# 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 | Title Mtn Doom Flustered Flakes Milk Deads Taco Belch Pooper Mario Doo-D Land Pillsburied Play-Gogh Lite Sabers Reeper's B. O. Shock Ew Dungeon Donuts Petsi Peter Pawn Tubby Grahams Zombie Fitness Might Be Dog Pull Pop Scream of Wheat Rold Cold Tomb Gator Helly Belly Hippy Meal Fiber Won Green Chant Chronic Degenerates Blow Hole Pop Wuss in Boots Jack Stinks Ultra Tite Deers of War Allmud Joy Battlesheep Fruit of the Loon Bogus Burgers Legend of Zelduh Crawley Rancher Diarrhea of a Windy Kid Pop-Farts Klepto-Bismol Mortal Comrades Chia Pest Chux Mix Cementos Easy Muck Feet Fighter Tric Tac Benadrool Newts and Adders Ninjagoo Mimecraft Newtella Pampered Lucky Germs Monster Thighs Snakers | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | Artist Smokin' Joe Fred Wheaton Junghwa Im David Gross Brent Engstrom Joe Simko Junghwa Im Pat Chaimuang Smokin' Joe Brent Engstrom Smokin' Joe Fred Wheaton David Gross Joe Simko Brent Engstrom Junghwa Im Sam Gambino Matthew Kirsch Clause St. Aubin Brent Engstrom Junghwa Im Smokin' Joe Fred Wheaton Pat Chaimuang Brent Engstrom Junghwa Im Mark Pingatore Sam Gambino Smokin' Joe Brent Engstrom Fred Wheaton Joe Simko Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom Brent Engstrom Joe Simko Neil Camera Mark Pingatore Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom Sam Gambino Junghwa Im Neil Camera Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom John Zeleznik Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom John Zeleznik Brent Engstrom Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom Junghwa Im Brent Engstrom Smokin' Joe |
I listed all artist autograph cards on ebay. It isn't clear about how many artists or titles since it seems there is no rhyme or reason as to #x of 15, artist or title. They appear to be mixed & matched. If anyone can shed some light on this subset, I'd appreciate it.
Also, the cloth set isn't clear. Is there a cloth set 1 to 55 & awful apps set & others? It appears there are more than just the 55 base cards in cloth.
I'm thinking (as in Baseball cards) the #15 is how many total cards that particular Artist signed 1 of 15, 2 of 15 etc.
Bonus 1-6 below. All are from the Jumbo Packs, found in Target/Wal*Mart/Toys R Us
PKG000501, UPC ending in 390
B1 3 Racketeers
B2 Special D K
PKG000502, UPC ending in 393
B3 Hi-Sea
B4 Robos
PKG000484, UPC ending in 372
B5 Refuzit
B6 Fancy Beast
lost Wackys:
L3 Shebad
On the bonus cards are all available at target or do you have to go to different stores?
On the bonus cards are all available at target or do you have to go to different stores?my experience is that each store gets just one pack type.
Bonus 1-6 below. All are from the Jumbo Packs, found in Target/Wal*Mart/Toys R Us
PKG000501, UPC ending in 390
B1 3 Racketeers
B2 Special D K
PKG000502, UPC ending in 393
B3 Hi-Sea
B4 Robos
PKG000484, UPC ending in 372
B5 Refuzit
B6 Fancy Beast
lost Wackys:
L3 Shebad
Are certain bonus cards found at specific stores, like b1andb2 at target, b3&4 at Walmart and b5&6 at TRU? This is crazy. Just saw your response above. I never found anything at Walmart in 5 years.I was finding B1/B2 at Target, and B5/B6 at Wal*Mart and TRU near me. Others have found differently.
How are you guys storing your cloth stickers since penny sleeves will ruin a cloth sticker (I've read)
Before I start collecting, I want to understand all that's available, where it comes from (case & box type, stores & other internet sources) & where the prices seem to settle before I decide what I'm going to collect from it.
I store mine in a cryogenic chamber that I bought off ebay. It's the only way to keep them safe. :ochecking Ebay ....... Wow you must have got the last one, couldn't find one. Maybe I can find a used one on craigslist.
checking Ebay ....... Wow you must have got the last one, couldn't find one. Maybe I can find a used one on craigslist.
I may have got the last one. It only cost me $650,000 but I think it's worth it to save a couple cloth stickers...LOL
Actually, no one knows. We know the old stuff didn't do too well because of the actual sticker adhesive. New stuff could be better. Who knows?
Maybe snap-tites would be safest for the cloth stickers.I was thinking that too. Or I can send them in and get them graded (not gonna happen)
Or I can send them in and get them graded (not gonna happen)
Are certain bonus cards found at specific stores, like b1andb2 at target, b3&4 at Walmart and b5&6 at TRU? This is crazy. Just saw your response above. I never found anything at Walmart in 5 years.
B3 & B4 were found at a Target in Saint Paul, MN.
Does 1 jumbo pack have both bonus cards or do you have to buy 2 different jumbo packs?
A few mods
Artists signatures are 15 per title, numbered 1 to 15 of 15.Not sure how many of the titles have autograph versions though.
Has anyone figured out how many Full Sets of Golds there are (base 1-55) and how many sets of Black and Red Ludlows (base 1-55) and the same with the cloths. What I mean is there are only 4 sets of printing plates. This is a estimate amusing only 1 of each color was issued. Just wondering with that info can we back into full sets of the others (and then maybe we can than estimate the Gold and Cloth since they are in the hobby sets also). If some one has attempted the math let me know so I can compare it to what I guestimated.
I listed all artist autograph cards on ebay. It isn't clear about how many artists or titles since it seems there is no rhyme or reason as to #x of 15, artist or title. They appear to be mixed & matched. If anyone can shed some light on this subset, I'd appreciate it.
Also, the cloth set isn't clear. Is there a cloth set 1 to 55 & awful apps set & others? It appears there are more than just the 55 base cards in cloth.
A few mods
Jumbo packs do have a box. I'm working on getting a number. Not sure if there are three boxes or just one
There are 75 cloth cards. 55 base, 10 TV, 10 Apps
Artists signatures are 15 per title, numbered 1 to 15 of 15.Not sure how many of the titles have autograph versions though.
I was fortunate enough to get a Zeldah/Engstrom autograph card, too. I think it's 04/15,
in case anyone's keeping track.
Does anyone know if there is any order to the artist autographs? I only listed the first dozen or so on ebay to try and find a pattern. Doesn't appear to be a pattern with the #xx of 15, or # & title or title & artist. Seems totally random.
The cards are numbered by the actual card number. Is that what you mean?
Each Artist signed an art card of the art they created or painted 15 times. The # is the order Topps chose in the set in top (r) corner
.....totaling 825 (15 x 55) total signed cards. ;)
Based on 46.000 packs here is a breakdown of sets based on odds
Base - 2500
Red - 836
Black canvas - 836
Gold - 25
Black Lud - 60
Red Lud - 10
Cloth (including Apps & TV) - 44
Lost Wacky Gold - 5
Star Auto (5 card set) 288
Sketch cards total 800
Artist Autos - 522 total
Not sure were you got the 46,000...but your numbers look very harmonious :P
Based on the odds of buy backs and plates. Someone have a different number?I was using that math I just was not sure if the odds for collectors and hobby where base on separate or together. meaning for instance the odds of a sketch in the collectors box was 1: in anumber but in the hobby it was 1: in a much higher number. I could do the plates and figure the collectors because there are only 4 plates per card assuming they only released a set of 55 and not a plate for the as screammed or awful apps of lost wackys. Then I can pinpoint the number of cases. It is hard though to do the hobby boxes with gold and cloth included in them both.
I was using that math I just was not sure if the odds for collectors and hobby where base on separate or together. meaning for instance the odds of a sketch in the collectors box was 1: in anumber but in the hobby it was 1: in a much higher number. I could do the plates and figure the collectors because there are only 4 plates per card assuming they only released a set of 55 and not a plate for the as screammed or awful apps of lost wackys. Then I can pinpoint the number of cases. It is hard though to do the hobby boxes with gold and cloth included in them both.
My stats are only for collector cases. There is no way to figure out production of hobby/retail unless there was something we knew had a set value like plates.Ok then your math would be the same as I figured. Except cloth and gold are a guestimate based on that they are also in the hobby packs. (or that is the amount of sets of gold and cloth in the collectors sets). I would figure that that would be a good baseline.
The problem figuring this out is interpreting Topps odds. There are plates for all the cards including TV,apps, & lost. I used the 1:211 ratio for base. So I'm basing the odds of any plates as 1:211 and the other plates are just tougher to pull. This figure could still be wrong but if Topps only included 30 buybacks then the numbers match.
It's really a food guesstimate at this time.
Another thing is the Topps flyer lists 800 sketches in all outlets but with the same ratio formula it works to 800 just in the collector boxes. Maybe Topps is using fuzzy logic ;)
Ok then your math would be the same as I figured. Except cloth and gold are a guestimate based on that they are also in the hobby packs. (or that is the amount of sets of gold and cloth in the collectors sets). I would figure that that would be a good baseline.
Only collector boxes not hobby/retail. If you are looking for good odds of pulling golds you best start buying collector boxes before they run out. You would be spinning your wheels and money looking for golds in hobby boxes.I would buy more collectors boxes but for 500 per case and I only want the black ludlow and Clothes it would be cheaper to buy direct from ebay. That is taking in account the averages of the other cards and selling them. I think I am ahead doing it that way. I will admit it is fun to open though.
More pics of artists autographs including one that isn't on the master list.the number in the upper right is just the base set card number.
I can't figure out the numbering system in the upper right hand corner. Could that number be the sequence no?
That would mean that there are at least 24 different cards in this series.
the number in the upper right is just the base set card number.
so potentially 55 different, but the pulls so far don't seem to support that.
I had a little more time to look into the artist autographs set. I will post a list of all the ones from ebay and the handful forum members at the bottom of this thread. I got them all together to try and figure out some kind of pattern. What I did figure out is:
It appears the artists did a certain number of their own #1 to #15 sets. When you look carefully at the bottom of the card, the artist's name & sequence is printed on the card. I originally thought each artist did 1 set of 1 to 15. If you check the list & see the collection of #12s, you'll see Im did 3 different # 12 of 15s. That indicates that at least he did 3 sets of 15. Each artist may have done more than 1 set of 15.
I think if we can figure the total number of collectors cases, the odds of the artist autos, we can back into the total # of artist autos. Then divide the total by 15 & that should give us the number of "1 to 15" sets.
I'm also not sure if we have all the artists signatures yet in the list. I seem to remember seeing a few names I didn't recognize in sketch auctions, yet I don't see their signatures in the 12 artists that have surfaced so far. If anyone knows of an artist who has done ans10 sketches, yet not on the list of known artists autos yet, please post.
If any of the artists can/will chime in, they would certainly be able to shed some light on the composition of this set.
As far as the titles go in relation to the artists, I don't believe there is a correlation. It appears there were sets of 1 to 55 printed up for these BEFORE the artists gold imprint xx/15 which may have been printed/applied after. Maybe Dr Popper could weigh in on that...
Artists w/auto cards so far(12):
Neil Camera
Pat Chaimuang
Brent Engstrom
Sam Gambino
David Gross
Junghwa Im
Matthew Kirscht
Mark Pingatore
Clause St. Aubin
Joe Simko
Smokin' Joe
Fred Wheaton
Known Artist Autograph cards so far:
1 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin' Joe
1 Tomb Gator(20) - Brent Engstrom
1 Feet Fighter(45) - Brent Engstrom
2 BO Shock(10) - Brent Engstrom
2 Diarrhea of Windy Kid(37) - Neil Camera
2 Klepto Bismol(39) - Junghwa Im
2 Newtella(51) - Junghwa Im
3 Play-Gogh(7) - Junghwa Im
3 Reeper's(9) - Neil Camera
3 B.O. Shock(10) - Brent Engstrom
3 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin' Joe
3 Might Be Dog(16) - Junghwa Im
3 Hippy Meal(22) - Smokin' Joe
3 Snakers(55) - Smokin' Joe
4 Pooper Mario(5) - Brent Engstrom
4 UltraTite(29) - Smokin' Joe
4 Pop Farts(38) - Mark Pingatore
5 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin'Joe
5 Fiber Won(23) - Fred Wheaton
6 Peter Pawn(13) - David Gross
6 Scream of Wheat(18) - Matthew Kirscht
6 Rold Cold(19) - Claude St. Aubin
6 Crawley Racher(36) - Joe Simko
8 Pooper Mario DooDLand(5) - Brent Engstrom
8 Blow Hole Pop(26) - Junghwa IM
8 Crawley Rancher(36) - Joe Simko
9 Milk Deads(3) - Junghwa Im
9 Tomb Gator(20) - Brent Engstrom
9 Bogus Burgers(34) - Brent Engstrom
10 Wuss in Boots(27) - Mark Pingatore
10 UltraTite(29) - Smokin' Joe
12 Green Chant(24) - Pat Chaimuang
12 Chronic Degenerates(25) - Brent Engstrom
12 Chia Pest(41) - Sam Gambino
12 East Muck(44) - Junghwa Im
12 Benadrool(47) - Jungwa Im
12 Newtella(51) - Junghwa Im
12 Pampered(52) - Brent Engstrom
12 Lucky Germs(53) - Junghwa Im
13 BO Shock(10) - Brent Engstrom
13 Hippy Meal(22) - Smokin' Joe
13 Bean Jerky(25) - Sam Gambino
13 Lucky Germs(53) - Junghwa Im
14 BO Shock(10) - Brent Engstrom
14 Cementos(43) - Neil Camera
14 Feet Fighter(45) - Brent Engstrom
15 Flustered Flakes(2) - Fred Wheaton
15 Play-Gogh(7) - Junghwa Im
15 Crawley Rancher(36) - Joe Simko
15 Feet Fighter(45) - Brent Engstrom
15 Snakers(55) - Smokin' Joe
I'm thinking the artist sigs are tied to whoever developed the concept or painted the art for that card.
As far as the titles go in relation to the artists, I don't believe there is a correlation. It appears there were sets of 1 to 55 printed up for these BEFORE the artists gold imprint xx/15 which may have been printed/applied after. Maybe Dr Popper could weigh in on that...
Known Artist Autograph cards so far:
1 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin' Joe
3 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin' Joe
5 Dungeon Donuts(11) - Smokin'Joe
Here are the lists if it helps anyone out to figure a pattern. Again, the artists could clear this up for sure...I think the artist sigs are tied to whoever developed the concept or painted the art for that card.
I think the artist sigs are tied to whoever developed the concept or painted the art for that card.
Just like the postcards, the sigs aren't random, they are only signed by the artist that developed/painted the card.
I think the artist sigs are tied to whoever developed the concept or painted the art for that card.
Just like the postcards, the sigs aren't random, they are only signed by the artist that developed/painted the card.
...have Engstrom Zelduh 1/15 (35)
These are on eBay:
Tric Tac #46, John Zeleznik Autograph
Newts and Adders #48, Brent Engstrom Autograph
These were on eBay:
Chocolate Crypt, #6, Joe Simko Autograph
I have or soon will have:
Chux Mix #42, Junghwa Im Autograph
Ninjagoo #49, John Zeleznik Autograph
Monster Thigh #54, Brent Engstrom Autograph
Also, I'd like to confirm that awful apps & as screamed were only available in regular black border & cloth, but in none of the other parallel border or back variations.yes. that is correct.
yes. that is correct.
mods I'd like to see with the top of the list:
Base Set (55) available in the following formats:
Black border (Retail and Collector editions)
Cloth set (Retail and Collector editions)
Gold border (Retail and Collector editions)
Blue border (Retail edition only)
Silver border (Retail edition only)
Red border (Collector edition only)
Black background canvas (Collector edition only)
Black Ludlow (Collector edition only)
Red Ludlow (Collector edition only)
Thanks Rabid Shaver, buckycap, PG Lips, Zenergizer for the additional artists. That leaves 13 artist autograph samples of the 55 titles that haven't surfaced yet:
1 Mtn Doom
4 Taco Belch
8 Lite Sabers
12 Petsi
14 Tubby Grahams
15 Zombie Fitness
17 Pull Pop
21 Helly Belly
30 Deers of War
31 Allmud Joy
33 Fruit of the Loon
40 Mortal Komrades
50 Mimecraft
Master list updated with the additional artist autos referenced. Is anyone going for an artist auto set???
P.S. 13 artists have now been identified in the artist autograph set:
Artists w/auto cards so far(13):
Neil Camera
Pat Chaimuang
Brent Engstrom
Sam Gambino
David Gross
Junghwa Im
Matthew Kirscht
Mark Pingatore
Clause St. Aubin
Joe Simko
Smokin' Joe
Fred Wheaton
John Zeleznik
some further suggested tweaks for consistency:
Tweaked for consistency :great:
I was reading on blowout cards that black & red lud backs are 75 subjects - are the awful apps & as seen on TV available in ludlow backs?
Also, are the printing plates available in 75 subjects x 4 colors for a total of 300 printing plates in the entire run?
Tweaked for consistency :great:
I was reading on blowout cards that black & red lud backs are 75 subjects - are the awful apps & as seen on TV available in ludlow backs?
Also, are the printing plates available in 75 subjects x 4 colors for a total of 300 printing plates in the entire run?
might be right on the plates...I have a B12 Bonus Plate
I pulled an Allmud Joy (31) Fred Wheaton 09/15
some further suggested tweaks for consistency:
Awful Apps set (10) available in the following formats:
Black border (Retail and Collector editions)
Cloth (Retail and Collector editions)
1.
2.
....
10.
As screamed set (10) available in the following formats:
Black border (Retail and Collector editions)
Cloth (Retail and Collector editions)
1.
2.
....
10.
Lost wacky set (3) available in the following formats:
Black border (Collector Edition only)
Gold border w/red Ludlow back (Collector Edition only)
L1 Growgerm
L2 Reejeck Sneakers
L3 Shebad
By "format" of retail or collector edition; are you saying there are two differnt variations? Or just two ways to get them?just that there are two ways to get them. some things are only retail, some only collector, but some were released to both
Have we found all artist autos?
After the last 2 posts, we're down to 6 unknown/unsurfaced:
12 Petsi
21 Helly Belly
30 Deers of War
33 Fruit of the Loon
40 Mortal Komrades
50 Mimecraft
After the last 2 posts, we're down to 6 unknown/unsurfaced:
12 Petsi
21 Helly Belly
30 Deers of War
33 Fruit of the Loon
40 Mortal Komrades
50 Mimecraft
Tweaked for consistency :great:
I was reading on blowout cards that black & red lud backs are 75 subjects - are the awful apps & as seen on TV available in ludlow backs?
I'd like to fill in some additional holes in the master list regarding packaging & contents.My guess is three boxes for the jumbos, one for each bonus pack type. There is a box for sure for the B1/B2, as full boxes are selling on ebay. I've been trying to get the box number without actually buying one, but... also, 501 & 502 would not be in the same box.
I see there are 24 pack hobby boxes on ebay, and Topps is selling 16 pack hobby boxes. Can anyone confirm the pack codes, pack contents, box codes & case codes & box qty for each of the 24 pack & 14 pack boxes?
Regarding the jumbo packs, does anyone know if the 3 different packs come in different boxes or are there 2 boxes? (I went to target & 501 & 502 packs were on the same hook. The other pack was at toysrus) Any case info (codes/qty) on the jumbo packs, or are they just shipped in boxes?
Petsi is Wheaton.
My guess is three boxes for the jumbos, one for each bonus pack type. There is a box for sure for the B1/B2, as full boxes are selling on ebay. I've been trying to get the box number without actually buying one, but... also, 501 & 502 would not be in the same box.
the 24 pack hobby box numbers I already posted, those are not wrong.
the 16 pack retail box numbers for what topps is selling online will have to wait until someone actually gets one. I'll probably order one during the april fool's event. The pack # may or may not be different than the hobby, but the box number definitely is different.
I was initially given the same info from my dealer regarding ludlows being available on the subsets as well as the base set of 55, but I was told that it was an error. The Luds should only be found on the base titles, with the exception of the 3 Lost Wacky titles with the gold borders.
A couple questions for the diligent who maintain these lists (terrific job, by the way)... I saw references to the Master Lists on the forum and did some searching and found them. I do not, however, see updates to these topics when I look at the HOME tab list of recent posts. Do others see posts for this topic show up there?
How much info are you looking to drive into these lists... for example, in ANS10 there seems to be some artists that did shaped sketches and some that didn't. Are we interested in capturing that level of detail? How about the ludlow variations for OS3 and OS4, I didn't want to add unwanted info to the existing lists.
I'd be happy to include information as detailed as someone who has done the research/compilation is willing to do. I think a list of artists who did sketchcards would be important, and if it could be further broken down into who did regular or shaped or both would be even better.
As far as the olds3 & 4, I would say if you have the lud variation info, no reason not to include it, but I would raise each individual issue & add any info into each appropriate thread.
I don't know which of the many ANS10 threads this belongs but I watched a plain white box get placed in the toy section of a Target near my work and inside were the jumbo packs. Interestingly, all but one have this "only at target" marking. Why would one not have the marking? I bought one with and one without the marking just so I could open some ASN10 material knowing it hadn't been searched. Do these have the possibility of having sketches? Anyone want me to grab the rest of these knowing they are unsearched?
I got a B1, aweful app(#9), tatt00(#7), #46 blue from the non target pack and B4, Awful app(#3), #51 silver, #41 blue from the target pack.
So far no info has surfaced about the jumbo pack box. If you could at least get any codes off the box, that would be helpful. I'd be interested in the box (just the box) if you are able to get it. Check the 1st post in this thread for the pack codes available at each location. I will be posting specific content for the 3 jumbo packs shortly.there were no codes on the box, it was a completely white detail-less box. I suspect it was inside a larger shipment of excel products that were all mixed in one case and the wackys in this white box.
P.S. I do believe the top pack has the same odds as all other "regular" retail packs - silver, gold, sketch, magnet or tattoo in the "hot card" position. The bottom packs all have 1 bonus sticker & the rest regular base cards (or at least all of the 16 packs I opened from Target & ToysRUs.
Here is the artist breakdown (who did "traditional sketches" versus the new shaped sketches) as observed thus far on the forum and eBay auctions. Thus far, It appears if an artist did any shaped sketch card, they have done some of each shape.
TRADITIONAL SKETCHES SHAPED SKETCHES ARTIST
x Jason Brower
x x Neil Camera
x x Brent Engstrom
x x Sam Gambino
x David Gross
x x Matthew Kirscht
x x Mark Parisi
x x Mark Pingatore
x Sara Richards
x x Joe Simko
x Smokin' Joe
x Strephon Taylor
x x Colin Walton
x Jeff Zapata
x Mike Zapata
Thanks Scot.
P.S. Do you know if there were shaped sketches in retail packs as well, or just in the collectors boxes/cases?
I believe the shaped sketches are collector box exclusives but am not 100% sure.
I believe you are right too but you never know about Topps and some of their screw ups. The collector wrapper lists the odds for the shaped sketch. I don't believe the retail lists shaped.
:16: What's "Grab the Throne" supposed to be?game of thrones. Hugely popular HBO sword and fantasy series.
I'm not sure if anyone else collects packs &/or wrappers... I like to try and get one pack & wrapper of each type for my collection,I just picked up all three of those boxes (the 16 ct box, 24 ct box & 24 ct hobby box) and was going to post later to see if anyone was interested in some unopened packs, but since you asked...
I just picked up all three of those boxes (the 16 ct box, 24 ct box & 24 ct hobby box) and was going to post later to see if anyone was interested in some unopened packs, but since you asked...
$2.50 / pack + postage. for any of the 3 types.
also - updated wrapper list. including what the wrapper is made from - foil or plastic.
Note - the 16 pack box contains rack pack style wrappers, like we saw with ANS8
Wrappers/Packs (pack codes from packs in boxes, and all kinds of retail/blister packs):
PKG000481 Collector Edition Wrapper (foil)
PKG000482 Pack from 16 pack Retail Rack Pack Box (foil)
PKG000483 Gravity Feed Pack (seen at Target) (white plastic)
PKG000484 Jumbo Pack w/ B5 & B6 (seen at Walmart and TRU) (plastic)
PKG000501 Jumbo Pack w/ B1 & B2 (seen at Target) (plastic)
PKG000502 Jumbo Pack w/ B3 & B4 (seen at Target) (plastic)
PKG000529 Pack from 24 pack Hobby Edition (foil)
PKG000541 Pack from 24 pack Retail Box (foil)
Not sure if this is posted here yet, but I came across one of the half size gravity feed boxes recently and was fortunate enough to snag it up. It was from the dollar store and it contained the "flow packs". Packs with just base cards in them. Also I noticed that the wrapper did not mention any odds on the back, since there are no odd of you getting any chase cards with those packs.Great find! I checked for flow packs for a couple of months after release and eventually gave up.