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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: koduck on October 13, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
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ARISE FROM YOUR GRAVES, POSTCARD FANS!!!
As most of you have probably guessed, the new Wacky Packages Halloween Postcards will be coming this way sooooooon! But before I make the formal announcement, Topps has suggested that I post this riddle for those who just can't wait. See if you can guess which day it will be:
Tomorrow is neither Wednesday nor Thursday. Yesterday was not Friday or Saturday. Today is not Thursday or Sunday or Monday. What is today?
UPDATE: THE POSTCARDS ARE NOW LIVE!!!! HERE'S THE LINK:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
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ARISE FROM YOUR GRAVES, POSTCARD FANS!!!
As most of you have probably guessed, the new Wacky Packages Halloween Postcards will be coming this way sooooooon! But before I make the formal announcement, Topps has suggested that I post this riddle for those who just can't wait. See if you can guess which day it will be:
Tomorrow is neither Wednesday nor Thursday. Yesterday was not Friday or Saturday. Today is not Thursday or Sunday or Monday. What is today?
THE ANSWER WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY...
It's Friday!
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It's Friday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
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Riddle me this Batman - which Tuesday in October is it? Next week? :-\
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Riddle me this Batman - which Friday in October for this release? Do you mean tomorrow? iPhone 4S day? Yikes!
Yikes? why? 4S will make it super easy to get them. Just ask Siri to buy them for you! :D
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Yikes? why? 4S will make it super easy to get them. Just ask Siri to buy them for you! :D
I actually changed my message after thinking about this. Ironically I have a flight on Tuesday. Just like the last release. I sure hope it's in the morning because I'm screwed otherwise.
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I actually changed my message after thinking about this. Ironically I have a flight on Tuesday. Just like the last release. I sure hope it's in the morning because I'm screwed otherwise.
can't be Tuesday, because then tomorrow would be Wednesday...
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awesome-O !!
Hopefully I can stay awake to midnight on that night (whichever one it is?). Lately, with
this head cold, all I want to do is sleep, sleep, sleep.....
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awesome-O !!
Hopefully I can stay awake to midnight on that night (whichever one it is?). Lately, with
this head cold, all I want to do is sleep, sleep, sleep.....
Friday seems to be the only logical answer. But would that mean this Fri, or next? Next friday is close to the 20th, last years date.
But then again if today is tomorrow... :-\
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Holy schmoly Batman, I mean Robinson Crusoe, let's hear it for Friday!
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/Friday.png)
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ARISE FROM YOUR GRAVES, POSTCARD FANS!!!
As most of you have probably guessed, the new Wacky Packages Halloween Postcards will be coming this way sooooooon! But before I make the formal announcement, Topps has suggested that I post this riddle for those who just can't wait. See if you can guess which day it will be:
Tomorrow is neither Wednesday nor Thursday. Yesterday was not Friday or Saturday. Today is not Thursday or Sunday or Monday. What is today?
THE ANSWER WILL BE REVEALED SHORTLY...
Just another day in paradise?
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wHOO hOO!
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can't be Tuesday, because then tomorrow would be Wednesday...
Doh! :73:
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I wonder if any of the sets will be reserved for the show. As i recall, someone bought some PC 6 sets at a Topps booth at a NS show.
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It's Friday!
Yes, but is that the day of the release, or the day the announcement will be made?
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It's Friday!
I choose Friday!! as well...All Hail Halloweeniesssss..... :] :] :] :]
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Yes, but is that the day of the release, or the day the announcement will be made?
I'm with DrSushi.
Seems like the release date is going to be Oct 21st, but I think Neil just wants to tease us a bit more! ;)
Of course the next question will be -- what time (and I'm assuming it'll be Eastern Time) on the release date?
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I'm with DrSushi.
Seems like the release date is going to be Oct 21st, but I think Neil just wants to tease us a bit more! ;)
Of course the next question will be -- what time (and I'm assuming it'll be Eastern Time) on the release date?
Friday the 21st is the theoretical philly show trading day so this could complicate folks traveling for the show.
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I would hope it would be today. Friday the 14th is a nice tie in with Halloween and the lack of advance notice would thwart some of the resellers.
DrDeal
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Won't no notice pretty much thwart everybody?
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Won't no notice pretty much thwart everybody?
I didnt mean no notice. If it was posted sometime today that they would go on sale at Midnight tonight then most of us would probably see it or let each other know about the news. Plus the site gets much more traffic around releases anyway as we attempt to keep up on the release info.
Andrew
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Having two Friday's as the answer to this riddle is more confusing than enlightening! Doh! :o
If it is next Friday, that will be tough for the Philly Show people, which is really ironic. Maybe if the release date was originally the 21st they could change it to the 20th? Might be nice for these folks?
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Having two Friday's as the answer to this riddle is more confusing than enlightening! Doh! :o
If it is next Friday, that will be tough for the Philly Show people, which is really ironic. Maybe if the release date was originally the 21st they could change it to the 20th? Might be nice for these folks?
Yup, I called this out a few posts ago but I am skeptical of a large number of people heading to Allentown for the show Friday, I think it will end up being a small handful and they can just be prepared with internet access from the hotel. They can have a post card buying party!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyC0X1z4J0U
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ATTENTION!!
Neil has asked me to post this message on his behalf since he is having trouble with internet today...............
THE LIMITED HALLOWEEN POSTCARD SERIES IS SCHEDULED TO BE AVAILABLE TONIGHT AT 9PM.
There is the same limit of 3 per customer, and they are available at the usual spot at the shoptopps.com online store.
Good luck and enjoy!
PS - this is NOT a joke!
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this will be the wacky community for the next several hours....
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jco/lowres/jcon1619l.jpg)
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he cant get computer access anywhere like work or the public library maybe even someones phone?
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ATTENTION!!
Neil has asked me to post this message on his behalf since he is having trouble with internet today...............
THE LIMITED HALLOWEEN POSTCARD SERIES IS SCHEDULED TO BE AVAILABLE TONIGHT AT 9PM.
There is the same limit of 3 per customer, and they are available at the usual spot at the shoptopps.com online store.
Good luck and enjoy!
PS - this is NOT a joke!
this is quite an unusual turn of events
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this is quite an unusual turn of events
I know, I was really thinking it was going to be next Friday, especially since it would have been the same date as last year.
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ATTENTION!!
Neil has asked me to post this message on his behalf since he is having trouble with internet today...............
THE LIMITED HALLOWEEN POSTCARD SERIES IS SCHEDULED TO BE AVAILABLE TONIGHT AT 9PM.
There is the same limit of 3 per customer, and they are available at the usual spot at the shoptopps.com online store.
Good luck and enjoy!
PS - this is NOT a joke!
EST I'd take it?
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Holy crap. I would have totally missed it if I didn't have to order pizza on my computer just now. I'm gathering this is 9PM eastern. Correct?
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Holy crap. I would have totally missed it if I didn't have to order pizza on my computer just now. I'm gathering this is 9PM eastern. Correct?
We should all PM a few people to let them know - I've PM'd BigTomi, Campy, DPV, Duzn't, Gurgle, Pupsi, and Porkie so far.
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EST I'd take it?
that's EDT until November - when the clocks are set back to Standard time
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that's EDT
Yes, we are still on daylight.
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that's EDT until November - when the clocks are set back to Standard time
Ah! I stand corrected, good catch!
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We should all PM a few people to let them know - I've PM'd BigTomi, Campy, DPV, Duzn't, Gurgle, Pupsi, and Porkie so far.
Also Zenergizer, JasonLiebig, SlamJim, RawGoo, ScaryLee, Paul Maul, Monsterettes, and Head and Boulders.
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Holy crap. I would have totally missed it if I didn't have to order pizza on my computer just now. I'm gathering this is 9PM eastern. Correct?
Good question.........Neil didn't mention that but it must be eastern time since Topps' headquarters is located in NY.
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Good question.........Neil didn't mention that but it must be eastern time since Topps' headquarters is located in NY.
Did you post on the other forum?
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Good question.........Neil didn't mention that but it must be eastern time since Topps' headquarters is located in NY.
Any chance of this being a Trick or Treat joke? :-\
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Any chance of this being a Trick or Treat joke? :-\
I dont think so, today is the best day to do this. Next week is too hard for the show goers.
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Any chance of this being a Trick or Treat joke? :-\
I do like to pull pranks but this would be pretty bad! No, this is the info Neil gave me and it's no joke.
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25 users online and no one's talking....
tic toc, tic toc
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25 users online and no one's talking....
tic toc, tic toc
2 minutes..to go...
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25 users online and no one's talking....
tic toc, tic toc
I'm talking, but its to myself.
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Also Zenergizer, JasonLiebig, SlamJim, RawGoo, ScaryLee, Paul Maul, Monsterettes, and Head and Boulders.
A big shout out to Dr Sushi and Scary Lee for the news on this!!!!!!
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i'm scared
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I'm talking, but its to myself.
someone should post the link....regardless...
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A big shout out to Dr Sushi and Scary Lee for the news on this!!!!!!
Glad to help. Pass on the news while we're waiting!
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damn, 9 sharp waz a dud
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nothing yet.....
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25 users online and no one's talking....
tic toc, tic toc
I don't see anything on Topps Online Store. Is that where we are supposed to be?
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25 users online and no one's talking....
tic toc, tic toc
It's now 26 users and 20 guests....
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903 ???
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903 ???
9:05. I typed Halloween in the search engine on Shop Topps .com and got:
Your search for "halloween" did not match any products that we carry.
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maybe 9pm west, or 12am midnight sale edt
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I think they were a few minutes late with the last couple releases as well. Hopefully soon....
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Thanks to everyone for the email shout outs!!
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Thanks to everyone for the email shout outs!!
ok now Topps is playing with us.... :P
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You can buy some erasers while you wait ;)
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Neils internet still doesnt work? my date is mad that my eyes are glued to my smart phone and not her.
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Maybe this time the glutton didn't get 75 sets, he got all 300 sets!!!
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ok now Topps is playing with us.... :P
Haven't seen anything yet on my end. I'm tired of hitting the damn refresh button!
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9:05. I typed Halloween in the search engine on Shop Topps .com and got:
Your search for "halloween" did not match any products that we carry.
Really? All I got was "LOL."
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Yeah, this is pretty bizarre... Would be nice if Neil could verify. Seems like a Halloween Hex is upon us! >:D
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Or maybe the guy that is supposed to list them fell asleep?
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I can see the guys at Topps laughing, hit the load button on the page or not hahahahahah! >:D >:D
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I can see the guys at Topps laughing, hit the load button on the page or not hahahahahah! >:D >:D
I picture a few guys at Topps huddling around a computer monitor reading our posts and giggling at us.
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I can see the guys at Topps laughing, hit the load button on the page or not hahahahahah! >:D >:D
probably trying to do it using a Blackberry
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Haven't seen anything yet on my end. I'm tired of hitting the damn refresh button!
My index finger feels like its going to fall off!
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Really? All I got was "LOL."
Good one!
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Odd that we didn't get the email notification from Neil. Seems like that should have happened earlier today when he posted the thread? Hmmm.
:: Keeps hitting refresh on shoptopps.com ... ::
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I guess the suspense is fun, and it gives me an opportunity to make a first post after years of lurking.
Daniel
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I guess the suspense is fun, and it gives me an opportunity to make a first post after years of lurking.
Daniel
Welcome to Friday Night Lights on the Wacky Forum.
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I guess the suspense is fun, and it gives me an opportunity to make a first post after years of lurking.
Daniel
Welcome to the forum Mr. Lurker :great:
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My index finger feels like its going to fall off!
What's the difference between Wacky Package Halloween PCs and the G-spot?
A guy will spend 30 minutes looking for Wacky Package Halloween PCs.
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Maybe Neil meant 9PM Central since he is in Central time zone?
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I suppose its to edgy for a cancellation joke.
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Ok now I am thinking was this supposed to be 9 PM Neil's time?
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Maybe Neil meant 9PM Central since he is in Central time zone?
Could be. In which case we will have to keel him. :]
Can someone call Neil and ask him for verification?
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Maybe Neil meant 9PM Central since he is in Central time zone?
isn't he Mountain time? I thought he lived in Colorado
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I suppose its to edgy for a cancellation joke.
I wouldn't even attempt it... :] :]
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Maybe Neil meant 9PM Central since he is in Central time zone?
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I guess i should have paid attention to the usually meaningless "Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post."
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isn't he Mountain time? I thought he lived in Colorado
Neil lives in Kansas now.
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I keep checking 3 places, front page...wacky page...and new products.
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I'd like to thank Rob for getting us all together for a Friday night chat! :D
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Im guessing his phone is getting bad service too. I prolly not gonna score with my date or the pc
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I wouldn't even attempt it... :] :]
I was considering a really cool cancellation joke but I was worried that someone cool might fall for it and go to bed and miss out on the set :P
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Maybe I should ask Siri on my new iPhone? :o
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Okay, my F5 key just caught fire..... now what?
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Trick ....Trick....Trick....no Treat! ;)
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I got a rock...
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Im guessing his phone is getting bad service too. I prolly not gonna score with my date or the pc
This is a good test dude, if she stays shes golden. If not, well that speaks to her character. This means alot to you. if you mean alot to her not only will she understand, but encourage you.
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I predict my beverage will be empty and the PC's will go on sale at 9PM Central! :49:
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Trick ....Trick....Trick....no Treat! ;)
So what time will it be in New York when it is 9 PM in Kansas?
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So what time will it be in New York when it is 9 PM in Kansas?
about a half an hour from now. 10PM
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Neil lives in Kansas now.
I keep forgetting we're not in Kansas anymore.
If I only had a brain.
I just want some Halloween Post Cards.
Do you think the wizard can help?
The wizard? Nobody sees the wizard....not no way....not ho how.
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about a half an hour from now. 10PM
Thanks!
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.not ho how.
I bet that ho knows how to see the wizard
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I've got the shoptopps page on my iPad now (btw the shoptopps site is NOT iPad friendly! had to type in the URL by looking at my desktop browser).
Going to check the site every few minutes and will come back to the desktop for 10-20 minutes after 9pm CT to see what's up.
I got a rock... LOL!! :]
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I keep forgetting we're not in Kansas anymore.
If I only had a brain.
I just want some Halloween Post Cards.
Do you think the wizard can help?
The wizard? Nobody sees the wizard....not no way....not ho how.
LOL I thought about saying I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.
Carry on my wayward son.
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What's the difference between Wacky Package Halloween PCs and the G-spot?
A guy will spend 30 minutes looking for Wacky Package Halloween PCs.
:]
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I prolly not gonna score with my date or the pc
You could take your iPad to bed while you try to find her G-spot
R U a good multitasker?
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Now I'm wondering about people who aren't posting here -- Duznt and Crust come to mind. Anyone have a way of pinging them other than PM (which I just did)? Am thinking maybe people want to give a heads up to those they can?
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I dont see pupsi either...can someone contact Shoe?
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Now I'm wondering about people who aren't posting here -- Duznt and Crust come to mind. Anyone have a way of pinging them other than PM (which I just did)? Am thinking maybe people want to give a heads up to those they can?
Duznt (John) lives in California and usually is not online till later in the evening, I misplaced his telephone number :sad:
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I keep forgetting we're not in Kansas anymore.
If I only had a brain.
I just want some Halloween Post Cards.
Do you think the wizard can help?
The wizard? Nobody sees the wizard....not no way....not ho how.
"Heeeelp me MR. Wizard!!!!" - Tooter Turtle
(http://s3.postimage.org/cl878wck/tooter.gif) (http://www.postimage.org/)
"Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome; time for zis one to come home." - Mr. Wizard
(http://s2.postimage.org/7l4w07ok/tooter.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7l4w07ok/)
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Now I'm wondering about people who aren't posting here -- Duznt and Crust come to mind. Anyone have a way of pinging them other than PM (which I just did)? Am thinking maybe people want to give a heads up to those they can?
That is a good idea. I called my good buddy Plastered, I don't have many other numbers.
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I dont see pupsi either...can someone contact Shoe?
Shoe was signed on just a bit ago I thought?
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I dont see pupsi either...can someone contact Shoe?
I PM'd him and he got back to me, so he knows!
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Shoe was signed on just a bit ago I thought?
I just talked to Shoe. He knows about them!
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I wonder if we will break the record for most online at once?
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How about Playbug? I havent seen him either. Can anyone contact him?
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Okay, my F5 key just caught fire..... now what?
What F5 key! Mine is gone now! On top of that I now have carpel tunnel syndrome!! Help!
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even with all of us refreshing the site is moving at great speeds
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Maybe it's 9:00pm Pacific? :-)
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Maybe it's 9:00pm Pacific? :-)
Would be midnight Eastern... has happened before.
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I tried calling Topps Vault and no answer, and I don't think Neil is home and I don't have his cell #, so I'm not sure what's going on.
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I tried calling Topps Vault and no answer, and I don't think Neil is home and I don't have his cell #, so I'm not sure what's going on.
Rob
this is getting stupid already!!what's the deal...
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maybe 9pm west, or 12am midnight sale edt
Now i'm convinced no one reads my posts.
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Maybe it's 9:00pm Pacific? :-)
Maybe it WAS 9 a.m.!!!
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Watching MAN, WOMAN, WILD on Discovery channel (another of their survival shows). Drinking game idea: take a swig whenever Mike says, "Honey". Would be on my a$$ after 20 minutes.
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Maybe it WAS 9 a.m.!!!
maybe it was 9pm next friday??
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Ok i called Duznt and left a message after scrambling for his number, and I called Cheryl (Hipton).
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Now i'm convinced no one reads my posts.
I read your posts :P
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Watching MAN, WOMAN, WILD on Discovery channel (another of their survival shows). Drinking game idea: take a swig whenever Mike says, "Honey". Would be on my a$$ after 20 minutes.
Or every time he says "ain't" would work too! I'm watching that too. It was between that or I Shouldn't Be Alive.
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Or every time he says "ain't" would work too! I'm watching that too. It was between that or I Shouldn't Be Alive.
I've had All in the Family on. That's usually loud enough to keep me awake, and the last one was with Maude, so it was plenty loud :)
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I've had All in the Family on. That's usually loud enough to keep me awake, and the last one was with Maude, so it was plenty loud :)
Who said we are children of the '70s?
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my hand sweating has worked up a paste on my mouse
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Ok, one two three... click click click click click click click click click click click click
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It's now 9pm Central Time. Cheers!
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It's after 9:00pm in Kansas!
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Or every time he says "ain't" would work too! I'm watching that too. It was between that or I Shouldn't Be Alive.
Now its between TOSH.0 and THE SOUP
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Ok, one two three... click click click click click click click click click click click click
I'm starting to think that they may not show tonight. How late would they go with a release like this? I don't know. I wish I could get a hold of Neil.
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I'm starting to think that they may not show tonight. How late would they go with a release like this? I don't know. I wish I could get a hold of Neil.
I would certainly check back at midnight.
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This really stinks. I don't know how long to wait now? I also don't want to miss out. What to do? What to do?
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(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/OnOff.gif)
Thats his F5 key
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That is a good idea. I called my good buddy Plastered, I don't have many other numbers.
John, you da man. I thought about calling Shoe. Glad he's in on it.
Follow the yellow brick road!
Is it 9PM somewhere? anywhere?
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This really stinks. I don't know how long to wait now? I also don't want to miss out. What to do? What to do?
Ohhhhhhhhhh 999,999,999 wackys on the wall......
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(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/OnOff.gif)
Thats the tally switch for all the fools lined up for nothing.
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On THE SOUP.... "Paul McCartney's new bride's last name is Chavell... that's with two legs" Ugh!
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On THE SOUP.... "Paul McCartney's new bride's last name is Chavell... that's with two legs" Ugh!
You are a sick sick person and I LOVE it!
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ITS UP ROLL TROOPS ROLL
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One thing's for sure, if the guys with 5 to 25 contacts got this tip, they're going to have a bunch of very agitated contacts right about now.
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You are a sick sick person and I LOVE it!
Hey, gotta pass the time some way... I think a lot of us will be here another 2 hoursssszzzzZZZZ Z ZZ Z Z Z
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In and out by 10:13 est.
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ITS UP ROLL TROOPS ROLL
I see it, but I can't put any in my cart!
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Got 3!
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I see it but no add to cart button yet!
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Will they be on toppsonline store?
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In and out by 10:13 est.
Are they gone already?
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they are LIVE
got my order in
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They just appeared for me a couple of minutes ago and I bought mine.
This was the URL that got me to 'em:
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
Good luck everyone! :great:
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Theres no add to cart button!!
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Are they gone already?
I think they are gone??? :-\ :-\
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they are LIVE
got my order in
I still can't click on them. Can someone post a link?
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Are they gone already?
I got my 3! But they are SOLD OUT now. (Now I am actually joking)
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I still can't click on them. Can someone post a link?
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-Wacky-Packages/Categories
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I got my 3! But they are SOLD OUT now. (Now I am actually joking)
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
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Got my 3 sets!!!!!
I didn't see them on the main page this time, but they are under the Wackys section -- very last item shown! Better act fast people! I bet they are sold out before midnight eastern time!
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WOW, that was nerve racking. I kept hitting refresh on the main topps screen. I just checked the forum and still didn't see them. They couldn't have hidden it any better. Glad I got 3 though.
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clip of the topps page
edit: ah. Sue Me beat me too it.
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I got my 3! But they are SOLD OUT now. (Now I am actually joking)
Dude,
Now that there's funny!!
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FINALLY - but they are too cool - super nice job once again by Neil and friends!!! 8 bio cards..damn that's gonna suck....this time we report the flippers...
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HERE's A LINK TO THE HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS (AS OF FRIDAY, 10:15 EST):
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
My apologies for the lack of a proper update! I had an emergency that kept me away from my computer all day. Thanks to Rob Palmer (Dr Popper) for helping out and giving everyone a little bit of notice.
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No joy here. Still no add to cart button. :(
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http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-Wacky-Packages/Categories
Thanks! I got them, but I had to use my wife's laptop. For some reason there was the button and drop down box did not show up on my computer. Weird.
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HERE's A LINK TO THE HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS (AS OF FRIDAY, 10:15 EST):
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
My apologies for the lack of a proper update! I had an emergency that kept me away from my computer all day. Thanks to Rob Palmer for helping out and giving everyone a little bit of notice.
any color sketch cards??
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No joy here. Still no add to cart button. :(
Yes there is!
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HERE's A LINK TO THE HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS (AS OF FRIDAY, 10:15 EST):
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
My apologies for the lack of a proper update! I had an emergency that kept me away from my computer all day. Thanks to Rob Palmer (Dr Popper) for helping out and giving everyone a little bit of notice.
Thanks Neil!! Looking forward to seeing these!
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No joy here. Still no add to cart button. :(
Try different browsers (internet explorer, firefox, etc).
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No joy here. Still no add to cart button. :(
Keep trying. My wife's computer uses FireFox and she could see the add to cart button. I am using Explorer and couldn't see it.
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I HAD TO SWITCH TO INTERNET EXPLORER... FIREFOX WOULD NOT SHOW THE ADD TO CART BUTTON.
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Dude,
Now that there's funny!!
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FINALLY - but they are too cool - super nice job once again by Neil and friends!!! 8 bio cards..damn that's gonna suck....this time we report the flippers...
So with 660 sets and 2 bio's per set, that's 165 bio-sets of 8. Series 7 only had 71 sets of 5, so these should actually be easier this time around if my math was correct.
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660 sets this time. We should be able to order more than 3 sets.
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Keep trying. My wife's computer uses FireFox and she could see the add to cart button. I am using Explorer and couldn't see it.
and I used Chrome with no issues at all.
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God, that was awful! I picked 3 and hit 'add to cart', but nothing would go into my cart!! I freaked and pulled out my old laptop, thankfully it was sleeping, and not actually shut down.
I wonder if it's something with this new laptop and/or IE9.
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Wow there are 660 sets, that ought to take a while to sell out. What was the number of prior sets?
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I had to go to a different computer to get it to show up. Very weird. I did get 3 sets though.
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So with 660 sets and 2 bio's per set, that's 165 bio-sets of 8. Series 7 only had 71 sets of 5, so these should actually be easier this time around if my math was correct.
As long as we don't get doubles with our 3 sets you should be able to find them on ebay fairly cheap.
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No joy here. Still no add to cart button. :(
I had the same problem....go back to the main Topps Online page, and start all over again selecting Entertainment -> Wacky Packages _> etc.
Holy Cow! I was on the phone with Hipton when we both discovered that the Halloween wackys were there for sale! We were talking about Erasers series 2!
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What is the order limit... 3 or 5?
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God, that was awful! I picked 3 and hit 'add to cart', but nothing would go into my cart!! I freaked and pulled out my old laptop, thankfully it was sleeping, and not actually shut down.
I wonder if it's something with this new laptop and/or IE9.
Maybe Topps site is just overloaded. With 660 sets, I bet they're there for at least a few more minutes!
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God, that was awful! I picked 3 and hit 'add to cart', but nothing would go into my cart!! I freaked and pulled out my old laptop, thankfully it was sleeping, and not actually shut down.
I wonder if it's something with this new laptop and/or IE9.
You need to get a Mac!
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What is the order limit... 3 or 5?
3
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What is the order limit... 3 or 5?
just go buy some and find out! ;)
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I just ordered 75 sets so if anyone needs one just let me know :]
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Wow there are 660 sets, that ought to take a while to sell out. What was the number of prior sets?
How can you tell how many are left?
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I got my order in - yay! Thank you Pat and Mike for alerting me via email. I would have totally missed out on this (again)!
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How can you tell how many are left?
You can't.
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just go buy some and find out! ;)
And chance getting on the lynch list? Not the Jay Lynch list either.
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I got my order in - yay! Thank you Pat and Mike for alerting me via email. I would have totally missed out on this (again)!
Glad you got 'em!
I'm glad I didn't break my computer when I couldn't see the add to cart button.
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660 sets this time. We should be able to order more than 3 sets.
I agree...what was the total number of Halloween 2010 sets, 300? Hi Neil, with 660 sets this time around does Topps have a plan to open up the number of sets to unlimited after a certain time period if they don't sell out within a finite time window?
Thanks! Fatso
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Glad you got 'em!
I'm glad I didn't break my computer when I couldn't see the add to cart button.
Yeah, that would be pretty nerve racking. I was fumbling around trying to enter my credit card info before something happened and the site shut down.
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Glad you got 'em!
I'm glad I didn't break my computer when I couldn't see the add to cart button.
Me too. I was freakin' refreshing to get the ADD TO CART to appear. Tried logging out, refreshing cache, etc. Had to switch from Firefox to IE although I added an eraser series 2 box earlier using Firefox. What up wit dat?
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Anyone else feel like they need a nap after that rush?
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I agree...what was the total number of Halloween 2010 sets, 300? Hi Neil, with 660 sets this time around does Topps have a plan to open up the number of sets to unlimited after a certain time period if they don't sell out within a finite time window?
Thanks! Fatso
Last years Halloween series had 500 sets. Even at 660 these will sell out very fast though. I'll be surprised if they last a couple hours.
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We should all PM a few people to let them know - I've PM'd BigTomi, Campy, DPV, Duzn't, Gurgle, Pupsi, and Porkie so far.
Thanks for the heads up shout out Sushi ! Just placed my order at 10:25 ET. Thanks !!!
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I just ordered 75 sets so if anyone needs one just let me know :]
75 Sets???????
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Me too. I was freakin' refreshing to get the ADD TO CART to appear. Tried logging out, refreshing cache, etc. Had to switch from Firefox to IE although I added an eraser series 2 box earlier using Firefox. What up wit dat?
That's funny - I added a series 8 box to my cart earlier with IE, but I still can't see the Halloween PC ADD TO CART button using IE. I didn't purchase the series 8 box when using my wife's computer because I didn't want to waste any time!
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As long as we don't get doubles with our 3 sets you should be able to find them on ebay fairly cheap.
Ah, don't be so sure. I lost out on last year's Halloween set and had to be VERY patient before getting a set on ebay for 109. Several went before for well over that price.
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Thanks for the heads up shout out Sushi ! Just placed my order at 10:25 ET. Thanks !!!
You are welcome, I'm glad you got 'em!
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Anyone else feel like they need a nap after that rush?
A loooooooooooooong winter's, well autumnal, nap. But first....Iron Maiden is on Vh1 classic!
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That's funny - I added a series 8 box to my cart earlier with IE, but I still can't see the Halloween PC ADD TO CART button using IE. I didn't purchase the series 8 box when using my wife's computer because I didn't want to waste any time!
That is weird. This sounds like a cache issue but like I said, I refreshed my cache. Hmmm. I didn't even try on my iPad using Safari. It has troubles navigating the Topps on-line store site. Some of the drop downs won't show values. Jeeez, its frantic enough trying to "beat the clock" much less play what-web-browser-will-work-this-time.
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How about Playbug? I havent seen him either. Can anyone contact him?
Just got here, thanks for thinking of me.. :great:
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Dr popper, my apologies for not believing you. thanks for relaying neils message bro.
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Dr popper, my apologies for not believing you. thanks for relaying neils message bro.
did your date stay with you during all this?
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she took my phone away and put in her purse i took it out when she wasnt looking and said holy sh*t
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did your date stay with you during all this?
My only date tonight are my 2 daughters, and they did stay up with me! I'll have to buy them some series 2 erasers tomorrow because I was going to watch a movie with them tonight!
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Dr popper, my apologies for not believing you. thanks for relaying neils message bro.
No problem, people joke around so much around here you never know for sure!
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No problem, people joke around so much around here you never know for sure!
I have to admit, for a second it crossed my mind, but I knew Dr Popper would never be lying to us. Not about this!
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So with 660 sets and 2 bio's per set, that's 165 bio-sets of 8. Series 7 only had 71 sets of 5, so these should actually be easier this time around if my math was correct.
series 7 had 6 bio cards and you got two per pack so if my math is correct their were 166 possible set unless I missed something? with the additional sets you have more bio cards but now we have 8 in a set so the total is about the same. ??
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I have to admit, for a second it crossed my mind, but I knew Dr Popper would never be lying to us. Not about this!
Only the Wizard would lie, til he gets busted !
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75 Sets???????
I kid! I kid!
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Thanks for the entertaining comments. Ya'll sure know how to kill an hour or so. Now, I'll work on my 'post count' so I can get on the better mailing list.
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I just ordered 75 sets so if anyone needs one just let me know :]
Did you have your dentist order you a set also?
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Only the Wizard would lie, til he gets busted !
The wizard never gave nothing to the tin man, that he didn't, didn't already have.
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Thanks for the heads up shout out Sushi ! Just placed my order at 10:25 ET. Thanks !!!
Luckily I got an email from someone whose email starts with "oneiron" otherwise I would have missed this.
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(http://s4.postimage.org/2h7snz1no/rachie.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2h7snz1no/)
just for fun, my dates thoughts on Halloween post cards
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I keep looking at them (the new set) and get this feeling of being violated knowing i spent upwards of $200 for 1 unopened pack last year. It remains unopened!
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No problem, people joke around so much around here you never know for sure!
BTW Postcards are NOW Cancelled!!! :D :D :D
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Luckily I got an email from someone whose email starts with "oneiron" otherwise I would have missed this.
I emailed a couple of people, but thought I had seen you logged in here. Sorry about that!
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(http://s4.postimage.org/2h7snz1no/rachie.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2h7snz1no/)
just for fun, my dates thoughts on Halloween post cards
Time to get a new date... :P :P
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Luckily I got an email from someone whose email starts with "oneiron" otherwise I would have missed this.
Who could that be? ;D
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I was wondering if the postage on these are correct: $11.82 for PS Ground from NY to NJ? Does that sound right?
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I kid! I kid!
only 220 sets left!! and Going FAST...... ;D ;D ;D here come the flippers...
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I was wondering if the postage on these are correct: $11.82 for PS Ground from NY to NJ? Does that sound right?
No...Its highway robbery!! Tell Topps I want a rebate...or more SETS!!!
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(http://s4.postimage.org/2h7snz1no/rachie.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2h7snz1no/)
just for fun, my dates thoughts on Halloween post cards
Sure, She's cute now...but will she still be Gem-Mint 10 in 40 years?
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Who could that be? ;D
LOL, thanks for having my back dude! I just linked your email to you.
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Very happy to have finally been able to buy sets when they went on sale! :great:
Ever so slightly annoyed at the 8 bio cards with a limit of 3 sets. I know it's a niggle, but if there were 660 total sets (i.e. more than previously) having a limit of 4 sets would make so much more sense if they contain 2 cards in each set. Just sayin'... ;D
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(http://s4.postimage.org/2h7snz1no/rachie.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2h7snz1no/)
just for fun, my dates thoughts on Halloween post cards
I know, she's pointing at the postcards with her thumb and they are out of the frame of the picture ! She's smiling so I guess she like's em !
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I was wondering if the postage on these are correct: $11.82 for PS Ground from NY to NJ? Does that sound right?
15+ from NY to NY does that sound right?
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Sure, She's cute now...but will she still be Gem-Mint 10 in 40 years?
hopefully not a 6 or 7...
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Sure, She's cute now...but will she still be Gem-Mint 10 in 40 years?
Someone should slab her right now while she's still all minty.
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15+ from NY to NY does that sound right?
I'm about the same distance from NY as Slamjim. From NY to my NJ address was 11. something for shipping, so I guess it's right. At least it is consistent.
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I was wondering if the postage on these are correct: $11.82 for PS Ground from NY to NJ? Does that sound right?
That's what I was charged for NY to NY.
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LOL yea that would be awesome if we could slab them now. :great:
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Someone should slab her right now while she's still all minty.
He hasnt commented back, he could be slabbing her right now. Thing is she could prolly use a tanning bed and still get a PSA 9.
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I'm about the same distance from NY as Slamjim. From NY to my NJ address was 11. something for shipping, so I guess it's right. At least it is consistent.
The 'Vault' charges WAY Less for stuff they sell on Ebay ($3.75) - which is much bulkier and heavier...sounds like someone has an 'edge' , spread, vig...you get the drift!!! :o :o :o Ah Capitalism!!!and we only waited 1hr 15 min...
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He hasnt commented back, he could be slabbing her right now. Thing is she could prolly use a tanning bed and still get a PSA 9.
Wait, if he's slabbing her right now, does that mean she's no longer mint in her original wrapper?
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The 'Vault' charges WAY Less for stuff they sell on Ebay ($3.75) - which is much bulkier and heavier...sounds like someone has an 'edge' , spread, vig...you get the drift!!! :o :o :o Ah Capitalism!!!and we only waited 1hr 15 min...
Dag, I logged on around 10pm ET, got a message from Sushi and missed the official start to the waiting ! I feel like Linus now, there's alway's next year.
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(http://s4.postimage.org/2h7snz1no/rachie.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2h7snz1no/)
just for fun, my dates thoughts on Halloween post cards
Geez she actually exists. I thought you were talking about your penis...LOL :88:
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Wait, if he's slabbing her right now, does that mean she's no longer mint in her original wrapper?
As long as her corners aren't bent and there's no gum stains she'll hold her value. :great:
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OK, I guess the $11.82 is for 3 sets. Would it have been the same for 1 set? They don't combine?
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LMAO!! Bumchex, your alright bro,
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Glad you got yours. I just got home a little while ago and thought I would jump on just because there was so much Halloween chatter earlier. Glad I did, I just got my sets!
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15+ from NY to NY does that sound right?
I got a $14.95 UPS shipping charge to Indiana but that also included a series 2 Eraser gravity feed as well
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OK, I guess the $11.82 is for 3 sets. Would it have been the same for 1 set? They don't combine?
Don't know, I got 3 too.
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I got a $14.95 UPS shipping charge to Indiana but that also included a series 2 Eraser gravity feed as well
That's thinking! Combined shipping!
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If anyone is only planning on buying one set please buy 3 and sell me the other 2. Just PM me if you need the money now.
Thanks!
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If anyone is only planning on buying one set please buy 3 and sell me the other 2. Just PM me if you need the money now.
Thanks!
How it that any different from having friends and family buy extra sets? :) I'm not intentionally being an ass here, but I'd love to buy more than 3 sets as I'm sure would many others. ;D
What we should do is do some kind of "Wacky Forum Overflow Pool" where anyone buying the max limit from Topps can put any unopened extras they don't really want into the pool. Then everyone who wants to buy from the pool puts their names in and we draw out winners like a lottery. That might thwart the flippers a little at least. ;)
I grabbed a couple of those Wacky Erasers 2 boxes to help with the combined shipping. Man, I really dislike shipping costs!
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We should all PM a few people to let them know - I've PM'd BigTomi, Campy, DPV, Duzn't, Gurgle, Pupsi, and Porkie so far.
Much appreciated, thanks to all for the messages!
Was at a Drs. appt for my wife all afternoon with limited cell phone access. When I got the msg, I thought "oh good, I have till 9 pm my time" (was thinking midnight EST again) - Wrong! After I got another message from another forum member, I realized my mistake... So much for my "early warning system" idea huh...
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Looks like there are about 80 sets left.
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Looks like there are about 80 sets left.
How can you tell?
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How can you tell?
I was thinking that.
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Still some available as of 11:50pm CT. Definitely lasted longer than last time.
Maybe you can keep adding 3 to the cart? :)
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Still some available as of 11:50pm CT. Definitely lasted longer than last time.
Maybe you can keep adding 3 to the cart? :)
I pinged at least a dozen people who I wasn't sure were on this email flow. So far have one confirmed "save" of someone who would have otherwise missed out. Seems the buddy system has some merits eh?!
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I pinged at least a dozen people who I wasn't sure were on this email flow. So far have one confirmed "save" of someone who would have otherwise missed out. Seems the buddy system has some merits eh?!
Sweet! :D
Now for some sleep... Stressful Wacky night! ;)
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already on ebay...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-2011-Halloween-Edition-Postcard-set-/110758700394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9bba56a#ht_500wt_1151 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-2011-Halloween-Edition-Postcard-set-/110758700394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9bba56a#ht_500wt_1151)
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already on ebay...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-2011-Halloween-Edition-Postcard-set-/110758700394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9bba56a#ht_500wt_1151 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-2011-Halloween-Edition-Postcard-set-/110758700394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9bba56a#ht_500wt_1151)
WOW..that was fast.
Still seems to be at least 60 sets left....shocked they released over over 600 sets this round.
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I pinged at least a dozen people who I wasn't sure were on this email flow. So far have one confirmed "save" of someone who would have otherwise missed out. Seems the buddy system has some merits eh?!
I contacted about 12 people, have at least 5 confirmed saves :D
Does anyone know if the guy on ebay that has the set up the same guy that had 75 sets before? I don't know his user ID.
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Oh, big big thanks to Dr Popper for saving me! I definitely would have missed out.
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How it that any different from having friends and family buy extra sets? :) I'm not intentionally being an ass here, but I'd love to buy more than 3 sets as I'm sure would many others. ;D
That's Topps rule. It ain't the law of the land.
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How can you tell?
You can add 3 to the cart, then you can go to the cart and manually adjust it to whatever number. Right now there are 67 sets left. 90% sold out.
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You can add 3 to the cart, then you can go to the cart and manually adjust it to whatever number. Right now there are 67 sets left. 90% sold out.
Ah, I didn't realize the part about changing the number in the cart. Thanks!!
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48 sets still available as of 3:45am ...
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Got my 3 sets at 6:15 am. 24 sets left as of 6:50am. So the extra 160 sets (660 instead of 500)
and the three set limit saved me from not getting in on this release. :) I Did not check the forum last night after checking it about 5 times during the day. I figured things were done for the weekend after 5pm yesterday. I was very wrong. Thanks to Neil for another sweet set.
DrDeal
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I contacted about 12 people, have at least 5 confirmed saves :D
Does anyone know if the guy on ebay that has the set up the same guy that had 75 sets before? I don't know his user ID.
It's me. I bought 3 sets then put one on ebay........ >:D
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Got my 3 sets at 6:15 am. 24 sets left as of 6:50am. So the extra 160 sets (660 instead of 500)
and the three set limit saved me from not getting in on this release. :) I Did not check the forum last night after checking it about 5 times during the day. I figured things were done for the weekend after 5pm yesterday. I was very wrong. Thanks to Neil for another sweet set.
DrDeal
If my dog did not awaken me at 7:00 am, I may have missed them. Thanks Neil for the heads up Email and Fritz for waking me up.
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I was wondering if the postage on these are correct: $11.82 for PS Ground from NY to NJ? Does that sound right?
Nine and some change to Scranton which was for two sets.
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Luckily I got an email from someone whose email starts with "oneiron" otherwise I would have missed this.
Sorry I didn't send you a PM Ernie, I thought I saw that you posted after the announcement. Sorry to others that I missed as well - I was not very organized and was just shotgunning PMs randomly. We need a better system!
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Got my 3 sets at 6:15 am. 24 sets left as of 6:50am. So the extra 160 sets (660 instead of 500)
and the three set limit saved me from not getting in on this release. :) I Did not check the forum last night after checking it about 5 times during the day. I figured things were done for the weekend after 5pm yesterday. I was very wrong. Thanks to Neil for another sweet set.
DrDeal
18 sets left as of 7:59 Am EAstern time.
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Down to 10...
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Only 4 sets left...
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Dang i missed it. Just got home 8am this morning. Bummer!
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Dang i missed it. Just got home 8am this morning. Bummer!
Go try!!!
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I missed it too. This is the first release I missed. Thanks for sending the notice Dr Sushi, I just got it a bit too late. Strange thing is, the link is still live on topps and it doesn't show sold out. It just doesn't add anything to your shopping cart.
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I missed it too. This is the first release I missed. Thanks for sending the notice Dr Sushi, I just got it a bit too late. Strange thing is, the link is still live on topps and it doesn't show sold out. It just doesn't add anything to your shopping cart.
There might be sets left - a lot of us had a problem with the shopping cart. I had to switch pcs, others tried firefox or safari. Don't give up yet!!
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Yeah, Billf, try again. I just did (thanks Raw Goo!) and it worked for me.
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i actually got in on it this time, thanks to some of my wacky pals on here.
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Looks like they're sold out now.
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Looks like they're sold out now.
Hopefully Bill got them - there were 3 left when I looked a few minutes ago.
Also, for anyone else who shows up later today, it doesn't hurt to check back on the link periodically. Sometimes sets get added back later on.
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
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Looking foreward to seeing what they look like.
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Looking foreward to seeing what they look like.
Me too!! 7 titles shown or partially shown on the ad, and the title of the bonus card seems to add up with the 8 artists. I wonder what the mini postcard is.......
It'd be cool if Topps puts an Old School promo in with the orders ;)
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Hopefully Bill got them - there were 3 left when I looked a few minutes ago.
Also, for anyone else who shows up later today, it doesn't hurt to check back on the link periodically. Sometimes sets get added back later on.
http://www.toppsonlinestore.com/servlet/the-871/2011-Wacky-Packages-Postcards/Detail
Thanks for checking back. I'll check during the day today, but the store says SOLD OUT now. :'(
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Sorry I didn't send you a PM Ernie, I thought I saw that you posted after the announcement. Sorry to others that I missed as well - I was not very organized and was just shotgunning PMs randomly. We need a better system!
No worries dude, it was not your job. It seems while the buddy system was somewhat reckless, it still found a way to work to some degree :great:
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I missed it too. This is the first release I missed. Thanks for sending the notice Dr Sushi, I just got it a bit too late. Strange thing is, the link is still live on topps and it doesn't show sold out. It just doesn't add anything to your shopping cart.
I also tried to ping you via PM hoping your are set up so PM's are sent to your email I didn't have everyone's email addresses handy. Sorry this didn't work out.
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No worries dude, it was not your job. It seems while the buddy system was somewhat reckless, it still found a way to work to some degree :great:
That was my hope, if we just sent out a bunch of PMs that those people would tell two friends, then those people would tell two friends, and so on, and so on...
Glad you got your sets!
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I missed it too. This is the first release I missed. Thanks for sending the notice Dr Sushi, I just got it a bit too late. Strange thing is, the link is still live on topps and it doesn't show sold out. It just doesn't add anything to your shopping cart.
Dang, sorry I was late. It just occurred to me this am to go through my PMs to hit more people. As Pat said, keep trying - sometimes people have some in their carts or just cancel an order. Also consider PMing Neil (Koduck) as he usually tries to get those left out a set (I'm a bit of an expert at being left out on these!).
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Dang, sorry I was late. It just occurred to me this am to go through my PMs to hit more people. As Pat said, keep trying - sometimes people have some in their carts or just cancel an order. Also consider PMing Neil (Koduck) as he usually tries to get those left out a set (I'm a bit of an expert at being left out on these!).
I think people need to stop playing "how many are left" as this causes supply to be locked into carts and prevents some of the late comers from getting any that might remain.
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I think people need to stop playing "how many are left" as this causes supply to be locked into carts and prevents some of the late comers from getting any that might remain.
I agree. Those queued up lots are not available near the end to people who are trying to get some. We all know this stuff sells out quickly, I don't think that it's crucial that we all know the exact minute they are sold out.
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Dang, sorry I was late. It just occurred to me this am to go through my PMs to hit more people. As Pat said, keep trying - sometimes people have some in their carts or just cancel an order. Also consider PMing Neil (Koduck) as he usually tries to get those left out a set (I'm a bit of an expert at being left out on these!).
Thank you for contacting me.
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I think people need to stop playing "how many are left" as this causes supply to be locked into carts and prevents some of the late comers from getting any that might remain.
That's a good point. Someone who tries towards the end and wasn't able to add to their cart may have got discouraged and walked away, when it may have worked 5 minutes later.
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series 7 had 6 bio cards and you got two per pack so if my math is correct their were 166 possible set unless I missed something? with the additional sets you have more bio cards but now we have 8 in a set so the total is about the same. ??
Your right, I'm not sure what I was looking at last night but I was using 1 bio-card per set for series 7 and it's 2 per set. So like you said it end up being almost exactly the same if your goal is to get a full set of bio's.
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It's me. I bought 3 sets then put one on ebay........ >:D
That's cool, I am glad it wasn't that guy. I'm hoping that the major scalpers missed out completely.
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The morning after
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/AfterLastNightsPartay.png)
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Thank you for contacting me.
No problem, I hope you got your set(s)!
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I'm amazed that it made it through the night. I'm thinking the flippers didn't get in on 100 sets this time otherwise it would have sold out quicker.
There are a few flippers on ebay now but it looks like these guys only got in on 3 each.
I'll be content with 3 sets this time....until I see the cool sketches and then all hell breaks loose...LOL
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The morning after
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/rbishop224/AfterLastNightsPartay.png)
Too funny! We didn't break any online records last night but it was a hell of a party!
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I'm amazed that it made it through the night. I'm thinking the flippers didn't get in on 100 sets this time otherwise it would have sold out quicker.
There are a few flippers on ebay now but it looks like these guys only got in on 3 each.
I'll be content with 3 sets this time....until I see the cool sketches and then all hell breaks loose...LOL
I agree that this may have thwarted the flippers, at least to some degree. Since it took until this morning for the postcards to sell out, anyone who was really interested and had checked the forum in the last 2 days (since Neil put up the riddle) would probably be checking AND have some time to make their purchase. I personally think this method was better than previous versions.
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There are a few flippers on ebay now but it looks like these guys only got in on 3 each.
and it looks like those 2 auctions at the outlandish $179 BIN are really from the same guy, along with that bonus card.
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I agree that this may have thwarted the flippers, at least to some degree. Since it took until this morning for the postcards to sell out, anyone who was really interested and had checked the forum in the last 2 days (since Neil put up the riddle) would probably be checking AND have some time to make their purchase. I personally think this method was better than previous versions.
I think if we can implement a good text messaging tree, as has been suggested, this could work even better. Texts can reach a lot of us at times when PM's and emails may not.
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F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK! F*CK!
I've been out of town for 2 days and completely missed this. I thought it would be next week.
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and it looks like those 2 auctions at the outlandish $179 BIN are really from the same guy, along with that bonus card.
Actually your assumption is incorrect. I am selling one of the sets and my twin brother is selling the other. We both write Wacky concepts for Topps including 3 of the 8 featured in this Halloween series. As far as describing the asking price as "outlandish", I respectfully disagree. The auctions are BIN or Best Offer If they sell at the BIN price then that's the fair market rate at the time....if they sell for less through a Best Offer then that's what they're worth. If they don't sell at all then we'll enjoy opening the packs ourselves. I see that as pretty fair. I also find it funny that many folks on this forum "flip" Wackys on a regular basis then have the nerve to call others out for the exact same behavior. Why is it anyone's business what someone does with the extra allotted packs they purchase? Afterall, nobody is being forced to spend the $179 through a BIN.
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One of the more lucid comments to hit this forum in a long time. :great:
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Actually your assumption is incorrect. I am selling one of the sets and my twin brother is selling the other. We both write Wacky concepts for Topps including 3 of the 8 featured in this Halloween series. As far as describing the asking price as "outlandish", I respectfully disagree. The auctions are BIN or Best Offer If they sell at the BIN price then that's the fair market rate at the time....if they sell for less through a Best Offer then that's what they're worth. If they don't sell at all then we'll enjoy opening the packs ourselves. I see that as pretty fair. I also find it funny that many folks on this forum "flip" Wackys on a regular basis then have the nerve to call others out for the exact same behavior. Why is it anyone's business what someone does with the extra allotted packs they purchase? Afterall, nobody is being forced to spend the $179 through a BIN.
Ouch!! Go Dracky - Love live Capitalism!! ;D ;D ;D
I think the major thrust behind forum members here with their OCD of the Halloween PC's is the people (ie "scum suckers") that go around the 3 limit rule and have their entire family tree buy 80 sets then flip them on the 'bay' for good profit...we're after them - lynch'em I say!!! >:D >:D
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One of the more lucid comments to hit this forum in a long time. :great:
What? You want me to post more? OK
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Capitalism is GREAT, as long as the people benifiting from it arnt the ones bashing it. I.E> All of hollywood, these F*cking clowns running the hippy protests, and that A$$hole Michael Moore.
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What if Topps auctioned off each set 1 at a time, instead of a public retail release? Is that capitalism, is it fair market value, or is it gluttony? Who desides?
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Actually your assumption is incorrect. I am selling one of the sets and my twin brother is selling the other. We both write Wacky concepts for Topps including 3 of the 8 featured in this Halloween series. As far as describing the asking price as "outlandish", I respectfully disagree. The auctions are BIN or Best Offer If they sell at the BIN price then that's the fair market rate at the time....if they sell for less through a Best Offer then that's what they're worth. If they don't sell at all then we'll enjoy opening the packs ourselves. I see that as pretty fair. I also find it funny that many folks on this forum "flip" Wackys on a regular basis then have the nerve to call others out for the exact same behavior. Why is it anyone's business what someone does with the extra allotted packs they purchase? Afterall, nobody is being forced to spend the $179 through a BIN.
Anyone can do whatever they want with the cards. We are just pointing out that they are showing up. It doesn't matter if you list them for $300 a set that doesn't mean anyone will pay it. Hey, if someone pays those prices then you did really well. With 660 sets I don't think the prices will go that high this time. Bonus cards will be selling under $10 in a week. I know quite a few sketches could go high but we still don't know the repeats yet.
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Capitalism is GREAT, as long as the people benifiting from it arnt the ones bashing it. I.E> All of hollywood, these F*cking clowns running the hippy protests, and that A$$hole Michael Moore.
Couldn't agree more...Wait until you see what the cops have in store for those clowns @ Zuccotti park...Must see TV...
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Couldn't agree more...Wait until you see what the cops have in store for those clowns @ Zuccotti park...Must see TV...
Couldn't disagree more with your attitude.
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How do others like the night releases? I, for one, would rather have them like this most recent one was rather than trying to steal time away at work during the day and feel guilty (ha!) about using the Internet for personal reasons.
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Couldn't disagree more with your attitude.
Agree with you totally. Referring to people who are calling out for change, who are tired of corporate welfare and tired of politicans passing laws that they are exempt, who Arne tired of the money putting their puppet politicians in office as clowns is quite ignorant statement.
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Couldn't agree more...Wait until you see what the cops have in store for those clowns @ Zuccotti park...Must see TV...
Why do you like Wacky's?
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How do others like the night releases? I, for one, would rather have them like this most recent one was rather than trying to steal time away at work during the day and feel guilty (ha!) about using the Internet for personal reasons.
Love the night releases coupled with the buddy system :)
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Why do you like Wacky's?
I don't think political views have any place on a Wacky forum. It just gets people in trouble.
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Love the night releases coupled with the buddy system :)
Me too, and had we known the correct time zone it would have been quick and painless.... but I thought last night's suspense and confusion was actually kinda fun and it was cool when pressing F5 finally changed the Topps page.
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I don't think political views have any place on a Wacky forum. It just gets people in trouble.
But technology views (iPad - king of all tablets) are OK? ;)
That's why we have the non-Wacky areas.
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I bought one
halloween set with the money I had in paypal and 2 sets with my debit. Since they were two seperate transactions, I got charged shipping twice. Does anyone think if I call topps on monday and explain, they will refund one of the shipping charges?
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But technology views (iPad - king of all tablets) are OK? ;)
That's why we have the non-Wacky areas.
You the man! No doubt!
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I don't think political views have any place on a Wacky forum. It just gets people in trouble.
I agree! What the HELL do the Wall Street protesters, which I support, or any other political ideology have to do with collecting Wackys??? Especially the postcards?
Get A Life!!!
I am really looking forward to getting my 3 postcard sets, as Neil and company did a great job on them based on the ad on ShopTopps.com. I do have one question though. Why 660 sets instead of 666 Sets???? That would have been cool! Maybe next year?
Great Job!!!!!
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Love the night releases coupled with the buddy system :)
Me too! I can always arrange to be home at a computer at night, whereas being able to take a day off from work depends on the specific day.
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Actually your assumption is incorrect. I am selling one of the sets and my twin brother is selling the other. We both write Wacky concepts for Topps including 3 of the 8 featured in this Halloween series. As far as describing the asking price as "outlandish", I respectfully disagree. The auctions are BIN or Best Offer If they sell at the BIN price then that's the fair market rate at the time....if they sell for less through a Best Offer then that's what they're worth. If they don't sell at all then we'll enjoy opening the packs ourselves. I see that as pretty fair. I also find it funny that many folks on this forum "flip" Wackys on a regular basis then have the nerve to call others out for the exact same behavior. Why is it anyone's business what someone does with the extra allotted packs they purchase? Afterall, nobody is being forced to spend the $179 through a BIN.
Well said!
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How do others like the night releases? I, for one, would rather have them like this most recent one was rather than trying to steal time away at work during the day and feel guilty (ha!) about using the Internet for personal reasons.
I liked it especially if the 75 set hoarders got shut out. Definitely nice not worrrying about being in a meeting at work and not being able to order for a couple of hours.
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Thought the night release was great! Almost missing out amidst the confusion was a bit nerve-racking, but I'd do it again.
Buddy system worked pretty well imo, considering it was the first time. Think that'll help on the next PC release for sure.
Now we just have to wait for UPS... And I thought "4 to 6 weeks" as a kid was rough...
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I think the major thrust behind forum members here with their OCD of the Halloween PC's is the people (ie "scum suckers") that go around the 3 limit rule and have their entire family tree buy 80 sets then flip them on the 'bay' for good profit...we're after them - lynch'em I say!!! >:D >:D
The irritation and annoyance goes beyond those who circumvent the limits. I believe it also stems from those people who give the impression of being collectors who want these cards for the enjoyment but turn around and run to Ebay moments after their sets arrive in the mail.
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The irritation and annoyance goes beyond those who circumvent the limits. I believe it also stems from those people who give the impression of being collectors who want these cards for the enjoyment but turn around and run to Ebay moments after their sets arrive in the mail.
This is driven by sketch mania otherwise there is little reason to need more than one pack. So people kill their their packs and then sell off he obvious dupes in sets, bonus cards and chase cards. Why is selling off this surplus bad?
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...Wall Street protesters, which I support...
You just contributed to the very discussion which you chastised others for doing ;)
I like to think we're all friends here, brought together by Wackys (and other hobbies). So the non-Wacky areas let us chat about current events, including politics, among said friends.
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You the man! No doubt!
Not to belabor this off-topic discussion, but I feel compelled to point out that Wackys were originally conceived as a way to take a shot at big companies who make questionable claims about their products and their actual value to an average consumer. So creating artwork that was in many ways counter-culture and "underground" back in the 60's was an inherently political statement.
Now I don't peronally see this forum as the right place to debate the merits of the Occupy movement, as it's just too far removed from what we come here to read and discuss. But I do think it's worth noting that these cards were born out of a mindset of civic disobedience, and anyone who's collecting them probably has something of a renegade spirit that is at the heart of political dissent. That's why I (and a couple of others) find it odd that someone who collects them is on here bashing the Occupy Wallstreet people. It just doesn't add up.
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Not to belabor this off-topic discussion, but I feel compelled to point out that Wackys were originally conceived as a way to take a shot at big companies who make questionable claims about their products and their actual value to an average consumer. So creating artwork that was in many ways counter-culture and "underground" back in the 60's was an inherently political statement.
Now I don't peronally see this forum as the right place to debate the merits of the Occupy movement, as it's just too far removed from what we come here to read and discuss. But I do think it's worth noting that these cards were born out of a mindset of civic disobedience, and anyone who's collecting them probably has something of a renegade spirit that is at the heart of political dissent. That's why I (and a couple of others) find it odd that someone who collects them is on here bashing the Occupy Wallstreet people. It just doesn't add up.
Well said. Another lucid thought on the forum, we're on a roll!
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Well said. Another lucid thought on the forum, we're on a roll!
All that late night Wacky ordering tension has clicked the lucidity button ON !
Luckily I did not miss ordering this set and it was fortunate that I was able to catch it because a lot of the time I am playing out on Friday's or Saturday's either Solo or in my band. Night time release for these is great, but I'd rather it be on a Monday, Tues, Weds, or Thursday Night! :great:
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...that those people would tell two friends, then those people would tell two friends, and so on, and so on...
Just like Nice & Greasy! :]
Am I remembering the product for the commercial correctly?
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Not to belabor this off-topic discussion, but I feel compelled to point out that Wackys were originally conceived as a way to take a shot at big companies who make questionable claims about their products and their actual value to an average consumer. So creating artwork that was in many ways counter-culture and "underground" back in the 60's was an inherently political statement.
Now I don't peronally see this forum as the right place to debate the merits of the Occupy movement, as it's just too far removed from what we come here to read and discuss. But I do think it's worth noting that these cards were born out of a mindset of civic disobedience, and anyone who's collecting them probably has something of a renegade spirit that is at the heart of political dissent. That's why I (and a couple of others) find it odd that someone who collects them is on here bashing the Occupy Wallstreet people. It just doesn't add up.
WOW, nicely stated!
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Couldn't disagree more with your attitude.
Couldn't agree more with Gurgle's disagreement of your attitude.
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Well I just want to post a big THANK YOU to Tim Frick the crypto-man. He sent out an email at 8:04 pm Friday that the Halloween Postcards were on sale. Well Friday was an insane day at work and although I'll usually check the forum twice a day on my iphone I never got near it. You can imagine how relieved I was when my wife called to say she had seen Tim's email and bought us our 3 sets. So thanks Tim for the heads up.
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Love the night releases coupled with the buddy system :)
Here! Here! Both are winners in my opinion. Especially the buddy system!!
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Not to belabor this off-topic discussion, but I feel compelled to point out that Wackys were originally conceived as a way to take a shot at big companies who make questionable claims about their products and their actual value to an average consumer. So creating artwork that was in many ways counter-culture and "underground" back in the 60's was an inherently political statement.
Weren't they originally conceived as novelty sticker parodies of grocery items, for kids?
But I do get your point. It's just that sometimes, a cigar IS just a cigar.
So much of this (and some of the Wacky creators) came from Mad magazine, where the political satire seemed more clearly evident...at least to me. :-)
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This is driven by sketch mania otherwise there is little reason to need more than one pack. So people kill their their packs and then sell off he obvious dupes in sets, bonus cards and chase cards. Why is selling off this surplus bad?
This is about postcards sets and not cards from a readily available series nor is it about those who sell or trade excess bio cards and the like. What this focuses on are those who have currently or will (in the next 2 days or so) bombard Ebay with unopened sets because they care not of what's inside but of the dollar bill. Actions like this would tick me off even more if I was one of the unlucky who didn't land a set this past Friday night through Saturday morning.
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This is about postcards sets and not cards from a readily available series nor is it about those who sell or trade excess bio cards and the like. What this focuses on are those who have currently or will (in the next 2 days or so) bombard Ebay with unopened sets because they care not of what's inside but of the dollar bill. Actions like this would tick me off even more if I was one of the unlucky who didn't land a set this past Friday night through Saturday morning.
Gotcha, agreed!
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This is about postcards sets and not cards from a readily available series nor is it about those who sell or trade excess bio cards and the like. What this focuses on are those who have currently or will (in the next 2 days or so) bombard Ebay with unopened sets because they care not of what's inside but of the dollar bill. Actions like this would tick me off even more if I was one of the unlucky who didn't land a set this past Friday night through Saturday morning.
Why aren't you saying the same thing about Target or Walmart? They sure make a cold buck off the majority of Wacky products. You're not even talking about a guy who scored 50 sets. You're talking about anybody who sells one complete unopened set. Is this some weird working class ethic that implies you must sweat for your earnings? What business is it of yours what others do with their "fair share"?
The term "fair share" defines the maximum number of sets Topps allows a customer to purchase. A sort of fairness doctrine determined by plain old people like you and me. Yet it's held up by some collectors as federal law handed down by the wisest ethical scholars. It used to be 5 sets max. Now it's 3. If 5 sets was "fair and ethical" before then why isn't it fair and ethical now? If one bases his ethical codes on what a money grubbing corporation tells them to then one belongs in a field eating grass.
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Why aren't you saying the same thing about Target or Walmart? They sure make a cold buck off the majority of Wacky products. You're not even talking about a guy who scored 50 sets. You're talking about anybody who sells one complete unopened set. Is this some weird working class ethic that implies you must sweat for your earnings? What business is it of yours what others do with their "fair share"?
The term "fair share" defines the maximum number of sets Topps allows a customer to purchase. A sort of fairness doctrine determined by plain old people like you and me. Yet it's held up by some collectors as federal law handed down by the wisest ethical scholars. It used to be 5 sets max. Now it's 3. If 5 sets was "fair and ethical" before then why isn't it fair and ethical now? If one bases his ethical codes on what a money grubbing corporation tells them to then one belongs in a field eating grass.
I think it just gets him fired up enough to post, when he perceives people only buying to profit, and that activity inadvertently causing passionate hobbyists and forum members to miss out. And, since this forum community is about our shared passion for a hobby (not a business model) he voices his displeasure.
I might have missed what you're responding to specifically, with this business about about fairness and ethics, but I just think he was pissed off because it looked to him like pure profiteers were throwing a wrench into the fun of hobbyists, some of which are his fellow forum members.
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Not to belabor this off-topic discussion, but I feel compelled to point out that Wackys were originally conceived as a way to take a shot at big companies who make questionable claims about their products and their actual value to an average consumer. So creating artwork that was in many ways counter-culture and "underground" back in the 60's was an inherently political statement.
I was thinking at first that's a bit of a stretch, from questionable product advertising to politics. However now that I think about it, most politicians promise a lot and rarely deliver... So maybe you're on to something.
That's why I (and a couple of others) find it odd that someone who collects them is on here bashing the Occupy Wallstreet people. It just doesn't add up.
Maybe he sees the Occupy Wallstreet for what it really is, which is nothing more than a media distraction from Solargate, Weaponsgate, Unclegate, etc, etc...
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Agree with you totally. Referring to people who are calling out for change, who are tired of corporate welfare and tired of politicans passing laws that they are exempt, who Arne tired of the money putting their puppet politicians in office as clowns is quite ignorant statement.
I'm in total agreement with you.
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This is about postcards sets and not cards from a readily available series nor is it about those who sell or trade excess bio cards and the like. What this focuses on are those who have currently or will (in the next 2 days or so) bombard Ebay with unopened sets because they care not of what's inside but of the dollar bill. Actions like this would tick me off even more if I was one of the unlucky who didn't land a set this past Friday night through Saturday morning.
I missed out on one of the last postcard sets by less than 10 minutes, meanwhile I come to find out that at least 2 different people bought 25 or more sets. I was not happy to say the least and now have a major problem with the guys trying to buy up as many of these sets as possible. If the scalpers weren't thwarted this time I really hope the entire announcement process can be moved underground via emails, phone calls and texting.
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Whether you are for or against the "occupy" group you really need to read this great book. It certainly isn't light reading but will really open your eyes to many things by looking at not only the "intent" but the actual "effects of those intents" when it comes to the economy as a whole.
http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-4th-Ed-Economy/dp/0465022529/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318859496&sr=8-1
On the related economic topic of these "scalpers": You guys do realize that you have created them don't you? If the collectors of Wacky's refused to pay more than $20 for any sketch card then those guys wouldn't have any reason to want to buy as many sets as they could. It's the consumer who dictates what the price of a commodity is not the seller. The price is only set when someone actually pays for it. I have seen a bunch of you on here bitching about the high prices while you are forking over the cash. You ultimately decide. Don't bitch when you set the very prices you are bitching about. Besides, these people are not breaking any rules. It clearly states that only 3 are sold to a shipping address and that is what is happening. It just means that guy has to work a little harder to get more sets but they are not breaking any rules.
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Another thing to think about. If only the collectors bought the sets and they all kept the sketches then there would be none to sell so nobody would have a shot at any additional sketches. Plus when a bunch of sets get busted you actually get to choose the sketch you actually like instead of just getting the luck of the draw. You might really want to think about what you are actually "wishing for".
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I think the major gripe most people have is with a handful of people who were buying 25+ of these limited edition sets solely for the purpose of reselling, while serious collectors were unable to buy any because they ran out. i.e. it's not the selling of them that is the problem, it's the greed involved with those who were hoarding and flipping.
Comes back to a famous saying that's been somewhat distorted over the years: it's not that money is the root of all evil, it's the love of money that's the root of all evil. Greed. Pure and simple.
Unfortunately it seems greed is back in fashion now and seems to be the major driving force behind many people's actions over the past 20 years or so. It's always been around, but we are seriously reaping the rewards lately.
BTW, the "rule" is "maximum 3 sets per household", not just "per shipping address". It's a pretty loose term, but the intent is pretty obvious to limit the sets to any one person or entity. You can always get around everything with semantics (that's how the world manipulates us best).
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How it that any different from having friends and family buy extra sets? :) I'm not intentionally being an ass here, but I'd love to buy more than 3 sets as I'm sure would many others. ;D
What we should do is do some kind of "Wacky Forum Overflow Pool" where anyone buying the max limit from Topps can put any unopened extras they don't really want into the pool. Then everyone who wants to buy from the pool puts their names in and we draw out winners like a lottery. That might thwart the flippers a little at least. ;)
I grabbed a couple of those Wacky Erasers 2 boxes to help with the combined shipping. Man, I really dislike shipping costs!
i purchased my three sets from topps. what if I want to aquire a 4th and 5th set from ebay. R we just limited to 3 and thats it? Is it only acceptable to get your sets beyond your initial three if you pay a hefty premium?
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i purchased my three sets from topps. what if I want to aquire a 4th and 5th set from ebay. R we just limited to 3 and thats it? Is it only acceptable to get your sets beyond your initial three if you pay a hefty premium?
No. My point was that I couldn't see much of a difference between soliciting others for extra sets immediately via the forum and having a friend or relative buy extra sets for you.
I thought about having a friend buy extra sets so I would have true extras to sell to those who missed out, at the original cost plus the minor extra shipping. I remember the feeling of missing out (several times) and I thought this might be a nice thing to do, but I didn't because I felt it would violate the unspoken rule here that buying more than the max number of sets was somehow unfair to others, and I didn't want to risk being blacklisted by Topps by doing this.
And that is why I felt like soliciting others for extra sets immediately didn't seem much different than having friend or relatives buy 'em.
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Why aren't you saying the same thing about Target or Walmart? They sure make a cold buck off the majority of Wacky products. You're not even talking about a guy who scored 50 sets. You're talking about anybody who sells one complete unopened set. Is this some weird working class ethic that implies you must sweat for your earnings? What business is it of yours what others do with their "fair share"?
The term "fair share" defines the maximum number of sets Topps allows a customer to purchase. A sort of fairness doctrine determined by plain old people like you and me. Yet it's held up by some collectors as federal law handed down by the wisest ethical scholars. It used to be 5 sets max. Now it's 3. If 5 sets was "fair and ethical" before then why isn't it fair and ethical now? If one bases his ethical codes on what a money grubbing corporation tells them to then one belongs in a field eating grass.
Unless I'm living in the dark neither Walmart or Target sell postcard sets. In other words, a set L-O-W in quantity and not relatively easy to acquire. Both of these stores sell cards and erasers readily available. My window and chances of obtaining what they sell is not minimal.
As someone who doesn't circumvent the system and someone who collects for enjoyment rather then profit, you better believe it is my place. Not many people enjoy scalpers because that's exactly what some of these people are doing.
You are placing far too much importance on the limits instituted by Topps. The principal is the heart of the matter. Why do you think the sale happened late on a Friday night instead of an afternoon sale like we are accustomed to seeing?
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Come the Revolution, ALL packaging will be Wacky! http://observatory.designobserver.com/entry.html?entry=4267
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I missed out on one of the last postcard sets by less than 10 minutes, meanwhile I come to find out that at least 2 different people bought 25 or more sets. I was not happy to say the least and now have a major problem with the guys trying to buy up as many of these sets as possible. If the scalpers weren't thwarted this time I really hope the entire announcement process can be moved underground via emails, phone calls and texting.
How do you know for sure at least two people got 25 sets? And if you know, how did they come to get so many sets? This happened so fast it seems that there was no way anyone could get a bunch of people organized to buy them literally in the middle of the night.
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Whether you are for or against the "occupy" group you really need to read this great book. It certainly isn't light reading but will really open your eyes to many things by looking at not only the "intent" but the actual "effects of those intents" when it comes to the economy as a whole.
http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-4th-Ed-Economy/dp/0465022529/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318859496&sr=8-1
On the related economic topic of these "scalpers": You guys do realize that you have created them don't you? If the collectors of Wacky's refused to pay more than $20 for any sketch card then those guys wouldn't have any reason to want to buy as many sets as they could. It's the consumer who dictates what the price of a commodity is not the seller. The price is only set when someone actually pays for it. I have seen a bunch of you on here bitching about the high prices while you are forking over the cash. You ultimately decide. Don't bitch when you set the very prices you are bitching about. Besides, these people are not breaking any rules. It clearly states that only 3 are sold to a shipping address and that is what is happening. It just means that guy has to work a little harder to get more sets but they are not breaking any rules.
Great point.
care to provide an executive summary of the book?
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No. My point was that I couldn't see much of a difference between soliciting others for extra sets immediately via the forum and having a friend or relative buy extra sets for you.
I thought about having a friend buy extra sets so I would have true extras to sell to those who missed out, at the original cost plus the minor extra shipping. I remember the feeling of missing out (several times) and I thought this might be a nice thing to do, but I didn't because I felt it would violate the unspoken rule here that buying more than the max number of sets was somehow unfair to others, and I didn't want to risk being blacklisted by Topps by doing this.
And that is why I felt like soliciting others for extra sets immediately didn't seem much different than having friend or relatives buy 'em.
After what period of time does buying surplus sets from others collectors go from uncool to ok? Your rule is far too abritrary. I rarely open all of the packs I obtain so I am sitting on several previous release unopened packs. It is my perrogative to do what I want with my packs within the three pack limit. I think you have gone to far in now trying to govern what people do with their three packs and equating that to people who purposely create a chain so they can get 25 packs.
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hey topps,
the next time i go to Sri Lanka, I'm gonna take a detour to Calcutta, India for a day. Im gonna take a stack of 660 one dollar bills, walk into the middle of the slums and throw it up in the air and watch the people kill themselves for it. I'm betting there will be less complaining and whining there than on this forum. Sorry my Tourette's did it.
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How do you know for sure at least two people got 25 sets? And if you know, how did they come to get so many sets? This happened so fast it seems that there was no way anyone could get a bunch of people organized to buy them literally in the middle of the night.
Your right, it wasn't 25 sets.........it was 75 sets. I have first-hand knowledge that a buyer was able to network in the neighborhood of 75 sets in the last series. I'm not talking about this last release on Friday. I'm talking about series 7. I have good reason to believe another buyer also got between 25-35 sets for the same series, so that's at least 100 sets bought by 2 people when that amount should be enough for 33 people. That's 31 people that potentially couldn't get a set. That is what this issue is mainly about. They are abusing the system with one goal in mind........money, and at the expense of others.
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The overall theme of the book is that "economics is the study of the use of scarce resources which have alternative uses".
Quoted from the book:
"In other words, economics studies the consequences of decisions that are made about the use of land, labor, capital and other resources that go into producing the volume of output which determines a country's standard of living."
If you have the slightest interest in increasing your knowledge about how the economy really works I highly recommend the book. Very eye-opening on the intent of economic policies and the real results of those same policies. For example: He covers in great detail "rent control" which is supposed to help the poor but in reality has the complete opposite effect.
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I just received my shipping notification. Can't wait to see these. Probably be a week though since I'm on the west coast.
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I just received my shipping notification. Can't wait to see these. Probably be a week though since I'm on the west coast.
I got mine notification today as well and I often get mine the next day (sorry, I just realized that could be taken as rubbing your nose in it which was not my intention!) Nothing like opening that first envelope and seeing everything for the first time.
I believe this is the 9th series and counting, and we owe Neil a thanks for the work he puts into these sets!
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I believe this is the 9th series and counting, and we owe Neil a thanks for the work he puts into these sets!
We're actually on number 10, if you can believe it (7 regular releases and 3 Halloween)!
At this rate, next year's Halloween set could be number 13! Now, that would be spooky!
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(sorry, I just realized that could be taken as rubbing your nose in it which was not my intention!)
lol, not at all.... I'm used to having to sometimes wait a little longer.
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We're actually on number 10, if you can believe it (7 regular releases and 3 Halloween)!
At this rate, next year's Halloween set could be number 13! Now, that would be spooky!
Any chance Topps could create a binder specifically for Halloween Wacky Postcards? This seems to be an ongoing effort, and my one regular postcard binder is now too full to add any more, so I'd love to have one made specifically for the 3 sets already produced.
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Any chance Topps could create a binder specifically for Halloween Wacky Postcards? This seems to be an ongoing effort, and my one regular postcard binder is now too full to add any more, so I'd love to have one made specifically for the 3 sets already produced.
Now that's a grrrrreat idea!!! I'll definitely mention it to them!
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I thought this was only the 2nd set of Halloween Postcards?
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We're actually on number 10, if you can believe it (7 regular releases and 3 Halloween)!
At this rate, next year's Halloween set could be number 13! Now, that would be spooky!
Are you counting the 3 Halloween sketch cards you did in very limited quantity in 2009? I wasn't counting that one.
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Are you counting the 3 Halloween sketch cards you did in very limited quantity in 2009? I wasn't counting that one.
No, i think he means the one with Bots, And Fright Pie ect. you know, tricky treat
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Are you counting the 3 Halloween sketch cards you did in very limited quantity in 2009? I wasn't counting that one.
Yeah, I always count that one as the first (you never forget your first!), although I admit, it is a bit different from the rest. I guess I base it on the fact that it included the same basic elements (postcard, sketch cards, and specialty cards) and introduced the "Wacky Halloween" logo.
The biggest difference (IMO) was the introduction of the souvenir wrapper in last year's set.
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Your right, it wasn't 25 sets.........it was 75 sets. I have first-hand knowledge that a buyer was able to network in the neighborhood of 75 sets in the last series. I'm not talking about this last release on Friday. I'm talking about series 7. I have good reason to believe another buyer also got between 25-35 sets for the same series, so that's at least 100 sets bought by 2 people when that amount should be enough for 33 people. That's 31 people that potentially couldn't get a set. That is what this issue is mainly about. They are abusing the system with one goal in mind........money, and at the expense of others.
Thanks for clearing that up. I only has 2nd hand knowledge of the guy with 75 sets but I do know another seller had many bio sets up on ebay suggesting he purchased at least 25 sets.
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Yeah, I always count that one as the first (you never forget your first!), although I admit, it is a bit different from the rest. I guess I base it on the fact that it included the same basic elements (postcard, sketch cards, and specialty cards) and introduced the "Wacky Halloween" logo.
The biggest difference (IMO) was the introduction of the souvenir wrapper in last year's set.
In the cover sheets I do for each series (use in my binder books) I showed that the Halloween postcard and H1-H3 were actually released with the Series 4 envelopes, so I didn't count them with the three 2009 sketch titles. It doesn't really matter though. The bottom-line is that there's been a bunch of them.
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In the cover sheets I do for each series (use in my binder books) I showed that the Halloween postcard and H1-H3 were actually released with the Series 4 envelopes, so I didn't count them with the three 2009 sketch titles. It doesn't really matter though. The bottom-line is that there's been a bunch of them.
Good point! I'm glad you're keeping track of this stuff and not me!
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Thanks for clearing that up. I only has 2nd hand knowledge of the guy with 75 sets but I do know another seller had many bio sets up on ebay suggesting he purchased at least 25 sets.
If this latest postcard release turns out to be a repeat of the hoarding/flipping trend, I'm going to recommend that Topps raise their price of future postcard sets. They may not agree with my opinion, but I think it's the only reasonable solution to the problem.
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If this latest postcard release turns out to be a repeat of the hoarding/flipping trend, I'm going to recommend that Topps raise their price of future postcard sets. They may not agree with my opinion, but I think it's the only reasonable solution to the problem.
That would just make the "Flippers" more money because of supply and demand and percieved value
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Your right, it wasn't 25 sets.........it was 75 sets. I have first-hand knowledge that a buyer was able to network in the neighborhood of 75 sets in the last series. I'm not talking about this last release on Friday. I'm talking about series 7. I have good reason to believe another buyer also got between 25-35 sets for the same series, so that's at least 100 sets bought by 2 people when that amount should be enough for 33 people. That's 31 people that potentially couldn't get a set. That is what this issue is mainly about. They are abusing the system with one goal in mind........money, and at the expense of others.
Why not call these people out?
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The overall theme of the book is that "economics is the study of the use of scarce resources which have alternative uses".
Quoted from the book:
"In other words, economics studies the consequences of decisions that are made about the use of land, labor, capital and other resources that go into producing the volume of output which determines a country's standard of living."
If you have the slightest interest in increasing your knowledge about how the economy really works I highly recommend the book. Very eye-opening on the intent of economic policies and the real results of those same policies. For example: He covers in great detail "rent control" which is supposed to help the poor but in reality has the complete opposite effect.
Does it explain why people "invest" in gold over more useful commodities such as land and oil?
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That would just make the "Flippers" more money because of supply and demand and percieved value
And then Topps should rightfully supply that demand and regain control over the flippers.
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I'm thinking Topps isn't spending too much time analyzing buyer data. They are so happy that these sell out this fast. They are already on to the next great thing.
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If this latest postcard release turns out to be a repeat of the hoarding/flipping trend, I'm going to recommend that Topps raise their price of future postcard sets. They may not agree with my opinion, but I think it's the only reasonable solution to the problem.
Errr.... is that really a good solution? Charge all collectors more from the outset? I do see a logic to the idea, but ouch... that solution hurts.
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Why not call these people out?
Let me think about this a bit.
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Raising the prices on future releases won't do much to combat the hoarding/scalping. Maybe it's time Topps does something like Mattel does with their online toys by offering a subscription. Upfront you pay the price of one figure and this guarantees you receiving ONE of each new figure. You want more, you go online like everyone else and battle it out. The $20.00 you spent upfront also gives you a unique figure only available to subscribers.
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Come the Revolution, ALL packaging will be Wacky! http://observatory.designobserver.com/entry.html?entry=4267
Perfectly timed and placed post Jay !!! Capitalizm's knockoff's on the crusty global scale. :great:
That'll learn ya's.
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Why not call these people out?
We can stone them in a public forum with the new Wacky Erasers. ;D
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Raising the prices on future releases won't do much to combat the hoarding/scalping. Maybe it's time Topps does something like Mattel does with their online toys by offering a subscription. Upfront you pay the price of one figure and this guarantees you receiving ONE of each new figure. You want more, you go online like everyone else and battle it out. The $20.00 you spent upfront also gives you a unique figure only available to subscribers.
This idea sounds good to me! I don't think you can really engineer the "human" out of this process without substantially changing it.
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This idea sounds good to me! I don't think you can really engineer the "human" out of this process without substantially changing it.
I don't know, I think Topps should post the postcard sets without saying a word, just let it sell out when it sells out. Meanwhile Neil can contact 3 people here letting them know the release time and date and we can have a network set up that excludes the scalpers. I don't see this as difficult at all.
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Shouldn't the bread and butter of this hobby be the ones who hopefully get these sets and not those who do nothing to keep the hobby alive and well? Every effort should be made so these don't end up in the wrong hands.
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I don't know, I think Topps should post the postcard sets without saying a word, just let it sell out when it sells out. Meanwhile Neil can contact 3 people here letting them know the release time and date and we can have a network set up that excludes the scalpers. I don't see this as difficult at all.
I dont know if this would work well. These people potentially can make thousands of dollars from these. And it does seem these people have their own Wacky hobby, ripping people off who have no choice but to pay high prices to get an unopened one. They will and DO sit at the computer waiting for these. If i was a flipper for thousands i would make it my job to check the site 3-5 times a day everyday.
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Man, you guys still don't get it! If you all stop paying ridiculous prices for sketch cards then all of your problems are solved. The flippers/scalpers are all going to go away. If you keep paying many times the cost of the original product you are just continuing to roll out the red carpet for them to keep putting the screws to you. It's all pure economics. Limited supply + high demand = high prices. The more profit margin you guys build in the more scalpers are going to be attracted to this market.
The only way you are going to get rid of the scaplers is if you refuse to pay more than the cost of the set for any sketch card, period!
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I don't know, I think Topps should post the postcard sets without saying a word, just let it sell out when it sells out. Meanwhile Neil can contact 3 people here letting them know the release time and date and we can have a network set up that excludes the scalpers. I don't see this as difficult at all.
You are assuming nobody here is tightly associated with the scalpers.
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Man, you guys still don't get it! If you all stop paying ridiculous prices for sketch cards then all of your problems are solved. The flippers/scalpers are all going to go away. If you keep paying many times the cost of the original product you are just continuing to roll out the red carpet for them to keep putting the screws to you. It's all pure economics. Limited supply + high demand = high prices. The more profit margin you guys build in the more scalpers are going to be attracted to this market.
The only way you are going to get rid of the scaplers is if you refuse to pay more than the cost of the set for any sketch card, period!
Or Topps could produce the next postcard series with let say 3000 sets. This would fix the issue also :great:
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Man, you guys still don't get it! If you all stop paying ridiculous prices for sketch cards then all of your problems are solved. The flippers/scalpers are all going to go away. If you keep paying many times the cost of the original product you are just continuing to roll out the red carpet for them to keep putting the screws to you. It's all pure economics. Limited supply + high demand = high prices. The more profit margin you guys build in the more scalpers are going to be attracted to this market.
The only way you are going to get rid of the scaplers is if you refuse to pay more than the cost of the set for any sketch card, period!
You don't get it, trying to get a concerted effort across the board to not overpay for sketches will NEVER happen. We had a "union" like 15 years ago when the 8 most active collectors on ebay had agreed not to run each other up on ebay and to allow each of us "a turn" at winning auctions. At the end of the day, if a person wants an item and is willing to pay the most, they want the item regardless of any coorperation.
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You are assuming nobody here is tightly associated with the scalpers.
Possibly, but I doubt any one that risks losing out on their chance to get their sets really likes these guys.
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Man, you guys still don't get it! If you all stop paying ridiculous prices for sketch cards then all of your problems are solved. The flippers/scalpers are all going to go away. If you keep paying many times the cost of the original product you are just continuing to roll out the red carpet for them to keep putting the screws to you. It's all pure economics. Limited supply + high demand = high prices. The more profit margin you guys build in the more scalpers are going to be attracted to this market.
The only way you are going to get rid of the scaplers is if you refuse to pay more than the cost of the set for any sketch card, period!
The 2 biggest spenders on sketches don't even post here.
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I dont know if this would work well. These people potentially can make thousands of dollars from these. And it does seem these people have their own Wacky hobby, ripping people off who have no choice but to pay high prices to get an unopened one. They will and DO sit at the computer waiting for these. If i was a flipper for thousands i would make it my job to check the site 3-5 times a day everyday.
Eventually after missing out on a few releases, yeah, they would start checking the topps site every day, then we would have to come up with a better strategy.
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Man, you guys still don't get it! If you all stop paying ridiculous prices for sketch cards then all of your problems are solved. The flippers/scalpers are all going to go away.
And you assume everyone here is buying sketches.
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And you assume everyone here is buying sketches.
That's the problem. I'm all for buying sketches cheaper, and it might be possible to get forum members to agree on a cap price, but not only is it extremely difficult to pull off, but there are too many buyers who do come here and will buy the sketches at whatever price they can regardless of what we do.
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That's the problem. I'm all for buying sketches cheaper, and it might be possible to get forum members to agree on a cap price, but not only is it extremely difficult to pull off, but there are too many buyers who do come here and will buy the sketches at whatever price they can regardless of what we do.
Adam Smith talked about the "invisible hand" in the market place and it is alive and well in the wacky postcard sketch market. It won't go away, and will just pop up in strange ways & places as you try to eliminate or control it. IMO, a subscription idea is a good one for collectors & let the market decide the rest.
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I don't need 3 sets of postcards nor do I need 3 bonus cards. Why can't I flip the extras? I know we are discussing flipping the whole pack but what about selling your extras? Even our own forum member Plan 9 is selling a PC pack on eBay. Is he a flipper?
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I don't need 3 sets of postcards nor do I need 3 bonus cards. Why can't I flip the extras? I know we are discussing flipping the whole pack but what about selling your extras? Even our own forum member Plan 9 is selling a PC pack on eBay. Is he a flipper?
I dont think selling off what you dont need or want is fine, this isnt 1942 Germany. Price gouging can be a factor though. Plan 9 and any other member selling theirs, well as long as it doesnt say "more than 10 available"
As for porkie saying about how he wanted to get "extras" for the group, i dont think there is 1 member here who would object, as long as they went to forum members at cost.
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Aw, geez, I hope the price doesn't go up.
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I think a price change is a bad idea.
I think the way things came out on Friday was about as good as it can get, other than using the subscription idea (I keep pushing that but maybe it's too much work for Topps?). The fact that the series took as long as it did to sell out was great for the collectors.
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Aw, geez, I hope the price doesn't go up.
A price increase would be the last resort. At one time or another, all the other options have been proposed to Topps (including a subscription or increasing the size of the set). We'll just have to wait and see which idea turns out to be the remedy.
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Let's see. The problem seems to be that there isn't enough to go around. But Topps makes a subset where you have to buy 4 sets to even have a shot at completing (while only allowing people to buy 3). Seems to me if Topps put the entire set in each pack then there wouldn't be any reason to buy multiple sets unless you collect sketch cards. Seems like this would make them last a little longer if that is what people really want. (Although that is how it used to be but was changed one would assume to force people to buy more packs)
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Agree having the "buying limit" such that the chase sets are more easily obtainable (either directly or by trading) is a good idea, especially since Topps has increased the total number of sets again. This time having 4 as the buying limit would have been ideal.
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2 the people complaning about only getting a limit of 3 sets u should be happy with the 3 sets u got. I never knew these existed till last saturday afternoon thanks to finding this site off google. Unfortunately they were sold out. :'(
Not complaining, just suggesting for future sets based on chase cards.
Definitely been there with missing out. Missed out on all but the last two until after-the-fact and missed out on several even after already knowing about them.
Based on their popularity, there will definitely be more to come! :)
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FOR THOSE WHO MISSED OUT! DONT STOP TRYING THE TOPPS SITE. 1 month after PC 7 sold out i kept seeing sets for sale at TOPPS. Just keep checking
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=836.140#lastPost
check last 2 posts
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Someone has the whole set in hand and posted on ebay. These are looking great as usual.
DrDeal
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Sorry, I'm sure it's been mentioned already but there is too much info to read through. WHat's the deal with the mini postcards? I got 3 sets and they all included a Cracker Drac. Is this the only mini postcard? It is PCM4. Where are PCM1, 2, 3 etc?
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Sorry, I'm sure it's been mentioned already but there is too much info to read through. WHat's the deal with the mini postcards? I got 3 sets and they all included a Cracker Drac. Is this the only mini postcard? It is PCM4. Where are PCM1, 2, 3 etc?
PCM1,2 and 3 were the ones you get with purchase of 2 regular PC 7 sets (order 6 sets get all 3) they are still available. They are the cereal ones.
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Hmm. I don't even know if I have those. There is so much "chase" stuff in this hobby. It's just nuts. Very hard to keep up with everything. Anyway, thanks for clarifying!
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Are the PC1,2,3 still available, I didn't get any when I ordered 4 sets so I assumed they were out?
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Are the PC1,2,3 still available, I didn't get any when I ordered 4 sets so I assumed they were out?
it does list *while supplies last* for the mPC's.
I would have thought they'd remove that once they were gone, but guess not. Definitely check and verify that with them though.
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If this latest postcard release turns out to be a repeat of the hoarding/flipping trend, I'm going to recommend that Topps raise their price of future postcard sets. They may not agree with my opinion, but I think it's the only reasonable solution to the problem.
They could also increase the number of sets. There is a finite number of serious collectors who buy these things, so adding another 300 or so to the release would help insure that the actual collectors all get a set, thus decreasing the demand on ebay. It would be more work for you drawing sketches, but I personally wouldn't want to see the price go up.
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Forgive me, but I don't see the logic in raising the price. That doesn't stop scalpers. Everyone will just end up spending even more.
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Hmm. I don't even know if I have those. There is so much "chase" stuff in this hobby. It's just nuts. Very hard to keep up with everything. Anyway, thanks for clarifying!
This should help:
http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=727.0 (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=727.0)
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Ok, The online description said there were 660 sets. But the coa says there were 650 sets. So which one is it?
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Forgive me, but I don't see the logic in raising the price. That doesn't stop scalpers. Everyone will just end up spending even more.
I don't want to see the prices go up either, but honestly I think it would help. I don't think the selling prices in the secondary market would change that much and I think it would deter buyers from trying to buy as many as possible. If it was only a $5.00 difference it wouldn't matter, but sets at $60.00 would have an affect.
The downside of course is that the majority of collectors who only buy 3 sets would be hurt as a result, which would be a shame.
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I don't want to see the prices go up either, but honestly I think it would help. I don't think the selling prices in the secondary market would change that much and I think it would deter buyers from trying to buy as many as possible. If it was only a $5.00 difference it wouldn't matter, but sets at $60.00 would have an affect.
The downside of course is that the majority of collectors who only buy 3 sets would be hurt as a result, which would be a shame.
I think selling price also goes with a perceived value of the contents. If you sold them for a $100 a set you would see even crazier eBay selling prices. If you reduce the number of sets and raise the price then it really throws prices out of wack on the secondary market. Now if you raise the price dramatically and produce more sets, such as 1000 sets, then people will view this as Topps greed.
It all depends on how you market it. Topps has a good thing going here and I highly doubt they want to change the formula. If they raise the price 5 or 10 bucks they need to show a value for the cost adjustment such as include all the bio cards.
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I think selling price also goes with a perceived value of the contents. If you sold them for a $100 a set you would see even crazier eBay selling prices.
I disagree. I think the perceived value has already been set based on the prior series, and I don't see buyers paying more than what they have been paying with the last several sets just because the price went up. I could actually see it having the opposite affect as some collectors would get discouraged and not but any of them, making the demand go down. Hopefully we won't find out who is right!
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Let's see. The problem seems to be that there isn't enough to go around. But Topps makes a subset where you have to buy 4 sets to even have a shot at completing (while only allowing people to buy 3). Seems to me if Topps put the entire set in each pack then there wouldn't be any reason to buy multiple sets unless you collect sketch cards. Seems like this would make them last a little longer if that is what people really want. (Although that is how it used to be but was changed one would assume to force people to buy more packs)
This makes great sense to me! If Topps truly cares about it's customers they should do what is best for them and not produce a set of Bio cards that has 8 cards and then limit the number of sets you can purchase to just 3 giving only 6 (if you don't get dupes) out of the 8 needed for a complete set. This automatically forces the collector to buy those cards on the secondary market which just puts extra money into the pockets of the flippers (some of which are on here!). I have an issue with both having a limit of the number of sets you can purchase that is out of whack for the cards that MAY be inside for chase sets and the members on the Forum that complain about the "flippers" but buy 3 sets and sell 1 or 2 of them. Doing this they end up with their set being 100% ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! Good job you hipocrites!!!
I accidentally "skirted" the limit of 3 sets per household by trying to purchase my 3 sets as soon as they went live and then getting an error message. So I tried again with the same exact info, credit card number, etc. and got a different error message. Being the third time is a charm I tried one more time and STILL got an error message. At this point I was so frustrated that I might miss out on my 3 sets that I used my PayPal account to pay instead which took money from my checking because I did not have enough in PayPal and that time it worked. Then I checked the credit card balance to see if I did have enough for the 3 sets and low and behold the exact amount for 3 sets shipped ($136.32) was not available on my credit card so I figured that I had 2 orders but I did not get a confirmation number for that possible purchase so I figured things were okay and I would get the 3 sets that I paid for through PayPal. WRONG, it turns out that Topps canceled my legit order and my errors mistake purchase that was not intentional. So now I am getting ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!! Thanks Topps!!!
I bet though that the F@?#$*g flippers got their sets though!! I am almost fed up enough to leave this hobby and just buy sets like these and other L.E. sets and flip them myself. I can easily double or triple my investment.
Hopefully Neil and Topps can work out something that we get a code that is unique to each of us and that is the only way you can buy any sets is by typing in the unique code. This would curtail some of the flippers actions and maybe allow the limit to atleast go back to 5 sets per household instead of the ridiculous 3 sets they have gone to lately. This way if a flipper gives his/her code out to everyone they know to purchase sets for him/her Topps will know exactly who the flippers are and can try to ban them from further purchases. Maybe use the computer's unique IP address and block any and all purchases from that IP address. The other things that I like is to have all of the "chase" cards that are spread over a number of packs all be put in each pack like they used to be and even if the price had to be raised to $60.00 or more us completist would have all of the chase cards and 3 sketch cards for our collections. This would help to also take a bite out of the flippers profits. I don't think that raising the price and the number of sets to be sold is wise either, especially if all the sets contain the same cards except for the unique sketch cards that are thrown in and the reason why these have been such a hot commodity. I think raising the price and including all of the "chase" cards in each set and LOWERING the total number of sets back down to 500 would be the better way to go.
Just some thoughts..........
Is there any list being started for those who missed out even though they stayed on the computer for almost 1 1/2 hours before they went live because they were told the wrong time zone and Topps made them "live" later than the top of the hour? If so, I would like to be put on the list.
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Let's see. The problem seems to be that there isn't enough to go around. But Topps makes a subset where you have to buy 4 sets to even have a shot at completing (while only allowing people to buy 3). Seems to me if Topps put the entire set in each pack then there wouldn't be any reason to buy multiple sets unless you collect sketch cards. Seems like this would make them last a little longer if that is what people really want. (Although that is how it used to be but was changed one would assume to force people to buy more packs)
This makes great sense to me! If Topps truly cares about it's customers they should do what is best for them and not produce a set of Bio cards that has 8 cards and then limit the number of sets you can purchase to just 3 giving only 6 (if you don't get dupes) out of the 8 needed for a complete set. This automatically forces the collector to buy those cards on the secondary market which just puts extra money into the pockets of the flippers (some of which are on here!). I have an issue with both having a limit of the number of sets you can purchase that is out of whack for the cards that MAY be inside for chase sets and the members on the Forum that complain about the "flippers" but buy 3 sets and sell 1 or 2 of them. Doing this they end up with their set being 100% ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! Good job you hipocrites!!!
I accidentally "skirted" the limit of 3 sets per household by trying to purchase my 3 sets as soon as they went live and then getting an error message. So I tried again with the same exact info, credit card number, etc. and got a different error message. Being the third time is a charm I tried one more time and STILL got an error message. At this point I was so frustrated that I might miss out on my 3 sets that I used my PayPal account to pay instead which took money from my checking because I did not have enough in PayPal and that time it worked. Then I checked the credit card balance to see if I did have enough for the 3 sets and low and behold the exact amount for 3 sets shipped ($136.32) was not available on my credit card so I figured that I had 2 orders but I did not get a confirmation number for that possible purchase so I figured things were okay and I would get the 3 sets that I paid for through PayPal. WRONG, it turns out that Topps canceled my legit order and my errors mistake purchase that was not intentional. So now I am getting ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!! Thanks Topps!!!
I bet though that the F@?#$*g flippers got their sets though!! I am almost fed up enough to leave this hobby and just buy sets like these and other L.E. sets and flip them myself. I can easily double or triple my investment.
Hopefully Neil and Topps can work out something that we get a code that is unique to each of us and that is the only way you can buy any sets is by typing in the unique code. This would curtail some of the flippers actions and maybe allow the limit to atleast go back to 5 sets per household instead of the ridiculous 3 sets they have gone to lately. This way if a flipper gives his/her code out to everyone they know to purchase sets for him/her Topps will know exactly who the flippers are and can try to ban them from further purchases. Maybe use the computer's unique IP address and block any and all purchases from that IP address. The other things that I like is to have all of the "chase" cards that are spread over a number of packs all be put in each pack like they used to be and even if the price had to be raised to $60.00 or more us completist would have all of the chase cards and 3 sketch cards for our collections. This would help to also take a bite out of the flippers profits. I don't think that raising the price and the number of sets to be sold is wise either, especially if all the sets contain the same cards except for the unique sketch cards that are thrown in and the reason why these have been such a hot commodity. I think raising the price and including all of the "chase" cards in each set and LOWERING the total number of sets back down to 500 would be the better way to go.
Just some thoughts..........
Is there any list being started for those who missed out even though they stayed on the computer for almost 1 1/2 hours before they went live because they were told the wrong time zone and Topps made them "live" later than the top of the hour? If so, I would like to be put on the list.
Oh yeah I almost forgot! #Occupy Wallstreet!!!!
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The other things that I like is to have all of the "chase" cards that are spread over a number of packs all be put in each pack like they used to be and even if the price had to be raised to $60.00 or more us completist would have all of the chase cards and 3 sketch cards for our collections. This would help to also take a bite out of the flippers profits. I don't think that raising the price and the number of sets to be sold is wise either, especially if all the sets contain the same cards except for the unique sketch cards that are thrown in and the reason why these have been such a hot commodity. I think raising the price and including all of the "chase" cards in each set and LOWERING the total number of sets back down to 500 would be the better way to go.
Something that Joe Simko did with his recent CEREAL KILLERS set was to offer a "master set" of all base and chase items, box, wrappers and sketch. It was at a premium price but I think I fall into the same category as others... a completist who often doesn't have the time or opportunity to do a bunch of trading. I enjoy trading but sometimes I would rather pay the price and get a readily complete set.
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Something that Joe Simko did with his recent CEREAL KILLERS set was to offer a "master set" of all base and chase items, box, wrappers and sketch. It was at a premium price but I think I fall into the same category as others... a completist who often doesn't have the time or opportunity to do a bunch of trading. I enjoy trading but sometimes I would rather pay the price and get a readily complete set.
We've discussed the possibility of a master set as a future release, but I don't know when or if it's going to actually happen.
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Is there any list being started for those who missed out even though they stayed on the computer for almost 1 1/2 hours before they went live because they were told the wrong time zone and Topps made them "live" later than the top of the hour? If so, I would like to be put on the list.
I'll check with Topps today and post any news about a possible waiting list in a separate thread.
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This makes great sense to me! If Topps truly cares about it's customers they should do what is best for them and not produce a set of Bio cards that has 8 cards and then limit the number of sets you can purchase to just 3 giving only 6 (if you don't get dupes) out of the 8 needed for a complete set. This automatically forces the collector to buy those cards on the secondary market which just puts extra money into the pockets of the flippers (some of which are on here!). I have an issue with both having a limit of the number of sets you can purchase that is out of whack for the cards that MAY be inside for chase sets and the members on the Forum that complain about the "flippers" but buy 3 sets and sell 1 or 2 of them. Doing this they end up with their set being 100% ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! Good job you hipocrites!!!
I accidentally "skirted" the limit of 3 sets per household by trying to purchase my 3 sets as soon as they went live and then getting an error message. So I tried again with the same exact info, credit card number, etc. and got a different error message. Being the third time is a charm I tried one more time and STILL got an error message. At this point I was so frustrated that I might miss out on my 3 sets that I used my PayPal account to pay instead which took money from my checking because I did not have enough in PayPal and that time it worked. Then I checked the credit card balance to see if I did have enough for the 3 sets and low and behold the exact amount for 3 sets shipped ($136.32) was not available on my credit card so I figured that I had 2 orders but I did not get a confirmation number for that possible purchase so I figured things were okay and I would get the 3 sets that I paid for through PayPal. WRONG, it turns out that Topps canceled my legit order and my errors mistake purchase that was not intentional. So now I am getting ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!! Thanks Topps!!!
I bet though that the F@?#$*g flippers got their sets though!! I am almost fed up enough to leave this hobby and just buy sets like these and other L.E. sets and flip them myself. I can easily double or triple my investment.
Hopefully Neil and Topps can work out something that we get a code that is unique to each of us and that is the only way you can buy any sets is by typing in the unique code. This would curtail some of the flippers actions and maybe allow the limit to atleast go back to 5 sets per household instead of the ridiculous 3 sets they have gone to lately. This way if a flipper gives his/her code out to everyone they know to purchase sets for him/her Topps will know exactly who the flippers are and can try to ban them from further purchases. Maybe use the computer's unique IP address and block any and all purchases from that IP address. The other things that I like is to have all of the "chase" cards that are spread over a number of packs all be put in each pack like they used to be and even if the price had to be raised to $60.00 or more us completist would have all of the chase cards and 3 sketch cards for our collections. This would help to also take a bite out of the flippers profits. I don't think that raising the price and the number of sets to be sold is wise either, especially if all the sets contain the same cards except for the unique sketch cards that are thrown in and the reason why these have been such a hot commodity. I think raising the price and including all of the "chase" cards in each set and LOWERING the total number of sets back down to 500 would be the better way to go.
Just some thoughts..........
Is there any list being started for those who missed out even though they stayed on the computer for almost 1 1/2 hours before they went live because they were told the wrong time zone and Topps made them "live" later than the top of the hour? If so, I would like to be put on the list.
That sucks that this happened to anyone here. I love the postcard sets and they are great for the hobby (or were), but a story like this makes me think that Topps either HAS to go to the idea of each person here being given a code, or just cancelling the postcard series altogether. It's absolutely totally unfair for people to be missing out like this meanwhile ralph mouth or whatever his name is and the other guy are getting 35 to 75 sets each. Well maybe they didn't this time but with 660 sets selling in 12 hours I think they likely did (or even more likely asshole B has networked up to 50 sets and asshole A up to 100 or more, I mean why stop at 75 if you can get 100?)
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What topps should do is make hpc, or pc sets with no sketch card. I mean the sketch cards are cool and all but thats y the sets sell so fast. Another way would be to mass produce the sets. On a side note the old post card sets that topps has listed would any 1 recomend buying them or no?
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Is there any list being started for those who missed out even though they stayed on the computer for almost 1 1/2 hours before they went live because they were told the wrong time zone and Topps made them "live" later than the top of the hour? If so, I would like to be put on the list.
Oh yeah I almost forgot! #Occupy Wallstreet!!!!
One of the benefits in being a member of a community, such as this one, is the awareness and communication. Most people who checked in Friday evening were made aware of the "possible" release and then the official confirmation.
What I'd like to see on this board is perhaps one section that is basically private and off limits to non-members. Only members can enter the section and things like this release could be discussed and maybe that way we could start to immunize these sets from scalpers.
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What topps should do is make hpc, or pc sets with no sketch card. I mean the sketch cards are cool and all but thats y the sets sell so fast. Another way would be to mass produce the sets. On a side note the old post card sets that topps has listed would any 1 recomend buying them or no?
I have 1 or more of each PC set. If thats what your into they are very very cool! You still get a bonus card with a few of the sets.
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One of the benefits in being a member of a community, such as this one, is the awareness and communication. Most people who checked in Friday evening were made aware of the "possible" release and then the official confirmation.
What I'd like to see on this board is perhaps one section that is basically private and off limits to non-members. Only members can enter the section and things like this release could be discussed and maybe that way we could start to immunize these sets from scalpers.
I can setup any category as private and only have select members. The problem is that Neil and Topps want this to be successful so they want everyone to know about it. The Friday night event was really crazy. If I hadnt gone to my computer to find a file and didn't take a glance at the forum I would have totally missed out on it and I run the forum! That's how scary the Friday night event was. Quite a few missed out on it because Neil was out of pocket and didn't send an email to everyone until later that evening. Friday nights are tough because people are done working and probably don't do to much with computers until the next day. You just want to unwind from work and see your family and friends.
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I can setup any category as private and only have select members. The problem is that Neil and Topps want this to be successful so they want everyone to know about it. The Friday night event was really crazy. If I hadnt gone to my computer to find a file and didn't take a glance at the forum I would have totally missed out on it and I run the forum! That's how scary the Friday night event was. Quite a few missed out on it because Neil was out of pocket and didn't send an email to everyone until later that evening. Friday nights are tough because people are done working and probably don't do to much with computers until the next day. You just want to unwind from work and see your family and friends.
That's crazy talk... Your iPad needs loving attention at least every 12 hours. Kids can go for days unattended. ;)
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That's crazy talk... Your iPad needs loving attention at least every 12 hours. Kids can go for days unattended. ;)
I know! We actually had some friends over for a pizza party. I wouldn't have logged in until later that night and could have easily missed it.
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I can setup any category as private and only have select members. The problem is that Neil and Topps want this to be successful so they want everyone to know about it. The Friday night event was really crazy. If I hadnt gone to my computer to find a file and didn't take a glance at the forum I would have totally missed out on it and I run the forum! That's how scary the Friday night event was. Quite a few missed out on it because Neil was out of pocket and didn't send an email to everyone until later that evening. Friday nights are tough because people are done working and probably don't do to much with computers until the next day. You just want to unwind from work and see your family and friends.
The set will sell out either way so I don't see why we couldn't do that. I like the idea a lot of having a private category as long as it doesnt show how many posts are being made to non members of that category (that could be deemed a tip off)..
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The set will sell out either way so I don't see why we couldn't do that. I like the idea a lot of having a private category as long as it doesnt show how many posts are being made to non members of that category (that could be deemed a tip off)..
It's like the forum is setup now. If you are a guest you can only view Wacky Packages related stuff you can't see the non wacky related info. I would have to dig a bit deeper into this as I would have to give users different permissions.
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TO THOSE WHO MISSED OUT! They had a few sets up for sale today, KEEP CHECKING THE SITE!!!!!!
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It's like the forum is setup now. If you are a guest you can only view Wacky Packages related stuff you can't see the non wacky related info. I would have to dig a bit deeper into this as I would have to give users different permissions.
That could be thought of as unfair, Most of you don't know me but I have purchased cards from a lot of you and made many a trade with other members. I collect for me, not to resell. Would I have access to the special code even though I am not in the top circle of people?
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That could be thought of as unfair, Most of you don't know me but I have purchased cards from a lot of you and made many a trade with other members. I collect for me, not to resell. Would I have access to the special code even though I am not in the top circle of people?
I totally agree. People have thrown around the 'subscription plan' and the 'special code plan', but these are both potentially far, far worse situations than what we have now.
Taken to the extreme, which actually is what would be the reality, having a 1-per-household would make it incredibly tough for the collector collect if they need more than 1 to complete a set and much easier for the scalpers to scalp as they would have a large network of households that could buy.
In either 'plan', who decides who can be on the 'list'? who would decide that someone is a collector vs scalper?
will the entire run be sold only to subscribers? and if you limit the subscribers to say half the sets, you can guarantee that at least 1 true collector will be left out in the cold.
I see zero upside to either of these plans.
I think what happened Friday night with HPC2011 went better than the last several PC sets.
Go with a night release - preferably Sunday-Thursday, and have a robust call/text tree in place to contact everyone.
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The problem is that Neil and Topps want this to be successful so they want everyone to know about it.
Topps wants the sets to sell but I'm willing to bet they would prefer more people to have these sets then not. More people having them should equal more word of mouth. When the day is over you want the right people to get these sets and that means those who will keep Wacky Packages alive and well. Someone who buys with the purpose of re-selling won't do a thing for this line and when it gets difficult to land these sets, they will move onto something else more easily available.
If people are truly fed up with scalpers and the like, combating it has to start somewhere and if you say there are areas on this board where non-members are unable to view, maybe that's where some of the sales dates need to be discussed. That way members can have a dialogue without worrying if scalpers are being a fly on the wall. There doesn't have to be an inner circle. Board participation should be enough.
Do we want to act like Geraldo Rivera during the second gulf war when he was telling the world where exactly he was in Iraq while covering the military?
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It's like the forum is setup now. If you are a guest you can only view Wacky Packages related stuff you can't see the non wacky related info. I would have to dig a bit deeper into this as I would have to give users different permissions.
Damn I am "user". Wacky forum addict. Is there a slang term for this?
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TO THOSE WHO MISSED OUT! They had a few sets up for sale today, KEEP CHECKING THE SITE!!!!!!
Damn! Missed it again. I had to work late. Arrgghh!
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That could be thought of as unfair, Most of you don't know me but I have purchased cards from a lot of you and made many a trade with other members. I collect for me, not to resell. Would I have access to the special code even though I am not in the top circle of people?
Don't get too excited about this. It was just a suggestion and to answer everyone's question - yes, it's possible to do.
It wouldn't matter anyway because Neil generally sends an email to all buyers to notify them. The anomaly to this was last Friday when he was detained from sending the email. A days notice would be much better or even a couple days. This news came fast and furious on Friday and if you didnt check the forum you would have missed it. It even took like 12 hours to sell out so there was a lot of time to get in. Again, Friday night 2 hour notice is not a good strategy but on the other hand it took them a lot longer to sell out.
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Topps wants the sets to sell but I'm willing to bet they would prefer more people to have these sets then not. More people having them should equal more word of mouth. When the day is over you want the right people to get these sets and that means those who will keep Wacky Packages alive and well. Someone who buys with the purpose of re-selling won't do a thing for this line and when it gets difficult to land these sets, they will move onto something else more easily available.
If people are truly fed up with scalpers and the like, combating it has to start somewhere and if you say there are areas on this board where non-members are unable to view, maybe that's where some of the sales dates need to be discussed. That way members can have a dialogue without worrying if scalpers are being a fly on the wall. There doesn't have to be an inner circle. Board participation should be enough.
Do we want to act like Geraldo Rivera during the second gulf war when he was telling the world where exactly he was in Iraq while covering the military?
These have yet to have any trouble selling out therefore Topps goal has been met. We are somewhat selfishly only looking at this from our point of view. From topps point of view, all is fine so if aint broken, don't fix it. No matter what system is put in place, someone will claim they missed out. Topps shouldn;t screw around with this to the point that they risk not getting a sell out.
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The anomaly to this was last Friday when he was detained from sending the email. A days notice would be much better or even a couple days.
don't forget - we *did* get a days notice.
the answer to the riddle about the release date posted on Thursday was, you got it, Friday
we all knew it, but I don't think everyone really believed it would be the next day.
Me? I was checking toppsonline every hour all day long on Friday.
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don't forget - we *did* get a days notice.
the answer to the riddle about the release date posted on Thursday was, you got it, Friday
we all knew it, but I don't think everyone really believed it would be the next day.
Me? I was checking toppsonline every hour all day long on Friday.
True but since last years cards were sold on the 20th I thought it would be next Friday. I was also hoping Neil would come on and say "correct! Tomorrows the day!"
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Damn I am "user". Wacky forum addict. Is there a slang term for this?
how about wack head
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These have yet to have any trouble selling out therefore Topps goal has been met. We are somewhat selfishly only looking at this from our point of view. From topps point of view, all is fine so if aint broken, don't fix it. No matter what system is put in place, someone will claim they missed out. Topps shouldn;t screw around with this to the point that they risk not getting a sell out.
I agree. Plus this. Let's stop trying to define who is a "true collector". This place starts sounding like a damn cult. Or some snobby club that wants to exclude collectors who don't care about the forum. If any of you want more access to collecting the postcards then instead of forming the Wacky Gestapo, petition Topps to make more. Stop obsessing over what other buyers do with their sets. It's none of your business. When you make it your business this is what you sound like; *sniff*...life...isn't...*sniff*...fair...*sniff whimper*...
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I agree. Plus this. Let's stop trying to define who is a "true collector". This place starts sounding like a damn cult. Or some snobby club that wants to exclude collectors who don't care about the forum. If any of you want more access to collecting the postcards then instead of forming the Wacky Gestapo, petition Topps to make more. Stop obsessing over what other buyers do with their sets. It's none of your business. When you make it your business this is what you sound like; *sniff*...life...isn't...*sniff*...fair...*sniff whimper*...
The "true collectors" here can't even be bothered to discuss the set itself, it is all about a strange compulsion about sketches, many of which are very average. When I did have the sketch compulsion, at least I was still looking at the sets themselves. Post card sized wackys are awesome as they don't seem as cluttered as many of the ANS wackys. Discussing the common-ness and potentially price direction of titles on day 1 of receiving the wackys means these are nothing more than commodities that soon will be out of sight, out of mind when the next set comes along to feed the compulsion. That doesn't sound like collecting to me.
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I totally agree. People have thrown around the 'subscription plan' and the 'special code plan', but these are both potentially far, far worse situations than what we have now.
Taken to the extreme, which actually is what would be the reality, having a 1-per-household would make it incredibly tough for the collector collect if they need more than 1 to complete a set and much easier for the scalpers to scalp as they would have a large network of households that could buy.
In either 'plan', who decides who can be on the 'list'? who would decide that someone is a collector vs scalper?
will the entire run be sold only to subscribers? and if you limit the subscribers to say half the sets, you can guarantee that at least 1 true collector will be left out in the cold.
I see zero upside to either of these plans.
I think what happened Friday night with HPC2011 went better than the last several PC sets.
Go with a night release - preferably Sunday-Thursday, and have a robust call/text tree in place to contact everyone.
You are making the subscription plan more complicated than it has to be. It's super simple. It doesn't even have to be a "subscription" thing. A really easy way to accomplish this, is to add an item to ShopTopps, call it "PC8 Pre-Sale - Limit one per household". Make it known that there will be more available later, but this is a pre-paid pre-order. Can be a month or two in advance. Doesn't matter. People then go to ShopTopps, purchase their one set.
-Guarantees everyone gets one set. Collectors, scalpers, scalper's mothers, clones, doesn't matter.
-IMPORTANT: Pre-Sale is not the only way to get the sets. It's sole purpose is so that no one misses out. Period.
Topps then knows how many people have *paid for* their one set, say it's 500, so then they make a run of say 900 (500 + 400 for example), with the 400 being for regular release on ShopTopps. They can then release those 400 or so any way they want. Late night sale, one day notice, whatever. They can limit them however many they want, so the scalpers can go nuts. Who cares, because everyone already is guaranteed their one set, paid for in advance.
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You are making the subscription plan more complicated than it has to be. It's super simple. It doesn't even have to be a "subscription" thing. A really easy way to accomplish this, is to add an item to ShopTopps, call it "PC8 Pre-Sale - Limit one per household". Make it known that there will be more available later, but this is a pre-paid pre-order. Can be a month or two in advance. Doesn't matter. People then go to ShopTopps, purchase their one set.
-Guarantees everyone gets one set. Collectors, scalpers, scalper's mothers, clones, doesn't matter.
-IMPORTANT: Pre-Sale is not the only way to get the sets. It's sole purpose is so that no one misses out. Period.
Topps then knows how many people have *paid for* their one set, say it's 500, so then they make a run of say 900 (500 + 400 for example), with the 400 being for regular release on ShopTopps. They can then release those 400 or so any way they want. Late night sale, one day notice, whatever. They can limit them however many they want, so the scalpers can go nuts. Who cares, because everyone already is guaranteed their one set, paid for in advance.
Clones - LOL ! :great: Sounds good to me, but I get the feeling that it probably will just stay the way it is like someone had mentioned earlier in the thread.
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You are making the subscription plan more complicated than it has to be. It's super simple. It doesn't even have to be a "subscription" thing. A really easy way to accomplish this, is to add an item to ShopTopps, call it "PC8 Pre-Sale - Limit one per household". Make it known that there will be more available later, but this is a pre-paid pre-order. Can be a month or two in advance. Doesn't matter. People then go to ShopTopps, purchase their one set.
-Guarantees everyone gets one set. Collectors, scalpers, scalper's mothers, clones, doesn't matter.
-IMPORTANT: Pre-Sale is not the only way to get the sets. It's sole purpose is so that no one misses out. Period.
Topps then knows how many people have *paid for* their one set, say it's 500, so then they make a run of say 900 (500 + 400 for example), with the 400 being for regular release on ShopTopps. They can then release those 400 or so any way they want. Late night sale, one day notice, whatever. They can limit them however many they want, so the scalpers can go nuts. Who cares, because everyone already is guaranteed their one set, paid for in advance.
I like your idea a lot. We don't need no cloned scalpers though!
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I agree. Plus this. Let's stop trying to define who is a "true collector". This place starts sounding like a damn cult. Or some snobby club that wants to exclude collectors who don't care about the forum. If any of you want more access to collecting the postcards then instead of forming the Wacky Gestapo, petition Topps to make more. Stop obsessing over what other buyers do with their sets. It's none of your business. When you make it your business this is what you sound like; *sniff*...life...isn't...*sniff*...fair...*sniff whimper*...
This is so true but it's the people that missed out that are bitter and then start pointing fingers. Another issue is the bio cards. When you can only get 3 sets but you need 4 to complete the bios people get pissed they can't buy more than 3 sets so then again they're upset. There really isn't a good way to please everyone.
The only solution would be if people quit paying high prices for the sketch cards. When I say high I mean over $100. If some of the tougher ones sold around that price but most sold for around $30 we would see the flippers disappear pretty quickly.
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The only solution would be if people quit paying high prices for the sketch cards. When I say high I mean over $100. If some of the tougher ones sold around that price but most sold for around $30 we would see the flippers disappear pretty quickly.
the idea of a sketch being a "tougher one" still cracks me up. They are all one of a kind. 1 of 1.
but I know what you mean.
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You are making the subscription plan more complicated than it has to be. It's super simple. It doesn't even have to be a "subscription" thing. A really easy way to accomplish this, is to add an item to ShopTopps, call it "PC8 Pre-Sale - Limit one per household". Make it known that there will be more available later, but this is a pre-paid pre-order. Can be a month or two in advance. Doesn't matter. People then go to ShopTopps, purchase their one set.
-Guarantees everyone gets one set. Collectors, scalpers, scalper's mothers, clones, doesn't matter.
-IMPORTANT: Pre-Sale is not the only way to get the sets. It's sole purpose is so that no one misses out. Period.
Topps then knows how many people have *paid for* their one set, say it's 500, so then they make a run of say 900 (500 + 400 for example), with the 400 being for regular release on ShopTopps. They can then release those 400 or so any way they want. Late night sale, one day notice, whatever. They can limit them however many they want, so the scalpers can go nuts. Who cares, because everyone already is guaranteed their one set, paid for in advance.
I really like that idea, but it would seem to give the flippers more time to mobilize and pre-order dozens and dozens of sets.
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I really like that idea, but it would seem to give the flippers more time to mobilize and pre-order dozens and dozens of sets.
Doesn't matter. They can pre-order 1000, and Topps can then print a run of 1000 + 400. We all have our guaranteed one set (no Wacky Collector left behind) which means less demand for scalpers. Win win.
Topps wins out BIG time, with: more profits from higher sales volume; better idea of how large a run to make ahead of time; seed money from the pre-sale; they still do the Friday night sale for the 400.
This might also help bring sketch prices down, if that is still an issue. Bio cards are another story. If each PC set includes a complete bio card set, the price of the PC sets increases. I am willing to pay a little more for that. The bio cards are more than a novelty to me - I love having mini version of the giant postcards.
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I really like that idea, but it would seem to give the flippers more time to mobilize and pre-order dozens and dozens of sets.
I think this kind of pre-sale only half addresses the issue, but risks causing over production. And sketch production numbers are not something you can easily futz with. Also, with collectables, controlling print runs is important to long term health. Printing all the market will bear seems ill-advised
Get rid of the bio cards also solves some of these issues too, but people like them, right?
The Mattel "Matty Collector" subscription model appears to be a successful one, though they have a larger base of collectors and it may not be applicable to our hobby. That said, I think a serious look at something that works well already can't be a bad idea. Anyone a Mattel collector?
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I have an Extra complete 2011 wacky halloween postcard set with the Toothie sketch (I got two of these) (would include the (6) postcards the bio cards the special toothie card and a toothie sketch the COA and the wrapper, everything that came from TOPPS). I missed out on the 2010 Wacky Halloween Postcard release so I will trade my 2011 Halloween set for a 2010 set must be a complete 2010 for a complete 2011
PM me if interested thanks Joe
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Doesn't matter. They can pre-order 1000, and Topps can then print a run of 1000 + 400. We all have our guaranteed one set (no Wacky Collector left behind) which means less demand for scalpers. Win win.
Topps wins out BIG time, with: more profits from higher sales volume; better idea of how large a run to make ahead of time; seed money from the pre-sale; they still do the Friday night sale for the 400.
This might also help bring sketch prices down, if that is still an issue. Bio cards are another story. If each PC set includes a complete bio card set, the price of the PC sets increases. I am willing to pay a little more for that. The bio cards are more than a novelty to me - I love having mini version of the giant postcards.
I see where your going and the price dulsion would bring down overall prices and weed out flippers...including sketch prices..but eveyone would be served...depending on how big Topps is willing to make the run and the underlying costs associated with an increased production...
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I see where your going and the price dulsion would bring down overall prices and weed out flippers...including sketch prices..but eveyone would be served...depending on how big Topps is willing to make the run and the underlying costs associated with an increased production...
There's also the issue of doing 1,000 - 1,400 sketch cards. That would add a lot more coordinating and time from where they are now. I could see the # of sketches required by the artists getting to a point where they are forced to zip through to meet the deadlines, and quality would suffer as a result.
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There's also the issue of doing 1,000 - 1,400 sketch cards. That would add a lot more coordinating and time from where they are now. I could see the # of sketches required by the artists getting to a point where they are forced to zip through to meet the deadlines, and quality would suffer as a result.
also a great point...I was think that besides the special Forum only communication as seemed to happen Friday there should be 3 Wacky Pack questions to answer before you could order...that would weed out the new flippers... >( >(
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also a great point...I was think that besides the special Forum only communication as seemed to happen Friday there should be 3 Wacky Pack questions to answer before you could order...that would weed out the new flippers... >( >(
They should stick to the mathmatical questions. :D
No, like, Name 3 die cut cards from the 60's. Name a "pulled from production" card of the 70's. Name a magazine card from the original 11th Series.
Those would be cool questions. Here's a fun idea: You could make it so it only Unlocks the release date info. and ordering after those questions are answered. Then the true collectors could get in fast on the pre-sale ordering.
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How about the upcoming release announcement email/forum member list being such that to be on it you have to be vouched for by a senior member of the forum (someone who is established as a collector, etc.).
This would generate a list of people who aren't mega-flippers (the one or two known offenders we are trying to circumvent -- please no replies trying to reinterpret this as "anyone selling anything at any time" -- thanks!)
This list would be manageable by Neil (who is awesome for doing all that he has been doing!) and could be amended as time goes by again being "vouched for". If there is ever a leak, we can review and correct.
Thus a slight modification to the current system and nothing Topps has to change.
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How about the upcoming release announcement email/forum member list being such that to be on it you have to be vouched for by a senior member of the forum (someone who is established as a collector, etc.).
This would generate a list of people who aren't mega-flippers (the one or two known offenders we are trying to circumvent -- please no replies trying to reinterpret this as "anyone selling anything at any time" -- thanks!)
This list would be manageable by Neil (who is awesome for doing all that he has been doing!) and could be amended as time goes by again being "vouched for". If there is ever a leak, we can review and correct.
Thus a slight modification to the current system and nothing Topps has to change.
Have we seen scalpers/flippers yet? I've seen maybe 1 or 2 guys with 6 for sale but no mega flipper yet.
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also a great point...I was think that besides the special Forum only communication as seemed to happen Friday there should be 3 Wacky Pack questions to answer before you could order...that would weed out the new flippers... >( >(
Elitist.
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How about the upcoming release announcement email/forum member list being such that to be on it you have to be vouched for by a senior member of the forum (someone who is established as a collector, etc.).
This would generate a list of people who aren't mega-flippers (the one or two known offenders we are trying to circumvent -- please no replies trying to reinterpret this as "anyone selling anything at any time" -- thanks!)
This list would be manageable by Neil (who is awesome for doing all that he has been doing!) and could be amended as time goes by again being "vouched for". If there is ever a leak, we can review and correct.
Thus a slight modification to the current system and nothing Topps has to change.
UM no bad Idea. I don't think that there are any "senior members" and it would go back to "who you know" Topps isn't going to change anything. Lets face it why should they. They have a products that sells out in one day. creates buzz for other products. and there is a healthy secondary market for the product. From Topps point of view nothing is broken. They will just continue to issue sets @40 per pop and pay the artist and printing cost and keep the profits. If ever the limited edition set ever fails to sell out. Then TOPPS will look in some adjustments
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They should stick to the mathmatical questions. :D
No, like, Name 3 die cut cards from the 60's. Name a "pulled from production" card of the 70's. Name a magazine card from the original 11th Series.
Those would be cool questions. Here's a fun idea: You could make it so it only Unlocks the release date info. and ordering after those questions are answered. Then the true collectors could get in fast on the pre-sale ordering.
Wacky postcards weren't made for the true believer/true follower/true collector. If they were then they should be called "Wacky Elitist Postcards".
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How about the upcoming release announcement email/forum member list being such that to be on it you have to be vouched for by a senior member of the forum (someone who is established as a collector, etc.).
This would generate a list of people who aren't mega-flippers (the one or two known offenders we are trying to circumvent -- please no replies trying to reinterpret this as "anyone selling anything at any time" -- thanks!)
This list would be manageable by Neil (who is awesome for doing all that he has been doing!) and could be amended as time goes by again being "vouched for". If there is ever a leak, we can review and correct.
Thus a slight modification to the current system and nothing Topps has to change.
Well, first, I've been a forum member for a few years, and I couldn't answe all of those questions. I'll bet scalpers could figure them out, though...
What about the collectors who aren't a part of the community? Do they get left behind? I believe that every solution offered so far, ends up causing some of the other problems we often complain about.
Anything that increases the production run seems like a bad idea to me. Though, I've long felt that not having an unlimited version set for the Halloween releases was odd, when the standard series all received them.
Before the sketches expanded, this wasn't a problem... But the sets didnt sell as well, then, either, did they?
Again, I'd suggest looking at working models out there, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.
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UM no bad Idea. I don't think that there are any "senior members" and it would go back to "who you know" Topps isn't going to change anything. Lets face it why should they. They have a products that sells out in one day. creates buzz for other products. and there is a healthy secondary market for the product. From Topps point of view nothing is broken. They will just continue to issue sets @40 per pop and pay the artist and printing cost and keep the profits. If ever the limited edition set ever fails to sell out. Then TOPPS will look in some adjustments
I agree with this. It's not perfect, but it is successful in more ways than not.
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How about the upcoming release announcement email/forum member list being such that to be on it you have to be vouched for by a senior member of the forum (someone who is established as a collector, etc.).
This would generate a list of people who aren't mega-flippers (the one or two known offenders we are trying to circumvent -- please no replies trying to reinterpret this as "anyone selling anything at any time" -- thanks!)
This list would be manageable by Neil (who is awesome for doing all that he has been doing!) and could be amended as time goes by again being "vouched for". If there is ever a leak, we can review and correct.
Thus a slight modification to the current system and nothing Topps has to change.
Some brand anyone that sells any set anytime as a flipper but I realize you're not one of them. But you are sounding like an elitist who thinks Wacky products are made for their exclusive club and not for the masses.
I would like to know if there is any proof at all that anyone has been able to buy 50-100 sets since the purchasing limits were imposed.
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Alamo Draft House / MondoTees movie posters experience similar things....they immediately triple in value on eBay, they day they go on sale. But they aren't changing what they are doing....
And the posters rock...frankly. Check out the archive pages...
http://www.mondotees.com/
Edit: most recently they brought Drew Struzan out of retirement for this gem. Sold out in minutes...
http://www.mondoarchive.com/poster/frankenstein/
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UM no bad Idea. I don't think that there are any "senior members" and it would go back to "who you know" Topps isn't going to change anything. Lets face it why should they. They have a products that sells out in one day. creates buzz for other products. and there is a healthy secondary market for the product. From Topps point of view nothing is broken. They will just continue to issue sets @40 per pop and pay the artist and printing cost and keep the profits. If ever the limited edition set ever fails to sell out. Then TOPPS will look in some adjustments
BINGO, you nailed it!
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I'm one of the early promoters of some kind of subscription to guarantee collectors everywhere the opportunity to purchase limited edition Wacky sets. That's been my number one concern all along and was the motivation for all my further contributions to the discussion. There could be issues of subscriptions exceeding production numbers so it probably would be more trouble than it is worth.
The subscription idea may or may not happen and I'm 100% ok if it never does. I am absolutely fine with the current system and Neil's laudable management and dedication to the pre-release announcements.
I understand the business side of the equation, Topps' motivations and goals, and the way the market works. I'm also a big fan of capitalism, freedom of speech, individual rights, and still consider Pluto a planet.
I am now finished contributing on this subject and instead will wait to post images of my postcards once they arrive (tomorrow). Next time I'm going to get expedited shipping! :great:
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Wacky postcards weren't made for the true believer/true follower/true collector. If they were then they should be called "Wacky Elitist Postcards".
I personally do not care which ever course Topps takes in the future, nor do I care about people trying to profit from them. So be it capitalism and America. As someone else stated (and myself) Topps will probably not change their selling practice on these because it is working for them. I can see how it would be annoying to a collector if he/she knows for a fact that they keep missing out due to someone buying out or over the limited supply. But then again, Topps has limited the amounts to 3 per household to remedy that to some degree I suppose. I just merely like to come up with suggestions and ideas that may be fun and take pokes at the debates from now and then. Even if I were to have missed out, I still would of thought that it just wasn't meant to be for me and this set and move on. I do not need to own every Wacky Item that comes down the pike but I do like collecting Wacky stuff. I really do not take Wackys too seriously and choose to just enjoy them whenever possible. And now for something completely different. An "on topic" point of view.
Without blowing anyones anticipation for those who haven't recieved theirs yet, I must say I really like the Postcard that busts on Lemonheads candy. I think that is my favorite one of the set, but the Mary Jane parody is also very cool.
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I personally do not care which ever course Topps takes in the future, nor do I care about people trying to profit from them. So be it capitalism and America. As someone else stated (and myself) Topps will probably not change their selling practice on these because it is working for them. I can see how it would be annoying to a collector if he/she knows for a fact that they keep missing out due to someone buying out or over the limited supply. But then again, Topps has limited the amounts to 3 per household to remedy that to some degree I suppose. I just merely like to come up with suggestions and ideas that may be fun and take pokes at the debates from now and then. Even if I were to have missed out, I still would of thought that it just wasn't meant to be for me and this set and move on. I do not need to own every Wacky Item that comes down the pike but I do like collecting Wacky stuff. I really do not take Wackys too seriously and choose to just enjoy them whenever possible. And now for something completely different. An "on topic" point of view.
Without blowing anyones anticipation for those who haven't recieved theirs yet, I must say I really like the Postcard that busts on Lemonheads candy. I think that is my favorite one of the set, but the Mary Jane parody is also very cool.
I really enjoyed the new postcard set. The one for Lemonheads had me doing a google search. I am happy thatI was able to get a set.
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Alamo Draft House / MondoTees movie posters experience similar things....they immediately triple in value on eBay, they day they go on sale. But they aren't changing what they are doing....
And the posters rock...frankly. Check out the archive pages...
http://www.mondotees.com/
Edit: most recently they brought Drew Struzan out of retirement for this gem. Sold out in minutes...
http://www.mondoarchive.com/poster/frankenstein/
i TRIED TO GET THAT sTRUZAN/FRANKENSTEIN POSTER, BUT WAS SHUT OUT. iT IS THE BOMB!!!!
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Have we seen scalpers/flippers yet? I've seen maybe 1 or 2 guys with 6 for sale but no mega flipper yet.
At least one of the mega flippers has them, selling from multiple IDs or so I hear. The last minute release system didn't really work. They lasted til morning only because there were 660 sets instead of 500.
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My set is scheduled to arrive on Monday. The UPS man just drove up, so I went outside hoping they would show up early, but he had a package for my neighbor :'(
I hesitated to pay extra for fast shipping, but next time I will. If I can afford to drop 50 bucks on a few postcards then I can afford to pay for fast shipping, yup
660 sets x $50 is $33,000
By the time Topps pays for artwork and production costs, I wonder how much paydough they actually end up with. Is Topps on the NASDAQ? How's their stock been doing?
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My set is scheduled to arrive on Monday. The UPS man just drove up, so I went outside hoping they would show up early, but he had a package for my neighbor :'(
I hesitated to pay extra for fast shipping, but next time I will. If I can afford to drop 50 bucks on a few postcards then I can afford to pay for fast shipping, yup
660 sets x $50 is $33,000
By the time Topps pays for artwork and production costs, I wonder how much paydough they actually end up with. Is Topps on the NASDAQ? How's their stock been doing?
i think topps is a private company.i do know wacky packages is a small part of a quarter of billion dollar a year company
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i think topps is a private company.i do know wacky packages is a small part of a quarter of billion dollar a year company
Yes Topps is a private company. It was once public but was taken private for $375 million during the peak of the private equity boom in 2007. The private equity company that bought them was founded, and I assume still partially owned, by Michael Eisner of Disney.
Given what's happened in the markets since then, I can only assume the company today is worth a portion of what it traded for back then.
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I really enjoyed the new postcard set. The one for Lemonheads had me doing a google search. I am happy thatI was able to get a set.
My Signed set of postcards was missing a signature on the Humanhead/lemonhead Card. Don't know if I should contact Topps about this or not. Should I let it go as it would be unusally rare if all of the sets sold were all signed except my postcard? Or would it be considered more desirable by collectors if it were signed? I sort of feel slighted because I really like the parody and would have liked to have it signed by the artist, but if that makes this exceptionally rare, that also would be cool. Any thoughts/input on this appreciated.
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Well it looks like Clint was able to get 9 sets. You can but most for $300-$500...LOL the thing that gets me excited is I didn't get the sketches I wanted but that are cards that were dealt. It's like a crap shoot. I would have loved to get 9 sets because he does have some good ones.
I think I need to get my family involved next series because Topps doesn't really care. Since they said they won't ship multiple sets to the same address I guess it doesn't matter if people all have the same last name.
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660 sets x $50 is $33,000
By the time Topps pays for artwork and production costs, I wonder how much paydough they actually end up with.
Don't forget the art sales.
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Yes Topps is a private company. It was once public but was taken private for $375 million during the peak of the private equity boom in 2007. The private equity company that bought them was founded, and I assume still partially owned, by Michael Eisner of Disney.
Given what's happened in the markets since then, I can only assume the company today is worth a portion of what it traded for back then.
Great assumption and correct...its hard to value a private company...but Topps sold out to eisner at the historically low end of their pricing range. There wasn't even a premium paid :'(
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I bought my three sets from Topps directly and then I purchased an additional 8 sets from other people paying in excess of $100.00 per set. Let's not jump to conclusions that anyone selling more than 3 Halloween sketches on Ebay purchased them directly from Topps. It might be fair to assume that anyone posting more than 3 this week did receive them directly from Topps. If you see additional sketches next week, many of them could have been purchased in the after market. I still believe that these unopened sets will dry up very quickly. I think if you can obtain them under $100.00 per set, this is a fair value. How many Unopened postcard sets or Postcard sketches do you see on Ebay these days? There is a continue flow of Old School Sketches from Series One and Two but the Postcards sketches are very limited. Having said this, I agree that this year's Halloween sketches are the best Postcard release to date.
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I bought my three sets from Topps directly and then I purchased an additional 8 sets from other people paying in excess of $100.00 per set. Let's not jump to conclusions that anyone selling more than 3 Halloween sketches on Ebay purchased them directly from Topps. It might be fair to assume that anyone posting more than 3 this week did receive them directly from Topps. If you see additional sketches next week, many of them could have been purchased in the after market. I still believe that these unopened sets will dry up very quickly. I think if you can obtain them under $100.00 per set, this is a fair value. How many Unopened postcard sets or Postcard sketches do you see on Ebay these days? There is a continue flow of Old School Sketches from Series One and Two but the Postcards sketches are very limited. Having said this, I agree that this year's Halloween sketches are the best Postcard release to date.
Unless I know the seller well I stay away from these unopened postcard sets because there is barely any glue holding the envelope sealed. I definitely wouldn't buy one off ebay from someone I didn't know. This of course wouldn't matter if you don't care what sketch card you get.
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I agree with you 100%. I would only buy unopened material from trusted Wacky sellers. I bought 5 2010 Halloween Sets last year a few weeks after the release date and I got some of the most common sketches in my packs. I strongly suspect that these were tampered with.
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I agree with you 100%. I would only buy unopened material from trusted Wacky sellers. I bought 5 2010 Halloween Sets last year a few weeks after the release date and I got some of the most common sketches in my packs. I strongly suspect that these were tampered with.
Everyone I spoke to that bought them off of ebay had that same experience. They just happened to have the ones the weren't selling well!
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Does anyone know if the Wacky artists will be selling Halloween return sketches this year? I know in the past Topps usually sends back a few extras directly to the artists who created them. They usually sell them on the forum or Ebay.
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Tonight 9 PM (Chicago) ME TV is showing Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein
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I will be selling some Halloween 2000 return sketchcards on ebay. As soon as I can contact Topps to approve 'em....and as soon as everyone returns from the con, and some more sketches are posted.
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I will be selling some Halloween 2000 return sketchcards on ebay. As soon as I can contact Topps to approve 'em....and as soon as everyone returns from the con, and some more sketches are posted.
Dude,
George Wright and Fred Wheaton are cool...great artists..they signed some wacky's for me..Zapata the man!! he did a super cool pumpkin with the face frpm the 10th series NUTS...came out awesome...some really nice sketches that George did..for ans7 & 8 and of course OLDS 1 & 2...
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Dude,
George Wright and Fred Wheaton are cool...great artists..they signed some wacky's for me..Zapata the man!! he did a super cool pumpkin with the face frpm the 10th series NUTS...came out awesome...some really nice sketches that George did..for ans7 & 8 and of course OLDS 1 & 2...
Yeah, it was cool to spend time with 3 of the Wacky artists! I had never met Fred and George before and they were both great guys.
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Have we seen scalpers/flippers yet? I've seen maybe 1 or 2 guys with 6 for sale but no mega flipper yet.
I take this statement back, 9046clint seems to have the whole family in on it.
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Can someone provide me the how the pairs of bio-cards came in this series? I'm assuming the pairs of artists were all the same but I haven't been paying attention to it. I think these are correct?...............
KIRSCHT/ZAPATA
PAT C./SIMKO
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wow, great times for the Wacky collectors!
New postcards, a great Jay Lynch comic to go with it, Series 2 of
the erasers, ANS 8 released not too long ago,
Old School 3 coming soon.... gotta love it!
Thank you, Topps, and everyone involved!
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Can someone provide me the how the pairs of bio-cards came in this series? I'm assuming the pairs of artists were all the same but I haven't been paying attention to it. I think these are correct?...............
KIRSCHT/ZAPATA
PAT C./SIMKO
I know Camera/Lynch is a pair because it's the two I don't have so that means
Engstrom/Zeleznik must be the other combo.
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I know Camera/Lynch is a pair because it's the two I don't have so that means
Engstrom/Zeleznik must be the other combo.
I'm missing the Camera/Lynch pair also. I'm hearing others need that combo as well. Wonder why its tougher to find? I paid $40 for the pair off ebay.
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I'm missing the Camera/Lynch pair also. I'm hearing others need that combo as well. Wonder why its tougher to find? I paid $40 for the pair off ebay.
I ended up getting of dupes of those two and I needed the Simko/Chaimuang.
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I know Camera/Lynch is a pair because it's the two I don't have so that means
Engstrom/Zeleznik must be the other combo.
Yes...b/c I was missing the Eng/Zel...
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I'm missing the Camera/Lynch pair also. I'm hearing others need that combo as well. Wonder why its tougher to find? I paid $40 for the pair off ebay.
Ironically that was the pair I had offered in my Lemonhead sketch auction set....
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Pairs= Bog Red & Toothie Roll, Alltoads & Humanhead, Ork & Hairy Mane, and Cracker Drak & Witchamacallit
Pat Joe Matthew Jeff Neil Lynch Brent John Z
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Ironically that was the pair I had offered in my Lemonhead sketch auction set....
Why is that ironic? I already got the lemonhead sketch. You also may have been better off selling the sketch and bios separately.
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Why is that ironic? I already got the lemonhead sketch. You also may have been better off selling the sketch and bios separately.
Ironic because you could have grabbed the sketch set and sold off the sketch and extras with a net result of spending less than $40 for the two bios.....