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Title: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on October 13, 2015, 08:20:33 PM
Mainly just entertaining myself here as I realize the 79-80 reissue are considered swill to most......but......

I just purchased a lot of around 700 series 3 stickers that look to be maybe the cleanest I have ever seen. They appear to have been stored since new and the back story supports it. I'm very excited to see them. Supremely white edges and sharp corners in the pics anyway.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: BumChex on October 14, 2015, 10:24:13 AM
Look what I framed!]
(http://i61.tinypic.com/igb0yd.jpg)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: BumChex on October 14, 2015, 10:25:09 AM
Look what I framed!]
(http://i61.tinypic.com/igb0yd.jpg)

Sorry for such a big picture but Imagepost is down and I used TinyPic.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on October 14, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
Sorry for such a big picture but Imagepost is down and I used TinyPic.

Nice series 3 sheet Brad! I don't have room to display my set of sheets.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: BustedFinger on October 15, 2015, 09:50:31 AM
I was looking at my Reissue Series 1 sheet the other day and noticed it has really faded badly.  I am probably looking to buy another one.  One thing about that 1st reissue series is that there are tons of great original titles in there.  It's like a Wacky greatest hits!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: BumChex on October 15, 2015, 10:04:37 AM
I was looking at my Reissue Series 1 sheet the other day and noticed it has really faded badly.  I am probably looking to buy another one.  One thing about that 1st reissue series is that there are tons of great original titles in there.  It's like a Wacky greatest hits!

Plus you can still get them cheap. All i need now is a reissue 2nd series sheet.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 10:00:46 AM
I know Paul_Maul will cringe when he reads this but I'm bored and need to post something........

I just cracked the 25% complete mark for my PSA Reissue run! lol

I try to get them as inexpensively as possible so that's why its taking forever lol.

Here is the latest batch , 1 PSA8, 8 PSA9 and 2 PSA10




(http://s4.postimg.org/ecjhfix8p/IMG_2391.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ecjhfix8p/)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 10:05:23 AM
Plus I created this large checklist sheet so as I add new ones I can fill in the box just like I did when collecting the stickers as a kid lol....


(http://s7.postimg.org/wwg7yiphz/IMG_2392.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wwg7yiphz/)
Great the pic posted upside down
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on January 03, 2016, 10:25:11 AM
Plus I created this large checklist sheet so as I add new ones I can fill in the box just like I did when collecting the stickers as a kid lol....


For my PSA OS1-16 checklist, I photocopied the pages from "The Beat Goes On."  I can write the grade next to it, and make a note if I want to upgrade a particular sticker for some reason.

What do you usually end up paying for the PSA reissues?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 10:44:03 AM
Usually between $3.99 and $5.99
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2016, 01:30:17 PM
I know Paul_Maul will cringe when he reads this but I'm bored and need to post something........

I just cracked the 25% complete mark for my PSA Reissue run! lol




I don't cringe, I like re-issues and was still buying when they came out. I've been investing a fair amount of effort in obtaining mint ones, but I can't see going for PSAs due to space and the cost of getting them graded vs. post-grading value. But I like 'em!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2016, 02:50:19 PM
For my PSA OS1-16 checklist, I photocopied the pages from "The Beat Goes On."  I can write the grade next to it, and make a note if I want to upgrade a particular sticker for some reason.

What do you usually end up paying for the PSA reissues?

One of the nice things about the PSA set registry is you can use it as a checklist, including writing comments if you want. You don't have to publish it publicly if you don't want to.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 03:42:06 PM
Set registry? Hmm. I may have to check into that and register or whatever I need to do. Does it cost to post your sets?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2016, 04:45:04 PM
Set registry? Hmm. I may have to check into that and register or whatever I need to do. Does it cost to post your sets?

Set registry is completely free...and there are others who think like you do....

http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4883 (http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4883)

http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4890 (http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4890)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 06:46:10 PM
Ok cool I'm in now. I just need to update the sets when I get my collection back after the house is rebuilt.

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 03, 2016, 06:47:52 PM
By the way, if anyone comes up with anything reissue related for sale......keep me in mind. I need something to kill the boredom while I'm in this rental house..............ugh..............4 or 5 months I'm sure..............
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 03, 2016, 06:56:27 PM
I didn't realize you were on the set registry since 2007. Cool!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2016, 03:12:26 AM
By the way, if anyone comes up with anything reissue related for sale......keep me in mind. I need something to kill the boredom while I'm in this rental house..............ugh..............4 or 5 months I'm sure..............

Do you have any of your collection with you, or is it all in storage? 
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2016, 03:22:20 AM
One of the nice things about the PSA set registry is you can use it as a checklist, including writing comments if you want. You don't have to publish it publicly if you don't want to.

The only registry sets I've looked at up until now were yours, and I thought I needed scans of each item to use the registry, which is a lot of time.  But, looks like I don't need to do that first, which makes it a lot more attractive!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 04, 2016, 03:29:47 AM
The only registry sets I've looked at up until now were yours, and I thought I needed scans of each item to use the registry, which is a lot of time.  But, looks like I don't need to do that first, which makes it a lot more attractive!

No, you don't need scans at all. I like including scans for several reasons:

1. It's a way to enjoy my stuff without having to handle it
2. I like to look at other people's scans
3. I don't like the idea of collecting PSA grades, we're collecting wackys and I like that to be seen
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on January 04, 2016, 03:50:26 AM
No, you don't need scans at all. I like in including scans for several reasons:

1. It's a way to enjoy my stuff without having to handle it
2. I like to look at other people's scans
3. I don't like the idea of collecting PSA grades, we're collecting wackys and I like that to be seen

I agree wholeheartedly with your reasons, and will want to eventually add scans.  But, it's nice to know I can start the list first.  My current computer setup is pathetic, and at the moment, scanning and then posting is a true chore.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 04, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
Have some vacation time, so I am going through my re-issue sets, integrating several complete sets I've acquired this year. One thing is becoming clear for the first series...Bustedfinger is the toughest title to find centered. I have about 10 otherwise perfect copies, but they are all either miscut or very OC toward the bottom of the card (held vertically). I checked the PSA Population and while no reissues are heavily submitted, there is only 1 graded Bustedfinger...an 8.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 04, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
Do you have any of your collection with you, or is it all in storage?
I grabbed 1 series 1 reissue set before they packed it all up. I needed something to thumb through and look at to keep my sanity. Other than that....I have about 100 singles I just picked up on Ebay.

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 04, 2016, 06:29:27 PM
I didn't realize you were on the set registry since 2007. Cool!
The funny thing is ...neither did I lol. I completely forgot that I had attempted to list the ones I had and then lost interest because I had so few at that time. I was looking through my password sheet and saw PSA and then realized I must have registered at some point. I just logged in and refreshed the sets. I have a stack of PSA's I will add when I get back into the house.
I'm thinking about also actually buying one of there packages and sending in my own to be graded. That way I can send in the ones I need.
I'm still looking for a PSA 10 Ice Krunkles too. I'm pretty sure I don't have one. I have about 8 or 9 of them graded but I think the highest is a 9.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 04, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
That's the problem, every time you submit a re-issue and don't get a 10 you lose money. I can see doing it as a labor of love, but it's a money losing proposition.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 04, 2016, 06:46:14 PM
That's the problem, every time you submit a re-issue and don't get a 10 you lose money. I can see doing it as a labor of love, but it's a money losing proposition.
Yeah I don't care about the money part. I also am not hung up on all 10's. I prefer 9's but If its an 8 or better I'm fine. I do want to try for a PSA 10 Ice Krunkles but that's it.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 22, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
I'm looking at a Jail-O 79 test sticker on Ebay that Tedjeffrey has up for sale. Can someone that look and confirm that it is absolutely a 79 test sticker please?

I'm trying to get his price down to a more reasonable level but I want to be sure its a legit test sticker before I decide to pull the trigger.

I just wanted one example of the sticker and one wrapper to add to the Reissue Museum.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on January 22, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
It is a 1979 test sticker, the upper left and lower right corners come to a sharp point as opposed to the rounded corners of the normal Jail-O.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 22, 2016, 07:02:14 PM
Very nice. Thank you very much. May I ask what a decent price would be in your opinion?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Tom Keen on January 22, 2016, 07:48:58 PM
Low supply but low demand on these so tough to say what they are worth.  HE has had it for sale for at least 4 months assuming this hasn't been relisted over and over too.  Doesn't he mostly sell on consignment?  Try to find who actually owns this and cut a direct deal.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 24, 2016, 07:45:36 AM
ok thank you. Yes, the low supply plus low demand does create an odd situation for determining market value

I ran into this when I purchased the reissue shipping boxes from another long time collector....very hard to value
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 24, 2016, 08:38:19 AM
price is a tough call
As a data point for you, 4 years ago I did win a complete Test 'pack' (a wrapper + 5 stickers) off eBay for a little less than the current auction price for just that one Jail-O.
Maybe I got really lucky that there wasn't a bidding war that day, as I really thought it would go for a lot more than it did.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 24, 2016, 12:05:30 PM
price is a tough call
As a data point for you, 4 years ago I did win a complete Test 'pack' (a wrapper + 5 stickers) off eBay for a little less than the current auction price for just that one Jail-O.
Maybe I got really lucky that there wasn't a bidding war that day, as I really thought it would go for a lot more than it did.

Interesting. have you a single sticker you may want to part with?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 24, 2016, 04:29:44 PM
Interesting. have you a single sticker you may want to part with?
sorry, no extras
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 24, 2016, 05:17:41 PM
sorry, no extras

Well then......how am I supposed to grow the worlds most complete reissue museum? :)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on January 25, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
Well then......how am I supposed to grow the worlds most complete reissue museum? :)
there's always that dude that's selling photos of cool stuff.  :-\

eBay auction: #272114843490
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 25, 2016, 06:17:11 PM
there's always that dude that's selling photos of cool stuff.  :-\

eBay auction: #272114843490

How funny....I just saw that auction again today and for a millisecond got super excited...then realized it was a photo.
I cant stand that.......does anyone ever buy that crap? So frustrating.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: drono on January 25, 2016, 08:24:16 PM
There was a case on Judge Judy where someone bought a photo of an iPhone from eBay.  The auction listing clearly said that it was a photo, but  JJ called the seller a "scam artist" and refunded the plaintiff's money.

I can't imagine why anyone would want a 5x7 photo of a box, so it must be intended to be a scam.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on January 26, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
I cant stand that.......does anyone ever buy that crap? So frustrating.
I have that seller excluded from my Wacky search. Never subjected to his garbage anymore.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on January 26, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
I have that seller excluded from my Wacky search. Never subjected to his garbage anymore.
That's a good idea. More than once have I almost jumped to quickly and clicked the BIN lol
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: FourRoses on January 28, 2016, 09:49:41 AM
Look what I framed!]
(http://i61.tinypic.com/igb0yd.jpg)

I'd like to know where you found a frame that fits an uncut sheet. Everything out here is only goes as big as half a sheet.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on January 28, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
I'd like to know where you found a frame that fits an uncut sheet. Everything out here is only goes as big as half a sheet.
I have had a couple of full sheets (and items of similar size) framed, but you have to have it done custom. I go to Michael's, but I would think that most craft type stores have a framing dept. Yeah, it can cost a few bucks, but it's worth it to protect/display it.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: vahsurfer on January 28, 2016, 05:20:51 PM
BigTomi - I do the same - a few bucks - but professional and protected!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: drono on January 29, 2016, 07:55:39 PM
Michael's is always running 40% off sales on custom framing.  However, I've found a local place that's cheaper, has better options, and works with me much better.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 04, 2016, 04:04:14 AM
There was an auction for a group of OPC reissue wrappers I wanted that ended last night at midnight. I was not going to stay up and snipe it so I just put a little higher max bid than I normally would have. When I logged in this morning I saw that I did win but that there was a high number of bids. In the bid history it shows a new bidder jumped in at the last few minutes and placed 16 consecutive bids in $2.00 increments. I can't say I have seen this before. Does it sound like I was run up to anyone or was it simply a bidder having a bid spaz lol?
Its not a big deal either way because I still scored on this auction but I am always curious about things like that.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 04, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
A lot of people bid incrementally that way. That's why you should always snipe. If you can't stay up, use a sniping service.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on February 04, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
A lot of people bid incrementally that way.
Because a lot of people don't understand eBay's proxy bidding.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: BustedFinger on February 04, 2016, 03:55:30 PM
A lot of people bid incrementally that way. That's why you should always snipe. If you can't stay up, use a sniping service.

I still use www.gixen.com  It has always worked well for me!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 04, 2016, 06:18:15 PM
Because a lot of people don't understand eBay's proxy bidding.
I wish I could have heard him as he kept bidding and Ebay bumped me up each time lol......he finally gave up lol.

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Tom Keen on February 05, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
There was an auction for a group of OPC reissue wrappers I wanted that ended last night at midnight. I was not going to stay up and snipe it so I just put a little higher max bid than I normally would have. When I logged in this morning I saw that I did win but that there was a high number of bids. In the bid history it shows a new bidder jumped in at the last few minutes and placed 16 consecutive bids in $2.00 increments. I can't say I have seen this before. Does it sound like I was run up to anyone or was it simply a bidder having a bid spaz lol?
Its not a big deal either way because I still scored on this auction but I am always curious about things like that.
You were run up, no question about it.  Same bidder did this on one of the other wrapper auctions by this same seller and just happened to stop both times right under the lead bidder max bid.  Never put an advance proxy bid with anything other than nice round even $ amounts as it makes it harder for shill bidders to find your cap.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 05, 2016, 07:24:39 PM
You were run up, no question about it.  Same bidder did this on one of the other wrapper auctions by this same seller and just happened to stop both times right under the lead bidder max bid.  Never put an advance proxy bid with anything other than nice round even $ amounts as it makes it harder for shill bidders to find your cap.
Ok thanks for the advice. I'm just glad he didn't push it to my max bid. I'm very happy with the price I paid.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 05, 2016, 07:32:30 PM
You were run up, no question about it.  Same bidder did this on one of the other wrapper auctions by this same seller and just happened to stop both times right under the lead bidder max bid.  Never put an advance proxy bid with anything other than nice round even $ amounts as it makes it harder for shill bidders to find your cap.
Your right, I looked at other auctions and that same guy did it there too. Even though I'm ok with the price I paid it still makes me a bit mad that the seller would engage in practices like that. Its almost tempting to try and report it but I don't have the staying power to follow that through at the moment.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: drono on February 05, 2016, 08:01:58 PM
It's difficult to prove, but it looks like a shill bidder -- lots of bids but never wins.  I didn't see any bid retractions though.

On another note -- $19.99 for a 1982 OPC wrapper, $9.99 for a 1985!  I might have to track mine down and start selling them on eBay.

And what's the deal with the OPC 15th series Wormy Packages checklists?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1975-OPC-WACKY-PACKAGES-card-15TH-SERIES-CHECKLIST-Canada-edition-/161910937367?hash=item25b2a4d717:g:NvMAAOSwf-VWZbwP

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1975-OPC-WACKY-PACKAGES-card-15TH-SERIES-CHECKLIST-Canada-edition-/161910936503?hash=item25b2a4d3b7:g:5ZIAAOSwnipWZbvK

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1975-OPC-WACKY-PACKAGES-card-15TH-SERIES-CHECKLIST-Canada-edition-/161910934356?hash=item25b2a4cb54:g:Ws0AAOSw7FRWZbra

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1975-OPC-WACKY-PACKAGES-card-15TH-SERIES-CHECKLIST-Canada-edition-/161910935670?hash=item25b2a4d076:g:R1sAAOSwNphWZbuX
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on February 06, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
Same bidder did this on one of the other wrapper auctions by this same seller and just happened to stop both times right under the lead bidder max bid.
Jeff, did this "shiller" stop at the exact point where your max bid was? Your one remark implies the answer to this is no, hence the above quoted remark is not true and indicates a misunderstanding of proxy bidding: Ebay will only bid as high as necessary to cause you to win, up to your max amount. If Jeff's winning bid was just above this shiller's highest bid, that's just eBay doing its thing. In that case, the shiller is not a shiller at all, just someone trying to win...and not understanding the whole picture.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 06, 2016, 10:49:07 AM
Bid retractions are the surest sign of shilling. This incremental bidding is commonplace and mostly a sign of a clueless bidder trying to gauge item value.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on February 06, 2016, 11:14:44 AM
This incremental bidding is commonplace and mostly a sign of a clueless bidder trying to gauge item value.
That may be, but IMO it's more a sign of the bidder not understanding how eBay works. They think eBay functions like a "normal" auction in that your bids are actual only: a bid is what you're willing to pay, period. When there are a bunch of people sitting in a room bidding, this is true; on eBay, it is not. For whatever reason, there are folks who can't comprehend (or just don't know) the difference and believe they should only bid exactly what they wish to pay. It is both frustrating and pathetic. LOL
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on February 06, 2016, 01:17:26 PM
That may be. It just seems like there are bidders who will keep bidding until they outbid the current leader. I always figure they have no idea what the item is really worth and just figure if the current leader has bid a certain amount, it must be reasonable to match it. That's the main reason I find sniping so essential.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 06, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
Jeff, did this "shiller" stop at the exact point where your max bid was? Your one remark implies the answer to this is no, hence the above quoted remark is not true and indicates a misunderstanding of proxy bidding: Ebay will only bid as high as necessary to cause you to win, up to your max amount. If Jeff's winning bid was just above this shiller's highest bid, that's just eBay doing its thing. In that case, the shiller is not a shiller at all, just someone trying to win...and not understanding the whole picture.
No, my max bid was a good ways higher than where it ended. I fully understand EBay's Proxy bidding system, I may just be looking too hard at a bidder who was not completely understanding it himself as you stated. No way to know for sure I suppose. Its almost the behavior of a bored bidder that has no real intention of winning.....and had he actually overtaken my max bid we may have seen a bid retraction.
Thinking deeper, my analyzing this situation in the first place is the sign of a really bored person lol........someone please tell the construction crew to hurry up rebuilding my home lol.......I need out of this rental before I spend too much money on Ebay!!

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 06, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
On another note, as of late, I'm surprised at the last few sticker auctions I have won and received. First of all, its clear that there are many sellers who do not understand that how you pack stickers and cards, greatly affects the condition that they arrive in lol. I just got in an almost complete run of reissues and the guy just stuffed them in with some bubble wrap. Its cool in this case because this was a set that was put together and enjoyed.....thumbed through often (evidence of this in the dirty edges), checklists marked and some dinged corners. It still frustrates me that more care is not taken in packing and shipping this stuff.

OH this is a little side note: I didn't want to start a new thread for this....THANKS TO BILL FOR THE HEADS UP ON  THE SWEET ALL-BRAIN SKETCH CARD I JUST WON!! THANKS!!

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Tom Keen on February 07, 2016, 08:06:15 PM
Jeff, did this "shiller" stop at the exact point where your max bid was? Your one remark implies the answer to this is no, hence the above quoted remark is not true and indicates a misunderstanding of proxy bidding: Ebay will only bid as high as necessary to cause you to win, up to your max amount. If Jeff's winning bid was just above this shiller's highest bid, that's just eBay doing its thing. In that case, the shiller is not a shiller at all, just someone trying to win...and not understanding the whole picture.
I was incorrect on All Brains's bid but the other auction was taken right to the highest bidders high bid.  I don't even have to check other auctions, I am certain this was a run up, nobody bids like that several minutes before the end of auctions and stops with losing bids consistently under the guise of clueless.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 14, 2016, 12:52:43 PM
I'm ready for Toppy to let loose of a couple more reissue items from the Vault. I wonder if there is anything left?
I would love something exciting to be able to bid on.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on February 14, 2016, 04:21:44 PM
I'm ready for Toppy to let loose of a couple more reissue items from the Vault. I wonder if there is anything left?
I would love something exciting to be able to bid on.
I haven't seen anything except new ANS art from the Vault in a long, long time. They need to dig into the back corners again. there's gotta be more stuff!
something like a re-issue 5 prototype box artwork would be insane.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 14, 2016, 06:27:47 PM
I haven't seen anything except new ANS art from the Vault in a long, long time. They need to dig into the back corners again. there's gotta be more stuff!
something like a re-issue 5 prototype box artwork would be insane.

Holy cow....you just blew my mind! Now THAT would get me bidding!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on February 26, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
Does anyone have any reissue swill of any kind they want to sell? I'm so bored I need to shake the bushes and see whats falls out. Gotta be something halfway interesting out there.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: shermgor99 on April 16, 2016, 03:31:08 PM
Set registry is completely free...and there are others who think like you do....

http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4883 (http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4883)

http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4890 (http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/composite.aspx?c=4890)

Hey Guys,

I am Ajerx on PSA. I am getting real close to finishing my PSA 1979-80 set!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: shermgor99 on April 16, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Does anyone have any reissue swill of any kind they want to sell? I'm so bored I need to shake the bushes and see whats falls out. Gotta be something halfway interesting out there.

I have tons of extra PSA reissues. Just stop calling them swill and I will see what I can do for you  :great:
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on April 17, 2016, 02:38:12 AM
I have tons of extra PSA reissues. Just stop calling them swill and I will see what I can do for you  :great:

Welcome to the forum!

Don't be too put off by the term swill - it's nothing against the Reissues, it is just used because there are so VERY many of them out there.

All-Brain is the Reissue King, and if you look around the forum for his posts, you'll find some great pictures of his display.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on April 21, 2016, 03:58:23 AM
I have tons of extra PSA reissues. Just stop calling them swill and I will see what I can do for you  :great:
Welcome to the forum. I dont consider the 79-80 reissues swill at all, however some folks do and I was only having fun :)

We just moved back into our house after a 6 month rebuild and I just saw your post. Congrats on being so close to completion on your PSA run!!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on April 21, 2016, 05:06:48 AM
So glad to hear that you're back in your house!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Hustler08 on April 21, 2016, 08:10:22 AM
I haven't seen anything except new ANS art from the Vault in a long, long time. They need to dig into the back corners again. there's gotta be more stuff!
something like a re-issue 5 prototype box artwork would be insane.

Did you see when  they auctioned off a Reissue Series 5 Checklist - B&W - i missed out on the auction bid but it was pretty cool....so they were planning a Reissue Series 5....
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: lucidjc on April 21, 2016, 10:51:39 AM
Pictures, or it never happened.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on April 21, 2016, 05:49:37 PM

(http://s31.postimg.org/y0qtqmnjr/IMG_2627_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y0qtqmnjr/)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: lucidjc on April 21, 2016, 07:43:03 PM
(http://s31.postimg.org/y0qtqmnjr/IMG_2627_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y0qtqmnjr/)

nice - N - Thanks
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on April 22, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
Did you see when  they auctioned off a Reissue Series 5 Checklist - B&W - i missed out on the auction bid but it was pretty cool....so they were planning a Reissue Series 5....
Yes, I believe I was the first to post about it back on Greg's forum.
A stunning revelation!
There was the pic of the wrapper in the Gallery, but to see the titles proposed. Yowza!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on April 22, 2016, 11:48:37 PM
(http://s31.postimg.org/y0qtqmnjr/IMG_2627_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y0qtqmnjr/)

What's on the reverse?  I have the fan produced 9 checklists with Sneer as the puzzle, and it's a crying shame they didn't release that set - there are some great Wackys there!  And with the die-cut and Series 16 titles, many would have been completely new to me in 1979.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on May 15, 2016, 08:07:35 AM
I recently found and purchased a white back 1st series reissue sheet. It would seem that some made it out of the factory without having the backs printed. Very cool find for me.

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 15, 2016, 08:38:35 AM
Pictures, or it never happened.

http://www.lostwackys.com/Lost-Wackys/1980--5th-series.htm
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 24, 2019, 07:53:08 PM
 I am moving the discussion about the Bond Bread reissue sheets to this thread.

 I have opened a few 1st series packs to have some verified original stickers to compare die cuts with the sheets I know came from the warehouse find. When I peeled matching stickers from the pack and the sheet and then swapped them, the die cuts did not match exactly. See the pic below.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QHs1nyTX/Reissue-die-cut.png) (https://postimg.cc/QHs1nyTX)

I then also peeled matching stickers from the packs and swapped them with each other for comparison. Some of those also did not line up exactly. I will say that the original sticker-sheet swap seemed to have a larger difference than the original sticker-original sticker swap, but, I think without knowing what variation in diecuts it normal, its still not giving me any solid information.

I also varified that I can see die cut impressions on the back of the sheets and also peeled the backing on the front to varify.

At this point, other than the slight variance in the die cut pattern, I see no large difference in these sheets.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: NationalSpittoon on July 25, 2019, 03:41:44 AM
Ow, you defiled the sheet. I guess it’s in the means of science, though, correct?  :]
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 25, 2019, 04:14:35 AM
I have two sheets that are super rough....they were used as protective covers to ship several nice sheets in between lol
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Crazy Zoo Keeper on July 25, 2019, 10:57:58 AM
I am moving the discussion about the Bond Bread reissue sheets to this thread.

 I have opened a few 1st series packs to have some verified original stickers to compare die cuts with the sheets I know came from the warehouse find. When I peeled matching stickers from the pack and the sheet and then swapped them, the die cuts did not match exactly. See the pic below.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QHs1nyTX/Reissue-die-cut.png) (https://postimg.cc/QHs1nyTX)

I then also peeled matching stickers from the packs and swapped them with each other for comparison. Some of those also did not line up exactly. I will say that the original sticker-sheet swap seemed to have a larger difference than the original sticker-original sticker swap, but, I think without knowing what variation in diecuts it normal, its still not giving me any solid information.

I also varified that I can see die cut impressions on the back of the sheets and also peeled the backing on the front to varify.

At this point, other than the slight variance in the die cut pattern, I see no large difference in these sheets.

Excellent start.  This would suggest that the Bond sheets did not undergo laser die-cutting.

If there was only one run and one printing location, there should be 4 different legitimate die cut variations for each original Reissue sticker (2 per slit A&B).  If you get a large group of stickers as a sample, you can look at a single title and compare all of the * with * and the ** with **.  Each should yield 2 different patterns.  If there are more than 2 per slit, then one or more of the following occurred: there were multiple print runs, multiple printing locations, the dies got damaged/sharpened or altered slightly from repeated use, some Bond stickers got cut up and mixed in.  Then compare these with the die cuts on the sheet.  Looking forward to seeing your next update!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on July 25, 2019, 04:42:04 PM
Wow, this is all really cool.  I remember burning packs & stickers just for the sake of research.  I admire your dedication.  It's cool to see the Reissues gaining some respect, too.  That huge lot of series-1's, that practically fall from the sky there's so many, kind of ruined the appeal of the repros.  But I remember some people scouring everywhere for series-2 & never finding them.  I only remember seeing 1 or 2 of those sheets in collectors hands ever.  Don't recall which ones I owned.  But the reissue sheets are a great way to display Wackys without breaking the bank, for sure.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 25, 2019, 07:32:18 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/477bGQqN/Research.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/477bGQqN)

Crazy Zoo Keeper, wow I had not even thought of the slit A&B issue. I am glad you are thinking more clearly on this. Your helping to keep me thinking correctly and I appreiciate that. I need to take a step back and re-group. Maybe prepare a little more and dig out and set up my material to obtain better results.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: MoldRush on July 25, 2019, 07:38:12 PM
Wow, this is all really cool.  I remember burning packs & stickers just for the sake of research.  I admire your dedication.  It's cool to see the Reissues gaining some respect, too.  That huge lot of series-1's, that practically fall from the sky there's so many, kind of ruined the appeal of the repros.  But I remember some people scouring everywhere for series-2 & never finding them.  I only remember seeing 1 or 2 of those sheets in collectors hands ever.  Don't recall which ones I owned.  But the reissue sheets are a great way to display Wackys without breaking the bank, for sure.
It’s funny to me now to hear that Reissue 2nd Series are the hardest to come by.  When the Reissues came out I was initially thrilled beyond belief to see Wackys again, but that euphoria was short-lived, as I quickly realized that I was only seeing a fraction of what I remembered, as vague and hazy as those memories were.  And there was no explanation for the format, nowhere to go for answers.  In particular, Series 2 seemed to stay in stores FOREVER, to the point I thought the run would end there.  In my desperation to see more, I kept buying packs even after I finished the set twice over, almost thinking I’d find something new within those yellow wrappers.  So to me, Series 2 has always seemed disproportionately abundant rather than rare, because of those experiences.  In general all my Reissues have a ton of surface rub wear, from flipping through them hundreds of times.  Other than the ‘82 album stickers, which featured a few more originals, they would be my only lifeline to the OS I longed for until the fateful day in 1997 I discovered The Wrapper.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 25, 2019, 07:41:59 PM
Toadallydude,

  Yes, that hard 2nd series sheet....took me forever to locate one. Mike Gidwitz had one and I eventually was able to work a deal with him. What an interesting guy. Had a great phone conversation with him years ago.

  As for the reissues in general, It still surprises me a little at how much grief they get from original series collectors. For me, the entire thing is the nostalgia of it. The fact that the reissues were when I first discovered Wacky Packages makes them just as cool and important to me as the originals are to others. I mean, at first I went crazy and purchaed tons or OS stuff, I "sealed the deal" and had a complete 1-16 run, a complete AD set, Hostess Double set, and so on. Then realized that all of that did not carry the heart felt meaning for me that the reissues did and I sold off everything that was not reissue related.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: MoldRush on July 25, 2019, 07:49:13 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/477bGQqN/Research.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/477bGQqN)

Crazy Zoo Keeper, wow I had not even thought of the slit A&B issue. I am glad you are thinking more clearly on this. Your helping to keep me thinking correctly and I appreiciate that. I need to take a step back and re-group. Maybe prepare a little more and dig out and set up my material to obtain better results.
Rather than focusing on overall shape/size, seeing if stickers can be swapped without any gaps, etc., maybe a more definitive strategy (and one that doesn’t require any peeling) is to do a close comparison of corner details of the diecuts.  Didn’t the 86 albums have some shape variations at corners?   Maybe something like that exists between original 79 singles and the Bond bread sheets.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: MoldRush on July 25, 2019, 07:55:42 PM
Toadallydude,

  Yes, that hard 2nd series sheet....took me forever to locate one. Mike Gidwitz had one and I eventually was able to work a deal with him. What an interesting guy. Had a great phone conversation with him years ago.

  As for the reissues in general, It still surprises me a little at how much grief they get from original series collectors. For me, the entire thing is the nostalgia of it. The fact that the reissues were when I first discovered Wacky Packages makes them just as cool and important to me as the originals are to others. I mean, at first I went crazy and purchaed tons or OS stuff, I "sealed the deal" and had a complete 1-16 run, a complete AD set, Hostess Double set, and so on. Then realized that all of that did not carry the heart felt meaning for me that the reissues did and I sold off everything that was not reissue related.
I feel you.  Though I did have my initial exposure during OS 1-16, I completely missed 5 or 6 different series for whatever reason, and I’ve mostly pursued the ones that had that nostalgic pull.  Doesn’t mean the other sets weren’t just as good, but it’s all about recapturing those memories.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on July 27, 2019, 05:41:40 PM
Yes, that hard 2nd series sheet....took me forever to locate one.
Being a collector as long as I have been, I was aware that 2nd reissue stickers were the hardest to find. However, I am mildly surprised to hear about the 2nd sheet being so difficult and so few ever seen. I own two full sheets (132 stickers each) of '79 2nd series. One is in a huge top loader and a bit rough and the other is framed and hanging on my wall, but the stickers are starting to separate from the backing. Bummer. I guess just not framed quite properly and hanging the way it has for so long has done some damage.  :sad:
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 27, 2019, 07:02:28 PM
That's awesome on the 2nd series sheets! Those large top loaders are great for storing them in. I have a super nice example of each of the 4 sheets in top loaders and then a lesser quality 3rd and 4th as well. Oh and of course a small stack of 1st series sheets as well.

When you look at my collection its obvious the 2nd series is in less supply than the other series for sure. The only gaping hole in the collection is that I am still missing a nice full 2nd series box :(


Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on July 27, 2019, 07:51:24 PM

When you look at my collection its obvious the 2nd series is in less supply than the other series for sure. The only gaping hole in the collection is that I am still missing a nice full 2nd series box :(

Because you sold it to me 12 years ago! I remember it clearly because it was a few days before my son was born 🙂
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 27, 2019, 07:55:02 PM
I know I have regretted that sale ever since. It was the nicest example I had ever seen. It went to a good home though. :)


Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on July 28, 2019, 03:56:49 AM

When you look at my collection its obvious the 2nd series is in less supply than the other series for sure. The only gaping hole in the collection is that I am still missing a nice full 2nd series box :(

Would this be acceptable condition to fill the gaping hole?  I'm trying to find what I paid for it, but I know it wasn't cheap.  Send me a PM - I hate thinking about the missing piece in your collection!

(https://i.postimg.cc/4mvFhZDb/100-1282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4mvFhZDb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QBC6P7H0/100-1283.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBC6P7H0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/V00vHK8m/100-1284.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V00vHK8m)

(https://i.postimg.cc/JtssnzBv/100-1285.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtssnzBv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/z34VRYCB/100-1286.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z34VRYCB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bZhr30Ff/100-1287.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZhr30Ff)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xcHqvp5P/100-1288.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xcHqvp5P)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 28, 2019, 01:42:43 PM
My goodness. Yes, I would be super grateful to own that box. Im not sure I can afford it but I absolutely do want it. I sent you a PM. Let me know what your thinking and we can figure something out. I have been monitoring reissue sales for like 15 plus years constantly and have seen them go for various prices. I'm super excited you have this and are willing to sell it. Thank you!!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on July 28, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
RawGoo,
Here is the gaping hole you are helping to fill. The middle shelf is for FULL boxes. Notice NO second series boxes lol.
 The bottom shelf is all empty boxes.


(https://i.postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD/Reisue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on July 28, 2019, 02:29:15 PM
RawGoo,
Here is the gaping hole you are helping to fill. The middle shelf is for FULL boxes. Notice NO second series boxes lol.
 The bottom shelf is all empty boxes.


(https://i.postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD/Reisue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD)

That is a gaping hole!  PM sent.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 01, 2019, 12:17:54 PM
Toadallydude,

  Yes, that hard 2nd series sheet....took me forever to locate one. Mike Gidwitz had one and I eventually was able to work a deal with him. What an interesting guy. Had a great phone conversation with him years ago.

How is Mike these days?  Last time I saw him was probably early 2000s when he was in CA to sell the Honus Wagner card.  John and I hung out with him for a while at the card show before & after.  Major player in early Wacky Art days. 
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 01, 2019, 12:24:57 PM
RawGoo,
Here is the gaping hole you are helping to fill. The middle shelf is for FULL boxes. Notice NO second series boxes lol.
 The bottom shelf is all empty boxes.


(https://i.postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD/Reisue.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN5VfwpD)

Wow... impressive Re-issue box collection there.  Makes me wish I'd bought up all the ones I had access to at some of the card & comic shops in CA that had loads of full boxes well into the 90's, usually accompanied by GPK series 2-15.  The 1985 & 1991 full boxes were $5 a box for a long time too.  I wonder if those will ever gain renewed interest years later like the Re-issues.  The good thing about the Wacky Re-issues vs. Star Wars is that Lucas didn't add a bunch of silly CG characters to them!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 01, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
Reissues don’t really have that much interest.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: MoldRush on August 01, 2019, 04:43:32 PM
Reissues don’t really have that much interest.
Reissues played an important role for kids like me who managed to lose everything they had from OS five minutes after getting it.  Being a few years older by ‘79, I had become much more tuned in and organized from the standpoint of keeping my stuff stashed and out of sight within the household.  Earlier, just leaving my stuff lying around, having the attention span of a housefly, is what made everything disappear.  My parents just had no patience for it.  Anyway, the Reissues at least checked a few boxes in my Wacky memory until I could re-acquire original series years later.  Gotta appreciate them for that at least.  And there were plenty of the most iconic titles in the mix.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: MoldRush on August 01, 2019, 04:46:15 PM
Of course for those like Jeff whose first experience with Wackys happened to be the Reissues, they mean everything, which he has amply demonstrated.  Heck, there are probably collectors who concentrate on the ‘82 album stickers if that’s where they got started.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on August 01, 2019, 04:49:30 PM
Toad,

  I have not spoken to Mike is years. I was just mainly around the time I found out he has the 2nd series sheet I needed so badly. I would love to meet him and tour his place. I wish I could remember everything he told me over the phone about his collection of art. Just what he spends on framing alone blew my mind. Incredible collector from what I understood.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on August 01, 2019, 05:48:19 PM
Reissues don’t really have that much interest.
I think what is meant by this (not to speak for Dave and I'm sure he'll correct me if I misinterpret) is that when Wacky collectors get together, in general, like at the Allentown show, we don't see any real reissue activity. The general interest in them is next to nothing. As you'd imagine, the OS, dies and Ads gather the vast majority of the spotlight, probably close to all of it. Some newer stuff, too, but only a bit. Not saying the reissues are of no value or have no nostalgia for some. I firmly believe that one should collect whatever they like or want to, but from my experience, they are right there with '82, '85, '86 and '91 series...yawn.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 01, 2019, 05:55:05 PM
I collect reissues and have put a lot of time and money into finding nice ones. I’m not dissing them. I’m just pointing out that they don’t draw a ton of collector interest the way the older stuff does.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on August 01, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
I agree completely. It does not bother me or upset me because it is the truth. In a way I am glad as it has helped me a time or two to acquire a few one of a kind reissue items that otherwise would have been more difficult to purchase if there was more interest. On that note, I am super grateful to a few collectors here that over the years, have been kind enough to sell me those items...so that I was able to really have a unique collection.
 Now if someone would be so kind as to start a GoFundMe page for the purchase of the original art for Ice Krunkles………………………..

Kidding of course lol......
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on August 02, 2019, 03:26:45 AM
Aside from buying reissue packs and building sets myself, I bought one of each from a dealer I used to see at regular card shows in Rockville Centre.  My mother used to drive me there (it was almost an hour away), and she and my sister would go shopping in town while I enjoyed the show.  Those minty sets went right into pages, and I still have them.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on August 02, 2019, 06:42:22 PM
I agree completely. It does not bother me or upset me because it is the truth. In a way I am glad as it has helped me a time or two to acquire a few one of a kind reissue items that otherwise would have been more difficult to purchase if there was more interest. On that note, I am super grateful to a few collectors here that over the years, have been kind enough to sell me those items...so that I was able to really have a unique collection.
 Now if someone would be so kind as to start a GoFundMe page for the purchase of the original art for Ice Krunkles………………………..

Kidding of course lol......

You could have had that piece for a song years ago.  I might have even owned it at one time briefly.  I do remember identifying "Snoot" as a Saunders piece when it was up for auction & grabbing it for a decent price.  I think we ended up figuring out it was painted for the 15th or 16th series later.  Is Toser still in operation out there doing the magazine & auctions, etc.?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: drono on August 03, 2019, 11:21:45 AM
Is Toser still in operation out there doing the magazine & auctions, etc.?

I believe Roxanne and Marlon sold the magazine to Beckett Media, but they're still doing shows.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on August 10, 2019, 02:21:46 PM
A big thanks to RawGoo and Zenergizer for helping to fill the empty place in the Reissue Museum!
Zenergizer is visiting for the weekend and we are having a blast! What a great guy!
And RawGoo, you were right, the second series box is beautiful!

(https://i.postimg.cc/VSp5B2rg/B4740-FE3-0-E82-4-E6-C-91-E7-C7-C1-C6001-FF7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSp5B2rg)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Zenergizer on August 12, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
The Reissue Shrine is incredible!  And he has a lot more that's in the case.  Trinkets, some glasses, banks, posters, anything and everything you can imagine!


And if you all ever have the chance to either chat with, or deal with, or visit this incredible dear friend of mine, you will be blessed! 

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Rabanv on August 15, 2019, 03:24:06 PM
To Bum Chex,A great frame work done!Is that actually a uncut sheet of the 1979 reprinted wacky stickers?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on August 15, 2019, 04:29:01 PM
Not sure Im following you. Is that post for another thread?
Title: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: JailOJohn on August 23, 2021, 10:55:28 AM
This doesn't quite belong in Original Series, so I'll put it here. I believe there were 4 sets of "re-issues" (reprints) in 1979-80. Each was 64 cards, so 256 cards total. If there were about 480 (30 stickers times 16 Original Series, give or take some sets had 33), so which series were underrepresented in the reprints? Any glaring omissions (besides pulled titles) of stickers that didn't get re-issued??? Just curious...
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: faustxxx on August 23, 2021, 12:01:56 PM
     Get a hold of " All-Brain " he is the go to for the re-issues.
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: RawGoo on August 23, 2021, 12:04:50 PM
This doesn't quite belong in Original Series, so I'll put it here. I believe there were 4 sets of "re-issues" (reprints) in 1979-80. Each was 64 cards, so 256 cards total. If there were about 480 (30 stickers times 16 Original Series, give or take some sets had 33), so which series were underrepresented in the reprints? Any glaring omissions (besides pulled titles) of stickers that didn't get re-issued??? Just curious...

I merged your new post with this existing thread about the reissues.

There were 4 sets, each with 66 stickers, for a total of 264 sequentially numbered stickers.  The 4th series included a title not included in Series 1-16, Ice Krunkles.

It always seemed to me that they represented a good cross section of all 16 series, but I could be mistaken.

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 23, 2021, 12:40:05 PM
Also, there were five titles used twice, I guess 258 original series titles used?

I have often wondered how they filled out these sets. Maybe going through each series and first using titles perceived to be least risky of a C&D? Then doubling back for later reissue series?

Also, has anyone ever figured out why Blast Blue Ribbon is amongst the 5th series titles?
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: mikecho on August 23, 2021, 04:13:35 PM
I merged your new post with this existing thread about the reissues.

There were 4 sets, each with 66 stickers, for a total of 264 sequentially numbered stickers.  The 4th series included a title not included in Series 1-16, Ice Krunkles.

It always seemed to me that they represented a good cross section of all 16 series, but I could be mistaken.
And don't forget, Pat, a 5th set of 66 more stickers was announced for at least 1980, but was never released. If it had been, it would've contained 13 hard-to-find (at the time) Die-Cut and 1st Series titles.

Can someone show the checklist to this series, please, so everyone can see I'm not talking through my hat here? I know someone has it here somewhere.

Oh, btw, Pat, it's Frosted Ice Krunkles.

Does anyone but me remember that Sugar Rice Krinkles were the ancestor of Pebbles?
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 23, 2021, 04:21:45 PM

Oh, btw, Pat, it's Frosted Ice Krunkles.

Does anyone but me remember that Rice Krunkles were the ancestor of Pebbles?

You mean Rice Krinkles.

By the way, if Krinkles were discontinued in 1969, when was the Ice Krunkles wacky created?
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: mikecho on August 23, 2021, 05:12:07 PM
You mean Rice Krinkles.

By the way, if Krinkles were discontinued in 1969, when was the Ice Krunkles wacky created?
Okay, but I was using the full name of the Wacky, not the real name.

I didn't know Rice Krinkles were discontinued in 1969. I'll try to find out when Fruity Pebbles and Cocoa Pebbles were first released.
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 23, 2021, 05:15:57 PM
Okay, but I was using the full name of the Wacky, not the real name.

I didn't know Rice Krinkles were discontinued in 1969. I'll try to find out when Fruity Pebbles and Cocoa Pebbles were first released.

You said “…Rice Krunkles were the ancestor of Pebbles.”
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: mikecho on August 23, 2021, 05:25:20 PM
You said “…Rice Krunkles were the ancestor of Pebbles.”
Thanks, fixed. I didn't even notice that until now. Silly me!

And, I just found out two things:

*The full name of the original cereal was Sugar Rice Krinkles. Maybe the real name on the Master Spreadsheet is wrong.
*Fruity and Cocoa Pebbles were both released in 1971, two years after Sugar Rice Krinkles was discontinued.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 23, 2021, 05:28:20 PM
Yes, only I don’t think Frosted Rice Krinkles was discontinued when Sugar Rice Krinkles morphed into Pebbles. The packaging similar to the wacky seems to date from around 1972. I can’t find a reference to when FRK was discontinued.

Here is a cool article about the packaging….

https://fontsinuse.com/uses/26818/post-frosted-rice-krinkles-1972
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on August 23, 2021, 05:32:09 PM
I'm sorry I posted.......
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: lucidjc on August 23, 2021, 05:32:35 PM
I remember eating FRK well into the 80's

Jim
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: mikecho on August 23, 2021, 05:35:19 PM
Yes, only I don’t think Frosted Rice Krinkles was discontinued when Sugar Rice Krinkles morphed into Pebbles. The packaging similar to the wacky seems to date from around 1972. I can’t find a reference to when FRK was discontinued.

Here is a cool article about the packaging….

https://fontsinuse.com/uses/26818/post-frosted-rice-krinkles-1972
I looked it up; it was Frosted Rice Krinkles at the end. I saw the same box on Google.
Title: Re: 1979-80 re-issues
Post by: MoldRush on August 23, 2021, 05:37:19 PM
This doesn't quite belong in Original Series, so I'll put it here. I believe there were 4 sets of "re-issues" (reprints) in 1979-80. Each was 64 cards, so 256 cards total. If there were about 480 (30 stickers times 16 Original Series, give or take some sets had 33), so which series were underrepresented in the reprints? Any glaring omissions (besides pulled titles) of stickers that didn't get re-issued??? Just curious...
Several years ago when Paul’s WP Gallery book came out, I got curious about this myself, and did a manual count of titles reprinted from each OS series, first in the 1979-80 Reissues but also the 1982 Albums, where another handful of titles were reprinted for the first time.  I don’t remember a lot of specifics as far as the results, but i’m fairly sure the 9th series was the most under-represented, followed by 11th I believe.  But beyond that, no major differences from series to series.  But any number of factors could have played a part - titles C&D’d, available high-resolution artwork, etc.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on August 23, 2021, 05:50:40 PM
I looked it up; it was Frosted Rice Krinkles at the end. I saw the same box on Google.

But when was FRK discontinued?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on August 23, 2021, 08:09:51 PM
Cocoa Pebbles were always inferior to Cocoa Krispies…
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: mikecho on August 24, 2021, 10:59:22 AM
But when was FRK discontinued?
From what I can gather, Frosted Rice Krinkles survived until sometime into the 1980s (I don't know when, though). The Wacky, Frosted Ice Krunkles, was released in 1980, so it pretty much fits into that timeframe.

Since the box art you showed me was dated 1972, the 12th Series was released in 1975 and the aforementioned Wacky was (as mentioned) released in 1980, I'd have to estimate that the cereal may have been discontinued by at least the early 1980s. Certainly it did not survive into the 1990s.

Though tbph, I'm surprised Post didn't make it into another Pebbles variety and call it Frosted Pebbles a long time ago.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on September 05, 2021, 08:27:02 PM
Wasn't Krunkles one of the many titles cut from the 12th series, along with Fool-Aid?  I'm probably missing a brain synapse, but without looking it up that would've been my guess anyway even though it looks alot more like a 13th.

That being said... has anyone ever figured out the 30 vs. 33 mystery of Wackys?  Like, were ALL the 1-16 series originally SUPPOSED to have 30 or 33 titles before all the cuts/additions/replacements happened, based on how the sheets are printed.  Or was there never an actual target.  I always felt like the 1-16 series were simlar to the months of the year, 30, 33, 30, 33... and then the 12th series was like February.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: mikecho on September 05, 2021, 09:27:03 PM
Wasn't Krunkles one of the many titles cut from the 12th series, along with Fool-Aid?  I'm probably missing a brain synapse, but without looking it up that would've been my guess anyway even though it looks a lot more like a 13th.

That being said...has anyone ever figured out the 30 vs. 33 mystery of Wackys?  Like, were ALL the 1-16 series originally SUPPOSED to have 30 or 33 titles before all the cuts/additions/replacements happened, based on how the sheets are printed?  Or was there never an actual target?  I always felt like the 1-16 series were similar to the months of the year, 30, 33, 30, 33... and then the 12th series was like February.
Yes, Frosted Ice Krunkles, Fool-Aid and Midget Rice were all pulled from the 12th Series. They were finally published at last as one of the 64 base cards (Frosted Rice Krunkles) and two of the eight Lost Wackys cards (Fool-Aid and Midget Rice) in Wacky Pack Flashback.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on September 06, 2021, 02:09:50 PM
What is a full box of series 3 or 4 reissues worth? Trying to bid on one on ebay, ends tonight, box only in VG shape…
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on September 06, 2021, 02:22:47 PM
What is a full box of series 3 or 4 reissues worth? Trying to bid on one on ebay, ends tonight, box only in VG shape…
The 79-80 Reissue's are in this order in my opinion for value at the moment:
Series 2
Series 4
Series 1
Series 3

Series 2 can go for between $400-$600
Series 4 can go for between $200-$400
Series 1 can go for between $200-$350
Series 3 can go for between $85-$140

Obviously condition and day of the week (who is bidding) makes a difference. These are averages that I have seen and paid over the years.
I have overpaid at times because I wanted one bad enough and at the time there were no others for sale but thats how it goes.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on September 06, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
Thanks! It is series 3, and i wont overbid. Not sure if i want to display the box or open the packs….if i win
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on September 06, 2021, 05:25:36 PM
Thanks! It is series 3, and i wont overbid. Not sure if i want to display the box or open the packs….if i win

Thats your choice. There is a lot of series 3 stuff out there so I would leave it sealed but thats me. If you just looking to get ahold of a set of stickers they are easy to come by. I have several.

Glad to see another reissue fan on the forum!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on September 06, 2021, 08:20:40 PM
I didnt get the box. It went fir $142.50 plus $8 shipping, so right on the high end of what you said..Oh well
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on September 07, 2021, 01:36:14 PM
Do people not understand the re-issues are reprints? I see all 4 sets on e-bay for sale at $360, and a set of series 4 at $190……
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Swiski on September 07, 2021, 01:52:36 PM
The 79-80 Reissue's are in this order in my opinion for value at the moment:
Series 2
Series 4
Series 1
Series 3

Series 2 can go for between $400-$600
Series 4 can go for between $200-$400
Series 1 can go for between $200-$350
Series 3 can go for between $85-$140

Obviously condition and day of the week (who is bidding) makes a difference. These are averages that I have seen and paid over the years.
I have overpaid at times because I wanted one bad enough and at the time there were no others for sale but thats how it goes.

I'm amazed these sets are going for that much. The printing is inferior to the originals and they are mostly straight reprints.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on September 07, 2021, 01:58:31 PM
I'm amazed these sets are going for that much. The printing is inferior to the originals and they are mostly straight reprints.
This is a reference to full boxes, not sets. However, I'd agree that these numbers seem high to me...though Jeff would know, so I believe him.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Fanatical_and_Sickly on September 07, 2021, 03:42:20 PM
I'm amazed these sets are going for that much. The printing is inferior to the originals and they are mostly straight reprints.
Series 4 are superior to the originals. 1 and 2 are basically the same as the originals. And Series 3 is just really poorly done.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on September 07, 2021, 03:42:54 PM
Do people not understand the re-issues are reprints? I see all 4 sets on e-bay for sale at $360, and a set of series 4 at $190……

I think buyers understand, as they are not paying those prices….
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on September 08, 2021, 06:02:13 PM
This is a reference to full boxes, not sets. However, I'd agree that these numbers seem high to me...though Jeff would know, so I believe him.
I agree as well that these prices are high. They are just what I have observed them going for on average.
I will trade you a full run of full boxes for your 4 drinking glasses.

:)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on September 09, 2021, 02:33:36 PM
I will trade you a full run of full boxes for your 4 drinking glasses.
An OS 1-16 run? LOL
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on September 13, 2021, 06:53:02 PM
An OS 1-16 run? LOL
If I had it............yes.

Just sell me the Fang.............please? I really love the drinking glasses. At the moment all I have is a Kook-Aid but its really nice and Im grateful to have it.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: ToadallyDude on September 14, 2021, 10:47:01 PM
So... has anyone ever figured out the 30 vs. 33 mystery of Wackys?  Like, were ALL the 1-16 series originally SUPPOSED to have 30 or 33 titles before all the cuts/additions/replacements happened, based on how the sheets are printed.  Or was there never an actual target.  I always felt like the 1-16 series were simlar to the months of the year, 30, 33, 30, 33... and then the 12th series was like February.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on October 01, 2021, 02:09:31 PM
I believe we have established the approximate price for a box of each of these series of re-issues. Could All Brain or others tell me what is the going rate for a complete set of each series??
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on October 01, 2021, 02:45:28 PM
Could All Brain or others tell me what is the going rate for a complete set of each series??
I don't keep real close tabs on this, but I'd say S1,S3,S4 are in the $25-$35 range each, if EX/EX+. S2 maybe $30-$40, same condition range. Just my guess. Again, Jeff knows better than I, but I'd think I'm fairly close.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on October 04, 2021, 03:44:08 AM
I don't keep real close tabs on this, but I'd say S1,S3,S4 are in the $25-$35 range each, if EX/EX+. S2 maybe $30-$40, same condition range. Just my guess. Again, Jeff knows better than I, but I'd think I'm fairly close.
You are in the range for sure. Of course there are the occasional sales that go for more or less.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on April 07, 2022, 10:26:47 AM
I see tons of uncut sheets of the re-issues, especially series One. I get it that they are common. Does anyone have a theory as to why so many uncut sheets got into circulation? Was there a theft? Did they discard a bunch of sheets halfway through production?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on April 07, 2022, 10:57:27 AM
I see tons of uncut sheets of the re-issues, especially series One. I get it that they are common. Does anyone have a theory as to why so many uncut sheets got into circulation? Was there a theft? Did they discard a bunch of sheets halfway through production?

Here is the explanation:

https://wackypacks.com/sheets/1st_rerun.html
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on April 07, 2022, 11:53:05 AM
Thank you for that. Maybe I should check out Greg's site more often...
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on April 07, 2022, 05:11:01 PM
Here is the explanation:

https://wackypacks.com/sheets/1st_rerun.html
I got to speak to the person who made the warehouse find on all the series 1 sheets. Very interesting.
If i could afford it I would buy all that remains and put them in the Reissue Museum :)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: JailOJohn on April 08, 2022, 04:36:50 AM
That is one wild story. Makes me want to own a sheet. I wouldn’t think the condition would be good after all of that….
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on April 08, 2022, 05:06:52 AM
I got to speak to the person who made the warehouse find on all the series 1 sheets. Very interesting.
If i could afford it I would buy all that remains and put them in the Reissue Museum :)

Was that a bookstore owner on the South Shore of Long Island by chance?  They had stacks and stacks out.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bandaches on April 09, 2022, 08:02:59 PM
Was that a bookstore owner on the South Shore of Long Island by chance?  They had stacks and stacks out.
I bought my high grade series 4 reissue sheets from a book store in Long Island.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 22, 2022, 10:13:02 AM
At the Philly Show I picked up three series 4 reissue sets from Dan McKee that appear to be pristine. Time for some more comparing and upgrading! 👍
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on May 22, 2022, 12:45:22 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on May 22, 2022, 04:34:53 PM
At the Philly Show I picked up three series 4 reissue sets from Dan McKee that appear to be pristine. Time for some more comparing and upgrading! 👍

Very nice Dave. Grats. Some day I really want to get to one of those shows. Just to experience it. Sounds like so much fun. I just get nervous about going places Im not familiar with. Getting around, finding a place to stay...all that. Ill just have to do it someday. I hope you get some perfect cards out of that batch.

Jeff
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Bigmuc13 on May 25, 2022, 07:44:39 AM
Very nice Dave. Grats. Some day I really want to get to one of those shows. Just to experience it. Sounds like so much fun. I just get nervous about going places Im not familiar with. Getting around, finding a place to stay...all that. Ill just have to do it someday. I hope you get some perfect cards out of that batch.

Jeff

Jeff, the venue is great.  It is fairly remote (Not in a city setting at all).  It is busy, but there is lots of parking.  No gun show this time around!  n the Fall there was a gun show in the main hall and it was crazy busy.  This time it was much calmer.  There are some hotels not far away.  Overall it is an easy experience, and if you fly in, it is onyl about 30 minutes from the Phily airport.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2022, 10:35:22 AM
Which one is nicest? I think I’m going with the middle one…

High quality photo….

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075888/ik#latest


(https://i.postimg.cc/28r4PN5m/60022-C28-64-B5-4-B48-915-F-0-ACB42-BFF44-F.jpg)
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: lucidjc on May 25, 2022, 10:54:51 AM
Which one is nicest? I think I’m going with the middle one…

High quality photo….

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075888/ik#latest


(https://i.postimg.cc/28r4PN5m/60022-C28-64-B5-4-B48-915-F-0-ACB42-BFF44-F.jpg)

Is there a mark under the R in frosted, middle one?

Jim
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2022, 11:02:11 AM
Is there a mark under the R in frosted, middle one?

Jim

I’m not sure if that’s an eyelash or on the card, but even if it is on the card I think I still like it best.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Kook on May 25, 2022, 11:10:27 AM
I agree - center one is my favorite. It's the brightest (toning on right one) and best centered - one on left has worse vertical centering IMO, though the middle one is not ideal regarding my personal vertical centering taste, and it seems to lay the flatest as well. It's bright with no diamond cut.

Fortunately or unfortunately, "perfect" is a relative term in most cases with wackys, each choosing their own best tradeoffs.

Which one is nicest? I think I’m going with the middle one…

High quality photo….

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075888/ik#latest

Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: RawGoo on May 25, 2022, 11:29:13 AM
Which one is nicest? I think I’m going with the middle one…

High quality photo….

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075888/ik#latest


(https://i.postimg.cc/28r4PN5m/60022-C28-64-B5-4-B48-915-F-0-ACB42-BFF44-F.jpg)

I agree, the middle one looks the best.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Paul_Maul on May 25, 2022, 12:29:04 PM
I agree - center one is my favorite. It's the brightest (toning on right one) and best centered - one on left has worse vertical centering IMO, though the middle one is not ideal regarding my personal vertical centering taste, and it seems to lay the flatest as well. It's bright with no diamond cut.

Pretty much my thinking exactly. It would be ideal if it were centered a bit higher, but fortunately that isn’t my main bugaboo….
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: drono on May 25, 2022, 01:36:36 PM
Pretty much my thinking exactly. It would be ideal if it were centered a bit higher, but fortunately that isn’t my main bugaboo….

Looking at 264 x 3 stickers for the best one would drive me nuts!  I'd be blind in the eye I can't see out of when I was done.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 25, 2022, 01:40:42 PM
Nice additions to your collection, Dave. The reissues are cool. Especially fun to just open up packs.

Your Ice Krunkles copies are a bit nicer than mine.  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6TN9BHrk/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TN9BHrk)

The corners aren’t necessarily the sharpest cookies in the knife drawer…
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: bigtomi on May 26, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
The corners aren’t necessarily the sharpest cookies in the knife drawer…
You keep cookies in your knife drawer? I think this is what's known as a mixed metaphor?
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: NationalSpittoon on May 26, 2022, 12:58:50 PM
You keep cookies in your knife drawer? I think this is what's known as a mixed metaphor?

If you think too much about it, you become a duller knife in the cookie jar.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on May 26, 2022, 07:36:30 PM
Which one is nicest? I think I’m going with the middle one…

High quality photo….

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1075888/ik#latest


(https://i.postimg.cc/28r4PN5m/60022-C28-64-B5-4-B48-915-F-0-ACB42-BFF44-F.jpg)

 I have a couple PSA 10's and that middle card looks just about the same as those. Middle for sure.
Nice card.

Jeff
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Plastered Peanut on May 28, 2022, 12:11:06 AM
You keep cookies in your knife drawer? I think this is what's known as a mixed metaphor?

Cookies in the knife drawer is a lot better than getting caught with your hand in the knife jar!   Ouch!!!
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: chipereno on May 28, 2022, 06:01:18 AM
Or on the counter… those edges are sharp if you fell.
Be careful plastered is all I got to say.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: All-Brain on May 30, 2022, 04:55:54 AM
Or on the counter… those edges are sharp if you fell.
Be careful plastered is all I got to say.
Thats a party I wish I could have attended.
Title: Re: All Things 79-80 Reissue
Post by: Plastered Peanut on June 06, 2022, 10:21:51 PM
Thats a party I wish I could have attended.

It was ............ enlightening.