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Wacky Packages Discussion => General Wacky Packages Discussion => Topic started by: DrDeal on August 03, 2011, 02:23:30 PM
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Someone at ShopTopps.com mentioned when I called about ANS8 that the next limited On-Line only WP release would be the Halloween Postcards. I look forward to this release. Do we have a list of who is contributing this time around? I hope they stick with the limit of three sets per family. That worked pretty well for PC7.
DrDeal
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I was very happy to get my PC 7's at retail. I sure hope to get a chance at a few sets of these this fall.
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Will we get a heads up on the release date? The Halloween postcards are my favorite and I would love to get them!
On Halloween I dress up as a black cat.
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Someone at ShopTopps.com mentioned when I called about ANS8 that the next limited On-Line only WP release would be the Halloween Postcards. I look forward to this release. Do we have a list of who is contributing this time around? I hope they stick with the limit of three sets per family. That worked pretty well for PC7.
DrDeal
Maybe this will be the series that they begin some sort of a subscription service. I'd certainly be willing to pay a little more to ensure that I get at least one limited edition set.
As a public service, I'll try to post the few days I'll be without internet access since there is a great likelihood this set will go on sale during one of those handful of days. Not that I'm bitter or anything!
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Maybe this will be the series that they begin some sort of a subscription service. I'd certainly be willing to pay a little more to ensure that I get at least one limited edition set.
As a public service, I'll try to post the few days I'll be without internet access since there is a great likelihood this set will go on sale during one of those handful of days. Not that I'm bitter or anything!
I have at least 3 days in mid-October when I will be unable to order during work hours......
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Only 73 days left until Halloween! :o
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I am giving out Wackies again this year. Always a hit!
DrDeal
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I am giving out Wackies again this year. Always a hit!
DrDeal
Always do, last year i had to break open a second box and they almost all went. I dont dare give away ANS 8's this year though. 7's the odds were so bad i didnt care, but with 8's i'm thinking i just might have a shot at a gold or sketch. So, they will get either 7's again (i still have 4or5 boxes left) or 6's.
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Always do, last year i had to break open a second box and they almost all went. I dont dare give away ANS 8's this year though. 7's the odds were so bad i didnt care, but with 8's i'm thinking i just might have a shot at a gold or sketch. So, they will get either 7's again (i still have 4or5 boxes left) or 6's.
If there are flow packs this time, now would be the time for Topps to put them up for sale, as they are perfect for Halloween. I'd also love to see a shipping discount for large orders......
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If there are flow packs this time, now would be the time for Topps to put them up for sale, as they are perfect for Halloween. I'd also love to see a shipping discount for large orders......
Forgive me for asking a dumb question, but why do they call them "flow packs"?
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Forgive me for asking a dumb question, but why do they call them "flow packs"?
I think they are packs with no inserts possibilities.
Edit, just realized I didn't answer your question but leaving this here in case others didn't know what is different about flow packs.
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Forgive me for asking a dumb question, but why do they call them "flow packs"?
Don't know - I got the term from the ANS7 release.
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I am saving 17 Wacky Packages ANS8 packs to give to trick or treaters on Halloween (October 31, 2011).
Also: In Wacky Postcards 7 - don't Count Cluckula, Gloo Berry, and Flabben Belly count as Halloween related postcards?
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I think they are packs with no inserts possibilities.
Edit, just realized I didn't answer your question but leaving this here in case others didn't know what is different about flow packs.
So were flow packs invented to be a $1 item for the various dollar store chains?
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So were flow packs invented to be a $1 item for the various dollar store chains?
That's my understanding (though I could be wrong).
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That's my understanding (though I could be wrong).
Maybe they call them "Flow" packs because they flow right out of the stores at only $1.00 a pack?
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Maybe they call them "Flow" packs because they flow right out of the stores at only $1.00 a pack?
Or they "flow got" to include any chase cards.
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Or they "flow got" to include any chase cards.
Or maybe someone named Flow packed them?
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They want them to "Flow" out of the wharehouse. IE: A way to get rid of extra stock.
DrDeal
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Or maybe someone named Flow packed them?
Let's hope She doesn't have any "Progressive" plans in mind-LOL.
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Let's hope She doesn't have any "Progressive" plans in mind-LOL.
Oh man, don't even get me started on those damn Progressive commercials! I literally mute the TV when they come on.
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62 days until Halloween!
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(sorry, I know this belongs in "My favorites.." thread, but thought I'd post 'em here, a spooky trio)
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Oh man, don't even get me started on those damn Progressive commercials! I literally mute the TV when they come on.
Flo is so hot
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Oh man, don't even get me started on those damn Progressive commercials! I literally mute the TV when they come on.
I think she's kinda sexy - for an insurance salesman.
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I think she's kinda sexy - for an insurance salesman.
how about as a comedian??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRZiMUJ8bqE
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Flo is so hot
Please be kidding.
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how about as a comedian??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRZiMUJ8bqE
Kinda cute - I like a girl who's not afraid to show underarm sweat. Or is that flop sweat? Either way, I think it shows a sort of approachability that would have gotten my attention back in my single days.
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Please be kidding.
What? you don't find her hot with her annoying high pitched voice?
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What? you don't find her hot with her annoying high pitched voice?
no!
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Kinda cute - I like a girl who's not afraid to show underarm sweat. Or is that flop sweat? Either way, I think it shows a sort of approachability that would have gotten my attention back in my single days.
I kinda like that she has two hands on the microphone when she speaks into it!
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I like her Excorcist shirt.
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Listen, guys
I know It's not October yet, but if anyone has any spoilers, let me know!
Pauly
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Listen, guys
I know It's not October yet, but if anyone has any spoilers, let me know!
Pauly
Nothing to spoil yet. I think we are all hoping that Neil comes on here soon to spoil us with a fresh batch of Halloween PC's.
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Let it be ;D
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Let it be ;D
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Smoly Hokes!!! Where did you get that?
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Smoly Hokes!!! Where did you get that?
photoshop. where else??
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Nothing to spoil yet. I think we are all hoping that Neil comes on here soon to spoil us with a fresh batch of Halloween PC's.
very, very soon :great:
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very, very soon :great:
Ha, It's like the lyrics form the Scorpions song "tease me please me"
Tease Me
Please Me
No one needs to know, oh no
Okay soon enough but much anticipated of course!
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very, very soon :great:
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SWEET! I ain't gonna miss out THIS TIME! :character0029:
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I can't wait!!!! I really like the Halloween PC sets :D I am still collecting last years!!!
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I can't wait!!!! I really like the Halloween PC sets :D I am still collecting last years!!!
Me to. I just bought a Mellow for $10. I wasnt able to get Halloween PC's last year. I sure hope i'm able to get a few sets this time around.
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Very , Very soon. ... Time will tell.
DrDeal
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I'm wondering if it will be released around the same time as last year. This was located in last years thread:
UPDATE 10/19/10 WITH SOME NEW DETAILS:
TOPPS WACKY HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS!
Available at SHOPTOPPS.COM beginning Wednesday, October 20, 2010
Anticipated release time will be approx. 11:00 AM EST.
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I'm wondering if it will be released around the same time as last year. This was located in last years thread:
UPDATE 10/19/10 WITH SOME NEW DETAILS:
TOPPS WACKY HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS!
Available at SHOPTOPPS.COM beginning Wednesday, October 20, 2010
Anticipated release time will be approx. 11:00 AM EST.
FYI...they have been CANCELLED for this year!! see ya next year!! :great:
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FYI...they have been CANCELLED for this year!! see ya next year!! :great:
I'm sorry, i think you misheard, misread and then misspoke. The Cancellation has been cancelled
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I'm sorry, i think you misheard, misread and then misspoke. The Cancellation has been cancelled
There is supposedly going to be a HAlloween promo card at the next Philly show. I really wish I could make that show but ain't going to happen. If someone can snag a card for me, it would be much appreciated. Also seems that Fred Wheaton and George Wright will be there so this really is a must attend show!!
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There is supposedly going to be a HAlloween promo card at the next Philly show. I really wish I could make that show but ain't going to happen. If someone can snag a card for me, it would be much appreciated. Also seems that Fred Wheaton and George Wright will be there so this really is a must attend show!!
I plan on going, it will be my first time.
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I'm wondering if it will be released around the same time as last year. This was located in last years thread:
UPDATE 10/19/10 WITH SOME NEW DETAILS:
TOPPS WACKY HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS!
Available at SHOPTOPPS.COM beginning Wednesday, October 20, 2010
Anticipated release time will be approx. 11:00 AM EST.
That's what I'm afraid of - October 20th this year there is no way at all I'll be able to order during the day.
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There is supposedly going to be a HAlloween promo card at the next Philly show. I really wish I could make that show but ain't going to happen. If someone can snag a card for me, it would be much appreciated. Also seems that Fred Wheaton and George Wright will be there so this really is a must attend show!!
I just read the same thing on the Non-Sport Update blog. I'm bummed as I simply can't fly out from Wisconsin for a promo card and it is supposedly going to be strictly limited to one card per paying attendee at the show. I understand how they can do that to drive show attendance, but for those of us who simply cannot make it, I wish they had some other means of picking up the card. If not, I'll also throw my hat in the ring and see if anyone who can go is able to pick up an extra, I'll gladly pay or trade for it.
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I just read the same thing on the Non-Sport Update blog. I'm bummed as I simply can't fly out from Wisconsin for a promo card and it is supposedly going to be strictly limited to one card per paying attendee at the show. I understand how they can do that to drive show attendance, but for those of us who simply cannot make it, I wish they had some other means of picking up the card. If not, I'll also throw my hat in the ring and see if anyone who can go is able to pick up an extra, I'll gladly pay or trade for it.
Many of us are unable to attend the shows but someone usually comes through with the promos for us non-attendees. I will cover myself and say, 2 or 3 other forum members' admission fees, postage fees, etc. to get the goodies that we may miss out on.....plus a little sumthin' for the person that hooks us up....
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I am planning on attending and will see what I can do to get a couple extras for forum members. :D
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There is supposedly going to be a HAlloween promo card at the next Philly show.
Dave posted that there will be an OLDS3 promo at the Philly show just a few days ago.
Are there actually 2 promo cards?? halloween postcards and olds3?
I just found the NSU post on the Halloween postcard.
http://www.nsu-magazine.com/the-philly-show-goe-wacky/
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That is a cool lookin' postcard. MUST HAVE ONE! Please someone hook us all up. Thanks.
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That is a cool lookin' postcard. MUST HAVE ONE! Please someone hook us all up. Thanks.
I will try to get as many as i can, i'm a 1 or 2ist so i wont need 10 for my collection. i will send the others out at cost.
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I will try to get as many as i can, i'm a 1 or 2ist so i wont need 10 for my collection. i will send the others out at cost.
MUST HAVE THIS PROMO CARD ALSO!!! I MAY DIE IF I DON'T GET ONE!!! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!! WILL PAY COST OF ADMISSION PLUS TO GET ONE!!!
Thank You,
Michael Braum
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Dave posted that there will be an OLDS3 promo at the Philly show just a few days ago.
Are there actually 2 promo cards?? halloween postcards and olds3?
I just found the NSU post on the Halloween postcard.
http://www.nsu-magazine.com/the-philly-show-goe-wacky/
Great-looking promo!
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I'm wondering if it will be released around the same time as last year. This was located in last years thread:
UPDATE 10/19/10 WITH SOME NEW DETAILS:
TOPPS WACKY HALLOWEEN POSTCARDS!
Available at SHOPTOPPS.COM beginning Wednesday, October 20, 2010
Anticipated release time will be approx. 11:00 AM EST.
BumChex, That's awesome news. Can't wait!
Pauly
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BumChex, That's awesome news. Can't wait!
Pauly
hope you didn't mark your calendar. That's last year's news. Complete with the erroneous "EST"
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Dave posted that there will be an OLDS3 promo at the Philly show just a few days ago.
Are there actually 2 promo cards?? halloween postcards and olds3?
I just found the NSU post on the Halloween postcard.
http://www.nsu-magazine.com/the-philly-show-goe-wacky/
It mentions in that article that the "one per admission" will be strictly enforced, but in the past they have allowed us to buy 3 admission packets. I wonder if they will actually enforce it this time around. I know Roxanne wants it to be strict to attract more to the show because she mentioned that to me last year.
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I would be happy to pay whatever people feel is fair to receive an extra from someone (admission + postage + a beer, etc.). Just PM me. :great:
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Cool looking promo! I can't make the Philly show either. Is there is list started yet for people who want one of these Philly Show cards?
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http://www.nsu-magazine.com/the-philly-show-goe-wacky/
Neil, that came out fantastic!
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I love Baby Wrath! :great:
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Since we got a "Very Soon" 11 days ago I am thinking these will go on sale either tomorrow or Tues. Time will tell. Bring on the Halloween Postcards!
DrDeal
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Since we got a "Very Soon" 11 days ago I am thinking these will go on sale either tomorrow or Tues. Time will tell. Bring on the Halloween Postcards!
DrDeal
can't be Tuesday, that's the day for the Apple iPhone 5/4S Media Event ;D
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Since we got a "Very Soon" 11 days ago I am thinking these will go on sale either tomorrow or Tues. Time will tell. Bring on the Halloween Postcards!
DrDeal
Shouldn't it be closer to Halloween? Like at least two - three weeks from now?
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If anyone attending the show can get me the Babywrath card, I will gladly reimburse them the admission cost +++ extra wacky stuff. LMK if you can help cuz I can't make the show. :'(
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In the past I have figured out a way to pick up a bunch of extra promo cards for forum members cheaply, but I will not be able to be there. Hopefully someone can get one for me.
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can't be Tuesday, that's the day for the Apple iPhone 5/4S Media Event ;D
We definitely don't want to interfere with that.
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Shouldn't it be closer to Halloween? Like at least two - three weeks from now?
I think the last Halloween series was released 2 weeks prior, so I think we still have close to 2 more weeks to go.
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I think the last Halloween series was released 2 weeks prior, so I think we still have close to 2 more weeks to go.
Last year it was Oct. 20th
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Update please . It's Friday :)
DrDeal
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Update please . It's Friday :)
DrDeal
An update is just what the "doctor" ordered
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Update please . It's Friday :)
DrDeal
it's already sold out. didn't you get the private email?
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Update please . It's Friday :)
DrDeal
It's been cancelled...look back @ message [1331.msg3577899]A SAD Tricky Treat!!
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it's already sold out. didn't you get the private email?
:sign0103:
You are a cruel and sadistic wreck of a human being ;) ... made my heart miss 2 or 3 beat
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I am hoping for a Midnight Sale. That would be fun and would challenge the resellers a bit.
DrDeal
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I am hoping for a Midnight Sale. That would be fun and would challenge the resellers a bit.
DrDeal
I'm hoping for a midnight sale too - otherwise, the only day that week that I know I can be online is Friday the 21st.
I don't know that the timing challenges the resellers so much, since a lot of people seem to end up with dozens of sets.
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I'm hoping for a midnight sale too - otherwise, the only day that week that I know I can be online is Friday the 21st.
I don't know that the timing challenges the resellers so much, since a lot of people seem to end up with dozens of sets.
I can't say yet if a midnight sale will happen, but I'll update everyone next week with the anticipated release date!
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Looking forward to it!
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I can't say yet if a midnight sale will happen, but I'll update everyone next week with the anticipated release date!
Will we be able to buy as many as we want or is there going to be a communist limit??
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I think three per person worked pretty well last time with most that wanted them getting some. 5 per person sells out too quick IMO.
DrDeal
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Will we be able to buy as many as we want or is there going to be a communist limit??
With no buying limit a handful of collectors would swipe them all up and flip them on eBay for a huge profit. I think a 3-5 set limit is best.
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They create a set that requires you to buy at least 6 sets to complete it and then they tell you the buying limit is 3.
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Will we be able to buy as many as we want or is there going to be a communist limit??
I also prefer free trade over communist limits. As a collector I would like to be able to buy direct and assemble a set but due to limits I am forced to buy at ridiculous prices if I want a complete set. I think if there are going to be limits then there also needs to be a Master set that has a sketch from each artist with a complete postcard/Bio set made available for those of us that like to put together more complete sets.
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I also prefer free trade over communist limits. As a collector I would like to be able to buy direct and assemble a set but due to limits I am forced to buy at ridiculous prices if I want a complete set. I think if there are going to be limits then there also needs to be a Master set that has a sketch from each artist with a complete postcard/Bio set made available for those of us that like to put together more complete sets.
I don't think a company self-determining how to market to its' customers would be considered communist. Perhaps I'm wrong. To me, it sounds like capitalism.
And yes, they do insert the artist cards, and don't allow you to get them easily. But isn't this what most of you want? If they were easy, and automatically included with every order, I'd imagine that most folks would consider them novel, perhaps not swill, but nothing all that special. As it is, they're now collectible. We want fun collectibles that aren't too easy, and also aren't too hard, right? This seems to fit the bill.
They're just little extra items, and thanks to how they are sold, they've become a fun collectible - and give us something to do. They aren't even unique pieces of art, like the tough Philly show promos have been.
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They create a set that requires you to buy at least 6 sets to complete it and then they tell you the buying limit is 3.
And yet people manage to collect them all.
Managing a collectible series is not all "on-the-nose" and I think you know that. There's always a line that has to be walked up to, as far as making things tough, but stepping over it damages enthusiasm, and pushes customers away. Does anyone feel this is hurting the hobby?
Topps seems to have taken the real market into mind, understanding that folks will buy on the secondary market, and will try to trade, to get complete sets of the subsets. They appear to have decided that this will create a kind of buzz for the product, and that buzz is beneficial to perception of the postcard series in the hobby.
Maybe they're wrong, and that collectors would be happier and more enthusiastic if they could just direct order a set of six and be done with it. Maybe that would cause fewer problems and make people happier.
I do think the postcard series, as they've been going along, have stepped over the line at times, and perhaps pushed people away. I'm not of the mind that this is one of those cases, but I'm up for the discussion.
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I don't think a company self-determining how to market to its' customers would be considered communist. Perhaps I'm wrong. To me, it sounds like capitalism.
And yes, they do insert the artist cards, and don't allow you to get them easily. But isn't this what most of you want? If they were easy, and automatically included with every order, I'd imagine that most folks would consider them novel, perhaps not swill, but nothing all that special. As it is, they're now collectible. We want fun collectibles that aren't too easy, and also aren't too hard, right? This seems to fit the bill.
They're just little extra items, and thanks to how they are sold, they've become a fun collectible - and give us something to do. They aren't even unique pieces of art, like the tough Philly show promos have been.
Upstart hipster,where you been Amsterdam?
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They create a set that requires you to buy at least 6 sets to complete it and then they tell you the buying limit is 3.
Given it is only the chase sets that you can't complete with the core buying limit, it seems to be a good policy. The hoarders would only succeed if people continue their willingness to overspend on ebay. If that stopped, the hoarding would stop. Of course discilpine within collectors is an impossibility hence here we are....
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I also prefer free trade over communist limits. As a collector I would like to be able to buy direct and assemble a set but due to limits I am forced to buy at ridiculous prices if I want a complete set. I think if there are going to be limits then there also needs to be a Master set that has a sketch from each artist with a complete postcard/Bio set made available for those of us that like to put together more complete sets.
You actually aren't "forced" to pay ridiculous prices. At the end of the day, it seems all completists somehow find enough supply to meet their needs which means the completists are not patient enough to force the hoarders to drop their prices.
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And yet people manage to collect them all.
Managing a collectible series is not all "on-the-nose" and I think you know that. There's always a line that has to be walked up to, as far as making things tough, but stepping over it damages enthusiasm, and pushes customers away. Does anyone feel this is hurting the hobby?
Topps seems to have taken the real market into mind, understanding that folks will buy on the secondary market, and will try to trade, to get complete sets of the subsets. They appear to have decided that this will create a kind of buzz for the product, and that buzz is beneficial to perception of the postcard series in the hobby.
Maybe they're wrong, and that collectors would be happier and more enthusiastic if they could just direct order a set of six and be done with it. Maybe that would cause fewer problems and make people happier.
I do think the postcard series, as they've been going along, have stepped over the line at times, and perhaps pushed people away. I'm not of the mind that this is one of those cases, but I'm up for the discussion.
Topps can't be wrong because the complainers will take the dexact steps they have taken in the past, they will buy in the secondary market and ultimitly will be pleased with their collection.
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And yet people manage to collect them all.
Managing a collectible series is not all "on-the-nose" and I think you know that. There's always a line that has to be walked up to, as far as making things tough, but stepping over it damages enthusiasm, and pushes customers away. Does anyone feel this is hurting the hobby?
Topps seems to have taken the real market into mind, understanding that folks will buy on the secondary market, and will try to trade, to get complete sets of the subsets. They appear to have decided that this will create a kind of buzz for the product, and that buzz is beneficial to perception of the postcard series in the hobby.
Maybe they're wrong, and that collectors would be happier and more enthusiastic if they could just direct order a set of six and be done with it. Maybe that would cause fewer problems and make people happier.
I do think the postcard series, as they've been going along, have stepped over the line at times, and perhaps pushed people away. I'm not of the mind that this is one of those cases, but I'm up for the discussion.
Very valid points, In light of this maybe they should not do a master set and just allow you to buy the number of postcard sets that their are artist so that you would have lets say 6 artist and so you could purchase 6 sets. The odds of getting all 6 artist I would think would be slim so you would still have to get the ones you didn't get but you would have sets to trade. Just a thought.
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Very valid points, In light of this maybe they should not do a master set and just allow you to buy the number of postcard sets that their are artist so that you would have lets say 6 artist and so you could purchase 6 sets. The odds of getting all 6 artist I would think would be slim so you would still have to get the ones you didn't get but you would have sets to trade. Just a thought.
I'm all for this! I doubt it will happen though. I think the over hyper spending has tamed a bit. Just look at the prices for ANS8 sketches.
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Very valid points, In light of this maybe they should not do a master set and just allow you to buy the number of postcard sets that their are artist so that you would have lets say 6 artist and so you could purchase 6 sets. The odds of getting all 6 artist I would think would be slim so you would still have to get the ones you didn't get but you would have sets to trade. Just a thought.
This is a great point, Topps HAS forced people to buy artist cards in the secondary market as they have prevented the average collector from accumulating enough to merely trade them. Probably somewhat on purpose because high priced secondary market creates a buzz.....
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This is a great point, Topps HAS forced people to buy artist cards in the secondary market as they have prevented the average collector from accumulating enough to merely trade them. Probably somewhat on purpose because high priced secondary market creates a buzz.....
I think the original intention from Neil/Topps was that the collectors would be happy with just one sketch card. It was collectors like myself that started collecting all titles and artists that changed things. The only exception to this is the bio-cards with the past couple series, which were made more difficult.
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I think the original intention from Neil/Topps was that the collectors would be happy with just one sketch card. It was collectors like myself that started collecting all titles and artists that changed things. The only exception to this is the bio-cards with the past couple series, which were made more difficult.
Thanks a lot Rob! I kind of agree with allowing TRUE collectors to be able to purchase the same amount of sets as the number of artists that drew sketch cards. This seems like a very fair way to do things and allows the TRUE collectors to be able to trade amongst one another without needing to pay 4 or 5 times what the complete set cost for just one artist sketch card. I do the same as Rob and try to collect one sketch card for each artist.
If only there were a way to keep the hoarders away...
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Seems like we should have categories for all Wacky Pack "collectors": hoarders who resell for profit (I don't know if you can even call them true collectors), insanes who bid much higher than a card or sketch is worth, one-of each collectors, wait-till-the-prices-get-lower-before-I-buy collectors, completists. Of course many Wacky collectors probably fit into more than one of these, and it may be dependent on the type of Wacky, series, etc.
What collector categories did I leave out? This should probably be a separate thread! Or maybe it was a thread a long time ago and I'm just reinventing the wheel............
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Seems like we should have categories for all Wacky Pack "collectors": hoarders who resell for profit (I don't know if you can even call them true collectors)
I wouldn't call these guys hoarders. hoarders keep all their stuff. These guys are flippers, just out to make some $$$
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I think the original intention from Neil/Topps was that the collectors would be happy with just one sketch card. It was collectors like myself that started collecting all titles and artists that changed things. The only exception to this is the bio-cards with the past couple series, which were made more difficult.
This desire of collectors for more than one sketch card is no longer a new aspect of the hobby.
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This is a great point, Topps HAS forced people to buy artist cards in the secondary market as they have prevented the average collector from accumulating enough to merely trade them. Probably somewhat on purpose because high priced secondary market creates a buzz.....
Yeah, this is an example of walking up to the line, but being careful not to walk over it.
I know I'm stating the obvious and you guys already know this well, but a certain amount of difficulty is healthy for the hobby, as it creates buzz and offers up interesting challenges for collectors willing to take them on. But too much difficulty and people walk away. Similarly, if it's too easy... People lose interest.
It's quite an interesting set of givens, and it presents fascinating qumestions, on how sets are, or should be, designed.
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How about this idea? Make there be a limit of 6 per customer but reveal the secret release date and time several days ahead of time only to people on a mailing list. The mailing list could be created here by members sending their email address to Neil. The one caveat would be that Neil would add no known offenders (people that bought tons of sets since the limits were put in place) nor anyone that doesn't normally post here (so people with less than 3 posts would be excluded). Also anyone here that spills the beans also becomes blacklisted from future sets. Just a suggestion. This would kill the guys networking and buying 50 sets (I heard through the grapevine that one guy got 75 sets of the last pc set).
What might complicate this but would make it iron clad would be if Neil also gave each person a unique passcode and that code would have to be on the order for it to be finalized and mailed out.
Regular orders with a limit of 3 per person would start the next day if there are any sets left (no pass code needed).
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If only there were a way to keep the hoarders away...
There is, and I just gave it. It might complicate the lives of Neil and a couple of people at Topps but it would cripple the asshole that has come to rely on making $10,000 off of each postcard release.
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There is, and I just gave it. It might complicate the lives of Neil and a couple of people at Topps but it would cripple the asshole that has come to rely on making $10,000 off of each postcard release.
Which asshole? I think there are 2 or 3 people that strictly buy just to triple or quadruple their money. I think they should hung up by their "Grave Nuts" as punishment.
How about this idea? Make there be a limit of 6 per customer but reveal the secret release date and time several days ahead of time only to people on a mailing list. The mailing list could be created here by members sending their email address to Neil. The one caveat would be that Neil would add no known offenders (people that bought tons of sets since the limits were put in place) nor anyone that doesn't normally post here (so people with less than 3 posts would be excluded). Also anyone here that spills the beans also becomes blacklisted from future sets. Just a suggestion. This would kill the guys networking and buying 50 sets (I heard through the grapevine that one guy got 75 sets of the last pc set).
What might complicate this but would make it iron clad would be if Neil also gave each person a unique passcode and that code would have to be on the order for it to be finalized and mailed out.
Regular orders with a limit of 3 per person would start the next day if there are any sets left (no pass code needed).
I too like this idea as it would maybe put an end to the hoarders/flippers. I was going to suggest the same thing with giving each person that is an active member a unique passcode that will only work for them so they can but their 5 or 6 sets (hopefully) to be able to put a complete set of sketch cards from each artist in the series. Once the Forum members have bought their limit then open it up for the general public after a 1 day purchase opportunity. Then whatever is left is fair game for everyone, with a limit of 3 sets per person.
This gives the Forum members that are completists the opportunity to maybe score one sketch from each artist and trade for sketch cards they still need. And the members that are happy with 1, 2, or 3 sets can buy less than the limit if they would like to.
This sounds the most fair for all collectors involved, but would put an extra burden on Neil and Topps but would severely crush the profit margins of the "flippers".
Just a thought, or two, or three....
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Interesting discussion. And one that's not likely to dissipate anytime soon.
Here are two basic points to consider:
1) Everyone who paints will be represented in the Postcard set's Artist Bio Cards, whether it's 5 or 50.
2) Limiting the number of postcard sets is a decision Topps made based on customer feedback. It the only way to ensure that most people that want sets, get sets.
Given these two things, there's no way to make any guarantees for completing a set of artist cards. But at least, it encourages trading and hopefully, the people with extras will offer these at a reasonable price to forum members. We have to rely on goodwill here.
On a related topic, I've given lots of thought to the best way to offer postcard sets, one of them being an advance notice to mailing list members. The problem with this idea is that anyone who wants to join the mailing list is welcome, whether they're collectors, dealers or something in between. So, unfortunately, we'll probably always have those people who try to flip a bunch of sets. In my opinion, the only way to control it is to block those individuals caught buying more than the allotted number of sets (no easy feat, since most buyers have family and friends they can ask). Someday,we may find the perfect balance but for now, we have to rely on collectors to report anyone (that they can prove!) is abusing the system.
As always, I welcome your suggestions and I'll be reporting on the upcoming set soon -- hopefully, before Halloween! ;)
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Interesting discussion. And one that's not likely to dissipate anytime soon.
Here are two basic points to consider:
1) Everyone who paints will be represented in the Postcard set's Artist Bio Cards, whether it's 5 or 50.
2) Limiting the number of postcard sets is a decision Topps made based on customer feedback. It the only way to ensure that most people that want sets, get sets.
Given these two things, there's no way to make any guarantees for completing a set of artist cards. But at least, it encourages trading and hopefully, the people with extras will offer these at a reasonable price to forum members. We have to rely on goodwill here.
On a related topic, I've given lots of thought to the best way to offer postcard sets, one of them being an advance notice to mailing list members. The problem with this idea is that anyone who wants to join the mailing list is welcome, whether they're collectors, dealers or something in between. So, unfortunately, we'll probably always have those people who try to flip a bunch of sets. In my opinion, the only way to control it is to block those individuals caught buying more than the allotted number of sets (no easy feat, since most buyers have family and friends they can ask). Someday,we may find the perfect balance but for now, we have to rely on collectors to report anyone (that they can prove!) is abusing the system.
As always, I welcome your suggestions and I'll be reporting on the upcoming set soon -- hopefully, before Halloween! ;)
Just out of curiosity, how many people have been banned from buying ie how much success has there been in curtailing the abusers of this buying limit?
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Interesting discussion. And one that's not likely to dissipate anytime soon.
Here are two basic points to consider:
1) Everyone who paints will be represented in the Postcard set's Artist Bio Cards, whether it's 5 or 50.
2) Limiting the number of postcard sets is a decision Topps made based on customer feedback. It the only way to ensure that most people that want sets, get sets.
Given these two things, there's no way to make any guarantees for completing a set of artist cards. But at least, it encourages trading and hopefully, the people with extras will offer these at a reasonable price to forum members. We have to rely on goodwill here.
On a related topic, I've given lots of thought to the best way to offer postcard sets, one of them being an advance notice to mailing list members. The problem with this idea is that anyone who wants to join the mailing list is welcome, whether they're collectors, dealers or something in between. So, unfortunately, we'll probably always have those people who try to flip a bunch of sets. In my opinion, the only way to control it is to block those individuals caught buying more than the allotted number of sets (no easy feat, since most buyers have family and friends they can ask). Someday,we may find the perfect balance but for now, we have to rely on collectors to report anyone (that they can prove!) is abusing the system.
As always, I welcome your suggestions and I'll be reporting on the upcoming set soon -- hopefully, before Halloween! ;)
I'd previously given up on a sketch of each title, and I've now given up on a sketch per artist, and I don't think I'm alone there. My first suggestion is to NOT use identical, unsealed envelopes for the regular series. Coincidence or not, none of the 'sealed' sets I bought aftermarket yielded a Parisi sketch, let alone a Lynch sketch.
I also think the bio cards are exacerbating the situation with the set flippers - with individual bio cards going for $20 apiece as they were last time, a seller with dozens of limited sets makes up his costs on those alone, and everything else is pure profit, even if the flipper gets a less-valued sketch. I'd like to see the bio cards go back to a set in each postcard set. I realize this might be a problem cost-wise, but I'd much rather pay an extra few bucks per set to Topps than to just reward people who are buying 50 or more sets and scalping us.
I will try to NOT buy anything on ebay this time, but it's tough when you're wondering if it will come up again later at a more reasonable price. Hopefully it will be easier for me this time, as I know I'll never get the two sketches for the last set, and so my 'completing' goals are now much lower than they were before.
Still, I'm very excited about the new set, and I'm eagerly anticipating some great new Wackys!! I will continue to support the Topps releases, and I really hope I can order some sets!
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Just out of curiosity, how many people have been banned from buying ie how much success has there been in curtailing the abusers of this buying limit?
I can't say if or how many people have been banned. Since this is monitored by Topps, they're the only ones who can answer that question.
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I'd previously given up on a sketch of each title, and I've now given up on a sketch per artist, and I don't think I'm alone there. My first suggestion is to NOT use identical, unsealed envelopes for the regular series.
I appreciate your comments Pat! As far as your suggestion to avoid using identical envelopes, I've discussed this with Topps and they're going to use a different strategy in the future. It will probably mean using a different envelope for the limited and regular releases.
I also think the bio cards are exacerbating the situation with the set flippers - with individual bio cards going for $20 apiece as they were last time, a seller with dozens of limited sets makes up his costs on those alone, and everything else is pure profit, even if the flipper gets a less-valued sketch. I'd like to see the bio cards go back to a set in each postcard set. I realize this might be a problem cost-wise, but I'd much rather pay an extra few bucks per set to Topps than to just reward people who are buying 50 or more sets and scalping us.
I agree that the bio cards should be released as a set. I'm not sure exactly how that would work since the sets tend to be much larger these days, but I will definitely recommend the idea to Topps and see what solutions they can come up with in the future.
Again, thanks for your input and I hope you enjoy the new release. Details to follow soon...
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I can't say if or how many people have been banned. Since this is monitored by Topps, they're the only ones who can answer that question.
Ok - ask them to fill in the blanks BANNED: C_R_G__Y :P :P :P
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I also think the bio cards are exacerbating the situation with the set flippers - with individual bio cards going for $20 apiece as they were last time ...
I’m surprised bio cards command such a high price. I don’t understand why people like them. Although members have mentioned they enjoy displaying them in binders with regular sized stickers, and diehard completists would want them, I’d think this would be a small number of people. I guess there is a high enough demand to fetch such prices.
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On a related topic, I've given lots of thought to the best way to offer postcard sets, one of them being an advance notice to mailing list members. The problem with this idea is that anyone who wants to join the mailing list is welcome, whether they're collectors, dealers or something in between.
Solution: Send the advanced notice only to forum members, and only to those who've made a certain minimum number of posts. Say 10 or more maybe? That way the "advanced notice" actually benefits forum participants (isn't that the whole point?)
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Solution: Send the advanced notice only to forum members, and only to those who've made a certain minimum number of posts. Say 10 or more maybe? That way the "advanced notice" actually benefits forum participants (isn't that the whole point?)
That seems like a reasonable way to go. It doesn't guarantee @#$%* flippers won't get the info, but it should help. I'm sure Neil could do the same with the other forum and even send a few select emails to names he recognizes that aren't on either forum (just to give him more work to do).
I also liked the idea of a pass code. Anything to try to ensure the regular collectors get at least one limited postcard set would be much appreciated!
And many thanks to Neil for continuing to try to improve an obviously flawed system. The fact that we're all so borderline obsessed with obtaining PC sets shows the high esteem we feel for them, in large part thanks to Neil.
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Anything to try to ensure the regular collectors get at least one limited postcard set would be much appreciated!
That could be taken care of with a subscription list, which was previously suggested. Everyone on the list pre-pays for one set ahead of time. The "No Wacky Collector Left Behind" subscription list.
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That could be taken care of with a subscription list, which was previously suggested. Everyone on the list pre-pays for one set ahead of time. The "No Wacky Collector Left Behind" subscription list.
I believe I previously applauded that previous suggestion. And I'll do it again - great idea!
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That could be taken care of with a subscription list, which was previously suggested. Everyone on the list pre-pays for one set ahead of time. The "No Wacky Collector Left Behind" subscription list.
Sounds great. 1 pre-pay for the members, and an additional 3 sets as per the limit. So the list people would be able to get 4 sets. Putting the power back into the member/collectors hands. We here at the forum can trade to complete sets, and let the dealers choke on their high prices.
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Ok - ask them to fill in the blanks BANNED: C_R_G__Y :P :P :P
What are the blank letters? This is driving me crazy! I'm guessing the first half is CARD, but what is the last half? This way I can ban them when I look for stuff on eBay.
Thanks,
Michael
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What are the blank letters? This is driving me crazy! I'm guessing the first half is CARD, but what is the last half? This way I can ban them when I look for stuff on eBay.
Thanks,
Michael
Hint: Fill in the blank with a male name.He sells a wack load of wacky related products including clothing.
His prices seem fair on the standard new series stuff.
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Ok - ask them to fill in the blanks BANNED: C_R_G__Y :P :P :P
Is this a fact or your speculation?
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What are the blank letters? This is driving me crazy! I'm guessing the first half is CARD, but what is the last half? This way I can ban them when I look for stuff on eBay.
Thanks,
Michael
Okay, I have it now. Thanks. I have dealt with him all the time and he seems to be fair on prices and easy to deal with so this is a bit surprising that he would be banned. Curious!
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I’m surprised bio cards command such a high price. I don’t understand why people like them. Although members have mentioned they enjoy displaying them in binders with regular sized stickers, and diehard completists would want them, I’d think this would be a small number of people. I guess there is a high enough demand to fetch such prices.
I actually think the bio-cards are more popular than the actual postcards because more people collect trading card sized cards as opposed to postcard size, and getting the postcard art in trading card size is cool, plus the artist info on the backs. Those postcards are a pain to display in binders too! I have a system worked out but it requires fabrication to the sleeves and it's a pain.
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Is this a fact or your speculation?
As far as my knowledge goes Cardgarys has not been one of the buyers abusing the system. He bought a lot in the first few series but that was when there wasn't a limit.
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As far as my knowledge goes Cardgarys has not been one of the buyers abusing the system. He bought a lot in the first few series but that was when there wasn't a limit.
I am tickled to see CardGary's listing one of the series 1 sketches over and over on ebay with no bids at $99. This is the title he promised to sell me for $50 "when he gets around to digging it out of his storage". Then when he pulled it out of storage he decided it was worth more due to a momentary spike in a couple of the Gluttons running up the prices on them. Now the Gluttons are done and the price has crashed back down to what it was when we agreed to the $50 deal. All this while I had been regularly sending him customers who needed ANS stuff as I don't deal in ANS stuff. I have sent him ZERO customers since so I hope he finds the Bad Karma and my swaying customers to purchase elsewhere as worth it....
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Is this a fact or your speculation?
All: that was just speculatuion -just having fun - he had abused the first couple PC series with massive buys..he's been standup on his otherstuff -
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I actually think the bio-cards are more popular than the actual postcards because more people collect trading card sized cards as opposed to postcard size, and getting the postcard art in trading card size is cool, plus the artist info on the backs. Those postcards are a pain to display in binders too! I have a system worked out but it requires fabrication to the sleeves and it's a pain.
So maybe the postcard series should instead be a set of 6 trading cards, with 2 postcards thrown in? :toothy10:
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Had an idea last time around to help people not miss out on the Postcard announcement. Never got around to posting it and thought I better get on it: Postcard Announcement Buddy System (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=1643.msg36008#msg36008)
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I actually think the bio-cards are more popular than the actual postcards because more people collect trading card sized cards as opposed to postcard size, and getting the postcard art in trading card size is cool, plus the artist info on the backs. Those postcards are a pain to display in binders too! I have a system worked out but it requires fabrication to the sleeves and it's a pain.
I enjoy the bio information on the cards and do find them cool, in a novelty type of way, similar to the mini stickers in the eraser packs - cute, but not very useful. (But now that I think about it, I have a mini Spite sticker on my Alumawallet, so I guess I need to rethink that opinion ;D)
I’ve just heard many members here say how much they appreciate the larger images on the postcards so I chuckle that people would want tiny versions of them. I am under the assumption (possibly wrong) that the postcard series are aimed more at 40 and 50 year olds (than erasers, for example) so I assume us aging folks prefer big and bigger images, ie LTL
I hear you about struggling how to display them. I recently bought some oversized toploaders so I can put some of my favorite postcards up on my wall. Boy, oversized toploaders are NOT cheap!
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Solution: Send the advanced notice only to forum members, and only to those who've made a certain minimum number of posts. Say 10 or more maybe? That way the "advanced notice" actually benefits forum participants (isn't that the whole point?)
Sounds right to me! You can also view the profile and see when a person has joined the forum and couple that with posts too. Because I think there are a few who just join to get info. on their selling practices and are not really into Wacky's. We could even compile the list for them to make it real easy, then it could be maybe - ? Brad certified? Since it is his forum and he will know if anyone is trying to pull a fast one. :great:
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So, does anybody know for sure if they are really going to do a 2011 Halloween PC set?
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I enjoy the bio information on the cards and do find them cool, in a novelty type of way, similar to the mini stickers in the eraser packs - cute, but not very useful. (But now that I think about it, I have a mini Spite sticker on my Alumawallet, so I guess I need to rethink that opinion ;D)
I’ve just heard many members here say how much they appreciate the larger images on the postcards so I chuckle that people would want tiny versions of them. I am under the assumption (possibly wrong) that the postcard series are aimed more at 40 and 50 year olds (than erasers, for example) so I assume us aging folks prefer big and bigger images, ie LTL
I hear you about struggling how to display them. I recently bought some oversized toploaders so I can put some of my favorite postcards up on my wall. Boy, oversized toploaders are NOT cheap!
I am with Dr. Pop - I can see STILL see small print well and prefer the cards too...but the Big Postcards are also cool...I hear ya on the top loader issue..
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So, does anybody know for sure if they are really going to do a 2011 Halloween PC set?
Yes. FYI..Its been cancelled!!
(couldn't resist ;D)
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Solution: Send the advanced notice only to forum members, and only to those who've made a certain minimum number of posts. Say 10 or more maybe? That way the "advanced notice" actually benefits forum participants (isn't that the whole point?)
I'm all for that idea. In fact, I did something similar with the promo cards for the "Officially Unofficial National Wacky Packages Day". I required that members had joined before a certain month, and that seemed to work out great. I will certainly suggest the idea to Topps, but it's up to them to put the policy into effect.
In any event, the postcards will be coming soon! So, keep your eyes peeled...
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I'm all for that idea. In fact, I did something similar with the promo cards for the "Officially Unofficial National Wacky Packages Day". I required that members had joined before a certain month, and that seemed to work out great. I will certainly suggest the idea to Topps, but it's up to them to put the policy into effect.
In any event, the postcards will be coming soon! So, keep your eyes peeled...
Dude,
I have my FAKE vampire teeth in and I'm drooling.. >:D >:D
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Dude,
I have my FAKE vampire teeth in and I'm drooling.. >:D >:D
Me too. They are getting ready to pull the plug (again) on the internet abuse here at work. I just hope they do it AFTER to postcards come out! :'(
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What is the bigger annoyance: Those who circumvent the allowed limit or those who claim they are interested in the set only to turn it around for a fast buck?
There are solutions to be had.
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What is the bigger annoyance: Those who circumvent the allowed limit or those who claim they are interested in the set only to turn it around for a fast buck?
There are solutions to be had.
I think if it was just a few sets being sold off for profit here and there it wouldn't be that big a deal, but when you hear about multiple buyers who don't actually collect and are networking between 50 to 75 sets so they can sell and make a huge profit, that is a bigger issue, and unfortunately that's what we're dealing with here.
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Then these people should be blacklisted. How hard can it be to find out who is abusing the system? There has to be a record of who bought what. Elongate that to include what numbered set they received. Do this for a set or two and you can make the determination of who buys for the enjoyment and who buys for the dollar. Between Ebay, message boards, etc.., we can determine (not with 100% certainty) who is on the straight and narrow and who isn't.
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They are getting ready to pull the plug (again) on the internet abuse here at work. I just hope they do it AFTER to postcards come out! :'(
Brian, are you an abuser? Confess your sins man
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Then these people should be blacklisted. How hard can it be to find out who is abusing the system? There has to be a record of who bought what. Elongate that to include what numbered set they received. Do this for a set or two and you can make the determination of who buys for the enjoyment and who buys for the dollar. Between Ebay, message boards, etc.., we can determine (not with 100% certainty) who is on the straight and narrow and who isn't.
you seem to be ready for a Lynching!
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Had an idea last time around to help people not miss out on the Postcard announcement. Never got around to posting it and thought I better get on it: Postcard Announcement Buddy System (http://www.wackypackagesforum.com/index.php?topic=1643.msg36008#msg36008)
Good idea!
I have another idea, to add another layer of protection to make sure people don't miss out. How about a "Wacky Postcard early warning text alert system?" I can send out a mass text alert from my cell phone to anyone who is on my list. The purpose would be for those who may not have access to internet for whatever reason, can't check the forum every day, are not in a buddy system, or can't access their email from a cell phone, etc. As long as you can receive text messages, you should be fine. You would have to feel comfortable about giving me your cell phone number. If you're ok with that, I see no reason this wouldn't work. The only flaw I can think of is if I miss the announcement... But so far I haven't. Any other flaws I may be overlooking, let me know. Otherwise I can start a new thread with info and people could just start PM'ing me their cell numbers (don't do it yet though!).
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I'm all for that idea. In fact, I did something similar with the promo cards for the "Officially Unofficial National Wacky Packages Day". I required that members had joined before a certain month, and that seemed to work out great. I will certainly suggest the idea to Topps, but it's up to them to put the policy into effect.
In any event, the postcards will be coming soon! So, keep your eyes peeled...
Neil, could you start a new thread when your are ready to announce the release date?
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Then these people should be blacklisted. How hard can it be to find out who is abusing the system? There has to be a record of who bought what. Elongate that to include what numbered set they received. Do this for a set or two and you can make the determination of who buys for the enjoyment and who buys for the dollar. Between Ebay, message boards, etc.., we can determine (not with 100% certainty) who is on the straight and narrow and who isn't.
The names of those who are doing it are known. I think the main problem is that they network to buyers who don't have the same last name, so you would need a private investigator to figure it all out, and unfortunately unless there is a simple and non-time consuming way for Topps to do something about this issue it won't get done. It's a tough one to remedy for sure.
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The names of those who are doing it are known. I think the main problem is that they network to buyers who don't have the same last name, so you would need a private investigator to figure it all out, and unfortunately unless there is a simple and non-time consuming way for Topps to do something about this issue it won't get done. It's a tough one to remedy for sure.
I've exchanged messages with a few of these large buyers and they say they use their parents and other relatives to buy. I would assume that most have the same last name. I could get my mother and sister to buy but they have the same last name as well. Wouldn't this be a bit fishy?
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I've exchanged messages with a few of these large buyers and they say they use their parents and other relatives to buy. I would assume that most have the same last name. I could get my mother and sister to buy but they have the same last name as well. Wouldn't this be a bit fishy?
If the majority of their networking are buyers who have the same name, then those orders should certainly be rejected. I'm just not sure how concerned Topps is about the issue. Their primary goal is to sell the sets and they will do that either way. They may not want the hassle of risking canceling legit orders and having complaints. It may open a can of worms.
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If the majority of their networking are buyers who have the same name, then those orders should certainly be rejected. I'm just not sure how concerned Topps is about the issue. Their primary goal is to sell the sets and they will do that either way. They may not want the hassle of risking canceling legit orders and having complaints. It may open a can of worms.
Or it could be a last name that an innocent person just happens to share. The guy that got 75 sets was surely using a lot of people with no connection to his own name. There is no easy way for Topps to track and ban all these people though it could be done. An easier system is to just email known people the date and time of the release and have no unknowns on that list. As for the people that have abused the system, they need to be left off the list. I am sure there are a few people here that know the names of these people.
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Neil, could you start a new thread when your are ready to announce the release date?
Absolutely. In fact, I am going to create a new thread in a few minutes with a riddle that topps suggested I share...
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Absolutely. In fact, I am going to create a new thread in a few minutes with a riddle that topps suggested I share...
Holy Wacky Puzzle Batman !!! ;D
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If the majority of their networking are buyers who have the same name, then those orders should certainly be rejected. I'm just not sure how concerned Topps is about the issue. Their primary goal is to sell the sets and they will do that either way. They may not want the hassle of risking canceling legit orders and having complaints. It may open a can of worms.
I still say the best solution is a Wacky Subscription Plan. Pay something extra up-front to be guaranteed the ability to buy X of the limited release stuff. You don't actually have to buy any of it, but you are guaranteed the option of buying. Basically an option on the stuff.
I'd pay $40/year extra if it meant I was guaranteed the ability to buy 3 (or whatever the max is) of the two Postcard Series that came out for that year.
Known "legit" collectors (however that might be determined -- white-listed folks if you like) would be guaranteed the chance to buy the subscription.
Seems like a simple solution and it means more $$$ for Topps even if I don't buy 'em!
Also by having so many known legit collectors Topps would be able to satisfy the "true collector" group.
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The names of those who are doing it are known.
Apparently not known to those who should know.
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Apparently not known to those who should know.
I am sensing one culprit is in Chicago. That "tearawayface" guy who used to frequent this forum ended up with hoards of previous releases. I think he used the name Quisp on ebay. I would suggest boycotting their ebay auctions but it is too easy to just create new ebay ids.
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Apparently not known to those who should know.
That refers to those at Topps who have to deal with the abuse. People here are aware.
Besides death I can't think of anything positively certain but I would imagine just looking at people's addresses (email, paypal and geographical local), names, etc.., some red flags can be noticed when these sets are on sale.
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I've exchanged messages with a few of these large buyers and they say they use their parents and other relatives to buy. I would assume that most have the same last name. I could get my mother and sister to buy but they have the same last name as well. Wouldn't this be a bit fishy?
Well, if your (and I mean in general, not YOUR) last name is Jones or Johnson or Smith, etc. that creates a problem with that process.
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Well, if your (and I mean in general, not YOUR) last name is Jones or Johnson or Smith, etc. that creates a problem with that process.
None of the heavy buyers I know have a common last name.
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I was hoping the ordering page would have been up today as well. Out of sight, out of mind.
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you seem to be ready for a Lynching!
When it's needed. From time to time.