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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: Wgblood on July 26, 2014, 11:00:30 AM
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I just bought a couple of value packs from my local Target in St Paul. Was disappointed with the first pack because of a printing error that clipped the corners. The next pack was a little better. I assume this is an alternate art card
(http://s15.postimg.org/qg9rdb3o7/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qg9rdb3o7/)
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I found a variation. This one was easy. I skimmed over all my cards and this is the only one I could find. Leave it to Neil to pick Koduck.
(http://s13.postimg.org/svzv6z843/VARIANT.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/svzv6z843/)
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I found a variation. This one was easy. I skimmed over all my cards and this is the only one I could find. Leave it to Neil to pick Koduck.
(http://s13.postimg.org/svzv6z843/VARIANT.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/svzv6z843/)
Nice find! What does the back say?
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Nice find! What does the back say?
It's just like all the others. No difference.
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It's just like all the others. No difference.
Thanks for the info. Two ducks swapped - neat idea!
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Thanks for the info. Two ducks swapped - neat idea!
So the drakes are the fakes. :-[
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I found a variation. This one was easy. I skimmed over all my cards and this is the only one I could find. Leave it to Neil to pick Koduck.
(http://s13.postimg.org/svzv6z843/VARIANT.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/svzv6z843/)
Does it have any indication written on the back that it's a variation? Or is it flying under the radar?
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Does it have any indication written on the back that it's a variation? Or is it flying under the radar?
Totally under the radar. When I sorted them by number I would flip them over and see if I could find any variation. At first I was looking really close at the artwork. Then I decided just to flip through them somewhat faster and this one stuck way out.
I don't know if any words have been altered but I thought it was just the characters. It makes sense since these are pretty easy to alter than repainting an altered card.
I wonder if these are the only 2? I checked and I didn't pull the other variation.
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I don't know if any words have been altered but I thought it was just the characters. It makes sense since these are pretty easy to alter than repainting an altered card.
I wonder if these are the only 2? I checked and I didn't pull the other variation.
well, the wrappers say there are 2 kinds of variations: character and artwork.
I would guess that this is the character.
Eager to see what an 'artwork' change means
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Only 200 hobby cases!
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Only 200 hobby cases!
This would make sense due to 2750 Golds (25 each x 110 Base cards). 200 Hobby cases X 12 = 2400 Hobby Boxes.
That would work out. So about 350 Hobby Boxes have 2 Golds in them. I did get two Golds in one of my seven Hobby Boxes.
The low Pre-orders on this release caused collectors who purchased it to get a better deal in terms of Gold and Blue Hobby Only cards.
That's what I thought would occur.
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This would make sense due to 2750 Golds (25 each x 110 Base cards). 200 Hobby cases X 12 = 2400 Hobby Boxes.
That would work out. So about 350 Hobby Boxes have 2 Golds in them. I did get two Golds in one of my seven Hobby Boxes.
The low Pre-orders on this release caused collectors who purchased it to get a better deal in terms of Gold and Blue Hobby Only cards.
That's what I thought would occur.
Dude - you are : premonition Wacky Man!! - now tell us which Wacky's have the artwork variation ?? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Best Line on the Koduck card "Watch the Birdie" LOL
I found a variation. This one was easy. I skimmed over all my cards and this is the only one I could find. Leave it to Neil to pick Koduck.
(http://s13.postimg.org/svzv6z843/VARIANT.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/svzv6z843/)
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The next variation just showed on eBay and it's kinda wild.
(http://s7.postimg.org/ngc61aoiv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ngc61aoiv/)
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The next variation just showed on eBay and it's kinda wild.
(http://s7.postimg.org/ngc61aoiv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ngc61aoiv/)
That's a hell of a lot better than what I've seen. That is great!
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Only 200 hobby cases!
that is super low . im surprised the case price hasnt risen yet .
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kind of wishing i had bought some more now . if the price is gonna go up . but even if it was short printed..... it seems like half the members here dig em and the other half dont ..... so even if short printed ? its not like everyone just has to have them .... so looks like topps printed just enough to satisfy the wacky collectors.
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kind of wishing i had bought some more now . if the price is gonna go up . but even if it was short printed..... it seems like half the members here dig em and the other half dont ..... so even if short printed ? its not like everyone just has to have them .... so looks like topps printed just enough to satisfy the wacky collectors.
It will be interesting to see if case prices go up. They have come down for hobby cases in the last few releases. I also think they made the right amount. I liked buying what I did but have no impulse to buy more. One master set of base cards and parallel set mixed with Golds, Blues, Atomics, X Fractors and basic refractors, plus one sketch will do it for me.
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kind of wishing i had bought some more now . if the price is gonna go up . but even if it was short printed..... it seems like half the members here dig em and the other half dont ..... so even if short printed ? its not like everyone just has to have them .... so looks like topps printed just enough to satisfy the wacky collectors.
I have lots for sale - If you are looking for anything particular just PM me....sketches, blue, gold, etc...boxes, wrappers, refracs...etc..Love the CHROME!!
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that is super low . im surprised the case price hasnt risen yet .
That might be about right because if you get one gold per box and only 25 were printed of each title...well you can do the math.
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That might be about right because if you get one gold per box and only 25 were printed of each title...well you can do the math.
but based on how much everything is selling for on ebay I really think the remaining cases will go down in price. example 1 week ago golds were selling in the 40-50 range now I am seeing them in the 20 - 30 range. same with blues. Sketches are not bringing a premium. The back bone of a case is the blue and the gold and you do not get enough to justify a case for 700.00. I know I am not buying another case at that price, however if the case price drops to 500 range (45 per box) i will pick up another case.
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Look what I just pulled
(http://s27.postimg.org/ac3xlevcf/kook.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ac3xlevcf/)
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Brad that is AWESOME!
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Look what I just pulled
(http://s27.postimg.org/ac3xlevcf/kook.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ac3xlevcf/)
see what happens here is the "green" WP peeps and dealers might sell a SET of 100 cards without ever knowing the variations exist...might b a nice surprise..unfortunately not from "astute" collectors like us!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Look what I just pulled
(http://s27.postimg.org/ac3xlevcf/kook.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ac3xlevcf/)
question is how MANY of these exist??? this would be classified as "artwork" - this cool as is the Mars Attack one too...I have to recheck my stack...
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question is how MANY of these exist??? this would be classified as "artwork" - this cool as is the Mars Attack one too...I have to recheck my stack...
I just saw the Mars Attack variation on ebay. That one is cool.
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question is how MANY of these exist??? this would be classified as "artwork" - this cool as is the Mars Attack one too...I have to recheck my stack...
there are ~100 of each if there are 4 total variations. Two of each type (two art, two mix up), according to the odds.
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I just saw the Mars Attack variation on ebay. That one is cool.
it's posted up above as well.
these art alterations are easily the killer cards. far, far, insanely far, superior to those 1/1 über-refractor monstrosities.
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it's posted up above as well.
these art alterations are easily the killer cards. far, far, insanely far, superior to those 1/1 über-refractor monstrosities.
I am not liking the look of the Superfractors. They have this tiny machine roll / sawblade design that is not pleasant to view.
The altered cards are fun and a surprise. They were a very cool addition to this release.
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there are ~100 of each if there are 4 total variations. Two of each type (two art, two mix up), according to the odds.
Do we know how many chrome boxes and paks in total? The odds for the alternative cards are showing up on paks in the
blaster boxes and the value packs, and I'm assuming on the TRU paks as well? A
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Love these alternate cards! I wouldn't have cared much if there was some tiny detail changed, but I really like the far-out way these have been changed. Sadly, I suspect I won't end up with one, but they are fun to see.
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Love the alternate cards we've seen so far, too! Do they have anything on the back to indicate
that they are "alternates"?
And I know it's posted somewhere, but for refractor variations, we have
1. the plain refractors
2. blue
3. gold
4. These checkboard designs, from Target
5. super-duper atomic
Am I missing any?
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Look what I just pulled
(http://s27.postimg.org/ac3xlevcf/kook.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ac3xlevcf/)
From Topps Make Your Own Name Stickers #6: (Sy)
http://www.normansaunders.com/OwNm-01.html
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Love these alternate cards! I wouldn't have cared much if there was some tiny detail changed, but I really like the far-out way these have been changed. Sadly, I suspect I won't end up with one, but they are fun to see.
I don't always love being wrong, but I do in this case. Literally, an hour or so after making my statement above, I pulled one of these cards.
(http://s28.postimg.org/dtvrakzl5/img001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dtvrakzl5/)
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Love the alternate cards we've seen so far, too! Do they have anything on the back to indicate
that they are "alternates"?
And I know it's posted somewhere, but for refractor variations, we have
1. the plain refractors
2. blue
3. gold
4. These checkboard designs, from Target
5. super-duper atomic
Am I missing any?
4. Are called X-refractors
5. Are called Superefractors
Plus the Atomic Refrctors that look like cracked ice or stain glass
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I don't always love being wrong, but I do in this case. Literally, an hour or so after making my statement above, I pulled one of these cards.
(http://s28.postimg.org/dtvrakzl5/img001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dtvrakzl5/)
A combo of a Wacky with the "License to Kill" Ugly Button (#9):
http://www.normansaunders.com/UglyBts%2C02.html
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A combo of a Wacky with the "License to Kill" Ugly Button (#9):
http://www.normansaunders.com/UglyBts%2C02.html
Thanks for the info! I didn't recognize the character. Very cool that Norm's artwork has made a return to Wackys on this card.
By the way, I listed it on ebay, starting at a penny to make it interesting, and when I search the auction doesn't come up. Can anyone else see it?
***OK, it does seem to be showing up now. Hope the rest of you can see it.
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Love the alternate cards we've seen so far, too! Do they have anything on the back to indicate
that they are "alternates"?
And I know it's posted somewhere, but for refractor variations, we have
1. the plain refractors
2. blue
3. gold
4. These checkboard designs, from Target
5. super-duper atomic
Am I missing any?
check out the Master List for the varieties.
I may need to add small pics to make it easy to know the differences in design
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=3564.msg68343#msg68343 (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=3564.msg68343#msg68343)
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I don't always love being wrong, but I do in this case. Literally, an hour or so after making my statement above, I pulled one of these cards.
(http://s28.postimg.org/dtvrakzl5/img001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dtvrakzl5/)
Thanks for sharing. Now I have to look at all my cards again although I highly doubt I would pull 2 in the same case. Highly doubtful. I did pull a Len Brown auto. Anyone care to buy it?
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I love checking in to the Chrome Variation Thread early in the morning to see what new title has popped up. This is the highlight of this release for me. Similar to sketches in terms of "What will the minds of the Wacky Artists come up with next?" I wonder if the "Wonky Packages" we got a year ago were the genesis for these?
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I wonder if the "Wonky Packages" we got a year ago were the genesis for these?
It would seem that way 8)
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It would seem that way 8)
Unfortunately, these are just too scarce for the average collector to afford.
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I wonder if the "Wonky Packages" we got a year ago were the genesis for these?
and a continuation of the C variations from ANS11, but taken up a notch. BAM!
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Holy Variations, Batman!
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I agree, love the variations, I have to go through all my cards ahhh!
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Unfortunately, these are just too scarce for the average collector to afford.
Then that makes me an average collector too :)
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Unfortunately, these are just too scarce for the average collector to afford.
Mine's only at $21.50 on ebay. Most people could afford that ;)
Actually, I'm kinda fascinated by what these will fetch. I'm selling mine as I want the money to pay for all the chrome I bought as well as upcoming releases. Even if I didn't have one on ebay, I'd be very curious what they'd get. With a horse in the race, I'm even more interested. Would like to know more about how many of each image, but perhaps the unknown is part of the appeal.
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Mine's only at $21.50 on ebay. Most people could afford that ;)
Actually, I'm kinda fascinated by what these will fetch. I'm selling mine as I want the money to pay for all the chrome I bought as well as upcoming releases. Even if I didn't have one on ebay, I'd be very curious what they'd get. With a horse in the race, I'm even more interested. Would like to know more about how many of each image, but perhaps the unknown is part of the appeal.
I don't see the auction. What did you use for a title? Did you use variation in the title?
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Mine's only at $21.50 on ebay. Most people could afford that ;)
Actually, I'm kinda fascinated by what these will fetch. I'm selling mine as I want the money to pay for all the chrome I bought as well as upcoming releases. Even if I didn't have one on ebay, I'd be very curious what they'd get. With a horse in the race, I'm even more interested. Would like to know more about how many of each image, but perhaps the unknown is part of the appeal.
I think we can come up with the number of total cards made by dividing 1500 into the total number of packs. We know there are about 33600 Hobby packs. (200 cases X 12 Boxes per case X 14 Packs per Box). So that's 22 cards in the Hobby Release. If we speculate that the retail releases are about double the Hobby release size then we get another 45 Cards so a Total of 67 Cards made. So far we have 5 Titles and there are probably 10 or so. So that means around 7 made per card. Just a guess.
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Here is another variation. The AJERX title:
(http://s7.postimg.org/48ek7nnt3/AJERX_CHROME_VARIATION.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/48ek7nnt3/)
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Here is another variation. The AJERX title:
(http://s7.postimg.org/48ek7nnt3/AJERX_CHROME_VARIATION.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/48ek7nnt3/)
I like that one a lot! Think we'll see the Ajerx guy on a Badzooka?
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I don't see the auction. What did you use for a title? Did you use variation in the title?
I didn't use "variation" in the title, but I suppose I should have. I hope this link works.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Chrome-Mixed-Up-Character-Art-SHORT-PRINT-Campy-Mint-1-1500-/371111958390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667ff1776
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I didn't use "variation" in the title, but I suppose I should have. I hope this link works.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Chrome-Mixed-Up-Character-Art-SHORT-PRINT-Campy-Mint-1-1500-/371111958390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667ff1776
I hope you get a lot of money for it. I love when the market dictates a wacky price, not just a negotiated "Buy it Now"
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I didn't use "variation" in the title, but I suppose I should have. I hope this link works.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Chrome-Mixed-Up-Character-Art-SHORT-PRINT-Campy-Mint-1-1500-/371111958390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667ff1776
I guess it's too late to change the title once someone bids? If not, change it ASAP!
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I guess it's too late to change the title once someone bids? If not, change it ASAP!
Unfortunately, it is too late. I suppose I could always add it to the auction description, though.
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Unfortunately, it is too late. I suppose I could always add it to the auction description, though.
Looks like there's no shortage of bidders nonetheless!
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Unfortunately, it is too late. I suppose I could always add it to the auction description, though.
You would have to stop the auction to retitle. You still have 5 days left so I wouldn't worry too much.
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You would have to stop the auction to retitle. You still have 5 days left so I wouldn't worry too much.
I see. I really wasn't sure what key words/terms to use, but I appreciate the feedback. I really am curious what it will go for. Obviously, I have a horse in the race, but I'd be very curious even if I didn't. I'm also curious how many more of these will pop up (either of Campy's specifically or any title).
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I think we can come up with the number of total cards made by dividing 1500 into the total number of packs.
So far we have 5 Titles and there are probably 10 or so. So that means around 7 made per card. Just a guess.
from the odds on the pack, there are 250 cards of art change and 250 cards of character change
so far we've seen about 3 of each type, but likely there's a couple more out there, meaning about 50 of each variety.
If more show up, just keep dividing 250 down.
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I didn't use "variation" in the title, but I suppose I should have. I hope this link works.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Chrome-Mixed-Up-Character-Art-SHORT-PRINT-Campy-Mint-1-1500-/371111958390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667ff1776
That is sweet!
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/cAMPY_zps45d48607.jpg)
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Campy is climbing in price!
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Here is another...
(http://s27.postimg.org/jo5oy5uzz/Variation_6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jo5oy5uzz/)
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Here is another...
(http://s27.postimg.org/jo5oy5uzz/Variation_6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jo5oy5uzz/)
That is a great one.
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Another title variation (mix-up) that Card Gary posted today...
(http://s28.postimg.org/6kvn9ycl5/Variation_7.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6kvn9ycl5/)
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Another title variation (mix-up) that Card Gary posted today...
(http://s28.postimg.org/6kvn9ycl5/Variation_7.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6kvn9ycl5/)
That is one demented looking Tomato.
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Another title variation (mix-up) that Card Gary posted today...
(http://s28.postimg.org/6kvn9ycl5/Variation_7.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6kvn9ycl5/)
I just knew these Altered Art variations had to have an Ugly Sticker in there somewhere. Fantastic!
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i received a Koduck Character Swap card with Quacker Oats character on it yesterday I had purchased it outside of Ebay. This will be the only one of this type of card I own for this release. I was fortunate to be able to obtain one. I think these are much cooler than the Superfractor Cards.
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i received a Koduck Character Swap card with Quacker Oats character on it yesterday I had purchased it outside of Ebay. This will be the only one of this type of card I own for this release. I was fortunate to be able to obtain one. I think these are much cooler than the Superfractor Cards.
I'd prefer one of these as well. I left an empty spot in the pages for one, but I expect it to remain that way.
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I purchased a case and had ONE - Very kool and rare so I am happy!
Here it is:
(http://s4.postimg.org/omtne6s9l/Kook_Aid_Variation_Front.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/omtne6s9l/)
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I purchased a case and had ONE - Very kool and rare so I am happy!
Here it is:
(http://s4.postimg.org/omtne6s9l/Kook_Aid_Variation_Front.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/omtne6s9l/)
very nice, wow. Who is the artist? are they named on the reverse?
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very nice, wow. Who is the artist? are they named on the reverse?
they are all Norm Saunders pieces from his non-Wacky works.
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they are all Norm Saunders pieces from his non-Wacky works.
Yes, and the one just pulled is "Sy" (Number 6) from Topps Make Your Own Name Stickers:
http://www.normansaunders.com/OwNm-01.html
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Can those who have been fortunate enough to pull one of these variation cards comment on where it was in their pack? It is my sense that the rare cards are usually last in the pack. Does this hold true for these cards?
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I purchased a case and had ONE - Very kool and rare so I am happy!
Here it is:
(http://s4.postimg.org/omtne6s9l/Kook_Aid_Variation_Front.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/omtne6s9l/)
Very Kool you pulled a Kook.
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they are all Norm Saunders pieces from his non-Wacky works.
Of course, the master himself. I am such a newb
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Can those who have been fortunate enough to pull one of these variation cards comment on where it was in their pack? It is my sense that the rare cards are usually last in the pack. Does this hold true for these cards?
To be honest, I don't remember where mine was. I was in such a state of shock I didn't make a mental note.
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I purchased a case and had ONE - Very kool and rare so I am happy!
Here it is:
(http://s4.postimg.org/omtne6s9l/Kook_Aid_Variation_Front.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/omtne6s9l/)
I think this is the second of this specific card to be pulled. Do we know for sure how many of each type were made?
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I think this is the second of this specific card to be pulled. Do we know for sure how many of each type were made?
my guess from the odds is about 50
there should be 250 altered art and 250 mixed up character cards
so far, 4 types of each have surfaced.
it's possible there's a 5th to make the division perfect
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Mine's only at $21.50 on ebay. Most people could afford that ;)
Actually, I'm kinda fascinated by what these will fetch. I'm selling mine as I want the money to pay for all the chrome I bought as well as upcoming releases. Even if I didn't have one on ebay, I'd be very curious what they'd get. With a horse in the race, I'm even more interested. Would like to know more about how many of each image, but perhaps the unknown is part of the appeal.
Over $300 so I think you did ok in the end. Nice to see that one sold organically.
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That then is about what they are worth then. I don't think they are 600-1000 dollar cards
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Over $300 so I think you did ok in the end. Nice to see that one sold organically.
That is what I sold the Kook for. The other one you screwed me over...HaHa :]
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That is what I sold the Kook for. The other one you screwed me over...HaHa :]
I am VERY appreciative that you sold me the Koduck Vari at a great price and hope to return the favor one day.
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Over $300 so I think you did ok in the end. Nice to see that one sold organically.
Yeah, I was happy as well as curious to see how it would turn out. I do think there is some variation in the desirability of these cards, so it may be tough to peg a price too literally. I know the buyer of my card liked the fact that it wasn't just another wacky character. To be honest, I think I might have preferred a mixed-up Wacky character (I guess mine really was a mixed-up art card) but I'm happy I was able to defray the cost of what I put out for this series.
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Here is another...
(http://s27.postimg.org/jo5oy5uzz/Variation_6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jo5oy5uzz/)
does anyone have a better capture of this Commie chrome variation? it's the only one I don't have a nice scan for.
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does anyone have a better capture of this Commie chrome variation? it's the only one I don't have a nice scan for.
Here you go Patrick. Not a real high quality pic but at least its taken from straight on. Do you have a decent DEMENTED you can share? How many do you have pictures of. I have AJERX, CAMPY, CAP'N CRUD, COMMIE, DEMENTED, KODUCK, KOOK-AID, and QUACKER OATS.
(http://s15.postimg.org/gt8yua6g7/COMMIE_CHROME_VARIATION.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gt8yua6g7/)