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Trading Post => Sell Wacky Packages => Topic started by: bandaches on March 13, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
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I am finally getting off my butt and selling off all of my extras as well as some keeper stuff to raise cash and create more space in my house. The following is an idea of what is coming:
I have nearly 13,000 series 1 -16 stickers with nearly 50% locked up in complete sets. There are over 800 series 1 titles including complete glossy backed set. Reasonably low on the Mag 7 titles but all other titles such as Sleepy, Truant, Runaway, Dr Ono well represented. All beaters with no borders, writing, tears have been removed. I am going to start picking through this and sending high grades to PSA for the low population titles. I also have over 4000 puzzle pieces with again nearly 50% in complete sets, over 140 series 16 puzzle pieces. If someone wants to buy this all, drop me a line otherwise watch for it all to hit ebay in various forms(sets, PSA singles, teaser lots with some great titles).
A variety of OPC, UK, Shedds, Ludlow singles
A big stash of wrappers including some 10 cent wacky ads
Empty display boxes
Uncut sheets
Original art
Shippper cases
Mail Away posters
Unopened packs including some with great titles like Pupsi and Scoot no copy showing
Unopened Cello UK packs with 8th series stickers showing and UK puzzle. Enough to make a complete series 8 set - cool!
Diecuts
....and much much more!
Drop me a line if you want me to try to dig out something sooner than later. I have lost touch with market value on this stuff so it will mostly hit ebay, much of it has no established market value as it is rarely seen! Will consider private deals of course.
Track my auctions:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
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Hey everyone
I got over a dozen requests, PMs, emails from this posting that I am going over and responding this weekend. I really only have time to sort through these requests on the weekend. Lots of people want the same things which is why much of this is going to ebay as I have no idea of market value any more. I will likely be creating some lots of 50-100 cards with teaser PSA graded(or high grade not submitted to PSA yet) title, shedds, series 1 luds, key titles for each series, unopened packs and such and sticking them on ebay.
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Sticker lots are a fun way to create sets. When are you going to put more of these lots on ebay? Will you always include some of the tough titles to finish sets?
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Sticker lots are a fun way to create sets. When are you going to put more of these lots on ebay? Will you always include some of the tough titles to finish sets?
yes, I will always include titles that often complete sets in a lot. I will send you a PM, I am willing to create some custom lots for you, as long as I am moving some volume, you will get key titles that you need. Doesn't have to all be on ebay.h
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IN regards to the 1967 die cuts,would you have a unpunched No 32 Ratz ?
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What has been sold so far? I'd love to see some of the shipper boxes and uncut sheets. I'm glad I had the opportunity to see your collection when I visited you back in my early collecting days!
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What has been sold so far? I'd love to see some of the shipper boxes and uncut sheets. I'm glad I had the opportunity to see your collection when I visited you back in my early collecting days!
Slowly pecking away at the hoard of stickers, wrappers, puzzle pieces as I have series 1-16, shedds, OPC, UK and such. I have series, 6, 12 and 16 sheets plus some other really rare stuff nobody has ever seen which appears to be various proof items that I will eventually dig out. I am in no hurry I took 4 years off, I figure for the next 4 years, I will work on selling all my extras and some parts of my keeper collection. I sold my reissue shippers, have several people asking about my original series shippers(someone coming in late April to see some stuff) including the shippers. I also have a couple of other 1980s shippers. Will eventually pull those out and sell.
I am glad we had some hangouts at my place back in the day! You coming to the pinball show in Allentown this year? It is not the same weekend as the non sport show which is a major bummer for me as I don't think I can make both shows. I will probably choose going to the pinball show although I have some deals lined up that might require my coming to the non sport show too.
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Hi Ernie!
I wanted to barge in for a nanosecond and mention it's nice to see you around these parts!
If my 51 year old Raisin-Brain serves me well, I believe someone here once mentioned you are enjoying fatherhood.
For any newbies, Ernie and Greg were a couple of the original Clodfathers of Wacky collecting . . .
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Crazy%20Ernie_zpskydmoura.jpg)
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I wanted to barge in for a nanosecond and mention it's nice to see you around these parts!
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Thank you "Mr. Kanye West of the WP forum" ;D
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I see people are catching to my number of forum posts thanks to my nearly 2 year absence. For anyone wondering, my number of ebay auctions has been slow as I have been doing quite a bit of private transacting. Original series shippers 5, 10 and 16 have found a new home.
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Thank you "Mr. Kanye West of the WP forum" ;D
Without Wackim Joe or Ron Zombie around anymore, someone has to carry the torch.
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Without Wackim Joe or Ron Zombie around anymore, someone has to carry the torch.
Wackim Joe must have been before my time here. I am afraid to even ask about him if he is mentioned in the same breath as Ron Zombie.
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Wackim Joe must have been before my time here. I am afraid to even ask about him if he is mentioned in the same breath as Ron Zombie.
Don't recall Wackim Joe ever being here; my recollection is that he was a Greg forum only dude. Thank the Lord for small favors.
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Ahhh, I remember Wackim. He lived about 30 minutes from me (supposedly) and I was going to try
and find him one day, visit and say hi, probably against my better judgement, as I think he was making some nasty threats to people on the forum.
Then I listened to my better judgement (for once) and abandoned that plan.
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Without Wackim Joe or Ron Zombie around anymore, someone has to carry the torch.
Wow! Those are names we haven't heard in a while! They sure made the forum interesting, didn't they?!
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Wow! Those are names we haven't heard in a while! They sure made the forum interesting, didn't they?!
*You* make the forum interesting. Those guys are the only ones that ever made me use the ignore feature.
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They sure made the forum interesting, didn't they?!
Not sure "interesting" is the correct term.
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Not sure "interesting" is the correct term.
You know the old curse: "May you live in interesting times."
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
So I am doing another round of selling off stuff. Pretty much I hit a monetary target each spring or end of May, whichever comes first and then I stop cold turkey, make offers, I always prefer private sales, I love skirting ebay fees thru private sales. Do beware that often if an item doesn't sell, I shelve it and it may not come back out for years so make offers on items you want, dont assume it will be relisted for less...
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
So I am doing another round of selling off stuff. Pretty much I hit a monetary target each spring or end of May, whichever comes first and then I stop cold turkey, make offers, I always prefer private sales, I love skirting ebay fees thru private sales. Do beware that often if an item doesn't sell, I shelve it and it may not come back out for years so make offers on items you want, dont assume it will be relisted for less...
I am back from vacation so I'll be blasting out lots of auctions in the coming weeks. I'm just grabbing stuff off of a big table that has stacks of cards and other goodies. I prefer off eBay deals where prices will be better.
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Listed complete second series UK set and stash of sheds titles today, received a bunch of offers several auctions that are going to disappear from the radar tomorrow, anything not relisted was sold off eBay or i decided to tuck away for next year.
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A couple of forum members have won or inquired on my auctions. Just a reminder, prices are friendlier off ebay....I save ebay fees and you get the items at lower prices...win, win....
Click on the link below to see active auctions and also check out my completed auctions as some items didn't see, will be relisted soon unless sold privately.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
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A couple of forum members have won or inquired on my auctions. Just a reminder, prices are friendlier off ebay....I save ebay fees and you get the items at lower prices...win, win....
Click on the link below to see active auctions and also check out my completed auctions as some items didn't see, will be relisted soon unless sold privately.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
Hey gang, reminder that I prefer off ebay deals. I generally list items with high end buy it nows, hope to get offers then move the conversation off ebay. If you see an item that ended early or for some reason never gets relisted after ending with no bids, very likely I did an off ebay deal. Most recent example is the lot of 13th white backs.
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This may be the wrong thread to put this in - Definitely the wrong thread but how rare are 1st glossy backs? I got several for free from a family friend a while ago.
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This may be the wrong thread to put this in - Definitely the wrong thread but how rare are 1st glossy backs? I got several for free from a family friend a while ago.
They're not really rare. I think Dan McKee had a pretty large find of them in near perfect shape years ago, so especially amongst high grade examples they are relatively common.
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This may be the wrong thread to put this in - Definitely the wrong thread but how rare are 1st glossy backs? I got several for free from a family friend a while ago.
It's a hundred percent fact that last common then the regular backs. I have over 600 series 1 titles from a variety of sources. 20 - 30% are glossy backs.
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They're not really rare. I think Dan McKee had a pretty large find of them in near perfect shape years ago, so especially amongst high grade examples they are relatively common.
What statistical analysis have you done that says that given a batch of high-grade series 1 titles they'll be equal amounts of the glossy backs? I completely disagree with your analysis.
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You misunderstand me. I never said 1st glossies are equally common. I just said they aren't that rare. They are not as rare as 6th glossies, or even 4th glossies. Because of a high grade find of them, I say a higher % of high grade 1sts will be glossy than the general population of 1sts. Of course, either way it will be far less than half glossies.
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You misunderstand me. I never said 1st glossies are equally common. I just said they aren't that rare. They are not as rare as 6th glossies, or even 4th glossies. Because of a high grade find of them, I say a higher % of high grade 1sts will be glossy than the general population of 1sts. Of course, either way it will be far less than half glossies.
I didn't misunderstand, you weren't clear in your assertion as you said they are "common" especially in regards to high grades all because of one find by Dan McKee. I am certain you are wrong. I checked my spreadsheet, I have 732 series 1 titles, 127 glossies. I have yet to hear anyone refer to series 1 titles as common as compared with series 4 and series 6 in total populations. Given that 20% of series 1 titles are glossy, using the word "common" is incorrect. Perhaps they are not rare but they are also not peanut butter and they not a milllion things so declaring what something is not is of no value. The are more scarce than regular backed series 1 titles possibly to the tune of 5 to 1 ratio. I am willing to bet your analysis of series 4 glossys compared with series 1 glossy backs is incorrect too. I bet in the total population of all wackys, there are more series 4 glossys than there are series 1 glossy backs as series 4 was produced in much high quantities so even if only 10% of all series 4 titles are glossy, there would still be more of them than series 1 but I am fairly certain the glossy ratio on series 4 is much higher than 10%. I will perhaps take a tally in my hoard, I didn't even bother to distinguish series 4 and 6 glossies in my tallies as I had so many.
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I said "relatively common." That is not a precise description, but I meant they are not as rare as 1st tans, ludlows, etc. I see them all the time, if your estimate is 20% then that is not rare in my book.
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You referred to them as relatively common you're wrong. I definitely don't think they're as rare swries 1 luds or tans, I don't know anybody who is making that claim.
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This may be the wrong thread to put this in - Definitely the wrong thread but how rare are 1st glossy backs? I got several for free from a family friend a while ago.
So getting back to actually answering your question, obviously just saying they not rare doesn't really help you assess how rare they are. They are far less common than regular back series 1 titles possibly to the tune of 5 to 1 ratios. Some titles like mutts for some reason seemed particularly hard to find with glossy back as I know of a few collections that were all missing that same title. I am confident in saying I have had exposure to more series 1 titles than 99% of the people in the hobby. I can also give you some ratios on the various die cutting of series 1 titles too. Un like a few of the others who have amassed huge collections of these I actually look at them noticing nuances like diecuts, shades, backs...
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So getting back to actually answering your question, obviously just saying they not rare doesn't really help you assess how rare they are. They are far less common than regular back series 1 titles possibly to the tune of 5 to 1 ratios. Some titles like mutts for some reason seemed particularly hard to find with glossy back as I know of a few collections that were all missing that same title. I am confident in saying I have had exposure to more series 1 titles than 99% of the people in the hobby. I can also give you some ratios on the various die cutting of series 1 titles too. Un like a few of the others who have amassed huge collections of these I actually look at them noticing nuances like diecuts, shades, backs...
Okay. I never actually knew that they were tougher to find since some of my keeper set is glossy.
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Okay. I never actually knew that they were tougher to find since some of my keeper set is glossy.
What percent of your keepers at is glossy back and how many of those were the ones that were given to you for free from your family friend?
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You count up all of those 6th series glossies you have so many of, I bet you have fewer of those than 1st series glossies. And I didn't mean there are more 1st glossies than 4th glossies in absolute numbers, but as a percentage of each series' total numbers. That may or may not be true, I'm just going anecdotally. I remember looking through a box Dan had at a Philly show that was full of nothing but 1st glossies. I stand by my statement that 1st glossies are not that rare, sure it's an imprecise statement, it translates into: I see them all the time.
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You count up all of those 6th series glossies you have so many of, I bet you have fewer of those than 1st series glossies. And I didn't mean there are more 1st glossies than 4th glossies in absolute numbers, but as a percentage of each series' total numbers. That may or may not be true, I'm just going anecdotally. I remember looking through a box Dan had at a Philly show that was full of nothing but 1st glossies. I stand by my statement that 1st glossies are not that rare, sure it's an imprecise statement, it translates into: I see them all the time.
How about the three tough titles in OS1? Are they more scarce than the others as glossies? Or, is it likely that the glossy back stock was used exclusively at the beginning of the run?
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You count up all of those 6th series glossies you have so many of, I bet you have fewer of those than 1st series glossies. And I didn't mean there are more 1st glossies than 4th glossies in absolute numbers, but as a percentage of each series' total numbers. That may or may not be true, I'm just going anecdotally. I remember looking through a box Dan had at a Philly show that was full of nothing but 1st glossies. I stand by my statement that 1st glossies are not that rare, sure it's an imprecise statement, it translates into: I see them all the time.
I stand by the statement that you didn't answer the question that started this dialogue by saying they are not rare. Dan had no more series 1 glossies than i have. He had three complete and some extras thanks to a find by Pupsi of a yard sale from an ex topps employee. They are less common than the regular backs, you seem yet to acknowledge that fact.
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How about the three tough titles in OS1? Are they more scarce than the others as glossies? Or, is it likely that the glossy back stock was used exclusively at the beginning of the run?
Great question. I don't make assertions based on small sample sizes so I hesitate to say this is a rule. Obviously I have far fewer of the big 4 series 1 titles but I find a higher % of those are found as glossy except for Mutts. I would write off my Mutts experience to bad luck as there is no logical reason for Mutts to be shorter here. This does suggest that glossy backs were used in early runs. Also, I have found like with almost ALL variations, there is geographical indicators in play. For example, I bought a huge hoard of series 7 stickers from Michigan that contained 30 Grime Heavy's and 3 Dustys. Since then, I have noticed the trend of Grime Heavy's being sourced in the middle of the country. Same with series 3 white backs, Kansas, Missouri and surrounding areas seemed to be a heavy source. Glossy series 1's seem to be NY, NJ, Pa heavy source which perhaps aligns with their only being used in early runs. Dan's big find of Glossy's were in Pa.....Ludlow backs seem to be east coast, especially Massachusetts but also some bid finds in south east states. Of course I don't have what I would consider large enough sample sizes for all of the above to be stastically proven out but I am calling out trends.
Imagine if someone came across my series 7 hoard and saw 30 Grime Heavy's....suddenly they are relatively common!! >:D
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What percent of your keepers at is glossy back and how many of those were the ones that were given to you for free from your family friend?
I still don't own Mutts or Bandache but out of the 28 I have, 9 are glossy. (More of the glossys are borderless though.. :sad: )
That equates to 32%, they were all given to me by the same person. He almost completed my whole first series except for of course Mutts and Bandache. He also had normal backs as well. I must've had more at one point but I sold off most of my extra 1st cards in an auction a while ago.
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I stand by the statement that you didn't answer the question that started this dialogue by saying they are not rare. Dan had no more series 1 glossies than i have. He had three complete and some extras thanks to a find by Pupsi of a yard sale from an ex topps employee. They are less common than the regular backs, you seem yet to acknowledge that fact.
Of course, they're significantly less common than the regular backs. That doesn't mean they are rare from my interpretation of that word. Your mileage may vary.
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How about the three tough titles in OS1? Are they more scarce than the others as glossies? Or, is it likely that the glossy back stock was used exclusively at the beginning of the run?
I'm confused...what does the beginning of the run have to do with the four short prints being more or less common?
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I'm confused...what does the beginning of the run have to do with the four short prints being more or less common?
I was just pondering whether the average percentages of the short prints was the same for glossies as it is for the regular white backs, which could indicate titles were pulled.
I apologize for my lack of extensive historical knowledge. I missed all the old discovery threads and discussions on the old forums.
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I was just pondering whether the average percentages of the short prints was the same for glossies as it is for the regular white backs, which could indicate titles were pulled.
I apologize for my lack of extensive historical knowledge. I missed all the old discovery threads and discussions on the old forums.
I understood your question perfectly, did my answer cover what you were looking for?
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I still don't own Mutts or Bandache but out of the 28 I have, 9 are glossy. (More of the glossys are borderless though.. :sad: )
That equates to 32%, they were all given to me by the same person. He almost completed my whole first series except for of course Mutts and Bandache. He also had normal backs as well. I must've had more at one point but I sold off most of my extra 1st cards in an auction a while ago.
Your ratio is not far off from what I called out and your set was comprised of starting with a glossy find rather than from a random distribution of collections so I expected your ratio to be a little higher percent glossy.
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Of course, they're significantly less common than the regular backs. That doesn't mean they are rare from my interpretation of that word. Your mileage may vary.
Agreed nobody in this thread said they are rare so I'm not really sure what issue you are addressing. When someone asked how rare something is that doesn't mean they are stating it is rare. I took the question to mean he was looking for a measure of scarcity.
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I didn't understand because there's virtually no way Lavirus, Mutts or Paul Maul were pulled, Band-Ache is always a possibility.
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Agreed nobody in this thread said they are rare so I'm not really sure what issue you are addressing. When someone asked how rare something is that doesn't mean they are stating it is rare. I took the question to mean he was looking for a measure of scarcity.
Well I didn't have a precise quantification of their rarity to offer, so I did the only thing I was able to, which was to convey that I didn't feel they were all that rare.
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Well I didn't have a precise quantification of their rarity to offer, so I did the only thing I was able to, which was to convey that I didn't feel they were all that rare.
Lol, ... and you stated you thought they were relatively common within some weird arbitrary population of high-grade wacky's. :P
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I didn't understand because there's virtually no way Lavirus, Mutts or Paul Maul were pulled, Band-Ache is always a possibility.
Fair point!
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Lol, ... and you stated you thought they were relatively common within some weird arbitrary population of high-grade wacky's. :P
Yes, I have examined my share of PSA 8,9 and 10 1st series stickers, and my impression was that the glossy backs were a little more common in that realm than they are overall. No actual statistics there, sorry!
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A couple of forum members have won or inquired on my auctions. Just a reminder, prices are friendlier off ebay....I save ebay fees and you get the items at lower prices...win, win....
Click on the link below to see active auctions and also check out my completed auctions as some items didn't see, will be relisted soon unless sold privately.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/bandaches-yahoo/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
Getting back to the point of this thread. May list some original series uncut sheets soon.
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Which uncut sheets? Definitely can't afford any OS ones but just curious.
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I have Series 6 8 12 16. Also have a very unique Series 13 sheet that seems to have been made with transparency stock instead of normal sticker stock. I probably won't sell the series 13 till I figure out what it is
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I have Series 6 8 12 16. Also have a very unique Series 13 sheet that seems to have been made with transparency stock instead of normal sticker stock. I probably won't sell the series 13 till I figure out what it is
Can you please post a picture of the series 13 transparent sheet?
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Can you please post a picture of the series 13 transparent sheet?
Very hard to show, I started a thread on this years ago but it went nowhere. Basically looks like a normal uncut sheet. A corner of it is pulling away and that is when I noticed the whole sticker image and copyright is on an opaque paper.
(https://s26.postimg.org/762uyo5ad/13th_white_screen.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/762uyo5ad/)
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Very hard to show, I started a thread on this years ago but it went nowhere. Basically looks like a normal uncut sheet. A corner of it is pulling away and that is when I noticed the whole sticker image and copyright is on an opaque paper.
(https://s26.postimg.org/762uyo5ad/13th_white_screen.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/762uyo5ad/)
It is whiteback stock. The titles are not diecut. I have three sheets that seems to be cutting floor samples of some kind of mistake perhaps a transition from tan to white stock coded 483-05-01-4 with a stamp of "enco" stouffer in the lower left corner of each sheet.
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It is whiteback stock. The titles are not diecut. I have three sheets that seems to be cutting floor samples of some kind of mistake perhaps a transition from tan to white stock coded 483-05-01-4 with a stamp of "enco" stouffer in the lower left corner of each sheet.
Has anybody ever peeled a 13th white back sticker? Is it possible that they are all printed on this stock?
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Has anybody ever peeled a 13th white back sticker? Is it possible that they are all printed on this stock?
I think you are on to something!
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I have Series 6 8 12 16. Also have a very unique Series 13 sheet that seems to have been made with transparency stock instead of normal sticker stock. I probably won't sell the series 13 till I figure out what it is
Series 8 12 and 16 sheets on ebay. Will deliver to Allentown show if sold by then and winner attending the show.