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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: NationalSpittoon on December 13, 2015, 10:01:33 AM
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Wacky Packages packs that I have bought unopened and have or have not opened will be on this list, along with count.
I will also tell what I got ASAP.
Opened:
[1974 Series 7] x1 0-462-21-02-3
Mediquak, Caged
[1974 Series 8] x1 0-492-85-02-3
Bone Ami, STD
[1975 Series 13] x1 0-483-21-01-5
Playskull, Shorts Illustrated
[1980 Series 3] x1
Flare, Scary Jane, Slayer, Barman, Oscar Moron, Czechlets
[1980 Series 4] x15
Too many to put here, duplicates.
[1991 Series 1] x3
Badzooka, Super Moron 2, Yuppie Chow, Popps, Extraterrestrial Seize Ems, Pigtionary, Tattoo Skins,Cup O Poodles,
Unopened:
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Ones that I have or have not opened.
Opened:
1980 Series 3
1980 Series 4
1991 Series 1
Unopened:
1974 Series 8
Is this just for public documentation purposes?
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Ones that I have or have not...
opened.
Sounds like Hamlet to me.
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Is this just for public documentation purposes?
Yes.
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Or Schrödinger's cat theory
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Looking for 1973 Series 1 and 2 and 1974ish Series 5 if someone has them for trade or sale
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Looking for 1973 Series 1 and 2 and 1974ish Series 5 if someone has them for trade or sale
I don't think you'll have too many responses for series 1...
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Grrrrrrr - Where is RipOffBay when I need it!
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Grrrrrrr - Where is RipOffBay when I need it!
Looking back at this now, maybe you could've bought the box of thirds! (Or assumed to be thirds) :d030:
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(https://s32.postimg.org/ol5h2d29d/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ol5h2d29d/)
Here is my Holy Grail! Too much loot and lots of help from Rip'emBay and friends on the Forum! Special Shout Out to Dave for all of his help!
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While I only collect reissues.........I must say......that is one sweet display! Very nice set up. I love to see how every one displays there collection and what the prize. Thanks for sharing.
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(https://s32.postimg.org/ol5h2d29d/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ol5h2d29d/)
Here is my Holy Grail! Too much loot and lots of help from Rip'emBay and friends on the Forum! Special Shout Out to Dave for all of his help!
Very cool. Nicely done.
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(https://s32.postimg.org/ol5h2d29d/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ol5h2d29d/)
Here is my Holy Grail! Too much loot and lots of help from Rip'emBay and friends on the Forum! Special Shout Out to Dave for all of his help!
Very nice display!
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...and the jumbo 1-16 pack run...
(http://s19.postimg.org/vde38i61v/image.jpg)
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Words fail me...........
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...and the jumbo 1-16 pack run...
(http://s19.postimg.org/vde38i61v/image.jpg)
So those are all unopened? If so, I don't even wanna talk about it. :blob8:
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So those are all unopened? If so, I don't even wanna talk about it. :blob8:
It's all 63 known fold/ad variations (including the 10th series brown quacker can variations) for series 1-16 unopened packs...with a cloth pack and 2nd Ludlow pack thrown in.
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It's all 63 known fold/ad variations (including the 10th series brown quacker can variations) for series 1-16 unopened packs...with a cloth pack and 2nd Ludlow pack thrown in.
Wow, this is truly awesome!
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Wow, this is truly awesome!
It really bugs me that I'll likely go to my grave not knowing whether an 85-fold 7th series pack with wall poster ad or an 11th green 85-fold pack with 1975 wall poster ad exists...but I guess the world does have bigger problems!
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It really bugs me that I'll likely go to my grave not knowing whether an 85-fold 7th series pack with wall poster ad or an 11th green 85-fold pack with 1975 wall poster ad exists...but I guess the world does have bigger problems!
They don't exist. Feel better?
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They don't exist. Feel better?
I would, if I believed you. 🙂
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I would, if I believed you. 🙂
I've been right about everything else I have highlighted for you, it will just take some time for you validate and accept it. You are thorough, that is commendable.
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(https://s32.postimg.org/ol5h2d29d/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ol5h2d29d/)
Here is my Holy Grail! Too much loot and lots of help from Rip'emBay and friends on the Forum! Special Shout Out to Dave for all of his help!
I like the Series 8 Blue pack instead of the easy to find orange. Years ago I bought a full box of series 8 blue packs, but I stupidly sold it about 5 years ago. The good news is that is helped put a big dent in the payment for a new in ground pool at my house. Which is also nice.
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I like the Series 8 Blue pack instead of the easy to find orange. Years ago I bought a full box of series 8 blue packs, but I stupidly sold it about 5 years ago. The good news is that is helped put a big dent in the payment for a new in ground pool at my house. Which is also nice.
Pack content variations is not my thing . I can't rationalize chasing oddball wrapper/content combinations as many are a result of Topps throwing together surplus wrappers and surplus wackies, it is kinda like collecting miscuts. It is somewhat flukey.
Funpack variations, random series in random wrappers. If the yellow funpacks with the 12th puzzle and the 15th series stickers had consistent content such as 12th sticker as opposed to 15th, does it suddenly become a legit 12th yellow pack?
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Funpack variations, random series in random wrappers. If the yellow funpacks with the 12th puzzle and the 15th series stickers had consistent content such as 12th sticker as opposed to 15th, does it suddenly become a legit 12th yellow pack?
You raise some good and valid questions here.
If you look at my "unopened pack reference library" thread, you'll see funpacks are the one type of pack I did not address, for the exact reason you cite. There isn't any way to really classify them. I personally view it as the wrapper/checklist combination, but that's my own arbitrary decision.
The term "funpack" isn't even well-defined, because I know for a fact that legitimate 11th series packs (11th yellow wrapper, 11th checklist, two 11th series stickers) have been found in fun bags. So some fun bags just recycled legit regular packs, while others had packs made for fun bags.
There's only been one instance I know of where there was confusion between a funpack and a regular pack. I have seen two types of funpacks involving the 2nd UK wrapper. One contained a 14th series checklist, the other a 2nd UK checkist. I'm pretty sure the latter were still funpacks because some showed stickers not in the 2nd UK set (they appeared to be 8th series stickers). I own one of these that has Kong Fu showing which is a 2nd UK title. So the pack has a 2nd UK wrapper, checklist and sticker showing. But I know it only has one sticker (from weighing) and am pretty sure it's a funpack because of the other similar packs without 2nd UK stickers.
Obviously not everything can be factually nailed down 100%, all we can do is our best.
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You raise some good and valid questions here.
If you look at my "unopened pack reference library" thread, you'll see funpacks are the one type of pack I did not address, for the exact reason you cite. There isn't any way to really classify them. I personally view it as the wrapper/checklist combination, but that's my own arbitrary decision.
The term "funpack" isn't even well-defined, because I know for a fact that legitimate 11th series packs (11th yellow wrapper, 11th checklist, two 11th series stickers) have been found in fun bags. So some fun bags just recycled legit regular packs, while others had packs made for fun bags.
There's only been one instance I know of where there was confusion between a funpack and a regular pack. I have seen two types of funpacks involving the 2nd UK wrapper. One contained a 14th series checklist, the other a 2nd UK checkist. I'm pretty sure the latter were still funpacks because some showed stickers not in the 2nd UK set (they appeared to be 8th series stickers). I own one of these that has Kong Fu showing which is a 2nd UK title. So the pack has a 2nd UK wrapper, checklist and sticker showing. But I know it only has one sticker (from weighing) and am pretty sure it's a funpack because of the other similar packs without 2nd UK stickers.
Obviously not everything can be factually nailed down 100%, all we can do is our best.
How did you legitimize the 11th pack? Have you found a full box of those packs? If not, they are just as likely "funpacks". The 2nd UK wrapper fun packs is something I hadn't heard of.
Yes, the difficulty in nailing down 100% facts regarding an operation such as Topps whose quality control and consistency have been questioned is why I cautioned you of referring to one website as having more speculation than the other. We already see that potentially these "books" that you wanted credit for the info being printed that you suggested permissions might be needed to reproduce educational content are already potentially obsolete as new information, corrections and conclusions are drawn daily.
Some day I will proof read all of those links and will call out more typos, corrections, and speculations to help move this along. Then maybe I will print my book - void of the credits and poor man copyrights :-)
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How did you legitimize the 11th pack? Have you found a full box of those packs? If not, they are just as likely "funpacks".
I'm not sure what you mean. The yellow wrapper coded 0-478-85-01-4 was created specifically for the 11th series, and the code matches the 11th series box code. I'd say that makes these packs 11th series packs in every possible way.
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I like the Series 8 Blue pack instead of the easy to find orange. Years ago I bought a full box of series 8 blue packs, but I stupidly sold it about 5 years ago. The good news is that is helped put a big dent in the payment for a new in ground pool at my house. Which is also nice.
Orange is easier to find? I only have two OS packs that I've opened. 7th blue 21 fold, and 8th blue 85 fold.
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Orange is easier to find? I only have two OS packs that I've opened. 7th blue 21 fold, and 8th blue 85 fold.
8th Orange is much more common. But where did you get the 8th blue? And did the wrapper have the wall poster ad, or no ad?
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I got the 8th Blue off of eBay and it has the wall poster - Here is the actual scan front and back:
(https://s31.postimg.cc/ulvg5n6c7/8th_Series_Pack_Front.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ulvg5n6c7/)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/6fs5g5vev/8th_Series_Pack_Back_0_462_85_02_3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6fs5g5vev/)
Wrapper #0-462-85-02-3
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We already see that potentially these "books"...are already potentially obsolete as new information, corrections and conclusions are drawn daily.
The exact reason I do not care to cement any of this on paper or in any "book". Leave it out in cyberspace to be updated as needed, so I can always have the latest info.
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8th Orange is much more common. But where did you get the 8th blue? And did the wrapper have the wall poster ad, or no ad?
Wall poster ad, I got it off of eBay.
0-462-85-02-3
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I also just ordered an orange 13th pack.
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Opened the thirteenth, info above..
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Mark, since you seem interested in this, I will open an 8th blue pack so you can get an idea of what a legit pack is like.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/6bgxjhxgj/image.jpg)
Wrapper should not have any folds or creases in non-fold areas.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/p6h9nnmw3/image.jpg)
For 85-fold pack, bottom wrapper fold should overlay top fold.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/5pwk14rs3/image.jpg)
Other than series containing white backs, puzzle piece should always be against the seal (facing either way).
(https://s19.postimg.cc/tux9iuc2r/image.jpg)
Both stickers should have same number of asterisks, and should not have handling wear, though of course corners may be dinged. I opened a 1973 baseball pack once and the cards had pencil writing on them! Bad sign!
(https://s19.postimg.cc/oksarjrtv/image.jpg)
With certain rare exceptions, stickers should follow knight's move pattern, as shown on 8th sheet.
Damn, the Canadian Clod has perfect corners and nice centering, too bad it has a roller mark.
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Hmm thanks I guess. All the packs I've opened have had those attributes except the knights move.
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Upon inspection, I now know that the 7th and 8ths are definitely reseals. The checklist doesn't match the printing for the cards in either pack.
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Upon inspection, I now know that the 7th and 8ths are definitely reseals. The checklist doesn't match the printing for the cards in either pack.
You mean the checklist is not for the same series as the stickers???
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You mean the checklist is not for the same series as the stickers???
No I mean that the checklist for example had two asterisks, while the cards only had one.
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No I mean that the checklist for example had two asterisks, while the cards only had one.
That can happen in a legit pack, the checklists are from a totally different sheet, the stickers are from the same half-sheet.
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That can happen in a legit pack, the checklists are from a totally different sheet, the stickers are from the same half-sheet.
Oh okay. The cards all had the same asterisks.. The more you know.
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Oh okay. The cards all had the same asterisks.. The more you know.
This is interesting! For series in which checklists changed to reflect a change in the series such as Pupsi being removed, is there no correlation between the checklist run and the sticker run? Does this mean one could get a Pupsi in a pack with a non Pupsi puzzle? Same with Bum and Choke packs?
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This is interesting! For series in which checklists changed to reflect a change in the series such as Pupsi being removed, is there no correlation between the checklist run and the sticker run? Does this mean one could get a Pupsi in a pack with a non Pupsi puzzle? Same with Bum and Choke packs?
I don't think it's right to say there is no correlation. For example, by the end of the series run, I imagine the stickers and checklist were in sync.
In the 4th series, there was an intermediate sheet with no Bum, Choke, Mess or Windhex, and I imagine much of the time those stickers were in packs with a Bum/Choke checklist, to the immense frustration of diehard collectors.
So yes, there was likely an intermediate period where packs had a Pupsi checklist, but no chance at a Pupsi sticker. My guess would be the stickers were pulled before the checklists were corrected.
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a change in the series such as Pupsi being removed
Pupsi was added. >:D :P :]
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Pupsi was added. >:D :P :]
(https://s9.postimg.cc/6uafiii73/Screen_Shot_2016_09_01_at_9_12_50_PM.png)
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I can tell you this from my memory of buying and collecting packs at the local stores
"live" and "in person" when I was younger.
10th Series was released during the summer months, as I was staying down Cape Cod.
I remember getting Pupsi and it was on the stickers when the series was first out.
Not much later on, it was impossible to find one, but it was on the checklist. Then it
did get removed from the checklist, but I'm not sure (and probably impossible to
determine) if it was pulled first, then the checklist altered afterwards, or it both
were done at the same time.
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I can tell you this from my memory of buying and collecting packs at the local stores
"live" and "in person" when I was younger.
10th Series was released during the summer months, as I was staying down Cape Cod.
I remember getting Pupsi and it was on the stickers when the series was first out.
Not much later on, it was impossible to find one, but it was on the checklist. Then it
did get removed from the checklist, but I'm not sure (and probably impossible to
determine) if it was pulled first, then the checklist altered afterwards, or it both
were done at the same time.
This was my recollection as well. Although its odd I remember being in Cape Cod since I was in Logansport, Indiana at that time. But the rest rings true. ;)
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According to greg's recent unopened pack auction, "Now I should warn people that the majority of unopened packs floating around are fakes"...."Along with another wacky collector, one of the very very few with absolute integrity, we developed foolproof methods for validating packs. I won't publish that because it will also help the forgers"
Who is the other collector with absolute integrity? Having absolute integrity is really quite something. What exactly does that mean? Does it mean not a single thing the person does is for personal benefit? Does it mean the person never told a lie ever? This is absolutely stunning!
I guess we should all just kill our unopened packs as majority are fakes. :]
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I am getting ready to sell off a bunch of stuff and one of the things that I plan to sell is my framed set of six Original Series packs. One of each color.
Pictures available here:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskJdFoet
All of these packs are legit, sealed, packs. Details below:
2nd Series Red: 0-422-85-01-3
6th Series Blue: 0-462-21-01-3
8th Series Orange: 0-465-21-02-4
10th Series Purple: 0-477-85-01-4
12th Series Green: 0-407-85-01-4
14th Series Yellow: 0-489-21-01-5
I got the 2nd Series pack from Bill F (Kook on the forum) and it was verified by Dave S (Paul_Maul).
The 6th Series pack was one of 3 graded packs I bought several years ago.
The 8th and 10th Series packs came from Dave S.
The 12th and 14th series packs came from Greg G.
I would prefer to sell the entire set, in the frame, but will consider selling the packs individually if there is no interest in buying the whole display.
Before I post a price for this, I am working on coming up with a way to let all forum members have a shot at this instead of just the first person who happens to read this post!
Stay tuned folks!
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I am getting ready to sell off a bunch of stuff and one of the things that I plan to sell is my framed set of six Original Series packs. One of each color.
Pictures available here:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskJdFoet
All of these packs are legit, sealed, packs. Details below:
2nd Series Red: 0-422-85-01-3
6th Series Blue: 0-462-21-01-3
8th Series Orange: 0-465-21-02-4
10th Series Purple: 0-477-85-01-4
12th Series Green: 0-407-85-01-4
14th Series Yellow: 0-489-21-01-5
I got the 2nd Series pack from Bill F (Kook on the forum) and it was verified by Dave S (Paul_Maul).
The 6th Series pack was one of 3 graded packs I bought several years ago.
The 8th and 10th Series packs came from Dave S.
The 12th and 14th series packs came from Greg G.
I would prefer to sell the entire set, in the frame, but will consider selling the packs individually if there is no interest in buying the whole display.
Before I post a price for this, I am working on coming up with a way to let all forum members have a shot at this instead of just the first person who happens to read this post!
Stay tuned folks!
I don't visit this forum that often, when do you think you will have a price and the selling mechanism in place?
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My apologies everyone. The set of packs has been sold. I originally intended to try to set up some kind of "offer" system to buy the things I am getting ready to sell but I found I just don't have the time right now.
I am getting ready to sell a bunch of stuff in the next few days but I will post the items in the "Sell" threads.
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My apologies everyone. The set of packs has been sold. I originally intended to try to set up some kind of "offer" system to buy the things I am getting ready to sell but I found I just don't have the time right now.
I am getting ready to sell a bunch of stuff in the next few days but I will post the items in the "Sell" threads.
I really like how you had those packs framed. I don't know if I would have been interested in buying it as I don't likely have that kind of money now, but I have a similar set of six different colored packs. I could see framing mine as you did. Was your professionally framed? I couldn't quite tell from the pic, but was there glass over the front?
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I really like how you had those packs framed. I don't know if I would have been interested in buying it as I don't likely have that kind of money now, but I have a similar set of six different colored packs. I could see framing mine as you did. Was your professionally framed? I couldn't quite tell from the pic, but was there glass over the front?
I framed them myself. Here is a link to the post were I described how I did it:
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg31054#msg31054
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I framed them myself. Here is a link to the post were I described how I did it:
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=53.msg31054#msg31054
Thanks for the info! I'm not terribly handy, but it looks doable. I appreciate your taking the time to pass on the info!
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I did mine a bit different - I have posted this before:
Series 1-16 Unopened:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/9p3ofxob7/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9p3ofxob7/)
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I did mine a bit different - I have posted this before:
Series 1-16 Unopened:
(https://s13.postimg.org/9p3ofxob7/Series_1_16_Unopened_SET.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9p3ofxob7/)
Love it! Nothing like a bunch of unopened original series Wackys to make the heart beat faster. Well, maybe a few things...
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Thank you!
I would be REALLLLLY hard pressed if I had a Die-Cut unopened pack...... THAT would drive me RatzEE!