts


They really went minimalist with this one.. Why not Nopcorn and Puts?  :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 20, 2016, 12:01:29 PM
Looks like Cracked Jerk is a bum card around here..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 20, 2016, 12:08:55 PM
I disagree. Fish bones and tin cans is an excellent visual for someone living in a 1960s cartoon world slum, digging out of garbage cans. Ramen noodles are kind of a "modern age" thing.

I guess I'm not quite old enough to remember people digging stuff out of garbage cans.

On the other hand, back in 1995 I went through a tough period, using drugs, and me and a buddy
dug food out of a dumpster at a large grocery outlet. Food that was slightly out of date and
produce that was a bit on the old side. We had a feast. And then we smoked some more crack.

Seriously. We were a couple of cracked jerks.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 20, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
I like the character's expression of horror.   Is there a reason the dog is biting the leg that feeds him?


   (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Cracked%20jerk_zpsibyjy4bh.png)

(Thanks to Jason and Greg for their fine images)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 20, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
I like the character's expression of horror.   Is there a reason the dog is biting the leg that feeds him?


   (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Cracked%20jerk_zpsibyjy4bh.png)

(Thanks to Jason and Greg for their fine images)

Perhaps, the dog is the title Jerk. I always liked this one. Nice and simple. Gag economy. I consumed a lot of Cracker Jack as a kid and always had a special place for the Wacky parodies of the products I used. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on September 20, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Perhaps, the dog is the title Jerk. I always liked this one. Nice and simple. Gag economy. I consumed a lot of Cracker Jack as a kid and always had a special place for the Wacky parodies of the products I used.

Seems like "Boring" could have gone where "Borden" was.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on September 20, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
Seems like "Boring" could have gone where "Borden" was.

How about a tag line like - broken snack pieces

Or - it'll break your teeth

Or - snack for jerks who dress like sailors

I'm guessing they would frown on substituting "seamen" for "sailors"

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 20, 2016, 06:30:45 PM
Seems like "Boring" could have gone where "Borden" was.

I like that. Or even "Boredom" or "Burden" to mimic the actual. Ya know... it may be cool to see some of these "re-imaginings" of original series titles done up for the 50th anniversary. Who do we know that is artistic?  :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 20, 2016, 07:01:52 PM
That's it! According to Wikipedia Gamal Abdel Nasser was the second president of Egypt, serving from 1956 until his death in 1970.

I wondered why my search for Camal and Egypt was fruitless. Thanks!!

Still a lousy gag.

I read somewhere that yes, the gag is based on Gamals, but it was also lifted from a MAD magazine joke as well
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on September 20, 2016, 07:16:59 PM
I read somewhere that yes, the gag is based on Gamals, but it was also lifted from a MAD magazine joke as well

Interesting, thanks!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 21, 2016, 02:32:20 AM
Diecuts #12 - Crust

Crust
Garlic Flavor
Tooth Paste
Tastes Lousy
Brush teeth twice a month


Real Product
Crest
Fluoristan
Toothpaste
Large Size


The gags here are stretching from the original product, but they are good.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 21, 2016, 06:38:40 AM
Diecuts #12 - Crust

Crust
Garlic Flavor
Tooth Paste
Tastes Lousy
Brush teeth twice a month


Real Product
Crest
Fluoristan
Toothpaste
Large Size


The gags here are stretching from the original product, but they are good.


Another simple, straight forward title. Seems like something could be done with "flouristan" like "taste you can't stand". Another product we used at our house so a favorite.

(http://s10.postimg.org/6cbpr0cpx/Crest_Box.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6cbpr0cpx/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/4yk2vpdgl/crust.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4yk2vpdgl/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 21, 2016, 09:11:55 AM
Good example of simple and effective. I was SO familiar with the packaging of this product and that always helped. It seemed radical to see the iconic character on Cracker Jack being bitten by his dog. It was so subversive and delightful. Of course, I was young and that was a long time ago when things were simpler.

"Surprise! Nothing Inside!" always worked for me, too.



I like the character's expression of horror.   Is there a reason the dog is biting the leg that feeds him?


   (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Cracked%20jerk_zpsibyjy4bh.png)

(Thanks to Jason and Greg for their fine images)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 21, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
Since the name is Crust and it rots teeth, it might have worked to have it be frosting.

Diecuts #12 - Crust

Crust
Garlic Flavor
Tooth Paste
Tastes Lousy
Brush teeth twice a month


Real Product
Crest
Fluoristan
Toothpaste
Large Size


The gags here are stretching from the original product, but they are good.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on September 21, 2016, 09:23:43 AM
Since the name is Crust and it rots teeth, it might have worked to have it be frosting.

Yeah, garlic wouldn't do much damage to teeth. "Frosting Flavor" or maybe "Cement tooth paste" would be better supporting text for a product called "Crust" which would destroy your teeth.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 21, 2016, 11:39:51 AM
Come to think of it, crust is for pie and frosting is for cake, so I'm not sure that makes sense after all.

Since the name is Crust and it rots teeth, it might have worked to have it be frosting.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 22, 2016, 02:18:11 AM
Diecuts #13 - Kook Aid

Kook Aid
Instant soft drink mix (up)
2 Quarts will drive you kooky


Real product
Kool Aid
Instant Soft Drink - Add sugar
Makes 2 Quarts
Grape Imitation Flavor


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: BustedFinger on September 22, 2016, 09:15:08 AM
(http://s10.postimg.org/4yk2vpdgl/crust.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4yk2vpdgl/)

I've always said that Crust is the most iconic Wacky to me.  I think it is a perfect gag for a toothpaste parody and they only had to change one letter of the product name! Also the fact that it was on the Original Series wrappers made it special.  Whenever I explain to someone what Wacky Packages are, I always use "Crust instead of Crest" as an example.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 22, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
Diecuts #13 - Kook Aid

Kook Aid
Instant soft drink mix (up)
2 Quarts will drive you kooky


Real product
Kool Aid
Instant Soft Drink - Add sugar
Makes 2 Quarts
Grape Imitation Flavor


Like CRUST, this is one I always considered an iconic WP. Another simple one letter replacement in the name. The kid fishing in the pitcher always makes me smile. The kooky, mixed-up face on the pitcher ties this one all together nicely. (I always thought that smiling face wiped in the pitcher perspiration on the actual Kool-Aid packet was one of those instances of marketing genius).  One of my favorite 5 Wackies of all time. This is another product we consumed in mass quantities at my household. I think my mother was brainwashed into believing that sugar was good for us. Few things can transport me back to being 10 years old like a packet of Kool-Aid, or a Kook-Aid sticker.

(http://s15.postimg.org/41vi4sdqv/Kook_aid2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/41vi4sdqv/)

(http://s15.postimg.org/fs9fm66jb/kookaid1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fs9fm66jb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: jaylynch on September 22, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
It was thru this ish of Cracked mag that we all got together and did fanzines as kids.  Paul Laikin was editor, and he wrote this piece.  Later he worked on the Wacky stuff with us and so a few of the basic old Cracked gags are repeated on Wackys years later.  http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/1st-series/1st-series-Camals-r.htm

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 23, 2016, 02:24:06 AM
Diecuts #14 - Alcohol Seltzer

Get drunk with
Alcohol Seltzer
Hic Hic


Real product
Alka Seltzer

I can't read the rest of the words there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 23, 2016, 07:19:33 AM
I've always said that Crust is the most iconic Wacky to me.  I think it is a perfect gag for a toothpaste parody and they only had to change one letter of the product name! Also the fact that it was on the Original Series wrappers made it special.  Whenever I explain to someone what Wacky Packages are, I always use "Crust instead of Crest" as an example.

Agreed.  Simple but effective, and very memorable.  Looking at the actual package from the early seventies, it seems they decided to switch the location of the red triangle.  I wonder why?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 23, 2016, 08:13:44 AM
Diecuts #14 - Alcohol Seltzer

Get drunk with
Alcohol Seltzer
Hic Hic


Real product
Alka Seltzer

I can't read the rest of the words there.

Decent parody on this WP but it was never one of my favorites. Not a household item for us either. We got Baking Soda and water when we had stomach aches. Its interesting that a caricature of Speedy, the Alka-Seltzer mascot, was used on the WP but did not appear on the actual product. This may reflect how much exposure he had at the time from the television commercials and print ads.

(http://s21.postimg.org/pxkcw2cyb/alcohol_selter1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pxkcw2cyb/)

(http://s21.postimg.org/tv7mlgzrn/alcohol_selter2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tv7mlgzrn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 23, 2016, 09:46:40 AM
Great image, simple gag. I really like the quirky addition of having a kid fishing in the pitcher. Unusual stuff like that can add so much interest.

Diecuts #13 - Kook Aid

Kook Aid
Instant soft drink mix (up)
2 Quarts will drive you kooky


Real product
Kool Aid
Instant Soft Drink - Add sugar
Makes 2 Quarts
Grape Imitation Flavor

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 24, 2016, 01:57:32 AM
Diecuts #15 - Demented Tomatoes

Demented
Rotten Tomatoes


Real product
Del Monte
Stewed Tomatoes


If you ask me, this is a perfect example of a simple, but effective gag. Also, the artwork is great. Definitely up there with my favorite Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 24, 2016, 07:47:14 AM
Diecuts #15 - Demented Tomatoes

Demented
Rotten Tomatoes


Real product
Del Monte
Stewed Tomatoes


If you ask me, this is a perfect example of a simple, but effective gag. Also, the artwork is great. Definitely up there with my favorite Wackys.

The dead eye on the tomato on the right, has always made this one terrific for me. Nice parody, great artwork. This one scared my younger sister so I could chase her around the house with it for hours. Torment, like only a sibling can dish out.


(http://s18.postimg.org/q5rh6ufqt/demented1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/q5rh6ufqt/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/xzs2s8njp/demented2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xzs2s8njp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 25, 2016, 03:48:59 AM
Diecuts #16 - Pure Hex

Pure Hex
Powerful Bleach
Removes stains and cloth


Real Product
Purex
Bleach
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 25, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
Diecuts #16 - Pure Hex

Pure Hex
Powerful Bleach
Removes stains and cloth


Real Product
Purex
Bleach


Perhaps, not one of the most memorable Wackies. Could have borrowed the old MAD magazine standard and tagged it "Powerful Blech"

(http://s18.postimg.org/yu7ohyufp/purehex1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yu7ohyufp/)

(http://s18.postimg.org/6vdir3st1/purehex2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6vdir3st1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 25, 2016, 12:48:06 PM
I do like the name but not the gag or artwork.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 26, 2016, 02:34:21 AM
Diecuts #17 - Weakies

Weakies
Breakfast of Chumps
Generally Moldy
Messy Untoasted Half - Cooked Flakes


Real Product
Wheaties
Breakfast of Champs
General Mills
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 26, 2016, 12:41:47 PM
Diecuts #17 - Weakies

Weakies
Breakfast of Chumps
Generally Moldy
Messy Untoasted Half - Cooked Flakes


Real Product
Wheaties
Breakfast of Champs
General Mills


I think most will agree this is one of the iconic Wackies. Nice parody. Simple. Terrific artwork.  The "Messy Untoasted Half - Cooked Flakes" tag line, not really even needed. There may have been something similar on an actual box from that time frame, but I didn't see one.



(http://s9.postimg.org/br446occb/weakies1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/br446occb/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/sg5k2l8xn/weakies2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sg5k2l8xn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Ruffs on September 26, 2016, 02:45:34 PM
Scot & Mark. You 2 are doing a great job. Keep it going. Scot can you get pictures for the 1st 3 or 4 diecuts  without the real product?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 26, 2016, 03:18:39 PM
Yeah I'm sure when people think of Wackies they probably think of this one of many. Pretty good gag since it's definitely the best combination of words.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 26, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
Scot & Mark. You 2 are doing a great job. Keep it going. Scot can you get pictures for the 1st 3 or 4 diecuts  without the real product?

Thanks! As to Scot, thank you for adding the products!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 27, 2016, 02:43:44 AM
Diecuts #18 - Schmutz

Move down to Schmutz
Know the joy of dirty living
The beer that made Milwaukee burp


Real Product
Schlitz
The beer that made Milwaukee famous
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 27, 2016, 05:12:04 AM
Real Product
Schitz


LOL. I've heard it called that name a bunch of times.  ;D
The gag writers Probably wanted to use that on the wacky too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 27, 2016, 09:36:17 AM
The tomatoes are fantastically demented.

Diecuts #15 - Demented Tomatoes

Demented
Rotten Tomatoes


Real product
Del Monte
Stewed Tomatoes


If you ask me, this is a perfect example of a simple, but effective gag. Also, the artwork is great. Definitely up there with my favorite Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 27, 2016, 09:37:01 AM
Could have used a witch.

Diecuts #16 - Pure Hex

Pure Hex
Powerful Bleach
Removes stains and cloth


Real Product
Purex
Bleach

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 27, 2016, 09:37:52 AM
Great title and great art. Sometimes, that's all it takes.

Diecuts #17 - Weakies

Weakies
Breakfast of Chumps
Generally Moldy
Messy Untoasted Half - Cooked Flakes


Real Product
Wheaties
Breakfast of Champs
General Mills

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 27, 2016, 12:46:02 PM
LOL. I've heard it called that name a bunch of times.  ;D
The gag writers Probably wanted to use that on the wacky too.

WELL... Fixed that one. Haha
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on September 27, 2016, 07:03:14 PM
The tomatoes are fantastically demented.

I get a lot of compliments on my Demented Tomatoes shirts!  I wish this had been used in Series 1 as a sticker so I could have seen it a lot sooner than I eventually did.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 28, 2016, 02:24:44 AM
Diecuts #19 - Minute Lice

Minute Lice
Pre-Cooked Lice
Long Skinny Type
Makes 6 Sloppy Servings


Real Product
Minute Rice
Enriched Rice Cooked ?


Can't really find pictures of the old product. Scot, take the reins.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on September 28, 2016, 06:43:25 AM
I think most will agree this is one of the iconic Wackies. Nice parody. Simple. Terrific artwork.  The "Messy Untoasted Half - Cooked Flakes" tag line, not really even needed. There may have been something similar on an actual box from that time frame, but I didn't see one.

Breakfast of Chumps  -  Probably the best tag line of all Wacky's ever!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 28, 2016, 09:14:12 AM
Breakfast of Chumps  -  Probably the best tag line of all Wacky's ever!!

Yeah, you just don't hear people called chumps, galoots, or lugs anymore. Sniff.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 28, 2016, 12:05:42 PM
Updated
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on September 28, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
Yeah, you just don't hear people called chumps, galoots, or lugs anymore. Sniff.

I agree. However, "Breakfast of Chumpions" would have been a funny pun. Reminds me - wasn't there a guy on the old forum with the last name Wackel who made his own home-made parodies called Wackel Packelges?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 29, 2016, 02:01:20 AM
Diecuts #20 - Gadzooka

Gadzooka
Annoy Your Teacher
Chew Bubble Gum in Class


Real Product
Original Bazooka
Bubble Gum


I think this might be the most iconic wacky, so I can't complain about the gag. It's memorable!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 30, 2016, 02:18:42 AM
Diecuts #21 - Moron Salt

Moron Salt
When it rains, the salt doesn't pour


Real Product
Morton Salt
When it rains it pours


Fair enough..
If the forum has lost interest in this thread, I'll stop posting here because I've seen how much this thread has been neglected lately.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 03:58:40 AM

If the forum has lost interest in this thread, I'll stop posting here because I've seen how much this thread has been neglected lately.

Sometimes real life pulls people away for periods of time. I would suggest slowing the pace down. Maybe 2 or 3 a week instead of daily?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 30, 2016, 07:26:28 AM
Diecuts #20 - Gadzooka

Gadzooka
Annoy Your Teacher
Chew Bubble Gum in Class


Real Product
Original Bazooka
Bubble Gum




Sorry, was away on vacation, I rarely spend any time on this forum when on vacation.  I am not going to go back and comment on all of the past titles discussed here so will just start here.

Agree this is truly iconic, all of the kids quoted "annoy your teacher, chew bubblegum in class" on regular basis.
I think this might be the most iconic wacky, so I can't complain about the gag. It's memorable!

We didn't care much for the "gad"zooka but the art and rest of the taglines made it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 07:29:13 AM
Diecuts #18 - Schmutz

Move down to Schmutz
Know the joy of dirty living
The beer that made Milwaukee burp


Real Product
Schlitz
The beer that made Milwaukee famous




Nice parody on the name, "Schmutz" being dirt or filth. I think the tag like should have read, "The beer that made Milwaukee nauseous", to match the original a little closer. The other tag line is probably not really needed. This has nice artwork but, for some reason, just not as memorable to me as much of the other titles.

(https://s17.postimg.org/3jovef663/schmutz1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3jovef663/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/62akf3rwb/schmutz2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/62akf3rwb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 30, 2016, 07:31:15 AM
Diecuts #21 - Moron Salt

Moron Salt
When it rains, the salt doesn't pour


Real Product
Morton Salt
When it rains it pours


Fair enough..
If the forum has lost interest in this thread, I'll stop posting here because I've seen how much this thread has been neglected lately.
I hate this gag other than as a kid, we would have loved the excuse to say "moron".

How about "more ton" salt, it is so heavy, you can't lift it to pour it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on September 30, 2016, 07:33:10 AM
Sometimes real life pulls people away for periods of time. I would suggest slowing the pace down. Maybe 2 or 3 a week instead of daily?
Agreed, was on vacation so I dropped off of this.  Issue with 2-3 per week, it will take a decade to get through all titles.  Perhaps we list 7 titles on each Sunday and then use the week to comment across all 7 titles?  might be a little haphazard but just a thought.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 07:36:14 AM
Diecuts #19 - Minute Lice

Minute Lice
Pre-Cooked Lice
Long Skinny Type
Makes 6 Sloppy Servings


Real Product
Minute Rice
Enriched Rice Cooked ?


Can't really find pictures of the old product. Scot, take the reins.

I always really liked this one. One simple letter change is almost perfect since rice already looks like lice, and vice versa. I like the way the oval around MINUTE RICE was changed into a pocket watch. Very nice little touch, or did the actual product have that at one time?. No real need for much else on this one. The title stands alone.



(https://s16.postimg.org/n517ipa4x/minutelice1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n517ipa4x/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/voklggihd/minutelice2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/voklggihd/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/bmieod9eb/minutelice3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bmieod9eb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 07:49:12 AM
Diecuts #20 - Gadzooka

Gadzooka
Annoy Your Teacher
Chew Bubble Gum in Class


Real Product
Original Bazooka
Bubble Gum


I think almost everyone would agree... a classic. Terrific characters. The word "gadzooks" is defined as an exclamation of surprise or annoyance,  so the tag line, "annoy your teacher" fits a bit better than one might first think. I like the fact Topps took a swipe at themselves in (almost?) every series.



I think this might be the most iconic wacky, so I can't complain about the gag. It's memorable!
(https://s14.postimg.org/z835t3f71/gadzooka1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z835t3f71/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/fer20e1t9/gadzooka2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fer20e1t9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:15:51 AM
Diecuts #21 - Moron Salt

Moron Salt
When it rains, the salt doesn't pour


Real Product
Morton Salt
When it rains it pours


Fair enough..
If the forum has lost interest in this thread, I'll stop posting here because I've seen how much this thread has been neglected lately.

I think the parody on the product name is good on this one, but doesn't tie into anything else with the product or its properties.   My friends and I did indeed call each other morons (and regrettably, the now, even less politically correct  name, retards) all the time. So I guess I related at that level. This was certainly a familiar product in our home at the time. Another case where, for me, the character was just not that memorable.



(https://s16.postimg.org/fzurtya01/moron1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fzurtya01/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/3z9bt82ld/moron2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3z9bt82ld/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:28:38 AM
Diecuts #1 - Boredom's Coffee

Boredom's
Instant coffee
One cup puts you to sleep forever



Just adding some pics to match the other entries. This may be another instance were the product mascot appeared in print ads but not originally on the product, but the Wacky Package incorporated it. Pretty good product name parody, the tag line, "One cup puts you to sleep..." helps sell the boredom aspect. This is one I rediscover every few years when looking through my collection. There's one good thing about getting old... rediscovering Wacky titles is fun.


(https://s18.postimg.org/n0lclcxqd/boredomes1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n0lclcxqd/)

(https://s18.postimg.org/nrio4vphh/boredomes2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nrio4vphh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:41:54 AM
Diecuts #2 - Fearstone

Fearstone
You'll tire of our tires


Adding pics for this title.


(https://s17.postimg.org/i34vggp3f/fearstone1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i34vggp3f/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/xd4qnnkln/fearstone2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xd4qnnkln/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:46:09 AM
Diecuts #3 - Vicejoy

Vicejoy
Fungus Tip Cigarettes
Vicejoy's got the taste that rots
20 butts



Adding pictures...


(https://s12.postimg.org/zadhxewnt/vicejoy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zadhxewnt/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/nzau91psp/vicejoy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nzau91psp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:53:45 AM
Diecuts #4 - Camals

Here's what happens when you smoke
Camals
Jerkish Blend
(Secret message on side) Smoking cigarettes may be hazardous to your health


Original product:
Camel
Turkish and Domestic Blend Cigarettes




I can see the gag here, and I guess 'jerkish' was the best rhyming word they could come up with. I can't really suggest anything here because there really isn't anything marginally wrong with the gag that I can frown upon.

Adding pics. Comparing the two, almost surprised this one didn't get a D&D simply because of the image similarity. Basically the same picture with the camel upside down. If only Joe Camel had been a thing back then. 



(https://s22.postimg.org/663gn1dbh/camals1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/663gn1dbh/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/ff5mx5m7h/camals2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ff5mx5m7h/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 08:58:26 AM
Diecuts #5 - Campy

Campy
Condemned
Spider Soup


Real Product
Campbells
Condensed
Tomato Soup


What I personally think what would've been funny here is saying "Made with Demented Tomatoes" But the real question is, what does campy mean? I do really like this card either way, so discuss!

Adding pics. I don't think the actual cans shown below are from the correct period. If I find a better match, I'll update. Where is Jason when you need him?!?!?



(https://s15.postimg.org/64d61wmdj/campy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/64d61wmdj/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/jmk2e6yiv/campy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jmk2e6yiv/)

Maybe a little better match on the can...


(https://s9.postimg.org/qhsbgdhnf/campy4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qhsbgdhnf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 30, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
Adding pics. I don't think the actual cans shown below are from the correct period. If I find a better match, I'll update. Where is Jason when you need him?!?!?



(https://s15.postimg.org/64d61wmdj/campy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/64d61wmdj/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/jmk2e6yiv/campy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jmk2e6yiv/)

Maybe a little better match on the can...


(https://s9.postimg.org/qhsbgdhnf/campy4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qhsbgdhnf/)

They all look similar in my opinion.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 30, 2016, 12:40:35 PM
Agreed, was on vacation so I dropped off of this.  Issue with 2-3 per week, it will take a decade to get through all titles.  Perhaps we list 7 titles on each Sunday and then use the week to comment across all 7 titles?  might be a little haphazard but just a thought.

I would prefer one per day but it's something we can do.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Ruffs on September 30, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
Mark. This is your gig. Do whatever you want to do. I for one am enjoying this. Also glad Scot caught up. I forgot what some of the real products looked like. Keep going every day
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on September 30, 2016, 02:27:42 PM
Mark. This is your gig. Do whatever you want to do. I for one am enjoying this. Also glad Scot caught up. I forgot what some of the real products looked like. Keep going every day

Slave driver!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on September 30, 2016, 02:32:46 PM
Mark. This is your gig. Do whatever you want to do. I for one am enjoying this. Also glad Scot caught up. I forgot what some of the real products looked like. Keep going every day

Well I didn't really come up with the idea, I just did what we all said to do. If the others on the forum prefer something, let me know and I'll make it work.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Ruffs on September 30, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
Slave driver!
LOL
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on September 30, 2016, 03:30:18 PM
Slave driver!

  (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/whipping.gif)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on September 30, 2016, 09:03:23 PM
Love the art and the title. One of the Wackys that makes the non-repeats so desirable.




Nice parody on the name, "Schmutz" being dirt or filth. I think the tag like should have read, "The beer that made Milwaukee nauseous", to match the original a little closer. The other tag line is probably not really needed. This has nice artwork but, for some reason, just not as memorable to me as much of the other titles.

(https://s17.postimg.org/3jovef663/schmutz1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3jovef663/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/62akf3rwb/schmutz2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/62akf3rwb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 01, 2016, 02:37:58 AM
Diecuts #22 - Liptorn

If you drink this hot soup you'll get your Liptorn
Molten Lava Soup
8 Deadly Servings


Real Product
Lipton Soup


Can't find boxes of this card, I can find the 8th series one though..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 01, 2016, 03:44:33 AM
Diecuts #21 - Moron Salt

Moron Salt
When it rains, the salt doesn't pour


Real Product
Morton Salt
When it rains it pours


Fair enough..
If the forum has lost interest in this thread, I'll stop posting here because I've seen how much this thread has been neglected lately.

I'm enjoying this thread, especially when there's an original product image to compare to the Wacky, but haven't had a lot of time to comment recently.  As for Moron Salt, I don't know/remember why the product tagline was "When it rains it pours" but the Wacky rewrite is funny, and the face is great.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 01, 2016, 04:01:22 AM
I'm enjoying this thread, especially when there's an original product image to compare to the Wacky, but haven't had a lot of time to comment recently.  As for Moron Salt, I don't know/remember why the product tagline was "When it rains it pours" but the Wacky rewrite is funny, and the face is great.

The tag line was a reference to Morton's patented anti-caking agent that prevented the salt from clumping in humid weather.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 01, 2016, 04:04:56 AM
The tag line was a reference to Morton's patented anti-caking agent that prevented the salt from clumping in humid weather.

Thanks for the memory jog!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 01, 2016, 09:03:33 AM
Diecuts #22 - Liptorn

If you drink this hot soup you'll get your Liptorn
Molten Lava Soup
8 Deadly Servings


Real Product
Lipton Soup


Can't find boxes of this card, I can find the 8th series one though. 

I suspect there is a better box match than the one I posted. I always loved the artwork on this one. On the weak side in terms of parody titles, but the visual on this one is so strong, its one of my favorites.


(https://s22.postimg.org/tthfhs2bx/liptorn1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tthfhs2bx/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/qnwtrkjpp/liptorn2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qnwtrkjpp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 01, 2016, 09:06:14 AM
You'll get your Liptorn.

Always loved that gag.


Diecuts #22 - Liptorn

If you drink this hot soup you'll get your Liptorn
Molten Lava Soup
8 Deadly Servings


Real Product
Lipton Soup


Can't find boxes of this card, I can find the 8th series one though..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 01, 2016, 09:13:05 AM
You'll get your Liptorn.

Always loved that gag.

I love this one too, and still call the product Liptorn.  Might have been my forum name, but it was already taken when I eventually found the forums. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 01, 2016, 06:06:32 PM
You'll get your Liptorn.

Always loved that gag.
I loved the art and loved saying you will get your liptorn but now with adult eyes comparing the art and the gag, I hate that the art doesn't reflect the lip being torn, fire coming out of the mouth is just a mismatch to the gag.  Lipburn would have been better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 01, 2016, 06:09:26 PM
The tag line was a reference to Morton's patented anti-caking agent that prevented the salt from clumping in humid weather.
Wow, good stuff dude! Now this makes sense.  The only issue, yet again, the gag writers had zero alignment to the kid audience.  It is almost as if the gag writers would more interested in getting off on super ultra clever cerebral gags involving patents and Egyptian leaders than coming up with gags that would be funny for kids.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 01, 2016, 07:41:47 PM


Nice parody on the name, "Schmutz" being dirt or filth. I think the tag like should have read, "The beer that made Milwaukee nauseous", to match the original a little closer. The other tag line is probably not really needed. This has nice artwork but, for some reason, just not as memorable to me as much of the other titles.


Never a big fan of this one, but I do love the "move on down to" tag line.  Subtle but funny.  I like nauseos, but how about the beer that made Milwaukee gaseuos?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 01, 2016, 07:44:35 PM
I suspect there is a better box match than the one I posted. I always loved the artwork on this one. On the weak side in terms of parody titles, but the visual on this one is so strong, its one of my favorites.


I always liked the visual of him burning his own arm off.  I do love the "Liptorn" title, but I agree with Ernie that is doesn't match the visual reference at all. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 02, 2016, 01:26:29 AM
Diecuts #23 - Muller

Muller Low Life
Brewed on the Bowery


Real Product
Miller High Life
The champagne of beers
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 02, 2016, 02:48:21 AM
Diecuts #23 - Muller

Muller Low Life
Brewed on the Bowery


Real Product
Miller High Life
The champagne of beers



I like the play on "high life" to "low life" with a bum character but "MULLER" is a term associated with milling grain. I wonder if the original intend was to be someone who mulls where  mull is defined as: to make a mess or failure of. But, alas, there is no real word "muller" like that. I like the character and tag line reversal, but maybe only half a star for the product parody itself. This is one of those stretches.


(https://s12.postimg.org/pryjocrjt/muller1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pryjocrjt/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/6bdu1twft/muller2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6bdu1twft/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2016, 08:11:07 AM
I suspect there is a better box match than the one I posted. I always loved the artwork on this one. On the weak side in terms of parody titles, but the visual on this one is so strong, its one of my favorites.


(https://s22.postimg.org/tthfhs2bx/liptorn1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tthfhs2bx/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/qnwtrkjpp/liptorn2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qnwtrkjpp/)

I found this image in my gallery. Closer design with the checkerboard tablecloth...

(https://s12.postimg.org/i5gasjnll/Lipton_soup.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i5gasjnll/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 02, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
That is definitely closer.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2016, 08:17:26 AM
I always really liked this one. One simple letter change is almost perfect since rice already looks like lice, and vice versa. I like the way the oval around MINUTE RICE was changed into a pocket watch. Very nice little touch, or did the actual product have that at one time?. No real need for much else on this one. The title stands alone.



(https://s16.postimg.org/n517ipa4x/minutelice1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n517ipa4x/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/voklggihd/minutelice2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/voklggihd/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/bmieod9eb/minutelice3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bmieod9eb/)

Here is an older Minute Rice box...

(https://s17.postimg.org/gpjuwv3ob/Minute_Rice2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gpjuwv3ob/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
Adding pics for this title.


(https://s17.postimg.org/i34vggp3f/fearstone1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i34vggp3f/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/xd4qnnkln/fearstone2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xd4qnnkln/)

Here is a vintage Firestone ad I found. Looks like this exact tire in the photo was used for the parody art?

(https://s21.postimg.org/qjdytg9w3/Firestone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qjdytg9w3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2016, 08:23:50 AM
I agree. I think that's a great gag

I assume the slum maid is wearing top made from a flour sack.

She should have been serving something more appropriate, such as instant ramen, white bread, and soda pop.   And cigarettes.


   (http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/die-cuts/fronts/slum_6_front_small_smaller_images.jpg)

Here is a photo of a vintage Sun Maid box with the brown bar on the bottom. The bar looks lighter on the parody art, but I'm thinking this is the design they used.

(https://s9.postimg.org/yk9d2l3cr/Sun_Maid_Raisins.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yk9d2l3cr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 02, 2016, 08:58:39 AM
I found this image in my gallery. Closer design with the checkerboard tablecloth...

(https://s12.postimg.org/i5gasjnll/Lipton_soup.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i5gasjnll/)

Thanks for the packaging picture updates. Keep them coming!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2016, 09:01:25 AM
Thanks for the packaging picture updates. Keep them coming!

I wish I had them all! Impossible to find images of exact Borden Creamer and Broadcast Hash packaging. Anyone?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 02, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
As a young kid, this image played with my sense of perspective. The guy on the front is leaning over the label, yet appears to be standing inside the bottle. I remember trying to figure that out. This was before I really understood artistic license!



I like the play on "high life" to "low life" with a bum character but "MULLER" is a term associated with milling grain. I wonder if the original intend was to be someone who mulls where  mull is defined as: to make a mess or failure of. But, alas, there is no real word "muller" like that. I like the character and tag line reversal, but maybe only half a star for the product parody itself. This is one of those stretches.


(https://s12.postimg.org/pryjocrjt/muller1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pryjocrjt/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/6bdu1twft/muller2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6bdu1twft/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 02, 2016, 12:43:27 PM

I like the play on "high life" to "low life" with a bum character but "MULLER" is a term associated with milling grain. I wonder if the original intend was to be someone who mulls where  mull is defined as: to make a mess or failure of. But, alas, there is no real word "muller" like that. I like the character and tag line reversal, but maybe only half a star for the product parody itself. This is one of those stretches.


(https://s12.postimg.org/pryjocrjt/muller1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pryjocrjt/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/6bdu1twft/muller2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6bdu1twft/)
Niller low life, for those who shoot for next to nothing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 02, 2016, 01:19:39 PM

I like the play on "high life" to "low life" with a bum character but "MULLER" is a term associated with milling grain. I wonder if the original intend was to be someone who mulls where  mull is defined as: to make a mess or failure of. But, alas, there is no real word "muller" like that. I like the character and tag line reversal, but maybe only half a star for the product parody itself. This is one of those stretches.
I found reference to a Muller beer distributor in Philly, which makes me wonder if this one could just be an inside joke of some sort. Miller/Muller, Brewerytown/Bowery. Could help explain why it's not that great a wacky. who knows.

"The name of Muller has long been associated with beer in Philadelphia.  Members of the Muller family grew up in the Brewerytown section of the city and, beginning in the 1800s, worked in breweries and delivered beer in horse-drawn wagons.  Jack Muller, the founder of Muller, Inc., started in the beer business in 1938 with the formation in Philadelphia of Holmesburg Distributing. Located in Northeast Philadelphia, Muller, Inc. is a six-county Importing Beer Distributor and one of the nation's largest distributors of malt beverages."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 02, 2016, 01:35:35 PM
I found reference to a Muller beer distributor in Philly, which makes me wonder if this one could just be an inside joke of some sort. Miller/Muller, Brewerytown/Bowery. Could help explain why it's not that great a wacky. who knows.

"The name of Muller has long been associated with beer in Philadelphia.  Members of the Muller family grew up in the Brewerytown section of the city and, beginning in the 1800s, worked in breweries and delivered beer in horse-drawn wagons.  Jack Muller, the founder of Muller, Inc., started in the beer business in 1938 with the formation in Philadelphia of Holmesburg Distributing. Located in Northeast Philadelphia, Muller, Inc. is a six-county Importing Beer Distributor and one of the nation's largest distributors of malt beverages."
Given the propensity for obscure inside jokes, I think you are on to something!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 03, 2016, 03:55:53 AM
Diecuts #24 - Band - Ache

Band - Ache Brand
Strips off skin
Jerkson & Jerkson


Real Product
Band - Aid
Plastic Strips
Johnson & Johnson


Pretty good gag, right Bandaches?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 03, 2016, 09:44:32 AM
Diecuts #24 - Band - Ache

Band - Ache Brand
Strips off skin
Jerkson & Jerkson


Real Product
Band - Aid
Plastic Strips
Johnson & Johnson


Pretty good gag, right Bandaches?

Another one of the top classic Wackies. As a kid, the band-aid being ripped, along with flesh, from the hand appealed to my love of gore. Very good product parody. Tag line and Company name on Wacky both fit in very nicely. Great artwork.  Its interesting on this one how the colors of the logo and the tag line box were switched from the original. Usually the original series Wackies were very close to the originals in terms of font, colors used, etc. 


(https://s11.postimg.org/meb6xxmdr/bandache1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/meb6xxmdr/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/c5ipsaduf/bandache2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c5ipsaduf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 03, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
I do agree that it is odd but I do like this one especially because I've always hated taking band aids off.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 03, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
Diecuts #24 - Band - Ache

Band - Ache Brand
Strips off skin
Jerkson & Jerkson


Real Product
Band - Aid
Plastic Strips
Johnson & Johnson


Pretty good gag, right Bandaches?
LOL, yeah, I like this one a bit.  We liked saying Jerkson and Jerkson as a kid but I am not sure it fits the gag. I think Goneskin and Goneskin would have been funnier but what do I know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 04, 2016, 01:57:21 AM
Diecuts #25 - Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts

Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts
The Heavily
Coffee


Real Product
Chock Full O' Nuts
The Heavenly
Coffee


I guess it works, but heavily seems to bug me with grammar. Eh, I guess it still works, right?  :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 04, 2016, 03:30:07 AM
LOL, yeah, I like this one a bit.  We liked saying Jerkson and Jerkson as a kid but I am not sure it fits the gag. I think Goneskin and Goneskin would have been funnier but what do I know.

I have to disagree on this one... we used to always jerk band-aids off to get the slow, agonizing hurt over with quickly. Jerkson and Jerkson always made good sense to me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 04, 2016, 09:19:52 AM
I found this on Urban Dictionary, for what it's worth.

 mullered
1 Broken, smashed or beaten up to the point of being visisbly altered, unusuable or non-functional.
2 Intoxicated with drink or drugs to the point of non-sensibility.
3 Resoundingly beaten in a competition of some kind.


I found reference to a Muller beer distributor in Philly, which makes me wonder if this one could just be an inside joke of some sort. Miller/Muller, Brewerytown/Bowery. Could help explain why it's not that great a wacky. who knows.

"The name of Muller has long been associated with beer in Philadelphia.  Members of the Muller family grew up in the Brewerytown section of the city and, beginning in the 1800s, worked in breweries and delivered beer in horse-drawn wagons.  Jack Muller, the founder of Muller, Inc., started in the beer business in 1938 with the formation in Philadelphia of Holmesburg Distributing. Located in Northeast Philadelphia, Muller, Inc. is a six-county Importing Beer Distributor and one of the nation's largest distributors of malt beverages."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 04, 2016, 02:29:11 PM
Diecuts #25 - Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts

Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts
The Heavily
Coffee


Real Product
Chock Full O' Nuts
The Heavenly
Coffee

I guess it works, but heavily seems to bug me with grammar. Eh, I guess it still works, right?  :great:

This is another one I like quite a bit. Good title parody by adding two words. Change of "Heavenly" to "Heavily" fits well. Nice and simple with pretty cool artwork.


(https://s16.postimg.org/6vomyun29/chock1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6vomyun29/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/6k76m36m9/chock2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6k76m36m9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 04, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
This is another one I like quite a bit. Good title parody by adding two words. Change of "Heavenly" to "Heavily" fits well. Nice and simple with pretty cool artwork.


(https://s16.postimg.org/6vomyun29/chock1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6vomyun29/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/6k76m36m9/chock2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6k76m36m9/)

I really like this one, and while they captured the original packaging, I'm glad they added a character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 04, 2016, 04:35:07 PM
Great title, great secondary gag, and great visual. Visceral without being too gruesome. And it parodies the product perfectly. This would be a prime example if you were introducing Wackys to someone.


Diecuts #24 - Band - Ache

Band - Ache Brand
Strips off skin
Jerkson & Jerkson


Real Product
Band - Aid
Plastic Strips
Johnson & Johnson


Pretty good gag, right Bandaches?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 04, 2016, 04:37:04 PM
I also really like this one. Funny, great character, and the open can looks fantastic. I think this would be another good example to use if you were introducing someone to Wackys.


Diecuts #25 - Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts

Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts
The Heavily
Coffee


Real Product
Chock Full O' Nuts
The Heavenly
Coffee


I guess it works, but heavily seems to bug me with grammar. Eh, I guess it still works, right?  :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 04, 2016, 07:37:15 PM
I have to disagree on this one... we used to always jerk band-aids off to get the slow, agonizing hurt over with quickly. Jerkson and Jerkson always made good sense to me.
Fair point!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 04, 2016, 07:37:36 PM
Diecuts #25 - Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts

Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts
The Heavily
Coffee


Real Product
Chock Full O' Nuts
The Heavenly
Coffee


I love this one, I have no issues to call out.
I guess it works, but heavily seems to bug me with grammar. Eh, I guess it still works, right?  :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 04, 2016, 09:04:04 PM
This is another one I like quite a bit. Good title parody by adding two words. Change of "Heavenly" to "Heavily" fits well. Nice and simple with pretty cool artwork.

(https://s16.postimg.org/6vomyun29/chock1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6vomyun29/)

I like this title a lot. Great character expression.

Love the exaggerated arms and hands and huge coffee cup. Classic Norm Saunders artwork.


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 05, 2016, 01:55:34 AM
Diecuts #26 - Tied

Tied Detergent
Your clothes will be fit to be Tied


Real Product
Tide Detergent


Can't find exact fitting images to add tagline.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 05, 2016, 03:25:20 AM
Diecuts #26 - Tied

Tied Detergent
Your clothes will be fit to be Tied


Real Product
Tide Detergent


Can't find exact fitting images to add tagline.

Not every product lends itself to a great parody. Speaking of which... here's one now.


(https://s11.postimg.org/8raidndb3/tide2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8raidndb3/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/pgby9k9wf/tied1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pgby9k9wf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 05, 2016, 09:23:39 AM
I always thought this one was clever. Not only is it a homophone, but it also does it by rearranging the same 4 letters. You do your laundry and the clothes come out in a knot. It works for me. Plus, my family used Tide so that was always a bonus.


Diecuts #26 - Tied

Tied Detergent
Your clothes will be fit to be Tied


Real Product
Tide Detergent


Can't find exact fitting images to add tagline.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 05, 2016, 10:47:27 AM
I'm with everyone else. Chock is an A+ wacky and has always been one of my favorites. Was stoked to coincidentally have it showing on a pack I purchased years ago!

(https://s19.postimg.org/l1bvbokpv/s185b.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 05, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
Tied is one of those wackys that's so visually unique. Just the rings of color make me love it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 05, 2016, 12:47:21 PM
Yeah it's one of the "key wackys" because it's one I automatically think of.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: BustedFinger on October 05, 2016, 04:36:45 PM
Tied is one of those wackys that's so visually unique. Just the rings of color make me love it.

I don't know - I actually prefer "Toad" from series 12 better!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on October 05, 2016, 04:40:16 PM
Toad is good, but the look on the Tied guys face is priceless!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Tied is one of those wackys that's so visually unique. Just the rings of color make me love it.
I agree,  the colors are great, underrated wacky
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 05, 2016, 06:35:20 PM
I don't know - I actually prefer "Toad" from series 12 better!
I am biased against all reused titles so I perhaps don't give the 2nd version a fair look.  I think it is lazy that products have to be repeated.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 05, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Those Wacky gag writers were ahead of their time back in 1967! I have one of those HE washers, and when I put too many clothes in there, especially jeans, they get tangled together and appear to be "tied" together when I pull them out. I don't use Tied detergent, but I do use Pure-Hex.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 06, 2016, 04:16:58 AM
Tied is one of those wackys that's so visually unique. Just the rings of color make me love it.

I really like Tied.  The remade product name, the gag, the character - I wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on October 06, 2016, 06:19:28 AM
I am biased against all reused titles so I perhaps don't give the 2nd version a fair look.  I think it is lazy that products have to be repeated.

I'm with you on this. I remember as a kid feeling cheated when they repeated products.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 06, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
I also really like this one. Funny, great character, and the open can looks fantastic. I think this would be another good example to use if you were introducing someone to Wackys.

Yeah the "Heavily" was a stretch, but it works considering the title.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 06, 2016, 08:32:25 AM
I always thought this one was clever. Not only is it a homophone, but it also does it by rearranging the same 4 letters. You do your laundry and the clothes come out in a knot. It works for me. Plus, my family used Tide so that was always a bonus.

Agreed. I loved this one as a kid.  I really like the expression on the poor guys face with his laundry all tied up.  Simple, but memorable.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 06, 2016, 08:47:08 AM
Me, too. I can understand why they did it, but in a perfect world every Wacky would be a different product, and repeats would only be allowed if every product in existence was already parodied!


I'm with you on this. I remember as a kid feeling cheated when they repeated products.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 06, 2016, 03:47:04 PM
Diecuts #27 - Mrs. Klean

Mrs. Klean
will wipe up the floor with Mr. Klean if she can find him


Real Product
Mr. Clean


Can't find other info on the bottle from 1967, but I'm pretty sure that gag was a bit of a stretch..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 06, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
(https://s16.postimg.org/6vomyun29/chock1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6vomyun29/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/6k76m36m9/chock2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6k76m36m9/)
here's a vintage tall can, which the card matches better

(https://s21.postimg.org/owhojdx7b/chock_Full.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 07, 2016, 02:27:27 AM
Diecuts #28 - Breadcrust

Breadcrust
Corned Beef Hash
1% Corned Beef
99% Breadcrust


Real Product
Broadcast
Corned Beef Hash


Art = Good, Gag = Bad. They never even changed corned beef hash! How could they?
Maybe it could've been "Bored Beef Hash" but it's better than no difference.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 07, 2016, 03:40:01 AM
Scorned Beef Trash? But honestly, that minor stuff has zero impact on how much I like a wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 07, 2016, 05:53:27 AM
This is the only photo I found of the exact Broadcast Corned Beef Hash can, and it's from a YouTube video. Anyone have a better image?
The 2nd photo is obviously a more modern can design.


(https://s9.postimg.org/bibv4kc1n/Broadcast_Hash1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bibv4kc1n/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/t6hn7cngx/Broadcast_Hash2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t6hn7cngx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on October 07, 2016, 07:15:15 AM
The Breadcrust spoof actually looks more appetizing, imo
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 07, 2016, 12:35:14 PM
This is the only photo I found of the exact Broadcast Corned Beef Hash can, and it's from a YouTube video. Anyone have a better image?
The 2nd photo is obviously a more modern can design.


(https://s9.postimg.org/bibv4kc1n/Broadcast_Hash1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bibv4kc1n/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/t6hn7cngx/Broadcast_Hash2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t6hn7cngx/)

That's as good as anything I have. Here's the Wacky for completeness.
I was never a fan of this title. Seems forced.


(https://s12.postimg.org/dsfi8sent/breadcrust1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dsfi8sent/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 07, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
That's as good as anything I have. Here's the Wacky for completeness.
I was never a fan of this title. Seems forced.


(https://s12.postimg.org/dsfi8sent/breadcrust1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dsfi8sent/)

This was never one I cared much for.  I think it was partly because I was completely unfamiliar with the product, and partly because I never understood why a person and a dog were eating from the same plate.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 07, 2016, 01:01:11 PM
Yeah I never really heard of Broadcast until now. I've only known of Hormel as a "name brand".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 07, 2016, 08:36:13 PM
This was never one I cared much for.  I think it was partly because I was completely unfamiliar with the product, and partly because I never understood why a person and a dog were eating from the same plate.
Word for word how I feel about it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 08, 2016, 03:15:34 AM
Diecuts #29 - Cover Ghoul

Cover Ghoul
Wear it when you're dressed to kill


Real Product
Cover Girl
Clean Make-up


I guess this sticker is nice, but it's very flat and different from the original container.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 08, 2016, 04:46:19 AM
This is pretty close to the Cover Girl bottle they used for the parody...

(https://s12.postimg.org/uin175wkp/Cover_Girl.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uin175wkp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 08, 2016, 05:26:54 AM
This is pretty close to the Cover Girl bottle they used for the parody...

(https://s12.postimg.org/uin175wkp/Cover_Girl.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uin175wkp/)

Doesn't look like the artists had much to go with.  They at least gave the bottle a little depth, and the gag isn't bad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 09, 2016, 02:53:47 AM
Diecuts #30 - Horrid

Horrid
Spray Deodorant
Guaranteed for 5 minutes


Real Product
Arrid
Spray Deodorant


I've always liked this card, not sure why.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 09, 2016, 07:14:22 AM
Diecuts #30 - Horrid

Horrid
Spray Deodorant
Guaranteed for 5 minutes


Real Product
Arrid
Spray Deodorant


I've always liked this card, not sure why.

Below is Horrid and a photo of the Arrid can. Simple, eye-catching, but I wish a green mist with flies or something would be spraying out of the nozzle.
I'm sure everyone knows this, but the can the guy is holding in his hand shows the A in Arrid.

(https://s10.postimg.org/4hnvztrol/horrid_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4hnvztrol/)
(https://s9.postimg.org/4whbgbb63/Arrid.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4whbgbb63/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 09, 2016, 07:20:20 AM
Diecuts #30 - Horrid

Horrid
Spray Deodorant
Guaranteed for 5 minutes


Real Product
Arrid
Spray Deodorant


I've always liked this card, not sure why.

Another one where there was not much to play off of from the original packaging. Decent product title parody. Who doesn't like cartoon skunks? No one in our family used this product so no personal connection.


(https://s13.postimg.org/lq4tw30pv/horrid1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lq4tw30pv/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/sa5ycn7z7/horrid2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sa5ycn7z7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 09, 2016, 07:23:29 AM
Another one where there was not much to play off of from the original packaging. Decent product title parody. Who doesn't like cartoon skunks? No one in our family used this product so no personal connection.


(https://s13.postimg.org/lq4tw30pv/horrid1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lq4tw30pv/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/sa5ycn7z7/horrid2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sa5ycn7z7/)

Oops! We posted photo comparisons at the same time. I can delete mine if you want.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 09, 2016, 07:31:33 AM
Below is Horrid and a photo of the Arrid can. Simple, eye-catching, but I wish a green mist with flies or something would be spraying out of the nozzle.
I'm sure everyone knows this, but the can the guy is holding in his hand shows the A in Arrid.

(https://s10.postimg.org/4hnvztrol/horrid_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4hnvztrol/)
(https://s9.postimg.org/4whbgbb63/Arrid.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4whbgbb63/)

I like this one quite a bit.  A green mist coming out of the nozzle would have been cool, but might have taken up too much vertical space to let the can match the product proportions.  Flies on the can label near the guy would have worked.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 09, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
Below is Horrid and a photo of the Arrid can. Simple, eye-catching, but I wish a green mist with flies or something would be spraying out of the nozzle.
I'm sure everyone knows this, but the can the guy is holding in his hand shows the A in Arrid.
for me, this one is elevated in awesomeness by not having the boring white can lid in place. Shows off a fantastic rendering of the metal and nozzle on the can top.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 09, 2016, 08:11:08 AM
for me, this one is elevated in awesomeness by not having the boring white can lid in place. Shows off a fantastic rendering of the metal and nozzle on the can top.

Agreed, Horrid has a wonderful can top!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 09, 2016, 08:24:32 AM
Have to agree. Comparing the Wacky to the pic of the can really drives that point home.

And I love that gross character.

for me, this one is elevated in awesomeness by not having the boring white can lid in place. Shows off a fantastic rendering of the metal and nozzle on the can top.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 09, 2016, 12:20:03 PM
Have to agree. Comparing the Wacky to the pic of the can really drives that point home.

And I love that gross character.
I am a fan of Horrid and Cover Ghoul.  Loved Cover Ghoul as a kid.  Both wackys make boring products come to life.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 09, 2016, 02:52:05 PM
I think the characters are fraternal twins.

I am a fan of Horrid and Cover Ghoul.  Loved Cover Ghoul as a kid.  Both wackys make boring products come to life.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on October 09, 2016, 09:12:10 PM
Adding pics for this title.


(https://s17.postimg.org/i34vggp3f/fearstone1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i34vggp3f/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/xd4qnnkln/fearstone2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xd4qnnkln/)


(https://s22.postimg.org/4cfk5tw31/00000s_l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4cfk5tw31/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 10, 2016, 02:04:16 AM
Diecuts #31 - Jail - O

Jail - O
Grape - Vine Flavor
Sing - Sing's Favorite Dessert (With metal file added)


Real Product
Jell - O
Grape Flavor


This one is really appealing..
I also really like the "Sing - Sing" part.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 10, 2016, 03:49:37 AM
Diecuts #31 - Jail - O

Jail - O
Grape - Vine Flavor
Sing - Sing's Favorite Dessert (With metal file added)


Real Product
Jell - O
Grape Flavor


This one is really appealing..
I also really like the "Sing - Sing" part.

Another iconic wacky. Great artwork. Nice product parody. Tag lines tie in nicely although I didn't understand the grapevine reference until I asked my Dad and he explained that's how information was spread in prison... via the grapevine, ie. by word of mouth. always loved the file in the clear jello image and the guard incompetency it implied.

(https://s3.postimg.org/r8truzuvj/jail02.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r8truzuvj/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/f88bu9ngv/jailo1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f88bu9ngv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 11, 2016, 02:12:27 AM
Diecuts #32 - Ratz

No Biscuit
Ratz enjoy these crackers
Half Pound of moldy crackers


Real Product
Nabisco
Ritz
Crackers


Gee I guess you could say this one is hard to get.. !

..okay I'll stop
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 11, 2016, 04:10:31 AM
Diecuts #32 - Ratz

No Biscuit
Ratz
Enjoy these crackers
Half Pound of moldy crackers


Real Product
Ritz
Crackers


Gee I guess you could say this one is hard to get.. !

..okay I'll stop

Another iconic wacky. Good product name parody. Unfortunately, the tag lines don't really complement the parody.


(https://s12.postimg.org/fmxi4ow6h/ratz1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fmxi4ow6h/)



(https://s16.postimg.org/qkgu4iadt/ratz2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qkgu4iadt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on October 11, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Unfortunately, the tag lines don't really complement the parody.
You really think so? I think quite the opposite. Don't rats eat moldy, nasty stuff by design?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: jaylynch on October 11, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
It's one sentence.  "Rats enjoy these crackers"  Not  "RATS.  Enjoy these crackers."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 12, 2016, 03:54:33 AM
It's one sentence.  "Rats enjoy these crackers"  Not  "RATS.  Enjoy these crackers."

Sorry, fixed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 12, 2016, 03:57:25 AM
Diecuts #33 - Grave Train

Grave Train
Dog Food
Your dog will never eat anything else...


Real Product
Gravy Train
Dog Food


I've always loved the art on this card.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 12, 2016, 04:26:09 AM
It's one sentence.  "Rats enjoy these crackers"  Not  "RATS.  Enjoy these crackers."

That's how I read it, which makes it a good gag for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 12, 2016, 05:32:24 AM
Diecuts #33 - Grave Train

Grave Train
Dog Food
Your dog will never eat anything else...


Real Product
Gravy Train
Dog Food


I've always loved the art on this card.

Nice parody of the product name. Great art. I suspect there is a better packaging match than the one I show below.

(https://s12.postimg.org/3uvhaaqt5/grave1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3uvhaaqt5/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/wlsb0cwmx/grave2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wlsb0cwmx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 12, 2016, 09:06:50 AM
Nice parody of the product name. Great art. I suspect there is a better packaging match than the one I show below.

(https://s12.postimg.org/3uvhaaqt5/grave1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3uvhaaqt5/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/wlsb0cwmx/grave2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wlsb0cwmx/)

I searched extensively through vintage Gravy Train ads and packaging, and I don't think a brown box exists.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 13, 2016, 02:10:21 AM
Diecuts #34 - Duzn't

Duzn't Do Nuthin'
Laundry Detergent
Approved by beatnicks everywhere


Real Product
Duz
Laundry Detergent
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 13, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
Diecuts #34 - Duzn't

Duzn't Do Nuthin'
Laundry Detergent
Approved by beatnicks everywhere


Real Product
Duz
Laundry Detergent



Never really one I liked. Not quite sure why. Its got a pretty good parody of the title. The artwork is solid.


(https://s18.postimg.org/w59fqrldx/duznt1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w59fqrldx/)

(https://s18.postimg.org/5y88ut345/duznt2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5y88ut345/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 13, 2016, 04:16:33 AM

Never really one I liked. Not quite sure why. Its got a pretty good parody of the title. The artwork is solid.


(https://s18.postimg.org/w59fqrldx/duznt1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w59fqrldx/)

(https://s18.postimg.org/5y88ut345/duznt2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5y88ut345/)

Agreed, it's a good parody of the title, and the artwork is well done.  I think this was never one of my favorites because I didn't understand dishwashing detergent being used in a bathtub.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 13, 2016, 08:27:42 AM
Definitely a favorite of mine, again due more to the color scheme and character than the gag. I never realized the yellow pastel background was flowers until looking at the original product just now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on October 13, 2016, 10:35:24 AM
Agreed, it's a good parody of the title, and the artwork is well done.  I think this was never one of my favorites because I didn't understand dishwashing detergent being used in a bathtub.
This one duzn't do nuthin for me
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on October 13, 2016, 10:42:08 AM
I searched extensively through vintage Gravy Train ads and packaging, and I don't think a brown box exists.
I think the product packaging evolved into brown coloring without the stripped food bowl so this is perhaps a combination?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 13, 2016, 06:07:41 PM
This one duzn't do nuthin for me
so it duz do sumpthin', then?

one of those double negatives that kind of works on a Wacky?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 14, 2016, 02:24:48 AM
Diecuts #35 - Fink

Canada Wet
Fink
The Sassy Grapefruit Drink


Real Product
Canada Dry
Wink
Grapefruit Beverage


I don't get this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2016, 03:37:48 AM
What don't you get? Fink was a popular term at the time. I never heard of the real product as a kid, but as usual that didn't matter to me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on October 14, 2016, 06:59:35 AM
What don't you get? Fink was a popular term at the time. I never heard of the real product as a kid, but as usual that didn't matter to me.
The artwork is lame, weak Saunders at best, probably one of the titles that Saunders touched up trying to save a flat piece of art.  The right pinkie sticking out like a thumb irks me, it just looks drawn improperly.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 14, 2016, 07:04:26 AM
Diecuts #35 - Fink

Canada Wet
Fink
The Sassy Grapefruit Drink


Real Product
Canada Dry
Wink
Grapefruit Beverage


I don't get this one.

A product I had heard of back in the day, but seemed exotic and adult. Yeach! I think a name like BLINK would have been more appropriate with the grapefruit squirting in the eye  gag with the company name Canada Pry. Always liked the pic, but didn't seem to fit in with the FINK title. Maybe if you knew this guy personally, you would agree he was a fink.


(https://s22.postimg.org/st12qgvzx/fink1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/st12qgvzx/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/u9cl8lywt/fink2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u9cl8lywt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2016, 07:21:21 AM
I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions. The pinky does look odd, never noticed that before.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 14, 2016, 08:39:30 AM
I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions. The pinky does look odd, never noticed that before.

Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 14, 2016, 09:55:34 AM
A product I had heard of back in the day, but seemed exotic and adult. Yeach! I think a name like BLINK would have been more appropriate with the grapefruit squirting in the eye  gag with the company name Canada Pry. Always liked the pic, but didn't seem to fit in with the FINK title. Maybe if you knew this guy personally, you would agree he was a fink.


(https://s22.postimg.org/st12qgvzx/fink1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/st12qgvzx/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/u9cl8lywt/fink2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u9cl8lywt/)

I wonder why the yellow bar is straight on the parody art and not "bowing" like the bar on the actual can. The green is also brighter than the actual can. Also interesting how packaging artwork was foreshortened during the vintage days to best fit on the trading card without a lot of white space. Today, ANS suffers from too much white space on the card.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on October 14, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
I wonder why the yellow bar is straight on the parody art and not "bowing" like the bar on the actual can. The green is also brighter than the actual can. Also interesting how packaging artwork was foreshortened during the vintage days to best fit on the trading card without a lot of white space. Today, ANS suffers from too much white space on the card.
The 3-D rendering on this is awful hence no bow on the bar, the awful pinkie.  I don't believe Saunders suddenly got better in the middle and later series wackys in which many pieces are far superior in art quality.  I believe Saunders did touch all wackys, some he did almost everything, others he touched up the work of other artists to try to add rendering and such.

I believe "saunders touched all series 1 wackys" somehow got converted into "Saunders DID all of the Series 1 wackys".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on October 14, 2016, 12:09:33 PM
Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.
That would be worse as the spoon handle wouldn't align with the rest of the spoon  :D
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2016, 01:16:41 PM
The 3-D rendering on this is awful hence no bow on the bar, the awful pinkie.  I don't believe Saunders suddenly got better in the middle and later series wackys in which many pieces are far superior in art quality.  I believe Saunders did touch all wackys, some he did almost everything, others he touched up the work of other artists to try to add rendering and such.

I believe "saunders touched all series 1 wackys" somehow got converted into "Saunders DID all of the Series 1 wackys".

Again, interesting theory, but David Saunders has stated that Norm painted all the die cuts. He has stated that definitively several times, so unless he adds a note of uncertainty, I will assume Norm painted everything in Series 1.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on October 14, 2016, 02:05:57 PM
Funny, I always thought that pinky was the spoon handle.
Me, too, Pat. Now that I look at it more closely, I'm quite certain it is. A pinkie wouldn't have a hole thru it near one end, like a large spoon might.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 14, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
Could it be Fink is holding his spoon in a "sassy" manner?
Like some people sip from a tea cup?

(I think it looks like a pinkie, since it's flesh color and quite different than the spoon)

(http://www.wackypacks.com/originalart/scans/fink.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 14, 2016, 02:40:48 PM
That's the same way I interpreted it. Fink always worked well enough for me. Probably a first series mid-range gag.

The character is expressive, and looking at the high-quality blowup, the can and label look fantastic!


I took it to mean the juice was the fink for its irritating actions.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 14, 2016, 03:20:49 PM
All this fuss about the pinky/spoon... but just look at the top of that can!  Pure artistry.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 14, 2016, 03:23:05 PM
Wow! What a difference. The original art has a deeper green color with nice shadowing. When the stickers were printed, they must have toned down the black quite a bit on press.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2016, 03:50:11 PM
Wow! What a difference. The original art has a deeper green color with nice shadowing. When the stickers were printed, they must have toned down the black quite a bit on press.

The Fink art does look great, but the sticker image Scot used is very washed out. It should look more like a Kelly Green....

(https://s19.postimg.org/nyci7jkf7/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on October 14, 2016, 03:56:53 PM
I like Fink and Breadcrust because they were two of only three First Series stickers I saw as a kid (the third was Skimpy).  Wink was also the first soda I remember liking, when I was three or four years old, so I recognized the product immediately.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 14, 2016, 04:14:44 PM
No sign of Wink in Brooklyn. Never heard of it at all.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 14, 2016, 05:45:51 PM
Me, too, Pat. Now that I look at it more closely, I'm quite certain it is. A pinkie wouldn't have a hole thru it near one end, like a large spoon might.
I though that was a poorly executed finger nail.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on October 14, 2016, 08:30:19 PM
No sign of Wink in Brooklyn. Never heard of it at all.

I  don't think a lot of people did.  Though it was readily available in the Panama Canal Zone in the late '60's.
It's funny how some 1st Series products are as obscure as some of those in the later series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on October 14, 2016, 08:33:38 PM
Wink was alive and well in North East PA as a kid, it was Squirt's rival.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 15, 2016, 02:03:34 AM
Diecuts #36 - Maddie Boy

Maddie Boy
Dog Food
100% Condemned Beef
Get rid of your dog fast


Real Product
Laddie Boy
Chicken Dog Food


What does "Maddie" make the product? If anything, "Oddie" Boy would've been better for the normal card if you ask me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on October 15, 2016, 02:44:14 AM
"Maddie," as in a mad dog.  I remember the TV ads for the original product-I think this one tends to get shortchanged just for being the most common of the Series 1's.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 15, 2016, 07:33:25 AM
Diecuts #36 - Maddie Boy

Maddie Boy
Dog Food
100% Condemned Beef
Get rid of your dog fast


Real Product
Laddie Boy
Chicken Dog Food


What does "Maddie" make the product? If anything, "Oddie" Boy would've been better for the normal card if you ask me.

A hard product to find a decent color photo of. Our neighbors at the time had a pet dog that looked a lot like Maddie so their son, who was a few years younger than me, had several Maddie Boy stickers on one of his school notebooks,



(https://s16.postimg.org/xy6a3ufup/maddie1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xy6a3ufup/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/59tc0mdoh/maddie2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/59tc0mdoh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 15, 2016, 05:18:06 PM
All this fuss about the pinky/spoon... but just look at the top of that can!  Pure artistry.

I know, the lid is amazing.  I remember Wink from when I was a kid.  I grew up in Western New York very close to Canada, so we got all of the imported stuff.   I remember this being an odd product since there was no tab to open at the top, you needed a can opener.  It was fairly expensive, so i think I only had it once or twice.  But I remember thinking  it was cool opening it with a can opener.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 15, 2016, 07:05:02 PM
Again, interesting theory, but David Saunders has stated that Norm painted all the die cuts. He has stated that definitively several times, so unless he adds a note of uncertainty, I will assume Norm painted everything in Series 1.
Well, I wrote to David to double check as my recollection matched Tom's and sure enough, Tom is correct, Norm did NOT paint 100% of all diecut titles.  Tom is wrong on Fink, it appears Norm is responsible for the odd pinkie. 

This is the direct quote from David:

"The pinky is no more out-of-proportion that the nose, chin and ears of the little man.  He is a painted cartoon charcater, so Norman Saunders was rendering a fellow with exaggerated features. The same style of rendered cartoon characters was used in most of the Nutty Awards.  The can has a metallic rim that was painted by the same air-brush artist on the Topps staff that did the bottle for Boredoms.  His assignment was to fill in as much of the finished product as he could, so that Topps would only need to pay their “free-lance artist” (Norman Saunders) for the least amount of work.  This approach was later abandoned after the first set of stickers.
...they wanted to use their staff artists to produce as much of the final painting as they could and then only need to pay Norman Saunders for painting the lettering and the characters.  This approach was later abandoned by Topps". 


My comment:
The last sentence refers to Norm doing much of of the painting for each title as the series went on and that is clearly visible in the quality of the art as the middle series and later series are far more superior than the diecuts.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 15, 2016, 07:25:56 PM
It sounds like what this is referring to is more like young comic artists providing assists on non-skill art tasks. Sounds like Norm did all the characters. And the Fink lid looks fantastic, not sure how this is an example of lesser art.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 15, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
This is the direct quote from David:

"The pinky is no more out-of-proportion that the nose, chin and ears of the little man. 

That was my thought as I looked at it. The pinkie looked ridiculous until I noticed the other exaggerated features.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 16, 2016, 03:44:18 AM
Diecuts #37 - Coronation

Coronation Evaporating Milk
The milk from condemned cows
Drink it we'll crown you


Real Product
Carnation Sterilized Evaporated Milk


I like the "evaporating" touch. This one's also special because I got my first copy of it yesterday!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Beanball on October 16, 2016, 05:26:47 AM
A little off topic: One thing I appreciate about the original series is the artistic license taken to fill out the sticker. You can see how much longer and thinner the actual can is, but the sticker works because the ratio was altered so the art would fill out the canvas. It makes such a difference.

In my mind, too many of the ANS images were made exactly to scale and got lost with too much white space on the card. Not to mention practically needing a magnifying glass to read the smaller type.
They wasted quite a bit of sticker on some of the Ans. I thought they would put two images on some of them. I agree about them being two small on the print.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 16, 2016, 07:28:47 AM
Never having seen the Wink product, I assumed from the wacky that it was a canister sized can like Hawaiaan Punch came in.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 16, 2016, 08:34:19 AM
Diecuts #37 - Coronation

Coronation Evaporating Milk
The milk from condemned cows
Drink it we'll crown you


Real Product
Carnation Sterilized Evaporated Milk


I like the "evaporating" touch. This one's also special because I got my first copy of it yesterday!

This one always seemed a stretch to me as a parody. Not really memorable artwork either.  Nice can top though  ;)

(https://s3.postimg.org/wnrt82j5b/cor1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wnrt82j5b/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/bs5iwtmy7/cor2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bs5iwtmy7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 16, 2016, 09:00:33 AM
Why is it a stretch?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 16, 2016, 09:14:59 AM
This one always seemed a stretch to me as a parody. Not really memorable artwork either.  Nice can top though  ;)

(https://s3.postimg.org/wnrt82j5b/cor1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wnrt82j5b/)

(https://s3.postimg.org/bs5iwtmy7/cor2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bs5iwtmy7/)

Here is a photo of an older can, if anyone cares. LOL
(https://s16.postimg.org/oavc3ae4x/Carnation.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oavc3ae4x/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 16, 2016, 03:47:36 PM
Why is it a stretch?

Just that most of the parody names, although similar to the real product name, usually denote or imply that the products are less than desirable. Names like Grave, Maddie, Fink, Duzn't, etc. Some of these, more successfully than others even relate back to the actual product in some way. Corontation, although close to the word Carnation, is defined as: the act or ceremony of crowning a king, queen, or other sovereign. So unlike most Wackies, the name change neither relates back to the original product, nor does it impugn the original product in some way. That is just the nature of Wackies in general. I don't mean to claim all Wackies have to be that way. One of my favorite recent Wackies is Polar Spring. This one is more of a satirical statement about global warming than ragging on the original product in any way. Coronation just seems to lack of any of the sting, either satirical or just plain 11 year old level mud slinging variety,  I normally associated with WPs. Then again, I could be wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 16, 2016, 04:01:48 PM
I don't believe I ever saw Coronation as a kid.  I like the faces on the flowers, and the can art, but the gag leaves me a little confused.  Maybe Cremation would have worked better?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 16, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
I don't believe I ever saw Coronation as a kid.  I like the faces on the flowers, and the can art, but the gag leaves me a little confused.  Maybe Cremation would have worked better?

I think someone made a Cremation Milk parody card on Deviant Art. Someone made a lot of Wacky's on there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 17, 2016, 02:31:25 AM
Diecuts #38 - Cracked Animals

No Biscuit
Cracked Animals
Laughing Hyena
Dead Alligator
Crazy Zookeeper
Hippy Hippo


Real Product
Nabisco
Barnum's Cracker Animals
(animals vary)


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 17, 2016, 03:29:12 AM
Diecuts #38 - Cracked Animals

No Biscuit
Cracked Animals
Laughing Hyena
Dead Alligator
Crazy Zookeeper
Hippy Hippo


Real Product
Nabisco
Barnum's Cracker Animals
(animals vary)


Another one of my top 5 favorite Die Cuts. Great parody title, artwork and tag line. What kid didn't love the animal wagon-car shaped box with the string carrying handle? While searching for actual product images, I found its a little difficult to find the yellow box the Wacky is based on. The later red box is much more prevalent.


(https://s10.postimg.org/b95fe39hx/cracked1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b95fe39hx/)

(https://s10.postimg.org/q6dwf3mqd/cracked2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/q6dwf3mqd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 17, 2016, 04:27:23 AM
Just that most of the parody names, although similar to the real product name, usually denote or imply that the products are less than desirable. Names like Grave, Maddie, Fink, Duzn't, etc. Some of these, more successfully than others even relate back to the actual product in some way. Corontation, although close to the word Carnation, is defined as: the act or ceremony of crowning a king, queen, or other sovereign. So unlike most Wackies, the name change neither relates back to the original product, nor does it impugn the original product in some way. That is just the nature of Wackies in general. I don't mean to claim all Wackies have to be that way. One of my favorite recent Wackies is Polar Spring. This one is more of a satirical statement about global warming than ragging on the original product in any way. Coronation just seems to lack of any of the sting, either satirical or just plain 11 year old level mud slinging variety,  I normally associated with WPs. Then again, I could be wrong.  ;)

Tarnation would have been a good name for the parody.

Another one of my top 5 favorite Die Cuts. Great parody title, artwork and tag line. What kid didn't love the animal wagon-car shaped box with the string carrying handle? While searching for actual product images, I found its a little difficult to find the yellow box the Wacky is based on. The later red box is much more prevalent.

(https://s10.postimg.org/b95fe39hx/cracked1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b95fe39hx/)

(https://s10.postimg.org/q6dwf3mqd/cracked2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/q6dwf3mqd/)

I suppose there wasn't a lot of words they could have substituted for Barnum's. Burn 'ems?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 17, 2016, 06:10:07 AM

I suppose there wasn't a lot of words they could have substituted for Barnum's. Burn 'ems?

I think there was a Burn 'ems in a recent ANS series. 

I like Cracked Animals a lot, and the "Cracked" part can be linked to the original product by the word "crackers."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on October 17, 2016, 07:17:29 AM
I think someone made a Cremation Milk parody card on Deviant Art. Someone made a lot of Wacky's on there.

You might be thinking of this concept I drew for ANS4...

(https://s15.postimg.org/6p5iwa4jr/cremation2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6p5iwa4jr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on October 17, 2016, 08:01:29 PM
I don't believe I ever saw Coronation as a kid.  I like the faces on the flowers, and the can art, but the gag leaves me a little confused.  Maybe Cremation would have worked better?

Cremation would have been better, but it would likely have been considered over the top for a kids' card in 1967.  The gag lies in combining Coronation and "Drink it or We'll Crown You."  ("Crown" being a slang term meaning to conk on the head.)

 I didn't think much of the gag, but I did like the artwork.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on October 17, 2016, 08:08:09 PM
Tarnation would have been a good name for the parody.

I suppose there wasn't a lot of words they could have substituted for Barnum's. Burn 'ems?

I thought "Cracked Animals" worked because most kids just called them "Animal Crackers."

Side note:  In 2000, we had a thread on which Wacky character would make the best Presidential candidate.  I went with Crazy Zookeeper, based on his having the most relevant executive experience.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 17, 2016, 10:08:36 PM

Tarnation would have been a good name for the parody.

Love it

Who in TARNATION EVAPORATED the MILK?!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 18, 2016, 02:49:15 AM
Diecuts #39 - Hostage

Hostage Cupcakes
Filled with mud
The food kidnappers give to their victims


Real Product
Hostess Cupcakes
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 18, 2016, 10:40:18 AM
Love it

Who in TARNATION EVAPORATED the MILK?!

Exactly! Tarnation would have worked instead of Coronation.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 18, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Diecuts #39 - Hostage

Hostage Cupcakes
Filled with mud
The food kidnappers give to their victims


Real Product
Hostess Cupcakes



I like the hostage artwork done in the same style as the product cameo silhouette, however, I'd give this one a general overall "Meh" rating.


(https://s10.postimg.org/y8euuot11/hostage1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y8euuot11/)

(https://s10.postimg.org/6mc3a09o5/hostage2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6mc3a09o5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 19, 2016, 02:33:45 AM
Diecuts #40 - Mutts

Mutts Apple Juice
Favorite with dogs everywhere


Real Product
Motts Apple Juice
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 19, 2016, 04:14:22 AM
Diecuts #40 - Mutts

Mutts Apple Juice
Favorite with dogs everywhere


Real Product
Motts Apple Juice


Like the title, like the artwork, love dogs. Just seems like there should have been more fodder to pull this one together into a tighter piece.




(https://s15.postimg.org/huloe3m3r/mutts1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/huloe3m3r/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/jnol2f7af/mutts2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jnol2f7af/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 19, 2016, 04:39:29 AM
Like the title, like the artwork, love dogs. Just seems like there should have been more fodder to pull this one together into a tighter piece.




(https://s15.postimg.org/huloe3m3r/mutts1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/huloe3m3r/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/jnol2f7af/mutts2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jnol2f7af/)

I really like this title, one of my favorites from Series 1.  Good gag, great mutts, and the bottle is nicely done.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2016, 04:57:18 AM

I like the hostage artwork done in the same style as the product cameo silhouette, however, I'd give this one a general overall "Meh" rating.


(https://s10.postimg.org/y8euuot11/hostage1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y8euuot11/)

(https://s10.postimg.org/6mc3a09o5/hostage2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6mc3a09o5/)

Here is an image of just the label from Jason Liebig's collection. I wonder why the font in "Hostage" looks so different on the parody.

(https://s10.postimg.org/gt1808kut/Hostess3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gt1808kut/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2016, 04:59:52 AM
Like the title, like the artwork, love dogs. Just seems like there should have been more fodder to pull this one together into a tighter piece.




(https://s15.postimg.org/huloe3m3r/mutts1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/huloe3m3r/)

(https://s15.postimg.org/jnol2f7af/mutts2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jnol2f7af/)

I have another photo showing the bottle...

(https://s18.postimg.org/868vmmdr9/Mott_s_Apple_Juice.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/868vmmdr9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 19, 2016, 05:42:44 AM
Love it

Who in TARNATION EVAPORATED the MILK?!

That would have been a great Wacky tag line,  Only 50 years too late!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 19, 2016, 05:44:51 AM

I like the hostage artwork done in the same style as the product cameo silhouette, however, I'd give this one a general overall "Meh" rating.


(https://s10.postimg.org/y8euuot11/hostage1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y8euuot11/)

(https://s10.postimg.org/6mc3a09o5/hostage2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6mc3a09o5/)

I always loved this one as a kid.  Maybe because I liked the product so much.  I also liked the detail on the celophane.  It is amazing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 19, 2016, 06:45:05 AM
I always loved this one as a kid.  Maybe because I liked the product so much.  I also liked the detail on the celophane.  It is amazing.

I always liked Hostage.  The Wacky has so much more detail than the real product!  A decent gag, close to the product name, and I agree, the cellophane is awesome.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 19, 2016, 09:44:31 AM
I remember thinking this was one of the best gags. And I was also very familiar with the product.

Diecuts #39 - Hostage

Hostage Cupcakes
Filled with mud
The food kidnappers give to their victims


Real Product
Hostess Cupcakes

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 19, 2016, 10:53:46 AM
Here is an image of just the label from Jason Liebig's collection. I wonder why the font in "Hostage" looks so different on the parody.

(https://s10.postimg.org/gt1808kut/Hostess3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gt1808kut/)

..and remember, the Shedds version of Hostage has the proper lettering font!

(https://s19.postimg.org/y2avejwv7/Screen_Shot_2016_10_19_at_1_51_47_PM.png)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2016, 11:09:05 AM
..and remember, the Shedds version of Hostage has the proper lettering font!

(https://s19.postimg.org/y2avejwv7/Screen_Shot_2016_10_19_at_1_51_47_PM.png)

Oh yeah! Almost forgot about that. Look at the crappy job on the rub-down lettering. Crooked and wavy. LOL!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 20, 2016, 02:26:48 AM
Diecuts #41 - 6 Up

6UP
6 Fooey Ounces
You hate it*It hates you


Real Product
7UP
You like it*It likes you
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 20, 2016, 04:36:14 AM
Diecuts #41 - 6 Up

6UP
6 Fooey Ounces
You hate it*It hates you


Real Product
7UP
You like it*It likes you



Drank a lot of 7up as a kid and always liked their commercials and advertising campaigns so I am biased on this one. The 6up parody name doesn't really mean anything that I know of, still a title I like. The little guy holding back a burp is great.

(https://s22.postimg.org/uianiib71/6up1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uianiib71/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/wbdk6twdp/6up2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wbdk6twdp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 20, 2016, 10:57:08 AM
This one was more or less filler to me. Out of 10, I give it a 6 up.

Diecuts #41 - 6 Up

6UP
6 Fooey Ounces
You hate it*It hates you


Real Product
7UP
You like it*It likes you

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 20, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
This one was more or less filler to me. Out of 10, I give it a 6 up.

What you said!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 21, 2016, 02:22:49 AM
Diecuts #42 - Skimpy

Skimpy
Crummy Beanut Putter
Made from old peanut shells (Peanuts are expensive)
Nit-Wit-007


Real Product
Skippy
Crunchy Peanut Butter
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 21, 2016, 08:00:42 AM
Diecuts #42 - Skimpy

Skimpy
Crummy Beanut Putter
Made from old peanut shells (Peanuts are expensive)
Nit-Wit-007


Real Product
Skippy
Crunchy Peanut Butter


This one has always been a favorite of mine. Was a heavy consumer of this product. Seemed like you were either a member of the JIF camp, or the SKIPPY camp, except for those freaks that ate Smucker's Goober peanut butter with jelly mixed in  :P. Wars broke out in the school cafeteria over peanut butter preference.

This is a good example of making something great out of not much at all to work with since the original product packaging is pretty drab. One of the iconic WP characters IMHO. Love the touch of the little worms. Strong parody name with a nice supporting tag line.


(https://s22.postimg.org/r2r6t5ly5/skimpy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r2r6t5ly5/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/6jwao380t/skimpy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6jwao380t/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 21, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Mmmmmmm... Beanut putter!

This one has always been a favorite of mine. Was a heavy consumer of this product. Seemed like you were either a member of the JIF camp, or the SKIPPY camp, except for those freaks that ate Smucker's Goober peanut butter with jelly mixed in  :P. Wars broke out in the school cafeteria over peanut butter preference.

This is a good example of making something great out of not much at all to work with since the original product packaging is pretty drab. One of the iconic WP characters IMHO. Love the touch of the little worms. Strong parody name with a nice supporting tag line.


(https://s22.postimg.org/r2r6t5ly5/skimpy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r2r6t5ly5/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/6jwao380t/skimpy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6jwao380t/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 21, 2016, 06:07:15 PM
Mmmmmmm... Beanut putter!

I prefer Gubble Bum.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on October 21, 2016, 07:26:34 PM
I prefer Gubble Bum.
What the hell is Gubble Bum? Do you mean Guggle Bum?

:P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 21, 2016, 08:49:54 PM
I wonder why Topps would have changed the tag line?

(https://s19.postimg.org/5lctzq7tv/IMG_0726.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 22, 2016, 03:00:32 AM
Diecuts #43 - Jolly Mean Giant

Jolly Mean Giant
He loves to split
PEAS


Real Product
Jolly Green Giant
Very Young Tender
Sweet Peas


One of the non repeats I still need, I love the art. Nothing really wrong about the gag here, it makes sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 22, 2016, 03:11:21 AM
Diecuts #43 - Jolly Mean Giant

Jolly Mean Giant
He loves to split
PEAS


Real Product
Jolly Green Giant
Very Young Tender
Sweet Peas


One of the non repeats I still need, I love the art. Nothing really wrong about the gag here, it makes sense.

I think this is a great Wacky, with a good gag and character.  Even the peas are funny.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2016, 04:59:04 AM
What you said!
Agreed, the incredible imagination changing it from 7 up to 6 up just duzn't do it for me.  Maybe one up since it refers to it hating you, you hating it, people who don't get along tend to one up each other.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2016, 05:01:48 AM
This one has always been a favorite of mine. Was a heavy consumer of this product. Seemed like you were either a member of the JIF camp, or the SKIPPY camp, except for those freaks that ate Smucker's Goober peanut butter with jelly mixed in  :P. Wars broke out in the school cafeteria over peanut butter preference.

This is a good example of making something great out of not much at all to work with since the original product packaging is pretty drab. One of the iconic WP characters IMHO. Love the touch of the little worms. Strong parody name with a nice supporting tag line.


(https://s22.postimg.org/r2r6t5ly5/skimpy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r2r6t5ly5/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/6jwao380t/skimpy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6jwao380t/)
Love the product, love the art, the gag totally loses me after crummy peanut shells so it falls from top notch as I just don't think the random silliness of beanut putter is of any value here.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2016, 05:05:13 AM
Diecuts #42 - Skimpy

Skimpy
Crummy Beanut Putter
Made from old peanut shells (Peanuts are expensive)
Nit-Wit-007


Real Product
Skippy
Crunchy Peanut Butter

"Skimpy creamless peanut clutter.  Does not weigh 40 ounces, no where near it"  Detailed Picture of peanut shells gathered at the bottom of the jar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2016, 05:06:26 AM
I think this is a great Wacky, with a good gag and character.  Even the peas are funny.
Agreed, no criticism here. shame it was pulled hurting its nostalgic value for most of us not being in series 1.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 22, 2016, 09:12:01 AM
Diecuts #43 - Jolly Mean Giant

Jolly Mean Giant
He loves to split
PEAS


Real Product
Jolly Green Giant
Very Young Tender
Sweet Peas


One of the non repeats I still need, I love the art. Nothing really wrong about the gag here, it makes sense.

I agree with Raw Goo's and Band Ache's comments previously posted on this one. Once again, the possibly anonymous can top renderer, has done an excellent job.
 
(https://s11.postimg.org/b1igyjf7z/jolly1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b1igyjf7z/)

(https://s9.postimg.org/3phfwxc1n/jolly2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3phfwxc1n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on October 22, 2016, 11:08:24 AM
"Skimpy creamless peanut clutter.  Does not weigh 40 ounces, no where near it"  Detailed Picture of peanut shells gathered at the bottom of the jar.

Very clever!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 22, 2016, 03:27:12 PM
"Skimpy creamless peanut clutter.  Does not weigh 40 ounces, no where near it"  Detailed Picture of peanut shells gathered at the bottom of the jar.

They had a jar with peanut shells for JIP in the ANS series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 22, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
Very clever!
:D
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 22, 2016, 08:35:01 PM
This title is top notch. A great example to use to introduce someone to Wackys.

Diecuts #43 - Jolly Mean Giant

Jolly Mean Giant
He loves to split
PEAS


Real Product
Jolly Green Giant
Very Young Tender
Sweet Peas


One of the non repeats I still need, I love the art. Nothing really wrong about the gag here, it makes sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 23, 2016, 04:25:47 AM
Finally, we've gotten to the very end of the diecuts! It's been a long journey...
Next to the Wacky Ads.

Diecuts #44 - Quacker Oats

Old Fashioned Quacker Oats
Strictly for the birds


Real Product
Old Fashioned Quaker Oats
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 23, 2016, 07:43:03 AM
Finally, we've gotten to the very end of the diecuts! It's been a long journey...
Next to the Wacky Ads.

Diecuts #44 - Quacker Oats

Old Fashioned Quacker Oats
Strictly for the birds


Real Product
Old Fashioned Quaker Oats


Simple, but very effective. Another one of the classics. I couldn't find original packaging with a yellow top (sniff).

(https://s13.postimg.org/507glqhib/quacker1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/507glqhib/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/qb50pzzmr/quaker2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qb50pzzmr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 23, 2016, 08:25:51 AM
Simple, but very effective. Another one of the classics. I couldn't find original packaging with a yellow top (sniff).

(https://s13.postimg.org/507glqhib/quacker1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/507glqhib/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/qb50pzzmr/quaker2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qb50pzzmr/)

Quacker is a great gag, and it goes perfectly with the wonderfully rendered duck.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 23, 2016, 06:28:26 PM
Quacker is a great gag, and it goes perfectly with the wonderfully rendered duck.
I am unable to ever refer to the real product by anything other than the wacky title hence the sign of a great wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 23, 2016, 06:34:46 PM
I am unable to ever refer to the real product by anything other than the wacky title hence the sign of a great wacky!

Same here!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 24, 2016, 02:01:28 AM
Wacky Ads #1 - Melty Way

Melty Way
Muck Chocolate
Melts in your hand, not in your mouth


Real Product
Milky Way
Milk Chocolate
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 24, 2016, 03:29:58 AM
Wacky Ads #1 - Melty Way

Melty Way
Muck Chocolate
Melts in your hand, not in your mouth


Real Product
Milky Way
Milk Chocolate


I like the parody title and supporting tag lines on this one, although they seem to borrow from M&Ms... the alien is cool.

(https://s21.postimg.org/75kmke7ab/melty1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/75kmke7ab/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/4crf0d6xv/melty2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4crf0d6xv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 24, 2016, 04:43:41 AM
I like the parody title and supporting tag lines on this one, although they seem to borrow from M&Ms... the alien is cool.

(https://s21.postimg.org/75kmke7ab/melty1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/75kmke7ab/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/4crf0d6xv/melty2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4crf0d6xv/)

I like the Melty Way gag, but really don't care for the Lost version where the Ad text was added onto the Wacky, and the alien was shortened.  That is just way too cluttered!

(https://s12.postimg.org/k07pjrlh5/Ads001.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k07pjrlh5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 24, 2016, 04:53:04 AM
I like the Melty Way gag, but really don't care for the Lost version where the Ad text was added onto the Wacky, and the alien was shortened.  That is just way too cluttered!

(https://s12.postimg.org/k07pjrlh5/Ads001.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k07pjrlh5/)

The packaging used for the spoof is closer to the bar on the attached ad. This is long before my time, but the wrapper appears to have been opaque.

(https://s12.postimg.org/msklzzbxl/6aa343c7e368b4c75e82c1f70faa7a87.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/msklzzbxl/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 24, 2016, 05:04:24 AM
The packaging used for the spoof is closer to the bar on the attached ad. This is long before my time, but the wrapper appears to have been opaque.

(https://s12.postimg.org/msklzzbxl/6aa343c7e368b4c75e82c1f70faa7a87.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/msklzzbxl/)

Thanks for the flyer showing the old packaging!  It's good to see how "Mars" was on it - I thought that was what tied in the Barsoom line on the Ad, but couldn't find anything.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 24, 2016, 07:04:40 AM
The packaging used for the spoof is closer to the bar on the attached ad. This is long before my time, but the wrapper appears to have been opaque.
You mean translucent? As it's slightly visible.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 24, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
Always enjoyed the Spa Fon nod to EC.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 25, 2016, 02:32:27 AM
Wacky Ads #2 - Plastered

Plastered
Whiskey Flavored Peanuts
Favored by drinkers everywhere


Real Product
Planter's
Dry Roasted Peanuts
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 25, 2016, 04:07:11 AM
Wacky Ads #2 - Plastered

Plastered
Whiskey Flavored Peanuts
Favored by drinkers everywhere


Real Product
Planter's
Dry Roasted Peanuts


I always liked the Wacky Plastered Peanut person. A good parody title. I am an admitted, biased user of the actual product. Looking through pictures to try and find a good match of actual product to Wacky, it strikes me that Planters was really big into product tie-ins and merchandising at an early time. Tons of Planters related cups, jars, trays, toys, etc. dating back quite a ways.

(https://s22.postimg.org/jmll4yqy5/plastered1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jmll4yqy5/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/gh0zer8bx/plastered2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gh0zer8bx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 25, 2016, 04:29:12 AM
I always liked the Wacky Plastered Peanut person. A good parody title. I am an admitted, biased user of the actual product. Looking through pictures to try and find a good match of actual product to Wacky, it strikes me that Planters was really big into product tie-ins and merchandising at an early time. Tons of Planters related cups, jars, trays, toys, etc. dating back quite a ways.

(https://s22.postimg.org/jmll4yqy5/plastered1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jmll4yqy5/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/gh0zer8bx/plastered2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gh0zer8bx/)

I've always liked this gag, and the peanuts are hysterical.  Great job on matching the packaging!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 25, 2016, 04:55:24 AM
Here is the Wacky Ads Plastered artwork compared to the 2nd series art.

(https://s11.postimg.org/lhmz3zb7z/Plastered_comparison.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lhmz3zb7z/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 25, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
Here is the Wacky Ads Plastered artwork compared to the 2nd series art.

(https://s11.postimg.org/lhmz3zb7z/Plastered_comparison.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lhmz3zb7z/)

The 2nd series art is vastly superior - those are the peanuts I love!  This is another product I call by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on October 25, 2016, 07:27:16 AM
Here is the Wacky Ads Plastered artwork compared to the 2nd series art.

(https://s11.postimg.org/lhmz3zb7z/Plastered_comparison.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lhmz3zb7z/)

I love noticing new things, like the change to the eye from the big eye to the eye patch.   Awesome!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 25, 2016, 12:02:54 PM
The peanut in the ads version definitely looks more civilized.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 25, 2016, 02:25:28 PM
The peanut in the ads version definitely looks more civilized.

And therefore less Wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on October 25, 2016, 04:50:34 PM
I love noticing new things, like the change to the eye from the big eye to the eye patch.   Awesome!

And the expressions on the peanuts in the jars are so much more refined (well, at least artistically).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 26, 2016, 02:38:09 AM
Wacky Ads #3 - Minute Mud

Minute Mud
Frozen Orange Juice
The favorite of sophisticated pigs everywhere


Real Product
Minute Maid
Frozen Concentrated
Orange Juice


I would have preferred a "dirty" alternative (Having to do with mud - dirty, don't take that the wrong way)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 26, 2016, 03:21:14 PM
Here is the Minute Mud Wacky Ad compared to the 2nd series sticker...
(http://s21.postimg.org/cukx9f8g3/Minute_Mud_art_comparison.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cukx9f8g3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 26, 2016, 05:21:02 PM
Here is the Minute Mud Wacky Ad compared to the 2nd series sticker...
(http://s21.postimg.org/cukx9f8g3/Minute_Mud_art_comparison.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cukx9f8g3/)

And the actual product...
(http://s21.postimg.org/ishlo0o0j/minute2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ishlo0o0j/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 26, 2016, 05:29:10 PM
And the actual product...
(http://s21.postimg.org/ishlo0o0j/minute2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ishlo0o0j/)

Wow, remember that plastic white strip used to open it!     It was sometimes tough to grip.

As a kid I remember when it was my job to make OJ, I would sneak a little spoonful of frozen concentrate before I put it in the pitcher and added water.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 27, 2016, 02:22:52 AM
Wacky Ads #4 - Gloom

Old Gloom Toothpaste
With secret ingredient
Sulfuric Acid


Real Product
Gleem Toothpaste
Fluoride and Brightener


I guess sulfuric acid isn't secret if it says it on the package, huh?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 27, 2016, 04:43:03 AM
Gloom artwork comparison. The gag wording is different.

(http://s3.postimg.org/baqvu82f3/Gloom.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/baqvu82f3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 27, 2016, 05:37:03 AM
Wow, remember that plastic white strip used to open it!     It was sometimes tough to grip.

As a kid I remember when it was my job to make OJ, I would sneak a little spoonful of frozen concentrate before I put it in the pitcher and added water.

Minute Mud is a good gag, and another product I still call by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 27, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
Gloom artwork comparison. The gag wording is different.

(http://s3.postimg.org/baqvu82f3/Gloom.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/baqvu82f3/)


Wow, Gleem has sure changed their packaging design a lot over the years. The closest I could find to the WP tube is a Gleem II box below. Anyone have a better match?   This a meh  Wacky for me. We didn't use this product so it didn't have much of an emotional appeal and the gags seem just mediocre on this one.


(http://s13.postimg.org/5hsbkolgj/gleem2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5hsbkolgj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 27, 2016, 08:35:42 AM
Here is a different photo of Gleem...

(http://s13.postimg.org/64prk26cj/Gleem1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/64prk26cj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 28, 2016, 02:57:40 PM
Wacky Ads #5 - Vile

Vile Soap
Used by people who want privacy


Real Product
Dial Soap
Deodorant and Beauty Soap
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 28, 2016, 05:39:23 PM
Vile soap art comparison
(https://s16.postimg.org/3uz8wjmtd/Vile_soap.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3uz8wjmtd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 28, 2016, 07:12:40 PM
Here is a different photo of Gleem...

(http://s13.postimg.org/64prk26cj/Gleem1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/64prk26cj/)

Apparently no tubes from that epoch have survived.   :'(
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 28, 2016, 07:22:38 PM
Wacky Ads #5 - Vile

Vile Soap
Used by people who want privacy


Real Product
Dial Soap
Deodorant and Beauty Soap


Gotta love that skunk... the little stinker.

(https://s17.postimg.org/vouph1zl7/vile1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vouph1zl7/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/r48j24fvv/vile2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r48j24fvv/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/tbcrq1l63/vile4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tbcrq1l63/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 29, 2016, 03:30:55 AM
Wacky Ads #6 - Ajerx

Ajerx
The Do Nothing cleanser
Condemned by Good Housebreaking
You gotta be a jerk to use it


Real Product
Ajax
Recommended by Good Housekeeping ?
Blue Dot
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 29, 2016, 03:44:37 AM
Gotta love that skunk... the little stinker.

(https://s17.postimg.org/vouph1zl7/vile1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vouph1zl7/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/r48j24fvv/vile2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r48j24fvv/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/tbcrq1l63/vile4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tbcrq1l63/)

Vile is middle of the pack for me.  The rhyme title and gag are OK, and you're right, that's a great little skunk.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 29, 2016, 04:52:28 AM
Gotta love that skunk... the little stinker.

(https://s17.postimg.org/vouph1zl7/vile1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vouph1zl7/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/r48j24fvv/vile2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r48j24fvv/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/tbcrq1l63/vile4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tbcrq1l63/)

I always thought the Dial wrapper was yellow, but it's actually gold, eh?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 29, 2016, 04:53:30 AM
Here are the different Ajerx artworks for comparison...

(https://s21.postimg.org/zfa8bghkj/Ajerx.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zfa8bghkj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 29, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
Here are the different Ajerx artworks for comparison...

(https://s21.postimg.org/zfa8bghkj/Ajerx.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zfa8bghkj/)

Another tough one to find matching original packaging...

(https://s12.postimg.org/seqjzff2h/ajerx1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/seqjzff2h/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 29, 2016, 07:56:20 AM
Another tough one to find matching original packaging...

(https://s12.postimg.org/seqjzff2h/ajerx1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/seqjzff2h/)

I think Ajerx is a great Wacky - good gag, great character, and a nicely done reproduction of the can.  Another product I still call by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on October 29, 2016, 09:20:16 AM
Agreed! That character is immortal :notworthy:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on October 29, 2016, 10:25:51 AM


           (http://www.wackypacks.com/animation/ajerx2.gif)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 29, 2016, 12:46:26 PM
Another tough one to find matching original packaging...

(https://s12.postimg.org/seqjzff2h/ajerx1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/seqjzff2h/)

The Lost Wackys website has a packaging photo that is kind of close to the Wacky Ads version...

(https://s22.postimg.org/yszckbnml/AJAX.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yszckbnml/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 30, 2016, 05:43:58 AM
Wacky Ads #7 - Blunder Bread

Blunder
Extra Heavy Bread
Build your body just by lifting the package!


Real Product
Wonder
Enriched Bread
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on October 30, 2016, 06:51:38 AM
Wacky Ads #7 - Blunder Bread

Blunder
Extra Heavy Bread
Build your body just by lifting the package!


Real Product
Wonder
Enriched Bread


art comparison:

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz951zrp9/Blunder.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz951zrp9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 30, 2016, 08:08:37 AM
I think the quality of the gags and art increases in series 2.  We learned that Norm did NOT "paint all the diecuts" and in fact, once Topps realized they had something hot in wackys and saw how good Norms characters and touch ups were in the diecuts, they increased the usage of Norm.  I am not sure if the gag writers changed too but there seem to be fewer weird abstract references to things kids couldn't possible relate in this series.

I love the titles discussed so far from series 2, not so much the wacky ad versions but the series 2 versions. Like Pat, I refer to almost all of the products by their wacky names. 

Blunder is the first one I am not a fan of from the list so far, I think of blunder as making a mistake and could never reconcile "blunder" and it being heavy.  This should have been wanderbread with the slices of bread wandering around like we had all proposed long ago and like the gag was presented in recent wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 30, 2016, 09:17:53 AM
art comparison:

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz951zrp9/Blunder.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz951zrp9/)

Between pictures 2 and 3 below, they figured out how to build strong bodies 4 additional ways. Because... SCIENCE!

(https://s13.postimg.org/7c2x1d37n/blunder2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7c2x1d37n/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/4j9phc2v7/blunder3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4j9phc2v7/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/rm08gi4cj/blunder4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rm08gi4cj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on October 30, 2016, 10:54:45 AM
Love the bulbous, random muscles. Reminds me of Jack Davis.

art comparison:

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz951zrp9/Blunder.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz951zrp9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on October 30, 2016, 11:11:46 AM
The Blunder title in and of itself isn't a great obvious gag like Ajerx, but I always just figured they made a mistake baking the bread and it came out really heavy, instead of light and fluffy like it was supposed to.  The packaging is so well done that it was, and still is, a favorite of mine.  Maybe this one is just pure nostalgia for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on October 31, 2016, 12:10:17 PM
Wacky Ads #8 - Metrekill

Metrekill Diet Drink
You'll Die Dieting
No Taste
Garbage Flavor


Real Product
Metrecal Protein Effective
New Taste
Double Fudge


I would've loved to have seen this as a sticker with that skeleton on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on October 31, 2016, 12:55:27 PM
Wacky Ads #8 - Metrekill

Metrekill Diet Drink
You'll Die Dieting
No Taste
Garbage Flavor


Real Product
Metrecal Protein Effective
New Taste
Double Fudge


I would've loved to have seen this as a sticker with that skeleton on it.


I had no idea what this product was as a kid. How about tags like "Sludge Flavored", "New waste", and "Proven Defective"  to match the original more closely.


(https://s16.postimg.org/nb0j4qj3l/metrekill2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nb0j4qj3l/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/akwarnb5d/metrekill1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/akwarnb5d/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on October 31, 2016, 07:49:00 PM

I had no idea what this product was as a kid. How about tags like "Sludge Flavored", "New waste", and "Proven Defective"  to match the original more closely.


(https://s16.postimg.org/nb0j4qj3l/metrekill2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nb0j4qj3l/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/akwarnb5d/metrekill1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/akwarnb5d/)
I am also unfamiliar with the product, the wacky doesn't nothing for me, I know skeleton stuff appeals to many, this is a bottom 10% wacky for me
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 01, 2016, 02:36:45 AM
Wacky Ads #9 - Ultra Blight

Ultra Blight
Toothpaste
Cleans your teeth... right out of your mouth!


Real Product
Ultra Brite
Toothpaste
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 01, 2016, 03:32:41 AM
Wacky Ads #9 - Ultra Blight

Ultra Blight
Toothpaste
Cleans your teeth... right out of your mouth!


Real Product
Ultra Brite
Toothpaste


Another instance where there is not much on the original packaging to work with. Another WP I rate a "meh".


(https://s21.postimg.org/p1k3ui4rn/ultra1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p1k3ui4rn/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/b95oyve03/ultra2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b95oyve03/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/3ugd6hs4j/ultra3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3ugd6hs4j/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 01, 2016, 06:27:59 AM
This one always felt more like a public health reminder: "Don't forget to brush twice daily...or else!"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 01, 2016, 06:52:17 AM
This one always felt more like a public health reminder: "Don't forget to brush twice daily...or else!"

Agreed.  Bottom of the pack for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 01, 2016, 08:13:14 AM
art comparison:

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz951zrp9/Blunder.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz951zrp9/)

I never noticed until now that the Blunder guy in the Wacky Ad doesn't have any hair.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 01, 2016, 12:57:08 PM
I like the concept of Ultra Blight, but I don't think it was executed well.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 02, 2016, 02:24:45 AM
Wacky Ads # 10 - Boo Hoo

Boo - Hoo
Tear Flavored Drink
Drink it 'n' weep


Real Product
Yoo - Hoo


I can't find this original product, but I will give it a point because I've always loved YooHoo.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 02, 2016, 03:50:16 AM
Wacky Ads # 10 - Boo Hoo

Boo - Hoo
Tear Flavored Drink
Drink it 'n' weep


Real Product
Yoo - Hoo


I can't find this original product, but I will give it a point because I've always loved YooHoo.

     As a kid, there was no candy or soda I didn't like, but I never had a hankering for Yoo Hoo. Another example where the WP artist did not have much of a starting point to work with. I didn't find any photo evidence that Yoo Hoo came in a short bottle matching that packaging style back in the 1970s, so may be another incidence where the WP artist took artistic license for a better fit on the sticker.

(https://s11.postimg.org/7ygs50ncv/boohoo1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ygs50ncv/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/6yqh9b873/boohoo3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6yqh9b873/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/db5mj5b9b/boohoo2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/db5mj5b9b/)


(https://s14.postimg.org/4w0p46cot/boohoo4.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/4w0p46cot/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 02, 2016, 04:40:42 AM
This is a pretty obvious gag, and while this isn't one of my favorite Wackys, it's not bad.  There was very little for the artist to work with packaging-wise, but at least they got a decent crying guy on the label.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 02, 2016, 04:59:43 AM
     As a kid, there was no candy or soda I didn't like, but I never had a hankering for Yoo Hoo. Another example where the WP artist did not have much of a starting point to work with. I didn't find any photo evidence that Yoo Hoo came in a short bottle matching that packaging style back in the 1970s, so may be another incidence where the WP artist took artistic license for a better fit on the sticker.

(https://s11.postimg.org/7ygs50ncv/boohoo1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ygs50ncv/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/6yqh9b873/boohoo3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6yqh9b873/)

(https://s11.postimg.org/db5mj5b9b/boohoo2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/db5mj5b9b/)


(https://s14.postimg.org/4w0p46cot/boohoo4.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/4w0p46cot/)

Here are some more real product photos...

(https://s16.postimg.org/6cw8c5add/Yoo_Hoo1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6cw8c5add/)


(https://s15.postimg.org/5tijnhnfr/Yoo_Hoo2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5tijnhnfr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 03, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
Wacky Ads #11 - Hurts

Swallowing this stuff really HURTS your stomach
Pasty Tomatoes


Real Product
Hunt's
Tomato Paste


Definitely one I like.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 03, 2016, 02:00:16 PM
Wacky Ads #11 - Hurts

Swallowing this stuff really HURTS your stomach
Pasty Tomatoes


Real Product
Hunt's
Tomato Paste


Definitely one I like.


I have always liked the Hurting tomato. Such emoting!

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz3g61fl9/hurts1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz3g61fl9/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/b36dox8kx/hunts2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b36dox8kx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 03, 2016, 03:09:37 PM

I have always liked the Hurting tomato. Such emoting!

(https://s14.postimg.org/pz3g61fl9/hurts1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pz3g61fl9/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/b36dox8kx/hunts2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b36dox8kx/)

I really enjoy this one.  That poor, pained tomato just gets me every time!  And it's a good gag on the product name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 04, 2016, 02:16:45 AM
Wacky Ads #12 - Guerrilla Milk

Guerrilla Milk
Killing
Instant Breakfast
Give it to your enemies - it gets rid of them fast!


Real Product
Gorilla Milk
Instant Breakfast


This would've been so good as a sticker..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 04, 2016, 05:43:11 AM
Going back to Ultra Blight for a moment - here is something I didn't know. Topps used the Wacky Ads artwork for the Shedd's sticker.

(https://s16.postimg.org/wowzzlzi9/ultrablight_compare.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wowzzlzi9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 04, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
Just getting caught up on art comparisons. Scot posted the Ultra Blights.

(https://s12.postimg.org/ghz2jk0yx/Boo_Hoo_Tear_Drink.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ghz2jk0yx/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/jem3ju6sp/Hurts.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jem3ju6sp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 04, 2016, 12:52:48 PM
Wacky Ads #12 - Guerrilla Milk

Guerrilla Milk
Killing
Instant Breakfast
Give it to your enemies - it gets rid of them fast!


Real Product
Gorilla Milk
Instant Breakfast


This would've been so good as a sticker..

Never had heard of this product as a kid. The real product almost seems like a parody itself. Have you ever tried milking a gorilla?



(https://s14.postimg.org/bgp919mfx/gorilla1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bgp919mfx/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/uab1y9knx/Gorilla2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uab1y9knx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 04, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
Never had heard of this product as a kid. The real product almost seems like a parody itself. Have you ever tried milking a gorilla?

I hope not..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 04, 2016, 09:26:09 PM
The Hurts sticker has one of my favorite characters. I love that tomato!

Just getting caught up on art comparisons. Scot posted the Ultra Blights.

(https://s12.postimg.org/ghz2jk0yx/Boo_Hoo_Tear_Drink.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ghz2jk0yx/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/jem3ju6sp/Hurts.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jem3ju6sp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 05, 2016, 06:50:17 AM
Just getting caught up on art comparisons. Scot posted the Ultra Blights.

(https://s12.postimg.org/ghz2jk0yx/Boo_Hoo_Tear_Drink.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ghz2jk0yx/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/jem3ju6sp/Hurts.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jem3ju6sp/)

The tomato lost his right foot in transition from the ad to the sticker  ;)   I love noticing these little subtleties
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 05, 2016, 07:39:45 AM
Comparing the 2nd series to the ads also reinforces my feeling that Saunders' precision and attention to detail with packaging is one of the biggest reasons wackys are so appealing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 05, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
Wacky Ads #13 - Chicken Fat

Chicken Fat
Laundry Detergent
For Lovelier Stains


Fab
Laundry Detergent
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 05, 2016, 10:08:44 AM
Did someone say in an earlier post that someone else painted the packaging while Saunders did the characters?


Comparing the 2nd series to the ads also reinforces my feeling that Saunders' precision and attention to detail with packaging is one of the biggest reasons wackys are so appealing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 05, 2016, 10:09:47 AM
This one always seemed like a stretch to me. Maybe the biggest stretch in all of Wackydom. Fab to Chicken Fat.

Wacky Ads #13 - Chicken Fat

Chicken Fat
Laundry Detergent
For Lovelier Stains


Fab
Laundry Detergent

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 05, 2016, 10:20:41 AM
Here is the Chicken Fat art comparisons...

(https://s16.postimg.org/6dbq0s7cx/Chicken_Fat.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6dbq0s7cx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 05, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
This one always seemed like a stretch to me. Maybe the biggest stretch in all of Wackydom. Fab to Chicken Fat.

Agreed. I never understood this one as a kid.  Not sure what "Lovelier stains" exactly means.  And where did the chicken come from?  Why not just call it Fat, And go from there. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Joe G. on November 05, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
I thought the reference for this was the term "Chicken Fat" coined for MAD comics to describe all the lovely detail and gags Bill Elder put into his work.  The term references Jewish cooking and Chicken Fat which is the tasty part of Chicken Soup.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 05, 2016, 03:30:47 PM
Here is the Chicken Fat art comparisons...

(https://s16.postimg.org/6dbq0s7cx/Chicken_Fat.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6dbq0s7cx/)


(https://s21.postimg.org/vlng19nwz/fab1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vlng19nwz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 05, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
Did someone say in an earlier post that someone else painted the packaging while Saunders did the characters?
yes, I quoted David Saunders recent email to me.  I always found it interesting how misinformation flows through this hobby.  "Norm did all of the diecuts" really is completely wrong as it suggests Norm did 100% of all of paintings. In fact, he didn't do 100% of ANY of the paintings and he did 0% of Boredoms according to David.

Dave S(Paul Maul here) is probably correct that as series 2 and later series came about, Norm did higher % of the whole wacky which included doing the packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 05, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
I really enjoy this one.  That poor, pained tomato just gets me every time!  And it's a good gag on the product name.
Being the owner of the original art to Hurts, of course I love it!  Isn't it ironic that I was going to be the one to "sell out" my art and I only collected the art to flip it yet every one of those folks endedup being the sellouts and have sold all of their art?  I still own Hurts and several other pieces.  I have gotten a few really generous offers for Hurts but the timing was never right.  Some day someone will catch me right and I will sell it but for now, it is easy to say that not all the "A" pieces are in one art collection(Eric's).  There are several wacky art collections that have quite a few pieces but just no "A" pieces so maybe Hurts will one day go there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Joe G. on November 05, 2016, 08:38:39 PM
Well in terms of Norm's work I don't believe he ever did any airbrushing on Wackys.  So if a Wacky contains airbrushing he couldn't have done 100% of it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 05, 2016, 09:04:39 PM
yes, I quoted David Saunders recent email to me.  I always found it interesting how misinformation flows through this hobby.  "Norm did all of the diecuts" really is completely wrong as it suggests Norm did 100% of all of paintings. In fact, he didn't do 100% of ANY of the paintings and he did 0% of Boredoms according to David.

Well, if misinformation is flowing, it could be because of quotes like this from David's site:

"1967 ­ Wacky Packages ("Die-Cut" series) ­ 44 cards (plus 12 alternates) (Die-Cut images with moisture-activated adhesive backs) [All cards were painted by Norman Saunders.]"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 06, 2016, 03:32:42 AM
Wacky Ads #14 - Garbage Baby Food

Garbage Baby Food
Pre-chewed MUSH
Strained from the finest Grade "A" garbage


Real Product
Gerber Baby Food
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 06, 2016, 04:22:04 AM
Garbage vs. Gurgle...what do you prefer?

(https://s15.postimg.org/cm4wagnvb/Garbage_Baby_Food.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cm4wagnvb/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/gurir9ayp/Gerber.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gurir9ayp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 06, 2016, 04:57:29 AM
Garbage vs. Gurgle...what do you prefer?

(https://s15.postimg.org/cm4wagnvb/Garbage_Baby_Food.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cm4wagnvb/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/gurir9ayp/Gerber.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gurir9ayp/)

Neither! I prefer Gargle ;)
(https://s13.postimg.org/ovlzktpyr/WP_WONKY_Gargle.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ovlzktpyr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 06, 2016, 05:13:36 AM
yes, I quoted David Saunders recent email to me.  I always found it interesting how misinformation flows through this hobby.  "Norm did all of the diecuts" really is completely wrong as it suggests Norm did 100% of all of paintings. In fact, he didn't do 100% of ANY of the paintings and he did 0% of Boredoms according to David.

You're absolutely correct! Some of the names are now forgotten, but there were several other contributors to the final art, including Mae Jeon, an amazing water color and airbrush artist that did many of the product renderings. Topps also had an in-house art department that did lettering and other small details.

I think we tend to forget some of the others because Norm's characters were so dynamic (and hilarious) that they became the focus of most of the attention.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 06, 2016, 07:31:09 AM
Gee, I have to go with Gurgle...

Garbage vs. Gurgle...what do you prefer?

(https://s15.postimg.org/cm4wagnvb/Garbage_Baby_Food.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cm4wagnvb/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/gurir9ayp/Gerber.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gurir9ayp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 06, 2016, 07:37:58 AM
Being the owner of the original art to Hurts, of course I love it!  Isn't it ironic that I was going to be the one to "sell out" my art and I only collected the art to flip it yet every one of those folks endedup being the sellouts and have sold all of their art?  I still own Hurts and several other pieces.  I have gotten a few really generous offers for Hurts but the timing was never right.  Some day someone will catch me right and I will sell it but for now, it is easy to say that not all the "A" pieces are in one art collection(Eric's).  There are several wacky art collections that have quite a few pieces but just no "A" pieces so maybe Hurts will one day go there.

Hurts is a fantastic Wacky.  How has the original painting held up over the years? 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 06, 2016, 07:44:22 AM
Garbage vs. Gurgle...what do you prefer?

(https://s15.postimg.org/cm4wagnvb/Garbage_Baby_Food.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cm4wagnvb/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/gurir9ayp/Gerber.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gurir9ayp/)

I prefer the Garbage gag.  Gurgle never quite made sense to me, but I always liked the funny baby on the label.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 06, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
Hurts is a fantastic Wacky.  How has the original painting held up over the years?
Better than when it was first discovered. David Saunders meticulously removed some of the brown gunk that had attached itself to the upper part of the art and since he has his dads actual paint, he touched up the spots it left, it looks fantastic.

(https://s13.postimg.org/n5ga4z5v7/HURTS_new.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n5ga4z5v7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 06, 2016, 06:47:27 PM
Well, if misinformation is flowing, it could be because of quotes like this from David's site:

"1967 ­ Wacky Packages ("Die-Cut" series) ­ 44 cards (plus 12 alternates) (Die-Cut images with moisture-activated adhesive backs) [All cards were painted by Norman Saunders.]"

I will drop him a note and mention this.  I know this topic came up years ago, we all chatted with David and we all can see with our discerning eyes that clearly the art improved after the die-cut series and I know David has confirmed this trend more than once for us.  Much like a lot of our other discoveries that we have forgotten about, no harm in digging this up and discussing again. 

As you stated, series 2 versus wacky ads really shows Norm taking over a much higher % of the work per piece.  Its one of the reasons I wouldn't trade my Hurts for a Series 1 piece and why I went after Hurts more than Fink in Dan's auction.  You should see the Frankenstein art that Norm did in the 1960's.  100% Norm, the detail blows away all wackys.  Best art pickup I ever for me was that Frankenstein art

Here is one of my favorites:

http://www.wackypackage.com/Wacky%20Packs/Frankensteinart/misc-youvetiedmedown.JPG

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on November 06, 2016, 08:04:36 PM
I wouldn't trade my Hurts for a Series 1 piece
Not even Band-Ache?  :)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 07, 2016, 03:11:35 AM
Better than when it was first discovered. David Saunders meticulously removed some of the brown gunk that had attached itself to the upper part of the art and since he has his dads actual paint, he touched up the spots it left, it looks fantastic.

(https://s13.postimg.org/n5ga4z5v7/HURTS_new.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n5ga4z5v7/)

That is absolutely gorgeous!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 07, 2016, 07:31:19 AM
Not even Band-Ache?  :)
Not sure, I saw band-ache art in person and it was more white and washed out than I had expected.  Because it is such an inconic piece and my favorite, of course I would really have to but from an artistic and condition of art point of view, band-ache has no iconic Saunders character. Not the no brainer trade you would expect.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 07, 2016, 12:08:07 PM
Wacky Ads #15 - Blecch

Things grow better with Blecch Shampoo and Fertilizer
Grow flowers in your hair


Real Product
Breck Shampoo
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 07, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
We just keep moving along...OK...here is the Blecch artwork compared...

(https://s12.postimg.org/732oehbjt/Blecch.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/732oehbjt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 07, 2016, 05:13:54 PM
We just keep moving along...OK...here is the Blecch artwork compared...

(https://s12.postimg.org/732oehbjt/Blecch.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/732oehbjt/)



(https://s22.postimg.org/85qq7b6d9/blech.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/85qq7b6d9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 08, 2016, 04:02:41 AM
We just keep moving along...OK...here is the Blecch artwork compared...

(https://s12.postimg.org/732oehbjt/Blecch.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/732oehbjt/)

This one never did anything for me.  Bland art, no character, and a weak gag.  This is one where I prefer the Wacky Ad instead of the Series 2 sticker - at least the extra stuff on the Ad includes characters.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 08, 2016, 04:48:31 AM
I prefer this version....

(https://s19.postimg.cc/cnzmbo2lf/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 08, 2016, 05:23:54 AM
Where and when was that created and/or published??
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 08, 2016, 07:11:38 AM
Where and when was that created and/or published??

It was the back cover of the October, 1964 Mad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 08, 2016, 12:47:49 PM
Wacky Ads #18 - Schtick Blades

Boy, do these blades Schtick
Be a cut-up
Stupid Stained Steel


Real Product
Schick
Super
5 Super Stained Steel
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on November 08, 2016, 02:11:19 PM
I will drop him a note and mention this.  I know this topic came up years ago, we all chatted with David and we all can see with our discerning eyes that clearly the art improved after the die-cut series and I know David has confirmed this trend more than once for us.  Much like a lot of our other discoveries that we have forgotten about, no harm in digging this up and discussing again. 

As you stated, series 2 versus wacky ads really shows Norm taking over a much higher % of the work per piece.  Its one of the reasons I wouldn't trade my Hurts for a Series 1 piece and why I went after Hurts more than Fink in Dan's auction.  You should see the Frankenstein art that Norm did in the 1960's.  100% Norm, the detail blows away all wackys.  Best art pickup I ever for me was that Frankenstein art

Here is one of my favorites:

http://www.wackypackage.com/Wacky%20Packs/Frankensteinart/misc-youvetiedmedown.JPG
Just looking at the art, it obviously improved from series 1 onward, I am fairly certain I called out glaring examples of this on other threads.  I just don't care enough to try to find the posts. Some middle series pieces are subpar, I suspect these other artists still had a hand in the art along the way.  Series 16 has some of the best detail in the run!    Hey, if you ever want to sell a piece of Frankenstein art, let me know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on November 08, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
Gosh, so much to catch up.  Will just comment on Gurgle, Bleech and Hurts. 

Gurgle: boring but I do like more than Garbage for nostalgic reasons, never saw wacky ads as a kid
Bleech: ugh
Hurts: love it, notice the tilt in the Hurts guy is different from wacky ad to 2nd series, maybe that is why the foot disappears.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 08, 2016, 07:05:01 PM
Wacky Ads #18 - Schtick Blades

Boy, do these blades Schtick
Be a cut-up
Stupid Stained Steel


Real Product
Schick
Super
5 Super Stained Steel


Schtick artwork compared:

(https://s4.postimg.org/xk470kzs9/Schtick.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xk470kzs9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 08, 2016, 07:58:51 PM
Schtick artwork compared:

(https://s4.postimg.org/xk470kzs9/Schtick.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xk470kzs9/)


(https://s18.postimg.org/a4ysilxyt/schick.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a4ysilxyt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 09, 2016, 03:30:09 AM
Schtick is middle of the pack for me.  Not a bad gag, they nailed the packaging, and managed to get a character on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 09, 2016, 07:50:10 AM
Schtick artwork compared:

(https://s4.postimg.org/xk470kzs9/Schtick.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xk470kzs9/)

So the series 2 sticker lost a comma and added blood, nice!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 09, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
Wacky Ads #19 - Nertz

Garlic Flavored
Nertz
Takes your breath away...forever


Real Product
Certs
Candy Breath Mints


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 09, 2016, 12:50:32 PM
Wacky Ads #19 - Nertz

Garlic Flavored
Nertz
Takes your breath away...forever


Real Product
Certs
Candy Breath Mints


Another meh title for me. In case someone wonders... nertz is defined as:  nonsense, nuts —often used interjectionally.  Anyone remember the "two, two. two mints in one" ad campaign shown below?


(https://s12.postimg.org/j3didmpm1/nertz3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j3didmpm1/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/xnul8gkkp/nertz2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xnul8gkkp/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/xchq9ftih/nertz1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xchq9ftih/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 11, 2016, 02:00:12 AM
I guess the bad computer thing was a one day conundrum..

Wacky Ads #22 - Ditch Masters

Ditch Masters
Cheap Cigars
Ditchdiggers favorite smoke


Real Product
Dutch Masters
Cigars
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 11, 2016, 02:02:00 AM
Wacky Ads #23 - Poopsi

Poopsi
For those who are young


Real Product
Pepsi


Doing two in a row for the lost ad of yesterday..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 11, 2016, 05:13:23 AM
I guess the bad computer thing was a one day conundrum..

Wacky Ads #22 - Ditch Masters

Ditch Masters
Cheap Cigars
Ditchdiggers favorite smoke


Real Product
Dutch Masters
Cigars


Glad things are back in working order! Here is the Ditch Masters art compared...

(https://s13.postimg.org/vbyeip6lv/Ditch_Masters.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vbyeip6lv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 11, 2016, 05:14:12 AM
Wacky Ads #23 - Poopsi

Poopsi
For those who are young


Real Product
Pepsi


Doing two in a row for the lost ad of yesterday..

...and a pair of Poopsies!

(https://s18.postimg.org/ddsl4wi39/Poopsi.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ddsl4wi39/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 11, 2016, 06:47:07 AM
Glad things are back in working order! Here is the Ditch Masters art compared...

(https://s13.postimg.org/vbyeip6lv/Ditch_Masters.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vbyeip6lv/)

Wow, what a difference.  The series 2 sticker makes the Ad look like a child did the faces of the ditch diggers. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 11, 2016, 06:49:30 AM
...and a pair of Poopsies!

(https://s18.postimg.org/ddsl4wi39/Poopsi.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ddsl4wi39/)

Has there ever been any documentation on why the added the 'e' to poopsi?  They also deleted the underline to the word are, but that is not a big deal.   I always likes this one, very simple but the detail on the bottle is outstanding.  Plus I guess the familiarity with the products helps. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 11, 2016, 07:03:25 AM
I think not underlining the "are" is very damaging to the joke.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 11, 2016, 07:07:53 AM
Has there ever been any documentation on why the added the 'e' to poopsi?  They also deleted the underline to the word are, but that is not a big deal.   I always likes this one, very simple but the detail on the bottle is outstanding.  Plus I guess the familiarity with the products helps.

Poopsie does have great detailing on the bottle, and the gag isn't bad.  If it had a character, it would be a little higher in the stack for me.  Still, this isn't the Wacky name I call Pepsi when I buy it in the store.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 11, 2016, 07:30:26 AM
Glad things are back in working order! Here is the Ditch Masters art compared...

(https://s13.postimg.org/vbyeip6lv/Ditch_Masters.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vbyeip6lv/)


(https://s18.postimg.org/4ooecnnyd/ditch.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ooecnnyd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 11, 2016, 07:35:36 AM
...and a pair of Poopsies!

(https://s18.postimg.org/ddsl4wi39/Poopsi.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ddsl4wi39/)

Another product that has had a skazillion (mathematical  term) product variations over the years. Here's the best match I could find...


(https://s21.postimg.org/l1jsxryv7/poopsie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/l1jsxryv7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 11, 2016, 09:13:33 AM
Another product that has had a skazillion (mathematical  term) product variations over the years. Here's the best match I could find...

(https://s21.postimg.org/l1jsxryv7/poopsie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/l1jsxryv7/)

Nothing much to work with but the swirled glass bottle!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 11, 2016, 11:02:40 AM
Nothing much to work with but the swirled glass bottle!

Not even one of their more elaborate Logos.


(https://s21.postimg.org/z5ults2wj/Pepsi.png) (https://postimg.org/image/z5ults2wj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 12, 2016, 03:56:31 AM
Wacky Ads #24 - Cap'n Crud

Cap'n Crud
Inside: Real pirate!
Tastes cruddy - even in milk
"Help!"


Real Product
Cap'n Crunch
Stays crunchy ...even in milk


One of the most iconic wackys in my opinion.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 12, 2016, 09:05:08 AM
Okay, now we're talking!

Wacky Ads #24 - Cap'n Crud

Cap'n Crud
Inside: Real pirate!
Tastes cruddy - even in milk
"Help!"


Real Product
Cap'n Crunch
Stays crunchy ...even in milk


One of the most iconic wackys in my opinion.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 12, 2016, 09:32:14 AM
Wacky Ads #24 - Cap'n Crud

Cap'n Crud
Inside: Real pirate!
Tastes cruddy - even in milk
"Help!"


Real Product
Cap'n Crunch
Stays crunchy ...even in milk


One of the most iconic wackys in my opinion.

Fantastic title gag, great character, and the extra gag lines also crack me up.  This is one of the first titles I pulled from a pack as a kid, so maybe I'm prejudiced, but this is one of my absolute favorites for sure!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 12, 2016, 06:45:07 PM
A Couple of Caps...

(https://s14.postimg.org/uj5v9g1wd/Cap_n_Crud.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uj5v9g1wd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 13, 2016, 03:41:54 AM
A Couple of Caps...

(https://s14.postimg.org/uj5v9g1wd/Cap_n_Crud.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uj5v9g1wd/)


(https://s13.postimg.org/8gztq28ar/crunch.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8gztq28ar/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 13, 2016, 04:23:29 AM
Wacky Ads #25 - Good and Empty

Good and Empty
Contains 100% Air
Licorice Favored Box


Real Product
Good and Plenty
Artificially flavored licorice candy


Out of all of the titles, this one gets a C&D? That really surprises me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 13, 2016, 05:39:30 AM
Wacky Ads #25 - Good and Empty

Good and Empty
Contains 100% Air
Licorice Favored Box


Real Product
Good and Plenty
Artificially flavored licorice candy


Out of all of the titles, this one gets a C&D? That really surprises me.

Wacky Ad,  "Lost Wacky", Product


(https://s17.postimg.org/gjbjbnvqz/good1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gjbjbnvqz/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/3wqbrjgzh/good2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3wqbrjgzh/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/ttk045kn1/good3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ttk045kn1/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 13, 2016, 06:20:14 AM


Out of all of the titles, this one gets a C&D? That really surprises me.

Why? It's not like C&Ds go to the most offensive wacky. It's just whatever company chooses to make a stink.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 13, 2016, 06:27:37 AM
Wacky Ad,  "Lost Wacky", Product


(https://s17.postimg.org/gjbjbnvqz/good1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gjbjbnvqz/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/3wqbrjgzh/good2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3wqbrjgzh/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/ttk045kn1/good3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ttk045kn1/)

I like the title gag, but I think this one works best in the Ad format. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 13, 2016, 07:21:44 AM
I like the title gag, but I think this one works best in the Ad format.

Definitely! I think the blue background really "ads" to the appeal
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on November 13, 2016, 03:49:52 PM
Do you think that the next Wacky Ad could be Mixwell Hearse Coffee,the lost one that was supposed to replace Good and Empty? There's a picture of it in the Lost Wackys section of Greg's website if anyone needs to copy or print it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 14, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Wacky Ads (LOST WACKY) #25 - Mixwell Hearse

Mixwell Hearse Coffee
Good to the last breath


Real Product
Maxwell House Coffee
Regular Grind
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 14, 2016, 12:41:26 PM
Wacky Ads (LOST WACKY) #25 - Mixwell Hearse

Mixwell Hearse Coffee
Good to the last breath


Real Product
Maxwell House Coffee
Regular Grind



Planned Wacky Ad, "Lost Wacky Sticker", actual product...


(https://s17.postimg.org/cehwjgcyz/mixwell1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cehwjgcyz/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/xa46up963/mixwell2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xa46up963/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/ku7h0yfu3/mixwell3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ku7h0yfu3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on November 14, 2016, 03:28:32 PM
Thanks a lot,guys.That was really nice of you. I wonder if it's too late to include Janitor in a Slum and Lipoff Tea Bags,the two die-cuts that were never released.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 15, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Thanks a lot,guys.That was really nice of you. I wonder if it's too late to include Janitor in a Slum and Lipoff Tea Bags,the two die-cuts that were never released.

If I did those, (I guess WE, actually  :great:), I think I'd just implement them after this series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 15, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
Wacky Ads #26 - Kook

KOOK
Frozen King Size
Menthol Cigarettes for Mental Cases
Caution: May be hazardous to your mental health


Real Product
KOOL
Filter Kings
Menthol Cigarettes
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 15, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
Wacky Ads #26 - Kook

KOOK
Frozen King Size
Menthol Cigarettes for Mental Cases
Caution: May be hazardous to your mental health


Real Product
KOOL
Filter Kings
Menthol Cigarettes


I think Kook is the only parody to be illustrated 3 different times - Wacky Ads, then Wacky Packages, then Wacky Posters!

(https://s14.postimg.org/637othkgt/Kook.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/637othkgt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 15, 2016, 07:56:59 PM
I think Kook is the only parody to be illustrated 3 different times - Wacky Ads, then Wacky Packages, then Wacky Posters!

(https://s14.postimg.org/637othkgt/Kook.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/637othkgt/)

I added the 2nd picture below to show that although the package itself did not have a penguin on it, one was prominent in the advertising and displays.

(https://s16.postimg.org/eoc4spu5t/kool2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eoc4spu5t/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/h4dy6kc8h/kook1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h4dy6kc8h/)


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 15, 2016, 08:27:03 PM
Wacky Ads #26 - Kook

KOOK
Frozen King Size
Menthol Cigarettes for Mental Cases
Caution: May be hazardous to your mental health


Real Product
KOOL
Filter Kings
Menthol Cigarettes


I am not much into smoking related titles. I think this one is done well except "frozen" makes no sense even with the Penguin.  IF they needed an "f"word to replace "filtered", they could have used "freaky" or some word associated with "mental".  This could have been a great wacky with a vintage wacky norm character going mental.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 16, 2016, 07:31:56 AM
I think Kook is the only parody to be illustrated 3 different times - Wacky Ads, then Wacky Packages, then Wacky Posters!

(https://s14.postimg.org/637othkgt/Kook.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/637othkgt/)

And each illustration got progressively better!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on November 16, 2016, 07:54:40 AM
If I did those, (I guess WE, actually  :great:), I think I'd just implement them after this series.
Thanks again! This is really going above and beyond!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 16, 2016, 12:16:43 PM
Wacky Ads #27 - Exceedrin

Exceedrin
Relief for
Headaches
Beri*Beri
Ingrown Toenails
ETC. ETC. ETC.


Real Product
Excedrin
The extra strength pain reliever
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 16, 2016, 02:53:04 PM
Wacky Ads #27 - Exceedrin

Exceedrin
Relief for
Headaches
Beri*Beri
Ingrown Toenails
ETC. ETC. ETC.


Real Product
Excedrin
The extra strength pain reliever


Don't take more than the recommended dose of two Exceedrins...

(https://s22.postimg.org/it69rsoel/Exceedrin.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/it69rsoel/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 16, 2016, 03:57:28 PM
Don't take more than the recommended dose of two Exceedrins...

(https://s22.postimg.org/it69rsoel/Exceedrin.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/it69rsoel/)


(https://s15.postimg.org/fy7a4t7af/exedrin1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fy7a4t7af/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on November 16, 2016, 06:03:41 PM
Don't take more than the recommended dose of two Exceedrins...
You mean, don't exceed the recommended dose of two Exceedrins...?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 17, 2016, 12:05:49 PM
Wacky Ads #28 - Sludgsickle

Sludgsickle
The ice cream that makes you scream


Real Product
Fudgsicle


(No taglines it appears)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 18, 2016, 07:09:40 AM
You mean, don't exceed the recommended dose of two Exceedrins...?

That's even better! Every time I see your avatar, I think of Kevin Malone from The Office.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 18, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
Wacky Ads #30 - Commie

Extra strong
Commie Cleanser
Gets rid of reds, pinkos, hippies, yippies, and flippies


New extra strength
Comet Cleanser
Bleaches out stains... Disinfects better than any other leading cleanser
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on November 18, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
I suspect there is a better box match than the one I posted. I always loved the artwork on this one. On the weak side in terms of parody titles, but the visual on this one is so strong, its one of my favorites.


(https://s22.postimg.org/tthfhs2bx/liptorn1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tthfhs2bx/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/qnwtrkjpp/liptorn2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qnwtrkjpp/)

If no one has posted the original product yet - I'm still only on page 4 or so - I do recall the soup mix with a red and white checkered table cloth or pattern on the box.

Oh never mind - there it is on pg 5 - A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 18, 2016, 10:06:48 PM
If no one has posted the original product yet - I'm still only on page 4 or so - I do recall the soup mix with a red and white checkered table cloth or pattern on the box.

Check page 5 of the thread. I posted a photo of a box that is closer in design.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 18, 2016, 10:08:03 PM
Wacky Ads #30 - Commie

Extra strong
Commie Cleanser
Gets rid of reds, pinkos, hippies, yippies, and flippies


New extra strength
Comet Cleanser
Bleaches out stains... Disinfects better than any other leading cleanser


A couple of Commies...

(https://s21.postimg.org/ro4ybujwz/Commie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ro4ybujwz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 19, 2016, 07:36:00 PM
A couple of Commies...

(https://s21.postimg.org/ro4ybujwz/Commie.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ro4ybujwz/)


(https://s21.postimg.org/ho4wnvno3/commie3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ho4wnvno3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 19, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
Wacky Ads #28 - Sludgsickle

Sludgsickle
The ice cream that makes you scream


Real Product
Fudgsicle


(No taglines it appears)


Wacky Ad, "Lost Wacky", and original product.

(https://s13.postimg.org/twnwt3hgz/sludg1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/twnwt3hgz/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/qebwwpgkz/sludg2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qebwwpgkz/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/fsgadva4t/sludg3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fsgadva4t/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 20, 2016, 05:32:55 AM
Wacky Ads #31 - Sailem

Sailem
Crummy cigarettes
It's better to sail 'em than smoke 'em


Real Product
Salem
Menthol Fresh
Filter cigarettes


"...You can't take the country out of Salem"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 20, 2016, 05:56:19 AM
Wacky Ads #31 - Sailem

Sailem
Crummy cigarettes
It's better to sail 'em than smoke 'em


Real Product
Salem
Menthol Fresh
Filter cigarettes


"...You can't take the country out of Salem"

Two packs of Sailem...

(https://s17.postimg.org/6ge0hu34b/Sailem.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ge0hu34b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 20, 2016, 06:23:34 AM

Wacky Ad, "Lost Wacky", and original product.

(https://s13.postimg.org/twnwt3hgz/sludg1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/twnwt3hgz/)

(https://s13.postimg.org/qebwwpgkz/sludg2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qebwwpgkz/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/fsgadva4t/sludg3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fsgadva4t/)

A good gag, and had it been a Series 2 sticker I'd probably be calling the real product by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 20, 2016, 07:13:56 AM
Two packs of Sailem...

(https://s17.postimg.org/6ge0hu34b/Sailem.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ge0hu34b/)



(https://s16.postimg.org/dnjqwha6p/sail_em3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dnjqwha6p/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 20, 2016, 07:30:46 AM
Two packs of Sailem...

(https://s17.postimg.org/6ge0hu34b/Sailem.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ge0hu34b/)

I liked this one as a kid because I instantly recognized the packaging, but I think the gag is weak.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 20, 2016, 04:58:25 PM
I didn't see the ads until years later. Sludgsicle is one of the gags that I still find frustrating that it couldn't be in the sticker series.

A good gag, and had it been a Series 2 sticker I'd probably be calling the real product by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 20, 2016, 04:59:51 PM
This gag made me go "Huh? Did I read that right? Um, okay, I guess."

Two packs of Sailem...

(https://s17.postimg.org/6ge0hu34b/Sailem.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ge0hu34b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 20, 2016, 06:52:07 PM
A good gag, and had it been a Series 2 sticker I'd probably be calling the real product by the Wacky name.
I am with you 100% on this!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 20, 2016, 06:53:40 PM
This gag made me go "Huh? Did I read that right? Um, okay, I guess."
This gag is awful, awful awful.  Is there any oddball rationalization to this one?  Maybe some odd reference to Egyptian prime ministers or something?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Choke_Wagon on November 20, 2016, 10:47:51 PM
I liked this one as a kid because I instantly recognized the packaging, but I think the gag is weak.

I often wonder if Norm Saunders hated painting some of these gags. As a kid I never understood this one and now its just ho-hum- a filler gag.

In hindsight- it would have been funny if they tied in the Witches of Salem or something in that realm.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 21, 2016, 12:13:32 PM
Wacky Ads #32 - Botch Tape

Botch Tape
Stickiest stuff in town


Real Product
Scotch Brand
Transparent Tape
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on November 21, 2016, 04:32:31 PM
This gag is awful, awful awful.  Is there any oddball rationalization to this one?  Maybe some odd reference to Egyptian prime ministers or something?
hehehehe
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 21, 2016, 07:23:57 PM
Wacky Ads #32 - Botch Tape

Botch Tape
Stickiest stuff in town


Real Product
Scotch Brand
Transparent Tape


Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
(https://s11.postimg.org/lbmhzmmgf/Botch_Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lbmhzmmgf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 21, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
(https://s11.postimg.org/lbmhzmmgf/Botch_Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lbmhzmmgf/)

Another product with about e gazillion packaging styles over the years. This is about the closest i found on short order

(https://s22.postimg.org/xuyz117a5/botch3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xuyz117a5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on November 21, 2016, 08:18:54 PM
Botch for Scotch is a solid gag. And I love those flies! For me, though the packaging never had that Wacky realism, the kind that jumped out at me. Always seemed a little flat, not like something I could reach in and pick up. I'm sure part of it was I don't remember seeing Scotch Tape packaged that way in real life.

Another product with about e gazillion packaging styles over the years. This is about the closest i found on short order

(https://s22.postimg.org/xuyz117a5/botch3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xuyz117a5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 21, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
Love the compares, they're keeping me glued to this topic
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 21, 2016, 08:24:01 PM
Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
(https://s11.postimg.org/lbmhzmmgf/Botch_Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lbmhzmmgf/)
Loved this title, another product that is only referred to by its wacky name in my home.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Choke_Wagon on November 21, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
What bothers me about the Botch art is the execution seems flat compared to what the actual product it was based on now that I see now in the actual photo. The perspective is a bit weak and probably was rushed a bit at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on November 22, 2016, 12:14:26 AM
Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
(https://s11.postimg.org/lbmhzmmgf/Botch_Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lbmhzmmgf/)


This was my very first Wacky. Was the only sticker in the pack...my sister got 2 stickers, I cried. I was 5.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 22, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
I liked this one as a kid because I instantly recognized the packaging, but I think the gag is weak.

Same here.  This one is so simple, but for some reason I loved this one as a kid.  No character or anything.  Even the tag line makes no sense (how do you sail a cigarette?) but I liked it anyway.  Now, they really could have made a cool sticker for the town of Salem, and included a cool witch or something like that.  Maybe a witch being burned at the stake while lighting her cigarette on the flames from the fire?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 22, 2016, 09:01:51 AM
Here are both Botches. I like posting these art comparisons, so I think I'll stick with it for a while.
(https://s11.postimg.org/lbmhzmmgf/Botch_Tape.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lbmhzmmgf/)

A few things with this one.  First off, always loved it.  Great product recognition, plus I loved the flies.  I always wondered why this one was all black. It really stands out compared to almost all other Wacky's, just like Fearstone does for its uniqueness.  And even as a kid, i wondered why the tape was sticky on top, when the sticky part is underneath.

Also, just noticing now, What the heck happened to that middle fly!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 22, 2016, 12:09:30 PM
Same here.  This one is so simple, but for some reason I loved this one as a kid.  No character or anything.  Even the tag line makes no sense (how do you sail a cigarette?) but I liked it anyway.  Now, they really could have made a cool sticker for the town of Salem, and included a cool witch or something like that.  Maybe a witch being burned at the stake while lighting her cigarette on the flames from the fire?

Maybe the stake is a Salem cigarette?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 22, 2016, 12:12:10 PM
Wacky Ads #33 - All Brain

Kooloff's All - Brain
FREE! Antidote inside
The cereal that goes to your head


Real Product
Kellogg's All - Bran
Wheat bran cereal
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on November 22, 2016, 05:39:27 PM
I always wondered why this one was all black.
I always assumed that if it just had a standard black border around the image it would look odd, as there would only be a very small area of the border which would remain white. Probably looked better to just blacken the whole border like they did.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 22, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Wacky Ads #33 - All Brain

Kooloff's All - Brain
FREE! Antidote inside
The cereal that goes to your head


Real Product
Kellogg's All - Bran
Wheat bran cereal


A meeting of the minds...
(https://s16.postimg.org/m6wdqkpr5/All_Brain.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m6wdqkpr5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 22, 2016, 10:11:14 PM
A meeting of the minds...
(https://s16.postimg.org/m6wdqkpr5/All_Brain.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m6wdqkpr5/)


(https://s14.postimg.org/wwahes0vh/all_brain3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wwahes0vh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 23, 2016, 03:07:34 AM
A meeting of the minds...
(https://s16.postimg.org/m6wdqkpr5/All_Brain.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m6wdqkpr5/)

I think All-Brain is a great gag, with a funny tag line.  Gotta love a Wacky with a brain on it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 23, 2016, 03:32:13 AM
I also like All-Brain because it's green.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on November 23, 2016, 07:50:53 AM
I think All-Brain is a great gag, with a funny tag line.  Gotta love a Wacky with a brain on it!
Always liked this one but hate the "free antidote inside".  Why not free anything at all that refers to brain or skull like "free cranium inside"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 23, 2016, 12:11:14 PM
Wacky Ads #34 - Awful Bits

Pest Awful Bits
FREE 24 Vol. Set Encyclopedia Brittanica in every box!


Real Product
Post Alpha Bits
FREE dinky offer


One of my personal favorite wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on November 23, 2016, 04:48:51 PM
Always liked this one but hate the "free antidote inside".  Why not free anything at all that refers to brain or skull like "free cranium inside"

Or Free Thinking?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 23, 2016, 09:04:15 PM
Wacky Ads #34 - Awful Bits

Pest Awful Bits
FREE 24 Vol. Set Encyclopedia Brittanica in every box!


Real Product
Post Alpha Bits
FREE dinky offer


One of my personal favorite wackys.

Shave and a Haircut...Two Bits

(https://s21.postimg.org/54phm4bk3/Awful_Bits.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/54phm4bk3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on November 23, 2016, 09:16:28 PM
Always liked this one but hate the "free antidote inside".  Why not free anything at all that refers to brain or skull like "free cranium inside"

Or Free Thinking?

I like it Doctor!

I agree, "free antidote inside" is lame.      I guess it refers to an antidote "For the cereal that goes to your head"

Some ideas I thought of are

    "Contains complimentary grey matter"

    "Topps frontal lobe inside"

    "Therapy included"

    "For thinking outside of the box."

    "No pain, no gain"


OK, now I'm being ridiculous . . . 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 24, 2016, 02:15:21 AM
Shave and a Haircut...Two Bits

(https://s21.postimg.org/54phm4bk3/Awful_Bits.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/54phm4bk3/)

Ate a ton of this stuff when I was a kid so I always liked the parody. I never realized how poorly rendered the characters where on the Wacky Ad until comparing side by side. This one may be in the running for most improved Wacky from Ad to sticker.



(https://s13.postimg.org/xxpactner/alphabits_cereal.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xxpactner/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 24, 2016, 02:24:39 AM
A few things with this one.  First off, always loved it.  Great product recognition, plus I loved the flies.  I always wondered why this one was all black. It really stands out compared to almost all other Wacky's, just like Fearstone does for its uniqueness.  And even as a kid, i wondered why the tape was sticky on top, when the sticky part is underneath.

Also, just noticing now, What the heck happened to that middle fly!!!

Good point...I never though about that. Just goes to show how much they Botched the manufacturing of this product  ;)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 24, 2016, 02:29:18 AM
I like it Doctor!

I agree, "free antidote inside" is lame.      I guess it refers to an antidote "For the cereal that goes to your head"

Some ideas I thought of are

    "Contains complimentary grey matter"

    "Topps frontal lobe inside"

    "Therapy included"

    "For thinking outside of the box."

    "No pain, no gain"


OK, now I'm being ridiculous . . .


Or if done today, to stay topical, replace "Wheat Bran Cereal" with "Walking Dead Cereal".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 24, 2016, 04:14:33 AM
Shave and a Haircut...Two Bits

(https://s21.postimg.org/54phm4bk3/Awful_Bits.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/54phm4bk3/)

Another classic!  Fantastic gag, and I wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 24, 2016, 04:29:15 AM
Wacky Ads #35 - Fish Bone

Fish Bone
That's what it smells like
Russian Dressing


Real Product
Wish Bone
Russian Dressing
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on November 24, 2016, 06:26:50 AM
Ate a ton of this stuff when I was a kid so I always liked the parody. I never realized how poorly rendered the characters where on the Wacky Ad until comparing side by side. This one may be in the running for most improved Wacky from Ad to sticker.



(https://s13.postimg.org/xxpactner/alphabits_cereal.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xxpactner/)

I always wondered why the kids heads were so big in the Wacky version, but after seeing the real cereal box, I guess they did it directly as from the box.  Those kids have big old heads!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 24, 2016, 02:38:49 PM
Wacky Ads #35 - Fish Bone

Fish Bone
That's what it smells like
Russian Dressing


Real Product
Wish Bone
Russian Dressing


One Fish, Two Fish...
(https://s15.postimg.org/a873zjbif/Fish_Bone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a873zjbif/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 24, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
One Fish, Two Fish...
(https://s15.postimg.org/a873zjbif/Fish_Bone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a873zjbif/)

Another tough one to find a pic old enough to match the wacky. Sorry for the poor quality, had to pull from and old magazine ad online. I always liked this Wacky. Its the Russian character that does it for me.


(https://s21.postimg.org/i6fp8s6pf/fishbone3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i6fp8s6pf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 24, 2016, 06:01:06 PM
One Fish, Two Fish...
(https://s15.postimg.org/a873zjbif/Fish_Bone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a873zjbif/)

I like this gag a lot, and the changes made from the Ad artwork to OS2 are phenomenal in every way.  I especially like the bottle on the label in OS2.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 24, 2016, 09:58:46 PM
Another tough one to find a pic old enough to match the wacky. Sorry for the poor quality, had to pull from and old magazine ad online. I always liked this Wacky. Its the Russian character that does it for me.


(https://s21.postimg.org/i6fp8s6pf/fishbone3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i6fp8s6pf/)

Here's one that's a tiny bit closer...
(https://s14.postimg.org/op0xvjv71/Wish_Bone.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/op0xvjv71/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 25, 2016, 04:03:32 AM
Lost Wackys - LIPOFF AND JANITOR IN A SLUM

Lipoff Tea
The "RISKY" Tea
Removes lips, tongues, and teeth


Real Product
Lipton Tea
The "BRISK" Tea



Janitor in a Slum
He doesn't clean anything
not even himself!
Your floor will be no
CLEANER


Real Product
Janitor in a Drum
Industrial Strength
CLEANER


Both pretty good in my opinion.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 25, 2016, 05:25:38 AM
Lost Wackys - LIPOFF AND JANITOR IN A SLUM

Lipoff Tea
The "RISKY" Tea
Removes lips, tongues, and teeth


Real Product
Lipton Tea


There is an ad with the exact product, but it's too small for me to get the information on.

Janitor in a Slum
He doesn't clean anything
not even himself!
Your floor will be no
CLEANER


Real Product
Janitor in a Drum
Industrial Strength
CLEANER


Both pretty good in my opinion.

Here is an image I found for Janitor In A Drum...
(https://s21.postimg.org/sbnzf44cj/Janitor_In_A_Drum.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sbnzf44cj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 25, 2016, 11:41:46 AM
Lost Wackys - LIPOFF AND JANITOR IN A SLUM

Lipoff Tea
The "RISKY" Tea
Removes lips, tongues, and teeth


Real Product
Lipton Tea


There is an ad with the exact product, but it's too small for me to get the information on.

Janitor in a Slum
He doesn't clean anything
not even himself!
Your floor will be no
CLEANER


Real Product
Janitor in a Drum
Industrial Strength
CLEANER


Both pretty good in my opinion.




(https://s16.postimg.org/sj8ejj74x/lipoff1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sj8ejj74x/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/e1b7bjftt/lipoff3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/e1b7bjftt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 25, 2016, 02:42:56 PM
I'm realizing something...

44 DIE CUTS
36 WACKY ADS
8 SERIES 2 TITLES THAT WERE "NEW"

36+8=44

Maybe the 2nd series new titles were dropped from wacky ads and repainted for the 2nd series?
The world will never know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 25, 2016, 06:35:49 PM
For Series 2 review, should we skip over the titles that were already covered in Wacky Ads?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 26, 2016, 03:48:34 AM
For Series 2 review, should we skip over the titles that were already covered in Wacky Ads?

That's what I'm planning.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 26, 2016, 03:51:37 AM
1973 Series 2 - Sugarmess Gum

Gadzooka Sugarmess Bubble Gum
Guaranteed to put on weight
Net Wt. 1 Ton


Real Product
Bazooka Sugarless Bubble Gum
New improved flavor
Net Wt. 0.25 Oz.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 27, 2016, 04:15:18 AM
1973 Series 2 - Log Cave In

Log Cave In Syrup
It'll bring down the house


Real Product
Log Cabin Syrup


I really like this and the simplicity of the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 27, 2016, 04:56:51 AM
Jason Liebig found a perfect real product match on Sugarmess!

(https://s19.postimg.org/9jx9r5f6r/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 27, 2016, 05:09:01 AM
That is definitely the perfect match!  It isn't a bad gag, but it's so-so for me for Series 2.  Of course, the packaging didn't offer much opportunity. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 27, 2016, 06:47:40 AM
1973 Series 2 - Log Cave In

Log Cave In Syrup
It'll bring down the house


Real Product
Log Cabin Syrup


I really like this and the simplicity of the gag.


I was always fond of this wacky even though it's quite simple. The change from "cabin" to "cave-in" tickles my funny bone for some reason as well as the caved-in cabin "character" . Had to add a picture of the cool old cabin container below.


(https://s12.postimg.org/qmcnzk4xl/log2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qmcnzk4xl/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/p8l1495o9/log1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p8l1495o9/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/c6ea42ut9/cave3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c6ea42ut9/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 27, 2016, 07:42:16 AM
1973 Series 2 - Log Cave In
The first of the true 70's wacky, and a good one.
Dramatic increase in detail and realism compared to the simpler Ad refreshes and many of the die cards.
I think this is the last of the 2nd series for me to finally see, not until the late 90's if I remember right. Never saw it as a kid and it wasn't in the reprints either. It was always a mystery title on the checklist.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 27, 2016, 10:34:40 AM
1973 Series 2 - Log Cave In

Log Cave In Syrup
It'll bring down the house



I like this gag.  The caved in cabin on the label is perfect, and the pioneer inside the bottle cracks me up.  This is another product that I still call by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 28, 2016, 02:48:48 PM
1973 Series 2 - Gyppy Pop

Gyppy Pop Popcorn
No Flavor
Pops right in the package and all over the house


Real Product
Jiffy Pop Popcorn
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 28, 2016, 05:56:52 PM

I was always fond of this wacky even though it's quite simple. The change from "cabin" to "cave-in" tickles my funny bone for some reason as well as the caved-in cabin "character" . Had to add a picture of the cool old cabin container below.


(https://s12.postimg.org/qmcnzk4xl/log2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qmcnzk4xl/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/p8l1495o9/log1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p8l1495o9/)

(https://s22.postimg.org/c6ea42ut9/cave3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c6ea42ut9/)

The poster version is a knockout!

(https://s13.postimg.org/do2huki8j/logcvin.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/do2huki8j/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 28, 2016, 05:58:22 PM
1973 Series 2 - Gyppy Pop

Gyppy Pop Popcorn
No Flavor
Pops right in the package and all over the house


Real Product
Jiffy Pop Popcorn


Great gag! We could never get this one approved today!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 29, 2016, 02:11:12 AM
Great gag! We could never get this one approved today!

Agreed, Gyppy Pop is a great Wacky.  Why wouldn't you be able to get it approved today?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 29, 2016, 04:33:52 AM
1973 Series 2 - Gyppy Pop

Gyppy Pop Popcorn
No Flavor
Pops right in the package and all over the house


Real Product
Jiffy Pop Popcorn


The wacky and the real product...
(https://s22.postimg.org/kcltxk2kt/gyppy_white_frong_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kcltxk2kt/)
(https://s22.postimg.org/a09ywy87h/Jiffy_Pop.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a09ywy87h/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on November 29, 2016, 06:00:15 AM
The wacky and the real product...
(https://s22.postimg.org/kcltxk2kt/gyppy_white_frong_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kcltxk2kt/)
(https://s22.postimg.org/a09ywy87h/Jiffy_Pop.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a09ywy87h/)

Another one I really like. Another example where the product shape was altered to better fit a rectangular card.

This pic looks like a screen capture from a television commercial but mirrors the letter coloring found on the Wacky but not the background color...



(https://s17.postimg.org/b7ga61ccb/jiffy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b7ga61ccb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 29, 2016, 07:05:46 AM
Agreed, Gyppy Pop is a great Wacky.  Why wouldn't you be able to get it approved today?

For a couple of reasons: The title implies you're getting ripped off by the product and "No Flavor" is describing the food in a disparaging way. Both are no-no's nowadays.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 29, 2016, 12:04:12 PM
1973 Series 2 - Putrid Cat Chow

Garbage Flavor
Putrid Cat Chow
The HIGH SMELL cat food


Real Product
Original blend of fish, meat, and milk flavors
Purina Cat Chow
The HIGH PROTEIN cat food


LOVE this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 29, 2016, 01:53:17 PM
For a couple of reasons: The title implies you're getting ripped off by the product and "No Flavor" is describing the food in a disparaging way. Both are no-no's nowadays.

That's just ridiculous!  I guess titles like Cap'n Crud and Awful Bits would be rejected, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 29, 2016, 05:09:18 PM
1973 Series 2 - Putrid Cat Chow

another of the first true 70's wackys, and another brilliant one
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on November 29, 2016, 06:51:18 PM
another of the first true 70's wackys, and another brilliant one

Definitely a Top 10 original series title IMO!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on November 29, 2016, 09:34:03 PM
1973 Series 2 - Putrid Cat Chow

Garbage Flavor
Putrid Cat Chow
The HIGH SMELL cat food


Real Product
Original blend of fish, meat, and milk flavors
Purina Cat Chow
The HIGH PROTEIN cat food


LOVE this one.

Parody and real packaging...
(https://s15.postimg.org/x2ey2st13/putrid_white_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x2ey2st13/)
(https://s16.postimg.org/6w68qf0tt/Purina_Cat_Chow.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6w68qf0tt/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on November 30, 2016, 01:48:30 AM
Putrid is a truly fantastic Wacky! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 30, 2016, 02:12:22 PM
1973 Series 2 - 8 Lives

8-Lives Tuna Bones
Cat Food?
Uses up 8 of your cat's lives in one meal


Real Product
9-Lives
Savory Stew


I like to use the words on the original products that look closest to the wacky, and in this case the can was much more simpler than the wacky. I would personally fix one thing about this wacky, its placement on the sheet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 30, 2016, 05:57:27 PM
I would personally fix one thing about this wacky, its placement on the sheet.

What's wrong with the sheet placement? 😄😀

(https://s19.postimg.org/6pn6hlmeb/8livestan.jpg)

(https://s19.postimg.org/o9wr46iw3/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 30, 2016, 07:18:51 PM
What's wrong with the sheet placement? 😄😀
those are some really messed up OC's
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on November 30, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
those are some really messed up OC's

Lol, there's something fascinating about a card being butchered and turning out near perfect.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 01, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
1973 Series 2 - Brittle

Brittle Soap Pads
Removes grease, grime, and skin
Makes your hands TOUGH


Real Product
Brillo Steel Soap Pads
The TOUGH pad
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 02, 2016, 08:34:45 AM
1973 Series 2 - 8 Lives

8-Lives Tuna Bones
Cat Food?
Uses up 8 of your cat's lives in one meal


Real Product
9-Lives
Savory Stew


I like to use the words on the original products that look closest to the wacky, and in this case the can was much more simpler than the wacky. I would personally fix one thing about this wacky, its placement on the sheet.

Nobody has a photo of a vintage 9-Lives cat food can? This is the best I have from a YouTube video...

(https://s4.postimg.org/4xs80sq4p/9_Lives.png) (https://postimg.org/image/4xs80sq4p/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 02, 2016, 08:36:38 AM
1973 Series 2 - Brittle

Brittle Soap Pads
Removes grease, grime, and skin
Makes your hands TOUGH


Real Product
Brillo Steel Soap Pads
The TOUGH pad


Brittle...I mean...Brillo real product photo...

(https://s16.postimg.org/mkignfwo1/Brillo2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mkignfwo1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 02, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
1973 Series 2 - Dull

Dull
Sliced Pineapple
For a boring dessert or snack


Real Product
Dole
Sliced Pineapple ?


Can't find packaging. I like this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 02, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
1973 Series 2 - Dull

Dull
Sliced Pineapple
For a boring dessert or snack


Real Product
Dole
Sliced Pineapple ?


Can't find packaging. I like this one.

Here ya go!

(https://s17.postimg.org/d5vurp6yz/dull_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d5vurp6yz/)
(https://s18.postimg.org/t8khfnwit/Dole_Pineapple.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t8khfnwit/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 02, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
Thanks Swiski!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 02, 2016, 07:34:39 PM

I was always fond of this wacky even though it's quite simple. The change from "cabin" to "cave-in" tickles my funny bone for some reason as well as the caved-in cabin "character" . Had to add a picture of the cool old cabin container below.


(https://s12.postimg.org/qmcnzk4xl/log2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qmcnzk4xl/)


That original bottle pic is just like the poster version that everyone hated!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 02, 2016, 07:37:28 PM
1973 Series 2 - 8 Lives

8-Lives Tuna Bones
Cat Food?
Uses up 8 of your cat's lives in one meal


Real Product
9-Lives
Savory Stew


I think by far the best part of the gag on this one is the simple addition of a question mark.  Brilliant!


I like to use the words on the original products that look closest to the wacky, and in this case the can was much more simpler than the wacky. I would personally fix one thing about this wacky, its placement on the sheet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 04, 2016, 05:11:41 AM
I forgot to do this yesterday...  :sad:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 04, 2016, 05:14:27 AM
1973 Series 2 - Run Tony

Run Tony
Rubout Protection
SHELLS (.38 cal.)
Preferred by leading gangsters in the underworld


Real Product
Ronzoni
SHELLS


I personally enjoy this one, but I guess Ronzoni didn't.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 04, 2016, 05:34:42 AM
1973 Series 2 - Run Tony

Run Tony
Rubout Protection
SHELLS (.38 cal.)
Preferred by leading gangsters in the underworld


Real Product
Ronzoni
SHELLS


I personally enjoy this one, but I guess Ronzoni didn't.

Anyone have a better box image than this?
(https://s15.postimg.org/4qnse9wwn/Ronzoni1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4qnse9wwn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 05, 2016, 12:12:29 PM
1973 Series 3 - Harm and Hammer

Harm & Hammer Baking Soda
Sweetens your smells!
Great for refrigerators, bathrooms, and locker rooms


Real Product
Arm & Hammer Baking Soda
Bicarbonate of soda
See other uses on back


A start of a great series.. Series 3!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on December 05, 2016, 04:57:56 PM
Love Dull, 8-Lives, Putrid and Log Cave-in. Top notch. Favorites as a kid and I think they still hold up.

1973 Series 2 - Dull

Dull
Sliced Pineapple
For a boring dessert or snack


Real Product
Dole
Sliced Pineapple ?


Can't find packaging. I like this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on December 05, 2016, 05:06:25 PM
This is the only card I have a vivid memory of opening a pack and finding. I'd been searching for Run Tony for so long, I just about gave up. I was piling up doubles, triples, quadruples, quintuples, etc., but couldn't complete the series.

One day I bought a couple packs, but really had no hope. And there it was! I was standing on the street corner near the store. I probably threw the wrapper in the ground, as was the custom in those days.

The pun seemed like a stretch, but a clever stretch. And my memory will always be a happy one with this title.


1973 Series 2 - Run Tony

Run Tony
Rubout Protection
SHELLS (.38 cal.)
Preferred by leading gangsters in the underworld


Real Product
Ronzoni
SHELLS


I personally enjoy this one, but I guess Ronzoni didn't.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 06, 2016, 04:55:26 AM
1973 Series 3 - Harm and Hammer

Harm & Hammer Baking Soda
Sweetens your smells!
Great for refrigerators, bathrooms, and locker rooms


Real Product
Arm & Hammer Baking Soda
Bicarbonate of soda
See other uses on back


A start of a great series.. Series 3!

This logo on the packaging hasn't changed all that much...

(https://s18.postimg.org/4wfsvg56t/Arm_Hammer.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4wfsvg56t/) (https://s12.postimg.org/qmpn6mgnd/6507301f_ba00_4a96_8f2d_c4c23348227c_1_7ffffbe7e.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qmpn6mgnd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 06, 2016, 12:06:38 PM
1973 Series 3 - Neveready

Neveready to throw away
Zero Lives
Assaulted Battery
Keeps you IN THE DARK


Real Product
Eveready trade mark
Nine Lives
Flashlight Battery
Union Carbide ?


Another great one! I see a trend here.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 06, 2016, 07:22:14 PM
1973 Series 3 - Neveready

Neveready to throw away
Zero Lives
Assaulted Battery
Keeps you IN THE DARK


Real Product
Eveready trade mark
Nine Lives
Flashlight Battery
Union Carbide ?


Another great one! I see a trend here.

Vintage battery image...
(https://s12.postimg.org/4ao7pyaah/Eveready1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ao7pyaah/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Choke_Wagon on December 06, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
Eveready always had an iconic logo. Always happy they have kept the jumping cat through the 9
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 07, 2016, 12:11:13 PM
1973 Series 3 - Crakola

Crakola Crayons
Broken bland colors
Made from bee's wax
160 Crumbled Pieces


Real Product
Crayola Crayons
Different Brilliant Colors
Binney & Smith
16


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 08, 2016, 12:05:46 PM
1973 Series 3 - BustedFinger

Hurtus
Bustedfinger
Broken Candy


Real Product
Curtus
Butterfinger
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 09, 2016, 11:48:32 AM
1973 Series 3 - Crakola

Crakola Crayons
Broken bland colors
Made from bee's wax
160 Crumbled Pieces


Real Product
Crayola Crayons
Different Brilliant Colors
Binney & Smith
16


A colorful Wacky. One of my faves. Simple but very memorable gag. Who didn't use these as kids?



(https://s28.postimg.org/xrqac89nd/crakola1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xrqac89nd/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/3obrka6e1/crakola3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3obrka6e1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 09, 2016, 11:54:54 AM
1973 Series 3 - BustedFinger

Hurtus
Bustedfinger
Broken Candy


Real Product
Curtus
Butterfinger


Another great one, IMO. The real product, in comparison, before it was Nestle. My only gripe on this one is since the product is a finger, wouldn't the tag line "broken handy" be better than "broken candy".


(https://s27.postimg.org/rcpikv17z/bustedfinger1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rcpikv17z/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/kniz4ufvz/bustedfinger3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kniz4ufvz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 09, 2016, 12:14:03 PM
1973 Series 3 - Spit & Spill

Mess your house up with
Spit and Spill
The "BIG GLOB" cleaner


Real Product
Pine Fresh
Spic and Span
The BIG JOB cleaner
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 09, 2016, 12:24:52 PM
1973 Series 3 - Spit & Spill

Mess your house up with
Spit and Spill
The "BIG GLOB" cleaner


Real Product
Pine Fresh
Spic and Span
The BIG JOB cleaner

Is this the right packaging design?
(https://s23.postimg.org/v1x2qozc7/Spic_and_Span.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v1x2qozc7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 09, 2016, 01:58:40 PM
Is this the right packaging design?
(https://s23.postimg.org/v1x2qozc7/Spic_and_Span.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v1x2qozc7/)

Looks like it to me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 10, 2016, 06:15:01 PM
Sorry I didn't get to this today, I had a wedding to attend. I'd rather get some sleep, so I'll get to it tomorrow. Sorry!  :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2016, 03:52:00 AM
Sorry I didn't get to this today, I had a wedding to attend. I'd rather get some sleep, so I'll get to it tomorrow. Sorry!  :great:

No worries!  I've been having a hard time keeping up with the pace, and day off would help  :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2016, 04:22:45 AM
A colorful Wacky. One of my faves. Simple but very memorable gag. Who didn't use these as kids?



(https://s28.postimg.org/xrqac89nd/crakola1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xrqac89nd/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/3obrka6e1/crakola3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3obrka6e1/)

I loved Crakola as a kid, and used to put extra copies of the sticker on my crayon boxes and cans.  I still think it's a great gag, and a great looking Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2016, 04:29:49 AM
Another great one, IMO. The real product, in comparison, before it was Nestle. My only gripe on this one is since the product is a finger, wouldn't the tag line "broken handy" be better than "broken candy".


(https://s27.postimg.org/rcpikv17z/bustedfinger1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rcpikv17z/)

(https://s27.postimg.org/kniz4ufvz/bustedfinger3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kniz4ufvz/)

Gotta love that finger!  Great overall gag.  I never thought about the possibility of "broken handy" but I suppose it could work.  Maybe "broken handy candy"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2016, 04:39:18 AM
Is this the right packaging design?
(https://s23.postimg.org/v1x2qozc7/Spic_and_Span.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v1x2qozc7/)

I think Spit and Spill is a decent gag.  I really like the way they replaced the mop with the spit and the house!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 11, 2016, 04:41:13 AM
1973 Series 3 - Koduck

Koduck
Film for ducks
A fowl picture every time
Koduckcolor
"Watch the birdie"


Real Product
Kodak
Kodacolor
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 11, 2016, 07:04:52 AM
1973 Series 3 - Koduck

Koduck
Film for ducks
A fowl picture every time
Koduckcolor
"Watch the birdie"


Real Product
Kodak
Kodacolor


What can you say about this iconic Wacky that already hasn't been said? Perhaps the world's first duck face selfie pic. I am sure there is a better match available (as well as a better quality) out there somewhere, but I couldn't find it in short order.


(https://s24.postimg.org/wmm5tw5pt/koduck1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wmm5tw5pt/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/yfp2i7qwh/koduck3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yfp2i7qwh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 11, 2016, 07:48:12 AM
What can you say about this iconic Wacky that already hasn't been said? Perhaps the world's first duck face selfie pic. I am sure there is a better match available (as well as a better quality) out there somewhere, but I couldn't find it in short order.


(https://s24.postimg.org/wmm5tw5pt/koduck1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wmm5tw5pt/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/yfp2i7qwh/koduck3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yfp2i7qwh/)

Great gag, wonderful duck, I wouldn't change a thing!  Film for ducks - so silly I still laugh at it   :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 11, 2016, 04:45:16 PM
What can you say about this iconic Wacky that already hasn't been said? Perhaps the world's first duck face selfie pic. I am sure there is a better match available (as well as a better quality) out there somewhere, but I couldn't find it in short order.


(https://s24.postimg.org/wmm5tw5pt/koduck1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wmm5tw5pt/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/yfp2i7qwh/koduck3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yfp2i7qwh/)

Thanks Scoot! Here's another photo of a similar Kodak film box...
(https://s23.postimg.org/u3rp3ao7r/Kodacolor1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u3rp3ao7r/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 12, 2016, 12:04:58 PM
1973 Series 3 - Moonshine Crackers

Moonshine
Wheez - It
Whisky Flavored Crackers
Eat Yourself Drunk!


Real Product
Sunshine
Cheez - It
A Tasty Cheese Cracker
Good... Any old time!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 12, 2016, 02:45:33 PM
1973 Series 3 - Moonshine Crackers

Moonshine
Wheez - It
Whisky Flavored Crackers
Eat Yourself Drunk!


Real Product
Sunshine
Cheez - It
A Tasty Cheese Cracker
? What is the line ?


"Good Any Old Time?"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 12, 2016, 02:58:36 PM
1973 Series 3 - Moonshine Crackers

Moonshine
Wheez - It
Whisky Flavored Crackers
Eat Yourself Drunk!


Real Product
Sunshine
Cheez - It
A Tasty Cheese Cracker
? What is the line ?


Anyone have a better photo than this?
(https://s23.postimg.org/dnas8s7c7/Cheez_It1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dnas8s7c7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on December 12, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
What can you say about this iconic Wacky that already hasn't been said? Perhaps the world's first duck face selfie pic. I am sure there is a better match available (as well as a better quality) out there somewhere, but I couldn't find it in short order.


(https://s24.postimg.org/wmm5tw5pt/koduck1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wmm5tw5pt/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/yfp2i7qwh/koduck3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yfp2i7qwh/)

We need more ducks in our wackys!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 13, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
1973 Series 3 - Snatch - A - Pak

Snatch * A * Pak
6 Fattening Servings
(All Brand Names are Kooloff's)
Frosty Snow Flakes
Coo-Coo Krusties chocolate flavor
Apple Jerks


Real Product
Snack * Pack
6 Servings
(All Brand Names are Kellogg's)
Sugar Frosted Flakes
Cocoa Krispies chocolate flavor
Apple Jacks


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on December 13, 2016, 02:53:21 PM
I think Spit and Spill is a decent gag.  I really like the way they replaced the mop with the spit and the house!

Yes, that was really clever. I also like how this "gross out" gag is way more funny than gross.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 13, 2016, 10:40:25 PM
1973 Series 3 - Snatch - A - Pak

Snatch * A * Pak
6 Fattening Servings
(All Brand Names are Kooloff's)
Frosty Snow Flakes
Coo-Coo Krusties chocolate flavor
Apple Jerks


Real Product
Snack * Pack
6 Servings
(All Brand Names are Kellogg's)
Sugar Frosted Flakes
Cocoa Krispies chocolate flavor
Apple Jacks


Here's photos of the actual product outer wrapper and cereal boxes!

(https://s24.postimg.org/6rmjubb69/Snack_Pak1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6rmjubb69/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/x17md3x3l/Snack_Pak2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x17md3x3l/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/403a3pcnl/Snack_Pak3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/403a3pcnl/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/41d7x4ehd/Snack_Pak4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41d7x4ehd/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/ywueo9lxt/Snack_Pak5.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ywueo9lxt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 14, 2016, 03:44:50 AM
 >:D
1973 Series 3 - Snatch - A - Pak

Snatch * A * Pak
6 Fattening Servings
(All Brand Names are Kooloff's)
Frosty Snow Flakes
Coo-Coo Krusties chocolate flavor
Apple Jerks


Real Product
Snack * Pack
6 Servings
(All Brand Names are Kellogg's)
Sugar Frosted Flakes
Cocoa Krispies chocolate flavor
Apple Jacks


I never did get the main gag of "Snatch a Pak" but I always liked this one anyway because of Apple Jerks.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 14, 2016, 10:51:57 AM
Here's photos of the actual product outer wrapper and cereal boxes!

(https://s24.postimg.org/6rmjubb69/Snack_Pak1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6rmjubb69/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/x17md3x3l/Snack_Pak2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x17md3x3l/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/403a3pcnl/Snack_Pak3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/403a3pcnl/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/41d7x4ehd/Snack_Pak4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41d7x4ehd/)

(https://s24.postimg.org/ywueo9lxt/Snack_Pak5.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ywueo9lxt/)

Just adding the Wacky Sticker for comparison. This topic will actually be a pretty nice history for showing WPs versus real products:


(https://s23.postimg.org/rc1dookjb/snatch1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rc1dookjb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 14, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
>:D
I never did get the main gag of "Snatch a Pak" but I always liked this one anyway because of Apple Jerks.

Agreed... the "Snatch a Pak" isn't much of a parody. I guess the beauty lies in the individual cereal names.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 14, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
1973 Series 3 - Raw Leaves

Raw Leaves
Class Z Cigarettes
Not for smoking
Raw Leaves leaves your throat raw


Real Product
Raleigh
20 Class Cigarettes
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 14, 2016, 02:33:59 PM
>:D
I never did get the main gag of "Snatch a Pak" but I always liked this one anyway because of Apple Jerks.

I also always really liked this one because of the individual cereal boxes, but never really did buy into "Kooloff's" very much
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 14, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
1973 Series 3 - Raw Leaves

Raw Leaves
Class Z Cigarettes
Not for smoking
Raw Leaves leaves your throat raw


Real Product
Raleigh
20 Class Cigarettes


Raleigh cigarettes packaging and Raw Leaves parody...

(https://s27.postimg.org/gt3h1v39r/Raleigh1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gt3h1v39r/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/qliys0u77/rawleaves_tan_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qliys0u77/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 15, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
1973 Series 3 - Fright Guard

Killette
Fright Guard
Deodorant
The deodorant that will scare off your enemies (and friends)


Real Product
Gillette
Right Guard
Anti-perspirant
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 17, 2016, 05:47:36 AM
1973 Series 3 - Fright Guard

Killette
Fright Guard
Deodorant
The deodorant that will scare off your enemies (and friends)


Real Product
Gillette
Right Guard
Anti-perspirant


(https://s30.postimg.org/j2t3xgv4t/Right_Guard2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j2t3xgv4t/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/6c5rkmetv/wb1_frightguard_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6c5rkmetv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 17, 2016, 06:30:12 AM
...and Fright Guard's sister product....

(https://s19.postimg.org/lstts09wj/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 17, 2016, 06:31:07 AM
(https://s30.postimg.org/j2t3xgv4t/Right_Guard2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j2t3xgv4t/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/6c5rkmetv/wb1_frightguard_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6c5rkmetv/)

Not a bad gag I suppose, and they certainly had very dull looking packaging to work with.  I've always liked that the cap is off, as it allows nice detail and the stink cloud.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 17, 2016, 10:03:43 AM
Dr. Ono

Dr. Ono
Crackpot Brain Opener
Causes clots * Tough on nerves
Keep children out of his reach! More dangerous than poison


Real Product
Drano
Drain Pipe Cleaner
Keep out of reach of children
DANGER  :bluegrab: POISON
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Ruffs on December 17, 2016, 10:57:18 AM
...and Fright Guard's sister product....

(https://s19.postimg.org/lstts09wj/image.jpg)
Good Old Pete
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 17, 2016, 11:10:10 AM
Dr. Ono

so many great Wackys in Series 3. The first full set of the 70's.

one of my all time favorites for sure.

as someone else pointed out long ago, it looks like the good Dr. is holding a syringe possibly, and that it got painted over by the skull and crossbones. Keeping 'dangerous' artwork out of the reach of children?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 17, 2016, 11:56:19 AM

           (http://www.lostwackys.com/images/old-school/sketch-drono-color-0123.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on December 17, 2016, 01:25:07 PM
Agreed... the "Snatch a Pak" isn't much of a parody. I guess the beauty lies in the individual cereal names.
If you look at the Master Spreadsheet and at lostwackys.com(click on the '73-'77 Original Series section and then on Snatch-A-Pak in the 3rd Series section) you'll see that this Wacky was originally going to be called Snack Pig (there's a picture of the rough art for it on there).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 17, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
Dr. Ono

Dr. Ono
Crackpot Brain Opener
Causes clots * Tough on nerves
Keep children out of his reach! More dangerous than poison


Real Product
Drano
Drain Pipe Cleaner
Keep out of reach of children
DANGER  :bluegrab: POISON


(https://s29.postimg.org/9xhjhut6b/Drano.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9xhjhut6b/)
(https://s28.postimg.org/86x6htjm1/doctorono.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/86x6htjm1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 17, 2016, 03:56:31 PM
(https://s29.postimg.org/9xhjhut6b/Drano.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9xhjhut6b/)
(https://s28.postimg.org/86x6htjm1/doctorono.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/86x6htjm1/)

I really like the title gag, as well as the extra lines, and the crazy doctor is fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on December 17, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
Drano to Dr. Ono. Maybe the most successful big stretch of any gag! And as a kid, you couldn't not like Brain Opener. The art, the taglines, everything is A+.


(https://s29.postimg.org/9xhjhut6b/Drano.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9xhjhut6b/)
(https://s28.postimg.org/86x6htjm1/doctorono.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/86x6htjm1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 18, 2016, 06:43:24 AM
(https://s29.postimg.org/9xhjhut6b/Drano.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9xhjhut6b/)
(https://s28.postimg.org/86x6htjm1/doctorono.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/86x6htjm1/)

I always thought the actual product marketing to be strange... to go with the spelling they chose and then to use the diacritical mark (long vowel symbol) so we know how to pronounce it. Why not just go with "Draino" or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 18, 2016, 12:29:27 PM
1973 Series 3 - Rice a Phoni

Moan & Groan
Rice A Phoni
Chokin' Flavor
LASTS FOREVER it can be used over and over again!



Real Product
Golden Grain
Rice a Roni
Chicken Flavor
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on December 18, 2016, 01:59:53 PM
I always thought the actual product marketing to be strange... to go with the spelling they chose and then to use the diacritical mark (long vowel symbol) so we know how to pronounce it. Why not just go with "Draino" or am I missing something?
IIRC, the original name for this one was going to be Braino, which was finally used on the ANS6 sticker (only this time it was a different product, Drano Clog Remover (spoofed as Braino Clod Remover).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 19, 2016, 04:37:11 AM
1973 Series 3 - Rice a Phoni

Moan & Groan
Rice A Phoni
Chokin' Flavor
LASTS FOREVER it can be used over and over again!



Real Product
Golden Grain
Rice a Roni
Chicken Flavor


(https://s27.postimg.org/ut03uet0v/Rice_A_Roni1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ut03uet0v/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/jbetyslyb/p1600_RICEAPHONI.png) (https://postimg.org/image/jbetyslyb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 19, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
1973 Series 3 - Sledge

Jerkson Sledge
Instantly rids you of dust grime & furniture


Real Product
Johnson Pledge


Another grammatical error on a wacky, (Dust, Grime, and furniture)  :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on December 19, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
Another grammatical error on a wacky
What's the grammatical error?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 19, 2016, 04:00:24 PM
What's the grammatical error?

The missing commas.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on December 19, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
The missing commas.

It could just be missing one comma - the serial or oxford comma is considered optional by some, or so my wife the editor tells me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 20, 2016, 05:29:39 AM
1973 Series 3 - Sledge

Jerkson Sledge
Instantly rids you of dust grime & furniture


Real Product
Johnson Pledge


Another grammatical error on a wacky, (Dust, Grime, and furniture)  :]

(https://s27.postimg.org/udos7tij3/Pledge2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/udos7tij3/)
(https://s23.postimg.org/r5zlkkgmf/sledge.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r5zlkkgmf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 20, 2016, 02:15:13 PM
1973 Series 3 - No - Tips

No Tips
Swabs for globs
The wiggly swab
No Tips come without cushioned ends
No-Tips give no-refunds


Real Product
Q-Tips
Cotton Swabs
Flexible Sticks
Safety cushioned ends
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on December 20, 2016, 03:04:53 PM
The missing commas.
I just wouldn't consider this grammatical; to me, it's a punctuation error, though I guess some lump them into grammatical. And I believe it's only missing one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 20, 2016, 06:49:18 PM
1973 Series 3 - No - Tips

No Tips
Swabs for globs
The wiggly swab
No Tips come without cushioned ends
No-Tips give no-refunds


Real Product
Q-Tips
Cotton Swabs
Flexible Sticks
Safety cushioned ends


(https://s29.postimg.org/p3pugly6b/Q_Tips1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p3pugly6b/)
(https://s23.postimg.org/mnssq6akn/notips.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mnssq6akn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 21, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
(https://s27.postimg.org/udos7tij3/Pledge2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/udos7tij3/)
(https://s23.postimg.org/r5zlkkgmf/sledge.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r5zlkkgmf/)

Another one where they didn't have much to work with.  Good gag and tagline, and I really like the angry housewife.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on December 21, 2016, 02:35:01 AM
(https://s29.postimg.org/p3pugly6b/Q_Tips1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/p3pugly6b/)
(https://s23.postimg.org/mnssq6akn/notips.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mnssq6akn/)

A decent gag, but it seems like they could have done more with the taglines.  I remember liking it as a kid because it really matched the real product.  I used to stick doubles on the Q-Tip box in the bathroom.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 21, 2016, 01:42:03 PM
1973 Series 3 - Beanball

Stupid
Beanball
All cards the same
Cardboard bubble gum

Real Product
Topps
Baseball
with 1 STICK bubble gum
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 21, 2016, 02:00:10 PM
Real product wise, 1973 is one of the only years for which several different unopened pack images were used. Same thing for football packs that year.

(https://s24.postimg.org/6281azi05/IMG_0781.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 21, 2016, 11:45:39 PM

          (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/beanball_zpspcrtbiyi.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 22, 2016, 03:05:05 AM
Oops, I missed the red triangle....

(https://s19.postimg.org/cp522f40z/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on December 22, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
The missing commas.
There are no periods at the end of any sentences either.  Commas would clutter it up.  How many wacky's have commas?  Probably good trivia question.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 22, 2016, 04:51:48 PM
It could just be missing one comma - the serial or oxford comma is considered optional by some, or so my wife the editor tells me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

I didn't know about this. Glad to realize I'm not too old to learn something!

When I write, I use the Oxford comma. Religiously.   Not that it's the right way . . .

. . . . How many wacky's have commas?  Probably good trivia question.

I'm tallying this up and will get back to you in a few days

                 (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/playdumb_small_smaller_images_zpsbbv3q3oy.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on December 22, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Lots of commas in Commie! It's Comma-ie!


(https://s19.postimg.org/j71qr5ijn/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on December 22, 2016, 05:42:14 PM
I didn't know about this. Glad to realize I'm not too old to learn something!

When I write, I use the Oxford comma. Religiously.   Not that it's the right way . . .


I know what you meant about being glad to learn something at our advance age, I just learned about the Oxford comma myself in the last few years - and was quite happy to recall its name! I had always used it before I found out some consider it optional, and now I often omit it - probably due to laziness.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on December 22, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
I know what you meant about being glad to learn something at our advance age, I just learned about the Oxford comma myself in the last few years - and was quite happy to recall its name! I had always used it before I found out some consider it optional, and now I often omit it - probably due to laziness.

Some examples where the Oxford comma SHOULD have been used...

“I’d like to thank my parents, Jesus and Oprah Winfrey.” (Besides suggesting that a child was born to Jesus and Oprah, the lack of a serial comma also implies that Jesus’s last name is Winfrey.)

“A notorious gambler, Charlie Sheen owed money to his ex-wives, Billy Bob Thornton and Hugh Grant.”

“This award is dedicated to my good friends, Young Jeezy and God.”

“…highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector.” (Note: this is a real example from The Times of London.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 23, 2016, 05:32:43 AM
Looks like a fun discussion.. I'm going to skip a couple of days because of the holidays if that's okay...

Thanks, and everyone have a merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on December 23, 2016, 11:05:36 AM
Looks like a fun discussion.. I'm going to skip a couple of days because of the holidays if that's okay...

Thanks, and everyone have a merry Christmas.

You too! I will dig for more real product photos during my holiday break. Wish I could find some better images than the ones I own.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on December 23, 2016, 04:33:15 PM
Some examples where the Oxford comma SHOULD have been used...

“I’d like to thank my parents, Jesus and Oprah Winfrey.” (Besides suggesting that a child was born to Jesus and Oprah, the lack of a serial comma also implies that Jesus’s last name is Winfrey.)

“A notorious gambler, Charlie Sheen owed money to his ex-wives, Billy Bob Thornton and Hugh Grant.”

“This award is dedicated to my good friends, Young Jeezy and God.”

“…highlights of his global tour include encounters with Nelson Mandela, an 800-year-old demigod and a dildo collector.” (Note: this is a real example from The Times of London.)

Great examples! I'll try to refrain from being so lazy as to imply that Nelson Mandela was a dildo collector, even though I have no evidence he wasn't.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 05, 2017, 04:53:16 AM
Looks like Poor Foolball is the next Series 3 parody to critique...

(https://s24.postimg.org/rv9m7mo5t/Football_cards.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rv9m7mo5t/)
(https://s27.postimg.org/6ggtdbr8f/foolball.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ggtdbr8f/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 05, 2017, 05:26:09 AM
Looks like Poor Foolball is the next Series 3 parody to critique...

(https://s24.postimg.org/rv9m7mo5t/Football_cards.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rv9m7mo5t/)
(https://s27.postimg.org/6ggtdbr8f/foolball.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6ggtdbr8f/)

They certainly did a good job recreating the packaging.  The main gag is OK, and I really like the "hard as a brick" bubble gum.  I wonder if they could have fit "so many" before the "you'll never collect 'em all."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 05, 2017, 06:03:06 AM
The question is, why did they change the tag line to the less funny "with gubble bum" for the 1982 album series?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Lavirus on January 05, 2017, 09:18:16 PM
Wow! I never understood why they used the word "Poor" until now! Mystery solved 40+ years later.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 06, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
How would you like a nice Hawaiian Punch? Sure! Powwwww!!!!

(https://s28.postimg.org/8l78p8jg9/hawaiianpunks_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8l78p8jg9/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/rijz883hv/Hawaiian_Punch1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rijz883hv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 06, 2017, 07:55:37 AM
How would you like a nice Hawaiian Punch? Sure! Powwwww!!!!

(https://s28.postimg.org/8l78p8jg9/hawaiianpunks_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8l78p8jg9/)
(https://s29.postimg.org/rijz883hv/Hawaiian_Punch1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rijz883hv/)

Bloody nose red, that always makes me crack up  :]   A true classic! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 09, 2017, 04:39:13 AM
Next is Lucky Stride...

(https://s28.postimg.org/4qes8y3xl/luckystride_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4qes8y3xl/)(https://s30.postimg.org/67asc9bt9/Lucky_Strike1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/67asc9bt9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 09, 2017, 08:12:33 AM
Next is Lucky Stride...

(https://s28.postimg.org/4qes8y3xl/luckystride_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4qes8y3xl/)(https://s30.postimg.org/67asc9bt9/Lucky_Strike1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/67asc9bt9/)

This is another one where I appreciated how they nailed the packaging.  The main gag is OK, but what always made me laugh was the tagline on the side about smoking Wacky Packages!  Is this the only Wacky to specifically use the name Wacky Packages in the art?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on January 09, 2017, 11:39:58 AM
Next is Lucky Stride...

(https://s28.postimg.org/4qes8y3xl/luckystride_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4qes8y3xl/)(https://s30.postimg.org/67asc9bt9/Lucky_Strike1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/67asc9bt9/)

I am glad you had the actual product image that included the bottom. I would never have known where the "D.A./N.G.E.R." came from. So as a non-smoker, what does "L.S./M.F.T." stand for?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 09, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 09, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco.

There was an Archie story in which the gang were quoting advertising slogans for fun, and Reggie whispered "L.S.M.F.T" to Midge. Then Jughead told Moose it stood for "Let's smooch, my fine tomato."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 09, 2017, 10:14:07 PM
You're Hired!

(https://s24.postimg.org/fkkdg1u29/Hires2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fkkdg1u29/)(https://s24.postimg.org/jv3mpdoj5/Hires4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jv3mpdoj5/)(https://s30.postimg.org/5ys1nh625/hired_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ys1nh625/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 10, 2017, 04:25:35 AM
You're Hired!

(https://s24.postimg.org/fkkdg1u29/Hires2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fkkdg1u29/)(https://s24.postimg.org/jv3mpdoj5/Hires4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jv3mpdoj5/)(https://s30.postimg.org/5ys1nh625/hired_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ys1nh625/)

I never did get this gag.  Maybe "Fires" would have been better, with something like "shake it up, aim and pop the top."  Another step forward (Wonky Packages, anyone?) could be "Fired" because you shoot it at your boss.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on January 10, 2017, 04:58:17 AM
Maybe "Fires" would have been better, with something like "shake it up, aim and pop the top."  Another step forward (Wonky Packages, anyone?) could be "Fired" because you shoot it at your boss.

Good one Pat! You're "Hired"! Seriously, "Fires" is great! Just one suggestion: Consider changing it to "Fired" for the Wonky Package ;) ...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 10, 2017, 05:20:11 AM
Yeah, anything would have been funnier than Hired. How about: Tires - root beer that tastes like your car!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 10, 2017, 06:43:10 AM
Yeah, anything would have been funnier than Hired. How about: Tires - root beer that tastes like your car!

I like that better than Hires.  What taglines would you suggest?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 10, 2017, 07:46:41 AM
I like that better than Hires.  What taglines would you suggest?

How about: Tires Soot Beer - The Taste of the Road!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 10, 2017, 07:59:37 AM
Liar's Root Beer

Favorite of Fibbers

Your nose grows as the Liars flows!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 10, 2017, 12:13:24 PM
Expired Root Beer

Leaves you dead on a rival
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on January 10, 2017, 01:40:34 PM
Maybe I was (and am) a bit slow, but as a kid, I liked it when the title hewed closely to the original so there was little doubt what product was being parodied.

So I liked the title Hired, but it certainly didn't fit with the tag lines. Maybe those should have been changed to something like "It's hard work to finish" and/or "Tastes like blood sweat and tears".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 10, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
Maybe I was (and am) a bit slow, but as a kid, I liked it when the title hewed closely to the original so there was little doubt what product was being parodied.

So I liked the title Hired, but it certainly didn't fit with the tag lines. Maybe those should have been changed to something like "It's hard work to finish" and/or "Tastes like blood sweat and tears".

Yeah, could be because I was only 6 but I really didn't care much about the titles/gags. I cared about the image.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on January 10, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Yeah, could be because I was only 6 but I really didn't care much about the titles/gags. I cared about the image.

I agree, even with comics of the same period...it was all about the pictures. Actually reading anything did not come until a few years later.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on January 10, 2017, 03:11:25 PM
Liar's Root Beer

Favorite of Fibbers

Your nose grows as the Liars flows!
Yours is great!  Hires is an awful gag!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on January 10, 2017, 03:51:13 PM
Maybe I was (and am) a bit slow, but as a kid, I liked it when the title hewed closely to the original so there was little doubt what product was being parodied.

So I liked the title Hired, but it certainly didn't fit with the tag lines. Maybe those should have been changed to something like "It's hard work to finish" and/or "Tastes like blood sweat and tears".

Hired Root Beer - because they'd have to pay you to drink it. Size - 40 hours. Leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.

Sorry, I'm done.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 10, 2017, 04:03:23 PM
Hired Root Beer - because they'd have to pay you to drink it. Size - 40 hours. Leaves a bitter taste in your mouth.

Sorry, I'm done.

You quit?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on January 10, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
You quit?

Just with attempts at alternatives to the Hired gag, you guys are stuck with me!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 10, 2017, 06:13:04 PM
Hungry Jerk with the best Hungry Jack box image I could find...

(https://s24.postimg.org/r6m8wuzm9/hungryjerk_3rd_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r6m8wuzm9/)(https://s24.postimg.org/732eavosh/Hungry_Jack1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/732eavosh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on January 11, 2017, 03:17:43 PM
You quit?
No, he ret-hired.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on January 11, 2017, 04:26:22 PM
No, he ret-hired.

Nice! I'm embarrassed that I missed RawGoo's clever wordplay yesterday, so thanks for picking up the slack!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2017, 12:25:04 AM
Hungry Jerk with the best Hungry Jack box image I could find...

(https://s24.postimg.org/r6m8wuzm9/hungryjerk_3rd_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r6m8wuzm9/)(https://s24.postimg.org/732eavosh/Hungry_Jack1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/732eavosh/)

Another classic!  And, I like that Hungry Jack image because it includes part of the other Hungry Jerk product.   
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2017, 04:37:37 AM
You will need the Heimlich Manuever for some Choke King...

(https://s27.postimg.org/k5hrk2trj/chokeking_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k5hrk2trj/) (https://s23.postimg.org/xblfgvsqf/Chun_King1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xblfgvsqf/) (https://s23.postimg.org/ky8l9z31z/Chun_King2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ky8l9z31z/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 12, 2017, 07:36:55 AM
No, he ret-hired.

yes, but now he is re-Hired!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 14, 2017, 12:38:34 PM
Next is Rabid Shave!

(https://s29.postimg.org/vyrpa7f6b/rabidshave_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vyrpa7f6b/)(https://s30.postimg.org/mybksiegd/Rapid_Shave.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mybksiegd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 14, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Next is Rabid Shave!

(https://s29.postimg.org/vyrpa7f6b/rabidshave_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vyrpa7f6b/)(https://s30.postimg.org/mybksiegd/Rapid_Shave.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mybksiegd/)

Decent gag, and the dog is great!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 14, 2017, 12:48:53 PM
Next is Rabid Shave!

(https://s29.postimg.org/vyrpa7f6b/rabidshave_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vyrpa7f6b/)

maybe menthol?

(https://s24.postimg.org/axed7j2w1/361788753848_1_0_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/axed7j2w1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 14, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
maybe menthol?

(https://s24.postimg.org/axed7j2w1/361788753848_1_0_1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/axed7j2w1/)

Yup...That's a closer match!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 16, 2017, 05:45:49 AM
Motorzola and Mazola...

(https://s24.postimg.org/z9pzi214h/motorzola_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z9pzi214h/)(https://s27.postimg.org/i84eqzqmn/Mazola2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i84eqzqmn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 16, 2017, 06:36:55 AM
Motorzola and Mazola...

gag was a bit of a stretch on the name, but other than that, I've always really loved this one. The bottle, oil and bubbles are fascinating to examine. Such a mastery of technique.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 16, 2017, 06:44:57 AM
gag was a bit of a stretch on the name, but other than that, I've always really loved this one. The bottle, oil and bubbles are fascinating to examine. Such a mastery of technique.

It is very well painted, and I liked it as a kid, but I still don't get why engine oil was a spoof of cooking oil.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 16, 2017, 08:26:24 AM
It is very well painted, and I liked it as a kid, but I still don't get why engine oil was a spoof of cooking oil.

Because they're both called oil?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 16, 2017, 08:52:16 AM
Because they're both called oil?

But Motorzola doesn't seem to be a parody of motor oil, either.  Apparently, it is great for your car engine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 16, 2017, 09:18:13 AM
I'm not saying it's particularly funny or clever--many wackys aren't--but the "joke" is just that your cooking oil has been replaced by motor oil.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 19, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
Drowny and Downy...

(https://s23.postimg.cc/fnz9klbdj/drowny_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fnz9klbdj/)(https://s27.postimg.cc/tdrjs2lgv/Downy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tdrjs2lgv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 19, 2017, 07:58:05 PM
Drowny and Downy...
love this one. great art - the suds outside the bottle and on the label, and that bottle.
not sure why 1064 gallons, other than that's a LOT of water
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 20, 2017, 09:25:08 AM
Sweathard vs Sweetheart Soap

http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/3rd/sweathard.jpg
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 20, 2017, 10:42:26 AM

Sweathard vs Sweetheart Soap

(http://www.lostwackys.com/images/original-series/3rd/sweathard.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on January 20, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
I kinda like the notion you would buy it to smell like an athlete. I could only find one advertisement picture for comparison.


(https://s29.postimg.org/m68g9x65v/sweathard.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m68g9x65v/)

(https://s29.postimg.org/5jqw0ud83/sweetheart.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5jqw0ud83/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 20, 2017, 01:06:53 PM
I always thought the guy on Sweathard soap looked like George Kennedy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 20, 2017, 03:23:50 PM
I kinda like the notion you would buy it to smell like an athlete. I could only find one advertisement picture for comparison.


(https://s29.postimg.org/m68g9x65v/sweathard.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m68g9x65v/)

(https://s29.postimg.org/5jqw0ud83/sweetheart.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5jqw0ud83/)

Once again, not much to work with on the packaging, but I think the gag is good, and I like the characters that were added.

I still don't know why anyone would name a soap "Sweetheart"   :-\
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on January 20, 2017, 08:03:16 PM
Agreed.  It is rather strange.  Somehow as if the soap in the ad was a actually a real life Wacky parodying some other soap. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 20, 2017, 08:50:01 PM
I still don't know why anyone would name a soap "Sweetheart"   :-\

"Because Sweetheart's extra lather with it's floating lift give you the refreshing luxurious beauty baths you want."

   (http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Sweet_zpscnecjnpj.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 22, 2017, 07:29:22 AM
Lova and Lava. Didn't understand why they needed to change the word. They could have just added a word after Lava in the parody.

(https://s29.postimg.org/oswd7hvr7/lova_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oswd7hvr7/) (https://s24.postimg.org/d3410qwr5/Lava.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d3410qwr5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 22, 2017, 08:19:48 AM
Lova and Lava. Didn't understand why they needed to change the word. They could have just added a word after Lava in the parody.

(https://s29.postimg.org/oswd7hvr7/lova_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oswd7hvr7/) (https://s24.postimg.org/d3410qwr5/Lava.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d3410qwr5/)

I never did get this one, but they did a good job perking up the packaging!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on January 22, 2017, 08:38:25 AM
I never did get this one, but they did a good job perking up the packaging!

I think Jay said Lova was a form of "Lover" that was popular back in the day. So maybe the "It erupts" line fits and was more risqué than we suspected!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on January 22, 2017, 08:44:28 AM
I never did get this one, but they did a good job perking up the packaging!

I think this is one of the weakest parodies in this series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 22, 2017, 09:14:18 AM
I think this is one of the weakest parodies in this series.
nice art, but yeah, one of the weakest.

maybe go the silly route:  Lama. Fleece-Powered! The Pack Animal Soap.

sure, could be 2 L's to spell it right, but it's a wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 24, 2017, 05:35:09 AM
"It's just natural, it's not a great disaster. People keep talking about it like it's The End of The Earth. It's only a rock group that split up, it's nothing important. You know, you have all the old records there if you want to reminisce." - John Lennon quote after the Beatles break-up

So in the modern age of overdone parallel cards or online exclusive Trump parodies, lets continue to reminisce and celebrate what makes vintage Wacky Packages so great!

Here is the next in line for the 3rd Series - 1.A. compared to A.1.

(https://s29.postimg.org/cafqa715f/1_A_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cafqa715f/)(https://s29.postimg.org/59c11up6r/A1_steak_sauce1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/59c11up6r/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on January 24, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
...

Here is the next in line for the 3rd Series - 1.A. compared to A.1.

(https://s29.postimg.org/cafqa715f/1_A_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cafqa715f/)(https://s29.postimg.org/59c11up6r/A1_steak_sauce1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/59c11up6r/)

So, out of the blue comes a pretty politically charged Wacky for it's time. How many today would get the 1A and 4F references? Although not much in the artwork department, I think this was a pretty clever and perhaps one of the more subtle parodies of this set, although admittedly, the "shake well to become 4F" and "Heck no! You won't go!" tag lines don't really tie back to the original product in any way. Certainly a departure from most Wackies of this time period.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 25, 2017, 07:00:39 PM
Hurtz and Hartz...


(https://s23.postimg.org/4yumkvzwn/hurtz_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4yumkvzwn/)(https://s28.postimg.org/v37j2iy1l/Hartz.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v37j2iy1l/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on January 26, 2017, 05:55:26 AM
Hurtz and Hartz...


(https://s23.postimg.org/4yumkvzwn/hurtz_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4yumkvzwn/)(https://s28.postimg.org/v37j2iy1l/Hartz.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v37j2iy1l/)

I liked this one as a kid but I bet they couldn't get away with the same artwork today.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 26, 2017, 06:17:42 AM
I liked this one as a kid but I bet they couldn't get away with the same artwork today.

I like this Wacky, and think it's a good gag.  They did a great job on the packaging!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 26, 2017, 07:14:11 AM
I liked this one as a kid but I bet they couldn't get away with the same artwork today.

My wife is a birdwatcher, so she hates this gag!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 27, 2017, 04:50:33 AM
Argh and Argo...

(https://s30.postimg.org/u2p0qv2u5/argh_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u2p0qv2u5/)(https://s28.postimg.org/tr7kkntgp/Argo.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tr7kkntgp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on January 27, 2017, 07:45:51 AM
My wife is a birdwatcher, so she hates this gag!

So do I.  I even sold my Superfractor of it.  But for some reason I don't mind Grave Train or Choke Wagon.  I think it's because of the arrow in the bird, whereas there is nothing comparable in the two dog Wackies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: lucidjc on January 27, 2017, 01:56:28 PM
So do I.  I even sold my Superfractor of it.  But for some reason I don't mind Grave Train or Choke Wagon.  I think it's because of the arrow in the bird, whereas there is nothing comparable in the two dog Wackies.

I agree, would have been so much better with the bird choking on a pull tab, or better yet a pull tab around its neck. The arrow has the connotation that it was shot by a human to kill the bird and nothing to do with the garbage(which I love on this one) in the product killing the bird. As a small child I thought it was a bit sad. I think its actually the blood that hits home.

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 28, 2017, 05:19:09 AM
Wrapping up Series 3 - here is Windchester...

(https://s24.postimg.org/hf0ck2oxd/windchester_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hf0ck2oxd/)(https://s27.postimg.org/x63hcc9jz/Winchester.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x63hcc9jz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 28, 2017, 05:42:45 AM
Wrapping up Series 3 - here is Windchester...

(https://s24.postimg.org/hf0ck2oxd/windchester_tan_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hf0ck2oxd/)(https://s27.postimg.org/x63hcc9jz/Winchester.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x63hcc9jz/)

I guess the product name was a pretty easy change, and the packaging and guns are well done, but this one never did much for me gag-wise. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 28, 2017, 06:18:55 AM
I guess the product name was a pretty easy change, and the packaging and guns are well done, but this one never did much for me gag-wise.
another one like Lova, where the actual product name is correct for the gag, but the name had to be altered to nonsense so it can be a Wacky.
unique in that there's background painting behind the guns, so that they'd stand out against what would otherwise be a black background.
the only change I'd make is to reverse the order of the points in the target. Highest points in the center, and dropping lower toward the outer circle
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 28, 2017, 06:37:26 AM
the only change I'd make is to reverse the order of the points in the target. Highest points in the center, and dropping lower toward the outer circle

Isn't that supposed to be part of the joke, that it's backwards?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 28, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Isn't that supposed to be part of the joke, that it's backwards?

Yep I noticed that a long time ago and thought it was clever, but someone posted a pic from I believe a 1969 Mad Magazine cover that had done this first, with of course Alfred E. in the bullseye for the lowest score.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 29, 2017, 06:30:45 AM
4th series 1973

Milk Foam


(https://s28.postimg.org/gbp8pu67d/milkfoam_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gbp8pu67d/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 29, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
Milk Foam


(https://s28.postimg.org/gbp8pu67d/milkfoam_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gbp8pu67d/)

You should probably mention we are starting the 4th series.
Here is actual Milk Bone packaging, the best I have.
(https://s30.postimg.org/ducqw45tp/Milk_Bone1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ducqw45tp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on January 29, 2017, 10:21:35 AM
You should probably mention we are starting the 4th series.
Here is actual Milk Bone packaging, the best I have.
(https://s30.postimg.org/ducqw45tp/Milk_Bone1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ducqw45tp/)

This one has always made me laugh.  Something about the dog brushing his teeth and looking rabid just gets me!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 30, 2017, 12:16:23 PM
Cheapios for a great breakfast..


(https://s30.postimg.org/ra8wvhni5/cheapios_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ra8wvhni5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on January 30, 2017, 12:31:31 PM
another one like Lova, where the actual product name is correct for the gag, but the name had to be altered to nonsense so it can be a Wacky.

I'd be curious to know if the original brand name was intended to be a reference to the gun maker.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on January 30, 2017, 03:57:10 PM
Cheapios for a great breakfast..


(https://s30.postimg.org/ra8wvhni5/cheapios_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ra8wvhni5/)

Cheapios and Cheerios comparison...


(https://s24.postimg.org/49ilcvuxd/cheapios_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/49ilcvuxd/)(https://s30.postimg.org/qctpesin1/Cheerios.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qctpesin1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 31, 2017, 12:06:59 PM
Rinkled Wrap


(https://s30.postimg.org/ilgxo4159/rinkledwrap_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ilgxo4159/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 02, 2017, 04:16:20 AM
Rinkled Wrap


(https://s30.postimg.org/ilgxo4159/rinkledwrap_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ilgxo4159/)

Here is the best Reynolds Wrap image I have...
(https://s30.postimg.org/8r1i2188d/Reynolds_Wrap1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8r1i2188d/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 02, 2017, 04:25:09 AM
Rinkled Wrap


(https://s30.postimg.org/ilgxo4159/rinkledwrap_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ilgxo4159/)

I really like this gag, and the foil is so well done!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 02, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
Hyde's Rox and Hydrox...

(https://s30.postimg.org/u7x0iqqsd/hydesrox_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u7x0iqqsd/)(https://s28.postimg.org/aqcvn196x/Hydrox2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/aqcvn196x/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 05, 2017, 04:52:31 AM
Gatoraid and Gatorade...

(https://s30.postimg.org/a3qa5h7i5/gatoraide_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a3qa5h7i5/)(https://s27.postimg.org/nnocawywv/Gatorade.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nnocawywv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: vahsurfer on February 05, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
Topps could release a series with Lenticulars of the original product and the wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on February 05, 2017, 09:43:08 AM
Always like the comparisons with the actual products.

(Not that it would be practical or feasible or cost-effective, but it would be nice to have a Wacky Packages Museum, which, among other displays, the physical products could be featured alongside of their respective stickers.  Double the nostalgia.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on February 05, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Gatoraid and Gatorade...

For me, having something extra inside the container ("Gatoraid," "Log Cave-In," "Gormel") always gave the Wacky an added element, yet one more detail to discover and appreciate.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 06, 2017, 04:45:00 AM
Wormy Packages and Wacky Packages...

(https://s30.postimg.org/5l3puxswt/wormypackages_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5l3puxswt/)(https://s24.postimg.org/fdl382l35/Wacky_Packages.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fdl382l35/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 06, 2017, 05:24:58 AM
Wormy Packages and Wacky Packages...

(https://s30.postimg.org/5l3puxswt/wormypackages_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5l3puxswt/)(https://s24.postimg.org/fdl382l35/Wacky_Packages.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fdl382l35/)

One of my favorites!  Great gag, cool worms, and a Wacky of Wackys!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: jleonard1967 on February 06, 2017, 08:12:26 AM
Always like the comparisons with the actual products.

(Not that it would be practical or feasible or cost-effective, but it would be nice to have a Wacky Packages Museum, which, among other displays, the physical products could be featured alongside of their respective stickers.  Double the nostalgia.)
You could always make a virtual museum.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 06, 2017, 08:19:45 AM
One of my favorites!  Great gag, cool worms, and a Wacky of Wackys!!
Same here. Something about the self spoof, and the worms, really worked for me as a kid. Loved it ever since.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 06, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
You could always make a virtual museum.

That's pretty much already been done, but someone could always try to do it better!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 07, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
Grass Wax and Glass Wax...

(https://s29.postimg.org/om48tq0fn/grasswax_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/om48tq0fn/)(https://s30.postimg.org/as6cbd0h9/Glass_Wax.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/as6cbd0h9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 08, 2017, 05:09:21 AM
This next Series 4 parody was pulled due to a C&D from Purina. Choke Wagon and Chuck Wagon...

(https://s28.postimg.org/mtn90utop/chokewagon_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mtn90utop/)(https://s30.postimg.org/4z2zl80ul/Chuck_Wagon.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4z2zl80ul/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 08, 2017, 06:28:29 AM
Grass Wax and Glass Wax...
Never saw or heard of Glass Wax, but always really liked the card. Nice dented can. Wouldn't change anything with this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on February 08, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
Choke Wagon is one of my all time favorite wackys ever. Just love it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 09, 2017, 04:48:50 AM
And here's the parody that replaced Choke Wagon...Mess Clairol

(https://s24.postimg.org/mnb7hc7i9/messclairoil_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mnb7hc7i9/)(https://s30.postimg.org/qt07ztj65/Miss_Clairol.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qt07ztj65/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 09, 2017, 06:37:01 AM
Grass Wax and Glass Wax...

(https://s29.postimg.org/om48tq0fn/grasswax_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/om48tq0fn/)(https://s30.postimg.org/as6cbd0h9/Glass_Wax.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/as6cbd0h9/)

Great gag, and a good rendition of the packaging.  The guy slipping is fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: mikecho on February 09, 2017, 07:29:21 PM
Wormy Packages and Wacky Packages...

(https://s30.postimg.org/5l3puxswt/wormypackages_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5l3puxswt/)(https://s24.postimg.org/fdl382l35/Wacky_Packages.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fdl382l35/)
IIRC, the poster Wacky Garbage came out about the same time. My only question is,which one was released first-Wormy Packages or Wacky Garbage?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 11, 2017, 04:33:45 AM
Hipton and Lipton...

(https://s29.postimg.org/krzcyqj2b/hipton_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/krzcyqj2b/)(https://s27.postimg.org/f8nq11r2n/Lipton3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f8nq11r2n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 11, 2017, 04:47:57 AM
Hipton and Lipton...

(https://s29.postimg.org/krzcyqj2b/hipton_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/krzcyqj2b/)(https://s27.postimg.org/f8nq11r2n/Lipton3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f8nq11r2n/)

Another great Wacky, including the gag, taglines and artwork!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on February 11, 2017, 06:25:31 AM
The lighting on the character really is fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 13, 2017, 04:51:58 AM
The artist must have used a lot of creative liberty with Armor Hot Dogs. I could not find an image of the actual Armour Hot Dogs packaging.

(https://s9.postimg.org/hsng1muwr/armor_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hsng1muwr/)(https://s15.postimg.org/7qjn8q3w7/Armour_hot_dogs.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7qjn8q3w7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 13, 2017, 05:14:29 AM
The artist must have used a lot of creative liberty with Armor Hot Dogs. I could not find an image of the actual Armour Hot Dogs packaging.

(https://s9.postimg.org/hsng1muwr/armor_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hsng1muwr/)(https://s15.postimg.org/7qjn8q3w7/Armour_hot_dogs.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7qjn8q3w7/)

Good gag and taglines, and really cool artwork.  I would love to see the actual packaging it was based on.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on February 13, 2017, 04:16:27 PM
Closest I could find...

(https://s15.postimg.org/5ldox08fr/8804a98e735dda50a62463ea6ddbccdd.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ldox08fr/)



(https://s24.postimg.org/7wz4tetoh/armourhd12_mam.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7wz4tetoh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 14, 2017, 04:51:45 AM
Closest I could find...

(https://s15.postimg.org/5ldox08fr/8804a98e735dda50a62463ea6ddbccdd.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ldox08fr/)



(https://s24.postimg.org/7wz4tetoh/armourhd12_mam.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7wz4tetoh/)
Armour had a lot of packaging styles. The packaging design used for the parody is non-existent me thinks.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 14, 2017, 04:54:42 AM
Blue Beanie and Blue Bonnet compared. Was there an orange box for the regular margarine?

(https://s1.postimg.org/phgow55p7/bluebeanie_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/phgow55p7/)
(https://s11.postimg.org/xwc82u54f/Blue_Bonnet1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xwc82u54f/)(https://s3.postimg.org/yuecz9fpr/Blue_Bonnet3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yuecz9fpr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 14, 2017, 05:12:13 AM
Blue Beanie and Blue Bonnet compared. Was there an orange box for the regular margarine?

(https://s1.postimg.org/phgow55p7/bluebeanie_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/phgow55p7/)
(https://s11.postimg.org/xwc82u54f/Blue_Bonnet1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xwc82u54f/)(https://s3.postimg.org/yuecz9fpr/Blue_Bonnet3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yuecz9fpr/)

I always liked this gag, and the girl is fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 15, 2017, 04:44:44 AM
Fang and Tang...

(https://s2.postimg.org/t5hjgwez9/fang_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t5hjgwez9/)(https://s24.postimg.org/8ei3t9q5t/Tang1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8ei3t9q5t/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 15, 2017, 04:57:13 AM
Fang and Tang...

(https://s2.postimg.org/t5hjgwez9/fang_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t5hjgwez9/)(https://s24.postimg.org/8ei3t9q5t/Tang1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8ei3t9q5t/)

Great gag and taglines, and wonderful art.  I wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on February 15, 2017, 11:39:17 AM
Great gag and taglines, and wonderful art.  I wouldn't change a thing!

Ditto,  FANG is one of my top ten Wackies of all time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on February 15, 2017, 11:52:46 AM
I always liked this gag, and the girl is fantastic!

Blue Beanie is a cutie alright!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on February 15, 2017, 01:42:02 PM
Fang gets a special award for being a top wacky for me that WASN'T pulled.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on February 15, 2017, 03:24:39 PM
Blue Beanie and Blue Bonnet compared. Was there an orange box for the regular margarine?

(https://s1.postimg.org/phgow55p7/bluebeanie_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/phgow55p7/)
(https://s11.postimg.org/xwc82u54f/Blue_Bonnet1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xwc82u54f/)(https://s3.postimg.org/yuecz9fpr/Blue_Bonnet3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yuecz9fpr/)
Why is it mean to serve a beanie?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 17, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
Brute 88 and Brut 33...

(https://s27.postimg.org/ln67pzma7/brute_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ln67pzma7/)(https://s1.postimg.org/eto6cim0b/Brut_33.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eto6cim0b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on February 17, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Brute 88 and Brut 33...

(https://s27.postimg.org/ln67pzma7/brute_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ln67pzma7/)(https://s1.postimg.org/eto6cim0b/Brut_33.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/eto6cim0b/)

I like this one. The only change I would suggest would be to add " NET. WT. 800 lbs "
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 19, 2017, 11:01:17 AM
Bald and Bold...


(https://s15.postimg.org/m3ce769br/bald_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m3ce769br/)(https://s23.postimg.org/7ta4ugk87/Bold.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ta4ugk87/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 21, 2017, 05:01:26 AM
Bent and Kent. Was there suppose to be copy between those curly lines in the center of Bent?


(https://s8.postimg.org/fycykf6sh/bend_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fycykf6sh/)(https://s10.postimg.org/gapzw65w5/Kent2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gapzw65w5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: BustedFinger on February 21, 2017, 09:23:01 AM
http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/4th-series/Bent-art-wacky-packages.htm

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 21, 2017, 11:01:28 AM
"Bent on destroying your lungs" is pretty funny.

This is the brand my father smoked in the late 60's and early 70's, so I liked this title a lot because the pack design was so familiar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 23, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
I was starting to fall behind! Here's Quake 'n Ache next to Shake 'n Bake...


(https://s2.postimg.org/fo8dp8db9/quakenache_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fo8dp8db9/)(https://s15.postimg.org/w3jvsnnzr/Shake_n_Bake.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w3jvsnnzr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: BustedFinger on February 24, 2017, 09:01:27 AM
I was starting to fall behind! Here's Quake 'n Ache next to Shake 'n Bake...


(https://s2.postimg.org/fo8dp8db9/quakenache_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fo8dp8db9/)(https://s15.postimg.org/w3jvsnnzr/Shake_n_Bake.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/w3jvsnnzr/)

And another title where a gag was removed from the original art (or in this case covered up) before printing the stickers:

http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/4th-series/QuakenAche-wacky-packages.htm

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 25, 2017, 02:55:42 PM
I love this one! Heave and Eve...

(https://s14.postimg.org/u9poxau5p/heave_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u9poxau5p/)(https://s7.postimg.org/wan4ecdkn/Eve.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wan4ecdkn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 25, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
And another title where a gag was removed from the original art (or in this case covered up) before printing the stickers:

http://www.lostwackys.com/Wacky-Packages/4th-series/QuakenAche-wacky-packages.htm

Maybe I would have liked it better with the extra tag line, but this one is still middle of the pack for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on February 25, 2017, 08:12:05 PM
I love this one! Heave and Eve...

(https://s14.postimg.org/u9poxau5p/heave_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u9poxau5p/)(https://s7.postimg.org/wan4ecdkn/Eve.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wan4ecdkn/)
I hate Cigarette titles but do love this one too!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on February 25, 2017, 08:44:41 PM
Maybe I would have liked it better with the extra tag line, but this one is still middle of the pack for me.

Ha!  Middle of the PACK..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on February 26, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Ha!  Middle of the PACK..
Think Pat was referring to Quake 'n' Ache, not Heave.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on February 26, 2017, 03:57:59 PM
Think Pat was referring to Quake 'n' Ache, not Heave.

Party pooper.   :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 27, 2017, 05:14:33 AM
One for the Admin! Raw Goo and Ragu.

(https://s11.postimg.org/4ro7vcp0v/rawgoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ro7vcp0v/)(https://s15.postimg.org/yb8r0ka1z/Ragu1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yb8r0ka1z/)(https://s18.postimg.org/ruew5bb2t/24158584124_53e7aa08df_b.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ruew5bb2t/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on February 27, 2017, 05:20:40 AM
One for the Admin! Raw Goo and Ragu.

(https://s11.postimg.org/4ro7vcp0v/rawgoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ro7vcp0v/)(https://s18.postimg.org/ruew5bb2t/24158584124_53e7aa08df_b.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ruew5bb2t/)

I've always liked this one, and I still call it by the Wacky name.  Wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on February 28, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
Chef Girl-Ar-Dee and Chef Boy-Ar-Dee. I can't help but wonder if the woman on the parody was depicted as a lesbian.

(https://s13.postimg.org/daq8u8nfn/chefgirlardee_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/daq8u8nfn/)(https://s7.postimg.org/6eewdkuhz/Chef_Boy_ar_dee1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6eewdkuhz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 02, 2017, 03:49:30 AM
Land O Quakes and Lakes...


(https://s27.postimg.org/xxxp0nybj/landoquakes_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xxxp0nybj/)(https://s18.postimg.org/e9jp23nvp/Land_O_Lakes.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/e9jp23nvp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 02, 2017, 04:10:36 AM
Land O Quakes and Lakes...


(https://s27.postimg.org/xxxp0nybj/landoquakes_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xxxp0nybj/)(https://s18.postimg.org/e9jp23nvp/Land_O_Lakes.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/e9jp23nvp/)

Another one that still makes me smile, and for which I still use the Wacky name.  Love that character!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: quas on March 02, 2017, 05:16:55 AM
Another one that still makes me smile, and for which I still use the Wacky name.  Love that character!

It would be interesting to poll the top 10 Wackies for which Forum members use the Wacky name rather than the actual product name.  With so many Band Ache stickers now being available from the Chrome issue, I certainly have one stuck on my metal tin of Band Aids!  And I occasionally brush with Crust.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 02, 2017, 07:02:25 AM
It would be interesting to poll the top 10 Wackies for which Forum members use the Wacky name rather than the actual product name.  With so many Band Ache stickers now being available from the Chrome issue, I certainly have one stuck on my metal tin of Band Aids!  And I occasionally brush with Crust.

I made a magnet of Crust and it is on the medicine cabinet in my bathroom, right above my toothpaste   :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 02, 2017, 08:54:27 AM
I can't help but wonder if the woman on the parody was depicted as a lesbian.

(https://s13.postimg.org/daq8u8nfn/chefgirlardee_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/daq8u8nfn/)

You're treading on dangerous ground     :-[    She is wearing a pearl necklace.

Regarding the reference to the use of "Ms." in the parody, is it OK these days to use that term?

What is the proper etiquette / politically correct protocol?

Do you call your lady "Miss Swiski"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 03, 2017, 11:38:54 AM
Moving right along...Grazin' Bran and Raisin Bran...

(https://s23.postimg.org/tfplubhkn/grazinbran_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tfplubhkn/)(https://s16.postimg.org/lstwej9ld/Raisin_Bran.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lstwej9ld/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 04, 2017, 03:55:31 AM
Moving right along...Grazin' Bran and Raisin Bran...

(https://s23.postimg.org/tfplubhkn/grazinbran_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tfplubhkn/)(https://s16.postimg.org/lstwej9ld/Raisin_Bran.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lstwej9ld/)

I like the gag, and the goofy horse is great.  Don't recall any other horses on OS Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 04, 2017, 05:19:16 AM
didn't see this one as a kid, as my 4th series set had a lot of gaps.
finally saw it many years later and was disappointed. was too simplistic and one-note of a joke.  the plain white box side looks like little time was spent on this one.
Plus, I never made the connection as to why an Indian War Horse is depicted on the cover? (circle around the eye and a feather headdress)
Maybe just to add some flair for what would otherwise have been a dull image?

my improvements would be to add something to the box side and to improve the color registry. the red seems blown out on the horse bib and bowl. And often the purple box is not uniform and looks like a disaster.

(https://s21.postimg.org/slgaj1ks3/APPALOOSA_INDIAN_WAR_HORSE.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/slgaj1ks3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on March 04, 2017, 03:50:50 PM
Another one that still makes me smile, and for which I still use the Wacky name.  Love that character!
You and I seem to be exactly in synch on the products in which we use the wacky name!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: vahsurfer on March 05, 2017, 09:32:54 AM
They really need to make a set of these with the actual product and lenticular it!

NO WACKY SUBSETS - Simple back set
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 06, 2017, 04:49:05 AM
Liquid Bomber and Liquid Plumr. Wonder why they didn't spell it as Plumber?

(https://s22.postimg.org/d58u7elvh/liquidbomber_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d58u7elvh/)(https://s2.postimg.org/ic5ev7idx/Liquid_Plumr.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ic5ev7idx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 06, 2017, 06:23:12 AM
Liquid Bomber and Liquid Plumr. Wonder why they didn't spell it as Plumber?

And likewise I wonder why the Wacky wasn't spelled Bomr?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: slamjim on March 06, 2017, 10:26:57 AM
Liquid Bomber and Liquid Plumr. Wonder why they didn't spell it as Plumber?

(https://s22.postimg.org/d58u7elvh/liquidbomber_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d58u7elvh/)(https://s2.postimg.org/ic5ev7idx/Liquid_Plumr.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ic5ev7idx/)

I'm thinking it's because the logo would then go too far around the other side so you's only see Liquid Plumb.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2017, 05:04:48 AM
Bum Chex and Wheat Chex...

(https://s16.postimg.org/c0i34yjk1/bumchex_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c0i34yjk1/)(https://s10.postimg.org/nw96x5tz9/Wheat_Chex.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nw96x5tz9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on March 07, 2017, 06:25:07 AM
I like the gag, and the goofy horse is great.  Don't recall any other horses on OS Wackys.

Yep, that's one goofy horse! Honestly, I don't think horses were Norm's strongest suit, not to say they weren't great, but by his standards, I think there were other animals (cats and dogs, for example) that he preferred to paint.

Anyway, here's a few more really good horses from the OS: Weakinson Blades, Mare Cigarettes, and Muleburro.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on March 07, 2017, 09:26:59 AM
Chef Girl-Ar-Dee and Chef Boy-Ar-Dee. I can't help but wonder if the woman on the parody was depicted as a lesbian.

(https://s13.postimg.org/daq8u8nfn/chefgirlardee_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/daq8u8nfn/)(https://s7.postimg.org/6eewdkuhz/Chef_Boy_ar_dee1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6eewdkuhz/)

To me, one of the most memorable titles from the OS stickers. The pasta is funny too, and I recall seeing pornographic pasta in a Sausalito tourist gag shop around that same time that made me laugh as a tweenager. A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on March 07, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
Bald and Bold...


(https://s15.postimg.org/m3ce769br/bald_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m3ce769br/)(https://s23.postimg.org/7ta4ugk87/Bold.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ta4ugk87/)

I showed this one to the librarian at my jr high school because I told him it reminded me of him. He laughed but I'm sure it was a rueful chuckle....A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on March 07, 2017, 03:30:07 PM
I think the parody on the product name is good on this one, but doesn't tie into anything else with the product or its properties.   My friends and I did indeed call each other morons (and regrettably, the now, even less politically correct  name, retards) all the time. So I guess I related at that level. This was certainly a familiar product in our home at the time. Another case where, for me, the character was just not that memorable.



(https://s16.postimg.org/fzurtya01/moron1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fzurtya01/)

(https://s16.postimg.org/3z9bt82ld/moron2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3z9bt82ld/)

Ok, am going back ALOT of pages, but I always found this one funny. First off, it was such a familiar item around the home and secondly, to a kid, the original tag line never made sense and this parody just made it funny. I do remember a few lines from the commercial - when it rains, it pours, and it did, and it does, and you're cute....which was referring to the picture of the girl on the salt can. Where of course, Wacky's decided to give a really obnoxious leer! A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on March 07, 2017, 03:48:59 PM
Bum Chex and Wheat Chex...

(https://s16.postimg.org/c0i34yjk1/bumchex_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c0i34yjk1/)(https://s10.postimg.org/nw96x5tz9/Wheat_Chex.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nw96x5tz9/)

Funny, I always thought Bum Chex was based on Bran Chex but it looks like Wheat Chex is a much better match.
(https://s22.postimg.org/3pldskalp/c_444.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3pldskalp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
Funny, I always thought Bum Chex was based on Bran Chex but it looks like Wheat Chex is a much better match.
(https://s22.postimg.org/3pldskalp/c_444.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3pldskalp/)

It's possible the parody was based on Bran Chex. I couldn't find a photo of a box with a close design except the Wheat Chex.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on March 08, 2017, 03:34:12 AM
It's possible the parody was based on Bran Chex. I couldn't find a photo of a box with a close design except the Wheat Chex.

Was Bran Chex a thing in the early  '70s?  I only remember wheat, rice and corn.  Seems like the bran and multi-grain phase come in the  '80s.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 08, 2017, 04:13:01 AM
I just noticed an inset image of Scotch Tape packaging used for Screech tape is on the Wheat Chex box. I will have to save that for a future comparison!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on March 08, 2017, 07:25:30 AM
Was Bran Chex a thing in the early  '70s?  I only remember wheat, rice and corn.  Seems like the bran and multi-grain phase come in the  '80s.

After a quick search, it seems as though Bran Chex didn't even come out until 1978, which would mean that  Bum Chex was most certainly based on the Wheat Chex box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on March 08, 2017, 11:38:23 AM
I just noticed an inset image of Scotch Tape packaging used for Screech tape is on the Wheat Chex box. I will have to save that for a future comparison!

They sure weren't aiming for the kids-nag-your-parents-to-buy-this-to-get-the cool-free-toy-inside purchase were they? 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Joe G. on March 08, 2017, 12:12:56 PM
They sure weren't aiming for the kids-nag-your-parents-to-buy-this-to-get-the cool-free-toy-inside purchase were they?

Scot, that is too funny!  The second I saw that box, I showed to my wife and said "Worst Free-Inside ever!"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 08, 2017, 02:20:12 PM
Windhex and Windex...


(https://s24.postimg.org/i239bsa41/windhex_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i239bsa41/)(https://s15.postimg.org/c6zgj5uif/Windex1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c6zgj5uif/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on March 08, 2017, 03:40:22 PM
Scot, that is too funny!  The second I saw that box, I showed to my wife and said "Worst Free-Inside ever!"

LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 12, 2017, 10:46:41 AM
Freetoes and Fritos...

(https://s13.postimg.org/ctfwx4ywz/freetoes_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ctfwx4ywz/)(https://s13.postimg.org/wbpj5tf5f/Fritos2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wbpj5tf5f/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 12, 2017, 12:09:00 PM
Freetoes and Fritos...

(https://s13.postimg.org/ctfwx4ywz/freetoes_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ctfwx4ywz/)(https://s13.postimg.org/wbpj5tf5f/Fritos2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wbpj5tf5f/)

Pretty good Wacky, but I always thought there should have been a tag line about corns, instead of (or preferably in addition to) the "hard as nails".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 16, 2017, 04:47:24 AM
Nestree and Nestea. Looks like it was based on the Lemon flavored tea on the right side, but the edge of the round box in the center has a brown border on the parody.

(https://s28.postimg.org/6f5emo3ll/nestree_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6f5emo3ll/)(https://s7.postimg.org/opzhjzs0n/Nestea2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/opzhjzs0n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 16, 2017, 05:28:35 AM
Nestree and Nestea. Looks like it was based on the Lemon flavored tea on the right side, but the edge of the round box in the center has a brown border on the parody.

(https://s28.postimg.org/6f5emo3ll/nestree_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6f5emo3ll/)(https://s7.postimg.org/opzhjzs0n/Nestea2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/opzhjzs0n/)

Not a bad gag, but I don't get the "insane" tagline.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 16, 2017, 05:32:19 AM
Not a bad gag, but I don't get the "insane" tagline.

They were trying to come up with a word that is close to "Instant" I guess. But these birds don't look insane. More like something peaceful from an Audubon painting.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on March 16, 2017, 07:52:25 AM
Maybe they're insanely thirsty?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on March 16, 2017, 02:36:40 PM
Pretty good Wacky, but I always thought there should have been a tag line about corns, instead of (or preferably in addition to) the "hard as nails".
yes, show corns on the feet that have been partially chipped off!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 16, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
Looks like it was based on the Lemon flavored tea on the right side, but the edge of the round box in the center has a brown border on the parody.
(https://s28.postimg.org/6f5emo3ll/nestree_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6f5emo3ll/)
looks like it was based on a version with gold borders. didn't find the lemon flavor after a quick search, but it's probably out there

(http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7250/7411539780_a27d13e28d.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 20, 2017, 05:05:51 AM
Dampers and Pampers...


(https://s2.postimg.org/n2d3wmss5/dampers_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n2d3wmss5/)(https://s18.postimg.org/diln8yyv9/Pampers.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/diln8yyv9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 25, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
Taster's Choke and Taster's Choice...

(https://s21.postimg.org/gghju6usj/tasterschoke_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gghju6usj/)(https://s27.postimg.org/3xrekivov/Taster_s_Choice1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3xrekivov/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on March 25, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
Taster's Choke and Taster's Choice...

I always thought the cigarette butts were a nice added - and disgusting - touch!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 25, 2017, 01:57:59 PM
I always thought the cigarette butts were a nice added - and disgusting - touch!

Yeah, it's kind of funny, my aunt who couldn't live without coffee, and always had a pot ready, also smoked like a chimney, so I got that association.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on March 26, 2017, 11:22:51 AM
Escuire and Esquire. I don't get the joke!

(https://s14.postimg.org/s688o7vvx/esquire_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/s688o7vvx/)(https://s12.postimg.org/h3k6iadmh/Esquire.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h3k6iadmh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on March 26, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
"Esquire" to "Escuire" appears to be just a simple change of spelling.

The joke is that the shoeless bum with the raggedy top hat, clothes, and umbrella believes he can be just as classy, dapper, and suave as somebody in the upper class gentry simply by polishing his bare feet until they shine radiantly.

In addition to simple, silly gags and wordplay, Wacky Packages at this time would sometimes also poke fun at the different ways that product packaging would lure people in.  The original "Esquire" packaging might have someone believe that they would be "magically transformed" from an ordinary person into an aristocrat simply by applying this polish to their shoes.  Ah, a Cinderella, rags-to-riches story!  Even today, ads pull the same stunt.  Wear such and such makeup, ladies, and you'll melt years off your looks. The sad reality is that, having spent money, the elderly lady is still an elderly lady - just now wearing makeup, and the ordinary working Joe is still an ordinary working Joe - just with freshly polished shoes.

The "Rebell" Model Jet is another example of this expectation VS reality.  I'd be willing to bet that of all the plastic models assembled by people over the years, less than 90% of them actually looked like the picture depicted on the box when they were finished.  Hence, in keeping with "MAD" magazine humor, we get...

(https://s11.postimg.org/6lwsk8k5b/rebeljet_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lwsk8k5b/)

With both "Rebell" and "Escuire," a general statement is being made about what the product actually is VS what the company of the product would like us to believe.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on March 26, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
Escuire and Esquire. I don't get the joke!

(https://s14.postimg.org/s688o7vvx/esquire_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/s688o7vvx/)(https://s12.postimg.org/h3k6iadmh/Esquire.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h3k6iadmh/)

Probably my least favorite of the series.  Never saw the product, or got the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 01, 2017, 03:49:08 AM
Wrapping up Series 4 is a two-fer for the weekend!

Quit and Quik...

(https://s18.postimg.org/fn1d1x9g5
/quit_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fn1d1x9g5/)(https://s18.postimg.org/neeepd41x/Quik.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/neeepd41x/)

Mustard Charge and Master Charge...

(https://s29.postimg.org/vnb4ciexf/mustartcharge_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vnb4ciexf/)(https://s30.postimg.org/etkmljrvx/Master_Charge1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/etkmljrvx/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on April 01, 2017, 04:36:36 AM
Wrapping up Series 4 is a two-fer for the weekend!

Quit and Quik...

(https://s18.postimg.org/fn1d1x9g5
/quit_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fn1d1x9g5/)(https://s18.postimg.org/neeepd41x/Quik.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/neeepd41x/)

Mustard Charge and Master Charge...

(https://s29.postimg.org/vnb4ciexf/mustartcharge_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vnb4ciexf/)(https://s30.postimg.org/etkmljrvx/Master_Charge1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/etkmljrvx/)

I always liked Quit, I think because of the wonderful can and top, not so much for the gag.

Mustard Charge was boring, but had a decent gag and tag lines.  I also liked it because I used to keep one in my wallet, along with my library card and my Burger King issued "driver's license."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on April 01, 2017, 04:49:01 AM
Yeah, the painting is what sells Quit, especially that hand reaching out of the top of the can!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 03, 2017, 05:33:08 AM
On to the 5th Series!

Betty Crooked Sludge Brick Mix and Betty Crocker Fudge Brownie Mix...

(https://s10.postimg.org/433z78qfp/sludge_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/433z78qfp/)(https://s10.postimg.org/41u1dtolx/Betty_Crocker_Fudge_Brownie_Mix.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41u1dtolx/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on April 03, 2017, 06:11:27 AM
On to the 5th Series!

Betty Crooked Sludge Brick Mix and Betty Crocker Fudge Brownie Mix...

(https://s10.postimg.org/433z78qfp/sludge_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/433z78qfp/)(https://s10.postimg.org/41u1dtolx/Betty_Crocker_Fudge_Brownie_Mix.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41u1dtolx/)

I always liked this one, even though it didn't have a character.  I had wondered about the letters and numbers on the top brick, and realize now that the "NBS" is Norm Saunders' initials.  Still not sure what the "00" stands for.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on April 03, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
Still not sure what the "00" stands for.
Pat, if you mean after the initials, that is not "00", it is "CO". Short for Company.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on April 03, 2017, 05:14:50 PM
Pat, if you mean after the initials, that is not "00", it is "CO". Short for Company.

Thanks!  My eyes are definitely shot..........
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on April 03, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
Liquid Bomber and Liquid Plumr. Wonder why they didn't spell it as Plumber?

(https://s22.postimg.org/d58u7elvh/liquidbomber_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/d58u7elvh/)(https://s2.postimg.org/ic5ev7idx/Liquid_Plumr.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ic5ev7idx/)
Probably to preempt any claims by disgruntled consumers that the product didn't meet expectations.  If they called it "plumber" you'd have all kinds of nut jobs coming out of the woodwork screaming "I thought this was supposed to be able to do whatever a plumber can do!"  Like a CYA thing.  I've come to notice that many products with chocolate flavor will describe it specifically as "chocolatey".  Cereal being a good example.  Why?  Because there's no real chocolate in it.  It's just "like chocolate."  Similarly, if you go to the deli counter and see "Krab salad", that "K" isn't bad spelling.  It's because there's no real "Crab" in it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on April 03, 2017, 08:14:46 PM
"Krab salad", that "K" isn't bad spelling.  It's because there's no real "Crab" in it.
Yeah, there could be any krap in there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: vahsurfer on April 04, 2017, 01:38:28 AM
Would have been more appropriate to take the top 50 cards from 1-16 and place the original product on the back of the card with updated artwork for the anniversary set........
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 05, 2017, 05:20:01 AM
Tijuana Smells and Tijuana Smalls. I found two images - one with the accurate lettering and layout, one with the sunset backdrop but funky lettering


(https://s17.postimg.org/6lkj5xlbf/tiujana_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lkj5xlbf/)(https://s29.postimg.org/avdi94q9v/Tijuana_Smalls1.png) (https://postimg.org/image/avdi94q9v/)(https://s29.postimg.org/49dq1p54j/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/49dq1p54j/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on April 05, 2017, 05:44:28 PM
one with the sunset backdrop but funky lettering
//postimg.org/image/49dq1p54j/](https://s29.postimg.org/49dq1p54j/image.jpg)[/url]

"Funky" is one way of describing it!  Talk about a blast from the past!  You definitely don't see lettering like that nowadays!  So 70s!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: BustedFinger on April 05, 2017, 06:27:19 PM
Mustard Charge was boring, but had a decent gag and tag lines.  I also liked it because I used to keep one in my wallet, along with my library card and my Burger King issued "driver's license."

I still have a Mustard Charge that I peeled and laminated.  I carry it around in my wallet too!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 06, 2017, 04:44:44 AM
Old Spit and Old Spice...

(https://s29.postimg.org/63bbhczpv/oldspit_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/63bbhczpv/)(https://s23.postimg.org/oqom6z9ev/Old_Spice.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oqom6z9ev/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 08, 2017, 04:44:39 AM
Here's two smokes for the weekend.

Muleburro and Marlboro...

(https://s21.postimg.org/iltfijuwj/muleburro_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/iltfijuwj/)(https://s4.postimg.org/z3mbyhsu1/Marlboro1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z3mbyhsu1/)

White Fowl and White Owl...

(https://s14.postimg.org/45w31id7x/whitefowl_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/45w31id7x/)(https://s8.postimg.org/y1h9nj7dd/White_Owl1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y1h9nj7dd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 11, 2017, 04:57:28 AM
Dang! No love for Series 5 titles lately. How 'bout this comparison? Swiss Mess and Swiss Miss. Is this another from Jason's packaging collection?

(https://s7.postimg.org/dxm5volhz/swissmess_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dxm5volhz/)(https://s12.postimg.org/a4wwprcvd/Swiss_Miss3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a4wwprcvd/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on April 11, 2017, 08:49:58 AM
What a beautiful mess!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on April 11, 2017, 09:06:54 AM
Dang! No love for Series 5 titles lately. How 'bout this comparison? Swiss Mess and Swiss Miss. Is this another from Jason's packaging collection?

(https://s7.postimg.org/dxm5volhz/swissmess_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dxm5volhz/)(https://s12.postimg.org/a4wwprcvd/Swiss_Miss3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a4wwprcvd/)

I always liked this one... perhaps it's the pig luxuriating in hot chocolate swill. Looking at the original product packaging makes me wonder about the line, "Please don't add milk. Just add hot water." Sounds just a little menacing. Just what would happen if you DID add milk?   
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bigtomi on April 11, 2017, 09:58:53 AM
Just what would happen if you DID add milk?
Why, it would become Swiss Mess, of course!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on April 11, 2017, 03:41:41 PM
Swiss Mess and Swiss Miss.

I always like this one as well.  I don't really connect the Wacky to the packaged product, though, as much as I connect it to the commercials they ran in the 70s featuring a stop-motion Swiss Miss girl (and the strange, unsettling, way that stop-motion characters have about them that fascinated me as a kid.  You know, "Jason and the Argonauts," that kind of stuff.)

https://youtu.be/P_idQFFW1kE
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on April 11, 2017, 05:28:33 PM
Dang! No love for Series 5 titles lately. How 'bout this comparison? Swiss Mess and Swiss Miss. Is this another from Jason's packaging collection?

(https://s7.postimg.org/dxm5volhz/swissmess_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dxm5volhz/)(https://s12.postimg.org/a4wwprcvd/Swiss_Miss3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a4wwprcvd/)

I always liked this one, and I still call it by the Wacky name.  The tagline for "sloppy" instead of "cocoa" is pretty far off, but the rest more than makes up for that!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on April 11, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
Dang! No love for Series 5 titles lately.

I think many of us have been, well, overwhelmed with the 50th Anniversary set lately.  It's nice to go back here, though, and revisit the times in which it all began.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 12, 2017, 04:53:09 AM
I normally don't mix modern with vintage, but since Secrets was re-released this week online as a new parody, I will post a triple comparison...


(https://s11.postimg.org/6u9dhhqnz/secrets_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6u9dhhqnz/)(https://s29.postimg.org/v4y09v82r/ARTGPK-16_C2_S-17_GPAP-_RRSE-_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v4y09v82r/)(https://s24.postimg.org/3qm3d77lt/Sucrets.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3qm3d77lt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 29, 2017, 10:44:58 PM
Moobelline and Maybelline...


(https://s16.postimg.org/bw0trf6k1/moobelline_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bw0trf6k1/) (https://s9.postimg.org/j67qbab97/Maybelline.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j67qbab97/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on April 30, 2017, 04:51:59 AM
Moobelline and Maybelline...


(https://s16.postimg.org/bw0trf6k1/moobelline_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bw0trf6k1/) (https://s9.postimg.org/j67qbab97/Maybelline.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j67qbab97/)

This one still makes me smile.  I like the "Moobeline" gag, and the tagline is funny.  The product itself doesn't provide much to work with, but the artist managed to give us a decent cow!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2017, 05:21:20 AM
Moobeline is a good example of how I feel about a lot of wackys. I love the overall appearance and colors without caring much about the gag. I like this one even without much artwork, kind of like how I feel about cigarette wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on April 30, 2017, 07:07:43 AM
Here's another comparison for the day...Light 'n Dizzy and Light 'n Lively.

I always thought the real product was Light 'n Easy before I found images.

Maybe Light 'n Deadly would have been a better parody, showing a guy in a Yoga pose who secretly farted, with a guilty look on his face. But Topps didn't do potty humor a lot in those days.

(https://s29.postimg.org/coarp69b7/yoga_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/coarp69b7/)(https://s16.postimg.org/rw38x2vf5/Light_N_Lively2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rw38x2vf5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 30, 2017, 07:17:44 AM
I remember Light and Lively milk and ice milk very clearly. Was it an imprint of Sealtest?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on April 30, 2017, 08:53:16 AM
Ah, good!  They're back!  Thanks, Swiski!

Yes, "Light and Lively" products were an imprint of Sealtest, said company ultimately being swallowed up by a succession of larger corporations a few decades ago.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 13, 2017, 12:17:13 PM
"Head & Boulders" and "Head & Shoulders"
Original Series 5

(https://s4.postimg.org/4xto9rx1l/headboulders_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4xto9rx1l/)

(https://s29.postimg.org/ehed6h9lf/ef2dc0594593a40e5a77e996f066d4fa.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ehed6h9lf/)

And today's product:

(https://s3.postimg.org/qns3y08jz/HSSHAMPOO400_ML80287105_CLASSICCLEANFOPNA.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qns3y08jz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on May 13, 2017, 01:56:30 PM
"Head & Boulders" and "Head & Shoulders"
Original Series 5

(https://s4.postimg.org/4xto9rx1l/headboulders_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4xto9rx1l/)

(https://s29.postimg.org/ehed6h9lf/ef2dc0594593a40e5a77e996f066d4fa.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ehed6h9lf/)


I always liked this gag, especially the character that was added.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on May 14, 2017, 08:57:50 AM
Do Swiski and other members posting real product images actually own examples of these Wacky-era packages, or are they mostly just published images from old magazine ads and such?  Reason I ask is that for many of these products, exact matches are very difficult to find.  Recall Jason's story of how long it took him to find a matching Smith Bros. (Smith Sisters) cough drops box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on May 14, 2017, 09:01:19 AM
Even Rusty's lostwackys site, which includes by far the most complete attempt at displaying actual products side-by-side with each Wacky title, has only approximate matches in many cases.  The examples being shown on this thread seem to be all perfect matches.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2017, 09:40:10 AM
I personally do not own any of the packaging. I find the images from various sources online. Many of them from Jason's or other image collections on Flickr, but also from Pinterest, eBay, and even a simple Google search. There are quite a few exact packaging images that still elude me to this day.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2017, 09:42:20 AM
Ack! I'm falling behind again!

Here's Big Baddy and Big Buddy. I always thought the actual gum was called Big Daddy!

(https://s30.postimg.org/4dlc00xzx/bigbaddy_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4dlc00xzx/)(https://s18.postimg.org/gvfjowdp1/Big_Buddy_bubble_gum.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gvfjowdp1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2017, 09:47:57 AM
Here's another one...Plopsikle and Popsicle

(https://s14.postimg.org/cysy95k7h/plopsikle_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cysy95k7h/)(https://s29.postimg.org/a185d22w3/Popsicle1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a185d22w3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 14, 2017, 09:59:42 AM
Do Swiski and other members posting real product images actually own examples of these Wacky-era packages, or are they mostly just published images from old magazine ads and such?  Reason I ask is that for many of these products, exact matches are very difficult to find.  Recall Jason's story of how long it took him to find a matching Smith Bros. (Smith Sisters) cough drops box.

This is the first time I posted a title on this thread (so as to keep it going, being there has been a lull) and no, I, personally, don't own examples of products posted here.  Besides "Celestial Seasonings" tea boxes, my small collection of products tends to lean toward those things "strange, poisonous, and dangerous," that is, radium water bottles, laudanum, arsenic, etc. - products that once-upon-a-time could be found in your average household, yet were highly lethal.

To find the "Head and Shoulders" photograph, I just searched online, adding words like "vintage," "seventies," etc. until I came across what I was looking for.  Some products (and information pertaining to them,) though, are notoriously difficult to find.  We tend to toss most packaging in the trash today, and I'm sure in the past it was no different.  For example, how many of us would have thought to keep an empty, greasy bag of Fritos depicting the "Frito Bandito?"  Just this morning, I tossed an empty box of "Mrs. Paul's Crunchy Fish Sticks."  Should I have saved it?  Who knows?  Will some future Mrs. Paul's aficionado one day crave it?  Perhaps?  One would need a literal warehouse to store every bag, can, bottle, and box that gets thrown away - especially here in America.  (A few years ago, I began to save bags of special limited released "M&Ms" - for example, the "Shrek M&Ms" - along with their contents.  I didn't just want the wrappers.  I wanted the different 'swamp colored' "M&Ms," as well.  In the end, though, it just didn't work out.)  Come to think of it, I now have more of an appreciation for Jason and his tremendous efforts.  (It has been whispered in certain circles that he actually purchased a large, abandoned portion of a National Guard complex to hold the vast contents of his collection!  Now that's dedication!)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 14, 2017, 10:01:53 AM
I always thought the actual gum was called Big Daddy!

I would have bet money on it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on May 14, 2017, 10:29:21 AM
This is the first time I posted a title on this thread (so as to keep it going, being there has been a lull) and no, I, personally, don't own examples of products posted here.  Besides "Celestial Seasonings" tea boxes, my small collection of products tends to lean toward those things "strange, poisonous, and dangerous," that is, radium water bottles, laudanum, arsenic, etc. - products that once-upon-a-time could be found in your average household, yet were highly lethal.

To find the "Head and Shoulders" photograph, I just searched online, adding words like "vintage," "seventies," etc. until I came across what I was looking for.  Some products (and information pertaining to them,) though, are notoriously difficult to find.  We tend to toss most packaging in the trash today, and I'm sure in the past it was no different.  For example, how many of us would have thought to keep an empty, greasy bag of Fritos depicting the "Frito Bandito?"  Just this morning, I tossed an empty box of "Mrs. Paul's Crunchy Fish Sticks."  Should I have saved it?  Who knows?  Will some future Mrs. Paul's aficionado one day crave it?  Perhaps?  One would need a literal warehouse to store every bag, can, bottle, and box that gets thrown away - especially here in America.  (A few years ago, I began to save bags of special limited released "M&Ms" - for example, the "Shrek M&Ms" - along with their contents.  I didn't just want the wrappers.  I wanted the different 'swamp colored' "M&Ms," as well.  In the end, though, it just didn't work out.)  Come to think of it, I now have more of an appreciation for Jason and his tremendous efforts.  (It has been whispered in certain circles that he actually purchased a large, abandoned portion of a National Guard complex to hold the vast contents of his collection!  Now that's dedication!)
Ah, the highly effective Google image search, and I imagine Pinterest is a good source too.

Thanks for the feedback, all good points.  I have saved some actual product packaging from ANS titles along the way.  Mostly the later series, and strictly a few favorites whose real-product counterparts have packaging that can be pressed or folded flat.  But, as with anything else, try to be too much of a completist and before you know it, you're renting storage lockers for all the volume that piles up.

Definitely agree there are some parodies whose real product counterparts have not turned up.  Only recently someone found the specific Playskool canister that the Slayskool parody was based on.  It's always fascinating when a discovery like that is made so many years later.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 14, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
I personally do not own any of the packaging. I find the images from various sources online. Many of them from Jason's or other image collections on Flickr, but also from Pinterest, eBay, and even a simple Google search. There are quite a few exact packaging images that still elude me to this day.

I assume you know these pages, but if by chance you haven't seen them, this list might be helpful

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/real_products_text.html#12th

If you enter "real product" and item in the search box, on Greg's site, you can find some OS titles if you can't find them elsewhere

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/crest.html

And there are more recent series posted 

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/2004/real_products.html

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/3rd_2005/


Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 15, 2017, 04:47:38 AM
I assume you know these pages, but if by chance you haven't seen them, this list might be helpful

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/real_products_text.html#12th

If you enter "real product" and item in the search box, on Greg's site, you can find some OS titles if you can't find them elsewhere

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/crest.html

And there are more recent series posted 

http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/2004/real_products.html

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/3rd_2005/

Thanks! Some of those links actually inspired me to complete the task. Sadly, those haven't been updated in a while. My goal is to make this thread the most comprehensive visual guide to real product images. Hopefully I will live long enough to complete it when we get to the 50th anniversary series one day. LOL! Maybe we can rename this thread the Vintage Series Gag Criticism and Variation, and start new threads for ANS and even Old School. I have a lot of images organized in folders already. Just need to post them in threads.

If I haven't mentioned earlier, a big thank you to Jason, Greg, Rusty and all others whose photos have been used here!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 15, 2017, 12:27:13 PM
Series 5 - Achoo


(https://s9.postimg.cc/b7bd7is0b/achoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b7bd7is0b/)

Real Product - Accent


(https://s10.postimg.cc/oiso4semt/accent2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oiso4semt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on May 15, 2017, 02:20:25 PM
Series 5 - Achoo


(https://s9.postimg.org/b7bd7is0b/achoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b7bd7is0b/)

Real Product - Accent


(https://s10.postimg.org/oiso4semt/accent2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oiso4semt/)


This one always seemed like a real stretch to me. I didn't really care for it as a kid and still in the "Meh" column for me now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on May 15, 2017, 04:49:55 PM

This one always seemed like a real stretch to me. I didn't really care for it as a kid and still in the "Meh" column for me now.

I liked this one as a kid, probably because we had the product around the house. Now it brings back fond memories of my Mom trying to spice up dinner, and I still like the tag line Monosodium Gesundheit.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 15, 2017, 05:28:03 PM
Series 5 - Achoo
(https://s9.postimg.org/b7bd7is0b/achoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b7bd7is0b/)

Though not exactly a product I would consider "overly exciting" and/or a "familiar friend" at the table, (such as "Freakies" cereal, for example,) the gag isn't that bad, especially when one considers that sneezing powder was a popular running prank at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: The Collector on May 15, 2017, 06:34:12 PM
Do we have a list of those Wackies that don't have pictures? It would be great for the forum to go on a treasure hunt to find them using google and what ever other source they might have available?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on May 16, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Series 5 - Achoo


(https://s9.postimg.org/b7bd7is0b/achoo_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b7bd7is0b/)

Real Product - Accent


(https://s10.postimg.org/oiso4semt/accent2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oiso4semt/)

I always liked this one, probably because I have allergies, and am always sneezing.  Monosodium Gesundheit still makes me smile.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 16, 2017, 05:53:04 AM
Here's another one...Plopsikle and Popsicle

(https://s14.postimg.org/cysy95k7h/plopsikle_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cysy95k7h/)(https://s29.postimg.org/a185d22w3/Popsicle1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a185d22w3/)

Anyone have a newer packaging Popsicle wrapper than this one? I think this looks like a 1950s or 1960s wrapper.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on May 16, 2017, 07:53:07 AM
Anyone have a newer packaging Popsicle wrapper than this one? I think this looks like a 1950s or 1960s wrapper.
That might be as good as it gets.  Considering that this was merely a paper sleeve, and especially that the inside was essentially a syrupy, sticky mess, it's that much more unlikely that someone would have seen it as an item worth preserving.  I checked the lostwackys site and the best they could do was an image within an advertisement, which looks to be an older example as well.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 16, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
Do we have a list of those Wackies that don't have pictures? It would be great for the forum to go on a treasure hunt to find them using google and what ever other source they might have available?

I'm all for this idea. I suppose we need to go through every page and see which photos we need. There is no list.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 17, 2017, 03:50:53 AM
Nothing says the 1970s like an ugly plaid-like pattern. Hungry Jerk and Hungry Jack...

(https://s2.postimg.org/tx0yi1mat/hungryjerk_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tx0yi1mat/)(https://s1.postimg.org/n4oct4s57/Hungry_Jack.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/n4oct4s57/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 17, 2017, 05:27:22 PM
Nothing says the 1970s like an ugly plaid-like pattern.

Yeah, that and bell-bottom corduroy...

(I had them both.  Some memories are best left forgotten.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 20, 2017, 12:52:47 PM
Here's two for the weekend!

Fatina and Farina...


(https://s12.postimg.org/x0lay17g9/fatina_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x0lay17g9/)(https://s29.postimg.org/khapji8oz/Farina.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/khapji8oz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 20, 2017, 12:53:51 PM
Shot Wheels and Hot Wheels...


(https://s28.postimg.org/usb60c761/shotwheels_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/usb60c761/)(https://s27.postimg.org/k8hjr4jcf/Hot_Wheels.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k8hjr4jcf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on May 20, 2017, 01:22:31 PM
One of the best
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on May 20, 2017, 01:54:30 PM
Here's two for the weekend!

Fatina and Farina...


(https://s12.postimg.org/x0lay17g9/fatina_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x0lay17g9/)(https://s29.postimg.org/khapji8oz/Farina.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/khapji8oz/)

Good gag, funny looking character, and yet still in the middle of the pack for me, probably because I wasn't familiar with the product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 21, 2017, 08:02:21 PM
Good gag, funny looking character, and yet still in the middle of the pack for me, probably because I wasn't familiar with the product.

Funny looking hair on the actual boy, too.  I also had the same type of cut.  It's a small wonder that, coming out of the 70s, I'm not warped more than I am.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on May 28, 2017, 09:02:36 PM
Two for the weekend...

Cram and Spam

(https://s17.postimg.org/7jls4ppp7/cram_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7jls4ppp7/)(https://s22.postimg.org/k5jwb8mtp/Spam2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k5jwb8mtp/)

Pounds and Mounds

(https://s29.postimg.org/vbbe4oq0z/pounds_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vbbe4oq0z/)(https://s14.postimg.org/us0seriwt/Mounds.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/us0seriwt/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on May 29, 2017, 08:08:56 AM
Always like "Cram," but am still somewhat confused.  The phrase "No one will have to cram it down your throat to get you to eat it." seems like it is at odds with the illustration.  Instead, "Someone will have to cram it down your throat..." seems better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on May 29, 2017, 08:23:43 AM
Always like "Cram," but am still somewhat confused.  The phrase "No one will have to cram it down your throat to get you to eat it." seems like it is at odds with the illustration.  Instead, "Someone will have to cram it down your throat..." seems better.

Yep, Cram has great art, but that gag came out backwards.

As for Pounds, I love the art, the gag and the taglines.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 04, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
I was going to post some new image comparisons today, but the Image Uploader isn't working for me!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on June 04, 2017, 12:05:10 PM
Always like "Cram," but am still somewhat confused.  The phrase "No one will have to cram it down your throat to get you to eat it." seems like it is at odds with the illustration.  Instead, "Someone will have to cram it down your throat..." seems better.
Just one of many gags that don't make any sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on June 04, 2017, 05:28:22 PM
Swiski.

I also tried posting "Knuckles" (with your blessing,) but couldn't get anything to work, either.




Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 05, 2017, 06:58:39 PM
Knuckles and Chuckles...

(https://s16.postimg.org/69e6fobfl/knuckles_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/69e6fobfl/)(https://s9.postimg.org/ov9yga24b/Chuckles.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ov9yga24b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 05, 2017, 07:00:13 PM
Cover Ghoul and Cover Girl compared. Here is another real packaging image I cannot find!

(https://s8.postimg.org/4leqxmkzl/coverghoul_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4leqxmkzl/)(https://s17.postimg.org/6kuzngukb/Cover_Girl1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6kuzngukb/)(https://s9.postimg.org/jx7e76xbv/Cover_Girl2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jx7e76xbv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on June 05, 2017, 07:32:29 PM
Offhand, I think this was the best "ugly woman" Wacky.  We used to use Cover Ghoul as an insult.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on June 07, 2017, 09:39:01 AM
Knuckles and Chuckles...

(https://s16.postimg.org/69e6fobfl/knuckles_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/69e6fobfl/)(https://s9.postimg.org/ov9yga24b/Chuckles.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ov9yga24b/)

I have always liked this title - and "Boozo," as well.  Not sure why, but something about different colored candy lined up in a row appeals to me.  Those little, wax bottles with the colored juice inside, that sort of thing.  Perhaps it's in owning the entire set all wrapped up in one convenient package?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on June 07, 2017, 10:39:38 AM
Always like these title - and "Boozo."  Not sure why, but something about different colored candy lined up in a row appeals to me.  Those little, wax bottles with the colored juice inside, that sort of thing.  Perhaps it's in owning the entire set all wrapped up in one convenient package?
One of my all time favorites.  Loved the candy making it that more appealing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 09, 2017, 07:33:14 AM
A couple Sunshine parodies for the weekend!

Krazy and Krispy..

(https://s14.postimg.org/kfhh4f52l/krazy_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kfhh4f52l/)(https://s9.postimg.org/41gt9ii0b/Krispy_crackers1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41gt9ii0b/)

Ha Ha and Hi Ho...

(https://s13.postimg.org/6j665hjhv/haha_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6j665hjhv/)(https://s16.postimg.org/spkwtlk29/Hi_Ho_Crackers.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/spkwtlk29/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on June 09, 2017, 08:40:39 AM
A couple Sunshine parodies for the weekend!

Krazy and Krispy..

(https://s14.postimg.org/kfhh4f52l/krazy_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kfhh4f52l/)(https://s9.postimg.org/41gt9ii0b/Krispy_crackers1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/41gt9ii0b/)

Ha Ha and Hi Ho...

(https://s13.postimg.org/6j665hjhv/haha_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6j665hjhv/)(https://s16.postimg.org/spkwtlk29/Hi_Ho_Crackers.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/spkwtlk29/)

We were a RITS and PREMIUM family but still always enjoyed these two titles. "Packed in Straight Jackets" and "Made on the Funny Farm" are great gags. Are all crackers insane or just those made by Sunshine?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 09, 2017, 01:09:06 PM
We were a RITS and PREMIUM family but still always enjoyed these two titles. "Packed in Straight Jackets" and "Made on the Funny Farm" are great gags. Are all crackers insane or just those made by Sunshine?

Ha - I never realized both gags for Sunshine are almost identical - insanity theme!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 23, 2017, 12:26:19 PM
Since I fell behind, here are 3 for the weekend...

Sicken of the Sea and Chicken of the Sea
(https://s16.postimg.org/ltw4k4cnl/sicken_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ltw4k4cnl/)(https://s22.postimg.org/t59363s0d/Chicken_of_the_Sea2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t59363s0d/)

Clank and Clark
(https://s16.postimg.org/c82k3tlht/clank_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c82k3tlht/)(https://s29.postimg.org/8sfjf122b/Clark2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8sfjf122b/)

Smith Sisters and Smith Brothers
(https://s16.postimg.org/3sczmbimp/smithsisters_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3sczmbimp/)(https://s18.postimg.org/mn6svwxvp/Smith_Brothers.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mn6svwxvp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on June 23, 2017, 07:19:08 PM
I always liked the character on clank bar. Wish there was more real estate on the package to make him bigger.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 26, 2017, 03:45:34 PM
I always liked the character on clank bar. Wish there was more real estate on the package to make him bigger.

Yep, I like like how he is trying to pull the K in Clank!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on June 26, 2017, 03:47:06 PM
Since I fell behind, here are 3 for the weekend...

Sicken of the Sea and Chicken of the Sea
(https://s16.postimg.org/ltw4k4cnl/sicken_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ltw4k4cnl/)(https://s22.postimg.org/t59363s0d/Chicken_of_the_Sea2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/t59363s0d/)

Clank and Clark
(https://s16.postimg.org/c82k3tlht/clank_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c82k3tlht/)(https://s29.postimg.org/8sfjf122b/Clark2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8sfjf122b/)

Smith Sisters and Smith Brothers
(https://s16.postimg.org/3sczmbimp/smithsisters_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3sczmbimp/)(https://s18.postimg.org/mn6svwxvp/Smith_Brothers.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mn6svwxvp/)

Was there ever a Chicken of the Sea can where the oval behind the title was red? Didn't find anything like that in my research.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on June 26, 2017, 04:37:16 PM
Was there ever a Chicken of the Sea can where the oval behind the title was red? Didn't find anything like that in my research.

I haven't found any with a red oval either.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 05, 2017, 05:21:49 PM
Glutton


(https://s11.postimg.org/d9isc3rrj/Scan_20170705_2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/d9isc3rrj/)


(https://s24.postimg.org/9k8dmrg6p/gulden.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9k8dmrg6p/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 07, 2017, 03:18:56 PM
Glutton


(https://s11.postimg.org/d9isc3rrj/Scan_20170705_2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/d9isc3rrj/)


(https://s24.postimg.org/9k8dmrg6p/gulden.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9k8dmrg6p/)

A perfect match...and I like your animated avatar!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 07, 2017, 03:22:50 PM
These next two are incredibly tough to find accurate real packaging images for, but I attached the products being spoofed at least.

Stifford's and Stafford's
(https://s22.postimg.org/offfpj431/stiffords_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/offfpj431/)(https://s12.postimg.org/ovtxv33jd/Staffords1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ovtxv33jd/)

Slayex and Playtex
(https://s3.postimg.org/pbzeq981r/slaytex_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pbzeq981r/)(https://s17.postimg.org/58rn2mmmz/Playtex_gloves.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/58rn2mmmz/)(https://s17.postimg.org/3v007bndn/Playtex_gloves2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3v007bndn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 07, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
A perfect match...and I like your animated avatar!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on July 07, 2017, 04:27:27 PM
Glutton


(https://s11.postimg.org/d9isc3rrj/Scan_20170705_2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/d9isc3rrj/)


(https://s24.postimg.org/9k8dmrg6p/gulden.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9k8dmrg6p/)

Never a favorite of mine, but better than some.  At least they managed to add a funny character!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 08, 2017, 04:49:24 AM
Chumps


(https://s17.postimg.org/gdljs61kr/chumps_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gdljs61kr/)


(https://s18.postimg.org/3zfjf5ydh/charmscandy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3zfjf5ydh/)

One of my favorite 5th series titles.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on July 08, 2017, 06:37:56 AM
Chumps


(https://s17.postimg.org/gdljs61kr/chumps_front_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gdljs61kr/)


(https://s18.postimg.org/3zfjf5ydh/charmscandy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3zfjf5ydh/)

One of my favorite 5th series titles.

I remember pulling this sticker from a pack, and laughing myself silly.  Funny faces, great gag, and it looked so similar to the candy package at the drug store counter.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: koduck on July 08, 2017, 08:30:43 AM
I remember pulling this sticker from a pack, and laughing myself silly.  Funny faces, great gag, and it looked so similar to the candy package at the drug store counter.

Do they still make Charms candy?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 08, 2017, 08:31:37 AM
Do they still make Charms candy?

Yes.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on July 08, 2017, 07:17:51 PM
Yes.
And I believe the wrapper is still the same.  But I've only seen them in one store in NYC that specializes in nostalgic candy. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 09, 2017, 06:05:39 AM
Graft Cheese and Kraft Cheese...

(https://s24.postimg.org/r7az0l0qp/graft_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r7az0l0qp/)(https://s4.postimg.org/hn44b5zh5/Kraft_Swiss_Cheese1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hn44b5zh5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on July 09, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
Graft Cheese and Kraft Cheese...

(https://s24.postimg.org/r7az0l0qp/graft_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r7az0l0qp/)(https://s4.postimg.org/hn44b5zh5/Kraft_Swiss_Cheese1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hn44b5zh5/)

Kind of a low key Wacky, with no character, but I always really liked this one because of the bullet holes. Very clever.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on July 09, 2017, 06:06:53 PM
Yet loaded with taglines (especially when compared to other titles in the original series.)  Somebody - Jay, perhaps? - was really getting into the word play.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on July 09, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
Kind of a low key Wacky, with no character, but I always really liked this one because of the bullet holes. Very clever.
Much like the marriage of Wackys with monster characters, I've always loved the titles in which bullets and bullet holes figure prominently.  Shots, ShotTissue, Graft, and Slayer Aspirin have always been favorites of mine.  Don't know what it is about Wackys and bullets, but they just seem to work together.  And, as mentioned, an added character doesn't seem to be necessary.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on July 10, 2017, 02:16:24 AM
Graft Cheese and Kraft Cheese...

(https://s24.postimg.org/r7az0l0qp/graft_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r7az0l0qp/)(https://s4.postimg.org/hn44b5zh5/Kraft_Swiss_Cheese1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hn44b5zh5/)

I like how the "Graft" logo was reshaped as a bullet, and they certainly captured the packaging.  But, I find the gag and various taglines confusing - how does graft relate to a game warden, or shooting cowards?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 10, 2017, 02:44:01 AM
I like how the "Graft" logo was reshaped as a bullet, and they certainly captured the packaging.  But, I find the gag and various taglines confusing - how does graft relate to a game warden, or shooting cowards?

Personally I think the "Shot Full of Holes" and "Approved by Game Wardens" need switched to really capture the packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 10, 2017, 05:09:20 AM
I like how the "Graft" logo was reshaped as a bullet, and they certainly captured the packaging.  But, I find the gag and various taglines confusing - how does graft relate to a game warden, or shooting cowards?
always liked this one as well, but agree, the gags are rather scattershot
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on July 10, 2017, 08:29:51 AM
always liked this one as well, but agree, the gags are rather scattershot

True, the gags could be tighter thematically, though there is a loose "bullet" association.  Like "Contrac," etc., many of the earlier WP drew inspiration from the days when corrupt politicians and Tommy Gun wielding gangsters were bedfellows.  Seen in this light, I would speculate that "graft" was intended to be synonymous with "corruption," and that if somebody involved with mob related activities was considered "yellow," they were seen as a deficit and quickly eliminated.  "Game warden," though, is a bit of a stretch and an odd choice.  (I suppose we'll never really know, but it would be interesting to discover the rationale behind the gags - such as if they were inspired by an old "B" gangster movie, one of hundreds that are now lost and buried in history.)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: DrSushi on July 10, 2017, 04:44:10 PM
always liked this one as well, but agree, the gags are rather scattershot

Yes, they are of varying caliber.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 13, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
Yes, they are of varying caliber.

Sometimes they just don't hit the primer.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 19, 2017, 05:06:20 AM
Finishing off the 5th series...

Triks and Trix
(https://s23.postimg.org/q1fp9t2iv/triks_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/q1fp9t2iv/)(https://s9.postimg.org/urmbgdzkr/Trix.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/urmbgdzkr/)

Shots and Dots
(https://s2.postimg.org/lmcrgp6ed/shots_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lmcrgp6ed/)(https://s12.postimg.org/5ig7qywjt/Dots1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ig7qywjt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 19, 2017, 07:34:31 AM
Everything about Shots is pretty good. Triks is a very memorable and one of the better wackies because of the Trix rabbit, but the gags aren't very corresponding to the box. (Unless a different box is more like it.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: freetoes on July 19, 2017, 04:12:27 PM
The artwork on both is dead-on.  The Triks rabbit is virtually identical to the real thing; and except for the wording, Shots required almost no changes from the original design.

A bit of trivia on Chumps:  I have it Tied with Armor and Taster's Choke for the lowest word count in the original 16.  Even counting "Chumps" twice, there are five.  (This is counting the 100% on Taster's Choke as one word.)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 19, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
I personally think "100%" shouldn't be considered a word, but eh.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 23, 2017, 06:08:35 AM
Onto the 6th Series!

Mold Rush and Gold Rush...


(https://s4.postimg.org/f2v8c9289/moldrush_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f2v8c9289/)(https://s12.postimg.org/tva52oq09/Gold_Rush_Bubble_Gum.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tva52oq09/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 23, 2017, 06:12:48 AM
Never was a fan of Mold Rush. The packaging didn't give much room for a gag, but the change from "Gold" to "Mold" is a good one. The reason this card is a standout for me is probably because I'm always looking for a centered one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on July 23, 2017, 07:29:57 AM
Onto the 6th Series!

Mold Rush and Gold Rush...


(https://s4.postimg.org/f2v8c9289/moldrush_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f2v8c9289/)(https://s12.postimg.org/tva52oq09/Gold_Rush_Bubble_Gum.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tva52oq09/)

I loved this one, as it was a good gag, and so well matched something I also bought at the time, and it had dopey faces.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: MoldRush on July 23, 2017, 08:30:42 PM
I loved this one, as it was a good gag, and so well matched something I also bought at the time, and it had dopey faces.
Agree, this one scores high on product familiarity.  I was highly addicted to sugary bubble gums back then, and those little drawstring pouches were a mainstay.  Post-OS Wackys my addiction kicked up a notch when Bazooka Joe introduced the massive pack-sized slabs of gum sandwiched between two cards containing enlarged versions of the wax paper comics.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Tom Keen on July 24, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
I loved this one, as it was a good gag, and so well matched something I also bought at the time, and it had dopey faces.
Is this a 0% Saunders piece?  The original product packaging is boring so the wacky was destined to be too but it seems the wacky packaging is even more bland.  I do like the gag and the product is very recognizable so that helps!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 24, 2017, 09:11:46 PM
Piwi and Kiwi...

(https://s22.postimg.org/yt4s2bpml/piwi_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yt4s2bpml/)(https://s11.postimg.org/m9y6jinbj/Kiwi_Polish.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m9y6jinbj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on July 25, 2017, 03:33:46 AM
Piwi and Kiwi...

(https://s22.postimg.org/yt4s2bpml/piwi_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yt4s2bpml/)(https://s11.postimg.org/m9y6jinbj/Kiwi_Polish.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m9y6jinbj/)

Probably one that couldn't be released today. Not sure why pygmies get so muddy, but a nice simple Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 26, 2017, 03:09:34 PM
Series 6 : #3

Eviltime vs. Ovaltine

(https://s18.postimg.cc/z2d0gwxt1/eviltime.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z2d0gwxt1/)
(https://s21.postimg.cc/oq0tilx0z/Ovaltine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oq0tilx0z/)

Be sure to drink your ovaltine!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 26, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
I found a nice Ovaltine packaging...
(https://s11.postimg.org/bok91wbhb/Ovaltine.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bok91wbhb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 26, 2017, 03:21:20 PM
fantastically rendered title.
only thing 'off' is the Chokolate Flavor - it doesn't tie in with the gag. Maybe Coven, Eye of Newt, or something at least vaguely related to potions or witchcraft.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on July 26, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
fantastically rendered title.
only thing 'off' is the Chokolate Flavor - it doesn't tie in with the gag. Maybe Coven, Eye of Newt, or something at least vaguely related to potions or witchcraft.

I agree.  Great title.

Perhaps "Occult" or "Supernatural" flavor?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Gurgle on July 26, 2017, 09:50:56 PM
"Chokelate" works fine for me. Looks like pretty disgusting witches brew (which should probably be "witches' brew" or "witch's brew.")


fantastically rendered title.
only thing 'off' is the Chokolate Flavor - it doesn't tie in with the gag. Maybe Coven, Eye of Newt, or something at least vaguely related to potions or witchcraft.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: sco(o)t on July 27, 2017, 03:36:18 AM
Or, perhaps, Choke-a-lot. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: RawGoo on July 27, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
I always liked this one, and still think about it when I watch the movie "A Christmas Story."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: bandaches on July 27, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
Series 6 : #3

Eviltime vs. Ovaltine

(https://s18.postimg.org/z2d0gwxt1/eviltime.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z2d0gwxt1/)
(https://s21.postimg.org/oq0tilx0z/Ovaltine.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oq0tilx0z/)

Be sure to drink your ovaltine!
Love the art on this, not enough bright purple in wackys!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Baked Bears on July 27, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Love the art on this, not enough bright purple in wackys!

Very observant and true.  Purple does tend to be lacking in Wackys.  (But then and again, I suppose it's lacking in a lot of packaging.) 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: JasonLiebig on July 28, 2017, 12:20:17 AM
Somehow I've never visited this thread.  I thought it was about gag criticism....

As someone who has spent a LOT of time tracking down, archiving and sharing scans of my original Wacky Packages product pieces, seeing so many of my scans liberally downloaded, repurposed and reposted here, I'm more than a little bummed out....

We already have a thread dedicated to Wacky Packages Original product images, don't we?  One which I was pretty active on: 

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=163.msg78740#msg78740

How did "Gag criticism and variation" turn into an original product images thread?   Sigh...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 28, 2017, 04:19:43 AM
Somehow I've never visited this thread.  I thought it was about gag criticism....

As someone who has spent a LOT of time tracking down, archiving and sharing scans of my original Wacky Packages product pieces, seeing so many of my scans liberally downloaded, repurposed and reposted here, I'm more than a little bummed out....

We already have a thread dedicated to Wacky Packages Original product images, don't we?  One which I was pretty active on: 

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=163.msg78740#msg78740

How did "Gag criticism and variation" turn into an original product images thread?   Sigh...

The images are used for reference and to make gags that work better with the actual packaging. Did you not see the discussion up there about chokelate?

Also, the last post was March 7, 2016 so not every active...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Swiski on July 28, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
Somehow I've never visited this thread.  I thought it was about gag criticism....

As someone who has spent a LOT of time tracking down, archiving and sharing scans of my original Wacky Packages product pieces, seeing so many of my scans liberally downloaded, repurposed and reposted here, I'm more than a little bummed out....

We already have a thread dedicated to Wacky Packages Original product images, don't we?  One which I was pretty active on: 

http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=163.msg78740#msg78740

How did "Gag criticism and variation" turn into an original product images thread?   Sigh...

Hi Jason. No disrespect to you or your image collection. Nobody profits from the use of your photos. I believe a few pages back I gave you and others credit for your rare original packaging images. They are truly appreciated here!

That Wacky Packages Original Product Images thread has been outdated for quite some time. This thread is a fresh revamp, starting from scratch in chronological order of the series. Showing comparison images of the actual products helps in the criticism process, determining if the artist nailed the parody or took too many creative liberties.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 28, 2017, 01:41:36 PM
Series 6 : #4

Sugar Daffy vs. Sugar Daddy

(https://s17.postimg.cc/kfyufv3cb/sugardaffy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kfyufv3cb/)

(https://s12.postimg.cc/kvq6wzc09/sugardaddy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kvq6wzc09/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 30, 2017, 05:55:21 AM
Series 6 : #4

Sugar Daffy vs. Sugar Daddy

(https://s17.postimg.org/kfyufv3cb/sugardaffy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kfyufv3cb/)

(https://s12.postimg.org/kvq6wzc09/sugardaddy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/kvq6wzc09/)

I like the guy in the straight jacket! He belongs with the guys on the Sunshine cracker parodies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 30, 2017, 05:56:53 AM
Run-A-Way and One-A-Day...

(https://s3.postimg.org/yc6u6dien/runaway_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yc6u6dien/)(https://s11.postimg.org/9y0c8vzrz/One-_A-_Day.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9y0c8vzrz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 30, 2017, 08:23:08 AM
Run-A-Way and One-A-Day...

(https://s3.postimg.org/yc6u6dien/runaway_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yc6u6dien/)(https://s11.postimg.org/9y0c8vzrz/One-_A-_Day.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9y0c8vzrz/)

One of my top 20 favorite Wackies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 30, 2017, 10:36:27 AM
I second that! I started collecting with the original series 6... Run-A-Way and Eviltime are two of my all time favs. Bit monsters and beautifully painted. Iconic Packages too. These both help o make the original series 6 my 'Catcher in the Rye'... I can't say no to picking it up again and again when I see a good deal on eBay. Sigh.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 30, 2017, 10:37:10 AM
Always like Wacky products containing a family of meanies.

Notice, also, the non-threaded stopper - and the medicine bottle itself made out of real glass.  Blast from a long ago, yet not quite forgotten, past.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 01, 2017, 05:46:32 AM
Series 6 #5:

Fruit of the Tomb vs. Fruit of the Loom

(https://s4.postimg.cc/j8u4kzbzt/fruitofthetomb.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j8u4kzbzt/)

(https://s3.postimg.cc/7syu7iggf/fruitoftheloom.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7syu7iggf/)

...and how about this?

(https://s2.postimg.cc/v5iafuno5/fruitloons.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/v5iafuno5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 02, 2017, 05:22:30 AM
Truant and True cigarettes...

(https://s3.postimg.org/3jsfrc1rj/truant_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3jsfrc1rj/)(https://s2.postimg.org/pq0a6bb5h/True.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/pq0a6bb5h/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 03, 2017, 04:38:51 AM
Truant and True cigarettes...

(https://s3.postimg.org/3jsfrc1rj/truant_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3jsfrc1rj/)(https://s2.postimg.org/pq0a6bb5h/True.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/pq0a6bb5h/)

6th series ain't getting too much attention. Truant is a great card though, the color contrast is very attractive if it's glossy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 03, 2017, 04:50:57 AM
Truant and True cigarettes...

(https://s3.postimg.org/3jsfrc1rj/truant_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3jsfrc1rj/)(https://s2.postimg.org/pq0a6bb5h/True.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/pq0a6bb5h/)

I think this is a great gag, with funny taglines and a good character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 03, 2017, 11:27:05 AM
This was a great one because it really spoke to its grade school collector base... the pencils are beautifully painted. The Wacky's that joked about kids and school really made it feel like these were made for kids (me at that time). School was the main world we lived in, so parodies involving that known world felt like they really were made for me personally.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on August 03, 2017, 12:03:33 PM
This was a great one because it really spoke to its grade school collector base... the pencils are beautifully painted. The Wacky's that joked about kids and school really made it feel like these were made for kids (me at that time). School was the main world we lived in, so parodies involving that known world felt like they really were made for me personally.

I vote we rename the Truant kid "Smokin' Joe"!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 03, 2017, 03:01:41 PM
I vote we rename the Truant kid "Smokin' Joe"!

I second that!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 03, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
I second that!

That's cool....though he has kind of already been named Tommy Truant :)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 06, 2017, 08:13:24 PM
Play-Dumb and Play-Doh...

(https://s1.postimg.org/g26y51amz/playdumb_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/g26y51amz/)(https://s2.postimg.org/uvt4ryvmd/Play-_Doh2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/uvt4ryvmd/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 07, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
Always wondered why the can looks like a sealed metal can (like canned food) without the plastic lid.  Is that how they were made - you would have to initially cut the top open with a can opener, then use the plastic lid once it's been opened?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 07, 2017, 06:40:15 PM
Always wondered why the can looks like a sealed metal can (like canned food) without the plastic lid.  Is that how they were made - you would have to initially cut the top open with a can opener, then use the plastic lid once it's been opened?
They did used to have metal lids. But they weren't sealed like canned goods. It just a lid on the top, very much like the current plastic lid. Just pry it easily off, then a little pressure to put it back on.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 07, 2017, 07:25:08 PM
They did used to have metal lids. But they weren't sealed like canned goods. It just a lid on the top, very much like the current plastic lid. Just pry it easily off, then a little pressure to put it back on.

Wow, you're absolutely right, Patrick.  I remember that now.  If you hadn't mentioned it, I would have completely forgotten such was the case.  And the metal lids worked well, too, for the most part, unless somehow over time one managed to mangle up the cardboard rim of the canister.

I always like the inclusion of "The Thinker" in this parody.  Small detail, yet nice contrast.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 08, 2017, 09:13:34 PM
Lets get it over with...Blisterine and Listerine...

(https://s1.postimg.org/avnjmwpcr/blisterine_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/avnjmwpcr/)(https://s2.postimg.org/c5zxmzff9/Listerine.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c5zxmzff9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 08, 2017, 10:42:29 PM

     (https://s1.postimg.org/avnjmwpcr/blisterine_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/avnjmwpcr/)

The "Monster Mouthwash" gag doesn't really wash, as there is no monster shown.

I'm not sure I've ever noticed there's a fire hose on the perimeter of the label.

I especially think the fiery mouthwash artwork is great!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 09, 2017, 02:25:54 AM
Good point about the fiery artwork.  It infuses some color and energy into an otherwise very bland-looking product.  If I remember correctly, back then Scope came in minty flavors, but Listerine was only made in that one neutral, medicinal-tasting, faint off-yellow color.  Yuck.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 09, 2017, 09:17:24 PM
Super Cigar Crisp and Super Sugar Crisp. Real packaging box photo is from the collection of Jason Liebig on Flickr.

(https://s27.postimg.org/pkrs8mwv3/supercigarcrisp_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pkrs8mwv3/)(https://s27.postimg.org/dsh2n7m8v/Super_Sugar_Crisp.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dsh2n7m8v/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on August 10, 2017, 02:58:39 AM
One of the greatest Wacky's of all time in my opinion. It's just great!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 10, 2017, 03:02:00 AM
Super Cigar Crisp and Super Sugar Crisp. Real packaging box photo is from the collection of Jason Liebig on Flickr.

(https://s27.postimg.org/pkrs8mwv3/supercigarcrisp_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pkrs8mwv3/)(https://s27.postimg.org/dsh2n7m8v/Super_Sugar_Crisp.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dsh2n7m8v/)

This is a fantastic Wacky!  Good gag, fantastic package art.  Another product I still think of by the Wacky title.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 10, 2017, 08:57:57 PM
Airraid and Arrid...

(https://s28.postimg.org/jpus7fk3t/airraid_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jpus7fk3t/)(https://s27.postimg.org/gpxdha8m7/Arrid1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gpxdha8m7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 25, 2017, 08:58:42 AM
Man...I really fell behind! Here is Peter Pain vs Peter Pan...


(https://s28.postimg.org/z60ux31o9/peterpain_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z60ux31o9/)(https://s28.postimg.org/xs981s2ex/Peter_Pan1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xs981s2ex/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 25, 2017, 09:37:12 AM
Man...I really fell behind! Here is Peter Pain vs Peter Pan...


(https://s28.postimg.org/z60ux31o9/peterpain_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z60ux31o9/)(https://s28.postimg.org/xs981s2ex/Peter_Pan1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xs981s2ex/)

Like this one, though I was always more of a "Skimpy" fan.  Don't know how all of the "monkey business" came to be originally integrated into it, however, I believe the gag might have been stronger if a Peter Pan monkey was substituted for the human boy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 25, 2017, 10:36:36 AM
Like this one, though I was always more of a "Skimpy" fan.  Don't know how all of the "monkey business" came to be originally integrated into it, however, I believe the gag might have been stronger if a Peter Pan monkey was substituted for the human boy.

With the "pain" gag, why didn't the joke revolve around sharp peanut shells in the peanut butter?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 25, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
With the "pain" gag, why didn't the joke revolve around sharp peanut shells in the peanut butter?

Good point.  Another "Wacky" mystery that will probably never be solved.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 27, 2017, 08:58:37 AM
Generally Demented vs. General Electric bulbs. The GE photo is actually a tin promo item where you push that button on the front and a lightbulb with a face on it springs up from the top lid. But you get the idea!
(https://s2.postimg.org/rsucsnsxh/softhead_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rsucsnsxh/)(https://s2.postimg.org/x6t507inp/GE_Bulb2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x6t507inp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 30, 2017, 05:29:21 AM
No love for lightbulbs? How about some noodles?

Goonman's vs Goodman's

(https://s26.postimg.org/3kz3hkmg5/goonmans_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3kz3hkmg5/)(https://s26.postimg.org/rd8et3oh1/Goodman_s.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rd8et3oh1/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 31, 2017, 03:14:46 AM
Generally Demented vs. General Electric bulbs. The GE photo is actually a tin promo item where you push that button on the front and a lightbulb with a face on it springs up from the top lid. But you get the idea!
(https://s2.postimg.org/rsucsnsxh/softhead_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rsucsnsxh/)(https://s2.postimg.org/x6t507inp/GE_Bulb2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x6t507inp/)

I really like Generally Demented.  The "dim lights for dimwits" tag line is funny, and there's something about that face that makes me smile.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 31, 2017, 09:52:42 AM
I really like Generally Demented.  The "dim lights for dimwits" tag line is funny, and there's something about that face that makes me smile.

I like the calm face too...almost Gene Wilderish
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 31, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
I really like Generally Demented.  The "dim lights for dimwits" tag line is funny, and there's something about that face that makes me smile.
I like the art now, but the name change was too big a departure for me as a kid and I didn't care for it back then. Something like 'Generally Eccentric' would work better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 31, 2017, 03:39:54 PM
I like the art now, but the name change was too big a departure for me as a kid and I didn't care for it back then. Something like 'Generally Eccentric' would work better.

I agree.  "Generally Eccentric" does work better - and still ties in perfectly.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 31, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
I like the calm face too...almost Gene Wilderish

Never noticed that before.  It is Gene Wilderish (may he rest in peace.)  Good observation.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on August 31, 2017, 04:08:50 PM
I think it was the corrugated box that sold me on Generally Demented.

Super Cigar Crisp, Airraid and Peter Pain are spot-on.  The first of these is listed as almost definitely non-Saunders, with the other two debatable.  But the artwork is as dead-on as anything in the Original 16.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 31, 2017, 06:41:03 PM
Never noticed that before.  It is Gene Wilderish (may he rest in peace.)  Good observation.
I believe that face is the likeness of an actual person - Harvey Kurtzman, creator or co-creator (not sure) of Mad magazine.  I think Jay pointed that out once.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 10, 2017, 07:02:38 AM
Time for a new one...Monotony and Monopoly

(https://s26.postimg.org/vc1cowf8l/monotony_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vc1cowf8l/)(https://s26.postimg.org/vdbaibh2d/Monopoly.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vdbaibh2d/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 10, 2017, 07:31:17 AM
Time for a new one...Monotony and Monopoly

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vc1cowf8l/monotony_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vc1cowf8l/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/vdbaibh2d/Monopoly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vdbaibh2d/)


Not exactly the most dynamic, yet does follow the original product faithfully.  All of the taglines and gags are tight and unified.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on September 10, 2017, 07:39:49 AM

Not exactly the most dynamic, yet does follow the original product faithfully.  All of the taglines and gags are tight and unified.

Agreed. This one gets an "A" for parody. Unfortunately, not much on the original product to lend to outstanding illustration. I do like the way railroad engines become beds on the Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on September 10, 2017, 07:47:32 AM
Time for a new one...Monotony and Monopoly

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vc1cowf8l/monotony_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vc1cowf8l/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/vdbaibh2d/Monopoly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vdbaibh2d/)
Always loved this one.  The gag is perfect since the game can really be pretty monotonous!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 10, 2017, 08:04:40 AM
The gag is perfect since the game can really be pretty monotonous!

Yeah, especially when you're losing, have no chance whatsoever of making a comeback - and the game continues on for another two hours!

(Perhaps Quentin Tarantino could make "Monopoly" into a movie, kind of a mash-up between "Monopoly" and "Reservoir Dogs," featuring a gang of hoods holed-up in some backroom whiling away the time with a board game?  Various back stories could unfold in the dialogue, revealing the shortcomings, failures, and regrets of the characters.  Bound by an unwritten code, nobody is permitted to leave.  "Shaddup!  Just sit down and playing the &%$#ing game!"  All the while, the tension would continue to escalate and escalate as one character slowly rises above the others to become "tycoon."  Of course, we all know how just such a scenario would end: a pistol pressed against someone's temple as they are ordered to roll the dice, the little Scottie dog getting blown off of the playing board, etc..)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on September 10, 2017, 09:05:13 AM
Quote
Monotony and Monopoly
As has been mentioned, not an outstanding piece of artwork [not much to work with], but nonetheless, one of Series 6 which I recall most fondly. Always thought it was very humorous and looked just like the real product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 10, 2017, 10:23:35 AM
Time for a new one...Monotony and Monopoly

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vc1cowf8l/monotony_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vc1cowf8l/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/vdbaibh2d/Monopoly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vdbaibh2d/)

I always liked this one.  The title is appropriate, if you've ever been in an hours long game, and the guy falling asleep is pretty funny!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 12, 2017, 05:17:07 AM
Baby Runt and Baby Ruth. The wrapper photo is from the collection of either Greg Koenig or Jason Liebig.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vwuecgf51/babyrunt_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vwuecgf51/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/ct12w42at/Baby_Ruth.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ct12w42at/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2017, 05:27:57 AM
Baby Runt and Baby Ruth. The wrapper photo is from the collection of either Greg Koenig or Jason Liebig.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vwuecgf51/babyrunt_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vwuecgf51/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/ct12w42at/Baby_Ruth.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ct12w42at/)

When I see the artwork for Baby Runt, I'm reminded of Caddyshack when Bill Murray's character finds a candy bar in the pool. You know the scene!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2017, 05:30:33 AM
Valveater and Velveeta. I think the guy on Valveater is the very first punk rocker!

(https://s26.postimg.cc/6o0feu7xh/valveater_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6o0feu7xh/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/4m4jebzc5/Velveeta.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4m4jebzc5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 25, 2017, 05:21:08 AM
I'd hate to see this thread disappear, so I will continue posting parody and real product comparisons.
Here is the next in checklist order from the vintage 6th Series...Snarlamint and Parliament.
I love horror Wackies! Love how they made the V shape into a bat. Don't understand why the parody isn't Snarlament with the e.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/ujqnsikrp/snarlamint_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ujqnsikrp/)(https://s26.postimg.cc/b35y5zpnp/Parliament.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b35y5zpnp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 25, 2017, 05:41:19 AM
I'd hate to see this thread disappear, so I will continue posting parody and real product comparisons.
Here is the next in checklist order from the vintage 6th Series...Snarlamint and Parliament.
I love horror Wackies! Love how they made the V shape into a bat. Don't understand why the parody isn't Snarlament with the e.

(https://s26.postimg.org/ujqnsikrp/snarlamint_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ujqnsikrp/)(https://s26.postimg.org/b35y5zpnp/Parliament.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b35y5zpnp/)

I always kind of liked this one as a kid.  Fiends and monsters, and a good representation of the actual product. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 28, 2017, 03:19:34 PM
My Sin vs My Sink
(https://s8.postimg.cc/h5dg9zin5/mysink.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h5dg9zin5/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/cjhc1n4tt/mysin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cjhc1n4tt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 28, 2017, 03:30:19 PM
that piece is a true work of art, even more so when it has the Mona Lisa inside.

(https://s33.postimg.org/uh255b04v/mona_mysink.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on November 28, 2017, 05:22:18 PM
that piece is a true work of art, even more so when it has the Mona Lisa inside.

(https://s33.postimg.org/uh255b04v/mona_mysink.jpg)

These liquid filled Wackys are some of my favorites.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 28, 2017, 07:40:09 PM
Thanks for reviving this thread.  The real products angle, from OS thru ANS and OLDS, has been a more dominant aspect of my Wacky enthusiasm of late.

The My Sink parody was always a mystery to me, as I was completely unfamiliar with this square bottle product.  Can't remember if I first saw it in the Reissue era or OS6, but it has always reminded me of that Little Rascals episode where the kids try to bake a cake in a big deep square container, and they start just recklessly throwing all kinds of shit in there - a belt, a shoe, etc.  "everything but the kitchen sink."  Weep . . . Wowwww!!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 29, 2017, 02:04:24 AM
My Sin vs My Sink
(https://s8.postimg.org/h5dg9zin5/mysink.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h5dg9zin5/)

(https://s8.postimg.org/cjhc1n4tt/mysin.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cjhc1n4tt/)

One of my all time favorites, and another product I still call by the Wacky name.  The bottle is magnificent!  Love the stuff floating around inside, and the nauseous looking fish.  Great gag and taglines, and the faucet on the lid is the crowning touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 29, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Someone once coined the phrase "flotsam and Jetsam" for the liquid wackies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 30, 2017, 03:18:38 PM
Cut-Rong and Cut-Rite...

(https://s17.postimg.cc/fro9e86cb/cutrong_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fro9e86cb/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/onz1hvml7/Cut-_Rite_Wax_Paper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/onz1hvml7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on November 30, 2017, 03:26:07 PM
Not going to lie, but there's nothing too special about this one.

...well I do like the paper.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 01, 2017, 01:42:07 AM
Cut-Rong and Cut-Rite...

(https://s17.postimg.org/fro9e86cb/cutrong_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fro9e86cb/)(https://s17.postimg.org/onz1hvml7/Cut-_Rite_Wax_Paper.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/onz1hvml7/)

Decent gag, and a really good rendering of the box.  I remember sticking this on the box under our kitchen sink.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 01, 2017, 04:49:12 AM
Scare Deal and Square Deal Composition Note Books...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/4vjjwjdh7/scaredeal_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4vjjwjdh7/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/r7hcpy7gb/Square_Deal_notebook.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r7hcpy7gb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 01, 2017, 06:03:13 PM
Ah!  This was one of my favorites! 

Always liked the worms, too!

Never cared that much for the actual composition book itself  - What ten year old would? - save for the fact that my friends and I would stick our Wackys on the covers.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on December 01, 2017, 06:47:33 PM



Never cared that much for the actual composition book itself 

You are right, in more ways than 1. The square deal was awful at tearing pages out of.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 01, 2017, 07:13:05 PM
What Mans and Whitman's Sampler...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/dueo6p44b/whatmans_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dueo6p44b/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/tsndwulhn/Whitman_s_Sampler.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tsndwulhn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 02, 2017, 03:44:52 AM
Scare Deal and Square Deal Composition Note Books...


(https://s17.postimg.org/4vjjwjdh7/scaredeal_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4vjjwjdh7/)(https://s17.postimg.org/r7hcpy7gb/Square_Deal_notebook.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/r7hcpy7gb/)

I always found this one funny, and stuck my extras on my marble notebooks.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 02, 2017, 03:49:45 AM
What Mans and Whitman's Sampler...


(https://s17.postimg.org/dueo6p44b/whatmans_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dueo6p44b/)(https://s17.postimg.org/tsndwulhn/Whitman_s_Sampler.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tsndwulhn/)

Middle of the pile for me, but liked the joker faces and the half-wit tagline.

Maybe it would have been funnier as Witless?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 03, 2017, 05:01:57 AM
Jerkens and Jergens soap...

(https://s17.postimg.cc/rnr4jplff/jerkens_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rnr4jplff/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/f94cjgm8b/Jergens.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f94cjgm8b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 03, 2017, 05:27:47 AM
Jerkens and Jergens soap...

(https://s17.postimg.org/rnr4jplff/jerkens_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rnr4jplff/)(https://s17.postimg.org/f94cjgm8b/Jergens.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f94cjgm8b/)

Middle of the pile for me, but liked the joker faces and the half-wit tagline.

Maybe it would have been funnier as Witless?
I like the Jerken's character. I also like the "Bite Size" gag.

But the "Cleans up dirty words" doesn't go with the packaging. Maybe something like..

"Commotion Loud Soap" or "Lotion Scold Soap"? or a mix of the two?
---
For What Man's...

I agree with the "Witless" gag.

I would change "Chocolates and Confections" to "Dimwits and Defections".

(Which obviously defections is just defect combined with confections. Not the other meaning.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 09, 2017, 01:10:34 PM
Bit-O-Money and Bit-O-Honey. I think the actual wrapper is from Jason Liebig's collection, so I want to give him proper credit for the image.


(https://s17.postimg.cc/9n98uspwr/bitomoney_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9n98uspwr/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/uk5gzgvnf/Bit-_O-_Honey.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uk5gzgvnf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 09, 2017, 02:59:40 PM

But the "Cleans up dirty words" doesn't go with the packaging.


Back in the day, if you used dirty words (foul language) in school, a teacher would cram a bar of soap in your mouth and make you chew on it or keep it there.  Yes, they were allowed to do that!  Pretty cool, eh?  Too bad they got rid of the idea!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_out_mouth_with_soap
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 09, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Back in the day, if you used dirty words (foul language) in school, a teacher would cram a bar of soap in your mouth and make you chew on it or keep it there.  Yes, they were allowed to do that!  Pretty cool, eh?  Too bad they got rid of the idea!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing_out_mouth_with_soap

I know that. For example, "A Christmas Story" is on the TV practically all day on Christmas... on every channel.

And also my dad had a few stories...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 09, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
I know that. For example, "A Christmas Story" is on the TV practically all day on Christmas... on every channel.

And also my dad had a few stories...

Yeah, well you should just be grateful that your teachers can't do the same to you for making all of those cigarette and alcohol parodies, you young whippersnapper, you!  (Or maybe they just don't know?  Hmmm.  I wonder if I'll run into any of your instructors at one of those teacher workshops they're always having?)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on December 10, 2017, 02:52:00 AM
Yeah, well you should just be grateful that your teachers can't do the same to you for making all of those cigarette and alcohol parodies, you young whippersnapper, you!  (Or maybe they just don't know?  Hmmm.  I wonder if I'll run into any of your instructors at one of those teacher workshops they're always having?)

I don't do it at school. Except for one health project, which was an advertisement which was saying that cigarettes were bad which I came up with a Wacky Ad like parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 10, 2017, 06:40:09 AM
I don't do it at school. Except for one health project, which was an advertisement which was saying that cigarettes were bad which I came up with a Wacky Ad like parody.

What you did for health is a great way to integrate Wackys into school!

And I'm only messing with you about talking to your teachers.  In fact, we teachers often encourage student interest in Wacky Packages.  We want children to collect them.  That way we can confiscate them when kids have them out when they're not supposed to be, such as during the middle of a lesson or during a fire drill when students feel a need to rescue and save them.  Then we can either 1) add them to our own collections and/or 2) sell the very same cards back to our students 20 years from now on eBay!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  (Evil laughter)

 >:D  >:D  >:D
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on December 10, 2017, 09:05:47 AM
Decent gag, and a really good rendering of the box.  I remember sticking this on the box under our kitchen sink.

I always liked this one, and remember hoping for the artwork to emerge from the vault.  "Jumped on by 125 feet"--classic.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on December 10, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
Bit-O-Money and Bit-O-Honey. I think the actual wrapper is from Jason Liebig's collection, so I want to give him proper credit for the image.


(https://s17.postimg.org/9n98uspwr/bitomoney_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9n98uspwr/)(https://s17.postimg.org/uk5gzgvnf/Bit-_O-_Honey.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uk5gzgvnf/)

I'd never heard of Bit-O-Honey until this ad came out.  I wish someone would post the video portion, in all its psychedelic glory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flb2Yk4j8l8


Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 02, 2018, 10:41:42 AM
Now that the holidays are behind us, let's continue on the vintage 6th Series...

Ditch Boy and Dutch Boy
(https://s18.postimg.org/b0hjarywl/ditchboy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/b0hjarywl/)(https://s18.postimg.org/sqj7vtrx1/Dutch_Boy1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sqj7vtrx1/)(https://s18.postimg.org/gbwfvi84l/Dutch_Boy2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gbwfvi84l/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on January 02, 2018, 12:36:00 PM
Always liked the Ditch Boy title, especially the poster version!
(https://s13.postimg.org/trewosc7n/wp_pstrs_DB.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/trewosc7n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2018, 10:44:23 AM
Falling behind again! Spills Bros and Hills Bros...


(https://s14.postimg.org/u1jy341y5/spillsbros_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u1jy341y5/)(https://s14.postimg.org/wvn3gl6p9/Hills_Bros.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wvn3gl6p9/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 12, 2018, 12:14:04 PM
Falling behind again! Spills Bros and Hills Bros...


(https://s14.postimg.org/u1jy341y5/spillsbros_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u1jy341y5/)(https://s14.postimg.org/wvn3gl6p9/Hills_Bros.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wvn3gl6p9/)


Interesting side by side comparison. It's almost as if the Wacky picture was taken 2 seconds later than the original... after the nomad/wizard stubs his toe and spills his coffee. Would be a great lenticular combo.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 14, 2018, 09:49:07 AM
Clammy Soap and Camay Soap...


(https://s14.postimg.org/669r88pd9/clammy_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/669r88pd9/)(https://s14.postimg.org/9r5mqxjgt/Camay.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9r5mqxjgt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 18, 2018, 05:25:24 AM
Bar-Kist and Star-Kist...

(https://s14.postimg.org/ux28htfzh/barkist_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ux28htfzh/)(https://s14.postimg.org/rq7oy7qel/Star-_Kist.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rq7oy7qel/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 18, 2018, 07:35:35 AM
Bar-Kist and Star-Kist...

(https://s14.postimg.org/ux28htfzh/barkist_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ux28htfzh/)(https://s14.postimg.org/rq7oy7qel/Star-_Kist.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rq7oy7qel/)

That fish looks as happy as a clam. On a related note, I wonder who determined clams were happy. This one would be kinda blasey without the open can/soused fish.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on January 18, 2018, 09:42:14 AM
The phrase most likely started as the longer phrase “happy as a clam at high tide,” and was popularized in the early 19th century, particularly in the northeastern United States. Clams can only be readily dug up when the tide is low; in high water, they're almost impossible to find.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 18, 2018, 03:25:59 PM
Interesting tidbit.  Makes perfect sense.

I agree.  The soused fish definitely elevates the gag to a much higher level!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 18, 2018, 07:43:28 PM
Interesting tidbit.  Makes perfect sense.

I agree.  The soused fish definitely elevates the gag to a much higher level!
I wonder if the artist who did this one wanted to do a drunk Charlie the Tuna in the can, but couldn't do it due to copyright reasons, so he did the next best thing instead.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 19, 2018, 04:34:05 PM
I always wondered why that fish looks so goofy.  Arguably it looks more like a generic Spongebob Squarepants fish than anything relevant to the product and era.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 20, 2018, 05:57:53 AM
I wonder if the artist who did this one wanted to do a drunk Charlie the Tuna in the can, but couldn't do it due to copyright reasons, so he did the next best thing instead.

A drunk Charlie would indeed be much more humorous.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 26, 2018, 02:12:12 PM
Sneer and Cheer
(https://s14.postimg.org/nxgf0cahp/sneer_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nxgf0cahp/)(https://s14.postimg.org/y7itzm2y5/Cheer1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/y7itzm2y5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 15, 2018, 10:54:41 AM
Anyone want this thread updated? It's been a while and I'm not sure if anyone cares. LMK
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 15, 2018, 01:02:56 PM
Anyone want this thread updated? It's been a while and I'm not sure if anyone cares. LMK
I care! I've been waiting for the next one in this for some time now. At the very least, it does help me with my a's and c's for the Master Spreadsheet. Keep it comin', keep it comin'!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on April 15, 2018, 01:34:51 PM
Are all of the images gone for anyone else?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Scheres on April 15, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
I'd like it if there were more Wacky talk going on. Otherwise might as well change the name of this forum to Beware Of Matt Stock Forum. More Wacky discussion please!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 15, 2018, 02:03:14 PM
Anyone want this thread updated? It's been a while and I'm not sure if anyone cares. LMK

I'd like to continue.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on April 15, 2018, 02:23:35 PM
Are all of the images gone for anyone else?

I am not seeing any images. I have not seen any for a few days on this forum. (I thought it was just on my end!)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 15, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
I am not seeing any images. I have not seen any for a few days on this forum. (I thought it was just on my end!)

Postimage changed their image hosting urls to postimage.cc. Bottom line is, the images are all still there, but they will only show in old threads if the postimage.org URL is changed to postimage.cc. New images should work fine as always.

All of the images in my account are still usable as they have the new URLs automatically.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 15, 2018, 02:34:32 PM
Now that the holidays are behind us, let's continue on the vintage 6th Series...

Ditch Boy and Dutch Boy
(https://s18.postimg.cc/b0hjarywl/ditchboy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b0hjarywl/)(https://s18.postimg.cc/sqj7vtrx1/Dutch_Boy1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sqj7vtrx1/)(https://s18.postimg.cc/gbwfvi84l/Dutch_Boy2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gbwfvi84l/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 15, 2018, 02:41:21 PM
Sneer and Cheer
(https://s14.postimg.cc/nxgf0cahp/sneer_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nxgf0cahp/)(https://s14.postimg.cc/y7itzm2y5/Cheer1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y7itzm2y5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on April 15, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
Postimage changed their image hosting urls to postimage.cc. Bottom line is, the images are all still there, but they will only show in old threads if the postimage.org URL is changed to postimage.cc. New images should work fine as always.

All of the images in my account are still usable as they have the new URLs automatically.

Thank you, Dave!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 15, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
Back to the WP basics!  A nice breath of refreshing air!  Thanks!

"Before you do your washload!" always struck me as somewhat odd.  Why before?  Besides, the woman is smack in the middle of her washing.  I'd suggest "Before, during and after you do your washload!" which would also parallel the "hot, warm and cold" on the original box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 15, 2018, 08:47:39 PM
Excellent! Here is where we left off in the 6th Series - Broomo Seltzer and Bromo Seltzer...



(https://s17.postimg.cc/xqqdl28rf/broomoseltzer_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xqqdl28rf/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/jybyoupjf/Bromo_Seltzer1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jybyoupjf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 16, 2018, 03:33:31 AM
Broomo Seltzer is a classic Wacky title - funny gag and taglines, and that glass bottle and lid are tremendous!   The broom inside is just perfect.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on April 16, 2018, 08:07:06 AM
Impeccable esophagus, too!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 16, 2018, 11:42:20 AM
Impeccable esophagus, too!

I thought that was one of the most crumby tummies I have ever seen. Just goes to show, art is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on April 16, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
I thought that was one of the most crumby tummies I have ever seen.

Exactly! Norm really captured the inner beauty!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 16, 2018, 05:13:41 PM
Broomo was hypnotic to me as a kid. I remember pulling it out before bedtime and staring at those blues... I didn't know the product, but knew how beautifully this was painted. Series 6 was the first series I was able to collect from stores... so it is like my introduction to Wackys. My most nostalgic series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 16, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
Broomo was hypnotic to me as a kid. I remember pulling it out before bedtime and staring at those blues... I didn't know the product, but knew how beautifully this was painted. Series 6 was the first series I was able to collect from stores... so it is like my introduction to Wackys. My most nostalgic series.

Yep, that glass bottle is a thing of beauty!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 17, 2018, 06:41:01 PM
Next in line - Virginia Slums and Virginia Slims...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/qn1yro817/virginiaslums_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qn1yro817/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/7hyphxo8b/Virginia_Slims.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7hyphxo8b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 18, 2018, 02:39:05 AM
Next in line - Virginia Slums and Virginia Slims...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/qn1yro817/virginiaslums_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qn1yro817/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/7hyphxo8b/Virginia_Slims.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7hyphxo8b/)

When I pulled this sticker as a kid, I didn't get the gag until I looked up "slums" in the dictionary.  Then the gag and taglines made sense.  And, talk about making something out of a nothing package!  There is so much art and detail that it's a fantastic Wacky even if some kids didn't get the gag.  Love the buildings and smokestacks.  The smoke is great, too. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 18, 2018, 04:27:18 AM
When I pulled this sticker as a kid, I didn't get the gag until I looked up "slums" in the dictionary.  Then the gag and taglines made sense.  And, talk about making something out of a nothing package!  There is so much art and detail that it's a fantastic Wacky even if some kids didn't get the gag.  Love the buildings and smokestacks.  The smoke is great, too.

Yes! I admire how he used the brown stripes on the left of the actual pack to represent smoke stacks on the parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 18, 2018, 05:46:18 PM
Yes! I admire how he used the brown stripes on the left of the actual pack to represent smoke stacks on the parody.

Also to represent the foul filthiness of the habit.  (Trust me, I'm one to know and guilty as charged.)

And, yes, all of those many factory buildings are very cool.  A lesser artist would have simply settled for one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 19, 2018, 05:24:29 AM
Footsie Rool and Tootsie Roll...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/ri37lt7nv/footsieroll_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ri37lt7nv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/bjuhvqqbf/Tootsie_Roll2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bjuhvqqbf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 19, 2018, 07:56:01 AM
Footsie Rool and Tootsie Roll...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/ri37lt7nv/footsieroll_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ri37lt7nv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/bjuhvqqbf/Tootsie_Roll2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bjuhvqqbf/)

I used to eat these things all the time as a kid. Loved the big Tootsie roll "log" with break off pieces, although I think that's all we could get back then:



(https://s7.postimg.cc/9ks92wlh3/tootsie-roll.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/9ks92wlh3/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/y1aexdehz/tootsie2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/y1aexdehz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 19, 2018, 08:29:33 AM
Tootsie Roll are one of my favorites, too - including the big one! And I just thought of another candidate for Old School - Tootsie Roll Flavor Rolls. As far as I know, they first appeared in the 1970s and I've lo-o-o-oved them ever since! I only wish that they didn't come just in Midgee size.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 19, 2018, 03:30:03 PM
Are these what you are referring to (or something very similar?)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/i0qih5srh/tootsie-fruit-rolls-5lb-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i0qih5srh/)

If so, then yes, these would make an excellent parody!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 19, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Yes, that's exactly what I'm referring to, Rob. When I was a kid, they only came in five flavors: vanilla, cherry, orange, lemon and lime. Nowadays, they've added three more: grape, blue raspberry and green apple. And I lo-o-o-ove all of them!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 20, 2018, 03:59:38 AM
Footsie Rool and Tootsie Roll...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/ri37lt7nv/footsieroll_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ri37lt7nv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/bjuhvqqbf/Tootsie_Roll2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bjuhvqqbf/)

I always liked this one, and still call the candy by the Wacky name.  There wasn't much to the original packaging, but that's a wonderfully detailed shoe, and it just looks so silly that to me it makes the Wacky.  But, the shoe obviously isn't all rubber, and there might have been better taglines.  Maybe "Rubber Flavor" and "The Candy Bar for Heels"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 20, 2018, 11:04:40 AM
Finishing up the 6th Series - Bum Bums and Pom Poms...

(https://s17.postimg.cc/m2qt9hlx7/bumbums_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m2qt9hlx7/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/jy6g8es0b/Pom_Poms.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jy6g8es0b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Scheres on April 20, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
I've seen Bum Bums forever and never even thought about what it was a parody of. never heard of Pom Poms, Missed that one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 20, 2018, 01:04:42 PM
I've seen Bum Bums forever and never even thought about what it was a parody of. never heard of Pom Poms, Missed that one.

Same here... was this possibly more of a regional item? We certainly had the Sugar Daddy's advertised on the box, as well as Black Cow, but I don't remember seeing these at any of my candy pushers' dens of sugars. I take it these were similar to Sugar Babies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 20, 2018, 01:05:00 PM
The word "bum" is politically incorrect . . . we should probably use the term "urban outdoorsman"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 21, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
Same here... was this possibly more of a regional item? We certainly had the Sugar Daddy's advertised on the box, as well as Black Cow, but I don't remember seeing these at any of my candy pushers' dens of sugars. I take it these were similar to Sugar Babies.
I don't remember them either-and I saw a lot of candy in the stores back in the day. But Wackys have done regional products before and recently. For example, MOB Coffee from ANS7 was really MJB Coffee, a brand found only in the western US. Another product that was only found in that part of the country (at least in the 1970s) was Putrid's Not Goodie from OLDS4, which was really Pearson's Nut Goodie. (By the way, did I get the first part of the OLDS4 Wacky's name right? If not, let me know and I'll change it to what it actually is.)   UPDATE: My mom, when I asked her, said that she remembered Poms Poms. She said that they were similar to Milk Duds.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 23, 2018, 04:35:35 AM
Kicking off the 7th Series...would you eat a Big Muc or a Big Mac?

(https://s17.postimg.cc/o9sccvx9n/bigmuc_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o9sccvx9n/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/6wi1y5rpn/Big_Mac2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6wi1y5rpn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 23, 2018, 05:40:37 AM
This one always made me smile, and, once again, I still use the name.  There wasn't much to do with the box, but they nailed the packaging and logos, and the hamburger is sufficiently messy to go with the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 23, 2018, 04:20:32 PM
Same here... was this possibly more of a regional item? We certainly had the Sugar Daddy's advertised on the box, as well as Black Cow, but I don't remember seeing these at any of my candy pushers' dens of sugars. I take it these were similar to Sugar Babies.
I don't remember Pom Poms from my candy stores either, but I think I got small boxes as Halloween trick or treats a few times.  Pretty sure they were a stiffer caramel than Sugar Babies, more like Milk Duds except perfectly round, like malted milk balls.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 23, 2018, 04:38:36 PM
I don't remember Pom Poms from my candy stores either, but I think I got small boxes as Halloween trick or treats a few times.  Pretty sure they were a stiffer caramel than Sugar Babies, more like Milk Duds except perfectly round, like malted milk balls.
I think I had Pom Poms back in the day, but maybe I'm just thinking of Milk Duds

Joke is a bit awkward. Maybe 'The candy that's good as a handout'

Interesting return of Nabisco brands to the Wacky lineup since the die-cuts. It won't last long though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 24, 2018, 11:09:40 AM
I think I had Pom Poms back in the day, but maybe I'm just thinking of Milk Duds

Joke is a bit awkward. Maybe 'The candy that's good as a handout'

Interesting return of Nabisco brands to the Wacky lineup since the die-cuts. It won't last long though.
You're right. Monsterettes (Oysterettes) was a Nabisco product-based Wacky that was intended for the 9th series and was never officially released until Flashback 1, many years later.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 24, 2018, 03:21:25 PM
Monsterettes (Oysterettes) was a Nabisco product-based Wacky that was intended for the 9th series and was never released until Flashback 1, many years later.
Unless you count the "unofficial" Duane Dimock's Lost Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 25, 2018, 01:08:57 AM
Yeah, I guess you could say that. Okay, it's fixed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 25, 2018, 04:45:07 AM
My-T-Fink and My-T-Fine...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/jwhuutvl7/mytfink_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jwhuutvl7/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/u6k9u30wb/My_T_Fine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u6k9u30wb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 25, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
My-T-Fink and My-T-Fine...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/jwhuutvl7/mytfink_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jwhuutvl7/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/u6k9u30wb/My_T_Fine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u6k9u30wb/)

As a youth, when I pulled this one, I had to look up the word "fink". Webster's definition gave two parts. I am paraphrasing but was something like:
     1) noun - an unpleasant or contemptible person
     2) verb - to inform on someone to the authorities
I think "fink" might have been  a bit passe even in the mid '70s, but I know kids my age weren't using it. I never could see the connection between a fink and someone over-weight as was implied by the image and "chunk flavor" tag. I guess we would come to know this as body-shaming. With all that aside, the pudding and bowl are very well rendered. Just not one of my favorites. Besides, we were a Jello household.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 25, 2018, 02:48:11 PM
As a youth, when I pulled this one, I had to look up the word "fink". Webster's definition gave two parts. I am paraphrasing but was something like:
     1) noun - an unpleasant or contemptible person
     2) verb - to inform on someone to the authorities
I think "fink" might have been  a bit passe even in the mid '70s, but I know kids my age weren't using it. I never could see the connection between a fink and someone over-weight as was implied by the image and "chunk flavor" tag. I guess we would come to know this as body-shaming. With all that aside, the pudding and bowl are very well rendered. Just not one of my favorites. Besides, we were a Jello household.

Glad to hear that I wasn't the only kid looking up the occasional Wacky word in the dictionary.

I think it would have worked better if the main character was swiping someone else's pudding.  The best I could ever guess about this one is that the chubby guy was just not sharing, making him a fink.  But, as you said, the box is very well executed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on April 25, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
As a youth, when I pulled this one, I had to look up the word "fink". Webster's definition gave two parts. I am paraphrasing but was something like:
     1) noun - an unpleasant or contemptible person
     2) verb - to inform on someone to the authorities
I think "fink" might have been  a bit passe even in the mid '70s, but I know kids my age weren't using it. I never could see the connection between a fink and someone over-weight as was implied by the image and "chunk flavor" tag. I guess we would come to know this as body-shaming. With all that aside, the pudding and bowl are very well rendered. Just not one of my favorites. Besides, we were a Jello household.

"Fink out" had a meaning similar to "bail on." Calling someone a fink would probably have gotten one beaten up, though not because the word was offensive.

This was one of the few Series 7's I missed back in the day. They really nailed the packaging, but I don't remember the product either.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 27, 2018, 09:18:12 AM
Fibby's and Libby's...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/vsxl2ygzv/fibbys_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vsxl2ygzv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/s9bndcwcb/Libby_s_Juice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s9bndcwcb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 27, 2018, 10:58:58 AM
Fibby's and Libby's...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/vsxl2ygzv/fibbys_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vsxl2ygzv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/s9bndcwcb/Libby_s_Juice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s9bndcwcb/)

This one seems more pertinent than ever. Not one of my personal favorites but a good solid Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 27, 2018, 03:54:24 PM
Fibby's and Libby's...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/vsxl2ygzv/fibbys_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vsxl2ygzv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/s9bndcwcb/Libby_s_Juice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s9bndcwcb/)

Probably another underrated title, as are many from the "over abundant" middle series.  The Libby's product line was very quintessential 70's, so it's good that it got the Wacky treatment.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 27, 2018, 04:09:47 PM
Fibby's and Libby's...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/vsxl2ygzv/fibbys_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/vsxl2ygzv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/s9bndcwcb/Libby_s_Juice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s9bndcwcb/)

I always liked the name, and they did the packaging well.  I appreciated this one more once I understood why something called "Watergate" was messing up the TV schedule.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 29, 2018, 06:02:37 AM
Wake up and feed the baby! You have a choice of either Gurgles or Gerber. I think the actual box is Barley, but I couldn't find an image.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/b65nqf7pn/gurgles_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b65nqf7pn/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dorcqit9n/Gerber_cereal.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dorcqit9n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 29, 2018, 06:07:25 AM
Never really caught my eye as a kid due to the simple coloring scheme, but this is another masterwork of art with that spot-on rendition of the baby and the perfect lettering. While the box color matches the Oatmeal box, I'd say the joke is based on the Barley version.
And that 'poor spout' always cracked me up.


(https://s7.postimg.cc/xdhqjgo57/Barely.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 29, 2018, 06:18:20 AM
Never really caught my eye as a kid due to the simple coloring scheme, but this is another masterwork of art with that spot-on rendition of the baby and the perfect lettering. While the box color matches the Oatmeal box, I'd say the joke is based on the Barley version.
And that 'poor spout' always cracked me up.


(https://s7.postimg.cc/xdhqjgo57/Barely.jpg)
Thanks for posting this image! Nice to have the exact product. You're right about the box color. They used the red color from the Oatmeal box, not the orange from the Barley box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 30, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
Wake up and feed the baby! You have a choice of either Gurgles or Gerber. I think the actual box is Barley, but I couldn't find an image.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/b65nqf7pn/gurgles_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b65nqf7pn/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dorcqit9n/Gerber_cereal.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dorcqit9n/)

A nice solid Wacky. These are the kind that kept me coming back. Great artwork and gags that are good and go together. We used to draw on this sticker to see who could make the baby look even worse.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 30, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
A nice solid Wacky. These are the kind that kept me coming back. Great artwork and gags that are good and go together. We used to draw on this sticker to see who could make the baby look even worse.
That last line made me laugh so hard that I coughed! Even when I was a kid, I never even thought of drawing on my Wackys (not that I'd have done it anyway; I knew better than to do so even back then).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 30, 2018, 12:21:39 PM
Never really caught my eye as a kid due to the simple coloring scheme, but this is another masterwork of art with that spot-on rendition of the baby and the perfect lettering. While the box color matches the Oatmeal box, I'd say the joke is based on the Barley version.
And that 'poor spout' always cracked me up.


(https://s7.postimg.cc/xdhqjgo57/Barely.jpg)
You know, I never even saw that last part until now-and I even have it in the Abrams book! In fact, I'd probably have never even noticed it unless someone mentioned it. Could it have been a goof, or was it done intentionally? Well, I guess we'll probably never know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 01, 2018, 01:42:45 AM
Wake up and feed the baby! You have a choice of either Gurgles or Gerber. I think the actual box is Barley, but I couldn't find an image.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/b65nqf7pn/gurgles_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b65nqf7pn/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dorcqit9n/Gerber_cereal.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dorcqit9n/)

I always liked this one because of the fantastic baby.  "Poor spout" is a great little extra gag.  Of course, I hate the apostrophes in mama's and papa's.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 01, 2018, 01:45:31 AM
You know, I never even saw that last part until now-and I even have it in the Abrams book! In fact, I'd probably have never even noticed it unless someone mentioned it. Could it have been a goof, or was it done intentionally? Well, I guess we'll probably never know.

Not a goof - it's a crummy "pour" spout!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 01, 2018, 05:11:31 AM
Which one of these products did Roger Daltrey sit in a bathtub full of...Hurtz Bears or Heinz Beans?

(https://s17.postimg.cc/jxe26kl6z/hurtzbears_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jxe26kl6z/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/7viockouz/Heinz_Baked_Beans1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7viockouz/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dwgd9nqwr/Heinz_Baked_Beans4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dwgd9nqwr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 01, 2018, 11:38:58 AM
Which one of these products did Roger Daltrey sit in a bathtub full of...Hurtz Bears or Heinz Beans?

(https://s17.postimg.cc/jxe26kl6z/hurtzbears_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jxe26kl6z/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/7viockouz/Heinz_Baked_Beans1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7viockouz/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dwgd9nqwr/Heinz_Baked_Beans4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dwgd9nqwr/)

Must have been Heinz because he wasn't "bear" at the time.  :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 01, 2018, 01:33:42 PM
(https://s19.postimg.cc/c3fiwuylf/8_F8_DF0_AC-_AA63-41_B4-9793-94382194_D642.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 01, 2018, 04:12:27 PM

(https://s17.postimg.cc/jxe26kl6z/hurtzbears_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jxe26kl6z/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/7viockouz/Heinz_Baked_Beans1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7viockouz/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/dwgd9nqwr/Heinz_Baked_Beans4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dwgd9nqwr/)

Now this is what it's all about!  I'm gushing tears of joy!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 02, 2018, 04:38:00 AM
Now this is what it's all about!  I'm gushing tears of joy!

Glad I made your day! I like that they used the green texture and bowl imagery from the Vegetarian Beans can. Otherwise it might have been a dull parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 02, 2018, 04:43:59 AM
Glad I made your day! I like that they used the green texture and bowl imagery from the Vegetarian Beans can. Otherwise it might have been a dull parody.

Agreed, they made a good choice with the vegetarian bean can.  I've always liked this one.  Good gag, great rendition, neat bears, and I like the tag line about bringing out the beast in you. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 02, 2018, 04:50:14 AM
Slopicana and Tropicana. The best real packaging I could find is an illustration. Anyone have a photo of the carton to share?

(https://s17.postimg.cc/wdy7g4jfv/slopicana_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wdy7g4jfv/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/6v5v3bhy3/Tropicana_OJ1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6v5v3bhy3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 02, 2018, 03:42:28 PM
Love the ape!

By the time the 7th series rolled out, my friends and I were into Wackys for everything they were worth, and I don't think there was a corner store that wasn't selling them (and we hit them all.)  Even the old lady who sold candy out of her kitchen to school children at lunchtime (we walked home for lunch in those days) was selling them.  Old habits die hard, and even today I still find myself glancing over at various candy displays in some slim, half-forgotten hope of spotting a box of packs.  I'd probably buy them all, if simply to relive one of the more carefree, serendipitous times in my life.

Still love the 7th series.  It is probably my favorite and brings back a lot of great memories.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 04, 2018, 03:58:23 PM
Top Slob and Top Job...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/jxu6o3jmz/topslob_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jxu6o3jmz/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/nu7ik3rrv/Top_Job1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nu7ik3rrv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 04, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
The fish are a nice added touch.  Don't think the parody would be nowhere near as strong without them.

What's the deal with the jagged cap, by the way?  (Never noticed it until now.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 04, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
The fish are a nice added touch.  Don't think the parody would be nowhere near as strong without them.

What's the deal with the jagged cap, by the way?  (Never noticed it until now.)

That might be symbolizing waves of mucky water, as inside the product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 05, 2018, 04:38:21 AM
The fish are a nice added touch.  Don't think the parody would be nowhere near as strong without them.

What's the deal with the jagged cap, by the way?  (Never noticed it until now.)

Maybe the cap on the real product they used had a red starburst, similar to the one on the front of the real product photo I posted.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 05, 2018, 04:57:27 AM
Maybe the cap on the real product they used had a red starburst, similar to the one on the front of the real product photo I posted.
that looks to be the case.
found this image online with the 'burst' cap
(https://s7.postimg.cc/oasumkykr/Vintage-full-bottle-_Top-_Job-heavy-duty-household.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 05, 2018, 08:55:50 AM
Looks like you may have nailed the perfect match.  The lettering is also slightly tilted, matching the Wacky
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 05, 2018, 12:38:13 PM
I always liked Top Slob, and it's another one of those names that is still stuck in my head.  Good gag, and a pretty good slob on the label.  They nailed the packaging, and the fish are well painted, and an interesting touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on May 05, 2018, 04:52:59 PM
Top Slob and Top Job...


(https://s17.postimg.cc/jxu6o3jmz/topslob_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jxu6o3jmz/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/nu7ik3rrv/Top_Job1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/nu7ik3rrv/)

Yes! A Top Notch "Liquid Filled Wacky". I honesty think Wackys like this sparked my interest in Aquariums as a kid, that has lasted up to this day.

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 06, 2018, 06:43:49 AM
Yes! A Top Notch "Liquid Filled Wacky". I honesty think Wackys like this sparked my interest in Aquariums as a kid, that has lasted up to this day.

Jim
That thing floating in the right corner of the bottle could either be a sea urchin or a mop head!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 06, 2018, 06:45:36 AM
Medi-Quak and Medi-Quik. I couldn't find the bottle, but the can has similar graphics.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/8zb40mv4b/mediquak_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8zb40mv4b/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/xsko1atkb/Medi-_Quik.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xsko1atkb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 06, 2018, 07:04:20 AM
Yes! A Top Notch "Liquid Filled Wacky". I honesty think Wackys like this sparked my interest in Aquariums as a kid, that has lasted up to this day.

Jim

I always liked and was fascinated by the "Liquid Filled Wackys," too.  In a way, they're in their own separate category.  IMO, these are some of Norm's best work.  The bubbles, various submerged characters/objects, and the way he lit the liquids all come together for some very arresting artwork.

Too bad there aren't ceramic figures available of some of the WP bottle characters (such as the "Log Cave-In" pioneer.)  One could create a rather one-of-a-kind aquarium!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 06, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
Medi-Quak and Medi-Quik. I couldn't find the bottle, but the can has similar graphics.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/8zb40mv4b/mediquak_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8zb40mv4b/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/xsko1atkb/Medi-_Quik.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xsko1atkb/)

Does Medi-Quik even exist today?  Or did it disappear the year Atari hit the market?  Looking at the graphics of all of those children playing outside makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 07, 2018, 08:45:03 PM
Dums and Tums.
(https://s31.postimg.cc/7a06nzk1j/dums_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7a06nzk1j/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/x5jx7er2v/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x5jx7er2v/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 08, 2018, 04:10:31 AM
Medi-Quak and Medi-Quik. I couldn't find the bottle, but the can has similar graphics.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/8zb40mv4b/mediquak_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8zb40mv4b/)(https://s17.postimg.cc/xsko1atkb/Medi-_Quik.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xsko1atkb/)

I love that duck!  I liked this gag so much I used to ask my mom to buy Medi-quak to keep for our little emergencies, instead of the other brands.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 09, 2018, 12:13:20 PM
Alpo and Alpoo...

(https://s31.postimg.cc/6z2hghz53/Alpo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6z2hghz53/)

Somewhat interesting story from the website I found the above image:

"One poignant instance of this plight was a job that John Falter did in 1964 for an advertising agency. He was hired to compose the color design for the label on ALPO dog food cans. Oddly enough, a further example of this same cultural tendency occurred ten years later when another classic illustrator, Norman Saunders, was hired by the Topps Bubble Gum Company to paint a spoof of that same label for a Wacky Packages sticker, ALPOO."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 09, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
Interesting story, and sure enough, the label on that first can is a painting.

I think I would prefer to eat the beef chunks in either painting, as opposed to the real thing.  Somehow, IMO, the photography of yesteryear often portrayed food in a most unappetizing manner.

By the way, notice the dog's disproportionate "giraffe" leg.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cddx on May 10, 2018, 07:30:22 AM
Does Medi-Quik even exist today?  Or did it disappear the year Atari hit the market?  Looking at the graphics of all of those children playing outside makes me wonder.


(https://s14.postimg.cc/n0tmaru7x/medi-quik.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n0tmaru7x/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 10, 2018, 01:19:47 PM
Interesting story, and sure enough, the label on that first can is a painting.

I think I would prefer to eat the beef chunks in either painting, as opposed to the real thing.  Somehow, IMO, the photography of yesteryear often portrayed food in a most unappetizing manner.

By the way, notice the dog's disproportionate "giraffe" leg.
That leg was interesting! I never would've noticed it unless someone mentioned it and, back in the day, I didn't even see it-until now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 10, 2018, 03:03:49 PM
Does Medi-Quik even exist today?  Or did it disappear the year Atari hit the market?  Looking at the graphics of all of those children playing outside makes me wonder.


(https://s14.postimg.cc/n0tmaru7x/medi-quik.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n0tmaru7x/)

Thanks!

I notice, though, that all of the children have disappeared.  No more jumping rope, shooting marbles, etc..

Perhaps this parody should be redone and brought up to date?  A duck with (Daffy Duck) arms and painful blisters on its thumbs gripping a game controller as it sits gawking at a television video game screen.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 11, 2018, 03:33:30 PM
Hag and Hag or Half and Half?

(https://s9.postimg.cc/4ozytg3qz/hagandhag_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4ozytg3qz/)(https://s9.postimg.cc/rqgjz90uj/Half_and_Half_Tobacco1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rqgjz90uj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 12, 2018, 07:41:04 AM
Hag and Hag or Half and Half?

(https://s9.postimg.cc/4ozytg3qz/hagandhag_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4ozytg3qz/)(https://s9.postimg.cc/rqgjz90uj/Half_and_Half_Tobacco1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rqgjz90uj/)

Rather simple and plain, yet the witch illustration is well done.

Brings back memories of walking into the local mall and finding (it seems strange to say now) a tobacconist shop - along with a store that sold nothing but organs, fountains filled with coins, retailers that sold LPs, cassettes, and 8-track tapes, and head shops selling little bottles of "Rush" (amyl nitrite.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 13, 2018, 11:01:45 AM
Rather simple and plain, yet the witch illustration is well done.

Brings back memories of walking into the local mall and finding (it seems strange to say now) a tobacconist shop - along with a store that sold nothing but organs, fountains filled with coins, retailers that sold LPs, cassettes, and 8-track tapes, and head shops selling little bottles of "Rush" (amyl nitrite.)
I remember all of those things except the head shops (but then again, I wouldn't have noticed them anyway). I also remember pet shops, toy stores, book stores, small candy booths in the main department store in the mall, small movie theaters that only had two rooms, stores like Woolworth's that had lunch counters outside in the hallway, soft pretzel stands in that same hallway, pinball arcades, department stores that don't even exist anyone (and usually more than one of them in different sections)-oh, I could go on forever with this!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 13, 2018, 04:46:07 PM
I remember all of those things except the head shops (but then again, I wouldn't have noticed them anyway). I also remember pet shops, toy stores, book stores, small candy booths in the main department store in the mall, small movie theaters that only had two rooms, stores like Woolworth's that had lunch counters outside in the hallway, soft pretzel stands in that same hallway, pinball arcades, department stores that don't even exist anyone (and usually more than one of them in different sections)-oh, I could go on forever with this!

You remembered some good ones.  Yes, I definitely remember the Woolworth's lunch counter in the hallway, small candy booths in the department stores, pet shops, and - what did you call them? - "pinball" arcades painted up all black like dark grottoes.  There was also a candle shop called "Wicks and Sticks," I believe, that sold all kinds of crazy, sculpted candle figures such as dragons, etc. - like wax works of art.  I still have one somewhere around here.

To be honest, I can't even remember the last time I shopped in a mall.  There's no cool stores left that appeal to me.  I do remember thinking to myself, though, as I hurriedly walked through one, "Why the hell am I even here?"  (There's also not that many cool stores left outside of the malls, either!)  Welcome to the age of Target and Walmart.  Now I tend to frequent small CD, book, and other odd stores located on renovated downtown Main Streets in neighboring small towns.

Perhaps the 3rd Blade Runner movie will feature even yet a bleaker landscape:  A vast system of domes covering Los Angeles, which, in itself, is a vast, never-ending Walmart, a place where one could live and die without ever having to leave.  Everything for the impoverished soul!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 13, 2018, 06:55:23 PM
You remembered some good ones.  Yes, I definitely remember the Woolworth's lunch counter in the hallway, small candy booths in the department stores, pet shops, and - what did you call them? - "pinball" arcades painted up all black like dark grottoes.  There was also a candle shop called "Wicks and Sticks," I believe, that sold all kinds of crazy, sculpted candle figures such as dragons, etc. - like wax works of art.  I still have one somewhere around here.

To be honest, I can't even remember the last time I shopped in a mall.  There's no cool stores left that appeal to me.  I do remember thinking to myself, though, as I hurriedly walked through one, "Why the hell am I even here?"  (There's also not that many cool stores left outside of the malls, either!)  Welcome to the age of Target and Walmart.  Now I tend to frequent small CD, book, and other odd stores located on renovated downtown Main Streets in neighboring small towns.

Perhaps the 3rd Blade Runner movie will feature even yet a bleaker landscape:  A vast system of domes covering Los Angeles, which, in itself, is a vast, never-ending Walmart, a place where one could live and die without ever having to leave.  Everything for the impoverished soul!

The only time I've been to a mall in the last 10 years was to get my mom's perfume at Macy's; I've been ordering it on line for years now.  I remember the good old days with video arcades, Walden Books, B. Dalton, Wicks and Sticks I think I have a wizard candle somewhere), Spencer Gifts, McCrory and KayBee Toys.

Your future vision reminds me of a science fiction novel where everyone lived in ginormous buildings called urbmonds (urbmods?), and basically never went outside.  I can't remember the name of the book, but hopefully someone here will.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 14, 2018, 11:39:13 AM
Your future vision reminds me of a science fiction novel where everyone lived in ginormous buildings called urbmonds (urbmods?), and basically never went outside.  I can't remember the name of the book, but hopefully someone here will.
The World Inside by R. Silverberg?

[in my best Linus Van Pelt] That's what Google is all about, Charlie Brown.   :)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 14, 2018, 02:58:15 PM
The World Inside by R. Silverberg?

[in my best Linus Van Pelt] That's what Google is all about, Charlie Brown.   :)

I did try to search, but perhaps wasn't good enough with the search words.  Thanks!  I love Robert Silverberg novels!  Larry Niven, too.  And the Riverworld series by Philip Jose Farmer is awesome.  His Dayworld is thought provoking as well.  Heinlein is another favorite, but in the end, IMHO, Asimov rules.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 15, 2018, 07:15:35 PM
Dimwit Dots and Domino Dots. Here's another where I wish I had an image of the exact 1970s packaging parodied.

(https://s31.postimg.cc/wcpbvd18n/dimwitdots_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wcpbvd18n/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/j8jrip41z/Domino_Dots1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j8jrip41z/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 18, 2018, 07:13:35 AM
Wow...no comments on Dimwit Dots. I think Dimwit Dots is one of the most eye-catching, colorful parodies in the 7th Series. The mod yellow cube pattern is reminiscent of 70s-era mosaic art. Mixed with the guy's green shirt, blue bowtie and red lettering. Absolutely love the tight illustration of the guy who obviously is such a dimwit he can't put a sugar cube in the giant coffee cup! It's a shame I don't have a visual reference to the real packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 18, 2018, 07:17:11 AM
Mr. Goodbye and Mr. Goodbar...


(https://s31.postimg.cc/tubwjkoqf/mrgoodbye_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tubwjkoqf/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/wof1x5w3b/Mr._Goodbar1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wof1x5w3b/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 18, 2018, 12:05:51 PM
Wow...no comments on Dimwit Dots. I think Dimwit Dots is one of the most eye-catching, colorful parodies in the 7th Series. The mod yellow cube pattern is reminiscent of 70s-era mosaic art. Mixed with the guy's green shirt, blue bowtie and red lettering. Absolutely love the tight illustration of the guy who obviously is such a dimwit he can't put a sugar cube in the giant coffee cup! It's a shame I don't have a visual reference to the real packaging.
I spent some time trying to dig around for a vintage image, but couldn't find anything with the checkerboard pattern. For that matter, it was difficult to find anything that was a Domino Dot. Looks like that name disappeared quite a while ago.

(https://s31.postimg.cc/dvlbh6k2j/Smjhuecod_Gu_ALVt_BKMChh3uag_P5x_Pjj3_J3a_Bj3eacf_A.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 18, 2018, 12:06:38 PM
Wow...no comments on Dimwit Dots. I think Dimwit Dots is one of the most eye-catching, colorful parodies in the 7th Series. The mod yellow cube pattern is reminiscent of 70s-era mosaic art. Mixed with the guy's green shirt, blue bowtie and red lettering. Absolutely love the tight illustration of the guy who obviously is such a dimwit he can't put a sugar cube in the giant coffee cup! It's a shame I don't have a visual reference to the real packaging.

I lacked the ability to actually write a response to it. Dimwit Dots is one of my favorite 7th Series titles.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 18, 2018, 08:34:26 PM
Wow...no comments on Dimwit Dots. I think Dimwit Dots is one of the most eye-catching, colorful parodies in the 7th Series. The mod yellow cube pattern is reminiscent of 70s-era mosaic art. Mixed with the guy's green shirt, blue bowtie and red lettering. Absolutely love the tight illustration of the guy who obviously is such a dimwit he can't put a sugar cube in the giant coffee cup! It's a shame I don't have a visual reference to the real packaging.
I missed the 7th Series entirely so it doesn't have the same nostalgic pull for me as some other series do, but a good Wacky is a good Wacky, and the 7th has its share.  I'd put this one among the best 4 or 5 titles from that Series.  As for the packaging, it's a little frustrating that an exact match can't be found.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 19, 2018, 04:41:57 AM
Wow...no comments on Dimwit Dots. I think Dimwit Dots is one of the most eye-catching, colorful parodies in the 7th Series. The mod yellow cube pattern is reminiscent of 70s-era mosaic art. Mixed with the guy's green shirt, blue bowtie and red lettering. Absolutely love the tight illustration of the guy who obviously is such a dimwit he can't put a sugar cube in the giant coffee cup! It's a shame I don't have a visual reference to the real packaging.

I really like Dimwit Dots, from the gag to the colorful packaging.  The goofy character is awesome!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 19, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
Mr. Goodbye and Mr. Goodbar...


(https://s31.postimg.cc/tubwjkoqf/mrgoodbye_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tubwjkoqf/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/wof1x5w3b/Mr._Goodbar1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wof1x5w3b/)

Always liked the gangster parodies. This one livened up a rather plain wrapper.  I especially like the way Norm rendered the car tilted up on two wheels, as well as the gangsters firing willy-nilly at nothing.

"Her-She," though, isn't just weak, but just doesn't fit.  (But then and again, "Hershey" is one of the tougher names to parody.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 19, 2018, 06:57:26 AM
Always liked the gangster parodies. This one livened up a rather plain wrapper.  I especially like the way Norm rendered the car tilted up on two wheels, as well as the gangsters firing willy-nilly at nothing.

"Her-She," though, isn't just weak, but just doesn't fit.  (But then and again, "Hershey" is one of the tougher names to parody.)

Agreed, love the car and gangsters.  I thought "Hershey" should have been something like "Hearse-y."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 19, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
I thought "Hershey" should have been something like "Hearse-y."
or "He-shot"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 21, 2018, 05:01:17 AM
Caged and Cadet dog food...

(https://s31.postimg.cc/uyn69t5ev/caged_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uyn69t5ev/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/xfyxh5hmf/Cadet_dog_food1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xfyxh5hmf/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/oky36n0jr/Cadet_dog_food3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oky36n0jr/)

Here's another one where I cannot locate a 70s-era match for the actual packaging. Just a faded ghost sign and the cat food label with the "chevron" design.


Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 21, 2018, 05:08:30 AM
I never recognized the product, but the can top looked so awesome, and I liked the dog, so this was middle of the pack for me (pun intended  :P)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 24, 2018, 04:47:01 AM
Another gangster parody! Contrac and Contac...

(https://s31.postimg.cc/tajxomt3r/contrac_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tajxomt3r/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/5jkk6ky2f/Contac.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jkk6ky2f/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 24, 2018, 08:42:48 AM
Another gangster parody! Contrac and Contac...

(https://s31.postimg.cc/tajxomt3r/contrac_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tajxomt3r/)(https://s31.postimg.cc/5jkk6ky2f/Contac.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jkk6ky2f/)

Do you think the 1972 release of THE GODFATHER was an influence in the number of mob/gangster WPs? 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 24, 2018, 03:14:21 PM
Do you think the 1972 release of THE GODFATHER was an influence in the number of mob/gangster WPs?

Not sure about the Godfather connection, but the "cartridges" link certainly works from blades to bullets.  The package replication was great, and I always knew what this Wacky parodied.  No great characters, but still a decent Wacky IMO.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 24, 2018, 05:33:20 PM
Do you think the 1972 release of THE GODFATHER was an influence in the number of mob/gangster WPs?
Always wondered why the product background in the parody is completely devoid of color.  Did the real product ever actually look like that?  Not a great marketing strategy if you ask me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 24, 2018, 06:11:15 PM
Always wondered why the product background in the parody is completely devoid of color.  Did the real product ever actually look like that?  Not a great marketing strategy if you ask me.

My recollection is that the actual product had a mostly white package, with a capsule featured fairly prominently on the left side, just like the Wacky
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2018, 04:20:34 PM
Ok, I see your point, the real product package isn't exactly bursting with color either.  But changing the large capsule/bullet from color to b/w gives the parody a more overall b/w feel, to me at least.  I also tend to believe the exact matching real product may be a little different than the one posted, maybe a perfect match with the parody after all.  But I couldn't find anything closer in a Google search.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2018, 04:23:50 PM
Just occurred to me to check Rusty's old site, and there it is.  Capsule in b/w on the real product.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/i788fxjnf/IMG_0050.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i788fxjnf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 25, 2018, 04:34:58 PM
I'm confused. Don't you guys see the real packaging photo next to the parody?

I can see both original and WP in your post.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 28, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Big Banana and Bic Banana. Did the artist take creative liberty with this, or was there actually a green box?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/i7459fvij/bigbanana_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i7459fvij/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/u8zj3n9wr/Bic_Banana1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u8zj3n9wr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 29, 2018, 05:21:42 PM
Big Banana and Bic Banana. Did the artist take creative liberty with this, or was there actually a green box?
Don't remember if there was a green box, but I suspect that the box color is creative, as I see it matching a ripening banana peel [between green and yellow].
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 29, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
Don't remember if there was a green box, but I suspect that the box color is creative, as I see it matching a ripening banana peel [between green and yellow].

That sounds good!  I couldn't find a green package, but I am terrible at finding these kinds of images.

I really like the gag, and remember putting it on a notebook for school.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 29, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
Big Banana and Bic Banana. Did the artist take creative liberty with this, or was there actually a green box?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/i7459fvij/bigbanana_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i7459fvij/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/u8zj3n9wr/Bic_Banana1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u8zj3n9wr/)
To the question of the green box, I'm thinking maybe another possibility is that the parody was based on a ballpoint pen rather than the felt tip marker real product shown?  Note the banana in the Wacky has what looks like a metallic ballpoint.  So maybe the green box is based on a pen product which was less prevalent than the markers?  Just a wild guess.

Speaking of felt tip markers, does anyone remember the brand name of markers where they came in a box, in a range of colors, and the box had a cartoon drawing of a smiling face where the crescent-shaped open-mouth smile was die-cut to reveal the marker colors inside?  We had those all the time as kids but for the life of me I can't remember the brand.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 30, 2018, 03:45:51 PM
Just reposting MoldRush's post so it's easier to read/notice...and I don't recall the marker brand, either:

To the question of the green box, I'm thinking maybe another possibility is that the parody was based on a ballpoint pen rather than the felt tip marker real product shown?  Note the banana in the Wacky has what looks like a metallic ballpoint.  So maybe the green box is based on a pen product which was less prevalent than the markers?  Just a wild guess.

Speaking of felt tip markers, does anyone remember the brand name of markers where they came in a box, in a range of colors, and the box had a cartoon drawing of a smiling face where the crescent-shaped open-mouth smile was die-cut to reveal the marker colors inside?  We had those all the time as kids but for the life of me I can't remember the brand.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 30, 2018, 04:16:02 PM
this 'school value' pack is close, at least in overall color and the font on the right side.
the wacky seems to be a combo of this pack and the single pack that has the image of the banana on it, possibly?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/kpx8jax7z/Big_Banana.png)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 30, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
this 'school value' pack is close, at least in overall color and the font on the right side.
the wacky seems to be a combo of this pack and the single pack that has the image of the banana on it, possibly?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/kpx8jax7z/Big_Banana.png)

I think we have a match!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 01, 2018, 07:34:38 AM
It might be based on the pen and not the felt tip shown.  The price on the felt tip is 29 cents and the price on the Wacky is 19 cents (per pound).  I would imagine the pen would be a little cheaper so maybe there was a single pen that had that background, same as the value pack.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 01, 2018, 09:44:04 AM
Emptimo and Optimo cigars. Not sure what the word Absents is replacing in the parody. Anyone?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/8z8a5bz63/emptimo_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8z8a5bz63/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/9q10amw97/Optimo_Cigars2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9q10amw97/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/il1ul5dbv/Optimo_Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/il1ul5dbv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on June 01, 2018, 01:19:55 PM
Emptimo and Optimo cigars. Not sure what the word Absents is replacing in the parody. Anyone?

It's replacing "Sports" but keeping with the theme of missing cigars.  Missing = Absent
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 01, 2018, 08:25:16 PM
Emptimo and Optimo cigars. Not sure what the word Absents is replacing in the parody. Anyone?

It's replacing "Sports" but keeping with the theme of missing cigars.  Missing = Absent

OK. I wasn't sure since Optimo made different types of cigars in this same package design - Sports, Cigarillos, Sweets, among others.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on June 02, 2018, 06:32:22 AM
Emptimo and Optimo cigars. Not sure what the word Absents is replacing in the parody. Anyone?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/8z8a5bz63/emptimo_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8z8a5bz63/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/9q10amw97/Optimo_Cigars2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9q10amw97/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/il1ul5dbv/Optimo_Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/il1ul5dbv/)

I don't think there's an equivalent flavor. They probably just picked a word that fit best with the parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 02, 2018, 08:56:19 AM
I don't think there's an equivalent flavor. They probably just picked a word that fit best with the parody.

I think you're right.

I never really liked this one as a kid, but I think it was because I didn't recognize the product at all.  Looking at it now, with the original packaging, it was a well done Wacky with a pretty darn good gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 03, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
Any real product that already has a character, mascot, etc you can work from is an ideal choice.  Nothing against added characters, but this just flows perfectly.  The kind that make you do a double-take.  Love the way Emptimo/Optimo look side by side.  Great name too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 05, 2018, 04:26:45 AM
Leek Oil Dripper vs. Lee Oil Filter...


(https://s33.postimg.cc/ja2t9b37v/leek_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ja2t9b37v/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/6ion2vtgr/Lee_Oil_Filter1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ion2vtgr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 05, 2018, 06:56:42 AM
Leek Oil Dripper vs. Lee Oil Filter...


(https://s33.postimg.cc/ja2t9b37v/leek_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ja2t9b37v/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/6ion2vtgr/Lee_Oil_Filter1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ion2vtgr/)

Not be a bad gag, and the art is OK, with a nice leaky car, but this one never grabbed me.  Maybe because there was no character?  I also didn't recognize the product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 05, 2018, 01:19:06 PM
Not be a bad gag, and the art is OK, with a nice leaky car, but this one never grabbed me.  Maybe because there was no character?  I also didn't recognize the product.

I always liked this one because my father was one of those guys that changed his oil and filter every 3 months. I bet I handed at least 20 of these Lee oil filters to him over the years. So high recognition in our household. With some WPs, the gag is a stretch but this one is "spot" on. Oil spot that is.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 08, 2018, 11:46:41 AM
Another cigar parody....El Polluto and El Producto.


(https://s33.postimg.cc/opuvjiqyj/elpolluto_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/opuvjiqyj/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/ps52234mz/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ps52234mz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on June 08, 2018, 04:24:32 PM
Continued thank for sharing these.  There are several (including this one) that I never
knew the original product.

Makes one appreciate all the great artwork that went into these!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on June 08, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
Continued thank for sharing these.  There are several (including this one) that I never
knew the original product.

Makes one appreciate all the great artwork that went into these!

I agree, this is one of my favorite threads. Thanks!

I'm sure this has been noted many times before, but I just noticed the extra "T" on the top of the box (POLUTTO) and that the last "O" is offset slightly above the other letters on the front of the box and looks a bit larger or has a different font than the first "O".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 08, 2018, 05:39:00 PM
Continued thank for sharing these.  There are several (including this one) that I never
knew the original product.

Makes one appreciate all the great artwork that went into these!

I second, er, third that notion!  Before this thread started, I relied on the lostwackys website as the best one-stop-shopping resource for real product images alongside their respective parodies.  While there are many accurate matches there, probably 20 to 30% feature either much newer versions of the product, grainy images, or other less-than optimum results on the real product.  The contributors to this thread really try to nail each and every image, which enhances ones appreciation of the art and the overall process of developing a good Wacky.  This to me is really what the hobby is all about - relating fond memories and looking for ways to appreciate and enjoy them even more.  It also brings individual titles which we may have under-appreciated in the past, into a new light.  I'm still blown away by Emptimo/Optimo.  Well done!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 08, 2018, 07:37:50 PM
I agree, this is one of my favorite threads. Thanks!

I'm sure this has been noted many times before, but I just noticed the extra "T" on the top of the box (POLUTTO) and that the last "O" is offset slightly above the other letters on the front of the box and looks a bit larger or has a different font than the first "O".

Great observation on the top of the box! Never noticed that error before.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 08, 2018, 07:44:12 PM
I'm glad people are enjoying this thread, and it's a personal thrill to contribute to it, hunting down images of matching packaging, or at least as close as possible. I can't take credit for starting this thread, so I thank the person who did. I also give credit to people like Gregg Koenig and Jason Liebig who purchased some of these packages and shot nice photos of them. When I was little, my older brother gave me stacks of his extra Wackies, and I loved going through the aisles of the grocery store finding the real packaging to compare it to the parody. So this brings back fond memories!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on June 08, 2018, 07:50:12 PM
Great observation on the top of the box! Never noticed that error before.

And the side of the box says "5 SOGGY CIGARS" while the bottom front of the box says "5 SMOGGY CIGARS". Obviously, smoggy works better with the pollution theme, but the cigar itself does look a bit soggy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 11, 2018, 05:00:02 AM
Speaking of Soggy....Soggy Babies and Sugar Babies...

(https://s33.postimg.cc/p71q9t257/soggybabies_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p71q9t257/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/jivfixsnv/Sugar_Babies.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jivfixsnv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 11, 2018, 05:09:44 AM
Speaking of Soggy....Soggy Babies and Sugar Babies...

(https://s33.postimg.cc/p71q9t257/soggybabies_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p71q9t257/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/jivfixsnv/Sugar_Babies.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jivfixsnv/)

I always liked this one, and the funny character livens up an otherwise dull package.  Good tagline taking advantage of the advertising for M&Ms.  I still call these by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 13, 2018, 04:59:45 AM
Oh Hairy! and Oh Henry!...


(https://s33.postimg.cc/qa2k040jf/ohhairy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qa2k040jf/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/6s7wk6qqz/Oh_Henry.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6s7wk6qqz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 13, 2018, 05:16:39 AM
Oh Hairy! and Oh Henry!...


(https://s33.postimg.cc/qa2k040jf/ohhairy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qa2k040jf/)(https://s33.postimg.cc/6s7wk6qqz/Oh_Henry.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6s7wk6qqz/)

This one is even better than Soggy Babies!  I love the hippy, and he goes so well with the fantastic gag.  Funny taglines, too.  I wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 13, 2018, 07:47:12 AM
Speaking of Soggy....Soggy Babies and Sugar Babies...
Another Nabisco.

I liked this one and the following Oh Hairy!, but wish they both had Saunders characters, as I think would improve them both just that little bit more.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Alexeirex on June 13, 2018, 09:51:39 AM
I always liked this one, and the funny character livens up an otherwise dull package.  Good tagline taking advantage of the advertising for M&Ms.  I still call these by the Wacky name.

I do the same thing - sometimes without realizing it!!! Hawaiian Punks, Dampers, etc...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 15, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
Sorry Wrap and Saran Wrap. Anyone have a better image of the real package. The one I found looks a bit older and the title is all capital letters.

Searching for "Saran Wrap" was fun on Flickr. Lots of...um...interesting photos there!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6cmxyfy5z/sorrywrap_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6cmxyfy5z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/725qau1af/Saran_Wrap.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/725qau1af/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 15, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
Sorry Wrap and Saran Wrap. Anyone have a better image of the real package. The one I found looks a bit older and the title is all capital letters.

Searching for "Saran Wrap" was fun on Flickr. Lots of...um...interesting photos there!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6cmxyfy5z/sorrywrap_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6cmxyfy5z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/725qau1af/Saran_Wrap.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/725qau1af/)

The lettering is closer but color scheme is off. They sure changed this packaging a lot. I saw at least 10 different box designs in three pages of a Google image search.


(https://s33.postimg.cc/ybpgjjraz/saran_wrap.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ybpgjjraz/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 15, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
The lettering is closer but color scheme is off. They sure changed this packaging a lot. I saw at least 10 different box designs in three pages of a Google image search.
that's crazy how many different looks that box had.
here's another close one, but the DOW is a blue diamond, not red


(https://s22.postimg.cc/lr90zyu7x/images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lr90zyu7x/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 18, 2018, 04:51:31 AM
Feetena and Wheatena. I always thought this was a parody of Farina since Wheatena wasn't a cereal common in our area.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/7oo5g0tzb/feetena_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7oo5g0tzb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/pepu13a53/Wheatena.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pepu13a53/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 18, 2018, 05:05:52 AM
Feetena and Wheatena. I always thought this was a parody of Farina since Wheatena wasn't a cereal common in our area.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/7oo5g0tzb/feetena_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7oo5g0tzb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/pepu13a53/Wheatena.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pepu13a53/)

This one always made me laugh.  Good gag, they matched the packaging, and managed to get a character in, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on June 18, 2018, 07:41:02 AM
Steve's great avatar . . .

   (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/avpics/avatar_130.gif)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 20, 2018, 08:57:36 PM
Murial and Muriel cigars...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/o6eti2tnb/murial_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o6eti2tnb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/melunen7r/Muriel_Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/melunen7r/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on June 21, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
Murial and Muriel cigars...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/o6eti2tnb/murial_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o6eti2tnb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/melunen7r/Muriel_Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/melunen7r/)
Wasn't there a version of this one where the tag line in the lower right corner read "Now you can have A breath like a man"?

Maybe on the original art?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 21, 2018, 04:22:36 PM
Wasn't there a version of this one where the tag line in the lower right corner read "Now you can have A breath like a man"?

Maybe on the original art?
on the original art - which was then used for a new image in the 4th reprint set.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 23, 2018, 03:36:27 PM
L'oggs and L'eggs

(https://s15.postimg.cc/768dg686v/loggs_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/768dg686v/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ad2wzt82f/L_eggs1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ad2wzt82f/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on June 23, 2018, 04:31:47 PM
L'oggs and L'eggs

(https://s15.postimg.cc/768dg686v/loggs_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/768dg686v/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ad2wzt82f/L_eggs1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ad2wzt82f/)

I remember this being the first reissue I pulled from a pack, still have it.

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 26, 2018, 04:47:07 AM
Boozo and Bozo gum. Not too far off from reality! Lot's of liquor candy out there...

https://www.candywarehouse.com/liquor-candy/

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6r4hwpkcn/boozo_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6r4hwpkcn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/gppgiolx3/Bozo_gum1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gppgiolx3/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/beajxz7k7/Bozo_gum2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/beajxz7k7/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 26, 2018, 05:02:54 AM
Boozo and Bozo gum. Not too far off from reality! Lot's of liquor candy out there...

https://www.candywarehouse.com/liquor-candy/

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6r4hwpkcn/boozo_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6r4hwpkcn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/gppgiolx3/Bozo_gum1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gppgiolx3/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/beajxz7k7/Bozo_gum2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/beajxz7k7/)

I loved this as a kid, maybe helped by the fact that it was the puzzle.  Colorful, funny, nailed the packaging, and they got a drinking character on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on June 26, 2018, 08:01:45 AM
Weird, I don't think I ever saw Bozo gum as a kid, and I saw my share of candy!   ;D

Nice to see pics of the real products, always appreciated, and thanks!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 26, 2018, 06:31:13 PM
Same here, no recollection of Bozo whatsoever.  And I was a bubblegum hound back then.  The slabs of Bazooka sandwiched between card-sized comics?  Fugghedaboutit.  Probably over a hundred packs consumed.  A very reliable sugar delivery system.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on June 27, 2018, 04:25:53 AM
Boozo and Bozo gum. Not too far off from reality! Lot's of liquor candy out there...

https://www.candywarehouse.com/liquor-candy/

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6r4hwpkcn/boozo_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6r4hwpkcn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/gppgiolx3/Bozo_gum1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gppgiolx3/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/beajxz7k7/Bozo_gum2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/beajxz7k7/)

Great title, one of my favorites, and one that I'd have to keep hidden from mom lest she get her hands on it and make it disappear.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 30, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
Blank Crows and Black Crows...


(https://s15.postimg.cc/noudegm9z/blankcrows_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/noudegm9z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/9iemj9dzr/Black_Crows2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9iemj9dzr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 30, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Blank Crows and Black Crows...


(https://s15.postimg.cc/noudegm9z/blankcrows_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/noudegm9z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/9iemj9dzr/Black_Crows2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9iemj9dzr/)

I don't recall ever seeing this product, and have no idea why the candy was named Crows, but I think this is a very good Wacky.  The birds are so well painted!  Maybe the net weight could have been "feather-brains"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on June 30, 2018, 04:00:36 PM
Always reminded me of the talking magpies, Heckle and Jeckle or the crows from Disney's "Song of the South.

Here is an article about Mason Black Crows.

https://candyprofessor.com/2010/04/28/black-crows-and-roses/

Crows, black licorice flavored gum drops, are also considered to be part of the Dots family, yet only the black licorice candies were called "crows."  Why?  I could be far off base, but I'm wondering if there might be a connection between "Black Crows" and "Jim Crow?"

From Wikipedia:

The Jim Crow persona was a theater character by Thomas D. Rice and an ethnic depiction in accordance with contemporary Caucasian ideas of African-Americans and their culture. The character was based on a folk trickster named Jim Crow that was long popular among black slaves. Rice also adapted and popularized a traditional slave song called "Jump Jim Crow" (1828).

The character dressed in rags, battered hat and torn shoes. Rice blackened his face and hands using burnt cork and impersonated a very nimble and irreverently witty African American field hand.

Rice's performance as "Jim Crow" helped to popularize American minstrelsy where many performers imitated Rice's use of blackface that toured around the United States. Those performers continued to spread the racist overtones and ideas perpetuated by the character to populations across the United States.


Back in the day, many companies jumped on the same "racist" (if you will) bandwagon, such as the Pearl Milling Company with their minstrel character "Aunt Jemima" - which Quaker Oats continued to use:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/dy68g6kmv/c_fit_fl_progressive_q_80_w_470.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dy68g6kmv/)

And let's not forget Heide Chocolate Babies:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/9dk20qdmv/4026373668_ddb8d3c78d_b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9dk20qdmv/)
(Courtesy of Jason Liebig)

And in case there is any confusion, let's dig a little further back in history:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6w8atkgwn/1906-heide-candy-box-black-kids-gum_1_1633823e07e1d1fac288b9c476.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6w8atkgwn/)

And for those still harboring the slightest shred of doubt:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ckelko3bb/1_4f31cb2363f4360ef662cd0b81e1b74e-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ckelko3bb/)

Perhaps Jason could shed some light on Mason Black Crows?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 30, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
I remember liking Chocolate Babies.  I had no idea they were racist; to me, they were just chocolate flavored candy, and chocolate is usually brown.  Don't think I even knew about anything besides milk chocolate then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on June 30, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
I remember liking Chocolate Babies.  I had no idea they were racist; to me, they were just chocolate flavored candy, and chocolate is usually brown.  Don't think I even knew about anything besides milk chocolate then.

Yeah, I loved Chocolate Babies, too.  In fact, they were delicious, and I wish I had a box now.  Nor do I remember thinking of them in racist terms.  My friends and I in our white, middle-class suburb, however, would joke and say that we were biting the heads off of little black (negro) babies, but we never stopped to think or consider that we were being racist at the time.  That was a completely different era from now.  When you're living and swept up in the moment, the moment never seems as bad.  It's simply part of you.  I was raised in a time when DDT was good, 9 out of 10 doctors recommended Lucky Strikes, children piled in the open beds of pickup trucks, and my brother and I giggled at "Ah-So" written on "Rotsa Root."  My friends and I rode our bikes in the clouds of "fog" billowing out the rear of the "mosquito truck," and everybody had mercury thermometers.  The mercury was fun to play with, too, and my mom put it on my open cuts (in the form of mercurochrome.)  Today, there are those who would say that the "Frito Bandito" is inappropriate.  Again, at the time, though, I didn't see anything wrong with the character.  As I also changed with the times, however, I can understand why the Frito Bandito is no longer around today, as well as why Chocolate Babies are no longer called "Chocolate Coons."

Going back to the "Black Crows," though, my guess would be that there is something politically incorrect about the origin of the name.  I believe the name was registered in 1899 - a time that most people were not being politically correct or, for that matter, even heard of the phrase.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 30, 2018, 10:30:10 PM
Weren't Chocolate Babies just about the exact same thing as Tootsie Rolls?  That's how I remember them tasting anyway...

I'm sure the perceived racist connotation is what keeps these from re-appearing on the shelves of store candy sections.  I read somewhere that they did actually make a comeback, but only sold loose by the pound.  I guess this was to avoid having to name them or come up with a PC-acceptable packaging design.

Back to Black Crows.  I don't remember them from the 70s either, although they are produced today.  Box graphics are different of course, and not all stores carry them.  Like black jelly beans, you either love 'em or hate 'em, so maybe they don't sell as briskly as Dots or other movie box choices.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 01, 2018, 11:16:41 AM
Maybe Mason Candy Co. realized it was a racial term in the 70s, and therefore changed the name. The 70s era match I posted earlier and the evolution of packaging here show Black Crows was changed to Licorice Crows, although the WP parody kept "black" in the title.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/e2sj9er2v/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e2sj9er2v/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/lvj71e4rr/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lvj71e4rr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7p3g661mf/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7p3g661mf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 03, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Always reminded me of the talking magpies, Heckle and Jeckle or the crows from Disney's "Song of the South.

Here is an article about Mason Black Crows.

https://candyprofessor.com/2010/04/28/black-crows-and-roses/

Crows, black licorice flavored gum drops, are also considered to be part of the Dots family, yet only the black licorice candies were called "crows."  Why?  I could be far off base, but I'm wondering if there might be a connection between "Black Crows" and "Jim Crow?"

From Wikipedia:

The Jim Crow persona was a theater character by Thomas D. Rice and an ethnic depiction in accordance with contemporary Caucasian ideas of African-Americans and their culture. The character was based on a folk trickster named Jim Crow that was long popular among black slaves. Rice also adapted and popularized a traditional slave song called "Jump Jim Crow" (1828).

The character dressed in rags, battered hat and torn shoes. Rice blackened his face and hands using burnt cork and impersonated a very nimble and irreverently witty African American field hand.

Rice's performance as "Jim Crow" helped to popularize American minstrelsy where many performers imitated Rice's use of blackface that toured around the United States. Those performers continued to spread the racist overtones and ideas perpetuated by the character to populations across the United States.


Back in the day, many companies jumped on the same "racist" (if you will) bandwagon, such as the Pearl Milling Company with their minstrel character "Aunt Jemima" - which Quaker Oats continued to use:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/dy68g6kmv/c_fit_fl_progressive_q_80_w_470.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dy68g6kmv/)

And let's not forget Heide Chocolate Babies:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/9dk20qdmv/4026373668_ddb8d3c78d_b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9dk20qdmv/)
(Courtesy of Jason Liebig)

And in case there is any confusion, let's dig a little further back in history:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6w8atkgwn/1906-heide-candy-box-black-kids-gum_1_1633823e07e1d1fac288b9c476.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6w8atkgwn/)

And for those still harboring the slightest shred of doubt:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ckelko3bb/1_4f31cb2363f4360ef662cd0b81e1b74e-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ckelko3bb/)

Perhaps Jason could shed some light on Mason Black Crows?
BB, the Disney crows were from Dumbo, not Song of the South. Just thought you'd like to know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 04, 2018, 08:33:47 AM
BB, the Disney crows were from Dumbo, not Song of the South. Just thought you'd like to know.

I do like to know.  You're right.  Mistake noted.

However, in researching what you stated, I stumbled across the following which I never knew before:

"Jim Crow, Fats, Deacon, Dopey, and Specks are a flock of five crows from Disney's 1941 film, Dumbo. Timothy and Dumbo are initially mocked by the crows upon meeting them. After hearing Dumbo's sad story, however, the crows do everything they can to help him. They act as surrogate father figures to Dumbo, and are also notable for teaching Dumbo how to fly.

Jim Crow acts as the unofficial leader of the flock, and carries himself with a slick, self-assured and stylish flair."


"Jim Crow?"  Really?  In this age of political correctness, I'm surprised "Dumbo" isn't sealed in a vault along with "Song of the South" - especially when it comes to Disney and the image they ever so carefully cultivate and protect.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 04, 2018, 12:41:54 PM
I do like to know.  You're right.  Mistake noted.

However, in researching what you stated, I stumbled across the following which I never knew before:

"Jim Crow, Fats, Deacon, Dopey, and Specks are a flock of five crows from Disney's 1941 film, Dumbo. Timothy and Dumbo are initially mocked by the crows upon meeting them. After hearing Dumbo's sad story, however, the crows do everything they can to help him. They act as surrogate father figures to Dumbo, and are also notable for teaching Dumbo how to fly.

Jim Crow acts as the unofficial leader of the flock, and carries himself with a slick, self-assured and stylish flair."


"Jim Crow?"  Really?  In this age of political correctness, I'm surprised "Dumbo" isn't sealed in a vault along with "Song of the South" - especially when it comes to Disney and the image they ever so carefully cultivate and protect.
Yes-especially since traditional circuses are no longer considered to be as popular as they once were.

Did you know that Disney was going to make a direct-to-video sequel to this film called Dumbo II, but it was never made? I've always wondered if the reason that I just mentioned was one of the reasons why.

I only know one thing about it-the baby ostrich born in the first film was going to be in a subplot, in which she would wonder that Dumbo's an elephant and he can fly, while she's a bird and she can't fly. This fact is found on the 60th Anniversary VHS release of Dumbo, which announces the film.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 05, 2018, 05:28:27 AM
Yes-especially since traditional circuses are no longer considered to be as popular as they once were.

Did you know that Disney was going to make a direct-to-video sequel to this film called Dumbo II, but it was never made? I've always wondered if the reason that I just mentioned was one of the reasons why.

I only know one thing about it-the baby ostrich born in the first film was going to be in a subplot, in which she would wonder that Dumbo's an elephant and he can fly, while she's a bird and she can't fly. This fact is found on the 60th Anniversary release of Dumbo, which announces the film.

Interesting theory.  You have a good point about traditional circuses (and sentient creatures being forced to perform.)  I wonder if that was the reason why Disney backpedaled on Dumbo II?  Personally, I think the ostrich plot would have worked out well.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 05, 2018, 05:31:33 AM
Grime (both variants) and Prime...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/pwh18pptj/grime-dusty_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pwh18pptj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/p6y8wd4pj/grime-heavy_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p6y8wd4pj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7tnyhi1on/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7tnyhi1on/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/64ev9flzb/Prime1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/64ev9flzb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 05, 2018, 05:45:41 AM
Grime (both variants) and Prime...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/pwh18pptj/grime-dusty_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pwh18pptj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/p6y8wd4pj/grime-heavy_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p6y8wd4pj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7tnyhi1on/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7tnyhi1on/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/64ev9flzb/Prime1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/64ev9flzb/)


I always liked this one, and even though we didn't have a dog, I recognized the packaging right away.  Great gag, well painted dog, and the "dirty dog" tagline always made me smile. I didn't see the Heavy version until I was an adult.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on July 05, 2018, 10:55:10 AM
Grime (both variants) and Prime...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/pwh18pptj/grime-dusty_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/pwh18pptj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/p6y8wd4pj/grime-heavy_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p6y8wd4pj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7tnyhi1on/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7tnyhi1on/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/64ev9flzb/Prime1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/64ev9flzb/)

Why did they change this one?

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 05, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
Why did they change this one?

Jim

The “Dusty Greasy” description was deemed too insulting to the product, and so was replaced by the less inflammatory “heavy.”
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 05, 2018, 01:14:45 PM
The “Dusty Greasy” description was deemed too insulting to the product, and so was replaced by the less inflammatory “heavy.”

Kind of takes away from the gag   :-\

All of my packs must have been from the initial production, as I never saw Heavy, but had enough Big Mucs to stick extras.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 05, 2018, 02:43:17 PM
Interesting theory.  You have a good point about traditional circuses (and sentient creatures being forced to perform.)  I wonder if that was the reason why Disney backpedaled on Dumbo II?  Personally, I think the ostrich plot would have worked out well.
Thanks. I've heard a lot about this in the news. Of course, traditional circuses were pretty much at the peak of their popularity back in the day when the average person didn't know that much about animals such as elephants, gorillas, chimpanzees, lions, tigers, bears, etc.. The same could be said for old-fashioned zoos. For example, the Philadelphia Zoo is ten times better now than it was when I was a kid. And I can remember when Zoo Atlanta was considered one of the 10 worst zoos in the country-but now it's one of the best!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 05, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
Thanks. I've heard a lot about this in the news. Of course, traditional circuses were pretty much at the peak of their popularity back in the day when the average person didn't know that much about animals such as elephants, gorillas, chimpanzees, lions, tigers, bears, etc.. The same could be said for old-fashioned zoos. For example, the Philadelphia Zoo is ten times better now than it was when I was a kid. And I can remember when Zoo Atlanta was considered one of the 10 worst zoos in the country-but now it's one of the best!

Dude, I didn't know you were a Philly boy!  I used to love going to the Philadelphia Zoo when I was a child.  In fact, it was an annual tradition for my family, not to mention school trips, etc..  Have lots of fond memories, though I haven't been there in at least 10 years now - probably more.  Heard the elephants are gone, and the lions now have an overhead "Habitrail," so to speak.  I'll have to get over there later this summer.  Hope a lot of the older buildings are still there.  Love the architecture.  Half the enjoyment was the animals; The other half was the park-like setting.

I don't know if this happens to people in every generation at some point, but I now have all these mixed feelings as to the past vs the present.  I have nostalgic memories of so many different things, yet many of them are in seeming opposition as to how I feel today, such as with zoos and circuses, for example.  At one time, my ex and I kept a menagerie of pet rodents: mice, hamsters, gerbils, guinea pigs, rats, you name it.  I love rats.  You have to have one to appreciate it, but they are definitely one of the most coolest animals I've ever encountered.  I'd love to own a couple now, but I refuse to keep anything in a cage or aquarium any more (unless it's hurt, and then, only on a temporary basis.)  I also love the Uncle Remus stories.  The complete edition may not be my all-time favorite book, yet its definitely in my top twenty and features wonderful stories with some of the richest dialect the English speaking world has ever set to paper.  And yet, at the same time, I can understand why some might find exception with the dialect and/or narrative setting, and if I'm reading this book in public, such as on a plane, I feel like some sort of criminal.  Hell, I even have nostalgic memories of Gaines Burgers (being I once feed my dog such,) yet if they were around today, I'd balk at the idea of feeding such crap to any animal.  I could go on an on with similar examples.  Who knows?  Maybe I'm becoming more enlightened?  Or maybe I'm just becoming more and more of a basket case?  Time will tell.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Moving on to those things "Wacky."  "Dusty greasy" chunks is humorous, but I prefer "heavy" chunks.  I think it works better with the dog being bonked over and over again on the head.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 08, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
Flopp and Fluff...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/t9wmhcpjb/flopp_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t9wmhcpjb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/q4c0r31rb/Fluff_copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q4c0r31rb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 08, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Always appreciated how Norm would go the extra mile to include the knurling (?) that is, the pattern of little raised bumps, on his jars such as he did here and with "Nutt's."

(https://s15.postimg.cc/d2uxfe2vb/nutts_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d2uxfe2vb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 08, 2018, 10:37:44 AM
Dude, I didn't know you were a Philly boy!  I used to love going to the Philadelphia Zoo when I was a child.  In fact, it was an annual tradition for my family, not to mention school trips, etc..  Have lots of fond memories, though I haven't been there in at least 10 years now - probably more.  Heard the elephants are gone, and the lions now have an overhead "Habitrail," so to speak.  I'll have to get over there later this summer.  Hope a lot of the older buildings are still there.  Love the architecture.  Half the enjoyment was the animals; The other half was the park-like setting.

I don't know if this happens to people in every generation at some point, but I now have all these mixed feelings as to the past vs the present.  I have nostalgic memories of so many different things, yet many of them are in seeming opposition as to how I feel today, such as with zoos and circuses, for example.  At one time, my ex and I kept a menagerie of pet rodents: mice, hamsters, gerbils, guinea pigs, rats, you name it.  I love rats.  You have to have one to appreciate it, but they are definitely one of the most coolest animals I've ever encountered.  I'd love to own a couple now, but I refuse to keep anything in a cage or aquarium any more (unless it's hurt, and then, only on a temporary basis.)  I also love the Uncle Remus stories.  The complete edition may not be my all-time favorite book, yet its definitely in my top twenty and features wonderful stories with some of the richest dialect the English speaking world has ever set to paper.  And yet, at the same time, I can understand why some might find exception with the dialect and/or narrative setting, and if I'm reading this book in public, such as on a plane, I feel like some sort of criminal.  Hell, I even have nostalgic memories of Gaines Burgers (being I once feed my dog such,) yet if they were around today, I'd balk at the idea of feeding such crap to any animal.  I could go on an on with similar examples.  Who knows?  Maybe I'm becoming more enlightened?  Or maybe I'm just becoming more and more of a basket case?  Time will tell.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Moving on to those things "Wacky."  "Dusty greasy" chunks is humorous, but I prefer "heavy" chunks.  I think it works better with the dog being bonked over and over again on the head.
I know what you mean about Uncle Remus. Song of the South is still on of my mom's favorite movies (she said once that she thought that it was a happy film and loved the actor who played Uncle Remus and his singing voice) and I still remember it being shown in re-releases in the theater at the Plymouth Meeting Mall and Mom taking my brother and I to see it every time it came out.  Ah, those were the days, indeed!

Now, here's the strange part. Gone with the Wind is just as politically incorrect as Song of the South is, and yet the first film has been on home video in every way, shape and form, while the second film has been outright banned and banished from home video. What is wrong with this picture here?

Here's a hardcover book that you might like: Uncle Remus: The Complete Tales (with a new introduction) as told by Julius Lester/illustrated by Jerry Pinkney. This book's just about the closest thing to having the stories in this day and age and it is good reading. You will not find a dull page in it, believe me.

Speaking of rats, did you know that Willard (1971) and Ben (1972) are both available from Shout! Factory in Blu-ray/DVD combos? That's something that you'd probably like to get if you like rats. Willard was also one of Elsa Lanchester's last films before she died (and one of Sondra Locke's first films) and, of course, Ben has that hit theme song done by Michael Jackson back when he was young (and normal).

And here's an interesting story! In 1990, my family and I took a vacation to England and Ireland. One of the places that we visited the London Zoo. Believe it or not, one of the exhibits had brown rats (Rattus norvegicus) and black rats (Rattus rattus)-the same "pest rats" that everyone hates-in two separate enclosures. While my mom and I were looking at the one on the right side of the exhibit, a zookeeper came into the enclosure with a big plate of food, put it down and left, locking the door behind her. The minute she did, those rats were all over the food like vultures at a carcass! It was really something and maybe a possible addition to your bucket list (Mom wasn't too impressed, of course, but I sure was!). All they needed to do was to have a house mouse (Mus musculus) enclosure there and all three of the major "pest rodents" would've been represented!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 08, 2018, 10:46:04 AM
Flopp and Fluff...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/t9wmhcpjb/flopp_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t9wmhcpjb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/q4c0r31rb/Fluff_copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q4c0r31rb/)

Another gag that got me as a kid, and where the Wacky name replaced the real one for me.  Great job on the jar and the typeface, and the addition of the mother and kid puts it over the top.  I remember putting a Flopp Wacky on a jar in our pantry and waiting eagerly for my mother to find it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 08, 2018, 11:21:38 AM
Always appreciated how Norm would go the extra mile to include the knurling (?) that is, the pattern of little raised bumps, on his jars such as he did here and with "Nutt's."

(https://s15.postimg.cc/d2uxfe2vb/nutts_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/d2uxfe2vb/)
What's especially awesome about the Fluff parody is that the second rendering, "Flunk" from the 14th, is every bit as good.  Hard to pick a clear winner between the two.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 08, 2018, 05:24:21 PM
What's especially awesome about the Fluff parody is that the second rendering, "Flunk" from the 14th, is every bit as good.  Hard to pick a clear winner between the two.

Let's place them side-by-side:

(https://s15.postimg.cc/anl4v2cif/flunk_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/anl4v2cif/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/c2mpjvt1z/wb3_flopp_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c2mpjvt1z/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 08, 2018, 07:44:24 PM
If you like the nuanced painting of the glass jar most, as mentioned previously about Nutt's Applesauce,, then Flunk comes out ahead.  However, I feel that Flopp more closely captures the look of the real product.  The stark, snow-whiteness of the marshmallow contents shines through better.  Tough call.  Both excellent though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 11, 2018, 04:38:22 AM
Sunstroke Creature Crackers and Sunshine Animal Crackers...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/q5azb9fwn/sunstroke_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q5azb9fwn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ur73jrtrr/Sunshine_Animal_Crackers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ur73jrtrr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 11, 2018, 05:52:19 AM
Sunstroke Creature Crackers and Sunshine Animal Crackers...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/q5azb9fwn/sunstroke_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q5azb9fwn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ur73jrtrr/Sunshine_Animal_Crackers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ur73jrtrr/)

I love the Creature Crackers gag, and too much sunshine will give you sun stroke, so the brand name is good, too.  The Wacky does a great job on the packaging, and I love the monster crackers, especially the vampire bat.  The tagline is great!  Don't think I'd change a thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 11, 2018, 06:02:25 AM
Great title!  Another one of my favorites!

As a boy at the time, I also collected "monster" cards that featured black and white scenes of Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, the Wolfman, Godzilla, the Mummy, the Invisible Man, King Kong, etc., as well as scenes from sci-fi B movies.  (Can't recall what the name of the set was, though.  Perhaps there were even multiple sets?)  In any event, it was nice to see some of these creatures parodied and assembled together in one place.  In a way, it was kind of like seeing old friends once again, a reunion.

In retrospect, this title seems dated, however, because of these very creatures which came to represent monster cinema up until that point.  At the time, though, they were the A list monsters, the icons, the top dogs.  Freddy, Jason, Chucky, Ghostface, etc. were all to come later.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 11, 2018, 06:25:16 AM
Great title!  Another one of my favorites!

As a boy at the time, I also collected "monster" cards that featured black and white scenes of Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, the Wolfman, Godzilla, the Mummy, the Invisible Man, King Kong, etc., as well as scenes from sci-fi B movies.  (Can't recall what the name of the set was, though.  Perhaps there were even multiple sets?)  In any event, it was nice to see some of these creatures parodied and assembled together in one place.  In a way, it was kind of like seeing old friends once again, a reunion.

In retrospect, this title seems dated, however, because of these very creatures which came to represent monster cinema up until that point.  At the time, though, they were the A list monsters, the icons, the top dogs.  Freddy, Jason, Chucky, Ghostface, etc. were all to come later.
BB, the name of the series (which was also from Topps) was You'll Die Laughing (although the wrapper said Creature Features). There were two series that made up one whole set. Most of the pictures came from Universal and American International Pictures films. I used to collect them, too, though I never finished the series (and I lost all the cards years ago).

By the way, what did you think about my July 5th post above about the London Zoo's rats (and a few other things)? I'd have thought you'd have responded to it long before now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 11, 2018, 07:52:02 AM

In retrospect, this title seems dated, however, because of these very creatures which came to represent monster cinema up until that point.  At the time, though, they were the A list monsters, the icons, the top dogs.  Freddy, Jason, Chucky, Ghostface, etc. were all to come later.

To me, those are evil people, not creatures.
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Post by: Zenergizer on July 11, 2018, 08:31:35 AM
great title, and yet another product I never recall seeing in the "real world."

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Post by: sco(o)t on July 11, 2018, 11:37:07 AM
I give this one two pigeons.   :great:   :great:   We did have Sunshine products in our area but they were always considered the second option if the store was out of the more well known brand.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 11, 2018, 02:36:26 PM
To me, those are evil people, not creatures.

Yeah, I can see your point.  Still, though, the creatures seem dated.

As far as creatures go, there hasn't been that many of late that would make the top tier of the creature pantheon.  I would definitely say the Alien, yet I really can't think of anything else.  Possibly Pinhead from the Hellraiser franchise, but he is more of an evil person.  J. J. Abrams' Cloverfield monster was conceived to be iconic, yet it seems that Abrams has had his head up his ass insofar as the rest of the franchise is concerned, and I suspect the original monster will never pan out to anything and remain just a one hit wonder.  Come to think of it, we could use a new evil creature and a new evil person.  Hollywood hasn't had either for the longest time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 11, 2018, 03:38:03 PM
BB, the name of the series (which was also from Topps) was You'll Die Laughing (although the wrapper said Creature Features). There were two series that made up one whole set. Most of the pictures came from Universal and American International Pictures films. I used to collect them, too, though I never finished the series (and I lost all the cards years ago).

By the way, what did you think about my July 5th post above about the London Zoo's rats (and a few other things)? I'd have thought you'd have responded to it long before now.

Thanks, Mikecho.  I saved a book from my youth, "Great Monsters of the Movies," in which I had taped some of these creature cards to the inside covers and pages with partial text (to supplement the original book.  Pretty clever or what?  Now the cards are worthless.)  Well, I just dusted it off, peeled off one of the cards, and, lo and behold, you are right!  The series is, indeed, called "You'll Die Laughing."

Here is an image of card #126, the one I peeled off.  Gotta love it!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6laowyq2v/s-l1600-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6laowyq2v/)

As far as your other post, I'm glad you mentioned it, because I hadn't seen it.  Must have gotten buried beneath a few subsequent posts.

I'm pretty sure that I have the Uncle Remus edition you mentioned (only I can't immediately put my finger on it, and it's driving me crazy!)  And you're absolutely right, there is not a dull page to be found.  Even more, I love to read these stories aloud.  It's kind of like cracking a code.  Once you've mastered it, the words just flow like smooth water.

When I mentioned rats, I appreciate and admire them in many ways, but there's nothing quite like having them as pets.  In this regard, I absolutely love them.  Most people would get all squeamish at the mere mention of the horrific idea of keeping pet rats and think you are disturbed, but if I talk to anyone who has had pet rats, we usually find ourselves in agreement, that being of all the small animals, rats are the most unique and intelligent.  They're amazing, they truly are.  If I wasn't so adverse to caging animals up now, I would probably still have pet rats.  Perhaps someday (when I retire and have some open space in Illinois,) I'll build a large enclosure with a zillion nooks and crannies and have a colony of a two dozen or so rats.  Then it would be kind of like what you saw at the zoo.  It would be cool.

When you have a minute, check out this temple in Jaipur, India:

https://youtu.be/X2g7myxm5aQ
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 11, 2018, 04:12:12 PM
Thanks, Mikecho.  I saved a book from my youth, "Great Monsters of the Movies," in which I had taped some of these creature cards to the inside covers and pages with partial text (to supplement the original book.  Pretty clever or what?  Now the cards are worthless.)  Well, I just dusted it off, peeled off one of the cards, and, lo and behold, you are right!  The series is, indeed, called "You'll Die Laughing."

Here is an image of card #126, the one I peeled off.  Gotta love it!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6laowyq2v/s-l1600-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6laowyq2v/)

As far as your other post, I'm glad you mentioned it, because I hadn't seen it.  Must have gotten buried beneath a few subsequent posts.

I'm pretty sure that I have the Uncle Remus edition you mentioned (only I can't immediately put my finger on it, and it's driving me crazy!)  And you're absolutely right, there is not a dull page to be found.  Even more, I love to read these stories aloud.  It's kind of like cracking a code.  Once you've mastered it, the words just flow like smooth water.

When I mentioned rats, I appreciate and admire them in many ways, but there's nothing quite like having them as pets.  In this regard, I absolutely love them.  Most people would get all squeamish at the mere mention of the horrific idea of keeping pet rats and think you are disturbed, but if I talk to anyone who has had pet rats, we usually find ourselves in agreement, that being of all the small animals, rats are the most unique and intelligent.  They're amazing, they truly are.  If I wasn't so adverse to caging animals up now, I would probably still have pet rats.  Perhaps someday (when I retire and have some open space in Illinois,) I'll build a large enclosure with a zillion nooks and crannies and have a colony of a two dozen or so rats.  Then it would be kind of like what you saw at the zoo.  It would be cool.

When you have a minute, check out this temple in Jaipur, India:

https://youtu.be/X2g7myxm5aQ
That video was great! I remember first reading about this temple in an article from a 1970s issue of National Geographic called "The Rat: Lapdog of the Devil". Very good reading if you can get it. I think that it was dated June or July 1977, but I'm not completely sure. I'd know the issue if I saw it, though. The cover photo is definitely up there somewhere in my memory banks.

Did you see the part on my post about both Willard (1971) and Ben (1972) now being on DVD/Blu-ray combos for the first time in who knows how many years? I'd like to have your take on those two and Willard (2003) as well. Did you also know that the book that inspired these three films, Ratman's Notebooks by Stephen Gilbert, is back in print in paperback also? And let's not forget James Herbert's trilogy of books, The Rats (1974), Lair (1979) and Domain (1984). These three paperbacks together make Gilbert's book look like Dick and Jane, believe me, they do! I'll try to find out if they're all still in print, too.

UPDATE: Yes, they're all still in print! All these books and movies are very good, if you wish to have them. Hope to hear from you soon!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on July 11, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
Sunstroke Creature Crackers and Sunshine Animal Crackers...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/q5azb9fwn/sunstroke_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q5azb9fwn/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ur73jrtrr/Sunshine_Animal_Crackers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ur73jrtrr/)

 Back in the day, images of creatures/monsters were hard to come by. You had a few magazines here and there... but to have a bunch of them on a Wacky?  AWESOME!  One of, if not "MY" favorite Wacky. (still love the liquid filled wackys).

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 13, 2018, 07:37:27 PM
Here's one from my home town of Milwaukee...Blast Blew Ribbon and Pabst Blue Ribbon...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/gwpulk8iv/blast_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gwpulk8iv/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/3ska8wbc7/Pabst_Blue_Ribbon1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3ska8wbc7/)
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Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2018, 05:26:16 AM
Here's one from my home town of Milwaukee...Blast Blew Ribbon and Pabst Blue Ribbon...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/gwpulk8iv/blast_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gwpulk8iv/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/3ska8wbc7/Pabst_Blue_Ribbon1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3ska8wbc7/)

I love the way they nailed the writing, and the gag is great, especially with the tagline "The beer that made Milwaukee burp."  That tagline always makes me smile.  And the character is one of the best ever.

Hey Swiski - no comments yourself?
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Post by: BustedFinger on July 14, 2018, 08:57:26 AM
I wonder what made them choose the date of 1884 on this one?  The original product shows two dates of 1893 and 1844

And don't forget that the gag "The Beer That Made Milwaukee Burp" was originally used on Schmutz!
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Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2018, 09:20:28 AM

And don't forget that the gag "The Beer That Made Milwaukee Burp" was originally used on Schmutz!

I never saw the die-cuts when I was a kid, so that line was brand new to me when I pulled a Pabst.  Boy did I laugh! 
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Post by: Swiski on July 14, 2018, 09:54:18 AM
I love the way they nailed the writing, and the gag is great, especially with the tagline "The beer that made Milwaukee burp."  That tagline always makes me smile.  And the character is one of the best ever.

Hey Swiski - no comments yourself?

I love reading other people's critiques over my own. Many of you guys are historians that add extra facts about the parodies I never knew. Only thing I noticed is that the inner white circle on the blue ribbon is missing on the parody, where it's on the actual can.
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Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 14, 2018, 10:30:20 AM
really liked this one and the poster version too. only drawback for me was the pull tab on the top really looked odd.

first thing I did when I got the poster home from the store was to put the sticker version on it in the upper right.
(did the same with a couple other posters as well - Burpsi and Jail-O)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2018, 10:30:52 AM
I love reading other people's critiques over my own. Many of you guys are historians that add extra facts about the parodies I never knew. Only thing I noticed is that the inner white circle on the blue ribbon is missing on the parody, where it's on the actual can.

Although I never stopped collecting Wackys, I didn't discover the forums until after ANS1 was released, and so was not part of all the great research and discovery that took place back then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 14, 2018, 07:18:36 PM
I love reading other people's critiques over my own. Many of you guys are historians that add extra facts about the parodies I never knew. Only thing I noticed is that the inner white circle on the blue ribbon is missing on the parody, where it's on the actual can.
Also, the round part of the ribbon has been squished a bit, presumably to make space for the character.  There were a lot of other cases like this where dimensions were tinkered with to either accommodate a character or to fill the space on the finished card as best as possible.  Some obvious examples of the latter that come to mind are Big Buddy and Bloodweiser, both shorter and wider than their real product counterparts.
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Post by: Jean Nutty on July 14, 2018, 07:40:59 PM

really liked this one and the poster version too. only drawback for me was the pull tab on the top really looked odd.

They had to blacken the area around the halos the pull tab is floating on, for contrast, and I think that detracts from the effect.

     (http://i63.tinypic.com/21ovu42.png)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2018, 08:17:37 PM
Has it ever been explained why they completely changed the character?
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Post by: MoldRush on July 14, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
Just a guess, but the poster character looks like a Saunders piece, whereas the one on the sticker maybe not.
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Post by: Swiski on July 14, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Also, the round part of the ribbon has been squished a bit, presumably to make space for the character.  There were a lot of other cases like this where dimensions were tinkered with to either accommodate a character or to fill the space on the finished card as best as possible.  Some obvious examples of the latter that come to mind are Big Buddy and Bloodweiser, both shorter and wider than their real product counterparts.

The squished round part of the ribbon kind of resembles Stewie Griffin's head with a necktie.
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Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 15, 2018, 06:00:10 AM
They had to blacken the area around the halos the pull tab is floating on, for contrast, and I think that detracts from the effect.
thanks for the pic. I had forgotten about the floating pull tab on that one, and thought that was kind of neat.
I was referring to the sticker version, which doesn't have the ring and just the triangular punch out area.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 16, 2018, 07:46:06 PM
Hurtz and Heinz Ketchup. The keystone label shape has been consistent since 1876...


(https://s15.postimg.cc/99ojdx69j/hurtzketchup_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/99ojdx69j/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/s20ehixiv/Heinz_Ketchup.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s20ehixiv/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/62tzucj9j/3661685388_432711f750_o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/62tzucj9j/)
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Post by: Baked Bears on July 17, 2018, 05:14:01 AM
This parody was so true and on the mark.  You would hurt your hand trying to bang the darn ketchup out.  Now all we have are sissy plastic squeeze bottles that flow smoothly, squirt out the right amount, and don't leave a nasty clotted ketchup mess around the top.  Jeez!  The old bottles at least taught people how to build strength, perseverance, and a propensity for colorful language - not to mention a tolerance for ketchup slathered food when 3/4 of the contents came suddenly pouring out.
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Post by: MoldRush on July 17, 2018, 06:56:33 PM
I still see the old school glass bottles turn up occasionally in diners and such, but probably far less often than I'm imagining.  So the Wacky has that extra aspect for reminiscing purposes.

In a similar vein, I noticed that the label on current jars of marshmallow fluff look identical to the 1974 Wacky, like they were determined to never change it.  Gotta respect that.  There are sooooo many products I'd love to see go retro with their packaging.  Certain General Mills cereals have done a nice job with that in recent years.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 18, 2018, 04:54:44 AM
Hurtz and Heinz Ketchup. The keystone label shape has been consistent since 1876...


(https://s15.postimg.cc/99ojdx69j/hurtzketchup_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/99ojdx69j/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/s20ehixiv/Heinz_Ketchup.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s20ehixiv/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/62tzucj9j/3661685388_432711f750_o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/62tzucj9j/)

One of my all time favorites!  Fantastic gag, and I love the frustrated character.  I still buy Hurtz ketchup.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 18, 2018, 09:23:41 AM
This parody was so true and on the mark.  You would hurt your hand trying to bang the darn ketchup out.  Now all we have are sissy plastic squeeze bottles that flow smoothly, squirt out the right amount, and don't leave a nasty clotted ketchup mess around the top.  Jeez!  The old bottles at least taught people how to build strength, perseverance, and a propensity for colorful language - not to mention a tolerance for ketchup slathered food when 3/4 of the contents came suddenly pouring out.
And who could forget the time when they used "Anticipation" as the jingle and the slogan was "It's slo-o-o-w good."?
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Post by: Swiski on July 19, 2018, 07:29:02 PM
And last...but not least...closing out the 7th series...Mex-Pax and Max-Pax

Updated: includes the Mex-Pax poster, using a completely different character and a secret gun.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/a7c06yj7b/mexpax_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a7c06yj7b/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/ocmemvs0n/15a_mexpax_large.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ocmemvs0n/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/g89p420on/Max-_Pax2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g89p420on/)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 19, 2018, 07:50:56 PM
My first exposure to the 7th Series titles came in Reissue Series 1, and I did not see any non-repeated 7th titles until 1992, nearly 20 years after the fact.  In addition, I had zero familiarity with the Max-pax brand.  To this day, I've never seen it in stores.  So when I came upon this Wacky in 1992, it was a bit of a Twilight Zone feeling.  For a minute, it felt like a "fake" or "fantasy" Wacky, kind of surreal.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 23, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
New week, new series! Here is the first from the 8th Series - Knots and Knox...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6d8hra9hj/knots_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6d8hra9hj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/amd7tnfdj/Knox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/amd7tnfdj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 23, 2018, 08:11:57 AM
My first exposure to the 7th Series titles came in Reissue Series 1, and I did not see any non-repeated 7th titles until 1992, nearly 20 years after the fact.  In addition, I had zero familiarity with the Max-pax brand.  To this day, I've never seen it in stores.  So when I came upon this Wacky in 1992, it was a bit of a Twilight Zone feeling.  For a minute, it felt like a "fake" or "fantasy" Wacky, kind of surreal.
I remember Max-Pax. I think that my mom once used them to make her coffee.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on July 23, 2018, 09:19:23 AM
New week, new series! Here is the first from the 8th Series - Knots and Knox...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6d8hra9hj/knots_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6d8hra9hj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/amd7tnfdj/Knox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/amd7tnfdj/)

I gave this one a thumbs-up. Even though I didn't remember seeing the actual product, I saw enough magazine ads for Knox Gelatine to know that the packaging was dead-on.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 23, 2018, 02:53:01 PM
I gave this one a thumbs-up. Even though I didn't remember seeing the actual product, I saw enough magazine ads for Knox Gelatine to know that the packaging was dead-on.

Yep, they nailed the packaging, got some good gags in, and a cool cow (who I felt sorry for).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on July 23, 2018, 04:26:03 PM
New week, new series! Here is the first from the 8th Series - Knots and Knox...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6d8hra9hj/knots_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6d8hra9hj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/amd7tnfdj/Knox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/amd7tnfdj/)
This one was middling for me as a kid.

The original product is interesting as I don't think I've seen "ash" listed in the nutritional breakdown of my foods lately.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 24, 2018, 04:15:46 AM
New week, new series! Here is the first from the 8th Series - Knots and Knox...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/6d8hra9hj/knots_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6d8hra9hj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/amd7tnfdj/Knox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/amd7tnfdj/)

I've always liked this one, and don't know why..
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 26, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
Canadian Clod and Canadian Club...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/5vlnnnv9z/canadianclod_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5vlnnnv9z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/k21eixgfr/Canadian_Club_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k21eixgfr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 27, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
Canadian Clod and Canadian Club...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/5vlnnnv9z/canadianclod_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5vlnnnv9z/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/k21eixgfr/Canadian_Club_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/k21eixgfr/)

Another good example of what Norm Saunders could do with glass bottles.  Check out the glass colors "that shouldn't be" - the purples, blues, and greens that are not present in the original product - and yet all blend together in harmonious union in the parody.  It even looks like the reflection of a window (upper left, by hand) is painted into the parody bottle.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 27, 2018, 12:47:33 PM
Another good example of what Norm Saunders could do with glass bottles.  Check out the glass colors "that shouldn't be" - the purples, blues, and greens that are not present in the original product - and yet all blend together in harmonious union in the parody.  It even looks like the reflection of a window (upper left, by hand) is painted into the parody bottle.

I agree on his glass illustration! My Sink is one of my favorites with all the junk inside the bottle.

Here is an example of poor glass illustration....
(https://s33.postimg.cc/oiyjc9z6j/af6c87bc844a5f218003d1c8fc2fbe37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oiyjc9z6j/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on July 27, 2018, 02:32:18 PM
Here is an example of poor glass illustration....
(https://s33.postimg.cc/oiyjc9z6j/af6c87bc844a5f218003d1c8fc2fbe37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oiyjc9z6j/)
We know Blisterine isn't Norm, but do we know who it is? I don't recall that mystery ever being solved...though the painting gets the point across, it is def lower artistic standards.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 27, 2018, 02:57:10 PM
Another good example of what Norm Saunders could do with glass bottles.  Check out the glass colors "that shouldn't be" - the purples, blues, and greens that are not present in the original product - and yet all blend together in harmonious union in the parody.  It even looks like the reflection of a window (upper left, by hand) is painted into the parody bottle.

I never really got the gag on this one, possibly because I wasn't familiar with the product, but it was so beautifully painted I never cared.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on July 27, 2018, 03:51:34 PM
I agree on his glass illustration! My Sink is one of my favorites with all the junk inside the bottle.

Here is an example of poor glass illustration....
(https://s33.postimg.cc/oiyjc9z6j/af6c87bc844a5f218003d1c8fc2fbe37.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oiyjc9z6j/)

And the gag, Monster Mouthwash...Where's the monster. I did like this one because Listerine really tasted like gas!

Jim
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Post by: Swiski on July 27, 2018, 05:44:35 PM
Hex-Lax and Ex-Lax. Wondering if that voodoo mask on the parody is an authentic mask redrawn from reference photos or made up.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/wdrwdg4pj/hexlax_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wdrwdg4pj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/uahh5azmf/Ex-_Lax1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uahh5azmf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 31, 2018, 05:29:48 AM
Bam and Pam...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/3wwnzwnfb/bam_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3wwnzwnfb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5by8ooe8n/Pam.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5by8ooe8n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 31, 2018, 09:53:54 AM
Bam and Pam...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/3wwnzwnfb/bam_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3wwnzwnfb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5by8ooe8n/Pam.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5by8ooe8n/)

Curious tag line:  "Keep away from bridges and atomic power plants when NOT in use."  Does this imply it is okay when in use?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 31, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
Sounds like that's just an oddly roundabout way of saying "do not store near bridges or nuclear power plants", I.e., it's explosive.  "When in use" it's creating havoc on your stove, not in those dangerous places.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 03, 2018, 05:07:00 AM
Shot Tissue and Scot Tissue...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/lbax8fb93/shottissue_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lbax8fb93/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/6fce0zkgn/Scot_Tissue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fce0zkgn/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 04, 2018, 10:11:08 AM
Love the bullet-riddled concept.  Strong Wacky without the need for an added character, IMO.  Really wished they would have included this in one of the Flashback sets.  Having a generous supply of brand new shiny stickers for homemade magnets would have been nice.

Has anyone noticed how the 1982 album version looks a little better than the 8th original?  Colors look bolder.  At first I thought my 8th sticker alone was a little faded, but others I've looked at appear similar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 04, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Shot Tissue and Scot Tissue...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/lbax8fb93/shottissue_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lbax8fb93/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/6fce0zkgn/Scot_Tissue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fce0zkgn/)

I always thought this was a great gag, and I still use the name.  Good taglines, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 05, 2018, 02:38:42 PM
Yubum and Yuban coffee...


(https://s15.postimg.cc/lr2bj3dnr/yubum_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lr2bj3dnr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/jz9co7wvr/Yuban2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jz9co7wvr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 05, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
Not a bad gag, however I've never heard of Yuban coffee - then or now.  Was/is it a local brand?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 06, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Good gag and hobo tagline, as well as a well done character.  They nailed the packaging, which I never really knew since I never saw the brand.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 06, 2018, 12:04:06 PM
Wikipedia:
General Foods marketed decaffeinated coffee under various brand names such as "Sanka" from ce 1927, and "Brim" and "Maxim", the latter a freeze-dried instant coffee, from the 1950s. But it refrained from selling Maxwell House-labeled decaffeinated coffee products until 1983, when it introduced ground "Maxwell House Decaffeinated" into East Coast markets. (At the same time, it introduced a decaffeinated version of its long-established, lighter-tasting "Yuban" brand on the West Coast.) "Maxwell House Instant Decaffeinated Coffee" came to store shelves in 1985. A further modification of the decaf theme, "Maxwell House Lite", a "reduced-caffeine" blend, was introduced nationally in 1992 and in its instant form the following year.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on August 06, 2018, 12:40:50 PM
Yubum and Yuban coffee...
(https://s15.postimg.cc/lr2bj3dnr/yubum_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lr2bj3dnr/)

 (https://postimg.cc/image/jz9co7wvr/)

You've got to love the hobo's pinkie extension!

The layout is true to the original, but I don't like to see that much empty real estate on a Wacky. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on August 07, 2018, 06:14:46 AM
I wasn't too familiar with Yuban back then, and even now (is it still made?)
but seeing this gives me more confirmation that the artistry in incredible!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Scheres on August 07, 2018, 10:25:57 AM
Always had Yuban coffee around when I was a kid. must have been a west thing?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 07, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
Given that the Wacky generating creative team was east coast-based, it does make me wonder how a product regionally marketed in the west could have reached their crosshairs. In any case, a little Wacky product mystery &  mystique never hurt anybody.  It's kind of like looking at the Irish Wackys in that sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 08, 2018, 08:28:04 PM
Daffy and Davis Baking Powder...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/n1m8fqs53/daffy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n1m8fqs53/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/gb5r6bcp3/Davis_Baking_Powder.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gb5r6bcp3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 09, 2018, 02:15:01 AM
Daffy and Davis Baking Powder...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/n1m8fqs53/daffy_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n1m8fqs53/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/gb5r6bcp3/Davis_Baking_Powder.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gb5r6bcp3/)

I always loved this gag, and I stuck a double on the can in our pantry.  The tagline about quacks is good, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 09, 2018, 05:28:11 AM
I always loved this gag, and I stuck a double on the can in our pantry.  The tagline about quacks is good, too.

Here's another product I was not aware of in our area. I always assumed Daffy was a parody of a product called Duffy Baking Powder. Wondering if Warner Brothers was upset they used Daffy Duck without permission. Is there a story with this?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 09, 2018, 05:39:57 AM
Here's another product I was not aware of in our area. I always assumed Daffy was a parody of a product called Duffy Baking Powder. Wondering if Warner Brothers was upset they used Daffy Duck without permission. Is there a story with this?

I've wondered about Warner Brothers as well, now that I know about copyrights.  But, it wasn't their product, so maybe they considered it free publicity?  Or, perhaps Wackys were completely under their radar because they didn't actually market typical grocery/pharmacy products?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on August 09, 2018, 08:05:24 AM
It may have something to do with Warner Brothers inadvertently forgetting to renew the copyright on some of their original cartoons. Some of the earliest releases are now in the public domain (including Daffy, Bugs, and Elmer). As soon as they realized their mistake, WB renewed copyrights on all of the newer versions of the characters, but that may be the reason why Topps could print Daffy Baking Powder.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 09, 2018, 03:52:54 PM
It may have something to do with Warner Brothers inadvertently forgetting to renew the copyright on some of their original cartoons. Some of the earliest releases are now in the public domain (including Daffy, Bugs, and Elmer). As soon as they realized their mistake, WB renewed copyrights on all of the newer versions of the characters, but that may be the reason why Topps could print Daffy Baking Powder.

I thought about that, too - that is one early Daffy Duck!

Some of the early cartoons are hard to find, but very funny.  B&W Popeye cartoons are SOOOO much better than some of the later ones.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 09, 2018, 07:19:11 PM
In a similar vein, I've always felt that the duck character in Quacker Oats was a nod to Donald Duck.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 09, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
It may have something to do with Warner Brothers inadvertently forgetting to renew the copyright on some of their original cartoons. Some of the earliest releases are now in the public domain (including Daffy, Bugs, and Elmer). As soon as they realized their mistake, WB renewed copyrights on all of the newer versions of the characters, but that may be the reason why Topps could print Daffy Baking Powder.

This may be, however how does this explain "Porkay" from ANS6 thirty-three years later?

(https://s8.postimg.cc/rb0sf3zxt/porkay-art.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rb0sf3zxt/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 09, 2018, 08:03:11 PM
Our region of the country has a chain of grocery stores called Piggly Wiggly that were around long before I was born. I always thought their pig mascot was a rip-off of Porky the Pig.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/t7xsgsyqf/Piggly-_Wiggly-logo_stacked_2017.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/t7xsgsyqf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 09, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
Looks like he could be a close cousin!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 10, 2018, 09:48:51 AM
Continually combatting crickets...or C3 for short...here is the next one:

Dr. Popper and Dr. Pepper...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4hvjitbfr/drpopper_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hvjitbfr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kg498zfyf/Dr._Pepper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kg498zfyf/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 10, 2018, 12:28:46 PM
Continually combatting crickets...or C3 for short...here is the next one:

Dr. Popper and Dr. Pepper...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4hvjitbfr/drpopper_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hvjitbfr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kg498zfyf/Dr._Pepper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kg498zfyf/)

A classic. I love the parodies where a one letter change is sufficient. It's the character that make this one a winner.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 10, 2018, 03:02:29 PM
Continually combatting crickets...or C3 for short...here is the next one:

Dr. Popper and Dr. Pepper...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4hvjitbfr/drpopper_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hvjitbfr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kg498zfyf/Dr._Pepper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kg498zfyf/)

Please don't go too fast!!  I'll try to get to this tomorrow, gotta go make dinner now  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 10, 2018, 06:02:30 PM
Continually combatting crickets...or C3 for short...here is the next one:

Dr. Popper and Dr. Pepper...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4hvjitbfr/drpopper_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hvjitbfr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kg498zfyf/Dr._Pepper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kg498zfyf/)
Nice.  Simple but effective Wacky.  Iconic and instantly recognizable product graphics translate well to the parody.  I vaguely remember seeing this one stuck somewhere back in the day.  The separation of head from body is a little scary to my 7-year old self, and the rubber glove is a subtle reminder of Slaytex Living Gloves, which was the most violent and terrifying Wacky to me back then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 15, 2018, 04:48:50 AM
Mop & Glop and Mop & Glo. I love the "Wormy Packages" creatures!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/qmp1pc113/mopandglop_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qmp1pc113/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/wavcgcfp3/Mop_Glo.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wavcgcfp3/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ratchet007 on August 15, 2018, 05:22:56 AM
Never understood why the tag line says "You Will Recognize Your Floor". Shouldn't it be "You WON'T Recognize Your Floor"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 15, 2018, 08:47:52 AM
Never understood why the tag line says "You Will Recognize Your Floor". Shouldn't it be "You WON'T Recognize Your Floor"?

I was confused by this one, too.  However, if it is read as "You Will Recognize Your Floor!" - with an emphasis on "Will," along with the exclamation point - the statement becomes something more like a command.  For the most part, floors are plain, ordinary, something to be walked on, and usually never given a second glance, however with "Mop & Glop" your floor will turn into something that definitely grabs and commands your attention.

(Or maybe it's just a grammatical mistake, and the word "Not" was left out of the tagline?)

Love the Wormy Packages creatures, too.  Brings the parody to an entirely different level.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on August 15, 2018, 10:49:36 AM
always loved this one, and I appreciate it much more seeing the fantastic
work on the container.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on August 15, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
Never understood why the tag line says "You Will Recognize Your Floor". Shouldn't it be "You WON'T Recognize Your Floor"?
If this old man remembers properly, the original ad line around this time was "you won't recognize your floor", meaning that Mop & Glo would do such an incredible job cleaning it, you wouldn't recognize it. Hence, the reversal on the Wacky, to "will", implying that it will still look bad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 15, 2018, 04:11:22 PM
it's no Top Slob, but was another well done Wacky with great critters on it.

and just now seeing the original product for the first time, I'm far more impressed with this one.
I didn't realize that exact woman was on the label, or that creepin' was spoofing beacon. Excellent
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 16, 2018, 02:30:38 AM
Good point.  The fact that the character is part of the original label and not an added embellishment is a nice little bonus.  And the matching, right down to the clothing, is too funny.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 16, 2018, 03:21:40 AM
Continually combatting crickets...or C3 for short...here is the next one:

Dr. Popper and Dr. Pepper...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/4hvjitbfr/drpopper_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4hvjitbfr/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kg498zfyf/Dr._Pepper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kg498zfyf/)

I love this gag, and still use the Wacky name for the product.  Great character, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 16, 2018, 03:28:44 AM
Mop & Glop is a great gag.  I remember sticking one on the container we had in the kitchen.  I love how they changed the character, and the worms are a nice touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on August 16, 2018, 08:05:35 AM
I never noticed how the two women are dressed similar, good catch!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 16, 2018, 07:53:15 PM
Lipoff and Lipton. I always felt bad for those poor fish!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/avdtulntz/lipoff_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/avdtulntz/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7brw4t0jr/Lipton_Cup_Soup.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7brw4t0jr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 17, 2018, 09:03:53 AM
The fish are a nice touch, however they don't go with the word "chicken."  Or "slop."  Or anything, for that matter, save maybe water.  The gags are reaching for this, that, and the other (scalding, slop, and chicken,) yet the fish are just too far of a stretch IMO.  Perhaps "chicken" should have been changed to "sicken" and include other garbage (cigarette butts, egg shells, bottle caps, as well as the fish?)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 17, 2018, 03:35:24 PM
As an aside, has anyone ever noticed the inordinate number of "stand alone" heads featured in the 8th series?  That is, heads that aren't connected to a body?  (Like the teacher's head and boy's head in "Gadzooka.")  You find a few examples of this here and there, particularly in the 1st and 2nd series, but Series 8 takes the record.

"Dr. Popper" - the head has popped off the body
"Hostile Thinkies" - there's just those two weird blue and green heads
"Hopeless Snowballs" a snowball is striking a "floating" head
"Kentucky Fried Fingers" - the Colonel's head isn't connected to anything
"Burpsi-Cola" - again showing the dangers of gassy soft drinks
"Kleenaxe Tissues" - no comment necessary
"Rolaches" - no body
"Smoocher's Jam" - no lovers' bodies
"Scary Lee" - no vampire's body

Several other parodies primarily show heads as well, with very little body showing: "Knots," "Daffy," "Scorch, "Cheep," "Choke-Up," "Bone Ami" (the skull,) "Yikes," and "Ivery Snow."  Even in "Kong Fu," the ape is giving a karate chop to a very shadowed neck.

When you find this much of something going on, what might have been considered coincidence instead begins to point toward obsession.  Perhaps someone gave Jay and/or Norm a head's up that their heads might be on the chopping block and this was their way of trying to head things off?

(https://s22.postimg.cc/lsi8orku5/kleenaxe_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lsi8orku5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on August 17, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
.

When you find this much of something going on, what might have been considered coincidence instead begins to point toward obsession.  Perhaps someone gave Jay and/or Norm a head's up that their heads might be on the chopping block and this was their way of trying to head things off?


Ha! I see what you did there!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 18, 2018, 04:55:22 AM
Lipoff and Lipton. I always felt bad for those poor fish!

(https://s15.postimg.cc/avdtulntz/lipoff_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/avdtulntz/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/7brw4t0jr/Lipton_Cup_Soup.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/7brw4t0jr/)

I never got this one.  "Lipoff" could have been good if there was something sharp in the soup, and then it could have been "Cup-a-Sharp" and maybe Broken Glass Soup.  Then the tagline about burning yourself in an instant could have been "cut yourself" in an instant, eliminating the reference to boiling water, which never made sense to me, and then it could be "6 shards per serving." 

"Cup-a-Slop" could have worked with junk, or sludge in the soup, but that, too, wouldn't really have gone with the other taglines.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 19, 2018, 05:06:42 AM
Baked Bears - funny observation on the bodieless heads! Maybe Topps was just playing head games with the artists

I agree with the other comments on the joke that doesn't seem to work with what's going on in the illustration. A few chicken heads with X eyes and tongues hanging out would have been better than the fish. Regarding the artwork, the spout missing the cracked mug and pouring on the table is a nice parody of the original box photo.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 19, 2018, 05:10:23 AM
Up next is Scorch and Scope. Fire must be the hardest thing to illustrate accurately. Something doesn't look right with the flames. I like the Godzilla illustration in the bottle's oval indentation.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/h5gg3mo9j/scorch_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h5gg3mo9j/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/4qto3hc8n/Scope1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4qto3hc8n/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 19, 2018, 09:11:50 AM
I agree about the flames.  They do look odd and remind me in a sense of animal hair (specially the flames coming from the top of the bottle,) albeit red, orange, and yellow.  Even so, the gag still comes across.

Fire - or should I say flames - are, indeed, probably very difficult to capture.  Even on television and in movies, flames (such as those in a fireplace, campfire, or even candles on a birthday cake) never quite look right to me.  They always appear too white and lack the subtle nuances of ever-shifting, flickering flames that one witnesses firsthand.  I suppose one way to compensate for this (in painting) would be to add more color such as orange and even red, but then you run the risk of creating a cartoonish-looking fire which is what we have in "Scorch" or "Blisterine."

(https://s22.postimg.cc/bhljulq65/blisterine_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bhljulq65/)

Below is a photograph of a campfire.  Not a bad picture, however if we were there in person, those flames would look quite different.  They certainly wouldn't be white.  (When has anyone ever seen white fire?)  And I strongly doubt the flames would be red, either.  Yeah, I'd say that fire would even present a challenge to the best of artists.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ldmmu1tbh/hqdefault-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ldmmu1tbh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 19, 2018, 09:18:11 AM
Baked Bears - funny observation on the bodieless heads! Maybe Topps was just playing head games with the artists?

Or maybe Jay was reading too much Alice in Wonderland?

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5up6x7ve5/15820055461_2d80390d1c_b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5up6x7ve5/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 20, 2018, 03:21:49 PM
Here's a fun one! Hostile Thinkies and Hostess Twinkies. The "Blow Your Mind" tagline seems a little morbid in today's world with all the gun violence, showing the two heads with exploded craniums.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/68usdcqtj/hostilethinkies_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/68usdcqtj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5jc010dfb/Twinkies1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jc010dfb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/xjg3laolj/Twinkies3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xjg3laolj/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 20, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
This and "All-Brain" are up there among my favorites.  Gotta love pink brain matter!

(https://s22.postimg.cc/fx17rflql/allbrain_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fx17rflql/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 23, 2018, 08:25:03 AM
This and "All-Brain" are up there among my favorites.  Gotta love pink brain matter!

(https://s22.postimg.cc/fx17rflql/allbrain_white_front_small_smaller_images.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fx17rflql/)

OK, maybe I have always been a little slow, but I never really understood the "Free!  Antidote inside!" tag line.  Antidote to what?  What I am missing here? Anyone's wisdom here would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 23, 2018, 12:28:31 PM
OK, maybe I have always been a little slow, but I never really understood the "Free!  Antidote inside!" tag line.  Antidote to what?  What I am missing here? Anyone's wisdom here would be appreciated!

Antidote to the All-Brain itself, so I always assumed. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on August 23, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
I always assumed that Kooloffs was more of a play on the Boris Karloff name than Kellogg's. Is there a connection to a Boris Karloff movie about brains that I'm missing?? Maybe the "antidote" is in reference to that?

Not a horror fan, so, I got nothing  :-\
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 23, 2018, 04:56:54 PM
Probably next to impossible to know exactly why they chose those words, but it sounds like you guys are in the ballpark.  Maybe the specific box used in the parody had a prize with a yellow starburst, and they just switched the prize description to something ghoulish-sounding, in keeping with the macabre theme of brain matter.  On the other hand, it's unlikely that All-Bran ever offered a prize; you couldn't get any further from a kiddie cereal with that choice.  Probably was just done to jazz up an otherwise extremely bland box design.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 26, 2018, 06:44:01 AM
Here's a fun one! Hostile Thinkies and Hostess Twinkies. The "Blow Your Mind" tagline seems a little morbid in today's world with all the gun violence, showing the two heads with exploded craniums.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/68usdcqtj/hostilethinkies_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/68usdcqtj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5jc010dfb/Twinkies1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jc010dfb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/xjg3laolj/Twinkies3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xjg3laolj/)

I've always liked this one because of all the colors. The two heads reminded me of an animated short from either Sesame Street or the Electric Company where two cartoon heads talked about the smog and fog. The transparent plastic sealed bag is a nice rendering. I found the correct matching package, but its a little older and the logo is a bit different, so I found the correct logo used later on.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 26, 2018, 07:56:03 AM
Antidote to the All-Brain itself, so I always assumed.

Same here.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 26, 2018, 10:01:56 AM
I always assumed that Kooloffs was more of a play on the Boris Karloff name than Kellogg's. Is there a connection to a Boris Karloff movie about brains that I'm missing?

Frankenstein.  The monster (Karloff) ends up with an abnormal brain after the hunchbacked assistant, Fritz, drops a glass jar containing the normal brain he was sent to steal.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/jyj9nu6jh/frankenstein31_theabnormalbrain_FC_470x264_082620160702.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/jyj9nu6jh/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 26, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
Continuing with the 8th series - Cheep and Cheer detergent. Also shown is Sneer from the 6th Series for additional comparison...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/795cl502f/cheep_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/795cl502f/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/mhv9yxgw7/sneer_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mhv9yxgw7/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/cxbnc31uv/Cheer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cxbnc31uv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 27, 2018, 03:58:44 AM
I think Cheep is a great gag, and the tagline and bird fit in just perfectly.  They also nailed the box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 27, 2018, 05:47:00 AM
I think Cheep is a great gag, and the tagline and bird fit in just perfectly.  They also nailed the box.

I agree.  My vote is for "Cheep."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on August 27, 2018, 03:08:26 PM
Frankenstein.  The monster (Karloff) ends up with an abnormal brain after the hunchbacked assistant, Fritz, drops a glass jar containing the normal brain he was sent to steal.
Abby something...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 27, 2018, 05:01:05 PM
Abby something...

Gotta love Marty Feldman's Igor.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on August 28, 2018, 04:24:09 AM
Gotta love Marty Feldman's Igor.

What hump?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on August 28, 2018, 09:13:25 AM
Gotta love those Wonderful Knockers too!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 28, 2018, 02:47:15 PM
What hump?

I love how it shifted!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on August 28, 2018, 06:23:58 PM
Here's a fun one! Hostile Thinkies and Hostess Twinkies. The "Blow Your Mind" tagline seems a little morbid in today's world with all the gun violence, showing the two heads with exploded craniums.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/68usdcqtj/hostilethinkies_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/68usdcqtj/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5jc010dfb/Twinkies1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5jc010dfb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/xjg3laolj/Twinkies3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xjg3laolj/)
"Blow one's mind" was an example of 1970s slang. It'd be like "Mind blown!" today.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 02, 2018, 11:45:15 AM
Next up...Paid and Raid.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/fxr7hbuzb/paidkillers_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fxr7hbuzb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5axebx9zb/Raid.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5axebx9zb/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 02, 2018, 01:37:12 PM
More gangstas!  I really don't know what kind of reception this one would get today, though I'm sure kids would still love it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 02, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
More gangstas!  I really don't know what kind of reception this one would get today, though I'm sure kids would still love it.

Gangstas were probably a cool topic at the time due to the success of the Godfather movies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 06, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
Combatting crickets!! Here is Hopeless Snow Balls and Hostess Sno Balls...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/dg1psg40n/hopeless_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dg1psg40n/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kw0ze9uav/Hostess_Sno_Balls1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kw0ze9uav/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 06, 2018, 07:01:40 PM
Next up...Paid and Raid.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/fxr7hbuzb/paidkillers_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fxr7hbuzb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/5axebx9zb/Raid.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5axebx9zb/)

I kind of like this gag, and they nailed the can while adding a cool bug.The taglines go along well.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: vahsurfer on September 08, 2018, 07:05:35 AM

(https://s8.postimg.cc/x7uu5e6qp/20180831_132548.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x7uu5e6qp/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Alexeirex on September 08, 2018, 11:33:44 AM
The original Ditch Brothers! At The Rijksmuseum!
Alex

I guess the bad computer thing was a one day conundrum..

Wacky Ads #22 - Ditch Masters

Ditch Masters
Cheap Cigars
Ditchdiggers favorite smoke


Real Product
Dutch Masters
Cigars

(https://s15.postimg.cc/prew0skev/FEB86_C1_B-9_BEA-4_E22-870_F-_A379_BDBB504_B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/prew0skev/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 08, 2018, 12:27:58 PM
Gangstas were probably a cool topic at the time due to the success of the Godfather movies.
I agree. In fact, I've always thought that if The Godfather Part III had been made in the 1970s-say, 1976-it would've done much better than it did when it was finally made.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on September 08, 2018, 01:13:30 PM
(https://s8.postimg.cc/x7uu5e6qp/20180831_132548.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x7uu5e6qp/)

Ha! I'm still kind of amazed that they approved this one!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 08, 2018, 01:26:41 PM
Ha! I'm still kind of amazed that they approved this one!

It's fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 08, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Combatting crickets!! Here is Hopeless Snow Balls and Hostess Sno Balls...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/dg1psg40n/hopeless_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dg1psg40n/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/kw0ze9uav/Hostess_Sno_Balls1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kw0ze9uav/)

A cricket kept me up most of last night.......

As for Hopeless, I really like this gag, and prefer it to Hostage.  Nicely done package and tagline.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 12, 2018, 05:03:30 AM
Biva and Viva...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/x4td3u8lz/biva_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x4td3u8lz/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/r3vo6sguv/Viva.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r3vo6sguv/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on September 12, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
nice, solid gag!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on September 12, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
I always liked this one for a bit of an abstract reason. By naming in BIVA,  I think most people will think of a beaver just because the name is close enough and not many other similar sounding words. They didn't hit us over the head with the gag and call it BEAVER towels.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 12, 2018, 05:10:51 PM
Kind of interesting how you'll see certain product types in multiples in a given series, or consecutive series.  Like they found a previously untapped or underutilized product type and go to it more than once to take advantage.  Two different hostess products and two different towel/tissue rolls in this series, cans of soda or beer in 7-8-9-10-11 after doing mostly bottles in earlier Series, more toy and game products in the later series, that sort of thing.  You can find various little trends in product types if you look for them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 12, 2018, 10:10:20 PM
Kind of interesting how you'll see certain product types in multiples in a given series, or consecutive series.  Like they found a previously untapped or underutilized product type and go to it more than once to take advantage.  Two different hostess products and two different towel/tissue rolls in this series, cans of soda or beer in 7-8-9-10-11 after doing mostly bottles in earlier Series, more toy and game products in the later series, that sort of thing.  You can find various little trends in product types if you look for them.

I'm not looking forward to the series with the batch of magazine parodies. None of those will have matches to an exact issue's cover. It was all creative liberty.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 13, 2018, 02:23:40 AM
That may not be true in every case.  Though I did not research all the magazines, I found that Umbrella from the 13th has a Vampirella counterpart with a very similar cover.  That issue is from 1973 or 74, but remember that all the magazines from the later series were originally planned to be part of an all-magazine 11th series.  While a bunch were subsequently pushed back into the 13th, 14th and 15th, all issued 1975, the associated parodies were likely created at least a year earlier.

Conversely, I could not find a real-product counterpart matching Vague magazine from Old School 6, so I too wonder if some of the magazine parodies are completely imagined.  I don't recall Dave ever posting the real product images from OS6 as he normally has on prior series; I'd be interested to see if Vague was a close match to the real product used.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 13, 2018, 10:13:16 AM
That may not be true in every case.  Though I did not research all the magazines, I found that Umbrella from the 13th has a Vampirella counterpart with a very similar cover.  That issue is from 1973 or 74, but remember that all the magazines from the later series were originally planned to be part of an all-magazine 11th series.  While a bunch were subsequently pushed back into the 13th, 14th and 15th, all issued 1975, the associated parodies were likely created at least a year earlier.

Conversely, I could not find a real-product counterpart matching Vague magazine from Old School 6, so I too wonder if some of the magazine parodies are completely imagined.  I don't recall Dave ever posting the real product images from OS6 as he normally has on prior series; I'd be interested to see if Vague was a close match to the real product used.
If you, or anyone else, want to find out more about the unmade Wacky Magazines series and see images of them, go to lostwackys.com and you'll find a whole section on them. I hope this helps you out.

UPDATE: Here's the magazine titles that were intended to be in the 11th series, but were dropped:

*Tomb Magazine (Time Magazine, released in OLDS 5),
*Rotting Zone (Rolling Stone, still unreleased (hopefully that'll change, someday)),
*Schnozmopolitan (Cosmopolitan, released in 1982 Album series, FB 1, and ANS7 (the last one as a foil sticker).

Now here's the unmade Wackys from the magazine series that I've seen in the aforementioned section:

*Creep (Creem),
*Eater's Digest (Reader's Digest),
*Foodoplay (Photoplay),
*Grumpy Dumpty's Magazine (Humpty Dumpty's Magazine),
*HenHouse (Penthouse),
*Madamgazelle (Mademoiselle),
*Roman's Day (Woman's Day),
*Salami Street Magazine (Sesame Street Magazine),
*Song Hates Magazine (Song Hits Magazine),
*True Confetti (True Confessions),
*Zit Parader (Hit Parader).

Those are just the ones that I've seen on the website. Who knows how many other roughs for this unmade series may be out there, still undiscovered?

I also think that any one of these would be perfect for future OLDS releases. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 15, 2018, 04:29:53 AM
Kentucky Fried Fingers and Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Not sure why they didn't thicken the red stripes to put the "It's Chicken Lickin' Good" gag inside. Maybe there is another container design out there with thinner red stripes? I couldn't find one.

A really nice classic gag, but it bugs me that the chicken head illustration is not centered in the white space. I also think the fingers coming out of the top should have been breaded and not floating in the green steaming acid.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/omnmxoqk7/kentuckyfriedfingers_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/omnmxoqk7/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/cxjn9s4rb/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cxjn9s4rb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/8bnj1fynr/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8bnj1fynr/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 15, 2018, 05:50:46 AM
Biva and Viva...

(https://s15.postimg.cc/x4td3u8lz/biva_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/x4td3u8lz/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/r3vo6sguv/Viva.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r3vo6sguv/)

I always liked this one as a kid - might have had something to do with being able to say "dam"   >(

I also was living near Pittsburgh, and we had family in Beaver County, so I really got the main gag.  Great gag, they nailed the packaging, and I still like it a lot.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on September 15, 2018, 07:14:01 AM
I always liked this one as a kid - might have had something to do with being able to say "dam"   >(

I also was living near Pittsburgh, and we had family in Beaver County, so I really got the main gag.  Great gag, they nailed the packaging, and I still like it a lot.

"Annoying" is the funniest part of the gag. I mean, how can anyone possibly be annoyed by a beaver?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on September 15, 2018, 05:49:19 PM
I mean, how can anyone possibly be annoyed by a beaver?
Au contraire mon frere! Beavers can be quite annoying to some of us. Their dam building can wreak havoc to property.

https://www.attickings.com/beavers-hardest-working-nuisance-youll-ever/
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on September 16, 2018, 07:07:53 AM
I guess it would depend on the beaver. I've always found them to be very helpful  ;)


(https://s15.postimg.cc/o4bhkuwif/beaver.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/o4bhkuwif/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: vahsurfer on September 16, 2018, 07:08:52 AM
Squirrels are cute too - They do LOTS of damage though!

#StayFurry
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 21, 2018, 04:21:54 PM
Kentucky Fried Fingers and Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Not sure why they didn't thicken the red stripes to put the "It's Chicken Lickin' Good" gag inside. Maybe there is another container design out there with thinner red stripes? I couldn't find one.

A really nice classic gag, but it bugs me that the chicken head illustration is not centered in the white space. I also think the fingers coming out of the top should have been breaded and not floating in the green steaming acid.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/omnmxoqk7/kentuckyfriedfingers_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/omnmxoqk7/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/cxjn9s4rb/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cxjn9s4rb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/8bnj1fynr/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8bnj1fynr/)

Bumping this to catch people up.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 21, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
Choke up and Close Up...

(https://i.postimg.cc/w3h471Xq/chokeup_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3h471Xq)(https://i.postimg.cc/SntDwChr/Close_Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SntDwChr)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 21, 2018, 05:59:40 PM
Thanks for putting the defibrillator to this thread.  It's the one I look forward to seeing updates on the most.

Now that I'm seeing the real product it occurs to me that I may have used this toothpaste quite a bit as a young lad.  I remember the smiling mouths and I definitely remember using red gel toothpaste with a cinnamon flavor.  I don't remember liking it much.  More of a mint guy.

Does it make much sense to randomly throw an ape on there and hope for some laughs?  Probably not.  Keep the mouths, change them to frowns or scowls, and put some crud on the teeth.  Call it 'Close Down', as in shut those mouths off to that awful toothpaste.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on September 21, 2018, 08:04:17 PM
Thanks for putting the defibrillator to this thread.  It's the one I look forward to seeing updates on the most.

Now that I'm seeing the real product it occurs to me that I may have used this toothpaste quite a bit as a young lad.  I remember the smiling mouths and I definitely remember using red gel toothpaste with a cinnamon flavor.  I don't remember liking it much.  More of a mint guy.

Does it make much sense to randomly throw an ape on there and hope for some laughs?  Probably not.  Keep the mouths, change them to frowns or scowls, and put some crud on the teeth.  Call it 'Close Down', as in shut those mouths off to that awful toothpaste.

Great concept! I never liked Choke Up much, the gags feel forced and the art never grabbed me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 22, 2018, 05:17:13 AM
Kentucky Fried Fingers and Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Not sure why they didn't thicken the red stripes to put the "It's Chicken Lickin' Good" gag inside. Maybe there is another container design out there with thinner red stripes? I couldn't find one.

A really nice classic gag, but it bugs me that the chicken head illustration is not centered in the white space. I also think the fingers coming out of the top should have been breaded and not floating in the green steaming acid.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/omnmxoqk7/kentuckyfriedfingers_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/omnmxoqk7/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/cxjn9s4rb/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/cxjn9s4rb/)(https://s15.postimg.cc/8bnj1fynr/Kentucky_Fried_Chicken2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8bnj1fynr/)

Guess I missed this one when you first posted it.

I've always liked this because of the main gag, and that fantastic chicken with a tie.  I still call it by the Wacky name, and was disappointed when the company changed to "KFC."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 22, 2018, 05:29:44 AM
Choke up and Close Up...

(https://i.postimg.cc/w3h471Xq/chokeup_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3h471Xq)(https://i.postimg.cc/SntDwChr/Close_Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SntDwChr)

I never really got this one.  Maybe if there was a picture of someone choking while brushing their teeth, and the taglines referenced that it's the toothpaste that that'll make you choke it would make more sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on September 22, 2018, 07:20:17 AM
I never really got this one.  Maybe if there was a picture of someone choking while brushing their teeth, and the taglines referenced that it's the toothpaste that that'll make you choke it would make more sense.

I think by the 7th series (maybe sooner), they were starting to run out of 1st-rate concepts. Not to say there weren't some really great ones in the latter series, but producing 16 series in 4 years must've been a huge challenge.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 23, 2018, 07:44:00 AM
Choke up and Close Up...

(https://i.postimg.cc/w3h471Xq/chokeup_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3h471Xq)(https://i.postimg.cc/SntDwChr/Close_Up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SntDwChr)

This gag doesn't have anything to do with toothpaste, per se, save for the "Choke-up" / "Close-up" play on words (and the ape's teeth which are in direct - and even subversive - contrast to the gleaming, perfect teeth featured on the actual product.)  "Choke up" means "to be unable to speak, act efficiently, etc., as because of fear, strong emotion, tension, etc."  Thus the menacing ape and the taglines, "super-frightening toothpaste" and "fang flavor" all make sense in this context, that being that this scary toothpaste will render you speechless out of fear.  Maybe not so much now, but at one time apes were considered scary.  An ape figured prominently in Poe's Murders at the Rue Morgue, and King Kong was considered a classic Hollywood monster (right up there with Frankenstein and Dracula,) as opposed to Peter Jackson's sympathetic ice skating Kong.  Additionally, I'm sure many of us here as children have pounded our chests in imitation of a frightening, savage gorilla (before we found out they were actually docile, cannabis-smoking creatures living in communion with nature.)

Also, Norm's ape is a good illustration IMO.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XXvfBMfV/Gorilla_Smoking.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXvfBMfV)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 24, 2018, 11:48:28 AM
This gag doesn't have anything to do with toothpaste, per se, save for the "Choke-up" / "Close-up" play on words (and the ape's teeth which are in direct - and even subversive - contrast to the gleaming, perfect teeth featured on the actual product.)  "Choke up" means "to be unable to speak, act efficiently, etc., as because of fear, strong emotion, tension, etc."  Thus the menacing ape and the taglines, "super-frightening toothpaste" and "fang flavor" all make sense in this context, that being that this scary toothpaste will render you speechless out of fear.  Maybe not so much now, but at one time apes were considered scary.  An ape figured prominently in Poe's Murders at the Rue Morgue, and King Kong was considered a classic Hollywood monster (right up there with Frankenstein and Dracula,) as opposed to Peter Jackson's sympathetic ice skating Kong.  Additionally, I'm sure many of us here as children have pounded our chests in imitation of a frightening, savage gorilla (before we found out they were actually docile, cannabis-smoking creatures living in communion with nature.)

Also, Norm's ape is a good illustration IMO.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XXvfBMfV/Gorilla_Smoking.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXvfBMfV)
Is that juvenile gorilla really smoking a cigarette, or is that Photoshopped? I can't tell. Also, does the genus Cannabis actually have any native species in Africa? If so, I've never seen, or heard of, gorillas smoking it in real life. That's got to be a gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 24, 2018, 02:15:01 PM
Is that juvenile gorilla really smoking a cigarette, or is that Photoshopped? I can't tell. Also, does the genus Cannabis actually have any native species in Africa? If so, I've never seen, or heard of, gorillas smoking it in real life. That's got to be a gag.

It's not a cigarette; It's a joint.  Gorillas (and other apes - chimpanzees, baboons) have been smoking as long as man.  They can even roll their own.  Opposable thumbs are the key factor.  That, and a steady supply of rolling papers (for which they collect and trade fruit such as mangoes, figs, melons, and kiwanoes.)  Interestingly enough, apes share their cannabis harvest (which is steady, due to the African equatorial climate) - even among other species of apes, thus it is not that uncommon to find the following:

(https://i.postimg.cc/56StzBFw/pbao_X6_X.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56StzBFw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on September 24, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
Bumping this to catch people up.

I always loved the detail and bright colors in this painting! I don't know if I was reading too much into the gag when I was a kid, but the fingers, in the upper-left, look like they are mimicking the 70's Yellow Pages "Let your fingers do the walking" ad. Also, the hand on the far right always looked like it was gearing up to flip the bird! (Just my take on this one!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8JdM6XK9/Kentucky_Fried_Fingers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JdM6XK9)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 24, 2018, 02:40:58 PM
I always loved the detail and bright colors in this painting! I don't know if I was reading too much into the gag when I was a kid, but the fingers, in the upper-left, look like they are mimicking the 70's Yellow Pages "Let your fingers do the walking" ad. Also, the hand on the far right always looked like it was gearing up to flip the bird! (Just my take on this one!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8JdM6XK9/Kentucky_Fried_Fingers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JdM6XK9)

I like your observations on the fingers!!  I didn't know about flipping the bird back then, and never thought of it as an adult.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 30, 2018, 05:10:07 AM
STD and STP. Today if they were to do the STD parody, it would be about Sexually Transmitted Diseases.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4/std_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4)(https://i.postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX/STP_oil1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 30, 2018, 07:22:56 AM
STD and STP. Today if they were to do the STD parody, it would be about Sexually Transmitted Diseases.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4/std_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4)(https://i.postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX/STP_oil1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX)

During renovations in one of the buildings I work in, I was temporarily located in a small office that was used by people working with STDs.  I've been moved back into my regular office, but to this day, I still have the Wacky on my printer.......

Good gag, some good taglines, but I don't get "Makes Racers Edgy."  The certainly nailed the can.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on September 30, 2018, 11:04:35 AM
I don't get "Makes Racers Edgy."
Though not on the package, STP had a slogan during this time "The Racer's Edge" (meaning, advantage).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 30, 2018, 02:24:59 PM
Though not on the package, STP had a slogan during this time "The Racer's Edge" (meaning, advantage).

As a kid growing up in Virginia, I listened to all the NASCAR races on the radio.  I remember a commercial from the '70s for STP that had lyrics "Petty's his name, racing's his game, STP, it's the racer's edge," but I can't seem to find that anywhere on the Internet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 30, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
Though not on the package, STP had a slogan during this time "The Racer's Edge" (meaning, advantage).

Thanks!  Now it makes sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on September 30, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
I remember a commercial from the '70s for STP that had lyrics "Petty's his name, racing's his game, STP, it's the racer's edge," but I can't seem to find that anywhere on the Internet.
Not exactly what you're referring to, but from 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uglA5-S9XXo
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 30, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
STD and STP. Today if they were to do the STD parody, it would be about Sexually Transmitted Diseases.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4/std_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hrtpjsv4)(https://i.postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX/STP_oil1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFdj9mNX)

As young kids my brothers and I were into slot cars, Hot Wheels / Matchboxes and building model cars, planes, tanks, etc using the little tube of glue and Testor's bottles of paint.  One of the most fun parts, where racing cars were involved, was taking that sheet of tiny advertisement decals and applying them to the body to make it look like a real stock car.  Many of those decals were gasoline and motor oil companies, such as STP, Pennzoil, Unocal 76, etc.  Kind of wish Wackys had tackled more of these vintage metal oil cans in their parodies.  Several recognizable and iconic brands went by the wayside.  Oh well, maybe Old School 7, 8, 9,...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 30, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
As young kids my brothers and I were into slot cars, Hot Wheels / Matchboxes and building model cars, planes, tanks, etc using the little tube of glue and Testor's bottles of paint.  One of the most fun parts, where racing cars were involved, was taking that sheet of tiny advertisement decals and applying them to the body to make it look like a real stock car.  Many of those decals were gasoline and motor oil companies, such as STP, Pennzoil, Unocal 76, etc.  Kind of wish Wackys had tackled more of these vintage metal oil cans in their parodies.  Several recognizable and iconic brands went by the wayside.  Oh well, maybe Old School 7, 8, 9,...

I think Gulp and Smell were the only two other gas-oil products.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 01, 2018, 02:59:01 AM
I think Gulp and Smell were the only two other gas-oil products.

How about Leek?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 01, 2018, 08:55:31 AM
How about Leek?

Oops. Forgot about that one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on October 01, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
I think Gulp and Smell were the only two other gas-oil products.

Also Castro and SIP and, arguably, V6. Or are we just talkin' O.S?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 01, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
I was only thinking O.S. when I made that point.  I have to say STD and Gulp were done well, but Smell-Ecch used a package design that I'm not sure anyone remembers ever seeing, and who's heard of Leek Oil Dripper from 7th (granted, a filter, not a motor oil proper).  I also remember Crazy Labels did a couple metal can motor oil parodies; not to say that any of the Crazy Labels were anything more than curiously cheesy, but it made me wish Wackys had taken a crack at a few more.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 01, 2018, 06:14:47 PM
I would have liked to have seen Mobile and Sinclair oil parodies.  I don't recall ever seeing a flying horse on a wacky, and dinosaurs are far and few between.

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3gDB215/674719e123f157c3c17d89db85a7018e--vintage-auto-vintage-tins.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3gDB215)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKG441ct/8713641b836d5d58102628955c903cdb.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKG441ct)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 02, 2018, 04:34:18 PM
This Springbok puzzle image gives a good idea of the variety, though I'm sure some might pre-date the OS era.

(https://i.postimg.cc/njKyb3mx/IMG_0071.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njKyb3mx)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 02, 2018, 04:48:59 PM
Wow, I actually recognize some of them as if it was yesterday.  Now you got me wondering if I still own a spout that one would drive into the top of the cans.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 02, 2018, 06:52:31 PM
I would have liked to have seen Mobile and Sinclair oil parodies.  I don't recall ever seeing a flying horse on a wacky, and dinosaurs are far and few between.

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3gDB215/674719e123f157c3c17d89db85a7018e--vintage-auto-vintage-tins.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3gDB215)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKG441ct/8713641b836d5d58102628955c903cdb.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKG441ct)
If you go to lostwackys.com and click on the Lost Wackys section, one of them is called Moobiloil and has a winged cow on it. Pity that it was never made.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 02, 2018, 08:56:11 PM
If you go to lostwackys.com and click on the Lost Wackys section, one of them is called Moobiloil and has a winged cow on it. Pity that it was never made.

Yep! Leave it to the great Jay Lynch to come up with these great oil can spoofs - Moobiloil and Onion 76! Wish they were finalized...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2/moobiloil.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2)(https://i.postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd/onion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 04, 2018, 08:14:37 PM
Bone Ami and Bon Ami...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKx51KbR/boneami_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKx51KbR)(https://i.postimg.cc/2bLS2YWc/Bon_Ami2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bLS2YWc)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 05, 2018, 03:06:39 AM
Nice ghoulish illustration.

(To any artist out there:  Why is it so difficult to reproduce the color gold?  Has it to do with the fact that it doesn't fit anywhere in the standard color spectrum?)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on October 05, 2018, 03:44:32 AM
Nice ghoulish illustration.

(To any artist out there:  Why is it so difficult to reproduce the color gold?  Has it to do with the fact that it doesn't fit anywhere in the standard color spectrum?)

Yep, that's (another) great Norm illustration! By the way, I think the original color of the product was yellow (not gold) but you bring up a good point: Reproducing gold (or any metallic colors) is tricky.  You have to use a lot of contrasting hues with varying spots of highlights and shadow to make it look real.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 05, 2018, 04:33:06 AM
I think is a great gag, and I love the character.  The tagline goes well with them.  The top of the can is nicely done, too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 08, 2018, 05:46:08 AM
Yep, that's (another) great Norm illustration! By the way, I think the original color of the product was yellow (not gold) but you bring up a good point: Reproducing gold (or any metallic colors) is tricky.  You have to use a lot of contrasting hues with varying spots of highlights and shadow to make it look real.

Earlier packaging I found does indeed have a solid bright yellow, but I couldn't find the round matching canister.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 08, 2018, 05:46:56 AM
Yicks and Vicks. What happened to the "I" in "Wheeze Recommend It"? Looks like a "V" on the sticker image I found. The "O" looks weird too. Problems with Letraset rub-down lettering! They didn't fix the error on the 1979 reprint either.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm/yicks_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15/Vicks.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 08, 2018, 08:05:53 AM
Good eye!  Never noticed that before. The "g" in "cough" is also dropped slightly in relation to the other letters.  Still don't understand the choice of the word "meditating" - aside from its close spelling to "medicated."  Perhaps "mutating" or "menacing" (or even "irritating") would have been closer to the mark.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on October 08, 2018, 04:36:07 PM
Good eye!  Never noticed that before. The "g" in "cough" is also dropped slightly in relation to the other letters.  Still don't understand the choice of the word "meditating" - aside from its close spelling to "medicated."  Perhaps "mutating" or "menacing" (or even "irritating") would have been closer to the mark.

Agreed. I don't think I ever realized they were trying to say that Yicks made people cough. Maybe "initiating" instead of "meditating" would have helped me make that connection. Or a tag line more in line with the original, like "with throat-aggravating Yick medication". Just getting the work "Yick" in there again would be a plus.

On the original packaging each cough drop is a "Vick"? I never realized Vicks was the plural and not the possessive.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 09, 2018, 03:54:02 AM
At one point, "Vick's" was possessive (Dr. Joshua Vick,) but somewhere along the line the company dropped the apostrophe.

(https://i.postimg.cc/cvT5FC6y/Vick_ad.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvT5FC6y)

On another note:

In German-speaking countries, the brand name Vicks is changed to Wick in order to avoid possible sexual connotations linked to either Vicks or Vick.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4KP77C81/6874484431_d4a1307c33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KP77C81)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 09, 2018, 05:31:18 AM
Yicks and Vicks. What happened to the "I" in "Wheeze Recommend It"? Looks like a "V" on the sticker image I found. The "O" looks weird too. Problems with Letraset rub-down lettering! They didn't fix the error on the 1979 reprint either.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm/yicks_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15/Vicks.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15)

This one was middle of the pack for me.  They nailed the packaging and the character is very well done.  But, the taglines just didn't do much for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: g.u.e.s.t. on October 09, 2018, 05:33:39 PM
Yep! Leave it to the great Jay Lynch to come up with these great oil can spoofs - Moobiloil and Onion 76! Wish they were finalized...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2/moobiloil.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2)(https://i.postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd/onion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd)

What a nice tribute it would be to Jay to have someone finish those roughs.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: slamjim on October 09, 2018, 08:53:39 PM
What a nice tribute it would be to Jay to have someone finish those roughs.

I'll hit those up for Old School 8 should there be one. I have a old 1970s Jay rough I used in the new set plus a bunch of Jay's roughs he and I developed for old School that we hadn't used yet. Got a few others left as well for future sets.

Moobiloil is a better gag than Onion I think. Though they both have a similar theme.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on October 10, 2018, 10:50:23 AM
...
Moobiloil is a better gag than Onion I think. Though they both have a similar theme.

Agreed. The Onion parody needs something more to tie the IRS 1040 W reference as being the source of the man crying.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 13, 2018, 04:09:01 AM
Burpsi-Cola and Pepsi-Cola...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCBJvWVw/burpsi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCBJvWVw)(https://i.postimg.cc/8JXVjGW8/Pepsi-Cola1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JXVjGW8)(https://i.postimg.cc/DW2V60Pk/Pepsi-Cola2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DW2V60Pk)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 13, 2018, 05:39:30 AM
My affinity for this Wacky has more to do with the real product - love the old bottles with the styrofoam-like wrap.  These old school graphics have been brought back and on store shelves for several months now.  Hope "Pupsi" is here to stay.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 13, 2018, 12:31:23 PM
My affinity for this Wacky has more to do with the real product - love the old bottles with the styrofoam-like wrap.  These old school graphics have been brought back and on store shelves for several months now.  Hope "Pupsi" is here to stay.

Ya! Nice to see the retro graphics return. I remember taking the glass bottles back to the store for cash. Strange the parody has "Burpsi-Cola" with the red on the bottom when it suppose to be blue (like the real product). "Burpsi" would have been fine without the word "Cola" too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 18, 2018, 12:47:25 PM
Ya! Nice to see the retro graphics return. I remember taking the glass bottles back to the store for cash. Strange the parody has "Burpsi-Cola" with the red on the bottom when it suppose to be blue (like the real product). "Burpsi" would have been fine without the word "Cola" too.
Yes, I also remember taking glass bottles back to a beverage distributor with my parents and exchanging for cash or a new 8-pack of soda in longneck bottles. I also remember that Pepsi was also the first soda product to use 2-liter plastic bottles. They called it in their commercial "the bottle that doesn't look like a bottle" and said that it was made of "shatterproof plastic-so, if it breaks, there are only a few flexible pieces".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2018, 05:27:48 AM
Kleenaxe and Kleenex...

(https://i.postimg.cc/0z09sKM9/kleenaxe-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0z09sKM9)(https://i.postimg.cc/1fkDTtbm/Kleenex.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fkDTtbm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 19, 2018, 09:32:06 AM
This parody definitely livens up an otherwise rather plain product.

I also like it in that it's simple and doesn't rely upon gouts of blood to make its point.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: dth1971 on October 19, 2018, 11:39:58 AM
Yep! Leave it to the great Jay Lynch to come up with these great oil can spoofs - Moobiloil and Onion 76! Wish they were finalized...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2/moobiloil.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXpTbTQ2)(https://i.postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd/onion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c62P4Xzd)

There was also Jay Lynch's rough art concepts for spoofs Texaco's Havoline Motor Oil and Phillips 66's Trop-Arctic Motor Oil.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 23, 2018, 08:26:29 PM
No Ovary Show here. Just pure, clean Ivery Snow and Ivory Snow...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2/iverysnow-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr/Ivory-Snow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 24, 2018, 02:25:25 AM
No Ovary Show here. Just pure, clean Ivery Snow and Ivory Snow...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2/iverysnow-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr/Ivory-Snow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr)

I've always loved this one because of fantastic characters, but I think the gag is kind of weak.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 26, 2018, 09:29:01 PM
No Ovary Show here. Just pure, clean Ivery Snow and Ivory Snow...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2/iverysnow-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snkqvsp2)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr/Ivory-Snow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0sVQDtr)

Just remembered that the "mom" on the actual box later became the famous porn star Marilyn Chambers.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 27, 2018, 06:35:40 AM
What an odd twist in Wacky lore, isn’t it?  Maybe this has been discussed before, I’m not sure, but I think maybe this little piece of salacious history is what inspired the ‘Ovary Show’ nonsense and all the other homemades now being called ‘lost wackys’.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on October 27, 2018, 11:33:41 AM
maybe this little piece of salacious history is what inspired the ‘Ovary Show’ nonsense
No "maybe" about it.  :)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 27, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
I personally have never seen any of Ms. Chambers films, however I recently read that the producers would place a box of Ivory Snow somewhere into the background of certain scenes.  (Not that anybody would notice, what with the action in the foreground.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 02, 2018, 09:38:10 AM
Rolaches and Rolaids...

(https://i.postimg.cc/HVW5L6DH/rolaches-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVW5L6DH)(https://i.postimg.cc/Cd7B9bZ2/Rolaids.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cd7B9bZ2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on November 02, 2018, 11:25:56 AM
another hidden gem.  I know it doesn't have a large character on it, but there is
not much room for one either, and the cylinder work on the foil wrapper on the
edge, the shading, and the tires are incredible!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 02, 2018, 05:07:08 PM
Agree completely with Zenergizer on this one.  These long slender packages are always challenging, and although the artists would usually distort the shape shorter and fatter to create more room for artwork, it’s still challenging to embellish all that much.  But the use of the exposed rubber tires instead of tablets really makes Rolaches more interesting than it could have been.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 03, 2018, 02:35:07 AM
I always kind of liked Rolaches.  The gag and taglines seem a little disjointed, but it just has great eye appeal.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 10, 2018, 03:50:29 AM
Smoocher's and Smucker's. Looks like the parody uses the Peach Preserves flavor. Anyone have a larger image to post than my low-res?

(https://i.postimg.cc/c6xtSqhY/smoochers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6xtSqhY)(https://i.postimg.cc/KkJzzzfT/Smucker-s-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkJzzzfT)(https://i.postimg.cc/gr2j7VcH/Smucker-s-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gr2j7VcH)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 10, 2018, 06:48:18 AM
Smoocher's and Smucker's. Looks like the parody uses the Peach Preserves flavor. Anyone have a larger image to post than my low-res?

(https://i.postimg.cc/c6xtSqhY/smoochers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6xtSqhY)(https://i.postimg.cc/KkJzzzfT/Smucker-s-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkJzzzfT)(https://i.postimg.cc/gr2j7VcH/Smucker-s-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gr2j7VcH)

This is a great wacky - the gag is wonderful, the tag line with smacks fits perfectly, the jar is awesome, and they even fit in the kissing characters, which are also very well rendered.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 18, 2018, 05:10:22 AM
Scary Lee Screamberry cheesecake and Sara Lee Strawberry cheesecake. Would love a larger image of the real product! Anyone?

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGr3s9Jn/scarylee-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGr3s9Jn)(https://i.postimg.cc/bZNRB915/Sara-Lee-Cheesecake1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZNRB915)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on November 18, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
strange, but this one never did anything for me.  Maybe the thought of that ooey red gooey stuff, not sure?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 18, 2018, 11:15:02 AM
strange, but this one never did anything for me.  Maybe the thought of that ooey red gooey stuff, not sure?

I always loved this one!  It all seemed to mesh, and I guess I also liked the vampire.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 18, 2018, 04:11:05 PM
It's a nice one, especially the tin foil pan, but the half of the lid that is lifted up makes no sense at all. It's really awkward. The lettering looks like the lid piece is still flat, but the lid must be curved upward. Except the berries are on it, which can't be right.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on November 18, 2018, 05:43:13 PM
It's a nice one, especially the tin foil pan, but the half of the lid that is lifted up makes no sense at all. It's really awkward. The lettering looks like the lid piece is still flat, but the lid must be curved upward. Except the berries are on it, which can't be right.

I'm not so sure if the "half of the lid lifted up" is actually half of a lid lifted up.  It mimics the same "horn" shape in the same spot on the original lid.  Even so, I do wonder what became of the part of the lid in question.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 19, 2018, 02:30:57 AM
I don’t remember firsthand what the packaging was really like, but from the image in the coupon it looks like the whole circular top comes off when you open the crimped edge of the aluminum pan, like a standard takeout/leftovers container.  The partially torn open section in the parody was probably just a creative way to add some flair to the art - some “bloody” looking fruit, while leaving enough space to show all the other usual elements of the parody.  That’s how I always perceived it anyway.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 19, 2018, 05:03:04 AM
The coupon has a 1970 expiration date in the text, so the real packaging was most likely updated slightly when the 8th series parody was created, which is at least 4 years later. Screamberry is in a cursive font on the parody and its possible the "blade" on the parody reflected (no pun intended) a foil metallic area on the real packaging where the Sara Lee logo is.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 22, 2018, 07:00:25 PM
Kong Fu, Kung Fu and Kung Fu Redux (from the 80th Anniversary Online POD set)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bG00CF1D/kongfu-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bG00CF1D) (https://i.postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0/1973-Topps-Kung-Fu-Wrapper-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0)(https://i.postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM/art-cckb16-18t80a-022.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on November 24, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
Yicks and Vicks. What happened to the "I" in "Wheeze Recommend It"? Looks like a "V" on the sticker image I found. The "O" looks weird too. Problems with Letraset rub-down lettering! They didn't fix the error on the 1979 reprint either.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm/yicks_small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDDZnNzm)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15/Vicks.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDrpQZ15)

That was the story I heard. The press-on "I" slipped a bit, and formed a "V" with the painted one underneath. (Up close, you see that the vertical stroke is a little lighter.) I never noticed before how the "O" looks misaligned.

During college days, I added a press-on "F" to a door marked "UTILITY" in my dorm. Within the last few years, a colleague whose daughter lived in the same residence hall reported that it was still there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 24, 2018, 11:30:49 AM
During college days, I added a press-on "F" to a door marked "UTILITY" in my dorm. Within the last few years, a colleague whose daughter lived in the same residence hall reported that it was still there.

Too funny!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 28, 2018, 02:17:12 AM
Kong Fu, Kung Fu and Kung Fu Redux (from the 80th Anniversary Online POD set)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bG00CF1D/kongfu-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bG00CF1D) (https://i.postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0/1973-Topps-Kung-Fu-Wrapper-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0)(https://i.postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM/art-cckb16-18t80a-022.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM)
I had no knowledge of the TV show or card set back in the day so this title didn’t have the wow factor for me, but my appreciation of it has grown with time.  What impresses me looking at the product and parody side-by-side is how the character in the parody still looks exactly like the actor (Carradine).  That’s nice work.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 28, 2018, 02:25:06 AM
Kong Fu, Kung Fu and Kung Fu Redux (from the 80th Anniversary Online POD set)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bG00CF1D/kongfu-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bG00CF1D) (https://i.postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0/1973-Topps-Kung-Fu-Wrapper-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67z2Gsd0)(https://i.postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM/art-cckb16-18t80a-022.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Y0HBPgM)

I thought this was a pretty good gag; not sure what else they could have done with it.  They certainly nailed the art!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 29, 2018, 05:43:11 AM
Hardly-Wrap and Handi-Wrap...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4nFhcrGT/hardlywrap-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4nFhcrGT)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MybMCHQ/Handi-Wrap1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MybMCHQ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 29, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Hardly-Wrap and Handi-Wrap...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4nFhcrGT/hardlywrap-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4nFhcrGT)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MybMCHQ/Handi-Wrap1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MybMCHQ)

I never got this gag.  And, there's something wrong with the perspective of the top of the box - the red tag isn't slanted at all.

Of all the "wraps" they did, this is probably my least favorite.  I will say, the hands are nicely painted.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 06, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
Here's the final 8th series sticker comparison - Suffertone and Coppertone...

(https://i.postimg.cc/dLtJNDrH/suffertone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLtJNDrH)(https://i.postimg.cc/JD5WPWnC/Coppertone1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JD5WPWnC)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 07, 2018, 03:22:08 AM
Here's the final 8th series sticker comparison - Suffertone and Coppertone...

(https://i.postimg.cc/dLtJNDrH/suffertone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLtJNDrH)(https://i.postimg.cc/JD5WPWnC/Coppertone1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JD5WPWnC)

To me, this one is like Cram - backwards.  It's a sunburn potion, so it should CAUSE a fast sunburn, and pain, right?  And blisters, etc.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 07, 2018, 05:25:24 AM
To me, this one is like Cram - backwards.  It's a sunburn potion, so it should CAUSE a fast sunburn, and pain, right?  And blisters, etc.

I agree! It should say "Causes" not "Prevents" LOL!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on December 07, 2018, 11:47:01 AM
To me, this one is like Cram - backwards.  It's a sunburn potion, so it should CAUSE a fast sunburn, and pain, right?  And blisters, etc.

Agreed. This one seems to have fallen a bit short on several counts. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 08, 2018, 06:15:46 PM
Also notice how the lettering along the bottom edges fails to curve with the bottle.  Someone must have stuck on those stencil letters after Saunders’ work was done.  I have to think he wouldn’t have painted it like that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 09, 2018, 11:20:55 AM
Kicking off the original 9th series - here is 6-Urp and 7-Up...

(https://i.postimg.cc/6yJZ4Rtq/6urp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yJZ4Rtq)(https://i.postimg.cc/YjkGp73L/7-Up-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YjkGp73L)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 09, 2018, 04:41:31 PM
Always nice to see a familiar product spoofed, but there’s not much you can do with such a simple product name.  Maybe if “7” was spelled out as a word it would open up some other possibilities, like “Heaven’s Up” or something like that.  But “6 Urp”?  “6 Up”?  Meh.

Also would look cooler if the version of the can with “7 UP” spelled out in little white circles was used.  Not sure if that version ran earlier or later than this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on December 09, 2018, 04:51:56 PM
Always nice to see a familiar product spoofed, but there’s not much you can do with such a simple product name.  Maybe if “7” was spelled out as a word it would open up some other possibilities, like “Heaven’s Up” or something like that.  But “6 Urp”?  “6 Up”?  Meh.

Also would look cooler if the version of the can with “7 UP” spelled out in little white circles was used.  Not sure if that version ran earlier or later than this one.
According to the rough art that I saw on this one, it was originally going to be "7 Urp", not "6 Urp".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 10, 2018, 04:00:51 AM
I prefer the later 7-Pup gag.  Seems to be stronger IMO and has more going for it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWSS8c2M/s-l300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWSS8c2M)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 10, 2018, 04:46:02 AM
I prefer the later 7-Pup gag.  Seems to be stronger IMO and has more going for it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWSS8c2M/s-l300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWSS8c2M)

Anyone want a plush 7-Pup can for their pup to chew on?
https://www.baxterboo.com/p.cfm/lulubelles-power-plush-dog-toy-7-pup-can
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 10, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
Kicking off the original 9th series - here is 6-Urp and 7-Up...

(https://i.postimg.cc/6yJZ4Rtq/6urp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yJZ4Rtq)(https://i.postimg.cc/YjkGp73L/7-Up-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YjkGp73L)

The gag's not bad, and the belching and burpy ounces taglines fit in.  "The Gassy One" tagline I always figured was making fun of "The Uncola," but maybe not.  The top of the can is really good, as is the text, which curves well with the can.  The proportions of the can are sort of off, which bugs me, but a narrower can would have wrecked the The Gassy One line.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 10, 2018, 05:11:08 PM
Good point about the can proportions, Pat.  This one looks quite a bit fatter than other soda can Wackys, and probably unnecessarily so.  Usually the distorted package shapes are not so distracting, but some are real doozies, like Tipsy Roll Pop.  Is it better to go to extremes to accommodate products the creators really want to parody, or pass them over for better package shapes?  A question for the ages.  I guess the latter approach would have given us a lot more cereal boxes!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on December 10, 2018, 05:24:58 PM

The proportions of the can are sort of off, which bugs me, but a narrower can would have wrecked the The Gassy One line.

The can proportions have always been puzzling, but if a fat can is part of the gassy gag, that quells my OCD  :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 13, 2018, 05:25:57 PM
None-in-One Pigpen Oil and 3-in-One Household Oil...

(https://i.postimg.cc/sB0H6dVV/pigpen-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sB0H6dVV)(https://i.postimg.cc/G887672v/3-In-One-OIl.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G887672v)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 13, 2018, 05:34:41 PM
I kinda like this one.  Familiar product around the house growing up, and the pig humor works well.  Little snout at the top a nice touch.  Interestingly, it’s listed as “Pigpen Oil” on the checklist, but should really be called “None-In-One Oil”, or “None-In-One Pigpen Oil”, if checklist space allows.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 17, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
Kick A Man Boy Sauce and Kikkoman Soy Sauce...

(https://i.postimg.cc/w7MXFDTm/kickaman-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7MXFDTm)(https://i.postimg.cc/G94L3pMC/Kikkoman1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G94L3pMC)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on December 17, 2018, 12:33:36 PM
I kinda like this one.  Familiar product around the house growing up, and the pig humor works well.  Little snout at the top a nice touch.  Interestingly, it’s listed as “Pigpen Oil” on the checklist, but should really be called “None-In-One Oil”, or “None-In-One Pigpen Oil”, if checklist space allows.
Which, IIRC, it didn't.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 19, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
Kick A Man Boy Sauce and Kikkoman Soy Sauce...

(https://i.postimg.cc/w7MXFDTm/kickaman-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7MXFDTm)(https://i.postimg.cc/G94L3pMC/Kikkoman1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G94L3pMC)

The actual packaging I had to dig deep online to locate. I wasn't familiar with the script lettering used for Kikkoman on the original label. I always remember Helvetica all caps like the image posted below. All around funny, clever gag. Nice illustration, understandably foreshortened to fill card space.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RqJGmGXM/c2ba4caf-034e-4f29-bb52-209477dd8c54-1-b9f23e508e14c96a21ef4d891.png) (https://postimg.cc/RqJGmGXM)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 26, 2018, 04:22:38 AM
Hope everyone had a great holiday! Next up is Messy Marker compared to Magic Marker...

(https://i.postimg.cc/nXyywFQs/messymarker-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXyywFQs)(https://i.postimg.cc/FkH8J1w6/Magic-Marker.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkH8J1w6)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 26, 2018, 05:37:45 AM
The peculiar thing about this one is that we grew up using the term ‘magic marker’ for all markers / felt tip pens of any kind, regardless of brand.  We essentially thought it was a generic, dictionary term, like pen, pencil or crayon.  Never saw this one back in the day, so I basically never learned that a ‘magic marker’ brand existed until my 30’s.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on December 26, 2018, 07:00:35 AM
The peculiar thing about this one is that we grew up using the term ‘magic marker’ for all markers / felt tip pens of any kind, regardless of brand.  We essentially thought it was a generic, dictionary term...
Like "make a Xerox".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on December 26, 2018, 10:57:46 AM
probably one of my least favorite original Wackys.  Too much pink, the Dracula/vampire connection in my mind is a stretch, just doesn't "click."

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on December 28, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
Like "make a Xerox".

vasolene.  or Kleenaxe   :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on December 30, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
Everything can be fixed with a little Botch tape.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 31, 2018, 05:07:56 AM
Foolite and Woolite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/svsSMvqY/foolite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svsSMvqY)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp5j68Qx/vintage.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp5j68Qx)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 31, 2018, 05:20:24 AM
Foolite and Woolite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/svsSMvqY/foolite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svsSMvqY)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp5j68Qx/vintage.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp5j68Qx)

This is a great Wacky!  The gag and taglines are funny, and the fool is just so goofy.  Also like the beanie on the logo.  The packaging is perfect, and the top of the can is just fantastic.  Don't think I'd change a thing on this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 31, 2018, 06:28:36 AM
agree. an easily overlooked or forgotten Wacky, but dead on, with all the elements in synch.

also, here's an image of the can with the matching typeface to the Wacky

(https://i.postimg.cc/rs89FQ7m/images.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 31, 2018, 07:12:13 AM
agree. an easily overlooked or forgotten Wacky, but dead on, with all the elements in synch.

also, here's an image of the can with the matching typeface to the Wacky

(https://i.postimg.cc/rs89FQ7m/images.jpg)

Thanks! I thought the artist used rub-down lettering that was a close match at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 04, 2019, 05:13:57 PM
Squabble and Scrabble...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5XfY5LM1/squabble-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XfY5LM1)(https://i.postimg.cc/nszXgxzP/Scrabble.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nszXgxzP)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on January 04, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
Squabble and Scrabble...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5XfY5LM1/squabble-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XfY5LM1)(https://i.postimg.cc/nszXgxzP/Scrabble.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nszXgxzP)

I never noticed until now that they didn't include the trays with the tiles on them for the Wacky.  they missed a great opportunity to put in some interesting words there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 08, 2019, 12:33:55 PM
I never noticed until now that they didn't include the trays with the tiles on them for the Wacky.  they missed a great opportunity to put in some interesting words there.

I agree! Tiles placed on the board spelling basic words like HATE, ANGER, etc.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on January 08, 2019, 04:12:41 PM
Thanks! I thought the artist used rub-down lettering that was a close match at the time.

They sometimes used letraset on some of the fine print, but usually the logos were hand painted, which is just as impressive as some of the character art, imo.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 08, 2019, 06:44:58 PM
Ducko Cement and Duco Cement...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F/ducko-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F)(https://i.postimg.cc/mch6ryWj/Duco-Cement.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mch6ryWj)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 09, 2019, 03:28:03 AM
I never noticed until now that they didn't include the trays with the tiles on them for the Wacky.  they missed a great opportunity to put in some interesting words there.

I guess they wanted more room for the characters?  But I agree, some words would have made this great Wacky even better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 09, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
Ducko Cement and Duco Cement...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F/ducko-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F)(https://i.postimg.cc/mch6ryWj/Duco-Cement.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mch6ryWj)
I think I appreciated this one more than the typical Wacky kid because we always seemed to have a tube of that glue around the house.  My brothers and I went through a period as model-building enthusiasts, ‘Rebell’ race cars, military tanks and whatnot, maybe we needed it for that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 11, 2019, 09:22:15 PM
Stickers and Snickers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP/stickers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgWRNB09/Snickers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgWRNB09)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2019, 06:28:40 AM
Ducko Cement and Duco Cement...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F/ducko-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4ncqtP7F)(https://i.postimg.cc/mch6ryWj/Duco-Cement.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mch6ryWj)

This one always made me smile - think it is the fantastic goofy duck.  The title is a good gag on the product name, but I never did quite get cementing a duck.......
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2019, 06:37:56 AM
Stickers and Snickers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP/stickers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgWRNB09/Snickers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgWRNB09)

I like the gag a lot, and they did a good job on the cactus and the package, especially where it bends in a little along the long side.  The taglines work well, like desert and ouches.  Too bad there's no character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 12, 2019, 07:13:48 AM
I agree, well done parody.  There could have been a guy in pain (grimacing, with tears flying from his eyes, etc.) biting into a candy bar or perhaps some desert animal around the cactus (an elf owl, rattlesnake, etc.,) however I believe the cactus itself is the character in this one.  It may not be the most hilarious character, but it does get its point across.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 12, 2019, 10:07:47 AM
Stickers and Snickers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP/stickers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXJJZnxP)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgWRNB09/Snickers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgWRNB09)

At first the title confused me - as kids we used to refer to thorny shrubs as “sticker bushes” but I never heard the term applied to cacti.  Once I realized the “stick” in “sticker” really applies to anything that can pierce the skin, it made sense.  Duh.

I guess the gag is ok, agree the cactus becomes the character when there’s limited space with the product shape (though I guess you can argue that if Big Baddy can have a character then anything can).  What appeals to me most is the throwback wrapper design itself.  Hearkens back to the era and to childhood Halloween trick or treating.  Now there’s a whole family of Snickers products, and I just saw another new one last week - with peanut butter.  Didn’t they already do that?  Then there’s the bars with random words on the wrapper instead of the product name, like the Coke cans.  Brilliant.  Inundate us with advertising everywhere except where it makes the most sense.  But ah, I digress.... :-X
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on January 12, 2019, 12:19:58 PM
... but it does get its point across.
This proves you're a stickler for puns.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on January 12, 2019, 12:45:38 PM
This proves you're a stickler for puns.

Stick it to him!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Slaytex99 on January 12, 2019, 08:39:12 PM
I like the gag a lot, and they did a good job on the cactus and the package, especially where it bends in a little along the long side.  The taglines work well, like desert and ouches.  Too bad there's no character.

Not a fan of the color tbh.  I think it tends towards the red spectrum.  Wish it had a better grab, maybe a character getting poked with a cactus or something.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 15, 2019, 03:36:53 PM
Hookey and Hockey...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vg9s8snV/hookey-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg9s8snV)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC/779cf5ba88bb1b649aad54c411b350b7-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cardnut on January 15, 2019, 04:21:37 PM
I like this wacky great subject matter and colours, as you can tell from my picture. And as a good Canadian I have actually played Hookey to Play Hockey! :] :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 15, 2019, 05:56:03 PM
Hookey and Hockey...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vg9s8snV/hookey-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg9s8snV)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC/779cf5ba88bb1b649aad54c411b350b7-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC)
I can only remember a few 9th titles from when it was in circulation, but this is one of them for sure.  That truant officer’s rosy face sticks out in my memory for some reason.

A very simple basic Wacky, but then so is the product wrapper.  My card collecting includes  old wax sports wrappers, and this one has eluded me thus far.  Maybe it’s the Wacky collectors snagging them for “real product” collections lol.  3rd Series baseball and football wrappers are tough to find at decent prices too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 15, 2019, 06:52:59 PM
Hookey and Hockey...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vg9s8snV/hookey-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg9s8snV)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC/779cf5ba88bb1b649aad54c411b350b7-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC)


I think this is a great gag, with funny taglines and two fantastic characters.  The package is really well done, too.  I wouldn't change a thing. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on January 16, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
Hookey and Hockey...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vg9s8snV/hookey-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg9s8snV)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC/779cf5ba88bb1b649aad54c411b350b7-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0bmt1RC)
Is there possibly a Hockey wrapper that has the Topps logo in the upper left corner like the "Truant" logo is on the Wacky?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 16, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
Hard to find a lot of images, but the ones I did find consistently show the Topps logo in the lower position.  Just guessing, but since every Topps product parody spoofs the Topps name itself, I’m thinking they placed it at the top just so the full product name reads as intended, like a book title.  The Topps logo catches your eye first, so it reads “Truant Hookey”, rather than just “Hookey”, with the “Truant” a virtual afterthought sitting there near the bottom.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cardnut on January 16, 2019, 08:02:55 PM
The Topps Logo seems to be in different spots at various times. Here are 4 examples of the Topps Logo in the upper left corner.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cg3DdBmj/1970-Topps-Wax.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cg3DdBmj)
1970
(https://i.postimg.cc/p5YqFV3J/1971-Topps-Wax-NHL.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5YqFV3J)
1971
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zvhwnvsq/1977-Topps-Hockey-Wrapper.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Zvhwnvsq)
1977
(https://i.postimg.cc/vDWPjXDx/1978-Topps-Wax.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDWPjXDx)
1978
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 17, 2019, 06:00:11 AM
I guess they used artistic license to put the logo at the top left on the pinkyellow wrapper.  It does help with the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 20, 2019, 07:36:33 AM
Paper Wate and Paper Mate...

(https://i.postimg.cc/LqtFHD42/paperwate-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqtFHD42)(https://i.postimg.cc/N5S3mS5Q/Paper-Mate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5S3mS5Q)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on January 20, 2019, 04:28:47 PM
I always enjoyed the subtle logo element gags... the two hearts, replaced with the weights always made me chuckle!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 20, 2019, 10:44:17 PM
Paper Wate and Paper Mate...

(https://i.postimg.cc/LqtFHD42/paperwate-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqtFHD42)(https://i.postimg.cc/N5S3mS5Q/Paper-Mate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5S3mS5Q)

Considering the boring package they had to work with, I think this was a pretty good Wacky.  OK gag and taglines, and they worked in a character. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism and Variation
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 22, 2019, 03:08:43 PM

How about a change up on the tag line to be... "More morticians recommend Lavirus
than any other mouthwash" 

(https://s22.postimg.cc/zd1pcc33h/lavirus.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/zd1pcc33h/)

(https://s21.postimg.cc/wd5fmtf0z/Lavoris.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wd5fmtf0z/)


Here’s a good photo of Lavoris....

(https://i.postimg.cc/MpP1khrP/2-CE38-C4-D-E0-D3-4503-A566-4-A418-DC725-B6.jpg)


Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 24, 2019, 08:31:08 PM
Here's a fun one! Belch's and Welch's Grape Jelly. If I'm not mistaken, the glass in the parody is based on the Archie glass. It's the only glass I found a photo reference of that has artwork in yellow and red. The character on the parody glass, while not exact, loosely resembles Archie too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJsk5446/belchs-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJsk5446)(https://i.postimg.cc/Hcq4v5gS/Welch-s-Jelly5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hcq4v5gS)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH/Welch-s-Jelly2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH)(https://i.postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2/Welch-s-Jelly3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2)(https://i.postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW/Welch-s-Jelly4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 24, 2019, 11:25:44 PM
Here's a fun one! Belch's and Welch's Grape Jelly. If I'm not mistaken, the glass in the parody is based on the Archie glass. It's the only real glass I found a photo reference of that has artwork in yellow and orange. The character on the parody glass, while not exact, loosely resembles Archie too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJsk5446/belchs-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJsk5446)(https://i.postimg.cc/JHN9bwHz/Welch-s-Jelly1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHN9bwHz)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH/Welch-s-Jelly2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH)(https://i.postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2/Welch-s-Jelly3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2)(https://i.postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW/Welch-s-Jelly4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW)

This is a great Wacky, can't think of a thing to change.  Perfect gag, great artwork and main character, funny taglines that go with the gag, and they nailed the packaging.  Thanks for posting the Archie glass - I think you're right about the characters in the background.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 25, 2019, 03:55:45 AM
The cork is a nice crowning touch!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on January 25, 2019, 09:21:16 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/DJsk5446/belchs-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJsk5446)

Technically, the gag should read "1/5 Gallon" instead of "1/5 Quart", but I agree - One of the great Original Series Wackys!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 28, 2019, 11:35:19 AM
Moscow and Bosco. Is the joke on the lid supposed to be read as "It's Lunch Time in Russia. So Be It"?

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJPpKN1Y/moscow-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJPpKN1Y)(https://i.postimg.cc/dL5xNg9W/Bosco1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dL5xNg9W)(https://i.postimg.cc/BjtwrNYJ/Bosco2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjtwrNYJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 28, 2019, 12:21:02 PM
Moscow and Bosco. Is the joke on the lid supposed to be read as "It's Lunch Time in Russia. So Be It"?

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJPpKN1Y/moscow-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJPpKN1Y)(https://i.postimg.cc/dL5xNg9W/Bosco1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dL5xNg9W)(https://i.postimg.cc/BjtwrNYJ/Bosco2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjtwrNYJ)

Yes "Soviet" in place of "So Be It"  as in the Soviet Union aka USSR.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 30, 2019, 08:21:13 PM
Taxim and Maxim...

(https://i.postimg.cc/YjVkkxP2/taxim-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YjVkkxP2)(https://i.postimg.cc/QVBG6Td2/Maxim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVBG6Td2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 31, 2019, 04:50:40 PM
Nice basic Wacky, change one letter and the gag becomes a slam dunk.  Sometimes simple just works.  Add a star for the coffee product.  I’ve always liked the coffee Wackys, and I’m glad Topps spoofed a variety of them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 31, 2019, 07:01:23 PM
Nice basic Wacky, change one letter and the gag becomes a slam dunk.  Sometimes simple just works.  Add a star for the coffee product.  I’ve always liked the coffee Wackys, and I’m glad Topps spoofed a variety of them.


Not a bad gag, but a character getting stuck with a tack might have helped.  Good job on the packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 01, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
I especially like the tacks mixed in with the coffee.  Then and again, I've always liked things - garbage, nuts and bolts, alligators, mountain men, etc. - inside of the bottles, cans, and jars.  This is one of the traits that help make Wackys wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on February 04, 2019, 12:32:15 PM
Nice basic Wacky, change one letter and the gag becomes a slam dunk.  Sometimes simple just works.  Add a star for the coffee product.  I’ve always liked the coffee Wackys, and I’m glad Topps spoofed a variety of them.
If you like the coffee Wackys that much, I've added some changes to pretty much a lot of them on the Master Spreadsheet. Hopefully, they'll be in soon.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 04, 2019, 07:34:41 PM
Goon's Farm and Boone's Farm...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBZCV2Mh/goonsfarm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBZCV2Mh)(https://i.postimg.cc/zLY1j4gC/Boone-s-Farm1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLY1j4gC)(https://i.postimg.cc/R31xbG7j/Boone-s-Farm2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R31xbG7j)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 05, 2019, 11:57:54 AM
Curious about the scene under the logo, so magnified it a bit.
 
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r5w7xj.png)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 05, 2019, 03:33:53 PM
Curious about the scene under the logo, so magnified it a bit.
don't think I've really ever looked closely at that before. thanks!
with the X for the eyes, I guess the guy on the ground might be dead and not just drunk?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 05, 2019, 03:45:19 PM
The original wine cooler before there were wine coolers.  Once upon a time I could drink this stuff by the case.

I magnified the magnified version and still can't tell exactly what's going on in this scene.  The building kind of resembles a shack on wheels.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 05, 2019, 05:47:42 PM
It looks like the wheel-like round shapes might be moonshiners’ barrels, or pails?  A lot going on with this Wacky.  This is one of several OS products I am completely unfamiliar with.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 06, 2019, 04:11:58 AM
Goon's Farm and Boone's Farm...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBZCV2Mh/goonsfarm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBZCV2Mh)(https://i.postimg.cc/zLY1j4gC/Boone-s-Farm1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLY1j4gC)(https://i.postimg.cc/R31xbG7j/Boone-s-Farm2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R31xbG7j)


I've always liked this one.  Funny gag, and great drunk character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on February 06, 2019, 04:52:34 AM
This was one that I had never heard of or knew the original, thanks for continually doing this series!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 08, 2019, 04:54:28 AM
DeLinquent and DelMonte Spinach. Couldn't find the matching real spinach label, but I have another label from the same time period and a different spinach label.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB/delinquent-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB)(https://i.postimg.cc/mthK02ZB/Del-Monte1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mthK02ZB)(https://i.postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg/Del-Monte2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 10, 2019, 05:16:10 AM
DeLinquent and DelMonte Spinach. Couldn't find the matching real spinach label, but I have another label from the same time period and a different spinach label.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB/delinquent-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB)(https://i.postimg.cc/mthK02ZB/Del-Monte1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mthK02ZB)(https://i.postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg/Del-Monte2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg)

OK, not an exciting one here. The label is a simple design. The delinquent illustration is very good. He looks a little like Sean Penn to me. Many people think greaser gangs were only around in the 1950s and 1960s. I remember seeing one near my high school in the late 1970s. Maybe this new movement of greasers was reinvigorated by the popularity of Fonzie and the T-Birds in Grease?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 10, 2019, 06:39:19 AM
DeLinquent and DelMonte Spinach. Couldn't find the matching real spinach label, but I have another label from the same time period and a different spinach label.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB/delinquent-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fXjRJrB)(https://i.postimg.cc/mthK02ZB/Del-Monte1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mthK02ZB)(https://i.postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg/Del-Monte2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhVTkKjg)


Another well rendered can, and the character is pretty good.  I remember having to look delinquent up in the dictionary, and then I got the gag.   
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 16, 2019, 05:45:25 PM
Easy-Cough and Easy-Off...

(https://i.postimg.cc/fJnZk67H/easycough-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJnZk67H)(https://i.postimg.cc/LqbFS763/Easy-Off1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqbFS763)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 19, 2019, 02:28:33 AM
Nice execution, adds the little Saunders character without crowding the overall look.  I think the 9th has a number of under appreciated titles like this one, making it an underrated series overall.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 20, 2019, 02:25:53 PM
Easy-Cough and Easy-Off...

(https://i.postimg.cc/fJnZk67H/easycough-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJnZk67H)(https://i.postimg.cc/LqbFS763/Easy-Off1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqbFS763)

A very good Wacky - the main gag rhymes with the product name, they did a great job on the can, added a funny character, and the tag line works well.  And, the real product DID make me cough!!  Wouldn't change a thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 22, 2019, 10:41:48 AM
Ivy and Ivory Soap...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLzxFYgk/ivy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLzxFYgk)(https://i.postimg.cc/pmwyVQsS/Ivory.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmwyVQsS)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 22, 2019, 02:03:44 PM
Ivy and Ivory Soap...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLzxFYgk/ivy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLzxFYgk)(https://i.postimg.cc/pmwyVQsS/Ivory.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmwyVQsS)

The main gag could have been great, but the tagline of "fight poison" Ivy makes it seem like the soap is to help with poison ivy.  And I don't see how bloating fits in.  I think this should have been done to indicate that it would GIVE someone poison ivy, and then they'd itch.  My brain is mush after a very long day at work, but maybe I can come up with what's nagging in the back of my head.  I know there's something there..........
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on February 22, 2019, 03:20:02 PM
The main gag could have been great, but the tagline of "fight poison" Ivy makes it seem like the soap is to help with poison ivy.  And I don't see how bloating fits in.  I think this should have been done to indicate that it would GIVE someone poison ivy, and then they'd itch.  My brain is mush after a very long day at work, but maybe I can come up with what's nagging in the back of my head.  I know there's something there..........

The only explanation I can think of is that some people with severe reactions to poison ivy, do get kind of bloated and swollen because of the histamines the body is producing. Or, bloat is just a funny word. Go ahead and say it 20 times fast. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on February 22, 2019, 04:23:03 PM
The only explanation I can think of is that some people with severe reactions to poison ivy, do get kind of bloated and swollen because of the histamines the body is producing. Or, bloat is just a funny word.
or, they just changed "floats" to "bloats". I guess that was humorous to someone who mattered.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 23, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
The main gag could have been great, but the tagline of "fight poison" Ivy makes it seem like the soap is to help with poison ivy.  And I don't see how bloating fits in.  I think this should have been done to indicate that it would GIVE someone poison ivy, and then they'd itch.  My brain is mush after a very long day at work, but maybe I can come up with what's nagging in the back of my head.  I know there's something there..........
I think I see your point - the gag lines are conflicting, between the soap fighting poison ivy vs. causing it, or at least the symptoms (bloating) of it.

I’ve always noticed that this Wacky and a few others have what I would describe as an illumination effect.  The orange tinge of the left-side end and the animation-like appearance of the character give the effect of the product appearing to be illuminated by yellowish lighting.  No idea whether intended or not, but it adds a little intrigue for me.

I like most of the soap Wackys in general.  The paper packaging and sale of individual bars is in itself a relic of the 70’s.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 23, 2019, 11:02:23 AM
I think I see your point - the gag lines are conflicting, between the soap fighting poison ivy vs. causing it, or at least the symptoms (bloating) of it.

I’ve always noticed that this Wacky and a few others have what I would describe as an illumination effect.  The orange tinge of the left-side end and the animation-like appearance of the character give the effect of the product appearing to be illuminated by yellowish lighting.  No idea whether intended or not, but it adds a little intrigue for me.

I like most of the soap Wackys in general.  The paper packaging and sale of individual bars is in itself a relic of the 70’s.

That's what I was trying to say - if it fights poison ivy, why is bloating involved?  Maybe it should have been "Causes" poison ivy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on February 23, 2019, 01:33:58 PM
- if it fights poison ivy, why is bloating involved?

I'm with Tom on this. They just changed 'floats' to 'bloats' since one of the big claims to fame of Ivory soap was "It Floats". Would be way funnier if the 'bloating' had something to do with the Ivy gag, but, as it is, it's a swing and a miss. Should have just stayed with the poison ivy theme, which would've been prefect if it GAVE you poison ivy (as you rightly mentioned).


(https://i.postimg.cc/8j8fzJJT/ivorysoap01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8j8fzJJT)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 24, 2019, 01:42:29 PM
Jerkyfruits and Jujyfruits...


(https://i.postimg.cc/grcYbLhR/jerkyfruits-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grcYbLhR)(https://i.postimg.cc/Fk15dcbB/Jujyfruits1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fk15dcbB)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 24, 2019, 04:58:15 PM
I think the whole auto gag would have worked better with "Junkyfruits."  (Lemon flavored.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 25, 2019, 04:17:26 AM
I think the whole auto gag would have worked better with "Junkyfruits."  (Lemon flavored.)

Great idea! Especially with "Heap o" preceding it on the parody. What a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 25, 2019, 06:27:33 PM
Seeing this through adult eyes, I can only question how “jerky” equates with smashed cars, but through my 7-year old eyes this one resonated on a gut level, combining a very familiar candy with this junked cars concept.  I vividly remember demolition-derby type events were constantly on TV through the early to mid 70’s, and the notion of destroying stuff for fun really intrigued me.  So this one is a big winner for me, though not necessarily for conventional reasons.

Also, I love Wackys where the product contents themselves become the characters that sell the gag, like Shots Candy, Plastered Peanuts, Run-A-Way Vitamins, Knuckles Candy, etc.  The little gummy cars on this one are just fantastic.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 27, 2019, 04:50:28 AM
3 Mosquitoes and 3 Musketeers...
(https://i.postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg/3mosquitoes-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg)(https://i.postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F/3-Musketeers-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 27, 2019, 09:27:32 AM
Nice simple word play and gag (on what was probably my favorite candy bar at the time.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on February 27, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
Sometimes a happy coincidence helps a Wacky title. For example the mosquitoes yielding their proboscides rather than epees or foils. I thought that was really cool as a kid.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on February 28, 2019, 09:05:08 AM
3 Mosquitoes and 3 Musketeers...
(https://i.postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg/3mosquitoes-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg)(https://i.postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F/3-Musketeers-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F)
One of my favorites as well from the middle series!  What is the consensus on this one as to if Saunders painted it or not? 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 01, 2019, 07:35:46 PM
I would say yes.  The characters don’t suggest it, but artist was likely trying to keep it simplistic, like the little cartoonish musketeer characters on the real product.  To me the shading and the gleam along the package edges are what suggest Saunders’ handiwork.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 03, 2019, 05:37:15 AM
Bear and Bayer...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV/bear-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk/Bayer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 03, 2019, 07:00:50 AM
Nice, well done parody.  Notice the fantastic lighting on the bear.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 03, 2019, 10:15:11 AM
3 Mosquitoes and 3 Musketeers...
(https://i.postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg/3mosquitoes-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLfVKwfg)(https://i.postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F/3-Musketeers-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zHjd2F8F)

This is well done Wacky, with a good gag, and appropriate matching taglines like "gnat wt."  And they added some very nice mosquito characters on a well replicated wrapper.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 03, 2019, 10:18:06 AM
Bear and Bayer...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV/bear-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk/Bayer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk)

Good homophone on the name.  Great bear!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 03, 2019, 11:27:17 AM
Bear and Bayer...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV/bear-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtYSm2PV)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk/Bayer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6qYT5hk)

Picking a nit here, but this is another title one where the gags seems a little disjointed. In one place it says it is "headache relief for bears" and in another "grizzly flavored". I know I certainly don't look for human flavored aspirin when I am shopping.  ;) I wonder how much time they were able to actually invest in each new Wacky during the peak of their popularity. I know they were cranking them out pretty fast. I don't remember being nearly as critical of these as a kid.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 03, 2019, 11:43:06 AM
Picking a nit here, but this is another title one where the gags seems a little disjointed. In one place it says it is "headache relief for bears" and in another "grizzly flavored". I know I certainly don't look for human flavored aspirin when I am shopping.  ;) I wonder how much time they were able to actually invest in each new Wacky during the peak of their popularity. I know they were cranking them out pretty fast. I don't remember being nearly as critical of these as a kid.

Yeah, I wasn't so critical back then, I looked for a funny gag and a great package, hopefully with a good character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 04, 2019, 04:54:32 PM
Picking a nit here, but this is another title one where the gags seems a little disjointed. In one place it says it is "headache relief for bears" and in another "grizzly flavored". I know I certainly don't look for human flavored aspirin when I am shopping.  ;) I wonder how much time they were able to actually invest in each new Wacky during the peak of their popularity. I know they were cranking them out pretty fast. I don't remember being nearly as critical of these as a kid.

Actually it would have more sense if they had used "Honey Flavored."  (Or perhaps "Grizzly Tablets.")

Like RawGoo, as a kid I also looked for a great gag with a familiar product.  I remember being critical, though, of certain cards, namely those that seemed at odds with what they could have - or ought to have - been.  Case in point, "Ivy Soap" - which could have been far funnier.  Cards like this only made me confused.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 06, 2019, 04:44:42 AM
Czechlets and Chiclets...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq/czechlets-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq)(https://i.postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv/Chiclets.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 06, 2019, 08:06:47 AM
Middle of the road, IMO.  I actually prefer "Crickets" from ANS6.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fJVn3tVf/s-l300.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJVn3tVf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 06, 2019, 12:15:05 PM
Czechlets and Chiclets...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq/czechlets-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq)(https://i.postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv/Chiclets.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv)

I always liked this one, especially the "over coated" gag. Except, one thing nagged at me as a kid. Nine people can be seen through the box window and one other crawling out of the box opening so that means 2 Czechs have all the remaining room. My sister explained, that's where all the furniture is. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 06, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Czechlets and Chiclets...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq/czechlets-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq)(https://i.postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv/Chiclets.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv)

I liked this because part of my family is Czech, and it made them laugh.  Maybe Czechlettes would have been better?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 06, 2019, 05:00:02 PM
Czechlets and Chiclets...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq/czechlets-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjmHGDmq)(https://i.postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv/Chiclets.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8FXJ5Dv)

The gag kind of eluded me as a kid, but I always liked the visual, and of course I avidly pursued the gum itself, though I preferred the more sugary fruit flavors over the mint flavors.

Agree that Crickets is very good too, as well as the ‘Chickless’ nerd-themed spoof that came later.  All solid titles.  I recently read that Chiclets have ceased production for good, not sure why or if it’s even true.  Maybe gum chewing is on the decline.  I’m sure Jason has the inside scoop on this.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 06, 2019, 08:39:06 PM
Bonus parody of Archie. That's fantastic. Thanks for finding this,


Here's a fun one! Belch's and Welch's Grape Jelly. If I'm not mistaken, the glass in the parody is based on the Archie glass. It's the only glass I found a photo reference of that has artwork in yellow and red. The character on the parody glass, while not exact, loosely resembles Archie too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJsk5446/belchs-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJsk5446)(https://i.postimg.cc/Hcq4v5gS/Welch-s-Jelly5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hcq4v5gS)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH/Welch-s-Jelly2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg2VfKDH)(https://i.postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2/Welch-s-Jelly3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJq0mKH2)(https://i.postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW/Welch-s-Jelly4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7kCMpdW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 09, 2019, 07:55:37 PM
Heartburn and Heartland...

(https://i.postimg.cc/CBTVpRCN/heatburn-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBTVpRCN)(https://i.postimg.cc/7JXvzXFs/Heartland-cereal1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JXvzXFs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 16, 2019, 07:18:37 AM
Not surprisingly, this thread has stalled thanks to the most unrecognizable, un-kiddiest, unrelatable-to-us cereal imaginable!  So, let me jump-start the commentary!

Pretty funny gag and concept.  I’m always a little extra fascinated by products that already have a character to work with, especially a really stoic, serious one - how will the writer/artist animate them, make them goofy, bring them to life as Wackily as possible?  On that front, I think they did a nice job with this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 16, 2019, 07:33:02 AM
Not surprisingly, this thread has stalled thanks to the most unrecognizable, un-kiddiest, unrelatable-to-us cereal imaginable!  So, let me jump-start the commentary!
LOL.
I guess our family jumped on the granola cereal trend back then, as we had this one in the pantry frequently.
I recall the Raisin version vividly, where the raisins were not the nice, soft ones like in Raisin Bran, but were these cruel, tough as leather fruit nuggets. We wrote to PET a few times about them. Eventually they were changed to plump ones that were enjoyable to eat.

and dead on with your other points, of taking a piece of art that's already on the product and manipulating it. This, boone's farm, easy-off, jujy fruits, just in the 9th alone. For me, I believe that the 8th-11th contains some of the greatest pieces of wacky artwork. Lesser known products, weak gags, not as memorable as early series, sure, but that artwork!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 16, 2019, 07:45:46 AM
I never recognized the product, but the gag was funny, as was the character.  I found it dull because of the color, I guess.  Much easier to appreciate now, especially with the original packaging to compare it with. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 16, 2019, 02:40:41 PM
I remember the ads. As I recall, there was a live-action shot of a farmer that morphed into the drawing on the front of the box.
Not sure I ever actually tried it.

I never recognized the product, but the gag was funny, as was the character.  I found it dull because of the color, I guess.  Much easier to appreciate now, especially with the original packaging to compare it with.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 17, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
I'm glad someone jumpstarted the stalled reviews. Heartburn/Heartland was a dull product but I give the parody artist credit for the nice line art illustration!

Here's a familiar one - Windstun and Winston...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5HWNt2Qw/windstun-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HWNt2Qw)(https://i.postimg.cc/0rXkwfJ5/Winston.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rXkwfJ5)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 17, 2019, 11:33:31 AM
I'm glad someone jumpstarted the stalled reviews. Heartburn/Heartland was a dull product but I give the parody artist credit for the nice line art illustration!

Here's a familiar one - Windstun and Winston...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5HWNt2Qw/windstun-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HWNt2Qw)(https://i.postimg.cc/0rXkwfJ5/Winston.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rXkwfJ5)

I never quite got this one as a kid, but they sure replicated the packaging.  Middle of the pack for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 21, 2019, 05:09:11 AM
Mrs. Small's and Mrs. Paul's Fish Sticks...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RqpDQbYg/mrssmalls-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqpDQbYg)(https://i.postimg.cc/v1vP1P9L/Mrs-Paul-s1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1vP1P9L)(https://i.postimg.cc/cg9XhrFv/Mrs-Paul-s2.png) (https://postimg.cc/cg9XhrFv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 21, 2019, 03:13:27 PM
Despite the lack of a character (save for the fish,) and fact that the fish sticks look like mini floating turds, I always liked this parody.

By the way, does anybody know what the "bird's nest" thing is in the upper right corner?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on March 21, 2019, 04:16:11 PM

By the way, does anybody know what the "bird's nest" thing is in the upper right corner?

Must be the Seaweed Sauce Mix
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 24, 2019, 04:32:16 PM
the fish sticks look like mini floating turds,

Ya know, never thought of it like that before...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on March 24, 2019, 05:45:14 PM
Mark, please make sure you have your "1 Mosquito" concept in there it is by far my favorite!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 24, 2019, 09:01:43 PM
Cents and Certs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz/cents-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p/Certs.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 25, 2019, 03:35:25 AM
Cents and Certs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz/cents-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p/Certs.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p)

I think this is a great gag, and the taglines (especially "Fresh From the Mint") work well.  The package is spot on.  Awesome pennies, and I think they keep me from missing a silly character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 25, 2019, 10:01:21 AM
I also really like this one, and I'm biased against titles without a wacky character.

If they were to remake it, one line might be, "Fresh breath so you can give 'em your two cents."

Unsure how "A penny for your thoughts" could be used . . . "A penny for your fresh thoughts"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 25, 2019, 12:12:23 PM
I also really like this one, and I'm biased against titles without a wacky character.

If they were to remake it, one line might be, "Fresh breath so you can give 'em your two cents."

Unsure how "A penny for your thoughts" could be used . . . "A penny for your fresh thoughts"?

I like this one too but the the phrase "swallow a cent - cough up a dollar" seemed incorrect to me in terms of causality. Shouldn't it be reversed?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on March 25, 2019, 02:07:00 PM
I like this one too but the the phrase "swallow a cent - cough up a dollar" seemed incorrect to me in terms of causality. Shouldn't it be reversed?

Either way that line doesn't seem to fit. I like Jean Nutty's "two cents" line. Or maybe something like "Make Sense with Cents Scents".

It certainly is an improvement over the 2nd series Nertz (even the Wacky Ad version).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 25, 2019, 04:42:06 PM
Cents and Certs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz/cents-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKNkDSQz)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p/Certs.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnLsVF8p)

Agree with Pat’s comments.  One of just a handful of titles I remember seeing from the 9th at the time it came out, I thought the choice of pennies was perfect.  I’ve always tended to chew on hard candies, even mints, rather than just suck them all the way down, and Certs were so hard and brittle that biting on pennies is a fair comparison.  Also easy to overlook that this is the second parody of Certs, and IMO Cents blows Nertz out of the water!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 26, 2019, 12:13:18 PM
Either way that line doesn't seem to fit. I like Jean Nutty's "two cents" line. Or maybe something like "Make Sense with Cents Scents".

It certainly is an improvement over the 2nd series Nertz (even the Wacky Ad version).

The price shown on the CENTS  is $1. So I can see coughing up a dollar (buying it) in order to swallow a cent (a CENTS mint). But the other way seems strange.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on March 26, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
The price shown on the CENTS  is $1. So I can see coughing up a dollar (buying it) in order to swallow a cent (a CENTS mint). But the other way seems strange.

Ah, I never got the original line! I agree with reversing the order as you suggest though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on March 26, 2019, 03:36:15 PM
The price shown on the CENTS  is $1. So I can see coughing up a dollar (buying it) in order to swallow a cent (a CENTS mint). But the other way seems strange.
I see where you're coming from on this. However, maybe the natural physical sequencing was being considered here: I think the writer's thought was that you had to swallow something before you can cough it up.

I think we're way over analyzing this one, LOL.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 27, 2019, 09:18:48 AM
I see where you're coming from on this. However, maybe the natural physical sequencing was being considered here: I think the writer's thought was that you had to swallow something before you can cough it up.

I think we're way over analyzing this one, LOL.

I thought that was the whole reason this thread exists  :]  Seriously, I find is interesting how each of us see these through different eyes and perspectives. Like a sociology experiment.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 28, 2019, 06:03:53 PM
Raggedy Ant and Raggedy Ann...

(https://i.postimg.cc/G45FQCZP/raggedyant-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G45FQCZP)(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9pchWVS/Raggedy-Ann1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9pchWVS)(https://i.postimg.cc/xN2h1H5d/Raggedy-Ann3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xN2h1H5d)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 28, 2019, 06:37:31 PM
Raggedy Ant really creeped me out as a kid, still does.  No better way to make an insect terrifying than to supersize it and make it bright red.

Not a whole lot to analyze gag-wise, I think this one’s all visual, and it really packs a punch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on March 29, 2019, 06:20:50 AM
Not a whole lot to analyze gag-wise, I think this one’s all visual, and it really packs a punch.

I guess if you were going to criticize, you'd wonder why if it's a doll for baby insects (assuming they could buy a doll and would want one that size), why would it scare kids of all ages?  Would the baby ants carry it into the homes of kids just to scare them?  Perhaps they'd carry it around when they went on their marches.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on March 29, 2019, 06:47:38 AM
Always liked the toys and games parodies this is no exception
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 29, 2019, 12:37:28 PM
The artists and gag writers must always get a little thrill when you can change when one letter (Ann to Ant) and get a great parody like this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 01, 2019, 08:08:12 PM
Another toy parody! GI Toe and GI Joe...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cz0dJDg0/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz0dJDg0)(https://i.postimg.cc/nXHjVmR2/GI-Joe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXHjVmR2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on April 02, 2019, 12:55:15 PM
(it's in there)

Mark, please make sure you have your "1 Mosquito" concept in there it is by far my favorite!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on April 02, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
This one was cool and disturbing to me. A dude with an enormous toe for a head, no face, just a grungy toenail...

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Another toy parody! GI Toe and GI Joe...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cz0dJDg0/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz0dJDg0)(https://i.postimg.cc/nXHjVmR2/GI-Joe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXHjVmR2)
[/quote]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 02, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
Ah, those tumultuous 70s.  Good thing we had GI Joe (and GI Toe) around to protect us from those damn dirty apes!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 02, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
Ah, those tumultuous 70s.  Good thing we had GI Joe (and GI Toe) around to protect us from those damn dirty apes!

and those darn dirty grapes!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on April 02, 2019, 05:16:18 PM
This is one of my favorite titles from this series! Every time I look at the toe standing on the gorilla, I start to laugh! One thing I never figured out, was what the "OD", on the dog tag (or toe tag!) stood for... any thoughts?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 03, 2019, 04:55:34 AM
This is one of my favorite titles from this series! Every time I look at the toe standing on the gorilla, I start to laugh! One thing I never figured out, was what the "OD", on the dog tag (or toe tag!) stood for... any thoughts?

Good question! It would have been funnier if the initials on the dog tag were PU.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 03, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
Good question! It would have been funnier if the initials on the dog tag were PU.

Where I grew up around the Great Lakes area, people used the term "odie". I am not really sure how it would be spelled as I only heard its use, never saw it in writing since I don't thinks its an actual word.  They used it to be short for odiferous or odoriferious... in short, stinky. So perhaps a possibility "OD" was tapping into that line of thought.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 03, 2019, 02:40:46 PM
This is one of my favorite titles from this series! Every time I look at the toe standing on the gorilla, I start to laugh! One thing I never figured out, was what the "OD", on the dog tag (or toe tag!) stood for... any thoughts?

Maybe OD is a reference to the military abbreviation, On Duty

If it's a play on a dog tag, it could refer to Odie, the dog from the comic strip Garfield, but that's pretty obtuse.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on April 03, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
If it's a play on a dog tag, it could refer to Odie, the dog from the comic strip Garfield, but that's pretty obtuse.

The Garfield comic strip didn't start until 1978, so that would require looking into the future.

In the military, OD stands for Olive Drab, but it should be something that corresponds to Adventure Team for the AT on the GI Joe dog tag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 05, 2019, 04:02:33 AM
Three toys in a row on the checklist! Killy Putty and Silly Putty...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s/killyputty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T/1-8028c929eff439879a045316679edcf6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 05, 2019, 05:36:17 AM
Three toys in a row on the checklist! Killy Putty and Silly Putty...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s/killyputty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T/1-8028c929eff439879a045316679edcf6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T)

This is a fantastic Wacky!!  Great gag, and so close to the real name!  The tag line about scrambled eggs is such a good tie in, too.  This is another Wacky name that I still use for the real product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 05, 2019, 11:24:55 AM
This is a fantastic Wacky!!  Great gag, and so close to the real name!  The tag line about scrambled eggs is such a good tie in, too.  This is another Wacky name that I still use for the real product.

Another one letter wonder Wacky and another title that would not make it into a general release series today.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on April 05, 2019, 11:33:28 AM
another favorite of mine... great gag, gets right to the point!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 05, 2019, 04:33:02 PM
Three toys in a row on the checklist! Killy Putty and Silly Putty...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s/killyputty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fWfmJ0s)(https://i.postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T/1-8028c929eff439879a045316679edcf6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDMmfQ6T)
Absolute eye candy for our juvenile selves back in 74, and of course still today.  Painfully cute product packaging to start with; the simple concept was perfect execution.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 07, 2019, 05:57:25 AM
Finishing the 9th Series - Shake and Skip vs Sheaffer Skrip...

(https://i.postimg.cc/grXwD5qS/skip-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grXwD5qS)(https://i.postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K/Skrip.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 07, 2019, 06:38:24 AM
Completely unfamiliar with this product, however love the blue jar and the lighting on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 07, 2019, 06:57:54 AM
Finishing the 9th Series - Shake and Skip vs Sheaffer Skrip...

(https://i.postimg.cc/grXwD5qS/skip-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grXwD5qS)(https://i.postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K/Skrip.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K)
This is one of the few obscure products that I do actually recognize.  Way back then we had a few fountain pens for whatever reason, I guess they were still somewhat common in the early 70s.  Anyway, this was the ink you would dip into to write with.  That curved glass line you can see in the image was a little reservoir at the top of the jar.  You could tilt the jar enough for ink to fill that little bowl and then you could dip into that instead of reaching down into the lower portion of the jar as the ink level gradually lowered.  Just a way to keep your hand clean I guess.  Still a mess to deal with though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on April 07, 2019, 07:01:53 AM
This is one of my favorite titles from this series! Every time I look at the toe standing on the gorilla, I start to laugh! One thing I never figured out, was what the "OD", on the dog tag (or toe tag!) stood for... any thoughts?

O-Diferous
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 07, 2019, 09:36:27 AM
fantastic painting, with Norm's signature warm lighting to one side. and perhaps a window is the reflection on the left?

the jokes are not quite in sync, as we've seen on a number of others (like Cram). If it's great for writing checks that bounce, then simply "made from melted rubber" would make more more sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 07, 2019, 03:26:11 PM
Finishing the 9th Series - Shake and Skip vs Sheaffer Skrip...

(https://i.postimg.cc/grXwD5qS/skip-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grXwD5qS)(https://i.postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K/Skrip.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DVrcf3K)

On the parody, what is the purpose of the white strip draped over the jar on the left side, coming out of the top?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 07, 2019, 05:56:26 PM
It’s an additional little glass inkwell located at the top of the jar - see my earlier post. In the parody you’re seeing it from the side, basically in cross-section, where the wall of the inkwell meets the inside wall of the overall bottle.   Not sure if I explained it in a way that’s easy to visualize, but it’s a lot easier to recognize if you’ve seen the real product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 07, 2019, 06:00:22 PM
fantastic painting, with Norm's signature warm lighting to one side. and perhaps a window is the reflection on the left?

the jokes are not quite in sync, as we've seen on a number of others (like Cram). If it's great for writing checks that bounce, then simply "made from melted rubber" would make more more sense.

Exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 07, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
Google the real product (“Sheaffer’s Skrip bottle”)and you’ll see some empty bottles that make it a bit clearer to see.  The bottle glass is clear, not blue like Bromo Seltzer.  I guess the dark blue ink just makes it seem like blue glass.

Now if someone can educate me on LeRage’s in Series 13.....but ah, I’m getting ahead of myself.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 07, 2019, 09:17:10 PM
Google the real product (“Sheaffer’s Skrip bottle”)and you’ll see some empty bottles that make it a bit clearer to see.  The bottle glass is clear, not blue like Bromo Seltzer.  I guess the dark blue ink just makes it seem like blue glass.

Now if someone can educate me on LeRage’s in Series 13.....but ah, I’m getting ahead of myself.

I see what you're talking about. It's a smaller glass reservoir formed inside the bottle (pic attached). The parody artwork makes it look like a piece outside the bottle like a metal ribbon or something. Painting over that area with a semi-transparent dark blue overlay would have solved the problem.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PLcK9XT7/IMG-9974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLcK9XT7)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 07, 2019, 09:56:18 PM

Now if someone can educate me on LeRage’s in Series 13.....but ah, I’m getting ahead of myself.

LePage's Mucilage. Honey consistency glue came in a bottle with a red rubber tip with a slit in it for dispensing. Nasty stuff.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 08, 2019, 02:34:13 AM
LePage's Mucilage. Honey consistency glue came in a bottle with a red rubber tip with a slit in it for dispensing. Nasty stuff.

Do I remember a vile smell?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 08, 2019, 05:42:30 AM
Do I remember a vile smell?

I thought so and the glue would always get hard and crusty around the dispensing slit so you had to spend 5 minutes cleaning it off before you used it next. And another thing, is tasted nothing like honey... errr, according to my little sister.  :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 18, 2019, 12:12:36 PM
Finally getting caught up on things after being gone for a week at the Star Wars Celebration.

Kicking off Vintage Series 10 is Pupsi-Cola and Pepsi-Cola...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZBJW55BH/pupsi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBJW55BH)(https://i.postimg.cc/dknLkcGY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dknLkcGY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 18, 2019, 02:37:12 PM
Gotta love Pupsi! Great parody all around!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 18, 2019, 03:22:28 PM
As I’m sure most here noticed in the past year, Pepsi rolled out retro cans and bottles with this design, I think late last spring, and it was really cool to see.  It’s amazing what you don’t appreciate until it disappears for a long time.  Now if they went 100% retro by featuring these sturdier cans, and glass bottles with styrofoam wrap (like 8th Burpsi), I’d be hoarding the empties!  :-[
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 19, 2019, 03:38:23 AM
Finally getting caught up on things after being gone for a week at the Star Wars Celebration.

Kicking off Vintage Series 10 is Pupsi-Cola and Pepsi-Cola...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZBJW55BH/pupsi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBJW55BH)(https://i.postimg.cc/dknLkcGY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dknLkcGY)

A great Wacky!  Love the gag, the tag lines are perfect, and the dog is awesome!  And, another great job on the packaging - the can highlights are fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 19, 2019, 03:41:20 AM
As I’m sure most here noticed in the past year, Pepsi rolled out retro cans and bottles with this design, I think late last spring, and it was really cool to see.  It’s amazing what you don’t appreciate until it disappears for a long time.  Now if they went 100% retro by featuring these sturdier cans, and glass bottles with styrofoam wrap (like 8th Burpsi), I’d be hoarding the empties!  :-[

I'd hoard empties of the glass bottles with styrofoam wrap! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on April 19, 2019, 09:03:29 AM
Love this title, always have, just for the memories alone.  I recall getting the 10th series
when it first came out, getting packs down at the local pharmacy/grocery store
down the Cape where I spent many summers.  I even remember where I was
in my family's house down there when I was opening the packs.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on April 19, 2019, 09:17:23 AM
I like Pupsi but honestly, I think Burpsi was better!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 19, 2019, 05:23:23 PM
Love this title, always have, just for the memories alone.  I recall getting the 10th series
when it first came out, getting packs down at the local pharmacy/grocery store
down the Cape where I spent many summers.  I even remember where I was
in my family's house down there when I was opening the packs.
There’s nothing like that personal connection to individual series that you remember with some clarity.  Like most, I love all of 1-16, but the sentimental favorites will always top my list because of that connection, even though I only remember a fraction of those particular series.  Beyond that, I missed not only entire series but runs of series!  10 to 12, never saw a single sticker back in the day.  Still can’t figure out how that could have happened.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on April 20, 2019, 07:17:59 AM
I was a late-comer during the Original Series run.  I really didn't become aware of them until about the 5th series.  I had some friends who gave me a few 5th series stickers and then when I went to a store to buy some they were on the 6th series by then.  I keenly remember 6th thru 9th series.  Never saw 10th but I did have 11th and 12th.  Never saw 13th but had a ton of 14th.  And then I never saw 15th or 16th either.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 20, 2019, 09:26:48 AM
I started at the 2nd series and then went on-and-off up to the 15th. Never saw or even knew about the 16th series until years after the fact and missed the 1st series entirely, except for one of the wall posters.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 20, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
I was a late-comer during the Original Series run.  I really didn't become aware of them until about the 5th series.  I had some friends who gave me a few 5th series stickers and then when I went to a store to buy some they were on the 6th series by then.  I keenly remember 6th thru 9th series.  Never saw 10th but I did have 11th and 12th.  Never saw 13th but had a ton of 14th.  And then I never saw 15th or 16th either.
I think this is very typical for most of us; it’s just a matter of which series were hit and miss depending on the distribution in your local vicinity.  With demand so high in the first half of the run, I’m sure store owners were happy to have any series on hand.  I could easily see where a retailer orders a bunch of say 5th, not knowing the 6th just hit the street.  Kids in the know go looking elsewhere for the new 6th (slowing down your location’s sales and keeping him in stock of 5th), but you keep buying those 5th packs at your location because it’s the only one that you can access and you’re thinking it’s still the current series.  By the time your guy reorders, he gets a shipment of 7th.  I’m sure that sort of scenario must have happened all the time.  In contrast to BustedFinger’s experience, I had extended exposure to the 13th but never saw the 14th.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 20, 2019, 01:37:33 PM
My first packs were Series 2, but I later bought a couple of Series 1 packs at the same store - I guess the owner just mixed the red packs into the box on the counter.  I found packs from every series up through 15.  When I bought the reissue packs, I was thrilled to find so many "new" Wackys in the 4th reissue series.  I remember going through all my original checklists and those titles weren't there, so I thought they were completely new.  At least Ice Krunkles was  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 21, 2019, 04:33:00 AM
Me and my brother had to make the runs to different small grocery stores like White Hen Pantry to find them. We called many stores in advance. That's how we were on top of things. Never saw the 16th series. If we knew in the beginning there was a candy wholesaler an hour away on a bus route, we would have ventured out there to find cases of each series!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 21, 2019, 10:02:17 AM
Ah, if only.  $2.40 for 48 packs and a display box.  Wonder if we would have thought to keep the box back then.  I know it never occurred to me to save wrappers.  I probably ripped them to shreds to get at the stickers.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 21, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
Ah, if only.  $2.40 for 48 packs and a display box.  Wonder if we would have thought to keep the box back then.  I know it never occurred to me to save wrappers.  I probably ripped them to shreds to get at the stickers.

I bought a full box of Series 15, and didn't keep any wrappers or the box  :sad:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on April 21, 2019, 02:09:36 PM
I remember having to get the double-barrel shot of penicillin in my rear end and my mother carrying me to the Tinee Giant to get baseball cards.  They didn't have any, so I bought these weird things called Wacky Packages.  I remember the store charging 6 cents a pack even though the box clearly was marked 5.  I think she bought me a dollar's worth - 16 packs plus 4 cents tax.  They must've been 1st series tans because I remember going back a couple of weeks later with my own dollar and getting 2nd series white backs that I noticed were of thicker stock.  I don't remember a camel, so they weren't ludlows.  Unfortunately my 1st series were washed in my pants pocket, and none of them survived.  I remember series 2 through 14 but nothing after that.  By then, the local 7-11 had them and it seemed like the next series would come out before we could get all of one.  I completed a few of the series as a kid, then many years later when I was in college I found an add for them in a baseball card magazine.  My parents bought me the die cuts (only regular titles), ads (including Good 'n Empty) and the most of the other series I was missing for Christmas that year.  I seem to remember the die cuts, ads, and 1st series going for about $40-50 each, and the others I was missing (including 15th and 16th) selling for about $10-20 each.  I picked up the others in the late 90s on eBay, trading in John Mann's forum, and at a couple of Philly shows.  Good times and fun to remember.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 22, 2019, 04:54:53 AM
Lots of great memories shared!

Next in line is Mountain Goo compared to Mountain Dew...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JGXPKqf1/mountaingoo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGXPKqf1)(https://i.postimg.cc/RJ5JVsHP/Mountain-Dew1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJ5JVsHP)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 22, 2019, 02:34:16 PM
Like "Pupsi," the can is somewhat squat and disproportionate (which makes it look kind of weird IMO.)

On another note, check out that crazy, groovy lettering on both the parody can and the real can.  Ah, only in the 70s...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 22, 2019, 04:04:36 PM
Like "Pupsi," the can is somewhat squat and disproportionate (which makes it look kind of weird IMO.)

On another note, check out that crazy, groovy lettering on both the parody can and the real can.  Ah, only in the 70s...

Yeah, if the bottom of the can were more rounded to match the top, it would look less squat, I think.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 23, 2019, 01:26:56 AM
Another fantastic job, like Pupsi.  The overall gag is great, as are the characters and can reproduction.  Not sure about the "boo hooo!" tagline.  Maybe "Hot Stuff!" would work better?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 23, 2019, 02:06:18 AM
Another fantastic job, like Pupsi.  The overall gag is great, as are the characters and can reproduction.  Not sure about the "boo hooo!" tagline.  Maybe "Hot Stuff!" would work better?

They used to use the tag line “yahoo Mountain Dew”

https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA (https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 23, 2019, 04:11:56 AM
They used to use the tag line “yahoo Mountain Dew”

https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA (https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA)

Ah, that explains it - thanks!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 23, 2019, 04:54:35 AM
They used to use the tag line “yahoo Mountain Dew”

https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA (https://images.app.goo.gl/na6BFrzYG9wAiM3eA)

Thanks for the info! I updated the comparison image to include the real can with the "Ya-hooo!" on top of the can.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 24, 2019, 03:57:46 PM
I was a late-comer during the Original Series run.  I really didn't become aware of them until about the 5th series.  I had some friends who gave me a few 5th series stickers and then when I went to a store to buy some they were on the 6th series by then.  I keenly remember 6th thru 9th series.  Never saw 10th but I did have 11th and 12th.  Never saw 13th but had a ton of 14th.  And then I never saw 15th or 16th either.

I was lucky enough to start at series 1 and last all the way through series 15.  Never knew there was a 16 back in the day.  I loved Crust the most as a kid when series 1 came out.  And of course Cap'd Crud from series 2 since the real cereal was a favorite.  But I almost got worn out at series 5.  That series was on the shelved for what seemed like a year.  I had about 1,000 series 5 stickers!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 24, 2019, 04:51:47 PM
I was lucky enough to start at series 1 and last all the way through series 15.  Never knew there was a 16 back in the day.  I loved Crust the most as a kid when series 1 came out.  And of course Cap'd Crud from series 2 since the real cereal was a favorite.  But I almost got worn out at series 5.  That series was on the shelved for what seemed like a year.  I had about 1,000 series 5 stickers!
That’s highly irregular for the OS era.  I don’t remember any series hanging around for longer than maybe 2 months.  For me, the Reissues were the ultimate torture, specifically the first two sets.  They must have stayed in stores for 6 months each.  By this time I was about 12 and had a paper route so both my mobility and my buying power increased tremendously.  While I was thrilled at first to see Wackys again, I knew something was very different about them - there were entire swaths of completely unfamiliar titles, and there were titles I remembered from OS that were missing, leading to more questions than answers.  They ended up driving me a little nuts, because there was nowhere to go for answers to my questions.  So what was my therapy?  Keep buying them!  Needless to say, that strategy didn’t open any new portals of knowledge.   Series 3 and 4 presented a similar mix of familiar and unfamiliar, but they seemed to come and go much quicker.  I fell short of a single complete set of either series.  By contrast, I had multiple complete sets of Series 1 and 2.  Because of this experience, I was probably among the least excited about the Reissue 1 uncut sheet warehouse discovery during the 00’s.  Bought one anyway, because who can say no to a modestly priced full uncut sheet?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on April 24, 2019, 07:02:56 PM
Agree.

I never had Pupsi as a kid because Series 10 disappeared too fast. That's the series that broke the streak for me, as I had every full series before that (except Choke and Bum).


I like Pupsi but honestly, I think Burpsi was better!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 26, 2019, 11:32:57 AM
Oscar Moron and Oscar Mayer Bacon. I scoured the internet trying to find a matching real product image. The best I could find is a screen grab from a 70s era TV commercial on YouTube, and a Cooked Ham ad with similar packaging. Anyone have a better image?

(https://i.postimg.cc/F7m6q8zx/oscarmoron.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7m6q8zx)(https://i.postimg.cc/jWBrpcn4/Screen-Shot-2019-04-26-at-1-19-22-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/jWBrpcn4)(https://i.postimg.cc/p5JbntGs/DT0775.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5JbntGs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on April 27, 2019, 09:11:20 AM
I was lucky enough to start at series 1 and last all the way through series 15.  Never knew there was a 16 back in the day.  I loved Crust the most as a kid when series 1 came out.  And of course Cap'd Crud from series 2 since the real cereal was a favorite.  But I almost got worn out at series 5.  That series was on the shelved for what seemed like a year.  I had about 1,000 series 5 stickers!

I started toward the end of the 2nd series (one week before the 3rd series hit the shelves!), and collected all the way up to the 15th series. I had the same experience with the 10th series. I kept buying 10th series packs for two reasons, 1) to snag the elusive Pupsi Cola, 2) to give me something to do until the 11th series came out. I ended up finding a Pupsi Cola in the wild (in a pack that had a non-Pupsi checklist!) The 11th series never hit my area. We jumped from 10th to 12th. I ended up finally trading for a complete 11th set well after the 14th series was released. Because I bought so many 10th series boxes & packs, I ended up with 14 NM/MT complete sets. I still have those 14 sets in my collection as a reminder of the great "11th Series Famine of '74"... that was a time of great struggles, but I am stronger today because of those trials.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Soremel on April 27, 2019, 09:49:26 AM
Ah, if only.  $2.40 for 48 packs and a display box.  Wonder if we would have thought to keep the box back then.  I know it never occurred to me to save wrappers.  I probably ripped them to shreds to get at the stickers.

I was one of those odd kids who thought "Hey, these might be worth something in the future."! I received relentless ridicule for doing this, but it didn't deter me at all. (Oh, and each of those boxes has all of their original wrappers inside!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV/20190427-123047-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 27, 2019, 09:57:27 AM
Oscar Moron and Oscar Mayer Bacon. I scoured the internet trying to find a matching real product image. The best I could find is a screen grab from a 70s era TV commercial on YouTube, and a Cooked Ham ad with similar packaging. Anyone have a better image?

(https://i.postimg.cc/F7m6q8zx/oscarmoron.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7m6q8zx)(https://i.postimg.cc/jWBrpcn4/Screen-Shot-2019-04-26-at-1-19-22-PM.png) (https://postimg.cc/jWBrpcn4)(https://i.postimg.cc/p5JbntGs/DT0775.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5JbntGs)

Something about this one always made me smile.  It looked like the packas my mother used to buy, and it does look like bacon.  The pig is funny, too. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 27, 2019, 11:03:11 AM
Notice the white rectangular space for a price.  Hearkens back to simpler, pre bar code / computer times when one could pick up a grocery item and actually see the price (as opposed to searching the edge of shelves in confusion hoping to spot the correct price.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, go to Walmart and search for prices. Or worse yet, get stuck behind somebody in line waiting for a price search.  Computers may have their advantages, but making life less complicated is not one of them.  They just seem to add more weight to an already burdensome load.)

My first job was working in the produce section of a supermarket weighing fruits and vegetables for people so they knew how much they were actually paying before they got to the register.  Somewhere there must be a graveyard filled with thousands of supermarket scales.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on April 27, 2019, 11:21:44 AM
I was one of those odd kids who thought "Hey, these might be worth something in the future."! I received relentless ridicule for doing this, but it didn't deter me at all. (Oh, and each of those boxes has all of their original wrappers inside!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV/20190427-123047-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV)
Whoa! :great: :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 27, 2019, 11:39:38 AM
LePage's Mucilage. Honey consistency glue came in a bottle with a red rubber tip with a slit in it for dispensing. Nasty stuff.
And don't forget Stifford's Messy Mucilage (Stafford's Office Mucilage) from Series 5!

I know, I'm a little late with this.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 27, 2019, 01:25:44 PM
Notice the white rectangular space for a price.  Hearkens back to simpler, pre bar code / computer times when one could pick up a grocery item and actually see the price (as opposed to searching the edge of shelves in confusion hoping to spot the correct price.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, go to Walmart and search for prices. Or worse yet, get stuck behind somebody in line waiting for a price search.  Computers may have their advantages, but making life less complicated is not one of them.  They just seem to add more weight to an already burdensome load.)

My first job was working in the produce section of a supermarket weighing fruits and vegetables for people so they knew how much they were actually paying before they got to the register.  Somewhere there must be a graveyard filled with thousands of supermarket scales.

Yes, I too find that white space nostalgic.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 29, 2019, 07:50:09 AM
I was one of those odd kids who thought "Hey, these might be worth something in the future."! I received relentless ridicule for doing this, but it didn't deter me at all. (Oh, and each of those boxes has all of their original wrappers inside!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV/20190427-123047-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKSm1QfV)

Dang, that was incredibly smart on your part.  I wish I would have done that, as does everyone else.  That is very cool.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 03, 2019, 02:09:59 PM
Life Servers and Life Savers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/QBQ3R8qt/lifeservers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBQ3R8qt)(https://i.postimg.cc/bSJfDQfD/Life-Savers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSJfDQfD)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 03, 2019, 04:22:55 PM
Good parody.  Clever how the spaces between the candy form the bars of the prison cell.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 03, 2019, 04:27:06 PM
An overlooked beauty, at least for me. So well rendered.
And made for great boxer shorts art too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2019, 07:10:44 PM
Life Servers and Life Savers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/QBQ3R8qt/lifeservers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBQ3R8qt)(https://i.postimg.cc/bSJfDQfD/Life-Savers.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSJfDQfD)

This one is fantastic, with a perfect gag, the character, and the dents between the candy pieces being the bars.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 06, 2019, 04:41:07 AM
Hiccup's Milk of Amnesia and Phillips' Milk of Magnesia...

(https://i.postimg.cc/VJ6K25Nf/hiccups-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJ6K25Nf)(https://i.postimg.cc/grts8mD1/Phillip-s-Milk-of-Magnesia1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grts8mD1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 06, 2019, 05:40:14 PM
Nice quintessential Wacky, well-rendered bottle and good goofy character.

A lot of Wackys have drunkenness themes, but this goes a full step further toward a full-on blackout.  Causes ‘amnesia’ and makes you ‘forget who you are.’  Absurdism at its finest!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 07, 2019, 03:46:14 AM
Hiccup's Milk of Amnesia and Phillips' Milk of Magnesia...

(https://i.postimg.cc/VJ6K25Nf/hiccups-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJ6K25Nf)(https://i.postimg.cc/grts8mD1/Phillip-s-Milk-of-Magnesia1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grts8mD1)

Good gag and associated taglines, and funny drunk character.  The bottle is a great copy, and the cap is especially well done.  A solid Wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on May 07, 2019, 06:26:39 AM
fun but absolutely useless fact about this one:  I cannot even swallow this stuff, period.  The texture, the chalkiness, whatever..... ecccch!

oh, the concept is great, though, love the artwork!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 07, 2019, 12:05:51 PM
fun but absolutely useless fact about this one:  I cannot even swallow this stuff, period.  The texture, the chalkiness, whatever..... ecccch!

oh, the concept is great, though, love the artwork!

Same here. I never really cared for this Wacky but I think it was due to psychological scars because of bad experiences with the product itself, at a young age. This stuff is like drinking pureed chalk. Now, I can appreciate the Wacky more thoroughly since I don't force myself to take this abomination. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 10, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Greaseline and Vaseline. Something like "Gaseline" could have worked as a better parody. Lots of potential with the "Pure Petroleum Jelly" tagline. Maybe the characters on the jar are a husband and wife, with the husband smiling at his wife excitedly, who has "Gaseline" on her face. Using the old thought that men are turned on by their wives if they smell like stuff that men like instead of perfume.

(https://i.postimg.cc/svt9CDSZ/greaseline-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svt9CDSZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/svSGSPQv/Vaseline1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svSGSPQv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 16, 2019, 04:53:20 AM
Nutt's Apple Sauce and Mott's Apple Sauce

(https://i.postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT/nutts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT)(https://i.postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7/Mott-s-Apple-Sauce.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 16, 2019, 07:26:09 AM
The painting is rather well done.  The jar actually looks like it would break if you dropped it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 16, 2019, 11:17:55 AM
Nutt's is fine and all, but how about a Neil Camera version of "Bots Android Sauce" with the little guys frolicking on the label?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 16, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
Nutt's Apple Sauce and Mott's Apple Sauce

(https://i.postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT/nutts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT)(https://i.postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7/Mott-s-Apple-Sauce.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7)
Of the handful of series I have no sentimental attachment to, from having never seen them as a kid, I think the 10th is my favorite, and this one is probably the best of the bunch for me.  Not particularly funny or witty, but in terms of phenomenal painting/rendering and adorable goofball characters, this one is tough to beat. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 16, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
Nutt's Apple Sauce and Mott's Apple Sauce

(https://i.postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT/nutts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6CVMPPT)(https://i.postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7/Mott-s-Apple-Sauce.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnqtqcq7)

I think this is a really good gag, and I can't see anyone panning the jar depiction or the nutty characters.  I really do like this one!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 17, 2019, 05:40:02 AM
Of the handful of series I have no sentimental attachment to, from having never seen them as a kid, I think the 10th is my favorite, and this one is probably the best of the bunch for me.  Not particularly funny or witty, but in terms of phenomenal painting/rendering and adorable goofball characters, this one is tough to beat.

Someone mentioned a while back that the rendering on the glass with that dot texture was among the best illustration work on this series. I agree!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 24, 2019, 11:04:09 AM
Sorry for the delay. We had to euthanize our 19 year old cat last weekend. Still not over his loss, but it gets a little better every day accepting it.

Scary Jane and Mary Jane...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F73dMKgt/scaryjane-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F73dMKgt)(https://i.postimg.cc/Wds3xw1r/Mary-Jane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wds3xw1r)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on May 24, 2019, 12:18:52 PM
Ugh. I'm so sorry. That's a tough loss.


I liked Scary Jane because it was a parody of something I usually only saw on Halloween.



Sorry for the delay. We had to euthanize our 19 year old cat last weekend. Still not over his loss, but it gets a little better every day accepting it.

Scary Jane and Mary Jane...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F73dMKgt/scaryjane-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F73dMKgt)(https://i.postimg.cc/Wds3xw1r/Mary-Jane.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wds3xw1r)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 24, 2019, 12:21:12 PM
Sorry for the delay. We had to euthanize our 19 year old cat last weekend. Still not over his loss, but it gets a little better every day accepting it.

Scary Jane and Mary Jane...

Sorry to hear of your loss.  It's a hard thing having to euthanize a loving companion.  Last year I had to put down three of my cats in a span of two days.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I like the Scary Jane parody, though can't quite say the same for the actual candy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 01, 2019, 12:12:58 PM
Thanks for the kind words, everyone! Next up is Caraid and Curad...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV/caraid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV)(https://i.postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M/Curad.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on June 01, 2019, 05:07:51 PM
I like the Scary Jane parody, though can't quite say the same for the actual candy.

I guess you're not a fan of their theme song: 

:035: Mary Jane, Mary Jane, everybody's favorite, Mary Jane.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 01, 2019, 08:12:50 PM
Thanks for the kind words, everyone! Next up is Caraid and Curad...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV/caraid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV)(https://i.postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M/Curad.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M)

I like this one.  Clever parody, I like the way the car is rendered - perspective looks a little imperfect, but that’s part of its charm.  “You Auto Use ‘Em” is funny, and I like the odd perspective / orientation of the box, makes this a unique title overall.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 02, 2019, 02:14:00 AM
Thanks for the kind words, everyone! Next up is Caraid and Curad...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV/caraid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Czr7CyHV)(https://i.postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M/Curad.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bxFVg8M)

I always liked this one - good gag with matching taglines, and a nicely done metal package.  I love the way the bandage wraps around the side.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 07, 2019, 06:22:13 AM
Happy Friday! Bum Beggar Beans and B&M Baked Beans. Not the same size jar, but the label is a close match.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hXn4KjRR/bumbeggar-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXn4KjRR)(https://i.postimg.cc/qNQr0xG2/B-M-Beans1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNQr0xG2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on June 07, 2019, 10:01:23 AM
I remember liking this one even as a kid.  The jar is very well done, and the nostalgic characters have a certain appeal.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 08, 2019, 01:10:11 PM
Agree completely with Baked Bears.  One of several great glass jar renderings in this series, and the characters are super cute.  All-around good one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 08, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Happy Friday! Bum Beggar Beans and B&M Baked Beans. Not the same size jar, but the label is a match.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hXn4KjRR/bumbeggar-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXn4KjRR)(https://i.postimg.cc/qNQr0xG2/B-M-Beans1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNQr0xG2)

Great gag and taglines, and the jar is fantastic.  I like the characters, too.  But "Broken Oven" needs to curve with the jar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 08, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
I think it’s because of that stencil-cut lettering the artists started using around the 4th or 5th Series, to save time by skipping some of the hand lettering.  Works fine on flat boxes but obviously an issue here with the curvature.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 11, 2019, 04:26:03 PM
Pepto-Dismal and Pepto-Bismol...

(https://i.postimg.cc/rzmCW2XD/peptodismal-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzmCW2XD)(https://i.postimg.cc/z3cwF280/Pepto-Bismol.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3cwF280)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 11, 2019, 08:05:27 PM
Reminds me how much more freely terms like DIARRHEA were thrown around in advertising back then.  Nowadays everything is so sanitized that you have to guess what some products are used for.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on June 12, 2019, 07:16:34 AM
Pepto-Dismal and Pepto-Bismol...

(https://i.postimg.cc/rzmCW2XD/peptodismal-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzmCW2XD)(https://i.postimg.cc/z3cwF280/Pepto-Bismol.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3cwF280)
Does anyone else here notice how every symptom in the current Pepto-Bismol commercial jingle is mentioned on the bottle shown here except for "heartburn"?

As in "Nau-sea, heart-burn, in-di-ges-tion, up-set sto-mach, dia-r-rhe-a" (repeat ad infinitum and ad nauseum)?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 15, 2019, 12:30:59 PM
Heavy and Hefty, with the late great Jonathan Winters!

(https://i.postimg.cc/DSRFnY35/heavy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSRFnY35)(https://i.postimg.cc/VSyy3rXV/Hefty1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSyy3rXV)(https://i.postimg.cc/PLmGhX4r/Hefty2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLmGhX4r)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 15, 2019, 02:21:52 PM
Heavy and Hefty, with the late great Jonathan Winters!

(https://i.postimg.cc/DSRFnY35/heavy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSRFnY35)(https://i.postimg.cc/VSyy3rXV/Hefty1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSyy3rXV)(https://i.postimg.cc/PLmGhX4r/Hefty2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLmGhX4r)

I forgot about the character being Jonathan Winters!  I like this one, good gag and taglines, the package is right on, great art with the character and trash, but the character's right arm seems unusually long.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 15, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
“Laugh while your garbage man struggles”, that’s a good one.

Very much a product of its time - look at all those garbage items which in today’s world have to be separately stockpiled for recycling, depending on where you live of course.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 21, 2019, 10:24:54 AM
As the crickets chirp, here is the next one. Bigtumi and Buitoni. Impossible to find a vintage photo of the spaghetti sauce. Just a modern jar and some other Buitoni products with the 1970s logo on it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zL83Drgn/bigtumi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zL83Drgn)(https://i.postimg.cc/B836M0Zj/Buitoni4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B836M0Zj)(https://i.postimg.cc/4K130SnB/Buitoni5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4K130SnB)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 21, 2019, 01:53:52 PM
As the crickets chirp, here is the next one. Bigtumi and Buitoni. Impossible to find a vintage photo of the spaghetti sauce. Just a modern jar and some other Buitoni products with the 1970s logo on it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zL83Drgn/bigtumi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zL83Drgn)(https://i.postimg.cc/B836M0Zj/Buitoni4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B836M0Zj)(https://i.postimg.cc/4K130SnB/Buitoni5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4K130SnB)

I wonder if this is similar to B&M baked beans, I don't know that B&M was ever was sold in a "regular shaped" jar like that on the Wacky. The Bean pot shape seemed to be their brand through the years. I always thought it was done that way on the Wacky to better allow room for the artwork and gags. The Buitoni brand is not one I was familiar with in my young years, but perhaps it was also done in this style for the same, assumed,  reason as B&M.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on June 21, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
Swiski, you just may have created the newest soap opera title for insects: As the Crickets Chirp!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 21, 2019, 02:29:59 PM
As the crickets chirp, here is the next one. Bigtumi and Buitoni. Impossible to find a vintage photo of the spaghetti sauce. Just a modern jar and some other Buitoni products with the 1970s logo on it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zL83Drgn/bigtumi-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zL83Drgn)(https://i.postimg.cc/B836M0Zj/Buitoni4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B836M0Zj)(https://i.postimg.cc/4K130SnB/Buitoni5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4K130SnB)

I don't remember Buitoni from back then.  The Wacky is another example of a well done glass jar and character.  I used to think the main gag should have been BigTony, which would have been perfect for my uncle.........
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 21, 2019, 06:25:02 PM
The Big Tony idea sounds perfect, but maybe they wanted to avoid the possible perception of recycling “Run Tony” from the 2nd.  I’m probably overthinking it - why would they be concerned about the one kid in a million who might pick up on that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on June 24, 2019, 06:25:07 PM
This is an example of a product that was completely unknown to me, but I thought the Wacky was great anyway.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 27, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
Stove Glop and Stove Top...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ/stoveglop-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ/32c484c5c4fa4060ef3677a58f590692.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 28, 2019, 02:38:28 AM
Just ok on this one, mainly because the package design doesn’t give the artist much to work with.  The words ‘Stove Top’ are too large and dominate the graphics.  I guess scaling them down a bit in the parody could have helped.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 28, 2019, 04:33:07 AM
Stove Glop and Stove Top...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ/stoveglop-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ/32c484c5c4fa4060ef3677a58f590692.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ)

This one may not win best Wacky character but deserves a tryth in advertising award. I think the parody and gags on this one are above average.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 28, 2019, 04:41:38 AM
Stove Glop and Stove Top...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ/stoveglop-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ/32c484c5c4fa4060ef3677a58f590692.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ)

I always liked this one.  Good gag, and I really like the character and fire.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 28, 2019, 06:24:28 AM
Stove Glop and Stove Top...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ/stoveglop-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsF58BkQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ/32c484c5c4fa4060ef3677a58f590692.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xr56PbmZ)
Anyone know why the lettering on the parody was pink? It supposed to be yellow. I don't think the real box ever had pink lettering clashing with red.
The woman's eyes bug me too. She should be looking downward at the glop creature. Not upwards.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 28, 2019, 09:41:58 AM
Anyone know why the lettering on the parody was pink? It supposed to be yellow. I don't think the real box ever had pink lettering clashing with red.
The woman's eyes bug me too. She should be looking downward at the glop creature. Not upwards.

Maybe she's looking to heaven for help?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 28, 2019, 07:09:17 PM
Anyone know why the lettering on the parody was pink? It supposed to be yellow. I don't think the real box ever had pink lettering clashing with red.
The woman's eyes bug me too. She should be looking downward at the glop creature. Not upwards.
I doubt the artist would have changed the colors arbitrarily.  Chances are there was a real product with the pink and red, maybe for only a short time.  I remember Stove Top used to offer slightly different stuffing recipes depending on whether chicken, pork or beef was part of the meal, so maybe the packaging colors varied for that?  Just pondering possibilities.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 29, 2019, 02:11:33 AM
I doubt the artist would have changed the colors arbitrarily.  Chances are there was a real product with the pink and red, maybe for only a short time.  I remember Stove Top used to offer slightly different stuffing recipes depending on whether chicken, pork or beef was part of the meal, so maybe the packaging colors varied for that?  Just pondering possibilities.

They still have chicken, turkey, pork, and herb varieties, and the colors vary.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 03, 2019, 08:42:50 PM
Sunsweat and Sunsweet Prune Juices compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/V5SFt9Lb/sunsweat-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5SFt9Lb) (https://i.postimg.cc/kRcMG6ZM/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRcMG6ZM)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 03, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Sunsweat and Sunsweet Prune Juices compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/V5SFt9Lb/sunsweat-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5SFt9Lb) (https://i.postimg.cc/kRcMG6ZM/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRcMG6ZM)

Pretty good gag, great character, and decent tag lines.  And another very well done glass bottle!  I loved this one as a kid; we often had a bottle of this in the fridge back then, and I still think of it with the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 04, 2019, 07:12:02 AM
Yes, the bottle is exceptionally well done.  Notice the detail and full spectrum of colors Norm used, as well as all of the reflection and refraction going on.  Even the dozens of bubbles are multicolored.  I can still distinctly recall sitting in school, studying this particular title, and admiring the artwork.  Norm didn't have to go into such detail, and yet he did, marvelous evidence of a master artist at work.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 04, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
Some of the Saunders glass jar renderings are truly striking in terms of not only the use of subtle coloring to convey the translucence of the glass, but also to create an external illumination effect, meaning, in this case, that the bottle has the feel of what it might look like inside a refrigerator late at night.  Illuminated on all sides, but otherwise surrounded by darkness.  At least that’s the feeling I get when I look at it.  Wish we could ask Norm what kind of vibe he was shooting for....

And the character is truly creepy.  If the goal was to create a look of a human prune, mission accomplished.  Reminds me of Uncle Creepy from the Warren horror comics.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on July 07, 2019, 06:43:29 AM

And the character is truly creepy.  If the goal was to create a look of a human prune, mission accomplished.  Reminds me of Uncle Creepy from the Warren horror comics.

This is why I don't drink prune juice to this day. Call me irregular...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 09, 2019, 08:27:08 PM
Diet Frite and Diet Rite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M/dietfrite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M)(https://i.postimg.cc/wtx23h6W/Diet-Rite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtx23h6W)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 13, 2019, 05:08:54 AM
Tic Toc and Tic Tac...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J/tictoc-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J) (https://i.postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY/Tic-Tac2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 13, 2019, 05:59:39 AM
Diet Frite and Diet Rite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M/dietfrite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M)(https://i.postimg.cc/wtx23h6W/Diet-Rite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtx23h6W)
Don’t want to see any title go by the boards with no comments whatsoever, so....

For some reason though I remember the product name well, the graphics on this one just don’t look familiar at all, not sure why.  I guess little kids see “diet”, think “no sugar”, and tune it out lol.

Nice enough rendering, though a monster character probably would have made this pop much better than just a frightened guy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 13, 2019, 06:13:16 AM
Diet Frite and Diet Rite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M/dietfrite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M)(https://i.postimg.cc/wtx23h6W/Diet-Rite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtx23h6W)

Great gag, good taglines, managed to add a funny character to an otherwise boring package, and yet another fantastic can top.  My mother drank this a lot, and I sometimes stuck extra stickers on the bottles.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 13, 2019, 06:17:13 PM
For some reason though I remember the product name well, the graphics on this one just don’t look familiar at all, not sure why.  I guess little kids see “diet”, think “no sugar”, and tune it out lol.
This is the version I remember much better:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Snph85xX/27-D9-FC0-D-EED8-4550-9675-CED6984-FB74-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snph85xX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2019, 05:46:04 AM
Tic Toc and Tic Tac...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J/tictoc-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J) (https://i.postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY/Tic-Tac2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY)

Fantastic gag, and the "tiny little time bombs" tagline fits in SO well!  And, I love the highlighting on the bombs and packaging.  Wouldn't think of changing a thing.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 14, 2019, 06:20:25 AM
Tic Toc and Tic Tac...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J/tictoc-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj4Q917J) (https://i.postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY/Tic-Tac2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykX3ZKwY)

Simple but terrific.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 14, 2019, 09:20:56 AM
This is the version I remember much better:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Snph85xX/27-D9-FC0-D-EED8-4550-9675-CED6984-FB74-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Snph85xX)
I remember that logo too, but the other one - not at all. Must've been the previous one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on July 15, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
So now I see why it says "Sudden Fear." It's a weird take on "Sugar Free."


Diet Frite and Diet Rite...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M/dietfrite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHHPMM1M)(https://i.postimg.cc/wtx23h6W/Diet-Rite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtx23h6W)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 19, 2019, 04:46:33 AM
As we await news regarding upcoming Wacky products or our Galactic Groceries sketches, here is the next series 10 comparison.

Underworld Deviled Ham and Underwood Be-Deviled Ham. The real product pretty much wrote it's own parody!

(https://i.postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs/underworld-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs) (https://i.postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N/Underwood-Deviled-Ham1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q/Underwood-Deviled-Ham2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on July 19, 2019, 10:57:27 AM
simple, but pure genius!  I love the character and how the pitchfork is now jabbing him!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 19, 2019, 10:58:06 AM
As we await news regarding upcoming Wacky products or our Galactic Groceries sketches, here is the next series 10 comparison.

Underworld Deviled Ham and Underwood Be-Deviled Ham. The real product pretty much wrote it's own parody!

(https://i.postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs/underworld-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs) (https://i.postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N/Underwood-Deviled-Ham1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q/Underwood-Deviled-Ham2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q)
I see that you got the names reversed. Is that a mistake, or is it deliberate?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 19, 2019, 11:44:41 AM
As we await news regarding upcoming Wacky products or our Galactic Groceries sketches, here is the next series 10 comparison.

Underworld Deviled Ham and Underwood Be-Deviled Ham. The real product pretty much wrote it's own parody!

(https://i.postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs/underworld-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zywRz3Xs) (https://i.postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N/Underwood-Deviled-Ham1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMs2HY8N)(https://i.postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q/Underwood-Deviled-Ham2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg9Lgh4q)

Wouldn't change a thing!  Fantastic gag, great taglines, and I love the devil reacting to the pitchfork sticking him in the backside.  My mother used to buy this, and I laughed every time I saw it in the fridge.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on July 19, 2019, 05:29:23 PM
funny, my Mother always had this, and my older brother loved deviled ham sandwiches.

Me, love the Wacky, hate the product! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on July 19, 2019, 07:27:10 PM
Perfect Wacky IMO.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 19, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
funny, my Mother always had this, and my older brother loved deviled ham sandwiches.

Me, love the Wacky, hate the product!
Couldnt bring myself to try the ham (or Spam / Cram for that matter) but I did have the liverwurst and deviled chicken a few times.  Tasty enough, but probably not even remotely healthy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on July 20, 2019, 09:00:17 AM
From Wikipedia about Wm. Underwood Co.:
Underwood first canned deviled ham in 1868 as a mixture of ground ham with seasonings; deviling would also be done with other meat and seafood products, including turkey, chicken, tongue and lobster. Deviling consists of adding such spices as pepper sauce, cayenne pepper, Dijon mustard, or chopped chili peppers. Deviled eggs are one well-known example of this process. The devil logo was trademarked in 1870 and it is the oldest food trademark still in use in the United States. The red devil that debuted in 1895 and started as a demonic figure evolved into a much friendlier version when compared to the original.

The older version, in use during the first half of the 20th century, can be seen in many old magazine advertisements, such as one from Woman's Home Companion, August 1921. It lacks the pitchfork and smile of the modern version, but has long fingernails or claws not found in the modern version. The barbed tail is in the shape of the letter W, and along with the lower-case M to the right of the devil forms the abbreviation "Wm.", for William, as in William Underwood. The lettering in the logo and on the can are also spouting small flames, reinforcing the spicy devil concept. In 2008, B&G Foods updated the devil logo by adding color to the previously all-red image. The pitchfork became black, and small amounts of yellow were added in the tail and horns, along with shading to add depth.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yvm0XSg9/Underwood-1921.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yvm0XSg9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fk3GS0hJ/2008-Underwood-focused.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fk3GS0hJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 23, 2019, 06:47:26 PM
Thanks for the history, Drono!

Next is Ruden's compared to Luden's cough drops...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JswjTgS3/rudens-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JswjTgS3)(https://i.postimg.cc/DmHGZHfV/Luden-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmHGZHfV)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 24, 2019, 04:33:58 AM
Thanks for the history, Drono!

Next is Ruden's compared to Luden's cough drops...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JswjTgS3/rudens-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JswjTgS3)(https://i.postimg.cc/DmHGZHfV/Luden-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmHGZHfV)

Good gag on the name, and the character sure livens up an otherwise very dull packages.  The tag lines about rude people and 'uncouth' fit in well.  I wonder why it's cough drops on the front and coarse drops on the top?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 24, 2019, 07:11:26 PM
Good gag on the name, and the character sure livens up an otherwise very dull packages.  The tag lines about rude people and 'uncouth' fit in well.  I wonder why it's cough drops on the front and coarse drops on the top?
Call it the Bizzarro Spit n Spill variant!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 28, 2019, 06:09:30 AM
Hairy Lee and Sara Lee Brownies. Difficult finding a matching real product image from the 1970s, but I did locate a different Sara Lee dessert that matches the design and layout, along with modern day Sara Lee brownie images.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6y1B3TXt/hariylee-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6y1B3TXt) (https://i.postimg.cc/qg1Tbggy/Sara-Lee1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg1Tbggy)(https://i.postimg.cc/9rzjvVqS/Sara-Lee2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rzjvVqS)(https://i.postimg.cc/3d6Hh6Xw/Sara-Lee3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d6Hh6Xw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 28, 2019, 08:55:29 AM
Didn’t see this one until the Reissues, but loved it instantly.  The concept of brownies made to look like living beings with those ridiculous hairpieces may be the most absurd Wacky image ever.  The artwork and foil packaging speaks for itself.  The ultimate in funny, incredibly cute and breathtaking art.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 30, 2019, 05:15:27 AM
Hairy Lee and Sara Lee Brownies. Difficult finding a matching real product image from the 1970s, but I did locate a different Sara Lee dessert that matches the design and layout, along with modern day Sara Lee brownie images.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6y1B3TXt/hariylee-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6y1B3TXt) (https://i.postimg.cc/qg1Tbggy/Sara-Lee1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qg1Tbggy)(https://i.postimg.cc/9rzjvVqS/Sara-Lee2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rzjvVqS)(https://i.postimg.cc/3d6Hh6Xw/Sara-Lee3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d6Hh6Xw)

I didn't notice until now that there is a ponytail on the toupee on the far right. Love the rendering and lighting on the aluminum! You can barely see the repeating Hairy Lee logos in lighter red on the red stripe on the left, but amazingly the press could hold those fine details at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on July 30, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
It's strange how these things happen!  I was at the Supermarket last night,
and I just happened to be walking by a small freezer section, no reason why,
and there was a frozen Sara Lee dessert, in the foil packaging, very similar
to the Wacky version.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 30, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
I didn't notice until now that there is a ponytail on the toupee on the far right. Love the rendering and lighting on the aluminum! You can barely see the repeating Hairy Lee logos in lighter red on the red stripe on the left, but amazingly the press could hold those fine details at the time.

Good eye!  I never spotted the repeating logos before - and probably still wouldn't have had if you hadn't pointed them out.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 30, 2019, 11:55:34 AM
Good eye!  I never spotted the repeating logos before - and probably still wouldn't have had if you hadn't pointed them out.
I just took a close look and saw them too! I never would've even noticed it unless you mentioned it, Swiski.

Now I'm going to have to look at my copy of the first Abrams book and see if the same thing is shown there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ToadallyDude on July 30, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Dang,
It's like history repeating itself a decade or so later.  I remember working on creating 'Hostess Doubles'-like diptychs of Wackys + their original product packaging back in the early 2000s.  Collecting all the old packaging or photos of it is the hardest part, especially from the right time-frame (early 70s), but then matching it up with the right angle & colorization, etc., really gets tough.  Can't remember who was heading those up... one of the many Dave's or Paul's?  But he did some really great ones, and they were posted somewhere for a while.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 30, 2019, 06:27:36 PM
I think Ernie (bandaches) initiated the Wacky doubles project.  He has mentioned it in the past, searching old magazines for images in advertisements and whatnot.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 31, 2019, 05:04:22 AM
Dang,
It's like history repeating itself a decade or so later.  I remember working on creating 'Hostess Doubles'-like diptychs of Wackys + their original product packaging back in the early 2000s.  Collecting all the old packaging or photos of it is the hardest part, especially from the right time-frame (early 70s), but then matching it up with the right angle & colorization, etc., really gets tough.  Can't remember who was heading those up... one of the many Dave's or Paul's?  But he did some really great ones, and they were posted somewhere for a while.

Are these images still online somewhere? Maybe their real product images are better than what I have in my collection. I've only been compiling them since 2004.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 31, 2019, 05:08:46 AM
I think Ernie (bandaches) initiated the Wacky doubles project.  He has mentioned it in the past, searching old magazines for images in advertisements and whatnot.

Cool! If Ernie has better images than what I'm posting, I'd love to see them, especially if he dug through old magazines and what-not. My source has been the internet. What I'd also love to see is Norman Saunders workbook he had when making the parodies along with sketches and photos, clipped ads of real products for reference.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on July 31, 2019, 09:28:14 AM
The Wacky Doubles can be viewed here:

http://www.wackypackage.com/Wacky%20Packs/HTML%20Stuff/project.html

I created several of these myself!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 01, 2019, 12:09:13 PM
Cool!  I think I did a bunch of these too!  I remember contributing photos of the packaging early on, but now that I see them I totally remember doing some of the actual Photoshop work, too.  All-Brain & Bug Wally for sure, and Czecklets.  Thanks for posting the link, Ernie!  I think I need to find my original HD with all my Wacky scans & info on it and make a copy for someone on here to carry the torch.  I'm sure my old database of where all the original Wacky Art is WAY out-dated, though, as it's consolidated considerably since then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on August 01, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
HA HA!  I'm Loren.  Ernie's forum name is Bandaches!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 01, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
Poopedridge Farm and Pepperidge Farm Cookies. Wondering if "Broken" was a spoof of "Pecan". Looks like the sugar cookie to me.
I love the attention to details in the logo. Even the vertical wood panels are uneven.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9z64Jc9h/poopedridgefarm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9z64Jc9h) (https://i.postimg.cc/xXYXVggp/Pepperidge-Farm1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXYXVggp)(https://i.postimg.cc/tY5DQjcn/logos-compared.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tY5DQjcn)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 02, 2019, 06:44:39 PM
HA HA!  I'm Loren.  Ernie's forum name is Bandaches!

Loren... sorry... the link was on his page so I did a switcheroo.  It was YOU that was working on the doubles then, right?  I remember corresponding with someone & sending images back & forth.  But my memory banks are filled with all new info about totally unrelated stuff lately.  I really need to go back & find my old files.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 03, 2019, 12:27:52 AM
Poopedridge Farm and Pepperidge Farm Cookies. Wondering if "Broken" was a spoof of "Pecan". Looks like the sugar cookie to me.
I love the attention to details in the logo. Even the vertical wood panels are uneven.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9z64Jc9h/poopedridgefarm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9z64Jc9h) (https://i.postimg.cc/xXYXVggp/Pepperidge-Farm1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXYXVggp)(https://i.postimg.cc/tY5DQjcn/logos-compared.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tY5DQjcn)

Decent gag and taglines, great art and details.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 05, 2019, 08:36:34 PM
Clunky and Chunky...

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtrH3kF4/clunky-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtrH3kF4) (https://i.postimg.cc/k6j0zWgg/Chunky.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6j0zWgg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2019, 12:14:42 PM
Clunky and Chunky...

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtrH3kF4/clunky-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtrH3kF4) (https://i.postimg.cc/k6j0zWgg/Chunky.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6j0zWgg)

Always liked this one. Simple but really capitalizes on the shape of the real product. Really nice painting on this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 06, 2019, 01:56:24 PM
Always liked this one. Simple but really capitalizes on the shape of the real product. Really nice painting on this one.

I agree.  This is a great classic Wacky!  Gag, taglines, packaging and a character added.  I still think of this product by the Wacky title.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 10, 2019, 02:24:06 PM
Painters Mixed Up Nuts and Planters Mixed Nuts...

(https://i.postimg.cc/PpS6JwXr/painters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpS6JwXr) (https://i.postimg.cc/ZBsc4zHW/Planters-Mixed-Nuts.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBsc4zHW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 15, 2019, 07:18:44 PM
Wow, this thread is getting buried! I better keep up!

Fishey Prize Toys is a made up product, which parodies Fisher Price Toys. In this case, I referenced the Chatter Telephone for packaging match...

(https://i.postimg.cc/crLcDcFc/fisheyprize-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crLcDcFc) (https://i.postimg.cc/SnXf4xF2/Fisher-Price1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnXf4xF2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on August 15, 2019, 08:40:43 PM
Wow, this thread is getting buried! I better keep up!

Fishey Prize Toys is a made up product, which parodies Fisher Price Toys. In this case, I referenced the Chatter Telephone for packaging match...

(https://i.postimg.cc/crLcDcFc/fisheyprize-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crLcDcFc) (https://i.postimg.cc/SnXf4xF2/Fisher-Price1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnXf4xF2)
I don't think think that this is a made up product here. I think that you hit the nail right on the head, as usual. The resemblance of both the Wacky product and the other product is absolutely uncanny! I've already put it in as an addition for the Master Spreadsheet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 16, 2019, 12:35:17 AM
Painters Mixed Up Nuts and Planters Mixed Nuts...

(https://i.postimg.cc/PpS6JwXr/painters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpS6JwXr) (https://i.postimg.cc/ZBsc4zHW/Planters-Mixed-Nuts.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBsc4zHW)

Decent gag, I always smile at the "mixed up nuts."  Great artwork, especially the grooves in the tin and the hardware.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 16, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
I don't think think that this is a made up product here. I think that you hit the nail right on the head, as usual. The resemblance of both the Wacky product and the other product is absolutely uncanny! I've already put it in as an addition for the Master Spreadsheet.

What Fisher Price toy was it a parody of?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on August 16, 2019, 09:16:13 AM
What Fisher Price toy was it a parody of?
I think you are partially correct in that the Wacky is not a direct parody of a specific toy, but rather the "toy" (or the "fish") was done to match the parody name "Fishey Prize".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 18, 2019, 08:10:54 AM
Lox and Lux soaps...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsx2jLhW/lox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsx2jLhW) (https://i.postimg.cc/ph5pcJC0/Lux.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ph5pcJC0)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 18, 2019, 08:28:23 AM
Lox and Lux soaps...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bsx2jLhW/lox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsx2jLhW) (https://i.postimg.cc/ph5pcJC0/Lux.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ph5pcJC0)

I always thought this was a great Wacky, and even better, it fit right on a bar of the soap  >:D  The gag and scent taglines are perfect, and I love the lady with the clothespin on her nose.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 18, 2019, 10:05:28 PM
I always thought this was a great Wacky, and even better, it fit right on a bar of the soap  >:D  The gag and scent taglines are perfect, and I love the lady with the clothespin on her nose.

I didn't appreciate this one at first until I learned that lox was a salmon product several years later.   Anyone else think the lox lady looks like Kellyanne Conway?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 23, 2019, 05:15:33 PM
Fishey Prize - nice middle-of-the-road Wacky, good eye appeal.  Seeing the real product match increases my appreciation of it.

Painters and Lox - always good when a product already has a character, rather than having to spruce up otherwise bland packaging by adding one.  Mr. Peanut is a ridiculous character to begin with, so the more Planter’s products are parodied the better IMO.  As for Lox, ok graphics but it would be very interesting to see how it would have turned out if the artist tried to match the real product character but only change the facial expression, rather than going with the complete goofball, sort of like how Ivery Snow and Vague Magazine (Old School) were rendered.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 24, 2019, 09:54:02 AM
I love everyone's comments on these...different perspectives and observations.

Here is Coffin-Mate and Coffee-Mate...

(https://i.postimg.cc/6TdzG0L1/coffinmate-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TdzG0L1)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVbvph46/Coffee-Mate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVbvph46)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on August 24, 2019, 04:44:01 PM
Good parody and another great jar by Norm Saunders!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 24, 2019, 05:49:01 PM
Perhaps the inspiration for ‘Drac’s Coffin Cakes’, one of my favorite ANS titles?

Yes, yet another great bottle rendering, and a monster-themed Wacky - don’t think this product could have been parodied any better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 24, 2019, 10:56:54 PM
I love everyone's comments on these...different perspectives and observations.

Here is Coffin-Mate and Coffee-Mate...

(https://i.postimg.cc/6TdzG0L1/coffinmate-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TdzG0L1)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVbvph46/Coffee-Mate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVbvph46)

Fantastic gag, and the tag line and character are perfect.  They nailed the label, and the glass jar and metal lid are awesome.  I wouldn't change a thing. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 30, 2019, 01:14:58 PM
Uncle Bum's Convicted Rice and Uncle Ben's Converted Rice...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJh35sPf/unclebums-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJh35sPf)(https://i.postimg.cc/dZh0S71j/Uncle-Ben-s-Rice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZh0S71j)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 30, 2019, 01:22:43 PM
Uncle Bum's Convicted Rice and Uncle Ben's Converted Rice...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJh35sPf/unclebums-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJh35sPf)(https://i.postimg.cc/dZh0S71j/Uncle-Ben-s-Rice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZh0S71j)

Love the gag and the characters, but even as a kid, the "prefered" misspelling bugged me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 30, 2019, 03:56:16 PM
Uncle Bum's Convicted Rice and Uncle Ben's Converted Rice...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJh35sPf/unclebums-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJh35sPf)(https://i.postimg.cc/dZh0S71j/Uncle-Ben-s-Rice.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZh0S71j)
The parody is very much a product of its time.  The notion of loitering, panhandling, begging, etc being jailable offenses is probably unfathomable to most in today’s world, at least in big cities.  Not to mention the term ‘bums.’  Come to think of it, the ‘bum’ is an often-used character and concept throughout the OS Wackys.  Bum Bums Candy, Bum’s Baked Beans, Bum’s Life Magazine, Earth Bum Shampoo, Uncle Bum’s and probably a few more.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 02, 2019, 06:23:10 AM
Casket and Cascade...

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhPwHkMQ/casket-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhPwHkMQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/xk7kDfC2/Cascade1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xk7kDfC2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 02, 2019, 06:54:25 AM
I like how the parody box also has a metallic sheen.  The funeral wreath is a nice touch.  I would have transferred the starburst from the original to the coffin on the parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on September 02, 2019, 08:36:28 AM
Casket and Cascade...
We use Cascade so every time I load/run the dishwasher, I think of this sticker. In my head, I hear: "Don't wash-bury your dishes". OK, sometimes I even say it out loud.   :o
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 04, 2019, 06:26:23 PM
Mold Power and Cold Power...

(https://i.postimg.cc/dD56Z0mv/moldpower-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dD56Z0mv)(https://i.postimg.cc/F1Hgv4t6/Cold-Power2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1Hgv4t6)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 05, 2019, 11:20:11 AM
Another great entry in this series!  Wonderful gag, a character made out of the wave, and tag lines that really go with the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 05, 2019, 11:22:21 AM
We use Cascade so every time I load/run the dishwasher, I think of this sticker. In my head, I hear: "Don't wash-bury your dishes". OK, sometimes I even say it out loud.   :o

Me too!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 07, 2019, 08:20:12 PM
Finishing up the vintage 10th series, Badzooka and Bazooka...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJFFq0JC/badzooka-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJFFq0JC)(https://i.postimg.cc/PpffFq4b/Bazooka.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpffFq4b)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 08, 2019, 03:34:13 PM
Finishing up the vintage 10th series, Badzooka and Bazooka...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJFFq0JC/badzooka-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJFFq0JC)(https://i.postimg.cc/PpffFq4b/Bazooka.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpffFq4b)

Not a lot to do with this one so a mediocre gag, but they nailed the wrapper and writing, and got a character in. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 10, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
Agree it’s hard to do much with the longer thinner packages, but I still like this one for the strong nostalgia I have for this format of Bazooka.  These packs had the so-called “dollar size” comics, which are not anywhere near as abundant today compared with the small comics.  Also a nice touch to show the unwrapped gum with the little crimp marks that make it easy to break into bite-size pieces.  And I agree the painting / rendering of the packaging is top notch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 11, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
I was dreading comparing parodies to real products in the vintage 11th series, mainly because it is comprised of many magazine parodies which don't have an exact issue or cover that it's spoofing. The artists who worked on the magazine parodies used 100% creative freedom on them. So....starting off the 11th series, we have The Saturday Evening Ghost and The Saturday Evening Post. Note: there was never a May 1975 issue in reality, but I posted images of the April and June 1975 covers for comparison.

(https://i.postimg.cc/cvRGhvqx/saturdayghost-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvRGhvqx) (https://i.postimg.cc/hJMWFNPN/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJMWFNPN) (https://i.postimg.cc/PLScVZSj/s-l1600-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLScVZSj)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 12, 2019, 11:37:00 AM
I was dreading comparing parodies to real products in the vintage 11th series, mainly because it is comprised of many magazine parodies which don't have an exact issue or cover that it's spoofing. The artists who worked on the magazine parodies used 100% creative freedom on them. So....starting off the 11th series, we have The Saturday Evening Ghost and The Saturday Evening Post. Note: there was never a May 1975 issue in reality, but I posted images of the April and June 1975 covers for comparison.

(https://i.postimg.cc/cvRGhvqx/saturdayghost-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvRGhvqx) (https://i.postimg.cc/hJMWFNPN/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJMWFNPN) (https://i.postimg.cc/PLScVZSj/s-l1600-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLScVZSj)
I think that it'll be very interesting to see what the magazines looked like back then.

I remember that, when I was a kid, my mom would buy Woman's Day and Family Circle every time that we went grocery shopping (until both of them got too expensive for her to do so). Every. Single. Time. Without fail.

It's a pity that both of them were going to be Wackys in the 1970s, but that only Family Circuit made it and Roman's Day didn't. Oh, well, maybe when someone finally decides to release the rest of the 1970s magazine parodies that didn't make it at all (possibly in any future 1970s OLDS series (hint hint, nudge nudge))...

Oh, and I haven't forgotten Famine Circle from the lost 1992 Series, either.

Just in case anyone's interested, here are the 1970s magazine parodies known to exist that didn't get released at all (the information is taken from lostwackys.com in its '74 Wacky Magazines section (except for Cyclone Toons, which is taken from its Lost Wackys section in the category Jay Lynch 1970's Unproduced Rough Art: Black & White)):

*Rotting Zone (Rolling Stone (still waiting for this one to be released in a future 1970s OLDS series, guys!))*
*Creep (Creem)*
*Cyclone Toons (Cycle Toons)*
*Eater's Digest (Reader's Digest)
*Foodoplay (Photoplay)*
*Grumpy Dumpty's Magazine (Humpty Dumpty's Magazine)
*Henhouse (Penthouse)*
*Madamgazelle (Mademoiselle)*
*Roman's Day (Woman's Day)*
*Salami Street Magazine (Sesame Street Magazine)
*Song Hates Magazine (Song Hits Magazine)*
*True Confetti (True Confessions)
*Zit Parader (Hit Parader)*.

These were all done by both Art Spiegelman and Jay Lynch (Jay's Wackys are marked with an asterisk; the ones that aren't are Art's). Only Rotting Zone exists as a finished Wacky, the rest of them are all roughs done in either black and white or color.

The 1985 Series also released these three magazine parodies:

*T.V. Ghoul (T.V. Guide)
*National Retirer (National Enquirer)
*Pimple Weekly (People Weekly).

However, the 1991 Series only released one:

*Popps Magazine (Topps Magazine).

The one 1991 Series parody was drawn by Drew Friedman and painted by Patrick Piggott. I don't know who did the artwork for the three 1985 Series parodies.

Now, as a bonus, here's some more magazine parodies from the lost 1992 Series that also haven't been released - yet:

*BOB Magazine (BOP Magazine)
*Boy's Lice (Boy's Life)
*CHIN (SPIN)
*Famine Circle (Family Circle)
*Heaventeen (Seventeen)
*LG (Louse & Garbage) (HG (House & Garden))
*Sad (Mad)
*Scar (Star)
*Soldier of Misfortune (Soldier of Fortune)
*Spleen Beat (Teen Beat)
*TV Died (TV Guide).

The roughs for these parodies were also drawn by Drew Friedman and, except for two of them (CHIN and Heaventeen) that exist only as rough art, the finished art for the rest of them was also painted by Patrick Piggott (two of these parodies, however (Famine Circle and LG (Louse & Garbage)), are unfinished, having only their titles and illustrations on both of them and the text for both of them on their roughs, but not on their final paintings).

Three finished magazine parodies from this series, however, have been released:

*Cranked Out! (Cracked)
*Harassame Street Magazine (Sesame Street Magazine)
*Richie Retch Big Chunks (Richie Rich Big Bucks).

The first two parodies were done by Tom Bunk and the third parody was done by John Pound. Strange that their magazine parodies for the lost 1992 Series were officially released, while Drew and Patrick's for the same series still remain officially unreleased.

Next, there were two fiction book parodies that were both made for the 15th Series (and which had also both been made into now-classic films by that time):

*Gums (Jaws)
*The Clodfather (The Godfather).

As everyone here knows, obviously, the first one was released and the second one wasn't (still waiting for this one to be released in a future 1970s OLDS series too, guys!). Also, I don't know who did the artwork for these two, either.

Later, the 1991 Series released three children's book parodies (one Little Golden Book parody and two Beginner Books by Dr. Seuss parodies) and one series book for pre-teen girls parody:

*Little Dead Kitten (The Shy Little Kitten)
*One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Dead Fish (One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish)
*The Rat in the Cat (The Cat in the Hat)
*The Baby-Splitters Club #1313: Separated at Birth-Day (The Baby-Sitters Club #21: The Trouble with Twins).

Another Beginner Book by Dr. Seuss parody was intended for this series, but it wouldn't be released until 2005 in ANS2:

*Plop on Pop (Hop on Pop: The Simplest Seuss For Youngest Use)

However, the lost 1992 Series has only one finished book parody (which was a series book for teen girls parody this time and, like this series' magazine parodies, again hasn't been released - yet):

*Sweat Valley High #666: Playing for Creeps (Sweet Valley High #49: Playing for Keeps).

Both the series book for pre-teen girls parody from the 1991 Series and the series book for teen girls parody from the lost 1992 Series mentioned here were, again, drawn by Drew Friedman and painted by Patrick Piggott. In the 1991 Series, Tom Bunk did the first and third children's book parodies in the above list and John Pound did the second children's book parody in the same list as well as Plop on Pop.

Well, not counting the ones that are being mentioned here now and the ones that will be mentioned later on, that's all of the known periodicals (i.e., books and magazines) that were parodied (or not) by Wacky Packages in (and outside of) the OS run and before 2004.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 12, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
I never really got into the magazine parodies (and still don't now) and believed they signaled the beginning of the end for Wackys.  First of all, there were too many of them at one time.  It was an onslaught.  One or two here and there might have been okay, but too many was exactly that: too many.  Secondly, they were supposed to be their own set - and should have been.  Instead Topps used a marketing ploy to get us to buy the magazine parodies by mixing them in with Wackys.  (This is similar to what they are doing to us now with WP and GPK.)  Finally, the product parodies are superior to the magazine parodies.  The product parodies looked like the products they were parodying - in terms of container shape, logos, lettering, etc..  This was a large part of what made Wackys appealing.  The only thing the magazine parodies did was mimic the cover title lettering.  Everything else was made up (as Swiski pointed out.)  They didn't even bother to parody any iconic covers.  Although it has been over forty years, I still remember how my friends and I were disillusioned - even disappointed - by the magazines.  We just couldn't elevate the magazines in stature in regard to the Wackys that came before, and they came in second place.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2019, 05:10:58 AM
I never really got into the magazine parodies (and still don't now) and believed they signaled the beginning of the end for Wackys.  First of all, there were too many of them at one time.  It was an onslaught.  One or two here and there might have been okay, but too many was exactly that: too many.  Secondly, they were supposed to be their own set - and should have been.  Instead Topps used a marketing ploy to get us to buy the magazine parodies by mixing them in with Wackys.  (This is similar to what they are doing to us now with WP and GPK.)  Finally, the product parodies are superior to the magazine parodies.  The product parodies looked like the products they were parodying - in terms of container shape, logos, lettering, etc..  This was a large part of what made Wackys appealing.  The only thing the magazine parodies did was mimic the cover title lettering.  Everything else was made up (as Swiski pointed out.)  They didn't even bother to parody any iconic covers.  Although it has been over forty years, I still remember how my friends and I were disillusioned - even disappointed - by the magazines.  We just couldn't elevate the magazines in stature in regard to the Wackys that came before, and they came in second place.

I agree. The magazine parodies were always my least favorite too. I also wish they would have spoofed iconic covers of these magazines. However, there is a Lost Wacky rough sketch of an unused Time magazine parody that spoofed a Man of the Year cover.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CByNjVFR/Tomb-magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CByNjVFR) (https://i.postimg.cc/qzB9t2b9/1974-c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzB9t2b9)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 13, 2019, 06:06:12 AM
I agree. The magazine parodies were always my least favorite too. I also wish they would have spoofed iconic covers of these magazines. However, there is a Lost Wacky rough sketch of an unused Time magazine parody that spoofed a Man of the Year cover.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CByNjVFR/Tomb-magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CByNjVFR) (https://i.postimg.cc/qzB9t2b9/1974-c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzB9t2b9)
Actually, Tomb was finally, officially released after all these years in OLDS 5.

According to lostwackys.com (and you guys and gals can take this information with at least a shakerful of salt, as I know most of you will anyway) at least three magazines were said to have dropped from the final release: this one, Rotting Zone and Schnozmopolitan. Schnozmopolitan was, of course, officially released in three separate series (four if you count the Jay Lynch tribute series, which had an altered, modernized version). That leaves only Rotting Zone to be officially released so far and then it'll be finished (unless Topps releases all of the unmade ones somewhere along the way).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 13, 2019, 06:33:15 AM
I never really got into the magazine parodies (and still don't now) and believed they signaled the beginning of the end for Wackys.  First of all, there were too many of them at one time.  It was an onslaught.  One or two here and there might have been okay, but too many was exactly that: too many.  Secondly, they were supposed to be their own set - and should have been.  Instead Topps used a marketing ploy to get us to buy the magazine parodies by mixing them in with Wackys.  (This is similar to what they are doing to us now with WP and GPK.)  Finally, the product parodies are superior to the magazine parodies.  The product parodies looked like the products they were parodying - in terms of container shape, logos, lettering, etc..  This was a large part of what made Wackys appealing.  The only thing the magazine parodies did was mimic the cover title lettering.  Everything else was made up (as Swiski pointed out.)  They didn't even bother to parody any iconic covers.  Although it has been over forty years, I still remember how my friends and I were disillusioned - even disappointed - by the magazines.  We just couldn't elevate the magazines in stature in regard to the Wackys that came before, and they came in second place.
Hey Rob, look on the bright side.

At least they weren't like Fleer's Crazy Magazine Covers, which came out at about the same time (and which were parodied years later (very accurately, I'd say) in OLDS 1 as Crappy Magazine Covers).

Compared to those three series (actually two series, with the second one re-released with the exact same stickers as before, but this time with new stickers parodying school textbooks of that time), the Wacky Magazines were absolute masterpieces!

Believe me, there's about as much difference between the Wacky Magazines stickers and the Crazy Magazine Covers stickers as there is between a cabbage and a potato.

The only thing that I don't know about both of them is - who was imitating whom?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 15, 2019, 08:31:04 PM
Seventon and Seventeen magazines. To me, the parody cover looks like an illustration made from a photo the artist found of a similar girl in a similar outfit, but thin of course and without the food. It wasn't from a specific Seventeen cover. I checked covers from several years and didn't find a match. Perhaps an advertisement or article inside the magazine? We'll never know.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qhLKN1sS/seventon-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qhLKN1sS) (https://i.postimg.cc/XBYCd9xJ/Seventeen.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBYCd9xJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on September 15, 2019, 08:58:52 PM
Seventon and Seventeen magazines. To me, the parody cover looks like an illustration made from a photo the artist found of a similar girl in a similar outfit, but thin of course and without the food. It wasn't from a specific Seventeen cover. I checked covers from several years and didn't find a match. Perhaps an advertisement or article inside the magazine? We'll never know.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qhLKN1sS/seventon-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qhLKN1sS) (https://i.postimg.cc/XBYCd9xJ/Seventeen.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBYCd9xJ)

Agreed, This is the closest I could find but can't really make out the year so it may even be after the Wacky release. 


(https://i.postimg.cc/ppNFn68s/seventeen-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppNFn68s)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 18, 2019, 12:47:52 PM
I noticed that they updated the calories (upper right corner) on the 1982 album reprint from 50 Calories to 150 Calories...

(https://i.postimg.cc/06SffmSg/seventon-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/06SffmSg) (https://i.postimg.cc/FYdgrcDf/34-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYdgrcDf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 18, 2019, 01:26:43 PM
I noticed that they updated the calories (upper right corner) on the 1982 album reprint from 50 Calories to 150 Calories...

(https://i.postimg.cc/06SffmSg/seventon-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/06SffmSg) (https://i.postimg.cc/FYdgrcDf/34-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYdgrcDf)
Yes, they did. I take it that it's supposed to be the price of the magazine (which, I guess, was $0.50 in 1974 and $1.50 in 1982 (ah, those were the days! Where did they all go, I wonder?)).

By the way, is the 1982 Album sticker on the right supposed to be faded like that or not? Just wondering...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 18, 2019, 07:24:44 PM
Yes, they did. I take it that it's supposed to be the price of the magazine (which, I guess, was $0.50 in 1974 and $1.50 in 1982 (ah, those were the days! Where did they all go, I wonder?)).

By the way, is the 1982 Album sticker on the right supposed to be faded like that or not? Just wondering...

Not sure. Either inferior reprinting on Topps part, or someone had their scanner on the bright setting.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 19, 2019, 10:50:52 AM
Not sure. Either inferior reprinting on Topps part, or someone had their scanner on the bright setting.
Okay, I thought maybe that you had purchased it from someone who accidentally (I hope) left it exposed to sunlight or some other kind of bright light too long.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 19, 2019, 05:09:56 PM
It seems sometimes the ‘mastering’, for lack of a better word, of a particular title in a given series leaves something to be desired, and the end result is that all production copies look weak and faded.  Not sure if that happened with Seventon, but an example comes to mind where the revisiting of an OS title in a later series shows a marked improvement - ShotTissue.  The 1982 Album print is nice and sharp with saturated color, whereas the 8th OS version is a much more faded yellow.  I guess if it was never reprinted it wouldn’t be noticed, but this distinction has been present in every copy that’s come through my hands, either version.  I guess the 8th version might be closer to what the real product looks like though - those outer wrappers of the individual rolls have always been very light pastel colors.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 19, 2019, 05:11:56 PM
If I already raised this point during the 8th Series discussion, please excuse the senior moment!
 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 19, 2019, 08:16:22 PM
No worries...most of us are seniors now!

Here is the next one - National Geografink and National Geographic. Again, no matching cover. But both are dated May 1975.
Note the fancy border design on the parody doesn't match the mid 1970s cover style. The artist referenced an issue from the 1960s or older. That border design was retired in the summer of 1966.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4Y85zsNN/geografink-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Y85zsNN) (https://i.postimg.cc/5YzSdz56/National-Geographic.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YzSdz56) (https://i.postimg.cc/D8Q9qJXQ/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8Q9qJXQ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 20, 2019, 01:10:10 PM
I went to a doctor's office about 10 years ago and picked up a National Geographic because it had an article on National Parks.  As I was reading it, I kept thinking, "wow those pictures look like they're from the '60s."  I looked at the date on the magazine, and it was.  It might have been the one that you chose on the right.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 22, 2019, 06:29:07 AM
Easy Cuss-Words and Easy Crosswords. I'd love to see the exact original cover the artist based the parody on. At least I narrowed down to being a Curtis publication.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5HhP90Fr/cusswords-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HhP90Fr)(https://i.postimg.cc/XXbbQNDx/Easy-Crosswords1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXbbQNDx)(https://i.postimg.cc/7b4CGRwK/Easy-Crosswords2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 22, 2019, 05:17:41 PM
While I agree most of the magazine parodies are probably not based on actual issue covers, this one looks like it could be, or at least should be.  Who comes up with something as specific as a blue cartoony guy looking like that?  This would be interesting to research, although those crossword magazines are such recycled pulp that i’d be shocked if anyone in the universe compiled a cover history dating back 40+ years.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on September 23, 2019, 06:44:19 AM
Like most, I wasn't the biggest fan of this Magazine subseries, but I appreciate this
thread, and I had never seen "Easy Crosswords" before.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 23, 2019, 09:28:40 AM
Yeah...unlike other magazines, something like this was thrown out after completing the puzzles back in the day. Super-rare but worthless at the same time. I found other 1970s era crossword puzzle magazines on eBay.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 23, 2019, 02:10:36 PM
My grandfather always had one of these magazines on hand, especially when he drove my grandmother around on errands while she shopped, shopped, shopped (using up his retirement fund!)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 23, 2019, 02:44:26 PM
there isn't much info online about Curtis, but what is out there indicates it was an imprint of Marvel comics,
Primarily used for distribution of b&w magazine comics like Conan, Planet of the Apes, Doc Savage, Kung Fu, etc.
But  the listings I've found  (https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Magazines) show nothing along the lines of crossword or game magazines. 

this makes me wonder if Cuss-words is even based on a real item?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 23, 2019, 05:33:25 PM
I would think it is a real magazine.  I can’t speak for what was on newsstand/drugstore/candy store shelves circa 1974, but “easy” is a descriptive long in use to let puzzlers of average ability know “yes, you can handle these.” They don’t want to inadvertently choose an edition with NY Times-caliber puzzles that are basically impossible for the average puzzler to even start, let alone solve.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 24, 2019, 03:56:56 PM
I would think it is a real magazine.  I can’t speak for what was on newsstand/drugstore/candy store shelves circa 1974, but “easy” is a descriptive long in use to let puzzlers of average ability know “yes, you can handle these.” They don’t want to inadvertently choose an edition with NY Times-caliber puzzles that are basically impossible for the average puzzler to even start, let alone solve.
No doubt that there are 'Easy' books, have done some myself. From what I'm finding though, it doesn't look like there is backing evidence that Curtis publishing ever printed any.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 24, 2019, 04:02:38 PM
Curtis was not an imprint of Marvel, rather it was a distribution company. Even on regular marvel comics of that era you will see a “CC” logo. The company still exists today. Whether that style of Curtis logo was specific to Marvel magazines I’m not sure.

http://www.curtiscirc.com/1_about/index.html

(https://i.postimg.cc/y8CkpT8X/AEB96-E3-E-9246-4-A86-A508-73766-CD3-C3-D2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 24, 2019, 04:10:20 PM
This explains the relationship between Curtis Circulation and Marvel (or parent company Magazine Management Co.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Circulation
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 24, 2019, 05:14:02 PM
This explains the relationship between Curtis Circulation and Marvel (or parent company Magazine Management Co.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Circulation
there also seems to be Curtis Magazines, which used the logo on the Wacky - with this site indicating it was an imprint of Marvel back in the day
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Magazines
perhaps a case of the logo of the publishing arm of the distributor of Marvel being confused for an imprint line

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qYDtM0L/Screen-Shot-2019-09-24-at-7-08-01-PM.png)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 24, 2019, 05:37:20 PM
there also seems to be Curtis Magazines, which used the logo on the Wacky - with this site indicating it was an imprint of Marvel back in the day
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Magazines
perhaps a case of the logo of the publishing arm of the distributor of Marvel being confused for an imprint line

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qYDtM0L/Screen-Shot-2019-09-24-at-7-08-01-PM.png)

The Wiki article makes it pretty clear that Marvel had no affiliation with the publishing portion of Curtis, that only Curtis Circulation was sold to Perfect/Cadence. It’s possible Marvel did not want the Magazines to carry the Marvel banner (as the content was more adult and not subject to the comics code), and so just used the usual Curtis banner more prominently. Who knows.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 24, 2019, 05:51:23 PM
More info....

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJZL3yr8/526524-F3-2791-44-AD-9-E36-ABFBCA5755-D3.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 25, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
Family Circuit and Family Circle - the parody May 1975 cover compared to the actual May 1975 cover. I also included the reprint, where the cover date was changed to May 1982. NOTE: Someone asked on an earlier magazine sticker vintage-reprint comparison if the color quality was different like that on my stickers. I actually Googled these parody images, so the coloring between the stickers could be different due to that person's scanner settings.

(https://i.postimg.cc/WdBz6WN8/familycircuit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdBz6WN8) (https://i.postimg.cc/CnxxL97h/89-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CnxxL97h) (https://i.postimg.cc/56G2b7CJ/Family-Circle.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56G2b7CJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 25, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
Definitely one of the better magazine parodies IMO.  A bunch of Wacky characters thrown in plus all the electricity gags.  “Current events”, cute.  Always a very ubiquitous magazine in supermarkets, waiting rooms, Mom’s stash, etc.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 27, 2019, 07:44:19 PM
TV Guide and TV Garbage, along with the reprint sticker with different TV show titles on the cover...

(https://i.postimg.cc/RWg7703x/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWg7703x)(https://i.postimg.cc/k6bWPFT7/tvgarbage-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6bWPFT7)(https://i.postimg.cc/75Z7ZyKs/90-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75Z7ZyKs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 01, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
61 compared to 16...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4n4vDCPJ/61-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4n4vDCPJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/GB1Gz69n/16-Magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GB1Gz69n)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on October 02, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
61 compared to 16...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4n4vDCPJ/61-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4n4vDCPJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/GB1Gz69n/16-Magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GB1Gz69n)
The real magazine almost looks like a parody itself!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 08, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
Next up - Mud vs Mad. Reprint included to show price inflation on cover

(https://i.postimg.cc/mzV11jQV/mud-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzV11jQV)(https://i.postimg.cc/TLPYF6Dq/32-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLPYF6Dq) (https://i.postimg.cc/3W43v9CR/Mad-Magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3W43v9CR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on October 09, 2019, 05:21:45 AM
Next up - Mud vs Mad. Reprint included to show price inflation on cover

(https://i.postimg.cc/mzV11jQV/mud-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzV11jQV)(https://i.postimg.cc/TLPYF6Dq/32-B-front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLPYF6Dq) (https://i.postimg.cc/3W43v9CR/Mad-Magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3W43v9CR)

Always a favorite of mine. I subscribed to MAD when I was a young teen and was happy to see this one when it was released. I have to confess I am missing the joke, however, with the "No. 3XK6  Out"  in the upper left corner. The Alfred pig Neuman is spot on.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 09, 2019, 02:38:28 PM
Although I wasn't fond of the magazine parodies, this one is rather good.  It definitely helps to have something iconic and spot-on like Alfred E. Neuman to parody.  I think this helps lift this magazine parody above most of the others.  And good question.  What does "No. 3XK6  Out" mean?  Three strikes?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 09, 2019, 02:41:09 PM
Mud is one of the few magazine Wackys that I like.  Not only is the gag good and close to the real title, it's hard not to like Alfred E. Neuman as a pig.  It could almost have been something Mad would have done themselves!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 12, 2019, 09:51:29 AM
Mud is a very different one to me.  Has an almost surreal quality, can’t quite put my finger on it.  I guess it’s because I have a history with MAD, and the parody doesn’t quite match up with anything I’ve seen.  I do like the umbrella cover for matching color scheme though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 14, 2019, 08:47:23 PM
Sleepy and Creepy magazines...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hXNbsfC7/sleepy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXNbsfC7)(https://i.postimg.cc/CBgCy9ph/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBgCy9ph)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 15, 2019, 02:57:15 AM
Sleepy is a good gag, and the tag lines fit in well.  And, it has a monster.  What more could a Wacky need?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 16, 2019, 05:53:18 PM
So cool that they spoofed not just one, but three of the Warren horror magazine titles.  I remember first discovering these in a neighborhood comic shop, and I was immediately intrigued.

Based on this, it’s too bad WPs didn’t venture into spoofing Bronze Age comic book titles.  That would have allowed for full set of 30 all-magazine titles with ease.  I never counted - how many total were sprinkled among Series 11 and 13-15?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 16, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
So cool that they spoofed not just one, but three of the Warren horror magazine titles.  I remember first discovering these in a neighborhood comic shop, and I was immediately intrigued.

Based on this, it’s too bad WPs didn’t venture into spoofing Bronze Age comic book titles.  That would have allowed for full set of 30 all-magazine titles with ease.  I never counted - how many total were sprinkled among Series 11 and 13-15?
I checked it out in both the '74 Wacky Magazines and the Lost Wackys sections (the latter has one parody that's missing from the former in the category Jay Lynch 1970's Unproduced Rough Art: Black & White) of lostwackys.com. According to Duane, 38 1970s magazine parodies were known to have been made for the planned 1974 Wacky Magazines series and are known to exist (I'm including Famous Mobsters of Frightland here; Duane, however, doesn't for unknown reasons), 23 were finally released (nine in the 11th Series, seven in the 13th, six in the 14th and one in the 15th), 15 were never released and out of those 15, three were possibly intended for the 11th Series (Tomb, Rotting Zone and Schnozmopolitan) but instead were pulled. That makes a possible total of 26 out of 38 known total 1970s magazine parodies that might've been used for this planned series.

Of course, years later, Schnozmopolitan was officially released as a sticker three times (four if you count the altered modernized version from the Jay Lynch tribute series) and Tomb only once. Of the three pulled 1970s magazine parodies, only Rotting Zone remains unreleased (come on Topps, put it in a future 1970s OLDS series like you did with Tomb...you know you want to!).

If you look at Reply #1735 on pg. 50 of this subforum (9-12-19), you'll see the names of the 12 out of 15 1970s magazine parodies known to have been made that weren't released at all - and, in fact, were possibly never ever considered for release in the first place. All of them are only roughs done either in black and white or color, however. According to Duane again, it's possible that the 1974 Wacky Magazines series might've had 30 titles total in it if it had been made (which, of course, it wasn't). That means that, out of all the 12 unreleased 1970s magazine parodies named on page 50, any of them could've been the remaining four on the planned final list. I guess we'll never know in this case.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2019, 03:38:17 PM
We're out of the magazine spoofs for the time being. Next up on the 11th series checklist...Planet of the Grapes and Planet of the Apes trading cards

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6b4zYWw/planetgrapes-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6b4zYWw)(https://i.postimg.cc/9wRVXB9K/Planet-of-the-Apes.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9wRVXB9K)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 19, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Were out of the magazine spoofs for the time being. Next up on the 11th series checklist...Planet of the Grapes and Planet of the Apes trading cards

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6b4zYWw/planetgrapes-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6b4zYWw)(https://i.postimg.cc/9wRVXB9K/Planet-of-the-Apes.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9wRVXB9K)

This is a really good gag, and it really captures the pack.  Might be my favorite in the series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on October 19, 2019, 04:18:52 PM
The funniest thing about it by far is the “Trees” Topps logo.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 24, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
Moron Chicken Dinner and Morton Chicken Dinner...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRXfVFxW/moron-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRXfVFxW)(https://i.postimg.cc/nMBPpVKv/Morton-Chicken-Dinner.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMBPpVKv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 25, 2019, 03:45:32 AM
Moron Chicken Dinner and Morton Chicken Dinner...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRXfVFxW/moron-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRXfVFxW)(https://i.postimg.cc/nMBPpVKv/Morton-Chicken-Dinner.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMBPpVKv)

Good gag, OK tag lines, but the packaging, especially the aluminum foil tray, is fantastic!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 29, 2019, 09:25:32 PM
Bird Brain and Birds Eye Dinners...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ct7TJZPd/burnedleftovers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ct7TJZPd)(https://i.postimg.cc/8sLZ4Bcx/Birds-Eye-Bavarian-Beans.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sLZ4Bcx)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 31, 2019, 05:51:41 PM
For some reason most parodies of freezer-case products seem to be really good - Sara Lee, Morton, Birdseye, Mrs. Paul’s, etc.  Even in the ANS - ‘Bird Eyes’ is awesome.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 08, 2019, 06:42:00 PM
With the recent Halloween release by Neil and Dave's Old School 8, this thread took a back seat to all the exciting news.

Back on track, here is Chimpanzee and Champion spark plugs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/SnH5QNYs/chimpanzee-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnH5QNYs)(https://i.postimg.cc/FftW5Wwk/Champion3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FftW5Wwk)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 13, 2019, 06:44:27 PM
The Chimpanzee-Champion comparison didn't "spark" :] any interest, so here's the next one...

Decay compared to....nothing?

Here is what the Lost Wackys website says about it:

"According to Len Brown, the creator of Decay, this wacky was not based on any actual product.  However, I found that Dacco Toothpaste (only available in Asia and Europe) was the number 1 selling brand in Vietnam during the wacky era.  No doubt that many G.I.'s brought some home after the war, and perhaps Len encountered a tube or two before writing the Decay gag."

(https://i.postimg.cc/2V2DWq2Q/decay-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2V2DWq2Q)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 13, 2019, 07:02:43 PM
With the recent Halloween release by Neil and Dave's Old School 8, this thread took a back seat to all the exciting news.

Back on track, here is Chimpanzee and Champion spark plugs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/SnH5QNYs/chimpanzee-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnH5QNYs)(https://i.postimg.cc/FftW5Wwk/Champion3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FftW5Wwk)

I guess most of our then-juvenile minds had little knowledge or familiarity with spark plugs or auto parts products in general, hence the lack of reaction to this parody, but looking at it now I think they did a nice job with this one.  Any kind of ape character is usually a winner too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 14, 2019, 01:11:55 AM
I missed commenting on Chimpanzee because I was focused on Old School  :P

I think it's a great gag with a funny tag line that fits in, and they really nailed the packaging.  The plug itself is fantastic!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on November 14, 2019, 08:53:42 AM
I missed commenting on Chimpanzee because I was focused on Old School  :P

I think it's a great gag with a funny tag line that fits in, and they really nailed the packaging.  The plug itself is fantastic!

I have always like this one two but wished the top of the spark plug had been a banana.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 22, 2019, 08:00:37 PM
The Chimpanzee-Champion comparison didn't "spark" :] any interest, so here's the next one...

Decay compared to....nothing?

Here is what the Lost Wackys website says about it:

"According to Len Brown, the creator of Decay, this wacky was not based on any actual product.  However, I found that Dacco Toothpaste (only available in Asia and Europe) was the number 1 selling brand in Vietnam during the wacky era.  No doubt that many G.I.'s brought some home after the war, and perhaps Len encountered a tube or two before writing the Decay gag."

(https://i.postimg.cc/2V2DWq2Q/decay-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2V2DWq2Q)

Nobody has any more information on the Decay parody?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 22, 2019, 08:02:20 PM
I was really looking forward to this one!! Can you guess why? LOL

Swiss Fright and Swiss Knight...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QFJ5G05/swissfright-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QFJ5G05)(https://i.postimg.cc/21xDxnzt/Swiss-Knight.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21xDxnzt)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on November 23, 2019, 12:48:20 PM
Good gag all around!  Everything ties together nicely!

Around the holidays, my parents used to buy Swiss Knight and a cheese spread made by Kraft (that came in a small jar that one could later wash out and use as a small juice glass.  Now that I consider it, I cannot think of any product that comes in a jar that also doubles as a drinking glass.  At one time, or so it seems, they used to be rather common.  For that matter, they no longer distribute collectible glasses at fast food chains, either.  At least not to my knowledge.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 29, 2019, 07:05:33 AM
Yes, I remember seeing those spreadable cheeses around the holidays a lot.  Sometimes in small jars or tubs, sometimes rolled in balls coated in chopped nuts, etc.  I always pondered the type marbled with red color - was that cherry flavor?  How does that work as a cheese flavor?  Can’t say I ever tasted one.  I also remember looking at those edible gift baskets in mail order catalogs, the ones with crackers, salami, canned spreads, fruits, etc.  The soft cheeses would often be part of those.

As for Swiss Fright, another example of great foil detail work.  Has that same illuminated effect as another recent title we talked about (Hairy Lee?).

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on November 29, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
I always pondered the type marbled with red color - was that cherry flavor?
LOL. It's port wine flavoring.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 29, 2019, 10:35:31 AM
LOL. It's port wine flavoring.
Further proof of my ignorance in the world of spreadable cheeses!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on November 29, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
I was really looking forward to this one!! Can you guess why? LOL

Swiss Fright and Swiss Knight...

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QFJ5G05/swissfright-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QFJ5G05)(https://i.postimg.cc/21xDxnzt/Swiss-Knight.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21xDxnzt)

I always thought this was a solid Wacky - good gag with funny matching taglines, and well rendered packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 05, 2019, 09:11:47 PM
Muler's Dregg Noodles and Mueller's Egg Noodles. The thin red and thick blue stripes have been consistent for years, even as the logo and packaging design changed.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7bcW49Jy/mulers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bcW49Jy)(https://i.postimg.cc/S2RgFYys/Mueller-s1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2RgFYys)(https://i.postimg.cc/MfjtXkfJ/Mueller-s2.png) (https://postimg.cc/MfjtXkfJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/jw1Zsq5h/Mueller-s4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jw1Zsq5h)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on December 06, 2019, 09:04:35 AM
Muler's Dregg Noodles and Mueller's Egg Noodles. The thin red and thick blue stripes have been consistent for years, even as the logo and packaging design changed.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7bcW49Jy/mulers-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bcW49Jy)(https://i.postimg.cc/S2RgFYys/Mueller-s1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2RgFYys)(https://i.postimg.cc/MfjtXkfJ/Mueller-s2.png) (https://postimg.cc/MfjtXkfJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/jw1Zsq5h/Mueller-s4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jw1Zsq5h)
I never got this one as a kid.  Was not familiar with the product so I had no idea what "dregg" meant.  I do like the donkey though!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 06, 2019, 10:37:09 AM
I never got this one as a kid.  Was not familiar with the product so I had no idea what "dregg" meant.  I do like the donkey though!

I looked up dregg and the word doesn't exist. However the word dregs exists, meaning "the most worthless part of something" (ex. the dregs of society)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on December 07, 2019, 09:41:07 AM
I like how the donkey is kicking and tearing apart the cellophane window.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on December 07, 2019, 10:41:44 AM
I like how the donkey is kicking and tearing apart the cellophane window.
Actually, Rob, that's a mule. Fits in with the joke.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 07, 2019, 11:06:16 AM
Actually, Rob, that's a mule. Fits in with the joke.
the 'noodles for donkeys' joke?  >(
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on December 07, 2019, 11:30:11 AM
the 'noodles for donkeys' joke?  >(
Ah, good eyes! I didn't even notice it.

Btw, I meant the company name joke.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on December 10, 2019, 09:28:45 AM
Ah, good eyes! I didn't even notice it.

Btw, I meant the company name joke.
Great point about the name "Muler's" and the Donkey tag-line.  Got me wondering:

https://animals.mom.me/difference-between-mules-donkeys-7249.html
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: g.u.e.s.t. on December 10, 2019, 02:45:29 PM
Great point about the name "Muler's" and the Donkey tag-line.  Got me wondering:

https://animals.mom.me/difference-between-mules-donkeys-7249.html

Ha, without sounding like a jackass, I wondered the same thing. :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 13, 2019, 06:59:31 AM
King O'Scare and King Oscar Sardines compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/569jTB3M/kingoscare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/569jTB3M)(https://i.postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy/King-Oscar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 21, 2019, 07:56:56 AM
King O'Scare and King Oscar Sardines compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/569jTB3M/kingoscare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/569jTB3M)(https://i.postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy/King-Oscar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy)
Decent Wacky, nice vintage look.  I’m sure I had no idea about sardine brands back in the day though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 21, 2019, 08:31:53 AM
King O'Scare and King Oscar Sardines compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/569jTB3M/kingoscare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/569jTB3M)(https://i.postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy/King-Oscar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQtgyrqy)

I had no idea on this specific packaging, but the gag and character were enough to make me smile.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 21, 2019, 10:31:31 AM
had no idea about the brand as a kid, but it is a nice looking one.
I like how the crowns have been mimicked by replacing them with the open hands
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 24, 2019, 05:17:18 AM
This holiday season, "warm up" with a cup of Chaffed & Sunburn coffee! Otherwise, have a cup of the mild blend, Chase & Sanborn coffee.

Have a great Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and whatever else you may want to celebrate at year's end!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d/chaffed-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d)(https://i.postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W/Chase-Sanborn.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 01, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Happy 2020! Next in line is Slip Slop Mr. Bog Wet Bread compared to Tip Top Mr. Big White Bread...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpY0S05q/mrbog-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpY0S05q)(https://i.postimg.cc/WdQRkFHq/Tip-Top-Bread1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdQRkFHq)(https://i.postimg.cc/Tymzqdz7/Tip-Top-Bread2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tymzqdz7)(https://i.postimg.cc/Q93R6LsX/Tip-Top-Bread3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q93R6LsX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 01, 2020, 02:00:15 PM
This holiday season, "warm up" with a cup of Chaffed & Sunburn coffee! Otherwise, have a cup of the mild blend, Chase & Sanborn coffee.

Have a great Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and whatever else you may want to celebrate at year's end!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d/chaffed-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d)(https://i.postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W/Chase-Sanborn.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W)

I never knew this brand, but I think the gag might have been better as Chaffed and Sunburned.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 01, 2020, 05:38:50 PM
Happy 2020! Next in line is Slip Slop Mr. Bog Wet Bread compared to Tip Top Mr. Big White Bread...

So so.  I think the gag might have been better with a slimy fish or frog in the bag.  Until now, I never knew what bread this was parodying.  I don't recall ever seeing Mr. Big bread anywhere.  I wonder if it was regional, say for example, the midwest?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 01, 2020, 06:06:37 PM
I never knew this brand, but I think the gag might have been better as Chaffed and Sunburned.
Or ‘Chafe and Sunburn’, if one wants to be close as possible to the real product name.

I’ve also never seen this brand until recent years, but I’ve always been fond of all the coffee Wackys, especially those in cans.  Those ribbed cans give the artist (Saunders on all of them I imagine) a good opportunity to show his skills, as do many of the products in glass bottles.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 02, 2020, 12:36:03 AM
Happy 2020! Next in line is Slip Slop Mr. Bog Wet Bread compared to Tip Top Mr. Big White Bread...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XpY0S05q/mrbog-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpY0S05q)(https://i.postimg.cc/WdQRkFHq/Tip-Top-Bread1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdQRkFHq)(https://i.postimg.cc/Tymzqdz7/Tip-Top-Bread2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tymzqdz7)(https://i.postimg.cc/Q93R6LsX/Tip-Top-Bread3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q93R6LsX)

Another brand I never heard of, but a good gag with fitting taglines.  The package and bread slices are very well done, and I like the sad character holding the wet bread.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 02, 2020, 07:15:31 AM
I never knew this brand, but I think the gag might have been better as Chaffed and Sunburned.

I was not familiar with this brand either. I was the guy sent down to pick up bread and milk from our local store when needed and had not seen this brand. Perhaps a regional item not available in our area. We did have Colonial, Wonder, Bunny others.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 02, 2020, 07:18:10 AM
This holiday season, "warm up" with a cup of Chaffed & Sunburn coffee! Otherwise, have a cup of the mild blend, Chase & Sanborn coffee.

Have a great Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and whatever else you may want to celebrate at year's end!!

(https://i.postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d/chaffed-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhXQ1q4d)(https://i.postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W/Chase-Sanborn.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCmk4B6W)

This reminded me of the old Scout skit where someone runs on interrupting the emcee, and when asked who they are says I'm Sanborn as he runs away. A few seconds later, another person runs on, again interrupting the emcee, and when questioned announces he is chasing Sanborn. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 08, 2020, 05:03:02 AM
Obviously Gulp oil is a parody of Gulf oil, but I haven't been able to find a photo of a vintage white can with just the logo.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV/gulp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV)(https://i.postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2/img.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 08, 2020, 07:33:36 PM
Obviously Gulp oil is a parody of Gulf oil, but I haven't been able to find a photo of a vintage white can with just the logo.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV/gulp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV)(https://i.postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2/img.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2)
Not to get ahead of ourselves, but this observation is the exact opposite of what I see with the Shell Oil parody in Series 15; that is, in that case, the parody is a sort of unrecognizable specialty type of oil, as opposed to a more common Shell product that would feature the seashell logo and red and yellow colors more prominently.  So in that respect I think they did better with Gulp in Series 11.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 09, 2020, 12:57:54 AM
Obviously Gulp oil is a parody of Gulf oil, but I haven't been able to find a photo of a vintage white can with just the logo.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV/gulp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYnFcXzV)(https://i.postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2/img.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4R5FpP2)

I like the gag, but always kind of thought the tagline about car engines didn't really go with the sight gag of the character drinking the oil.  Great character though, and another nice can lid.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 09, 2020, 08:15:21 AM
This is also the one pictured in the Wikipedia article on Wackys.

Never understood that one myself. If I'd have written the article, I'd have put in Wormy Packages, not Gulp Oil.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 10, 2020, 09:16:19 PM
Progreaso Raw Clammy Sauce and Progresso Red Clam Sauce. Not an exact product match, but the same label design, followed by a modern day Red Clam Sauce label

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT/progreason-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT)(https://i.postimg.cc/t72RcyzF/Progresso2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72RcyzF)(https://i.postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ/Progresso3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 11, 2020, 07:29:53 AM
This is also the one pictured in the Wikipedia article on Wackys.

Never understood that one myself. I'd have put in Wormy Packages.

I'd have put in Pupsi (which I think is a bit more iconic and well known) along with a side-by-side comparison of the original product like the way Swiski does here.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on January 11, 2020, 07:33:04 AM
Progreaso Raw Clammy Sauce and Progresso Red Clam Sauce. Not an exact product match, but the same label design, followed by a modern day Red Clam Sauce label

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT/progreason-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT)(https://i.postimg.cc/t72RcyzF/Progresso2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72RcyzF)(https://i.postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ/Progresso3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ)

Kind of reminds me of the John Lennon spaghetti scene from Magical Mystery Tour.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CByTMscq/20170926-194844.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CByTMscq)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 11, 2020, 08:00:29 AM
Progreaso Raw Clammy Sauce and Progresso Red Clam Sauce. Not an exact product match, but the same label design, followed by a modern day Red Clam Sauce label

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT/progreason-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtpDPRzT)(https://i.postimg.cc/t72RcyzF/Progresso2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72RcyzF)(https://i.postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ/Progresso3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKTcQwRJ)

I think this is a really good gag, with funny matching taglines.  The artwork and characters are great - check out the shadows by the guy's arms and water glass!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 13, 2020, 04:49:17 AM
Saparin and Savarin coffees compared.

FACT: the guy on the vintage packaging and TV commercials was played by Carlos Montalban, the brother of Ricardo Montalban.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBt78nDW/saparin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBt78nDW)(https://i.postimg.cc/fSCmfx8g/Savarin1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSCmfx8g)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 13, 2020, 01:54:28 PM
Saparin and Savarin coffees compared.

FACT: the guy on the vintage packaging and TV commercials was played by Carlos Montalban, the brother of Ricardo Montalban.


To the last I decaffeinate with thee. From hell's heart I stir at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last drop at thee
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 17, 2020, 10:20:50 AM
Stinkertoy and Tinkertoy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MXXhyV3N/stinkertoy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXXhyV3N)(https://i.postimg.cc/yWsYyQCx/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yWsYyQCx)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 17, 2020, 11:25:12 AM
Saparin and Savarin coffees compared.

FACT: the guy on the vintage packaging and TV commercials was played by Carlos Montalban, the brother of Ricardo Montalban.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBt78nDW/saparin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBt78nDW)(https://i.postimg.cc/fSCmfx8g/Savarin1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSCmfx8g)

Not one of my favorite gags, but the taglines are decent, and the glass jar is a beautiful thing to behold!  And I like the goofy character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 17, 2020, 11:32:46 AM
Stinkertoy and Tinkertoy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MXXhyV3N/stinkertoy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXXhyV3N)(https://i.postimg.cc/yWsYyQCx/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yWsYyQCx)

I always liked this one because of how colorful and detailed it is.  The character is great, but doesn't look college aged, so that doesn't seem to go with the "college graduate" tagline. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 17, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
Not one of my favorite gags, but the taglines are decent, and the glass jar is a beautiful thing to behold!  And I like the goofy character.
I like this one for the same reasons that make Spills Bros. an all-time fave - great detail on the container and great embellishment of an odd character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 17, 2020, 06:29:36 PM
I always liked this one because of how colorful and detailed it is.  The character is great, but doesn't look college aged, so that doesn't seem to go with the "college graduate" tagline.
I always assumed they were trying to convey the idea of the underaged genius - PhD by the age of 12 or something like that.  Could be wrong, but that’s always how I saw it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 19, 2020, 06:31:27 AM
Love your comments, everyone! Moving along...Fib and Fab, along with the earlier Chicken Fat and Fab for comparison.
NOTE: On my original post for the 2nd Series Fab and Chicken Fat comparisons, I didn't have an exact package match, and still can't locate one to this day. However, I discovered the matching box design, which is a parody cover in itself from a 1966 Andy Warhol art magazine.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cn87vSH5/fib-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cn87vSH5)(https://i.postimg.cc/sB0JsvT1/Fab.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sB0JsvT1)(https://i.postimg.cc/c6r97FF5/chickenfat-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6r97FF5)(https://i.postimg.cc/21h81Fp1/711838.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21h81Fp1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 19, 2020, 09:45:48 AM
I find this one a far superior parody of Fab than the Chicken Fat from Series 2.  A little more detail going on, looks more like a real package, and of course the classic Saunders characters.  I have to say this thread is really increasing my appreciation of the 11th Series, which I had pretty much overlooked due to the lack of exposure as a kid - definitely a series I missed completely.

Getting back to Chicken Fat for a minute - not sure if this has ever been discussed before (knowing my memory I’m guessing it has), but I really feel the 2nd Series titles repeated from the 1969 Ads would have been much better if they were redrawn and repainted for the 2nd Series, at least the products in boxes.  Because of their relatively tiny size as a small fraction of the Ads art, they lacked the detail typically seen in OS Wackys, along the top and side panels of the boxes.  Capn Crud, All-Brain, and Awful Bits come to mind.  They’re still great of course, but could have looked even better.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Crazy Zoo Keeper on January 20, 2020, 01:37:48 PM
Getting back to Chicken Fat for a minute - not sure if this has ever been discussed before (knowing my memory I’m guessing it has), but I really feel the 2nd Series titles repeated from the 1969 Ads would have been much better if they were redrawn and repainted for the 2nd Series, at least the products in boxes.  Because of their relatively tiny size as a small fraction of the Ads art, they lacked the detail typically seen in OS Wackys, along the top and side panels of the boxes.  Capn Crud, All-Brain, and Awful Bits come to mind.  They’re still great of course, but could have looked even better.
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They were.  The ads were painted by Sutton and redone by Saunders for Series 2.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 20, 2020, 03:59:51 PM
Getting back to Chicken Fat for a minute - not sure if this has ever been discussed before (knowing my memory I’m guessing it has), but I really feel the 2nd Series titles repeated from the 1969 Ads would have been much better if they were redrawn and repainted for the 2nd Series, at least the products in boxes.  Because of their relatively tiny size as a small fraction of the Ads art, they lacked the detail typically seen in OS Wackys, along the top and side panels of the boxes.  Capn Crud, All-Brain, and Awful Bits come to mind.  They’re still great of course, but could have looked even better.


They were.  The ads were painted by Sutton and redone by Saunders for Series 2.
Maybe so, but the top and side panels were left essentially blank as before.  Just sayin.’
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 23, 2020, 06:49:03 PM
Comit and Comet, with the earlier Commie parody for additional comparison.

NOTE: I added the Chicken Fat parody image to my previous comparisons of Fib and Fab

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG/comit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG)(https://i.postimg.cc/47TfvKgW/commie-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47TfvKgW)(https://i.postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz/Comet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 24, 2020, 05:58:37 PM
Comit and Comet, with the earlier Commie parody for additional comparison.

NOTE: I added the Chicken Fat parody image to my previous comparisons of Fib and Fab

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG/comit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG)(https://i.postimg.cc/47TfvKgW/commie-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47TfvKgW)(https://i.postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz/Comet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz)
Interesting to notice the slight changes in font and the thickness of the outer gold band bordering the red oval.  These cans don’t look like they’re more than a few years apart in age.  The Wackys seem to capture these slight changes accurately.  No strong preference of one over the other in terms of eye appeal, both good but unspectacular titles.  I guess I’d give Commie the slight edge for its early-series nostalgia value.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 28, 2020, 08:21:02 PM
Bash and Dash...

(https://i.postimg.cc/sGrJcBJp/bash-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGrJcBJp)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDdyvC0r/Dash1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDdyvC0r)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 29, 2020, 03:06:51 AM
Comit and Comet, with the earlier Commie parody for additional comparison.

NOTE: I added the Chicken Fat parody image to my previous comparisons of Fib and Fab

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG/comit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGnY2xKG)(https://i.postimg.cc/47TfvKgW/commie-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47TfvKgW)(https://i.postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz/Comet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnCqxcvz)

Not one of my favorites - even as a kid, I knew that the word was "Commit."   But the art is nice, and the gag isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 29, 2020, 03:14:01 AM
Bash and Dash...

(https://i.postimg.cc/sGrJcBJp/bash-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGrJcBJp)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDdyvC0r/Dash1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDdyvC0r)

Not a bad gag, and the boring packaging is well replicated and enhanced with the funny character.  For me, a less memorable but decent Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 29, 2020, 07:16:46 PM
Not one of my favorites - even as a kid, I knew that the word was "Commit."   But the art is nice, and the gag isn't too bad.
That misspelling could have been avoided, and possibly a much funnier Wacky could have resulted, if they had gone with ‘Vomit’ instead.  But I’m not sure if Topps would have been willing to go there during the OS era.  Too gross-out maybe? 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 03, 2020, 04:42:24 AM
Alpain and Alpen. I understand why they changed the background of the box to brown instead of black (dark brown?) due to the die-cut black border. But they parodied black boxed products before. Irish Spring?

(https://i.postimg.cc/cKzMQjJk/alpain-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKzMQjJk)(https://i.postimg.cc/2VP17DdZ/Alpen1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VP17DdZ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 04, 2020, 12:46:57 PM
Alpain and Alpen. I understand why they changed the background of the box to brown instead of black (dark brown?) due to the die-cut black border. But they parodied black boxed products before. Irish Spring?

(https://i.postimg.cc/cKzMQjJk/alpain-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKzMQjJk)(https://i.postimg.cc/2VP17DdZ/Alpen1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VP17DdZ)

Never really got this one.  The characters are well rendered, but if it is for "nuts" why is there someone in what looks like a military uniform force feeding the cereal into the other guy?  And, what's with the Cap'n Crud type pirate hat?  Finally, there is something odd about the way the art wraps around the box - can't really see a bend, and it looks like they just drew a line through it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 04, 2020, 01:03:27 PM
Never really got this one.  The characters are well rendered, but if it is for "nuts" why is there someone in what looks like a military uniform force feeding the cereal into the other guy?  And, what's with the Cap'n Crud type pirate hat?  Finally, there is something odd about the way the art wraps around the box - can't really see a bend, and it looks like they just drew a line through it.

Something disturbing about how a mentally ill man is treated here, almost tortured! Similar to real life when back in the early 1970s institutions and mental hospitals were more like prisons, and people admitted their family "misfits" in places like that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on February 04, 2020, 02:00:54 PM
Never really got this one.  The characters are well rendered, but if it is for "nuts" why is there someone in what looks like a military uniform force feeding the cereal into the other guy?  And, what's with the Cap'n Crud type pirate hat?  Finally, there is something odd about the way the art wraps around the box - can't really see a bend, and it looks like they just drew a line through it.
The man with the hat was based on the tired old joke about the insane person who thinks he's Napoleon (hence the "N" on the hat).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 04, 2020, 03:23:04 PM
"Napoleon Crossing the Alps" by Jacques Louis David

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtJvWS4x/David-Napoleon-crossing-the-Alps-Malmaison2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtJvWS4x)

Notice the mountains beyond the barred window (in the Alpain Wacky.)  I would assume they are the snow-covered Alps (to match the Matterhorn featured on the back of the real product box.)  I would also assume the man wearing green is an orderly in a mental hospital.

Something disturbing about how a mentally ill man is treated here, almost tortured! Similar to real life when back in the early 1970s institutions and mental hospitals were more like prisons, and people admitted their family "misfits" in places like that.

He is being tortured.  That's to make the whole thing go along with the Alpain name.  Something has to be painful, otherwise the Alpain name wouldn't make any sense and fit with all of the insanity taglines.

Incidentally, I used to eat this cereal when I was younger.  I remember liking it, but I didn't get it that often because it was more expensive than other cereals.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ToadallyDude on February 04, 2020, 05:56:10 PM
I wonder if the "N" was really meant to be Napoleon... or if it was yet another one of Saunder's mystery signatures, meaning "Norm".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on February 06, 2020, 08:13:29 PM
I wonder if the "N" was really meant to be Napoleon... or if it was yet another one of Saunder's mystery signatures, meaning "Norm".
You know, I never would've thought of that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 06, 2020, 09:26:51 PM
Never really got this one.  The characters are well rendered, but if it is for "nuts" why is there someone in what looks like a military uniform force feeding the cereal into the other guy?  And, what's with the Cap'n Crud type pirate hat?  Finally, there is something odd about the way the art wraps around the box - can't really see a bend, and it looks like they just drew a line through it.

It’s  a crazy person who has a delusion of being Napoleon...

https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2764/napoleon-complex/
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on February 07, 2020, 12:09:11 AM
What I said.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 07, 2020, 07:28:11 AM
What I said.

Yes, I didn’t read the whole thread.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 08, 2020, 01:40:49 PM
Cult 45 and Colt 45. Simple but effective parody. I almost wish they would have gone further using a tagline such as "It took 45 magic potions to finally get the formula right" The witch illustration could have had a cauldron instead of a cup, and maybe an old book with pages ripped out to explain the frustration of getting the formula perfected.

Another thing they could have done is have a green witch resembling a melting wicked witch of the west a la Wizard of Oz. Above the Cult 45 logo, there could be leading copy saying "Eliminate your witch with..." Then instead of Malt Liquor, it would be Melt Liquor.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NKQ5MPG0/cult45-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKQ5MPG0)(https://i.postimg.cc/XXcZbb3P/Colt-45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXcZbb3P)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on February 09, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
Ah, my old avatar - Cult 45. Many fond memories! I do wish the witch was a bit larger . . .

           (https://i.imgur.com/M8alg5K.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: ToadallyDude on February 10, 2020, 03:05:48 PM
Fred Sanford was funny as hell.  But you can't beat Lando for advertising the brand.  ...although Redd Foxx running a spaceship salvage yard & blasting stormtroopers while stumbling and clutching his heart might be hilarious. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on February 10, 2020, 03:44:06 PM
Never really got this one.  The characters are well rendered, but if it is for "nuts" why is there someone in what looks like a military uniform force feeding the cereal into the other guy?  And, what's with the Cap'n Crud type pirate hat?  Finally, there is something odd about the way the art wraps around the box - can't really see a bend, and it looks like they just drew a line through it.

I always thought the guard could have been Mr. Mean's brother!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 13, 2020, 08:16:43 AM
Finishing up the 11th series - Dizzie Cups and Dixie Cups

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNYY3YR7/dizzle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNYY3YR7)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVK6x3st/Dixie.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVK6x3st)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 19, 2020, 04:40:40 AM
Onto the 12 series!

First on the checklist is Toad vs. Tide, along with the original Tied parody. The 1970s packaging design is very close in design to the 1960s with the exception of the brighter orange and squared sans-serif title font.

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJ9PMs8c/toad-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJ9PMs8c)(https://i.postimg.cc/JH3SMj73/Tide.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JH3SMj73)(https://i.postimg.cc/YvtMGqJq/tied-26-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvtMGqJq)(https://i.postimg.cc/V51JBmyp/Tide.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V51JBmyp)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 19, 2020, 09:56:07 AM
Gags are good and mesh together, but get confusing between the frogs vs. toads.  The toad/frog is a good character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 19, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
Finishing up the 11th series - Dizzie Cups and Dixie Cups

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNYY3YR7/dizzle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNYY3YR7)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVK6x3st/Dixie.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVK6x3st)

I like this Wacky - it is silly, as Wackys should be.  The box is instantly recognizable, there's a well painted character, and the gag and taglines are good and go well together.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 19, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Gags are good and mesh together, but get confusing between the frogs vs. toads.  The toad/frog is a good character.

The frog vs. toad is a disconnect.  For me, Tied wins, hands down.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 19, 2020, 12:17:07 PM
The frog vs. toad is a disconnect.  For me, Tied wins, hands down.
I agree. The parody uses the "toad" or "frog" references too much. Maybe get rid of the word "frog" and replace with words like amphibian, croak or ribbit
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 28, 2020, 07:20:25 AM
Next up is Robot Burns Cigars compared to Robt. Burns Cigars. Wonder if the Wacky Package inspired Bender from Futurama!

(https://i.postimg.cc/BP0qNSRR/robotburns-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BP0qNSRR)(https://i.postimg.cc/XZT8TK61/robt-burns.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZT8TK61)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BXvvz6jG/bc60u.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXvvz6jG)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 28, 2020, 06:18:38 PM
Next up is Robot Burns Cigars compared to Robt. Burns Cigars. Wonder if the Wacky Package inspired Bender from Futurama!

(https://i.postimg.cc/BP0qNSRR/robotburns-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BP0qNSRR)(https://i.postimg.cc/vDsg0b7Q/Robt-Burns3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDsg0b7Q)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BXvvz6jG/bc60u.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXvvz6jG)
Just one of many Wackys whose real product counterpart I had never heard of, thus lessening any possible wow factor that the parody could have.  That being said, decent parody, good execution, and a nice really off-the-wall concept.  Metal screws in place of cigars.  Crazy!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 28, 2020, 11:42:57 PM
Just one of many Wackys whose real product counterpart I had never heard of, thus lessening any possible wow factor that the parody could have.  That being said, decent parody, good execution, and a nice really off-the-wall concept.  Metal screws in place of cigars.  Crazy!

I also had never seen the actual product, but now that I have, I appreciate this Wacky even more.  Fantastic detail, great gag and taglines, and excellent artwork.  I love the smoking robot!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on February 29, 2020, 06:03:34 AM
There's definitely something phallic about the fiery two nuts and bolt.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 29, 2020, 06:07:47 AM
concur, another good one.
one oddity is that the robot is smoking a real cigar, whereas the package contains bolts

I've also found a package that looks closer to the wacky image, and contains the leaves and crown symbol that's the origin for the flaming 'nuts & bolt'. While the basic shapes of the two do mimic each other, I'm still surprised Topps let through such a phallic image!

(https://i.postimg.cc/ryHBJDCj/robt-burns.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 29, 2020, 02:23:26 PM
concur, another good one.
one oddity is that the robot is smoking a real cigar, whereas the package contains bolts

I've also found a package that looks closer to the wacky image, and contains the leaves and crown symbol that's the origin for the flaming 'nuts & bolt'. While the basic shapes of the two do mimic each other, I'm still surprised Topps let through such a phallic image!

(https://i.postimg.cc/ryHBJDCj/robt-burns.jpg)

Nice! Thank you for the better product image to use for comparison!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on March 01, 2020, 04:19:50 PM
this was a product I had never heard about, but grew to enjoy the gag and love the robot character
more and more each time I look at it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 05, 2020, 04:24:26 AM
Pollydent and Polident...

(https://i.postimg.cc/62k4LnNG/pollydent-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62k4LnNG)(https://i.postimg.cc/hJHtHnZk/Polident.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJHtHnZk)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 05, 2020, 06:36:06 AM
Simple and effective.  I always like the colorful macaw with the dentures.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 05, 2020, 01:18:05 PM
As a kid I was baffled about the Pollydent title. I couldn't imagine what the bird had to do with anything - I wasn't familiar with the actual product and didn't connect the reference to "Polly want a cracker."

"Polly" used as a term for a parrot seems to be from England around the 1600's or earlier. In America we say, "Polly want a cracker" (cute baby-talk) and on the other side of the pond they say, "Polly wants a cracker." 





Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 05, 2020, 01:52:10 PM
I think this is a solid Wacky, with a great gag, and certainly the bird is well rendered.  And, thanks to my grandmother, I was familiar with the product, and she laughed a lot when I showed her the sticker.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on March 05, 2020, 11:07:02 PM
As a kid I never connected the parrot's razor sharp teeth to the parody of the actual product. I guess I was busy watching the Rockford Files.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2020, 05:32:24 AM
Stingline and Swingline...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCT3tgnK/stingline-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCT3tgnK) (https://i.postimg.cc/Fkhfvd9n/Swingline1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fkhfvd9n)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgr6yY8X/Swingline2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgr6yY8X)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 07, 2020, 07:21:02 AM
Stingline and Swingline...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCT3tgnK/stingline-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCT3tgnK) (https://i.postimg.cc/Fkhfvd9n/Swingline1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fkhfvd9n)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgr6yY8X/Swingline2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgr6yY8X)

Another solid Wacky, with a good gag and taglines, and a great character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 07, 2020, 06:01:56 PM
We had one of their ‘tot’ staplers in the house for many years, same red color, so when I first saw this Wacky there was that instant product recognition.  I think the staples themselves were smaller than standard size too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sunsweat on March 09, 2020, 06:06:55 AM
I had the same red stapler.  The staples were smaller than the regular size.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 15, 2020, 06:33:12 AM
As we duck and hide from the coronavirus, here's the next comparison...Duck and Hide with Duncan Hines

(https://i.postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3/duckandhide-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3)(https://i.postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP/Duncan-Hines1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP)(https://i.postimg.cc/SjYfFypt/Duncan-Hines2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjYfFypt)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 15, 2020, 06:58:44 AM
As we duck and hide from the coronavirus, here's the next comparison...Duck and Hide with Duncan Hines

(https://i.postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3/duckandhide-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3)(https://i.postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP/Duncan-Hines1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP)(https://i.postimg.cc/SjYfFypt/Duncan-Hines2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjYfFypt)

I really like this one.  We always had a box of this mix around for emergencies, when there was no time for a scratch made cake.  Great gag and character, with matching tag lines, and they nailed the packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on March 15, 2020, 07:13:48 AM
As we duck and hide from the coronavirus, here's the next comparison...Duck and Hide with Duncan Hines

(https://i.postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3/duckandhide-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRRJfTq3)(https://i.postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP/Duncan-Hines1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqZGM7nP)(https://i.postimg.cc/SjYfFypt/Duncan-Hines2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjYfFypt)

Thanks for supplying some diversion in these trying times! This sent me down a couple rabbit holes as I'm not always sure which of these brands are named after a real person. For those looking for more diversions, here's a link to the Wikipedia page on Duncan Hines who apparently was an American pioneer of restaurant ratings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hines)

And here's one to an article on eponymous brands:

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/30655/11-eponymous-brands-and-people-behind-them (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/30655/11-eponymous-brands-and-people-behind-them)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 19, 2020, 08:47:51 AM
Here's the next one. Pieces and Reese's. The real packaging still looks virtually the same today.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm/pieces-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy/Reese-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on March 19, 2020, 08:52:03 AM
I always wondered if they "borrowed" the name Pieces when they made their peanut butter filled m&m
 product knockoff.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on March 19, 2020, 10:37:11 AM
I always wondered if they "borrowed" the name Pieces when they made their peanut butter filled m&m product knockoff.
I highly doubt it. It's a pretty natural extension of the product name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 19, 2020, 12:49:45 PM
Here's the next one. Pieces and Reese's. The real packaging still looks virtually the same today.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm/pieces-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy/Reese-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy)

Boring packaging to start with, but the well rendered hand helps on the Wacky.  Good gag and taglines, but still, for some reason this one never grabbed me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 20, 2020, 05:20:15 AM
... for some reason this one never grabbed me.

Me neither.  For that matter, I barely even remember it from back in the day.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 20, 2020, 01:01:50 PM
Here's the next one. Pieces and Reese's. The real packaging still looks virtually the same today.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm/pieces-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXXwV4tm)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy/Reese-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9k5d3vy)
Never saw any of 12 back in the day, which I guess makes any critiques I give more objectivity, given the lack of sentimental favoritism that I have for certain other series.

I think 12 in general does a nice job with the various candy titles, and I think Pieces is a decent one too.  Now fast forward beyond the creation of Reese’s Pieces, and the Pieces title wouldn’t have worked.  Fair to say the ANS-era titles, particularly the promo postcard ReSee’s Peepers, are a more extreme and better stretch of where one can go with the humor on this brand and its expanded product line.   But for it’s time, I like Pieces just fine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 21, 2020, 01:47:45 PM
Wrecko and Necco...

(https://i.postimg.cc/rzKC8pZb/wrecko-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rzKC8pZb)(https://i.postimg.cc/1VqqDfL3/Necco.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1VqqDfL3)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 22, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
Simple but I guess more or less ok parody, but could use a character, or something to sell the gag.  The other thing I notice is that the parody’s wrapper doesn’t really capture the wax paper look of the actual product, nor the flat, wafer-like, chalky appearance of the candy itself.  Unless the candy looked a little different back in the day?  But what’s shown here is pretty much exactly what I remember it to have always been like.

Speaking of NECCO, does anyone know if the wafers or the rest of the product line are back in production?  There was a last-minute buyer of NECCO, another candy company, that came in and scooped them up, though details were very sketchy as far as when and where they anticipated resuming production.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 22, 2020, 04:59:34 PM
Don’t know if that’s what the early ‘70s Necco packaging looked like, but if so, the tag line “America’s original candy wafer” would have certainly lended itself to become “America’s original candy wager” given the betting theme of the parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 24, 2020, 12:38:46 PM
Paydough and Payday. I'm going a little faster than normal with these comparisons...almost daily. But a lot of us are home anyways

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw/paydough-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw)(https://i.postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H/Payday.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on March 24, 2020, 03:10:40 PM
Paydough and Payday. I'm going a little faster than normal with these comparisons...almost daily. But a lot of us are home anyways

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw/paydough-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw)(https://i.postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H/Payday.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H)
Ha - That one reminds me of one of the Wacky quizzes I created many years ago.  One of the questions was about Wackys that depict money.  The gist of the question was about going to the store with a Bit O Money and buying something and then how much change would you get back.  The answer was something like Pay Dough and Cents.  At least I think that's what it was.....   Too bad all those old posts from Greg's old forum are lost.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 25, 2020, 06:52:09 PM
Paydough and Payday. I'm going a little faster than normal with these comparisons...almost daily. But a lot of us are home anyways

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw/paydough-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXMBjHpw)(https://i.postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H/Payday.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLwM4Z5H)
A decent embellishment of rather simple packaging, much like Pieces.  Not the strongest gag, as it’s only being consistent with the real product name, but the little greenbacks are a nice touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 26, 2020, 11:48:36 AM
Topsoil Sootball and Topps Football...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yDXDvVPg/sootball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDXDvVPg)(https://i.postimg.cc/mP2PXv6m/Football-cards1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mP2PXv6m)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 26, 2020, 01:25:14 PM
Topsoil Sootball and Topps Football...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yDXDvVPg/sootball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDXDvVPg)(https://i.postimg.cc/mP2PXv6m/Football-cards1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mP2PXv6m)

A so-so Wacky for me, I guess partly because the "toughest" bubblegum tagline doesn't match with the sooty/dirty theme.  I think "filthiest" would have worked better. 

The player is a nice addition, and the wrapper is well rendered.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 29, 2020, 08:08:09 AM
Trying to stay active here at home, raising my spirits and hopefully others.

Next up, Siesta and Zesta crackers. I always assumed the real product was Fiesta crackers until I found the comparison packaging image, found on the back of a deck of cards, of all things. But it's an exact match!

(https://i.postimg.cc/xXHYHfVP/siesta-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXHYHfVP)(https://i.postimg.cc/PNZMB0HR/Zesta1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNZMB0HR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on March 29, 2020, 10:58:26 AM
I like how Norm made the sleeping man barefoot and put his sandals at the base of the tree.  I never noticed them before.  Whether it's bubbles in a bottle or a dog's footprint on the side of a cereal bowl (Cocoa Pups,) details such as this don't necessarily make or break a Wacky - in fact, they may not even be funny - however they do give them just a little something extra, something to take notice of.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 01, 2020, 05:52:40 PM
I thought real product was Fiesta too.  Never saw any of Series 12 until late 90’s, so there was no opportunity for associated real products to enter my consciousness, other than the more dominant ones that looked the same for years, like Reese’s, Bottle Caps, Duncan Hines, and several others.  That being said, a nice embellishment of the product.  Nicely sprinkled with characters to spruce things up.

As for Sootball, not a lot of space to work with given the large football shape and letters, but an iconic wrapper design for the era.  I like it ok, but would probably like it a lot more had I seen it through the eyes of my 8-year old self at the time.  I loved Beastball in the 13th because I was collecting those cards at the same time, but ah, getting ahead of myself again.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 02, 2020, 06:31:34 AM
Next up...Martian Hats and Mexican Hats. Was there ever a yellow version of the real product box? If not, I photoshopped the real product to simulate a yellow backdrop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B/martianhats-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B)(https://i.postimg.cc/47GF2n14/Mexican-Hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47GF2n14)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB/Mexican-Hats-revised.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 02, 2020, 08:20:27 AM
Next up...Martian Hats and Mexican Hats. Was there ever a yellow version of the real product box? If not, I photoshopped the real product to simulate a yellow backdrop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B/martianhats-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B)(https://i.postimg.cc/47GF2n14/Mexican-Hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47GF2n14)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB/Mexican-Hats-revised.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB)

This is one of my favorites!  Great gag, the candy piece shapes totally lend themselves to flying saucers, the "spice" flavor is perfect to change to the "space" theme, and there's a cool alien with a spaceship on his head!!  The box is very well done, but I can't say whether it was ever yellow for this particular candy. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 02, 2020, 12:51:10 PM
Next up...Martian Hats and Mexican Hats. Was there ever a yellow version of the real product box? If not, I photoshopped the real product to simulate a yellow backdrop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B/martianhats-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B)(https://i.postimg.cc/47GF2n14/Mexican-Hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47GF2n14)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB/Mexican-Hats-revised.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB)

Looks like both yellow and green boxes existed. Your mock up is spot on.


(https://i.postimg.cc/wtWZRMx3/mexican-hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtWZRMx3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ty2BPg6Z/mexican-hats-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ty2BPg6Z)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 02, 2020, 01:24:47 PM
The yellow one you posted is Jason Liebig’s mockup of what one would look like. Jason hasn’t found one, and if one existed, he’d be the guy to know.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 02, 2020, 03:29:23 PM
Next up...Martian Hats and Mexican Hats. Was there ever a yellow version of the real product box? If not, I photoshopped the real product to simulate a yellow backdrop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B/martianhats-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B)(https://i.postimg.cc/47GF2n14/Mexican-Hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47GF2n14)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB/Mexican-Hats-revised.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB)
Love the parody AND the real product - incredibly kitschy!  Although I imagine calling them Mexican hats would no longer fly as un-PC.  Why Mexican?  I suppose ‘Panama Hats’ could work because that’s a real product.  Sort of like Hawaiian Punch.  I don’t remember ever seeing this candy with the original box design.  I’d love to have one - I’d display it right next to my Chocolate Babies box lol.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 03, 2020, 03:12:22 AM
The yellow one you posted is Jason Liebig’s mockup of what one would look like. Jason hasn’t found one, and if one existed, he’d be the guy to known.

Ha! Then Swiski”s mockup is spot on with Jason”s mockup. I was a victim of one of Jason”s pet peeves... uncredited photos on the Internet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 03, 2020, 01:58:23 PM
Next up...Martian Hats and Mexican Hats. Was there ever a yellow version of the real product box? If not, I photoshopped the real product to simulate a yellow backdrop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B/martianhats-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj2ybv6B)(https://i.postimg.cc/47GF2n14/Mexican-Hats.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47GF2n14)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB/Mexican-Hats-revised.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSyjtmHB)
Another little oddity I just noticed now - in the parody the artist takes the liberty of replacing the black licorice piece of candy pictured with a blue one.  Same exact thing was done with Knuckles in Series 5.  Wonder if there’s something about painting or printing nuanced shades of black that presents technical challenges where another color does not.  Curious for sure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 04, 2020, 09:26:04 AM
Another little oddity I just noticed now - in the parody the artist takes the liberty of replacing the black licorice piece of candy pictured with a blue one.  Same exact thing was done with Knuckles in Series 5.  Wonder if there’s something about painting or printing nuanced shades of black that presents technical challenges where another color does not.  Curious for sure.

Maybe they just ran out of black paint that day  :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 04, 2020, 09:40:52 AM
Also didn’t realize these are different from Dots or Jujyfruits in that they’re spice-flavored gumdrops, not fruit flavored.  I guess calling them Mexican hats makes a little more sense in that Mexican food has a reputation as hot and spicy, though spearmint, peppermint, clove, etc are a far cry from jalapeño, poblano, ghost peppers, etc. lol.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 04, 2020, 10:16:51 AM
Another little oddity I just noticed now - in the parody the artist takes the liberty of replacing the black licorice piece of candy pictured with a blue one.  Same exact thing was done with Knuckles in Series 5.  Wonder if there’s something about painting or printing nuanced shades of black that presents technical challenges where another color does not.  Curious for sure.
I would say in the case of Knuckles, if they didn't use a color other than black, it would appear that the packaging had an empty spot in the middle of it, yes? Going to blue makes sense here to me, since it's a dark-ish color that won't blend into the background of the art. Doesn't really explain Martian Hats still, I guess...maybe it's as simple as they wanted the art to be more colorful by limiting the amount of black used, since the border is black.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 04, 2020, 10:44:06 AM
Yes, I wondered about that too - maybe the artist saw the replacement of the black color with blue as a way to make the overall color scheme more vibrant, sort of like M&Ms going with blue for a better color mix.  I can still remember when M&Ms had two shades of brown plus red, yellow, green & orange, an odd blend for sure
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 04, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
Just checked on Jujyfruits vs Jerkyfruits, the one remaining candy box I can think of that has a black licorice drop (other than Black Crows of course).  Real product box has several black gumdrops, while parody has one partially obscured gumdrop car that looks like it could be either black or dark purple - hard to tell.  But not the same switch to blue.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 04, 2020, 11:16:10 AM
Yes, I wondered about that too - maybe the artist saw the replacement of the black color with blue as a way to make the overall color scheme more vibrant, sort of like M&Ms going with blue for a better color mix.  I can still remember when M&Ms had two shades of brown plus red, yellow, green & orange, an odd blend for sure

I always used wonder why there weren't blue M&Ms.  And the tan ones were so very dull.

On the Wackys, like Martian Hats, I think the blue candy piece makes the packaging "pop" a little more than a black one would.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 04, 2020, 11:28:17 AM
Although the original M&Ms color blend was odd, I can’t say blue ever crossed my mind, because it’s just not a natural food color.  So when they went with blue that struck me even weirder at first.  But I guess as time went on, blue was increasingly used in candy and other products such as “blue raspberry” jello and beverages, it sort of got gradually forced into our consciousness as an acceptable food/flavor color.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 04, 2020, 01:02:29 PM
Next up is another candy parody - Battle Caps and Bottle Caps

(https://i.postimg.cc/k6MDKQKj/battlecaps-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6MDKQKj)(https://i.postimg.cc/MM1tf800/Bottle-Caps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MM1tf800)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 04, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
Next up is another candy parody - Battle Caps and Bottle Caps

(https://i.postimg.cc/k6MDKQKj/battlecaps-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6MDKQKj)(https://i.postimg.cc/MM1tf800/Bottle-Caps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MM1tf800)

I guess this one would not make the cut today for PC reasons. I'm a Scout leader and we can't do paintball or laser-tag because they emulate war. I remember my sister, 4 years younger than me, looking at this sticker and asking why two guys from the same army were shooting at each other. I assume since they both had similar helmets and uniforms. Never one of my fave Wackies or candy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 07, 2020, 05:19:36 AM
Wash 'n Fly and Wash 'n Dri...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bD6LDZN2/washfly-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bD6LDZN2)(https://i.postimg.cc/z3sKdCMG/Wash-n-Dri2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3sKdCMG)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 07, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
Battle Caps - the real product wrapper is so classic that I can’t see any way to make a parody stand out even more.  That said, obvious enough parody choice but execution not bad.  Another example of tweaking dimensions to accommodate more art.

Wash n Fly - for the longest time I thought this was some obscure bar soap.  Not much else to say - with no familiarity of the product, it just strikes me in a neutral kind of way.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 07, 2020, 05:31:12 PM
I think this one was a master stroke in changing the “swish” into a ghost. Just wish the gags were a little more fitting on this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 08, 2020, 05:32:10 AM
I think this one was a master stroke in changing the “swish” into a ghost. Just wish the gags were a little more fitting on this one.

Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts too...the swish is a ghost on the parody. Almost as cool as the swish on Cheer detergent turned into a bird on Cheep!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 08, 2020, 06:35:53 AM
Yeah, that's one of my favorite parts too...the swish is a ghost on the parody. Almost as cool as the swish on Cheer detergent turned into a bird on Cheep!

Same here, love the ghost.  Decent parody, and the boring box is well rendered, with the ghost adding to it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on April 08, 2020, 09:49:34 AM
Wash 'n Fly and Wash 'n Dri...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bD6LDZN2/washfly-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bD6LDZN2)(https://i.postimg.cc/z3sKdCMG/Wash-n-Dri2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3sKdCMG)
Wow - I don't think, until this very moment, that I realized that this was a personal towelette product.  The Wacky makes it seem like it is some kind of laundry soap
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 08, 2020, 10:02:07 AM
Wow - I don't think, until this very moment, that I realized that this was a personal towelette product.  The Wacky makes it seem like it is some kind of laundry soap

My mom always had some of these in her purse for sticky hands.  Guess that's what she got for treating us to ice cream sometimes!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 08, 2020, 10:33:17 AM
Yes, the name Wash n Dri sounds very laundry-oriented, whether a detergent or fabric softener.  I would think a ‘moist towelette’, as they’re often called, would have had a completely different name, something to the effect of clean hands.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 09, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
Weak Germ and Wheat Germ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F19yrDR4/weakgerm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F19yrDR4)(https://i.postimg.cc/FY95DtF6/Wheat-Germ1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FY95DtF6)(https://i.postimg.cc/xXjhLKtD/Wheat-Germ2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXjhLKtD)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 09, 2020, 12:17:13 PM
Weak Germ and Wheat Germ...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F19yrDR4/weakgerm-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F19yrDR4)(https://i.postimg.cc/FY95DtF6/Wheat-Germ1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FY95DtF6)(https://i.postimg.cc/xXjhLKtD/Wheat-Germ2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXjhLKtD)

I didn't appreciate this one as a kid, but now that I know what wheat germ is, I guess the main gag isn't so bad.  The bottle and lid are quite well done.  The guy, especially the shadowing, is also impressive.  Still, just not a favorite for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 09, 2020, 04:46:14 PM
Didn’t see this until the Reissues, but liked it right away.  The character with tiny dumbbells is cute, the glass bottle rendering is once again spot on, and one thing different - overall the image seems very slightly blurry or out of focus, which gives it a real vintage, throwback feel.  Or something, can’t quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 11, 2020, 05:31:13 AM
Hav-A-Temper and Hav-A-Tampa cigars.

I thought Havatampa was a Spanish word for the type of tobacco used, or the name of a person or village somewhere in South America. But here is the story...

Hav-a-Tampa was one of the few early cigar companies that was totally American owned. Using the name of the city in the cigar brand name also helped make Tampa known as Cigar City. It's signature line went, "Won't you Hav-A-Tampa cigar?" The company introduced its signature Tampa Jewels cigar in 1931. They were sent to military bases around the world. Hav-A-Tampa produced several additional name brands including Tampa Sweet, Tampa Nugget and Phillies. The Hav-A-Tampa factory was a nondescript Riga Boulevard building east of Ybor City. The company became the first to bring machines into the cigar-making business. It revolutionized the business "for good or bad, depending on who you ask." said the curator of the Tampa Bay History Center, Rodney Kite-Powell.

I'd like to know the origin of the woman in the logo, and what is the symbol she is in front of. Looks like a monogram of C and B, but I'm not sure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRpQr7c1/havatemper-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRpQr7c1)(https://i.postimg.cc/t76RbDF0/cigarros-hav-a-tampa-mild-5-cigarros-jewels-D-NQ-NP-604845-MCO27568939671-062018-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t76RbDF0)(https://i.postimg.cc/Whr2qJcJ/page-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Whr2qJcJ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 12, 2020, 04:52:36 PM
Generally speaking I like the tobacco product Wackys, especially considering how ubiquitous cigarettes, cigars and related advertising were in that era, but I have to say there are several cigar products I’ve never heard of, including this one.  Ditch Masters and Optimo sure, but Half and Half, El Producto, Robt. Burns, Muriel Blends, King Edward, Rum and Maple, etc?  Not a clue.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 12, 2020, 04:57:54 PM
I do like what was done with this one.  The little dynamite tips on the cigars are a nice touch.  I think any packaging with a cutout window showing the contents inside is a great choice for parody because you can do a lot with it creatively. Similar to clear bottles and jars showing crazy contents.  Plus here you’ve already got a character, so it’s a thumbs up for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 12, 2020, 06:01:34 PM
Love that logo, and turning the villa into an explosion was inspired.

Wild guess, but the red framing looks like a highly stylized lower case h (upper right) and a very large c, for hav-a-Tampa Cigars.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on April 12, 2020, 07:31:39 PM

Wild guess, but the red framing looks like a highly stylized lower case h (upper right) and a very large c, for hav-a-Tampa Cigars.
Well spotted! I'll buy that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 13, 2020, 02:45:09 AM
I always liked this one because the gag, taglines and little TNT cigars all go very well together.  And the cellophane is wonderfully done!  Now that I've seen the packaging I can really appreciate it - the way the box, contents and front artwork was reworked is masterful!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 13, 2020, 01:50:17 PM
I agree with the previous comments. I would not have known this product at age 10 or 11 if not for an uncle that smoked this brand. But I don't recall seeing advertising for it back in the day like the other brands mentioned previously. I have to admit liking it primarily for the colorful explosion.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 13, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
This next one if perfect for the toilet paper hoarding fascination these days...Barman and Charmin

(https://i.postimg.cc/Btn5zMCz/barman-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Btn5zMCz)(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt75fHYn/Charmin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt75fHYn)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 14, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
Well-rendered, but I’ve never liked the big meathead “Barman” character all that much.  I feel like he reminds me of someone real that I’m none too fond of, though I’m not quite sure who that is.  Would have preferred staying with the baby character like Ivery Snow did, but I realize ‘Charmin’ doesn’t offer a wide variety of choices for parody concepts.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 15, 2020, 05:13:57 AM
Well-rendered, but I’ve never liked the big meathead “Barman” character all that much.  I feel like he reminds me of someone real that I’m none too fond of, though I’m not quite sure who that is.  Would have preferred staying with the baby character like Ivery Snow did, but I realize ‘Charmin’ doesn’t offer a wide variety of choices for parody concepts.

Jay Lynch's early rough has the Barman drunk as a younger blonde-haired man. Mr. Whipple would have been the perfect character on the parody.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hj7mHhht/barman-rough.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hj7mHhht)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 16, 2020, 08:56:17 AM
I am surprised this "mascot" lasted as long as it did:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/land-o-lakes-dumps-native-america-mascot-235156343.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/land-o-lakes-dumps-native-america-mascot-235156343.html)


(https://i.postimg.cc/zHmDrs9p/landolakes1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zHmDrs9p)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 16, 2020, 10:38:54 AM
"Rep. Ruth Buffalo (D), have called the woman’s image racist. Buffalo told the paper the image goes “hand-in-hand with human and sex trafficking of our women and girls.… by depicting Native women as sex objects.”

LOL. And people insist booty grinding by Jennifer Lopez is the sign of a strong independent women.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 16, 2020, 12:34:29 PM
Next up is Dud's Boot Beer compared to Dad's Root Beer. Here's another incident where the artist took creative liberty.

There was never a can with the lighting bolt Dad's logo on top.

Why didn't they just have the logo wrapped around the boot like the logo is wrapped around the barrel on the bottom?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6T6hV134/duds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T6hV134)(https://i.postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b/Dad-s-Root-Beer1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b)(https://i.postimg.cc/BL54qnDb/Dad-s-Root-Beer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL54qnDb)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on April 16, 2020, 01:06:17 PM
Hav-A-Temper and Hav-A-Tampa cigars.

I thought Havatampa was a Spanish word for the type of tobacco used, or the name of a person or village somewhere in South America. But here is the story...

Hav-a-Tampa was one of the few early cigar companies that was totally American owned. Using the name of the city in the cigar brand name also helped make Tampa known as Cigar City. It's signature line went, "Won't you Hav-A-Tampa cigar?" The company introduced its signature Tampa Jewels cigar in 1931. They were sent to military bases around the world. Hav-A-Tampa produced several additional name brands including Tampa Sweet, Tampa Nugget and Phillies. The Hav-A-Tampa factory was a nondescript Riga Boulevard building east of Ybor City. The company became the first to bring machines into the cigar-making business. It revolutionized the business "for good or bad, depending on who you ask." said the curator of the Tampa Bay History Center, Rodney Kite-Powell.

I'd like to know the origin of the woman in the logo, and what is the symbol she is in front of. Looks like a monogram of C and B, but I'm not sure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRpQr7c1/havatemper-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRpQr7c1)(https://i.postimg.cc/t76RbDF0/cigarros-hav-a-tampa-mild-5-cigarros-jewels-D-NQ-NP-604845-MCO27568939671-062018-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t76RbDF0)(https://i.postimg.cc/Whr2qJcJ/page-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Whr2qJcJ)

I love titles like these that make me go back and look at the finer details of the character.  I don't recall taking a long look back in the days when I was younger and actively collecting these "live".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 16, 2020, 01:16:41 PM

Why didn't they just have the logo wrapped around the boot like the logo is wrapped around the barrel on the bottom?


I would guess the logo would just be too small then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 16, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
Next up is Dud's Boot Beer compared to Dad's Root Beer. Here's another incident where the artist took creative liberty.

There was never a can with the lighting bolt Dad's logo on top.

Why didn't they just have the logo wrapped around the boot like the logo is wrapped around the barrel on the bottom?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6T6hV134/duds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T6hV134)(https://i.postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b/Dad-s-Root-Beer1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b)(https://i.postimg.cc/BL54qnDb/Dad-s-Root-Beer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL54qnDb)

I like the dog and the cat.  I just don't understand why they are there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 16, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
I like the dog and the cat.  I just don't understand why they are there.

Same here.  This is one I never really "got."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 16, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
Here is a can from today.  Notice the lightning bolt logo.  I would assume the cans at the time would have to have lightning bolt logos, as well  (That is, unless Norm could see into the future.)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xqR0L1CY/512-GU0-CF9-XL.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqR0L1CY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on April 16, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
I like the dog and the cat.  I just don't understand why they are there.

I think it is because back in the day, boots were thrown at cats and dogs regularly. Sadly its still being done today.

(please support your local shelter)

Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 16, 2020, 07:35:32 PM
Next up is Dud's Boot Beer compared to Dad's Root Beer. Here's another incident where the artist took creative liberty.

There was never a can with the lighting bolt Dad's logo on top.

Why didn't they just have the logo wrapped around the boot like the logo is wrapped around the barrel on the bottom?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6T6hV134/duds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T6hV134)(https://i.postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b/Dad-s-Root-Beer1.jpg)

 (https://postimg.cc/1n1yhq8b)(https://i.postimg.cc/BL54qnDb/Dad-s-Root-Beer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL54qnDb)

I wouldn’t be too quick to conclude definitively that the name was never placed at the top of the can.  Product designs change often and rapidly at times, even if only minor tweaks.  As an example, try finding a Smith Brothers cough drop box whose graphics are an exact  match with Smith Sisters from the 5th.  Jason Liebig searched for years, and I think he had to reach across the pond to the UK to finally land a match.  The A&P green beans can label from Ape Green Beans?  Fugghedaboutit!  Also, it bears mentioning that pre-internet obscure items in general can be particularly elusive on the Internet.  I’m a fan of a color-by-numbers feature that used to be in our Sunday newspaper comics when I was a kid, and they ran this feature for more than 20 years, which equates to more than 1,000 images, and I can’t find one stinking Google image to save my life.  It was called Coloring College (later changed to Crayon Corner), and the line drawing pictures were typically different forms of wildlife, plants, historical events and people, weather phenomena, and other forms of Americana.  I guess the recent trend in adult coloring books as a form of relaxation therapy is what rekindled my interest in them.  Plus I still have a bunch that we colored in as kids.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 16, 2020, 07:39:57 PM
"Rep. Ruth Buffalo (D), have called the woman’s image racist. Buffalo told the paper the image goes “hand-in-hand with human and sex trafficking of our women and girls.… by depicting Native women as sex objects.”

LOL. And people insist booty grinding by Jennifer Lopez is the sign of a strong independent women.

Sorry Rep. Ruth, I never got a chub from looking at a box of Land O Lakes.  And eating a PT Barnum animal cracker never gave me the urge to cruelly imprison wild animals.  The things people expend their mental energy on will never cease to amaze me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on April 17, 2020, 03:56:56 AM
The things people expend their mental energy on will never cease to amaze me.

Like removing Confederate Soldier statues and renaming schools with Confederate Generals' names.  We rode around downtown Portsmouth, VA this weekend and noticed that someone had placed a mask over a Confederate Soldier's face in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.  Now, that I don't mind because it's done in good taste.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Lavirus on April 17, 2020, 06:35:51 AM
We all pick our battles in life. Some things that upset you may not upset me and vice-versa, but if you want to raise a fuss, go right ahead. But let me do the same if that's my prerogative. Frankly, it's mostly noise out in the news anyway and easily ignored. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: FourRoses on April 17, 2020, 06:41:27 AM
As it stands here and now, I'm surprised WP's are still produced in some capacity as it seems anything, no matter how innocent, can be offensive to the paramecium out there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 17, 2020, 07:39:41 AM
it seems anything, no matter how innocent, can be offensive to the paramecium out there.
Are you ridiculing paramecium? I take offense to that!!   :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 17, 2020, 09:55:08 AM
I wouldn’t be too quick to conclude definitively that the name was never placed at the top of the can.  Product designs change often and rapidly at times, even if only minor tweaks.  As an example, try finding a Smith Brothers cough drop box whose graphics are an exact  match with Smith Sisters from the 5th.  Jason Liebig searched for years, and I think he had to reach across the pond to the UK to finally land a match.  The A&P green beans can label from Ape Green Beans?  Fugghedaboutit!  Also, it bears mentioning that pre-internet obscure items in general can be particularly elusive on the Internet.  I’m a fan of a color-by-numbers feature that used to be in our Sunday newspaper comics when I was a kid, and they ran this feature for more than 20 years, which equates to more than 1,000 images, and I can’t find one stinking Google image to save my life.  It was called Coloring College (later changed to Crayon Corner), and the line drawing pictures were typically different forms of wildlife, plants, historical events and people, weather phenomena, and other forms of Americana.  I guess the recent trend in adult coloring books as a form of relaxation therapy is what rekindled my interest in them.  Plus I still have a bunch that we colored in as kids.

I'm just guessing from the two can images I found that the WP artist made some creative changes. It's not the first time this happened. It's possible there is a matching can out there released during a brief time period. I'm still looking heavily. But you're right...many 1970s era packaging images are lost in obscurity. It's like a treasure hunt for me to find them!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 17, 2020, 12:09:46 PM
"Rep. Ruth Buffalo (D), have called the woman’s image racist. Buffalo told the paper the image goes “hand-in-hand with human and sex trafficking of our women and girls.… by depicting Native women as sex objects.”

LOL. And people insist booty grinding by Jennifer Lopez is the sign of a strong independent women.

I wonder if maybe "the adults" finally learned about the old "fold trick" you can do with Land O Lakes. Probably with the Wacky as well.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 17, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
okay enough Wacky, but the product is one I was never familiar with as a kid. And even now, I'm not sure I've ever noticed it in a store.

Seeing this spoof does make me wonder if the "Not Your Father's Root Beer" brand name started as a play on this one. While it is a common catch-phrase, to be tied in with root beer seems more than a coincidence.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 17, 2020, 04:36:12 PM
I wonder if maybe "the adults" finally learned about the old "fold trick" you can do with Land O Lakes. Probably with the Wacky as well.
Never heard of that, but I’m guessing it’s got something to do with making her knees look like naked boobs?  Maybe that’s how the MAD fold-in got started!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 17, 2020, 04:45:32 PM
I'm just guessing from the two can images I found that the WP artist made some creative changes. It's not the first time this happened. It's possible there is a matching can out there released during a brief time period. I'm still looking heavily. But you're right...many 1970s era packaging images are lost in obscurity. It's like a treasure hunt for me to find them!
To be fair, you certainly could be right as well - there are many examples of creative license taken, like distorting product shapes, the Mexican Hats parody yellow box that may not exist, etc.

I always thought the lostwackys.com website had the best real product images available, and many of them are, but in quite a few cases I found better matches with a little investigative work.  I don’t think that site is active anymore, although occasionally folks here post links to specific images that seem to work.  I just can’t enter the general website anymore, haven’t been able to for a couple years at least.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 18, 2020, 04:27:55 AM
Buz and Biz...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX/buz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1f41kH5/Biz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1f41kH5)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 18, 2020, 06:10:44 AM
Another real product totally unfamiliar to me.  Never heard of a laundry pre-soaker - maybe this was a predecessor to Shout!

Nice enough in overall appearance, the bee character is funny looking, and “gnat wt” is clever too.  Good job sprucing up an incredibly drab-looking product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 18, 2020, 06:24:28 AM
Never heard of that, but I’m guessing it’s got something to do with making her knees look like naked boobs?  Maybe that’s how the MAD fold-in got started!

Yes, that’s exactly it (boob/knees). Never tried it with a Wacky though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 18, 2020, 07:07:40 AM
Buz and Biz...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX/buz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1f41kH5/Biz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1f41kH5)

How about a Pixar updated version of this one called BUZZ... send tough dirt and stains to infinity and beyond. For presoaks on launch day.


(https://i.postimg.cc/gXTZVBnB/D0298332-8771-47-EA-83-C5-DE6943630223.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXTZVBnB)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 18, 2020, 08:06:35 AM
Buz and Biz...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX/buz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftTfLwDX)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1f41kH5/Biz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1f41kH5)

I like the washtub.  Very nostalgic.  Reminds me of something I would have seen in a MAD comic back in the day.  I don't think the washtub would work today, though.  Most kids probably wouldn't know that they were actually used for washing in the past.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 18, 2020, 09:07:13 AM
I don’t think that site is active anymore, although occasionally folks here post links to specific images that seem to work.  I just can’t enter the general website anymore, haven’t been able to for a couple years at least.
It seems Rusty changed something at some point for the home page and the default "index.html" file isn't there. Try this URL instead: http://www.lostwackys.com/lostwackys.htm
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 18, 2020, 10:47:52 AM
Thanks for that.  Will have to write down that extension for future reference!  That site is still a good resource.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 19, 2020, 08:05:36 AM
Rusty's Lost Wackys site is indeed a valuable resource! I'm hoping to help here posting larger, clearer, more accurate real product images. It's definitely a labor of love for me!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 19, 2020, 08:07:02 AM
Shock compared to Schick. Anyone know if there is a more accurate match for the real product?

Something of interest - Jay Lynch's Shock rough art from Randy's Lost Wackys site has a different packaging design than the final parody. I was able to find a real product match for his rough art.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mPm4Ps65/shock-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPm4Ps65)(https://i.postimg.cc/DSXDTK3G/Schick.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSXDTK3G)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sQ7NbM1q/shock-rough.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQ7NbM1q)(https://i.postimg.cc/8FBybq3g/Shock-Schick-real-product.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8FBybq3g)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 19, 2020, 08:32:32 AM
Getting back to Dud's root beer, I also discovered Jay Lynch's rough art for that parody matches the real product more closely.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW/duds-rough.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW)(https://i.postimg.cc/BL54qnDb/Dad-s-Root-Beer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL54qnDb)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 19, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
Getting back to Dud's root beer, I also discovered Jay Lynch's rough art for that parody matches the real product more closely.
It also seems to help explain the presence of the animals and hat on the Wacky. Jay's rough notes explain they are blowing in the wind/breeze (drafty boot beer). Still not 100% sure about the cat, though, as the feline seems somewhat immune to the effects of the wind. I think Jay liked cats more than dogs, so maybe this was a statement to that end. Unfortunately, can't ask him.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW/duds-rough.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 20, 2020, 05:25:49 AM
Still not 100% sure about the cat, though, as the feline seems somewhat immune to the effects of the wind.

The cat is hiding behind the boot out of the wind.

To be honest, I never noticed the wind before or paid much attention to it.  I always thought that it was just a tinted highlight on the can.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 23, 2020, 05:17:02 AM
Dud and Duz...

(https://i.postimg.cc/G98Q0rk2/dud-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G98Q0rk2)(https://i.postimg.cc/1n93G9sK/Duz.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1n93G9sK)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 23, 2020, 08:28:41 AM
Talk about an actual dull product!  I think the Wacky should have been called "Dull."  It would have more accurately reflected the real product.  At least the character imparted a bit of life!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on April 23, 2020, 08:34:50 AM
I didn't realize until now that this was a re-parody, if you will, of Duz following Duzn't from the first series. Like most sequels, inferior to the original.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on April 23, 2020, 08:42:51 AM
I didn't realize until now that this was a re-parody, if you will, of Duz following Duzn't from the first series. Like most sequels, inferior to the original.

I can see how that would be hard to pick up, especially since there was a wholesale change to the product packaging.   The Duzn't box is not even close to the Dud box.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 23, 2020, 09:34:47 AM
I can see how that would be hard to pick up, especially since there was a wholesale change to the product packaging.   The Duzn't box is not even close to the Dud box.
Very cool observation - a re-parody following major changes to the real product packaging.  That was definitely more of an ANS phenomenon, as several brands were just ripe for being spoofed over and over, although in many cases with minimal changes to packaging.  I’m sure glad all those Dunkin‘ Donuts parodies got made before they dropped the “Donuts” from their name.  What the heck can you do with just Dunkin’?

I’d be interested to know how many times this happened strictly in OS.  Probably not that many, but probably more than one would guess just throwing out a quick guess without thinking it through.  For example, Poopsie / Pupsi / Burpsi.

But back on topic, I kinda like Dud.  Cute character, and the yawn is convincing enough to make me yawn when I look at it.  I do like most of the laundry detergent box parodies for some reason.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 23, 2020, 10:17:55 AM
Even the basic red and blue on the real Duz box is so generic. The parody artist used a deeper red and lighter blue to make it slightly more interesting.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on April 23, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
This is about the most lifeless original packaging I've seen. The Wacky version looks materially different, but worth the trade-off.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 24, 2020, 04:52:36 AM
Mr. Mean compared to Mr. Clean, along with the first parody Mrs. Klean...

(https://i.postimg.cc/zbcgchGY/mrmean-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbcgchGY)(https://i.postimg.cc/2bNpNBsW/Mr-Clean.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bNpNBsW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xkSg0yd9/mrsklean-27-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkSg0yd9)(https://i.postimg.cc/RJcZzBpS/Mr-Clean.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJcZzBpS)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 24, 2020, 05:14:05 AM
I prefer Mrs. Klean over Mr. Mean, though I do like the bubbles and sediment in Mr. Mean's bottle.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 24, 2020, 05:33:00 AM
I prefer Mrs. Klean over Mr. Mean, though I do like the bubbles and sediment in Mr. Mean's bottle.
I agree! Why did they have Mrs. Klean name start with a K? They couldn't have Mrs. Clean with a C for legal reasons?
Mr. Mean has a better, more accurately shaped bottle too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 24, 2020, 08:59:29 AM
This is one of those cases where the second parody is arguably aesthetically better, but those initial introductions to 1st Series titles left such an indelible impression that we will always prefer that first parody no matter what.

I’m not absolutely sure, but I think Mrs. Klean may be the very first Wacky I ever saw.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 24, 2020, 10:22:23 AM
I like the contents of the Mr. Mean bottle better than the Mrs. Klean bottle, which is boring.  I think "Bully Size" would have been a better tag line for this one, but overall, it's a solid Wacky with a great gag and artwork, and a good character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 25, 2020, 11:48:43 AM
Flare and Flair pens...

(https://i.postimg.cc/fV8XFm7K/flare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fV8XFm7K)(https://i.postimg.cc/9444nSQm/Flair-Pen.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9444nSQm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on April 25, 2020, 02:53:14 PM
One of my favorites from this series. The product was familiar, the packaging spot-on, and this is one of the better homonymous titles. Plus, Flare and Killette were the last Wackys I acquired in the '70's. I got them in a pack on Halloween, 1977 (the last time I went out trick-or-treating).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 25, 2020, 04:08:22 PM
I was never big on this one, but pens and markers in blister packs hanging from pegboards in drugstores and corner stationary stores (remember those?) were a ubiquitous part of the grade school years, so I do appreciate it as a product of the times.  Same for Big Banana.  Come to think of it, Topps could have spoofed many more of these types of products than they did.  Rrrrrroooolllliinnggg Writer, Pentel pen!!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 25, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
Plus, Flare and Killette were the last Wackys I acquired in the '70's. I got them in a pack on Halloween, 1977 (the last time I went out trick-or-treating).
Did you receive a legit 12th pack, or were they in one of those fun packs?  Either way, an early childhood experience like that will make you love the titles you got more than you might have otherwise, because of that singular experience.  I was never lucky enough to get Wackys for Halloween, but if I did I’m sure I’d remember it well.  Funny you got it 2-3 years after the fact too.

I can still remember well the cards I did get on Halloween - a 1978 pack of Fleer Team Action football, which I really liked because the cards had pics of game action, not those close-up head shots common on Topps football at the time.  Also 1979(?) Fleer World Series, which had cartoon recaps of past World Series.  And of course Sugar Daddy Pro Faces, tiny skinny cards with a player’s face photo superimposed on a cartoon body.  They weren’t all in that format, but I got a few of those.  All football.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 25, 2020, 11:14:05 PM
Flare and Flair pens...

(https://i.postimg.cc/fV8XFm7K/flare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fV8XFm7K)(https://i.postimg.cc/9444nSQm/Flair-Pen.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9444nSQm)

I really like this one.  Great gag and matching taglines, they nailed the packaging, and the flaming pen with the matchstick end is funny.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on April 26, 2020, 04:35:51 AM
I was never lucky enough to get Wackys for Halloween

I remember my mother bringing home a fun bag that had Wacky Packages in it, and I didn't have enough sense to keep it unopened.  We gave the packs away for Halloween.  I'll bet no one in my neighborhood appreciated them as much as I would have, especially now.  As kids the things that we didn't know were going to be collectible now (unopened packs, wrappers, boxes, etc.) and discarded.  I even gave a Pupsi Cola to a girl I was dating because her dad worked for Pepsi and I didn't realize it was rare.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on April 26, 2020, 08:13:15 AM

I remember my mother bringing home a fun bag that had Wacky Packages in it, and I didn't have enough sense to keep it unopened.

I'd hope the desire to not open a package is a disease exclusive to adults   :^)    A kid doing it seems wrong . . .     
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 26, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
I'd hope the desire to not open a package is a disease exclusive to adults   :^)    A kid doing it seems wrong . . .   
A good point, no one should beat themselves up over failing to save even the wrappers, let along keeping packs sealed.  It’s just not in a young kid’s DNA.  Even with Reissues, though I bought enough 1st and 2nd to finish each of those sets two to three times over, it never dawned on me to keep intact sealed packs.  It wasn’t until the mid 80s that I started keeping a few sportcard packs sealed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 26, 2020, 11:53:46 AM
*let alone
F&$#@+%$ spellcheck
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 26, 2020, 11:57:39 AM
*let alone
F&$#@+%$ spellcheck
FYI, you can always go back and edit your post using the Modify option in the upper right of the message box
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 26, 2020, 12:47:19 PM
FYI, you can always go back and edit your post using the Modify option in the upper right of the message box

I tell people that a lot, but I guess sometimes it's more fun to cuss at the )$#(*&^ thing!

My sister's cellphone makes some crazy spell "corrections" that I have to figure out.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 26, 2020, 01:14:48 PM
FYI, you can always go back and edit your post using the Modify option in the upper right of the message box
Thanks for the tip.

Here’s my favorite, few years back.  Was texting my wife trying to coordinate a Chipotle order.  My iPhone spellcheck changed ‘Chipotle’ to ‘Hitler.’  I kid you not.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on April 26, 2020, 08:42:15 PM
Did you receive a legit 12th pack, or were they in one of those fun packs?  Either way, an early childhood experience like that will make you love the titles you got more than you might have otherwise, because of that singular experience.  I was never lucky enough to get Wackys for Halloween, but if I did I’m sure I’d remember it well.  Funny you got it 2-3 years after the fact too.

I can still remember well the cards I did get on Halloween - a 1978 pack of Fleer Team Action football, which I really liked because the cards had pics of game action, not those close-up head shots common on Topps football at the time.  Also 1979(?) Fleer World Series, which had cartoon recaps of past World Series.  And of course Sugar Daddy Pro Faces, tiny skinny cards with a player’s face photo superimposed on a cartoon body.  They weren’t all in that format, but I got a few of those.  All football.  Great stuff.

I'm pretty sure it was a legitimate 12th pack. It was a single green pack, not from one of those grab bags, with the two stickers and a Series 12 checklist. The gum might have been a little stale after three years, but I likely just tossed it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 27, 2020, 05:58:53 AM
The next one is another repeat of a product parody from an earlier series. Aquax compared to Ajax, compared to Ajerx. The packaging hasn't changed that much during this time period.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCNZCKh7/aquax-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCNZCKh7)(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnx8mYv/Ajax2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnx8mYv)(https://i.postimg.cc/Th9N0zJd/ajerx-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Th9N0zJd)(https://i.postimg.cc/xkwBrLX9/Ajax1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkwBrLX9)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 27, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
The next one is another repeat of a product parody from an earlier series. Aquax compared to Ajax, compared to Ajerx. The packaging hasn't changed that much during this time period.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCNZCKh7/aquax-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCNZCKh7)(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnx8mYv/Ajax2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnx8mYv)(https://i.postimg.cc/Th9N0zJd/ajerx-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Th9N0zJd)(https://i.postimg.cc/xkwBrLX9/Ajax1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkwBrLX9)

This one never did anything for me.  Doesn't seem particularly funny.  Could be that Ajerx is such a fantastic Wacky, and the duck was just not a good enough substitute?  The can isn't nearly as well done either.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on April 27, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
This one never did anything for me.  Doesn't seem particularly funny.  Could be that Ajerx is such a fantastic Wacky, and the duck was just not a good enough substitute?  The can isn't nearly as well done either.

Agreed. The duck theme really isn’t related back to anything. The Valdez oil spill was still about 15 years in the future. One redeeming quality... another example where a generic swoosh or stripe is morphed into an interesting form or character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on April 28, 2020, 09:57:57 AM
The duck theme really isn’t related back to anything.
I don't think this is such a great Wacky, either, but I must be a diplomat here and disagree with this statement. The title ties directly to the duck (a quacks & ajax).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 28, 2020, 03:37:35 PM
Killette The Wet Look and Gillette The Dry Look...

(https://i.postimg.cc/QVZ6Jf03/killette-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVZ6Jf03)(https://i.postimg.cc/PL3XCZ5R/12270906173-bb280e0e5e-k.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PL3XCZ5R)(https://i.postimg.cc/rR6L49XQ/Gillette-The-Dry-Look1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rR6L49XQ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 28, 2020, 04:57:26 PM
An entirely unfamiliar product, possibly short-lived with the graphics shown, but great execution on the Wacky.  Very 1970’s!!!  The character looks truly pissed off, giving it a little bit of that “scary Wacky” feel, and the Wacky-within-a-Wacky (smaller can) is a clever finishing touch. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 28, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
An entirely unfamiliar product, possibly short-lived with the graphics shown, but great execution on the Wacky.  Very 1970’s!!!  The character looks truly pissed off, giving it a little bit of that “scary Wacky” feel, and the Wacky-within-a-Wacky (smaller can) is a clever finishing touch.

Ah yes...the Droste effect! I just learned that term here last week from someone who spotted it in another parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on April 28, 2020, 08:59:08 PM
Never knew there was a term for it.  I was going to comment that the smaller can should itself have another tiny can visible, and so on until only the smallest speck can be seen.  Hard to do more than once or twice when you’re starting with a 3” tall image I’m sure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on April 29, 2020, 04:08:20 AM
I remember the commercials for it on TV only for the phrase "the wet head is dead!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDl8CUhAyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzvExze3-kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2AQ4M-pXlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqk3Rq4a2c4

I seem to remember one with beautiful models all saying "the wet head is dead," but I didn't see it.  I think it was a response to the Joe Namath Brylcreem commercials "a little dab will do ya' for men who use the heads about their hair."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on April 29, 2020, 12:02:09 PM
I never knew what the original product was. Thanks!

Getting back to Dud's root beer, I also discovered Jay Lynch's rough art for that parody matches the real product more closely.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW/duds-rough.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YNKPbZW)(https://i.postimg.cc/BL54qnDb/Dad-s-Root-Beer2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL54qnDb)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 29, 2020, 07:12:27 PM
Brandy Land and Candy Land...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m/brandyland-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y/Candy-Land1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on April 30, 2020, 05:14:11 AM
Great parody all around!  One of my favorites from this series.  The pink elephant is a wonderful touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on April 30, 2020, 09:21:03 AM
Brandy Land and Candy Land...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m/brandyland-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y/Candy-Land1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y)

A fantastic and memorable Wacky to be sure (for me, at least!)  Great gag, perfect taglines, great characters and art.  Wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Alexeirex on April 30, 2020, 09:42:01 AM
I remember the commercials for it on TV only for the phrase "the wet head is dead!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDl8CUhAyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzvExze3-kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2AQ4M-pXlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqk3Rq4a2c4

I seem to remember one with beautiful models all saying "the wet head is dead," but I didn't see it.  I think it was a response to the Joe Namath Brylcreem commercials "a little dab will do ya' for men who use the heads about their hair."

The rest of it went - 'Long live the dry look - from Gillette!' - I think....A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 01, 2020, 05:24:58 AM
Creep, along with the classic Crust parody, compared to Crest

(https://i.postimg.cc/S2NXBJrj/creep-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2NXBJrj)(https://i.postimg.cc/ZB79447H/crust-12-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZB79447H)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9HVw7xj/Crest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9HVw7xj)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 01, 2020, 06:16:55 AM
Brandy Land and Candy Land...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m/brandyland-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt83NW3m)(https://i.postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y/Candy-Land1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnMWPG8Y)

This one is one of the all time greats.  They really nailed it.  The packaging is perfect.  I love the large bottle of booze replacing the house.  And of course the pink elephant replacing the ginger bread man.  Not sure this one could get made today with the PC police.  I am sure the drunk ids would't pass the smell test.  Also, on the original box, I love the Two Guys price tag!  We had Two Guys near us in Western New York.  Loved going there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on May 01, 2020, 07:42:07 AM
I always loved the parodies of classic board games, I don't there are too many
that Topps didn't get perfectly?

Well, maybe "Monotony" could have had a better character on it, but still not bad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 01, 2020, 08:28:24 AM
This one is one of the all time greats.  They really nailed it.  The packaging is perfect.  I love the large bottle of booze replacing the house.  And of course the pink elephant replacing the ginger bread man.  Not sure this one could get made today with the PC police.  I am sure the drunk ids would't pass the smell test.  Also, on the original box, I love the Two Guys price tag!  We had Two Guys near us in Western New York.  Loved going there.

Agreed on the Wacky, would like this as a wall cling.  And, I remember Two Guys stores - I got Star Trek toys there sometimes.. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 01, 2020, 08:33:45 AM
Creep, along with the classic Crust parody, compared to Crest

(https://i.postimg.cc/S2NXBJrj/creep-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2NXBJrj)(https://i.postimg.cc/ZB79447H/crust-12-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZB79447H)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9HVw7xj/Crest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9HVw7xj)

This one just seems disjointed to me.  If you're toothless, why do you need fang paste?  And, is it for creeps or monsters?

Not sure where spinach flavor comes in........
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 01, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
This one just seems disjointed to me.  If you're toothless, why do you need fang paste?  And, is it for creeps or monsters?

Not sure where spinach flavor comes in........

Agreed, and that old guy with fangs is creepy but not a monster-like creep. Something I noticed on both parodies...the red triangle is near the cap area, but the real product has the red triangle on the other end and it doesn't bleed off.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 01, 2020, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: Swiski link=topic=4739.msg104207#msg104207 date=158835i2050
Something I noticed on both parodies...the red triangle is near the cap area, but the real product has the red triangle on the other end and it doesn't bleed off.
Another indication that the real product is a bit of a later (or earlier?) version is that in both Crust and Creep, the letters ‘wobble’ a bit up and down, whereas on the real product they’re in a straight line...subtle difference, but considering the two spoofs span 1967-1975, the real product must have carried the wobbly letters for quite some time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 01, 2020, 06:39:51 PM
Brandy Land - another one I would have loved had I not missed the 12th...had Candy Land as a kid and played it a lot.  Really cool art on the game board.  But alas, did not see Brandy Land until 1980, at the ‘mature’ age of 13.

Creep - nothing overly special about the spoof, although the character makes me think of a Famous Monsters magazine cover.  But I love the simple packaging design and cool fonts so much that I’m glad they spoofed it again.  Of course I’m much more partial to Crust, but Creep works for me too.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 02, 2020, 04:44:25 AM
Another indication that the real product is a bit of a later (or earlier?) version is that in both Crust and Creep, the letters ‘wobble’ a bit up and down, whereas on the real product they’re in a straight line...subtle difference, but considering the two spoofs span 1967-1975, the real product must have carried the wobbly letters for quite some time.

I found these older packaging images. Closer a little to the parody but not quite exact...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sLQRmHh/e740878526e2a59c26c0a080ae518cb0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sLQRmHh)(https://i.postimg.cc/JGQfg7S0/in-bathroom-2-crest-b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGQfg7S0)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 03, 2020, 04:25:57 AM
Finishing off the vintage 12th series is Milk Muds compared to Milk Duds. The large brown box is used more practically on the parody than the real product.

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJP70gTc/milkmuds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJP70gTc)(https://i.postimg.cc/kVDTvLQs/Milk-Duds.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVDTvLQs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2020, 04:44:40 AM
Finishing off the vintage 12th series is Milk Muds compared to Milk Duds. The large brown box is used more practically on the parody than the real product.

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJP70gTc/milkmuds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJP70gTc)(https://i.postimg.cc/kVDTvLQs/Milk-Duds.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVDTvLQs)

This is another great Wacky in Series 12!  Great gag and associated taglines, and a candy I was very familiar with.  And the wasted brown space on the real box is SO much improved by the well painted character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 03, 2020, 07:32:37 AM
Agree with Pat, the character really livens up the Wacky.  I like the ‘Hollowhead’ change, he certainly looks the part.  Noticed that the character has that weird little illumination effect, which I’ve commented on in one or two titles from prior series.  Not a complaint, just adds a little mystique I guess.

No offense to Series 12, but I’m really looking forward to Series 13, a personal favorite.  I remember a poll being conducted on the old forum ranking the popularity of each series.  I don’t remember where 13 landed overall, but Paul A absolutely trashed 13 while praising 11, which I could never understand.  To me the only knock on Series 13 you could have is the magazines, some of which are a bit lame, but 11 has even more magazines!  Sure there are a few dogs in the series, but what series doesn’t have any?  Anyway, we’ll see how the individual titles are reviewed, which is probably a better way to gauge the collective opinions of the series overall.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2020, 08:26:06 AM
Agree with Pat, the character really livens up the Wacky.  I like the ‘Hollowhead’ change, he certainly looks the part.  Noticed that the character has that weird little illumination effect, which I’ve commented on in one or two titles from prior series.  Not a complaint, just adds a little mystique I guess.

No offense to Series 12, but I’m really looking forward to Series 13, a personal favorite.  I remember a poll being conducted on the old forum ranking the popularity of each series.  I don’t remember where 13 landed overall, but Paul A absolutely trashed 13 while praising 11, which I could never understand.  To me the only knock on Series 13 you could have is the magazines, some of which are a bit lame, but 11 has even more magazines!  Sure there are a few dogs in the series, but what series doesn’t have any?  Anyway, we’ll see how the individual titles are reviewed, which is probably a better way to gauge the collective opinions of the series overall.

13 has some stellar titles!  Looking forward to playing cards while eating some donuts and ice cream  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 03, 2020, 12:18:40 PM
13 has some stellar titles! 

I remember taking the kids trick-or-treating and calling those little boxes Milk Muds.  One of the great titles that always stuck in my mind.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 03, 2020, 01:04:36 PM
13 has some stellar titles!  Looking forward to playing cards while eating some donuts and ice cream  :P
Will you have a free hand to play some paddle ball?   ;)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 03, 2020, 02:33:26 PM
Will you have a free hand to play some paddle ball?   ;)

Absolutely!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 03, 2020, 02:35:22 PM
Love the 13th series? How about the first entry from the checklist today! I know some will be SORE that I'm moving along fast, but I'm SURE some of you won't mind  :]

(https://i.postimg.cc/bZgVqDz3/sore-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZgVqDz3)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6BXbQKr/Sure1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6BXbQKr)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 03, 2020, 07:27:21 PM
A nice opener, well-rendered can and graphics.  The character is funny, looks like an angry wrestler.  I don’t think I saw this one until 1980 Reissues, but liked it right away.  Harkens back to a time when most deodorants were either aerosol sprays or roll-ons (also essentially liquid), unlike the stick deodorants more prominent today.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 06, 2020, 04:58:41 AM
Playskull Monster Building Parts and Playskool Building Cups

(https://i.postimg.cc/XGYL7nSk/playskull-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGYL7nSk)(https://i.postimg.cc/7bc9wvBS/Playskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bc9wvBS)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 06, 2020, 04:26:41 PM
An all-time favorite, hands down.  Probably the most iconic title in the series.  The Frankenstein monster theme, the screaming kid, the great balance of bright colors, this one has it all.  And a bit reminiscent of Aurora models to boot!

I only learned in the past couple years that there is a Playskool kit with the stacking cups shown.  I always figured it was a simple wooden blocks type set, and that the cylindrical shapes were created just to make the parody work.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 06, 2020, 04:47:49 PM
Love the 13th series? How about the first entry from the checklist today! I know some will be SORE that I'm moving along fast, but I'm SURE some of you won't mind  :]

(https://i.postimg.cc/bZgVqDz3/sore-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZgVqDz3)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6BXbQKr/Sure1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6BXbQKr)

Could be George 'The Animal" Steele. 
(https://i.postimg.cc/KR5pTjY7/George.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KR5pTjY7)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 06, 2020, 04:49:31 PM
An all-time favorite, hands down.  Probably the most iconic title in the series.  The Frankenstein monster theme, the screaming kid, the great balance of bright colors, this one has it all.  And a bit reminiscent of Aurora models to boot!

It is a great on, but I never understood the fangs on Frankenstein.....
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 06, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
Good “point” there.  Never realized, that qualifies for a “what’s wrong with this picture?”
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: vahsurfer on May 06, 2020, 05:25:02 PM
a TRUE Piece of comparative art!

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLbNhzn4/Slayskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLbNhzn4)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 06, 2020, 06:37:48 PM
a TRUE Piece of comparative art!

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLbNhzn4/Slayskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLbNhzn4)

I was very tempted to raise the Playskull vs Slayskool debate, but decided to hold off until we get to the 15th.  I think it’s also fantastic, but Playskull is the sentimental favorite.  It took me until 1997 just to see Slayskool for the first time.  One cool thing about both is that each has a dead-on real product match.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 07, 2020, 04:39:11 AM
It is a great on, but I never understood the fangs on Frankenstein.....

That's his brother...Fangkenstein  :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 08, 2020, 04:25:03 PM
Drainola and Granola...

(https://i.postimg.cc/SX843Y7Y/drainola-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SX843Y7Y)(https://i.postimg.cc/14yS7tg4/Granola2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14yS7tg4)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 08, 2020, 07:40:45 PM
Never saw this one back in ‘75, but I’ve always liked it.  Love it when cereal Wackys have all that detail along the box top and side panel (Betty Crooked is another good example), especially that little rectangular seal - not sure if it’s a General Mills thing, but it all enhances the illusion, makes the Wacky look like a real cereal box.  Also love the old-fashioned lettering in the Granola/Drainola name.

There’s another thing that strikes me about this Wacky - it may be the only example I can think of where a prominent character addition was painted to look like just a regular person - no exaggerated features, goofy expression, screwy eyes, eye shadow, etc.  Gives the parody an almost ‘mature’ quality in comparison with its peers.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 09, 2020, 04:09:00 AM
Never saw this one back in ‘75, but I’ve always liked it.  Love it when cereal Wackys have all that detail along the box top and side panel (Betty Crooked is another good example), especially that little rectangular seal - not sure if it’s a General Mills thing, but it all enhances the illusion, makes the Wacky look like a real cereal box.  Also love the old-fashioned lettering in the Granola/Drainola name.

There’s another thing that strikes me about this Wacky - it may be the only example I can think of where a prominent character addition was painted to look like just a regular person - no exaggerated features, goofy expression, screwy eyes, eye shadow, etc.  Gives the parody an almost ‘mature’ quality in comparison with its peers.

Yeah, that vintage font makes me think the illustrator made the vintage illustration to match. That guy in the red sweater could be from a bygone era. Wondering if that sink was based on one of these...
(https://i.postimg.cc/7fwwDqnR/f31d0b01670d1618b9e97df94e905338.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fwwDqnR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 10, 2020, 04:51:44 AM
Ale and All...

(https://i.postimg.cc/7bJWnLJJ/ale-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bJWnLJJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/ykXnL31x/All1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykXnL31x)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 10, 2020, 07:04:47 AM
Nice overall Wacky, funny character and theme. Nice vibrant color and packaging design, good choice for parody. Has a little more pop than the last few box detergent products reviewed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 10, 2020, 07:12:33 AM
We're lucky that we had artists who loved drawing "characters" to add to these boxes.  Imagine what most of the wackys would look like if Andy Warhol had done them.  Hey that's an idea for a subset the next time Topps puts out a nationwide set.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 10, 2020, 08:40:02 AM
We're lucky that we had artists who loved drawing "characters" to add to these boxes.  Imagine what most of the wackys would look like if Andy Warhol had done them.  Hey that's an idea for a subset the next time Topps puts out a nationwide set.
The only thing about Andy’s ‘pop art’ of the 1960’s that appeals to me today is that the associated packages he painted are now Wacky-era retro - Brillo & Campbell’s soup cans.  Not sure if he did more than those two.  I watched a documentary on his life and learned that when he lived in NYC he used to go to a corner bodega across the street from where he lived, and that’s where the idea to paint the products was hatched.  Not that different from Woody Gelman’s initial vision that led to Wacky Packages.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 10, 2020, 10:06:33 AM
The only thing about Andy’s ‘pop art’ of the 1960’s that appeals to me today is that the associated packages he painted are now Wacky-era retro - Brillo & Campbell’s soup cans.  Not sure if he did more than those two. 

When he painted people, he tended to paint them as portraits with 1960's and '70s psychedelic colors instead of changing their features like a caricature or character artist would.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 10, 2020, 10:30:36 AM
Yes, arguably in that sense he wasn’t what I would consider a true artist, at least not as far as what we’re talking about.  Creating repeating patterns, changing colors, etc but without a single freehand brushstroke.  But I don’t know his broader body of work enough that I could say this was all he did.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 11, 2020, 03:28:42 PM
Doomed and Diamond matches? In this case, the real product image is a match! ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/RWL34GLt/doomed-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWL34GLt)(https://i.postimg.cc/sBfMXSTN/Diamond-Matches.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBfMXSTN)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 11, 2020, 03:51:43 PM
Although this one is a favorite of my friends and I, this is one of the few that our cluster of 11 year old critics thought we could make better in terms of wording. Instead I’m doomed brand we would have preferred demon brand of matches for burning witches ( closer wordplay to matches than monsters, and diamond then doomed) and in our minds, we associated witches with being burned. But who can fault the artwork, even though it’s not a witch.



Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 11, 2020, 04:10:43 PM
Doomed and Diamond matches? In this case, the real product image is a match! ;D
So punny!
A great one for its imagery, although all the jokes don't quite mesh, such as the baseball count.
Doomed works perfectly to mimic the double-d's pointing out of the top of the diamond logo
but otherwise I'll go with sco(o)t on the 'witches' vs 'monsters'
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 11, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
Some good points here, probably right the jokes would have meshed better with a demonic / witch concept, especially considering that a Frankenstein theme was used on two different parodies.

That aside, always liked this one, at least visually.  I don’t get the baseball reference either.  Completely out of synch with the theme of the parody, and not even remotely funny.  What did the real product have printed in that location on the box?  “Strike here”?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 11, 2020, 06:30:40 PM
What did the real product have printed in that location on the box?  “Strike here”?
Likely the same phrase as on the opposite side: "Strike-On-Box-Only".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 13, 2020, 05:43:05 AM
Rowdy Gelatine and Royal Gelatin. Is Gelatine how they spill it in Europe? The real product has Gelatin on the box.

(https://i.postimg.cc/crwrtQP4/rowdy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crwrtQP4)(https://i.postimg.cc/nsczWNrC/Royal.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsczWNrC)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 13, 2020, 06:01:39 AM
I'm wondering what the fire hydrant would have looked like if it was given a subtle transparent look, like real gelatin. I'm no illustrator, but adding a few dark lines improves it a little bit...

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJmcGMqR/rowdy-small2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJmcGMqR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 13, 2020, 06:35:07 AM
How about a redo of this one named LOYAL...  dessert for man's best friend. Keep the fire hydrant of course, because dogs.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 13, 2020, 07:01:18 AM
How about a redo of this one named LOYAL...  dessert for man's best friend. Keep the fire hydrant of course, because dogs.

And add a dog peeing on the hydrant.  That's much better than a snot gag!

In some parts of the country, where there's been a drought, I've heard that trees will actually fight over dogs.  We've only ever owned one male dog, and every morning he used to walk the entire fence line, marking his territory.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 13, 2020, 07:13:07 PM
I like the visual and the hydrant is well-rendered, but the jokes/theme are a bit off - is it suggesting that the hot pepper flavor is so hot that you’ll need to call the local fire dept. to put out the fire in your mouth, hence the hydrant?  Ok I guess....but what about that scenario would be described as ‘rowdy’?  Makes me wonder if this one was rushed to get the required sticker count for the series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on May 13, 2020, 07:48:31 PM
I seem to recall that this one of Jay Lynch's gags and Rowdy was his dog's name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 13, 2020, 09:06:08 PM
If there’s an inside joke or story behind it, that would make sense.  Kind of like the Harvey Kurtzman likeness on Generally Demented Soft-Head Bulbs.  If you didn’t know that that was a tribute to someone specific, you’d be left wondering (as I was) how they ever came up with that mug.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2020, 04:14:02 AM
If there’s an inside joke or story behind it, that would make sense.  Kind of like the Harvey Kurtzman likeness on Generally Demented Soft-Head Bulbs.  If you didn’t know that that was a tribute to someone specific, you’d be left wondering (as I was) how they ever came up with that mug.
I always thought that likeness was Gene Wilder, since he played off-kilter "demented" characters in his movies (Willy Wonka, Young Frankenstein, the Producers)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 14, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
I seem to recall that this one of Jay Lynch's gags and Rowdy was his dog's name.
Yes, that's exactly what I heard. I think it might've been in the second Abrams Wacky Packages book where Jay wrote the introduction, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2020, 12:19:03 PM
Battle Ball and Paddle Ball...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv/battleball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv)(https://i.postimg.cc/vc96jzC5/Paddle-Ball1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vc96jzC5)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 14, 2020, 12:22:36 PM
Although I like the guy on the horse, I'm confused as to how they both tie in on the Wacky - and the original package, for that matter.  A knight, perhaps, might have been better, to go along with the flail (battle ball.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 14, 2020, 12:44:42 PM
Battle Ball and Paddle Ball...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv/battleball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv)(https://i.postimg.cc/vc96jzC5/Paddle-Ball1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vc96jzC5)
When my original 1973-75 childhood acquisitions were long gone but I still had a few checklists including a 13th, for years I wondered what Battle Ball was a parody of.  I figured a pack of Topps basketball cards.  It would be unusual to see a second Topps parody in the same series, but not unprecedented.  When Battle Ball was finally revealed to me in 1997, I realized that I had seen it before, must have had one from a pack in 1975.  I remembered the image with the red and blue circles, but not the name.  Not the most exciting anecdote I’m sure, but it’s what I think of now whenever I look at it.  A seeming mystery that really wasn’t a mystery at all.

Agree with the previous post that a jousting knight in armor would have made better sense thematically.  A cute little Wacky nonetheless.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 14, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
Agree with the previous post that a jousting knight in armor would have made better sense thematically.  A cute little Wacky nonetheless.

Logistically it would have been difficult for someone in a full suit of armor to use it, and if he had on his helmet, he wouldn't get a bump on his head.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 14, 2020, 01:24:26 PM
Battle Ball and Paddle Ball...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv/battleball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBkvRDPv)(https://i.postimg.cc/vc96jzC5/Paddle-Ball1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vc96jzC5)
As I stated on the Master Spreadsheet post, I've been trying to find this one's name for ages! Thanks, Swiski!

I have to admit, though, I never even saw, nor heard of, that product when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 14, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
That's his brother...Fangkenstein  :]
Or, if you watched The Milton the Monster Show on UHF, Fangenstein!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 14, 2020, 02:05:54 PM
As I stated on the Master Spreadsheet post, I've been trying to find this one's name for ages! Thanks, Swiski!

I have to admit, though, I never even saw, nor heard of, that product when I was a kid.

Glad I can help fill in the missing info on the spreadsheet!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 15, 2020, 07:48:08 AM
Scream Sicle and Cream Sicle.

1970s-era wrapper photos or samples are very hard to locate, but the older wrappers I found are close in style. The design didn't change too much.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mt4WjB93/screamsicle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt4WjB93)(https://i.postimg.cc/HrC0jvfk/Creamsicle2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrC0jvfk)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVjcdjNj/Creamsicle3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVjcdjNj)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on May 15, 2020, 09:33:20 AM
I always liked these ones, and I could go for a cool orange Creamsicle right now!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: All-Brain on May 15, 2020, 05:57:11 PM
I always liked these ones, and I could go for a cool orange Creamsicle right now!

Oh my gosh that brings back memories ! Send one my way!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 15, 2020, 06:27:13 PM
Oh my gosh that brings back memories ! Send one my way!!

It'll melt  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 16, 2020, 11:37:06 AM
Remember Scream Sicle well, always liked it for the vintage packaging design and just being a big fan of all stick ice cream products at that age.  I think I got two or three of them in my original 13th Series haul.  A fairly simple, unspectacular but much appreciated Wacky in my book.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 17, 2020, 05:16:10 AM
APE compared to A&P. Couldn't find the exact green beans can to match, but I found other A&P canned goods with a similar label design.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhC5G1yc/ape-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhC5G1yc)(https://i.postimg.cc/r0L6K37g/A-P1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0L6K37g)(https://i.postimg.cc/Wq2Q7rNk/A-P3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wq2Q7rNk)(https://i.postimg.cc/phQw8kHv/A-P2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/phQw8kHv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 17, 2020, 07:15:48 AM
Remember APE well and always liked it - great ape character, although like the fangs on Frankenstein in Playskull, I have to question the shark-like teeth on this ape.  This was around the time Jaws hit the theaters, maybe that’s the reason.

What’s odd and easily overlooked is that this is the only instance I can think of where the creative team decided to parody a supermarket-brand generic as opposed to strictly brand name.  But I think it worked well and has a lot of kitsch appeal because of it.  The vintage A&P logo is way cool.  And kudos on the matching can of corn.  I remember googling for a match  and couldn’t find anything that close.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 17, 2020, 10:12:27 AM
I'm not sure that I even knew back then that A&P products were store brands.  Now that I'm a grocery shopper myself, I appreciate store brands!  I still have some packaging from Waldbaums and Pathmark and maybe even A&P.

That being said, I like Ape because it's a funny gag and has a great ape, and it really resembles the actual product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 17, 2020, 10:24:00 AM
I'm not sure that I even knew back then that A&P products were store brands.  Now that I'm a grocery shopper myself, I appreciate store brands!  I still have some packaging from Waldbaums and Pathmark and maybe even A&P.

That being said, I like Ape because it's a funny gag and has a great ape, and it really resembles the actual product.

There is one special case worth noting when it comes to A&P.  The well-known “Eight O’Clock Coffee”, sold in bags rather than cans, started out as an A&P product, but eventually gained enough traction to become an independent brand.  Not sure when the transition occurred, but the “Eighty Cups ‘o Coffee” ANS parody was well beyond that point.  Too bad they ditched that iconic red packaging and block lettering for what they’re using today.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 18, 2020, 06:54:28 AM
Pure Pepper Sneezer Dressing compared to Pfeiffer Caesar Dressing

Real product images for this are rare, but I found the labels from the bottle along with a bad quality screen grab from a YouTube commercial video.

I also included an old photo of Mick Jagger since the guy on the parody reminds me of him.

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3d1yN8F/sneezer-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3d1yN8F)(https://i.postimg.cc/7J5tCpnK/Pfeiffer-Caesar1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7J5tCpnK)(https://i.postimg.cc/GHsSbn22/Pfeiffer-Caesar2.png) (https://postimg.cc/GHsSbn22)(https://i.postimg.cc/w3rGKj9Z/Pfeiffer-Mick-Jagger-reference.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3rGKj9Z)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 18, 2020, 03:07:32 PM
Wow, you have actually gotten to the bottom of this title and fully clarified any remaining mystery - at least there was still some in my head.

I got the Pepper/Pfeiffer part, but didn’t realize the Sneezer part was a take on Caesar flavor.  So the sticker is basically misidentified in the checklist, referred to by flavor rather than brand.  The images confirm that.  This would be like calling Scary Lee from the 8th “Screamberry Cake”.  Interesting.

No strong feelings about this title good or bad, I do like the detail in the bottle and the bubbly dressing.  Reminds me a lot of Motorzola from the 3rd.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 19, 2020, 04:42:56 AM
The rendering on this bottle is magnificent. Definitely all Norm Saunders!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 19, 2020, 05:48:03 AM
The rendering on this bottle is magnificent. Definitely all Norm Saunders!

I like the bottle too.  Don't know that I ever saw this one as a kid, think it was one I hoped to find.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on May 19, 2020, 07:26:31 AM
Not sure I ever knew what this was other than Sneezer.
Great bottle and the Motorzola looking bubbly oil mixture inside.
As always, great recreation of the logo, love the NE merged to replicate the Latin Æ on the bottle.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 19, 2020, 07:38:24 AM
Being Canadian, there were a lot of Wacky products that my friends and I had no clue about (never heard of Pfeiffer dressings) so only the most humorous parodies would have stuck. Don't remember this sticker (13th series never crossed the border) but I can guarantee Sneezer dressing would have been a hit in my schoolyard!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 19, 2020, 03:56:02 PM
Being Canadian, there were a lot of Wacky products that my friends and I had no clue about (never heard of Pfeiffer dressings) so only the most humorous parodies would have stuck. Don't remember this sticker (13th series never crossed the border) but I can guarantee Sneezer dressing would have been a hit in my schoolyard!
That’s really interesting about certain products being unfamiliar in Canada, probably explains why the OPC versions of the early series had differences in titles and fewer titles on checklists - maybe attempts to edit out products not distributed in Canada?  Just speculating, I really have no idea if that’s the case.

In the past there have been discussions here concerning unfamiliar products to collectors in certain parts of the US, based on their area not being part of limited regional product distribution.  I think certain breads, cakes, ground coffee and possibly other beverages were among the products mentioned.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 19, 2020, 06:53:42 PM
That’s really interesting about certain products being unfamiliar in Canada, probably explains why the OPC versions of the early series had differences in titles and fewer titles on checklists - maybe attempts to edit out products not distributed in Canada?  Just speculating, I really have no idea if that’s the case.

In the past there have been discussions here concerning unfamiliar products to collectors in certain parts of the US, based on their area not being part of limited regional product distribution.  I think certain breads, cakes, ground coffee and possibly other beverages were among the products mentioned.

Titles like Tied, Crust, Kook-Aid and Jail-O were instantly recognizable, but I remember seeing Chock Full O' Nuts and Bolts as a kid and thinking it had to be some sort of parody of what I knew as nuts 'n bolts - the snack mix with pretzels, shreddies,  cheerios, etc.- and being completely confused.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 20, 2020, 04:42:07 AM
Bug Wally compared to Big Wally. Looking at the real product cans, they should have labeled the smaller size can "Little Wally"

(https://i.postimg.cc/SJ78W0cT/bugwally-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJ78W0cT)(https://i.postimg.cc/Hjb7gGvY/Big-Wally1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hjb7gGvY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 20, 2020, 02:26:15 PM
Never saw the Wacky back in the day and never heard of the product.  Was just one of those titles on a checklist that made no sense to me at all.  Not bad though, I’m sure I’d appreciate it more if there was some familiarity.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on May 20, 2020, 07:46:57 PM
I had the original artwork once. (Jay Lynch restored the broken lettering for me.) When I went to get it framed, the store clerk thought it was an actual product for removing squashed insects.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 21, 2020, 01:47:34 PM
Bathless Ribbons and Baskin Robbins...

(https://i.postimg.cc/DmsnFfBS/bathless-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmsnFfBS)(https://i.postimg.cc/yJkCG7DY/Baskin-Robbins2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJkCG7DY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 21, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
Bathless Ribbons and Baskin Robbins...

(https://i.postimg.cc/DmsnFfBS/bathless-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmsnFfBS)(https://i.postimg.cc/yJkCG7DY/Baskin-Robbins2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJkCG7DY)
This was one of two stickers (15th Mare Cigarettes the other) I found in the mid 80’s stuck inside the hinged lid of a small metal box my brother had.  I assume I put them there because by 1975, being the youngest of 4 brothers, I think I alone still had the passion for Wackys.  Although I also came across some other stuck stickers over the years, these were the only two I was able to cleanly and fully unpeel.  They came off curled and with little stickiness left on the backsides, so I placed them on a borderless Reissue card, slid them into a penny sleeve and stored them between baseball cards in an overstuffed box so that the pressure would make them hold, which eventually they did.  This salvage project yielded my only OS stickers from 1970-something until the late 90’s.  I was happy to have them, but of course ever hungry for more.  BTW, it was also very sweet to finally get a fully intact, unstuck example of this sticker, full border and all.

I didn’t pick up right away on the notion that the parody title was a poke at hippies (guess I didn’t understand a bohemian lifestyle back then), but I guess it works.  Love the product, the colors and vintage packaging.  A lot of visual wow factor as opposed to being among the funniest parodies.  In modern times Baskin Robbins and Dunkin Donuts are often seen in tandem under one roof; wonder if that was ever the case back then, seeing both brands parodied in the same series.  I never saw any combined stores back then, it was always one or the other.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 21, 2020, 02:14:56 PM
Bathless Ribbons? As a parody it's stinkier than that cone-chomping hippie. Never saw that Wacky as a kid, and even if we'd actually had Baskin Robbins ice cream parlors here I'm sure it would have still completely confused me. Where are the ribbons? And what's that green stuff, slime?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 21, 2020, 03:46:08 PM
Bathless Ribbons? As a parody it's stinkier than that cone-chomping hippie. Never saw that Wacky as a kid, and even if we'd actually had Baskin Robbins ice cream parlors here I'm sure it would have still completely confused me. Where are the ribbons? And what's that green stuff, slime?
I can answer one question, at least.

It was originally submitted as Bathless Right-Ons, but Topps wanted it changed to the name it has now. A clear case of executive meddling.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 21, 2020, 03:58:43 PM
I never got the gag either. I thought maybe Bathless Ribbons were stripes of dirt on the guy's body from not bathing. Is there meaning to the number 30 instead of 31? I thought they could have kept 31 and had a joke like "dirty one flavors"  The artwork is very eye-catching though! The fun pink and brown dot pattern, the vintage logo, the green ice cream.

Regarding the real product, I couldn't find an image of the lid. Was the "31" embossed like that on the actual plastic lids?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 21, 2020, 04:02:05 PM
I never got the gag either. I thought maybe Bathless Ribbons were stripes of dirt on the guy's body from not bathing. Is there meaning to the number 30 instead of 31? I thought they could have kept 31 and had a joke like "dirty one flavors"  The artwork is very eye-catching though! The fun pink and brown dot pattern, the vintage logo, the green ice cream.
I can answer that question, too.

30 was based on the old 1960s-1970s saying "Never trust anyone over 30", which was popular in the youth culture at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 21, 2020, 04:02:33 PM
Is there meaning to the number 30 instead of 31?
Has to do with the cliche at the time of hippies "not trusting anyone over the age of 30". Google it. We old guys remember those days from the 60s.  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 21, 2020, 04:03:52 PM
Has to do with the cliche at the time of hippies "not trusting anyone over the age of 30". Google it. We old guys remember those days from the 60s.  :P
What I said.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 21, 2020, 06:45:02 PM
Wow, a lot of history and inside info here!  Can’t see why Bathless Right-Ons would be objectionable, maybe corporate saw that as too direct a shot at hippie culture.

As for the embossed lid question, yes, I think those were used, but mainly for the larger containers where a customer would want a quart or 1/2 gallon of a particular flavor to bring home to the freezer, not so much for the individual cups or sundaes.  I don’t think caps or covers were used much for the smaller items because back then people would usually hang in or outside the store and chow down right then and there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 21, 2020, 07:34:20 PM
What I said.
I didn’t know you were the only one allowed to respond on this thread.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 21, 2020, 07:49:22 PM
I didn’t know you were the only one allowed to respond on this thread.
No, I was referring to the fact that I said the same thing that you said before you even said it.

I said nothing of the kind of thing that you think I said. If you thought otherwise, I'm not to blame.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Lavirus on May 21, 2020, 08:46:52 PM
I'm sure the number also has something to do with their slogan - "31 flavors".

My family was a big fan of Baskin Robbins and we thought this was such a weak Wacky at the time. More's the pity.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 22, 2020, 04:25:47 AM
Thanks for the history on the hippie references, guys! I was too young to pay attention at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 22, 2020, 05:39:22 AM
Icicle compared to Bicycle playing cards. I'd love to see more parodies of vintage playing cards in a future Old School set - Bee, Hoyle, etc.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp94HrSj/icicle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp94HrSj)(https://i.postimg.cc/R3pB6ffR/Bicycle1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R3pB6ffR)(https://i.postimg.cc/phgMkHs5/Bicycle2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/phgMkHs5)(https://i.postimg.cc/XGZ0wJk0/Bicycle3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGZ0wJk0)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 22, 2020, 05:53:24 AM
Icicle compared to Bicycle playing cards. I'd love to see more parodies of vintage playing cards in a future Old School set - Bee, Hoyle, etc.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp94HrSj/icicle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp94HrSj)(https://i.postimg.cc/R3pB6ffR/Bicycle1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R3pB6ffR)(https://i.postimg.cc/phgMkHs5/Bicycle2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/phgMkHs5)(https://i.postimg.cc/XGZ0wJk0/Bicycle3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGZ0wJk0)

I've always really liked this one.  Great gag and taglines, and they nailed the packaging.  Polar cards at the top is funny!  And, they spelled Arctic right!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 22, 2020, 07:49:11 AM
Icicle compared to Bicycle playing cards. I'd love to see more parodies of vintage playing cards in a future Old School set - Bee, Hoyle, etc.

:nono:

Eskimo is no longer politically correct: these shall now be known as, "playing cards for Inuit."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on May 22, 2020, 09:10:00 AM

Bathless Ribbons? 
It could have been Bathless Rightons

(https://i.imgur.com/Ir4J04V.jpg)

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jay-lynch-wacky-packages-card-preliminary-illustration-original-art-topps-1975-total-2-items-/a/830-92342.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 22, 2020, 09:32:58 AM
It could have been Bathless Rightons

(https://i.imgur.com/Ir4J04V.jpg)

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jay-lynch-wacky-packages-card-preliminary-illustration-original-art-topps-1975-total-2-items-/a/830-92342.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Now, that is an awesome Wacky and x100 times hilariouser (is that a word?) than the one they went with. Love the flies!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 22, 2020, 10:14:36 AM
It could have been Bathless Rightons

(https://i.imgur.com/Ir4J04V.jpg)

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jay-lynch-wacky-packages-card-preliminary-illustration-original-art-topps-1975-total-2-items-/a/830-92342.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
Yes, it was.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 22, 2020, 11:48:38 AM
It could have been Bathless Rightons

(https://i.imgur.com/Ir4J04V.jpg)

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jay-lynch-wacky-packages-card-preliminary-illustration-original-art-topps-1975-total-2-items-/a/830-92342.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
This Wacky would have made a lot more sense.  I would think they would have scrapped this one once they changes the title and took out the "never trust anyone over" line. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: vahsurfer on May 24, 2020, 08:19:36 AM
We need more of this type of Wacky!

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 24, 2020, 10:36:23 AM
Hazel Mishap and Hazel Bishop lipstick. Finding an exact real product image is virtually impossible, so I figure, it's visually a missing link between the two real product images I did find.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/47YZK91D/hazel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47YZK91D)(https://i.postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr/Hazel-Bishop2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr)(https://i.postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv/Hazel-Bishop.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 24, 2020, 11:05:53 AM
Hazel Mishap and Hazel Bishop lipstick. Finding an exact real product image is virtually impossible, so I figure, it's visually a missing link between the two real product images I did find.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/47YZK91D/hazel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47YZK91D)(https://i.postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr/Hazel-Bishop2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr)(https://i.postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv/Hazel-Bishop.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv)

I always thought the "lipstuck" and related taglines were great.  And, it looks like packaging I remember my aunt having when she came to visit.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 24, 2020, 04:50:50 PM
Hazel Mishap and Hazel Bishop lipstick. Finding an exact real product image is virtually impossible, so I figure, it's visually a missing link between the two real product images I did find.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/47YZK91D/hazel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47YZK91D)(https://i.postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr/Hazel-Bishop2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k2wdfcYr)(https://i.postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv/Hazel-Bishop.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJbCzNzv)

I recall similar difficulty finding an exact match for Moobeline as well, must be something about cosmetics.

I’d never seen this one in 1975 and never heard of the brand, like many other products in the Wacky family.  From the name on the checklist I gathered it was some type of lipstick, but my prediction powers ended there.  Can’t say this one does much for me.  The all-red blister pack card makes for a bland parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 25, 2020, 11:21:09 AM
Shrunken Donuts and Dunkin' Donuts...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjVj81L2/shrunkendonuts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjVj81L2)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw/4507651627-33d05a9847-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 25, 2020, 12:03:29 PM
I think the main reason the gag never hit home with me on this Wacky is because Tom Thumb donuts were a summer staple up here in Canada at the PNE. Just assumed everyone loved tiny donuts...


(https://i.postimg.cc/0Mnqh3yy/tom.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0Mnqh3yy)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 25, 2020, 12:10:17 PM
Shrunken Donuts and Dunkin' Donuts...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjVj81L2/shrunkendonuts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjVj81L2)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw/4507651627-33d05a9847-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw)

One of my favorites!  Really good gag with matching taglines.  They captured the box perfectly, and added a funny character.  Of course, having worked there I might be biased now, but I remember liking this one as a kid, too.  I stuck one of these on my locker at work once, and the owner did not find it amusing   >(   What the hell, it made up for having to wear that god awful dress and donut tree apron.  I eventually convinced him that I could learn to be a baker, and then I was allowed to wear that uniform instead - aaahh, pants!  I still have that DD baker's apron.  Time to make the donuts.... poor Fred the Baker (and me)!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 25, 2020, 12:28:10 PM
One of my favorites!  Really good gag with matching taglines.  They captured the box perfectly, and added a funny character.  Of course, having worked there I might be biased now, but I remember liking this one as a kid, too.  I stuck one of these on my locker at work once, and the owner did not find it amusing   >(   What the hell, it made up for having to wear that god awful dress and donut tree apron.  I eventually convinced him that I could learn to be a baker, and then I was allowed to wear that uniform instead - aaahh, pants!  I still have that DD baker's apron.  Time to make the donuts.... poor Fred the Baker (and me)!
Pat, what do you think of all the Dunkin' Donuts Wackys Topps has done since this one?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 25, 2020, 12:30:13 PM
How many were there? I just remember Dukin' Donuts.

What would have made this parody just a little better is to replace the green bowtie guy with a pygmy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2020, 07:23:47 PM
Shrunken Donuts and Dunkin' Donuts...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjVj81L2/shrunkendonuts-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjVj81L2)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw/4507651627-33d05a9847-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1nYFCWw)
One of my favorites from the 13th, and OS overall.  Like Bathless Ribbons, although not particularly funny, the visual really did it for me.  Also appealed to my love of junk food of course.  And with the retro graphics/packaging, my appreciation of it has only grown with time.  Was very happy to see it reprinted in the Reissues, along with Playskull and a few other 13ths.

BTW Swiski, if you’re rolling these out in checklist order, I think you inadvertently skipped over Icicle Playing cards.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 25, 2020, 08:46:39 PM
BTW Swiski, if you’re rolling these out in checklist order, I think you inadvertently skipped over Icicle Playing cards.
It was covered on the prior page, starting at reply 2095, I believe.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
My bad.  When the Jay Lynch sketch of Bathless Right-Ons was posted, I’d assumed that everything immediately preceding was all Bathless Ribbons too, as it was getting a lot of comments.  Guess I didn’t check further back to see that another title snuck in there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 25, 2020, 09:05:46 PM
How many were there? I just remember Dukin' Donuts.
Gosh there were a lot in ANS.
Punkin’ Donuts
Dungeon Donuts
Dumpin’ Donuts (cup of coffee)
Bumpkin Dimwits (ground coffee)
And I think a few more, whose names elude me now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 25, 2020, 09:40:22 PM
Gosh there were a lot in ANS.
Punkin’ Donuts
Dungeon Donuts
Dumpin’ Donuts (cup of coffee)
Bumpkin Dimwits (ground coffee)
And I think a few more, whose names elude me now.
If you want to know all of them, look up "What is the most-parodied product among all Wackys?" on pg. 1, Reply #5.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 26, 2020, 04:24:12 AM
If you want to know all of them, look up "What is the most-parodied product among all Wackys?" on pg. 1, Reply #5.

Amazing and thorough list you put together. I admit many of the ANS series titles I forget, but many stick in my mind as well. Didn't realize that many Dunkin Donuts parodies were made!

It would be cool to see a forum thread devoted to comparing different parodies of the same product, from vintage to modern day.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 26, 2020, 05:13:32 AM
Screech Tragic Embalming Tape compared to Scotch Magic Transparent Tape. Anyone have better quality images of the real products? The ones I found are low resolution quality.

(https://i.postimg.cc/S2d86Fr9/screech-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2d86Fr9)(https://i.postimg.cc/yWfcWKW4/Scotch-Tape1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yWfcWKW4)(https://i.postimg.cc/hffxdY7J/Scotch-Tape2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hffxdY7J)(https://i.postimg.cc/rK34C9Sf/Scotch-Tape3.png) (https://postimg.cc/rK34C9Sf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 26, 2020, 07:46:46 AM
Screech fires both barrels for me. A product I (a Canadian) am actually familiar with and a monster terrorizing a girl. If I'd owned this Wacky as a kid it definitely would have earned a place of honor on my headboard!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 26, 2020, 08:12:50 AM
Screech fires both barrels for me. A product I (a Canadian) am actually familiar with and a monster terrorizing a girl. If I'd owned this Wacky as a kid it definitely would have earned a place of honor on my headboard!

Always liked SCREECH. The woman and mummy almost look 3D in this one. And that easy to miss tag, "You'll need and M1" spoof of the 3M company, makes me smile.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 26, 2020, 09:40:10 AM
Wonder why they didn't make the tape look like the mummy's cloth wrappings.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on May 26, 2020, 09:50:31 AM
Wonder why they didn't make the tape look like the mummy's cloth wrappings.

That would have made it a fantastic Wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 26, 2020, 09:57:39 AM
That would have made it a fantastic Wacky!

Maybe it was a detail the illustrator thought of last minute, but because Topps needed them to be printed ASAP, he didn't have the time to change it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 26, 2020, 11:24:39 AM
Screech fires both barrels for me. A product I (a Canadian) am actually familiar with and a monster terrorizing a girl. If I'd owned this Wacky as a kid it definitely would have earned a place of honor on my headboard!
Another great monster character embellishment!  Unlike Botch Tape from Series 2, the addition of a backer card gave the artists a bigger canvas to work with.  And speaking of Botch, the Screech packaging design is close to what the product looks like today, some 45 years later.  But just 2 years earlier, the Botch design looks like it’s decades older.  Strange.  I wonder if it was somewhere in this 1973-75 window that 3M first came up with the ‘magic tape’ technology, where the tape is less shiny, thinner, and is much less visible after it’s applied to something.  In my mind’s eye, Botch takes me back to a time when all transparent tape looked like packing tape, and had a yellowish/tannish tint to it when viewed on the roll.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 26, 2020, 11:27:07 AM
Looking at package again, it indeed appears the ‘magic tape’ was something relatively new.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on May 26, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
Always liked SCREECH. The woman and mummy almost look 3D in this one. And that easy to miss tag, "You'll need and M1" spoof of the 3M company, makes me smile.

Even after you pointed it out, I'm missing the gag. What's "You'll need an M1" mean?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on May 26, 2020, 01:57:03 PM
Even after you pointed it out, I'm missing the gag. What's "You'll need an M1" mean?

M1 is a submachine gun, aka Tommy Gun.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on May 26, 2020, 03:20:58 PM
M1 is a submachine gun, aka Tommy Gun.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 27, 2020, 12:41:22 PM
Ugh! Magazine parodies again. Bum's Life and Boy's Life. Not even the title logo matches, and I grabbed group images from both 1974 and 1975.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZvtjJwtn/bumslife-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZvtjJwtn)(https://i.postimg.cc/mtSVG3dZ/Boys-Life-1974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtSVG3dZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/NKfDGyV6/Boys-Life-1975.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKfDGyV6)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 27, 2020, 08:56:57 PM
Ugh! Magazine parodies again. Bum's Life and Boy's Life. Not even the title logo matches, and I grabbed group images from both 1974 and 1975.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZvtjJwtn/bumslife-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZvtjJwtn)(https://i.postimg.cc/mtSVG3dZ/Boys-Life-1974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtSVG3dZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/NKfDGyV6/Boys-Life-1975.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKfDGyV6)
I wondered about that too.  It’s reasonably close to the 1974 copies, but the font looks different and obviously should have been painted in black not red.  The red framing looks like another needless embellishment that’s not present on any of the magazine examples shown.  Other than that it’s an ok title.  Boys’ Life was a magazine I saw around a lot back then, so I like that they chose it for a Wacky.   I think the magazine titles would be better appreciated if they filled the card space better.  The finished stickers are all a little undersized.  This has been discussed before, and I think there may have been a specific reason they were printed smaller, but can’t remember for sure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 28, 2020, 09:09:07 AM
Not much to compare on the magazine parody...here is Drain Power and Brain Power.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8frLjyn2/brainpower-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8frLjyn2)(https://i.postimg.cc/7bpgpk5w/Drain-Power1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bpgpk5w)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on May 28, 2020, 03:47:48 PM
I think the magazine titles would be better appreciated if they filled the card space better.  The finished stickers are all a little undersized.  This has been discussed before, and I think there may have been a specific reason they were printed smaller, but can’t remember for sure.
A large part of the explanation is here: http://www.wacky-packages.org/
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 28, 2020, 06:23:16 PM
Not much to compare on the magazine parody...here is Drain Power and Brain Power.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8frLjyn2/brainpower-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8frLjyn2)(https://i.postimg.cc/7bpgpk5w/Drain-Power1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bpgpk5w)
Did not see this one until the Reissues, and had no idea what the product was.  Whether I first saw Drain Power in a store or on a TV commercial I’m not sure, but I had no idea there was a product designed to clear drain clogs with a blast of pressurized air.

I guess the exposed gray matter at the top is a worthy entry into the pantheon of gross-out Wackys like Hostile Thinkies, but they could have done a better character than just a generic old guy.  Why not an exploded cranium like the aforementioned Hostile?  Or show a scientist / nerd / genius / college graduate type character?  Something that better conveys the cerebral.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 28, 2020, 06:25:29 PM
Looking at it again I guess they do try to push a concept - cleansing the minds of dirty old men of their impure, perverted thoughts.  Ok, I guess . . . .
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 29, 2020, 05:52:44 AM
LeRage's and LePage's Mucilage...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yg8SFK7R/lerages-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yg8SFK7R)(https://i.postimg.cc/xcnVg1WB/Le-Page-s-Glue1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xcnVg1WB)(https://i.postimg.cc/rKjXHLTs/Le-Page-s-Glue2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKjXHLTs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 29, 2020, 02:00:21 PM
LeRage's and LePage's Mucilage...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yg8SFK7R/lerages-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yg8SFK7R)(https://i.postimg.cc/xcnVg1WB/Le-Page-s-Glue1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xcnVg1WB)(https://i.postimg.cc/rKjXHLTs/Le-Page-s-Glue2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKjXHLTs)

Now this is a product I remember all too well.  The stuff was the worst.  The top would always get all junked up, and the glue would never come put in a uniform strip.  And it would get all over everything especially my fingers.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 29, 2020, 02:51:23 PM
Now this is a product I remember all too well.  The stuff was the worst.  The top would always get all junked up, and the glue would never come put in a uniform strip.  And it would get all over everything especially my fingers.

That’s what I really like about this Wacky. This one captures the essence of the real product and echos the feeling you had each time you tried to use it, after that first time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 29, 2020, 05:08:18 PM
Is this basically rubber cement, the same stuff that’s usually found with an applicator brush inside the cap?  If not, what exactly is mucilage, as opposed to rubber cement?  I always thought the term related to dry, pre-applied, moisture-activated glue as is found on an envelope flap or back of an old-school postage stamp.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on May 30, 2020, 05:02:49 AM
Is this basically rubber cement, the same stuff that’s usually found with an applicator brush inside the cap?  If not, what exactly is mucilage, as opposed to rubber cement?  I always thought the term related to dry, pre-applied, moisture-activated glue as is found on an envelope flap or back of an old-school postage stamp.

Very similar with maybe a bit more of a molasses texture. I think it was application issues associated with this product the lead to applicators in rubber cement. The mucilage top was rubber with basically a gaping wound-like slit in it that would scab over after each use.   :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on May 30, 2020, 05:40:59 AM
Whether I first saw Drain Power in a store or on a TV commercial I’m not sure, but I had no idea there was a product designed to clear drain clogs with a blast of pressurized air.

I remember the commercial vividly.  It showed a line of about 4 or 5 clogged sinks with transparent piping so the clog was visible.  Someone walked up and pushed it down on each drain, clearing them all in about 5 seconds.  I was impressed as a preteen, but the product isn't around any more, so it must not have been a big seller.

I've only had one clog in my kitchen sink that I couldn't clear.  I called a plumber that I knew and he cleared it instantly using a big plunger that looked similar to one that you would use on a toilet.  This product would definitely have a better selling point for a kitchen clog than using a toilet plunger.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 30, 2020, 03:01:38 PM
Windaxe and Windex...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKhG9TwP/windaxe-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKhG9TwP)(https://i.postimg.cc/jn2tW4nb/Windex1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jn2tW4nb)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on May 30, 2020, 03:28:02 PM
Whenever Swiski posts a title, I always click on the image to look at it closer and see it better.  I thought that when I clicked on this image, I would see another bottle very well rendered.  This isn't the case, however.  This time the painting somehow looks as if it was rushed.

And even though I've seen this title many times before, I never noticed until now that the handle of the axe is slightly protruding from the cap of the bottle.  What gives???
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 30, 2020, 04:28:23 PM
Despite its simplicity and lack of character embellishment, I always liked this one.  Very familiar product, as opposed to Drain Power and Big Wally.  I was glad to see its return in the 1982 album sticker set after being passed over in Reissues.  As for the axe handle piercing through the cap, that’s a good question.  On the one hand, it could be construed as the artist’s attempt to simulate the spray nozzle extension, but on the other, the simple type of screw cap shown looks more like that used with a refill bottle, which lacks the spraying apparatus.

On the 1982 set, I’ve always wondered why some personal favorites were used after being excluded from the Reissues, such as this one, Shot Tissue, Dr Popper, Doesn’t Delight, Alpoo Dog Food, Pupsi Cola and Poor Foolball, to name a few.  Did they pass the C&D test but were just excess over the 264 titles used in the Reissues?  Maybe I need to revisit the cancelled 5th Reissue set checklist to see if they’re on it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on May 30, 2020, 04:50:01 PM
Despite its simplicity and lack of character embellishment, I always liked this one.  Very familiar product, as opposed to Drain Power and Big Wally.  I was glad to see its return in the 1982 album sticker set after being passed over in Reissues.  As for the axe handle piercing through the cap, that’s a good question.  On the one hand, it could be construed as the artist’s attempt to simulate the spray nozzle extension, but on the other, the simple type of screw cap shown looks more like that used with a refill bottle, which lacks the spraying apparatus.

On the 1982 set, I’ve always wondered why some personal favorites were used after being excluded from the Reissues, such as this one, Shot Tissue, Dr Popper, Doesn’t Delight, Alpoo Dog Food, Pupsi Cola and Poor Foolball, to name a few.  Did they pass the C&D test but were just excess over the 264 titles used in the Reissues?  Maybe I need to revisit the cancelled 5th Reissue set checklist to see if they’re on it.
If you want to see the history of the lost 5th Rerun series, go to lostwackys.com and click on "1980s Lost Reprints". It'll tell you everything you need to know about it and yes, it does show a checklist. Please let me know what you think of it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on May 30, 2020, 06:20:50 PM
The cancelled 5th Reissue checklist has some of the titles that turned up in the 1982 minis like Fishey Prize, Family Circuit and Cult 45, but more importantly, it debunks the notion that only 260 or so out of all the OS 1-16 titles cleared the C&D hurdle for reprinting.  Who knows how many more titles may have been available even beyond a 5th series?  In other words, it’s quite possible the Reissues were cancelled due to waning sales rather than Topps exhausting all titles not killed by C&D requests.  I had always assumed the latter. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on May 31, 2020, 07:29:21 AM
Whenever Swiski posts a title, I always click on the image to look at it closer and see it better.  I thought that when I clicked on this image, I would see another bottle very well rendered.  This isn't the case, however.  This time the painting somehow looks as if it was rushed.

And even though I've seen this title many times before, I never noticed until now that the handle of the axe is slightly protruding from the cap of the bottle.  What gives???

The small portion of the axe handle poking through the cap bugs me as well. The axe could have been completely inside the bottle with maybe a little red mallet connected to the cap with a chain. I'm thinking those old break the glass to set fire alarms we had in school.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 07, 2020, 05:01:55 AM
Starting to fall behind on these, mainly because I'm dreading comparing the batch of magazine parodies on the checklist to the real magazines.

Here is Shorts Illustrated and Sports Illustrated...

(https://i.postimg.cc/JGyGQjwm/shortsillustrated-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGyGQjwm)(https://i.postimg.cc/8szHNXvH/Sports-Illustrated.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8szHNXvH)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 07, 2020, 02:16:20 PM
Another title I have a lot to say about.

First, on the general topic of the lack of precisely matching real products for magazine titles, I tend to agree that is the case, although here you have found a real SI issue cover that looks as though it could have inspired the Wacky, other than the fact it’s a different MLB team.  Kudos for finding that.  I don’t think I’ve ever seen that cover, and it’s a 1975 to boot.  But there’s reason to believe that most of the magazine spoofs were created before 1975, but more on that later.

Shorts Illustrated was probably the most eagerly anticipated title that I failed to acquire in my OS ‘career’.  Why?  I had three older brothers, we were all into sports, and copies of SI were always lying around the house.  It was a strong product familiarity that was uncommon at that age.  When I saw the spoof name on the 13th checklist I was just about drooling.  Alas, the title completely eluded me until the 1982 album series.  And for whatever reason, through the eyes of a 15-year-old in 1982,  it didn’t blow me away like I figured it would when I was 8.  Not sure why, I think i had built up some kind of fantasy image in my head of what the title would look like, and the actual title was nowhere close to that mental picture, whatever it was.  Looking at it now as objectively as I can, it’s a perfectly fine title, great retro Chisox uniforms, good colorful art, etc., but I always have that slight nagging thought that it fell a bit short of my expectations, though I couldn’t tell you what those expectations were.  It’s like a dream you completely forget as soon as you wake up.

I’m curious what other members have to say, to see if this is a well-liked title.  Have never heard any critique of it before, good, bad or indifferent.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on June 07, 2020, 06:31:27 PM

Shorts Illustrated was probably the most eagerly anticipated title that I failed to acquire in my OS ‘career’.  Why?  I had three older brothers, we were all into sports, and copies of SI were always lying around the house.  It was a strong product familiarity that was uncommon at that age.  When I saw the spoof name on the 13th checklist I was just about drooling.  Alas, the title completely eluded me until the 1982 album series.  And for whatever reason, through the eyes of a 15-year-old in 1982,  it didn’t blow me away like I figured it would when I was 8.  Not sure why, I think i had built up some kind of fantasy image in my head of what the title would look like, and the actual title was nowhere close to that mental picture, whatever it was.  Looking at it now as objectively as I can, it’s a perfectly fine title, great retro Chisox uniforms, good colorful art, etc., but I always have that slight nagging thought that it fell a bit short of my expectations, though I couldn’t tell you what those expectations were.  It’s like a dream you completely forget as soon as you wake up.

I’m curious what other members have to say, to see if this is a well-liked title.  Have never heard any critique of it before, good, bad or indifferent.

In general, I wasn't a big fan of the magazine Wackys, but this one had the advantage of familiarity and the artwork was decent. SI also gains points for being one of the last titles I bought from the store during the Wacky era. (Series 13 was my last such set. I was vaguely aware that there was a 14th, and I thought that was it.)

You bring up another interesting point: back then, if you had a sticker missing from your set, you never knew what it looked like unless someone else had it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 08, 2020, 07:27:51 AM
i remember being surprised as a youth when opening packs for this series for the first time and finding magazine parodies. i liked them and still do as a change of pace. But it does give the gag writer and artist more liberty in not being as tied to the fixed packaging parody for inspiration. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 08, 2020, 12:01:53 PM
i remember being surprised as a youth when opening packs for this series for the first time and finding magazine parodies. i liked them and still do as a change of pace. But it does give the gag writer and artist more liberty in not being as tied to the fixed packaging parody for inspiration.
A good point - since cover images are constantly changing there is no need to strictly adhere to a specific issue to make the parody plausible, as long as the general theme is represented, Shorts Illustrated being a good example.  And if a title usually carries a recurring character, like MAD’s Alfred E Neuman or Vampirella, the artists did a good job of incorporating those characters to optimize the parodies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on June 08, 2020, 12:46:48 PM
I guess they could have done the swine suit issue with pigs and called it Snorts Illustrated.  I never saw anything after the 12th series as a kid, but I don't think I would have liked the magazine parodies.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 09, 2020, 04:06:36 AM
Umbrella and Vampirella...

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm/umbrella-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR/Vampirella2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 09, 2020, 06:31:40 AM
I guess they could have done the swine suit issue with pigs and called it Snorts Illustrated.  I never saw anything after the 12th series as a kid, but I don't think I would have liked the magazine parodies.

 :great:   :great:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 09, 2020, 09:18:59 AM
Umbrella and Vampirella...

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm/umbrella-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR/Vampirella2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR)
I had planned to point out this similarity to an actual issue, but you beat me to the punch.  There is another issue with a similar framing as well.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM/19192796-E110-41-A5-AFFD-320-F2-CF2-A9-E2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM)

Note that these issues, #27 and #30, are dated Sept. 1973 and Jan. 1974, well before Series 13.  However, if Umbrella was among the titles originally planned for the all-magazine series, and small sizing suggests it was, that project preceded Series 11 which would make the creation of the Wackys a year or so before Series 13, so by all means one of these issues was likely used to make this parody IMO.

Critique of this title depends on whose eyes it is seen through.  My 8-year old eyes wouldn’t have known what to think.  Hadn’t seen or heard of Vampirella by then, so I wouldn’t have known what was being spoofed with the name Umbrella.  My 53-year old eyes love this title, as a fan of the entire Warren publishing group of magazines, and on the merits of the artwork itself.  I also think this one outshines both Sleepy and Famous Mobsters.  Maybe we’ll see an Eerie spoof in Old School someday?  That way all 4 major titles would be represented, which would be awesome.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on June 09, 2020, 09:47:31 AM
I had planned to point out this similarity to an actual issue, but you beat me to the punch.  There is another issue with a similar framing as well.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM/19192796-E110-41-A5-AFFD-320-F2-CF2-A9-E2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM)

Note that these issues, #27 and #30, are dated Sept. 1973 and Jan. 1974, well before Series 13.  However, if Umbrella was among the titles originally planned for the all-magazine series, and small sizing suggests it was, that project preceded Series 11 which would make the creation of the Wackys a year or so before Series 13, so by all means one of these issues was likely used to make this parody IMO.

Critique of this title depends on whose eyes it is seen through.  My 8-year old eyes wouldn’t have known what to think.  Hadn’t seen or heard of Vampirella by then, so I wouldn’t have known what was being spoofed with the name Umbrella.  My 53-year old eyes love this title, as a fan of the entire Warren publishing group of magazines, and on the merits of the artwork itself.  I also think this one outshines both Sleepy and Famous Mobsters.  Maybe we’ll see an Eerie spoof in Old School someday?  That way all 4 major titles would be represented, which would be awesome.
Don't forget The Rook. That was a major title at the time, too (or was that one made in the 1980s? I can never remember these kind of things sometimes).

And I've got a good Wacky title for Eerie, too: Query.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 09, 2020, 02:52:41 PM
I had planned to point out this similarity to an actual issue, but you beat me to the punch.  There is another issue with a similar framing as well.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM/19192796-E110-41-A5-AFFD-320-F2-CF2-A9-E2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsGLWpBM)

Note that these issues, #27 and #30, are dated Sept. 1973 and Jan. 1974, well before Series 13.  However, if Umbrella was among the titles originally planned for the all-magazine series, and small sizing suggests it was, that project preceded Series 11 which would make the creation of the Wackys a year or so before Series 13, so by all means one of these issues was likely used to make this parody IMO.

Critique of this title depends on whose eyes it is seen through.  My 8-year old eyes wouldn’t have known what to think.  Hadn’t seen or heard of Vampirella by then, so I wouldn’t have known what was being spoofed with the name Umbrella.  My 53-year old eyes love this title, as a fan of the entire Warren publishing group of magazines, and on the merits of the artwork itself.  I also think this one outshines both Sleepy and Famous Mobsters.  Maybe we’ll see an Eerie spoof in Old School someday?  That way all 4 major titles would be represented, which would be awesome.

I like the angle of Vampirella on your cover a little better...not to mention the curves  :72: I borrowed that joke from the song Clap for the Wolfman
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on June 09, 2020, 05:56:18 PM
I like the angle of Vampirella on your cover a little better...not to mention the curves  :72: I borrowed that joke from the song Clap for the Wolfman

This was one of two Series 13's I didn't see until 1999 (Icicle was the other). I would not have recognized the real product. My sole memory of Vampirella magazine was Vincent Duenas's copy being confiscated during ninth-grade Spanish class.

I give it a thumbs-up all the same. As usual, it's the artwork that sells the gag.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 09, 2020, 06:05:31 PM
Umbrella and Vampirella...

(https://i.postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm/umbrella-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fdFBsBm)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR/Vampirella2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVYr8wSR)


I would have been 14 in 1973 and pretty sure copies of VAMPIRELLA would not have passed the Mom filter to get into the house. Although my older cousins often gave me hand-me-down copies of NATIONAL LAMPOON which had far worse in it. I think my mother assumed if my aunt let my cousins buy it, it was safe. Ha!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 09, 2020, 07:02:10 PM
I like the angle of Vampirella on your cover a little better...not to mention the curves  :72: I borrowed that joke from the song Clap for the Wolfman
There are covers much hotter than that one!


(https://i.postimg.cc/T5cpd8Pw/369-E080-E-C69-A-45-EE-98-C7-7351-DFFD1-AAA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5cpd8Pw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pyQ9YjBH/EF3-A4-AB7-C28-B-432-B-828-F-1-AB0-C1-B7-B4-DA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pyQ9YjBH)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 09, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
This was one of two Series 13's I didn't see until 1999 (Icicle was the other). I would not have recognized the real product. My sole memory of Vampirella magazine was Vincent Duenas's copy being confiscated during ninth-grade Spanish class.

I give it a thumbs-up all the same. As usual, it's the artwork that sells the gag.
Great story.  The Warren mags always had an air of mystique for me.  Friends didn’t have them, I never saw them at newsstands, only in a local comic shop that stocked a lot of back issues.  But even that was back in the late 70’s and 80’s.  I didn’t even see any at the last couple comic cons I went to!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 09, 2020, 07:11:26 PM

I would have been 14 in 1973 and pretty sure copies of VAMPIRELLA would not have passed the Mom filter to get into the house.
Indeed.  There was actually some nude art in Vampirella, at least the couple issues I’ve seen.  I would put it just about on par with Heavy Metal.  I guess like EC comics, they made them magazine-sized to get around the Comics Code Authority issue.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 10, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Nooseweek and Newsweek compared. I researched covers from 1973 to 1975, and the closest one in design is the February 1973 cover. Was the guy on the parody cover supposed to represent anyone in particular?

(https://i.postimg.cc/rD2fdV5c/nooseweek-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rD2fdV5c)(https://i.postimg.cc/GBqKSvVh/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBqKSvVh)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 11, 2020, 01:19:39 PM
The distinctive look of the character does leave the impression that it’s intended to be someone specific, but I doubt it is.  This one’s always been a little odd to me.  Really silly looking though which is good.  Probably not a Saunders piece, doesn’t have the look of his typical characters.  Did Jay Lynch ever say which other artist(s) did the Wackys that weren’t done by Saunders?  I wonder if John Pound or Tom Bunk were involved back then.

This also has the distinction of being one of the only OS titles I remember having dupes of, outside of Series 4 and 5.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on June 11, 2020, 01:21:19 PM
What you missed though was that banner across the top left.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Hc6vhnLg/Newsweek1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc6vhnLg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 12, 2020, 05:16:57 AM
What you missed though was that banner across the top left.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Hc6vhnLg/Newsweek1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc6vhnLg)

I know, that's why I hate magazine parodies. The artwork is a hodge-podge from various sources.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 12, 2020, 11:52:14 AM
Nooseweek and Newsweek compared. I researched covers from 1973 to 1975, and the closest one in design is the February 1973 cover. Was the guy on the parody cover supposed to represent anyone in particular?

(https://i.postimg.cc/rD2fdV5c/nooseweek-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rD2fdV5c)(https://i.postimg.cc/GBqKSvVh/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBqKSvVh)

Two things about this one.  First, can you imagine the outcry if this one was created today?  Topps would have to fold the company.  And second, did you ever notice that the rope isn't even in a noose?  It looks ti be  knot. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 13, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
Crocked and Cracked magazines. Just a little trivia - the janitor character on each covers of the magazine is named Sylvester P. Smythe.

Searching several years of magazines, there is no close match of a real issue. While searching, I found a cool issue from 1973 with a Campbell's soup parody - Cracked Chicken Soap. On the back cover, you can cut out the label and place it over a real label on a can of Campbell's soup.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gwVZrPJJ/crocked-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwVZrPJJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/TLTWDHLc/Cracked1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLTWDHLc)(https://i.postimg.cc/jwvnQQyY/Cracked-Sylvester-P-Smythe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jwvnQQyY)(https://i.postimg.cc/RJF6P6T6/Cracked-Soup-label-parody1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJF6P6T6)(https://i.postimg.cc/K4vMcwyG/Cracked-Soup-label-parody2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4vMcwyG)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 13, 2020, 12:55:14 PM
While I’m glad they decided to parody Cracked, another favorite humor mag, this one also puzzles me a bit.  Is the elephant intended to resemble Nixon or some other relevant person from that era?  With the theme of drunkenness so dominant in this parody, I’m not sure how the elephant with the part-human face fits in.  Maybe Nixon hit the bottle hard after Watergate?

The Sylvester character looks like a direct rip-off of the Alfred E Neuman/MAD modus operandi, but that never really bothered me.  If we can have 90 comic books a month on the newsstands (at the time), I think there’s room for two humor mags (or more, if you count Crazy, Sick, etc).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on June 13, 2020, 04:45:12 PM
Is the elephant intended to resemble Nixon or some other relevant person from that era?  With the theme of drunkenness so dominant in this parody, I’m not sure how the elephant with the part-human face fits in.  Maybe Nixon hit the bottle hard after Watergate?
I believe it is as simple as this: yes, the elephant has Nixon's head/face. Seeing pink elephants is a euphemism for drunken hallucination. Moreover, Nixon was a Republican which uses the elephant as their party's symbol. So, to me, this all fit together exactly.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 16, 2020, 07:53:10 AM
Jerk in Jail compared to Jack and Jill...

(https://i.postimg.cc/0M0F1ymd/jerkinjail-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M0F1ymd)(https://i.postimg.cc/MckFcQmm/Jack-and-Jill.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MckFcQmm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on June 16, 2020, 08:03:51 AM
Never heard of Jack and Jill, but that clown on the cover is far scarier than anything Wacky could have come up with!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 16, 2020, 01:41:14 PM
Regarding JERK IN JAIL, always liked the line "How to get Poison Ivy and Break Out". 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 16, 2020, 05:42:02 PM
Jerk in Jail compared to Jack and Jill...

(https://i.postimg.cc/0M0F1ymd/jerkinjail-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M0F1ymd)(https://i.postimg.cc/MckFcQmm/Jack-and-Jill.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MckFcQmm)
I don’t remember Jack N Jill at all.  Was it digest-sized?  I remember this one, which was digest-sized:


(https://i.postimg.cc/v1VZZqV0/21-FE73-C6-B581-40-F9-A81-C-011-BFCD72-E60.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1VZZqV0)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 17, 2020, 04:26:07 AM
I don’t remember Jack N Jill at all.  Was it digest-sized?  I remember this one, which was digest-sized:


(https://i.postimg.cc/v1VZZqV0/21-FE73-C6-B581-40-F9-A81-C-011-BFCD72-E60.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1VZZqV0)

Jack and Jill was closer to a magazine size.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 20, 2020, 07:20:28 AM
National Spittoon and National Lampoon...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MMxkkXgb/spittoon-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMxkkXgb)(https://i.postimg.cc/t72KfqkW/National-Lampoon.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72KfqkW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 20, 2020, 09:19:44 AM
I think this one topped a lot of members lists of least-favorite OS Wackys.  I get that it’s a little overly simplistic - the gag is all in the name, and there’s only so much can you do with an image of a spittoon.  Smiley face an odd choice, but better than just a plain vase.  Very nice job with the title lettering.  I would consider it an average entry in the magazine titles.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 22, 2020, 11:58:15 AM
Dumb and Crazy Idiot Salt compared to Diamond Crystal Iodized Salt. I couldn't locate a matching real packaging photograph, but I did find a magnet on eBay with a simple line illustration of the packaging.

(https://i.postimg.cc/21580ZHv/dumbcrazy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21580ZHv)(https://i.postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on June 22, 2020, 12:45:01 PM
It seems like the products were become more and more obscure in these later series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 22, 2020, 12:54:11 PM
Dumb and Crazy Idiot Salt compared to Diamond Crystal Iodized Salt. I couldn't locate a matching real packaging photograph, but I did find a magnet on eBay with a simple line illustration of the packaging.

(https://i.postimg.cc/21580ZHv/dumbcrazy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21580ZHv)(https://i.postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q)

Here is an example: 
(https://i.postimg.cc/47zqTW80/diamondcrystalsalt.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47zqTW80)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 22, 2020, 01:33:38 PM
Dumb and Crazy Idiot Salt compared to Diamond Crystal Iodized Salt. I couldn't locate a matching real packaging photograph, but I did find a magnet on eBay with a simple line illustration of the packaging.

(https://i.postimg.cc/21580ZHv/dumbcrazy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21580ZHv)(https://i.postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kbrVx6q)

At least it's not a magazine!

Based gag and on the tagline, I don't understand why the kid isn't pouring salt on a banana split right in front of him.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 22, 2020, 03:59:21 PM
It seems like the products were become more and more obscure in these later series.
It must be a regional thing, because I loved this Wacky in large part because this product was super-familiar in our household.  I’m sure several brands were available in supermarkets, but this is the one we always had at home.  I also appreciated the fact that they came up with a parody name that was more clever than a simple rhyming with the product name as we see so often.  Plus, ‘Dumb and Crazy’ was much funnier to me than ‘Bathless Ribbons’.  Agree they could have come up with something sillier than sprinkling salt next to a steak rather than on it, but for overall pop and eye appeal it’s always been a personal favorite.

Was over the moon to see this one turn up in the Flashbacks, as it had never been repeated before.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 23, 2020, 04:58:39 AM
At least it's not a magazine!

Based gag and on the tagline, I don't understand why the kid isn't pouring salt on a banana split right in front of him.

Yeah, the illustration should have matched the joke.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 23, 2020, 05:05:59 AM
Here is an example: 
(https://i.postimg.cc/47zqTW80/diamondcrystalsalt.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47zqTW80)

Nice! I saw plenty of modern day containers of this brand. This is closer to the 1970s packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 23, 2020, 05:18:17 AM
Doesn't Delight Fright Cocktail and Diet Delight Fruit Cocktail. The real product image shown from the Lost Wackys site is still the best one out there.

(https://i.postimg.cc/n9VJ6BGq/doesntdelight-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9VJ6BGq)(https://i.postimg.cc/pykxKcPC/Diet-Delight1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pykxKcPC)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 23, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
I’m pretty sure I pulled one of these back in the day, and I remember being a little weirded out by it, not only because an obese Frankenstein is just bizarre, but also because I couldn’t shake the feeling that the head was a decapitated but still living head.  I didn’t spook as easily at the age of 8 as I did earlier with some of those 5th Series titles, but this one got under my skin a little.  Also the little bits of fruit around the head look more like somebody tossed a handful of Trix cereal in the air than anything resembling canned fruit cocktail.  So it’s a strange Wacky to me in a few different ways.  But that being said, I still like it!  And though I never gave it much thought before this thread reached Series 13, this now makes three titles in this series with a Frankenstein theme!  Add the mummy from Screech Tape and the ghost from Scream Sicle, and you’ve got a really monstrous series!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 24, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
Yeah, that fat Frankenstein is a jarring image. I wonder who the model was for that face. Looks like a celebrity but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. Is it Lou Costello, or maybe Curley Joe from the Three Stooges? LOL
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on June 24, 2020, 03:54:39 PM
Yeah, that fat Frankenstein is a jarring image. I wonder who the model was for that face. Looks like a celebrity but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. Is it Lou Costello, or maybe Curley Joe from the Three Stooges? LOL

Reminds me of Buddy Hackett!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/b/b1/Buddy-hackett.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20130719132753)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 24, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
Yeah, that fat Frankenstein is a jarring image. I wonder who the model was for that face. Looks like a celebrity but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. Is it Lou Costello, or maybe Curley Joe from the Three Stooges? LOL
I meant to mention that as well.  In my mind not necessarily a famous person, but a face I’ve seen before.  Probably looks slightly like someone I know or knew back then but the resemblance isn’t strong enough to definitively connect it to someone specific.  Most of the movie Frankensteins were made up to look like the creation of a mad scientist, but this looks like a normal person in a Frankenstein costume.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 24, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
Reminds me of Buddy Hackett!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/b/b1/Buddy-hackett.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20130719132753)
The facial expression is a good match!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 25, 2020, 05:52:32 AM
Terror Beastball Creepy Cards and Topps Baseball Trading Cards compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg/beastball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg)(https://i.postimg.cc/066SBHhw/Baseball-Topps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/066SBHhw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 25, 2020, 06:27:04 AM
Terror Beastball Creepy Cards and Topps Baseball Trading Cards compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg/beastball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg)(https://i.postimg.cc/066SBHhw/Baseball-Topps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/066SBHhw)

After decades I only recently noticed that the 1975 mini baseball wrapper (which you posted) has slight differences from the normal sized wrapper. Most notably, the stitching on the baseball is red on the normal wrapper but black on the mini.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zZQ2c2V/8-C995461-D0-B3-4352-8-E06-F75-AD46-E5-B08.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Yubum on June 25, 2020, 10:55:04 AM
Terror Beastball Creepy Cards and Topps Baseball Trading Cards compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg/beastball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg)(https://i.postimg.cc/066SBHhw/Baseball-Topps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/066SBHhw)

Beastball sounds like an idea ahead of it's time - sort of like Planet of the Apes meets Rollerball. Now there's a movie worth making!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on June 25, 2020, 10:59:47 AM
After decades I only recently noticed that the 1975 mini baseball wrapper (which you posted) has slight differences from the normal sized wrapper. Most notably, the stitching on the baseball is red on the normal wrapper but black on the mini.
Just odd that they would add 1975 to this if it’s not on any of the wrapper varieties.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 25, 2020, 12:33:08 PM
Just odd that they would add 1975 to this if it’s not on any of the wrapper varieties.

I don’t understand that either, there is definitely no 1975 date on any baseball pack.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 25, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
The only thing I can think of is it that the box stickers had emphasized “new 1975” starting with series 12. Maybe they were concerned with wacky pack sales slippage and just wanted to emphasize that the product was current?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 25, 2020, 03:12:53 PM
Terror Beastball Creepy Cards and Topps Baseball Trading Cards compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg/beastball-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3hjB3tg)(https://i.postimg.cc/066SBHhw/Baseball-Topps.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/066SBHhw)
When I look at Beastball, what usually crosses my mind is how at the time I was pursuing both the Wacky parody and its real-product counterpart at the same time, or almost the same time.  How often did that happen?  I remember buying 1975 baseball wax packs from an ice cream truck that stopped on our school block during lunchtime recess, a maybe 10-minute period after lunch when we were allowed to go outside on the street while both ends of the block were temporarily barricaded from through traffic.  That was early spring, April-May timeframe.  The 13th Wackys pursuit, for me, started a little later when the weather warmed up more and the ice cream trucks were more consistently present at our local park, say late May through June.  I remember the Hank Aaron card being so sought after that I traded a maybe 4-inch thick stack of 1975 commons for a heavily worn and weatherbeatenHank Aaron card, I wanted it that badly.  Guess the HR record the previous season raised his profile big time.  Looking back on it, I always wonder, how does a relatively brand-new card get that beat-up that quickly?

On Beastball, would it be fair to say that the popularity of the Planet of the Apes movie and TV franchises inspired the use of simian characters in many Wackys?  There are quite a few of them, and the parodies themselves don’t always reference apes directly, like Gulp Oil.  Guess the same could be said for the various monster characters.

Anyway, anecdotal trivia aside, great Wacky that does justice to a great wrapper.  If you look over all of Topps sports wrappers through the 70s and 80s, there are a number of drab, boring ones, but this one is at the top of the list in my book.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on June 25, 2020, 04:02:07 PM

Anyway, anecdotal trivia aside, great Wacky that does justice to a great wrapper.  If you look over all of Topps sports wrappers through the 70s and 80s, there are a number of drab, boring ones, but this one is at the top of the list in my book.

Most of the wrappers from 1956-79 were pretty cool. The only exceptions were 1966,1974 and 1976 which were all pretty interchangeable with the 80s wrappers. But I agree that the 1975 was one of the better ones, certainly the best from my collecting years.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on June 26, 2020, 11:16:41 PM
Maybe, and there had already been a Beanball which looked similar.



The only thing I can think of is it that the box stickers had emphasized “new 1975” starting with series 12. Maybe they were concerned with wacky pack sales slippage and just wanted to emphasize that the product was current?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 27, 2020, 04:40:27 AM
Finishing up Series 13...Don't-Touch-Mee compared to Swee-Touch-Nee tea bags. The real packaging I found is actually a modern box, but the design hasn't changed that much since 1975.

(https://i.postimg.cc/F1Fm4Yh9/donttouchme-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1Fm4Yh9)(https://i.postimg.cc/YvFB3gzx/Swee-Touch-Nee-tea2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvFB3gzx)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 27, 2020, 05:39:31 PM
Finishing up Series 13...Don't-Touch-Mee compared to Swee-Touch-Nee tea bags. The real packaging I found is actually a modern box, but the design hasn't changed that much since 1975.

(https://i.postimg.cc/F1Fm4Yh9/donttouchme-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1Fm4Yh9)(https://i.postimg.cc/YvFB3gzx/Swee-Touch-Nee-tea2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvFB3gzx)
Yet another unfamiliar Wacky (back then) and product (to this day), but I do like this one.  Clever play on words from a product name I don’t really understand....guess there must be a story behind giving a tea product such an odd name. Kind of cool how the white section on the right side is like a blank canvas to add a character, works well.

Sad to see the 13th Series finished, it went fast.  For some reason I missed the 14th series completely when it came out, then caught the 15th.  Another Wacky mystery.  But I dig the 14th too, so looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on June 27, 2020, 06:05:56 PM
Swee-Touch-Nee transliterates the Russian word “tsvetochny”, which means flowery.  It is a sweet blend of orange pekoe and pekoe cut black teas that traces its roots back to pre-Bolshevik Russia.  At one time the brand was particularly popular within a segment of the Jewish community in the New York City area.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 27, 2020, 07:29:07 PM
Swee-Touch-Nee transliterates the Russian word “tsvetochny”, which means flowery.  It is a sweet blend of orange pekoe and pekoe cut black teas that traces its roots back to pre-Bolshevik Russia.  At one time the brand was particularly popular within a segment of the Jewish community in the New York City area.

This blurb is also interesting....

It seemed like many Jewish and Russian-American families had the familiar red tin. The name is an attempt at translating “flowery”… you can still get it on Amazon, I think. I’ll check again. A BLAST FROM THE PAST! There was a political statement in the tea, too! Jews who were more favourable towards Russia drank Swee-Touch-Nee. Russophobic and rabidly Zionist Jews drank Wissotsky’s. To a degree, this still holds true! Yes… you can still find Swee-Touch-Nee in the Jewish foods section of many stores (but the loose-leaf variety, I fear, has gone the way of all flesh). Some have spotted it at some Wegmans locations


Who knew a Wacky could be so “steeped” in history.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 27, 2020, 08:49:46 PM
i was looking on eBay at the collectible tin box resembling the paper box design, and some had the name written in Russian.  I figured it was just a foreign variation, but then I saw there were quite a few of them listed.  With the backstory just provided, it all makes sense now.  An interesting choice for parody, given the specialty demographic.  I wonder if it could be found around Chanukah or Passover when our larger supermarkets set up a dedicated aisle carrying the related traditional foods, beverages, desserts, etc.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 28, 2020, 05:19:43 AM
I love all the interesting history shared here for the obscure real products! Later series in the vintage run parodied products I never saw in our stores. I looked for them when I went grocery shopping with my parents.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 28, 2020, 11:18:06 AM
As the run went on you would have had to expand your search beyond the supermarket - to toy stores, utility/sundry stores, newsstands, even automotive, gas stations I guess, I don’t remember the auto supply stores being in existence then as they are today.  Of course us 7-year-olds sometimes look past those places even when they do exist lol.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on June 28, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Jews who were more favourable towards Russia drank Swee-Touch-Nee.

An interesting choice for parody, given the specialty demographic.
It is quite possible that the writer of the gag fell into this category...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 28, 2020, 09:52:22 PM
Jumping into the 14th Series - the first on the checklist is a repeat of a title from the 2nd series, which we covered already. An odd choice on Topps part to do that. They could have easily picked any of their products to create a brand new parody. Anyone have trivia on why this happened?

Sugarmess Bubble Gum compared to Sugarless Bubble Gum...

(https://i.postimg.cc/21cL6YWM/sugarmess-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21cL6YWM)(https://i.postimg.cc/QVQB715p/Bazooka-Sugarless-Bubble-Gum.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVQB715p)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 29, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
Jumping into the 14th Series - the first on the checklist is a repeat of a title from the 2nd series, which we covered already. An odd choice on Topps part to do that. They could have easily picked any of their products to create a brand new parody. Anyone have trivia on why this happened?

Sugarmess Bubble Gum compared to Sugarless Bubble Gum...

(https://i.postimg.cc/21cL6YWM/sugarmess-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21cL6YWM)(https://i.postimg.cc/QVQB715p/Bazooka-Sugarless-Bubble-Gum.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVQB715p)
I’m not sure if a reason for the repeat use of Sugarmess was ever determined, but what strikes me most is the randomness of it.  Why re-use a Topps title if you already had Rotsa Root?  If a title had to be pulled at the last minute, why not just go with one less?  Wouldn’t be the first time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on June 29, 2020, 01:10:24 PM
I’m not sure if a reason for the repeat use of Sugarmess was ever determined, but what strikes me most is the randomness of it.  Why re-use a Topps title if you already had Rotsa Root?  If a title had to be pulled at the last minute, why not just go with one less?  Wouldn’t be the first time.

And such a boring title! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on June 29, 2020, 03:59:43 PM
Speaking of Rotsa Root, that's the next one on the checklist, compared to Lotsa Loot...

(https://i.postimg.cc/23nBdj2v/rotsaroot-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/23nBdj2v)(https://i.postimg.cc/CzYncyQ2/Lotsa-Loot.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzYncyQ2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 29, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Speaking of Rotsa Root, that's the next one on the checklist, compared to Lotsa Loot...

(https://i.postimg.cc/23nBdj2v/rotsaroot-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/23nBdj2v)(https://i.postimg.cc/CzYncyQ2/Lotsa-Loot.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzYncyQ2)

Can you imagine the uproar if this one was made today?  Safe to say this one will never, ever be included in a new release!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on June 29, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
Ah-so: Derogatory.  Used in representations or imitations of Japanese speech, especially to express affirmation, acknowledgement, understanding, or realization.  Earliest use found in 1920s Everybody's Magazine. From the Japanese - shortening of ā sō desu ka?, lit. ‘ oh, is that so?’
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on June 29, 2020, 05:51:54 PM
Ah-so: Derogatory.  Used in representations or imitations of Japanese speech, especially to express affirmation, acknowledgement, understanding, or realization.  Earliest use found in 1920s Everybody's Magazine. From the Japanese - shortening of ā sō desu ka?, lit. ‘ oh, is that so?’

Well, I was mostly referring to the broken English of the title. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on June 29, 2020, 06:48:08 PM
Well, I was mostly referring to the broken English of the title. 
I know.  Just having some fun...with phonics!  ;)
Japanese has one liquid phoneme /r/, realized usually as an apico-alveolar tap [ɾ] and sometimes as an alveolar lateral approximant [l]. English has two: rhotic /r/ and lateral /l/, with varying phonetic realizations centered on the postalveolar approximant [ɹ] and on the alveolar lateral approximant [l], respectively. Japanese speakers who learn English as a second language later than childhood often have difficulty in hearing and producing the /r/ and /l/ of English accurately.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 29, 2020, 07:22:04 PM
Ah-so: Derogatory.
I’m struggling to find a single word or image on this title that isn’t derogatory lol.  I guess the combination of the stereotypical put-downs being acceptable during that era, plus the concept of the parody playing entirely to this theme, makes for an all-out barrage.  It almost seems hostile, to look at it now, though I’m sure it wasn’t.  Just a product of its time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on June 30, 2020, 03:36:39 AM
I’m struggling to find a single word or image on this title that isn’t derogatory lol.  I guess the combination of the stereotypical put-downs being acceptable during that era, plus the concept of the parody playing entirely to this theme, makes for an all-out barrage.  It almost seems hostile, to look at it now, though I’m sure it wasn’t.  Just a product of its time.

At least the artist didn’t go full stereotype on the character, for example, wearing a sugegasa. Still, the tag line “you’ll have a yen for it” is pretty good.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on June 30, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
Yes, I was thinking the only thing left out was a “Hi-Ya!!!”, with a little karate guy kicking a board or something.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 01, 2020, 04:19:53 AM
Moldy Bride and Modern Bride magazines...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKhsTpBK/moldybride-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKhsTpBK)(https://i.postimg.cc/YhT6m0hG/Modern-Bride1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhT6m0hG)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 01, 2020, 09:29:31 AM
Unlike the other magazine parodies, this one doesn't look so much like a magazine but rather a thin book or even a box.

And what's up with the bride's enormous bare feet?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 01, 2020, 09:58:57 AM
Unlike the other magazine parodies, this one doesn't look so much like a magazine but rather a thin book or even a box.

And what's up with the bride's enormous bare feet?

I think certain issues were square-bound. Not sure about the large feet, but the poison ivy she's holding wouldn't make her moldy.
Now if she was a grotesque zombie with dead flesh wearing a wedding dress, that image would make more sense.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 01, 2020, 12:50:28 PM
Unlike the other magazine parodies, this one doesn't look so much like a magazine but rather a thin book or even a box.
'''

Those bridal magazines where thick!  Seriously.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 01, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
Moldy Bride and Modern Bride magazines...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKhsTpBK/moldybride-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKhsTpBK)(https://i.postimg.cc/YhT6m0hG/Modern-Bride1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhT6m0hG)
The real product doesn’t indicate a date, but strong possibility the parody was done on this specific issue based on the apparent similarities.  As bemoaned previously, a direct match to an actual issue cover has not been the case with most of the magazine titles, so add a star for Moldy Bride for that.  Agree the enlarged feet are bizarre and essentially unexplained.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 02, 2020, 02:52:37 PM
Balding and Spalding footballs...
(https://i.postimg.cc/188CQ0GX/balding-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/188CQ0GX)(https://i.postimg.cc/gXmHn3Zv/Spalding2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXmHn3Zv)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 02, 2020, 03:59:02 PM
As kids we used to refer to bicycle tires as balding when the treads would wear down, and I don’t know if the blowout hole and broken laces are meant to suggest a similarly worn-down football, but if the ‘balding’ only refers to the referees and coaches, that’s kind of weak, gag-wise.  In any case, I would have preferred a parody of a nice bright green or orange Nerf football, which was very popular back then, and more toy-like, which works better for Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 04, 2020, 09:07:41 AM
This one is confusing to me...Rebell Schlockheed Dumbo Jet 746 1/2 compared to a Revell jet model...? The jet on the parody looks like a military craft, so I thought it was the Lockheed jet real product image I found, but it's not a Jumbo Jet 747. That would be a Boeing commercial passenger jet. Can someone help make sense of this?

(https://i.postimg.cc/v41hxFHm/rebeljet-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v41hxFHm)(https://i.postimg.cc/sBYp5VF3/Revell-model1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBYp5VF3)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9QR4WYm/Revell-model2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9QR4WYm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 04, 2020, 10:02:15 AM
looks like a straight rendition of Jay's rough, without mod. Can only guess at his thought process on it. Perhaps just absurdity, playing on the name of the fairly new high-profile plane

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLBCgC8x/rebell-jet-rough.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 04, 2020, 11:44:39 AM
This one is confusing to me...Rebell Schlockheed Dumbo Jet 746 1/2 compared to a Revell jet model...? The jet on the parody looks like a military craft, so I thought it was the Lockheed jet real product image I found, but it's not a Jumbo Jet 747. That would be a Boeing commercial passenger jet. Can someone help make sense of this?

(https://i.postimg.cc/v41hxFHm/rebeljet-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v41hxFHm)(https://i.postimg.cc/sBYp5VF3/Revell-model1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBYp5VF3)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9QR4WYm/Revell-model2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9QR4WYm)
This may just be one of those cases where a better match exists, but it doesn’t turn up in a Google search because maybe there aren’t any hobbyist websites that photo-catalogued the whole product line.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 04, 2020, 12:51:52 PM
some similarities with their  older packaging of the F-84F model

(https://i.postimg.cc/CL7fYVyW/29738697-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on July 04, 2020, 01:02:59 PM
Feel compelled to post the classic gif

           (https://i.imgur.com/iT1HEyB.gif)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 04, 2020, 01:07:41 PM
Feel compelled to post the classic gif

           (https://i.imgur.com/iT1HEyB.gif)

One of the best ever!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 04, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
looks like a straight rendition of Jay's rough, without mod. Can only guess at his thought process on it. Perhaps just absurdity, playing on the name of the fairly new high-profile plane

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLBCgC8x/rebell-jet-rough.jpg)
Patrick, do you think that 747 should be added to the real name on the Spreadsheet?

If so, then go ahead.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on July 04, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
Balding was the first Wacky I pulled from a reissue pack, in 1980.  I had to look at the checklist to see if these titles were new or recycled.

Moldy Bride won a footnote place in history by providing the decisive question in a Wacky jeopardy game (the wording on the bride's sash/bouquet tag). The question was so obscure that the losing contestant reportedly just said, "Game over."

Since her face is partly obscured by her veil, the artists seem to have done everything else to make the bride appear unattractive--the cigarette, the huge feet, the mold, etc. And anyone who would pick a bouquet from a patch marked "Danger--Poison Ivy" would be none too swift.

Side note: I always wondered how many people subscribed to this magazine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 05, 2020, 01:04:33 PM
Messquire and Esquire magazines. I do like how the dot icon above the letter i was changed to a pig

(https://i.postimg.cc/F1DFq39c/messquire-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1DFq39c)(https://i.postimg.cc/JGHwqktR/Esquire3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGHwqktR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 07, 2020, 07:32:27 AM
OK...another magazine. The Magazine of Fanatical and Sickly Fiction compared to The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction...

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMGptQ0t/fanatical-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMGptQ0t)(https://i.postimg.cc/mtd4PfvX/Magazine-of-Fantasy-and-Sci-Fi.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtd4PfvX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 07, 2020, 10:37:11 AM
Why would anyone like this?

Just kidding, Patrick!  :]

The tentacle and anthropomorphic moon are nice touches.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 07, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
and there it is, the best looking Wacky of them all  :great:

that August 1975 issue is certainly a fun coincidence with its 'face in a planet' relative to when the Wacky was released, but the consensus timeline for 14th series makes it pretty much impossible to be an inspiration.

speaking of dates, that's an oddity on this one, where the spine has 1974, but the cover has 1998. Whoever put down the letraset date didn't notice what Norm had painted, or maybe thought it would be better if it was 'in the far-future'. The story title also looks made up by Topps, (Jay had author's names) and to me is rather lame.

Probably the closest of all the Wackys to Saunders older work on pulp magazine covers. It stays close to Jay's rough, but it's very much his own look.

I find no F&SF that match the image, but there are two much older ones (1963, 1953) that have similarities

(https://i.postimg.cc/rp88ZDQ7/FSFApr1963.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/W3yT4XTP/FSFJun1953.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on July 07, 2020, 06:32:15 PM
I remember Jay explaining that on his rough the planet was supposed to be a yellow smiley face, but was lost in translation for the final painting.


and there it is, the best looking Wacky of them all  :great:

that August 1975 issue is certainly a fun coincidence with its 'face in a planet' relative to when the Wacky was released, but the consensus timeline for 14th series makes it pretty much impossible to be an inspiration.

speaking of dates, that's an oddity on this one, where the spine has 1974, but the cover has 1998. Whoever put down the letraset date didn't notice what Norm had painted, or maybe thought it would be better if it was 'in the far-future'. The story title also looks made up by Topps, (Jay had author's names) and to me is rather lame.

Probably the closest of all the Wackys to Saunders older work on pulp magazine covers. It stays close to Jay's rough, but it's very much his own look.

I find no F&SF that match the image, but there are two much older ones (1963, 1953) that have similarities

(https://i.postimg.cc/rp88ZDQ7/FSFApr1963.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/W3yT4XTP/FSFJun1953.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 08, 2020, 05:18:45 AM
and there it is, the best looking Wacky of them all  :great:

that August 1975 issue is certainly a fun coincidence with its 'face in a planet' relative to when the Wacky was released, but the consensus timeline for 14th series makes it pretty much impossible to be an inspiration.

speaking of dates, that's an oddity on this one, where the spine has 1974, but the cover has 1998. Whoever put down the letraset date didn't notice what Norm had painted, or maybe thought it would be better if it was 'in the far-future'. The story title also looks made up by Topps, (Jay had author's names) and to me is rather lame.

Probably the closest of all the Wackys to Saunders older work on pulp magazine covers. It stays close to Jay's rough, but it's very much his own look.

I find no F&SF that match the image, but there are two much older ones (1963, 1953) that have similarities

(https://i.postimg.cc/rp88ZDQ7/FSFApr1963.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/W3yT4XTP/FSFJun1953.jpg)

That 1953 cover is definitely a better match! Norm probably used a lot of covers as inspiration.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 10, 2020, 06:38:13 AM
Ain't compared to Aim toothpaste...

(https://i.postimg.cc/njr6cfWv/aint-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njr6cfWv)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK/Aim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H/Aim2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 10, 2020, 12:54:16 PM
Ain't compared to Aim toothpaste...

(https://i.postimg.cc/njr6cfWv/aint-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njr6cfWv)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK/Aim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H/Aim2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H)
Nice middle-of-the-road Wacky.  Nothing especially funny about the gags but very well rendered including the spillage.  I give it an extra star because there aren’t that many toothpaste Wackys in the OS run for whatever reason.  Crest/Creep, Ultra Blight, Choke-Up and the fugazy Decay are the only others I can think of.  Probably far fewer brands back then too though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on July 10, 2020, 02:07:50 PM
I give it an extra star because there aren’t that many toothpaste Wackys in the OS run for whatever reason.  Crest/Creep, Ultra Blight, Choke-Up and the fugazy Decay are the only others I can think of.  Probably far fewer brands back then too though.
After glancing thru the list, only Crust and Gloom besides the ones you mentioned. Never really thought about it much, but toothpastes weren't hit much in the OS.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 10, 2020, 02:17:06 PM
Mostly very bland packaging on toothpastes back then too.  I remember as a kid the only thing we were taught was to pick a brand with the little fluoride logo so you knew it was a legit toothpaste.  Now you’ve got peroxide, baking soda, whitening crystals, mouthwash-infused, etc., it never ends.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on July 10, 2020, 03:18:32 PM
but very well rendered including the spillage. 
personally ranked this one somewhat high, as that blue-green goop with the fly is great, and the shading on the tube.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 10, 2020, 11:29:59 PM
personally ranked this one somewhat high, as that blue-green goop with the fly is great, and the shading on the tube.

I like this one for the goop and fly, too.  Also that the end is rolled up.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 12, 2020, 06:25:36 AM
Battletime and Ballantine beers compared...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXTXh9qy/battletime-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXTXh9qy)(https://i.postimg.cc/XXrybJ4s/Ballantine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXrybJ4s)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: cmgmd on July 12, 2020, 08:00:19 AM
Newark, NJ's finest brew
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 12, 2020, 09:38:26 AM
Now that’s a low key Wacky to rival Sugarmess.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 12, 2020, 12:31:15 PM
Now that’s a low key Wacky to rival Sugarmess.
It may be low key in terms of not adding a goofy character, but for me in this case its simplicity is part of its charm.  The can graphics are cool enough to make it work.  I just would have tried to come up with something better than “it’ll make you burp”, something more in line with the wrestling/battling theme.  Maybe “Premium Combat Beer”, something like that.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on July 12, 2020, 01:33:47 PM
I just would have tried to come up with something better than “it’ll make you burp”, something more in line with the wrestling/battling theme.  Maybe “Premium Combat Beer”, something like that.

They also missed out on changing the text in red at the bottom of the can.   A lot could have been done with "brewed with high quality malt, selected grains, and other premium ingredients."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 12, 2020, 01:42:39 PM
With a title like Battletime, I would have loved to see a bunch of dents on the parody can, like it's been through a battle. Similar to how they "beat up" the Bent cigarettes package on that parody.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 12, 2020, 08:06:21 PM
With a title like Battletime, I would have loved to see a bunch of dents on the parody can, like it's been through a battle. Similar to how they "beat up" the Bent cigarettes package on that parody.
They could have also replaced the little wheat pics with tiny weapons, skull and crossbones, bandages, etc.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 13, 2020, 07:43:43 AM
Satan Wrap and Saran Wrap...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bZnkDLjV/satanwrap-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZnkDLjV)(https://i.postimg.cc/PL4LYRVy/Saran-Wrap.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PL4LYRVy)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on July 13, 2020, 11:02:04 AM
"You'll have a devil of a time using this."

How true!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 13, 2020, 11:22:12 AM
"You'll have a devil of a time using this."

How true!

Agreed!  I like this Wacky (and hate plastic wrap!).  I have had times where the wrap just gets stuck together and I want to throw the whole box out.  Saran Wrap has made me say "Hell" many times!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 13, 2020, 07:22:41 PM
I don’t use plastic wrap all that often, but the key to avoid having it stick to itself is to stretch it over the top of the bowl you’re sealing before you tear it away from the roll.  Aluminum foil can be torn first, but not this stuff.

As for the Wacky, would it have made more sense to have ol’ Beelzebub himself as the character rather than a consumer with devil horns?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 14, 2020, 04:36:43 AM
I don’t use plastic wrap all that often, but the key to avoid having it stick to itself is to stretch it over the top of the bowl you’re sealing before you tear it away from the roll.  Aluminum foil can be torn first, but not this stuff.

As for the Wacky, would it have made more sense to have ol’ Beelzebub himself as the character rather than a consumer with devil horns?  Just a thought.

I generally only use plastic wrap for food I'm going to freeze, so I have to cut it first, then wrap, which used to lead to scraped fingers.  Trying to limit shopping trips, I have gotten much better at this - my process now is to clear off the glass stovetop, put some already opened up freezer bags at the back, pull out wrap to the right size, and use scissors instead of the box to cut the wrap.  That also has the advantage of leaving some extra hanging wrap to pull on for the next piece.  Tightly wrap up a piece of chicken, steak, or a burger, and repeat, then stick the wrapped pieces in a bag, label and freeze.  Works great to prevent freezer burn for both raw and cooked meat.  You can defrost only as many pieces as you need for a meal, which is faster than defrosting a big package, and you can usually reuse the freezer bags. 

Enough of Pat's kitchen tips - I think Beelzebub would have been a great character on this Wacky!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 14, 2020, 08:57:17 PM
Oscar the Mayor Baloney and Oscar Mayer Bologna.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7G8NpG1b/oscarmayor-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7G8NpG1b)(https://i.postimg.cc/xkTkq00g/Oscar-Mayer1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkTkq00g)(https://i.postimg.cc/hJxK7z5b/index.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJxK7z5b)(https://i.postimg.cc/wypg5xKK/uo-1499039123-21095-38.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wypg5xKK)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 14, 2020, 11:11:36 PM
Had I seen the 14th back in ‘75 I probably would have loved this one based on the product familiarity (who doesn’t remember the commercial and catchy jingle?), though I suspect the political gag might have gone over my head. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on July 15, 2020, 01:41:51 PM
I always thought this one looked like a red 45 rpm record on a blister pack.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 15, 2020, 02:02:18 PM
I always thought this one looked like a red 45 rpm record on a blister pack.

I did, as well, but though it was a 78rpm with the small hole in the center and the groves. I always wondered if I was missing a record reference or something.  It sure appears it's intended that the record title is HOT AIR and the artist is Oscar Mayor.  It's almost like it's missing a tag line that brings it all together, like "The Mayor speaks on the record" or some such.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on July 15, 2020, 02:08:39 PM
I did, as well, but though it was a 78rpm with the small hole in the center and the groves. I always wondered if I was missing a record reference or something.  It sure appears it's intended that the record title is HOT AIR and the artist is Oscar Mayor.  It's almost like it's missing a tag line that brings it all together, like "The Mayor speaks on the record" or some such.

Isn't the "Campaign Speeches" at the top sort of what you're looking for?  I've always liked this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on July 15, 2020, 06:23:05 PM
Ain't compared to Aim toothpaste...

(https://i.postimg.cc/njr6cfWv/aint-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njr6cfWv)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK/Aim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0yMfHzK)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H/Aim2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MKcBk3H)
Little late responding but I always loved this one.  I love the gag line "This Ain't Toothpaste, it's Sticky Glue to Shut Your Mouth".  Made me laugh out loud when I was a kid and saw it for the first time!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 17, 2020, 07:56:17 AM
Canquit and Banquet Pies...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F17wWwVY/canquit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F17wWwVY)(https://i.postimg.cc/47bvBf2D/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47bvBf2D)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 17, 2020, 07:11:20 PM
Canquit and Banquet Pies...

(https://i.postimg.cc/F17wWwVY/canquit-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F17wWwVY)(https://i.postimg.cc/47bvBf2D/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47bvBf2D)
My first exposure to Series 14 came at the big NJ show in 1997 where a dealer had $5 unopened packs of 14, 15 and 16.  I was mainly interested in 15 but bought a few packs from the other series too.  When I opened the first 14th pack, I think this was the first card staring back at me.  Gotta admit, it creeped me out a little, that scrawny dead chicken.  But a good Wacky nonetheless.  The rendering has an almost Norman Rockwell-like quality to it, as if the packaging is from the 40’s or 50’s.  Like the vibe.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 20, 2020, 03:38:13 PM
Sealva Thins and Silva Thins. Anyone else think that the cigarettes should have been skinny little fishes?

(https://i.postimg.cc/hJvL05Tq/sealva-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJvL05Tq)(https://i.postimg.cc/7GTSFJKs/Silva-Thins.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GTSFJKs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on July 20, 2020, 04:41:40 PM
Sealva Thins and Silva Thins. Anyone else think that the cigarettes should have been skinny little fishes?


This is one of the most unremarkable Wackies for me. Every time I run across it, it’s like discovering a new one... and being disappointed. In all fairness, next to nothing to work with one the original packaging.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on July 20, 2020, 07:54:23 PM
Thanks. This is another where I was not familiar with the original product. Since I saw the Wacky first it's like the Wacky is more real to me than the actual product.


Sealva Thins and Silva Thins. Anyone else think that the cigarettes should have been skinny little fishes?

(https://i.postimg.cc/hJvL05Tq/sealva-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJvL05Tq)(https://i.postimg.cc/7GTSFJKs/Silva-Thins.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GTSFJKs)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Brian Mc on July 20, 2020, 08:44:09 PM
I've always liked this one. What's not to love about a cigarette-smoking seal? Agree with Scot - nothing to work with from the original package.

And yes, the cigarettes should have been tiny little fishes.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 20, 2020, 08:59:13 PM
Thanks. This is another where I was not familiar with the original product. Since I saw the Wacky first it's like the Wacky is more real to me than the actual product.
Agree there are lots of examples of that in OS 1-16, but the biggest standout that always comes to mind for me is My Sink perfume.  A cube-shaped bottle filled with crap?  Had no clue what I was looking at.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 21, 2020, 03:54:43 PM
Sell'em, compared to Sailem from series 2, compared to Salem cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhy2gpxB/sellem-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhy2gpxB)(https://i.postimg.cc/Cn1tYKTZ/sailem-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cn1tYKTZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/4Yt0XMM1/Salem.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Yt0XMM1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 21, 2020, 07:25:09 PM
In the realm of repeat OS parodies the earliest usually rates as most popular, but in this case I think Sell ‘Em is the much better Wacky.  Just not much going on with Sailem. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 23, 2020, 04:59:38 PM
Taffy and Tabby cat food...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKM8Dkbm/taffy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKM8Dkbm)(https://i.postimg.cc/T5R2xtDP/Tabby.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5R2xtDP)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 23, 2020, 05:38:23 PM
Taffy and Tabby cat food...

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKM8Dkbm/taffy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKM8Dkbm)(https://i.postimg.cc/T5R2xtDP/Tabby.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5R2xtDP)

If I remember correctly, this title was one of a very few color images in Roxanne Toser’s “The Beat Goes On”, the first published book devoted entirely to Wacky Packages.  I’ve mentally linked the two ever since.  As far as critique, I’d say it’s an average Wacky - not bad, not great.  Add a star if you’re a cat owner.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on July 23, 2020, 05:41:26 PM
Sell'em, compared to Sailem from series 2, compared to Salem cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhy2gpxB/sellem-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhy2gpxB)(https://i.postimg.cc/Cn1tYKTZ/sailem-white-front-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cn1tYKTZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/4Yt0XMM1/Salem.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Yt0XMM1)

I don't know wxactly why, but I always loved Sail 'em when I was a kid.  It's odd, because there is no goofy character or cool toy on it.  I guess the simplicity got me.  But this is defintely my favorite non character Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 25, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Nose-X compared to Kleenex. It's a nicely illustrated parody, but the parody name is horrible!

I would have made the parody a little closer to the real product name.

Something like Queen-Ex would have been funny. Show a dethroned queen sobbing, using the tissues for tears as she is kicked out of the palace.

(https://i.postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz/nose-x-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz)(https://i.postimg.cc/30F8MKFW/Kleenex2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30F8MKFW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 25, 2020, 01:47:54 PM
Nose-X compared to Kleenex. It's a nicely illustrated parody, but the parody name is horrible!

I would have made the parody a little closer to the real product name.

Something like Queen-Ex would have been funny. Show a dethroned queen sobbing, using the tissues for tears as she is kicked out of the palace.

(https://i.postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz/nose-x-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz)(https://i.postimg.cc/30F8MKFW/Kleenex2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30F8MKFW)
I still can’t believe it’s Kleenex they’re spoofing based on the parody name, but the font looks the same, so go figure.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on July 25, 2020, 06:19:44 PM
Nose-X compared to Kleenex. It's a nicely illustrated parody, but the parody name is horrible!

I would have made the parody a little closer to the real product name.

Something like Queen-Ex would have been funny. Show a dethroned queen sobbing, using the tissues for tears as she is kicked out of the palace.

(https://i.postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz/nose-x-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1TvpsPz)(https://i.postimg.cc/30F8MKFW/Kleenex2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30F8MKFW)

This has always gotten my vote for most obscure Wacky. I may have mentioned that long ago, but other than that, I can't remember a single reference to it on any of the Forums going back to 1999. Few people would remember it from the original run, and it's not likely to be chosen as a Forum name. But it does get points for the character and the messy wad on top.

Is it possible that the name was intended to slip one past the censors? Even then it wouldn't make much sense, but it might be mildly titillating to fourth graders.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on July 25, 2020, 07:09:57 PM
Is it possible that the name was intended to slip one past the censors? Even then it wouldn't make much sense, but it might be mildly titillating to fourth graders.

That's a good catch!  I never thought of that.  Of course I don't remember this series at all as a kid.

It reminds me of the time at work that the web site Experts-Exchange.com was blocked.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 27, 2020, 07:52:03 AM
This has always gotten my vote for most obscure Wacky. I may have mentioned that long ago, but other than that, I can't remember a single reference to it on any of the Forums going back to 1999. Few people would remember it from the original run, and it's not likely to be chosen as a Forum name. But it does get points for the character and the messy wad on top.

Is it possible that the name was intended to slip one past the censors? Even then it wouldn't make much sense, but it might be mildly titillating to fourth graders.

Looking over the parody, it almost seems like the parody joke centers around....self pleasuring? No Sex! The guy on the box has a big smile on his face, and the tagline on the bottom "pops up automatically." Maybe I'm looking into it too much. LOL!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on July 30, 2020, 12:29:32 PM
Snort vs Sport magazine...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vdy5LbqC/snort-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vdy5LbqC)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDjNPQwm/Sport-magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDjNPQwm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on July 30, 2020, 05:51:18 PM
Ok Wacky I guess, but the title ‘Snort’ brings a different kind of substance abuse to mind....

Can’t go there with a kiddie audience, I get it.  Just sayin’.  There are quite a few Wackys with drunkenness themes, I guess that’s as far out there as they could go.  Probably explains why there’s no magazine parody for High Times.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on July 30, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
Long before drugs were around to snort, having a sip of whisky was know as a snort or a belt, just to name a few.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on July 30, 2020, 07:57:22 PM
Snort vs Sport magazine...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vdy5LbqC/snort-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vdy5LbqC)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDjNPQwm/Sport-magazine.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDjNPQwm)
Well, whaddya know? Doctor Octopus with four extra real arms is on a magazine cover!

I didn't know he could play basketball as well as be a supervillain! Lost a lot of weight and ditched the dark glasses too, lol!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Alexeirex on July 30, 2020, 08:09:34 PM
Long before drugs were around to snort, having a sip of whisky was know as a snort or a belt, just to name a few.


Jim

I've heard it referred to as a snoot, or a snootfull also - but maybe that was my bad hearing....
A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 02, 2020, 05:30:17 AM
Fearasil and Clearasil...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hzwqqv9g/fearasil-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzwqqv9g)(https://i.postimg.cc/4H9R4G5c/Clearasil.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4H9R4G5c)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 02, 2020, 02:37:42 PM
First, kudos on the perfectly matching real product image.

This has always been a sort of overlooked Wacky for me, never having particularly liked or hated it.  But contrasting it with the real product image now increases my appreciation of it.  The drippy black and red background stripes are an excellent embellishment.  Makes me think of the film The Shining.  Add the cute little witch and it’s a nice horror-themed Wacky.  Thumbs up for Fearasil!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on August 02, 2020, 05:34:41 PM
And it looks like they conveniently left plenty of room on the bottom of the tube to add a witch!

First, kudos on the perfectly matching real product image.

This has always been a sort of overlooked Wacky for me, never having particularly liked or hated it.  But contrasting it with the real product image now increases my appreciation of it.  The drippy black and red background stripes are an excellent embellishment.  Makes me think of the film The Shining.  Add the cute little witch and it’s a nice horror-themed Wacky.  Thumbs up for Fearasil!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 03, 2020, 08:58:39 AM
And it looks like they conveniently left plenty of room on the bottom of the tube to add a witch!
Wow, didn’t notice that.  Kind of peculiar even for then.  By today’s standards would probably never happen.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 05, 2020, 04:54:15 AM
Polarbearoid compared to Polaroid film. Film type 107 to be exact. They made they best out of a boring real package with that nice bear illustration

(https://i.postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq/polarbearoid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq)(https://i.postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6/s-l1600-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 05, 2020, 06:02:25 AM
Polarbearoid compared to Polaroid film. Film type 107 to be exact. They made they best out of a boring real package with that nice bear illustration

(https://i.postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq/polarbearoid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq)(https://i.postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6/s-l1600-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6)

Wow, this has to be the most impressive makeover from any product.  There is literally nothing on the box!  Great vision and great artwork to get this Wacky completed.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on August 05, 2020, 06:12:07 AM
Wow, this has to be the most impressive makeover from any product.  There is literally nothing on the box!  Great vision and great artwork to get this Wacky completed.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on August 05, 2020, 10:35:43 AM
I think it you looked through all 16 OS you'd find plenty of other examples, but maybe not as dramatic.  The very first one I remember seeing is Gadzooka in series 1.  It's an example of nothing on the packaging but a great character add.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 05, 2020, 11:20:31 AM
I think it you looked through all 16 OS you'd find plenty of other examples, but maybe not as dramatic.  The very first one I remember seeing is Gadzooka in series 1.  It's an example of nothing on the packaging but a great character add.
Probably the complete absence of color in the real product puts this one in a special class.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 06, 2020, 07:21:08 AM
Irish Ring and Irish Spring...

(https://i.postimg.cc/T5qKhX3p/irishring-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5qKhX3p)(https://i.postimg.cc/6Td2MCft/Irish-Spring.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6Td2MCft)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 06, 2020, 01:15:34 PM
You doesn't love, "our prices be Dublin"?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 09, 2020, 07:04:43 AM
Totarillo compared to Tiparillo.

I also included the inspiration for Norm Saunders baby illustration - Raining on Baby New Year by J C Leyendecker, used on the December 31st, 1927 cover of the Saturday Evening Post.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LJN2xD5J/totarillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJN2xD5J)(https://i.postimg.cc/Q95MY7vv/Tiparillo1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q95MY7vv)(https://i.postimg.cc/QK3d2t3C/Tiparillo2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QK3d2t3C)(https://i.postimg.cc/tnN4pjq5/Raining-on-baby-new-year-by-J-C-Leyendecker.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnN4pjq5)(https://i.postimg.cc/14GtppGq/12-31-1927-Sat-Eve-Post.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14GtppGq)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on August 09, 2020, 11:59:48 AM
Totarillo compared to Tiparillo.

I also included the inspiration for Norm Saunders baby illustration - Raining on Baby New Year by J C Leyendecker, used on the December 31st, 1927 cover of the Saturday Evening Post.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LJN2xD5J/totarillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJN2xD5J)(https://i.postimg.cc/Q95MY7vv/Tiparillo1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q95MY7vv)(https://i.postimg.cc/QK3d2t3C/Tiparillo2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QK3d2t3C)(https://i.postimg.cc/tnN4pjq5/Raining-on-baby-new-year-by-J-C-Leyendecker.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnN4pjq5)(https://i.postimg.cc/14GtppGq/12-31-1927-Sat-Eve-Post.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14GtppGq)
I take it the "A" in the third photo stands for "Aromatic", am I right?

I just want to know so I can tell Patrick (Fanatical and Sickly) so he can put it on the Spreadsheet.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 10, 2020, 11:56:28 AM
If the speculation about the possible hidden joke of Nose-Ex is in fact accurate, then Totarillo would be a second example in the 14th where the humor would fly right over the head of the average Wacky-chasing kid.  The Saturday Evening Post cover inspiration looks plausible, but the question is why?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 12, 2020, 08:12:58 AM
IOU and OUI magazines. I couldn't decide which real cover I liked the most to compare. They're all good  :]

(https://i.postimg.cc/1gZhmLng/iou-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1gZhmLng)(https://i.postimg.cc/RN3jcMw6/Oui1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN3jcMw6)(https://i.postimg.cc/fJ61C6vH/Oui2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJ61C6vH)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on August 12, 2020, 12:46:36 PM
IOU and OUI magazines. I couldn't decide which real cover I liked the most to compare. They're all good  :]

(https://i.postimg.cc/1gZhmLng/iou-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1gZhmLng)(https://i.postimg.cc/RN3jcMw6/Oui1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN3jcMw6)(https://i.postimg.cc/fJ61C6vH/Oui2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJ61C6vH)
   


I'm not so sure either, I think I need a bigger sampling.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 12, 2020, 04:52:15 PM
The Oui magazine has its origins as a sister magazine, for lack of a better word, to Playboy.  Both were part of the Hefner publishing empire.  And like Playboy, it was also somewhat tastefully done in the 70s, compared to other adult magazines of the era.  I think by the early to mid-80’s it was sold off and no longer had that pedigree.  In any case, curiously both titles are parodied in the 14th.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 14, 2020, 07:43:26 AM
Duxie compared to Dixie cups, along with the 11th series Dizzie Cups...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGYy9R8y/duxie-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGYy9R8y)(https://i.postimg.cc/G8HbZhH6/dizzle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8HbZhH6)(https://i.postimg.cc/Mff3kg0W/Dixie-Cups1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mff3kg0W)(https://i.postimg.cc/NLKzr23W/Dixie-Cups2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLKzr23W)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 14, 2020, 05:28:37 PM
Duxie compared to Dixie cups, along with the 11th series Dizzie Cups...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGYy9R8y/duxie-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGYy9R8y)(https://i.postimg.cc/G8HbZhH6/dizzle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8HbZhH6)(https://i.postimg.cc/Mff3kg0W/Dixie-Cups1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mff3kg0W)(https://i.postimg.cc/NLKzr23W/Dixie-Cups2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLKzr23W)
Neither parody is spectacular, but the product packaging, graphics and colors are so vibrant that it makes the parodies worthwhile nonetheless, sort of like Bathless Ribbons and Shrunken Donuts - not the funniest but visually awesome.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 14, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
Neither parody is spectacular, but the product packaging, graphics and colors are so vibrant that it makes the parodies worthwhile nonetheless, sort of like Bathless Ribbons and Shrunken Donuts - not the funniest but visually awesome.

Upon looking at the real packaging, the artist used the side panel for Dizzie but the front panel for Duxie.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 14, 2020, 08:45:04 PM
Upon closer inspection of Dizzie, it would appear the box used to make the parody was half the width (50 cups, single stack) as that used for Duxie (100 cups, double stack), which looks the same as the real product in terms of box shape.  This may be why the two parodies are inconsistent.  In the narrow box, the equal dimensions make it unclear what side of the box should be considered the front panel, and the graphics are similar enough that they don’t help you either.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 18, 2020, 01:28:40 PM
Mrs. Poles Fishing Sticks compared to Mrs Paul's Fish Sticks...

(https://i.postimg.cc/949KRnjf/mrspoles-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/949KRnjf)(https://i.postimg.cc/dhkSpx39/Mrs-Paul-s-Fish-Sticks.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhkSpx39)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on August 18, 2020, 03:50:05 PM
Now THIS is something!


Polarbearoid compared to Polaroid film. Film type 107 to be exact. They made they best out of a boring real package with that nice bear illustration

(https://i.postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq/polarbearoid-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1KDp9kq)(https://i.postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6/s-l1600-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJ85BcC6)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 18, 2020, 06:04:02 PM
Mrs. Poles Fishing Sticks compared to Mrs Paul's Fish Sticks...

(https://i.postimg.cc/949KRnjf/mrspoles-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/949KRnjf)(https://i.postimg.cc/dhkSpx39/Mrs-Paul-s-Fish-Sticks.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhkSpx39)
Probably my overall favorite from the 14th.  Great artwork that pops without the need for character embellishment (nothing against characters of course).  Fishing was a favorite summer activity of mine growing up, and the tree branch fishing poles remind me of the bamboo rods I would see kids using when fishing from piers or in small ponds.  Some of that fishing was so simple that the rods shown here would have worked just fine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on August 19, 2020, 08:34:43 AM
Not one that registered very much with me, but I appreciate hearing how you appreciate it. Makes me give it a second look.

Probably my overall favorite from the 14th.  Great artwork that pops without the need for character embellishment (nothing against characters of course).  Fishing was a favorite summer activity of mine growing up, and the tree branch fishing poles remind me of the bamboo rods I would see kids using when fishing from piers or in small ponds.  Some of that fishing was so simple that the rods shown here would have worked just fine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 19, 2020, 11:03:53 AM
I also have a propensity for titles where the product contents themselves play a role in the parody, like the drunken peanuts of Plastered, the little mints becoming explosives in Dynamites and Tic Toc, and so forth.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on August 19, 2020, 12:32:28 PM
Same. I would also include contents that are beyond the actual product, like Lavirus, Gillo, Log Cave-in

I also have a propensity for titles where the product contents themselves play a role in the parody, like the drunken peanuts of Plastered, the little mints becoming explosives in Dynamites and Tic Toc, and so forth.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 19, 2020, 12:38:42 PM
Yes...or My Sink perfume, which is one of my favorite floating flotsam and jetsam vintage titles. I love the Dave Gross' Players Peanuts in the most recent wednesday weekly series, showing the colorful dice and poker chips in the jar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 19, 2020, 05:08:06 PM
My Sink makes me think of that Little Rascals episode where the kids threw a shoe, a belt, and other assorted crap into a cake batter, then baking it.  Weep-Wow!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 23, 2020, 06:28:57 AM
Weakinson Sore compared to Wilkinson Sword blades. I love how the three cannon balls in the parody art were strategically placed to represent the three holes on the real product!

(https://i.postimg.cc/w72Z3MDT/weakinson-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w72Z3MDT)(https://i.postimg.cc/PLgF0wnK/Wilkinson-Sword-Blades.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLgF0wnK)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on August 23, 2020, 08:25:08 AM
Weakinson Sore compared to Wilkinson Sword blades. I love how the three cannon balls in the parody art were strategically placed to represent the three holes on the real product!


It’s those little touches that make Wackys special.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 23, 2020, 04:25:37 PM
Weakinson Sore compared to Wilkinson Sword blades. I love how the three cannon balls in the parody art were strategically placed to represent the three holes on the real product!

(https://i.postimg.cc/w72Z3MDT/weakinson-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w72Z3MDT)(https://i.postimg.cc/PLgF0wnK/Wilkinson-Sword-Blades.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLgF0wnK)
I had no idea there was a version of the real product with the similar graphics.  Generally speaking razor blade packaging is usually very drab even today.

As far as the parody, this is a Saunders lover’s dream piece.  Multiple soldiers and horses, what else could you ask for?  I also have a new appreciation for this after seeing the image slightly enlarged.  Really amazing work.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 25, 2020, 06:22:10 AM
Playbug and Playboy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw/playbug-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw)(https://i.postimg.cc/r0LckZx0/Playboy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0LckZx0)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on August 25, 2020, 09:30:46 AM
It just occurred to me that this entire thread would have been so much better if the Wacky and Real product images were uploaded together as one image like this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/G4x96q0y/weakinson-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4x96q0y)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 25, 2020, 02:17:29 PM
Playbug and Playboy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw/playbug-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw)(https://i.postimg.cc/r0LckZx0/Playboy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0LckZx0)
Of all the OS 1-16 titles and complete series that totally eluded me from 1973-75, I have to say IOU and Playbug were the only ones that really surprised me.  Who would have thought a kiddie product like Wackys would venture out into adult magazines territory, albeit without getting really risqué?  And Fleer Crazy Covers did “Henhouse” (Penthouse) too.  Crazy! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on August 25, 2020, 05:11:23 PM
Playbug and Playboy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw/playbug-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1nMCwgw)(https://i.postimg.cc/r0LckZx0/Playboy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0LckZx0)


Once again, i'm going to need a bigger sampling.


jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 26, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Swiski’s done an excellent job finding magazine issues which are decent approximate matches and align with the timeframe of the parody, and this is a good example.  Shorts Illustrated was another.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 27, 2020, 04:44:18 AM
Swiski’s done an excellent job finding magazine issues which are decent approximate matches and align with the timeframe of the parody, and this is a good example.  Shorts Illustrated was another.

Thank you! Magazines are the toughest to match up since none of them parody a specific issue. So I look for real covers that either have the title and background in similar colors, or the people on the cover in a somewhat similar pose on the parody.

Speaking of Playbug and the correct timeframe...it's strange that the Playbug parody was from 1975, but the date on the cover is 1984. A vision from the future where bugs with human bodies replace human beings? To me, the parody artwork mixes the movies The Fly with Planet of the Apes. What's with the message in the bottle?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 27, 2020, 10:27:01 AM
Thank you! Magazines are the toughest to match up since none of them parody a specific issue. So I look for real covers that either have the title and background in similar colors, or the people on the cover in a somewhat similar pose on the parody.

A vision from the future where bugs with human bodies replace human beings? To me, the parody artwork mixes the movies The Fly with Planet of the Apes. What's with the message in the bottle?
Understood, sometimes matching the cover’s color scheme is as close as you can get, like the Sport magazine issue you posted.

Interesting take on the bug head - other than the obvious in servicing the parody, the hybrid beach bunny does conjure up imagery somewhere between David Lynch and David Cronenberg cinematic visions lol.  Message in the bottle is probably some kind of inside joke we weren’t meant to figure out.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on August 27, 2020, 10:50:19 AM
The insect symbol on the paper is possibly an homage to the way the rabbit ears were always ‘hidden in plain site’ on the actual covers.
The original rough appears that it had a note to explain it, but it’s cut off

(http://john-manns-wacky-site.com/roughs/pictures/playbug.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on August 27, 2020, 11:12:48 AM
Thank you! Magazines are the toughest to match up since none of them parody a specific issue. So I look for real covers that either have the title and background in similar colors, or the people on the cover in a somewhat similar pose on the parody.

Speaking of Playbug and the correct timeframe...it's strange that the Playbug parody was from 1975, but the date on the cover is 1984. A vision from the future where bugs with human bodies replace human beings? To me, the parody artwork mixes the movies The Fly with Planet of the Apes. What's with the message in the bottle?
Right! All she needs is the insect leg for an arm, a la The Fly (1958) (btw, was that the left arm or the right arm? I can't remember).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Bigmuc13 on August 27, 2020, 12:00:17 PM
It just occurred to me that this entire thread would have been so much better if the Wacky and Real product images were uploaded together as one image like this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/G4x96q0y/weakinson-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4x96q0y)

That is great! Also, I wonder why they decided to have the guy in the front part of the sticker riding a horse without any shoes on!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on August 28, 2020, 05:13:59 AM
Slayer compared to Bayer aspirin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yDFb6tZM/slayer-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDFb6tZM)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MHtHqTw/Bayer.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MHtHqTw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on August 28, 2020, 03:06:33 PM
Ballistics and Wackys - perfect together!

Another great “product conversion” concept which I alluded to with Mrs. Pole’s - great rendering, another fantastic glass bottle, well-detailed aspirin bullets and a really funny little mobster character! Not much by way of gags, but who cares?  The visual more than makes up for it.

I read recently on Rusty’s site that the 3rd Series Reissues were basically color xerox copies from existing stickers, robbing that series of the more quality images that finished Wackys should have.  I was not aware of that, but I do remember many of the images from that set looking a bit ‘antiqued’, for lack of a better word.  Point being, I’ve never seen a Slayer with a high-quality image close-up.  Can’t remember if the Abrams book image for this title was scanned directly from the painting as opposed to also being second generation.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 01, 2020, 05:55:16 AM
Hippy compared to Heavy Trash Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz/hippy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz)(https://i.postimg.cc/rDn4PGtn/Hefty1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDn4PGtn)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1s6Q13X/Hefty2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1s6Q13X)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 02, 2020, 10:45:14 AM
Hippy compared to Heavy Trash Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz/hippy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz)(https://i.postimg.cc/rDn4PGtn/Hefty1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDn4PGtn)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1s6Q13X/Hefty2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1s6Q13X)
Easy to forget this is the second parody for Hefty, along with Heavy from the 10th.  I like how the real product has the Jonathan Winters uniformed character, which drives both parodies very well.  A nice basic Wacky with goofy character and funny enough taglines.  This title was also used in the ANS-era Flashbacks I believe.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 02, 2020, 11:29:01 AM
Easy to forget this is the second parody for Hefty, along with Heavy from the 10th.  I like how the real product has the Jonathan Winters uniformed character, which drives both parodies very well.  A nice basic Wacky with goofy character and funny enough taglines.  This title was also used in the ANS-era Flashbacks I believe.
I checked out the Flashbacks on the Master Spreadsheet. Hippy Trash Bags was in the first of the two series, Wacky Pack Flashback.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on September 02, 2020, 02:43:37 PM
Hippy compared to Heavy Trash Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz/hippy-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mf2VYWjz)
Note there is a light blue rectangle near the top of the image.  Didn't I read somewhere or maybe Jay posted one time that the original design said something about "Nickel Bags" there?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 02, 2020, 06:19:28 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me, they really laid it on thick with the hippie humor back then.  I guess in the 1974-75 timeframe, for those who were irritated or amused enough by the hippie lifestyle, the ‘Summer of Love’ was not yet that distant a memory.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 02, 2020, 06:39:10 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me, they really laid it on thick with the hippie humor back then.  I guess in the 1974-75 timeframe, for those who were irritated or amused enough by the hippie lifestyle, the ‘Summer of Love’ was not yet that distant a memory.
And then Charles Manson and his Family had to ruin the hippy lifestyle for everyone else in the world. In other words, they effectively killed it along with their unfortunate victims.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 02, 2020, 06:52:27 PM
I’ve been watching the Manson miniseries “Helter Skelter: An American Myth” on the Epix channel, which is very good.  Rather than focusing entirely on the Tate-LaBianca murders and trial as most previous documentaries have done, this one traces Manson’s early life and how the manipulation skills he developed in the prison system as a means of survival led to his cult-like dominance of the so-called Family members which were actually broken souls that he hand-picked.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 03, 2020, 12:39:08 PM
I’ve been watching the Manson miniseries “Helter Skelter: An American Myth” on the Epix channel, which is very good.

I agree; it's very good.  It certainly explains a lot on why he turned out like he did.  I think the last episode (6) was the end of the series.  I was amazed that the family members interviewed seemed normal now and even the ones that went to jail seemed to turn their lives around while incarcerated.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 03, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
I agree; it's very good.  It certainly explains a lot on why he turned out like he did.  I think the last episode (6) was the end of the series.  I was amazed that the family members interviewed seemed normal now and even the ones that went to jail seemed to turn their lives around while incarcerated.
I’ve watched all but the 6th and last episode.  It’s waiting on the DVR.

Agree those interviewed seem completely free of any lingering mental issues from having been under Manson’s influence.  Probably just good fortune for most of them, that Manson was ripped away from them after just a couple years, as opposed to someone who spends decades in a more organized and sophisticated cult environment.  The one member who I think has been incapable of breaking free from the mental chains is Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme.  Saw some stuff on the internet about her.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 04, 2020, 04:51:07 AM
Flunk compared to Fluff, along with the original parody Flopp from series 7...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ygXcqdNd/flunk-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygXcqdNd)(https://i.postimg.cc/143rxGp1/Fluff.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/143rxGp1)(https://i.postimg.cc/BX85bJYh/flopp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BX85bJYh)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 04, 2020, 05:00:15 PM
Like ‘em both but Flunk has better detailing in the glass jar, both the translucence of the glass and the dimpled surface detailing.  It also has that ‘fridge light’ illumination effect that’s been noted on a few other titles.  But what’s the deal with changing the painted scalloped pattern along the edge of the lid to that melty, drippy thing that’s going on there?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 04, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
Like ‘em both but Flunk has better detailing in the glass jar, both the translucence of the glass and the dimpled surface detailing.  It also has that ‘fridge light’ illumination effect that’s been noted on a few other titles.  But what’s the deal with changing the painted scalloped pattern along the edge of the lid to that melty, drippy thing that’s going on there?

Agreed, the lid is disappointing, but the glass jar, especially with the logo in it, is great.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 04, 2020, 06:08:56 PM
But what’s the deal with changing the painted scalloped pattern along the edge of the lid to that melty, drippy thing that’s going on there?

The whipped marshmallow (real product) is turning to mush (mushmallow)?  It would have made sense to continue that pattern all the way around the lid though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 04, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
The whipped marshmallow (real product) is turning to mush (mushmallow)?  It would have made sense to continue that pattern all the way around the lid though.
Yes, if it was oozing through from beneath the lid that would make sense, but the way it’s been painted it looks a bit odd.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on September 05, 2020, 06:20:01 AM
I think Fluff originated from my area of the country, too.

I don't mind the occasional marshmallow on ice cream sundaes, but otherwise,
never liked it.

That, and Underwood Deviled Ham, and my Mother always made both for
my older brother.  Just give me a nice PB&J, preferrably strawberry jelly.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 08, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
I think Fluff originated from my area of the country, too.

I don't mind the occasional marshmallow on ice cream sundaes, but otherwise,
never liked it.

That, and Underwood Deviled Ham, and my Mother always made both for
my older brother.  Just give me a nice PB&J, preferably strawberry jelly.
You're right. I never even heard of the Fluffernutter (Marshmallow Fluff and peanut butter on two slices of bread) until I got a CD of a record album called Tee Vee Toons: The Commercials (TVT Records 1989) and heard the Marshmallow Fluff jingle for it (called "If You Like Fluff Fluff Fluff") and it wasn't until later than that that I found out the sandwich was popular in the 1970s.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Alexeirex on September 08, 2020, 05:10:58 PM
There was always an old jar of Fluff at the corner grocery store, and that along with the equally dusty jar of clam juice always made me queasy looking at them. Wondered how long they sat on their shelves.
A
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 08, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
I could never figure out whether fluff ever had any widespread appeal or not.  I remember a few of my kiddie schoolmates talked about peanut butter & fluff sandwiches, but I never actually saw one, never tried it myself.  I even bought a jar several years back, because I had to try it and find out for myself if this stuff was any good.  So what happened?  It sat in the cupboard for a few years, ended up tossing it.  Some things are just not meant to be discovered lol.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on September 08, 2020, 07:54:24 PM
I could never figure out whether fluff ever had any widespread appeal or not.  I remember a few of my kiddie schoolmates talked about peanut butter & fluff sandwiches, but I never actually saw one, never tried it myself.  I even bought a jar several years back, because I had to try it and find out for myself if this stuff was any good.  So what happened?  It sat in the cupboard for a few years, ended up tossing it.  Some things are just not meant to be discovered lol.

I never tried it either, but it seemed like the kind of product that mostly appealed to moms, for ease and convenience.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 08, 2020, 09:00:12 PM
I never tried it either, but it seemed like the kind of product that mostly appealed to moms, for ease and convenience.
Now there is one combination I’m still determined to try one of these days - peanut butter and Nutella, a spreadable Reese’s peanut butter cup.  I’m expecting to be disappointed, because the Nutella has a strong hazelnut flavor too, which will probably screw up the combined taste, but it’s worth a shot.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 08, 2020, 09:30:49 PM
because the Nutella has a strong hazelnut flavor
One option would be to skip the Nutella and use Hershey’s spread instead with the PB.

Or just go straight to the horse’s mouth and get the Reese’s chocolate peanut butter spread. Just be careful not to eat the entire jar in one sitting.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 08, 2020, 11:06:22 PM
One option would be to skip the Nutella and use Hershey’s spread instead with the PB.

Or just go straight to the horse’s mouth and get the Reese’s chocolate peanut butter spread. Just be careful not to eat the entire jar in one sitting.
Hmmm, forgot Hershey’s made their own spread.  Reese’s I was not aware of, I thought that was just pure peanut butter.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 09, 2020, 03:10:43 AM
I believe Hershey is the US distributor for Cadbury.  I discovered Cadbury chocolate spread while in Scotland in the early 90's.  I brought home a jar, my daughter loved it, and then I couldn't find it in the US anywhere.  Of course Amazon has everything now, but it's not cheap.  https://www.amazon.com/Cadbury-Live-in-Morrisons-Chocolate/dp/B004G964R4
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 09, 2020, 02:03:14 PM
Finishing up Series 14 is Promesso compared to Progresso, along with the original 11th series Progreaso. I couldn't find the real sauce can, but I found similar Progresso products with the same design.

(https://i.postimg.cc/p5fMTrhp/promesso-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5fMTrhp)(https://i.postimg.cc/1fKZ1g1d/Progresso1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fKZ1g1d)(https://i.postimg.cc/3kJQ8KKx/Progresso2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kJQ8KKx)(https://i.postimg.cc/56WFkrf3/progreason-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56WFkrf3)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on September 09, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
I still call it Promesso when I see it in the grocery store
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 13, 2020, 07:34:44 PM
Kicking off the 15th series, here is Hacks compared to Halls cough drops...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pppky3j0/hacks-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Pppky3j0)(https://i.postimg.cc/t7qc9vwb/Halls1.png) (https://postimg.cc/t7qc9vwb)(https://i.postimg.cc/DmxM0d3X/Halls3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmxM0d3X)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 13, 2020, 11:00:29 PM
Kicking off the 15th series, here is Hacks compared to Halls cough drops...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pppky3j0/hacks-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Pppky3j0)(https://i.postimg.cc/t7qc9vwb/Halls1.png) (https://postimg.cc/t7qc9vwb)(https://i.postimg.cc/DmxM0d3X/Halls3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmxM0d3X)

I think this is a great gag, and the hacking character is wonderful.  They nailed the packaging, and the artwork, especially the pack end, is terrific.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 15, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
Dynamites and Dynamints...

(https://i.postimg.cc/cgWC6Md3/dynamites-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgWC6Md3)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9xMX90z/Dynamints.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9xMX90z)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 15, 2020, 08:01:17 PM
I’ve fallen a bit behind on the thread.

Promesso - interesting that the 14th should end with not one but two titles (Promesso/Progreaso and Flunk/Flopp) that are “Take two” second parodies of products spoofed earlier.  Both are strong pairings IMO, and just fun products to parody.  Oh, and mustn’t forget Can Label ProGrossout (do I have the name right?), which is also good.  I think most would give Progreaso the edge over Promesso, but I like them equally.

Hack’s Cough Drops - my strongest memory was not being able to get a hold of one, as I did have access to the 15th back in the day.  From my recollection, anytime you saw a title you didn’t have on a checklist and could guess what it was parodying, it made you want it more, because you knew the product.  Conversely, Bum and Mabel didn’t get a rise out of me at all, because I had no idea what the product was.

Nowadays, Halls makes me think of a series of subway advertising posters from a few years back, in which a variety of random folks, who look a little run down with a cold or flu, are saluted for soldiering through their illness.  I always got a kick out of them.  Here’s a couple of them.



(https://i.postimg.cc/rdx1mKBZ/AA764-DC8-54-D7-403-A-BA05-D90841-D793-FB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdx1mKBZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dDvBhjt2/F43252-CA-B95-A-43-A3-8533-B9-F6-A0-C1-CB2-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dDvBhjt2)


Dynamints - loved the candy (fruit flavors), loved the Wacky.  A box full of tiny explosives, what’s not to love?  Awesome visual.  Interesting that Dynamints could arguably be called a TicTac ripoff, and the parody followed suit with the explosives concept of the “tiny little time bombs”.  Both top-notch Wackys.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 16, 2020, 02:32:25 AM
Dynamites and Dynamints...

(https://i.postimg.cc/cgWC6Md3/dynamites-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgWC6Md3)(https://i.postimg.cc/N9xMX90z/Dynamints.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9xMX90z)

Awesome Wacky!  Drove me crazy as a kid - despite my one and only full box purchase ever in 1-16, I didn't get a Dynamites.  A few years later I was thrilled to pull one in a Reissue Series 4 pack, and for years, that filled the spot in my binder.  Anyway, great gag, and again, they nailed the packaging.  Love the rendering of the clear plastic.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on September 16, 2020, 04:45:55 AM
Awesome Wacky!  Drove me crazy as a kid - despite my one and only full box purchase ever in 1-16, I didn't get a Dynamites.  A few years later I was thrilled to pull one in a Reissue Series 4 pack, and for years, that filled the spot in my binder.  Anyway, great gag, and again, they nailed the packaging.  Love the rendering of the clear plastic.

This one made my old top ten list of Wackys I would like to see animated.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 16, 2020, 05:20:22 AM
Awesome Wacky!  Drove me crazy as a kid - despite my one and only full box purchase ever in 1-16, I didn't get a Dynamites.
Tough pill to swallow that a full box didn’t yield at least one full set.  Probably not the norm though, I would imagine.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 16, 2020, 05:58:42 AM
Tough pill to swallow that a full box didn’t yield at least one full set.  Probably not the norm though, I would imagine.

It was!  I remember having at least three Catgobites, but no takers for a trade among the few friends who were into Wackys.  One of those Catgobites was the first Wacky I ever sold on ebay, about 20 years ago.  It's probably in a PSA slab now.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 16, 2020, 01:37:23 PM
It was!  I remember having at least three Catgobites, but no takers for a trade among the few friends who were into Wackys.  One of those Catgobites was the first Wacky I ever sold on ebay, about 20 years ago.  It's probably in a PSA slab now.

I built my 15th set almost entirely from unopened packs I got on the cheap from a dealer at the few major shows I attended in 1997-98.  The only sticker I failed to pull from those packs was Bloodweiser, and maybe Moron Pot Pie.

In hindsight it was almost sacrilege to kill so many packs knowing now that they are all but extinct, but at the time the supply of unopened material looked strong, at least for the later series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 17, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
Jerkitol and Geritol...

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzWvb6V6/jerkitol-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzWvb6V6)(https://i.postimg.cc/sQDK3kp1/Geritol1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQDK3kp1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 18, 2020, 11:18:35 PM
Just as I had mentioned about Halls, I was also highly curious about Jerkitol, because the Geritol TV ads were constant back then.  Never saw it until years later, but it didn’t do much for me.  A valiant effort with an extremely cornball character, but the product packaging is so dull and drab that it’s kind of hard to liven it up even with all those dunce hats.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 19, 2020, 01:23:22 AM
Jerkitol and Geritol...

(https://i.postimg.cc/CzWvb6V6/jerkitol-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CzWvb6V6)(https://i.postimg.cc/sQDK3kp1/Geritol1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQDK3kp1)

Good gag, tag lines and character.  But that glass bottle and lid are outstanding! 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 21, 2020, 09:07:28 AM
Cheap Stick and Chap Stick. I wanted the real product image to be an exact match, or close, so this is the actually the best I could locate.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx/cheapstick-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx)(https://i.postimg.cc/zVKchZtV/Chap-Stick.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVKchZtV)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 21, 2020, 10:42:33 AM
Cheap Stick and Chap Stick. I wanted the real product image to be an exact match, or close, so this is the actually the best I could locate.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx/cheapstick-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx)(https://i.postimg.cc/zVKchZtV/Chap-Stick.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVKchZtV)

The gag is OK, and the "bomb" tagline is really funny and goes with the fins.  They nailed the script, and managed to get a character on a boring, small package.  Middle of the pack for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 21, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
Cheap Stick and Chap Stick. I wanted the real product image to be an exact match, or close, so this is the actually the best I could locate.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx/cheapstick-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WL6hFyx)(https://i.postimg.cc/zVKchZtV/Chap-Stick.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zVKchZtV)
Sometimes the creators would choose a parody title only to abandon it in terms of working the gags off of it.  In this case, what does a “lip bomb” missile concept have to do with being cheap?  Just an odd thing I never really thought about until this thread put each title under closer scrutiny.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 23, 2020, 11:49:03 AM
Mashbox and Matchbox...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKGdzppX/mashbox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKGdzppX)(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N/Matchbox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on September 23, 2020, 01:48:56 PM
Sometimes the creators would choose a parody title only to abandon it in terms of working the gags off of it.  In this case, what does a “lip bomb” missile concept have to do with being cheap?  Just an odd thing I never really thought about until this thread put each title under closer scrutiny.
Maybe because it's so cheap it's a bomb?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on September 24, 2020, 02:46:56 AM
Mashbox and Matchbox...

Good parody.  The crutch holding up the car is a particularly nice touch.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 24, 2020, 04:25:20 AM
Mashbox and Matchbox...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKGdzppX/mashbox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKGdzppX)(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N/Matchbox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N)

Another great Wacky for me in the 15th series!  The gag, tagline, artwork (like the plastic bubble) are all outstanding.  And, what a recognizable product!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on September 24, 2020, 05:42:18 AM
Mashbox and Matchbox...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKGdzppX/mashbox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKGdzppX)(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N/Matchbox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N)

This one brings back bad memories for me. In the period I was between 6 and 10 years old, I would ask for Hotwheels and Matchbox cars for my birthday and Christmas. I had a small collection of about 40 cars/trucks when I got to be about 13, but rarely played with them anymore so  I told my 4 year younger sister she could use them. On the very day I pulled the Mashbox sticker from a Wacky Packages pack, I found out that morning, my sister had placed one of the toy cars in front of and behind each tire of our family car. When my Dad left for work, 4 of the cars were crushed flat.  One of my favorite Wacky Packages but still brings back memories of the ambulance, fire truck, police cruiser and Mustang that also became Mashbox cars that day.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on September 24, 2020, 06:08:26 AM
This one brings back bad memories for me. In the period I was between 6 and 10 years old, I would ask for Hotwheels and Matchbox cars for my birthday and Christmas. I had a small collection of about 40 cars/trucks when I got to be about 13, but rarely played with them anymore so  I told my 4 year younger sister she could use them. On the very day I pulled the Mashbox sticker from a Wacky Packages pack, I found out that morning, my sister had placed one of the toy cars in front of and behind each tire of our family car. When my Dad left for work, 4 of the cars were crushed flat.  One of my favorite Wacky Packages but still brings back memories of the ambulance, fire truck, police cruiser and Mustang that also became Mashbox cars that day.

OUCH!!!  I still have my old Matchbox cars.  One that I considered special I "parked" in a metal Curad box "garage", with tissues around it so that it wouldn't get scratched.  Maybe I'll start a thread with pics.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 24, 2020, 07:36:26 AM
Mashbox and Matchbox...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TKGdzppX/mashbox-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKGdzppX)(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N/Matchbox.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1sFf0N)
I like this one a little more than Shot Wheels from the 5th, because to me the busted-up car is a better visual than a lemon on wheels.  Kudos for the product match - the checkered flag and shirt are proof on an exact match, at least as far as the blister card is concerned.  I must have been influenced by the demolition derby craze of that era, because I went through a phase where I preferred the look of a busted-up toy car vs a shiny brand new one.  My dad was a carpenter and had an unfinished basement with hammers and sledgehammers galore, so it was easy for me to make my own ‘Mashboxes.’  My concerned parents of course discouraged such behavior, and I soon saw the error of my ways and began caring for them appropriately.  I also remember my brothers and I, sickos that we were, blowing up Revell models with firecrackers when the pre-July 4th period came around and fireworks were readily available.  So maybe I only transferred my aggression from one toy type to another lol.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on September 26, 2020, 12:36:35 PM
Pounds and Ponds.

(https://i.postimg.cc/64s3JSJM/pounds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64s3JSJM)(https://i.postimg.cc/0z5NsDF1/Pond-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0z5NsDF1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on September 27, 2020, 09:52:30 AM
Pounds and Ponds.

(https://i.postimg.cc/64s3JSJM/pounds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64s3JSJM)(https://i.postimg.cc/0z5NsDF1/Pond-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0z5NsDF1)
This was one of the 15th titles I missed in the original run, and didn’t see until the 1982 minis.  Can’t say it bowled me over when I finally did see it, but never disliked it either; just an ok average title.  I guess by today’s standards the nature of the gag would be off-limits, with the whole fat-shaming / body-shaming controversy of modern times.  So that also makes this one a little different from an evaluation perspective.  Character sometimes reminds me of Shelley Winters for whatever that’s worth.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 01, 2020, 05:17:08 AM
Fang Edward compared to King Edward cigars...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bth4LsBW/fangedward-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bth4LsBW)(https://i.postimg.cc/JHtwcDcf/King-Edward-Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHtwcDcf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 01, 2020, 10:50:32 AM
Fang Edward compared to King Edward cigars...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bth4LsBW/fangedward-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bth4LsBW)(https://i.postimg.cc/JHtwcDcf/King-Edward-Cigars1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHtwcDcf)
Like Bum and Mabel, this is another of several parodies I couldn’t figure out from the checklist alone.  I recognized most of the cigarette parodies during the OS run, probably because of the ubiquitous advertising of the era, but cigars and pipe tobacco products were definitely not my expertise at that age.

Well-rendered, always love a monster character, but the blending of seemingly unrelated themes (monster & explosive cigars) is again a bit curious.  I would have kept it simple and just called it “Cigars for Monsters”, or Vampires, maybe add some dripping blood to the exposed cigar tips.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 03, 2020, 02:14:08 PM
Shingles Plaster Chips and Pringles Potato Chips

(https://i.postimg.cc/7GWkLN6t/plasterchips-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GWkLN6t)(https://i.postimg.cc/V52wQ42d/Pringles.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V52wQ42d)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 08, 2020, 08:52:07 AM
Bandage compared to Vantage cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fJvqBJ0/bandage-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fJvqBJ0)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDGnfdqk/Vantage1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDGnfdqk)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 08, 2020, 05:25:03 PM
Shingles Plaster Chips and Pringles Potato Chips

(https://i.postimg.cc/7GWkLN6t/plasterchips-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GWkLN6t)(https://i.postimg.cc/V52wQ42d/Pringles.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V52wQ42d)

Sorry to see I’ve fallen behind again on the classics....

Shingles - a definite classic.  Great product graphics to start with, so the parody doesn’t have to stretch things much.  Nice concept with the little shingle roof and what have you.  Pretty sure I snagged this one back in the day.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 08, 2020, 05:30:20 PM
Bandage compared to Vantage cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fJvqBJ0/bandage-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fJvqBJ0)(https://i.postimg.cc/yDGnfdqk/Vantage1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDGnfdqk)
One of my favorite cigarette parodies.  When I started smoking in my teens I dabbled in different brands, and remember trying these.  They nailed the hollowed-out filters, which I remember well.  But overall the general graphics, hapless little guy character and the broken, taped-up cigs are all nice little details combining to make an unspectacular but above-average Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 13, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
I noticed the images are missing on all the comparison posts. Is that glitch happening for everyone?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 13, 2020, 11:56:01 AM
I noticed the images are missing on all the comparison posts. Is that glitch happening for everyone?
It is for me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
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Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 13, 2020, 07:29:05 PM
I noticed the images are missing on all the comparison posts. Is that glitch happening for everyone?
I’d lost the images when I first read this earlier today, but now they’ve reappeared.

On with the reviews!  ;D
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 13, 2020, 09:07:17 PM
Jean Nutty compared to Jean Naté

(https://i.postimg.cc/0M95fMYh/jeannutty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M95fMYh)(https://i.postimg.cc/kR4n00hc/Jean-Nate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR4n00hc)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Baked Bears on October 14, 2020, 09:27:12 AM
A lot of work went into those bubbles!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 14, 2020, 05:33:21 PM
Jean Nutty compared to Jean Naté

(https://i.postimg.cc/0M95fMYh/jeannutty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M95fMYh)(https://i.postimg.cc/kR4n00hc/Jean-Nate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR4n00hc)
Really like this one too.  The product was very familiar, I think there were a ton of TV commercials for it back then.  I think it’s still made today, but nowhere near as popular as it once was.  A lot of these sundry items fell out of favor in a manner similar to perfumes and colognes.  Enjoli, Charlie, and My Sink for that matter!

Anyhoo, back to the Wacky.  Nice goofy dunce character, very well rendered bottle, cap and bubbles.  The original art to this must look amazing.  Too bad the Abrams books left out the 15th and 16th.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 14, 2020, 10:19:47 PM
Jean Nutty compared to Jean Naté

(https://i.postimg.cc/0M95fMYh/jeannutty-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M95fMYh)(https://i.postimg.cc/kR4n00hc/Jean-Nate.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR4n00hc)

This is a great gag, with funny matching taglines.  And awesome bubbles!  Also a cool, funny character to lively up a pretty dull product bottle.  One of my favorites from the 15th, and I still call the product by the Wacky name.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 15, 2020, 11:22:46 AM
Fear Out Iron-Ons and Far Out Iron-Ons compared.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MXP1Tq6x/fearout-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXP1Tq6x)(https://i.postimg.cc/9rwwQ9gt/Far-Out-Iron-Ons.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rwwQ9gt)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 15, 2020, 06:57:06 PM
As the lone Topps parody with monster characters, I’ve always liked this one.  Replacing the transfer images of the series along the bottom of the pack with images of various clothes-pressing irons is a bit far to go for a simple play on words though.  Maybe using images of other various movie monsters would have worked better.  This type of tweaking would make good use of the Wonky concept, like a “what if?” reworking of existing titles.  There’s been numerous suggestions throughout this thread on other titles as well.  How cool would it be to have the artists take a survey of forum members to have select titles reworked this way?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 19, 2020, 08:49:04 PM
Earth Barn and Earth Born shampoo...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vdbqw95x/earthbarn-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vdbqw95x)(https://i.postimg.cc/67BnCDzK/Earth-Born1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67BnCDzK)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on October 20, 2020, 09:23:08 AM
As the lone Topps parody with monster characters, I’ve always liked this one.  Replacing the transfer images of the series along the bottom of the pack with images of various clothes-pressing irons is a bit far to go for a simple play on words though.  Maybe using images of other various movie monsters would have worked better.  This type of tweaking would make good use of the Wonky concept, like a “what if?” reworking of existing titles.  There’s been numerous suggestions throughout this thread on other titles as well.  How cool would it be to have the artists take a survey of forum members to have select titles reworked this way?
I would say the irons along the bottom actually tie in well with the gag "Groovy pictures of irons for monsters to put on their shirts".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 23, 2020, 08:07:06 AM
Earth Barn and Earth Born shampoo...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vdbqw95x/earthbarn-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Vdbqw95x)(https://i.postimg.cc/67BnCDzK/Earth-Born1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67BnCDzK)

Weird little character on this one, looks like something out of ‘Cats’ the musical.  If I remember correctly this is a title difficult to find without some black ink streaking/smudging in the border area.

Another peculiarity I’ve noticed is a slight mismatch with the real product labeling. Makes me wonder if the product looked slightly different at the time Earth Barn was made.  The ‘Earth Bum’ parody in the next series is a more accurate match with the packaging shown here. Also odd to see the same product spoofed twice in back-to-back series in the first place.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: koduck on October 23, 2020, 11:30:59 AM
Weird little character on this one, looks like something out of ‘Cats’ the musical. 

That's some funny sh*t
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 24, 2020, 10:46:08 AM
Catgobite 212 compared to Calgonite 211. Sorry for the tiny pixelated image of real product...the best I could find. I do have a nice, quality image of the Calgonite box without the 211 designation.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TpfVM4J7/catgobite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpfVM4J7)(https://i.postimg.cc/bsymHJWw/Calgonite1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsymHJWw)(https://i.postimg.cc/mtm8d4WN/Calgonite2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtm8d4WN)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on October 24, 2020, 12:41:48 PM
Catgobite 212 compared to Calgonite 211. Sorry for the tiny pixelated image of real product...the best I could find. I do have a nice, quality image of the Calgonite box without the 211 designation.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TpfVM4J7/catgobite-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpfVM4J7)(https://i.postimg.cc/bsymHJWw/Calgonite1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsymHJWw)(https://i.postimg.cc/mtm8d4WN/Calgonite2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtm8d4WN)

This is actually one of my favorites from this series. There was just something about the image of the cat stuffed into a glass that I found hilarious.

Series 15 as a whole marks a short-lived resurgence, before the final fadeout.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on October 29, 2020, 05:47:53 AM
Petley Flea Bags vs. Tetley Tea Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ/petley-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5/Tetley.png) (https://postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on October 29, 2020, 06:24:31 AM
Petley Flea Bags vs. Tetley Tea Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ/petley-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5/Tetley.png) (https://postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5)

I always liked this one, partly because we always had it around the house, and the gag and scratching dog made me laugh.  C'mon, flea bags??  And the tiny little dog fleas?  That just brings back the jingle about "tiny little tea leaves."
 Too funny.  I was disappointed when my mother switched to Salada because it wasn't as funny calling them flea bags without the Petley part.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on October 29, 2020, 07:23:58 AM
Petley Flea Bags vs. Tetley Tea Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ/petley-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9zxNQ6qJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5/Tetley.png) (https://postimg.cc/mP9dVhp5)

This one always makes me think of the classic WB cartoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGwA7zmbryY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGwA7zmbryY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 29, 2020, 07:40:16 PM
I always liked this one, partly because we always had it around the house, and the gag and scratching dog made me laugh.  C'mon, flea bags??  And the tiny little dog fleas?  That just brings back the jingle about "tiny little tea leaves."
 Too funny.  I was disappointed when my mother switched to Salada because it wasn't as funny calling them flea bags without the Petley part.
Well said.  The ‘tiny little dog fleas’ part resonated with me too because I would always sing the jingle in my head whenever I saw the product back then, and that just made it funnier.

Easy to see why there would be blowback from Petley at the time.  Infestation at its finest.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 30, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
I always liked this one, partly because we always had it around the house, and the gag and scratching dog made me laugh.  C'mon, flea bags??  And the tiny little dog fleas?  That just brings back the jingle about "tiny little tea leaves."
 Too funny.  I was disappointed when my mother switched to Salada because it wasn't as funny calling them flea bags without the Petley part.
I know what you mean; with this it's too easy to get in your head "I like those tiny little flea leaves in Petley flea!" It's also amazing that this Wacky turned out to be the one that ultimately killed the OS run where dozens of others could not.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on October 30, 2020, 10:49:52 AM
I know what you mean; with this it's too easy to get in your head "I like those tiny little flea leaves in Petley flea!" It's also amazing that this Wacky turned out to be the one that ultimately killed the OS run where dozens of others could not.

Ummm...Killed the OS run? There's a brand new Old School set due out any minute! Its alive and well as far as I know. Did I misunderstand the comment?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on October 30, 2020, 10:59:56 AM
Ummm...Killed the OS run? There's a brand new Old School set due out any minute! Its alive and well as far as I know. Did I misunderstand the comment?
You're right; in that sense, maybe I should've said "temporarily killed".

You've also got your abbreviations mixed up here. OS is Original Series, while OLDS is Old School.

But I can see where you're coming from; I myself personally consider OLDS to be the official continuation of the OS run we never got until now, first for the 1970s in OLDS 1-7 and, as of now, the 1980s with OLDS 8-9.

Who knows? Maybe the 1990s is coming next? The possibilities seem to be endless!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on October 30, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
OS meaning Original Series.

https://casetext.com/case/tetley-inc-v-topps-chewing-gum-inc

It seems to have been the 1982 Album Sticker version that prompted the suit. Tetley claimed to have had no knowledge of the Series 15 card.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on October 30, 2020, 12:49:39 PM
I can’t remember anymore - was it ever established that C&D fatigue ultimately brought the OS run to a close?  I know it necessitated choosing from a wider variety of product types, beyond supermarket items, but that seemed to be working ok in the later series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on October 30, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
I can’t remember anymore - was it ever established that C&D fatigue ultimately brought the OS run to a close?  I know it necessitated choosing from a wider variety of product types, beyond supermarket items, but that seemed to be working ok in the later series.
doesn't seem like that would be the case, as 4th series got slammed with them when it came out, and included the General Mills C&D. That would have been any easy place to give up, as that one really caused havoc. Likely just reduced sales/profits compared to the heyday didn't make it worthwhile any more.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 01, 2020, 08:27:46 AM
Gums and Jaws

(https://i.postimg.cc/5626P8y7/gums-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5626P8y7)(https://i.postimg.cc/PC6b3tdZ/Jaws.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PC6b3tdZ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 01, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
Having never seen Gums at the time of the 15th but having the checklist to ponder unseen titles for years thereafter, it never crossed my mind that the parody could have been for anything having to do with a movie, let alone a pocket paperback book.  So different from anything seen to that point, yet totally understandable in hindsight given the Jaws craze of 1975.  Probably a case where the book was a virtual unknown prior to the movie, but after the movie run, run another printing and slap the movie poster art on the cover and you’ve got what I’m sure must have been the hottest book on the planet at the time.

Having said all that, what do I think of it?  Just meh I guess.  Don’t love it, don’t hate it.  More than anything it has always just felt very oddball to me.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on November 01, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
This is where Wackys jumped the shark  :P
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on November 01, 2020, 11:13:31 AM
Having never seen Gums at the time of the 15th but having the checklist to ponder unseen titles for years thereafter, it never crossed my mind that the parody could have been for anything having to do with a movie, let alone a pocket paperback book.  So different from anything seen to that point, yet totally understandable in hindsight given the Jaws craze of 1975.  Probably a case where the book was a virtual unknown prior to the movie, but after the movie run, run another printing and slap the movie poster art on the cover and you’ve got what I’m sure must have been the hottest book on the planet at the time.

Having said all that, what do I think of it?  Just meh I guess.  Don’t love it, don’t hate it.  More than anything it has always just felt very oddball to me.


I have to, respectfully, disagree with  the comment that the book was virtually unknown before the movie. The book JAWS was a really big deal before it was a movie. It was on The New York Times bestseller list for 44 weeks  and in it's first year of publication JAWS sold 5.5 million copies (that's more books than there are people in Finland). Most of my friends had read the book before the movie was announced.  I remember The Godfather being a similar scenario.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 01, 2020, 04:50:09 PM
No problem, I’m sure you’re right, what would I have known being all of 8 years old at the time.  I guess I was just predicting the most likely scenario rather than knowing firsthand.  Surprising to hear nevertheless.  I wonder how the books did before some of my other favorite films of that era, such as French Connection and Taking of Pelham One Two Three.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 01, 2020, 04:59:40 PM
This is where Wackys jumped the shark  :P
I wouldn’t say that at all.  An odd product choice is just that, nothing more.  I could use the same argument to say that Wackys jumped the shark in 1967 with Fearstone, or the fake toothpaste Decay in the 11th.

Maybe you’re just kidding, not sure.  But I’ve always felt the last few series are just as strong as the earlier ones in terms of art quality and overall eye appeal.  The only negatives are the higher frequency of odd products and maybe the magazines which I know are comparatively unpopular.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on November 01, 2020, 05:25:46 PM

I have to, respectfully, disagree with  the comment that the book was virtually unknown before the movie. The book JAWS was a really big deal before it was a movie. It was on The New York Times bestseller list for 44 weeks  and in it's first year of publication JAWS sold 5.5 million copies (that's more books than there are people in Finland). Most of my friends had read the book before the movie was announced.  I remember The Godfather being a similar scenario.
Yes, and the 15th Series would've also had The Clodfather if it hadn't been pulled.

According to lostwackys.com, it was pulled because of outrage from the Italian-Americans over Run Tony from the 2nd Series and also because of concern that kids weren't familiar with the book version of The Godfather. But, from what I've been told about Rusty's site from some of you, this should be taken with a whole mine of salt. Anyway, it's all there in the site's Lost Wackys section under Original Series Lost Wackys if anyone wants to look.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on November 04, 2020, 10:13:07 AM
Maybe you’re just kidding, not sure.
Of course, he's making a pun. How could someone who loves Wackys not have a sense of humor? (Now, I'm kidding, just so you're sure!)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 04, 2020, 10:23:28 AM
Gasp View-Monster and Gaf View-Master...

(https://i.postimg.cc/jDFFh0Js/viewmonster-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDFFh0Js)(https://i.postimg.cc/K45FDjcx/View-Master1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K45FDjcx)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp7WHWXF/View-Master2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp7WHWXF)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 04, 2020, 10:47:52 AM
Of course, he's making a pun. How could someone who loves Wackys not have a sense of humor? (Now, I'm kidding, just so you're sure!)
I thought he was kidding based on the emoji, but I have to admit the pun went right over my head.  I use that expression a lot myself (on TV shows mainly, for which it was created), so the coincidence didn’t strike me as it should have.  Also, a cynic might say that about Gums and really mean it!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 04, 2020, 10:57:08 AM
Gasp View-Monster and Gaf View-Master...

(https://i.postimg.cc/jDFFh0Js/viewmonster-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jDFFh0Js)(https://i.postimg.cc/K45FDjcx/View-Master1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K45FDjcx)(https://i.postimg.cc/Xp7WHWXF/View-Master2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp7WHWXF)
A bizarre Wacky for sure but one I always liked, based on an affinity I had at the time for View Master.  Yet another childhood possession that disappeared without explanation.

Years ago I found a small piece of this title (part of the wheel of slides) stuck to something or other, which meant that I probably tried at some point to unpeel and preserve the sticker, though I have no recollection of it.  Must have been not long after 1975.  In some such attempts the sticker would fully unpeel, and in others it would shred into 100 little pieces, impossible to ‘restore.’  Depended on the surface material it was stuck to.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 07, 2020, 07:42:17 AM
Mare compared to More cigarettes

(https://i.postimg.cc/XBdRHrV3/mare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBdRHrV3)(https://i.postimg.cc/SXRw0Tyg/More.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SXRw0Tyg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 07, 2020, 06:25:06 PM
Mare compared to More cigarettes

(https://i.postimg.cc/XBdRHrV3/mare-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBdRHrV3)(https://i.postimg.cc/SXRw0Tyg/More.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SXRw0Tyg)

I would imagine this one ranks as only average among most collectors, but it’s a personal favorite of mine from this series.  The tall slender box of the More brand makes for a unique look among the various cigarette parodies, and the little horses poking their heads out of the box is a nice touch.  A fairly simple concept but great eye appeal IMO.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 19, 2020, 05:26:01 AM
Hamel and Camel cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/7JYKjR4y/hamel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JYKjR4y)(https://i.postimg.cc/1VtKvN0m/Camel.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1VtKvN0m)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on November 19, 2020, 01:15:21 PM
This title never did much for me.  The camel is such an odd-looking animal that any parody that gets away from portraying the camel in a comical way is probably not going to work as well, and for me using a pig that isn’t even cartoonishly funny-looking falls a bit flat.

Of course I’m somewhat biased by 1st Series Camals.  Some of those early titles are so iconic that any attempt at a second parody of the same product almost feels like sacrilege, though of course some that were done were worthy entries into the Wacky anthology.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on November 30, 2020, 08:36:13 PM
Famous Mobsters compared to Famous Monsters. I think the 2nd real magazine cover below is where the Frankenstein image was used for inspiration.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC/famousmobsters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC)(https://i.postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g/Famous-Monsters1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g)(https://i.postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc/Famous-Monsters2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on November 30, 2020, 09:25:47 PM
Famous Mobsters compared to Famous Monsters. I think the 2nd real magazine cover below is where the Frankenstein image was used for inspiration.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC/famousmobsters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC)(https://i.postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g/Famous-Monsters1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g)(https://i.postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc/Famous-Monsters2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc)
There's a mistake on it. It should be "the Great Tana Leaf Heist!".
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on December 01, 2020, 04:48:33 PM
Famous Mobsters compared to Famous Monsters. I think the 2nd real magazine cover below is where the Frankenstein image was used for inspiration.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC/famousmobsters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC)(https://i.postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g/Famous-Monsters1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g)(https://i.postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc/Famous-Monsters2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc)

I wonder if there is any significance to the issue number, 1103876, or if it was simply randomly selected. Some short Google searching didn’t yield anything that seemed associated.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 01, 2020, 07:23:56 PM
Famous Mobsters compared to Famous Monsters. I think the 2nd real magazine cover below is where the Frankenstein image was used for inspiration.

(https://i.postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC/famousmobsters-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhLWb5pC)(https://i.postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g/Famous-Monsters1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsmzZv0g)(https://i.postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc/Famous-Monsters2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzcLTGpc)
I’m not sure if I was familiar with the Warren magazines as far back as 1975, but because I had never seen Sleepy (11th) or Umbrella (13th), I had no idea this magazine was part of the 15th.  The checklist only reads “Famous Mobster’s”, with no “Magazine” or “Mag.”, so I had no idea what it was until I saw a Reissue reprint stuck to a wall behind a newsstand counter 5 years later.  Blew my mind when I saw it.

Love all three of the Warren parodies, giving both Umbrella and Famous a slight edge over Sleepy.  There is so much great imagery and variety in the cover art over the life of the FM series that the title could be parodied dozens of times without ever getting boring.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 03, 2020, 10:29:33 AM
Blurine and Murine. Another extremely hard to find matching real product image. It's the missing link between the two images show below.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NySPk5Hd/blurine-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NySPk5Hd)(https://i.postimg.cc/kBS17nLS/Murine1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBS17nLS)(https://i.postimg.cc/4YbWhWfN/Murine2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YbWhWfN)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 04, 2020, 05:58:20 PM
Weird one.  Never heard of the product, never saw the Wacky back in the day.  I’m well familiar with Visine eye drops going back many years, but never knew there was another brand.  Packaging makes it look like something from the 1940’s.  Not much else to say about this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 12, 2020, 02:06:53 PM
Slam Jim and Slim Jim...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ln1GzCwh/slamjim-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ln1GzCwh)(https://i.postimg.cc/wt0r6Sy4/Slim-Jim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wt0r6Sy4)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on December 12, 2020, 05:47:16 PM
This has to be one of the best original product matches in the entire run. Definitely a familiar product for kids. A so-so gag, but an animated version would be fun.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 12, 2020, 10:20:04 PM
Slam Jim and Slim Jim...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ln1GzCwh/slamjim-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ln1GzCwh)(https://i.postimg.cc/wt0r6Sy4/Slim-Jim.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wt0r6Sy4)
Always liked this one.  Nice cartoony characters, and what’s more absurd than beef jerky sticks duking it out?  Add a highly familiar product to kids, and you’ve got a winner. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on December 13, 2020, 12:57:23 AM
Slam Jim is a fantastic Wacky!  I wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 13, 2020, 06:55:11 AM
Slam Jim is a fantastic Wacky!  I wouldn't change a thing!

I agree! It's so iconic Dave Gross uses it for his avatar too. Want to give a shout out to Jason Leibig for his real product image used in the comparison.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 16, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Smell Ecch-100 compared to Shell X100 Motor Oil...

(https://i.postimg.cc/HcjqbpyM/smellecch-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcjqbpyM)(https://i.postimg.cc/JyYgr92z/Shell-X100.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyYgr92z)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 16, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
I remember seeing the title “Smell Motor Oil” on the checklist and thinking that must be an awesome title, but once I finally saw it some 22 years later, I was disappointed based on the packaging design used, which lacks the eye appeal I was imagining.  The stark orange banding and “Ecch-100” dominate the art too much.  I was hoping for a more prominent shell logo and the classic red and yellow colors (something like that pictured below)but apparently the “X-100” grade is common to most of their vintage oil cans, so I guess they just went with what was current and prominent at the time.  Oh well, maybe vintage Mobil with the flying horse logo would have worked better.


(https://i.postimg.cc/67qYHNdw/5-A5-BDD02-A8-E6-47-AA-A1-B5-872449-B9-EABD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67qYHNdw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 17, 2020, 04:45:02 AM
I remember seeing the title “Smell Motor Oil” on the checklist and thinking that must be an awesome title, but once I finally saw it some 22 years later, I was disappointed based on the packaging design used, which lacks the eye appeal I was imagining.  The stark orange banding and “Ecch-100” dominate the art too much.  I was hoping for a more prominent shell logo and the classic red and yellow colors (something like that pictured below)but apparently the “X-100” grade is common to most of their vintage oil cans, so I guess they just went with what was current and prominent at the time.  Oh well, maybe vintage Mobil with the flying horse logo would have worked better.


(https://i.postimg.cc/67qYHNdw/5-A5-BDD02-A8-E6-47-AA-A1-B5-872449-B9-EABD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67qYHNdw)

I agree. So many more better oil can designs to choose from at the time. Maybe Moobil with a winged cow instead of a pegasus?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on December 17, 2020, 07:43:18 AM
I agree. So many more better oil can designs to choose from at the time. Maybe Moobil with a winged cow instead of a pegasus?
If you go to the Lost Wackys section of lostwackys.com, you'll see a black and white rough for Moobiloil (Mobiloil).

Jay Lynch did this rough. He also did two similar roughs in color called Onion 76 (Union 76) and Porkers 666 Slop-Artic (Phillips 66 Trop-Artic).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 17, 2020, 07:52:25 AM
If you go to the Lost Wackys section of lostwackys.com, you'll see a rough for Moobiloil (Mobiloil).

That would cool to see that rough in a finished painting! There was a Nobull spoof in crazy labels and a Mobil oil bottle spoof in the ANS series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on December 17, 2020, 09:18:40 AM
If you go to the Lost Wackys section of lostwackys.com, you'll see a rough for Moobiloil (Mobiloil).
What is going on with lostwackys.com ?  I think Dave C. (Plastered) also mentioned that the site is only display a tiny "123" in the top left corner.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on December 17, 2020, 09:49:58 AM
What is going on with lostwackys.com ?  I think Dave C. (Plastered) also mentioned that the site is only display a tiny "123" in the top left corner.
It’s only the main page that’s lost - kind of apropos, actually
Go to any sub page and it’s fine
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on December 17, 2020, 11:46:41 AM
It’s only the main page that’s lost - kind of apropos, actually
Go to any sub page and it’s fine
As I've mentioned in a couple of other posts lately, try http://lostwackys.com/lostwackys.htm for the main page. For whatever reason, the index.html file was changed to just have the "123"...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on December 17, 2020, 02:27:23 PM
As I've mentioned in a couple of other posts lately, try http://lostwackys.com/lostwackys.htm for the main page. For whatever reason, the index.html file was changed to just have the "123"...
Thanks!  I have updated my link!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 18, 2020, 08:20:14 AM
Ultra Sheep and Ultra Sheen...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW/ultrasheep-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW)(https://i.postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1/Ultra-Sheen1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on December 18, 2020, 06:18:35 PM
I much prefer Flunk to Flopp for both art and gag. Flopp reminds me of Cram.

Fluff started in Massachusetts so was pretty popular around here when I was a kid. I ate plenty of Fluffernutters, but it was hard to spread!


Flunk compared to Fluff, along with the original parody Flopp from series 7...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ygXcqdNd/flunk-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygXcqdNd)(https://i.postimg.cc/143rxGp1/Fluff.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/143rxGp1)(https://i.postimg.cc/BX85bJYh/flopp-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BX85bJYh)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on December 18, 2020, 06:21:12 PM
Ah, thanks. I certainly never knew what the Ecch was supposed to be parodying!

Smell Ecch-100 compared to Shell X100 Motor Oil...

(https://i.postimg.cc/HcjqbpyM/smellecch-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcjqbpyM)(https://i.postimg.cc/JyYgr92z/Shell-X100.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyYgr92z)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 18, 2020, 07:55:26 PM
I much prefer Flunk to Flopp for both art and gag. Flopp reminds me of Cram.

Fluff started in Massachusetts so was pretty popular around here when I was a kid. I ate plenty of Fluffernutters, but it was hard to spread!
Not exactly a splash reaction to Ultra Sheep - you’ve gone back a whole series!  ;D

As for Ultra Sheep, another “meh” reaction.  Never saw the product, never even saw any shampoo packaged in a jar-shaped bottle like that, nothing especially appealing about the parody, etc.  Well-rendered though; nice shading on the jar and lid.  Does look like something you’d find in one of those utility/sundry stores back in the day. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on December 21, 2020, 05:55:27 PM
Only through these posts do i truly realize how many times i did not know what the original product was...

Ultra Sheep and Ultra Sheen...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW/ultrasheep-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW)(https://i.postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1/Ultra-Sheen1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on December 21, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
true, I had never heard of this product before, just like many in the later Original Series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 21, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Only through these posts do i truly realize how many times i did not know what the original product was...
Agreed, it’s an educational thread in such cases.  I probably first gained greater familiarity with the more obscure real products via the lostwackys.com site, but the one-by-one analysis of titles on this thread will probably help me to remember more of them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on December 21, 2020, 07:24:57 PM
Ultra Sheep and Ultra Sheen...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW/ultrasheep-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bdGgNwQW)(https://i.postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1/Ultra-Sheen1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9sPnSR1)

Love the hairstyle of the sheep echoing the logo of the original product (which is apparently JP from the manufacturer Johnson Products). That's a nice nuance that was completely lost on me. Makes me feel a bit sheepish.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 22, 2020, 06:36:35 AM
I love this one! Wall Eyed Electric Slave compared to Williams Lectric Shave. The word "Willing" would have been a little better than "Wall Eyed"

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMs8rXyf/electricslave-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMs8rXyf)(https://i.postimg.cc/8jWqdqky/Lectric-Shave.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jWqdqky)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 23, 2020, 12:43:49 PM
Though the choice of parody title must have been obvious enough, the gag writers had to really stretch their creative minds to come up with a character or visual to sell the gag in this case.  A robotic barber, with scissor and razor arm attachments?  That’s a bit out there compared to most of its Wacky peers.  Not that I have any better or simpler ideas.  Could never really make up my mind on this one.  No strong feelings positive or negative, just a very different kind of vibe.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on December 23, 2020, 12:59:43 PM
Love this one. Clever gag, and there's something about having things living inside liquid that makes for a great visual.

I love this one! Wall Eyed Electric Slave compared to Williams Lectric Shave. The word "Willing" would have been a little better than "Wall Eyed"

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMs8rXyf/electricslave-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMs8rXyf)(https://i.postimg.cc/8jWqdqky/Lectric-Shave.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jWqdqky)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 23, 2020, 02:21:08 PM
Yes, good point.  Brings My Sink, Lavirus and even Gillo Port to mind, each of which are equally off-the-wall in their own right.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on December 28, 2020, 06:56:47 AM
Bum and Mabel compared to Rum and Maple...

(https://i.postimg.cc/tY3HrKfD/bummabel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tY3HrKfD)(https://i.postimg.cc/6yNkGH3Z/Rum-and-Maple1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yNkGH3Z)(https://i.postimg.cc/G4L6XHvh/Rum-and-Maple2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4L6XHvh)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on December 30, 2020, 07:14:47 AM
Bum and Mabel compared to Rum and Maple...

(https://i.postimg.cc/tY3HrKfD/bummabel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tY3HrKfD)(https://i.postimg.cc/6yNkGH3Z/Rum-and-Maple1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yNkGH3Z)(https://i.postimg.cc/G4L6XHvh/Rum-and-Maple2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4L6XHvh)
Yet another completely unfamiliar product of the era, though that’s to be expected for tobacco products other than the most prominent cigarette brands.

Good parody concept, like the way the small oval-shaped embellishment (product on right) was used to add the wino characters.  The overall look of the product is eye-pleasing too, with the faux wood paneling.  Looks like it was difficult finding an exact match circa 1975, as the metal canister looks older and the other image more recent.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 01, 2021, 11:43:09 AM
Slayskool and Playskool. Looks like the Alphabet Blocks set is the real product parodied here.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtcRt17L/slayskool-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtcRt17L)(https://i.postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt/Playskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on January 01, 2021, 12:09:03 PM
This was another favorite I discovered long after the original run. The kid really has the demented child prodigy look down.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 02, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
Slayskool and Playskool. Looks like the Alphabet Blocks set is the real product parodied here.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtcRt17L/slayskool-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtcRt17L)(https://i.postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt/Playskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt)

IMO one of the very best 15th titles, but alas, like Freetoes mentioned, yet another that I missed in the original run as well.  I’m partial to 13th’s Playskull due to the nostalgia factor that I lack with Slayskool, but really they’re both fantastic.  It also blew my mind to discover in recent years that both parodies have very specific real-product matches.  These almost feel like consolation prizes for OS never having spoofed Aurora model kits, especially Playskull, for obvious reasons.  Of course the OLDS Aurora parodies have since rectified that omission.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: vahsurfer on January 02, 2021, 12:23:47 PM
My NC:


(https://i.postimg.cc/cvgGspNP/Slayskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvgGspNP)

Richard
#StayWacky
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 04, 2021, 12:00:36 PM
Moron Beef Pot Pie compared to Morton Beef Pot Pie...

(https://i.postimg.cc/18XB2d4j/moronbeef-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18XB2d4j)(https://i.postimg.cc/64BL0jDz/Morton-Beef-Pot-Pie.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64BL0jDz)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 04, 2021, 04:38:37 PM
I wish I had seen this in the OS run, as it is so delightfully silly I’m sure I would have adored it even more than I do after only seeing for the first time in the 1980 Reissues as a young teen.

Love the way the beef stew perfectly covers the boy’s hair, in the same way a cheap wig would.  In this respect it looks like a young kid drew the art, which I guess is part of its charm.  And you can’t go wrong anytime you can include a propeller beanie.  It’s got a very juvenile vibe to it IMO.  Real product match is very cool too, I really like the wood-grain background.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2021, 11:28:47 PM
I wish I had seen this in the OS run, as it is so delightfully silly I’m sure I would have adored it even more than I do after only seeing for the first time in the 1980 Reissues as a young teen.

Love the way the beef stew perfectly covers the boy’s hair, in the same way a cheap wig would.  In this respect it looks like a young kid drew the art, which I guess is part of its charm.  And you can’t go wrong anytime you can include a propeller beanie.  It’s got a very juvenile vibe to it IMO.  Real product match is very cool too, I really like the wood-grain background.

I've always liked Moron Beef Pot Pie.  It's so playful!  And, as you said, silly.  Good gag, and matches the packaging.  Even better, we used to eat Morton pies sometimes on nights when we had a babysitter, if we were out of our favorites, the Libbyland Dinners.

Now I want Wackys of the Libbyland dinners!!  Off to the Old School ideas thread!!!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 05, 2021, 07:45:21 AM
This is so educational.

Yet another completely unfamiliar product of the era, though that’s to be expected for tobacco products other than the most prominent cigarette brands.

Good parody concept, like the way the small oval-shaped embellishment (product on right) was used to add the wino characters.  The overall look of the product is eye-pleasing too, with the faux wood paneling.  Looks like it was difficult finding an exact match circa 1975, as the metal canister looks older and the other image more recent.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 05, 2021, 07:47:35 AM
Atom Bombs = Alphabet Blocks.
Never knew that.

Slayskool and Playskool. Looks like the Alphabet Blocks set is the real product parodied here.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtcRt17L/slayskool-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtcRt17L)(https://i.postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt/Playskool.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgXLh6wt)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 05, 2021, 08:03:11 AM
Atom Bombs = Alphabet Blocks.
Never knew that.

I'm pretty sure this was the actual toy used for the parody, unless the boy with red shirt and overalls was used on other toy packaging. I thought there was maybe a stacking toy in bright colors that better matched the atomic bombs, but I couldn't find anything that was a match.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bandaches on January 05, 2021, 10:28:46 AM
As I've mentioned in a couple of other posts lately, try http://lostwackys.com/lostwackys.htm for the main page. For whatever reason, the index.html file was changed to just have the "123"...
what happened to this site?  All gone again?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 05, 2021, 10:34:59 AM
what happened to this site?  All gone again?
I had problems getting to it as well.  Looks like it may finally be dying off.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bandaches on January 05, 2021, 12:25:46 PM
I had problems getting to it as well.  Looks like it may finally be dying off.
that is a shame it is so much easier to use than greg's site and even someone just posted their frustration with greg's overly verbose site being difficult to use on one of the facebook pages.  I was going to direct them to Rusty's site.  Anyone know how to reach Rusty?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 05, 2021, 06:09:16 PM
I'm pretty sure this was the actual toy used for the parody, unless the boy with red shirt and overalls was used on other toy packaging. I thought there was maybe a stacking toy in bright colors that better matched the atomic bombs, but I couldn't find anything that was a match.
I’d say it’s virtually a lock that this is an exact product match.  In most cases where you have a character on the parody it’s an added embellishment, but here the parody character is a direct reflection of the kid on the canister.  Looking up vintage block containers shows many different kids used on the packaging.  The closely matching clothes and hair color in this case is tantamount to having a DNA match.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 05, 2021, 09:26:55 PM
what happened to this site?  All gone again?
I guess it just expired.  That does mean that it is available if you want it.  I did go on Gregs site and he does have a cool feature.  Cross reference pictures (alphabetically) of all versions of a sticker.  I typed in Ajerx and I got every variation of it.  Now my brain hurts because in the picture I can't tell some of these apart to know what series they are from. the 79 test series looks just like the 73 series.  That is just an example.  I have quite a few stickers and want to go through them to see the difference.  I just wish that I could personally distinguish them on my own with out the aid of the website.  However I have to say that those pictures do help out.  If you haven't checked that feature out, it is well worth it. IMO - JOE
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bandaches on January 05, 2021, 09:33:58 PM
I guess it just expired.  That does mean that it is available if you want it.  I did go on Gregs site and he does have a cool feature.  Cross reference pictures (alphabetically) of all versions of a sticker.  I typed in Ajerx and I got every variation of it.  Now my brain hurts because in the picture I can't tell some of these apart to know what series they are from. the 79 test series looks just like the 73 series.  That is just an example.  I have quite a few stickers and want to go through them to see the difference.  I just wish that I could personally distinguish them on my own with out the aid of the website.  However I have to say that those pictures do help out.  If you haven't checked that feature out, it is well worth it. IMO - JOE
yes that sounds cool if it is accurate.  Not saying he doesn't have cool stuff but he just can't get out of his own way to make things simple.  There are words everywhere with links in the middle of paragraphs and such.  People like a menu and a click.  It is exactly what the person who complained on facebook today brought up.

Rusty's site doesn't look like it expired, I looked at the renewal.  Actually if I read the renewal right, it was nenewed days ago but that could be auto pilot renewal for the site but not neccessarily the web content server.  I did some google searches, did Rusty have a stroke like 18 months ago?  Not sure if the Rusty that came up in google searches is the same guy.  I never met him.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: jleonard1967 on January 06, 2021, 08:10:34 AM
Ernie, I  just liked it as I want to get where I can notice a variant right off (besides the obvious ones).  I know that you have a plethora of knowledge when it comes to variants.  If you could look at what Greg has done and let me know if it is useable or not I would be greatly appreciative.  I just need the picture guide to tell the difference and if they are good I would love to be able to use it.  I do agree that the old lost wacky site was easier to used, however it is not working and I notice that Greg is updating his site.  -Thanks JOE
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 06, 2021, 08:21:43 AM
yes that sounds cool if it is accurate.  Not saying he doesn't have cool stuff but he just can't get out of his own way to make things simple.  There are words everywhere with links in the middle of paragraphs and such.  People like a menu and a click.  It is exactly what the person who complained on facebook today brought up.

Rusty's site doesn't look like it expired, I looked at the renewal.  Actually if I read the renewal right, it was nenewed days ago but that could be auto pilot renewal for the site but not neccessarily the web content server.  I did some google searches, did Rusty have a stroke like 18 months ago?  Not sure if the Rusty that came up in google searches is the same guy.  I never met him.

I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Greg’s pages are written more like a mini article where you can refer to background information within the main article if you want to. I find that format much more enjoyable than Rusty’s pages, but if you want to spend the minimum amount of time it may not be ideal.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 07, 2021, 05:27:43 AM
If I recall, Rusty's page showed many rough sketches and lost Wackies, along with comparison parodies to real product images.

Greg's site is well organized, but focuses more on the final product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 07, 2021, 05:43:03 AM
Lowgrade Bawl Park Wet Franks compared to Hygrade Ball Park All Meat Franks.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QW1RFkm/bawlpark-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QW1RFkm)(https://i.postimg.cc/QFdDwDSv/Ball-Park-Franks1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFdDwDSv)(https://i.postimg.cc/3kNM9BxT/Vintage-Ad-780-Baseball-Fans-Guide-to-Ball-Park-Franks-3415970199.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kNM9BxT)(https://i.postimg.cc/WDqBc1ZY/0005864000002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDqBc1ZY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 07, 2021, 06:04:13 PM
Yet another 15th title I missed in the OS era.  I wonder how those weeping weenies would have struck me at a younger age, because I have to say, they strike me as a bit creepy now whenever I look at them.  That being said, i do like it nonetheless, another very silly Wacky.  Nice touch with the grill lines too.  Funny how ‘Bawl Park Franks’ and the next title, ‘Sore Mel Chili’ combine for a nice chili dog!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bandaches on January 08, 2021, 04:21:44 AM
I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Greg’s pages are written more like a mini article where you can refer to background information within the main article if you want to. I find that format much more enjoyable than Rusty’s pages, but if you want to spend the minimum amount of time it may not be ideal.
Rusty does have lots of backround and detail.  So rusty has a menu that you click to get to details, greg has details and you have to click in the middle of the details to get to images.  After learning history most use these sites as quick reference, other than to to see uncut sheets for reference, I don't think I ever use greg's site for quick reference.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bandaches on January 08, 2021, 04:22:22 AM
Ernie, I  just liked it as I want to get where I can notice a variant right off (besides the obvious ones).  I know that you have a plethora of knowledge when it comes to variants.  If you could look at what Greg has done and let me know if it is useable or not I would be greatly appreciative.  I just need the picture guide to tell the difference and if they are good I would love to be able to use it.  I do agree that the old lost wacky site was easier to used, however it is not working and I notice that Greg is updating his site.  -Thanks JOE
yes for sure will give it a once over.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 10, 2021, 05:43:24 AM
Sore Mel Chili with Jeans compared to Hormel Chili with Beans...

(https://i.postimg.cc/qhpTM27Q/soremel-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qhpTM27Q)(https://i.postimg.cc/q6RH20y3/Hormel-Chili1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6RH20y3)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 10, 2021, 06:38:15 PM
The first thing that strikes me is the simple, no-frills look of the can label, but when I see how similar the real product looks, it makes sense.  And the perfectly matching pattern on the chili bowl clinches it for me that this is an exact real product match.

This is an example where they really couldn’t come up with a good idea to sell the gag, specifically what made Mel sore.  Someone took his pants and threw them in the chili? How small must his pants be, or how big a bowl of chili that must be to completely hide his jeans?   Whaaaaattt?!??!?

That being said, still like it a lot.  Another really silly Wacky, good companion to Moron Pot Pie.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 11, 2021, 04:52:53 AM
The first thing that strikes me is the simple, no-frills look of the can label, but when I see how similar the real product looks, it makes sense.  And the perfectly matching pattern on the chili bowl clinches it for me that this is an exact real product match.

This is an example where they really couldn’t come up with a good idea to sell the gag, specifically what made Mel sore.  Someone took his pants and threw them in the chili? How small must his pants be, or how big a bowl of chili that must be to completely hide his jeans?   Whaaaaattt?!??!?

That being said, still like it a lot.  Another really silly Wacky, good companion to Moron Pot Pie.

Yeah, the gag here is pretty surreal! I love parodies like this one where it "breaks the wall" a little more.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2021, 06:25:24 AM
Wrapping up the vintage series 15 - Bloodweiser compared to Budweiser. Does that bottle shape exist in reality for what was used in the parody?

(https://i.postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG/bloodweiser-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG)(https://i.postimg.cc/D80KVg8c/Budweiser1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D80KVg8c)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on January 12, 2021, 10:57:44 AM
Does that bottle shape exist in reality for what was used in the parody?
I think what you're showing is a hit on the real product used for the parody. What makes you think otherwise?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
Wrapping up the vintage series 15 - Bloodweiser compared to Budweiser. Does that bottle shape exist in reality for what was used in the parody?

(https://i.postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG/bloodweiser-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG)(https://i.postimg.cc/D80KVg8c/Budweiser1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D80KVg8c)

Thanks for the product picture - that is an awesome match!!  I have always loved this Wacky, great gag, neat vampire, the blood taglines fit in perfectly, and the vulture on the glass bottle is wonderful.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2021, 11:22:15 AM
I think what you're showing is a hit on the real product used for the parody. What makes you think otherwise?

The parody bottle appears more rounded on top, like it's a larger sized bottle.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2021, 11:44:29 AM
The parody bottle appears more rounded on top, like it's a larger sized bottle.

Perhaps that is artistic license to make it look more like an old fashioned glass blood bottle?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 12, 2021, 11:58:19 AM
Perhaps that is artistic license to make it look more like an old fashioned glass blood bottle?

Ahhh...that makes sense!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on January 12, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Perhaps that is artistic license to make it look more like an old fashioned glass blood bottle?
Especially given the word "plasma" on the parody...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 12, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
Especially given the word "plasma" on the parody...

And "1 Pint."  I always thought the bottle was misshapen to match a blood bottle, so I was thrilled to see today that there actually were short and stubby Bud bottles back then.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 12, 2021, 05:18:40 PM
I always suspected that a quart or 32-oz bottle (same thing?) might have been used, and shortened/widened to optimize the card dimensions, like 6 Urp from the 9th and a handful of others.  Hadn’t considered the old fashioned plasma bottle suggested here, that may well be the answer.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 12, 2021, 05:44:42 PM
With the original series, artists made a concerted effort to design the art to fill out the sticker. You can see it on a lot of the early parodies. Some you don't really notice until you examine them. I think you have the right bottle!



Wrapping up the vintage series 15 - Bloodweiser compared to Budweiser. Does that bottle shape exist in reality for what was used in the parody?

(https://i.postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG/bloodweiser-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nX6xGDVG)(https://i.postimg.cc/D80KVg8c/Budweiser1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D80KVg8c)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on January 13, 2021, 08:05:59 PM
A roommate of mine once had to memorize the Bud label for his fraternity initiation--this version is far less busy, even with the character added.

I think someone pointed out that vampires were the most common imaginary creatures depicted in the original run. (Spoiler alert: more to come.)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 14, 2021, 02:43:24 PM
Here we go with the vintage 16th series! After this set, I'm taking a break.

Bleed's compared to Reed's candy

(https://i.postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq/bleeds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq)(https://i.postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX/Reeds1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX)

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on January 14, 2021, 02:47:54 PM
Here we go with the final 16th series! After this I'm taking a break.

Bleed's compared to Reed's candy

(https://i.postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq/bleeds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq)(https://i.postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX/Reeds1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX)

Swiski, you have been doing a FANTASTINK job with all of these. Most fun thread going. Thank you for all your hard work!

Jim

(p.s.) REED'S can be found at Cracker Barrel
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 14, 2021, 03:39:54 PM
Swiski, you have been doing a FANTASTINK job with all of these. Most fun thread going. Thank you for all your hard work!

Jim

(p.s.) REED'S can be found at Cracker Barrel

Thank you! This is what excites me most about Wacky Packages - the artistry and design of it all. It's fun and challenging trying to locate images of the exact packaging to match over the years.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 14, 2021, 07:01:08 PM
Swiski, you have been doing a FANTASTINK job with all of these. Most fun thread going. Thank you for all your hard work!

Jim

(p.s.) REED'S can be found at Cracker Barrel
I think Regal Crown can be found at Cracker Barrel, too.

Btw, is the real name for Regal Clown Cherry Bombs Regal Crown Cherry Sours or Regal Crown Sour Cherry?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 14, 2021, 07:16:30 PM
This is a good example of the original artists playing with the packaging dimensions to fill out the sticker. I'm a fan of that because it makes the art bigger with there's less wasted space.


Here we go with the vintage 16th series! After this set, I'm taking a break.

Bleed's compared to Reed's candy

(https://i.postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq/bleeds-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXYMp7qq)(https://i.postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX/Reeds1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WsgmWTX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 14, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
Agreed, and this is one of the more subtle examples - package didn’t have to be shortened by much to optimize the card dimensions.  Conversely, in a title like Big Baddy, the distortion had to be severe, because those packs must have been only about 1/2” to 3/4” wide, but a foot or more long. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 14, 2021, 10:28:19 PM
The upside down copywrite tag was an oversight?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 15, 2021, 03:57:57 AM
The upside down copywrite tag was an oversight?
I guess when viewed in portrait mode it’s along the side rather than upside down.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 15, 2021, 04:05:32 AM
I guess when viewed in portrait mode it’s along the side rather than upside down.

Yes, but if you put the sticker in the page in the landscape orientation used for other titles, this one is different.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 16, 2021, 08:30:24 AM
Fling 'Ems compared to Flip 'Ems...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh/flingems-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh)(https://i.postimg.cc/xqFch5PK/Flip-ems.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqFch5PK)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 16, 2021, 09:22:03 AM
Fling 'Ems compared to Flip 'Ems...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh/flingems-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh)(https://i.postimg.cc/xqFch5PK/Flip-ems.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqFch5PK)

One of the very few WP actual products I have never seen before.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 16, 2021, 09:58:54 AM
One of the very few WP actual products I have never seen before.
Ditto that - I think others have noted before that a real product image has proven elusive.  So kudos to Swiski for finding this image.  That being said, I’m sure I ate this type of pellet candy on numerous occasions in my misspent youth, it looks very familiar.  Probably a different product than this though.  There are a lot of novelty candy products, especially around holidays, where a toy topper or the container itself is the bigger draw, and the candy itself is just the cheapest crap imaginable.  Thats what these round BBs remind me of.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 16, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
The upside down copywrite tag was an oversight?
Did all the Bleed's stickers have this, or did Topps discover the error and fix it?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 16, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
Fling 'Ems compared to Flip 'Ems...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh/flingems-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kk0RZDhh)(https://i.postimg.cc/xqFch5PK/Flip-ems.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqFch5PK)

Finally someone found an image of these! I remember the purple and white ones very clearly.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Jean Nutty on January 16, 2021, 03:25:52 PM

Did all the Bleed's stickers have this, or did Topps discover the error and fix it?

I assume all stickers are Mike, or this collector community would know about it, and Greg would mention it on his site. For some reason this title reminds me of the phrase "If it bleeds, it leads".       
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 17, 2021, 09:53:54 AM
Scoot, along with 8th series Scorch, compared to Scope

(https://i.postimg.cc/7GsYGZ5d/scoot-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GsYGZ5d)(https://i.postimg.cc/fSVWxQXL/scorch-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSVWxQXL)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0WJsZBY/Scope1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0WJsZBY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on January 17, 2021, 02:49:51 PM
Scoot, along with 8th series Scorch, compared to Scope

(https://i.postimg.cc/7GsYGZ5d/scoot-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GsYGZ5d)(https://i.postimg.cc/fSVWxQXL/scorch-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSVWxQXL)(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0WJsZBY/Scope1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0WJsZBY)

I was never sure why the characters are holding their noses on this one when the imminent threat is detonation. Perhaps Scoot is both explosive and  malodorous.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 19, 2021, 04:59:22 AM
Not sure which Scope parody is better. I love the flames and Godzilla theme on Scorch, but the Scoot has the TNT joke that referenced the T25 wording on the label.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 19, 2021, 05:02:40 AM
Earth Bum (along with Earth Barn from the 15th series) compared to Earth Born shampoo...

(https://i.postimg.cc/jWfbpVNG/earthbum-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWfbpVNG)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MdqNpVn/earthbarn-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MdqNpVn)(https://i.postimg.cc/Wt8vLwFb/Earth-Born2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wt8vLwFb)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 19, 2021, 06:00:37 AM
Earth Barn has a little more pizzazz I guess, as far as visuals are concerned, but Earth Bum looks more like a traditional OS Wacky and is a better product match.  Come to think of it, I don’t know if Earth Born ever matched the Earth Barn graphics.

Interesting that the repeat parody on the same product occurred in consecutive series in this case.  Suggests the creators may have been struggling by this point to find good product candidates.

Also the ‘bum’ theme is something you wouldn’t see today.  Yubum coffee, Bum’s Life magazine, there’s a handful of them.  Like Rotsa Root, too un-PC for today’s audience.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 21, 2021, 07:27:35 AM
Ghoul Humor compared to Good Humor. Impossible locating an exact wrapper match.

(https://i.postimg.cc/d7RJ9Ykv/ghoulhumor-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7RJ9Ykv)(https://i.postimg.cc/n9rZZ9dc/Good-Humor1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9rZZ9dc)(https://i.postimg.cc/Th3TnBRM/Good-Humor2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Th3TnBRM)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 22, 2021, 05:04:00 PM
I like this title, great skull-head character, but I agree that I don’t think a GH wrapper ever looked like this.  It looks like a shiny red wax candle broken off at one end.  I get that there’s a blood theme, but very odd nonetheless.  Vintage packaging image is awesome.  I remember those 2-flavor swirled ice pops very well.  I think other companies made them similarly as well.  Some were twin pops you could break into two, and some were singles wrapped individually.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 23, 2021, 11:49:30 AM
Children's Ram-A-Liar Truth Syrup compared to Children's Romilar Cough Syrup...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4KFk2kKq/ramaliar-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KFk2kKq)(https://i.postimg.cc/0MTgxY0C/Romilar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MTgxY0C)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 24, 2021, 04:08:24 PM
Don’t think I ever looked this one up to see what the real product name is, or what it looks like.  Very cool that there’s a real kid to spoof, much like Slayskool.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on January 24, 2021, 04:46:33 PM
Don’t think I ever looked this one up to see what the real product name is, or what it looks like.  Very cool that there’s a real kid to spoof, much like Slayskool.

Imagine being the kid who was on the advertising that got spoofed?  I know the woman who was the Sunbeam Bread girl, and she got a kick out of the Wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 26, 2021, 05:30:51 AM
Krummies compared to Kimbies diapers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WFS5kRz/krummies-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WFS5kRz)(https://i.postimg.cc/SJKGBVHz/Kimbies3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJKGBVHz)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 26, 2021, 09:02:43 PM
Never heard of the Kimbies brand.  Weird looking kid, hair makes him/her look like a 3-year old.  Probably better suited to appear on Ditch Boy paint.

I like how the side panel shows boxes of other diaper sizes or whatever distinguishes them.  Nice attention to detail there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 27, 2021, 07:19:02 AM
Never heard of the Kimbies brand.  Weird looking kid, hair makes him/her look like a 3-year old.  Probably better suited to appear on Ditch Boy paint.

I like how the side panel shows boxes of other diaper sizes or whatever distinguishes them.  Nice attention to detail there.

I agree! Couldn't find the orange-red exact matching box online. The pink one was the best quality image.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on January 27, 2021, 09:21:56 AM
Krummies compared to Kimbies diapers...

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WFS5kRz/krummies-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WFS5kRz)(https://i.postimg.cc/SJKGBVHz/Kimbies3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJKGBVHz)
I take it this was not a Norm creation?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on January 27, 2021, 10:40:31 AM
another title I had never knew what the real product was, thanks for sharing this!

This, and we got "Flip 'ems" this year, new Wackys, mini figurines, too, not too shabby!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 27, 2021, 11:19:16 AM
Same! I'm not even sure I realized I didn't know.

another title I had never knew what the real product was, thanks for sharing this!

This, and we got "Flip 'ems" this year, new Wackys, mini figurines, too, not too shabby!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on January 27, 2021, 11:22:04 AM
Nice find. I'm beginning to realize how many I didn't know. And also how little it mattered to my appreciation.

Don’t think I ever looked this one up to see what the real product name is, or what it looks like.  Very cool that there’s a real kid to spoof, much like Slayskool.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 28, 2021, 06:03:56 AM
Glad this thread is solving mysteries. It's fun tracking these images down. The 16th series had many obscure products spoofed.

Next up is Sucker Twin compared to Sugar Twin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/grDSymgW/suckertwin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grDSymgW)(https://i.postimg.cc/0zLc5Qyp/Sugar-Twin.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zLc5Qyp)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 28, 2021, 10:11:37 AM
After seeing the real deal, I have far more appreciation for it.
Love how the table setting is all the same items: cereal, iced tea with lemon, coffee, all on white china

Simple and effective wacky. Possibly just a change to the top line, Looks like sugar, but it’s not.
Maybe that’s obvious by the reaction though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 28, 2021, 05:44:16 PM
‘Simple and effective’, well said.  Love the beverage mayhem, seems to be an often-used Saunders device.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 29, 2021, 07:11:23 AM
‘Simple and effective’, well said.  Love the beverage mayhem, seems to be an often-used Saunders device.

Yeah...makes you wonder what was put in the packets instead of sugar! Kind of reminds me of the scene in Breaking Bad where Walter poisons Lydia.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on January 29, 2021, 08:17:10 AM
M1 is a submachine gun, aka Tommy Gun.

Don't think I'm a gun nut or anything, but M1 refers to the M1 Garand Rifle, which was the main battle rifle used by the U.S. during World War II and Korea. It used stripper clips, but only fired a single shot for each trigger pull. Although a few Tommys were briefly identified as M1s, the vast majority of the 1.75 million produced were designated M1921, M1928A1, or M1A1. Ask any veteran from that time period what an M1 was, and they would say "The Garand rifle", not the Tommy Gun. 'Nuff Said.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 29, 2021, 08:55:52 AM
Horsey Feed Bags and Hefty Food Bags...

(https://i.postimg.cc/nsV7fG25/horsey-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsV7fG25)(https://i.postimg.cc/crQ8Kb52/Hefty-food-bags2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crQ8Kb52)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on January 30, 2021, 10:11:22 AM
Interesting how the artwork is very minimalist, no extra tag lines, side panel details, etc. Kind of has the feel of All-Brain or some of the other 2nd Series titles that transferred from the Ads. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 30, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
found this image on eBay, for the non-tie version, and without the clutter of the 7¢ coupon.

As Mold Rush mentions, this is a late series entry that is so minimalist, it feels like it's from the Dies or Ads. (Even leaving out the Mobil logo)
The upcoming Arise always felt the same way to me.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fR2kzQhg/Hefty-Food-Bags.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 31, 2021, 09:43:30 AM
Floral compared to Doral cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/2qBR3zQZ/floral-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qBR3zQZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgrqfYrL/Doral1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgrqfYrL)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 31, 2021, 09:57:04 AM
Floral compared to Doral cigarettes...

(https://i.postimg.cc/2qBR3zQZ/floral-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2qBR3zQZ)(https://i.postimg.cc/qgrqfYrL/Doral1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgrqfYrL)
When I was a kid, I remember seeing the TV commercials for this product with the Doral cigarette box dancing and singing "Taste me, taste me! C'mon on, taste me! Taste me!" This was the only such tobacco product commercial I remember, along with Edie Adams' "Hey, Big Spender" ad for Muriel Cigars and the Marlboro song (a.k.a. the theme from The Magnificent Seven in a heavily shortened version). I don't remember any of the others, but I've got a few of them on a CD called Tee Vee Toons: The Commercials (1989).

Good thing I never got into smoking. It's been said that if they can get you hooked while you're young, they've got you hooked for life. Of course, what also helped was the classic PSA "Like Father, Like Son" for the American Heart Association, which also came out when I was a kid (btw, this one is also on Tee Vee Toons: The Commercials, right after the tobacco product commercials).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on January 31, 2021, 02:06:03 PM
Factoids that make you feel older: Cigarette advertising has now been banned from television for 50 years. I remember the Winston jingle ("Winston tastes good like a cigarette should"), but the only Doral ads I remember were the cartoon panels in magazines with the parrot and the sea captain.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on January 31, 2021, 03:42:49 PM
Factoids that make you feel older: Cigarette advertising has now been banned from television for 50 years. I remember the Winston jingle ("Winston tastes good like a cigarette should"), but the only Doral ads I remember were the cartoon panels in magazines with the parrot and the sea captain.
I think I know what you mean; they had the same "Taste me, taste me!" ads in magazines, too, but they were drawn as cartoons with different characters in every ad (in fact, every one of them was a full-page ad). Two of the characters that have just sprung to mind are Sherlock Holmes and Dr. John H. Watson (of course).
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on January 31, 2021, 05:00:13 PM
Floral would have been a great parody in the original die-cut series during the "flower-power" psychedelic movement.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 02, 2021, 05:29:29 AM
Yichs Sign-X compared to Vicks Sinex...

(https://i.postimg.cc/SYJG1bwk/sign-x-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SYJG1bwk)(https://i.postimg.cc/mt1wQRYS/Vicks-Sinex.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt1wQRYS)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 02, 2021, 04:51:08 PM
Floral - really like the flower tips on the cigs, nicely detailed.  The character is an odd one though - very weird hair, and bald spot looks more like a cartoon bump on the head, like you would see in a Bugs Bunny cartoon when someone takes a shot to the noggin.  And what’s with the bow tie and armband?  Is he a bartender in an Old West saloon?  A casino dealer?  A guy who counts the money in a back room?  Maybe this is what a florist shop owner looked like back in the day, who knows.

Yick’s Sign-X - simple, decent Wacky, but not a standout.  Can’t think of much else to say about it.  I am glad they put a decent sprinkling of 16th titles into Reissue 3 and 4, otherwise I wouldn’t have seen any of them until years later.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 03, 2021, 05:01:24 AM
Floral - really like the flower tips on the cigs, nicely detailed.  The character is an odd one though - very weird hair, and bald spot looks more like a cartoon bump on the head, like you would see in a Bugs Bunny cartoon when someone takes a shot to the noggin.  And what’s with the bow tie and armband?  Is he a bartender in an Old West saloon?  A casino dealer?  A guy who counts the money in a back room?  Maybe this is what a florist shop owner looked like back in the day, who knows.

Yick’s Sign-X - simple, decent Wacky, but not a standout.  Can’t think of much else to say about it.  I am glad they put a decent sprinkling of 16th titles into Reissue 3 and 4, otherwise I wouldn’t have seen any of them until years later.

Yeah, that guy on Floral is a bit odd. Maybe they were insinuating flower shop guys were nerdy and bad dressers.
Yichs Sign-X would have been boring without the added character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on February 03, 2021, 01:10:20 PM
Funny because I don't see him as being much odder than most of the original Wacky characters. Even on this thread, the Sucker Twin guy looks equally bizarre to me!


Yeah, that guy on Floral is a bit odd. Maybe they were insinuating flower shop guys were nerdy and bad dressers.
Yichs Sign-X would have been boring without the added character.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 04, 2021, 05:12:33 AM
Clubbed Canadian (along with Canadian Clod from 8th series) compared to Canadian Club.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn/clubbedcanadian-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn)(https://i.postimg.cc/VJJythNP/canadianclod-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJJythNP)(https://i.postimg.cc/XXvrrw5S/Untitled.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXvrrw5S)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 04, 2021, 05:17:46 AM
Clubbed Canadian (along with Canadian Clod from 8th series) compared to Canadian Club.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn/clubbedcanadian-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn)(https://i.postimg.cc/VJJythNP/canadianclod-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJJythNP)(https://i.postimg.cc/K4fCHbky/Canadian-Club-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4fCHbky)

Clubbed Canadian doesn't do much for me, especially following Canadian Clod.  It seems to be missing why you're likely to get hit over the head with it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 04, 2021, 05:27:23 AM
Clubbed Canadian doesn't do much for me, especially following Canadian Clod.  It seems to be missing why you're likely to get hit over the head with it.

Yeah, I thought the 8th series gag was better. Looked like the 16th series title was rushed. I found a brighter, sharper real product image.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 05, 2021, 01:41:33 PM
(insert crickets chirping sound here)

Regal Clown and Regal Crown...

(https://i.postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1/regalclown-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1)(https://i.postimg.cc/N58szG66/Regal-Crown-Cherry.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N58szG66)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on February 05, 2021, 06:19:01 PM
This is actually one of my favorites from 16. (Yes, in each of us, there is still a demented 12-year-old who loves explosives.)

Others have mentioned that these are still sold at Cracker Barrel. I posted a picture of Regal and Bleed's from my local CB a while back:

https://postimg.cc/6478sm2M
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on February 05, 2021, 07:29:31 PM
Sometimes its the little things that make a Wacky a fave. I love the dramatic tension that is setup by the Regal Clown's nose being a balloon that is on the verge of exploding. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 06, 2021, 01:21:23 AM
(insert crickets chirping sound here)

Regal Clown and Regal Crown...

(https://i.postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1/regalclown-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1)(https://i.postimg.cc/N58szG66/Regal-Crown-Cherry.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N58szG66)

This is a wonderful Wacky that I wish I had seen back in the 70s.  Great clown with a bomb, and it's doubly explosive since it's a lit stick of dynamite.  That does seem a little strange when you think about it  :-\
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 06, 2021, 05:59:25 AM
A continual shout-out to Jason Liebig! If it wasn't for his awesome packaging collection, we wouldn't have as many perfect real product matches here.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 06, 2021, 08:02:05 AM
Clubbed Canadian - at a quick glance I agree it looks a bit rushed and cartoonish next to Canadian Clod, but upon further inspection, it’s not all that bad.  The main difference is pulling the characters out of the bottle and putting them on the label.  My only criticism is the bottle glass itself.  I guess it was an attempt at matching the brown glass of the real product, but there’s no translucence and it ends up a bit too reddish.  But no big issue, it’s just not one of the dazzlers among the glass jar/bottle standouts.

Regal Clown - cute clown character, too bad clowns weren’t used more often during the OS era, as the creepy factor of clowns could have been used to great effect, though the one we see here is super cute.  Also like the cherries, reminds me a bit of personal favorite Smith Sisters.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: fishbulb on February 06, 2021, 04:08:38 PM
(insert crickets chirping sound here)

Regal Clown and Regal Crown...

(https://i.postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1/regalclown-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTGLrdZ1)(https://i.postimg.cc/N58szG66/Regal-Crown-Cherry.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N58szG66)

THIS is my all time fave wacky! Was lucky to have got one off of ebay years ago when the price of 16th series wasn’t so high. 100% my most prized wacky. And i was beyond stoked when the actual candy came back made by iconic candies years ago. I bought so many - Five Below has them for $1 a roll by me. Sooo good!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on February 06, 2021, 09:39:13 PM
I always seem to like the booze ones.
Also good examples of the early artists taking liberties with the packaging to fill out the sticker.

Clubbed Canadian (along with Canadian Clod from 8th series) compared to Canadian Club.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn/clubbedcanadian-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JG4Cr0Vn)(https://i.postimg.cc/VJJythNP/canadianclod-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJJythNP)(https://i.postimg.cc/XXvrrw5S/Untitled.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXvrrw5S)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 07, 2021, 11:57:08 AM
The next in line is another booze parody...Old Grand Mom compared to Old Grand Dad...

(https://i.postimg.cc/56cyBByt/oldgrandmom-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56cyBByt)(https://i.postimg.cc/CRs4TMXj/Old-Grand-Dad1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRs4TMXj)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MadMike on February 07, 2021, 11:41:34 PM
That product was screaming for a parody. I never knew of the real product, but I always loved the wacky.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 09, 2021, 07:46:00 AM
Misery Dirtycell compared to Mallory Duracell.

Mallory was the original producer of these batteries, and their logo was on the product. Mallory was acquired by Dart Industries in 1978, which in turn, merged with Kraft in 1980. Kohlberg Kravis Roberts bought Duracell in 1988 and took the company public in 1989. It was acquired for $7 billion by The Gillette Company in 1996. In 2005, Procter & Gamble acquired Duracell's parent Gillette for $57 billion.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7/dirtycell-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7)(https://i.postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29/Duracell1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29)(https://i.postimg.cc/2L3BpJGQ/ezgif-com-crop.gif) (https://postimg.cc/2L3BpJGQ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 09, 2021, 08:32:28 AM
The next in line is another booze parody...Old Grand Mom compared to Old Grand Dad...

(https://i.postimg.cc/56cyBByt/oldgrandmom-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56cyBByt)(https://i.postimg.cc/CRs4TMXj/Old-Grand-Dad1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRs4TMXj)

This one makes me laugh, and I wish I had had a copy to show my grandmother way back when.  She would have loved it.  Good gag and tag lines, and the bottle isn't bad.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 09, 2021, 08:34:16 AM
Misery Dirtycell compared to Mallory Duracell.

Mallory was the original producer of these batteries, and their logo was on the product. Mallory was acquired by Dart Industries in 1978, which in turn, merged with Kraft in 1980. Kohlberg Kravis Roberts bought Duracell in 1988 and took the company public in 1989. It was acquired for $7 billion by The Gillette Company in 1996. In 2005, Procter & Gamble acquired Duracell's parent Gillette for $57 billion.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7/dirtycell-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7)(https://i.postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29/Duracell1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29)(https://i.postimg.cc/ppgc6BT5/ezgif-com-crop.gif) (https://postimg.cc/ppgc6BT5)

This is a good Wacky, and now that I know about the old "Mallory" logo, I appreciate it even more.  Well rendered, and good gags.  Thanks for the old image and history!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: jleonard1967 on February 09, 2021, 02:15:37 PM
Misery Dirtycell compared to Mallory Duracell.

Mallory was the original producer of these batteries, and their logo was on the product. Mallory was acquired by Dart Industries in 1978, which in turn, merged with Kraft in 1980. Kohlberg Kravis Roberts bought Duracell in 1988 and took the company public in 1989. It was acquired for $7 billion by The Gillette Company in 1996. In 2005, Procter & Gamble acquired Duracell's parent Gillette for $57 billion.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7/dirtycell-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJk8g2L7)(https://i.postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29/Duracell1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcv1Ct29)(https://i.postimg.cc/2L3BpJGQ/ezgif-com-crop.gif) (https://postimg.cc/2L3BpJGQ)
and to finish the story in 2014/2015 Berkshire Hathaway (good ole Warren) acquired Duracell in a P&G trade off.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on February 09, 2021, 02:20:50 PM
...and am I mistaken or is the guy on Dirtycell Jail-O's twin brother?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 11, 2021, 05:47:50 AM
Arise compared to Rise...

(https://i.postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9/arise-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9)(https://i.postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2/Rise.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 11, 2021, 08:57:31 PM
Dirtycell - love the old-school prison uniform, reminiscent of Duck and Hide.  Interesting that he’s reading a law book - a nod to ‘Cape Fear’?  Also wondering if Duracell batteries were ever sold ‘naked’ as shown, outside of the blister packaging we normally see used for batteries.  Not that I can remember.  Does that make this an ‘Un-packaged Wacky’?

Arise - first saw this in miniature with the 1982 Album set, and have always liked it.  Simple but well done.  Can’t go wrong with an endorsement from the undead.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 11, 2021, 11:32:24 PM
Arise compared to Rise...

(https://i.postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9/arise-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9)(https://i.postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2/Rise.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2)

A solid Wacky, with a good gag and a really detailed, cool character.  The shading on the can makes it look more interesting, whereas the actual product is quite boring!  This was another treat for me in the Series 4 reissue series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: freetoes on February 12, 2021, 08:59:32 PM
Arise compared to Rise...

(https://i.postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9/arise-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4rWkJr9)(https://i.postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2/Rise.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxSxWPh2)

If there were a prize for best improvement upon the original packaging, this one would be a top contender.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 13, 2021, 03:18:11 PM
Similecch compared to Similac...

(https://i.postimg.cc/gXbbvt6p/similecch-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXbbvt6p)(https://i.postimg.cc/8Jm9LpSd/Similac.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8Jm9LpSd)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 16, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
Nice job on the real product find.  I guess there must have been a ‘concentrated liquid’ equivalent to the powdered type shown, hence the ‘concentrated squid’ gag line.

Not much else I can say.  Not a visually dazzling Wacky of course, owing much to the drabness of the real product.  Nothing marketed today would ever look as uninspired, even a generic product.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 16, 2021, 06:50:27 AM
Nice job on the real product find.  I guess there must have been a ‘concentrated liquid’ equivalent to the powdered type shown, hence the ‘concentrated squid’ gag line.

Not much else I can say.  Not a visually dazzling Wacky of course, owing much to the drabness of the real product.  Nothing marketed today would ever look as uninspired, even a generic product.

That's what I was thinking with the "concentrated squid" line being "concentrated liquid". I'm also thinking the real liquid can had a truer green color instead of teal, unless the vintage parody printed differently than intended.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 18, 2021, 09:45:51 AM
Prowl compared to Prell...

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH/prowl-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH)(https://i.postimg.cc/nXb4rSry/Prell.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXb4rSry)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 18, 2021, 11:24:47 AM
Prowl compared to Prell...

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH/prowl-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH)(https://i.postimg.cc/nXb4rSry/Prell.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXb4rSry)

Funny gag with good matching taglines, and a cool burglar.  The glass bottle with the tools inside is awesome!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on February 18, 2021, 11:33:32 AM
Was Prell the shampoo that used the pearl gimmick in commercials or was that another?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on February 18, 2021, 11:49:30 AM
Was Prell the shampoo that used the pearl gimmick in commercials or was that another?
I believe it was Prell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2wyG10BCrg
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 18, 2021, 09:58:53 PM
Prowl compared to Prell...

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH/prowl-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3DmgwFH)(https://i.postimg.cc/nXb4rSry/Prell.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXb4rSry)

Another Wacky I didn’t see until the Reissues - Reissue Series 3 and 4 in particular made it glaringly obvious that there were soooooo many more titles I missed, compared to those I recalled having seen before.

Prowl feels a lot more mainstream compared to many titles from the end of the run.  Starts with an iconic brand and packaging of the times, and the burglar character plus bottle/fluid/contents rendering are all strong points.  This one checks all the boxes, probably one of the 3 or 4 best titles in this series.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 21, 2021, 05:32:02 AM
Suspect and Secret. I never liked the shrunken rub-down lettering title type treatment on the parody. Not even the correct font.

It bugged me so much that I fixed it in Photoshop.

(https://i.postimg.cc/f3PdKr1D/suspect-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3PdKr1D)(https://i.postimg.cc/2VYZ2v9b/Secret1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VYZ2v9b)(https://i.postimg.cc/ykTS5d2f/Secret2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykTS5d2f)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xJ2Sm0gm/Suspect-REV.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ2Sm0gm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 21, 2021, 06:16:14 AM
Suspect and Secret. I never liked the shrunken rub-down lettering title type treatment on the parody. Not even the correct font.

It bugged me so much that I fixed it in Photoshop.
great touch up! Never paid too much attention to this one, so never really noticed that.
but otherwise, it's a pretty solid (ha!) wacky, with a well rendered cap
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on February 21, 2021, 08:29:25 AM
Suspect and Secret. I never liked the shrunken rub-down lettering title type treatment on the parody. Not even the correct font.

It bugged me so much that I fixed it in Photoshop.


That really does improve the appearance significantly!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 21, 2021, 08:39:55 AM
While I was in Photoshop, I created a Wonky, using the gag from the Sucrets (Secrets) parody...

(https://i.postimg.cc/QFwLLvYH/Secrets-Wonky.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFwLLvYH)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: DrSushi on February 21, 2021, 01:56:17 PM
While I was in Photoshop, I created a Wonky, using the gag from the Sucrets (Secrets) parody...

(https://i.postimg.cc/QFwLLvYH/Secrets-Wonky.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFwLLvYH)

Ingenious!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 21, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
That really does improve the appearance significantly!

It sure does!  But, even with the bad typeface I got a big kick out of this Wacky when I found it in the reissues.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 23, 2021, 02:29:01 PM
Suspect and Secret. I never liked the shrunken rub-down lettering title type treatment on the parody. Not even the correct font.

It bugged me so much that I fixed it in Photoshop.
Sharp eye to catch that - the only other examples I was aware of were the ones with the tall, narrow, all-capital letters titles, such as Goonman’s Noodles, Broomo Seltzer, Promesso and a few others.  I’ve always felt those substitutions work more or less ok and don’t detract from the overall look of the parodies (btw - anyone know what that font is called?), but I agree with you on Secret.  In fact, if there was room for it, I would suggest going even bigger with the lettering.

And of course kudos on the homemade Wonky.  The strangled Secrets kid is one of the more iconic Wacky characters.  Don’t be surprised if your homemade makes the jump to ‘official’ Wonky somewhere down the line in these monthly sets!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 24, 2021, 10:29:01 AM
Thanks for the kind comments folks!

Next up is Copperbone compared to Coppertone, along with 8th series Suffertone...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hzZrjRP6/copperbone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzZrjRP6)(https://i.postimg.cc/7JCNJt56/suffertone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JCNJt56)(https://i.postimg.cc/6TTcPqMX/Coppertone1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TTcPqMX)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 24, 2021, 11:36:50 AM
Thanks for the kind comments folks!

Next up is Copperbone compared to Coppertone, along with 8th series Suffertone...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hzZrjRP6/copperbone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzZrjRP6)(https://i.postimg.cc/7JCNJt56/suffertone-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JCNJt56)(https://i.postimg.cc/6TTcPqMX/Coppertone1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TTcPqMX)

Copperbone is a solid Wacky.  The gag and taglines match and make sense, and the textured bottle is great.  It blows away Suffertone, for me, anyway.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on February 24, 2021, 09:00:31 PM
Copperbone is a cooler gag and has better art, for sure. Suffertone has a good, relevant name but doesn't do anything with it.

Copperbone is a solid Wacky.  The gag and taglines match and make sense, and the textured bottle is great.  It blows away Suffertone, for me, anyway.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 25, 2021, 05:16:45 AM
Agree that the second take beats out the first.  While Suffertone is ok, the skeleton in sunglasses is just hilarious.  Agree with Pat that the angled perspective of Copperbone showing the grip texturing along the side really makes it pop compared with the straight-on view of Suffertone.  Also interesting that with Suffertone, the artist distorted the bottle shape to better fill the card space but on the second parody there was no need for it.  Tight fit on the lettering along the bottom gag though, bit of a cheat there.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 26, 2021, 07:17:40 AM
Dr. Nest's toothbrush compared to Dr. West's toothbrush. They really needed to exaggerate the packaging shape to fill the card space!

(https://i.postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8/drnest-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8)(https://i.postimg.cc/18gSZnZW/Dr-West-s-Toothbrush.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18gSZnZW)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Slaytex99 on February 26, 2021, 08:03:26 AM
Dr. Nest seems an odd choice for a product parody.  I mean of all the possibilities.... :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on February 26, 2021, 08:12:55 AM
Dr. Nest's toothbrush compared to Dr. West's toothbrush. They really needed to exaggerate the packaging shape to fill the card space!

(https://i.postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8/drnest-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8)(https://i.postimg.cc/18gSZnZW/Dr-West-s-Toothbrush.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18gSZnZW)

Not one of my favorites, but turning the black angled symbol on the front into a bird was clever, and the gags and tag lines match.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on February 26, 2021, 08:43:23 AM
Not one of my favorites, but turning the black angled symbol on the front into a bird was clever, and the gags and tag lines match.

I love parodies like this where there are people, creatures or objects at a surreal scale inside a plastic window or jar. I agree the parody is clever. I also like that the artist used the hook on top to make it look like a swan head.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on February 26, 2021, 11:31:57 PM
Dr. Nest's toothbrush compared to Dr. West's toothbrush. They really needed to exaggerate the packaging shape to fill the card space!

(https://i.postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8/drnest-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNDPbkh8)(https://i.postimg.cc/18gSZnZW/Dr-West-s-Toothbrush.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18gSZnZW)
Unlike some of the other stick-shaped products, distorting this one too much would hurt the credibility of the toothbrush inside.  The limited shortening used already causes the toothbrush to look more like a hairbrush.  Nice details on the birds and nest though, given the limited space.  I wonder if this was the dominant toothbrush product of the era.  I guess Oral-B has been around a long time, but I don’t remember there being a ton of choices for toothbrushes like there are today.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on February 27, 2021, 04:53:54 AM
Love seeing the original picture of this, I had never heard of it beforehand.

It makes me appreciate the Wacky more and more!

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on February 27, 2021, 09:14:02 AM
I like the way the black microscope (?) black figure on the original is transformed into a bird on the Wacky. Nice touch I would not have appreciated as much having not seen this product before.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 01, 2021, 10:29:05 AM
Real Garbage Can-dy compared to Garbage Can-dy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hz78TzFW/realgarbage-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hz78TzFW)(https://i.postimg.cc/wyJJ3CJ9/Garbage-Can-dy1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyJJ3CJ9)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on March 01, 2021, 10:54:08 AM
See, I always thought this one was a mistake, because they never changed the name of the product. I'm not sure how this one avoided a cease and desist letter.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on March 01, 2021, 11:00:31 AM
I'm not sure how this one avoided a cease and desist letter.

Gee, me neither...

 :]
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: drono on March 01, 2021, 11:47:45 AM
See, I always thought this one was a mistake, because they never changed the name of the product. I'm not sure how this one avoided a cease and desist letter.

Gee, me neither...

Sheldon Cooper: Sarcasm?

No?  It's a Topps product, so why would there be a cease and desist.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 01, 2021, 12:07:30 PM
See, I always thought this one was a mistake, because they never changed the name of the product. I'm not sure how this one avoided a cease and desist letter.
Topps did change the name slightly from Garbage Can-dy to Real Garbage Can-dy.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 01, 2021, 03:06:50 PM
Yes, it’s a different kind of title change altogether, compared to the usual formula.

I was confused by it too, I thought the hyphen in “Can-dy” was the change, but you can see it’s there in the real product display.

I bought those cans quite a bit, and I think they continued well into the early 80’s.  I’ve seen three different box colors, and I think each “series” also changed the array of can colors.  Don’t remember the candy shapes ever changing though.  There are a number of candy and gum items that I would love to snag a display box from - these, munchy mummies, gold rush, Big Buddy, and a few others.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: NationalSpittoon on March 01, 2021, 03:36:07 PM
Sheldon Cooper: Sarcasm?

For me, yes
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 01, 2021, 08:47:53 PM
This is interesting because they art is more about the display than the product itself.

Real Garbage Can-dy compared to Garbage Can-dy...

(https://i.postimg.cc/hz78TzFW/realgarbage-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hz78TzFW)(https://i.postimg.cc/wyJJ3CJ9/Garbage-Can-dy1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyJJ3CJ9)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 02, 2021, 05:06:36 AM
This is interesting because they art is more about the display than the product itself.
And they sorta falsified the manner of packaging itself.  A single can on a backer card, assuming that’s what the parody is trying to convey, never existed.  Imagine how awesome it would have looked if they had done the full counter box as shown.  Couldn’t have included much detail in the garbage cans themselves at that scale, but they probably could have shown them as tiny beat-up metal garbage cans instead of the bright and colorful plastic ones.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 02, 2021, 06:41:42 AM
And they sorta falsified the manner of packaging itself.  A single can on a backer card, assuming that’s what the parody is trying to convey, never existed.  Imagine how awesome it would have looked if they had done the full counter box as shown.  Couldn’t have included much detail in the garbage cans themselves at that scale, but they probably could have shown them as tiny beat-up metal garbage cans instead of the bright and colorful plastic ones.
I always took the image to be of a  closed display box.
The parody distorts the box and moves the title, but I’d say the garbage can emulates the one on the box cover.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsbBmSv0/22867-C9-D-170-C-40-FE-BE18-887-D3-C92-FC91.jpg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 03, 2021, 02:13:35 PM
Seven Spies For Russian Documents compared to Seven Seas Russian Dressing

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT/sevenspies-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm/Seven-Seas-Russian.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 03, 2021, 02:31:05 PM
Seven Spies For Russian Documents compared to Seven Seas Russian Dressing

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT/sevenspies-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm/Seven-Seas-Russian.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm)

This is a fantastic Wacky, but I think it should have been "Dressing for Russian Documents."
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 03, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
I always took the image to be of a  closed display box.
The parody distorts the box and moves the title, but I’d say the garbage can emulates the one on the box cover.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsbBmSv0/22867-C9-D-170-C-40-FE-BE18-887-D3-C92-FC91.jpg)
Looks like a reasonable assumption.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 03, 2021, 04:01:21 PM
Seven Spies For Russian Documents compared to Seven Seas Russian Dressing

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT/sevenspies-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtY0sBTT)(https://i.postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm/Seven-Seas-Russian.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVM1Wpbm)
Why do folks save vintage packaging and not empty them first, when it makes sense to do so?  Who wants 45-year old salad dressing that’s morphed into spent motor oil?

A few months back I bought a can of vintage Colgate shaving cream on eBay, because i’ve always been nostalgic about that old simple graphic used when we bought shaving cream to spray each other with on Halloween.  Seller’s description reads “can mostly full!”  Do they really think I’m buying it for the CONTENTS?!?!??


(https://i.postimg.cc/14sQtgg8/45-C11420-B0-F9-4-C2-A-A133-C919406-A88-AD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14sQtgg8)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 03, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
I know it can be like that. I had an empty can of Billy Beer but people want the full can!


Why do folks save vintage packaging and not empty them first, when it makes sense to do so?  Who wants 45-year old salad dressing that’s morphed into spent motor oil?

A few months back I bought a can of vintage Colgate shaving cream on eBay, because i’ve always been nostalgic about that old simple graphic used when we bought shaving cream to spray each other with on Halloween.  Seller’s description reads “can mostly full!”  Do they really think I’m buying it for the CONTENTS?!?!??


(https://i.postimg.cc/14sQtgg8/45-C11420-B0-F9-4-C2-A-A133-C919406-A88-AD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14sQtgg8)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 03, 2021, 06:30:27 PM
I know it can be like that. I had an empty can of Billy Beer but people want the full can!
I’ve seen where that’s more common with collectible cans, but at least with a can you can’t see the horror inside.  Another practice I’ve seen with cans is leaving the pull tab intact but punching a small hole in the bottom to drain the contents.  That would seem a reasonable compromise.

Come to think of it, I still have to empty that shaving cream can.  The horror . . .
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2021, 07:14:59 AM
Tipsy Roll Pop compared to Tootsie Roll Pop. This basic design on the real packaging hasn't changed too much over the years.

What's the significance of the ball on the end of the short stick on the parody?

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJMCXw83/tipsyroll-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJMCXw83)(https://i.postimg.cc/87W8fjKx/Toosie-Roll-Pop1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87W8fjKx)(https://i.postimg.cc/QKVw8tK4/Toosie-Roll-Pop2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKVw8tK4)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on March 07, 2021, 08:31:30 AM
What's the significance of the ball on the end of the short stick on the parody?

Maybe there was a version of the Tootsie pop sticks that had a ball the end?  Or maybe the artist was trying to convey a cork or glass stopper like you see on glass decanters.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2021, 08:50:43 AM
Maybe there was a version of the Tootsie pop sticks that had a ball the end?  Or maybe the artist was trying to convey a cork or glass stopper like you see on glass decanters.

Ah...yes, or maybe it emulates a swizzle stick? Put it in your drink to stir it. There's actually a local company here in Milwaukee called Cholive that makes chocolate "olives" you put in your martinis.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 07, 2021, 09:36:02 AM

What's the significance of the ball on the end of the short stick on the parody?

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJMCXw83/tipsyroll-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJMCXw83)(https://i.postimg.cc/87W8fjKx/Toosie-Roll-Pop1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87W8fjKx)(https://i.postimg.cc/QKVw8tK4/Toosie-Roll-Pop2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKVw8tK4)
I always felt the stub end of the stick resembled a wooden drumstick, but of course that has no context in the parody.  The swizzle stick theory makes a lot more sense.

I cast my vote for Tipsy Roll Pop as the most grossly distorted product shape in all of Wacky history.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 07, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
Ah...yes, or maybe it emulates a swizzle stick? Put it in your drink to stir it. There's actually a local company here in Milwaukee called Cholive that makes chocolate "olives" you put in your martinis.
These chocolate olives you mention - are they actual chocolate-covered olives or merely chocolate balls made to look live olives? To tell you the truth, I've never heard of them.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 07, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
I always felt the stub end of the stick resembled a wooden drumstick, but of course that has no context in the parody.  The swizzle stick theory makes a lot more sense.

I cast my vote for Tipsy Roll Pop as the most grossly distorted product shape in all of Wacky history.
I agree - a swizzle stick sounds right. And you're also right about the distortion - a long swizzle stick like that would never even fit on a trading card of that size, no matter how much you tried to do it.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 07, 2021, 01:43:23 PM
Ah...yes, or maybe it emulates a swizzle stick? Put it in your drink to stir it. There's actually a local company here in Milwaukee called Cholive that makes chocolate "olives" you put in your martinis.

My 15 year old brain thought it resembled the end of a car antenna indicating it could telescope out further.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 07, 2021, 02:05:14 PM
These chocolate olives you mention - are they actual chocolate-covered olives or merely chocolate balls made to look live olives? To tell you the truth, I've never heard of them.

They are chocolate balls that look like olives.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on March 07, 2021, 10:04:44 PM
I always thought it was the lid to the booze inside, like a cane flask.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 08, 2021, 05:39:06 PM
Yes, swizzle stick. Great addition, and brilliant way to make a lollipop fill out the sticker!

Ah...yes, or maybe it emulates a swizzle stick? Put it in your drink to stir it. There's actually a local company here in Milwaukee called Cholive that makes chocolate "olives" you put in your martinis.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 10, 2021, 06:43:40 AM
Jungle Potion and Jergens Lotion...

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg/jungle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg)(https://i.postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k/Jergens-Lotion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 11, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
Hmmmm...title is kind of a stretch, and I don't think I ever knew it was Jergens.

Jungle Potion and Jergens Lotion...

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg/jungle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg)(https://i.postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k/Jergens-Lotion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on March 11, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Hmmmm...title is kind of a stretch, and I don't think I ever knew it was Jergens.

It does rhyme


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 11, 2021, 03:49:35 PM
Jungle Potion and Jergens Lotion...

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg/jungle-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJpTLPwg)(https://i.postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k/Jergens-Lotion.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjKkxB4k)
By no means a spectacular title from a humor standpoint, but I’ve always really liked the visual on this one.  Interesting shaped bottle, nice colors, unobtrusive character, very well rendered.  Wonder if Jay and Art picked up a bottle of Jergens and Coppertone on the same trip to the drugstore.

By the way, where have we seen the character, or maybe a friend of his, before?


(https://i.postimg.cc/p5PjHfLw/62-C955-CA-8-F97-49-BC-869-D-5-A033-C12-EE19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5PjHfLw)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on March 12, 2021, 06:14:50 AM
By no means a spectacular title from a humor standpoint, but I’ve always really liked the visual on this one.  Interesting shaped bottle, nice colors, unobtrusive character, very well rendered.  Wonder if Jay and Art picked up a bottle of Jergens and Coppertone on the same trip to the drugstore.

By the way, where have we seen the character, or maybe a friend of his, before?


(https://i.postimg.cc/p5PjHfLw/62-C955-CA-8-F97-49-BC-869-D-5-A033-C12-EE19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5PjHfLw)

If you like repeat appearances, check out Neil's Polaroid/Paranoid gag in the upcoming March 2021 set! If you look carefully, you'll see a familiar face hiding in the background!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 12, 2021, 12:45:28 PM
It does rhyme


Jim

Yeah, Jungle is a stretch from Jergens. What if the parody was Juergen's and the character was a German guy in lederhosen? "Made with Sauerkraut"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 14, 2021, 06:46:07 AM
Sufferin compared to Savarin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts/sufferin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts)(https://i.postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 14, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Sufferin compared to Savarin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts/sufferin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts)(https://i.postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY)
Love this one for reasons similar to Jungle Potion - the great can detailing and shading, the indented ribs unique to coffee cans, all beautifully rendered.  ‘Same Old Grind’ is a clever line as well.

I should add that we’re all old enough to appreciate the connotation of the throwback, over-the-top, battle-axe disciplinarian this parody is themed after.  No school-age kid today would understand this I would bet.

Only four more to go after this one . . .  :sad:
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 14, 2021, 12:00:33 PM
Sufferin compared to Savarin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts/sufferin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts)(https://i.postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY)

An absolutely awesome Wacky!  Great gag and matching taglines, with a strict, intimidating teacher (who resembled a nun who taught in my school at the time).  The can is just fantastic, with the ribbing, shading and glimmering reflected light, and especially the way the dead on replicated lettering curves right along with the can and ribs.  Plus, another fantastic metal can lid.  I pulled this in the reissues, and was fortunate enough to have one for sticking on a notebook.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 14, 2021, 12:18:13 PM
Sufferin compared to Savarin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts/sufferin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts)(https://i.postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY)
Swiski, you forgot to put in Sapirin from the 11th series for comparison to this one.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 14, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Swiski, you forgot to put in Sapirin from the 11th series for comparison to this one.
It was recently pointed out that Wackys were not developed one series at a time, and that many finished pieces could pre-date the series they appeared in by a few months or more.  I could be wrong, but I get the sense that the 16th Sufferin design is actually older can graphics than the labeled glass jar used for the 11th Saparin.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 14, 2021, 01:25:04 PM
Swiski, you forgot to put in Sapirin from the 11th series for comparison to this one.

Probably because Saparin was a glass jar.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 14, 2021, 04:15:32 PM
This is a nice-lookin' Wacky.

Was Savarin a popular brand? I wasn't familiar with it as a kid, and there are two parodies of it.

Sufferin compared to Savarin...

(https://i.postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts/sufferin-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TL2Jc7ts)(https://i.postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGVLmbZY)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 14, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
This is a nice-lookin' Wacky.

Was Savarin a popular brand? I wasn't familiar with it as a kid, and there are two parodies of it.
As long as I’ve been a coffee drinker, since maybe late teens, I’ve pretty much seen it around.  Not sure it was considered a top brand, maybe on par with Maxwell House or Folgers.

For my part, I don’t remember ever seeing Chase & Sanborn or Max-Pax, two other brands also parodied.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 16, 2021, 07:03:52 AM
Love this one for reasons similar to Jungle Potion - the great can detailing and shading, the indented ribs unique to coffee cans, all beautifully rendered.  ‘Same Old Grind’ is a clever line as well.

I should add that we’re all old enough to appreciate the connotation of the throwback, over-the-top, battle-axe disciplinarian this parody is themed after.  No school-age kid today would understand this I would bet.

Only four more to go after this one . . .  :sad:

I know! It's been a fun trip down memory lane. When Wackies came back in the 1980s, they were fantastic, but not quite the same. Most of us probably have the fondest memories with the vintage series, when we were kids who didn't understand some of the jokes at the time. But we loved the artwork and wanted to collect them all with our allowance or paper route money, spending a nickel a pack.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on March 16, 2021, 12:25:12 PM
ATTN:    WHY have all the earlier pictures gone away? This thread isn't that old. Any way to get them back?


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 17, 2021, 07:53:33 AM
Smartz 2 Tight 1 compared to Hartz 2 in 1 collar for dogs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD/smartz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD)(https://i.postimg.cc/Y431zfCq/Hartz-collar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y431zfCq)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 17, 2021, 08:30:40 PM
Smartz 2 Tight 1 compared to Hartz 2 in 1 collar for dogs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD/smartz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD)(https://i.postimg.cc/Y431zfCq/Hartz-collar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y431zfCq)
Nice all-around Wacky, funny pooch character, some good gags.  While some have commented that the OS run was scraping the bottom of the barrel by this time in terms of having to choose more obscure products to spoof, or having to branch into new types of products, as far as the finished output is concerned, in my book OS Wackys ended still at the top of their game.  This run-through of the final series really has me wondering what might have been had Topps soldiered on, starting with a quicker and more widely marketed release of 16 to keep up the momentum.

Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 18, 2021, 07:05:32 AM
This parody might be controversial today with all the animal cruelty out there. Every time I see that TV commercial showing neglected dogs and cats, I have to turn it off or go hug my cat.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on March 18, 2021, 08:35:19 AM
Just because we don't see it, does not mean it's not happening.

Please Give To Your Local Shelter.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Zenergizer on March 18, 2021, 10:05:04 AM
this has always been a favorite of mine, I just love the poor dog's expression!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 18, 2021, 01:35:37 PM
The art, the title, the gags, even how the product works, it all ties together nicely.

Smartz 2 Tight 1 compared to Hartz 2 in 1 collar for dogs...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD/smartz-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WhW6Q7GD)(https://i.postimg.cc/Y431zfCq/Hartz-collar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y431zfCq)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 18, 2021, 01:47:50 PM
The art, the title, the gags, even how the product works, it all ties together nicely.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 20, 2021, 05:26:07 AM
Cracked by Killette compared to Cricket by Gillette...

(https://i.postimg.cc/LqkQL6xM/cracked-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqkQL6xM)(https://i.postimg.cc/wy6fV8rR/Cricket.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wy6fV8rR)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 20, 2021, 05:51:08 AM
Cracked by Killette compared to Cricket by Gillette...

(https://i.postimg.cc/LqkQL6xM/cracked-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqkQL6xM)(https://i.postimg.cc/wy6fV8rR/Cricket.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wy6fV8rR)

Another 16th series gem that I missed as a kid.  Too bad, since I would definitely have recognized the product!

Great nutty cricket, funny gag ang taglines.  The painted lighter top looks better than the real thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 20, 2021, 05:57:54 AM
Yeah, this one is top notch! When I see that cricket mascot on the package, I think of him singing on the 70s TV commercial...

https://youtu.be/wV_ysB9lH4Q

How do I embed the video link where people can just watch it within my message and not click on the link?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: bigtomi on March 20, 2021, 08:42:47 AM
How do I embed the video link where people can just watch it within my message and not click on the link?
Press the YouTube button and place the "v=" value right where the cursor is, like this: [reply with quote to see the code]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_ysB9lH4Q
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 20, 2021, 10:59:18 AM
Press the YouTube button and place the "v=" value right where the cursor is, like this: [reply with quote to see the code]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_ysB9lH4Q

Thanks!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 20, 2021, 11:04:17 AM
There must have been several versions of the commercial and jingle, because the one that’s been playing in my head for 40+ years starts out “cricket lighter . . . For a dollar forty-nine....”
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 22, 2021, 11:45:41 AM
Fool Guard and Foot Guard...

(https://i.postimg.cc/1fnKHy4C/foolguard-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fnKHy4C)(https://i.postimg.cc/H8JbBtWc/Foot-Guard1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/H8JbBtWc)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 22, 2021, 02:02:00 PM
Yeah, I missed this series as a kid, too. It was nice to discover it as an adult and Cricket is one of the standouts for me.

Another 16th series gem that I missed as a kid.  Too bad, since I would definitely have recognized the product!

Great nutty cricket, funny gag ang taglines.  The painted lighter top looks better than the real thing!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 22, 2021, 02:23:35 PM
There must have been several versions of the commercial and jingle, because the one that’s been playing in my head for 40+ years starts out “cricket lighter . . . For a dollar forty-nine....”
I remember the line going "Catch a Cricket (clicking noise) for a dollar forty-ni-i-i-ne by Gillette." I also remember the ad shown here, with the matches pouring out of the lighter at the end.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 22, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
I remember the line going "Catch a Cricket (clicking noise) for a dollar forty-ni-i-i-ne by Gillette." I also remember the ad shown here, with the matches pouring out of the lighter at the end.
After viewing the commercial in the link, YouTube showed a handful of other Cricket commercial ads which all used the same theme song but with some variations in the wording.  I guess the ones we’re remembering are mixed in there somewhere.  They must have used that ad campaign for quite some time for it to have stayed in my head like it has.  I’ve purchased some vintage NHL games on DVD (transfers from old VHS recordings), and there are some mind-blowing commercials in those old broadcasts that you would otherwise never think of again, but the moment the ad comes on it’s like a time warp to the early 80’s.  Toyota, Eastern Airlines, Polaroid, tons of great stuff. 
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 24, 2021, 05:22:56 AM
Well folks! The original vintage run of comparisons is complete after this final entry below!

Moving forward, if someone wants to tackle posting comparisons in order from the 1979 reprint series (new titles only) through the modern day monthly series, that would be great, and I can assist along the way if needed.

Another option is to continue this thread as an "open mic" where anyone can post whatever random parody comparison they want from past to present. It could include Lost Wackys, unpublished Wackys, comparisons to non-Wacky parodies, etc.

So without further ado (adieu?) here is Gillo Aquarium Port compared to Gallo American Port...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt/gillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt)(https://i.postimg.cc/R33YkHXK/Gallo-Port1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33YkHXK)(https://i.postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf/Gallo-Port2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: RawGoo on March 24, 2021, 06:56:24 AM
Well folks! The original vintage run of comparisons is complete after this final entry below!

Moving forward, if someone wants to tackle posting comparisons in order from the 1979 reprint series (new titles only) through the modern day monthly series, that would be great, and I can assist along the way if needed.

Another option is to continue this thread as an "open mic" where anyone can post whatever random parody comparison they want from past to present. It could include Lost Wackys, unpublished Wackys, comparisons to non-Wacky parodies, etc.

So without further ado (adieu?) here is Gillo Aquarium Port compared to Gallo American Port...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt/gillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt)(https://i.postimg.cc/R33YkHXK/Gallo-Port1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33YkHXK)(https://i.postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf/Gallo-Port2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf)

Wow, all done.

I should love a well done glass bottle with a shark in it, yet this isn't one of my favorites.  Maybe because I still don't know the product?  Maybe because I think Gillo is just not a great gag?  Not sure.  The actual product was certainly uninspiring.  Would a full bottle have looked amber?

I wonder if they could have done better with Gallows?  Or Gallons?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 24, 2021, 07:30:12 PM
I would be remiss if I didn’t address the final two Wackys.

Fool Guard - for the longest time I couldn’t peg the real product, never knew of a ‘Foot Guard’,  I guess Desenex was the leading product of its type.  That said, decent Wacky - nothing special, just ok.

Gillo Port - another unfamiliar product, but very impressive rendering.  And what’s not to like about a shark in a jug?  Wonder if the shark was inspired by a lingering JAWS mania.

Bravo to Swiski for his diligence and dedication to get through some 500 Wackys, give or take.  Probably wishful thinking, but it would be awesome if each Wacky image paired with its best matching real product image could be preserved somehow for reference.  The matching was an improvement on that shown in Rusty’s Lost Wackys site.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 24, 2021, 10:48:41 PM
Nice job!
I really like Gillo, but never paid attention because I always assumed it was whiskey or something because of the color.


Well folks! The original vintage run of comparisons is complete after this final entry below!

Moving forward, if someone wants to tackle posting comparisons in order from the 1979 reprint series (new titles only) through the modern day monthly series, that would be great, and I can assist along the way if needed.

Another option is to continue this thread as an "open mic" where anyone can post whatever random parody comparison they want from past to present. It could include Lost Wackys, unpublished Wackys, comparisons to non-Wacky parodies, etc.

So without further ado (adieu?) here is Gillo Aquarium Port compared to Gallo American Port...

(https://i.postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt/gillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqDtrSnt)(https://i.postimg.cc/R33YkHXK/Gallo-Port1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33YkHXK)(https://i.postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf/Gallo-Port2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbKcB1mf)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 25, 2021, 07:24:50 AM
I would be remiss if I didn’t address the final two Wackys.

Fool Guard - for the longest time I couldn’t peg the real product, never knew of a ‘Foot Guard’,  I guess Desenex was the leading product of its type.  That said, decent Wacky - nothing special, just ok.

Gillo Port - another unfamiliar product, but very impressive rendering.  And what’s not to like about a shark in a jug?  Wonder if the shark was inspired by a lingering JAWS mania.

Bravo to Swiski for his diligence and dedication to get through some 500 Wackys, give or take.  Probably wishful thinking, but it would be awesome if each Wacky image paired with its best matching real product image could be preserved somehow for reference.  The matching was an improvement on that shown in Rusty’s Lost Wackys site.

Thanks for the kind words! I have all the images organized and safely preserved on my hard drive. I only wish it was complete with all accurate comparisons.

I should thank National Spittoon for starting this thread. I just continued posting comparisons on it.

Like I mentioned earlier, I'd hate for this thread to fade away, so it's open for anyone to post parodies from past to present, in no particular order.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 25, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
Nice job!
I really like Gillo, but never paid attention because I always assumed it was whiskey or something because of the color.

I also thought it was a whiskey or similar alcohol. Never knew it was a wine until I found the real product. I color retouched it in Photoshop to look more like a port wine. Before and after images...

(https://i.postimg.cc/McCfYh1M/gillo-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McCfYh1M)(https://i.postimg.cc/LhYYW4xq/Gillo-recolored.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhYYW4xq)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: BustedFinger on March 25, 2021, 09:18:19 AM
I also thought it was a whiskey or similar alcohol. Never knew it was a wine until I found the real product.
Well it does say "Wine for people who drink like a fish"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 25, 2021, 09:23:29 AM
Well it does say "Wine for people who drink like a fish"

I guess it pays to read the parody then, but the brown liquid appears more like a whiskey than a wine. Strange decision by the artist at the time.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 25, 2021, 11:09:19 AM
I've got a great idea for anyone who may want to keep this thread going.

Why not do the OLDS run as if it was a continuation of the OS run? This way, the 1970s can be continued for a little while with what we have now, then the 1985 series can be done along with any 1980s OLDS series that have been done already (plus any more that may be done in the future), then finally the 1991 series can also be done along with any 1990s OLDS series that, again, may be done in the future.

Thoughts, anyone?
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 25, 2021, 03:44:44 PM
I too misread as a liquor, not only from the coloring, but also the bottle strikes me as somewhat flask-shaped, which you would never see with wine.  Could also be a round jug which is or at least used to be commonly used for inexpensive wines.  I should have known that port is a type of wine, but it never occurred to me that “Gillo” was parodying Gallo (duh, how did I miss that) which has long been synonymous with wines.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 25, 2021, 07:08:03 PM
I would love to hear the story why the color of the liquid inside the bottle was more amber than red. If the parody was to simulate a shark in ocean water, why not have the liquid blue? Did the artist originally have red liquid in the bottle, but his editor told him it was too garish, looking like a sea of blood after a shark attack? The Jaws craze was around that time as well.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on March 26, 2021, 11:27:32 AM
Am I the only one who noticed that the tail sticking out below the label doesn't match the shark head above it? I've never seen any shark with a tail like that. It has always bugged me!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: lucidjc on March 26, 2021, 12:36:07 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the tail sticking out below the label doesn't match the shark head above it? I've never seen any shark with a tail like that. It has always bugged me!

Being a fish keeper my whole life has made me wonder where that tail came from. You are 100% right, that's the wrong tail.


Jim
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: sco(o)t on March 26, 2021, 12:38:18 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the tail sticking out below the label doesn't match the shark head above it? I've never seen any shark with a tail like that. It has always bugged me!

Perhaps we are seeing the tail of a lamprey attached to the shark but hidden by the label   :]


(https://i.postimg.cc/DWD2gmyg/lamp.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWD2gmyg)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: MoldRush on March 26, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that the tail sticking out below the label doesn't match the shark head above it? I've never seen any shark with a tail like that. It has always bugged me!
Just happened to notice yesterday, as there was discussion around the coloring used, type of beverage, etc.

It’s pretty common for fish in general to be drawn in an oversimplified way, even by otherwise talented illustrators.  I guess it’s just always been considered minor inconsequential details compared to how a muscular superhero’s anatomy is drawn for example.  Unless an artist has specifically studied or specializes in wildlife, it’s probably just something they’ve never really looked at all that closely.  In the case of Gillo Port, it’s quite possible the upper portion of the shark looks good because of the painter’s familiarity with the ubiquitous Jaws posters of the times, which of course shows nothing behind the head of the shark, and therefore the rest of the “shark” was looked upon as “just another fish”.  As a small kid I was obsessed with sharks after seeing Jaws and studied pictures so I could draw them fairly accurately, but without that extra interest in learning those details, I could have just as easily drawn a shark’s head on a generic fish’s body.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on March 27, 2021, 12:35:26 PM
The wrong tail has come up before. It somehow makes the shark seem extra evil to me.


Am I the only one who noticed that the tail sticking out below the label doesn't match the shark head above it? I've never seen any shark with a tail like that. It has always bugged me!
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on March 27, 2021, 03:30:16 PM
I would love to hear the story why the color of the liquid inside the bottle was more amber than red.
The amber color would be close to correct if it was a Tawny port.
I’m not sure if Gallo did other than Ruby though.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 28, 2021, 04:27:10 AM
The amber color would be close to correct if it was a Tawny port.
I’m not sure if Gallo did other than Ruby though.

I think you're onto something with the Tawny Port. The color on the parody art is closer to the 1977 ad below, but the bottle and label are different. I also noticed Gallo sold 1 Pint bottles which look closer to the bottle shape on the parody.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wykd3BCV/1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wykd3BCV)(https://i.postimg.cc/gLkbhWdP/2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLkbhWdP)(https://i.postimg.cc/3WKTVgGb/3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WKTVgGb)(https://i.postimg.cc/BtM00XcZ/4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtM00XcZ)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 31, 2021, 07:58:16 AM
I'll kick off the random comparison posts. I will post these occasionally as time allows.

Here are all the Gadzooka parodies over the years, from the die-cuts to the recent 2021 monthly set. A few are from GPK and online POD sets.

I included the poster version of Gadzooka since the artwork is completely different.

I didn't include Sugarmess and Big Baddy since those titles ARE the parodied product under the Gadzooka family.

I'm also not including how many times the parody has been reprinted. This is strictly unique pieces of artwork shown.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HJRr78PG/1968.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJRr78PG)(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf/1973a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf)(https://i.postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK/1974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK)(https://i.postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8/1985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8)(https://i.postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF/1991.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF)(https://i.postimg.cc/14p8ftGT/2005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14p8ftGT)(https://i.postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ/2010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ/2014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/94NWfHRM/2016.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94NWfHRM)(https://i.postimg.cc/7GSZGs27/2017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GSZGs27)(https://i.postimg.cc/njjnjSB1/2017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njjnjSB1)(https://i.postimg.cc/k60qxNyP/2017b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k60qxNyP)(https://i.postimg.cc/Ny300q5B/2020.png) (https://postimg.cc/Ny300q5B)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB/2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB)(https://i.postimg.cc/RJw9G3P6/2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJw9G3P6)

Future entries?

Bitzooka (bitcoin related)
Barzooka (alcoholic gum)
Birdzooka (gum found by birds to build nests)
Bedzooka (chewing gum to put on the bedpost overnight)
Basszooka (fishy flavored gum)
Bugzooka (gum for insects)
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on March 31, 2021, 10:09:55 AM
I'll kick off the random comparison posts. I will post these occasionally as time allows.

Here are all the Gadzooka parodies over the years, from the die-cuts to the recent 2021 monthly set. I included the poster version since the artwork is completely different. I cheated a little adding the Sugar Mess parody, but it is a Gadzooka gum...

(https://i.postimg.cc/HJRr78PG/1968.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJRr78PG)(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf/1973a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf)(https://i.postimg.cc/QKrVfG30/1973b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKrVfG30)(https://i.postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK/1974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK)(https://i.postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8/1985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8)(https://i.postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF/1991.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF)(https://i.postimg.cc/14p8ftGT/2005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14p8ftGT)(https://i.postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ/2010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ/2014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/7GSZGs27/2017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GSZGs27)(https://i.postimg.cc/Ny300q5B/2020.png) (https://postimg.cc/Ny300q5B)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB/2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB)

Future entries?

Bitzooka (bitcoin related)
Barzooka (alcoholic gum)
Birdzooka (gum found by birds to build nests)
Bedzooka (chewing gum to put on the bedpost overnight)
Basszooka (fishy flavored gum)
Bugzooka (gum for insects)
Swiski, if you want to see what Wackys you missed (and there's a few of them), look up pg. 2, Reply #37 of "What is the most parodied product among all Wackys?"
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on March 31, 2021, 10:45:06 AM
Swiski, if you want to see what Wackys you missed (and there's a few of them), look up pg. 2, Reply #37 of "What is the most parodied product among all Wackys?"

Thanks for the missing entries! I removed Sugarmess and didn't include Big Baddy since those titles ARE the parody, under the Gadzooka "umbrella".

I'm also not including how many times the parody has been reprinted. This is strictly unique pieces of artwork shown.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: roughwriter on April 01, 2021, 05:25:29 AM
Swiski, if you want to see what Wackys you missed (and there's a few of them), look up pg. 2, Reply #37 of "What is the most parodied product among all Wackys?"

If you'd like, I can draw up roughs on some of your ideas...
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 02, 2021, 10:35:33 AM
Thanks for the missing entries! I removed Sugarmess and didn't include Big Baddy since those titles ARE the parody, under the Gadzooka "umbrella".

I'm also not including how many times the parody has been reprinted. This is strictly unique pieces of artwork shown.
Oh, I never expected to say how many times Gadzooka's been done, but did you see how many times it's been done? Like I said before, is this a perfect example of overkill or is it just me?

One question: what series did the Gadzooka between Braves and Bazonga come from? I've never seen that one before and I'd like to include it in the list.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Swiski on April 02, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
One question: what series did the Gadzooka between Braves and Bazonga come from? I've never seen that one before and I'd like to include it in the list.

That is from the 50th Anniversary set. There were different parallel border color variants. I just picked the blue one since it's a nice sharp image.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: mikecho on April 07, 2021, 03:01:21 PM
That is from the 50th Anniversary set. There were different parallel border color variants. I just picked the blue one since it's a nice sharp image.
Okay, thanks.
Title: Re: Gag Criticism, Variation, and Packaging
Post by: Gurgle on April 09, 2021, 07:59:57 PM
I love seeing these all together.

I'll kick off the random comparison posts. I will post these occasionally as time allows.

Here are all the Gadzooka parodies over the years, from the die-cuts to the recent 2021 monthly set. A few are from GPK and online POD sets.

I included the poster version of Gadzooka since the artwork is completely different.

I didn't include Sugarmess and Big Baddy since those titles ARE the parodied product under the Gadzooka family.

I'm also not including how many times the parody has been reprinted. This is strictly unique pieces of artwork shown.

(https://i.postimg.cc/HJRr78PG/1968.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJRr78PG)(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf/1973a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnR2Jvf)(https://i.postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK/1974.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnQ29gqK)(https://i.postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8/1985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62ZyV6D8)(https://i.postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF/1991.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gx0jSHCF)(https://i.postimg.cc/14p8ftGT/2005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14p8ftGT)(https://i.postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ/2010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr0rYSTJ)(https://i.postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ/2014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mPnQSFQ)(https://i.postimg.cc/94NWfHRM/2016.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94NWfHRM)(https://i.postimg.cc/7GSZGs27/2017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GSZGs27)(https://i.postimg.cc/njjnjSB1/2017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njjnjSB1)(https://i.postimg.cc/k60qxNyP/2017b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k60qxNyP)(https://i.postimg.cc/Ny300q5B/2020.png) (https://postimg.cc/Ny300q5B)(https://i.postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB/2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1ZTyCRB)(https://i.postimg.cc/RJw9G3P6/2021.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJw9G3P6)

Future entries?

Bitzooka (bitcoin related)
Barzooka (alcoholic gum)
Birdzooka (gum found by birds to build nests)
Bedzooka (chewing gum to put on the bedpost overnight)
Basszooka (fishy flavored gum)
Bugzooka (gum for insects)