One of the higher priced Jay Lynch/Old School sketch cards.If I was going to drop $1000 on this stuff, I don't see my spending it on one colored sketch over two final arts such as Spackle and Boreteen arts. The sketch completist mentality is really leading to some high prices on sketches eh?
If I was going to drop $1000 on this stuff, I don't see my spending it on one colored sketch over two final arts such as Spackle and Boreteen arts. The sketch completist mentality is really leading to some high prices on sketches eh?My thinking is the same. $1000 for a one-of-a-kind doodle instead of one, or even TWO published paintings? I guess it goes to show the power of Jay Lynch's reputation.
My thinking is the same. $1000 for a one-of-a-kind doodle instead of one, or even TWO published paintings? I guess it goes to show the power of Jay Lynch's reputation.
If I had $1000 to spend on something like this, I'd lean more towards an original painting or two as well.
I really wanted that Wander bread art. It was sitting at around $400 so I put in a snipe of $555 but it wasn't enough. That one is my favorite from the postcards. That character running after the bread is hilarious :]This is the exact gag I have always mentioned I would want to see done, I even mentioned this to David Saunders years ago when he and I were kicking around some project ideas. It is possible I posted this on the old forum when we were kicking aound homemade ideas. I was thrilled to see something like this become a real wacky.
Notice how the ink soaked through to the back. Is that happening with the other color sketch cards?
I missed the auction for the rough art to "Funny Taste".I really wanted that because i own the original color art.Is this your auction, or are you referring to different art?
Busted Ball line artI haven't looked at ebay in ages and have two questions/comments.
I haven't looked at ebay in ages and have two questions/comments.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2009-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Old-School-Rough-Art-BUSTED_W0QQitemZ200461231326QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Basketball?hash=item2eac6ba4de
Do auctions like this have a minimum bid? No minimum seems strange.
$4.75 to ship art?!
Bark - roughWow, I gotta start paying more attention to these on ebay, I am not seeing them for some reason. They are selling for less than some Old School sketches that exist in multiples!
Boreateen - rough
BC Cola - rough
Boreateen art sells again. This time for less.
I look for art on ebay and all I get is auctions by this Probsein guy. This is so irritating. So obviously this guy (or consigned) every weird wacky that Topps did? Not enough to get me excited.
I should reiterate that I am not a collector of obscure Wacky items. I want what is main stream. The reason I say this is because I don't want to deal with the totally one off stuff Topps did. Most of this stuff is not in high demand. You would think it should be, but to me it's not. I don't think most collectors collect for the total value of an item, if you do then you might hate this hobby. If you want it in your collection then you will invest the cash otherwise it really has no meaning since you couldn't collect it as a kid.
I look for art on ebay and all I get is auctions by this Probsein guy. This is so irritating. So obviously this guy (or consigned) sells every weird wacky that Topps did? Not enough to get me excited.I agree, seeing the probstein auctions is annoying. Speaking of which, is there a way to set your ebay searches to ignore certain sellers?
Brylscream - final art
Wow, I'm surprised that beauty went for only $700.00.And the color sketches are getting almost twice that! I for the life of me do'nt get it :^)
Busted Ball - rough
Klepto - line art
Taco Bill - line art
Wander Bread - line art
Klepto, Taco Bill and Wander Bread are all roughs.
Actually...I remember all of the 1st series postcard paintings breaking $2,000 with Dracky Packages going the highest selling over $2,700.Thanks for the correction. I missed the first series auctions.
Spackel - color art
This sells for $400 but a sketch card doodle sells for $1200. Freakin' weird.
Yeah, that's kinda messed up.I think it's an "Officially issued trading card" thing.
Spackel - color art
This sells for $400 but a sketch card doodle sells for $1200. Freakin' weird.
You have to realize that Koduck is more iconic then Taco Bill. The color sketches do look fantastic in person as does original art paintings. These sketch cards are a strange phenomenon. We may never see this kind of craze again.There is ZERO chance I would choose Koduck color sketch over Tombs painting. I just didn't care to spend $1000 at this moment in time but had I decided to, I would have bid on Tomb's.
No matter how popular the Koduck character is, it doesn't explain why people are paying more for them than fully rendered published paintings. I don't believe anybody pays $1000 for a tiny doodle just because they like the character. Anybody can commission these from Jay directly for a tiny fraction of the cost of these anointed sketch cards. There's some really disturbing behavior taking place here.
No matter how popular the Koduck character is, it doesn't explain why people are paying more for them than fully rendered published paintings. I don't believe anybody pays $1000 for a tiny doodle just because they like the character. Anybody can commission these from Jay directly for a tiny fraction of the cost of these anointed sketch cards. There's some really disturbing behavior taking place here.I don't like that Jay can be so readily commissioned to do the exact same characters that are part of Topps sketch sets. For this reason, I am probably going to refrain from chasing any other Topps chase sketch sets unless Topps puts something in place that prevents the watering down of the market of those images.
I don't like that Jay can be so readily commissioned to do the exact same characters that are part of Topps sketch sets. For this reason, I am probably going to refrain from chasing any other Topps chase sketch sets unless Topps puts something in place that prevents the watering down of the market of those images.
It's because it's a chase card from a card series. That is all it is. People love the chase and are frustrated when they spend big money on boxes not getting what they want so they will spend a few extra bucks to buy it instead of another 30 boxes to get burned again. I wanted the Tombs painting and put in a $950 snipe. With the lower prices the art has been selling for I thought that would be adequate. It would have sold lower if I didn't have my bid in. I will have to review how low it would have gone for.Shortly before the Tombs painting,the Stenchberries painting went for $2000 to $2050 if memory serves me. Stenchberries was done by Smokin' Joe and Tombs by John Zeleznik what gives,is it the artist or the product being spoofed or what?
I just looked it up and Tombs would have sold for aound $700 if I didn't have my snipe. The same is also true for the berries sketch. If m..m didn't have his $2100 bid in, it would have sold for around $1160. M..m didn't win the auction but if he stayed out it would have sold lower. I am not sure where I am going with this but you can see from those 2 auctions if bidder m..m didn't want them bad enough they would have gone lower. These auctions really aren't any gauge for future value of a painting. I believe the market is just soft right now so buy the ones you want and you will probably get a below value buy.You are ASSUMING there were no other snipe bids that were attempted that were preempted by M...M bid. If let's say I threw a $1500 snipe but m...m $2100 bid was made seconds before me, you will never know I had a $1500 snipe.
I don't think people perceive the same value of a commissioned sketch compared to a chase card sketch. If you want one bad enough don't plan to recoup your cost. It should just be for personal enjoyment.It is not really a value thing, it is more of the feeling of collecting something that is somewhat unique and special. Knowing that Jay can do 1000 more Gadzooka hags tomorrow at $5 each to someone who randomly commissions him would make owning a Gadzooka hag sketch from Old School less special even if there are 150 old school gadzooka hags. This detail should have been worked out by Topps in advance and I hope they start taking control of the images they own otherwise I plan to fully exploit their lack of protection of these images through some artists friends of mine.
It is not really a value thing, it is more of the feeling of collecting something that is somewhat unique and special. Knowing that Jay can do 1000 more Gadzooka hags tomorrow at $5 each to someone who randomly commissions him would make owning a Gadzooka hag sketch from Old School less special even if there are 150 old school gadzooka hags. This detail should have been worked out by Topps in advance and I hope they start taking control of the images they own otherwise I plan to fully exploit their lack of protection of these images through some artists friends of mine.
Wit, so you think people here are going to buy drawings by some random artist buds of yours with no connection to Wacky Packages? Why would they care? Jay has only been able to sell them because he's Jay. Jay usually sells his drawing for around $300 so these $5 simpler doodles are an anomaly. They were done as some kind of favor to Greg to help him pawn off the big stack of Wacky II books he bought. The big difference between the commissioned sketches and the Topps card sketches is that the OLDS sketches are actual trading cards, part of the series and specifically limited and copyrighted. If it's made by Topps it's a WP. If it's done by Jay or anyone else on their own including me it's a bootleg. I agree that there needs to be some limitations of things and I've already heard some talk about it. I'm sure when I bring up the sketches in my meeting tomorrow I'll hear some info. Don't worry they are aware of this conundrum. They don't want to limit their artists side projects which help them make some much needed extra cash but also want to protect the integrity of sketch cards siunce these are now becoming common place in all kinds of Topps series. I will LYK what is brought up.I never said my friends were going to create drawings. They will in fact create beautifully colored shirts with wacky pack characters on them. You needn't worry about whether they will sell don't let that be a distraction for you. The point is that Topps again doesn't seem too concerned about protecting the copyrights of its products and images. They blew it off with Lost Wackys.
I never said my friends were going to create drawings. They will in fact create beautifully colored shirts with wacky pack characters on them. You needn't worry about whether they will sell don't let that be a distraction for you. The point is that Topps again doesn't seem too concerned about protecting the copyrights of its products and images. They blew it off with Lost Wackys.
I didn't suggest Jay should be shut out of opportunities but possibly some stuff reserved for artists freedom and some protected for future Topps products. May be hard to do as one can't predict the future. I agree Jay doing Old School cards is part of the appeal and that one off stuff not assoicated with a Topps release doesn't seem to have the same market value so I will refrain from referencing market value as that is not my point. It is purely about a level of uniqueness that should be preserved for these special sets otherwise, the sets become less special, that is all there is to it.
Let me present this a different way, let's assume for a future Old School set, some neat new combination of existing wacky characters was presented or they were presented in some form of new and novel way that at the moment is unique to the Old School set(really cool new quotes or as part of new gags). If an artist can then in effect exactly mimic what was produced in the Old school set, it DOES take away from the specialness. It is hard to argue that it has NO impact which you seem to be saying.
You have to realize that Koduck is more iconic then Taco Bill. The color sketches do look fantastic in person as does original art paintings. These sketch cards are a strange phenomenon. We may never see this kind of craze again.
No matter how popular the Koduck character is, it doesn't explain why people are paying more for them than fully rendered published paintings. I don't believe anybody pays $1000 for a tiny doodle just because they like the character. Anybody can commission these from Jay directly for a tiny fraction of the cost of these anointed sketch cards. There's some really disturbing behavior taking place here.
All these explanations being presented for spending ridiculous money on sketch cards are stock answers that describe the average collector. But not this. $1600 per doodle defies all these explanations. Either these one or two buyers are totally filthy stinkin' rich or they're hobby drunk. If they're filthy stinkin' rich then where where they before the sketch cards? I'm not suggesting an intervention. I'd just like to see more rational discourse about this subject. I know people will collect anything and everything. But let's not casually chalk it up to the average reasons we collect.I would think you should be able to answer your own question, weren't you a healthy gold seeker? How did you rationalize that behavior and belief that rather ugly looking cards should be worth hundreds each?
I would think you should be able to answer your own question, weren't you a healthy gold seeker? How did you rationalize that behavior and belief that rather ugly looking cards should be worth hundreds each?
You opinion that gold border stickers are ugly has no value in this discussion.It is obvious you are too emotional about gold collecting to be able to step out of the forest for a minute to see it is the same thing as color sketch collecting. Since I collect neither, I think I am less emotional about it.
I didn't build my gold set by paying $200 a sticker. I differed the cost by buying a lot of cases and selling off the extra stuff. I bought a few at the end but the total investment was very small. If I had to pay $200 each to build the set I would never have done such a silly thing. Again, this has nothing to do with paying $1600 for 20 minute sketches.
It is obvious you are too emotional about gold collecting to be able to step out of the forest for a minute to see it is the same thing as color sketch collecting. Since I collect neither, I think I am less emotional about it.I don’t know anybody who paid that much for a gold set. I didn’t. The only thing I’m emotional about here is that you won’t stop trying to catch me in a contradiction every chance you get.
The reality is that I don't recall any posts from you questioning the rationality of these same collectors spending $10,000 on gold sets(in fact, there are far more posts where you become definant towards anyone who ridiculed gold collecting much like you are ridiculing color sketch collecting). You are questioning the rationality of color sketch collecting all while telling me that my bringing up gold collecting is completely irrelevant. I would say your logic there is less rational than the chase collectors.
I don’t know anybody who paid that much for a gold set. I didn’t. The only thing I’m emotional about here is that you won’t stop trying to catch me in a contradiction every chance you get.maybe if you would stop contradicting yourself, then I would stop "catching" you :P
Again, this has nothing to do with paying $1600 for 20 minute sketches.
I'm guessing the colored ones took Jay longer than 20 mins to do. Those things are miniature works of art. I don't see them as mere "doodles" at all.I agree, have to think that my colored sketch cards took Jay much longer than 20 minutes to create. The nitwit in particular is like a mini painting.
It is obvious you are too emotional about gold collecting to be able to step out of the forest for a minute to see it is the same thing as color sketch collecting. Since I collect neither, I think I am less emotional about it.
The reality is that I don't recall any posts from you questioning the rationality of these same collectors spending $10,000 on gold sets(in fact, there are far more posts where you become definant towards anyone who ridiculed gold collecting much like you are ridiculing color sketch collecting). You are questioning the rationality of color sketch collecting all while telling me that my bringing up gold collecting is completely irrelevant. I would say your logic there is less rational than the chase collectors.
You also have to realize that someone else bid that high for the top bidder to get it for $1600. This could have been purchased for a lot less if others didn't bid that high also. It basically shows you that others think this is valued at $1600 and not just one person.It is ridiculous to claim that a machine generated colored border created on a set of like 80 stickers is more creative and attractive than a colored "doodle" created by a wacky pack iconic figure like Jay Lynch of an iconic wacky pack character that was distributed as part of a Topps sanctioned wacky packages set.
I'm guessing the colored ones took Jay longer than 20 mins to do. Those things are miniature works of art. I don't see them as mere "doodles" at all.I'm sure it took Jay more than 20 minutes to do a color sketch. Maybe an hour. That's not really my point.
You also have to realize that someone else bid that high for the top bidder to get it for $1600. This could have been purchased for a lot less if others didn't bid that high also. It basically shows you that others think this is valued at $1600 and not just one person.
Since sketch cards are being classified as "original art" rather than mass produced replications I won't compare them go gold border stickers or any other printed chaser. In many cases they're great little examples of an artists talent. They're delightful samples of characters we love. They're not works of art that require a new concept, days of design and days more to execute. The few who are paying $1000 or more for a sketch need to put things into perspective and realize a modern sketch a card should not be as valuable as a Wacky painting.
Since sketch cards are being classified as "original art" rather than mass produced replications I won't compare them go gold border stickers or any other printed chaser. In many cases they're great little examples of an artists talent. They're delightful samples of characters we love. They're not works of art that require a new concept, days of design and days more to execute. The few who are paying $1000 or more for a sketch need to put things into perspective and realize a modern sketch a card should not be as valuable as a Wacky painting.I totally agree with you that valuing these sketch cards over original art doesn't make sense.
I never suggested they be ridiculed. Where were they before the sketch cards? Why aren't they bidding up the paintings? They can get a more refined and better known work in a painting than a sketch. Recognition of the character in no way justifies paying thousands for it.You might as well study Leslie and Marc as they are the key contributors to both the gold rush and the color sketch stretch(we all know the tall tales of greg having more than 5 people lined up to buy complete gold sets for $14k were as tall as tall tales get).
It seems people here just want to look at paying $1600 for a brand new color sketch as the usual every day occurrence. Nothing absurd going on here. I suppose a sketch card is equal to a Cracked Animals. At what point would the price seem absurd? $5000 per sketch? $20,000?
I DO think it's crazy to pay $100-200 a card to build a gold set...unless you have money to burn. Leslie and Marc are probably in that position. But when Brad says he wants to pay $1000 for one of these things I believe he's got the fever. You can suggest I not give a damn but for now I do.
I won't debate whether the sketch cards are art because nobody will ever agree on what art is. As an artist and Wacky collector these cards don't look like art to me. You want to see a sketch card that I consider art? Here's one.
There seems to be a lot of discussion about the values of color sketches (over-valued) and art. Just wonder what the members feel about the black and white sketches? With the handfull of commons going for about $12-$16 each, do you think that's a good representation of the worth? Should one that has a quantity of 100 be valued at twice as much as one with a quantity of 200? Would like to hear some opinions.Price is dictated by the combo of supply and demand. Demand still seems to be a bit hard to determine. It appears demand for original series wacky characters, especially series 1, is the highest as titles that are plentiful such as Cap N Crud or Quacker often find a buyer in the $50 or higher range. I suspect those buyers just want iconic characters and hence I think prices will stablize or even rise for those titles over time. I have had numerous people ask me to break up my extra lot of 22 different but I think the number of collections like this will soon be far and few between as the single titles get gobbled up by people who don't want all titles. The market couldn't possible more saturated than it is right now with Leslie dumping all of her supply at once(something she said she wouldn't do but alas I have yet to match up her actions and her words). Because of this, I would say these prices today would be as low as they will go and I have been tempted to start buying some of these lots. One thing that could go against all of the above would be as newer wacky series come out, the sketches become unwanted dinosaurs but I just don't see that happening because major iconic characters are represented.
I DO think it's crazy to pay $100-200 a card to build a gold set...unless you have money to burn. Leslie and Marc are probably in that position. But when Brad says he wants to pay $1000 for one of these things I believe he's got the fever. You can suggest I not give a damn but for now I do.
I won't debate whether the sketch cards are art because nobody will ever agree on what art is. As an artist and Wacky collector these cards don't look like art to me. You want to see a sketch card that I consider art? Here's one.
Price is dictated by the combo of supply and demand. Demand still seems to be a bit hard to determine. It appears demand for original series wacky characters, especially series 1, is the highest as titles that are plentiful such as Cap N Crud or Quacker often find a buyer in the $50 or higher range. I suspect those buyers just want iconic characters and hence I think prices will stablize or even rise for those titles over time. I have had numerous people ask me to break up my extra lot of 22 different but I think the number of collections like this will soon be far and few between as the single titles get gobbled up by people who don't want all titles. The market couldn't possible more saturated than it is right now with Leslie dumping all of her supply at once(something she said she wouldn't do but alas I have yet to match up her actions and her words). Because of this, I would say these prices today would be as low as they will go and I have been tempted to start buying some of these lots. One thing that could go against all of the above would be as newer wacky series come out, the sketches become unwanted dinosaurs but I just don't see that happening because major iconic characters are represented.
Yes Agreed...especially if for WOS II they ONLY do Sketches representing the stickers in that series and NO Iconic characters..that would drive up the WOS I sketches, specifically the Cap'nCrud, Koduck, etc...obviously this would entail restricting Jay to series characters and not anything that moves him... :P
What about the unopened boxes? Did we ever find a Dr. Ono B&W, Cow, or Paste it Boy?? maybe I missed it?
I don't believe any of those b&W's have showed up so I think the assumption is at this point they probably weren't done.The b&w Bubble Yuk cow sketch is on the sketch poster, and at least one showed up, I think it was pretty early on. No b&w Dr. Ono or Paste-it-Anyplace ever turned up on the forum or ebay, and those are not on the sketch poster.
The b&w Bubble Yuk cow sketch is on the sketch poster, and at least one showed up, I think it was pretty early on. No b&w Dr. Ono or Paste-it-Anyplace ever turned up on the forum or ebay, and those are not on the sketch poster.
Thanks for the correction………I missed the "cow" in there. I am one of the lucky ones to have a Bubble Yuk.
Well that makes 2 people I know that have the cow. Jay must have only done a handful. Very tough sketch!Who else besides Rob has the Bubble Yuk cow?
I don't believe any of those b&W's have showed up so I think the assumption is at this point they probably weren't done.I often have questions I'm too embarrassed to ask, and usually don't ask them (unless I'm drunk), but WTF, here it goes . . .
I often have questions I'm too embarrassed to ask, and usually don't ask them (unless I'm drunk), but WTF, here it goes . . .
Has any trading card company ever released material without telling the public what was released? I don't "get" this, that Topps doesn't tell us what they produced? Am I a complete idiot, or is that just plain dumb? That's not a rhetorical question - if I'm a fool, tell me so, but this whole sketch thing really has be scratching my head....Topps says "COLLECT THIS STUFF" but they won't tell us what titles they made?
Maybe a great marketing strategy - don't tell collectors what was produced - and make them chase chase chase?
Let's try to keep the sketch card discussions down in the sketch card thread.
Who else besides Rob has the Bubble Yuk cow?
Let's try to keep the sketch card discussions down in the sketch card thread.
You started it ;)
Also, many would consider sketch cards as art. I know I do.
Plan,
Since you graciously offered to help document the art auctions, what would you think of this: Perhaps we should have a thread that only you can post on, with regards to the auction closings - one that is locked from any other members. Discussion of eBay auctions could be done in another thread, with all of the expected tangents and offshoots that would occur with it. In that way, we have a thread that is more utilitarian, and informational - which I think was the original intent of documenting the art auctions. I'd love to have a thread that could be used to reference the original art auctions, without having to weed through typical discussion.
Is that a crazy idea?
Has the color Franken Brainy art sold yet? I don't see it documented here.
Yes, that was one of my returns. I sold Franken Brainy, Qreep and Funny Taste. I have BC and Spazzles.Thanks for the info - I knew Qreep belonged to someone else, and was hoping to have a shot at Franken Brainy. Guess I'll keep watching, as I'd really like to get a painting from the series.
I often have questions I'm too embarrassed to ask, and usually don't ask them (unless I'm drunk), but WTF, here it goes . . .
Has any trading card company ever released material without telling the public what was released? I don't "get" this, that Topps doesn't tell us what they produced? Am I a complete idiot, or is that just plain dumb? That's not a rhetorical question - if I'm a fool, tell me so, but this whole sketch thing really has be scratching my head....Topps says "COLLECT THIS STUFF" but they won't tell us what titles they made?
Maybe a great marketing strategy - don't tell collectors what was produced - and make them chase chase chase?
I think this is a rather unique situation with the sketch cards, being that they were done very random, and the fact that each one is technically a "1 off" item. We as collectors classified the sketch cards but Topps probably doesn't care too much about exact quantities of them. Plus there may be a legal issue with the odds and such which I believe Dave may have mentioned at some point.Mike from Topps Vault had said at the Philly show that he would get us a list of sketch quantities. Now that they're sold out, maybe we'll get it.
Mike from Topps Vault had said at the Philly show that he would get us a list of sketch quantities. Now that they're sold out, maybe we'll get it.
Booze on Tap - Old School artWow, good to see these are finally starting to hit some good sell prices, $1600 is pretty damn good!
Wow, good to see these are finally starting to hit some good sell prices, $1600 is pretty damn good!
Speed Lick - bonus card artSpeed Lick is back up on ebay. The seller is probstein, and he's listed it as a BIN for $625.
Speed Lick is back up on ebay. The seller is probstein, and he's listed it as a BIN for $625.
If you noticed the seller probstein has a lot of Topps Wacky stuff for sale now on ebay( TONS) Makes you wonder????
A ton of items and many have outrageous prices!I skip right on by his auctions, paying no attention to them whatsoever. Didn't someone here(Marc?) say they met him in person and went to his house? Did he have all of this stuff or is he a clearing house for someone?
Probstein is selling all the wacky stuff MickandDadCollectibles purchased from the Toppsvault.
Project 19 original art. Nice to see another Old School painting that received a fair price.This is one of my faves from this set, glad to see it got that recognition with the art price!
Maulboro final artWELL I NEVER BEEN...........GETT'EM WACKY WOLF
It didn't sell for a great price. I expected a bit more for a cigarette gag but I think the lack of gag material makes it less desirable. The sketch card of the grumpy smoking dog sitting on the cloud would have been fantastic on the front of this pack. The butts are very nicely illustrated.
I would like to own this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jay-Lynch-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Art-Jolly-Mean-Demented-/250696653842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5eaf5c12
Go for it.......no bids so far!
only if you lend me the money ;D
I think Plan 9 should be done arguing the high prices these little scribbles on paper (sketches)are generating since he just sold one for $338. Maybe it was because it included the LE PC's with it :DWhy should I stop arguing the stupidity of paying ridiculous money for sketch cards just because I sold a postcard set for a meager $338? Nothing has changed in my philosophy. And I never said a few hundred dollars is out of line. I said a THOUSAND dollars or more is out of line when paintings are selling for less. However, I'm perfectly willing to take your money.
I think Plan 9 should be done arguing the high prices these little scribbles on paper (sketches)are generating since he just sold one for $338. Maybe it was because it included the LE PC's with it :D
What sketch title went that high?Matt k Tomato sketch
Why should I stop arguing the stupidity of paying ridiculous money for sketch cards just because I sold a postcard set for a meager $338? Nothing has changed in my philosophy. And I never said a few hundred dollars is out of line. I said a THOUSAND dollars or more is out of line when paintings are selling for less. However, I'm perfectly willing to take your money.
Come to think of it, the fact that you characterize my statements as "complaining" means I haven't gotten through to you at all.
No one complains when they make a $300 profit. It's more like a hush.I don't really mean that people are stupid for paying high prices for sketch cards. They're not. I just think there's a very odd imbalance of value in the hobby right now.
I don't really mean that people are stupid for paying high prices for sketch cards. They're not. I just think there's a very odd imbalance of value in the hobby right now.
$338 was absolutely shocking to me. It was a sealed pack right up until minutes before I listed it. I was going to sell the sealed pack but couldn't bare not knowing if the "wolf on the cloud" sketch was in there. I don't even think I'd get that much for a sealed pack so opening it was a very good move.
After seeing some of those phase 2 sketches Neil posted, I don't know how anyone kept those packs sealed. If you had pulled the "wolf on the cloud" sketch, would you have kept it?
That was a very cool H8 sketch you got, and from the beginning, the H8 sketches seemed to be commanding pretty high prices, so I'm not terribly surprised you got such a good price.
I would like to own this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jay-Lynch-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Art-Jolly-Mean-Demented-/250696653842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5eaf5c12
I'm not sure if he's still doing them, but you might be able to get your own Jay Lynch sketch. Check this link out for many other neat Jay drawings:Why is greg always positioned as Jay's cash register? For tax purposes?
http://www.wackypackages.org/forsale/jayroughs.html
Why is greg always positioned as Jay's cash register? For tax purposes?
My hunch is Greg is making a profit off Jay's sketches. He probably told Jay he will advertise and take the money then send him his cut.I had heard that even if someone were to contact Jay directly to have a personal sketch drawn, that they have to pay through greg. This would not be a case where greg did any advertising.
I had heard that even if someone were to contact Jay directly to have a personal sketch drawn, that they have to pay through greg. This would not be a case where greg did any advertising.
I don't really mean that people are stupid for paying high prices for sketch cards. They're not. I just think there's a very odd imbalance of value in the hobby right now.
$338 was absolutely shocking to me. It was a sealed pack right up until minutes before I listed it. I was going to sell the sealed pack but couldn't bare not knowing if the "wolf on the cloud" sketch was in there. I don't even think I'd get that much for a sealed pack so opening it was a very good move.
I had heard that even if someone were to contact Jay directly to have a personal sketch drawn, that they have to pay through greg. This would not be a case where greg did any advertising.
Are you speculating that Greg is acting as Jay's agent for all Wacky-related sketches? With Greg having been the webmaster of the main Wacky Packages website for years, I can see that developing - especially if Jay would rather just deal with one person, insofar as the money part goes. Do you know this is true?I'm shaking my head because I was reading this page about 48 hours ago and had pretty much the exact question run though my mind, if a person must go through Greg.
Are you speculating that Greg is acting as Jay's agent for all Wacky-related sketches? With Greg having been the webmaster of the main Wacky Packages website for years, I can see that developing - especially if Jay would rather just deal with one person, insofar as the money part goes. Do you know this is true?
BARBASOIL - Old School ArtTrying to steal my gig?
Trying to steal my gig?
Not at all…just trying to shave off some time. ;)That's cool. I know you're really into the Wacky art. Do you keep tabs on the auctions? Have you been bidding?
That's cool. I know you're really into the Wacky art. Do you keep tabs on the auctions? Have you been bidding?
I have a basic question about Wacky paintings. I read that 'press-type' (?) was used for lettering on original paintings, and that over time those letters have deteriorated and/or fallen off, resulting in some of the incomplete original Wacky images we see sometimes.Different artists have different ways of putting their Wacky paintings together. I collect a lot of Wacky art and I'm still trying to figure out everybody's methods so that I can judge what to buy and what not to. Some techniques may deteriorate over time. I've had Wacky paintings from three separate artists start coming apart only a few months after they were made. Topps is cool about taking them back but what happens if the art starts falling apart two years later? You really need to know something of the methods of the artist who's art you're buying.
I have some ANS Wacky images blown up as LTL prints, where it appears that the letters might not have been painted, or perhaps were painted separately on a clear material and then placed onto the main art. I have been hesitant to bid on some of the art for fear that the letters will fall off. Can any of the artists shed some light on this issue? My only original art is Neil's work, and everything is painted, so I have no worries about lettering there, but I am thinking about bidding on an ANS7 piece if it comes up, and am wondering whether there's a way to tell.
I'd be sellin' anything I won for $666 real fast.
Someday the sketch card buyers are going to regret not putting their money toward these paintings instead.
Crimetapp - ANS7 final art
Someday the sketch card buyers are going to regret not putting their money toward these paintings instead.
Crimetapp - ANS7 final art
Where the hell is the kiss kat?Smokin Joe told me he left it out in the rain and the paint was washed away. But the line art or "sketch" is still on the paper and he'll sell it for $2000.
This one is going to sell high...Did you manage to grab this one?
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Stake 5 - postcard art
I did! My first art piece. Pretty excited to see it up close.Congratulations!! That's a nice piece to start with.
I tried to get the starbeast art but my lowly $1000 bid didn't have a chance. :'(
I wonder why 'Z' man puts so much effort into his art and not much into his sketch cards? He is very talented but seems to slap together his sketches while other artists put more effort in their sketches. I know the artists aren't paid much to do sketches so that could be the reason.
John really is an amazing artist and "Mellow Cups" is a great painting!The auction should have gone a lot higher - man, dig those groovey characters!I totally agree. Mellow Cup has the quality of the OS Wackys. The hippies are great. I think it was neglected because of collectors perception that it's part of a series that it didn't quite fit in. If it came with a regular postcard set it would have received a lot more appreciation. I figured it would sell low because of that reason alone.
My first piece of art arrived minutes ago. WOW! This is really nice in person. Here is a high res scan.That's excellent! Congratulations!
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My first piece of art arrived minutes ago. WOW! This is really nice in person. Here is a high res scan.
My first piece of art arrived minutes ago. WOW! This is really nice in person. Here is a high res scan.
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My first piece of art arrived minutes ago. WOW! This is really nice in person. Here is a high res scan.when I first clicked, the image that came up was just a modest size, and I wondered why you called it a high res scan.
My first piece of art arrived minutes ago. WOW! This is really nice in person. Here is a high res scan.Careful. You may get bitten by the Wacky art bug. Or the Wacky art vampire.
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when I first clicked, the image that came up was just a modest size, and I wondered why you called it a high res scan.The thing I noticed right away was how dark the postcard looks compared to the actual painting especially the letters on the top. Very very cool! I think I do have the art bug now! ;D
but then I finally noticed the "full size" option underneath the image and clicked.
WOW, now that's high res!! sweet!!
The thing I noticed right away was how dark the postcard looks compared to the actual painting especially the letters on the top. Very very cool! I think I do have the art bug now! ;DYeah I noticed that too. It looks like the entire Halloween set printed too dark. Surprised that wasn't corrected. Make having the painting all the better.
The thing I noticed right away was how dark the postcard looks compared to the actual painting especially the letters on the top. Very very cool! I think I do have the art bug now! ;DI see what you mean. And now I notice the totally different shading on the side of Drac's face.
Damn, I had a $955 snipe on the ghoul art and a guy beat me. I thought I might be able to get it for around $600 as it was sitting low for a few days. I still would have loved to have the Starbeast art.My preference is to frame each art piece as a stand alone. It starts looking tacky when you stick a bunch of other stuff in with it. I keep the stickers and postcards on display on a shelf near the art collection. I highly recommend spending an extra few bucks for museum glass. You can buy a cheap frame and ask them to cut a piece of museum glass for you. Then frame the art yourself. Don't let the glass touch the paint.
Now I need to get my Stake a custom matte. I'm thinking the art along with the postcard and possibly the wrapper. I also have about 5 stake sketches that would be cool to have them in there also. Thoughts on a very cool frame layout?
My preference is to frame each art piece as a stand alone. It starts looking tacky when you stick a bunch of other stuff in with it. I keep the stickers and postcards on display on a shelf near the art collection. I highly recommend spending an extra few bucks for museum glass. You can buy a cheap frame and ask them to cut a piece of museum glass for you. Then frame the art yourself. Don't let the glass touch the paint.Thanks for the advice!
Mr. Ghoulbar - Halloween postcard series art (bonus card)
Now I need to get my Stake a custom matte. I'm thinking the art along with the postcard and possibly the wrapper. I also have about 5 stake sketches that would be cool to have them in there also. Thoughts on a very cool frame layout?
Head & Smolders - ANS 7 final art
This gag only got two votes in the poll so far. I think it's under rated. I like this one but I wish the face wasn't so rubbery. A skull can appear surprised without stretching the brow and jaw like silly putty. Bones don't do that in Wacky Pack world. Still a pretty good character and an overall clean simple design which is always the very best approach for little Wacky Pack stickers.
I like the art and did put a bid on it at around $600. With some of them selling for around $500 I was hoping to get a bargain.When the auction ended I looked at the screen and thought I lost. They used to make it real obvious with a big red "YOU'VE WON!". Now there's so much clutter and small print I figured I must not have won it. No fanfare at all. Then I got the invoice and soo-prise soo-prise soo-prise!
When the auction ended I looked at the screen and thought I lost. They used to make it real obvious with a big red "YOU'VE WON!". Now there's so much clutter and small print I figured I must not have won it. No fanfare at all. Then I got the invoice and soo-prise soo-prise soo-prise!
When you win an ebay auction it should set off a whole fireworks display and sailing banner telling you you've won.
When you win an ebay auction it should set off a whole fireworks display and sailing banner telling you you've won.I like that idea!
I agree. With their latest update everything looks the same. See that a lot as a software designer.Isn't it nuts? Nothing more than a cold heartless "Auction Ended". How is it that ebay can build an entire campaign on bidding as competition, yet have no celebration at the finish line? WHAT AN OVER SITE! If we had some kind of visual reward for winning an auction we'd start craving that in itself. Get on the ball, ebay!
Now I know who beat me out on this one, I bid 900 and thought I won until I went back in and saw someone had outbid me at 910, you really don't want that painting you want to sell it to me( not effected by the Jedi mind trick) DarnI really don't want the painting....... I want to sell it to you......
WHAT AN OVER SITE!
When you win an ebay auction it should set off a whole fireworks display and sailing banner telling you you've won.
I just won the Crispux art. I love that one! I can't believe I got it so cheap. Almost as cheap as a gold Crispux ;)
Actually I love this cereal and eat it daily. I really love the hockey aspect and like the character. Great win!
Now that I see the image blown-up a little bit I do like that title a lot. Do you have the Gold Flash to go with it?
I don't have the gold. Not that big of deal though. I only ended up with one gold.
I like the look of that one better now that I see it enlarged as well.interesting. I like it even less now that I see it larger. Especially the box top.
interesting. I like it even less now that I see it larger. Especially the box top.
If we had some kind of visual reward for winning an auction we'd start craving that in itself. Get on the ball, ebay!That's a great point. How is it that ebay hasn't tapped into that aspect of bidding, and the psychology that goes with it? Are they too busy counting their millions?
interesting. I like it even less now that I see it larger. Especially the box top.
Man, I love Bunk's paintings!I second that Brent. Would have loved to own this but it's way out of my price range for now. Nice aqusition to whoever the winning bidder was.
That Bite a Man water art has quite a bit of paper lettering. I was thinking about trying for it but after looking up close you can really tell. Kinda stinks.what's wrong with the lettering? Don't be a hater.
we got that,LOL. I was just wondering why you see it that way? Are you referring to the technique?, painted outside the lines? what? :DVitamin water is a boring product label to start with so I don't blame the artist entirely. But the tail burst looks flat and boring. The shark's eyes and teeth are flat and boring. I'd have him crammed in the bottle, chewing his way out rather than being a midget shark with the tail busting out. The problems with Raven Bran are the essentials. The bird and the guts. Nothing appears to have any roundness or depth. Also the flies are all exactly the same. Every fly is in the same stride with the same wing flap. And what happened to the "a" in "taste"? It's falling apart already? I do like the bright colors used and the composition is nice. I'm not hating it. I just see too much potential to want it the way it is.
what's wrong with the lettering? Don't be a hater.All the paper lettering.
Vitamin water is a boring product label to start with so I don't blame the artist entirely. But the tail burst looks flat and boring. The shark's eyes and teeth are flat and boring. I'd have him crammed in the bottle, chewing his way out rather than being a midget shark with the tail busting out. The problems with Raven Bran are the essentials. The bird and the guts. Nothing appears to have any roundness or depth. Also the flies are all exactly the same. Every fly is in the same stride with the same wing flap. And what happened to the "a" in "taste"? It's falling apart already? I do like the bright colors used and the composition is nice. I'm not hating it. I just see too much potential to want it the way it is.
Air Sick Stink Ups - ANS 7 final artPoluted? Is there a thread for misspellings? ;D ... unless it's a part of the gag that I don't "get"
Poluted? Is there a thread for misspellings? ;D ... unless it's a part of the gag that I don't "get"Artists don't care about technical junk like speliling.
Wiiz - ANS 7 final art
This is from Wacky Packs, right? It's not a Garbage Pail Kid? Again, Topps knows not what their brand is about. This is disgusting. I think the sale price reflects how much it turned off the Wacky collecting crowd because this is otherwise an excellent painting. It looks less wacky without a black border though.
Wife Out - ANS 7 final art
If Wackys are for kids then what is a kid to think of this? Could he even understand it? Between this one, the BP gag and the Twitley gag I'm blown away by the crazy minded management of Topps. On one hand they want to shy away from all kinds of benign images and references they deem questionable for kids. Yet they think a gag about the kids mother getting screwed over by his father in an ugly divorce is appropriate with all the real divorces troubling kids today. This gag belongs in Maxim, not Wacky Packs. Great painting though!
Wetflix - ANS 7 final art
Black borders, Simko!
Wetflix - ANS 7 final art
Black borders, Simko!
Wetflix - ANS 7 final artah, but this way you can easily add a nice, shiny gold border....
Black borders, Simko!
Great idea, you think I can get one of the artist to paint a gold border around Wiiz for me before I frame it? at least this way I would have a complete set. :]Paint on Wacky art.....after it's been published? SACRILEGE!!!!!
Iris Stings - ANS 7 final artanother one that doesn't work for me.
another one that doesn't work for me.
although Zeleznik does nice interior portions of the wacky - mimicking the product logo, interesting characters, etc., the lack of precision, or to put it bluntly, the sloppiness, of the box sides and especially the box top drive me crazy (specifically the unequal depth of the flap on either side of the tab). I'm guessing a freehand painting technique without using masking tape?
both Iris Stings and Crispux had to be cleaned up by topps for the cards, by both trimming the sides to make them straight as well as the corners to make them sharp. the cards look better than the art.
I didn't notice that until you pointed it out but those border edges are not straight at all.I would have gone for this one if the character looked funny. You can design a guy to look pretty silly in this situation but this guy looks like a monster.
I would have gone for this one if the character looked funny. You can design a guy to look pretty silly in this situation but this guy looks like a monster.
I would have gone for this one if the character looked funny. You can design a guy to look pretty silly in this situation but this guy looks like a monster.
I remember liking Mark's rough much better on this one. You need to see the character's iris in a gag for IRIS stings.It's about burning eyes but I wouldn't show burnt eyes. You don't open your eyes when they're burning. You jam your palms against them and scream. Suds would fly everywhere. And I'd show more of the upper body. The character needs to look like a skinny dope. Not a character you would fear when losing his temper.
It's about burning eyes but I wouldn't show burnt eyes. You don't open your eyes when they're burning. You jam your palms against them and scream. Suds would fly everywhere. And I'd show more of the upper body. The character needs to look like a skinny dope. Not a character you would fear when losing his temper.But at some point after getting the soap in your eye you open it and see the throbbing blood vessels. That's the point in time I want to see captured for Wacky posterity. After all, what's the key to comedy?
I remember liking Mark's rough much better on this one. You need to see the character's iris in a gag for IRIS stings.I had to go look that up in an old thread, just to refresh my memory, and figured I repost it here
I had to go look that up in an old thread, just to refresh my memory, and figured I repost it here
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Good idea, but it doesn't look like it worked for some reason. Here's the link you provided for others to click on:huh. I could see it fine, but I guess it was just stuck in my cache. I went back and altered it so it can be seen.
huh. I could see it fine, but I guess it was just stuck in my cache. I went back and altered it so it can be seen.
I don't understand why postimage links can't be reposted as an image? I've given up dealing with that aggravating site. tinypic all the way.
Tonight, January 10th, 2011, i will put this sketch card up on ebay for a 5 day auction.
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Tonight, January 10th, 2011, i will put this sketch card up on ebay for a 5 day auction.
Octivia - ANS 7 final artI wonder who that m***m person is? They have been buying a lot of art over the last few months.
But at some point after getting the soap in your eye you open it and see the throbbing blood vessels. That's the point in time I want to see captured for Wacky posterity. After all, what's the key to comedy?My thoughts exactly. My hope was to draw that guy's eye so someone looking at it could almost feel it stinging.
Thanx for the tip. But I got too much stuff other stuff to do. It'll go up tonight at 11 est.
I can't figure out how to edit the text. Here's the link. Somebody ask me if it's an official ANS 7 sketch card....and I will answer yes. and the answer will post on the page. http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacky-Packages-Color-Sketch-Card-Jay-Lynch-Sore-Mel-/260720054636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb420516c
My thoughts exactly. My hope was to draw that guy's eye so someone looking at it could almost feel it stinging.I explored this concept last night just for the hell of it. Here's a couple of sketches I came up with.
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I explored this concept last night just for the hell of it. Here's a couple of sketches I came up with.
My thoughts exactly. My hope was to draw that guy's eye so someone looking at it could almost feel it stinging.Hey Mark. I hope you don't mind me taking a whack at visualizing your character. I need excuses to get me to sit down and practice drawing and I thought this was a good subject.
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Hey Mark. I hope you don't mind me taking a whack at visualizing your character. I need excuses to get me to sit down and practice drawing and I thought this was a good subject.No, I don't mind at all. It's fun to see how different artists interpret things.
I don't understand why postimage links can't be reposted as an image?I was stumped by this once when I tried to move an image from one thread to another. I think I figured out the issue and how to do it.
I wonder who that m***m person is? They have been buying a lot of art over the last few months.This guy only won two pieces going back as far as September. Octivia and Iris Stings.
This guy only won two pieces going back as far as September. Octivia and Iris Stings.
This is the only link address of the three that works for posting an image. This technique works for transferring images from one post to another, and you can convert a non-expando image to an expando image if you want to, like I’ve done to Jay’s post above.except that didn't work.... I'll I see is a blue box with a question mark.
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I think he also bought some Halloween PC art. I think he bought about 6 or more since I've been watching the art auctions. How would you know he only bought those 2 pieces? If you look at feedback, Topps only leaves feedback if you leave it first.I checked through Topps feedback history. None of the feedback numbers matched going back to September. Maybe he doesn't ever leave feedback. Damn I hate this secrecy ebay puts on the bidders.
except that didn't work.... I'll I see is a blue box with a question mark.It shows for me, at least right now.
for whatever reason, it doesn't look like postimage links can be re-used to show images. just the link.
I have been buying some of the originals lately and have been out bid by this M***M at the last minute. Just from what I have seen he has bought, Octiva, Stings, Wife Out, Stink, Shark, and Hide.
I have been buying some of the originals lately and have been out bid by this M***M at the last minute. Just from what I have seen he has bought, Octiva, Stings, Wife Out, Stink, Shark, and Hide.
I thought that the random IDs that eBay displays on the bidding history were just that, "random". How are you sure that M***M on one auction is the same M***M on a different auction?
I wonder if he is the infamous Eric Roberts?
Not the dread Pirate Roberts?!?!? (said the guy who just watched PRINCESS BRIDE last weekend).Let's not start any rumors. Eric has no interest in modern Wackys and even if he did he'd only go for "A" titles.
Thats what it looks like to me as well after poking around eBay for a few minutes.
No, I don't mind at all. It's fun to see how different artists interpret things.Cool! Because I really wanted to take one more whack at this to see if I can do it.
Cool! Because I really wanted to take one more whack at this to see if I can do it.
I'd lessen the mouth recede as it overpowers the eye. It makes him look like a zombie. If the top of your mouth is curling back like that then the bottom of your mouth is pulling up (and vice versa) so both would not be receding that dramatically. You can make both curl but you have to try to do so. If he was freaking out in pain I'd think only one end would curl.I think what's distracting is that he's so toothy. I'd curl his lower lip over his teeth. Other than that I think this guy sells it.
I think what's distracting is that he's so toothy. I'd curl his lower lip over his teeth. Other than that I think this guy sells it.
HiSea - Old School final artAgreed, this is an awesome title, not surprised it sold so high. Is this the record for Old School art?
This one is great. The fish may be dead but it's a great character.
Ginger Algae - ANS 7 final artDo you happen to have all of these in a file that you could send me? I want to list them all on my website so we can see history of prices organized by series.
Snoresages - ANS 7 final art
Do you happen to have all of these in a file that you could send me? I want to list them all on my website so we can see history of prices organized by series.Yeah, I'll email it to you.
Agreed, this is an awesome title, not surprised it sold so high. Is this the record for Old School art?
Anyone here the winner? I hope they're not in New York - sales tax will add $236.37 to the total!!I was the winner. No sales tax.
I was the winner. No sales tax.Congrads bud, that is a great pick up! In case you haven't seen email yet, I was able to receive your email with the large attachment in good order, thanks!
I was the winner. No sales tax.
I was the winner. No sales tax.
Chickless - ANS 7 final art
The gag is pretty funny and the use of space is perfect. No clutter like most of the early ANS gags. ANS has gotten better over the years at being less cluttery. I know a lot of today's real product designs get a bit cluttery but that doesn't mean Wacky's have to copy their mistakes. Wacky Packs have artistic license.
I put in a snipe but it obviously didn't make a dent at the closing price. Good job! Too bad I was at a work awards banquet to jack my bid up more. I just got to my room to see the results. I really liked that piece. I thought to be one of the best in the series. Oh well. There's always tomorrow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Series-7-Original-Art-RedBull-/110638879200?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c29751e0What the hey?!?
What the hey?!?same seller. but this time no gold card. what up wit dat?
Look at the winner
Bidder Information
Bidder: r***-( 1 )
Feedback: 100%Positive
Item description: 2010 Topps Wacky Packages Series 7 Original Art RedBull
Bids on this item: 2
30-Day Summary
Total bids: 15
Items bid on: 11
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 20%
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 0
Looks to me like he is just running up the price?
By the way, notice the fucking lettering is falling off already.it makes it look vintage...
it makes it look vintage...This and another recent Bunk piece had faulty lettering but there have been issues with a few other Wacky paintings of recent years. I wouldn't want Topps to force everyone into a small box of creative limitations but they need to find out how the artist plans to assemble his work before committing to it. That is, if they plan to sell it. They know there is a market for the paintings so they need to give consideration to quality control for that market at least as much as they give to their cards and stickers.
yeah, kind of sad. Both of them were Bunk pieces, right? Raven Bran and 'Fraid. Or were there more?
The auction is only at a dollar so far so I don't see that he's running up the price. He is very hot for Wacky art though. He ran me up to 3K on Hi-Sea.I agree, I don't see him biding on things now. I was referring to him running up the price on original art, I saw that 3K you paid. It looked to me he ran it up about 2K >(
Don't a certain number of the paintings get returned to the artists?Yes but that's beside the point.
Oh yeah, he's also cherry picking the postcard series and Old School. I guess Topps doesn't care about the fact that these paintings need to sell to keep the product going. Maybe he's just displaying them in the office for a little while or maybe he's stealing them. Someone should look into it.
Plan - are you just speculating that someone is lifting artwork, or do you have some specific information that leads you to believe this, as opposed to some other explanation.My inside info is specific. Topps is not keeping choice pieces. An exec who recently got involved in the brand is clipping art for himself, having them framed and hanging them in his office. He might just be borrowing it but if not then he's stealing.
I understand that, if you do have some inside information, you many not want to reveal specifics - but if you're speculating, based only upon the fact that select pieces are not being sold (or returned), I hope you'd indicate that. Based on that fact alone, I think there are other plausible explanations.
I spent five years handling artwork daily as an editor on the X-Men, and personally, if I had thought that someone at the office was stealing that work - they'd be scum. Beyond stealing, my boss cemented the idea that as an editor, even asking an artist for a page (a fairly common practice among editors, I believe) was unethical, because as freelancers, they'd feel pressure to give it up, and giving that artwork to an editor was possibly taking food off their table. Due to that ethical line, I didn't end up with much of any artwork from the books I oversaw - I did get a few unsolicited birthday gifts over the years, I'm happy to say.
There was only one instance of original artwork theft during my years at Marvel, and sadly, the culprit was a thirty-something freelancer who would often visit the offices, looking for work. Little did we know he was availing the hospitality to steal. It was pretty messed-up.
Not a pleasant memory.
There has been no theft of pieces. Topps buys the art from us. After that they can sell them, hang them up, store them away or even burn them if they wanted to. Some executive recently decided to hang some up at the offices so he took a bunch of pieces from each series. I expect that to continue for a bit until he has enough or they figure out they are better off selling them. I managed to talk my way into keeping Just for Wolfmen and Ghoul Scouts which originally were going to be taken. It's bad for the artists because we may not get back a piece we really wanted and it's bad for the fans in that those pieces won't end up in their hands. However, it's hard to complain when it's their property to do as they please.They ARE the property of Topps. Not the property of any particular employee of Topps. If there's a guy who's taking advantage of his position over there then maybe word should get around. If not then who cares.
They ARE the property of Topps. Not the property of any particular employee of Topps. If there's a guy who's taking advantage of his position over there then maybe word should get around. If not then who cares.
My inside info is specific. Topps is not keeping choice pieces. An exec who recently got involved in the brand is clipping art for himself, having them framed and hanging them in his office. He might just be borrowing it but if not then he's stealing.
If those are the facts then all is well with the world. I just wanted to put out what I've been hearing from various sources.
Here's my latest acquisition. Yeah it's the real thing.
Ahhhh... this explanation, along with Dave's, clarifies things. Thanks for expanding a bit.I'd like to know what the standard is too. I would think the artists don't get to keep much of their art now that most companies know there's a market for that stuff and know how to tap it. That's why more artists should try launching their own publications.
This reminds me how important the work of Neal Adams and many others were in the 1970's, when they fought to make it standard that comic book original artwork be returned to the artists who created it. Heck, I've got pals who worked on the X-Men (and other books) who paid for their homes with the proceeds gained from their art returns. I know for a lot of guys, the freelance itself is only half of their figured income.
For those of you guys that create works for publications and other commercial endeavors - what's the norm these days? I suspect that many companies keep the artworks they commission for publication, but I'm not sure.
If those are the facts then all is well with the world. I just wanted to put out what I've been hearing from various sources.
Here's my latest acquisition. Yeah it's the real thing.
If those are the facts then all is well with the world. I just wanted to put out what I've been hearing from various sources.Nice pick up. This piece has made its rounds as I believe it was in the Frank Cali collection then I believe matt or the matt/greg combo collection owned it. I assume you picked it up from them unless it had changed hands since they had it. I don't recall who Frank had gotten it from, possibly Phil Carpenter?
Here's my latest acquisition. Yeah it's the real thing.
Nice pick up. This piece has made its rounds as I believe it was in the Frank Cali collection then I believe matt or the matt/greg combo collection owned it. I assume you picked it up from them unless it had changed hands since they had it. I don't recall who Frank had gotten it from, possibly Phil Carpenter?The lineage of Hyde's Rox goes like this;
Hyde's Rox is beyond superb! Is any of the lettering Letraset or is it all hand painted?The small lettering appears to be letraset. Moonshine appears drawn and Hyde's Rox is painted. Most Wacky art has damaged lettering. This is one of the few that doesn't.
The small lettering appears to be letraset. Moonshine appears drawn and Hyde's Rox is painted. Most Wacky art has damaged lettering. This is one of the few that doesn't.I has never heard this before, maybe I have been lucky as only a few of the pieces I have owned have had damaged lettering. Do you have some stastitics on this?
I has never heard this before, maybe I have been lucky as only a few of the pieces I have owned have had damaged lettering. Do you have some stastitics on this?I got this info from Greg. I don't know first hand how many originals have damaged text but judging by the condition of the LTL images I would think the 1970's letraset had a tough time surviving the Topps Vault. I'm sure they were stored and handled carelessly. I guess as long as your pieces are framed and not bashed around much they shouldn't deteriorate anymore. As far as I can tell only Tom Bunk is using letraset on today's Wacky art. There are better options for doing text now but he's an old school guy and probably set in his ways.
Looks like the M***M person won 2 of these. They have very high feedback. I wonder who that person is?
What's the deal with Topps matting and framing art now?I was more curious why they stopped. They'd been framing most of the art they were selling since 2003.
Topps frames are cheap and usually matted in poor taste and the "glass" is plexiglass. I look at it as better protection for the art while in transit. When it arrives I rip the frame apart and put it behind museum glass.
Here is a link to a scan I took before mailing it in
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zGeI4aKdG1Y/S4wlk3Uds_I/AAAAAAAAAH0/67Y-imsGYmw/s1600-h/klepto100.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zGeI4aKdG1Y/S4wlk3Uds_I/AAAAAAAAAH0/67Y-imsGYmw/s1600-h/klepto100.jpg)
The original is far more rich than their scan shows. You can see a better shot of it on my blog or flickr.
The typo IS there though. Yikes!
I just won the Snookered art. I can't believe it sold so cheap. I think it's an awesome wacky. I guess the collectors were sleeping. Booze and smokes have, for the most part, been great Wackys even though it was a 1991 wacky, although never published.
I just won the Snookered art. I can't believe it sold so cheap. I think it's an awesome wacky. I guess the collectors were sleeping. Booze and smokes have, for the most part, been great Wackys even though it was a 1991 wacky, although never published.Unfortunately the collectors do not sleep. (See below.)
Unfortunately the collectors do not sleep. (See below.)Right, I meant it wasn't in the 1991 run but later run with the book. Sort of a lost wacky.
By the way, Snookered was most definitely published. Read the listing.
Right, I meant it wasn't in the 1991 run but later run with the book. Sort of a lost wacky.Sea Monkeys are nostalgic for me. I had em. And those ads were all over the comics I read in the 70's. Plus, this is the only racist Wacky ever published. That gives it a certain historical value. I suspect others felt the same way having run the price up so high before I even stepped in. The art isn't all that amazing but neither was the original product label. I seem to be scoring all the Sea gags lately. Sea Honkies. Seagerms. Hi-Sea.
I noticed you won that auction and it went pretty high. I like the art but I don't like the title for some reason. I thought Snookered would go pretty high also. I think the gag is great! I put in a snipe of $670 and couldn't believe I got it for $440. I really didn't think I had a shot at $670. I see Granny Hairs went for under $400. I'm not a big fan of that one but it's still really low for Wacky art.
Sea Monkeys are nostalgic for me. I had em. And those ads were all over the comics I read in the 70's. Plus, this is the only racist Wacky ever published.
Rotsa Root can certainly be considered racist.
Then how about this...Chech isn't racist. It's the actual name for the countryman. Fritz or Ruskie would be considered racial slurs for a Czech.
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Rotsa Root can certainly be considered racist.There were Wackys that were suggestive of racism. Rotsa Root spoofs an asian accent. But I wouldn't call it racist. Run Tony could be considered racist. But neither use racial slurs. I think it's why they refused to publish Sea Honkies in 1991. The fact that they published it for the book is not surprising. Right now it's socially unacceptable to mock any race EXCEPT for whites.
Right now it's socially unacceptable to mock any race EXCEPT for whites.
In spite of this, it's a safe bet we white folk are getting our race mocked far less than anyone else.Wow. What an arrogant racist thing to say.
There were Wackys that were suggestive of racism. Rotsa Root spoofs an asian accent. But I wouldn't call it racist. Run Tony could be considered racist. But neither use racial slurs. I think it's why they refused to publish Sea Honkies in 1991.Sea Honkies was part of a batch of John Pound paintings that were intended for the next series to follow the published 1991 set. Whether it would have made the final checklist or not is hard to say.
Sea Honkies was part of a batch of John Pound paintings that were intended for the next series to follow the published 1991 set. Whether it would have made the final checklist or not is hard to say.Cool. Thanks for the info. I assumed because the art is dated 2/91 that it was for the first series.
I've been a big fan of Sea Honkies since I first saw the pencil art on John Pound's web site back in 2000 or so. I bought the pencil art from him: http://www.hipsteria.com/images/wp92_sea_honkies_pencil.jpg
Along with the pencils, he sent a color photocopy of the final piece. That photocopy was the basis of the bootleg Sea Honkies sticker in the first Lost Wackys set.
Cool. Thanks for the info. I assumed because the art is dated 2/91 that it was for the first series.
| Date | Title | Number |
| Apr 90 | Antenmann's pencil art | n/a |
| May 90 | Plop on Pop | n/a |
| May 90 | Antenmann's finished art | n/a |
| Date | Title | Number |
| Jan 91 | Mumps shoes | JP1 |
| Jan 91 | Gravestones | JP2 |
| Jan 91 | Lame Boy | JP3.1 |
| Feb 91 | Choperation | JP4 |
| Feb 91 | Sludgsicle | JP5 |
| Feb 91 | Ghoul Talk | JP6 |
| Feb 91 | Sea Honkies | JP7 |
| Feb 91 | Sickey Mouse | JP8 |
| ? | Gormel Scary Kitchen | ? |
| Mar 91 | Smellio's | JP10 |
| Mar 91 | Richie Retch | JP11 |
| Date | Title | Number |
| ? | Unlucky Dog | ? |
| May 91 | Welt's | ? |
| May 91 | Little Barmaid | ? |
| Jun 91 | Scare Bears | JP4 |
| Jun 91 | Shebad | JP5 |
| Jun 91 | Rookie Crisp (pencils only) | JP6 |
| Jun 91 | Orangenie (pencils only) | JP7 |
| Jun 91 | Wide Casket (pencils only) | JP8 |
| Jun 91 | Polly-O-No (pencils only) | JP9 |
Wow. What an arrogant racist thing to say.
Here's where I really show my nerd colors. The timeline below is based on research that I did after I found out about the lost 1990s series. I was fascinated by the idea that Topps had commissioned about two additional series' worth of Wacky art that had languished unseen for years. By now we've seen most of it, but at the time (around 2002, 2003) the only hint was the few pencil pieces that Pound had on his web site.dang, those are some great nerd colors to show.
Pound had dated and/or numbered most of his contributions to each series.
Right now it's socially unacceptable to mock any race EXCEPT for whites.
Truer words have not been spoken!!!We need Dirty Harry back!! :] :]
Sea Honkies was conceived, designed and published by white guys. To think it's racist is being overly-sensitive.Nobody here is calling it offensive. But "honkies" is a racial slur no matter how you slice it.
Nobody here is calling it offensive. But "honkies" is a racial slur no matter how you slice it.
It's an inoffensive racial slur? Not once in my life did I feel threatened or bothered by that term, especially if another white guy said it. But that's just me.
What would be offensive is if a white person went up to an Asian person and started talking in cliche Asian accent.
It's an inoffensive racial slur? Not once in my life did I feel threatened or bothered by that term, especially if another white guy said it. But that's just me.
What would be offensive is if a white person went up to an Asian person and started talking in cliche Asian accent.
Fine. You can classify honky however you want but honky is a racial slur and that is a stone cold fact. Look it up. Just because you're not offended by it, that doesn't change the meaning of the word. You can call me a wop and I wouldn't be offended. Does that mean wop is no longer a racial slur? Do we have to go on like this?
I get what you mean. Honky is a racial slur on a Wacky, I can't argue that.
But I think the source, the context and the intent matter. I don't think the band NWA is being racist against blacks by using the n-word, a racial slur. And since I'm half Italian, maybe I could call you a wop!
So, while I do agree that it's the only Wacky that contains a racial slur, in my opinion Rosta Root is more racist.
So, I'm done. It's up to you if we "go on like this."
I see where you're coming from. I think we agree on the origin of the word and that it doesn't really offend too many people unless it's said with racial hate backing it. And even then it might not hurt. The word itself is harmless. It's about the intention behind it. I could do a harmless Rotsa Root characterization without offending an overly sensitive chinese fella, assuming he's not overly sensitive. Or I can do it in a mocking ridiculing way with the intent to hurt him. Like Carlin always said, it's not the word. It's the intention. People lose sight of that fact and I think we both just arrived at that conclusion. I'm sure Jason is onboard too. I know he's not racist. He's just a crazy kraut.
dang, those are some great nerd colors to show.
do you also happen to have the art #'s for the pieces he did in the released '91 set?
I just won this. I wasnt going to bid but this looks so cool. I have to see it in person. The way he did the gloss on this is fantastic. It does look good in the picture anyway. I really wanted the Ragetty ann but I only put in a bid of $950. Anyway, it's not my fav. but I think it will look cool.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=140530186846
Thanks! It just looks painted so well and large that, as I've said, have to see this in person. Even when I get it I don't know how I can take a picture to show how good it really is on our forum.Good score. How does it feel to pay $687 for a big Wacky painting after paying $1000 each for sketch cards?
Good score. How does it feel to pay $687 for a big Wacky painting after paying $1000 each for sketch cards?
Need some advice - I just got home and opened the Rat Guard painting. The artist used some computer lettering. One part of the lettering is coming off where it says Rodent Deodorant. Even though it's framed and matted you can see it has come loose from the bottom of the lettering. Overall it's not bad but it could come completely off. I'm not sure what to do such as send it back to Topps for either a refund or to fix it.Are you sure it's peeling? The artist printed his text on an acetate overlay so you might be seeing space between the overlay and the the painting. I hope they told the artist overlays are a bad idea for Topps art.
Any help would be great.
Thanx!
Are you sure it's peeling? The artist printed his text on an acetate overlay so you might be seeing space between the overlay and the the painting. I hope they told the artist overlays are a bad idea for Topps art.It sure is lifted on the bottom. I can tell by holding the frame at an angle. I'll try and take a picture.
Need some advice - I just got home and opened the Rat Guard painting. The artist used some computer lettering. One part of the lettering is coming off where it says Rodent Deodorant. Even though it's framed and matted you can see it has come loose from the bottom of the lettering. Overall it's not bad but it could come completely off. I'm not sure what to do such as send it back to Topps for either a refund or to fix it.
Any help would be great.
Thanx!
It sure is lifted on the bottom. I can tell by holding the frame at an angle. I'll try and take a picture.Were you able to get a photo?
Sorry, I put it on my wall and haven't taken a picture. It's really good so it hasnt been an issue. How much did the Hunks go for? I thought it was aroun $880 but can't remember. Im pissed that I lost on the KalYou were unaware that some Wacky collectors were sensitive? Seriously?
Kant art. I think mark is upset about this art section soo that is why there hasn't been any update of this thread. I don't know why but I will post the art auction closes. I think his pride was hurt for whatever reason. I didnt realize that some wacky collectors were so sensitive. I now realize most are so I will list the auctions.
You were unaware that some Wacky collectors were sensitive? Seriously?
The real reason I stopped listing the auctions is because by listing auction results we're adding to the hype and creating competition. If you expect to ever win a particularly nice piece you're going to reduce your odds if you promote the auctions here. I suggest making a post once in awhile if you want to show your latest acquisition but keep the auction results quiet.
Sorry about that Brad, I didn't know you were bidding on Kal. I have to say that this one makes me laugh every time I look at it so I had to buy it. I will post a picture of the Kal art when I receive it next week :D
No, not my first. I own Ditz, Mouse Mix, Wiiz,and Raven Bran from the more resent wacky's. I agree with you on the originals! I am liking them more and more and based on the cost I defiantly prefer them over anything else, which makes it hard to spend a lot of money on sketch cards verse originals. This is one reason I have limited what I am spending on sketch cards and plan to pick up more paintings.
No, not my first. I own Ditz, Mouse Mix, Wiiz,and Raven Bran from the more resent wacky's. I agree with you on the originals! I am liking them more and more and based on the cost I defiantly prefer them over anything else, which makes it hard to spend a lot of money on sketch cards verse originals. This is one reason I have limited what I am spending on sketch cards and plan to pick up more paintings.
I generally can't spend more than $1600 for a painting
I bet you can! Are you trying to maintain the illusion of having self control? :]
Just won the Hagnut art. I love the monsters and witches.
These damn paintings are addicting. I just love looking at them because they are so perfect!
Wow man, don't run out of money before the end of the year! We have more series coming!I don't plan on it but thanks for looking out for me :d030:
It looks Great!!
(http://s4.postimage.org/2f8cokkv8/P5030045.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2f8cokkv8/)
Why is it sideways? Can you center it? I had problems with some phone pix too. I love the art but no pictures will do them justice as seeing them in person. No one will know until they own their own artWacky art ain't so great. The sketch cards are the dope. I suggest everyone go back to paying top dollar and grab all the sketch cards you can. Wackys won't be in publication forever!
I agree, everyone should start buying sketch cards and not art, you don't want the art you want sketch cards. :-\
Wacky art ain't so great. The sketch cards are the dope. I suggest everyone go back to paying top dollar and grab all the sketch cards you can. Wackys won't be in publication forever!
Yes! And also, everyone keep focusing on current wacky material. Vintage items like display boxes, unopened packs and wrappers are really just old junk not worth pursuing.
Yes! And also, everyone keep focusing on current wacky material. Vintage items like display boxes, unopened packs and wrappers are really just old junk not worth pursuing.
I won the Grave Nuts auction last night. I can't believe they didn't auction it before. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend but it has always been a fave of mine. The description says it's framed and matted but the picture doesn't show that so I sure hope it looks good.They did sell it before. I paid $511 for it a year ago on ebay. The painted paper was starting to come unglued from the thicker board it was mounted to. I saw no way of fixing it so I got a refund from Topps. I'd be real curious to see what it looks like now.
I now have the PC art for Stake 5, Mike & Yikes, & now Grave Nuts.
The only artist I'm missing is Saunders...LOL
I can't wait to see the larger size of Grave Nuts compared to the small card. Should be very special!
They did sell it before. I paid $511 for it a year ago on ebay. The painted paper was starting to come unglued from the thicker board it was mounted to. I saw no way of fixing it so I got a refund from Topps. I'd be real curious to see what it looks like now.
Interesting. It states it's framed now. I wonder if they just sealed it up? What should I look for?I won it in June of '09. After a few weeks I noticed bubbles appearing over the surface occurring between the layers of paper. When I pressed them down they popped back up every time. It was quickly getting worse so I knew I had to get rid of it. If Topps found a way of fixing it then the fuckers should have offered it back to me first. If they didn't fix it then it's not going to look so great. I had the same problem with Gloomy Bears and recently they resold that. Framing it can't do anything to help the problem because the glass should not touch the surface. Check the surface for lumps.
I won it in June of '09. After a few weeks I noticed bubbles appearing over the surface occurring between the layers of paper. When I pressed them down they popped back up every time. It was quickly getting worse so I knew I had to get rid of it. If Topps found a way of fixing it then the fuckers should have offered it back to me first. If they didn't fix it then it's not going to look so great. I had the same problem with Gloomy Bears and recently they resold that. Framing it can't do anything to help the problem because the glass should not touch the surface. Check the surface for lumps.
I'm glad I never got into art. 8 or 9 years ago, the vintage art was extremely hot, and I saw a lot of people mortgage their entire collections to buy one piece of art. I'm talking about giving up beautiful display box collections, full boxes, unopened packs, all kinds of hard to find vintage items. I just never understood it, but I always took advantage of it to pick up the nicest stuff people sold to buy art. For whatever reason, the vintage art craze seems to be gone now. I still don't quite understand what happened.
Yeah, it was definitely very dramatic. I wish the old Delphi forum was still up just for the Jail-O art thread.
What about the Dull art story? Wasn't that one of the ones that caused problems? I think someone told me that one is what ultimately drove Jeff Weiss out of the hobby?
I won it in June of '09. After a few weeks I noticed bubbles appearing over the surface occurring between the layers of paper. When I pressed them down they popped back up every time. It was quickly getting worse so I knew I had to get rid of it. If Topps found a way of fixing it then the fuckers should have offered it back to me first. If they didn't fix it then it's not going to look so great. I had the same problem with Gloomy Bears and recently they resold that. Framing it can't do anything to help the problem because the glass should not touch the surface. Check the surface for lumps.
I won it in June of '09. After a few weeks I noticed bubbles appearing over the surface occurring between the layers of paper. When I pressed them down they popped back up every time. It was quickly getting worse so I knew I had to get rid of it. If Topps found a way of fixing it then the fuckers should have offered it back to me first. If they didn't fix it then it's not going to look so great. I had the same problem with Gloomy Bears and recently they resold that. Framing it can't do anything to help the problem because the glass should not touch the surface. Check the surface for lumps.
Problems like this, and peeling lettering, do make me think three or four times before spending a lot of money on art. I'm also not inclined to go for a painting that's missing text because it was added to the final Wacky by computer.Just those two. But I did see another piece someone else had by another artist that had the same problem occurring. Every Wacky artist has his own methods. It takes a lot of time and money to learn which artists use techniques that can quickly deteriorate. I'm around my 25th Wacky painting.
Are there any other pieces you had to return?
Dude,Same problem with the Gloomy art. It's not the postcard art in general. It's how the individual pieces were put together. The same thing may be occurring with ANS art. None of Dave Gross' work is put together this way. I paid $619 for Gloomy a few years ago. Looks like you paid $560. It's funny how diverse the auction results can turn out for the same pieces. This really goes to show that there is no set value for Wacky art. It's all about who's in the market at that time and how much they're willing to spend.
What did you happen to pay fro Gloomy Bears?? Did that one have the SAME problem?? Looks like it was the painting and the backing coming apart NOT the painting itself? is that correct?? Couldn't Topps have fixed that by readhering a new backing with better glue?? It wasn't the paint that was bubbling was it??
This was found with the PC Art only? I have OLDS art which looks amazing no problems - as Dave has stated it was all painted not 'pressed'
Definitely thanks for the info...you would think Topps would have either fixed it and sent it back to you or mentioned it in their NEW auction - seems a bit 'slim shady' - given the fact that Brad paid so much more for a so-called 'fixed one' ??
I'm glad I never got into art. 8 or 9 years ago, the vintage art was extremely hot, and I saw a lot of people mortgage their entire collections to buy one piece of art. I'm talking about giving up beautiful display box collections, full boxes, unopened packs, all kinds of hard to find vintage items. I just never understood it, but I always took advantage of it to pick up the nicest stuff people sold to buy art. For whatever reason, the vintage art craze seems to be gone now. I still don't quite understand what happened. Maybe it's just that no desirable pieces come to market anymore now that Topps Vault has run dry?I've heard a few war stories from the early Saunders art craze. I'm glad that has all passed. But the story that left the biggest impression on me was the one about the guy who bought a lot of Wacky art early on, dirt cheap, and had them stuffed in a shoe box under his sofa in his double-wide. He got them cheap so he treated them like it. We're talking major titles too.
I love the art, but I stopped buying after I discovered these "problems".Which pieces do you have?
Same problem with the Gloomy art. It's not the postcard art in general. It's how the individual pieces were put together. The same thing may be occurring with ANS art. None of Dave Gross' work is put together this way. I paid $619 for Gloomy a few years ago. Looks like you paid $560. It's funny how diverse the auction results can turn out for the same pieces. This really goes to show that there is no set value for Wacky art. It's all about who's in the market at that time and how much they're willing to spend.
So Gloomy was the same way and you sent it back and Topps resold it to Hustler? I'm confused because he didn't day he owned it but you know the price he paid. Did Topps fix it?I don't know for sure that Hustler bought Gloomy. I figured he asked because he bought it.
I'm really nervous now. I really like the piece but if it's bubbled it would really suck. It must be the board Neil is painting on.
Neil, you need to chime in.
Here's the pieces a few months after I bought them. If you look closely you'll see waviness around the surfaces. This is the watercolor paper de-laminating from the card stock it was glued to. When they peel along the edge it's an easy fix. But when they bubble up without any access point then I have no idea how to fix it. I couldn't just peel the whole page off because where the glue stuck, it stuck very well. I don't trust spray glue. Several artists use it to laminate their watercolor paper to a thick card stock. I've suggested they take their paper to an art shop that uses a hot press to laminate the sheets together. A thin film of plastic is placed between the watercolor paper and the card stock. Then it's set in a heat press and the heat melts the plastic sheet, fusing the paper layers together forever. You even have the option of putting it back into the press and re-heating it to separate the sheets without any mess. It's 100% reliable and will last forever. I don't know what the lifetime is for spray glue.
I don't know for sure that Hustler bought Gloomy. I figured he asked because he bought it.
It's not the paint. It's the spray glue that fails on some pieces.
I love the art, but I stopped buying after I discovered these "problems".Is it a secret which Wacky paintings you own?
My ReSee's Peepers art has the same problem, but it's just along one edge, not under the image. What's the "easy fix" you mentioned?I meant it's an easy fix for anyone who is comfortable working with craft projects. You can inject glue into the slits and press it flat. The thing to be careful about is not letting the overflow of glue run over the front of the art or the object you weigh it down with. You can find hobby syringes at art supply stores and hobby shops. Offhand I don't know which glue to recommend. I think something appropriate for paper like Elmer's.
I bought it from the dude that won the auction..he's sending it to me..should have it next week...hope its not a problem...i might be SOL!! but it is Framed...we'll see if the glass is touching though...thx Plan9 for all the insight!! Pls post a picture of the IOU art - would be cool...I will post Gloomy when I get it...
That and much more. Before they go in the frame I'll study the whole thing front and back. I look for clues of it's past. Things like the stamp that says "Please return to Topps", pencil marks, fingerprints, notes, whatever. I study the paint application to figure out the order of color layering. One thing I discovered about them is that he may have painted the borders first and he used a permanent paint on the borders, unlike the delicate water color paint of the image art. I had never seen IOU until around 2003 so the childhood connection isn't quite there with this piece. But it's got a lot more going on that I love. Three characters, a shapely femme painted by a master of pulp art, lots of details all around, and one of the very very few pieces of a class of Wacky art that can hardly be found anymore.
Must be delightful to look up on your wall and see such a wonderful piece of not only your own childhood, but a piece of pop culture history.
That and much more. Before they go in the frame I'll study the whole thing front and back. I look for clues of it's past. Things like the stamp that says "Please return to Topps", pencil marks, fingerprints, notes, whatever. I study the paint application to figure out the order of color layering. One thing I discovered about them is that he may have painted the borders first and he used a permanent paint on the borders, unlike the delicate water color paint of the image art. I had never seen IOU until around 2003 so the childhood connection isn't quite there with this piece. But it's got a lot more going on that I love. Three characters, a shapely femme painted by a master of pulp art, lots of details all around, and one of the very very few pieces of a class of Wacky art that can hardly be found anymore.
I also own the original Hyde's Rox art which was one of my favorite stickers as a kid. So that one satisfies the childhood connection. Greg doesn't want to sell anymore Saunders art so I don't know if or when I'll ever find another choice Saunders piece.
Or be willing to throw crazy enough money at someone to loosen their grip. :sad:
That's the problem. While Greg might relent someday, Eric Roberts will never be swayed by cash. The only hope is that his interest wanes, which is pretty unlikely.The weird thing is both IOU and Hyde's Rox were both owned by Eric previously. He let IOU go in a trade. He has, in the past, let pieces go and bought them back. I hear Eric is forming plans for a pop art museum that would include his Wacky art. I hope that works out. Until he does, there's no telling what might occur to put those pieces back into the public. That's the thing about the future. It's rarely predictable.
And Eric did just turn a nice $800,000 profit on Amazing Fantasy 15, so that should keep him in pocket money for awhile....
Thx for the picture and the cool strories...Is Eric Roberts..(not related to Julia?) the one that owns alot of Wacky art? More than Greg? how many pieces? He must be loaded?? does he have a website displaying them??
Thx for the picture and the cool strories...Is Eric Roberts..(not related to Julia?) the one that owns alot of Wacky art? More than Greg? how many pieces? He must be loaded?? does he have a website displaying them??I'm not sure Greg has such a big collection anymore unless you're talking strictly Saunders pieces. Eric has the most Saunders pieces. Brian Lambert has the next biggest OS collection. As far as ANS goes there's Kirk Daniels with a mountainous 80+ pieces and Gary Keller who's sitting on about 60 primo titles. Fortunately Gary doesn't seem to be buying anymore because he was bidding really high on everything. Dave Gross must have a sizable collection by now. Not sure how many pieces Simon and Hardymon have. Personally I prefer the sketch cards. They are the dope.
I just got in the Grave Nuts Art. Overall it looks really good in the frame and matte. I can see a little wave going through 'a' in Grave and 'u' in Nuts but nothing else. I probably should pull it out of the frame but I hate to do that because I don't know what problems I may have getting it back together.
Any thoughts?
Is the glass touching the Art?? I would not advise opening it...might do more damage
That and much more. Before they go in the frame I'll study the whole thing front and back. I look for clues of it's past. Things like the stamp that says "Please return to Topps", pencil marks, fingerprints, notes, whatever. I study the paint application to figure out the order of color layering. One thing I discovered about them is that he may have painted the borders first and he used a permanent paint on the borders, unlike the delicate water color paint of the image art. I had never seen IOU until around 2003 so the childhood connection isn't quite there with this piece. But it's got a lot more going on that I love. Three characters, a shapely femme painted by a master of pulp art, lots of details all around, and one of the very very few pieces of a class of Wacky art that can hardly be found anymore.Each year over the past several years, I have sold a piece of Saunders art. Monsterettes, Pollydent, Family Circuit have all moved along. Sorry Wrap and Rowdy will probably be the next two and eventually I will part with Hurts as I get requests every year to see if I am ready to sell it. I probably won't ever part with Satan Wrap as I do plan to keep one Saunders piece when all is said and done. My priorities have shifted so I don't have a need to hold all the pieces I had.
I also own the original Hyde's Rox art which was one of my favorite stickers as a kid. So that one satisfies the childhood connection. Greg doesn't want to sell anymore Saunders art so I don't know if or when I'll ever find another choice Saunders piece.
It's double matted and not touching the glass.If you don't mind the lifted spots then you're fine but watch to see if there's any additional lifting over the next few months. I've removed some of these Topps frames and you pretty much have to destroy it to get the art out.
If you don't mind the lifted spots then you're fine but watch to see if there's any additional lifting over the next few months. I've removed some of these Topps frames and you pretty much have to destroy it to get the art out.
Do they use decent frames and UV glass? I recall someone saying they considered the Topps framing just extra shipping safety, to be discarded upon receipt.Topps doesn't even use glass. It's just plexiglass. The frames and matting are pretty decent lately.
I wonder if Topps would accept an art return after their frame's been destroyed?
What the hell kind of matting is that?
eBay - 190553970818
What the hell kind of matting is that?LOL. yep, that's a bit ridiculous
eBay - 190553970818
LOL. yep, that's a bit ridiculous
I wonder if there is text in the upper left part of the art board that they are intentionally covering up
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqN,!icE3WqgGyO3BOGm!MW52Q~~0_3.JPG)
Hey, being we are in the Wacky Art topic, Plan-9 seems to be MIA.
I don't want to speak for him, but as I understand it, he's stepped back from forum participation. I'd speculate that he's putting even more time into his sculpting and his business.
For my own two cents, I think with any hobby, I think it's healthy to step back from time-to-time, and then perhaps return to it fresh, and with new perspective.
Dude,I don't care who collects sketch cards. I don't post anymore because I don't want to give or receive anymore aggravation.
I heard he was pissed off @ Brad...and all his OLDS2 sketch card buyin'...moving his discussion threads.. :-\ :-\
I don't care who collects sketch cards. I don't post anymore because I don't want to give or receive anymore aggravation.
Mark, since you are an artist, can you give us some idea as to why Topps would matte this so goofy?They send these paintings to a frame shop for matting. It looks like someone at the shop made a poor decision on how to matte this one. Even if there was something to hide they could have laid down some white matte over it before laying down the colored matte.
I heard he was pissed off @ Brad...and all his OLDS2 sketch card buyin'...
Many of us are in his boat
So your upset also that I have bought sketches? really?
I just want to chime in and say I'm happy anytime anyone buys Wackys, whether it be zillions of sketches, tons of base cards, gobs of inserts, a plethora of gold border cards, heaps of vintage stickers, stacks of new stickers, roomfuls of original art, truckloads of backpacks, whatever.
So your upset also that I have bought sketches? really?
By the way, getting back on track, I did win the Lice art. Can't wait to see it. Hopefully it will show up this week.
By the way I just ordered 30 more OLDS2 boxes so don't hate me too much....LOL
Do you think Lice would have gone for more if it had all the text on the painting?
I never noticed it was missing some text. I really don't think that is that big of deal. I buy art because of the characters and not so much the gag.
LOL. yep, that's a bit ridiculous
I wonder if there is text in the upper left part of the art board that they are intentionally covering up
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqN,!icE3WqgGyO3BOGm!MW52Q~~0_3.JPG)
Mike and Yikes at least had some cool character faces to make up for the missing text.
I just got home from vacation as saw these posts. I checked my scans and my signature, the date and "Wacky Packages series 7" is under that weird matting. No idea why they want to cover it up.
That is very odd. Every piece I have gotten so far has the artist sig within the matting. Very strange.
You know, I never really studied them that close. I just looked and it is missing some letting. I wonder why? Was the lettering added in through Photoshop or something when they created the cards?
Hopefully when Brad gets Lice he will be happy with the painting, it has far more depth than the scan shows. This was an early piece for me, i was using a board stock that soaked in too much paint, which made lettering VERY difficult. I have since learned better and newer pieces will reflect that. That being said, the quality of the main illustration did not suffer, just some text.
The art arrived this morning and it's beautiful! I just love the characters. It's going right next to the Mike and Yikes! I'm now a double Kirscht Art Family....LOLWELCOME TO THE CLUB
Check this one out original series fans:
http://www.thetoppsvault.com/featured1.html
What is up with this art? 190559664611
Sorry, just copying the auction number with iPad. It's Jowl-O
I swear I have seen this up for auction 3 times and the last time it sold was about a month ago. I think it sold but since it's not one that I'm interested with so I don't know if Topps keeps pulling it or if people are returning it.
Topps Vault is auctioning the art for Tutino's. I know they can't do anything about the extra "e" painted at the end of the word pyramid, but you'd think they could at least fix the wandering red "i" from pizza.........hilarious. kind of.
hilarious. kind of.
that wandering I is just ridiculous. wonder where the dot went?
I've noticed that over the past few months the same buyer is winning 95% of the Wacky original art auctions. His/her feedback rating is currently at 7344. Many of the auctions would have ended in a much more reasonable range of $400-$700 if not for this one bidder who has single handedly driven prices up resulting in thousands of extra dollars for Topps. It doesn't appear to be a Wacky collector because most collectors, even with deep pockets, would pick and choose the titles they like the best. This person is bidding on just about every single painting. Perhaps it's a dealer...but at the prices these paintings are selling for they'd have a really tough time flipping them to make a profit. It seems very bizarre to me??? I even checked Topps' feedback to learn more about this buyer but they haven't left a single feedback for Topps on at least 40 paintings won...very odd behavior going on here. :-\
This the culprit?No, that's Dave Gross.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-Topps-Wacky-Packages-ANS4-Plastic-Pickles-Original-Art-David-Gross-/390365629744?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae39acd30
Wacky art prices have been LOW for the past several months if you measure over the last 5 years. However, since summer they've mostly been listing 3rd rate titles that I wouldn't touch for any price. Good gags but a lot of bad artwork. Over the past two weeks a few better pieces have shown up and those are getting higher bids. Check out Rice Kreepies, ending tonight.
Now here's a piece I couldn't pass up. This one is great on every level. Art, gag, taglines, character, details, and even size. Dave painted it 8x10 which gives is such a worthy presence on the wall without overshadowing everything else. I don't recall who wrote the gag.
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Now here's a piece I couldn't pass up. This one is great on every level. Art, gag, taglines, character, details, and even size. Dave painted it 8x10 which gives is such a worthy presence on the wall without overshadowing everything else. I don't recall who wrote the gag.
Click to embiggen
(http://s8.postimage.org/ulx8ml9ox/polarspringsmall.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ulx8ml9ox/)
I'm putting Frankenbury up for auction tonight. The bonus box is to show scale.
I am by no means liquidating my collection. Just thinning a little and buying some other art.
(http://s7.postimage.org/801zgwjcn/Franken_Bury_sm.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/801zgwjcn/)
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Sorry Hustler, didn't meant to ignore your posts. I got Frankenbury and Polar Spring directly from the artists. I wavered in my feelings about Frankenbury but I bought it because I love the product and character and it's a high profile Wacky that I expect we'll see printed again in other forms. But I may start thinning out my Wacky art collection. I started collecting pulp art last summer and now, for me, Wacky art pales in comparison.
Sorry Hustler, didn't meant to ignore your posts. I got Frankenbury and Polar Spring directly from the artists. I wavered in my feelings about Frankenbury but I bought it because I love the product and character and it's a high profile Wacky that I expect we'll see printed again in other forms. But I may start thinning out my Wacky art collection. I started collecting pulp art last summer and now, for me, Wacky art pales in comparison.
Frankenbury is still available. The seller had a sob story. Just as well because it went way too cheap.oh? what did you tell them? ;)
Mark, i would love to see some of this Pulp Art.Here's a link to a blog that displays some pieces from my collection.
oh? what did you tell them? ;)I was confused by your post until I read it on the forum and saw "seller" highlighted. My goof!
Here's a link to a blog that displays some pieces from my collection.
http://groovyageofhorror.blogspot.com/2011/12/original-fumetti-cover-art.html
Why does it seem these women have trouble keeping their top on? :o
It's a condition knows as "Pulp Friction" .... causes then to rub right off.
Why does it seem these women have trouble keeping their top on? :oItalian pulp covers were less restrictive about nudity and horror in the 70's. It was a popular genre known as "sexy fumetti". By the 80's they had inspired a cinematic movement in Italy led by directors like Dario Argento and Lucio Fulchi. As for the old book covers, it's a genre of pulp art that is barely known in the states. At least so far. That's starting to change and I'm grabbing all I can with plans to publish my collection as a book.
Plan 9, If it is pulp art that you seek, Do a search for NOISHEL after midnight tonight on ebay. It's a one day auction, and it oughta go fast!I presume you mean midnight east coast time. I checked and found nothing so far. Is Noishel an artists name?
I presume you mean midnight east coast time. I checked and found nothing so far. Is Noishel an artists name?
(http://s17.postimage.org/dccoh80uz/Pizza_Hat.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dccoh80uz/)
My last two non-Wacky sketch card auctions end tonight. One is painted good. One is painted bad. Can anyone tell which is which? http://www.ebay.com/sch/jayzeyl/m.html?hash=item3cc129ea76&item=260938787446&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_trksid=p4340.l2562
Sounds like a trick question.... ;)
The nose sucker looks "more refined".
There's a sentence I doubt has ever been in print before in history. 8)
Or before I torch the unwanted little bastards. :'(
Don't hurt the little buggers...No no. Never. I feel sorry for their broken little hearts. They thought they would be welcomed by the fans open, loving arms. Instead, they were gawked at like mangy pound puppies. Poor things. They don't know from recessions and economies!
Still have "Gee Your Hair Smells Horrific" and "Head & Smolders".(See upper thread for images) Just listed "Miracle Growl" on ebay.Mircale Growl is a little bit busy but the art is fantastic and it totally as the feel of an original series wacky.
(http://s14.postimage.org/rz6ka7jfh/miracle_growl.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rz6ka7jfh/)
Mircale Growl is a little bit busy but the art is fantastic and it totally has the feel of an original series wacky.There's a genuine quality to the characters in this one that's hard to find in ANS. I think that's what makes it feel like a 70's piece.
There's a genuine quality to the characters in this one that's hard to find in ANS. I think that's what makes it feel like a 70's piece.
Mircale Growl is a little bit busy but the art is fantastic and it totally as the feel of an original series wacky.
True, albiet characters lifted right out of LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS.
Thanks for mentioning that. I had no idea until now there was a connection to the movie!You noticed my comment about the COA. I've had some people email me asking if certain ones came with COA's and if they didn't they wouldn't bid. If you need your art to come with a COA then you're utterly clueless about art.
I love Miracle Growl. What a great title. I’d click the Buy It Now button if it came with a COA :P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Wacky-Packages-ALL-NEW-SERIES-3-Original-Art-MIRACLE-GROWL-/180809996979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a191d9ab3
You noticed my comment about the COA. I've had some people email me asking if certain ones came with COA's and if they didn't they wouldn't bid. If you need your art to come with a COA then you're utterly clueless about art.
I could not agree more with you Mark.... The artwork speaks for itself. Saunders, Lynch, Pound, as well as the NEW Wacky artists, etc... all have their individual distinct styles. In addition, almost all Wacky art is signed these days, so that alone should be verification of authenticity. If someone is passionate about artwork, they should purchase it for the piece alone. An additional piece of paper, in my opinion, really means jack-squat.
Look at it this way... I do not believe Salvador Dali was issuing COA's with his pieces.
You noticed my comment about the COA. I've had some people email me asking if certain ones came with COA's and if they didn't they wouldn't bid. If you need your art to come with a COA then you're utterly clueless about art.
You noticed my comment about the COA. I've had some people email me asking if certain ones came with COA's and if they didn't they wouldn't bid. If you need your art to come with a COA then you're utterly clueless about art.
I would tend to agree with you.Oh God. I knew you'd show up for this. When I sell a piece with a Topps COA do you really think the buyer is going to add an addendum to it stating who he bought it from? When I wanted to know the lineage of my Saunders pieces all it took was an email from the seller. COA's associated with original art are bullshit. Published art, especially Wacky art, can be identified by comparing it to the sticker and cross checking the artist's signature. Now a COA with a duplicated item is something else but that's not what we're talking about.
At the same time, there is a kind of provenance that a Topps COA might add to the piece, no? It wouldn't stop me from buying, personally, but I do think there's a value to tracking where a piece has been and how it's changed hands. I find those stories are a big part of the appeal of certain things.
So, if you look at the COA as a part of that, rather than just something that "proves it is real", it is a little different. Of course, this doesn't sound like what these buyers were considering...
Oh God. I knew you'd show up for this. When I sell a piece with a Topps COA do you really think the buyer is going to add an addendum to it stating who he bought it from? When I wanted to know the lineage of my Saunders pieces all it took was an email from the seller. COA's associated with original art are bullshit. Published art, especially Wacky art, can be identified by comparing it to the sticker and cross checking the artist's signature. Now a COA with a duplicated item is something else but that's not what we're talking about.
As far as a means of "authentication", yeah, COA's are a kind of BS. Again, that's not what I'm talking about. Knowing that it came from the Topps vault auctions, if that's an aspect someone enjoys, and you're blind to not acknowledge that it has a value to many collectors, then a Topps COA has a kind of value."One thing I really enjoy about my Wacky painting is that it came with a Topps COA. I enjoy that. The COA signed by Jasperstein is so enjoyable. I wouldn't want the art without my Certificate of Provenance". Yeah, that's reality. I guess if the artists were the only source for art then the Certificate lovers would be shit out of luck. You're not helping people come to their senses with your devil's advocate crap. And unlike you, I don't waste time disguising my insults in passive aggressive blathering. I give it to you straight. You're a pain in my ass so piss off.
Or get mad at them for not buying, and call them idiots.
"One thing I really enjoy about my Wacky painting is that it came with a Topps COA. I enjoy that. The COA signed by Jasperstein is so enjoyable. I wouldn't want the art without my Certificate of Provenance". Yeah, that's reality. I guess if the artists were the only source for art then the Certificate lovers would be shit out of luck. You're not helping people come to their senses with your devil's advocate crap. And unlike you, I don't waste time disguising my insults in passive aggressive blathering. I give it to you straight. You're a pain in my ass so piss off.
All I was trying to point out was that, to collectors, things like a COA from Topps could actually have a value. Not everyone approaches collecting with the eye of an artist. You do, of course, but you are only one kind of collector. Some like our own Pall Maul, appreciate studying the minutiae of details most would overlook. I like the products they were based on.You're really twisting my statement like a freaking pretzel. Wanting a Topps COA is like wanting the shipping box because it has a Wacky logo on it. No big deal, collect what you want. Some people even collect toilet paper. But, as an example, when you base your Wacky purchase decision on whether or not the item comes in a shipping box with a Wacky logo then you've got a screw loose. Your argument against that point is so thin and trivial it holds not a drop of water. If you're so in agreement with me then why are you arguing with me and why are your posts growing exponentially? Complete with re-writes. The only time you ever post to me is when you want to argue or defend some poor faceless creature you think I've offended.
Why is bringing that up such a problem? I'm not questioning your values, and I'm not playing devil's advocate.
I'm pointing out something you seem to have missed: Many collectors care about things that don't interest you, and that you think have no value. Just as you care about things that others do not. That's a fact about collectible hobbies. Why ignore it or deride someone else's hobby tastes?
What's wrong with bringing up these facts?
How about this.... "Yes, you're right - COA's for original artwork are bullshit! Hot damn those people are idiots!"
Really, Plan... I totally get what you were saying. I just honestly thought you were missing a perfectly valid reason why ghe COA would have value.
What's next, deriding people for enjoying a gold border? "only thing I enjoy about this sticker is the gold border. I would put a good deal of time to assemble the set with the gold border.. Colored borders are entertaining to me, as is assembling a set of them. That's fun!"
Nothing wrong with enjoying something manufactured, in is hobby. You assembled a gold set... And I didn't call you a moron...
Can you see my point now?
You're really twisting my statement like a freaking pretzel. Wanting a Topps COA is like wanting the shipping box because it has a Wacky logo on it. No big deal, collect what you want. Some people even collect toilet paper. But, as an example, when you base your Wacky purchase decision on whether or not the item comes in a shipping box with a Wacky logo then you've got a screw loose. Your argument against that point is so thin and trivial it holds not a drop of water. If you're so in agreement with me then why are you arguing with me and why are your posts growing exponentially? Complete with re-writes. The only time you ever post to me is when you want to argue or defend some poor faceless creature you think I've offended.
You're wrong about my motivations and my reasoning, they are not as you describe them here. Not looking for a fight, just pointing out something you seemed to miss, and now seem determined to dismiss.I wasn't presenting a point for discussion or argument. I was making a statement. Others made some very sensible follow-ups to my statement but you have to stir the pot.
"Some people even collect toilet paper."
Exactly! Some people like me. Well, I have one -- the four roll 1970's Charmin package that the Wacky is based on.
And maybe because I do collect toilet paper, I am able to appreciate something you cannot. I was not trying to point out that you were deficient, I was trying to share my perspective.
I wish you wouldn't attack that. A COA, to a profound amount of collectors, is NOT the same as a shipping box. The market shows us that is a simple fact. Gold borders are not just a different ink and so on.
If you think my perspective, being different than yours, lacks value or validity... I would try to convince you otherwise. I don't have your artistic talent, but I still have things to contribute to this discussion.
I wasn't presenting a point for discussion or argument. I was making a statement. Others made some very sensible follow-ups to my statement but you have to stir the pot."And I highly doubt anyone is collecting COA's. "
And I highly doubt anyone is collecting COA's.
I would tend to agree with you."But you skipped over the best part" "No i didn't, i mentioned the bisque"
At the same time, there is a kind of provenance that a Topps COA might add to the piece, no? It wouldn't stop me from buying, personally, but I do think there's a value to tracking where a piece has been and how it's changed hands. I find those stories are a big part of the appeal of certain things.
So, if you look at the COA as a part of that, rather than just something that "proves it is real", it is a little different.*** Of course, this doesn't sound like what these buyers were considering...***
Hey all. I've listed my Wacky art for the series 7 sticker "Sweet N' Slow" on ebay.
Ever sell the "wolfman"??I did. Every Wacky piece I've listed has since been sold. I still have about a dozen pieces.
I did. Every Wacky piece I've listed has since been sold. I still have about a dozen pieces.
How many pieces have you sold off so far?? Were they good investments? did you make any money on the sales...or were they like the "Wolfman" - that really lost value (based on your admission)?? interested in the price points of original art....and LT value if any??I've sold about about 17 pieces. I took a few hits. Others sold for exactly what I wanted. I never thought they had short term investment potential. Possibly long term. But I'm into collecting pulp art now so I need mountains of cash for it. I've got about a dozen Wackys left including some Saunders pieces and very desirable post 2004 titles. I'll sell a few more eventually. What do you mean by "LT" value?
thx
I've sold about about 17 pieces. I took a few hits. Others sold for exactly what I wanted. I never thought they had short term investment potential. Possibly long term. But I'm into collecting pulp art now so I need mountains of cash for it. I've got about a dozen Wackys left including some Saunders pieces and very desirable post 2004 titles. I'll sell a few more eventually. What do you mean by "LT" value?
As I read his post, I think he means Long Term value.
I've sold about about 17 pieces. I took a few hits. Others sold for exactly what I wanted. I never thought they had short term investment potential. Possibly long term. But I'm into collecting pulp art now so I need mountains of cash for it. I've got about a dozen Wackys left including some Saunders pieces and very desirable post 2004 titles. I'll sell a few more eventually. What do you mean by "LT" value?
I see your point thx...make sure you offer up those others here first for us to get a crack at it..any Wacky Original Series Art in that dozen??( besides IOU - which I know cost you a ton:)))I don't know about the pulp market. I just know what I like. 8)
Big market is Pulp art?? 8)
Chickless belongs to Brad now.
Here's the next auction. It's a biggie.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180869507835
Hyde's Rox is sold.I think Chickless is a fantastic piece and if I was in the market at all to buy new art, I would have bought it in a hearbeat.
I think Chickless is a fantastic piece and if I was in the market at all to buy new art, I would have bought it in a hearbeat.
Hyde's Rox is sold.
Went for 8800 simoleons
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Hyde's Rox is sold.I just put Hurts and Rowdy on ebay as it is free listing fixed price day which means time to throw out auctions with high fixed prices with the purpose of soliticing private sales. I can't wait to watch the idiots comment on my high asking prices in effect showing off their cluelessness to the process. Already received an offer on Rowdy that is "in the ball park" of what I would sell it for.
I just put Hurts and Rowdy on ebay as it is free listing fixed price day which means time to throw out auctions with high fixed prices with the purpose of soliticing private sales. I can't wait to watch the idiots comment on my high asking prices in effect showing off their cluelessness to the process. Already received an offer on Rowdy that is "in the ball park" of what I would sell it for.
I just put Hurts and Rowdy on ebay as it is free listing fixed price day which means time to throw out auctions with high fixed prices with the purpose of soliticing private sales. I can't wait to watch the idiots comment on my high asking prices in effect showing off their cluelessness to the process. Already received an offer on Rowdy that is "in the ball park" of what I would sell it for.
Did you end up selling either of them?I have nothing to do with the band-ache painting you are asking about. My auctions for Rowdy and Hurts are still on ebay so I am not sure why you were curious if I ended up selling them yet given the auctions are still active. I have an offer on Rowdy that is in the ball park of what I want to receive but I have concerns about the integrity of the potential buyer hence it is still available.
I am confused about what the painting in this auction was done for
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WACKY-PACKAGES-BAND-ACHE-1ST-SERIES-FINAL-ART-PAINTING-BY-ARTIST-JAY-LYNCH-GPK-/220964118904?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33727ce178
Wacky Packages 1st series Band-Ache Art
Actual painting measures approximately 5” x 7 “
The painting was completed in 2007
Mr. Lynch has signed after Norman Saunders (The original 70's wacky creator and painter as a tribute to his work)
I have nothing to do with the band-ache painting you are asking about. My auctions for Rowdy and Hurts are still on ebay so I am not sure why you were curious if I ended up selling them yet given the auctions are still active. I have an offer on Rowdy that is in the ball park of what I want to receive but I have concerns about the integrity of the potential buyer hence it is still available.
I didn't realize the auctions are still live. I was just curious if they sold.
(The other question wasn’t related to your items, just a general question about what the art is, or why it was done. Maybe it was commissioned.)
Yes...with Clint that piece was certainly commissioned...he does a lot of commissioning with BIG Jay!! I am sure Jay can validate that as well....
Still, $3500 is way out of wack! I could see a couple hundred. I've got a Gadzooka one similar. Can't remember who I got it from now but it was around $200.
Still, $3500 is way out of wack! I could see a couple hundred. I've got a Gadzooka one similar. Can't remember who I got it from now but it was around $200.
Was that one of the Zapata large color arworks that have been hitting ebay lately?
Here's something you don't see often:Wasn't almost all series 1-16 art that has found its way into the secondary market part of the Guernsey auction with a few exceptions?
Original Art from the Topps Guernsey Auction in 1989
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacky-Packages-Original-Card-Art-Flopps-Beastball-Lost-Wacky-now-2008-flashback-/350585516572?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a086721c#ht_2105wt_1163
Here's something you don't see often:the most popular piece of lost art in the flashback set? is he on drugs? that's probably the lamest piece of wacky art ever produced, far worse than even Spittoon. nobody likes it.
Original Art from the Topps Guernsey Auction in 1989
eBay auction: #350585516572
the most popular piece of lost art in the flashback set? is he on drugs? that's probably the lamest piece of wacky art ever produced, far worse than even Spittoon. nobody likes it.
the most popular piece of lost art in the flashback set? is he on drugs? that's probably the lamest piece of wacky art ever produced, far worse than even Spittoon. nobody likes it.totally agree!
Slayday and Necko now have a new home. Thank you for the Cyber Monday deals! I always think its a good deal to buy art for around $500 each.
Great artwork and gag. Who is the artist and what series is this from. Thanks. Jeff
Looks like Topps has decided to change their art auctioning, with high BIN/Best Offer prices:
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Topps-Vault/Wacky-Packages-/_i.html?_fsub=19
And they flooded the market at the same time! I guess they weren't happy with the recent lower selling prices? OK, but with a limited pool of customers, why put up 40 pieces at once??
I've been taking some screen shots of ebay auctions for Wacky art, and may pick up what Plan9 was doing in this thread.
I saw that too they are not selling that stuff they are dreaming
Have any sold ? It's been awhile since that ANS ART SOLD FOR OVER $1k
Only some one-off pieces
They are totally fishing here some pieces would be lucky to get $200
Cash is not king in this economy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-Series-9-Original-Painting-FOLGERS-COFFEE-/200987311051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecbc6fbcb&nma=true&si=3l4y102QpO3glXUZWgLZe%252FKkKTE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557Getting a good look at a high quality scan of the art makes me realize how classic this wacky is. The rendering of the lid, the reflections on the jar, the coffee inside, the character -- it all makes me think of Norm. Simply great work George! And whoever got the painting is mighty lucky :o
I didn't find out about this sale until after it was sold! I'm curious as to who bought it!
Getting a good look at a high quality scan of the art makes me realize how classic this wacky is. The rendering of the lid, the reflections on the jar, the coffee inside, the character -- it all makes me think of Norm. Simply great work George! And whoever got the painting is mighty lucky :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Topps-Wacky-Packages-Stickers-Series-9-Original-Painting-FOLGERS-COFFEE-/200987311051?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecbc6fbcb&nma=true&si=3l4y102QpO3glXUZWgLZe%252FKkKTE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I didn't find out about this sale until after it was sold! I'm curious as to who bought it!
Hey George - One of your greatest Fans purchased it of course! It should go very well with the other Wright pieces... :great:
Hey Brian! I was hoping it was one of three people, and you were one of them! BTW, the piece looks a lot brighter than the Topps scan (their photo was really dark) Here's a scan that I sent for final approval.
(http://s2.postimg.org/tdsmbb07p/Fowlgers_Classic_Roost.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tdsmbb07p/)
Hey Brian! I was hoping it was one of three people, and you were one of them! BTW, the piece looks a lot brighter than the Topps scan (their photo was really dark) Here's a scan that I sent for final approval.
(http://s2.postimg.org/tdsmbb07p/Fowlgers_Classic_Roost.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tdsmbb07p/)
Wow! Superb work! Norm Saunder's quality!
Why does the Topps Vault ship artwork loosely in a box, but then place the COA in a toploader?